Re: LILO boot problem (fixed!)

1996-08-07 Thread Al Youngwerth
Thanks to all that helped me out on this one. Once I entered the BIOS disk 
parameters it worked great.

Al Youngwerth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Ftp method in dselect

1996-08-07 Thread Al Youngwerth
I also just purged dpkg-ftp accidentally but I can't find it anywhere! Is 
dpkg-ftp only in the base package included on the boot floppies?

Al Youngwerth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Adaptec corruption relieved! (so far)

1996-08-07 Thread danny
I posted earlier that my 2.0.0 kernel, using aic7xxx, corrupted my
superblock, whereas my previous 1.2.13 kernel (aha274x) didn't.

On the advice of Dan Eischen, I got linux kernel 2.0.7 plus a patch
for aic7xxx.  I compiled the patched kernel, installed it, and now I
can reboot with impunity.  The superblock stays clean.  Here's where I
got the source and patch:

ftp.teleport.com:/pub/users/deang/Linux/aic7xxx/Experiment/

I still need to try some device-stressing stuff (big tars to and from
floppies, for example) to see whether the fix holds up.  But so far,
so good.

Other correspondents suggested other fixes which I haven't tried out:

1.  Downgrade to kernel 1.3.97
2.  Get a firmware revision from Conner (I think this may apply
only to the 1060S, my disk is a 1080S).
3.  One correspondent had the same problem, but it only occurred
with reboots, not halts.  They were able to fix the superblock
with an emergency floppy using an alternate superblock (8193,
for example).

Many thanks to the following:
=

Dan Eischen
Holger Kemper
Fredrik Lundholm
Allan K. Smith
Bernd Melchers

(I apologize if I forgot anybody).



Danny Heap, UCSF,  California St., Room 102, SF CA, 94122
[EMAIL PROTECTED], voice:   (415) 476-8910, fax: (415) 476-1508




Re: shutdown: non-existing PID

1996-08-07 Thread Philippe Troin

On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 15:42:37 +0200 Michael Gaertner 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 shutdown -h now
 
 console-message:
 start-stop-daemon:warning: failed to kill 218: No such process
 
 Indeed there is no PID 218. BTW the pid-number changes with every
 shutdown.
 I think it has something to do with X Windows because I have another
 debian-system without X Windows installed - and I don't get this message.

I have the same minor problem, and it's '/etc/init.d/xdm stop' which causes the 
trouble. From what I've found, start-stop-daemon will kill the process tree of 
the daemon to stop. In case of xdm, it will try to kill xdm first, then X.
But, xdm kills X too when it's about to shutdown. The message appears when xdm 
kills X before start-stop-daemon. Sometimes, no message appears, and I assume 
that happens when start-stop-daemon kills X before xdm.

I have no fix yet. (It's only a minor annoyance)

Phil.




Re: unreliable service of I-Connect

1996-08-07 Thread Philippe Troin

I'm quite happy with i-Connect. My CD arrived in less than one week. They 
probably have problems right now, or are overwhelmed with orders :-)

Phil.




installng ( was Re: Problems with install from PHT CDROM

1996-08-07 Thread Marty Leisner

I'm an experienced linux user (I've been using slackware).

Is there any instructions  on having a ramdisk based filesystem (using loadlin's
initrd= option?)

I don't want to have to make floppies...

I should be able to run everything off a cdrom from dos, booting loadlin...


marty



Re: unreliable service of I-Connect

1996-08-07 Thread Bill Wohler
  In my situation, after two weeks I sent a query and got a prompt
  reply that the current 2.0.0 version of the kernel had some known
  bugs and they had been waiting for a better version and that they
  were shipping the CD today.  It arrived two days later.  This was
  a few weeks ago.

  That they held my order until they had a good kernel was reasonable
  to me.  My suggestion to I-Connect is that they add expected
  shipping dates to sites throughout the world to their Web page if
  they haven't already done so, but more importantly, notify the
  customer via email if they cannot ship immediately.

Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED]   ph: +1-415-854-1857  fax: +1-415-854-3195
Say it with MIME.  Maintainer of comp.mail.mh and news.software.nn FAQs.
If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.



Re: Problems with install from PHT CDROM

1996-08-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Tim Gray wrote:

 I borrowed a friends monthly Pacifix Hitech CDROM to install Debian.  I
 created all the disks and started the install.  I had to redo each of
 the base disks at least once because of errors.  Then when installing
 the kernel it gives me a crc error with gzip.  The system will boot from
 the custom boot disk but I can't mount the CD to continue installation,
 because it says the kernel does not support iso9660 which I thought was
 rather strange.  Any ideas?  Thanks.
 
If memory serves, the support is as a module (unless you built your own
kernel) so you will need to uncomment the auto line in /etc/modules so
that kerneld can load it. You will also need the controler driver loaded
before the no support message will go away (and your CD will hopefully
work)

Let me know if this isn't it,

Dwarf

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Re: Two Questions

1996-08-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Dan Bergman wrote:

 1. How do I set up a boot so I can boot Debian or Win95? 
  Now I have to use a boot disk to get debian to boot...

Check out loadlin in the tools path. You will need to set up config.sys
with a menu, so you can choose between Linux and Win95. Then set up
autoexec.bat to run loadlin, or win95 depending on your selection from the
menu. Check with me if you need more details.

 
 2. How do I change the diplay mode in XF86 from 8bit to 16bit
 color? I have a Diamond Stealth 64 Video VRAM w/ 2MB and use 
 16bit color in win95 so there shouldn't be any probs to get
 it in X too..
 
I hesitate to say anything here, as my knowledge may be dated or just
plain incorrect. It is my understanding that the Diamond Stealth cards are
not supported due to NDAs being required by Diamond. If this has changed,
someone please correct me ;-)

Luck,

Dwarf

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Re: gpm and X mouse conflicts

1996-08-07 Thread Mark Eichin

 without the -R option.  However, -R does seem to be needed for bus
 mice and in some cases it seems to be needed even for serial mice.  I

It *used* to be needed for busmice and in particular ps2 mice.
However, many of the busmouse drivers (and definitely the ps2 mouse
driver) were fixed to permit multiple opens during 1.3, so -R is not
needed *any more* for most if not all of the cases it was used for
previously.



Installed from floppies, now what?

1996-08-07 Thread Michael J. Cotherman
Maybe I am missing the obvious, but would someone please tell me 
where to find instructions on installing packages?

I see dpkg and dselect mentioned, but when I use these commands, 
I feel that I am lost

I do not have a distribution cd, nor do I want to purchase another 
set of disks that wil be outdated in a year

I have downloaded some packages, do I keep them in a directory
system similar to what is on the ftp server, or do I put them all
in one directory?

When I start dselect, it asks me where certain things are , and 
I actually have very little idea what they are referring to..

Does the file packages need to be on my system?
Where?
.gz or ascii?

I would like to use the dpkg-ftp, but I *think* that I need to 
install/configure the modem first...

I don't need each question awnsered individually if there are 
instructions (other than install.html) on this matter.

thank you, I am sure there are others with these questions..

mike cotherman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Two Questions

1996-08-07 Thread Shaya Potter


On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Tim O'Brien wrote:
 
 2. How do I change the diplay mode in XF86 from 8bit to 16bit
 color? I have a Diamond Stealth 64 Video VRAM w/ 2MB and use 
 16bit color in win95 so there shouldn't be any probs to get
 it in X too..
 
 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there is a problem with the
 Diamond card. If memory serves me well, Diamond does not publicize code
 to drive their cards without signing a non-disclosure agreement. Since 
 Linux includes all source code under GNU, this would break the NDA and 
 cause all sortsa trouble. 
 
 Good luck with it, and like I mentioned, I think what I just said is 
 accurate, but check me on this one, I may be thinking about a different
 video card. 
 
 Tim
 
That's the way it used to be, but diamond has become much more friendly 
to the linux community and they don't force the xfree group to sign the 
non disclosure aggrements anymore.

Shaya Potter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Adding nfs and ip modules to base

1996-08-07 Thread Jeppe Sigbrandt

Hi,

During installation I was prompted to select some modules to
install.

I wanted nfs but it replied

nfs_mknod undefined
nfs_sillyrename_create undefined
nfs_create undefined undefined
nfs_mkdir undefined undefined
nfs_lookup_cache undefined undefined
nfs_rename undefined undefined
nfs_lookup undefined undefined
nfs_nfs_rmdir undefined undefined
nfs_link undefined
nfs_refresh_inode undefined
nfs_symlink undefined
nfs_unlink undefined
Loading failed ! The module symbols 
(from linux-2.0.6) don't match your linux-2.0.6
Installation failed

For the internet protocol drivers it said:
Can't locate module console

And for my ne2000 card:
ne.c : Module autoprobing not allowed
append io=0xNNN values

(Howabout pointer to Ethernet Howto in Installation doc
where values to try above can be found)

I also tried (with identical results):
modprobe -t fs nfs.o


Fortunatly, can still use computer since didn't overwrite
previous system.  However, can't install Debian since cannot
mount the nfs drive where distribution will be kept.

Have read the Module-Howto and related Docs but can't find 
a solution to these problems.  I fed the first line of nfs 
error message to dejanews using 200,000 linux messages and it 
found nothing !  It looks simple, since the
messges don't seem cryptic, but what do I know ...

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment,
Jay



Floppy won't boot with internal cache enabled

1996-08-07 Thread Steve Gaarder
I am installing Debian 1.1.1 on a generic clone with an AMD 486 on an
Opti-based motherboard.  If I have the internal cache enabled in setup,
I get the error invalid compressed format after the uncompressing
Linux message.  If I disable the cache, it boots fine.  It boots ok
from the hard drive either way.  Anyone know what is going on?

thanks,

Steven Gaarder  Network and Systems Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  A C Technology, Ithaca, N.Y., USA



tar gives segfault

1996-08-07 Thread Guglielmo Rabbiolo
hi,

this is a follow-up to my previous message:

 Just after having installed Debian 1.1.3 from buzz-fixed/1996_07_14
 I was
 using tar to copy debian packages on the disk, more precisely:

 tar -xvMf /dev/fd0

 (they are multi-volume files).
 Doing this I get segmentation fault.

 I've tried with different volume sets (I've done one for each
 section, base, admin, devel  etc) and I get inconsistent results. Some
 stops at the very first disk and some after that.

 Moreover dropping the -M or -v or both option (that of course
 results
 in a incomplete backup) works for the volume sets that stops at the
 first disk.


I've done more experiments. I created a multi-volume archive by using
tar -cvMf.  Then extracting the files with

tar -xMf 

gives: IOT trap/Abort (core dumped)
 
While extracting with tar -xvMf gives only segmentation fault.

What bothers me is that I've used tar before unpaching multi-volume
archives and worked fine. However I'm realizing now that before I was
creating the archive with tar 1.11.2 and unpacking with tar 1.11.8.
Right now I can reproduce the error with archives created with 1.11.8
and works fine with archives created with version 1.11.2.
 
Also I've used tar from slackware 3.0 without any problem and now I
guess it was not version 1.11.8.

Does anybody know what this IOT trap/Abort message is all about?
Is someone willing to repeat this simple experiment (create/extract)
to confirm (or not) that this is a bug with this version of tar?
Where do I get older versions of tar?

Lawrence Chim [EMAIL PROTECTED], answering to my first
post wrote:

 you forgot to mount your floppy drive first

I don't quite understand this. I thought tar creates disks with raw
data on them, so how should I mount the floppy drive if there is no
filesystem built on it?
 
Thanks a lot for any help!!

---
Guglielmo Rabbiolo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mathematics Department
Purdue University, W Lafayette IN
---



lost lib

1996-08-07 Thread Robert Van Horn
When I try to use ftp I get a message ftp: can't find library 'librl.so.2'
I also am not able to find this library any of the places I looked.

Thanks in advance for any help finding this library.

Bob

Hmmm... I did a 'find / -name librl.so.2' on my system and I found
no such library... weird!  Would you like to double check the library name
again just in case.
One more thing, I did happen to have 'librle.so.1' I don't know if that
helps you or not.

Good luck
   Mike... 






Re: getting the mouse to work

1996-08-07 Thread Mark Phillips
When installing gpm, I set my mouse device to /dev/ttys0... Then, I =
pointed everything else that wanted a mouse device to /dev/mouse.  =

What is the difference between

/dev/ttys1, /dev/cua1 and /dev/mouse (a soft link)

and when should each be used?

Thanks,

Mark Phillips.  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




Re: How can I submit packages to be included in the distribution?

1996-08-07 Thread Rob Browning
Dermot Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Started work on it last night - just a bit confused with libgr/libgr-dev 
 versus libtiff3/libtiff3-dev/zlib1 needed for building it.

libgr is dead.  Use the individual libs.

--
Rob



dselect/dpkg problem: install/remove

1996-08-07 Thread John Houwen
I seem to have a similar problem with dselect/dpkg, but not with the 
dpkg-ftp option (haven't gotten that far yet) 

The dselect package has given me problems from the first. I made a 
few errors in my 1st attempt at the CDRom install, but managed to get 
most of the selected packages unpacked  installed.  Where dselect 
hung was on the kernel-source/kernel-headers packages. (where is 
local/binary ??) 

I have tried to remove these packages, but upon running either 
dselect or dpkg I get something along the lines of Package is in an 
unstable/condititon please re-install before attempting to remove

As I do not clearly understand the package system yet, I'm afraid to 
simply delete the packages and mess up dpkg's database.  I can't 
install the package, can't re-install the package, and dselect/dpgk 
won't remove it!

Coming from the SlackWare Distribution, I learned how to compile 
install programs using make, so there was no problem using the code 
to create a kernel  boot floppy, which I now use to bring up the 
system.  There are some problems with this too, but that will wait 
for another time.

Can anyone help?




catch 22?

1996-08-07 Thread wb2oyc
Oh Debian L'ers,

I've managed to get myself in a catch-22 kind of dilemma.  In an effort
to get a working 2.0.0 kernel with the proper options to support IP
masquerading, somehow or other both my kernel-image and kernel-source
packages have gotten to a state where I'm stuck fast!  I cannot
successfully build a kernel at this point, and I can't remove or reinstall 
either of the packages.  Attempting to reinstall results in errors 
during the prerem or postrem scripts for both the source and image
package.  Attempting to remove, errors with a recommendation to reinstall
(which fails of course!--hence the dilemma) before attempting to remove!
I am stuck in that proverbial hard place.

Is there some way to force dpkg to reinstall (or remove) in spite of the
error it encounters attempting to remove the older package first?  Or is
there some reasonable way to fake it out by creating the .deb files in
some magic place where the remove will work, for example, or even by 
copying them from the CD to an appropriate place (I do have the I-Connect
CD cut on 6_16)?

I haven't been successful attempting to use dpkg -i either, but that could
be me not getting the syntax correct perhaps.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.  Thanks.

Stuck fast

Paul




Re: Two Questions

1996-08-07 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Dan Bergman wrote:
 
  1. How do I set up a boot so I can boot Debian or Win95? 
   Now I have to use a boot disk to get debian to boot...
 
 Check out loadlin in the tools path. You will need to set up config.sys
 with a menu, so you can choose between Linux and Win95. Then set up
 autoexec.bat to run loadlin, or win95 depending on your selection from the
 menu. Check with me if you need more details.
 
  
  2. How do I change the diplay mode in XF86 from 8bit to 16bit
  color? I have a Diamond Stealth 64 Video VRAM w/ 2MB and use 
  16bit color in win95 so there shouldn't be any probs to get
  it in X too..
  
 I hesitate to say anything here, as my knowledge may be dated or just
 plain incorrect. It is my understanding that the Diamond Stealth cards are
 not supported due to NDAs being required by Diamond. If this has changed,
 someone please correct me ;-)

Diamond did cooperate, and most of the Stealth cards are supported.  I use
Stealth 64's on all my linux PC's and they work under the accelerated S3
server.

To choose 16 bit color, you can invoke: startx -- -bpp 16.  The '--' prevents
the startx front end from evaluating the -bpp option so it gets passed to
X.

Syrus.


--
Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.



Re: Discrepancies between mirror sites

1996-08-07 Thread Mark Phillips
  Mark Is there any way for mirror to discern timezone differences and
  Mark adjust times accordingly?  If the answer is no, then surely we should
  Mark ask all debian mirrors not to alter time stamps?

We could try to persuade _all_ mirrors to use
   use_timelocal=false

This suggestions seems very sensible.  Is there an official way to
persuade?

Mark Phillips.  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



XServer for ET4000/W32p hangs!!

1996-08-07 Thread Mark Phillips
Hi,

I have a friend who I am trying to help install debian 1.1.  He has an
ET4000/W32p graphics card.  I installed the appropriate server, went
through the xbase-configure program to create an XF86Config file, and
then ran X -probeonly 2 out.txt to try and get a clock line.  The
system just hung and I had to do a Ctr-Alt-Del to get out.

I couldn't work out what the problem was.  Any ideas?  I include the
out.txt file below.

Thanks,

Mark Phillips.  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




XFree86 Version 3.1.2 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6001)
Operating System: Linux
Configured drivers:
  ET4000W32: accelerated server for ET4000W32 graphics adaptors
(Patchlevel 0):
  et4000w32, et4000w32i, et4000w32p_rev_a, et4000w32i_rev_b,
  et4000w32i_rev_c, et4000w32p_rev_b, et4000w32p_rev_c,
  et4000w32p_rev_d
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/cua1, baudrate: 1200
(**) ET4000W32: Graphics device ID: Hashem's Video Card
 There are 11 lines left (71%). Press space for more, or 'i' to
return.
Message 4/476  From Hashem Najafi
  Page 2

(**) ET4000W32: Graphics device ID: Hashem's Video Card
(**) ET4000W32: Monitor ID: Hashem's Monitor
(--) ET4000W32: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz.
Deleted.
(--) ET4000W32: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz.
Deleted.
(--) ET4000W32: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz.
Deleted.
Warning: The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ does not
exist.
 Entry deleted from font path.
Warning: The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ does not
exist.
 Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75
dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(--) ET4000W32: ET4000: Initial hibit state: low



Re: Ftp method in dselect

1996-08-07 Thread Andy Guy
Al Youngwerth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I also just purged dpkg-ftp accidentally but I can't find it
 anywhere! Is dpkg-ftp only in the base package included on the boot
 floppies?

look in project/experimental.

Guy: could you move dpkg-ftp into unstable, this would avoid these
problems.

Andy.



Re: Installed from floppies, now what?

1996-08-07 Thread Graham Williams
I personally find dselect very confusing.  I install all packages
using just dpkg (dselect is a front-end to dpkg). It is actually very
easy.  The only thing that is more difficult is in manually dealing
with dependencies between packages.

The simplest thing to do is to identify any packages you want, e.g.,
minicom, ppp, etc. Download your selected packages from any Debian
archive (best to get them from the stable distribution).  For the two
I mention above, this would be:

stable/binary-i386/comm/minicom_1.75-1.deb
stable/binary-i386/net/ppp_2.2.0f-2.deb

Once you have them on your Linux box you should check what other
packages they depend on:

$ dpkg --info minicom_1.75-1.deb

This lists various things about the package.  Look for a line that
begins with Depends: 

You can do a dpkg --list to see if you have all of the required
packages.

If so, then simply install the new package:

$ dpkg --install minicom_1.75-1.deb

This actually unpacks the package and then configures the package.

If you don't like the package you can simply remove it with:

$ dpkg --purge minicom

It removes all files that were installed and undoes appropriate
configurations.

Hope this helps.

(My Linux box is home at present so I'm working from memory but I've
done this often enough to be pretty sure it's correct.  The --help
option of dpkg lists all available options.)

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printing and .profile problems

1996-08-07 Thread chris beamis

Hi, I hope I'm doing this right. I tried to post to the linux.debian.user
newsgroup without success.

Anyway, I just installed Debian 1.1.2 in late July (my first Debian
installation), with a few problems. I've fixed some of them thanks to this
forum, but there are two among the many left that I'm trying to fix right now.

1. dselect didn't configure lpr correctly so I did it myself using the
printing HOWTO which I've done successfully many times before with Slackware
releases. Now root can print but users get the message, usr can't create
/usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/.seq. This is with the permissions on that file set to
rw_rw_r as the HOWTO says. I tried changing the permissions to rw_rw_rw but
then a user gets the message usr can't create
/usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/tfA006Aa01777. As far as I know I have the permissions
set correctly in all the directories leading to this file, but this seems
like a permission problem. I'm stuck!

2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a .profile
in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, alias 'lo'=exit which
has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I also
tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Chris Beamis



Re: LILO and W95

1996-08-07 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, John Tran wrote:

   ok, i just loaded linux after w95 for the first time.  i know very 
   little about linux or unix for that matter and i'm having a real problem 
   - 95 will not 'recognize' LILO, and boots right into 95.  i didn't have 
   this problem with 3.1.  what i need is for someone to be gracious enough 
   to take me by the hand and show me how to overcome this (to keep w95 
   from controling what's booted). please email me if you'd like:
 
 run fdisk and set bootable flag (A) to your dos partition only.  Linux does
 not need this flag set.
 

Just catching up on my list mail and I wanted to throw in my 2 cents 
worth.  I have been using LILO with my Win95/Linux box with no problems 
whatsoever.  I have noticed that Win95 tends to reinstall the MBR but 
there is a simple fix to this that I have noticed by accident.

I usually install Linux first and I leave a space at the beginning of the 
disk for the Win95 partition to be added later.  My Linux boot partition 
is /dev/hda2 (I resrve /hda1 for the Win95 partition).  When I install 
LILO I make all the appropriate responses telling it that I will be 
booting more than one OS and then I find that hda2 is set as the active 
partition and is fully bootable.

Later, when I install Win95, the first partition is formatted and made to 
be the boot partition automatically (as a number of people have noted 
already).  But if I run fdisk from a DOS prompt and make the second 
partition bootable once again, voila`, LILO boots Linux the next time the 
machine is restarted.  At this point all I need to do is add the 
appropriate lines to my /etc/lilo.conf in order to get Win95 to boot when 
I choose it (Linux is the default of course...):

boot=/dev/hda2
root=/dev/hda2
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=Win95
table=/dev/hda

If you inspect the first line of this lilo.conf file, you will notice 
that the boot is set to a partition (/dev/hda2) rather than a disk 
(/dev/hda) and so LILO is installed using a boot sector on the second 
partition rather than on the Master Boot Record as would be done if only 
the disk were specified.  I believe that this is possible because the 
Linux fdisk permits up to 4 primary partitions (the DOS fdisk only allows 
1) and each can be made bootable.  The result is that if I wish to go 
back to booting Win95 only (heaven forbid), I need only activate the 
first partition and my LILO is still sitting there intact for me to use 
later.  This will allow me to reinstall Win95 to my heart's content and 
not mess up my Linux loadability and dual boot.  This method will not, to 
my knowledge, work unless the boot partitions of both Win95 and Linux are 
on teh same disk and reside under the 1024 cylinder limit imposed by DOS 
and LILO.

Anyway, just thought I'd lay my experiences out for all to use if they 
like...

Carlo

***
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enlarge the ext2 partition without reinstall

1996-08-07 Thread Lawrence Chim
Is it possible to enlarge my current partition without reformatting it?
My current partition is 1GB and I would like to extend it to  1.5GB.



Re: what files does dselect/dpkg use to discern choices?

1996-08-07 Thread Kevin M Bealer
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, David C Winters wrote:

 
   Now, to explain the question, since I can't understand the 
 Subject: line and I wrote it myself...
 
   I've got approximately 50 machines I need to build.  My best 
 option for the initial system build, unless I've missed something, would 
 be to run deselect on one machine, then take a deselect-generated file 
 containing my selections and exporting that file to all the other 
 machines, so I can just start up dselect and choose Install without 
 having to go through Select on each.
   How can I accomplish this?  Which file(s) do I need to export in 
 order to make this happen?  And, is there a better way to achieve the 
 same results?
 
   Now, a meta-issue.  I've been extremely pleased with the Debian 
 distribution, as well as the support I've received from this list.  
 Thanks, all!  
 
 
 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Office: 3503 WeH, x86720

I don't think you can do much in terms of recording input to
dselect.  I would look at something like a tape-backup
technology, or using a null modem to transfer the data.  (I
assume if you have 50 machines you have more advanced networking
than a null modem).  

If you recompile the kernel, there is an option for Root
filesystem on NFS.  If you could get an NFS on one drive to
export, you could boot all the machines with NFS and then copy
stuff en mass from machine to machine.

I'm not sure how to actually send the data, but you could use
something like afio to packages the filesystem up and send it
through the NFS.

A neat idea: look into dbackup... (but it isn't done yet, AFAIK)

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Re: Two Questions

1996-08-07 Thread Kevin M Bealer
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Dan Bergman wrote:

 1. How do I set up a boot so I can boot Debian or Win95? 
  Now I have to use a boot disk to get debian to boot...
 
 2. How do I change the diplay mode in XF86 from 8bit to 16bit
 color? I have a Diamond Stealth 64 Video VRAM w/ 2MB and use 
 16bit color in win95 so there shouldn't be any probs to get
 it in X too..

generally, you type:

startx -- -bpp 16

You need XF86Config set up correctly (is it possibly already
correct?)

You can also edit the Xservers file (type locate Xservers it
should be in /etc/X11 somewhere) to use 16 bit.  Mine has:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -gamma 1.5 -bpp 16

as the active ingredient.


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Re: what files does dselect/dpkg use to discern choices?

1996-08-07 Thread Kevin M Bealer
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, David C Winters wrote:

 
   Now, to explain the question, since I can't understand the 
 Subject: line and I wrote it myself...
 
   I've got approximately 50 machines I need to build.  My best 
 option for the initial system build, unless I've missed something, would 
 be to run deselect on one machine, then take a deselect-generated file 
 containing my selections and exporting that file to all the other 
 machines, so I can just start up dselect and choose Install without 
 having to go through Select on each.
   How can I accomplish this?  Which file(s) do I need to export in 
 order to make this happen?  And, is there a better way to achieve the 
 same results?
 
   Now, a meta-issue.  I've been extremely pleased with the Debian 
 distribution, as well as the support I've received from this list.  
 Thanks, all!  
 
 
 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Office: 3503 WeH, x86720

Let me suggest (in addition to my last suggestion) the use of
afio (or cpio) with the utility called netcat.

Send the compressed volume through a pipe to netcat, and do the
opposite on the other end.

nc just acts as a pipe between two systems.

Note that afio may do bad things if it overwrites running
programs, so look out for that. -- you may want to create a 15
MB or so partition on each machine to run Debian until you get
it set up minimally (base system + some networking).

When you are done, you can use the bootstrapping partition as an
emergency repair system, or just add it on as more swap space.


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Sendmail configuration question

1996-08-07 Thread Erik van der Meulen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

I have been playing about with my new Debian distribution for a 
week or so now. Great stuff. I have managed to configure most of 
my file, print, mail and fax server apart from a small send mail 
issue (and of course that mgetty console message: 
'/usr/lib/mgetty+sendfax/new-fax: No such file or directory' 
which I assume to be a minor bug for the time bieng).

My problem is that I am unable to get any mail queued for UUCP 
delivery. Internal SMPT mail works fine, incoming UUCP no probs. 
I am no way near of a mail expert and I have spend some time 
fiddling with the configuration script and adding some UUCP 
lines. This resulted in the following .mc file. I would be happy 
if anyone would shoot at it...

#
# This file is used to configure sendmail for use with 
Debian systems.
#

divert(0)
VERSIONID(`@(#)sendmail.mc  8.7 (Linux) 3/5/96')
OSTYPE(debian)dnl
FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl
FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl
FEATURE(nodns)dnl
define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `1d')dnl
MAILER(local)dnl
MAILER(smtp)dnl
Cwavondel.xs4all.nl
MASQUERADE_AS(avondel.xs4all.nl)dnl

## Custom configurations below (will be preserved)

MAILER(uucp)dnl
define(`SMART_HOST', uucp:avondel)

- --
My setup is really simple:

my ISP is called:  xs4all.nl
my UUCP node:  avondel

I really hope someone can point my in the right direction. Thanks 
all for the attention,


Erik van der Meulen
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Re: Two Questions

1996-08-07 Thread Michael Meskes
Dan Bergman writes:
 
 1. How do I set up a boot so I can boot Debian or Win95? 
  Now I have to use a boot disk to get debian to boot...

Try this lilo.config:

# Start LILO global section
boot = /dev/hda
compact# faster, but won't work on all systems.
delay = 50
vga=extended
ramdisk = 0 # paranoia setting
# End LILO global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /vmlinuz
  root = /dev/hda2
  label = linux
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# WIN95 bootable partition config begins
other = /dev/hda1
  label = win95
  loader = /boot/chain.b
# WIN95 bootable partition config ends

I haven't tried it yet (since my WIN95 is on hdb not hda it has to be
different). It should work, though. In any case you get the idea. Once you
started lilo from Linux you should be able to boot both via the LILO prompt.

Michael

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dosemu, libX11.so.6 problem

1996-08-07 Thread Ioannis Tambouras


Trying  dosemu-0.60.3-1.deb  to run on linux 2.0.10 
Compilation on .tgz sources also error and do not want to compile
with X support, have not yet tried without it.

Will appresiate any help. 


After dpkg -i the binary package:
 problem ===
$ dpkg -i x11/xlib-3.1.2-7.deb
  ...
$ cp /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.0 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
$ dos -A
dos: can't load library '/usr/lib/libX11.so.6'
Exec format error
dos: can't find library 'libX11.so.6'





Ioannis Tambouras
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PGP 512/D042DD45, West Palm Beach, Florida




Re: lost lib

1996-08-07 Thread Ioannis Tambouras
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Robert Van Horn wrote:
telos 16 % zgrep -i librl.so /data/deb/Contents.gz
lib/librl.so.2.0.3.dist  aout-librl

It is in:

filename: Debian-1.1/binary-i386/devel/aout-librl-2.0.3-4.deb
msdos-filename: Debian-1.1/msdos-i386/devel/aoutlbrl.deb
size: 112098
md5sum: 46972d5000aa7785bad36eed1d4505e7



 When I try to use ftp I get a message ftp: can't find library 'librl.so.2'
 I also am not able to find this library any of the places I looked.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help finding this library.
 
 Bob
 
 
 
 

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Re: shutdown: non-existing PID

1996-08-07 Thread Michael Gaertner
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Philippe Troin wrote:

 
 On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 15:42:37 +0200 Michael Gaertner 
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  shutdown -h now
  
  console-message:
  start-stop-daemon:warning: failed to kill 218: No such process
  
  Indeed there is no PID 218. BTW the pid-number changes with every
  shutdown.

That's not true. examin with ps -ef

  I think it has something to do with X Windows because I have another
  debian-system without X Windows installed - and I don't get this message.
 
 I have the same minor problem, and it's '/etc/init.d/xdm stop' which causes 
 the trouble. From what I've found, start-stop-daemon will kill the process 
 tree of the daemon to stop. In case of xdm, it will try to kill xdm first, 
 then X.
 But, xdm kills X too when it's about to shutdown. The message appears when 
 xdm kills X before start-stop-daemon. Sometimes, no message appears, and I 
 assume that happens when start-stop-daemon kills X before xdm.

Ok, what happens is: 

PID (ex.)   COMMAND
151 /usr/bin/X11/xdm
159 \_ /usr/X11R6/bin/X
160 \_ -:0 ;(local display-server)  

shutdown invokes k01xdm:
star-stop-daemon --stop --verbose --exec /usr/bin/X11/xdm

invoked by hand prints same message:
[...] failed to kill 160: No such process
stopped /usr/bin/X11/xdm (pid 160)

which gets printed by start-stop-daemon script (r1.2.13):
[...]
for $pid (@found) {
if ($testmode) {
   [...];
} else {
if (kill($signal,$pid)) {
   push(@killed,$pid); is this wrong ?
} else {
print start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill $pid:$!\n;#
}
}

Maybe Jan can help?

 
 I have no fix yet. (It's only a minor annoyance)
you can always use ssd --quite ;)

 
 Phil.
 
 
 

Michael Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel/Fax +49-761-32684



Re[2]: shutdown: non-existing PID

1996-08-07 Thread Lazaro . Salem
 Phil, Michael,
 Maybe pstree (and friends mentioned in the man page) can help you to trace 
 the problem 
 Lazaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
__ Reply Separator _
Subject: Re: shutdown: non-existing PID 
Author:  debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink
Date:07.08.96 02:39


On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 15:42:37 +0200 Michael Gaertner 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 shutdown -h now
 
 console-message:
 start-stop-daemon:warning: failed to kill 218: No such process
 
 Indeed there is no PID 218. BTW the pid-number changes with every
 shutdown.
 I think it has something to do with X Windows because I have another
 debian-system without X Windows installed - and I don't get this message.

I have the same minor problem, and it's '/etc/init.d/xdm stop' which causes the 
t
rouble. From what I've found, start-stop-daemon will kill the process tree of 
the
 daemon to stop. In case of xdm, it will try to kill xdm first, then X.
But, xdm kills X too when it's about to shutdown. The message appears when xdm 
ki
lls X before start-stop-daemon. Sometimes, no message appears, and I assume that
happens when start-stop-daemon kills X before xdm.

I have no fix yet. (It's only a minor annoyance)

Phil.






Re: Adding nfs and ip modules to base

1996-08-07 Thread Lazaro . Salem
 Hi Jay,
 There have been some postings (since the 1.1.2 release) to this list  
 reporting  the same problem. Check last week's ones as I sent a kind of 
 reports-log. I heard of no answers so I am not sure whther we are 
 exceptions# to the rule.
 
 My solution was to reinstall 1.1 (stable tree) download  install the 
 packages in the updates. Among them the kernel-source-2.0.6-0.i386.deb 
 (please check the name) but not the kernel-image. 
 I the recompiled the 2.0.6 with the debian script to create a kernel-image 
 package. Look at kernel source tree for a debian. .
 As a result I got the kernel-image-2.0.6-choose.your.tag.here.deb which I 
 installed with dpkg (instructions are in the debian script)
 Now I have a custom (leaner) kernel and no problems so ever with the 
 undefined messages. 
 
 Lazaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
__ Reply Separator _
Subject: Adding nfs and ip modules to base
Author:  debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink
Date:07.08.96 05:25


Hi,

During installation I was prompted to select some modules to
install.

I wanted nfs but it replied

nfs_mknod undefined
nfs_sillyrename_create undefined
nfs_create undefined undefined
nfs_mkdir undefined undefined
nfs_lookup_cache undefined undefined
nfs_rename undefined undefined
nfs_lookup undefined undefined
nfs_nfs_rmdir undefined undefined
nfs_link undefined
nfs_refresh_inode undefined
nfs_symlink undefined
nfs_unlink undefined
Loading failed ! The module symbols 
(from linux-2.0.6) don't match your linux-2.0.6
Installation failed

For the internet protocol drivers it said:
Can't locate module console

And for my ne2000 card:
ne.c : Module autoprobing not allowed
append io=0xNNN values

(Howabout pointer to Ethernet Howto in Installation doc
where values to try above can be found)

I also tried (with identical results):
modprobe -t fs nfs.o


Fortunatly, can still use computer since didn't overwrite
previous system.  However, can't install Debian since cannot
mount the nfs drive where distribution will be kept.

Have read the Module-Howto and related Docs but can't find 
a solution to these problems.  I fed the first line of nfs 
error message to dejanews using 200,000 linux messages and it 
found nothing !  It looks simple, since the
messges don't seem cryptic, but what do I know ...

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment,
Jay





Re: lost lib

1996-08-07 Thread Lazaro . Salem
 To exactly know which library a given command (say foo) needs you can try 
   $ ldd foo
 If you don't find the library referenced ( e.g. library_name) in your 
 system with:
   $ find / library_name) 
 you can locate that library by 
   $ zgrep library_name Contents.gz 
 so you can install the package.
 
 lazaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Reply Separator _
Subject: lost lib
Author:  debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink
Date:07.08.96 08:13


When I try to use ftp I get a message ftp: can't find library 'librl.so.2'
I also am not able to find this library any of the places I looked.

Thanks in advance for any help finding this library.

Bob

Hmmm... I did a 'find / -name librl.so.2' on my system and I found
no such library... weird!  Would you like to double check the library name
again just in case.
One more thing, I did happen to have 'librle.so.1' I don't know if that
helps you or not.

Good luck
   Mike... 








Re: dselect/dpkg problem: install/remove

1996-08-07 Thread Lazaro . Salem
 Hi,
 
  where is local/binary ??
 I _think_ is a local filesystem or directory where you put your 
 any extra package which is not present under the stable|contrib|non-free 
 tree. For example you can put ther 
 a) Your own packages like a custom kernel created out of the kernel-source 
   and made (autoamtically) kernel-image-custom.deb
 b) the ftp'ed partial tree if you don't have the CD
 
 Anybody knows of other use for it?
 
 I have tried to remove these packages, but upon running either 
 dselect or dpkg I get something along the lines of Package is in an 
 unstable/condititon please re-install before attempting to remove
  ..I can't install the pac kage, can't re-install the package, 
  and dselect/dpgk won't remove it!
  ^
 
 It happened to me too with dselect when I run out of space in /usr 
 (The size of the packages being selected and the free space on the 
 filesystem would have helped... Ian, Bruce are you listening?). 
 
 In my case, only the front-end dselect could not install or remove 
 those unstable packages. This however worked for me:
  
 1) Quit dselect
 2) Install the unstable packages with dpkg -i giving the full path
something like:
# dpkg -i /cdrom/stable/binary-i386/devel/kernel-source-2.0.6-0.deb
That will install the package and update the files dselect needs to
configure/remove/purge or whatever you want to do next with the
package within dselect.
 
 As I do not clearly understand the package system yet, I'm afraid to 
 simply delete the packages and mess up dpkg's database.  
 
 Don't worry, you're not alone :-). Just read the documentation you find 
 _many_ times untill you get the feeling. dpkg --help | less and all the 
 manual pages mentioned in the fake dpkg manpage (man -k dpkg can help 
 too). But be patient... the Debian packaging system is a several years 
 project so _it is_ a complicated and _excelent_ system!
 look also at the /var/lib/dpkg/info to learn by example what comes with 
 every package. In my case, the package_name.list file for the unstable 
 packages in that directory was missing ...and that confused dselect.
 
 Lazaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
__ Reply Separator _
Subject: dselect/dpkg problem: install/remove
Author:  debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink
Date:07.08.96 10:26


I seem to have a similar problem with dselect/dpkg, but not with the 
dpkg-ftp option (haven't gotten that far yet) 

The dselect package has given me problems from the first. I made a 
few errors in my 1st attempt at the CDRom install, but managed to get 
most of the selected packages unpacked  installed.  Where dselect 
hung was on the kernel-source/kernel-headers packages. (where is 
local/binary ??) 

I have tried to remove these packages, but upon running either 
dselect or dpkg I get something along the lines of Package is in an 
unstable/condititon please re-install before attempting to remove

As I do not clearly understand the package system yet, I'm afraid to 
simply delete the packages and mess up dpkg's database.  I can't 
install the package, can't re-install the package, and dselect/dpgk 
won't remove it!

Coming from the SlackWare Distribution, I learned how to compile 
install programs using make, so there was no problem using the code 
to create a kernel  boot floppy, which I now use to bring up the 
system.  There are some problems with this too, but that will wait 
for another time.

Can anyone help?