What where huh?

1996-09-14 Thread marcus hightower
When I go for my packages to install should I look in buzz, buxx-fixed, or rex.

Which way do I go, Which way do I go.:-)

thanks



Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-14 Thread Mike Coleman
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald van Loon)
   Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:53:42 +0200 (MET DST)

   |Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
   |From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   | 
   |Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
   |libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks.  After which nothing will
   |install.
   | 
   | I believe this just happened to me with dpkg-ftp as well.
   |
   |It sounds like dpkg-ftp and dftp don't respect pre-depends?  That would
   |be extremely bad.

   Hmmm, I installed my entire system with the 5 disks and dpkg-ftp (1.1.4) and
   had no problems whatsoever.

My initial installation went fine.  But at some point dselect decided to pull
down more recent version of (I believe) libc5 and ld.so and dpkg.  That was
when the problems occurred.

--Mike



Re: Anonymous ftp and the ls command.

1996-09-14 Thread Mark Eichin
doesn't wu-ftpd use builtin code for simple ls?



Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-14 Thread Bruce Perens
 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
 From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
 libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks.  After which nothing will
 install.

Am I right in assuming that this is an upgrade from 0.93 to 1.1 ?
I can't think of another reason that libc5 would not be installed.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1996-09-14 Thread Joey Hess
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Sven Rudolph wrote:
   2.  Packages needing a new maintainer
   Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
   o  aout-svgalib
   o  svgalib1
   o  svgalib1-bin
   o  svgalib1-dev

I need a newer varsion of svgalib for a program (XaoS) I want to package
up for debian. Is this package orphaned? Is anyone else planning on
taking over maintaining it? I don't really want to take on such an
important package myself (too new at this).



Re: Installation problems: boot, nfs, X

1996-09-14 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Mikko Suonio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Starting Dynamic Drive Overlay
 Press spacebar to boot from diskette...
 ERROR: Incompatible BIOS Translation Detected.
 Refer to your Ontrack documentation for more information.
 Insert boot ...

 It seems to be a hardware problem. Or?

You are using Ontrack Disk Manager on your hard disk. This isn't going
to work well with Linux. If you don't have anything _but_ Linux on that
hard drive, I suggest you purge Disk Manager from the drive. If this is
the C: drive on the computer, you can probably purge it by saying y
to the install master boot record question when you install the LILO
package.

Otherwise, just boot Linux from a floppy.

Regarding the NFS problem, please build a custom kernel for your system.

 3. I am not able to run XFree. I'm using the Mach64-server with a
XF86Config that worked with RH 2.1. I just get (startx)

PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file  Roman_M
Fatal server error:
Cannot open mouse (No such device)

The ps/2 mouse driver is in the psaux module.

Bruce



Re: Debian Logo?

1996-09-14 Thread Mark Eichin

 Logo.  (And before people complain that Logo is too frivolous a language
 to have in the distribution, remember we have an Intercal package already.)

If there's a decent unix logo out there, point me at it and I'll take
a look...
_Mark_
maintainer of frivolous languages :-)



execute permissions in /etc/init.d

1996-09-14 Thread Al Youngwerth
Is there a good reason why all the start stop functions in /etc/init.d are 
executable by anybody by default. It seems to me that this allows your average 
user to stop an important system service. Anyone have comments?

Al Youngwerth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Anonymous ftp and the ls command.

1996-09-14 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
Mark Eichin wrote:
 
 doesn't wu-ftpd use builtin code for simple ls?

I don't know but I haven't installed wu-ftpd myself, only the standard
ftpd that comes with the netstd package. Maybe the solution to my
problem is just to install this package.

Pedro Ivan
--



Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-14 Thread Brian C. White
  Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
  From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
  libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks.  After which nothing will
  install.
 
 Am I right in assuming that this is an upgrade from 0.93 to 1.1 ?
 I can't think of another reason that libc5 would not be installed.

No.  This was a recent upgarde of a few packages in unstable on a
right-up-to-date system.  As I understand it, what happened was
approximately this...

  dpkg --install .../ldso* .../libc5* .../other packages

the results were

  unpack ldso
  unpack libc5(error perl: cannot find libdl.so.1)
  unpack others (error perl: cannot find libdl.so.1 occasionally)

Apperently it never configured ldso before proceeding to the remaining
packages.  Configuring ldso and libc5 and then installing everything again
was successful.

(Note that this is from memory and so may not be entirely accurate.)
  
  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
 
---
In theory, theory and practice are the same.  In practice, they're not.




Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection

1996-09-14 Thread Bruce Perens
There is a Disable source routes prompt when configuring the kernel
(with make menuconfig or make config). You are free to enable it
when building your own kernel.

I'd like to hear a good explanation of what the security problem is,
and why anyone would want to use source routes.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-14 Thread Mike Coleman
   Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 11:29 PDT
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens)

Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks.  After which nothing will
install.

   Am I right in assuming that this is an upgrade from 0.93 to 1.1 ?
   I can't think of another reason that libc5 would not be installed.

I don't have a log of what happened, so take this with a grain of salt, but my
impression was that ld.so and libc5 both existed, but were going to be
updated, and it was the update that didn't work correctly.

In particular, I believe I started with a set of buzz-fixed boot disks, and
then installed rex packages on the system.  I'm assuming that ld.so or libc5
has been updated since the buzz-fixed disks were last cut.

--Mike



Re: Lynx and binary files

1996-09-14 Thread Brian C. White
  (a)   Content-type: application/GNU Compr. Tar
 
  (b)   Content-type: text/plain
 
  The question now is, who tells lynx to identify these files?
 
 It's normal - look at lynx.cfg file and modify it - it should contain lot
 of lines with first word SUFFIX (it tels how to transfer different filetypes)
 an add lines like:
 
 SUFFIX:.deb:application/octet-stream
 SUFFIX:.tgz:application/octet-stream
 
 I think that in Debian version of Lynx file lynx.cfg should at least contain
 first line!!!

If Lynx reads /etc/mime.types, then both of these are already defined.

application/x-debian-packagedeb
application/x-gtar  gtar tgz
 
  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
 
---
 measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell



Re: cfs Debian package available!

1996-09-14 Thread Patrick J. Edwards
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 oh boy you don't know how glad I am to hear this, after spending 10
 solid hours yesterday fiddling around with Olaf Kirch's linux port of CFS.
 Can you please point me to yours?

You'll be able to find cfs at my homepage for the time being.
Thats at http://www.cs.usask.ca/undergrads/pje120/linux/cfs.html. 

 PACKAGE: cfs
 VERSION: 1.1.2-1
 DEPENDS: netstd (= 2.0.5)
 ARCHITECTURE: i386
 SECTION: admin
 PRIORITY: optional
 MAINTAINER: Patrick Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DESCRIPTION:
  Cryptographic Filesystem uses NFS to allow for a complete file system 
  that is encrypted on the fly. It uses DES, and Triple-DES.

de3944f245f85bc08f2d49774aeba090  cfs-1.1.2-1.deb
1460f0b6be22bbf7ef6b301b5aa36b98  cfs-1.1.2-1.diff.gz
fa854471a87c0ce78c5cfb435acd077e  cfs-1.1.2-1.tar.gz


It is important to note the following:

1. I need a non US and a non Canada Web site, otherwise it would become
illegal to export Debian without the permission of either government and
ATT.

2. Even though *I* view this as a stable and mature package, it needs to
be tested before it really is considered so. The extent of my testing has
been on my machine only so I would appreciate feed back. (email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 


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Re: texbin postinst in unstable fails

1996-09-14 Thread Antoine Reid
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Miro Torrielli wrote:

 I installed debian 1.1.8 on another pc, using dpgk-ftp to
 retrieve all necessary packages, from stable  unstable.
 Firstly, I noticed that when installing a large number of
 packages on the system, the unpacking of some of them fail,
 complaining that some lib or another is missing. This has
 already happened twice before, on two other machines.

happened here too, on a newly mke2fs'ed box, with only pppd and a few net
packages installed, using dpkg-ftpd, using rex.
 
also, the dircolors included in the util-linux (or so..) package doesn't
have the -z option anymore (for zsh). 
 
Help would be appreciated.

thanx, 
Antoine Reid

PS: Make sure to reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you CC to me... thanx

Antoine Reid / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KeyID 1024/6E2E993D
Fingerprint 6D A5 D2 D9 FC 17 FB 74  4A BB E7 70 41 E3 3A A1
-= All opinions are my own, so leave my employer out of this =-



Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-14 Thread David Engel
Brian C. White writes:
 No.  This was a recent upgarde of a few packages in unstable on a
 right-up-to-date system.  As I understand it, what happened was
 approximately this...
 
   dpkg --install .../ldso* .../libc5* .../other packages
 
 the results were
 
   unpack ldso
   unpack libc5(error perl: cannot find libdl.so.1)
   unpack others (error perl: cannot find libdl.so.1 occasionally)

This is due to a problem in the ld.so packaging.  It will be fixed in
the next version.  Until it's available, you should install ld.so by
itself.

David
-- 
David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX  75081



Re: execute permissions in /etc/init.d

1996-09-14 Thread Christian Hudon
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Al Youngwerth wrote:

 Is there a good reason why all the start stop functions in /etc/init.d
 are executable by anybody by default. It seems to me that this allows
 your average user to stop an important system service. Anyone have
 comments? 

No it doesn't. Normal (i.e. non-root) users can only kill processes that
they own... which just about means processes that they have started. So
/etc/init.d being executable by world is not a problem at all.

Try stopping one of these services (as a non-root user)... you'll see.

   Christian




Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection

1996-09-14 Thread Christian Hudon
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

 I'd like to hear a good explanation of what the security problem is,
 and why anyone would want to use source routes.

The security problem? Basically, if you've got source routing enabled, I
can send bad IP packets to your machine and they'll get there. By 'bad' I
mean, say, packets with a wrong 'Source IP' field.

This can be used to get packets from 'outside' through a firewall and make
the packets look like they came from 'inside' to the destination machine,
I believe.

And of course, this is kinda 'helpful' to crack services (eg rsh, etc.)
that put trust into specific IP numbers.

I don't know it that was very clear, but at least it was some kind of an
explanation. Please keep 'Drop source routed frames' enabled in the Debian
kernels.

  Christian



X authorization

1996-09-14 Thread dkklee
How is the X authorization set up in Debian?

I am running xdm and I discovered that only the login user can
start an X window. There are 2 situations when I cannot start a 
X window:
(1) when I try to start a window after 'su' to root. I discovered this
can be fixed if I do 'xhost +mymachinename'. How to this automatically?
A line in Xaccess or some /etc/X11/X???.hosts file?
(2) after establishing a PPP connection to my service provider and 
changing my hostname (I have only a dynamic IP address from my ISP).
Here I suppose there is nothing I can do except do xhost from my ip-up
script after fixing (1).

--Derek Lee



ftp-user in lynx

1996-09-14 Thread Martin Schulze
Good morning fans,

  Where is the username for ftp downloads defined in lynx?

  I'm working on two machines, one a.out (migrating to Debian) and one
  elf (Debian).  On both machines the same version of lynx is installed.

  Package: lynx
  Status: install ok installed
  Priority: optional
  Section: net
  Maintainer: Andrew Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Version: 2.4-FM-960316-1

  When I make an ftp download from the elf machine lynx uses 'joey@'
  as password, on the a.out machine lynx takes 'WWWuser@'. Why?

Thanks for your assistance,

Joey

-- 
  / Martin Schulze  *  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *  26129 Oldenburg /
 / http://home.pages.de/~joey/
/  VFS: no free i-nodes, contact Linus  -- finlandia, Feb '94   /



Re: Installing on a portable

1996-09-14 Thread Tony Robinson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Stromberg) writes:

 I don't know anything about PCMCIA, but I know that if you know what you're
 doing (like checking dependencies and such) using dpkg is ok - dselect is
 there to help you check dependencies and to display what packages there are.
 So I'd say go ahead and use dpkg to install the package.
 
 Helpful?

Yes indeed, thank you.

For the record, I used the standard boot/root/base1,2,3 floppies.  I
then used dd to dump a tar file of the pcmcia debian packages to floppy,
and dd at the other side to retrieve them.  dpkg -i installed the
packages (first time it complained about a missing modules directory -
guess I got the order wrong).  I configured the network by hand
(ifconfig and route - there probably is a better way of doing this) and
then I was talking to the rest of the world and could use dselect.

Curiously I had another problem, that is all the boot kernels I used
(buzz, buzz-fixed and rex - I tried them all several times each), gave
nfs_* symbols not resolved (symbols in 2.0.6 don't match version 2.0.6
or similar message).  This means that I couldn't load the nfs module
and so had to use ftp access instead.  I'm puzzled by this as I can't
remember the same problem with the other two (desktop) systems I've
installed.

Thanks to the poster and Brian Mays who emailed me, I'm now up and running.


Tony Robinson



Re: Undefined module symbols

1996-09-14 Thread Chuma Agbodike
James MacLean wrote:
 
 On Sep 13,  1:59pm, Chuma Agbodike wrote:
  Subject: Undefined module symbols
  Greetings.
 
I picked up DOSEMU 0.63.1.75 from your ftp site. Installed it,
  but I have run into a wall. I get a screenful of undefined module
  symbols. And DOSEMU fails to load.
I am runing Linux version 2.0.13   What do you recommend that
  I do to get DOSEMU to work?
 
 
  Best regards
  Chuma
 
 Have you upgraded your kernel in between compiling DOSEmu? If so , try another
 make and see if it updates the modules. Otherwise, try modifying the
 load_module.sh  file to include some extra params like the -Z and -z parms.
 execute DOSEmu's insmod without any parms to see the options.
 
 LAter,
 JES
 
 --
 James B. MacLean[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Department of Education http://www.ednet.ns.ca/~macleajb/dosemu.html
 Nova Scotia, Canada
 B3M 4B2

Thanks James.

After studying your response, I searched for all ocurences of insmod.
There was another lurking somewhere. I renamed it to insmodold. Even 
though you said use the other insmod, it would not work. I kept on 
getting: insmod not a file or directory. Well I went to read LINUX 
manual about unix commands and started to understand why 
./load_module.sh has that dot before the slash. In DOS if you're in the
current DIR and the command is there the system doesn't have to stick to
the path. So you get my drift I hope. Anyway I applied my haunch and got
the help info after I did ./insmod from /usr/src/dosemu.bin where the
insmod command was placed. It worked.

From there I went on. Now I studied the DOSEMU info files some more and 
finally was able to get DOSEMU started.

Thanks.

Now I have to figure out why am getting:

DOSEMU: ttys lock: (/usr/spool/uucp/LCK .. mouse): No such file or dir.
DOSEMU: ttys lock: (/usr/spool/uucp/LCK .. modem): No such file or dir.

And int10,0 set_video_mode failed

Like I said am new to this stuff!


Best regards

Chuma



Re: Debian 1.2 release date?

1996-09-14 Thread Chris Westwood
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Bob Bagwill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Relationships tend to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids, 
which are essential to the generation of good code.

Wonderful one-liner. I think you should make a sig out of this and
copyright it quick... or *is* it your sig??

:-) Chris





RE: texbin postinst in unstable fails

1996-09-14 Thread Marcelo Magallon
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 texbin fails to configure because version mfbasfnt-1.0-5 is missing the
 file manfnt.mf (a special font for something in Knuth's book). Downgrading to
 mfbasfnt-1.0-3 from buzz-fixed overcomes the problem

I ran into this, too, and the program that complained about this
(Metafont?) started logging errors, which turned into a 72 MB log file...
I wish I had written down the filenames and stuff, but I haven't. :(
I can reproduce it, I think. I just have to configure Babel.

-Marcelo



Re: texbin postinst in unstable fails

1996-09-14 Thread branderh
 
  C'est manfnt.mf. Install mfbasfnt-1.0-3 de buzz-fixed et ca ira. 

On peut installer mfbasfnt-1.0-7 aussi, mais c'est dans Incoming maintenant.
One can also install mfbasfnt-1.0-7, but it is in Incoming right now.

 Merci! Ca marche maintenant.
 
 Translation: Thanks, now it works :-)

Ne rien.
Niets te danken.

Erick



Trouble with xdm

1996-09-14 Thread Marcelo Magallon
Hi,

I have just installed a minimal set of packages in order to run 
X11. Everything works fine: if I use startx I get X up and running (with 
twm as WM... how do I change that? I'd like to have fvwm2 as the 
default WM for all my users), and it works with xinit, too. But if I run 
xdm (from a root shell), it seems to start, but the login console never 
shows up. Any pointers, please?

Thanks,

Marcelo Magallon