Debian really best?
Hi, I have been looking at some Linux sets via ftp, reading these letters, and installed a Debian and a Slackware (obtained via ftp, no applications in either case). Why is Debian better? I'm serious, this is not intended to get everybody all excited. I'm ready to buy a CD set and I want to know the advantages of one distribution over another. If anyone has any sensible comments, I'd really be interested... --Tim -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard mess
Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package! Actually, all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file. People have kept saying this and everyone assumes that the person asking knows how to point Netscape to XKeySymDB. First of all, I tried using dselect to install Netscape. Unfortunately, it insists on having version 3.0-beta4-1 and the only version I could get off of netscape was 3.01-beta1. The 3.0 version of the netscape installer has been in contrib since August 23rd. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Debian GNU/Linux! Search it at http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/simple -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file [ in /usr/bin???
From: David Puryear [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was doing some house cleaning and found a file named [ in /usr/bin. Does any one have any idea what this is? Is there way to find out which package it came from? Here is ls -al: LeBox:/usr/bin :- ls -al [ -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root15633 Mar 9 1996 [ Look at the number of links (the part right after -rwxr-xr-x). You have two links to that inode. Now, do an ls -l /usr/bin/test. Looks identical, huh? See, in the old days, the Bourne shell could only branch and loop based on return values of programs. For example: if grep This is junk $filename then rm $filename fi grep would return a 0 if the string was found (in which case, the if statement would execute the contents of the then part). Otherwise, it would return non-zero. Well, this isn't so good for doing things like comparing two strings or numbers or testing to see if something's a file or a directory or whatever. So, someone wrote a program called test. test would accept an expression and return 0 if the expression was true, and non-zero if it was false. So, you could now do things like: if test $string1 == $string2 then echo They're the same! fi Now, somewhere along Unix's long and illustrious past, some guy figured that it would be easier if he could just get rid of the test and replace it with a simpler notation. So, they figured that encapsulating the expression in square-brackets would be a good idea. To make it so, they re-wrote test so that it ignores any ending ] it sees on its command line and then they linked [ to test. So, now you can just say: if [ $string == $string2 ] then Cute, eh? How do I force fsck next time I reboot? It should be happening anyway. The only difference is that, when you machine is properly shutdown, Linux will flush all of the disk buffers, finish up all disk accesses, and then mark the filesystem as clean. Upon bootup, fsck will bypass clean filesystems because there's no real reason to suspect them of being corrupted. Last time it did, I got 'delete inode ?' or some such. Could some one explain to me what that means. Looks like you've got an unreferenced inode. It's like having a lost cluster chain in MS-DOS. Is there like defrag or like in linux? Don't think so. The Unix filesystems are designed to withstand fragmentation much better than MS-DOS ones do, so you don't really need one like you do in DOS. - Joe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hylafax packages?
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote: On 3 Nov 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote: Somebody a few weeks ago had mentioned that they were preparing hylafax as packages? That was myself. I was almost finished and then I discovered debmake :-) I've spent the past week or so getting to grips with it. The finished packages should be available in a matter of days. You mentioned that one of your hylafax packages conflicts with mgetty - are you working on fixing that? mgetty is THE getty to use - i wouldn't consider using anything else (unless i needed a hacked getty to do something special...hacking agetty is a lot easier than hacking mgetty because it's much smaller) hylafax sounds like it's THE fax program to use. I'd really like to be able to use it, but not if the price was losing mgetty. surely there's some way of making them work together... probably the simplest (but not necessarily the best) solution would be for there to be two mgetty packages - one with sendfax which conflicts with hylafax, and one without which suggests hylafax...would have to be co-ordinated with the mgetty maintainer Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] another similar option would be to split mgetty into two packages, 'mgetty' and 'sendfax'. mgetty could Suggest: sendfax | hylafax yet another option would be to use the 'update-alternatives' script to resolve the conflict...i think you said that it was only one program called sendfax which conflicted. which brings up the quick hack option - rename hylafax's 'sendfax' to 'sendhylafax' or something and make sure the rest of the hylafax suite knows about the change (including the man pages!) Craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
no subject (file transmission)
A few days ago I bought the info magic Cd's (September '96), I have been running slackware (for about half to 2/3's of a year), but I got fed up with it... so I decided to try debian... when I tried to install it went fine, except for when it got to the part about making the modules Under cdrom, there is a cdu31a, that is what type mine is... HOWEVER the program doesn't agree with me on that... it says that it can't initialize it. Any suggestions on how to fix this, because I can't finish installing debian with out access to the cdrom drive... Thanks Fizz -- ) ( /|\ /|\ / | \ \_|_/ / | \ * / | \ (/\|/\) / | \ * |`.__o___\`|'/___o__.'| | '^` \|/ '^` | | Out of order there is Chaos,V See with your heart not with | | and out of chaos there is orderyour eyes for beauty| | lies everywhere | | [EMAIL PROTECTED],_. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]/,-.\ http://www.netrax.net/~fizz | | .//___\\__. | |'(( \\_// `| * \\ `-' * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pine and MIME
Hi all! It seems that PINE likes to reply to a message using the QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding whenever it sees strange characters in the message I'm replying to. Can I prevent this behaviour? I'd like to send out plain ASCII files, without things like =E20=E20. All The Best, Marco GCS d?(-) H+ s g+ p? !au a23 w+ v- C+++ US++ P+++ L++ 3 E- N+ K- !W M !V -po+ Y+ t+ !5 !j R G''' tv- b++ D+ B--- e+ u* h! f r++ n+ y* -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
talking RS232
I have 2 questions. I have looked in manual and info pages but cannot seem to find the answers. 1. Is there a simple program to talk transparently to my RS232 port. (COM 1) for example. I am not putting a modem there. I just want my Debian box to act as an RS232 terminal for another computer. I was looking for something like 'tip' which preferrably could be run under emacs. 2. I have noticed that my xterm converts both '^J' and '^M' into newlines. I am running seyon to solve problem 1. (above) and I need to create both '^J' and '^M' output on the RS232 line. Since seyon uses xterm I can't create them both unless I go into the control menu and change the newline translating in between. Emacs, on the other hand, can distinguish between these two characters. If anyone can help me with either of these problems I would be very grateful. Thanks -- Nathan Salwen (413) 256-6463 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hylafax packages?
It would probably be good to split mgetty into mgetty mgetty-fax mgetty-voice mgetty-doc That does not solve the problem with accepting incoming faxes though. Although hylaxfax does have something to offer in this regard. I have no idea how to integrate that. I have no experience with multi-binary packages. If someone else wants to do it then tell me. Otherwise I have to make debmake multi-binary aware. On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: cas That was myself. I was almost finished and then I discovered debmake cas :-) I've spent the past week or so getting to grips with it. Can you send me a summary of your experiences so I can improve my package? --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- PGP Public Key = FB 9B 31 21 04 1E 3A 33 C7 62 2F C0 CD 81 CA B5 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse : can't locate module char-major-10
Hello All, I am new to Linux and of course new to the Debian distribution. Recently I tried to install X on my box using the vga16 server. When started, the server immediately die with a message Cannot open mouse : (no such device). Because X is a rather complex package, I tried to troubleshoot my mouse problem using gpm. The result was the same as with X, now the message is gpm : /dev/psmouse : No shuch device. Because psmouse is a symbolic link a also tried psaux and because it still didn't work, I even tried /dev/msmouse and /dev/inportbm (in fact this is a non-sense because my mouse is a PS-2 style). The problem is not the mouse hardware, because under Windows95, the same mouse on the same PC work ok. It is discovered as a PS/2 compatible mouse using interrupt 12. The computer is a Gateway 2000 P100. I think they use an Intel Alladin mother-board, but I am not completly sure. The mouse is a Microsoft Mouse Port Compatible 2.0 I had also a look at /proc/devices and I didn't find any mouse device there. Also /proc/interrupts do not show any entry for interrupt 12. Finally I found that every time a started X or gpm, I got an entry in daemon.log : modprobe : can't locate module char-major-10 So it seems that I need to load a module for my mouse. In /usr/lib/module_help/modules I found that modules should exist for psaux and mouse, however I didn't find any psaux.o or mouse.o on my system. Now I am stuck. I only see two possibilities : 1)I really need to load psaux.o and mouse.o; but where can I found those files? 2)The mouse driver is build in the kernel and for some reason the mouse is not detected at boot-up. How can I force the mouse configuration? I have really no idea which of those two possibilities is correct. As I am new to Linux maybe I made a stupid mistake. All the software was loaded from the stable subtree of the distribution. Kernel is 2.0.6. Any help would be appraciated. Thanks, Andre Dewevre Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had the same problem. As far as I know, Debian does not include PS/2 driver as a module, so you'll have to recompile your kenel :(. -- Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life! Can't live with it, can't live without it... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard mess
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Brian C. White wrote: Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package! Actually, all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file. This probably the case for other Motif apps, too. And how can we do this? The netscape package is available under contrib. To use the existing XKeysymDB file, either compile the app with the correct directory or set the env var: csh: setenv XKEYSYMDB /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB bash: set XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB; export XKEYSYMDB This does not work for all applications, particularly those which are not available as source packages but only as compiled binaries. I have solved this problem in the following way: Run xkeycaps with its output redirected to a file called Xmodmap.new. Change the mapping of the BS key to mean 'Backspace' rather than 'Delete' and then write all of the keys out. I then take this Xmodmap.new file and move it to /etc/X11/Xmodmap. This works fine for all the applications I have tried so far but I am not really sure of the potential negative consequences. Cheers Carlo *** *Carlo U. Segre * * Department of Biological, Chemical and Physical Sciences * *Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago, IL 60616 * * Voice: (312) 567-3498 FAX: (312) 567-3494* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg verification
I asked this question sometime ago but I don't think there was an answer. I was wondering is it possible to mimic the RedHat rpm verify command? You know, after installing many packages, and over some period of time, it is nice to check is the files from some earlier package are still there. BG -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clock in error in NTP client env.
Does any know of a reason that the local CPU clock would jump forward 1 hour? We are running as a NTP client and the clocks are in sync with the NTP server. This has run fine for some time. Now, for some unknown reason, the clock jumps forward 1 hour. The NTP server is ok. All the other NTP clients, that sync to the same server, are showing the correct time. So I know that it is not the NTP server that is at fault. When I look at the peerstats file, it shows the clocks in sync, then it the logs show that the time is out of sync by 1 hour. I believe that NTP will not re-sync back to the NTP server because the clocks now differ by more than 10 minutes(sanity checks). This leaves my UNIX machine with the clock running free. I am trying to take over support duties for someone else. I am just beginning to learn UNIX. Any help on the above issue would be great. Thanks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[new version] Cryptographic Filesystem for Debian.
A new version of CFS has been released. You can find it on ftp://hpnz8.ifj.edu.pl/pub/linux/cfs/. Let me know if you can find any problems with it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 11:06:00 -0800 Source: cfs Binary: cfs Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Patrick J. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: cfs- Cryptographic Filesystem Changes: cfs (1.3.3-1) unstable; urgency=low . * Initial Release. Files: 2805b6a268fb4d10c8d58dcf61b5b125 770 optional extra cfs_1.3.3-1.dsc 3dcf3dd0632c28f588b325f522931280 86710 optional extra cfs_1.3.3.orig.tar.gz ca9d056e3d426a38e886723dd6af6342 4339 optional extra cfs_1.3.3-1.diff.gz 7c80f34b16bb576f4f5a370be01c3ce8 174072 optional extra cfs_1.3.3-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2i iQEVAwUBMnOey/VAqxHbZskNAQGTJwf+KyugWZritrLbEU/4YTBDjCAT4fuuXVzD /dZro39P2rvKoCnuwhsTLe34PbB2HbkDxH3n7J6zgVNvQ1agP1J7bOycF42e0GEK OIMOt0K2WYm+rnN0GJJxBHhqkOm+BpvocH6grSO7W8qbZxoFzHLMpdI3DBmsR6K7 H1E8Bw5t1d/ILQfPXhxsXARzyFtQcGO35kVhLBbb3Qq/CAU1pg5Wiok14ZHh3979 zm/7tmCStvWW4oM5ZNRUBGEF9xBG7/louLONYXe0tshqm+iGvppUMncYJBbPhh0U +4e5Jw0tpGOcjesdScpG4o56smyi3Ik5fh5zzLHXalzZfw+ghVsOrw== =o+KF -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- The Governent is not above the law. They cannot withhold information. (Scully, X-Files) ---Patrick J. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.usask.ca/undergrads/pje120/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for my PGP Key Key fingerprint = 9F 45 7D 6E C0 A4 B4 0D 48 C7 14 CA 23 B0 B4 F8 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running Debian
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Neil Walker wrote: Have a look at SVGATextMode it's very good. I got mine of a InfoMagic CD but its on Sunsite, gives you whatever size screen you want for dselect, I usually use 116x36. Its a Debian package too.. :) Doesn't look very good with my video card and monitor, unfortunately.. :( -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
trouble with bootup...
I am having some trouble with my bootup sequence. Specifcally, slattach is getting killed some time between when it gets started and when the login prompt appears. I have tried using nohup, but this has no effect. slattach still gets killed. slattach is getting started. I have put some ps's in various locations and it is there and stays there until the it get's killed somehow during the init process. I have tried putting it in /etc/rc.boot and in /etc/init.d/ using standard formats in each case, but it gets killed both times. This was not a problem a week ago. The only relevant thing that has changed is that sysvinit was upgraded a couple days ago? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Erv Walter ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please Help me Out
Dear Sir, I have downloaded Linux ver. 2.0.0 from ftp site debian.org . I was able to load it successfully, I have loaded first 6 floppies and loaded rest of the operating system by networking. I tried using SVR4 binaries , as they don't work on this system. The error reported is - no such file or directory Files are in the same directory, with 777 permission, path includes '.' and I tried executing files with ./ prefix as well. GCC version is 2.7.2-8 I downloaded iBCS package, but this package doesn't compile properly. x286emul is not being 'made' properly. It finds some unknown references to many variables. These variables are defined and as far as I see are being used properly. Could you please suggest me something, as the compatibility for the binaries to run on both the machines is very important for us. Thanking you in anticipations, Kindly email me at the following address - email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdu31a
Run the module configuration, and add the arguments cdu31_port=0x cdu31a_irq=X Fill in your I/O port address and IRQ as appropriate. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: talking RS232
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Is there a simple program to talk transparently to my RS232 port. I use minicom. It works with or without a modem. 2. I have noticed that my xterm converts both '^J' and '^M' into newlines. For the time being you can use Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or F2 through F6) to get to a character screen. Use Alt-F7 (might be a different function key) to get back to X. Someone will no doubt tell you how to fix X. Thanks Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Networking woes (Detailed Long)
Well, I finally got the p166 up and running, including the 9GB ext2
filesystem I had problems with earlier, thanks to this list.
Now there are still 2 issues that I need to resolve, but there is not as
much urgency this time. The second issue will be in another mailing.
To see the problem, jump to the end of this message. I apoligize for the
length of this, but I felt that all this detail is needed for a
resolution.
My system has 2 network cards, a 3c503/16 and a 3c595 (in 10Mb mode).
The 503 has a network address of 199.233.164.2
The 595 has a network address of 199.233.164.33
I have the netmask set to 255.255.255.224, which should give me 32 hosts
per subnet, including network and broadcast.
The system boots fine. Both cards drivers are modules. There is no append
statement in lilo.conf
Here is what is in /etc/init.d/network:
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=199.233.164.2
NETMASK=255.255.255.224
NETWORK=199.233.164.0
BROADCAST=199.233.164.31
GATEWAY=199.233.164.2
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask 255.255.255.224
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
ifconfig eth1 199.233.164.33 netmask 255.255.255.224 broadcast
199.233.164.63
route add -net 199.233.164.32 netmask 255.255.255.224
All hosts are pingable from any other host, aix, sco, micom remote
terminal server, and win95.
Here is the output of ifconfig:
loLink encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1
RX packets:410 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:410 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:20:AF:49:21:25
inet addr:199.233.164.2 Bcast:199.233.164.31
Mask:255.255.255.224
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:42 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:164 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
Interrupt:5 Base address:0x300 Memory:dc000-de000
eth1 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:24:56:D4:17
inet addr:199.233.164.33 Bcast:199.233.164.63
Mask:255.255.255.224
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:15 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
Interrupt:12 Base address:0x6100
Here is the output of route:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
localnet* 255.255.255.224 U 0 0 2 eth0
199.233.164.32 * 255.255.255.224 U 0 0 3 eth1
localhost * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 2 lo
default * 0.0.0.0 U 1 0 9 eth0
When I am not connected to the internet using ppp (207.86.80.129)
route will hang right after the localnet line. If I am connected to the
net, or if named is not running, route does its job and gets out of the
way. I do replace my default route when ppp comes up.
Question 1
I think that is indicates a dns problem, but why? 199.233.164.33 is a
local address.
Question 2
Why does 199.233.164.32 show up in the route output. I have an
/etc/networks file that looks like:
localnet199.233.164.0
loannet 199.233.164.32
localhost 127.0.0.0
I really expected to see loannet in the route output. This happens any
time, ie if I am connected by ppp or not, named running or not.
The linux box is serving as its own caching dns server.
I appreciate any thoughts you may have,
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Travan Tape Drive Problems
Ok, i need to back up that 9GB disk drive. My system has an Eagle(Exabyte) tape drive. The cartridge has TR3 on it. 95 seems to save files to a tape. I can retension the tape by mt -f/dev/ftape retenstion, but when I try to erase or save something to the tape, I get: mt: /dev/ftape: I/O error The system is a P166, 2ide drives, 1 cdrom, 1 cdr, aha2940, 9GB seagate scsi disk drive, 600MB maxtor scsi drive, #9 video, 4 pci slots and 3 isa. The fdc is an 82077(?) The drive came with a card, but I did not have enough slots for it. Yes, I have read the howto, and looked in the kernel source (2.0.24), and did not see anything relating to GAT in the setup. The bios is award flash bios, dated 8/7/96 (or somewhere close) Everything but the kernel came from The infomagic august 96. Thanks for listen to me ramble, -- Walter L. Preuninger IIwaldo on #unix at irc.wasteland.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://walterp.rapidramp.com L I N U X --- Where you will want to be! -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please Suggets me some solution ..
Dear Sir, I have downloaded Linux ver. 2.0.0 from ftp site debian.org . I was able to load it successfully, I have loaded first 6 floppies and loaded rest of the operating system by networking. I tried using SVR4 binaries , as they don't work on this system. The error reported is - no such file or directory Files are in the same directory, with 777 permission, path includes '.' and I tried executing files with ./ prefix as well. GCC version is 2.7.2-8 I downloaded iBCS package, but this package doesn't compile properly. x286emul is not being 'made' properly. It finds some unknown references to many variables. These variables are defined and as far as I see are being used properly. Could you please suggest me something, as the compatibility for the binaries to run on both the machines is very important for us. Thanking you in anticipations, Kindly email me at the following address - email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clock in error in NTP client env.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( WILLIAM M BURNS) writes: Does any know of a reason that the local CPU clock would jump forward 1 hour? Some CMOS can handle daylight savings for you. You want that to be disabled. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Travan Tape Drive Problems
Walter L. Preuninger II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, i need to back up that 9GB disk drive. My system has an Eagle(Exabyte) tape drive. The cartridge has TR3 on it. 95 seems to save files to a tape. I can retension the tape by mt -f/dev/ftape retenstion, but when I try to erase or save something to the tape, I get: mt: /dev/ftape: I/O error Not all devices support all commands, erase for example. Doing an erase is unnecessary before writing, btw. And when the device doesn't support a command, you get an I/O error. Presumably you're using tar, afio, or cpio to actually write to the tape? Does that also give an error? Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pine and MIME
On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Marco Mariani wrote: Hi all! It seems that PINE likes to reply to a message using the QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding whenever it sees strange characters in the message I'm replying to. Can I prevent this behaviour? I'd like to send out plain ASCII files, without things like =E20=E20. Pine doesn't seem to do this for me. You may have something configured for this. If you can send me your .pinerc file I will try to figure out what's up. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpio WAS: Rearranging partitions
Martin Stromberg writes: The con regarding cp -a is that it's GNU cp. Versions on other systems fuck up symbolic links e. g. I used this very same method to migrate my debian system to a new hard drive and I agree with the above! I had /usr/local/bin setup with symbolic links (for my own private syntax in case I forget to use the pure *nix syntax) and the cp -a destroyed those links. I now have copies of the commands in place of the links. Everything still works ok, so I'm not greatly disturbed by this feature of cp -a. -- -= Sent by Debian Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reading news offline
I have a dial-up connection to my ISP. I want to be able to read the usergroups offline. I have downloaded suck, inn and inews and also trn. After I have read their documentation and also the News-HOWTO, I still do not know how to do it. I can read news with trn and gnus, but only while I am connected to the ISP. I tried out suck. It made contact with the ISP's NNTP-server and did nothing further but complaining about not finding a history-file. When I use the -H (or is -h) option it stopped complaining but still did nothing. How can I download the newsgroups I want to subscribe and read them on my own system in my own time? It was a straight forward thing when I used Windows (even without reading a single bit of documentation). After a few hours of reading and experimenting in Linux, I had no success and I do not even know which road to travel. Thank you for your patience in the past. I trust you will be patient with me this time also. Johann Spies. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tail -f /var/adm/messages
Thank you for your reaction. Heiko wrote: What does the last line before all this in '/var/adm/messages' say? I found the following sequence of lines: - Nov 4 07:55:43 Johann syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Nov 4 09:15:24 Johann syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann syslogd: select: Bad file number Nov 4 09:15:56 Johann last message repeated 20827 times Nov 4 09:16:57 Johann last message repeated 47428 times Nov 4 09:17:58 Johann last message repeated 46865 times --- and I do not know what it means and how to fix it. Can somebody help please? Johann. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pine and MIME
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Marco Mariani wrote: It seems that PINE likes to reply to a message using the QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding whenever it sees strange characters in the message I'm replying to. Can I prevent this behaviour? I'd like to send out plain ASCII files, without things like =E20=E20. Pine doesn't seem to do this for me. You may have something configured for this. If you can send me your .pinerc file I will try to figure out what's up. AFAIK, pine uses the QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding whenever the message itself contains non-ascii characters. And that is good, because it's the standard. You can't send 8-bit (weird) characters over (possible) 7-bit nodes. If that annoys you, simply remove the weird characters before sending the mail and it should be ok. Pine will recognize that there is nothing to encode and leave it as it is. At least my version of pine (3.91) does it without any effort of my part. Heiko - Heiko Selber (Fritz-Haber-Institut Berlin) | Vs lbh pna ernq guvf | http://www.fhi-berlin.mpg.de/~selber | lbh unir jnfgrq lbhe gvzr. | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (un un un) | Phone:+49-30-8413-4574, Fax:+49-30-8413-4686 || -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard mess
Run xkeycaps with its output redirected to a file called Xmodmap.new. Change the mapping of the BS key to mean 'Backspace' rather than 'Delete' and then write all of the keys out. I then take this Xmodmap.new file and move it to /etc/X11/Xmodmap. This works fine for all the applications I have tried so far but I am not really sure of the potential negative consequences. Have you tried emacs (both as its own window and under an xterm)? I know I used to have problems with it because it maps ^H to help (kinda dumb, in my opinion). Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hylafax packages?
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote: I have no experience with multi-binary packages. If someone else wants to do it then tell me. Otherwise I have to make debmake multi-binary aware. Can you send me a summary of your experiences so I can improve my package? Sure, I like debmake :-) For hylafax I need to create 2 packages, hylafax-server and hylafax-client. In your example rules file I've changed the line make install PREFIX=debian/tmp to make install SERVERPREFIX=debian/server CLIENTPREFIX=debian/client and edited the Makefile(s) appropriately. Then later I do dpkg-gencontrol -phylafax-server -Pdebian/server and the same method for the client package. No big problems (the control file has separate sections for hylafax-server and hylafax-client). Dermot -- Dermot BradleyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications Director Tel: +44 1232 572003 Genesis Project Ltd Fax: +44 1232 560553 Belfast Coleraine Desertmartin, N.I. WWW: http://www.gpl.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hylafax packages?
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: You mentioned that one of your hylafax packages conflicts with mgetty - are you working on fixing that? It has been suggested that I use diversions to handle the conflict. Anyone got a example of a diversion? Dermot -- Dermot BradleyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications Director Tel: +44 1232 572003 Genesis Project Ltd Fax: +44 1232 560553 Belfast Coleraine Desertmartin, N.I. WWW: http://www.gpl.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hylafax packages?
What is exactly conflicting? On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote: bradley On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: bradley bradley You mentioned that one of your hylafax packages conflicts with mgetty - are bradley you working on fixing that? bradley bradley It has been suggested that I use diversions to handle the conflict. bradley Anyone got a example of a diversion? --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- PGP Public Key = FB 9B 31 21 04 1E 3A 33 C7 62 2F C0 CD 81 CA B5 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Travan Tape Drive Problems
On 5 Nov 1996, Guy Maor wrote: Walter L. Preuninger II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, i need to back up that 9GB disk drive. My system has an Eagle(Exabyte) tape drive. The cartridge has TR3 on it. 95 seems to save files to a tape. I can retension the tape by mt -f/dev/ftape retenstion, but when I try to erase or save something to the tape, I get: mt: /dev/ftape: I/O error Not all devices support all commands, erase for example. Doing an erase is unnecessary before writing, btw. And when the device doesn't support a command, you get an I/O error. Presumably you're using tar, afio, or cpio to actually write to the tape? Does that also give an error? Yes, I used tar -cvpzf/dev/ftape. /dev/ftape is a symlink to /dev/rft0. I will install taper and try it. The tapedrive is identified in win95 as a QIC3020. -- Walter L. Preuninger IIwaldo on #unix at irc.wasteland.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://walterp.rapidramp.com L I N U X --- Where you will want to be! -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lsof: Can't read kernel namelist from /System.map
You need a correct zSystem.map to go with the kernel.
This is a headache...
What I'm doing to automate the process is changing the kernel Makefile:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cat kernel.makefile
--- Makefile1996/09/14 00:38:40 1.1
+++ Makefile1996/09/14 00:38:56
@@ -177,6 +177,7 @@
$(DRIVERS) \
$(LIBS) -o vmlinux
$(NM) vmlinux | grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$$\)\|\( a \)' | sort
System.map
+ cp System.map System.map.$(VERSION).$(PATCHLEVEL).$(SUBLEVEL).`
cat .version`
symlinks:
rm -f include/asm
making a directory /maps, putting the zSystem file there and running this
script:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; cat /usr/local/bin/install_map
#! /bin/bash
version=$(uname -a | gawk '{ print $3 $4 }' | sed s/#/./)
file=/maps/System.map.$version
if [ -r $file ]; then
cp $file /zSystem.map
echo installing $file as map
else
echo $file does not exist
fi
from rc.local
BTW -- lsof didn't work with 2.1...
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[Solution] NIS slave hosts map problem
Hello all,
the solution to the problem described previously (slave server
unable to transfer the hosts.{byaddr,byname} maps due to a DBM error)
is solved by upgrading ypserv to version 1.1.1 (distributed version is
1.0.4). This version can be found at:
ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/NYS/servers
ftp.uni-paderborn.de/linux/local/yp
http://www-vt.uni-paderborn.de/~kukuk/linux
you need to edit the Makefile, once make config is done, and
apply the following patch so it finds the ypserv.securenets where
Debian keeps it.
--- MakefileTue Nov 5 16:54:07 1996
+++ Makefile.newTue Nov 5 14:46:02 1996
@@ -34,10 +34,10 @@
exec_prefix = ${prefix}
## Remember to modify the ypMakefile if you modify YPBINDIR !
-YPBINDIR= ${exec_prefix}/libexec/yp
+YPBINDIR= /usr/lib/yp
YPMAPDIR= /var/yp
SBINDIR = $(exec_prefix)/sbin
-CONFDIR = ${prefix}/etc
+CONFDIR = /etc
MAN5DIR = $(prefix)/man/man5
MAN8DIR = $(prefix)/man/man8
@@ -46,6 +46,7 @@
## securenets in YPMAPDIR. You must also add
## -DSECURENETS='$(SECURENETS)' to CPPFLAGS.
#SECURENETS = $(YPMAPDIR)/securenets
+SECURENETS = $(CONFDIR)/ypserv.securenets
## How many children of ypserv should be run max. at one time
MAXCHILDREN = 20
@@ -79,7 +80,7 @@
CFLAGS = -O2
CPPFLAGS = -DYPMAPDIR='$(YPMAPDIR)' -DYPBINDIR='$(YPBINDIR)'\
-DCONFDIR='$(CONFDIR)'
-DMAX_CHILDREN=$(MAXCHILDREN)\
- -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=$(XFRBLOCKSIZE)
+ -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=$(XFRBLOCKSIZE)
-DSECURENETS='$(SECURENETS)'
LDFLAGS =
WARNFLAGS = -Wall
I hope this is of help to someone else,
Ciao,
Arrigo
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AAAH!! Diald again!!
I once had diald working on my system, then it crashed. I had a bad HDD and replaced it, and I've got it all working again... Except diald. I know it's a functional program, I had it working before. The PPP options file has everything disabled. Diald is being run like this: diald /dev/ttys1 -m ppp local 192.168.0.50 remote 192.168.0.51 defaultroute modem crtscts connect 'chat -v ATDT### CONNECT ogin: mylogname word: mypassword' dynamic -daemon This is all contained in a file used to start diald when it's needed, since there are times when I'd rather not have it running (it shares a fax line with another system). When it's run, it produces an interesting error: [4781] running pppd [4781] connect script failed [4781] waiting 30 seconds for clear to redial Anybody have any ideas as to how to get rid of this? Like I said, I once had it working, and I really like it when it works. But for now, it's frustrating as all get out. All help greatly appreciated, Tim --- I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be APPROXIMATED! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (Primary email) --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hylafax packages?
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote: What is exactly conflicting? mgetty and hylafax both provide a binary called sendfax in /usr/sbin Dermot -- Dermot BradleyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications Director Tel: +44 1232 572003 Genesis Project Ltd Fax: +44 1232 560553 Belfast Coleraine Desertmartin, N.I. WWW: http://www.gpl.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hylafax packages?
Ok. I will put the fax related files in a separate package mgetty-fax (and the voice part in mgetty-voice). Thus hylafax should conflict with mgetty-fax . On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote: bradley On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote: bradley bradley What is exactly conflicting? bradley bradley mgetty and hylafax both provide a binary called sendfax in /usr/sbin bradley bradley Dermot bradley bradley -- bradley Dermot BradleyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bradley Communications Director Tel: +44 1232 572003 bradley Genesis Project Ltd Fax: +44 1232 560553 bradley Belfast Coleraine Desertmartin, N.I. WWW: http://www.gpl.net/ bradley --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- PGP Public Key = FB 9B 31 21 04 1E 3A 33 C7 62 2F C0 CD 81 CA B5 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Travan Tape Drive Problems
Walter L. Preuninger II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I used tar -cvpzf/dev/ftape. /dev/ftape is a symlink to /dev/rft0. I will install taper and try it. If if I/Os with tar, I doubt it will work with taper. This may seem like a stupid question, but did you recompile your kernel and say yes to QIC-02 tape support and Do you want runtime configuration for QIC-02? And you might want to investigate the program mentioned in the Configure.help to do runtime configuration. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jazz Drives
Is anyone using a 1 gig Jazz drive (lp port model) on Linux? If so, how is it working? Are you able to boot off it from lodlin? Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps What would you do with a brain if you had one? Dorothy, Wizard of Oz ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian really best?
Tim T Walker writes: Tim Why is Debian better? I chose it because of the packaging system and because they said that they try to provide a stable system. In fact, nothing about Debian has ever behaved in an unexpected way for me (except for stuff that I configured myself -- go figure). The packaging system groks dependencies and versions and it can deinstall packages. It's quite thought-out, for example it knows that you need an MTA (mail transport agent) in order to meaningfully install an MUA (mail user agent). Further, it knows that there are different programs providing the same functionality (eg sendmail and smail), so to a mail reader it won't matter if you install sendmail or smail. kai -- I wonder why nobody don't like me, or is it de fact dat I'm ugly? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian really best?
Tim T Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is Debian better? http://www.debian.org/FAQ/debian-faq-2.html#ss2.3 Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please Help me Out
You should not have to compile the ibcs package. If your system has direct access to the Internet, start up dselect as root and select the FTP installation method. Select the FTP site as ftp.debian.org and the distribution as stable. Select the packages you want, and then watch as they are downloaded for you. If you don't have direct Internet access, download the IBCS .deb package and install it with dpkg -i filename . Thanks Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
combining linux partitions
I've recently installed Debian distribution. I really like it, so I'd like to get rid of my old slackware install, and make the Slackware and Debian partition into one. Is there a program out there that would do it. I have Partition Magic, but it refuses to touch Linux partitions... Thanks for the help. Igor -- Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life! Can't live with it, can't live without it... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Virtual host support for smail aliases?
Does smail support virtual hosts for its aliases? For example, would it work to have an aliases file like so: postmaster: root webmaster: jdoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: client1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: client2 If this isn't supported, does anyone know of any mail trasnports that *do* support this? - Joe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pine and MIME
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Heiko R. Selber wrote: It seems that PINE likes to reply to a message using the QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding whenever it sees strange characters in the message I'm replying to. Can I prevent this behaviour? I'd like to send out plain ASCII files, without things like =E20=E20. Pine doesn't seem to do this for me. You may have something configured for this. If you can send me your .pinerc file I will try to figure out what's up. AFAIK, pine uses the QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding whenever the message itself contains non-ascii characters. And that is good, because it's the standard. You can't send 8-bit (weird) characters over (possible) 7-bit nodes. If that annoys you, simply remove the weird characters before sending the mail and it should be ok. Yes, but if somebody sends me a message with an e grave, I could overlook the single character when quoting it, and pine will send the message as quoted printable. QP is ugly for a reader which is not MIME compliant. Is there a way to convert the incoming messages into 7 bit characters? PS: it is a pity that only the DOS version of pine supports colors. All The Best, Marco Wanna have fun? Drop a nuke on Redmond, WA. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
