Re: Netiquette of requesting package updates
As a new Debian user who migrated from Slackware, one of the few things I find a comparative disadvantage is being dropped back to earlier releases of certain programs. I spend close to 50% of my Linux time using two programs, an editor and a WWW browser, and in both cases the current Debian version is several months out of date. Which editor and browser are you talking about? Are you looking at the stable or the development directory tree? I maintain the netscape package and it is right up to date. You have to look at the development tree to see it, though. (Well, it _will_ be up-to-date as soon as it gets moved out of Incoming.) The last thing I want to do is to pester a volunteer who is freely donating time to hurry up with a new package. On the other hand, it would seem that keeping up with new releases should be part of the maintainer's responsibility. What is the etiquette on requesting or inquiring about package updates, if any? Personally, I'm more than happy to receive a short, polite note telling me that a later version of Netscape has been released. And in the meantime, I assume it would be best to remove the two packages in question and put binaries of the newer versions in /usr/local/bin, rather than to just replace the installed binaries in /usr/bin? I believe so, yes. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
Re: /etc/passwd migration between systems
As Jim Worthington said: Also I get the following message when trying to run crack ver 4.1: Crack v4.1f: The Password Cracker, (c) Alec D.E. Muffett, 1992 Version of crypt() being used internally is not compatible with standard. Has anybody successfully been able to run crack on Debian Linux 1.1? Jim Randy Gobbel and I are looking at Crack right now on Linux (kernel 2.0.12). If you make FCRYPT equal to null in Sources/Makefile, and possibly remove references to FCRYPT, you can successfully compile and run Crack. To me it seems like the Makefile is configure to either use fcrypt or UFC, but not a standard crypt. This is because most standard crypts are SLOW. But the Linux crypt is very fast. Change the Makefile like so: FCRYPT= However. Using the default -O optimization makes Crack stop when it begins applying the rules that append numeric digits to the end of a word (near the end of dict.rules). Randy's mahcine (586) freezes, while mine (486) merely dumps core. If you replace -O with -g, in an attempt to run gdb on it, Crack runs fine all the way through the end of the rules. But, when Crack is about to write the final information to file, it messes up again. On Randy's machine, inodes get messed up. On mine, the file is written to disk, but under a garbage name 250+ characters of random punctuation and control characters. I did not count the number of characters... 256 would be an interesting number. Randy I aren't sure what's causing the problem. Any help at all would be appreciated. There are 3 places I see that could contian a bug: 1) Crack 2) libc 3) the kernel This is my first time running Crack, so I don't know if it ran well before on 1.2.x kernels, or on other Unices. libc might be at fault, because of the weird disk events that happen when Crack finishes. Or the kernel might be at fault... my Crack (!) dumps core, but Randy's machine totally freezes. If anyone would like to compile Crack and help in our effort to find the bug, you can get the sources at http://www.deter.com , in one of the sub-pages. Thanks! --gilbert __ Gilbert Ramirez Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Texas http://merece.uthscsa.edu/gram Health Science Center at San AntonioUniversity Health System
A few problems
I've been having a few problems lately: 1. After I recompiled the kernel, NAS loads fine at boot, but auplay et all tell me that they can't connect to audio server. Can anybody help?? 2. I can't get diald to work. Pppd works fine, but diald disconnects from my ISP as soon as I get connected. I have a feeling that this has to do with the diald options file, and possibly the pppd options file. Any tips? 3. Lacking knowledge of the XPM format, I need to know how to make transparent pixmap backgrounds (for icons). I can't get xpaint or pixmap to do this. Anyone know how?? Thanx for your time...:-)
using procmail with emacs RMAIL
Hi, Can someone point me to info for the quickest, easiest way to use procmail with Emacs RMAIL to separate, say, the debian list into a separate folder? I normally have no problem putting hours into something like this, but lately I'm incredibly busy and there seems to have been loads of traffic on debian recently, so that I'd really like to get it working as quickly as possible. Thanks in advance, Steve
Re: Netiquette of requesting package updates
Brian C. White writes: I spend close to 50% of my Linux time using two programs, an editor and a WWW browser, and in both cases the current Debian version is several months out of date. Which editor and browser are you talking about? Are you looking at the stable or the development directory tree? I maintain the netscape package and it is right up to date. I was being purposely vague because I didn't want to single anyone out, but no, they're both popular text-only programs. One of them is behind by a minor version, the other by a major + 2 minors. No more clues. :)
UPDATE: deb-view.el 1.2: emacs tool for browsing deb files!
I've updated deb-view.el to handle viewing html files with w3-mode. w3 can be found via anonymous ftp to ftp.cs.indiana.edu:/pub/elisp/w3. For use within deb-view, I didn't need to install the extras or icons that w3 recommends. I had considered something special for INFO files, but info files are pretty well readable as-is so it wasn't worth the effort. Here is a shortened version of my original announcement: I've written a tool for emacs that allows one to browse deb files. It's nice to peek at a package file and read the doc, man pages, html files, install scripts, file list, etc, without installing it first. You can even copy files out of a deb archive if you want to! Why emacs? Because most of the smarts to do this stuff was already in emacs. I just gathered it together in a simple but clever way for Debian users! ;-) Emacs users will recognize tar-mode, the emacs feature that that I'm exploiting. You can get the latest deb-view.el from here: http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~macdonal/deb-view.el Sorry, I don't have anonymous ftp for you. The file is about 13KB. If you can't get at it, I can email it to you. -- ...RickM...
Re: /etc/passwd migration between systems
Gilbert Ramirez Jr. wrote: As Jim Worthington said: Has anybody successfully been able to run crack on Debian Linux 1.1? Randy Gobbel and I are looking at Crack right now on Linux (kernel 2.0.12). If you make FCRYPT equal to null in Sources/Makefile, and possibly remove references to FCRYPT, you can successfully compile and run Crack. To me it seems like the Makefile is configure to either use fcrypt or UFC, but not a standard crypt. This is because most standard crypts are SLOW. But the Linux crypt is very fast. Change the Makefile like so: FCRYPT= Gilbert, I've tried UFC CRYPT in addition to FCRYPT with equally un-successful results. The use of standard crypt makes sense as you suggest, however, I believe that the crypt which is distributed with Debian 1.1 is broken, or at least incompatable with the standard Unix crypt algorithm. Whether this is a bug or a security enhancement is unknown. I do know that when I tried to copy my /etc/passwd file from a Sun system to Debian 1.1, the passwords would not decrypt correctly on login. Since the passwd file that I'm trying to test is not native to Debian Linux, the native Debian crypt algorithm won't be much use in it's incompatible state. I do get some warning messages when crack is invoked. Perhaps this is related to why it won't run: Any Ideas? bytesex.c: In function `main': bytesex.c:19: warning: left shift count = width of type crack-pwc.c: In function `TryManyUsers': crack-pwc.c:556: warning: passing arg 2 of `strcpy' makes pointer from integer without a cast crack-pwc.c: In function `TryOneUser': crack-pwc.c:598: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' makes pointer from integer without a cast crack-pwc.c: In function `main': crack-pwc.c:1094: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' makes pointer from integer without a cast The version of crack that I am using is 4.1f. I thought that somebody on this list made reference to version 4.5 about a week ago. Do you know what the most recent version is and where it can be obtained? Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HELP!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i loged on for the first time in 2 weeks and i had 405 messages!! i would like to know: H O W DO IG E T O F F T H I S M AIL LIST???// it is driving me crazy..I WANT OFF MANNY thanks
Re: A few problems
On Sat, 24 Aug 1996 23:21:57 +0200 Miro Torrielli ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: I've been having a few problems lately: 2. I can't get diald to work. Pppd works fine, but diald disconnects from my ISP as soon as I get connected. I have a feeling that this has to do with the diald options file, and possibly the pppd options file. Any tips? Have you got the standard configuration ? What does the logs (/var/log/messages /var/log/daemon.log) say ? 3. Lacking knowledge of the XPM format, I need to know how to make transparent pixmap backgrounds (for icons). I can't get xpaint or pixmap to do this. Anyone know how?? Edit the file by hand, and change the background color specification from its color code (#07070808 for example) or name to `none'. I don't know about a graphics program which can do it automatically yet... Phil.
Re: A few problems
Hi Miro -- (I'm not sure of these answers, but see if any of them help.) You asked: 1. After I recompiled the kernel, NAS loads fine at boot, but auplay et all tell me that they can't connect to audio server. Can anybody help?? I think that the error here may be that the kernel provided with 2.0.6 uses a non-standard IRQ (namely, 7) for sound boards. If you recompile a kernel, and use IRQ=5 for your sound board (which is what most of them really use), then you might get NAS to work. Alternatively, some people have reported that they get sound to work if they use kernel 2.0.0, but I don't know exactly what that works for them. 2. I can't get diald to work. Pppd works fine, but diald disconnects from my ISP as soon as I get connected. I have a feeling that this has to do with the diald options file, and possibly the pppd options file. Any tips? Mark Warburton solved his problems by turning off all the modem-related options in the ppp config file. Joonwoo Nam reported that adding 'connect-timeout' as an option solved his problem. He gave this /usr/sbin/ppp-up script: /usr/sbin/ppp-up #!/bin/sh /bin/setserial /dev/cua1 spd_hi /usr/sbin/diald /dev/cua1 -m ppp local 127.0.0.3 \ remote 127.0.0.2 \ defaultroute modem crtscts dynamic connect-timeout 180 \ connect '/usr/sbin/chat -f /etc/ppp/chat-ppp' \ fifo /var/adm/diald.ctl Adding the following entry at the end of /etc/diald.conf also helped me out making the line keep up contiguously: restrict * * * * * up 3. Lacking knowledge of the XPM format, I need to know how to make transparent pixmap backgrounds (for icons). I can't get xpaint or pixmap to do this. Anyone know how?? (Perhaps klutsy, but practical answer:) Convert the xpm file to a .gif (perhaps using xv from the non-free distribution). Then use giftrans to make the gif file transparent. HTH, Susan Kleinmann
Re: Fix for your serial/PPP problems
Hi Philippe -- You wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:14:10 PDT Philippe Troin (phil) wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:23:16 EDT renald loignon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Could someone knowledgeable in low-level kernel matters take a look at th e following? I looked at the Web page, and though it sounds interesting overall (and it WOULD solve a serial problem I experienced with Debian 1. 1.1 and kernel 2.0.6), there appear to be some technical inaccuracies which g ive me second thoughts. Any comments appreciated. [mail copy snipped] I've browsed through the web page, and this just looks sensible to me. The question is: why isn't this part of standard kernel ? I've been trying it for over 24 hours, and I must say I'm quite impressed. PPP performance has really increased. It is streaming for long periods witho ut interruption. And no kernel Ooops or no problems. Seemingly no problems... Can anyone confirm these subjective enhancements ? I mean my PPP connection might just be better by other means... Phil. I've had it going (on and off) for the last day also, and I also have the sense (not quantified or rigorously tested) that it has finally stopped all the billions of stalls I'd been getting. I use a reasonably fast modem, i.e., a data-over-voice ISDN channel that talks through a high-speed serial port at 56K. It may be that my previous stall problems were actually exaccerbated by using a higher-speed serial line (i.e., I must have been offering relatively more interrupts to the CPU than someone with a slower modem). So I _really_ appreciate finding out about this utility. THANKS! Susan Kleinmann
Re: using procmail with emacs RMAIL
Hi Steve, I use Gnus sometimes VM, so I can't tell you a thing about Rmail, except that you should point at the separate spool file that procmail will create. How to do this so that it doesn't just chuck it back in with the rest of your mail, I don't know, though it may be easy. My procmail settings are mostly cribbed from the Mail Filtering FAQ, which I found to be very useful. Among other places: http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html I just copied the setup it outlines, and use these lines to catch Debian mail: :0: * ^TOdebian-user debian-user.spool :0: * ^TOdebian-changes debian-changes.spool Procmail uses one of those stanzas for each filter. The '.spool' suffix is a Gnus default that I went along with. Following the FAQ, I have these in ~/.procmail/rc.maillists--in a more vanilla setup they'd be in ~/.procmailrc. Hth, -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netiquette of requesting package updates
I was being purposely vague because I didn't want to single anyone out, but no, they're both popular text-only programs. One of them is behind by a minor version, the other by a major + 2 minors. No more clues. :) Of course, being purposefully vague only serves to annoy us... Which would you rather see as a maintainer, a note saying that some package that you may or may not maintain is behind, but they won't specify which package, or a note that tells you that your package is behind the upstream release? You should probably send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I -think- that's the address), with the line Package: packagename as the first line in the message. That will send a message only to the maintainer of the package in question, without the rest of us seeing it. Of course, if the newer upstream version of the package fixes important bugs, you might want to file a bug report on those bugs, mentioning tha the newer version fixes them. Or you could look through the bug report archives listed by package, and submit a comment on an existing bug if the upstream version fixes it. If there is a reason why the maintainer hasn't updated it (such as the newer upstream version is still in beta and isn't an official, public release, as is the case with libc5, which has a 5.3.x beta series in development), then he/she will likely tell you. Just some ideas, and no need to be purposefully vague.
Re: using procmail with emacs RMAIL
Hi Steve -- You asked: Can someone point me to info for the quickest, easiest way to use procmail with Emacs RMAIL to separate, say, the debian list into a separate folder? Below I'm forwarding a big hint on this topic given by Dirk Eddelbuettel to someone else a few weeks ago. I found it quite helpful. Regards, Susan Kleinmann --- Forwarded Message Date: Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:18 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: mail-delivery-agents? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lamar I hope you don't mind that I put this back onto the list as other people might wonder about this too. Lamar Hi, Dirk. I seem to be having some trouble getting posts to the Lamar debian-user list, so I'm mailing you directly. Lamar Lamar You posted something about using procmail _and_ pop to sort your Lamar mail. I was wondering how you invoke procmail? I, too, use Lamar popclient to get my mail, and I'd _love_ to be able to have procmail Lamar (or slocal or something) filter it for me. It is all in the procmail manpages --- but as those are quite detailed it hard to find as first sight. Note also that Debian procmail package has, as many other packages, a lot of documentation in /usr/doc/package and /usr/doc/example/package. 1. I start popclient as (indented by a TAB for readability) popclient -s -3 -P ~/.file-with-password host.that.has.mail to get my mail to my local machine. 2. One needs a file ~/.forward of the following form |IFS=' 'exec /usr/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #edd where the end must #user-id as a fallback strategy. This passes the mail to the procmail program. 3. A file ~/.procmailrc describes the sorting rules. There are lots of examples in the manpage, and the /usr/doc/examples/procmail directory. But as a concrete example, here are some pieces. If it looks all to strange, than it's probably time to review a Unix book with something on regular expressions. I just show some entries as it is mostly repetitive - ~/.procmailrc -- # edd 26.10.95 installed from adapted version from /usr/doc/examples/procmail PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:. MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # use `usual' default and not this one: DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mail.in LOGABSTRACT=all LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log/procmail :0: # mail To or CC ctan-ann * (^To|^CC|^Resent-).*ctan-ann@(shsu.edu|RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE) in.ctan-announce :0: # mail To or CC debian-announce * (^To|^CC|^Resent-)[EMAIL PROTECTED](debian.org|pixar.com) in.debian-announce :0: # mail To or CC debian-bugs, debian-bugs-done * (^To|^CC|^Resent-).*debian-bugs(-done)[EMAIL PROTECTED](debian.org|pixar.com) in.debian-bugs :0: # Another one for new bugs system * (^To|^CC|^Resent-)[EMAIL PROTECTED] in.debian-bugs :0: # mail To or CC debian-changes * (^To|^CC|^Resent-)[EMAIL PROTECTED](debian.org|pixar.com) in.debian-changes :0: # mail To or CC debian-devel * (^To|^CC|^Resent-)[EMAIL PROTECTED](debian.org|pixar.com) in.debian-devel :0: # mirror logs * ^To: edd * ^Subject: mirror update$ in.mirror-update - - :0: always starts a new rule section. Line with * describes rules, if there are several they are ANDed together. The last line shows the folder into which a message is put. Hope this helps, Dirk - -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd --- End of Forwarded Message
Re: Netiquette of requesting package updates
Brian C. White wrote: : I spend close : to 50% of my Linux time using two programs, an editor and : a WWW browser, and in both cases the current Debian version : is several months out of date. [...] : I was being purposely vague because I didn't want to single anyone : out, but no, they're both popular text-only programs. One of : them is behind by a minor version, the other by a major + 2 minors. If you're referring to vim in the latter case, I chose not to package vim 4.2 (leaving the current version at 3.0) because it has the restriction that, if it's put on a CD-ROM, you must send the author a copy of the CD. I have contacted the author, and he has indicated that 4.3 will not have this restriction; when it comes out, I'll package it up. Just to let you know that I'm well aware of the situation. :-) If I get enough hate mail, I'll package it up and stick it in non-free, but I don't particularly want to do this. Oh, and in case earlier versions didn't have this restriction - I only recently took over maintaining vim. :-) -- Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. Linux is the answer. http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/ for all your PC software requirements.
Re: Fix for your serial/PPP problems
I've been trying it for over 24 hours, and I must say I'm quite impressed. PPP performance has really increased. It is streaming for long periods without interruption. And no kernel Ooops or no problems. Seemingly no problems... Can anyone confirm these subjective enhancements ? I mean my PPP connection might just be better by other means... To test if you're actually seeing improvement with irqtune, I'd try transferring a large file between your machine and the machine you're connected with (or a machine that's only a few links away) before installing irqtune. Note the transfer rate. Do this a few times to get an average as each time will vary a bit. Then load irqtune and try transferring the same file again several times and see if there's any substantial improvement in the average transfer time. After I saw the original post about irqtune here, I decided to ask about it on the kernel list. Linus is looking into it now. Apparently, irqtune only helps with some (probably buggy) interrupt controllers. Below is Linus' reply along with a kernel patch that *may* possibly have the same effect as irqtune on systems where irqtune does make a difference. On my system, I see no improvement whatsover with irqtune. But, others have seen substantial improvement. Someone told me he saw some improvement but at the cost of slowing down his SCSI drive. Gerry - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 23 03:45:42 1996 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from porsta.cs.Helsinki.FI ([128.214.48.124]) by blue.optimed.com with smtp (ident root using rfc1413) id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.37); Fri, 23 Aug 96 03:45 MDT Received: from linux.cs.Helsinki.FI (linux.cs.Helsinki.FI [128.214.48.39]) by porsta.cs.Helsinki.FI (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA23221; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:10:32 +0300 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:08:43 +0300 (EET DST) From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Russell Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Gerry Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: irqtune: improve serial port performance by 3x? In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Russell Berry wrote: I got this, installed it on both my machines (home/work), and can see a marked increase in ppp performance. However, I'm concerned about interrupt priorities, does this effect _ONLY_ the timer interrupt priorities, or does it actually tweak the way the kernel interprets all system interrupts??? I don't like the fact that irqtune helsp interrupt performance, because the way Linux tries to handle interrupts it _shouldn't_ make a difference. The fact that irqtune obviously _does_ make a difference would indicate that the irq handling has some problem, and irqtune just masks that problem by changing the interrupt priority levels. Essentially, Linux does a EOI immediately when it gets the interrupt, and that EOI _should_ mean that all other interrupts will get through, regardless of whether they have lower or higher priority (because the EOI tells the interrupt controller that it can forget about the interrupt that we're now handling). As such there should be no effect from irqtune, because the interrupt priorities shouldn't really matter. However, Linux uses the nonspecific EOI to do this, and while that should work, it may turn out that some interrupt controllers don't like it, and for some reason mask the wrong interrupt. People who see a difference with irqtune, could you test this patch instead (it changes the low-level interrupt handlers to use the specific EOI to tell the controller that that specific interrupt is now handled). I'd be very interested in reactions to this patch indeed, can you please try it out and tell me whether this makes any difference? (This is against 2.0.14, but it should patch in cleanly against just about any reasonably recent kernel. Certainly all of the 2.0.x series) Linus --- v2.0.14/linux/include/asm-i386/irq.hSun Mar 10 09:28:56 1996 +++ linux/include/asm-i386/irq.hFri Aug 23 08:18:12 1996 @@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ * a bit - without them it seems that the harddisk driver won't work on * all hardware. Arghh. */ -#define ACK_FIRST(mask) \ +#define ACK_FIRST(mask,nr) \ inb $0x21,%al\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ @@ -90,10 +90,10 @@ outb %al,$0x21\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ - 1:\tmovb $0x20,%al\n\t \ + 1:\tmovb $0x60+#nr,%al\n\t \ outb %al,$0x20\n\t -#define ACK_SECOND(mask) \ +#define ACK_SECOND(mask,nr) \ inb $0xA1,%al\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ @@ -102,11 +102,12 @@ outb %al,$0xA1\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ - 1:\tmovb $0x20,%al\n\t \ + 1:\tmovb $0x60+#nr,%al\n\t \
Re: Netiquette of requesting package updates
On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, David Sewell wrote: As a new Debian user who migrated from Slackware, one of the few things I find a comparative disadvantage is being dropped back to earlier releases of certain programs. If you have not done so, you might want to check out the unstable directory to see if there's a more current version of the program(s) you need there. Gerry
Re: Unsubscribing (Was: HELP!! NOW![13]!)
Doesn't anyone save that message they get when they subscribe? Send a message to debian-user@lists.debian.org with the phrase unsubscribe debian-user in the body of the message. (That should do it). On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Stephen M Gordon wrote: i loged on for the first time in 2 weeks and i had 405 messages!! Stop bitching. I get about 100 messages a day - we must've been pretty quiet. You should really have 1,400 messages in your mailbox (probably it filled up or you went over your quota). i would like to know: Just say it once, politely, and don't have such a stupid subject. Calm down on the exclamation points. Most mailers allow you to create a filter which will automagically delete or move messages from a mailing list (for UNIX systems, try ... uhh ... some ..proc command (listproc?)). -- Barid Bel Medar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Knights of the CosmosShayol Ghul Resort and Health Spa -- I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the top. - English Professor, Ohio University --
Re: man crashes
On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: dwarfI've got the same version. I get: dwarf dwarf$ man -kr xx dwarfxxgdb (1x) - X window system interface to the gdb debugger. dwarf dwarfHowever, most of my man pages are in /usr/man not /usr/local/man. Try dwarfrunning mandb on /usr/man and see if that helps. dwarfYou might also try checking the MD5SUM on the package file you installed dwarffrom. If it does not check out, then you got a corrupt package file. Try dwarfgetting a new copy and re-install, if this is the case. dwarfJust an asside...is your shell bash? Yes. Here is the output from what you suggested: mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dpkg-source.1 is a dangling symlink mandb: can't open /usr/man/man1/dpkg-parsechangelog.1: No such file or directory mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dpkg-parsechangelog.1: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dpkg-source.1 is a dangling symlink mandb: can't open /usr/man/man1/dpkg-genchanges.1: No such file or directory mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dpkg-genchanges.1: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dpkg-source.1 is a dangling symlink mandb: can't open /usr/man/man1/dpkg-buildpackage.1: No such file or directory mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dpkg-buildpackage.1: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dpkg-source.1 is a dangling symlink mandb: can't open /usr/man/man1/dpkg-distaddfile.1: No such file or directory mandb: warning: /usr/man/man1/dpkg-distaddfile.1: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request Checking for stray cats under /usr/man... Checking for stray cats under /var/catman... 3 man subdirectories contained newer manual pages. 80 manual pages and 0 stray cats were added. waterf:/home/clameter# man -kr xx Segmentation fault (core dumped) waterf:/home/clameter# Seems that the man package cannot cope with some screwups of the dpkg updates. {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} {}Snail Mail: FTS Box 466, 135 N.Oakland Ave, Pasadena, CA 91182{} {}FISH Internet System Administrator at Fuller Theological Seminary {} {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} PGP Public Key = FB 9B 31 21 04 1E 3A 33 C7 62 2F C0 CD 81 CA B5
Re: man crashes
On 24 Aug 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote: waterf:/usr/local# mandb /usr/local/man Processing manual pages under /usr/local/man... Checking for stray cats under /usr/local/man... Checking for stray cats under /var/catman/local... 0 man subdirectories contained newer manual pages. 0 manual pages and 0 stray cats were added. waterf:/usr/local# man -kr xx Segmentation fault (core dumped) waterf:/usr/local# dpkg -s man Package: man Status: install ok installed Priority: important Section: doc Maintainer: Alvar Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 2.3.10-11 I've got the same version. I get: $ man -kr xx xxgdb (1x) - X window system interface to the gdb debugger. However, most of my man pages are in /usr/man not /usr/local/man. Try running mandb on /usr/man and see if that helps. You might also try checking the MD5SUM on the package file you installed from. If it does not check out, then you got a corrupt package file. Try getting a new copy and re-install, if this is the case. Just an asside...is your shell bash? Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
Squid 1.0.9 available at ftp.fuller.edu
For all those who run the beta version of squid in unstable: There is the release 1.0.9 available at ftp.fuller.edu/Linux/debian. I tried to contact the author but no response meanwhile our Webcahce was crashing every other day. If you are in the same boat...
Re: /etc/passwd migration between systems
As Jim Worthington said: I do know that when I tried to copy my /etc/passwd file from a Sun system to Debian 1.1, the passwords would not decrypt correctly on login. Since the passwd file that I'm trying to test is not native to Debian Linux, the native Debian crypt algorithm won't be much use in it's incompatible state. I've sent this to Jim already, but I'm re-sending it to the list. I can get Crack 4.1 to work to a point, but it either 1) seg-faults near the end, when I compile with -O 2) creates a garbage filename for the final output file, the filename is around 250 bytes (256??) of punctuation and control characters. This is when I compile with -g I ran #2 on a passwd file from a SunOS 4.1.3 machine, and it worked. Crack was able to crack 4 of the users' passwords. So, the crypt() functions from SunOS 4.1.3 and Linux 2.0.12 (er, libc 5.whatever) running on a 486 are compatible. However Jim is seeing an anomaly on his machine. I'm also getting strange behaviour from Crypt, and so is Randy Gobbel. I get segfaults or strange filesystem behavior, and Randy's machine freezes, or also has strange filesystem behavior. Any more strange tales from the crypt() ? (sorry... my attempt at humor) --gilbert __ Gilbert Ramirez Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Texas http://merece.uthscsa.edu/gram Health Science Center at San AntonioUniversity Health System
DPKG Remapping table
Does anyone know where the dpkg remapping table is? I need to remap pentium to i386 due to my recent installation of a pgcc compiler. Trouble is, somehow, dpkg --print-arrcheticture returns pentium. Tends to hose lots of install stuff and cause nice errors with dpkg -i. Anyway, thanks alot. -- === Randall Shutt RaveNet Systems, Inc. ===
Re: man crashes
On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote: Seems that the man package cannot cope with some screwups of the dpkg updates. Sounds like you upgraded to an experimental version of dpkg. Which version do you have? I'm running 1.3.6 with none of these problems. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
Re: man crashes
On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: dwarfOn Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote: dwarf dwarf Seems that the man package cannot cope with some screwups of the dpkg dwarf updates. dwarf dwarfSounds like you upgraded to an experimental version of dpkg. Which version dwarfdo you have? I'm running 1.3.6 with none of these problems. 1.3.9 as of today. Any way to fix those problems? {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} {}Snail Mail: FTS Box 466, 135 N.Oakland Ave, Pasadena, CA 91182{} {}FISH Internet System Administrator at Fuller Theological Seminary {} {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} PGP Public Key = FB 9B 31 21 04 1E 3A 33 C7 62 2F C0 CD 81 CA B5
Does 3C589 work with new PCMCIA?
Is anybody running a 3C589 with the PCMCIA package in the unstable area? I have been running mine fine with Debian 0.93, but when I try setting up a test partition with Debian 1.1 it looks like the card will not enable the interface. The log file shows no error messages, and everything looks like it is working properly, but no messages get through. I have converted all files to the same settings I use on my 0.93 system. I have set IF_PORT to 0, and the log messages show that the 10BaseT is being (correctly) selected. I am running with an HP OmniBook 4000, and the card is a 10BaseT model. Anybody have any suggestions on what else to look at? Carl Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cron error in debian 1.15
Whats wrong with the cron script to produce this error? Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily cfengine:/etc/cfengine/cfengine.conf:23: parse error cfengine::23: Warning: actionsequence is empty cfengine::Execution terminated after parsing due to errors in program
1.1 Install problem
Hello, all, I thought I would give Debian a spin, so I downloaded the 1.1 (kernel 2.0.0) disk images and rawrite2.exe. (I checked all my floppies for bad blocks.) I got to the point where the final base disk had just been read. At this juncture I got the lovely message: hda: read_intr: status = 0x59 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error} hda: read_intr: error = 0x40 {UncorrectableError}, LBAsect = 2247884, sector = 131084 end_request: I/O error, dev 03:04, sector 131084 Kernel panic: EXT2-fs panic (device 03:04): read_inode_bitmap: Cannot read inode bitmap_block_group = 8 inode_bitmap = 65542 Hmmm, I am trying this on my new (and amazingly cheap) 133MHz PCI 586 motherboard with 8M RAM and L1/L2 cache. My disk is a Maxtor 71626A IDE with 1.6Gig (C/H/S 3158/16/63). I already had dos, etc installed on half the disk in one primary and one extended partition. I created two new primary partitions for Linux in the course of the installation process. (I did NOT check them for bad blocks, as presumably this is unnecessary for these modern disks.) The motherboard is very new and has a fancy AMI BIOS. It has a built-in PCI IDE controller, and the BIOS setup allows you to tweak settings for the IDE, like LBA mode, block mode, 32-bit mode, and PIO mode. During the installation, LBA mode was on, block mode was on at 8 sectors, 32-bit mode was on, PIO mode was auto, which meant the machine was coming up with PIO 4. I don't know if this has anything to do with it. The installation also failed with all the fancy IDE stuff turned off (except LBA). I noticed that when the kernel was spewing out its various hardware identification messages, it acknowledged my IDE and noted that the controller was using LBA. However, it displayed cylinder/head/sectors of 789/64/63, not the real 3158/16/63. I tried booting with linux hd=3158,16,63 at the boot: prompt. This didn't seem to help. The kernel startup messages generated seemed to be identical, and subsequent attempts to access the disk failed in the same way. I also looked for CHS-mapping-related options in cfdisk, but there didn't seem to be any. I will now try some more experiments on my own, but ... Oh mighty gurus, please shower this unworthy mortal with advice! Thanks, Kevin Murphy P.S. The only other blip I experienced during installation was the fact that the debian install.txt file misstated the usage of rawrite2. P.P.S. The only other annoying thing during installation was that sometimes the spawned programs would generate messages which were immediately obscured by the installation window's reappearance. In some cases I could catch a brief glimpse of words like 'error', but the installation program didn't seem to find anything to get upset about. It would be nice if there were an obvious way of reviewing the actual output of these programs, if necessary.
Re: Fix for your serial/PPP problems
After I saw the original post about irqtune here, I decided to ask about it on the kernel list. Linus is looking into it now. Funny thing is, the following message was posted in that very same kernel list on August 7th, and even though I and a couple of others chimed in with confirmation of the problem, at that time Linus did not appear to notice the thread, or chose not to respond (we all have the same 24hours/day to work with, after all, so I understand) On August 7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wallace Poon) wrote in linux.dev.kernel: I used Linux 1.2.13 and then up to 2.0.3 and found no problem in using rz in Minicom for downloading. Once I upgraded to 2.0.9 and beyond, there is ALWAYS CRC errors when the IDE hardisk read/write. There is also packet dropped in PPP session. So could someone help me with this problem ? The Quantum 1.7G IDE is connected to the on-board IDE controller. Wallace Apparently, irqtune only helps with some (probably buggy) interrupt controllers. I politely beg to differ, in that I think you are generalizing excessively and prematurely. In Wallace's case above, the same hardware did not exhibit the problem with a slightly earlier version of the kernel (2.0.3), so there's some food for thought. Furthermore, in the case of my own target machine (a modest 386-40 with 8MB RAM), I can and *have* done problem-free high-speed (V34) downloads under DOS, Windows95, OS/2 Warp Connect and older Linux kernels (e.g. 1.2.13 as found in Slackware 3.0 and RedHat 3.3.3). Now of course Wallace and I only represent two data points, but shouldn't that be enough to caution you against prematurely declaring all affected hardware to be buggy? Below is Linus' reply along with a kernel patch that *may* possibly have the same effect as irqtune on systems where irqtune does make a difference. On my system, I see no improvement whatsover with irqtune. But, others have seen substantial improvement. Someone told me he saw some improvement but at the cost of slowing down his SCSI drive. Better to slow down disk I/O a bit than to suffer frequent overruns (and their consequences such as block resends, PPP stalls, etc...) on incoming serial traffic, no? Anyway, it's all a matter of priority (which is exactly what this irqtune gizmo is supposed to allow us to tune...). I'm glad this is being discussed and tested by a lot of knowledgeable people. That's all I hoped to achieve by bringing this issue up in here. Thank you for doing your share by managing to attract Linus' attention to it on the kernel mailing list...
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Re: Cron error in debian 1.15
Hi ReWt -- You asked: Whats wrong with the cron script to produce this error? Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily cfengine:/etc/cfengine/cfengine.conf:23: parse error cfengine::23: Warning: actionsequence is empty cfengine::Execution terminated after parsing due to errors in program When you installed cfengine, the following message probably scrolled by on your screen (I'm just fetching the text from the /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfengine.postinst file): This package will generate an error mail message every night regarding the action sequence being empty until the /etc/cfengine/cfengine.conf file is edited (by hand) to reflect the tasks you wish to perform on this system. This is not a bug. HTH, Susan Kleinmann
Re: lyx and fonts
Hakan Ardo writes: Sorry, there's only one: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/lyx.1.gz. Even taht one is missing... Hmm, I have it. :-) Try reinstalling the package. OK, I suppose I update to the unstable version at the same time :-) Well, I am using mfbasfnt 1.0-3. Because 1.0-4 is in the unstable distrobutinge, and I thought that with unstable you ment not yet usable. But I am getting the No. :-) Good to know, shoulden't this be stated somewhere so that everyone can find it, or is it just Me that are missing it... feeling that the packages in there is perfectly OK to use. What is the general feeling about them? Do you allow dselect to update your packages as soon as a new version shows up in unstable, or how carefull do I have to be with them? I usually use dftp so I don't know. :-) Now, what is dftp? And what advantages do it have over dselect? Normally they work very well. If not there'll be another release pretty soon. I can find no mfdcfnt package. I should be freely downloadable even if it is in the non-free distrobution, right? Right. But maybe it wasn't on the mirror yet. Maby so, I try again later. How log is the usual update time for the mirrors?
Re: gs 3.53 and up
Ervin D. Walter writes (gs 3.53 and up): ... Now, the wierd parts. First, these errors don't occur every time, and they don't occur in the same place every time. Second, the exact save .ps file sent through gs 2.whatever or gs = 3.53 *compiled with optimizations turned off* works perfectly. ... A new GCC was released by the FSF recently. One of the reasons they gave was that it could miscompile ghostscript. ITYSBT. Fortunately, your gs maintainer (me) is subscribed to the gcc2 mailing list, and, to the best of my knowledge, the bug was avaided in the gs-3.53 sources by redefining const. I've even put a note about this in /usr/doc/gs/ somewhere (forget what file). Oh, and I've installed David's gcc-2.7.2.1 now, so all gs packages released since last week or so are compiled OK. As far as I'm aware, Ervin himself is now also satisfied that it's his processor that was at fault, in this case (as I guessed). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux!
Re: xconsole error
Hi Ken -- You wrote: I am having difficulty getting the xconsole to work running in fvwm (or any window manager). I use a .xsession file in my home directory. Here is that file: - begin .xsession file - #!/bin/bash [snip] xconsole -exitOnFail -g 490x200-20-50 -- end .xsession file - [snip] At first I did not have the exitOnFail in the xconsole line, and I would get an xconsole window that said Couldn't open console. With the exitOnFail, I just get no window at all. Your /dev/xconsole should look like this: prw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Aug 25 06:37 /dev/xconsole| If not, execute: mknod -m 644 /dev/xconsole p Be sure that the xconsole line is uncommented in /etc/syslog.conf: auth.*;daemon.*;mail.*;news.crit;news.err;news.notice;*.=debug;*.=info;\ *.=notice;*.=warn;cron.none |/dev/xconsole I start xconsole with this: xconsole -file /dev/xconsole If you try bringing up xconsole and see nothing, then it's possible that you've already been logging messages for a while and the pipe filled up, so syslog quit sending messages to it. To start over again, issue this command: kill -SIGHUP `cat /var/run/syslog.pid` HTH, Susan Kleinmann
Re: Squid 1.0.9 available at ftp.fuller.edu
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: For all those who run the beta version of squid in unstable: There is the release 1.0.9 available at ftp.fuller.edu/Linux/debian. I tried to contact the author but no response meanwhile our Webcahce was crashing every other day. If you are in the same boat... OK, then I guess it's time to upload my interim version to master. I have packaged squid-1.0.9 and have it running on a couple of machines. I'll upload it to master in a few minutes but in the mean time you can get it from ftp://ftp.cistron.nl/pub/people/miquels/alpha/ Mike. -- Miquel van | Cistron Internet Services --Alphen aan den Rijn. Smoorenburg,| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cistron.nl/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: +31-172-419445 (Voice) 430979 (Fax) 442580 (Data)
Re: /etc/passwd migration between systems
On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Jim Worthington wrote: Hi Jim, Does Linux use a different encryption algorithm than Sun? (obviously it is different) Is there any Sun compatability login software for Linux that would allow me to use a common password database between the two systems? When both machines are attached to the same LAN the use of NIS would help. Works perfectly here with serveral different UNIX types like BSD/Linux/Solaris/SunOs. The NIS Server runs on a SunOS Machine. Greetings, Steffen PGP Key is available under : http://www.xlink.net/~steffen/steffen.asc - Steffen R.Mueller __ ___ _ _ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH \ \/ / (_)_ __ | | __ fax : +49 721 9652 210 Geschaeftsbereich Xlink \ /| | | '_ \| |/ / phone: +49 721 9652 211 Vincenz-Priessnitz-Str. 3/ \| | | | | | RIPE : SM25-RIPE D-76131 Karlsruhe, Germany /_/\_\_|_|_| |_|_|\_\ WWW.Xlink.net/~steffen
Re: /etc/passwd migration between systems
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried UFC CRYPT in addition to FCRYPT with equally un-successful results. The use of standard crypt makes sense as you suggest, however, I believe that the crypt which is distributed with Debian 1.1 is broken, or at least incompatable with the standard Unix crypt algorithm. Whether this is a bug or a security enhancement is unknown. I can assure you that the crypt included in the Linux libc is compatible with other Unix crypts. We are using NIS in our internal network, and I've worked with Solaris NIS servers, SunOS NIS servers and Linux NIS servers (now only using the Linux NIS server) with accounts/passwords generated on all of them. Everything can talk with eachother. Please don't spread around such misinformation about Linux and/or Debian. It is bad publicity, and does hurt us all. I don't know what problem you are seeing with Crack, but I compiled it myself a couple of months ago with no trouble what so ever. Mike. -- + Miquel van Smoorenburg + Cistron Internet Services + Living is a | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SP6) | Independent Dutch ISP | horizontal | + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.cistron.nl/+ fall+
Re: /dev/console and headless computers
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /etc/init.d/console, /etc/rc.boot/0kbd . Look at /etc/config/console and /etc/config/kbd . Hmm.. I seem to be lacking an /etc/config/ directory. I'm running debian 1.1.6, what package have I neglected to install? Uhm no that should be /etc/kbd/config, if you have it. For some reason the kbd package creates its own directory for just one config file. I think later kbd packages do not link /dev/console anymore because that's not the job of the kbd package. If any script should do it it's /etc/init.d/boot, and then only if my serial console patches get integrated into the kernel (needs a rewrite first). Mike. -- + Miquel van Smoorenburg + Cistron Internet Services + Living is a | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SP6) | Independent Dutch ISP | horizontal | + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.cistron.nl/+ fall+
Re: inewsinn?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to be having a problem with inewsinn. I compiled nn locally and set it up to use inews (from the inewsinn package) to post the article. However, when inews goes to send the article, it creates large amounts of traffic over my serial link. I would assume it's trying to get the active or newsgroups file from my NNTP server. Is this normal, and if so, is there some way to configure or set up things so that it won't try to do this? Hmm, I don't know what its doing but you could try to strace it to find out. Install strace from the devel/ tree, and when your inews has started find out its process id with ps ax | grep inews and then strace it with strace -fp process_id_here. You can then see exactly what it is doing.. Mike. -- + Miquel van Smoorenburg + Cistron Internet Services + Living is a | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SP6) | Independent Dutch ISP | horizontal | + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.cistron.nl/+ fall+
how in the world?........
can I delete unnecessary partitions?Ibegan to install debian on C drive but decided to wait until I could install a discrete hard drive to dedicate to debian or other linux.This accomplished, I attempted to delete the partitions I created on C drive, but fdisk tells me I can't delete extended partition while logical drives exist but when I attempt to delete the logical drives I'm told that no logical drives are defined both disks are relatively small so it is of substantial concern that I am able to reclaim this space. any suggestions?...Mike List
babel 3.6-4 trouble
When trying to configure babel 3.6-4 it claims that manfnt.mf is missing in the Rebuilding 'amstex' format section and after the Appending font creation commands to missfont.log message it places utselfe in some sort of loop which I stoped when /usr/lib/texmf/amslex.log had grown to about 720 Mb, and started generating Filesystem is full errors.
procps 1.01a-1 problems
Hi, I tested to install procps 1.01a-1, but after that all I get out of ps is: ps: can't load library 'libproc.so.1.01a' The libriry I have is libproc.so.0.99, which package contains the new version, and shouldn't the dependency infomation in procps have told me that?
a4.sty and a4wide.sty
Hi, I have latex 2e-7 installed, but I can't find a4.sty a4wide.sty, in which package are they?
Re: Squid 1.0.9 available at ftp.fuller.edu
?? Why double the work. This was an ad for the debianized version. On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: miquelsIn article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: miquelsFor all those who run the beta version of squid in unstable: There is miquelsthe release 1.0.9 available at ftp.fuller.edu/Linux/debian. miquels miquelsI tried to contact the author but no response meanwhile our Webcahce miquelswas crashing every other day. miquels miquelsIf you are in the same boat... miquels miquelsOK, then I guess it's time to upload my interim version to master. miquelsI have packaged squid-1.0.9 and have it running on a couple of miquelsmachines. I'll upload it to master in a few minutes but in the mean miquelstime you can get it from miquels miquelsftp://ftp.cistron.nl/pub/people/miquels/alpha/ miquels miquelsMike. miquels miquels-- miquels Miquel van | Cistron Internet Services --Alphen aan den Rijn. miquels Smoorenburg,| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cistron.nl/ miquels[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: +31-172-419445 (Voice) 430979 (Fax) 442580 (Data) miquels {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} {}Snail Mail: FTS Box 466, 135 N.Oakland Ave, Pasadena, CA 91182{} {}FISH Internet System Administrator at Fuller Theological Seminary {} {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} PGP Public Key = FB 9B 31 21 04 1E 3A 33 C7 62 2F C0 CD 81 CA B5
Re: Netiquette of requesting package updates
I spend close to 50% of my Linux time using two programs, an editor and a WWW browser, and in both cases the current Debian version is several months out of date. Which editor and browser are you talking about? Are you looking at the stable or the development directory tree? I maintain the netscape package and it is right up to date. I was being purposely vague because I didn't want to single anyone out, but no, they're both popular text-only programs. One of them is behind by a minor version, the other by a major + 2 minors. I suggest you contact the maintainer and (politely, of course) ask if he/she is planning a new release soon. Also, offering to take over the packages because you use them quite extensively might be an idea. The first time you create a new package it will probably take half a day to a day, but gets much easier with a little practice. I can now build new packages in about 30 minutes. Some of the more complex ones (like gnats) will take more time. Maintaining existing packages is usually quite easy, however. I took over cfengine because we use it here quite extensively and the previous maintainer was not. Since you use those two packages a lot, you will probably be a good and responsive maintainer. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
Re: Cron error in debian 1.15
Whats wrong with the cron script to produce this error? Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily cfengine:/etc/cfengine/cfengine.conf:23: parse error cfengine::23: Warning: actionsequence is empty cfengine::Execution terminated after parsing due to errors in program Nothing is wrong with it. You have not configured cfengine. When you installed cfengine you would have gotten the following message: - This package will generate an error mail message every night regarding the action sequence being empty until the /etc/cfengine/cfengine.conf file is edited (by hand) to reflect the tasks you wish to perform on this system. This is not a bug. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
Re: Unsubscribing (Was: HELP!! NOW![13]!)
Doesn't anyone save that message they get when they subscribe? Send a message to debian-user@lists.debian.org with the phrase unsubscribe debian-user in the body of the message. (That should do it). That should read [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
/etc/passwd migration between systems
As Jim Worthington said: I do know that when I tried to copy my /etc/passwd file from a Sun system to Debian 1.1, the passwords would not decrypt correctly on login. Just another data point I just copied my passwords from my SVR4 Dell Unix system to Linux, and they worked fine. I didn't just copy the /etc/passwd file because I wanted to preserve some of the default logins that Debian gives, and I also had to snarf the passwords out of /etc/shadow. In the past, I have also copied passwords from HP-UX, Sun OS, and SGI machines to my Dell machine, so I would say that all of these systems must use the same format. -wayne
Three Probs
I have everything running but two things didn't work out. My root login, well I don't have one. When I boot from LILO I go straight to linux without going into a login and password prompt. I am the user root. I would like to have a root login and personal login just to save my machine from its user mainly me. Also I can't use my mouse pad (Linux is on my laptop) without linux locking up. I have to suspend the computer then come back into it for things to work again. Is there a way to tell Linux to ignore output from the mouse pad. One more thing how do I make sure I have the most recent version of everything. Web base, ftp doc? I know about ftp.debain.com/buzz but do I have to install things from /fixes too. Thanks Marcus Hightower
RE: how in the world?........
On 13:32:56 Mike Candy List wrote: can I delete unnecessary partitions?Ibegan to install debian on C drive but decided to wait until I could install a discrete hard drive to dedicate to debian or other linux.This accomplished, I attempted to delete the partitions I created on C drive, but fdisk tells me I can't delete extended partition while logical drives exist but when I attempt to delete the logical drives I'm told that no logical drives are defined both disks are relatively small so it is of substantial concern that I am able to reclaim this space. any suggestions?...Mike List Mike, Seen this one before too! I think you probably created the partitions with Linux fdisk, and are attempting to delete them using DOS fdisk. Doesn't work! You'll have to remove them with Linux fdisk or format the drive, I think. You could try setting the partition type to a DOS FAT (I think its type 6), but you'll even have to use Linux fdisk to do that. DOS will see the partition, and calls it NON-DOS, but it won't let you manipulate the table entries for it at all. If you can, set it do a DOS type, and then you'll be able to delete it with DOS fdisk. Paul
Re: a4.sty and a4wide.sty
Hi Hakan -- You asked: I have latex 2e-7 installed, but I can't find a4.sty a4wide.sty, in which package are they? I think the Latex-2e approach is not to use .sty files, but to use .cls (class) files. Support for a4 letter paper is built into the article.cls file, for example, but the option a4paper. So, to get output formatted for a4 paper, you would invoke the article style this way: \documentclass[titlepage, oneside, a4paper, 11pt]{article} \usepackage{html} \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} where the options titlepage, oneside, 11pt, etc., are all optional (!); I just put them there to illustrate that you can have more than 1 option in the []. I also added the statements regarding usepackage as a further example of package-loading in latex-2e. If you'd like to read more about this, you might want to get a copy of the boot The LaTeX Companion, by Goosens, Mittelbach, and Samarin. HTH, Susan Kleinmann
Re: procps 1.01a-1 problems
Hi Hakan -- You said: I tested to install procps 1.01a-1, but after that all I get out of ps is: ps: can't load library 'libproc.so.1.01a' The libriry I have is libproc.so.0.99, which package contains the new version , and shouldn't the dependency infomation in procps have told me that? I'm not quite sure what you mean by tested to install. It looks like you failed to install the version of procps which is in the unstable (a.k.a. rex) tree, but instead have installed on your system the version of procps which comes in the stable (a.k.a. buzz-fixed) tree. Exactly what happened when you tried to install /rex/binary/base/procps_1.01a-1.deb ? And what do you see now when you execute dpkg -l procps Susan Kleinmann
Problems with X-windows Install
Has everyone been able to install x-windows with little pain? I have been trying to install x-windows for the last 3 weeks. Whenever I dselect xserver, etc, etc and select install it follows the entire setup procedure when it has completed all the steps it says that it's missing elf## package. I have searched for a package that looks anything like this and I can't find it. I would greatly appreciate any information regarding this error. Walter A. Birriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a4.sty and a4wide.sty
Hi Hakan -- You asked: I have latex 2e-7 installed, but I can't find a4.sty a4wide.sty, in which package are they? I think the Latex-2e approach is not to use .sty files, but to use .cls (class) files. Support for a4 letter paper is built into the article.cls file, for example, but the option a4paper. So, to get output formatted for a4 paper, you would invoke the article style this way: \documentclass[titlepage, oneside, a4paper, 11pt]{article} \usepackage{html} \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} where the options titlepage, oneside, 11pt, etc., are all optional (!); I just put them there to illustrate that you can have more than 1 option in the []. I also added the statements regarding usepackage as a further example of package-loading in latex-2e. OK, this works all fine, but the there is the trouble with my old latex files, latex still supports the us of sty files, right? I have several documents that uese that apportch, and I felt it easyer to install the stys, than convert all my files. Then there is the trouble with lyx. I have just started to try it out, and it seems like it uses the sty approch, but it might be a misconfiguration of it to...
Re: procps 1.01a-1 problems
Hi Hakan -- You said: I tested to install procps 1.01a-1, but after that all I get out of ps is: ps: can't load library 'libproc.so.1.01a' The libriry I have is libproc.so.0.99, which package contains the new version , and shouldn't the dependency infomation in procps have told me that? I'm not quite sure what you mean by tested to install. It looks like you failed to install the version of procps which is in the unstable (a.k.a. rex) tree, but instead have installed on your system the version of procps which comes in the stable (a.k.a. buzz-fixed) tree. Exactly what happened when you tried to install /rex/binary/base/procps_1.01a-1.deb ? Well, it seemed to work just fine. What I ment by tested to install was that I afterwards reinstalled to older version form the stable distrobution, because it did not work. And what do you see now when you execute dpkg -l procps hmm, when I now tried to reinstalle the unstable version to recreate the porblem, ps works just fine! Sorry to bather you, I must have made some foolish mistake.
Re: Problems with X-windows Install
Hi Walter -- You asked: Has everyone been able to install x-windows with little pain? I have been trying to install x-windows for the last 3 weeks. Whenever I dselect xserver, etc, etc and select install it follows the entire setup procedure when it has completed all the steps it says that it's missing elf## package. I have searched for a package that looks anything like this and I can't find it. It sounds as if the missing package is elf-x11r6lib. That library is one of 3 libraries provided by the package xlib. You can tell if you've got xlib installed by issuing the command: dpkg -l xlib You'll need several other packages to make X work also: xbase xserver-whatever_is_right_for_your_video_card, e.g., xserver-s3 for most Diamond cards xfntbase and possibly some other xfnt files (I just load all of them) and one of the window managers: either twm (this is provided by xbase, so you needn'e load a new package), fvwm, fvwm2, 9wm, or gwm. I use fvwm, but am meaning to migrate to fvwm2. I think one of these is the most popular in the Debian world. If you need more help than this, just send me private email. I'll be happy to help. Good luck, Susan Kleinmann
problem with the mailing list
Does anyone else get repeated messages from Manager, AlisaMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] regarding Undeliverable Mail? As far as I can tell, the only person whose address comes close to lockheed.com who has written to the list is Mark Rahner [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I've gotten about half a dozen of these in the last 2 days, and it's beginning to wear... Susan Kleinmann