RE: PPP-connection slowing down. Please help!
On 16-Nov-96 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I use the Linux box, my ppp-connection is becoming so slow that I have
difficulty in handling a few email messages. I cannot think of ftp or other
internet services.
Ping produces the following results (only while using Linux. On winsock
{windows 3.1} the average is about 232ms with no packet loss):
PING ilink.nis.za (196.6.121.10): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 196.6.121.10: icmp_seq=0 ttl=252 time=246.0 ms
64 bytes from 196.6.121.10: icmp_seq=1 ttl=252 time=562.2 ms
64 bytes from 196.6.121.10: icmp_seq=2 ttl=252 time=378.8 ms
64 bytes from 196.6.121.10: icmp_seq=3 ttl=252 time=240.4 ms
64 bytes from 196.6.121.10: icmp_seq=4 ttl=252 time=1009.5 ms
...
64 bytes from 196.6.121.10: icmp_seq=15 ttl=252 time=5592.6 ms
...
64 bytes from 196.6.121.10: icmp_seq=31 ttl=252 time=11225.2 ms
--- ilink.nis.za ping statistics ---
43 packets transmitted, 32 packets received, 25% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 240.4/5948.1/11441.9 ms
Sometimes the packet loss go up to 60%
I used the same configuration for a few weeks now, but it was only the last
few days this behaviour became a nuisance.
Can it be the telephone line? Why does it work without problems on Windows 3.1
?
Any hints?
Johann Spies
I had exactly the same problems as you describe.
In my case the problem was two tty ports using the same IRQ, of some reason
Windows ignores this while Linux systems acts as you describes above.
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X is painful? Maybe V will help!
Hi All! The December '96 issue of Linux Journal (pp. 31-33) has an interesting article entitled V - A Free C++ GUI Framework for X by Dr. Bruce E. Wampler. Maybe this will be of help with some of the problems outlined in this thread? It is GPLed software. Looks pretty interesting. Wampler has a web page with details: http://www.cs.unm.edu/~wampler/vgui/vgui.html Dennis Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. - Popular Mechanics, 1949 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kerneld and pppd and ip masquerading
Hi John, You wrote: John John Adam Heath writes: I setup /sbin/request-route to run pppd... John John Where can I find documentation on request-route? I never heard John of it before this, and now I find that I have it. /usr/doc/modules/README.ppp-slip borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JDK and JDK
Why didn't you use the available netscape and jdk packages? Just pick up jdk-static, jdk-common, and netscape from non-free and try again. That's what I did and it works beautifully! -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with Send PGP Key in the subject to get my PGP key. Visit http://www.onekey.com for OneKey: The Smart Search Engine! pgpt2p8961m4B.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OFF TOPIC]Re: X is painful
Is there a debian-talk list? This is surely a candidate. Bill So far the 'differences' have primarily been comprised of Bill just plain crappy UI. Some apps let you double-click to Bill select a word, some don't. Some let you triple-click to Bill select a paragraph, some don't. Some tab between fields, Bill some don't. Some have point to focus within individual Bill fields [tkman comes to mind], some don't. During editing, Bill some are bright enough to realize the user likely doesn't Bill want to lose focus on the field until they take some action Bill to end editing (ie; partial modality), most are not. It seems that the real problem is that the whole world doesn't agree with you. If everybody would just listen to you, we wouldn't have this problem, right? I'd rather be able to configure this behavior on a case by case basis. If there were a set of UI behaviors identified in this manner that could be offered as a set of configurable options, with perhaps some canned default option sets, I'd go for it. Outside of that, I don't think this is as big an issue as you're making it. Maybe I'm just not that uptight. Bill As well, now that OpenStep is being distributed by Sun [as Bill well as NeXT] and the GnuStep project is progressing nicely, Bill it will hopefully make inroads into more of the academic and Bill scientific computing centers. Just as long as it stays out of the Real World. We have a couple of Next boxes here and I can't think of a goofier, uglier GUI. I'm not a GUI programmer, so maybe its a neato devel platform, but 99.99% of people using computers aren't writing GUIs. Bill Regardless, whether or not OpenStep actually survives Bill through the end of this century, any developer who is Bill working on generic user interface coding projects-- such as Bill a window manager or process manager-- who has studied and Bill understood what NeXT has achieved is wasting their time. Again, I'm not a developer, but NeXT seems to have achieved virtual bankrupcy. Where's the lesson there? You know I've had plenty of great ideas too. The problem is that most of them sucked. Sort of like the NeXT interface. Bill NEXTSTEP/OpenStep is likely the single best example of Bill object oriented programming on a large scale in the Bill industry. The APIs are clean. The various frameworks work Bill together transparently. Portability is *not* an issue Bill [except when importing/exporting data]. Nothing touches it. Bill Period. Great. Another computer environment JUST for programmers. Bill So far, all signs indicate that software deployed within the Bill X community has made the same mistakes over and over Thats no reason to panic start thinking that NeXT step is the answer! I don't pretend to know the Right Thing to do, but I sure don't wish NeXT on anyone. The best thing I can think of doing in a GUI is offering the user the ability to configure it. Thats a whole lot more attainable than building THE GUI to beat all GUIs an forcing it on everyone. Just my $.02 Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan -- *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
last date for frozen upload (was: Re: bo, rex?)
Hi Brian, You wrote: Brian Rex has been frozen so only bug fixes are going there. It Brian should be released as stable in a couple weeks. Bo is the new Brian unstable tree. Can smbd tell me the exact date that is a limit for bug fux upload into frozen? My hard disk blew up and it will take some time to fix it. thks borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WinNT OS loader
From my experiences beta-testing NT 4.0 (That was before I discovered how buggy Micro$oft betas are! :-), I discovered that you can just put lilo on /dev/hda and make an entry for NT booting off of /dev/hda1 and Linux booting off of /dev/whatever. NT is just as happy because it doesn't know its being loaded from another boot-loader. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with Send PGP Key in the subject to get my PGP key. Visit http://www.onekey.com for OneKey: The Smart Search Engine! pgpXhAS0LOZWO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't seem to replace sendmail with smail.
Do this: 1. Backup all config files for sendmail(usually only /etc/sendmail.cf) 2. With the smail deb file in the current directory, type: 'dpkg -r -force-depends sendmail; dpkg -purge -force-depends sendmail; dpkg -i smail deb file here; -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with Send PGP Key in the subject to get my PGP key. Visit http://www.onekey.com for OneKey: The Smart Search Engine! pgpZ0tVQ8tbzz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-source-2.0.23_0.deb corrupted
That is a known bug in kernel-source-2.0.23. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with Send PGP Key in the subject to get my PGP key. Visit http://www.onekey.com for OneKey: The Smart Search Engine! pgpJAiT23AbBZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dbackup
Just because dbackup is in experimental doesn't mean that it is unsupported, it just means that it is untested. Kind of like beta, or alpha code. I use dupload in experimental all of the time, and it isn't unsupported. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with Send PGP Key in the subject to get my PGP key. Visit http://www.onekey.com for OneKey: The Smart Search Engine! pgpGsAWXctoqe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kerneld and pppd and /sbin/request-route
Just make a batch file with a ping command in it and call the file 'startinet.bat' Just ping your providers domain. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with Send PGP Key in the subject to get my PGP key. Visit http://www.onekey.com for OneKey: The Smart Search Engine! pgpon1G18JG5H.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X11 bashing
Larry == Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry Martin Konold writes: - In contrast to motif Qt is fully C++ OO. Larry Buzzword bingo. Just because it's written in C++ doesn't Larry mean it's better. - Qt comes with source. Larry My mistake. I was under the impression that Qt was Larry binary-only. Sorry. But the source distribution is a sham, Larry since you can not distribute modified copies of Qt. All Larry you can do with said source is submit patches to them, Larry which become part of Qt, and are subject to the same Larry restrictions. So basically, with the source you have the Larry right to work for TT without them paying you. I'm curious. Is anyone using V++? When I begin learning C++, I think that V++ is the toolkit I will look into first. It uses Athena 3d widgets; which could be extended and improved, from what I gather. I like how Athena widgets, under GWM, can be moved around by the static parts of the interface, allowing frameless windows. When I'm ready to; when I learn more scheme/lisp, I want to make a tabnotebook frame type for windows under GWM++. -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.teleport.com/~karlheg (K0D) AYG-GE01 Portland, OR, USA :) Proudly running Linux 2.0.25 transname and Debian GNU public software! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T130 driver for win95
How does a guy find a driver for A Trantor SCSI T130 controller card for Win95. Regards Dave Fulton -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptop and PCMCIA
I'm trying slowy to get my whole office over to Debian g, and the next machine I'm going to tackle is the TI-Extensa 560CD laptop. Is there a page/FAQ for Debian on laptops? Also I'm using a Xircom Creditcard Ethernet/28.8 pcmcia card, has anyone had any experience with this card? I'd love for it to be recognized just after boot time so I could dftp the whole system. TIA, mike... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crack and cops
On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:04:52 EST Joe Feenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Pardon my ignorance but what exactly are crak and cops? Crack: password cracker. Cops: security checker. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rdist as root?
Dirk Luetjens writes:
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- How can I invoke a rdist command as root to distribute the /usr/local/
- tree to the other computers in the network?
First, make a file distfile, which will look something like:
=
MACHINES = ( machine-a machine-b machine-c )
FILES= ( /usr/local )
${FILES} - ${MACHINES};
install ;
==
Save it as, say, /etc/distfile, and then just rdist -f /etc/distfile
HTH
-Larry
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Re: Strange behavior of lpr+lpd
[ Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. ] Karl M. Hegbloom: With XEmacs and ViewMail, the problem becomes obvious! I've enclosed a uuencoded screenshot to demonstrate: It is _not_ a good idea to post 140 kilobytes to a public mailing list. Please put it on a web or ftp site instead, and post just the URL. Or offer to send it to people who want it. -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgpGoOoxlMXFI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dselect docs for beginners
Bruce asked me to come up with something to help those new to dselect when they come to install 1.2 . Are you serious? You want _me_ to document dselect? Not being an expert might be an asset. The users have my installation manual to get them up to the login prompt, and then nothing. Something _short_ to get them started with dselect would be nice. An explanation of the installation methods and the package selection screen would make most people a good deal more comfortable. This could be appended to my installation instructions so that people would have a good chance of reading it when installing Debian for the first time. I have therefore produced a document and have placed a copy on ftp://oak.scotch.wa.edu.au/pub/dselect.beginner.2.gz in the hope that others will make some constructive suggestions via email. I expect it to go through version 3,4,5... so get the latest. That site has narrow bandwidth so if possible avoid the times 04:00 - 06:00 GMT. Lindsay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T130 driver for win95
From: Arthur D. Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] How does a guy find a driver for A Trantor SCSI T130 controller card for Win95. This isn't really the right place to ask, but try www.microsoft.com . I know that NT comes with the Trantor driver. If you want to run Linux (which is what we do on this list), the Trantor driver comes with the Linux kernel. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: syslog daemon is dying
Look in /etc/syslog.conf, and make sure all of the log files mentioned in that file, and their _directories_, actually exist. I hear stories of this happening when removing some package, because the log file and its directory disappears, and syslogd gets into a loop trying to open the log file. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T130 driver for win95
Arthur D. Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does a guy find a driver for A Trantor SCSI T130 controller card for Win95. By posting to unrelated mailing lists of course!! Just in case the mailing list idea doesn't pan out, try standing outside your front door and shouting your request at the top of your lungs. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: last date for frozen upload (was: Re: bo, rex?)
November 27, I think. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFF TOPIC]Re: X is painful
From: Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not a GUI programmer, so maybe its a neato devel platform, but 99.99% of people using computers aren't writing GUIs. Yes, it was wonderful to develop for. Again, I'm not a developer, but NeXT seems to have achieved virtual bankrupcy. I agree that Steve seems to spend a lot more time at Pixar these days. However the real problem with the NeXT interface was that it was too far ahead of its time - for example, it ran a PostScript renderer on a 68030 to operate the GUI, and that was a good lot of load for a 68030. Memory also cost 10 times more than it does now, so none of those systems had enough of it. They also had to license the renderer from Adobe for big bucks, or they would have been able to give the software away (which is what everyone else does when they want something to catch on in the market). The interface wasn't so bad, it's just that the computer wasn't up to running it. Hopefully GNUstep will catch on. I hope we can straighten out the compiler issues and have good GNUstep support on Debian. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Invitation for testers of frozen distribution
Our various FTP sites carry three distributions these days: stable: Debian 1.1 frozen: Debian 1.2 pre-release unstable: Debian 1.3 development It's time for those of you who would like to help test Debian 1.2 to install packages from frozen. We haven't yet uploaded the boot floppies for a cold install of 1.2, so this is for people who are upgrading from 1.1 . If you can run the ftp method of dselect (install dpkg-ftp if you don't have the ftp method), set the distributions to frozen non-free contrib and it will perform your upgrade for you. Please file bug reports on any problems you find. Our WWW site http://www.debian.org/ has information on how to compose a bug report. If you have installed the debmake package, you can simply invoke bug from the command line and it will help you file your report. There are still known problems (see the bug list on our FTP site), so this is for people who won't perish if they install a buggy package that takes down their system. As always, make backups. Thanks Bruce Perens Debian Project Leader -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard disk recommendation
On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Paul Christenson wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Lawrence Chim wrote: In an attempt to avoid a war, I'll simply say that Silicon Graphics is using IBM SCSI drives exclusively. Given the nature of their products, I I am afraid you're wrong. I saw Seagate drives (in older stations) and, more recently, Quantum drives in High Impacts. ---MAV (finger for PGP signature block) My opinions are my own and only my own. Standard disclaimer applies. Marc A. Volovic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Linguists do it cunningly -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: syslog daemon is dying
As of last Thursday I have been encountering problems with the syslog daemon. I have posted to various newsgroups but have not received any answer so far. After booting the system, the syslog daemon seems to be dying. Whenever I reboot the system the messages will state starting /sbin/syslogd starting /sbin/klogd and will assign a process id in the syslog.pid and klog.pid files but if you do a ps -aux, only /sbin/klogd shows up. I'm stumped as to what is happening here. I have tried reinstalling the sysklogd package, but that doesn't have any affect. I would appreciate any help or suggestions. I have much the same problem. I'm running a stock Debian 1.1.13 system (with the new procps and modules from 1.1.14, because the kernel-source package is corrupted). I *can* get both daemons running eventually but I have to ./etc/init.d/sysklogd restart; ps -ax | grep syslogd; ps -ax | grep klogd (as root, of course) repeatedly until both of them come up. They seem to take turns dying off until finally they stay alive. I cannot for the life of me figure this out. I have tried reinstalling the sysklogd package. Someone help, please! -- Sex without love is an empty experience. | G. Branden Robinson But as empty experiences go, it's one of | Fortune Plango Vulnera the best.| Purdue University -- Woody Allen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: syslog daemon is dying
Look in /etc/syslog.conf, and make sure all of the log files mentioned in that file, and their _directories_, actually exist. I hear stories of this happening when removing some package, because the log file and its directory disappears, and syslogd gets into a loop trying to open the log file. I have a similar problem (but I can eventually get syslogd and klogd to both come up by ./etc/init.d/sysklogd restart over and over again). I did a test -e for every file mentioned in /etc/syslog.conf and got a 0 status every time? Does anyone have any other suggestions? -- Sex without love is an empty experience. | G. Branden Robinson But as empty experiences go, it's one of | Fortune Plango Vulnera the best.| Purdue University -- Woody Allen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Invitation for testers of frozen distribution
Is the 2GB partition install problem solved yet? Our various FTP sites carry three distributions these days: stable: Debian 1.1 frozen: Debian 1.2 pre-release unstable: Debian 1.3 development It's time for those of you who would like to help test Debian 1.2 to install packages from frozen. We haven't yet uploaded the boot floppies for a cold install of 1.2, so this is for people who are upgrading from 1.1 . If you can run the ftp method of dselect (install dpkg-ftp if you don't have the ftp method), set the distributions to frozen non-free contrib and it will perform your upgrade for you. Please file bug reports on any problems you find. Our WWW site http://www.debian.org/ has information on how to compose a bug report. If you have installed the debmake package, you can simply invoke bug from the command line and it will help you file your report. There are still known problems (see the bug list on our FTP site), so this is for people who won't perish if they install a buggy package that takes down their system. As always, make backups. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 bashing
Personally having looked at Qt and KDE I am waiting to see what comes out of the Hyperion project. For those who haven't heard of it, it is a multi platform development system written at the NCSA as is going to be used in the latest version of Xmosaic among other things. It is similar in design to Qt but I suspect will have a better licencing agreement. The big downside with it is that it isn't finished yet but such is life. Joe. I don't think it's going to be free. I'll copy a message from off of the Hyperion project users mailing list. Cheers, - Jim I'm not sure one way or the other but I consider that it may be worth taking a look at it when it gets here. But since it will likely be a while it's hard to say. Joe. --- Forwarded Message From: Scott Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Copyright Questions To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Users) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:05:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Let me try to say this without stepping on anyone's feet...especially my own or anyone's at NCSA. ;) I believe (think, don't really know for sure, but almost do) Mosaic 3.0 will be released as your standard free-type software stuff. I'm not for sure, but it looks like it will. Now, X Mosaic will be slightly different. The libraries being developed along-side the main source modules will more than likely reside under the no commercial usage--you gotta license it kind of license, but general public access to them etc. This is a gray area right now as we haven't gotten far enough along to really worry about it. It is quite possible that we will be lifting the libraries out of the Mosaic project and into another...thus the reason for the seperate licensing stuff. Note that I did say possible...that's because the future projects have yet to be approved. In other words...it's really to early to even worry/speculate about it. NCSA has always made public service code a part of its mission and will continue to do so. Scott P.S. In the words of American McGee (iD Software), Everything I've just said could be a complete lie. ... and in my own, Yeah, what he said. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott W. Powers, NCSA X Mosaic Project Lead and NCSA HTTPd Project Lead, National Center for Supercomputing Applications, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign a href=http://shire.ncsa.uiuc.edu/;Cyber Doors!/a --- End of Forwarded Message -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAM 64M ?
Hi everyone, I'm running Linux (2.0.24 SMP) on a computer (PPro 180 MHz x 2) with 128M of RAM. But, it seems that only 64M of RAM are detected by Linux (I used free to look at that). If someone knows a solution to this problem, I am very interested... Thanks in advance Pierre -- Pierre FERRUIT[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- | CRAL Observatoire de Lyon | Phone : (33) 4 78 86 83 84 | | 9, Avenue Charles André | (33) 4 78 86 83 83 | | 69563 Saint-Genis-Laval CEDEX | | | FRANCE| Fax : (33) 4 78 86 83 86 | --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Invitation for testers of frozen distribution
I hope the boot floppies for a cold install will be uploaded soon. I was just about to install Debian tonight, but I guess I'll have to wait a little. I finally got my new computer last friday and have a nice big partition reserved for Debian. Are there any special testing requests for those who don't upgrade but install from scratch? I would like to also know if there is anything special that I should check during the install. Bruce Perens wrote: There are still known problems (see the bug list on our FTP site), so Where exactly is this bug list? I checked ftp.debian.org but did not find it. -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * http://www.cs.tut.fi/~hessu/ Tampere, Finland -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need a special boot disk?
Hi all, I have an old 386DX40 with 8MB and a CyCDROM 520ie. I've looked at the CDROM-Howto and it appears that I've to use the aztcd driver to make the CD work. So, when installing Debian 1.1, I need a special kernel onto the boot disk or it's enough to reply at boot linux aztcd=0x170? If yes, which one? I need to pass also infos about my sound card (an OPTi 82C929 based one, known as MAD16-SoundStorm) to make the CD driver work properly (it's hooked to the SoundCard IDE port)? Thanks in advance. Alberto Brizio e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
What would be the minimum number of packages to install in order to get a 3C589C-combo pcmcia-card up and running for further down-loading and installation. Karsten Bolding -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Invitation for testers of frozen distribution
Vatiainen Heikki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are still known problems (see the bug list on our FTP site), so Where exactly is this bug list? I checked ftp.debian.org but did not find it. Oops. Bruce meant the web site. http://www.debian.org/ Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oleo - Any docs?
I've used a few spreadsheets in my time, but the Oleo docs do not give me enough info to use the program. Anyone know of any user-friendly Oleo docs, or maybe an easier to use X spreadsheet program? Ed -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAM 64M ?
On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Pierre Ferruit wrote: I'm running Linux (2.0.24 SMP) on a computer (PPro 180 MHz x 2) with 128M of RAM. But, it seems that only 64M of RAM are detected by Linux (I used free to look at that). Use 'append=mem=128M' in /etc/lilo.conf Some BIOSes can't tell the OS that there is more than 64Mb installed, and Linux don't do any probing, so you have to tell it how much memory you have. Juan Cespedes -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rdist as root?
Larry Daffner writes:
Dirk Luetjens writes:
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- How can I invoke a rdist command as root to distribute the /usr/local/
- tree to the other computers in the network?
First, make a file distfile, which will look something like:
=
MACHINES = ( machine-a machine-b machine-c )
FILES= ( /usr/local )
${FILES} - ${MACHINES};
install ;
==
Save it as, say, /etc/distfile, and then just rdist -f /etc/distfile
I forgot to say that the problem is when rdist trys to login into a
remote machine using rsh. This is denied for root. The solution was to
have a .rhosts file in the root's homedirectory.
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Re: Oleo - Any docs?
On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Ed Down wrote: I've used a few spreadsheets in my time, but the Oleo docs do not give me enough info to use the program. Anyone know of any user-friendly Oleo docs, or maybe an easier to use X spreadsheet program? Ed -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I have no pointer to oleo doc's; I also dont't use oloe because of the lack of documentation; but perhaps you should give xspread a try. It's based on the terminal driven sc spreadsheet and has IMHO sufficient docs. Regards Rolf -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mgetty
Hi, I'm having some trouble getting mgetty to work in the inittab file, if i do mgetty 38400 ttyS1 it works fine but i have to manually reset it everytime a user calls. What line do i need to add to my inittab for it to automatically do it for me as i keep getting it wrong. Thanks, Chris. Fingers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windows NTFS 4 Partitions
Does anybody know if its possible to mount a Windows NT NTFS 4 partition on your Linux drive, baring in mind its on the same machine so i can't use samba. Chris. Fingers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie Question
Hi all, I have a very basic questions that I feel pretty silly asking but here goes I have just installed the Debian Linux system on a 386 machine for experimental purposes and have transferred and installed the gnuchess.deb package (I used dpkg --install gnuchess.deb because I am still trying to figure out what dselect does and how it works) . Now how do I run the darn thing. I have found the following files in the /usr/games directory: gnuchess gnuchessc gnuchessn gnuchessr gnuchessx What are all of these files and what do I do with them (Do I have to build an executable?). Obviously I come from a wintel background and am expecting a .exe file but there isn't one here (or is there?). The attributes show them to be -rwxr-xr-x (whatever that means) Is this typical with other packages? For example, I have also downloaded the ppp.deb package and installed it but where in the world did it put the executable files so that I can run it. (I am still trying to get the PPP to work so that I don't have to download from my Windows 95 machine and transfer everything over via diskette (very painful and slow and not feasible for the bigger packages). Pardon my ignorance and thanks in advance, Wayne Richardson Advanced Software Engineer 3M Corp. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JDK and JDK
Why didn't you use the available netscape and jdk packages? Just pick up jdk-static, jdk-common, and netscape from non-free and try again. That's what I did and it works beautifully! Netscape is actually in contrib. If you're using the new libc5 and want to use Java, you'll have to wait for v3.01 to make it out of the Incoming directory. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAM 64M ?
I'm running Linux (2.0.24 SMP) on a computer (PPro 180 MHz x 2) with
128M of RAM. But, it seems that only 64M of RAM are detected by Linux (I
used free to look at that).
If someone knows a solution to this problem, I am very interested...
Add MEM=128M to the lilo command line.
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Got unusable memory address 0x400cd008 (and libtermcap)
Would there be in simple reason, why the binary works in RedHat, but not in
Debian ?
From the strace of running my program:
oldselect(5, [3 4], [], NULL, {0, 0}) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address)
gettimeofday({848498578, 216602}, NULL) = 0
oldselect(5, [3 4], [], NULL, {0, 0}) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address)
gettimeofday({848498578, 222522}, NULL) = 0
mmap(0, 258048, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x400cd000
brk(0x813b000) = 0x813b000
brk(0x8119000) = 0x8119000
close(3)= 0
close(7)= 0
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) ---
wait4(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], WNOHANG, NULL) = 3958
wait4(-1, 0xb7a4, WNOHANG, NULL)= 0
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
close(4)= 0
close(9)= 0
write(2, Got unusable memory address 0x40..., 39Got unusable memory address
0x400cd008
) = 39
_exit(1)
End of strace.
I would guess, this has something to do with different ELF-binaries, but
anyone really knowing or guessing ?
An other thing, the libtermcap (which the program unfortunatelly depends), has
no libtermcap.so file, only those two files /lib/libtermcap.so.2 and
/lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8 installed by termcap-compat.
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It's just zeros and ones, it cannot be hard
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Re: Dselect docs for beginners
I've read your document, and though I'm obviously no good at figuring out whether it'll be any good for beginners I've attached my one detailed comment about it. Thanks for your work ! Ian. In s.2, Select: I suggest installing little more than a bare minimum at this point as you will have ample opportunity of adding more later. Also make sure that you do not select really large things like emacs or the kernel source. Keep it simple. [IS IT RIGHT TO SUGGEST GOING WITH THE DEFAULTS?] I don't know whether it's really necessary to advise people not to select any large packages at this stage. Everything ought to work reasonably well if they just select what they want. The defaults are supposed to be good and useful, and going with them is almost always at least safe (if not optimal). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Floppy management?
However, the problem is that if you eject a disk before unmounting it, sometimes you get a nice frightening kernel panic error (even when being careful enough to wait for the floppy light to go off). On one occasion, putting the disk back in didn't help, and I had to reboot! Paul The last time i've seen this was when i was running the 1.2.13 kernel Paul and with installation of Debian-1.1.6 with the most current kernel these Paul problems have virtually vanished. I confess this worrisome experience is rather old. Well, I had it once more recently, but I cannot swear it was after I upgraded to 2.0 kernel I was also surpised that Linux was not that much better than DO$ for the multitasking of floppy formatting: the system stops responding, and if you then eject the disk... Paul Are you sure you're running Linux? ;-) Even with older 1.2.13 kernels i Paul always had this multitasking working when formatting or copying Paul floppies. Maybe you got some broken hardware! Well, again this is probably fixed by now, if you say things improved in this respect. What I had was only occasionnaly a long freeze, but I always could completely garble my X screen by quickly switching between windows, or switchiung between pulled-down emacs menus (not the most robust piece of X programming, I guess). This was during either a fdformat or mformat, I don't remember. But it is true that now under kernel 2.0, it seems to have disappeared. Good! One worry less! Concerning mtools (3.0.3), mdir fails to read the fat of most floppies I receive, presumably it cannot read vfat filesystem: ~/$ mdir Bad FAT for drive A, trying secondary copy Could not read FAT for A Cannot initialize 'A:' This is why I stopped using it. If I format using mformat, then I can mdir, etc... I suppose this is just msdos filesystem then. Anyway, since my biggest worries about the use of floppies are apparently outdated, what about my little worries. 1) How to prevent a user to prematurely eject a disk before sync is over? Mounting with the sync option is not enough: that's the way I do it, and still the fd light goes off before the file is truly written to disk (and umount or sync gets it on again). 2) Is there a way to detect this and gracefully recover? 3) Is there any way to force a disk change when an application accesses /floppy? To the user, this is not quite transparent, as the error message gives no clue about which application is blocking. I'm just asking because I need to set up an idiot proof access to /floppy. The current situation is nearly idiot proof in that idiots will hardly manage to use (format, read, write) floppies anyway... Ah, and consider myself as idiot in chief: last time I tried to format a floppy on a Win95 machine, I ended up bruising the Ctrl-Alt-Del key a few times: this is the only thing that responds when you start wondering what this bloody machine is doing to your disk after half an hour... Amities, Jean Orloff + + + + + + + + ++ +Tel:(33)50.09.16.75 Fax:(33)50.09.94.95 http://lapphp0.in2p3.fr/~orloff/ + + + + + + + + + ++ In a Belgrade hotel elevator: To move the cabin, push button for wishing floor. If the cabin should enter more persons, each one should press a number of wishing floor. Driving is then going alphabetically by national order. + + + + + + + + ++ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAM 64M ?
On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Pierre Ferruit wrote: Hi there, I'm running Linux (2.0.24 SMP) on a computer (PPro 180 MHz x 2) with 128M of RAM. But, it seems that only 64M of RAM are detected by Linux (I used free to look at that). If someone knows a solution to this problem, I am very interested... I run the same (2xPpro 200/128MB) Just add append=mem=128M to your /etc/lilo.conf Yours, martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cfengine?
This is a reply from Mark Burgess (esteemed author of cfengine) regarding your question on cfengine... Brian White wrote: This message was posted to the debian-user list. I thought you would be interested. I must admit, I've been a little lax in keeping the version of cfengine that is available under Debian up to date with your releases. He'll be running version 1.3.8. - In cfengine all machines belong to several classes, e.g mail_server = ( tango ) mail_client = ( samba rumba ) home_server = ( samba ) .. In a cfengine-file one can use these classes to perfom any action. But when I want to perform the e.g. the following action copy: mail_server:: do something mail_client:: do something home_server:: do something the script doesn't perform the last entry for home_server on samba, because the host samba already belongs to the class mail_client and a action for this host is already performed. Isn't there a possibility to test for all classes if the hosts belongs to it or not? Dirk -- Mark Burgess (author of cfengine) replies: Hei. I think you have misunderstood. Cfengine will perform all the actions for defined classes. If it is not doing so, I would guess that there is some kind of misunderstanding going on. You could try to follow the voluminous output from the -d2 flag which gives debugging info, or -v for verbose to see whether all the classes you think are defined really are. Otherwise, I would definitely upgrade to 1.3.16 (Brian!) It has some nice new features and a few bug fixes, which might just help... good luck! BTW: there are now two cfengine newsgroups whcih have finally started working: gnu.cfengine.help gnu.cfengine.bug best regards, Mark -- Since Debian is going through a code freeze for its next release, I decided to leave the last version I had used without problem. I will release the latest version of cfengine in the next week or two. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spam on debian-user
If you don't like reading spam on debian-user, please write to Mr. Jerry Gilels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell him so. Please be polite but firm, and don't do anything illegal. Please quote the message from his customer l-e-n.com so that he knows what you are talking about. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dselect docs for beginners
Bruce asked me to come up with something to help those new to dselect when they come to install 1.2 . Are you serious? You want _me_ to document dselect? Not being an expert might be an asset. The users have my installation manual to get them up to the login prompt, and then nothing. Something _short_ to get them started with dselect would be nice. An explanation As someone who is new (compared to most) to unix and Linux, I think a quick blurb to take someone past the login prompt is a great idea. Maybe the doc mentioned above will end up on a mirror?, so I can point all the newbies I run into, to it? I alway suggest Debian now. When I was looking into which distribution to install, many people pointed me to Slack, or Redhat, citing ease of installation. And ya, I guess, both were pretty easy to install, but so was Debian. In fact, with regards to getting things operational, Debian, was much easier. :-) It would have been nice, to have seen, type dselect to decide which packages you'd like to install, since I hadn't ever heard of dselect. I just assumed that debian had a counterpart to Slacks setup, and went out and found it, and more, in dselect. What made me come to Debian, and stay? The development team. As soon as I was aware of what was going on behind the distributions, I switched, joined these email groups and couldn't be happier. Thank you ladies and gentlemen, for the opportunity to learn from your experiences. Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libc
Hi, I've installed the stable debian 1.1 release and noticed that my libc is defaulting to libc.so.4.6.27 Is there any reason why it's not using a later libc? Are there bugs with libc versions 4.6 (either 5.x or 4.7)? I have another system running 4.7.x and it seems fine. Should I upgrade libraries, and if so, what's the recommended method in Debian to do so? Thanks, Ricardo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
csh * expantion problem
Under csh (not a link to tcsh), when I do a echo *, I get the following error: echo: No match. It work on other OSs. Thanks, Neal -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netscape and locale?
Dirk Luetjens wrote: Hello I get an interesting error when using netscape in combination with the wg15-locale package and LANG set to de_DE. Does anybody has an idea, how to solve this, without losing the support for the german language? If you don't need (as I think) the language support inside of Netscape, try do reset the locale variables inside the wrapper you probably use to run Netscape. Something like: #!/bin/sh LANG= LD_PRELOAD=libgnumalloc.so.5 \ exec /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape $@ (this is needed if you use libc 5.4, otherways eliminate the LD_PRELOAD) Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
weird network perl problem
I seem to be having a really strange problem, although I'm sure it's something obvious. I was writing a simple program to verify if POP mailuser accounts exist on a server. When I specify the localhost as the server to connect to, everything works fine. However, if I specify a remote server I can't connect. I took a network trace and the TCP SYN packets being sent have a bad TCP checksum. I figured I must be doing something wrong in my code so I downloaded the pop-perl5 program from CPAN. It has the same problem! I can telnet from this system to another POP server (on port 110) just fine. All other network activity works fine. I tried the pop perl program on another similarly setup system with the same results. My configuration (for both systems) is: mostly up to date debian 1.1 Linux kernel 2.021 perl 5.003 I assume this problem must be with my perl setup. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Al Youngwerth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emacs and tcsh
In emacs-19.31, with in emacs shell, the ^Ms show up. In csh they don't. However, in csh the '*' didn't expand. Is there a fix? Is there a good TERM type for emacs shell, so things like passwds don't show up? Thanks, Neal -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Laptop and PCMCIA
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 19 November, 1996 22:15 PM To:Debian Users mailling list Subject: Laptop and PCMCIA I'm trying slowy to get my whole office over to Debian g, and the next machine I'm going to tackle is the TI-Extensa 560CD laptop. Is there a page/FAQ for Debian on laptops? Also I'm using a Xircom Creditcard Ethernet/28.8 pcmcia card, has anyone had any experience with this card? I'd love for it to be recognized just after boot time so I could dftp the whole system. TIA, mike... Sure it will recognize the Xircom just fine, give you its name, and declare that it is an unsupported card! I found a nice surplus Thomas Conrad (now a Compaq subsidiary) card that reports itself as an IBM (!) PCMCIA ethernet card, and it works just fine. See also http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ for lots of good stuff! Ciao! DaveW -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
