JDK
Hi, I installed debain 1.1 to my box but i have two problems. First, when i compile the X codes it's waht i see make erreur: ld can not find -lX11 Is anybody can help describe me how i can install JDK in my box. Or if there is a package for it. thanks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Routing Problems
Whenever I try viewing the current routing tables by typing route or netstat -r at the command prompt I only get the standard header - no information. The command just hangs and I must Ctrl-C to get out. I've heard from someone that this occassionally happens to him - but I've never successfully viewed the routing table. I'm pretty sure I've got everything configured correctly - ifconfig shows the expected three interfaces: loopback, ethernet, and serial. Any ideas why? If so, please help! Kevin Traas ValleyNet Hardware/Software Committee ChairAbby: (604) 859-9741 Head System Administrator Chwk: (604) 823-4763 Central/Upper Fraser Valley, BC, Canada Miss: (604) 859-9741 Toll Free Pager: (604) 918-2054 Alternate E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pgp
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Re: Routing Problems
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:00:11 PST Kevin Traas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Whenever I try viewing the current routing tables by typing route or netstat -r at the command prompt I only get the standard header - no information. The command just hangs and I must Ctrl-C to get out. I've heard from someone that this occassionally happens to him - but I've never successfully viewed the routing table. You probably have nameserver problems. Route and netstat try to decode the addresses. Try them with `-n'. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Taylor UUCP uutraf problem
I think this is probably some kind of configuration error with the Taylor UUCP package. WHen I run uutraf it shows all received data accurately but shows all zeros for sent traffic, both news and mail. It shows the number of sent files but does not add up the number of bytes. It also shows the time spent sending but since it shows 0 bytes sent it also shows an average transfer rate of 0 cps. Received traffic works fine. -- George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reading news offline, leafnode and syslog-problems.
Thank you to everyone who responded. One person even sent his config-files for suck and inn. That helped me to get suck going. After experimenting I decided to follow the advice on this list to try out leafnode. It is easy to install and configure and at the moment I use it in combination with tin. I tried out trn, but I prefer tin. I also discovered that inn, after it was purged through dpkg, left some traces in my syslog.conf file that lead to the following messages in my /var/adm/messages file : Nov 3 06:56:31 Johann syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Nov 3 06:56:32 Johann kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Nov 3 06:56:32 Johann syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Nov 3 06:56:32 Johann syslogd: select: Bad file number Nov 3 06:57:03 Johann last message repeated 20605 times Nov 3 06:58:04 Johann last message repeated 35092 times etc. After removing inn's references to news-related files in syslog.conf, my syslogd worked fine. I have great respect for the people in the debian-user's list who are so willing to help and put in some effort to help beginners like me. Thank you very much. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel. Nr. 0331-461310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make-kpkg failed
Hallo, I tried to upgrade from 2.0.24 to 2.0.25. I patched my kernel source, made a make config, make-kpkg clean und finally make-kpkg -r Custom.1 kernel_image The kernel and the modules compiled fine, but then: [ compiling stuff omitted ] make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.25/arch/i386/lib' make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.25' touch stamp-build make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.25' install -d -o root -g root -m 755 image-tmp/DEBIAN could not open display make: *** [stamp-image] Error 1 wotan-e:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.25 I did the same with a freshly ftp'ed kernel source -- same result. What went wrong? Any hints? Thanks in advance! Bye K.-W. Schulte -- O##OO##O O##O O##O ==The famous SchwebebahnAA==suspension==AA===AA===railway===AA Dr. Karl-Wilhelm Schulte AA AA AA AA Bergische Univ.-GH/HRZ ,__AA__AA___AA_AA___. Gaussstr. 20 | || || || |X| |X| || || || | D-42097 Wuppertal | || || || |X| |X| || || || | Tel 0202/4392807,Fax -2910 |_|| ||___|| |X|_|X| ||___|| ||_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | |X X| | | | | `==+=+=+=+X===X+=+=+=+==' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
socket permission problems
G'day. I'm a bit behind, but since I just got Debian 1.1.11 on November's Linux Monthly, I did a bit of an upgrade from it. I've been running some bits of rex as well, but hadn't upgraded everything, so quite a few things got updated from 1.1.11, such as netstd, base etc. Anyway a couple of problems have been observed; rlogin to another host gives rmcd: socket: permission denied Works fine for root. On starting X, I get the grey background, but no windows; I kill it, and it's been trying to connect to a socket and getting connection refused, errno = 13. Again, works fine for root. I'll look though rex now for important stuff which needs upgrading again and see how I go. Anything in particular to get which might cause this? gpm also seems to be broken; it's doing really erratic things when I try to mark stuff. Running kernel 2.1.7, but I was before this upgrade too and I haven't noticed any problems due to it. thanks, hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: socket permission problems
G'day. I'm a bit behind, but since I just got Debian 1.1.11 on November's Linux Monthly, I did a bit of an upgrade from it. rlogin to another host gives rmcd: socket: permission denied Works fine for root. Still unable to place this one. Downgraded base to -13; no change. Downgraded netstd to 2.05-1; no change. I'm sure it's not the kernel, because I've been using 2.1.7 for a couple of weeks with no problems until this upgrade. Upgraded libc5 to 5.4.7-7, was 5.4.7-1; no change. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
another odd problem
Another odd problem; trying to login on virtual consoles 5 and 6 (alt-F5, alt-F6); root login refused, but the terminals are listed in /etc/securetty. Upon logging in there, finger says I am on tty?? ! hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simple way to convert text to g3 files wanted.
I wanted to start employing mgetty's fax spooling features. Unfortunately, it want to convert my text files to g3 files via ghostscript. This wouldn't bother me if it werent for the fact that gs seems to want to bring just about *every* library in the debian catalog along with it. Seems pretty wastefull when all I want to do is convert from text to g3. I figure I can use efax's efix program to do it by modifying some file in /etc/mgetty. Anybody know of any other quick+dirty programs to do the conversion? - Joe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux and SoundBlaster
Hi == I already look at FAQ but I didn't find anything usefull about Linux and SoundBlaster. What I want: To listen to music while I am working. what I did: In the installation procedure I choose the modules for the cdrom and for soundblaster. What I should do: ??? - that it is the question I put to you all. Many thanks in advance. -- At\'e breve === Pedro Quaresma de Almeida Departamento de Matem\'atica Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia Universidade de Coimbra P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] url: http://www.mat.uc.pt/~pedro/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lilo problem after kernel upgrade to 2.0.25
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote: LILO Loading linux Wrong loader, giving up... I've never seen this error before. Rebooting and picking the older kernel from Lilo works okay. You did build a zImage didn't you, I think you'll get this message from LILO if you try to boot a bzImage. Dermot -- PGP key pass phrase forgotten, \ Overload -- core meltdown sequence again :( and I don't care ;) |initiated. / This space is intentionally left | blank, apart from this text ;-) \ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I make xautolock run all the time?
Howdy, I have xautolock and xlock and I am tring to get xautolock to restart after xlock finishes. Should I do this in a shell script or is there a way to deamonize xautolock? TIA -- Signature deleted for lack of anything witty or thoughtful to say Kevin McEnhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Machintosh fanatic and Linux guru in training. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trying to purge getty
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: Not that this is imoportant, but i have installed the mgetty package and wanted to purge the getty package, but I can't because getty is required. What do I need to do to get this to purge? I was hoping mgetty would replace agetty as the default getty. I also thought it would replace the getty(8) man page, but it did not. Any clues here? simple, use mgetty for modem lines and [a]getty for virtual consoles. edit /etc/inittab and change the modem line gettys to mgetty. the latest mgetty package adds some (commented out) sample lines to inittab. also, try 'man mgetty'. craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
Just curious: Are there still advantages to the Debian package management system over the RPM system? I originally went with Debian because of the better package system (and because I like the idea of Debian). I know someone that is thinking of getting Redhat 4.0. I told him my reason for using Debian (though I believe that Redhat is a good product), but I wonder if my reason is still true. By extension, if `.rpm' becomes superior to `.deb', will Debian switch? Thanks for any comments. -- Kevin K. Lewis | My opinions may be unreasonable [EMAIL PROTECTED] | but such is the voice of inspiration -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XF86 3.1.2 Memory hunger
[Sorry, this is a repost, but the mail manager here went sick precisely at the moment where answers could have come.] I noticed my X server (XFree86 3.1.2) started getting larger and larger (was 21Mb fat, with over 7Mb resident before I killed it). X grows faster the more fat windows I have (netscape, vrweb-mesa, ghostview...) which is maybe normal, but it sometimes doesn't shrink when I quit fat applications. I needed to kill and restart xdm (logging off was not enough...) to get it back to a decent 5Mb/3Mb, but it grows again quite fast... (9Mb/6.5Mb right now, will I be able to finish this message???). I noticed this since I switched to 16 bytes per pixel mode, which my video card can amply accomodate. Questions: 1) Is this normal doctor? I remember reading about such problems on this list, but the October archives are unavailable... The XF86 page makes no comment about 3.2 solving this type of problems. 2) More generally, what influences the memory size of X? Is switching from 8-16 bpp a large factor? How about Fvwm? I noticed that xterminals with 4Mb RAM could accomodate an X server with HP-Vue or MWM, but not Fvwm. Could fvwm somehow steal memory from X, in order to stay small itself? 3) Maybe this all is not unrelated with certain anomalies I noticed lately: I for instance found out that my cron process died, but have no clues how this happened. Maybe it was just out of memory? Any clues appreciated! Amities, Jean Orloff + + + + + + + + ++ +Tel:(33)50.09.16.75 Fax:(33)50.09.94.95 http://lapphp0.in2p3.fr/~orloff/ + + + + + + + + + ++ Meanwhile in Europe, the enlightenment was a reasonable time. Voltare invented electricity and also wrote a book called Candy. Gravity was invented by Issac Walton. It is chiefly noticeable in the Autumn, when the apples are flaling off the trees. (From Student Bloopers in History, collected by Richard Lederer) + + + + + + + + ++ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
Just curious: Are there still advantages to the Debian package management system over the RPM system? I originally went with Debian because of the better package system (and because I like the idea of Debian). I know someone that is thinking of getting Redhat 4.0. I told him my reason for using Debian (though I believe that Redhat is a good product), but I wonder if my reason is still true. By extension, if `.rpm' becomes superior to `.deb', will Debian switch? Hmmm - isn't it true that there's work at the moment towards giving Debian the ability to use RedHat packages? -- Mark -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to download in the background?
Boris D Beletsky writes: lawrence, You wrote: Lawrence Is it possible to download something, say Lawrence http://xxx.xxx.xxx/abc.zip in the background? For example, I Lawrence can run ncftp, get a file, press CTRL-Z, type bg, then I can Lawrence logout and ncftp still downloading the file for me. Is there Lawrence an equivalent command for downloading from http? Boris `ncftp ftp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/abc.gzip ` Boris will do it This does ftp but not http. kai -- I wonder why nobody don't like me, or is it de fact dat I'm ugly? -- Harry Belafonte -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS problems
Okay. I've followed all the directions. My server IS exporting its filesystems. I've tried building the 2.0.6 kernel with NFS explicitly enabled and as a module. In the module case, 'make modules' never does anything. In the explicit case, NFS is still not enabled in the kernel. What is the secret here? --- D. Phillips MIME Welcome [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP public key available http://www.seanet.com/~imminent/dfp -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86 3.1.2 Memory hunger
Jean Orloff wrote: I noticed my X server (XFree86 3.1.2) started getting larger and larger (was 21Mb fat, with over 7Mb resident before I killed it). X grows faster the more fat windows I have (netscape, vrweb-mesa, ghostview...) which is maybe normal, but it sometimes doesn't shrink when I quit fat applications. I needed I noticed the same thing awhile ago. I thought it was the 24 vitual desktops that I have in fvwm2 (seriously). Then I thought it was related to doing a restart fvwm2 after tweaking my menus. X would regularly climb up to 18MB. I was just about to buy more memory when I upgraded to the latest libc 5.4.7. Now, with the same config it hasn't gone above 10MB yet, but I haven't done any serious testing. I do recall reading somewhere that a benefit of the newest libc is that it can now give freed memory back to the system. I'm guessing that I'm seeing this feature. -- ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: socket permission problems
Hi, rlogin to another host gives rmcd: socket: permission denied Works fine for root. On starting X, I get the grey background, but no windows; I kill it, and it's been trying to connect to a socket and getting connection refused, errno = 13. Again, works fine for root. is /usr/bin/rlogin and /usr/bin/X11/X SUID root? Greetings Bernd -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Mark Carroll wrote: Hmmm - isn't it true that there's work at the moment towards giving Debian the ability to use RedHat packages? And what about the rumour that both packaging systems are going to be merged in a common one sometime in the future? I've sporadically read about this in various Linux newsgroups this year but have never heard any substantially informative in this regard. Any information handy someone? Curious, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux and SoundBlaster
To make your soundblaster card work, you must compile your kernel with sound support. You need to know your base address (e.g. 220), your low and high DMA channels (e.g. 1,5), your IRQ (e.g. 7), and possibly your MIDI channel (e.g. 330). Run the config program of your choice: Either use the debian package files (I don't do this), or do a 'make config' in /usr/src/linux and answer yes for sound support. Answer all the questions and compile a kernel image. Hopefully your sound card will work. For just playing CD's, you don't necessarily need to do all this if your CDROM is already recognized. In that case, the program 'workbone' will play CD's for you. One problem may be the default volume level of your sound card. I recommend that you do compile a kernel for your card, and then get some kind of sound mixer program to allow you to adjust the various settings. Hope this helps a bit. Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Pedro Quaresma wrote: Hi == I already look at FAQ but I didn't find anything usefull about Linux and SoundBlaster. What I want: To listen to music while I am working. what I did: In the installation procedure I choose the modules for the cdrom and for soundblaster. What I should do: ??? - that it is the question I put to you all. Many thanks in advance. -- At\'e breve === Pedro Quaresma de Almeida Departamento de Matem\'atica Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia Universidade de Coimbra P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] url: http://www.mat.uc.pt/~pedro/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86 3.1.2 Memory hunger
Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do recall reading somewhere that a benefit of the newest libc is that it can now give freed memory back to the system. I'm guessing that I'm seeing this feature. Yes, that is true. Big long-runnning apps (like X) will use less memory with libc5.4. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pgp
[ Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. ] Lord Of The CLUTZ's: -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Version: 2.6.3i owGNlM2LHFUQwHc1ytIgeMrFSzkKMxN6u53RUXfA7Lq6moU1WZldgzBk5k33m+63 To sign e-mail by hand, you should save the text into a file, say foo, and then run PGP with the -sta options: $ pgp -sta foo You need a pass phrase to unlock your RSA secret key. Key for user ID: Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024-bit key, key ID 4CBA92D1, created 1995/09/26 Enter pass phrase: Clear signature file: foo.asc $ Then insert foo.asc as the body of you mail. A better way is to use a mailer that understands PGP. I don't know how well elm can do that. I use exmh myself. exmh is excellent. -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgpViZNdFBwxe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
Excerpts from mail: 12-Nov-96 Is `.deb' still better than.. by Kevin K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just curious: Are there still advantages to the Debian package management system over the RPM system? If I understand this correctly, RedHat put it's RPM software under a non-GPL copyright, and source is unavailable. The .deb software is completely GPL, one more reason why Debian is the official GNU FSF Linux :) Speaking of the FSF, is any work being done on making a Debian GNU Hurd distribution? Is it expected in the future? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
Rafael Kitover writes: Excerpts from mail: 12-Nov-96 Is `.deb' still better than.. by Kevin K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just curious: Are there still advantages to the Debian package management system over the RPM system? If I understand this correctly, RedHat put it's RPM software under a non-GPL copyright, and source is unavailable. The .deb software is completely GPL, one more reason why Debian is the official GNU FSF Linux :) RPM is GPLed. From their web site (http://www.redhat.com/news/rhl4.0.html): License Terms Red Hat Linux is distributed under the terms of the GPL, and is freely available from our FTP site, and dozens of mirrors. For the first time, the Red Hat Linux User's Guide is also available freely, under the terms of the LDP license! I believe RPM has always been the case. -- Kevin K. Lewis | My opinions may be unreasonable [EMAIL PROTECTED] | but such is the voice of inspiration -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installation problem
I have a pentium 200 with 2 IDE hard disks 2.0MB and 1.2 MB. I have partitioned them already using FIPS and FDISK. I tried to install debian and got the following error message while booting PPA: unable to initialize controller at 0X378 , error 2 After this when I started partitioning the disk with cfdisk through the root menu I got the following message Fatal error: Cannot seek on disk drive. Enter to exit fdisk I tried running cfdisk from the shell with the -c -h and -s options but got the same problem. Any help is welcome .. Mandar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
From: Mark Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just curious: Are there still advantages to the Debian package management system over the RPM system? Several. We support pre-dependencies, which make upgrades a good deal more foolproof, as well as regular dependencies. Debian packages are easier to build (especially now with debmake, it's practically automatic). We have automatic conversion of Red Hat and Slackware packages to Debian packages. By extension, if `.rpm' becomes superior to `.deb', will Debian switch? I think the Debian packaging back-end (dpkg) is _finished_ software. It could have some small changes made to it, but it does what we need it to do. The _front_end_ (dselect) is the part that should be compared to other distributions, and the part that needs improvement. Hmmm - isn't it true that there's work at the moment towards giving Debian the ability to use RedHat packages? It works now. Download the latest debmake package and run man alien. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
From: Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] And what about the rumour that both packaging systems are going to be merged in a common one sometime in the future? Now that we have a Red Hat to Debian package converter, we can mark that task done. I think that both Red Hat and Debian are working on making their systems work better in general a lot more than they are working on the package system. Eventually, one package format or the other will dominate the Linux market. It hardly matters which one it is, as long as it's free software. I'm writing to Red Hat today about our policy manual. Maybe we can come to some sort of merge on that. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
Thanks to all those who responded (I posted the original question). Bruce Perens writes: [...] Several. We support pre-dependencies, which make upgrades a good deal more foolproof, as well as regular dependencies. Debian packages are easier to build (especially now with debmake, it's practically automatic). We have automatic conversion of Red Hat and Slackware packages to Debian packages. This answers my question. Thanks. [...] I think the Debian packaging back-end (dpkg) is _finished_ software. It could have some small changes made to it, but it does what we need it to do. The _front_end_ (dselect) is the part that should be compared to other distributions, and the part that needs improvement. A la GLINT, I suppose, though I've never seen it. I think it would be fun to work on something like this. Maybe Debian could just use GLINT and massage the backend (and add stuff for the additional Debian package features). Hmmm - isn't it true that there's work at the moment towards giving Debian the ability to use RedHat packages? It works now. Download the latest debmake package and run man alien. I need to do this. Time time time where does it go. Thanks again for the discussion. -- Kevin K. Lewis | My opinions may be unreasonable [EMAIL PROTECTED] | but such is the voice of inspiration -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JDK
kazem wrote: Is anybody can help describe me how i can install JDK in my box. Or if there is a package for it. As far as I know there is no Debian package. You can download the Linux port from http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html. The site points to installation instructions. It installs in the /usr/local tree so it won't conflict with any Debian stuff. Evan. -- Evan Thomas Department of Anatomy Cell Biology University of Melbourne Parkville, 3052 ph: 9344-5849 fax: 9347-5219 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JDK
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Evan Thomas wrote: Is anybody can help describe me how i can install JDK in my box. Or if there is a package for it. As far as I know there is no Debian package. You can download the Linux port from http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html. The site points to installation instructions. It installs in the /usr/local tree so it won't conflict with any Debian stuff. Actually there is a deb package for it. If I remember correctly it's at ftp.debian.org in the non-free directory. /- /\oo/\ Debian ! /\oo/\ \ | | The more clocks you have ... | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | . the less sure you are | | http://www.connect.ab.ca/~vithar | of what time it is ! | \--/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tail -f /var/adm/messages
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Johann Spies wrote: I found the following sequence of lines: - Nov 4 07:55:43 Johann syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Nov 4 09:15:24 Johann syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann syslogd: select: Bad file number Nov 4 09:15:56 Johann last message repeated 20827 times Nov 4 09:16:57 Johann last message repeated 47428 times Nov 4 09:17:58 Johann last message repeated 46865 times --- and I do not know what it means and how to fix it. Can somebody help please? I bet it's slowing down your system a lot. It happened to me when I deleted INN: syslog was looking for /var/log/news, and the directory had been deleted. Making /var/log/news again solved the problem. Look into /etc/syslog.conf to see what's the matter. All The Best, Marco C:\NGRTLTNS.W95 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DOSEmulator for linux
I was just wondering if any of you out there had installed this on your linux boxes. I downloaded version 0.64 today, however I ran into a number of problems in installing it, so I wanted to get some of your opinions on it. I received the following message when I tried to make or compile it as root: make[1]: Entering directory '/root/dosemu/dosemu-0.64.0/src' Starting DOSEMU VERSION.64 compile... -- Various anouncements not related to the compile. Compile Begins make[1]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/Makefile', needed by 'include/kversion.h'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory '/root/dosemu/dosemu-0.64.0/src' Make: *** [default] Error 2 That's it...no matter what I do, I can't get it to compile *shrug* If anyone could offer some advice or suggestions, I would appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Jeff Hanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
