Re: Virtual Terminals Greater Than tty8.

1996-11-28 Thread Adam Heath

 I just did mknod to create tty9 through tty12.  Everything seems to be
 working fine, but I thought I would just check to make sure those vt's
 weren't disabled for a reason.
 
 Thanks
 Paul
 
 
You can even go to tty24!

To switch, hit LEFT ALT-(F1 - F12) for the first 12, RIGHT ALT-(F1-F12)
for the upper 12.  I have two dos sessions started automatically on
tty23 and tty24 for a DOS based BBS telnet.


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Re: DEFRAG for ext2fs

1996-11-28 Thread Bruce Perens
It is out-of-date and perhaps somewhat dangerous to your filesystem.
You also don't need it. ext2fs tends to keep your disk blocks in order.
It's not nearly as bad as the FAT filesystem in this respect.

The best way to defragement any filesystem is to back it up, make a fresh
filesystem, and restore it.

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Re: DOS -- Linux

1996-11-28 Thread Bruce Perens
But will Lantastic use the TCP/IP transport, or only NETBEUI?

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(dpkg-ftp) Re: dftp and some problems

1996-11-28 Thread Andy Guy
Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 I tried to connect and then choose ftp from the dselect access menu but
I couldn't get the pppd to connect right. as far as I can see everything
is exactly the same (Except lots of stuff that should be in /usr/bin and
/usr/sbin is in /bin and /sbin instead.. pppd and chat are in /usr/sbin
though)
 
 If you are using dselect, then you mean dpkg-ftp as opposed to dftp
 which is a self-contained program.
  

pppd and chat should be in /usr/sbin.  They are on my system.  It is
very unlikely a downloaded package that has been corrupted will not
then be rejected by dpkg-ftp. And for the corruption to just move a
few files around - even more improbable.

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dpkg problems

1996-11-28 Thread Fundamental
off and on i get this error with dpkg

Selecting previously deselected package mailagent.
(Reading database ... 9676 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mailagent (from mailagent-3.44-6.deb) ...
Setting up mailagent ...
dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: No such file or d
irectory
dpkg: error processing mailagent (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mailagent   

any comments, ideas?

Sahua,

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mail

1996-11-28 Thread Fundamental
im looking for the debian equivalent of the solaris command line mail
command.  Does debian have a package for this?

Sahua,

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Re: qmail compatible MUA

1996-11-28 Thread Ron Holt
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 Hi,
 I am looking at using qmail as a replacement for smail/sendmail.
 I am using now on a sun workstation for testing, and it seems to work fine.
 My question is does anyone know of a reader that can access the maildir files 
 (that
 is the qmail-preferred way of storing mail)? Right now I must use mailfile 
 format
 for the MUA's that I have.
 Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 Charlie

I believe this topic is covered in the file named INSTALL.mbox in the qmail
source.  Setting

MAIL=$HOME/Mailbox; export MAIL

does the trick for me (I'm using elm, BTW).

Ron

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Re: DOS -- Linux

1996-11-28 Thread Shaya Potter
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Matthew Hewitt wrote:

 
 I am running Debian 1.1.  I want to use it as a file server for MSDOS
 6.22. I was wondering what can I use to facilitate this. I know that I can
 use WFWG to connect to the samba server but is there such a thing for
 MSDOS?  I want to be able to boot off a floppy and have the Linux exported
 directory structure come up as c: . Basically make a Diskless(will sort
 of) dos station. Anyone hear of anything like this? Or is there a PC-NFS
 or equievelent in the shareware/freeware domain. 
 

Microsoft at one time made a program that essentialy gave you WfWg 
networking to a dos only machine.  However, I haven't seen it anywhere 
for a least a year.

Happy hunting,

Shaya
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Re: Virtual Terminals Greater Than tty8.

1996-11-28 Thread Philippe Troin

On Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:01:15 EST Adam Heath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
g) wrote:

 
  I just did mknod to create tty9 through tty12.  Everything seems to be
  working fine, but I thought I would just check to make sure those vt's
  weren't disabled for a reason.
  
 You can even go to tty24!
 
 To switch, hit LEFT ALT-(F1 - F12) for the first 12, RIGHT ALT-(F1-F12)
 for the upper 12.  I have two dos sessions started automatically on
 tty23 and tty24 for a DOS based BBS telnet.

I've even go further: you can go up to 64 !!!
To switch, use ALT-right arrow and ALT-left-arrow.
No more direct access for ttys 24.
:-)

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Re: dpkg problems

1996-11-28 Thread mike
On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote:

 off and on i get this error with dpkg
 
 Selecting previously deselected package mailagent.
 (Reading database ... 9676 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking mailagent (from mailagent-3.44-6.deb) ...
 Setting up mailagent ...
 dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: No such file 
 or d
 irectory
 dpkg: error processing mailagent (--install):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  mailagent   

I just installed Debian on my laptop at work and found this
problem.  I've never seen it on the other machines here, but it appears
that some package-install sripts look for perl to be in /bin/perl which it
isn't.  Link /usr/bin/perl to /bin/perl, and re-configure those packages
or re-install them.

mike...


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Re: (dpkg-ftp) Re: dftp and some problems

1996-11-28 Thread Muralynd
On 27 Nov 1996, Andy Guy wrote:

 pppd and chat should be in /usr/sbin.  They are on my system.  It is
 very unlikely a downloaded package that has been corrupted will not
 then be rejected by dpkg-ftp. And for the corruption to just move a
 few files around - even more improbable.
 
 Andy.

 pppd and chat are in /usr/sbin on my system as well. A downloaded 
package didn't move anything and the only corruption was from my 
filesystem overflowing.

 I moved /usr over to another disk and now I only have to use dselect 
with the ftp access mode to snag the files I want to install.

 It's sadly slow though on this 28.8 link, wish I had a CD-Rom :(

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date and time

1996-11-28 Thread Fundamental
my debian time is wrong:)

The time in my cmos is correct, but the time that debian displays is
incorrect, like really wrong.  Whenever i manually set the date on it works
fine untill the next time the machine is rebooted, then it goes all screwy
again.

is there anyway to set the debian time and date to teh CMOS ?

thanks

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Re: date and time

1996-11-28 Thread Graeme Stewart
 michael == Fundamental  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

michael my debian time is wrong:) The time in my cmos is correct,
michael but the time that debian displays is incorrect

After doing a `date -s Now' to get the system time right, use `clock -w' 
or `clock -wu' to set the CMOS clock. (The `u' option applies if you run
a Universal Time clock.)

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Question on updating X

1996-11-28 Thread David Puryear
Hi all,

Can I use same XFConfig script in x-3.2 that I used in x-3.1??
If any, what do I need to change/add? If you want to see my script, just
ask.

The reason I ask this is I have none standard system and it took me a
while to make everything work.:) So I would rather just use same script
if I could. 

BTW. What happen to ../unstable and ../bo where x-3.2 used to be???

Thanks,
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adduser shadowed

1996-11-28 Thread Fundamental
Is there available, or likely to be availiable, an adduser package that can
handle shadow on debian?

thanks.

Sahua,

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Re: please use V

1996-11-28 Thread Tom Julien
Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[Removed debian-devel from the Cc: list as this is beyond Debian
policy.]

Followed Bruce's distribution list, but thank you for the info.

Have you looked at the Aladdin Ghostscript Free Public License?  Peter
Deutsch has thought a lot about these issues.  Why did the Qt people
not use his approach?

Yes indeed.  Unfortunately, it doesn't really help steer folks
from propietary environments to open-standards-based ones either.
Additionally, gs is already ported to the M$ environment, and
the previous version usually gets released under the GPL a year
later.


Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's difficult enough to promote freeware in industry with
 the common lack of support misperception.  Combine this

I'd suggest that rather than fixing that with wierd licenses, you
just do better marketing.  Works for us :-)

Very good point, and Cygnus certainly has done a good job of
it.  The problem is that it becomes increasingly tough to
market the excellent freeware tools and open standards of
Unix when clients have more and more of these same tools
available to them under NT.  Price and performance figures
carry far less weight without the leverage of tools/apps.
As a result, it's difficult for me to understand why we
continue to donate s/w to environments like M$.  In a sense,
we perpetuate the beast, and don't offer the enticing
migration path to Unix that we could be.


Just my 0.05 yen worth.  Have a nice holiday.


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Re: Mailing lists back up

1996-11-28 Thread Tan Wee Yeh
Bruce Wrote:
 
 The $1000 charge for advertising (it's not really a fine) is a donation to
 Debian's still-in-formation corporation, Software in the Public Interest. 
 I doubt I'll be collecting it any time soon, it's mostly a strategy to put
 off spammers.
 
I love and support this scheme :)

It will do well in keeping the list clean of spammers.
Maybe it should be extended to things like those
get-rich-fast pyramid schemes.

One thing though, this list is relatively free of spammers.
*maybe I've not been around long enough or is it the people
who subscribe to the list*



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Re: Mailing lists back up

1996-11-28 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tan Wee Yeh)
[the $1000 charge for advertising]
 I love and support this scheme :)

 Maybe it should be extended to things like those
 get-rich-fast pyramid schemes.

What? They're not spammers? I do consider it spam, and advertising, and
chargable.

 One thing though, this list is relatively free of spammers.

Because I go after every one. I've also called up the spamware suppliers
and have asked them to filter out the debian.org domain.

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Re: Mailing lists back up

1996-11-28 Thread Tan Wee Yeh
Bruce Wrote:
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tan Wee Yeh)
 [the $1000 charge for advertising]
  I love and support this scheme :)
 
  Maybe it should be extended to things like those
  get-rich-fast pyramid schemes.
 
 What? They're not spammers? I do consider it spam, and advertising, and
 chargable.

Oops.. guess I missed that they are adverts too..
good fine them!! :)
 
  One thing though, this list is relatively free of spammers.
 
 Because I go after every one. I've also called up the spamware suppliers
 and have asked them to filter out the debian.org domain.
 
Good work... 

If only all newsgroups/mailing-list are managed by people
like you...


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date and time

1996-11-28 Thread Christian Lynbech
The workaround I have been using is to start up windows95 and set the
clock and date there. Then it remembers. I guess that DOS and windows 3
has equivalent options.

But I would also like to know how to do it from within linux.

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Re: Question on updating X

1996-11-28 Thread Guy Maor
David Puryear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can I use same XFConfig script in x-3.2 that I used in x-3.1??

Yes.

 BTW. What happen to ../unstable and ../bo where x-3.2 used to be???

They're still there.  unstable is a symlink to bo, btw.


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Re: adduser shadowed

1996-11-28 Thread Andrew Y Ng
i don't understand y ppl need the adduser script to add user...
the procedure is so simple. :)

/ayn


On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote:

 Is there available, or likely to be availiable, an adduser package that can
 handle shadow on debian?
 
 thanks.
 
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Re: package sizes

1996-11-28 Thread Antony F Ware
Thanks to those who have taken the time to reply to my
earlier query (included below). My situation is that I 
am downloading onto a non-linux (and so (?) no dpkg) 
system, and from there (with some effort) on to my linux
box. I would like to be able to browse the ftp site and
find out how big a package is going to be once it is installed
*before* having to download it.
I definitely know how to find out how big the .deb file is, as 
is stated in the Packages files. But I'd like the same sort of 
information as is available in the contrib.Packages file.
I appreciate that those with massive hard
drives may not be so interested, so if there is no easier way
than using the ftp option then so be it...

Cheers,

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Re: package sizes

1996-11-28 Thread Antony F Ware
Whoops, I didn't include my earlier message. But the gist of it was
in my new one, and so it probably wouldn't have been good netiquette
anyway...

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Re: Netscape - bus error

1996-11-28 Thread Pedro Quaresma
Brian
=

Thank you for your suggestion, it seems a very good one. I will try it
in the evening (at home).

Netscape is unable to allocate colors for its display.  Try doing
netscape -ncols 64 and see if the unable to obtain erros go
away.  If not, try numbers smaller than 64 or close some applications
that are using lots of colors.  If the bus error goes away, you should
report this as a bug to Netscape (see how to give feedback under the
help menu).

P.S. how can I acess the help menu if I can not acess Netscape? 8-).

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Re: package sizes

1996-11-28 Thread Guy Maor
Antony F Ware [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 box. I would like to be able to browse the ftp site and
 find out how big a package is going to be once it is installed
 *before* having to download it.

Just download the Packages file for each distribution.  The installed
size is the 'Size' field.  The size of the .deb you can get from the
ls-lR.gz in the root directory.


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system accounting

1996-11-28 Thread Richard Morin
Sorry if this is a re-post, but I don't think my orig. message got 
through.

I am interested in learning how ISP's log user time on the system.  Is 
it simply a matter of cron scripts utilizing wtmp and ac?  Or is 
there a nice package which does that and more?
TIA
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Re: package sizes

1996-11-28 Thread Antony F Ware
Guy (and similarly Stephen Pitts) writes
 
 Just download the Packages file for each distribution.  The installed
 size is the 'Size' field.  The size of the .deb you can get from the
 ls-lR.gz in the root directory.
 

Thanks for replying. But if that is so, why does the contrib/ version
of the Packages file contain both a 'Size' field and an 'installed-size'
field for most of the packages?

Cheers,

Tony.


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Debian for AXP?

1996-11-28 Thread Martin Budsj|
How complete is the Dec Alpha dist? Last i took a peek it looked quite
uncomplete but i may have been looking in the wrong place...


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Re: Virtual Terminals Greater Than tty8.

1996-11-28 Thread ugs


On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Adam Heath wrote:

 
  I just did mknod to create tty9 through tty12.  Everything seems to be
  working fine, but I thought I would just check to make sure those vt's
  weren't disabled for a reason.
  

 You can even go to tty24!
 
 To switch, hit LEFT ALT-(F1 - F12) for the first 12, RIGHT ALT-(F1-F12)
 for the upper 12.  I have two dos sessions started automatically on
 tty23 and tty24 for a DOS based BBS telnet.

I've always wondered what the right alt was for.

Thanks
Paul


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Re: package sizes

1996-11-28 Thread Guy Maor
Actually I was totally wrong before.  The Size field gives the size of
the actual .deb file (in bytes).  The Installed-Size field gives the
amount of disk space required to install the package (in kbytes).  See
the dpkg Programmer's Manual 4.2.11 and 4.2.20 for more details.

Because the Installed-Size field was introduced with the new source
packaging scheme, only packages released in the last 3-4 months have
it.  Only a few of the packages in stable are newer than that.


Guy


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Re: Debian for AXP?

1996-11-28 Thread Guy Maor
Martin Budsj| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How complete is the Dec Alpha dist? Last i took a peek it looked quite
 uncomplete but i may have been looking in the wrong place...

It's totally incomplete.  A few developers just bought Alphas, so
it'll get rolling pretty soon.  The Sparc distribution is also just
getting started right now.

It'll probably be another 3 to 6 months before distributions for all
four architectures (alpha, i386, m68k, sparc) are complete and can
bootstrap themselves.


Guy


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Laptop mouse support

1996-11-28 Thread David Miller
Since recompiling my kernel (2.0.23) I have been unable to get my mouse to 
work with Linux.  I have a Winbook XP5 laptop and previously I had it 
working using the psaux device but not I keep getting /dev/mouse: Device 
or resource busy.  Does anyone have any clues that might help me out?


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XFree86 3.2??

1996-11-28 Thread H C Lai
Does anyone know where I can get the latest XFree86 3.2 package for
Debian?? I saw someone mentioned here a short time ago. I couldn't
find it in Debian's ftp site (www.debian.org/FTP). I need it to get my
ATI card to work.

Thanks a lot

H.C.


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libbsd.so.1.0.0

1996-11-28 Thread Stephen Fuqua
postgres95 needs libbsd.so.1.0.0 to run.  This has already been
reported as a bug.  Where can one get a copy of libbsd.so.1.0.0?
It doesn't seem to be a part of rex or bo according to their
Contents files.


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Re: Laptop mouse support

1996-11-28 Thread Graeme Stewart
Some ideas:

Did you recompile the kernel with support for the psaux device? 

If you compiled it as a module is the module loaded?
(`lsmod' to find out - you should see psaux, and probably misc too.)
If you're using the kerneld module loader have you done a `depmod -a'
to sort out the module dependencies?

Is /dev/mouse pointing to /dev/psaux?

Hope that helps,
Graeme

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Re: XFree86 3.2??

1996-11-28 Thread Graeme Stewart
XFree 3.2 is in the new unstable tree: /pub/debian/bo/binary-i386/x11

I recently upgraded to 3.2 and it hasn't crashed on me yet :)

Graeme

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Re: innd mmap

1996-11-28 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Craig Sanders, you wrote:
 
 Is this still true for linux?
 
 is it a kernel or a libc problem?
 
 Has inn for debian been compiled with MMAP turned off?  If not, should
 this be reported as a bug against inn? 

Hmm.. I run a non-debian version of inn, aqnd it works fine with mmap.

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Re: DOS -- Linux

1996-11-28 Thread Carl Greco
According to Shaya Potter:
 
 On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Matthew Hewitt wrote:
 
  
  I am running Debian 1.1.  I want to use it as a file server for MSDOS
  6.22. I was wondering what can I use to facilitate this. I know that I can
  use WFWG to connect to the samba server but is there such a thing for
  MSDOS?  I want to be able to boot off a floppy and have the Linux exported
  directory structure come up as c: . Basically make a Diskless(will sort
  of) dos station. Anyone hear of anything like this? Or is there a PC-NFS
  or equievelent in the shareware/freeware domain. 
  
 
 Microsoft at one time made a program that essentialy gave you WfWg 
 networking to a dos only machine.  However, I haven't seen it anywhere 
 for a least a year.
 

[Apology to the list!  I do not have Matthew's original message else I
would have sent this rather long response to him directly.]

Matthew -

The program you need is MSCLIENT.  I have attached a description of
how to use it which was posted to the Samba List.  I have not tried
the MSCLIENT but use WfWg clients with a SMB server on a HP 9000
system for print and file sharing - works great.  I consider GNU,
Linux and Samba the absolutely best software available.

 Matt Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Samba List):
 What you want to do involves using the NET command, however under WFW for
 some strange reason you can't use the TCP/IP protocol in DOS.  You should
 instead get MSClient 3.0 from ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/Clients (I
 believe)  and use it.  This will allow you a connection under DOS... 


- MSCLIENT Message from Samba List --

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:05:11 -0300 (GMT-0300)
From: C. Javier Castro Pena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to make boot disks with MS CLIENT
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This small help file is to make a booteable floppy that has MS CLIENT to
access a Samba Server. 
I received help in this mailing list to make it work, and here is what I
have done. I hope it helps somebody else.


1)- Install MSCLIENT 3.0 in a DOS hard drive.

2)- Copy the next files into a DOS formated 3 1/2 floppy:

 Volume in drive A is JCASPEN
 Directory for A:/

IO   SYS   407559-30-93   6:20a
MSDOSSYS   381589-30-93   6:20a
NET  DIR 10-24-96   8:38a
COMMAND  COM   565399-30-93   6:20a
AUTOEXEC BAT1054   10-24-96   1:06p
CHAU BAT 236   10-24-96   9:05a
CONFIG   SYS 443   10-24-96   8:56a
RED  BAT 483   10-24-96   9:05a
HIMEMSYS   292809-30-93   6:20a
EMM386   EXE  1214389-30-93   6:20a
SHAREEXE   110409-30-93   6:20a
VIRSTOP  EXE   487548-22-96   2:24a
DOSKEY   COM60229-30-93   6:20a
LEAMETXT 537   10-24-96   1:03p
SMARTDRV EXE   456579-30-93   6:20a
  15 File(s)  11264 bytes free


 Volume in drive A is JCASPEN
 Directory for A:/NET

DIR 10-24-96   8:38a
.   DIR 10-24-96   8:38a
DHCP PRM 1028-09-96   8:18p
ADDNAME  EXE   195698-09-96   8:13p
CONFIG   SYS  578-09-96   8:15p
CONNECT  DAT   0   10-24-96   1:46p
DNR  EXE   313128-09-96   8:13p
EMSBFR   EXE42948-09-96   8:13p
HOSTS8158-09-96   8:17p
IFSHLP   SYS46448-31-94  12:00a
IPCONFIG EXE   112056-12-96  11:41a
LMHOSTS  8176-12-96  11:41a
NCDINFO  INI 1828-09-96   8:02p
NDISHLP  SYS44688-31-94  12:00a
NE2000   DOS   138388-31-94  12:00a
NEMM DOS26196-12-96  11:41a
NET  EXE  4503262-07-95  12:40p
NET  MSG   762343-03-95   7:11p
NETBIND  COM85136-12-96  11:41a
NETH MSG  1230663-03-95   7:12p
NETWORK  INF   372318-31-94  12:00a
NETWORKS 4388-09-96   8:17p
NMTSREXE   228266-12-96  11:41a
SYSTEM   INI 515   10-24-96   1:47p
OEMDLC   INF 6888-31-94  12:00a
OEMODI   INF 4318-31-94  12:00a
OEMRAS   INF 9198-31-94  12:00a
OEMTCPIP INF16738-31-94  12:00a
SHARES   PWL 6228-09-96   8:15p
PROTMAN  DOS   219408-31-94  12:00a
PROTMAN  EXE   137828-31-94  12:00a
PROTOCOL 7956-12-96  11:41a
PROTOCOL INI 639   10-24-96  12:56p
SERVICES59736-12-96  11:41a
SETUPINF14778-31-94  12:00a
SOCKETS  EXE   500966-12-96  11:41a
TCPDRV   DOS41746-12-96  11:41a
TCPTSR   EXE   710406-12-96  11:41a
TCPUTILS INI 2336-12-96  11:41a
TINYRFC  EXE   370246-12-96  11:41a
UMB  COM33256-12-96  11:41a
WCSETUP  INF14778-31-94  12:00a
WFWSYS   CFG 8408-09-96   8 :15p
  43 File(s)  11264 bytes free  


3)- Edit the  *.INI files in the floppy, and 

the ls-lR file in ftp.debian.org is not up to date.

1996-11-28 Thread Oz Dror
 
 The files ls-lR and ls-lR.gz are not up to date.
 
 How often they are updated?
 
 I need these files to be up to date 
 for mirroring the debian distribution.
 
 -Oz
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Re: system accounting

1996-11-28 Thread mike
On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Richard Morin wrote:

 Sorry if this is a re-post, but I don't think my orig. message got 
 through.
 
 I am interested in learning how ISP's log user time on the system.  Is 
 it simply a matter of cron scripts utilizing wtmp and ac?  Or is 
 there a nice package which does that and more?
Well, here we use RADIUS and Livingston Portmasters.  It's a nice
setup hardware wise, but we're finding a little lacking on cheap
accounting software.  I've started to write my own system using the RADIUS
'detail' files and perl, it's pretty rough right now but it does the job.
If your interested in helping and or just getting what I have, gimme a
shout back.

mike...


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Who is guilty, the kernel or Debian?

1996-11-28 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hello everyone,

I am writing this message while I am frustrated after fighting over and over
and over with a Debian 1.1 installation. This is my story:

Problem
---

- EVERYTHING WORKS FINE EXCEPT AFTER REBOOTING. If I start Linux after a
cold start (reset switch or power cycle) Linux starts just fine; I can
compile the kernel, I can do networking (IPX, TCP/IP, SLIP, PPP, DNS, etc.),
I can do EVERYTHING... everything but rebooting: if I shutdown -r +1,
Ctrl-Alt-Del or reboot one of two things will happen:

1) After Linux does all the shutdown stuff (killing processes and unmounting
file systems) and just after the Rebooting... message is displayed on the
screen I will get some beeps generated by the BIOS. The number of beeps is
1-3-3 and according to the user's manual this means  1st 64KB RAM chip or
data failure

2) After the Rebooting... message is displayed, the computer seems to
reboot but the BIOS checks RAM and finds something wrong: I get a message
similar to Memory failure at : expected  and found  - Please
run setup program.

I have found that sometimes I also get the error CRC error after Lilo
decompresses the kernel.

Known Facts
---

- Computer: Digital DECpc LPx 466d2 (genuine Intel 80486DX2 running at 66
MHz), 16 MBytes of RAM, and 128 KBytes of L2 cache. This computer has been
running Slackware 1.3 with kernel 1.2.13 for about one and a half year. It's
been a SMTP, WWW, POP3, and DNS server (dedicated) in a network of 50+ users
with no problems at all.

- Hard drive: first tried a 1.2 GBytes IDE hard drive, and after I started
to have problems (see above for a description of the problem), I switched
back to the original Digital hard drive (224 MBytes) - didn't help, I got
the same problems.

- Network card: BOCALANcard-VL (local bus a NE2100 compatible). I have used
always the lance.c driver.

- It seems the server is 100% stable (if I do not reboot)

- Debian 1.1. I have applied all upgrades in buzz-updates (up to Debian 1.1.14)

- Kernel: started with 2.0.6 and when I switched to 2.0.26 problems started.
I tried kernel from 2.0.20 and up and always got same problems.

What I have done


1) I have installed Debian 1.1 several times. First times using one of the
standard boot disks and the last time I built one custom boot disk (using
the boot-disks and kernel-package packages) - did not work.

2) I have installed Debian from two different sources: FTP (through
dpkg-ftp) and from SCSI CD-ROM. Did not work.

3) Recompiled the kernel from 2.0.20 and up and nothing good happened: if
there is a problem with the kernel, it is already present in 2.0.20. My next
move would be to try with the older kernel I have (2.0.7)

4) The first time I thought the problem was due to the fact that there is no
BIOS option to support LBA. Because of this I changed my 1.2 Gig. disk with
the one that came originally with the computer (a 224 Meg disk) I reinstall
Debian on it and the problem showed up again.

5) (I am not too sure I did this one) I disabled the secondary cache.

Theories


- I do not think the problem is hardware: again, this server ran Slackware
1.3 with kernel 1.2.13 for one and a half years. I DID NOT change anything
for Debian 1.1 and kernel 2.0.x.

- Something broken in the kernel.

- There is something wrong with the reboot program.

- I am using the new IDE driver. May be there is something wrong with it?

Conclusion
--

I am lost. I have installed Linux (Slackware and Debian) many times in
computers ranging from desktops to notebooks. I have used many kinds of
hardware (PCMCIA, SCSI, IDE, multiport serial boards) with Linux (Debian and
Slackware) and never had a problem.

I am posting this message here because I am a Debian user. However, I do not
know if the problem is Debian or the kernel.

This machine will be a very important part of our IT structure, it will get
rid of a FreeBSD machine, it will be the gateway between two networks
connected through a leased line and a dedicated PPP link. I can run the
machine the way it is now but then I won't be able to reboot remotely. I can
not go 4 blocks away every time I need to reboot the server. I NEED
STABILITY!!! (even at reboot time)

I want to know who is guilty: the kernel? Debian? Somebody else? I am
looking for help, support, new ideas, new clues, anything... PLEASE HELP!!!

Thank you very much Debian user.

Regards,

Eloy.-

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Re: XFree86 3.2??

1996-11-28 Thread Carnage
 XFree 3.2 is in the new unstable tree: /pub/debian/bo/binary-i386/x11
 
 I recently upgraded to 3.2 and it hasn't crashed on me yet :)
 

Hello,

I just want to make sure that I'm doing this right.  I just downloaded
from the above site what I believe to be everything I need to upgrade from
XFree86 3.1.2 to 3.2.  Now, do I just do, as root, type dpkg -i
package_name and the Debian package utility will do everything for me?  For
example, to upgrade package xbase for v3.1.2 to xbase for v3.2 I just type
dpkg -i xbase and dpkg will automatically remove everything related to v3.1.2
for xbase and put in the new ones in for me?  Do I need to do any extra
housekeeping?

Thanks in advance for any help on this matter!


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Re: package sizes

1996-11-28 Thread Brian C. White
  box. I would like to be able to browse the ftp site and
  find out how big a package is going to be once it is installed
  *before* having to download it.
 
 Just download the Packages file for each distribution.  The installed
 size is the 'Size' field.  The size of the .deb you can get from the
 ls-lR.gz in the root directory.

Actually, as I understand it, Size is the size of the debian package
and Installed-Size is (supposed to be) the size once installed.

(I originally requested size and md5sum for sanity checking in dftp.)
 
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Re: Netscape - bus error

1996-11-28 Thread Brian C. White
 Thank you for your suggestion, it seems a very good one. I will try it
 in the evening (at home).
 
 Netscape is unable to allocate colors for its display.  Try doing
 netscape -ncols 64 and see if the unable to obtain erros go
 away.  If not, try numbers smaller than 64 or close some applications
 that are using lots of colors.  If the bus error goes away, you should
 report this as a bug to Netscape (see how to give feedback under the
 help menu).
 
 P.S. how can I acess the help menu if I can not acess Netscape? 8-).

chuckle  Well, I did say If the bus error goes away  But I must
admit I didn't think of that when I wrote it.
 
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Re: Debian for AXP?

1996-11-28 Thread Bruce Perens
Mike Neuffer, Bdale Garbee, Miquel and Danny of Cistron, and I have
all purchased DEC ALPHA Multias in the past two weeks. This bodes well
for a 1.2 release on them.

Bruce
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Re: Who is guilty, the kernel or Debian?

1996-11-28 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hello Bruce,

thanks for your response.

At 02:05 PM 11/28/96 PST, you wrote:

Does the system come up without complaint after a power-clear?

When I turn on the computer Linux starts with no problems at all (no
complaints) If I press the reset switch the same thing happens.

Can you revert to the 2.0.6 kernel and tell us if that one causes a problem?

Absolutely. I said in my message that was going to be my next move. I will
do that right now.

It sounds like a kernel interaction with BIOS, possibly related to
memory management bits not cleared by reset on your system.

I was thinking about something like this but it should have happened after
some change in a 2.0.x kernel because with 1.2.13 I am pretty sure it never
happened. If it is not the kernel, it could be the reboot() function (the
one in unistd.h that is been called from the halt.c, part of the SysVInit
package.)

I forgot to mention in my message that after the 1-3-3 beeps, the system
hangs (nothing is wrong with Linux afterwards because file systems were
unmounted and the system was brought down orderly) I need to cycle power or
press the reset button to restart.

I have noticed in computers that work fine with 2.0.x that the reboot caused
by a shutdown -r ... is warm, not cold as it seems to be in the case of
the computer I am having problems with.

The only other things I can think of are the hardware tweaks we do:
the software watchdog timer, and the serial interrupt reprogramming.
Those are unlikely. If you remove the watchdog and hwtools
packages, that would eliminate those programs as candidates.

My kernel is not compiled with watchdog timer support nor real time clock
support nor something new or unconventional, just the basic stuff. I have
not installed watchdog nor hwtools either.

Well, let me go back to 2.0.7 and we'll talk later.

Thanks,

Eloy.-

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