Re: shared library tutorial?
The elf how-to briefly mentions something about this, it says: just compile all the object files with -fPIC, then link with a command like gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,libfoo.so.y -o libfoo.so.y.x *.o If that looks complex, you obviously haven't ever read up on the equivalent procedure for a.out shared libraries, which involves com- piling the library twice, reserving space for all the data you think that the library is likely to require in future, and registering that address space with a third party (it's described in a document over 20 pages long --- look at ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/src/tools-2.17.tar.gz for details). I think that is what you want. Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida Signed pgp-key on key server. On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Dale Martin wrote: Hello, I have built a PCCTS source package - PCCTS is the Purdue Compiler-Construction Tool Set - it produces LL(K) parsers. I'm using it in a project which I will eventually Debianize. The PCCTS package is close to ready to upload, except it has some libraries in it, and I would like to compile them as shared libraries and don't know how. (I'd also like to use shared libraries in my own project.) Can anyone point me to an online reference on how to compile and use shared libraries? Note that I'm also interested in the portability of the solution - my project also is working with Linux/Alpha, and Solaris machines... Thanks for any info! Dale
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Re: perl/tk problem
Marco Prandini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to write some code with perl5's Tk module, but I've been stopped two seconds after my first try: Sounds like you have the latest perl installed, but not the latest perl-tk. If you upgrade to the latest perl-tk package (from unstable), the problem should be fixed. -- Rob
Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
Unless its changed in the past few months, Linux can read and write to dos/windows 95 partitions without a problem. There are two ways. The first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although this is usually only with a floppy. The second way is to mount the win95 partition using: mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir This should work like a charm. Let me know if it doesn't ... -- Harmon
Re: Lilo query
Your boot=/dev/hda3 should actually read boot=/dev/hda. This is how it is on my computer. Please let me know if this doesn't work. :-) -- Harmon
Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:57:43 -0300 (ARST) From: [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alex Lobkovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian user list debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32? On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Alex Lobkovsky wrote: Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem? You'll need to compile support for that into the kernel. The support is still in alpha state. Check http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html Nicolás Lichtmaier.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Works great to read win95 filesystems here. I'm a little leary to write anything but plain text files back to it though. I just wanted to add, I grabbed the alpha for Wineand I am very impressed. It runs some simple card games that my girlfreind likes just fine...(she is a little worried that I'm gonna get rid of the WinBlozes stuff for good..hehe) Does anyone else have a list of apps that wine runs? Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: xdm window for login prompt
Hay Walter: Check the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-error. See if there are any errors. Try hitting the ctrlalt+ or - a few times. not the + is the key pad not the key board +. Regards -- From: Walter Kotorynski[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 1997 5:26 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Walter Kotorynski Subject:xdm window for login prompt I have been unable to boot to the xdm login display. While in a normal console 1. ps ax shows /usr/bin/X11/xdm running 2. source /etc/X11/xdm Xsetup (and Xstartup) both run and fling me into the login prompt on the console (not an X-window). 3. startx brings up an X-window flawlessly with all resources present. I have edited the /etc/X11/config file according to the readme but to no avail. Thanks for any suggestions. They would be appreciated. Walt
Question about startup script
Hi The book I have says that the start up shell script (aka autoexec billspeak) is called .profile or .login in the home directory. When I look (using ls -a) I don't see anything like this. Any thoughts?? One other thing - how about some suggestions for an outstanding book - I not very happy with the ones I've gotten. Thanks.
Re: PLIP setup?
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Steve Reid wrote: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device SIOCSIFDSTADDR: No such device It looks as if the PLIP device is not compiled into the kernel. I don't get any message regarding PLIP when I boot, but I _know_ I have PLIP compiled into the kernel. Compile both lp and plip as modules- lp otherwise takes priority and since only one device per port is allowed, plip will not exist. You can make an ugly hack to kernel sources if you wish. With the 11 wire plip cable on port 0x278 (IRQ 5), I connect machines edp0 and edp1 (.1 and .2) as follows: /sbin/insmod plip io=0x278 irq=5 /sbin/ifconfig plip0 arp 10.0.0.1 pointopoint 10.0.0.2 up /sbin/route add -net 10.0.0.0 plip0 /sbin/route add -host 10.0.0.2 plip0 edp0 is the gateway machine (short.circuit.com) and the above is used on edp1 with the difference of .1 and .2 being swapped around in the command lines. In addition, edp0 is defined as the gateway on edp1: /sbin/route add default gw 10.0.0.1 plip0 Slow machines like mine need klogd -c4 to stop plip errors from going to the screen. To take the network down: /sbin/ifconfig plip0 down rmmod plip -!-
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Re: Problems with mouse.
Brown, Paul, BROWNPA2 wrote: I have just installed the latest version of Debian GNU/Linux (v 1.2 I think) and when it came to the device installation section I asked it to install the MS Bus Mouse driver. When the system boots up it says that it has found the bus mouse, however when I tried to install XFree86 it could not find any mouse attached no matter what device I told it to use. To try and see if I could access the mouse from outside X I obtained the gpm module and installed it, but to no avail, it to did not show any signs of being able to access the mouse, no errors, but no mouse either. This is my exact setup : Debian GNU/Linux 1.2 Old Microsoft Inport Bus Mouse Adapter Card and Mouse msbusmouse module installed saying that device is /dev/msmouse gpm installed with device set to /dev/msmouse and type set to any of bm/ms or bare When gpm goes into it's test phase it says that it connects to /dev/msmouse fine, but none of the types give me any joy. Can anybody help ? I have read some older messages from this mailing list that said something about needing to get a new kernel version, is this still required for the latest version of Debian GNU/Linux. If so what do I have to get and where do I get it from ? Many thanks in advance to anybody who is able to help. Regards, Paul Brown Add the -R option to your gpm configuration, and that should work. It did for me. marc.
Re: PLIP setup?
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Spineux Alain wrote: You can't include PLIP and the printer driver together You can with separate ports and module support.. #/etc/conf.modules # [..] options lp io=0x3bc,0x378 options plip io=0x278;irq=5 This puts a printer on your plip network. -!-
The broken PPP saga continues!
Okay... for those who offered to look at my scripts and such, here's everything you'd ever need to know about what's going on, I hope. I put a lot of time into organizing the information into something easy to read, so, even though it's long, I'd appreciate it if you'd take the time to give it a look but only if you know a thing or two about PPP. First, I'll give you how things look on the *SERVER* side... the Debain box I'm dialing into. Keep in mind that this is the machine that runs our modem pool of four modems and we've never had any complaints of people not being able to connect or getting dropped. Now, among other entries, ifconfig returns the following. ppp1 is a win95 connection that I just connected with for comparison. ppp3 is the one from the Debian machine that can't get pings back. The ppp2 is another user... probably Win95 included here in case it helps. In the logs posted below, the the interface is ppp0, so don't go telling me that I'm looking at the wrong thing. The logs that are posted and the ifconfig output, albeit from different sessions, represent sessions that were identical in respect to their brokenness. ## ppp1 Link encap:Point-Point Protocol inet addr:207.114.134.1 P-t-P:207.114.134.200 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:156 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:102 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 ppp2 Link encap:Point-Point Protocol inet addr:207.114.134.1 P-t-P:207.114.134.201 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:740 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:682 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 ppp3 Link encap:Point-Point Protocol inet addr:207.114.134.1 P-t-P:207.114.134.202 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:314 errors:2 dropped:2 overruns:0 TX packets:175 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Next, route returns: # Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface modem2.genesisc * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 20 ppp2 modem1.genesisc * 255.255.255.255 UH0 04 ppp1 modem3.genesisc * 255.255.255.255 UH0 06 ppp3 localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 3448 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 596 lo default 207.114.134.250 0.0.0.0 UG1 039322 eth0 Here's a section from ppp.log of the Win95 machine logging in with CHAP: ### Feb 28 18:01:56 debian1 pppd[17294]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Feb 28 18:01:56 debian1 pppd[17294]: Using interface ppp1 Feb 28 18:01:56 debian1 pppd[17294]: Connect: ppp1 -- /dev/ttyR0 Feb 28 18:01:58 debian1 pppd[17294]: user jemenake logged in Feb 28 18:01:59 debian1 pppd[17294]: local IP address 207.114.134.1 Feb 28 18:01:59 debian1 pppd[17294]: remote IP address 207.114.134.200 Feb 28 18:01:59 debian1 pppd[17294]: found interface eth0 for proxy arp Feb 28 18:01:59 debian1 pppd[17294]: CCP terminated at peer's request Feb 28 18:01:59 debian1 pppd[17294]: Compression disabled by peer. Here's a section from ppp.log of the Debian machine logging in with debug activated on the server side: ### Feb 28 18:14:29 debian1 pppd[18084]: pppd 2.2.0 started by jemenake, uid 1000 Feb 28 18:14:29 debian1 pppd[18084]: Using interface ppp0 Feb 28 18:14:29 debian1 pppd[18084]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyR3 Feb 28 18:14:29 debian1 pppd[18084]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xdae82342 pcomp accomp] Feb 28 18:14:32 debian1 pppd[18084]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xdae82342 pcomp accomp] Feb 28 18:14:32 debian1 pppd[18084]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x27 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xa03210f4 pcomp accomp] Feb 28 18:14:32 debian1 pppd[18084]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x27 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xa03210f4 pcomp accomp] Feb 28 18:14:32 debian1 pppd[18084]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xdae82342 pcomp accomp] Feb 28 18:14:32 debian1 pppd[18084]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 207.114.134.1 compress VJ 0f 01] Feb 28 18:14:32 debian1 pppd[18084]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 bsd v1 12] Feb 28 18:14:33 debian1 pppd[18084]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1a addr 0.0.0.0 compress VJ 0f 01] Feb 28 18:14:33 debian1 pppd[18084]: sent [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1a addr 207.114.134.203] Feb 28 18:14:33 debian1 pppd[18084]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 addr 207.114.134.1 compress VJ 0f 01] Feb 28 18:14:33 debian1 pppd[18084]: rcvd [CCP ConfReq id=0xf] Feb 28 18:14:33 debian1 pppd[18084]: sent [CCP ConfAck id=0xf] Feb 28 18:14:33 debian1 pppd[18084]: rcvd [CCP ConfRej id=0x1 bsd v1 12] Feb 28 18:14:33 debian1 pppd[18084]:
Netscape won't gunzip now
Ever since I re-installed Netscape 3.01 with the Debian installer, it will no longer gunzip a compressed file like it used to. What do I need to add to my /etc/mailcap file in order to make it do that again? Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t
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Re: Installation problem which now is network problem
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Daniel Karlsson wrote:
...
boot manager, Linux is now up and running.
Unfortunately it's not up and running to that extent I would like to. I have
no contact at all with the network and with the Internet in particular. I
think I have to make some changes in the network configuration. The question
is: How do I reconfigure the network when I've already installed Linux. I
don't want to reinstall it for a small matter like this.
I don't know if you're having the exact same problem as i had, but
here's what happened to me: I just recently did an ftp install of debian.
Everything was fine, but my network didn't start. If you've done the
configuration correctly, you should be able to do this:
# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1
RX packets:1410 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:1410 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:20:AF:51:6E:10
inet addr:x.x.x.x Bcast:x.x.x.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2349 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:1838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
Interrupt:5 Base address:0x200
If you don't see the eth0, then you have to do something like
ifconfig eth0 your.ip.numbers.here
or something. Read the man page.
If your eth0 is showing correctly then you have to look at:
# netstat -r
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt
Iface
localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 1500 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 3584 0 0 lo
default x.x.x.x 0.0.0.0 UG 1500 0 0 eth0
If you don't have a route out to the 'net through some default gateway,
then you need to add a route. See the route man pages (which i have to
say, are not very clear).
If that's okay, then you have to see if there's a /etc/init.d/network
file. Mine looks like:
# more /etc/init.d/network
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=x.x.x.x
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=x.x.x.0
BROADCAST=x.x.x.255
GATEWAY=x.x.x.x
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
You can see that it does the ifconfig and route commands for you. This was
created in the configuration correctly. If you run this network file after
bootup and you connect to the 'net properly, then you're exactly at the
same place i was.
Here's where the default installation failed for me: the network file
was executed and worked, but then the kerneld removed the network after
all the startup stuff was done! I don't know why it did that. I do know
that people on this list helped me to find the answer: i created a link to
the network file called /etc/rc2.d/S98network. That was it. Now the system
boots, starts the network, kerneld shuts it down and S98 restarts it and
it stays.
I hope this was useful in some way. Maybe some part of it will tell you
the answer to what your problem is. If not, maybe i'll learn from you when
the solution is finally posted to this list.
Good luck.
...
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Re: Netscape 4.0b2 out, any success?
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997,, Brian wrote: Brian Brian Also, NetScape takes about 5 minutes to start if you have Brian mime-support installed. It seems to run /bin/sh for every Brian entry in /etc/mailcap and it doesn't like what it finds in Brian there at all. Eventually after spewing a bunch of error Brian messages, it settles down and runs. I've had to temporarily Brian delete /etc/mailcap to make it bearable. Brian Brian There was some incompatibility between netscape and (I think). Brian metamail I'm not sure if it has been fixed, yet . Brian Brian The startup time problem come from netscape trying every test Brian in mailcap each time it starts up. For me, Netscape 4 starts up faster then 3. (but dies more :( ) borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hebrew University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerusalem, Israelphone: +972 2 6411880
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997,, John wrote: John I editted /etc/ppp.chatscript to properly log into the John dial-in server. Since /etc/ppp.options_out made reference to John /dev/modem, I went to /dev and make a symlink from modem to John ttyS0. (I know I could have edited the John John Bad idea. Replace the entry in the options file with ttyS0, do John NOT make a modem symlink. This could, in fact, be responsible John for all the rest of your problems. Funny, I never had any problems running it from link. (same goes for mouse, cdrom, tape and so on...). Besides uucp locking collusion, there nothing wrong with that. borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hebrew University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerusalem, Israelphone: +972 2 6411880
Re: Upgrade procedure for tetex
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Christoph Martin wrote: - Purge all the old tex packages which are replaced by tetex. (E.g. go into dselect, select the tetex-packages, look which old tex packages are marked to be removed, purge the packages.) tetex replaces: amslatex, amstex, babel, bibtex, dvipsk, kpathsea, kpathsea-dev, latex, latex2e-doc, ltxmisc, ltxtool, makeindex, mfbasfnt, mfdcfnt, mflib, mfnfss, ps2pk, psnfss, texbin, texi2html, texinfo, texlib, texpsfnt, textmf, xdvik a cut paste solution is: dpkg --purge --force-depends amslatex amstex babel bibtex dvipsk kpathsea kpathsea-dev latex latex2e-doc ltxmisc ltxtool makeindex mfbasfnt mfdcfnt mflib mfnfss ps2pk psnfss texbin texi2html texinfo texlib texpsfnt textmf xdvik note, the --force-depends is necessary. babel wont uninstall cleanly without it... Then use dpkg or dselect to install the tetex packages. (assuming you have a mirror of debian mounted at /debian:) cd /debian dpkg -i bo/binary/tex/tetex-base_0.4pl6-2.deb bo/binary/tex/tetex-bin_0.4pl6-4.deb bo/binary/tex/tetex-dev_0.4pl6-4.deb bo/binary/tex/tetex-doc_0.4pl6-1.deb bo/binary/tex/tetex-extra_0.4pl6-2.deb tetex-bin still comes up with some warning messages about ls -lR files missing - i don't know how serious this is...it does install cleanly. texconfig has an option to make the ls-lR files, so i doubt if it's big problem. Craig
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
In your email to me, CoB SysAdmin, you wrote: Gee, that's *[EMAIL PROTECTED] hillarious, since *I'm* the ISP and I configured the dial-up server exactly the way specified in the PPP HOWTO. If you want a better solution, why not use diald? It will automatically bring up the modem when there is a connection attempt, will handle disconnects due to idle, etc. This is silly. This is like asking me to put my coffee-maker on an auto- matic timer when the damn thing doesn't even make coffee correctly in the first place. All diald would do is give me a non-functioning ppp link... by hey, at least it would be on-demand, eh? To your credit, from what I've been reading, only you and Jens Jorgensen seem to know PPP from a hole in the ground. You two are the only ones who seemed to have even a clue as to where the problem might lie. Strangely, you two are also the only ones who suggested diald which is clearly an inappropriate step until I actually can get a packet back from the remote machine. Gee.. as an ISP myself, and someone who has also built houses from scratch, I think I know PPP *and* a hole in the ground. See my howto on my ISP page, and then try your ppp dialin again. If you can't get it to work, email me at buoy.com. We have people dialing in with Linux every day. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Cogito, ergo sum. Cogito, ergo doleo. Cogito sumere potum alterum. I think, I am. I think, I am depressed. I think I'll have another drink. -- Rob Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, CoB SysAdmin wrote: This is perhaps indicitive of a problem with your ISP. It is strange that it goes out but does not return. Gee, that's *[EMAIL PROTECTED] hillarious, since *I'm* the ISP and I configured the dial-up server exactly the way specified in the PPP HOWTO. well, then you must have done something wrong. Either in your dialin server config, or in the config on the machine dialing out. I've (so far) set up over a dozen machines as debian-based PPP dialin servers. Not a single problem with any of them. (most of these, btw, are installed at schools where the technical knowledge of the average teacher is not very high - yet they manage to get their win/win95/mac boxes connected to the dialin server from home) I've also set up dozens and dozens of linux boxes (mostly debian, some redhat and slackware) to dial out to an ISP and either maintain a permanent connection or just dial on demand. IT IS NOT DIFFICULT AT ALL TO GET PPP WORKING ON DEBIAN. More generally, it is not difficult at all to get PPP working on any of the Linux distributions I've worked with. Certainly a lot easier than slip. It is easier to get a dialin server up and running than it is to configure a dialout ppp connection - for a dialin server all you have to do is build a debian box (making sure that you install the ppp package), and create user accounts. The hardest PPP setup i've ever done was one particular site (using redhat) which needed an eql load-balanced link using two modems from one office to another officemost of the time taken to do that was in reading the documentation to figure out how the eql driver worked...and then trying to splice that into redhat's bletcherous init/config file system. If you want a better solution, why not use diald? It will automatically bring up the modem when there is a connection attempt, will handle disconnects due to idle, etc. This is silly. This is like asking me to put my coffee-maker on an auto- matic timer when the damn thing doesn't even make coffee correctly in the first place. All diald would do is give me a non-functioning ppp link... by hey, at least it would be on-demand, eh? you're right on this point - you don't need diald for what you want to set up. One thing for you to check: is /usr/bin/pppd setuid root on both machines? Craig
Re: PLIP setup?
At 06:47 PM 2/28/97 -0800, Jim wrote: Hmmm - how fast is PLIP? Are you able to give me some stats on FTP's and ping times? I'm wondering if it's faster than 115200 serial... Regards Compile both lp and plip as modules- lp otherwise takes priority and since only one device per port is allowed, plip will not exist. You can make an ugly hack to kernel sources if you wish. With the 11 wire plip cable on port 0x278 (IRQ 5), I connect machines edp0 and edp1 (.1 and .2) as follows: /sbin/insmod plip io=0x278 irq=5 /sbin/ifconfig plip0 arp 10.0.0.1 pointopoint 10.0.0.2 up /sbin/route add -net 10.0.0.0 plip0 /sbin/route add -host 10.0.0.2 plip0 edp0 is the gateway machine (short.circuit.com) and the above is used on edp1 with the difference of .1 and .2 being swapped around in the command lines. In addition, edp0 is defined as the gateway on edp1: /sbin/route add default gw 10.0.0.1 plip0 Slow machines like mine need klogd -c4 to stop plip errors from going to the screen. To take the network down: /sbin/ifconfig plip0 down rmmod plip -!- -- ___ Karl Ferguson, Tower Networking Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] t/a STAR Online Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +61-9-455-3446 Fax: +61-9-455-2776 http://www.star.net.au ___
Re: PLIP setup?
Hmmm - how fast is PLIP? Are you able to give me some stats on FTP's and ping times? I'm wondering if it's faster than 115200 serial... It sure is! I haven't tried FTP yet, but `ping -s 8` times look good: PLIP 3.6 ms 33.6k modem 100.3 ms 10base-T 0.5 ms Jim pointed me to the mini-HOWTO in /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/PLIP.gz which has all the necessary instructions. I've currently got plip and lp compiled into the kernel and working at the same time, thanks to simple instructions in the mini-howto.
Solved (was: first installation, network problem)
Thanks to all kind wise persons who helped me to solve the problem. Gateway and DNS addresses were wrong and /etc/hosts.allow as well. I used Rescue disk to reconfigure network because I do not know another way (more convinient) to do that. With regards, Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030
Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote: Unless its changed in the past few months, Linux can read and write to dos/windows 95 partitions without a problem. There are two ways. The first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although this is usually only with a floppy. The second way is to mount the win95 partition using: mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir This should work like a charm. Let me know if it doesn't ... -- Harmon Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16? Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32!
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Re: The broken PPP saga continues!
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, CoB SysAdmin wrote: So, looking at it all like this, it appears that the conversation goes fine until they agree on IP addresses. After that, the server doesn't see any of the client's echo requests. However, the client DOES see the single on that comes from the server. Now, I *DON'T* think this is an problem with LCP timing settings. The LCP echoes are only to preserve the connection. If I played with those, that would only make the connection stay up longer before quitting but I still wouldn't get any IP packets through... no matter HOW long the modems stay connected. The only things different between this connection and the Win95 conenection are the following: 1 - The Win95 connection disabled CCP 2 - The Win95 disabled compression (of any kind?) 3 - The Debian connection disabled bsd compression. Any ideas? 1. try disabling (comment out or delete) the lcp-echo-interval and lcp-echo-failure options...on the client and/or on the server. 2. try putting -bsdcomp in the options file for both the server and the client. Alternatively, put bsdcomp 15,15 in and make sure that the bsd_comp module is loaded on both machinesadd it to /etc/modules or load it by hand with modprobe bsd_comp. This will probably make no difference but it is worth a try. 3. have you compiled your own kernel? if not, try doing so, making sure that ppp is compiled as a module. If you have, is ppp a module? 4. is 'serial' listed in /etc/modules? is 'ppp' listed in /etc/modules? if not then they will eventually get unloaded by kerneld. 5. is /dev/modem configured correctly with setserial? check your /etc/rc.boot/0setserial script. 6. what is /dev/modem pointing to? a ttyS device or cua device? if cua, then change it to ttyScua devices are obsolete. 7. are you running mgetty on the same port? if you are, then you definitely want to use ttyS devices rather than cua...i often set this up so that the dial-out line can be used as an emergency dial-in line if the ppp link fails to establish for some reason (e.g. cron is dead). Haven't had to use this often but it is very handy when i need it. You will also want to add 'lock' to the ppp options files. 8. what versions of pppd are you running on the client and on the server? craig
Changing kernel.
Hello! I'm about to compile a new kernel. Do I have to take the .deb kernel or can I download the latest from sunsite.unc.edu? /Micke
Re: Perhaps someone can help me
The below should easily be edited into the FAQ or a HOWTO type document. Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Peter Iannarelli wrote: I'm looking for the pgp encryption facility. * On the Debian mirrors, there is a file named README.non-US saying: US laws place restrictions on the export of defense articles, which includes some types of cryptographic software. PGP and ssh fall into this category. It is legal however, to import such software into the US. Other software may not be used at all in the US because of patent violations. bzip falls into this category. To prevent anyone from taking unnecessary legal risks, some Debian GNU/Linux packages are only available from a non-US site: os.inf.tu-dresden.de:/pub/debian-non-US/ Mirrors of the above site include: CountryHost:/Directory Administrator or contact Australia ftp.progsoc.uts.edu.au:/pub/Linux/debian-non-US/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Germanyftp.inf.tu-dresden.de:/pub/os/linux/debian-non-US Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Maybe we should make a symlink README.pgp - README.non-US to avoid confusion :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBMxdDQCqK7IlOjMLFAQGT3QP+PwQfbq2HE+s46kxYiCfQCorzCL4gTlQQ NFKNtVujrLL+sH+eGK3/8kZ2Q6qfMWJipjIJ5Rc44XAcwLrSLh9SOrqP2M7+YZLc IeY2h9KexW1lruWpO06xRquA9vQotQ/K2nDEtCMJVjVUytFBaI/C5eB6RMlSEef0 N4ygyVpfjX8= =zr0A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 4.0b2 out, any success?
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Brian S. Julin wrote: It may be that my ld.so does not seem to support ELF LD_PRELOAD anymore. The manpage calls it an a.out ld.so and only mentions LD_AOUT_PRELOAD. I take this to mean that ELF binaries no longer need ld.so, but how do I get my libXpm.so.4.6 to load and override the definitions in the other so's? Nevermind. It just didn't register that the script posted earlier was for csh so I wasn't exporting the shell variables. Another problem is that if you are running libc.5.4 you need to go get yourself a copy of libc.so.5.2.18 and load that. Get Debian's, using RedHat's binary kills network support. Now at least I can run the mail reader. I'm not loading Xpm 4.6 right now because I don't know how to load more than one library (do I have to link them both into the same library or will a colon-separated list be accepted in LD_PRELOAD? How do I know if I succeed? What's the meaning of life?). What dies if I use libXpm 4.7 -- I haven't noticed anything crashing yet. The only thing I haven't gotten working yet is SMTP transfer of outbound mail. It says the host refuses connection for some reason. I don't use java (hate coffee in fact) but I fired up Collabra and it is doing quite well. One bummer is that there is currently no planned support for NetScape Conference under Linux and BSDI, only the commercial UNIX get it. -- Brian S. Julin
POP3 Server
Hi All, What is the lastest version of the POP3 Mail Server software. I seem to be getting reports from users who say they have 'Remove Mail from the Server' selected so that when a mail download completes to their mail reader it should remove it, but it does not. Almost every single problem report comes from users running Netscape Mail or Microsoft Mail. The problem seems to point to the mail reader, because when they switch to pegasus or eudora the problem goes away. BUT, just in case it is a POP3 Server probelm.. I'd like to upgrade Thanks. -- | Darren Klein| Internet Service Provider | 718/962-1725 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 718/962-1708 Fax | | New World Data Corp |http://www.nwdc.com| Telnet: nwdc.com | --
Re: Question about startup script
cobal wrote: Hi The book I have says that the start up shell script (aka autoexec billspeak) is called .profile or .login in the home directory. When I look (using ls -a) I don't see anything like this. Any thoughts?? This depends (to some extent) on which shell you use. I use ksh or sh or bash, depending on the machine that I'm on, and .profile is the file to use for these. If you run cd with no argument to assure that you're in your home directory (or cd $HOME on most systems), then run ls -l .profile .login and get message(s) that there is no such file, then you may 'echo echo $HOME; ls -la .profile' and, to test, run . ./.profile. If you're running some other shell, I can only suggest that you run man the_name_of_the_shell_you_use and carefully read the fine manual. HTH. One other thing - how about some suggestions for an outstanding book - I not very happy with the ones I've gotten. Thanks. The Nutshell books from O'Reilly Associates have served me well on any of the specific subjects that they address. You didn't provide a clue on which subject that is, however, so you might like LINUX Unleashed from SAMS Publishing. Or, you might not, it's a lot of material not particularly well organized for the cookbook approach. You could profitably run ls /usr/doc | pg or ls /usr/doc | more and then pg /usr/doc/subject_that_interests_you for a few years before you're likely to need any other books. e-mail me if you need any further detail. BTW, these are clues that I'd have appreciated a lot, if they'd come with the Debian CD that I purchased. -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someday soon I really MUST find a way to piss away a LOT of bandwidth on this .sig
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, CoB SysAdmin wrote: Gee, that's *[EMAIL PROTECTED] hillarious, since *I'm* the ISP and I configured the dial-up server exactly the way specified in the PPP HOWTO. well, then you must have done something wrong. Either in your dialin server config, or in the config on the machine dialing out. snip (suggestion to use diald) you're right on this point - you don't need diald for what you want to set up. and you don't need ppp as a kernel module, either - KISS. Did you get my e-mail on the need to send a modem AT command (ats0 on my modem, but this isn't standardized for all modems) to set DSR on so that the modem won't hang up between the time the chat script ends and pppd takes over? Your highly detailed diagnostic output seemed to me to indicate that the pppd's on each end were in the process of negotiation, but I'm not experienced enough in these areas to be sure. BTW, I'm sure this list will eventually resolve your problem in spite of the tone of your postings. I understand that debugging problems like this can be very frustrating (especially when Bill M$s and his henchmen make it look so easy), but you catch more bees with honey than with a ration of sh*t. -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someday soon I really MUST find a way to piss away a LOT of bandwidth on this .sig
Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
In your email to me, Lawrence Chim, you wrote: Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote: Unless its changed in the past few months, Linux can read and write to dos/windows 95 partitions without a problem. There are two ways. The first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although this is usually only with a floppy. The second way is to mount the win95 partition using: mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir This should work like a charm. Let me know if it doesn't ... -- Harmon Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16? Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32! Heh.. I must have sent out about 100 replys like this one from people telling me the same thing as above. I've just given up replying. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Paranoia is a survival mechanism. -- Anon ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
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Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
Lawrence Chim wrote: Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote: snip first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although this is usually only with a floppy. The second way is to mount the win95 partition using: mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir This should work like a charm. Let me know if it doesn't ... -- Harmon Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16? Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32! Is this why I have to put up with those whatev~1.foo names? Someone posted their reluctance to deal with other than .txt files to or from the WinDoze slice. I've had success with moving .exe .doc .etc files to and from - no problem (except for the truncated file names). -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someday soon I really MUST find a way to piss away a LOT of bandwidth on this .sig
Re: Linux and Fat32?
As far as I know it does. Just use the standard mount command, but with a -t vfat filesystem option. You'll need to load the vfat module at boot time (when you installed debian, the configure modules section gives you this ability). So the command would be: mount -t vfat /dev/hd? /mountDir You can put a record in your /etc/fstab to automate this. (works for me :-) ) -- Harmon
Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote: Lawrence Chim wrote: Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote: snip first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although this is usually only with a floppy. The second way is to mount the win95 partition using: mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir This should work like a charm. Let me know if it doesn't ... -- Harmon Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16? Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32! Is this why I have to put up with those whatev~1.foo names? Someone posted their reluctance to deal with other than .txt files to or from the WinDoze slice. I've had success with moving .exe .doc .etc files to and from - no problem (except for the truncated file names). no, if you can mount and use the win95 filesystem, and the only problem is truncated filenames, then you have vfat (which is still FAT16), and you can solve the problem by adding -t vfat to the mount command as noted above. HTH __ Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perhaps someone can help me
Santiago Vila writes: On the Debian mirrors, there is a file named README.non-US saying: Great. Now, why doesn't this file have a link named README.pgp? Why do you expect someone looking for pgp to look in README.non-us? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: Perhaps someone can help me
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:18:19 -0500, you wrote: I'm looking for the pgp encryption facility. I've install all if the debian packages I can and my system seems void of pgp. It*s not in the dselect programm. On my distribution it*s in the following dir. cdrom/debian/non-us/binary-i386/pgp-i_2.6.1*** Search for yourself in the tree to find the correct name (i am mailing still unter W95, and that can not do rockridge iso9660) , and then the following dpkg -i [tree and name of the programm] MfG bjoern
Using my old Dos PGP-pubring under Linux?
Hello Is it possible to use my old PGP keyrings (generated under DOS) under Linux? Kind regards.bjoern
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
Craig writes: IT IS NOT DIFFICULT AT ALL TO GET PPP WORKING ON DEBIAN. More generally, it is not difficult at all to get PPP working on any of the Linux distributions I've worked with. It is not difficult for you or me to get PPP working. It *is* difficult for many people. There is a real problem, and saying over and over It isn't hard for me is no solution. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
x windows
Hello, well i got 1.2.2 installed and i was wondering about x windows, could anyone tell me how much disk space i will need to run this. i have an old 386 with 4m ran and 20mb of swap space. looking forward to hearing from you. allan - Name: Allan W. Bart, Jr. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/1/97 Time: 1:26:20 PM This message was sent by Chameleon -
Re: Using my old Dos PGP-pubring under Linux?
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Bjoern Starke wrote: Is it possible to use my old PGP keyrings (generated under DOS) under Linux? Yes. Put it all in the directory ~/.pgp Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sysadmin? Me?! Naah... I think that I shall never see a poem as lovely as a binary tree.
Debian diald/pppd IPCP negotiation problem; fails first time, succeeds second time [db]
Hi, I'm having trouble connecting with ppp under diald, on Debian 1.2.x. When I run pppd without diald (using Debian's pon command), pppd connects fine. When I use diald to run pppd, PPP won't connect the first time, but will the second time. (And if the connection goes idle for a while and diald hangs up, the first reconnection attempt fails, but the second works.) (This is not 100%, but about 95% of the time. That is, once in a while, it does connect the first time.) (Note: This is NOT the known diald problem of connecting the _first_ time and _not_ connecting subsequently.) So far, I have traced the problem to patterns in PPP's IPCP configuration negotation. However, I could use some explanation of exactly what the IPCP negotiation packets mean and what's going on. (See the system log data below. I could also use an explanation of the _LCP_ configuration rejection packets -- what is being rejected?) I suspect that part of the problem is at the other end, and part is at my end. It appears to me that the other end, for some reason, alternates between providing addresses and not providing addresses during IPCP configuration on subsequent connection attempts.(See rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1] in the failed attempt vs. rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr xxx.yyy.30.109] in the successful attempt, below.) Is my interpretation of the IPCP packets correct? Does it sound like a configuration problem at the other end, or at my end? (The other end is an Ascend multiple-ISDN-modem box, a MAX 5000 or something, at my employer. We have static IP addresses.) At my end, it appears that some difference in my ppp, pon, and diald setup files lets PPP proceed with IPCP negotiation anyway when I use pon, but not when I use diald. The pon command uses local and remote IP addresses I have specified in the Debian PPP option file read by pon. (The addresses are not in the main pppd options file, but are added to the pppd command line by pon.) I have specified the local and remote IP addresses in the diald options file (and verified that diald is using that options file -- if I comment out the local and remote lines, diald notices and complains). However, it appears that diald doesn't pass these addresses to pppd (according to ps -ww... and to /proc/xxx/cmdline). (I thought diald passed the IP addresses to pppd when it ran pppd. Does it? Am I missing some diald configuration option to tell it to do so? Also, it there a debugging option to tell diald to log the options it passes to pppd?) So...does anyone have any ideas on this? I'm getting tired of having to wait for diald/pppd to try twice every time (especially given that diald won't seem to retry upon failure unless there's a _new_ packet transmitted by an application.) Thanks. Daniel -- Example of failure: ...darkstar pppd[...]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x48d04f2a pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 5d ae 4c] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x4 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 5d ae 4c] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x5 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x48d04f2a pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x48d04f2a pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr xxx.yyy.30.95 compress VJ 0f 01] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 addr 0.0.0.0] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr xxx.yyy.30.95 compress VJ 0f 01] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr xxx.yyy.30.95] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 addr xxx.yyy.30.95] ...darkstar pppd[...]: Could not determine remote IP address Example of success: ...darkstar pppd[...]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x44bd52ef pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 5d ae 4c] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x3 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 5d ae 4c] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x44bd52ef pcomp accomp] ...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck
Re: Changing kernel.
Hi, Mikael == Mikael Hallendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mikael Hello! Mikael I'm about to compile a new kernel. Do I have to take the .deb Mikael kernel or can I download the latest from sunsite.unc.edu? Get the latest, by all means. You should also get a package called kernel-package (3.17 at the moment, I think) from unstable which will help you make a new kernel-image-X.X.XX-Y_i386.deb file, which you may subsequently install using dpkg. manoj -- All true theorems are obvious. Keane's Kriterion Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/
mailing lists
Mike hasn't responded to the request I sent on Thursday to restore my directory on master, so I'll have to put the list server back up from scratch. Hopefully I'll have time for it this evening. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Graphics file converter(s) (Like xv)
I am looking for a general puropose conversion program for graphich formats. What I would really like would be sonething like xv that could be run ono interactivley by the lp interface script. Ultimetly II need the fiel is PCL3, but I have ghostscript converting from postscript already, so something that can ouptup postscript would work. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Re: Package configuration philosophy
Ever since I started using Debian about two years ago I have been gnashing my teeth here because the DEL/HOME/END keys did not work at the prompt. Now I discover .inputrc. This is IMO a prime candidate for something that can and should be installed along with bash on day one, on ix86 boxes. Or at least an offer to install it. I might be the only one on this list who is still wet behind the ears, but just in case I'm not, here is my ~/.inputrc:- #set bell-style visible #set show-all-if-ambiguous On \e[1~: beginning-of-line \e[3~: delete-char \e[4~: end-of-line Lindsay
Re: PLIP setup?
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote: Hmmm - how fast is PLIP? Are you able to give me some stats on FTP's and ping times? I'm wondering if it's faster than 115200 serial... I don't do well with my slow machine (web crawler indeed) but even it manages 15 KB/s using ncftp. Andrea tells me his setup does 40 KB/s or thereabouts. Curious as to how well this compares to a null-modem serial connection.. This weekend I was planning to look into nfsroot and try to get the other machine to boot up over the PLIP connection. Just for kicks, you know. Does anyone have any info on doing this? -!-
Re: x windows
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, well i got 1.2.2 installed and i was wondering about x windows, could anyone tell me how much disk space i will need to run this. i have an old 386 with 4m ran and 20mb of swap space. When I first installed X on my machine, I only had 8mb of ram. I discovered that when I was running X, I was paging continuously. I don't know if there is any official recommendation, but I am afraid the 4mb of ram isn't going to be enough. I have heard of a ``small'' implementation of X, which if memory serves used less disk space and memory. Unfortunatly I don't know much about it Hopefully someone else might. Scott looking forward to hearing from you. allan - Name: Allan W. Bart, Jr. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/1/97 Time: 1:26:20 PM This message was sent by Chameleon -
Re: /etc/alternatives -- Why?
What is the /etc/alternatives directory for. I mean, what's the philosophy behind it? Thanks Paul Serice It lets people have two programs with the same name on the system at once. Examples: nvi, vim, etc: install as vi xemacs, emacs: both install as emacs -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
Yes. And it also supports long filenames on those partitions. Hi, Having benefited greatly from this list before, I do not doubt for a moment that someone will know the answer to this: Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem? thanks in advance. -alex -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: Live filesystem on CDs
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm, just an observation here. (Not necessarily directed at you, Mike.) Are *all* packages that are compressed with gzip compressed with gzip -9? Including all .orig.tar.gz files, .diff.gz, etc.? If not, this may be a way to save some space for now. The gzip call for these files is done by dpkg-source, so the gzip options are determined by dpkg-source and not by the developer. Right, this is kinda what I'm getting at. dpkg-source, debstd, etc. should all be using -9. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
This is *not* an acceptable fix. Other packages, for isntance Samba, will **NOT** work with lprng. On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much Deleted. The real fix seems to go to lprng. That's the official position of the maintainer as well, as stated in a msg. to this list last year. I'll do it as soon as I have a chance. If the recommended fix (by the package maintainer even) is to switch from lpr to lprng, shouldn't lpr be switched out of Standard and lprng moved from Optional into Standard? I just happen to be having some problems setting up lpr as well. I think I'll switch to lprng before spending any more time. Scott Carlos -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: x windows
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 13:26:20 PST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: x windows Hello, well i got 1.2.2 installed and i was wondering about x windows, could anyone tell me how much disk space i will need to run this. i have an old 386 with 4m ran and 20mb of swap space. looking forward to hearing from you. allan Hi Allen, Well, I just went through a complete intall because I only had about 200Megs for a primary partition, then I added another 50Megs in desperation and hung the /home off of it. It just wasn't enough, I was running near 90-97% full on my / partition. Not good I've learned for file fragmentation. Now, I've compressed that damn Windoze stuff, and I have a comfy 450Meg with x windows, and all of the packages I've been dying to try. I've even tried wine with xwindows and am quite impressed with its abilities. I don't think I'd try xwin with less than say 300, 400 is better and of course, (if your budget allows)700 or more would probably do a single user machine for some time. Hope this helps. Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
On 1 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig writes: IT IS NOT DIFFICULT AT ALL TO GET PPP WORKING ON DEBIAN. More generally, it is not difficult at all to get PPP working on any of the Linux distributions I've worked with. It is not difficult for you or me to get PPP working. It *is* difficult for many people. There is a real problem, and saying over and over It isn't hard for me is no solution. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. An interesting and thoughtful response. I'll admit that the only reason I got ppp working with slack is because I copied out of a how-to. When I switched to Debian, I quickly looked at pon, but soon went back to ppp-on which worked. I've started over, and just can't get pon to work. Not as easily as ppp-on anyway. I've tried dunc, didn't seem to work. I saw in the newsgroups a new proggy which runs under x which claims to help set up ppp. I'm not at my box at the moment, but if anyone is interested I'll get the url. Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 Server
What is the lastest version of the POP3 Mail Server software. I seem to be getting reports from users who say they have 'Remove Mail from the Server' selected so that when a mail download completes to their mail reader it should remove it, but it does not. Almost every single problem report comes from users running Netscape Mail or Microsoft Mail. The problem seems to point to the mail reader, because when they switch to pegasus or eudora the problem goes away. BUT, just in case it is a POP3 Server probelm.. I'd like to upgrade think the lataset version of the qpopper package is 2.2. It works wells with Netscape Mail and should work well with Internet Explorer as well, and with Remove Mail from the Server selected. Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323
xemacs and c++ //-type comments
The c++ mode in xemacs does not appear to recognize the double-slash comments in c++ code (these comments start with // and end at the following new-line -- like the '#' comment character in ksh scripts). Does anyone know if there is a patch or modification for the c++ mode so that it will recognize these comments (i.e. for the file /usr/lib/xemacs-19.14/lisp/modes/cc-mode.el) ? Thanks. -- Harmon
Re: Free Publicity from the RSA Data Security Challenge
Yep, it's 2056. In fact I set plug-gw up on www.debian.org and assigned it a new IP address so it could be canonical, only to find that the protocol is changing to an undocumented UDP-based system for no good reason. See http://zero.genx.net. Anyone have ideas about what how to handle that? The message they had said there would be both new binaries _and_ proxies made available. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell
Re: mailcap error
I get the following message when I install packages like xanim, imagemagic, etc: Error: '/etc/mailcap' is not in required format What is wrong? In order for mime-support to work, it requires a specific format of the mailcap file. I suggest you re-install mime-support and make sure the distributed /etc/mailcap file gets put into place. I'll make that error message a little more informative. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
wu-ftpd
I'm trying to set up ftpd. The man pages suggest wu-ftpd, so that's what I'm using. I've gone down the wu man page and set my server up according to it's recomendation. The only problem I'm having is with anonymous users and ls. When I connect using loopback, login using anonymous and try ls, I get no output. Only the following shows up: ftp ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. 226 Transfer complete. ftp this should show the the pub sub-dir at least. Accounts that I have setup for testing purposes and existing accounts seem to work. Should I have removed the crypted password from /etc/passwd? I do have a copy of passwd and group in /home/ftp/etc without passwords in them. ls has also been copied to /home/ftp/bin, as suggested by man wu-ftpd. If I know the filename beforehand, I can upload and download as expected. I just seems that ls doesn't work. Any clues? Thanks Time is the best teacher, unfortunately it kills all of it's students Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] N9NPU
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, John Goerzen wrote: This is *not* an acceptable fix. Other packages, for isntance Samba, will **NOT** work with lprng. Doesn't getting rid of name canonizing in lpr work? Just get the source of an older version of lpr or unpatch the current sources or get an older lpr binary and it should work. Does this break lpr over network? Perhaps someone just needs to get the lpr source code and do debugging on it... Will
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, John Goerzen wrote: This is *not* an acceptable fix. Other packages, for isntance Samba, will **NOT** work with lprng. This is nice to know Sounds like the thing to do is work on lpr to get it working. Besides, I am running into as many problems getting lprng to work as I was lpr. But, I think the lpr problems might be easier to track down Can anyone tell me what the differences are between lpr and lprng. In what ways has lprng been ``enhanced and extended'', to quote the package description. Scott On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much Deleted. The real fix seems to go to lprng. That's the official position of the maintainer as well, as stated in a msg. to this list last year. I'll do it as soon as I have a chance. If the recommended fix (by the package maintainer even) is to switch from lpr to lprng, shouldn't lpr be switched out of Standard and lprng moved from Optional into Standard? I just happen to be having some problems setting up lpr as well. I think I'll switch to lprng before spending any more time. Scott Carlos -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
RE: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
I'd like to say the getting PPP up and running was a breeze. Took about an hour. (1 hour because I had to install hardware, and track down a priviledge level issue on a cuaX.) The actual ppp stuff took abount 10-15 minutes. Dial out with dynamic ip I don't see what all the whining is about. regards, In the dark. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 1997 9:22 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?! Craig writes: IT IS NOT DIFFICULT AT ALL TO GET PPP WORKING ON DEBIAN. More generally, it is not difficult at all to get PPP working on any of the Linux distributions I've worked with. It is not difficult for you or me to get PPP working. It *is* difficult for many people. There is a real problem, and saying over and over It isn't hard for me is no solution. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: teTeX kind of broken
Putting the instructions in preinst may be too late, but it is better than nothing. Instructions in the mailing list are insufficient considering the number of users installing tetex. Christoph Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marcelo Magallon writes: On 28 Feb 1997, Christoph Martin wrote: The obvious solution is to remove all TeX files conflicting with teTeX before installing teTeX, but this is not user friendly, nice, cool, etc. You have no other chance. dpkg can't handle all (more than one) the replaces. Then, to the maintainer, PLEASE, include instructions about this unless we want to see the question How do I upgrade TeX? n+1 times on debian-user... I'm guessing something in the lines of In dselect [R]emove packages *first*, *then* [I]nstall them would work, but a bit more Where do you want to put these instructions? I have posted instructions to debian-user and debian-devel. If you put it in the preinst script it is to late. descriptive/less cryptic. Also, isn't there a workaround for the latex bug? I wouldn't like to see that question either, considering THERE IS a known solution. The only solution I know is to do it in the right order, but how do you enforce this? -- Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Richard Morin wrote: how-to. When I switched to Debian, I quickly looked at pon, but soon went back to ppp-on which worked. I've started over, and just can't get pon to work. Not as easily as ppp-on anyway. What?!? That mess (ppp-on) is easier than pon? Here's what it took for me to set up ppp 1) cat /usr/bin/pon Looked at it, saw it uses /etc/ppp.chatscript. 2) vi /etc/ppp.chatscript plopped in the phone number, username, password 3) pon Shouldn't take more than a minute and a half... Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not| and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
John Goerzen writes: This is *not* an acceptable fix. Other packages, for isntance Samba, will **NOT** work with lprng. Why won't samba not work with it? Please file an appropriate bug against the samba package. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Re: Writing to a boot floppy.
Try make-kpkg -r=custom.1.0 kernel_image in /usr/src/linux, assuming that you have kernel-package installed. You may need a preformatted disk, depending upon the current state of kernel-package. After you create the official debian package, then install the package as usual dpkg -i kernel-image-2.0.27_custom.1.0_i386.deb or whatever you produce. Bubonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recompiled my kernel today (without any major problems) to 2.027, however, I can't seem to figure out how to create a new boot floppy. I have tried: cp vmlinux /dev/fd0 to a DOS-formatted disk, but when I tried to reboot my computer, it didn't work. I assume that I am missing or forgetting something, but the books that I have and the FAQS and HOWTO's I have read have very little information on this. They tend to deal more with LILO, as opposed to booting off of a floppy. I may not be even understanding the purpose of the boot floppy correctly, as I am somewhat of a newbie to LINUX, do I need to alter my boot floopy when I recompile the kernel? or change the kernel for that matter? -- Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphics file converter(s) (Like xv)
Stan Brown said: I am looking for a general puropose conversion program for graphich formats. What I would really like would be sonething like xv that could be run ono interactivley by the lp interface script. Ultimetly II need the fiel is PCL3, but I have ghostscript converting from postscript already, so something that can ouptup postscript would work. The imagemagick package includes many utilities that can be used from the command line to convert images from one format to another. Also, the netpbm package (in non-free) has 300 command line utilities for image conversion. (Imagemagick is to be preferred, if it does what you want, since it is still being actively developed.) Good luck, Susan Kleinmann
Re: xemacs and c++ //-type comments
[Please don't Cc me when replying to messages on the list] Harmon, On Sat, Mar 1 1997, root (you?) wrote: The c++ mode in xemacs does not appear to recognize the double-slash comments in c++ code (these comments start with // and end at the following new-line -- like the '#' comment character in ksh scripts). Works fine for me in C++ mode. AFAIK //-comments are illegal in ANSI C and Xemacs only helps you to adhere to that standard when it's buffer is in C-mode. Does anyone know if there is a patch or modification for the c++ mode so that it will recognize these comments (i.e. for the file /usr/lib/xemacs-19.14/lisp/modes/cc-mode.el) ? If your files are C++ source (e.g. class decls in .h files) put a line // -*- mode: C++ -*- at the top of your file to put the buffer into C++ major mode. -- Siggy -- Siggy Brentrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = C8 95 66 8C 75 7E 10 A2 05 61 C7 7F 05 B6 A4 DF
Mail list problems??
Every time I post to the debian user mail list I am getting 5-10 error messages saying the mail could not be delivered. Although, I do get a copy of the mail sent back to me from the list. I am wondering if this is related to the problems with the mail list, or if I am the only one getting these errors Scott
Re: x windows
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Richard Morin wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well i got 1.2.2 installed and i was wondering about x windows, could anyone tell me how much disk space i will need to run this. i have an old 386 with 4m ran and 20mb of swap space. less than say 300, 400 is better and of course, (if your budget allows)700 or more would probably do a single user machine for some time. I have a 386 too, running with about 250 MB of hard disk. I think 250 is fine, if you don't want to use every single program. I have netscape, all the common stuff you might want for internet, gcc, the basics, but nothing flashy like wine. And I have about 50 megs free. So it depends on what you want to do. Avoid big stuff like emacs when possible. I think the memory is more important. 4MB runs fvwm and rxvt fine, but don't even think about running netscape. The extra 4MB will only cost you about $30 probably and will make a huge difference. Of course, I only run a mono server - even the vga16 server is extremely slow on my machine (you can see it redraw). I think that might depend more on your video card than anything else though. Havoc Pennington
RE: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
I agree! This is getting pretty boring, with all the silly ranting and raving. For Pete's sake, the Debian guys didn't create PPP in the first place! Take it to those that did, if you're really that stuck! It's really not so damn difficult to be honest, but the first time or two it might seem daunting. I mean c'mon, what do you think the rest of us are using to get to the net? Good grief, this thread has been a marathon already! Almost as bad as all the grief thrown at Bruce lately over the publicity thing, or the mess about some damn contest or other..gezzz! I don't see what all the whining is about. Paul It is not difficult for you or me to get PPP working. It *is* difficult for many people. There is a real problem, and saying over and over It isn't hard for me is no solution. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
gimp troublees
Hi. I am having a little trouble with gimp. I have installed gimp 0.54.1-5 and gimp-plugins 1.0-1. My problem is that I can't figure out how to access the menus/pluging that are defined in my config files. I have copied /etc/gimp/gimprc to ~/.gimprc and have verified that it and /etc/gimp/add-ons.rc and /etc/gimp/plug-ins.rc *are* getting parsed. However, I see no menus or menu options to access these plugins. For example, the blur plugin is supposed to be under a Blur/Blur menu with a Alt+B hotkey. The ALt+B hotkey works fine, but I can find no other way to access the blur plugin. I am using all the default config files from gimp and gimp-plugins. I must be makeing some simple mistake since many people love this program. I'd love to be able to love it too. Any help would be appreciated, Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/
Re: teTeX kind of broken
On 1 Mar 1997, Kevin Dalley wrote: Putting the instructions in preinst may be too late, but it is better than nothing. Instructions in the mailing list are insufficient considering the number of users installing tetex. Christoph Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marcelo Magallon writes: On 28 Feb 1997, Christoph Martin wrote: The obvious solution is to remove all TeX files conflicting with teTeX before installing teTeX, but this is not user friendly, nice, cool, etc. You have no other chance. dpkg can't handle all (more than one) the replaces. Then, to the maintainer, PLEASE, include instructions about this unless we want to see the question How do I upgrade TeX? n+1 times on debian-user... I'm guessing something in the lines of In dselect [R]emove packages *first*, *then* [I]nstall them would work, but a bit more Where do you want to put these instructions? I have posted instructions to debian-user and debian-devel. If you put it in the preinst script it is to late. Sounds like dpkg is screaming out for a pre/post unpack script. That would at least partially solve some of the tex problems, the preunpack script could run dpkg --purge before it started. Thoughts? Jason
Re: xemacs and c++ //-type comments
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, root wrote: The c++ mode in xemacs does not appear to recognize the double-slash comments in c++ code (these comments start with // and end at the following new-line -- like the '#' comment character in ksh scripts). Yes it does, my 19.14 emacs seems to understand these comments fine. I'm not sure what you're doing. RTFM and check your settings, I've used 19.14 on both Solaris and Linux without problem with // commenting. Did you turn color on? Have you verified that you haven't made any changes to the standard .el files? If all else fails try to get the source and see if you can get the .el files from there (who knows, the Debian distribution you got MAY have a bug...) Will
RE: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Peter Iannarelli wrote: I'd like to say the getting PPP up and running was a breeze. Took about an hour. (1 hour because I had to install hardware, and track down a priviledge level issue on a cuaX.) The actual ppp stuff took abount 10-15 minutes. Dial out with dynamic ip I don't see what all the whining is about. AHEM... Just because PPP works for you doesn't necessarily mean it works as easily for others. This is due to the fact that ISPs differ in how they establish PPP connections. You shouldn't assume that others have the same type of PPP setup as you do, as there are literrally hundreds of differing ISPs out there. I've helped a couple people install PPP on their Linux boxes, and it can vary from a no-brainer to a night in hell. What's the solution, you ask? Get PPP connections standardized. Will
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
Interesting, I find Debian Linux to be the most easiest PPP setup. All I have is the following # cat /etc/ppp.options_out /dev/modem 38400 204.97.69.153:204.97.64.1 defaultroute note the defaultroute at the end that's what tells pppd to setup the default route. -- Where's my spy camera?
