Re: dpkg-ftp or installing via FTP
Ricardo Hi guys, I grabbed and installed dpkg-ftp. But I see no mention Ricardo of any ftp usage when I run dpkg --help. Is there supposed to be Ricardo a separate binary called dpkg-ftp? Because I can't find any... It is meant to be used from within _dselect_. It gives you a new line in the * 0. [A]ccess Choose the access method to use. menu. Ricardo I'm trying to download the latest Debian distribution via FTP, but Ricardo I've had problems both with ncftp and with dftp. I was hoping Ricardo dpkg-ftp would be a better solution... What's wrong with ncftp? Maybe your networking is not setup correctly. Ricardo Another suggestion was to mirror debian. How much space is Ricardo required to mirror? Depends on how many files and directories you select in the mirror parameter file /etc/mirror/packages/site Ricardo Can a mirror be partial? Sure, see the example /etc/mirror/packages/ftp.debian.org, but please not that it was written with the old directory structure in mind. Ricardo Lastly, once I've gotten all that's required from FTP, is dselect Ricardo a good method to use for performing the install? Yes. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
Re: mirror
Hi! First, thanks for the pointers... But I'm still having problems. I've done an unpack and install on mirror-2.8-0.deb (that's the version that I have here for 0.93), but there's nothing under /etc/mirror (as a matter of fact, that directory didn't even exist). There's also no README.debian under /usr/doc/examples/mirror. I've run into problems unpacking newer version packages into 0.93 because my system is a.out and has old libraries. As a matter of fact, I've actually killed some of my apps (like emacs, for example), because the unpack changes things before checking dependencies, it looks like. So I've killed some stuff by attempting to upgrade packages... :( Where can I get sample copies of the mirror package ftp.debian.org and also the README for mirror? Thanks, Ricardo On Fri, 2 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo Here's the output: Ricardo TS1:/packages/debian# mirror -n -gsite:ftp.debian.org:/pub/linux/distributions/debian/stable/ The Debian package is set up to use the 2nd method of mirror invocation, ie mirror /etc/mirror/packages/ftp.debian.org Ricardo not loading mirror.defaults ^^^ This happens when you call it with the -gsite: method. See the manpage. Ricardo Scanning local directory . Ricardo Connecting to site:ftp.debian.org Ricardo Failed to connect Ricardo Pausing between retries Ricardo Cannot connect, skipping package Check out some of the doc I provide with the package, for example /usr/doc/examples/mirror/README.debian /etc/mirror/packages/ftp.debian.org This example package file was created in December for the 0.93R6 structure on the Debian site, you will have to change it a bit. Read the manpage, and you will understand it all, I hope. Best regards, Dirk -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
Re: dpkg-ftp or installing via FTP
Thanks! I've actually tried running dselect with ftp, but it didn't work. It looks like my version of perl may have some problems as can be seen in the error messages below. Since I'm still using Debian-0.93 and am trying to upgrade, I'm not sure how to upgrade perl because all the packages in the ftp site are newer packages dependent on newer libcs, etc. I choose ftp under dselect, this is what I get: Socket 1.3 required--this is only version (undef) at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/perl/Net/FTP.pm line 41 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/perl/Net/FTP.pm line 41. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup line 8. query/setup script returned error exit status 2. Any ideas/suggestions?? Ricardo On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Michael Karafotis wrote: I always take the easy way out and run dselect .. then select my method from there. It is quite nice .. set to ftp then select the server and packages you want. Enjoy, Michael
ELF-x11r6lib in a debian package?
I don't mean to sound sstupid, but do I install X11R6 like I do for other distributions..or is it in a .deb package? I have installed X11R6 before (3.1.2D/E). are there any bugs or peculiarities that I should be aware of? Are there other common freeware items that are not in packages? thank you very much. Mike Cotherman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mirror
Ricardo Hi! First, thanks for the pointers... But I'm still having Ricardo problems. I've done an unpack and install on mirror-2.8-0.deb Ricardo (that's the version that I have here for 0.93), but there's Ricardo nothing under /etc/mirror (as a matter of fact, that directory Ricardo didn't even exist). There's also no README.debian under Ricardo /usr/doc/examples/mirror. I was referring to the newest mirror package, mirror-2.8-6. As it's written entirely in perl, this is an Architecture: all package so that you can fetch it from Debian-1.1.3/binary-all/net/mirror-2.8-6.deb That should work with 0.93R6, but you should update to Debian-1.1 as many, many things have improved. See the upgrades directory for hints and notes. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
Re: LILO and W95
ok, i just loaded linux after w95 for the first time. i know very little about linux or unix for that matter and i'm having a real problem - 95 will not 'recognize' LILO, and boots right into 95. i didn't have this problem with 3.1. what i need is for someone to be gracious enough to take me by the hand and show me how to overcome this (to keep w95 from controling what's booted). please email me if you'd like: run fdisk and set bootable flag (A) to your dos partition only. Linux does not need this flag set.
Re: PPP not in kernel?
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Berntsen wrote: I've now recompiled the kernel, and I answered yes to PPP support in 'make config'. I've also installed the PPP package. Anyway, when I now try to use pppd, I get an error message saying that PPP is not supported in the kernel. What's wrong with my setup? As far as I know, PPP must still be compiled as a module, not built-in. Try M instead of Y for your response. It should work then. I don't believe that it's ever been true that PPP must be compiled as a module. PPP can be built into the kernel as long as you answered 'N' to Set version information on all symbols. If you answered 'Y' to this, only then must PPP be built as a module. Gerry
Re: mail-delivery-agents?
Dale Scheetz writes: Dale The current way I manage my e-mail involves using popclient to get Dale incoming e-mail from my ISP (mail.polaris.net) to dwarf's incoming Dale mail folder on my machine (dwarf.polaris.net), Same here. I advocate [EMAIL PROTECTED], which forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED], my wife's Debian box on campus, from where I popclient everything to the house ([EMAIL PROTECTED], dynamic IP). Dale outgoing mail is handled by Pine using SMTP. I use smail, locally and for outgoing mail. _Very_ easy to setup and change all the time because Ian Jackson wrote a fantastic /usr/sbin/smailconfig. The only problem is that you have to fake another email address for outgoing mail. There are several ways to do it, directly with emacs, pine (as you compiled the switch in, on my hint :-) and elm, or via smail indepently of the MUA as was recently discussed on debian-user. I also use procmail to sort my mail into 21 (!!!) different mail folders for different mailing lists. Dale I would like to try some other mail readers like elm and emacs but Dale none of these seem to be able to do SMTP and so require the presence Dale of a mail-delivery-agent. I can really recommend emacs with the vm mode. Really. Dale I know I have heard pro and con discussions about smail vs sendmail Dale but am still confused. Also I hear hints that qmail (?) will soon be Dale a Debian package. I am a complete idiot when it comes to mail Dale systems, so please be simple and clear in your answer ;-) Goes with smail. Use the smarthost feature of the smailconfig for outgoing mail. Dale What do I need to understand to install and use any of the available Dale packages? Nothing, basically :-) Dale If I am going to go to the trouble o1f learning to install a Dale mail-delivery-agent I will want to be able to filter mail to various Dale mail-folders based on the source of that mail. You can already do that with your existing setup. Just install procmail, and email me for examples. Dale If that is not available in the mail-delivery-agent, then point me Dale to a package that will work with the target mail-delivery-agent. Dale Dale Thanks in advance for any help, Pleasure. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
syslogd stopped working
I'm running Debian 1.1 on a machine here and as of a few days ago syslogd has stopped working. If I run the daemon manually it runs for about 30 seconds and then stops. I've tried removing the sysklogd package (using the --force option) and re-installing it again to no avail. -- Dermot BradleyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications Director Tel: 01232 560552 Genesis Project Ltd Fax: 01232 560553 Belfast Derry, Northern Ireland WWW: http://www.gpl.net/
PS/2 Mouse Support?
Does anyone know if PS/2 mouse support is compiled into the kernel supplied with Debian 1.1.2? If not, how can I get it? I don't recall seeing a module that had it. I have installed X, but not quite correctly yet. When I startx, I get a nice screen with one xterm and a mouse cursor, but the mouse cursor won't move. By the way, I'd like to report a positive experience installing via dpkg-ftp. I have installed most of my packages that way. Thanks in advance Mike
Re: X and mouse
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Adrenolin wrote: Section Pointer Protocal PS/2 Device /dev/mouse how can i set this correctly and/or check where/what the Device should be. i use startx and use the fvwm window manager. it comes up but no control over the mouse. Are you sure this is a PS/2 mouse? Does it have the cylindrical connector or the trapazoidal 9 pin DIN? I'm not sure why the kernel says it found a PS mouse, but it sounds like you want the serial protocal. Luck, Dwarf yes it is a logitech mouse thu in dos configured as PS/2. it is a 6 pin cylindrical connector. /-\ | Robert Adrenolin MacQuarrie | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |=| | ProvisioNet Distributions at New Jersey Branch | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \-/
Re: color ls
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert same here. i installed fileutils-3.12-4. the color-ls package still
Robert remains and wasn't removed
Dirk Sure, 3.12-4 is not 3.13-{1,2}. Try a newer version of fileutils.
Michael Sorry Dirk but
I never said that _you_ were using 3.12. Robert said he did, and I was only
pointing out that wasn't the right one to begin with.
hmm ok well i have checked 5 sites now and fileutils-3.12-4.deb IS the
newer version. if i am wrong about this please tell where there is a newer
version.
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Re: color ls
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote: 147) dpkg -s fileutils Package: fileutils Essential: yes Status: install ok installed Priority: required Section: base Maintainer: Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 3.13-2 ^^ Replaces: color-ls Pre-Depends: libc5 (= 5.2.18-9) Description: GNU file management utilities. The utilities: chgrp chmod chown cp dd df dir dircolors du install ln ls mkdir mkfifo mknod mv rm rmdir sync touch vdir. Shouldn't it both conflict and replace color-ls, so that color-ls gets completely overwritten when the new fileutils it replaced? Otherwise stuff like /usr/doc/copyright/color-ls (for instance) won't get removed... And dpkg -l will still show a color-ls package. Christian
Re: color ls
Robert hmm ok well i have checked 5 sites now and fileutils-3.12-4.deb IS Robert the newer version. if i am wrong about this please tell where there Robert is a newer version. You have to look in the rex aka development aka unstable tree, not in Debian-1.1-fixed aka Debian-1.1.3 aka buzz-fixed aka stable. You'll find fileutils-3.13-2 in the base section. Maybe wait a few days until fileutils-3.13-3 gets moved in which Erick uploaded this morning to the developers site. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
Re: LILO vs LOADLIN (was Re: LILO and W95)
Hi, The DOS+LOADLIN solution is in my opinion a very practical and safe one. Yes, that is true. And I would suggest everyone who starts with Linux to use this combination, if: - he has a Dos system - she doesnt need the additional boot password security - has a minute more time I read much safer than LILO somewhere and some time ago, but I cannot recall why nor if it has changed with the last versions of LILO for which horror histories abound. Anybody knows? Well, with lilo you can mess up your configuration if you do it wrong. On the other hand lilo is very flexible and supports the fanciest situations (like booting dos from drive d:). I'm just trying to upload a new lilo package. My auto config script is not yet finished, o the upload is basically a new upstream version, until I'm finisched with liloconfig, which should help a little bit. Greetings Bernd
Re: mail-delivery-agents?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can really recommend emacs with the vm mode. Really. My personal favorite is Gnus. It does a *wonderful* job with mail. Threading, filtering, deleting duplicates, etc... Getting it set up just the way I wanted was a little tricky, but anyone who's interested can mail me, and I'll give you an intro. -- Rob
Re: LILO and W95
In my case, I started out (several years back) using LILO to dual-boot DOS or Linux. But, I actually have found now that the Loadlin option not only is more convenient for Win-95, but actually makes more sense on a PC. The only problem is that Loadlin has some memory limitations. But, if you use the Menu-config.sys thing with DOS, then booting bare with the Loadlin option works great. More sense on a PC ? Duh ! Maybe for a Win95 user. Anyhow, the problems with I've installed Micro$oft Windoze 95 on my computer and can't boot Linux anymore is just due to the fact that M$ just assumes that anyone use their piece of crap and just baldly recreates the MBR. And LILO is not less safe than LOADLIN. It can causes problem if you configure it badly. And LOADLIN can have problem if the DOS/WIN drives are defragmented. (Not starting a col.advocacy thread) Phil.
Re: dpkg-ftp or installing via FTP
Ricardo Kleemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I grabbed and installed dpkg-ftp. But I see no mention of any ftp usage when I run dpkg --help. Is there supposed to be a separate binary called dpkg-ftp? Because I can't find any... I'm trying to download the latest Debian distribution via FTP, but I've had problems both with ncftp and with dftp. I was hoping dpkg-ftp would be a better solution... Another suggestion was to mirror debian. How much space is required to mirror? Can a mirror be partial? Lastly, once I've gotten all that's required from FTP, is dselect a good method to use for performing the install? dpkg-ftp provides a new 'method' to dselect. After installing dpkg-ftp run dselect and when you choose the Access function it will prompt for a method select ftp, it will then prompt for ftp site/dir etc. After that run Update, Select, Install etc. Andy.
Re: X and mouse
--text follows this line-- I too am having trouble with X and my mouse. No matter what I try for the mouse device, the X servr fails with the message Cannot open mouse (no such device). How to I tell what device my mouse is? During boot the BIOS just says Mouse recognized, and the kernel says nothing. I have a Microsoft PS/2 mouse. I used to run Slackware, and it worked fine. Now I'm using Debian-1.1. I found some links in /dev: msmouse-inportbm, psmouse-psaux, and I tried them, as well as making /dev/mouse point to them. Nothing helped. i'm haveing trouble configureing my mouse for use in the xf86config. i have a logitech 2 button mouse. in the boot process it saz foud PS/2 mouse but nothing more. i have in the xf86config file: -- What do you get when you execute ls -l /dev/mouse Does the link point to the I/O port which is connected to your mouse?
Re: More info on PPP problem --- Fixed
At 09:11 02.08.96 -0400, you wrote: On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Berntsen wrote: When I boot I get the following on my screen: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc PPP line discipline registered ... ... Starting base network deamons: rpc.portmap inetd When I start 'ppp-on', it starts pppd, but pppd doesn't do anything. The lights on my modem flashes, but it doesn't dial. It seems as if the ppp is loaded, and I have set up the files /etc/ppp/options /etc/ppp/chatscript It's just that it doesn't dial. What's wrong? I might help if we could see those two scripts :-) I figured it out, at last. It was an error in the scripts. I used instead of '
ftp access
hiya all i have users that telnet in to my machine. i have in the /etc/hosts.allow file the sites they telnet from. keeps a secure machine i would think as only they can telnet/ftp in. now i would like to open up and run an anonymous ftp server. at present only the sites i have in the hosts.allow file can get access. what do i have to do to allow any site access to login as 'anonymous''guest''ftp' only. tho still allowing my users thier regular ftp access? hmm not sure if even i understand what i'm asking :/ /-\ | Robert Adrenolin MacQuarrie | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |=| | ProvisioNet Distributions at New Jersey Branch | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \-/
Questions
Hi, I am installing debian linux from CDROM. My CDROM is panasonic CR-562 CDROM. I select the sbpcd module. Is that correct? When the system boots, the busy light in CDROM flashes. But when I use dselect, it ask me the block device name. How do I answer it? And when I use mount command, it doesn't show CDROM is mounted. What's happened? Hung-Ta Pai
Re: syslogd stopped working
On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote: I'm running Debian 1.1 on a machine here and as of a few days ago syslogd has stopped working. If I run the daemon manually it runs for about 30 seconds and then stops. I've tried removing the sysklogd package (using the --force option) and re-installing it again to no avail. Make sure you have a domainname set or apply patch found in bug #3526. Leland __ Y_ a_ m_ b_ o_ | The leanest, meanest, fightinest sweet tater on Earth! oo o oo o o | o o o | [EMAIL PROTECTED] o ooo o | -- -- -- -- -- -- | http://www.millcomm.com/~llucius (maybe one day)
Re: mail-delivery-agents?
And Dale - If you're thinking of going with emacs clients, there's an smtpmail.el package. Not to stunt your budding mail-admin-ship, but maybe it'd do the job. I don't use it but a decent number of people seem to. URL:http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/voelker/ntemacs/contrib/smtp is the most recent locale I've seen (that was off the Gnus mailing list, I have no relations with NT, thank you please! :-) -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reader should note unhealthy emacs-junkie gleam in poster's eye)
Re: How can I submit packages to be included in the distribution?
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote: - Harvester Caching Daemon Look at Squid instead - an old version can be found in rex/unstable. It's a few version behind. I hope to release a new version of squid sometime in the coming week. - procmail with Full Sendmail Integration Isn't this part of buzz/stable? yep, procmail's been part of debian for ages. - hylafax Fax Receive and Send with Sendmail Integration You could also use efax which is part of buzz. Someone is working on qfax (multi-user extensions to efax). hylafax would be great! - nocol Network monitoring package that sounds interesting. where can i find information on what exactly it does? - gated (for internal use - Gated have strict redistribution policies!) if you do create a package for this, could you distribute your debian.* files? maybe in a package which contained just the debian.rules etc, and either a pointer to where to get the source from, or a script to fetch the source...it would be great if it were possible to make the build/install process as simple as: dpkg -i gated-install.deb ## displays message about gated redistribution policy. cd /usr/src/gated ./debian.rules fetch_src ./debian.rules unpack_src ./debian.rules binary dpkg -i ../gated.deb dpkg -r gated-install.deb :-) Craig
Re: How can I submit packages to be included in the distribution?
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote: - Harvester Caching Daemon Look at Squid instead - an old version can be found in rex/unstable. It's a few version behind. Never heard of Squid. Speedwise I have seen no other software that could compete with Harvester. harvest went commercial. squid is the non-commercial successor to harvest...development of squid started where free development of harvest left off. - procmailwith Full Sendmail Integration Isn't this part of buzz/stable? Yes but its not set up as the local mailer. Sendmail uses deliver under Debian as far as I can see. add FEATURE(local_procmail,/usr/bin/procmail)dnl to your /etc/mail/sendmail.mc file. sendmail can use any local mail delivery agent you want. It would be nice to see a new release of the sendmail package which asked whether you wanted to use deliver or procmail. - hylafax Fax Receive and Send with Sendmail Integration You could also use efax which is part of buzz. Someone is working on qfax (multi-user extensions to efax). I need an integration with Sendmail and the ability to control the time period and where those faxes are sent. yes, that would be good. Craig
Re: How can I submit packages to be included in the distribution?
Hi Craig -- You wrote: - nocol Network monitoring package that sounds interesting. where can i find information on what exactly it does? Try this resource: ftp://ftp.navya.com/pub/vikas/ Cheers, Susan Kleinmann
Re: PS/2 mouse
Hi -- You asked: I am trying to run Debian-1.1 on my Compaq Deskpro 66M and the kernel is not regognizing my PS/2 mouse nor can I find psaux.o (and related files) to load the module. I tried boot disks for kernel version 2.0.0 and 2.0.6. Is this an error in the boot disk distribution and is there a way to fix this short of recompiling the kernel. (I hope you've already gotten an answer to this.) Yes, you need a kernel with special support for the mouse compiled in. Reading the 'config-?' files in buzz-fixed/disks-i386/special-kernels it appears that all of the special kernels there have support for the PS/2 mouse incorporated as a module. Several other types of bus mice are supported as well. HTH, Susan Kleinmann
Re: X and mouse
Hi -- You said: I too am having trouble with X and my mouse. No matter what I try for the mouse device, the X servr fails with the message Cannot open mouse (no such device). How to I tell what device my mouse is? During boot the BIOS just says Mouse recognized, and the kernel says nothing. I have a Microsoft PS/2 mouse. I used to run Slackware, and it worked fine. Now I'm using Debian-1.1. I found some links in /dev: msmouse-inportbm, psmouse-psaux, and I tried them, as well as making /dev/mouse point to them. Nothing helped. If you have a Microsoft PS/2 mouse (6-pin connector) then -- /dev/mouse should point to /dev/psmouse. -- you should have these lines in /etc/X11/XF86Config (in Section Pointer): ProtocolPS/2 Device /dev/psmouse -- you should be using one of the special kernels in buzz-fixed/disks-i386/special-kernels They all support bus mice as modules. Good luck, Susan Kleinmann
Re: dpkg-ftp or installing via FTP
[To those who will get this message twice, my apologies; nonetheless, I think this is worth bringing to the attention of the developers.] Hi Ricardo -- You said: I've actually tried running dselect with ftp, but it didn't work. It looks like my version of perl may have some problems as can be seen in the error messages below. If you are really having a chicken-and-egg problem (need dselect + dpkg-ftp to upgrade, but can't use dselect + dpkg-ftp without having upgraded), then I believe the project needs to make a note of that on the FTP sites. Meanwhile, my only suggestion for you is that you use the instructions in upgrade_manual.doc (this text file is found in the directory upgrades at any debian mirror). Good luck, Susan Kleinmann
Re: X and mouse
Hi Robert -- Given all the reports regarding bus mice recently, I was motivated to read the section on mice in the kernel-sources Documentation/devices.txt. (Should have done that a while ago.) That indicates that if you have a Logitech bus mouse, you should either use Device /dev/logibm in your /etc/X11/XF86Config, OR use Device /dev/mouse if you've already executed: ln -s /dev/logibm /dev/mouse Good luck. Susan Kleinmann
Re: ELF-x11r6lib in a debian package?
Hi Mike -- You asked: ... do I install X11R6 like I do for other distributions..or is it in a .deb package? Debian users can install X11R6 from a series of Debian packages. They are in section buzz/binary/x11 or buzz-fixed/binary/x11 at any Debian mirror. You need xlib*.deb, xbase*.deb, whatever font packages you want, whatever xserver*.deb is appropriate for your video card, and fvwm*.deb or fvwm2*.deb. You'll probably also want xmanpages*.deb. I have installed X11R6 before (3.1.2D/E). are there any bugs or peculiarities that I should be aware of? (Now that's really an unanswerable question :-). If you had a setup that was working in Slackware, and if you did not require ActiveX to get it working, then chances are extremely high that you can get the same setup working with the Debian packages. However, note that the Debian packages that exist right now do not refer to X11R6 3.1.2D or E. Those were/are beta versions. The earlier version was packaged for Debian. If you require D or E, then I would suggest that you install the Debian packages, then go get what you need for D or E, put them in your /usr/local, and cause the scripts in /etc/X11 to point to your files (particuarly your xserver) in /usr/local. Are there other common freeware items that are not in packages? Lots of freeware programs have already been packaged for Debian. But the field is hardly exhausted. Every month of so, Sven Rudolph sends out an email with a list of Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian Linux, which is a kind of to-do list for Debian package developers. Hope that helps. Susan Kleinmann
Re: Questions
Hi Hung-Ta -- You asked: I am installing debian linux from CDROM. My CDROM is panasonic CR-562 CDROM. I select the sbpcd module. Is that correct? The sbpcd driver does support the CR-562 CDROM. You may want to read more about it thought in the file Documentation/cdrom/sbpcd which comes with the kernel sources. When the system boots, the busy light in CDROM flashes. But when I use dselect, it ask me the block device name. How do I answer it? And when I use mount command, it doesn't show CDROM is mounted. What's happened? What command do you use to mount the drive? And what block devices appear when you execute the command 'cat /proc/devices'? The document I mentioned above suggests: mkdir /CD and mount -rt iso9660 /dev/sbpcd /CD or mount -rt iso9660 -o block=2048 /dev/sbpcd /CD and see the contents of your CD in the /CD directory. Good luck, Susan Kleinmann
Re: LILO and W95
More sense on a PC ? Duh ! Maybe for a Win95 user. Anyhow, the problems with I've installed Micro$oft Windoze 95 on my computer and can't boot Linux anymore is just due to the fact that M$ just assumes that anyone use their piece of crap and just baldly recreates the MBR. I know all about the MBR thing. Don;t try to give me that dumb-*^% stuff. Been there, done that... I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. Get off your high horse just a minute and think about what you are saying. I maintain 4 debian machines at present. 2 out of 4 are single-OS machines and boot up using lilo just as I have for several duel-boot setups prior. However, recently I have come to appreciate the loadlin option with multi-boot machine because of the ease of configuration on W95 machines and the [Menu] options under config.sys. As far as the previous comment on taking longer under loadlin. I don't think that is true. Once loadlin starts, it almost instantly boots linux. I can't really tell the difference. I guess my point is, if you have to use W95 (which I do on two machines for various reasons), and since W95 is going to write over your MBR every time you install it, then loadlin makes more sense. And LILO is not less safe than LOADLIN. It can causes problem if you configure it badly. And LOADLIN can have problem if the DOS/WIN drives are defragmented. This is true. But, lilo is more difficult to set up. Especially for first-time users migrating from dos/w95 or just experimenting, loadlin is definitely the way to go. (Not starting a col.advocacy thread) Phil. P.S. BTW, M$ Windoze-95 is not a piece of crap. I think we all agree in this group that it is wowfully behind the capabilities of Linux. But, one cannot deny the numbers. If it were that bad, why are there so many people using it? We can't isolate ourselves. The thing to do is figure out how to work with it. -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | |--| | out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the | | leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall...nothing but Net | \--/
Re: LILO and W95
James D. Freels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it were that bad, why are there so many people using it? I'm not commenting on anything but this line. IMO this may be a reason why you have to put up with something, but it is never a good argument for the merits of an item. -- Rob
Re: mail-delivery-agents?
Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Several people have asked me for my Gnus setup, so I'll post it here. Hope no one's offended, but it has a fairly high signal to noise ratio if you're interested in gnus for mail with debian. This is stuff I've sent to a couple of people before. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. Gnus supports a number of backends for mail. It can handle RMAIL, mh, etc, but I would recommend that you switch to using the nnml back end. It's much faster since it generates NOV overview databases (the same ones used by news servers) for all the mail folders. Other than that it stores mail just like mh, one message per file. Makes scripting over messages easy, but it can be hard on the inodes : I think that nnml is compatible with mh, but only if you don't use both at the same time. I think that gnus won't notice changes made by mh with this method until restart and vice versa. I'f you're already using mh, you don't have to do anything special to use nnml other than tell gnus to use it. It will then run over your mh heirarchy and automatically generate the databases. That's what I did. All my code assumes you are using nnml, but that should only be an issue in a couple of places where I set up the mail group servers. I'm going to assume for now that you don't want to use the bleeding edge release, and that the one that came with your emacs is OK. Is it emacs-19.31.1? If not, you may need the newer version of Gnus (or emacs). I will have info below about how to use the bleeding edge if you're interested. I'm using 5.2.38 to write this and it works great. Gnus treats mail groups (as opposed to news groups) specially with respect to deleting articles. The normal rule is: if it's a mail group, never delete anything unless specifically told to, and then only after the expiration period. You expire mail articles with E in the summary buffer. The default expire period is two weeks. If any article is two weeks old and has been expired, it is deleted. This is kind of nice if you later (within two weeks) decide you really did need some old message. Also, expired articles (until their deletion) still show up in threading histories, etc. You should also look in the info pages (gnus' are quite complete, Lars is insanely prolific) at the section on Topics. This allows you to organize your groups in collapsible outline form. With respect to file system layout, I have my groups set up like this: ~/Mail/Incoming/inbox(incoming mail that doesn't go anywhere else) ~/Mail/Incoming/debian-bugs (debian bug list) ~/Mail/Incoming/... (other assorted mail groups) and for outgoing stuff: ~/Mail/Outgoing/misc-mail ~/Mail/Outgoing/misc-news this used to be the default in gnus, but in the latest version, it saves no mail by default, so I explicitly enable this in my .emacs. For news (don't forget to check out the info pages on persistent articles and asynchronous fetching -- too cool): ~/News/... (all Gnus related stuff for *incoming* news goes here) Note that it might make more semantic sense for misc-news to go under ~/News, but it turns out that would be pretty awkward to manage with the way Gnus wants to handle things right now. I don't think you could do it without more hassle than it's worth, and the way I have it now, all personal writings are in one subdir. A couple of other things of note. If you just want to read mail, without going through the time consuming (at 28.8) process of contacting the news server and getting the current news group status, you just use M-x gnus-no-server instead of M-x gnus to launch gnus. One caveat, you might notice that all of the mail groups vanish along with the news groups when you do this (i.e. when you run gnus-no-server). That's just because groups have levels of activeness, and gnus-no-server only shows groups of level 2 or lower. Unfortunately all groups, including mail groups, are created at level 3 by default, so they vanish with gnus-no-server. To see them again, you just need to launch gnus the old fashioned way (M-x gnus) and then use the set level command to set the level of all your mail groups to 2. You can set the levels via S l with the cursor on the relevant group in the Group buffer. In order to actually get your mail, you might be able to use pop directly from gnus (I think that's supported now, but I'm not sure), but I just use popclient to grab my mail from all the relevant machines, and then let gnus suck up the mail from my normal system mailbox, which it does by default. Gnus automatically gets your new mail when you launch it, but if you want to incorporate all the new mail after launching gnus, you can use g from the group buffer which updates all the mail and news groups, or 2 g which only does groups level 2 or higher, i.e. the mail groups (there are other commands too, see M-g, for example, which works from a mail summary buffer). Incoming mail is split into sub-groups
Re: mail-delivery-agents?
Hi Lamar I hope you don't mind that I put this back onto the list as other people might wonder about this too. Lamar Hi, Dirk. I seem to be having some trouble getting posts to the Lamar debian-user list, so I'm mailing you directly. Lamar Lamar You posted something about using procmail _and_ pop to sort your Lamar mail. I was wondering how you invoke procmail? I, too, use Lamar popclient to get my mail, and I'd _love_ to be able to have procmail Lamar (or slocal or something) filter it for me. It is all in the procmail manpages --- but as those are quite detailed it hard to find as first sight. Note also that Debian procmail package has, as many other packages, a lot of documentation in /usr/doc/package and /usr/doc/example/package. 1. I start popclient as (indented by a TAB for readability) popclient -s -3 -P ~/.file-with-password host.that.has.mail to get my mail to my local machine. 2. One needs a file ~/.forward of the following form |IFS=' 'exec /usr/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #edd where the end must #user-id as a fallback strategy. This passes the mail to the procmail program. 3. A file ~/.procmailrc describes the sorting rules. There are lots of examples in the manpage, and the /usr/doc/examples/procmail directory. But as a concrete example, here are some pieces. If it looks all to strange, than it's probably time to review a Unix book with something on regular expressions. I just show some entries as it is mostly repetitive ~/.procmailrc -- # edd 26.10.95 installed from adapted version from /usr/doc/examples/procmail PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:. MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # use `usual' default and not this one: DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mail.in LOGABSTRACT=all LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log/procmail :0: # mail To or CC ctan-ann * (^To|^CC|^Resent-).*ctan-ann@(shsu.edu|RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE) in.ctan-announce :0: # mail To or CC debian-announce * (^To|^CC|^Resent-)[EMAIL PROTECTED](debian.org|pixar.com) in.debian-announce :0: # mail To or CC debian-bugs, debian-bugs-done * (^To|^CC|^Resent-).*debian-bugs(-done)[EMAIL PROTECTED](debian.org|pixar.com) in.debian-bugs :0: # Another one for new bugs system * (^To|^CC|^Resent-)[EMAIL PROTECTED] in.debian-bugs :0: # mail To or CC debian-changes * (^To|^CC|^Resent-)[EMAIL PROTECTED](debian.org|pixar.com) in.debian-changes :0: # mail To or CC debian-devel * (^To|^CC|^Resent-)[EMAIL PROTECTED](debian.org|pixar.com) in.debian-devel :0: # mirror logs * ^To: edd * ^Subject: mirror update$ in.mirror-update - :0: always starts a new rule section. Line with * describes rules, if there are several they are ANDed together. The last line shows the folder into which a message is put. Hope this helps, Dirk -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
des encryption..
Hello all! On our Sun network we have a program called 'des' for encrypting and decrypting files. Is this same des program available for Debian? I know I could use things like pgp, etc.. but, we already have des on the rest of the network so I would like the same on my Linux box. Cheers! Richard.. - Richard Dansereau Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://pobox.com/~rdanse Electrical and Computer Engineering - University of Manitoba - Canada -
Math-Emu 1.22 on NexGen-90?
Howdy folks! I've been experiencing a problem booting newer kernels on a system with a NexGen-90 processor. This CPU does not have a FPU. I've configured *all* of my attempts with: CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y I've configured most of my attempts with: CONFIG_M386=y # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set Using M486 or M586 get's me a Kernel Panic sooner in the boot process. A PANIC is what I'm getting when I say Y to Math_Emu and M386. The error message (sorry haven't ever written it down...) says Panic: no mathemu. or some-such. It's as though I've *not* got the emulator code in the kernel. I'm not much of a C programmer - what little I did was 5-6 years ago - but I have determined that kernel versions that include Math-emu 1.21 do boot on this system, while those with 1.22 do not. I did try putting 1.21 in the kernel's source-tree (2.0.10) but the build failed. I wasn't surprised. I've heard it said that there exists an easy fix for this problem. Can someone point me to it? I've looked on the Web, starting at www.linux.org and www.debian.org but have not been successful. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network DesignVoice: (419) 529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:(419) 529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1302 USA --
Re: Debian-1.1.3
The latex related packages were not in 1.1.2 You can find the changes in Changelog under /buzz-updates/.. If you read the messages will notice that stable, Debian-1.1.x and Debian-1.1-fixed _always_ are just links to the real files, no matter what the value of x. You can zgrep ls-lR.z at the root to check. regards, Lazaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) _ Reply Separator _ Subject: Debian-1.1.3 Author: debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink Date:02.08.96 20:23 Hi all, I noticed 1.1.3 up on the master debian ftp site. Where is the doc that states the changes from 1.1.2? As far as I see it, its just a link back to the Debian-1.1-fixed (just like 1.1.2 had) Jim === Jim Gerace Senior Systems Engineer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.kasinet.com
Re: dpkg-ftp or installing via FTP
- dpkg-ftp is a separate program under projects/experimental (chek withint the zgrep ls-lR.gz (only 100Kb ;-) - yes dselect will do itif you have all or just what you know you need. My experience is that you never now exactly all the dependencies so if you don't have all Anyway you can install partially with dselect, and if you don't have all what you need to resolve the dependencies, just switch to the next virtual console (alt-Fn) and ftp the missing package. Then switch back and resolve the problem within dselect. - Also, If dpkg-ftp is an option for you, maybe mounting NFS the whole thing is also viable (check the mirrors page). good luck! __ Reply Separator _ Subject: dpkg-ftp or installing via FTP Author: debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink Date:02.08.96 21:36 Hi guys, I grabbed and installed dpkg-ftp. But I see no mention of any ftp usage when I run dpkg --help. Is there supposed to be a separate binary called dpkg-ftp? Because I can't find any... I'm trying to download the latest Debian distribution via FTP, but I've had problems both with ncftp and with dftp. I was hoping dpkg-ftp would be a better solution... Another suggestion was to mirror debian. How much space is required to mirror? Can a mirror be partial? Lastly, once I've gotten all that's required from FTP, is dselect a good method to use for performing the install? Thanks, Ricardo
Unidentified subject!
Hi I would like to have a floating Debian system on my external SCSI HD. At home I have no (network ...yet :) and at work I have a connection through ethenet. I think have resolved all the details except a proper network connection. At install, I said I had network and gave the IP addres of: my host at work, the network, gateway and DNS. However something wrong happens with the email. I can send mail, but I cannot receive any. Sendmail creates huge logs for every bounce (it tries every 30' by default). I can ftp and telenet but other people cannot telnet or ftp into my machine although I modified the /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow Q1) Maybe I should not use the DNS and rout through my own /etc/hosts? Is there any advantage? Q2) Is there any script to do this things being taken by hand ? Q3) Can I use dinstall? That's the script one runs when installing the system for 1st time. I imagine its in the boot and saved a copy before rebooting... Can I use it to REconfigure the net, maybe I missed something during the installation? I notice that modconf is available in sbin/ but what about the other modules related to net configuration? Any net guru out there can help me to configure the system? Maybe not on-line in this list so as to save bandwidth. Thank you, Lazaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. I read a lot in the Network admin quide, but that was 1 year ago... :-)
