apology for mailing list mess-up
Sorry about today's mailing list mess-up. It started because of some confusion about the management reorganization (I am delegating most of the project management to two other people), and escalated into permissions being shut off, servers being moved, and a three-hour search for a broken configuration file. Hopefully it's all over now. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
debian install error
When i first initialise two brand new 4.5 gig IBM HD i get this error badblocks: cant resolve symbol 'llseek' writing inode tables: 256/265mkfs.ext2 cant resolve symbol 'llseek' ideas? suggestions? solutions? :) Michl, Any instrument when droped will always roll to the most inaccessible corner.
list service back at full performance
The list server is delivering messages at a good speed, and its problems appear to have been solved this time, so please go back to using it as you usually would. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Fresh Debian on UMSDOS?
Hello. Brian K Servis wrote: So the question is how can he install a fresh Debian to his DOS/VFAT internal using UMSDOS? By using my experimental Debian installation software. I would rather not make this generally available yet as there are some known problems to be ironed out and some of the extra features may be integrated into the standard disk sets in due course. Beside myself, I have a report of one mostly successful installation onto a SCSI ZIP drive with a DOS file system. If you would like to help with testing or just want to try it out then let me know by email and I will send details. You will need to download 9Mbyte of files. Giuliano Procida. A note on VFAT. The long file names used by Linux will be provided completely separately from those under Win95 which uses a different technique. Thus long file names on one system will be a mess on the other. There is apparently a UVFAT fs in progress which integrates the two better.
Re: Diskless install
Hi. Jason Gunthorpe wrote: I just installed Debian on my 486 and thought I'd try to do it without disks. I got as far as the point were it wanted to install the kernel, but couldn't go any further. Is there any reason why there is no drivers.tgz and perhaps kernel.tgz? There is actually a modules.tgz on the drivers floppy. However, the way things stand at present is that a script on the floppy is run that installs the modules. A similar comment applies to the kernel floppy except that the script installs the kernel and system map instead. [snip] The only things the Debian people could do to improve this is to put loadlin.exe on the ftp server and to modify the install so you don't need the two disks.. The boot-floppies package (which is used to create the boot disks) is rapidly moving toward allowing floppy images (loop mounts) on any medium to be used instead of actual floppies. It is not much further to add loadlin as you did and boot the kernel directly. I suppose things could be taken a stage further and the install could be without any reference to floppies but this might be at the expense of a more complicated and initially buggier install script. Maybe in the round after this one. I was also thinking that with a iso9660 fs driver in the kernel a CDROM install could be done with either 1 disk or none! Even if no cd driver was in the kernel, by copying the files above from the cd to the dos partition an install could still be accomplished. Exactly so. The ideal is to boot off CD ROM but this cannot be achieved in all cases; the next best thing is booting off a single floppy or via loadlin from the harddisk with all the other files available from some mountable medium (DOS, ZIP drive, nfs?, ...). Giuliano.
Re: color xterm
dpk wrote: is there a package for color xterms for debian? if so, does anyone know where it is? i have looked all over in the ftp site to find it with no luck. This has been asked recently. The color xterm package has been abandonned with XFree 3.2. All you have to do is to add the following line to you (global) Xdefaults. XTerm*customization: -color
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
CoB SysAdmin (Joe Emenaker) wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: 1. what do you expect for free? Well, one would expect at least a clean install... If people perceive Linux/Debian as being impossible to install, then, well, they won't use it :) Which is one of the points I've been trying to make. I work at a university and I see many, many students who hear about Debian and they take the time to come into our computer lab and make the 5-6 disks needed. They take them home and install them on their PC at home. Since they don't have a whole lot of time to go reading a bunch of HOWTO's or to go rooting around in the files of the base install *and* since they see no mention of ppp in the install program or install guide, they go for about 2-3 days of running Debian before they conclude that this isn't any fun at all (not being able to connect to the net) and we lose a potential user. On the other hand, I've talked to the few that *have* gotten PPP going with dselect and they are the most *jazzed* people you will ever meet. Using dselect through PPP is the most innovative software distribution concept they have ever seen. They are fascinated... and, more importantly, they are Debian users for life, pretty much. It's hard to explain. Dselect, when it *WORKS* (meaning, when there's a connection to the net active pretty much) and when the user *UNDERSTANDS* what the concept behind it is, I think that it is the SINGLE BEST selling point for Debian. But, when the user doesn't understand what the idea is behind it, they think Why the $^*^# did it stick me in *THIS* program. How do I kill it?, just like *I* used to do for about a year back in the 0.9-0.93R6 days. Now, as things seem to stand now, the ppp part seems like almost an after- thought (as far as its importance to the effective operation of dselect goes). The base install seems to be more targeted to people with: A) a live internet connection, B) Debian on CD, or C) The Debian distribution on another filesystem or NFS. However, like I mentioned, of the people I deal with each day, about 5% of the Debian newbies fall into that group. It seems appropriate to mention Occam's Razor at this point, y'know? - Joe UNSUBSCRIBE
Re: AWE32 problems.
Does anyone know if it is possible for a pnp sound card to configure without that package, on previous versions of debian? Funny thing is with deb 1.1 I was able to config my kernel for sound no problem. Even for your PnP board. It sounds strange for me that Debian 1.1 could manage PnP boards and 1.2 could not. Turns out I found out why my board was able to work and I have it sorta working again. My bios has support for pnp and initiates the card before boot. I remember something about disabling pnp in the bios, is it wrong to let it config this way? M/B is a Gigabyte GA586ATE, with Award bios, if anyone is curious. I can play CD's now, but when I try to use /dev/audio via saytime it fails, I saw something in the docs, I'll have to dig it out again. Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Out of Date Packages
Hi, What would be the recommended way to find out if someone is still actively maintaing a package? I few packages that I have upgraded myself haven't been released in the past several months to keep up with up-stream versions (Jed, Slang, Squid). Is there anyway to tell if a developer is still actively supporting a package? On another note, looking in the bug reports, slang's developer seems to be awake and is working on a new version. I have compiled my own copy here and installed with dpkg so I can compile the new jed, I gave it a version of 0.99.38-0.1, will dpkg safely purge my installed copy and update to 0.99.38-1 when it is released? BTW, Kudos to the dpkg ppl, it is actually pretty simple to upgrade to new upstream versions on your own, so long as the maintainer was carefull to make non-intrusive changes to the sources ; Thanks, Jason
Problem with 1.2 install and floppy
I'm running into problems with installing Debian 1.2 on a new laptop. I've created the various floppy disks, start the installation and get the following errors when I insert base14-1.bin: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0 floppy0: probe failed... The problem occurs when the installation scripts tries to excecute the following command: mount -ro -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy The floppy clearly worked fine reading the first two disks. Any ideas? --- Jean Pierre
InterSoft Essentia Users?
Has anyone out there gotten Essentia running under a Debian installation? I am stumped. Ean Schuessler Director of New Products and Technologies Novare International Inc. The Unstoppable Fist of Digital Action
Re: Using SOCKS server
Did you try passive mode? On Mar 4, Matt Lawrence wrote: Is there any way to run dselect via ftp through a SOCKS server? I have T1 access from work, but I'm behind a firewall. -- Matt -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: /etc/alternatives -- Why?
On Mar 4, Scott Stanley wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Dominik Kubla wrote: It seems like anyone who is running their system with /usr as a CD-ROM is probably not looking for options or configurability. They just want a basic system to play with and try before stepping all the way into an installation. It would seem like the creater of the CD should just place a ``basic'' system on the CD without alot of different flavors of commands. But you are leaving out one very important situation: NFS. There are a good number of people that have /usr mounted over NFS in read-only mode. Most people don't have /etc mounted over NFS. This allows each individual machine to be configured as the admin likes it, without messing up configurations on other machines. Nifty, eh? The /etc/alternatives seems like it just adds one more file to the configuration which might increase the confusion of someone trying to learn the system. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
make config, [486] or [586]
I have a AMD586-133 chip whose architecture more resembles an enchanced 486 cpu rather than a pentium. In terms of performence, is it better to compile with the [486] or the [586] parameter during make config? Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida Signed pgp-key on key server.
Netatalk breaking
Hi all! I hope someone can give me a clue here, for I'm really stumped. I'm running the most recent files from the unstable directory (except for bash--I've still got 1.14.7-2), and am suddenly not able to run the appletalk printing services. Printing used to work beautifully, and now it doesn't (the printer no longer appears in the chooser), and the owners of the macs who used to use my printer are very unhappy! During boot, /etc/init.d/netatalk gives the messages: Mar 3 14:49:03 npreyer papd[185]: restart (1.4b2) Mar 3 14:49:03 npreyer papd[185]: atp_open: Invalid argument and from /var/log/daemon.log: Mar 3 14:49:04 npreyer afpd[187]: main: atp_open: Invalid argument I have not modified /etc/atalkd.conf (i.e., it is just a commented-out line). So far as I can tell, none of the recently updated files should have any effect on this, but evidently something is. Any help would be greatly appreciated! BTW--papd used to be incompatible with lprng; has that changed?? Thanks! --Norris -- Norris Preyer (541) 962-3310 (office) Physics Program (541) 962-3873 (fax) Eastern Oregon State College[EMAIL PROTECTED] La Grande, OR 97850http://140.211.64.20/npreyer.html
Re: Documentation - I see squares
The more(1) pager produces correct results when 8-bit characters are send to the screen. The less(1) pager fails to do so with its default configuration: I used setenv LESSCHARSET latin1 to get around this problem. Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida Signed pgp-key on key server.
RE: make config, [486] or [586]
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help
hi i just tried 2 boot up my debian linux partition and i got this. first of all it begins 2 load the first half of the kernel and then i get this error no matter if i boot from a floppy ar from my hard drive.HELP PLEASE Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer defernce at virtual address c4e0 current-tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3=00101000 *pde=00102067 *pte=0027 Oops: CPU: 0 EIP: 2048: [C68d] EFLAGS: 00010046 eax: 530 ebx:01ff ecx:80ff edx: esi:9fdc edi: ebp:040a esp:9f20 ds:2050 es: fs: gs: ss:0018 Process swapper(PID:1, process n:1, stackpage=9000) stack: c595, 0001, 530.and lot's of #'s Call Trace: [001732af] [00110018] and more #'s Code: a0 e0 00 c3 e1 00 c3 a1 e2 00 c3 00 c8 02 00 00 57 56 33 Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2 and then it freezes and nothing happens after that? is there any way can salvage this? maybe if i set up a linux partition on a separate hard drive do u think i'll b able to access this one? thank u dOn Guelich
Re: getty
Hamish Moffatt writes: On Mar 03, 1997 at 09:17:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, what's the difference between mgetty and vgetty? (aside from the spelling) I tried vgetty --help and it reported mgetty FATAL. vgetty has voice extensions. I wish I knew how to set them up though. I agree, there is no documentation, no manpage, no infopage. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.2 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK - member of ARRL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
help
hi i just tried 2 boot up my debian linux partition and i got this. first of all it begins 2 load the first half of the kernel and then i get this error no matter if i boot from a floppy ar from my hard drive.HELP PLEASE Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer defernce at virtual address c4e0 current-tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3=00101000 *pde=00102067 *pte=0027 Oops: CPU: 0 EIP: 2048: [C68d] EFLAGS: 00010046 eax: 530 ebx:01ff ecx:80ff edx: esi:9fdc edi: ebp:040a esp:9f20 ds:2050 es: fs: gs: ss:0018 Process swapper(PID:1, process n:1, stackpage=9000) stack: c595, 0001, 530.and lot's of #'s Call Trace: [001732af] [00110018] and more #'s Code: a0 e0 00 c3 e1 00 c3 a1 e2 00 c3 00 c8 02 00 00 57 56 33 Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2 and then it freezes and nothing happens after that? is there any way i can salvage this? maybe if i set up a linux partition on a separate hard drive do u think i'll b able to access this one? thank u dOn Guelich
Re: debian install error
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Solomani wrote: When i first initialise two brand new 4.5 gig IBM HD i get this error badblocks: cant resolve symbol 'llseek' writing inode tables: 256/265mkfs.ext2 cant resolve symbol 'llseek' ideas? suggestions? solutions? hmmm. that's an old problem...haven't seen it for a while. you must be running on an old kernel and/or old libc - what versions are you running? anyway, the reason for the problem is that until fairly recently (6 months or less - i can't remember exactly) the kernel was limited to approx 2gb filesystems. This limit is gone now. try upgrading your system - at least the kernel, libc5, e2fsprogs and any other packages which these may be dependant upon. if you really don't want to do this, then you can still format the disks with multiple 2gb partitions. I just saw the subject line again - if you're in the middle of installing debian for the first time (how old is the floppy/CD set you're installing from? - where did you get it from?), then you have a few choices: 1. download the latest install disks from ftp.debian.org (or a mirror near you) and use them to install with. they will be at least kernel 2.0.27, so should be able to format large disks. 2. partition ONE of your drives so that /, /usr, /home, /var, /tmp etc are on separate partitions and take less than 2gb each. install debian onto this setup. when you have debian installed, then upgrade the kernel etc as mentioned above, and when you've rebooted with a newer kernel you should be able to format the second 4.5GB drive as a single partition. craig (there's more than one way to do just about anything :-)
NIS documentation wrong?
Hi. It the nis documentation it says I can + and - users in the passwd file (I take it that it should be on the fly and it used to work with debian 0.93 in this case...) - however I can't seem to do this. The following two lines are in my /etc/passwd file: +::/bin/bash -karl However, here's a finer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:p1:~] finger karl Login: karl Name: Directory: /home/time Shell: /bin/bash Never logged in. No mail. No Plan. This shouldn't be the case, should it? Can someone tell me what I'm supposidly doing wrong? Regards -- ___ Karl Ferguson, Tower Networking Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] t/a STAR Online Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +61-9-455-3446 Fax: +61-9-455-2776 http://www.star.net.au ___
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
Nils == Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nils On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote: lprng has removed the possibility to automatically remove Files after printing. This is however necessary to remove spooled jobs. How do you work around this problem? I'm not sure what you mean. Files in the lprng spool directories do get automatically deleted after printing...so you must be talking about something else. Nils I must confess that it was long ago I tried to set up printing Nils from Windows clients with samba. It worked by copying the Nils to-be-printed files to /tmp on unix and issuing a lpr Nils command. I then was puzzled about the many big files in /tmp Nils with strange names until I got the idea to add a -r switch to Nils the lpr command to remove files after printing. It worked from Nils then on and I never tried to setup anything and only remembered Nils that the -r switch was vital for operation with samba. The latest lprng ignores this switch and the -s (symlink) switch, but accepts them now. Too many people were having problems with stupid programs (including the Oracle database) that made bad requests (and couldn't be set to do anything else) to the printer subsystem. -r isn't used because lprng is completely network based. (i.e. even on a local machine the file will not just be copied from a location on disk). This is a security feature. -s is similar. Ahh another note. One fo LPRng's `features' is a much heightened security over the basic lpr. More informative output from lpq requests. Easier running modification of the daemon. Better support for filters. (I switched a bunch of machines over from different printing systems lp, lpr based. The users were a little thrown off by the different output format, but it made dealing with the printers from machine to machine much easier). Jim -- @James LewisMoss | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Blessed Be! @http://www.cs.sc.edu/~moss | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Linux is cool! @Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours. Bach
Re: NIS documentation wrong?
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote: Hi. It the nis documentation it says I can + and - users in the passwd file (I take it that it should be on the fly and it used to work with debian 0.93 in this case...) - however I can't seem to do this. The following two lines are in my /etc/passwd file: +::/bin/bash -karl [...] You must reverse the lines. The pw routines will stop when a name is found, so -karl is useless when there is a + preceding it. Greetings, Swen
Re: Holding Freeze for Shadow
Do you need tester reports? I've been using the shadow package for a month or so, and everything seems to work fine. I'm not the best test case, since it's a one-man machine, but it does work. :-) I think the install process should fix up an /etc/alternatives link to xdm-shadow, shouldn't it? Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t
Re: Problems with FVWM-2
Brian == Brian C White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian I upgraded to fvwm2 today and ran into a few problems. Brian Some of these may be worthy of bug reports, but I thought [...] Brian - The FvwmPager does not have the correct aspect ration. Brian Each of the virtual screens is a long and narrow rectangle Brian instead of a square. The horizontal scale seems to be Brian about 3/4 of what it was under fvwm1. I have no reference Brian to compare the vertical scale. I've added a ~/.fvwm2/FvwmPager.hook to my configurations; it gets Read from the ~/.fvwm2/Post.hook; maybe it could go in a better place, but for now it works fine. Rows and Columns mattered, I found. I had it set to 4 rows and 4 desktops, with DesktopSize at 2 3, then switched to DesktopSize 2 10, and it squished them all into the top quarter of the pager. Setting it to 1 row fixed it. (reminds me of HTML tables or Tk pack.) It looks like this: *FvwmPagerGeometry =190x665-0+0 DesktopSize 2 10 *FvwmPagerRows 1 *FvwmPagerColumns 1 *FvwmPagerFont none *FvwmPagerSmallFont 5x7 *FvwmPagerLabel 0 BitterSweet *FvwmPagerDeskColor 0 Linen Style FvwmPager Sticky,NoHandles,NoTitle,BorderWidth 3,WindowListSkip Module FvwmPager 0 0 EdgeScroll 10 10 EdgeResistance 0 150 There is enough room left to run xconsole at the bottom of my screen, (1024x768), with: XConsole*background: grey80 XConsole*foreground: darkblue XConsole*geometry: =934x100-0-0 ...in my ~/.Xresources file. The fvwm2 init function runs 'xv -root -quit background.jpeg' to set a background, which is a .jpeg horizontal strip, a greyish white with a darker band (~grey80) on the left edge, where my default iconbox is. I've got the TkDesk appbar at the top of my screen, with all of it's icons landing sticky right underneath it. Netscape icons line up by the pager, and XEmacs live-icon's go just above the Xconsole window toward the bottom of my screen. TkMan's icon is sticky too... it follows me around wherever I go. I made the 'books' button on TkDesk's appbar do a tkman remote of [selection get], so I can highlight anything and get it's manual that way. I need to read more of them; and am looking forward to it. The 'tclhelp' is how I found how to do that. It took only a few minutes to find out how. I had a good time learning what I know about configuring the X server; there is a lot more to know too, I'm certain. The manual says that M4 can be used to make a configuration file that changes depending on the resolution of the screen. I guess that's what an installed default should do. I plan to read the m4 manual at some point; I am learning perl now, and will try and look into what it would take to make a configuration program... It's a long way off though. I've a pile of books next to me. (I'm not volunteering to do the WM config for Debian; I'm not ready to try that sort of thing yet.) Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t
Was: AWE32 problems. Now jubilation!
On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Richard Morin wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible for a pnp sound card to configure without that package, on previous versions of debian? Funny thing is with deb 1.1 I was able to config my kernel for sound no problem. Even for your PnP board. It sounds strange for me that Debian 1.1 could manage PnP boards and 1.2 could not. Turns out I found out why my board was able to work and I have it sorta working again. My bios has support for pnp and initiates the card before boot. I remember something about disabling pnp in the bios, is it wrong to let it config this way? M/B is a Gigabyte GA586ATE, with Award bios, if anyone is curious. I can play CD's now, but when I try to use /dev/audio via saytime it fails, I saw something in the docs, I'll have to dig it out again. Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hate to keep following up my own posts, but I feel so damn good I must share my hapiness. Ya! I've got diald up and running, and all my kernel woes are behind me. (Screw pon, I still didn't get it to work) It took a bit, ok a lot of reading, but I finally got things fixed up. I had to remove the modules package, re-compile my kernel a few times, (got bitten by a bad floppy) and then re-write the stock connect script that comes with diald, but it works and I couldn't be happier that I did it myself...:-) Little bit of tuning to do yet, but that is the fun stuff, for me anyways. For my pnp sound card, I got the config it uses in win95, then made sure that those options were in my .config file in /usr/src/linuxbefore I did my make dep, make clean, make zdisk, make modules, make modules_install. Reboot and lo and bohold my /dev/audio works now. I can play squake to alleviate my frustrations now... Have to read more about the Debian way to do kernels when I have more time. For now, this works great. Thanks for being patient with me folks... Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIS documentation wrong?
At 09:56 AM 3/5/97 +0100, Swen Thuemmler wrote: You must reverse the lines. The pw routines will stop when a name is found, so -karl is useless when there is a + preceding it. Perhaps I should've pointed this out - that was one of the first things I tried. So now I have: -karl +::/bin/bash in my passwd file and I can still finger myself no problems. On a related matter - even though I followed the directions exactly in the /usr/doc/nis directory to install nis, it give me errors when running make in /var/yp - eg: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:p2:/var/yp] make NIS Map update started on Wed Mar 5 18:00:02 WST 1997 make[1]: Entering directory `/var/yp/tower.net.au' make[1]: `ypservers' is up to date. make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/yp/tower.net.au' make[1]: Entering directory `/var/yp/tower.net.au' Updating passwd.byname... Could not read ypservers: 3 Can't bind to server which serves this domain Pushed passwd.byname map. Updating passwd.byuid... Could not read ypservers: 3 Can't bind to server which serves this domain Pushed passwd.byuid map. Updating netid.byname... Could not read ypservers: 3 Can't bind to server which serves this domain Pushed netid.byname map. make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/yp/tower.net.au' NIS Map update completed. This however does work fine and it does get to the slave. -- ___ Karl Ferguson, Tower Networking Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] t/a STAR Online Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +61-9-455-3446 Fax: +61-9-455-2776 http://www.star.net.au ___
Access to NFS-server
Hallo, because of a lack of diskspace I want to use another computer (HP-Workstation) as NFS-server. So I installed the base disks of debian and wanted to move /usr to the NFS server by tar -cf usr.tar /usr and tar -xf usr.tar in the approriate directory of the server mounted via NFS. But I got: tar: Cannot change mode of file ... to 644/755: Operation not permitted for each file which is untared. The files exists after this mess of errormessages and have the right rights but the owner is root (the root of the server) and so rm -r usr ends with rm: ... : Permisssion denied. OK, the reason is that the information in /etc/exports of the NFS-Server is not correct. I played around with several combinations of /usr/local/linux -access=my.pc /usr/local/linux -access=my.pc,root=my.pc /usr/local/linux -rw=my.pc ... Please don't ask me what ever I tried but nothing helped. Yes I did not forget to call exportfs -a after every change in /etc/exports. Is anybody out there who knows the right way to setup the server correctly Any help appreciatet Andreas.
/etc/alternatives -- How?
How do you manage links in /etc/alternatives (ie. what's the recommended way)? Would you establish the links by hand or run the postinst of the desired package or do something else? I'd like to switch from nvi to vim... Thanks, Ulf
Help: Netscape and .gz files
Can anyone help me set up my Netscape so it will gunzip .gz files again? I've no clue what to type in the 'helpers' configuration to get it to do that. TIA Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t
Re: Problem with 1.2 install and floppy
This is a common problem. Try making another copy of base14-1 (and the others if thaey fail) on a different floppy disk. I had to make two or three before I got a complete set of boot floppies that were reliable. Even floppies that I had used to install debian on my desktop system wouldn't necessarily work to install on my laptop. Kinda strange. --Bob Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: I'm running into problems with installing Debian 1.2 on a new laptop. I've created the various floppy disks, start the installation and get the following errors when I insert base14-1.bin: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0 floppy0: probe failed... The problem occurs when the installation scripts tries to excecute the following command: mount -ro -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy The floppy clearly worked fine reading the first two disks. Any ideas? --- Jean Pierre
Re: pppd keep-alive cron script (was Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!)
On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Steve wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Jason Costomiris wrote: I run myown scripts for ppp not the pon. be that as it may.. all thats needed here is to make a script that greps for ppp / pon .. whatever. set this on a cron and bang! if the connection drops, your check script, run at intervals set via cron, sees it down and restarts it. This is what I use to keep my PPP link up. I have it in my /etc/cron.minutely directory (same idea as the other cron.*ly dirs). It uses two seperate tests to see if pppd is running. I've found that under some conditions, one test or the other can fail, but the two tests together seems to work very well. Why don't you let init do this job? Starting pppd form inittab with a line like: S1:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/pppd -detach ttyS1 will start a new connection as soon as the old one dies. If you add lcp-echo-interval 10 lcp-echo-failure 3 pppd will terminate securely when the other end does not answer any more. Nils -- \ /| Nils Rennebarth --* WINDOWS 42 *-- | Schillerstr. 61 / \| 37083 Göttingen | ++49-551-71626 Micro$oft's final answer | http://www.nus.de/~nils
Re: Access to NFS-server
Andreas Tille wrote: Hallo, because of a lack of diskspace I want to use another computer (HP-Workstation) as NFS-server. So I installed the base disks of debian and wanted to move /usr to the NFS server by tar -cf usr.tar /usr and tar -xf usr.tar in the approriate directory of the server mounted via NFS. But I got: tar: Cannot change mode of file ... to 644/755: Operation not permitted for each file which is untared. The files exists after this mess of errormessages and have the right rights but the owner is root (the root of the server) and so rm -r usr ends with rm: ... : Permisssion denied. OK, the reason is that the information in /etc/exports of the NFS-Server is not correct. I played around with several combinations of /usr/local/linux -access=my.pc /usr/local/linux -access=my.pc,root=my.pc /usr/local/linux -rw=my.pc Please don't ask me what ever I tried but nothing helped. Yes I did not forget to call exportfs -a after every change in /etc/exports. Is anybody out there who knows the right way to setup the server correctly Any help appreciatet Andreas. I think what you need is an entry in root's .rhosts file on the server machine. Login as root on the server and add my.pc to the .rhosts file in root's home directory. If the file doesn't exist, create it. Make sure you chmod 0600 so others cannot change the file. You may want to do the converse on my.pc to allow the root user on the server to be equivalent to root on my.pc. An alternate way to transfer the files to the server while logged in as root on the server is: cd target_directory_on_server rsh my.pc cd /usr; tar cf - . | tar xf - --Bob
XFree86 3.2 performance problem ?
Hi! Has anyone else noticed that, since the upgrade to 3.2, X seems to be slower ? I have a P120 with 48 Mb and a Stealth64 Video 2000 (S3) with 2Mb DRAM. I use 1024x768 with 16 bpp. After the upgrade I noticed that my WM (AfterStep) took about 2-3 seconds more to load and the window drawing is also a bit slower. I didn't think about it though, but yesterday I started xbmbrowser in a directory where I keep a lot of pixmaps (800+). It took forever to load so I killed it after about 10 minutes. Top showed that the XServer consumed 85-95 % of the CPU load. After that, I reinstalled my old S3 server (3.1.2 from Debian 1.1) and the problems mentioned above disappeared. Has anoyone had a similar experience ? Thanks in advance Robert -- Robert Sickeldalemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frontec Network Services AB (All statements above are my own, not my employers.) --
PPP
Just to add to the pppd confusion, I start my pppd with the basic pon command, now, I think its my ISP but not sure, sometimes when running my ISP seems to break ppp, although it doesnt disconnect the modem.. My pppd detects this and tries to *redial* using the chatscript, when it doesnt need to, all that needs to happen is run pppd again, and the ppp connection comes back up... I could be wrong with all this, is it my end thats breaking the connection? I sometimes think that it is due to the fact that the remote end seems willing enuf to restart.. Who's/what end is at fault and how can it be remedied? Some said to me thats coz its running passive mode, but its not... I am stumped... -- Silicon Graphics and Sun Worksation Giveaway Check out -- http://www.squirrel.com.au For more information. Living is just a state of mind... The Lord Bhaal...
problems with posting in exmh
Many thanks to all those people who sent me suggestions about my libg++ problems I must have been blind at the time not to have seen the problem.] I now have a new problem. After a file corruption which did nasty things to my /etc directory I can now not post anything using exmh and get the following error. post: problem initializing server; [BHST] no servers available send: message not delivered to anyone Pine works fine. Any suggestions. Joe. === in real life: Joseph Skinner |There's no such thing as a wizard email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |who minds his own business [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Berengis the Black http: www.earthlight.co.nz/users/joe| Court Mage to the Earls Caeline
xt?
Can debian Linux run on an xt? If not is there another linux that can run on an xt? a http: link in the right direction would be appreciated.
Dos Linux
How can I download .tar and .gz compressed files on a Dos system copy them over to my linux system and uncompress them? Is the uncompression built into unix? Also can I interlink my Linux and my Dos system? (my modem is on my Dos system).
RE: Dos Linux
-- De :David Stein[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date d'envoi : mercredi 5 mars 1997 11:52 A : debian-user Objet : Dos Linux How can I download .tar and .gz compressed files on a Dos system copy them over to my linux system and uncompress them? Is the uncompression built into unix? Also can I interlink my Linux and my Dos system? (my modem is on my Dos system). If you have dos and linux on the same computer, mount your dos partition (something like mount /dev/hda1 /mnt with some parameters which can be checked with a man mount command). Here, /dev/hda1 is your dos C: partition. Then, any binary file within the dos partition can be *read* by linux. It works with any binary data file (bmp, tar.gz files). JPL --:-) Jean-Paul Lacharme. GREQAM UMR 6579 au CNRS Centre de la Vieille Charite. 2, rue de la Charite. 13002 Marseille. FRANCE Tel.: 0491140731/Fax:0491900227
Re: xt?
David Stein wrote: Can debian Linux run on an xt? If not is there another linux that can run on an xt? a http: link in the right direction would be appreciated. The minimum Linux requirement is a 386. If you have some kind of upgrade chip/package to allow the XT to use a 386, then yes. Else, no. I believe one reason is its a 32-bit PROTECTED mode OS. I don't believe that the 286 chip has that feature available. Debian is just an install tool for getting Linux and applications installed and configured. (Of course we'll all tell you its great.) Enjoy -- Greg.
Re: Dos Linux
David Stein wrote: How can I download .tar and .gz compressed files on a Dos system copy them over to my linux system and uncompress them? Is the uncompression built into unix? Also can I interlink my Linux and my Dos system? (my modem is on my Dos system). tar (Tape ARchive) and gzip/gunzip(GNU) are included on the base Debian installation. For connecting two systems, you have several chioces. 1)SLIP(Serial Null-modem) See HOWTO for SLIP/PPP. 2)PLIP(Parallel Null-modem-equivalent) Rumored to be quicker. Less support. See HOWTO for PLIP. 3)Network (I've seen a two NE200 card/cable/terminator kit for $80 for ISA $90 for PCI) See Network Administrator's Guide(NAG). Enjoy -- Greg.
Re: make config, [486] or [586]
yeah but it's architechture (sp) is that of a 486 32 bits wide and all of that stuff so compile with 486 optimizations Corey A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nsbe.engr.ccny.cuny.edu/~corey PGP Key fingerprint = 17 C4 DA BE 8B 6D 5A AF 28 A8 78 5F BA EA 9A 5F On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Ioannis Tambouras wrote: I have a AMD586-133 chip whose architecture more resembles an enchanced 486 cpu rather than a pentium. In terms of performence, is it better to compile with the [486] or the [586] parameter during make config? Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida Signed pgp-key on key server.
make-kpkg error
Hallo, yesterday I successfully compiled kernel 2.0.29 at home. Today I tried the same at work and it went wrong :( Both systems are equally configured regarding the relevant packages (dpkg 1.4.0.8, dpkg-deb 1.4.0.8, kernel-package 3.19, don't know about others). I did: make mrproper make config make-kpkg --zimage --revision work-1.0 \ kernel_image kernel_source kernel_headers zImage and modules are compiled correctly. Then after the modules were mv'ed to tmp-image I get: --- cp arch/i386/boot/zImage \ debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29 cp vmlinux debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinux-2.0.29 cp System.map debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.29 chmod 644 debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29 \ debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinux-2.0.29 \ debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.29 dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.29 -Pdebian/tmp-image/ chown -R root.root debian/tmp-image dpkg --build debian/tmp-image .. dpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`work') doesn't contain any digits dpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file make: *** [stamp-image] Error 2 --- I think I did what I'm told in /usr/doc/kernel-package/README. Mysteriously 'make-kpkg --zimage --revision work.1 buildpackage' runs ok. Don't know if the information is sufficient to say what could be wrong. Any idea? Thanks in advance, Ulf
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
CoB SysAdmin typed: Yes, I've read the Serial HOWTO. I've read the PPP HOWTO. I've even read the PPP RFC. I know what IPCP does and I know what LCP does. But I shouldn't have to. I didn't have to read the LILO HOWTO to get my machine to boot Linux. I didn't have to read anything about the timezone system to get the timezone set right. I didn't have to read about mount(1), or mke2fs(1), or mknod(1), or anything else like that. Oddly, the Debian install program handled it all for me, as it should. But it's lack of any setup for PPP... it's lack of even *mentioning* that PPP is on the system already... seems to indicate that there was almost a conscious decision to throw the user to the lions on this part. I think this is the core of the matter. We have some people saying I can't get PPP going, we have others saying It's easy, RTFM. I feel there is a problem with this attitude. For a user to use Debian, they have to get something extra out of it than they would if they just grabbed the tar.gz files and read the doco's. And by far the most important thing to get right and make easy for a user is the initial setup, because if I've trashed my hard drives to put Debian on, its not such a big step to trash them again if I switch to say, RedHat. It is a big hassle a few months later. Telling the user we have PPP, off you go is not enough, we really should be trying to do more to help them. I don't think the variations in ppp servers (or ISPs) are insurmountable; perhaps someone should look and see how some ms-windows programs get around this problem. It would be great if with 5 disks and a phone modem I could big a system from scratch. I've done it with Ethernet connected systems before (except for yesterday, you've got some nasty bugs out there fellars) and it's pretty impressive to do. - Craig vk2xlz -- // /\ | | | Craig Small VK2XLZ @home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||==||===|==|=| [44.136.13.17] @play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\ \/ | | | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key!
Re: Access to NFS-server
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Jeff Gunter wrote: On Mar 5, 6:02am, Bob Clark wrote: cd target_directory_on_server rsh my.pc cd /usr; tar cf - . | tar xf - This may work to copy the /usr-tree after installing the base disks. But it won't solve the upcoming problem (see below). root=hostname[:hostname]... Give root access only to the root (uid 0) users from a specified hostname. The default is for no hosts to be granted root access. While this does open up the possibility for someone to spoof your pc's ip address and mount up the filesystem, it's safer for the HP because somebody who breaks into the pc can't immediately hop onto the HP as root. OK, this works when copying the /usr-tree. I moved /usr and /var/lib to the workstation. I've done the necessary entries in /etc/fstab and rebooted, so I come up with the small diskspace of my own computer and the huge diskspace made available in /usr and /var/lib via NFS on the HP-workstation. Now I tried dselect and here we are -- me and my very old problem (my problem is about 9 weeks old): After selecting the wanted packages (method ftp) dselect complained: Approximate total space required: 28526k Available space in debian: 40%k Space required is greater than available space, you will need to select which items to get. I wanted to install only a few packages at first (that's why only 28M) and if I call `df' I get: ... Available ... Mounted on /dev/hda25288 / /dev/hda3 74720 /var hp.workstation:/path/usr1038027 /usr hp.workstation:/path/var/lib1038027 /var/lib It seems to be enough space to store under /var/lib where the packages are copied to and under /usr where the packages are installed in. The rest of dpkg's job (which was called by dselect) is a mess of error messages. Is there anybody out there who have any idea why dpkg is so stubborn? I think that the failure is caused by the special configuration with the NFS-server. Should I send a bug report concerning dpkg or should I look for the reason on my own boxes concerning permissions and so on? I'm really helpless (and tried several times since more than two month). Any further help is very appreciated Andreas.
Re: getty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish Moffatt writes: On Mar 03, 1997 at 09:17:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, what's the difference between mgetty and vgetty? (aside from the spelling) I tried vgetty --help and it reported mgetty FATAL. vgetty has voice extensions. I wish I knew how to set them up though. I agree, there is no documentation, no manpage, no infopage. Quoting from mgetty info (Debian-1.2.7/binary-all/comm/mgetty-docs_1.0.0-1.deb): The `voice' subtree is *NOT* included in the official release 1.0, because of the lack of documentation, and because Marc thinks it's not stable enough yet. It *is* included in the 0.99 and 1.1 beta development trees, so if you want to play with it, get one of those version. *BUT* keep in mind what beta means: lacking documentation, problems, crashes, whatever. Thanks -- Siggy -- Siggy Brentrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = C8 95 66 8C 75 7E 10 A2 05 61 C7 7F 05 B6 A4 DF
Re: xt?
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Greg Vence wrote: David Stein wrote: Can debian Linux run on an xt? If not is there another linux that can run on an xt? a http: link in the right direction would be appreciated. There was once a project of porting Linux to XT. There is also a free Unix clone called Minix (http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html), which runs on XTs; maybe you should try it. The minimum Linux requirement is a 386. If you have some kind of upgrade chip/package to allow the XT to use a 386, then yes. Else, no. I believe one reason is its a 32-bit PROTECTED mode OS. I don't believe that the 286 chip has that feature available. You're right. I believe :) Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sysadmin? Me?! Naah... I think that I shall never see a poem as lovely as a binary tree.
PPP: send me your scripts
Craig Small writes: I don't think the variations in ppp servers (or ISPs) are insurmountable; perhaps someone should look and see how some ms-windows programs get around this problem. I think the ISP's usually supply a program for MS. I may be sticking my neck out, but here it goes: Please send me your working pppd commands, chatscripts, and options files. If you think yours is very ordinary, and I must already have dozens just like it, *send it*. Only by getting dozens will I know that one is important. I especially want to hear from you if you have an ordinary dialup dynamic ip connection to a commercial ISP. I will sort through them to determine what the commonest arrangements are, and try to distill out a set of alternatives such that one should work in most situations. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Suddenly, my debian mirror timestamps out by 1 minute
[ This is a resend, now that the list seems to be working again ] I mirror debian on an SGI Indigo2 (IRIX64 6.2 IP26), and then from there to my Linux box at home. Last night, the timestamps at home all became 1 minute off and the whole mirror retransfered (complete in several hours over ISDN :-). Since the timestamps on the SGI in the office still match ftp.debian.org, the problem must be on my PC. The only odd thing at the time was a runaway Netscape 3.01gold that I CTRL-C'd before the first window appeared. The process somehow remained, burning up CPU at 70-100% Any ideas what could have made the timestamps change by 1 minute? (If I ever mirror a debian site on the net, I'd hate to waste bandwidth like this if it's something I can fix.) -- ...RickM...
A simple network
I'm new to Linux and with what I've seen so far (1 night downloading, 1 night installing) I'm impressed. Is it possible to hook 3 or more PC's together using their serial port with Linux in order to make a simple network? Where do you get such cables?
Re: make-kpkg error
Hi, I am afraid that you have run into restrictions about the version numbering scheme imposed by Debian Policy. Your revision number is taken to have an upstream version (work) and a debian-revision, which is the rest of the revision field. The upstream version is not allowed to have only non-digits. remove the hyphen (replacing it by a period `.' and all will be well. try make-kpkg --revision work.1.2.3 kernel-image (no hyphens), and things should work. I'll try to document this in the readme file. manoj dpkg programmers' manual - chapter 5 Version numbering Every package has a version number, in its Version control file field. dpkg imposes an ordering on version numbers, so that it can tell whether packages are being up- or downgraded and so that dselect can tell whether a package it finds available is newer than the one installed on the system. The version number format has the most significant parts (as far as comparison is concerned) at the beginning. The version number format is: [epoch:]upstream-version[-debian-revision]. The three components here are: epoch This is a single unsigned integer, which should usually be small. It may be omitted, in which case zero is assumed. If it is omitted then the upstream-version may not contain any colons. It is provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older versions of a package, and also a package's previous version numbering schemes, to be left behind. dpkg will not usually display the epoch unless it is essential (non-zero, or if the upstream-version contains a colon); dselect does not display epochs at all in the main part of the package selection display. upstream-version This is the main part of the version. It is usually version number of the original (`upstream') package of which the .deb file has been made, if this is applicable. Usually this will be in the same format as that specified by the upstream author(s); however, it may need to be reformatted to fit into dpkg's format and comparison scheme. The comparison behaviour of dpkg with respect to the upstream-version is described below. The upstream-version portion of the version number is mandatory. The upstream-version may contain only alphanumerics and the characters + . - : (full stop, plus, hyphen, colon) and should start with a digit. If there is no debian-revision then hyphens are not allowed; if there is no epoch then colons are not allowed. debian-revision This part of the version represents the version of the modifications that were made to the package to make it a Debian binary package. It is in the same format as the upstream-version and dpkg compares it in the same way. It is optional; if it isn't present then the upstream-version may not contain a hyphen. This format represents the case where a piece of software was written specifically to be turned into a Debian binary package, and so there is only one `debianization' of it and therefore no revision indication is required. It is conventional to restart the debian-revision at 1 each time the upstream-version is increased. dpkg will break the upstream-version and debian-revision apart at the last hyphen in the string. The absence of a debian-revision compares earlier than the presence of one (but note that the debian-revision is the least significant part of the version number). The debian-revision may contain only alphanumerics and the characters + and . (plus and full stop). -- A man forgives only when he is in the wrong. Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/
Re: A simple network
From: David Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5 Mar 97 11:14:35 EDT Is it possible to hook 3 or more PC's together using their serial port with Linux in order to make a simple network? Where do you get such cables? Yes. You will need two (or more) null-modem serial cables (sometimes sold as LapLink cables) from JDR Microdevices, Radio Shack, or any of a zillion other places; and you'll want to read the PPP-HOWTO, which can be found on the Web or in your /usr/docs/HOWTO directory after installing the appropriate packages.
Poetry on debian-user
On 5 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This posting is in the public domain. Do with it what you will. Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Do not send email advertisements to this address. I don't think I ever truly believed in found poetry until I read this. -- G. Branden Robinson Purdue University [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/
Re: xt?
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Vadim Vygonets wrote: I believe one reason is its a 32-bit PROTECTED mode OS. I don't believe that the 286 chip has that feature available. You're right. I believe :) Nop. The 80286 has protected mode (that's why it can adress up to 16 Mb). But Linux is a 32 bit operating system, and won't run in a 286. Nicolás Lichtmaier.- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Connection closed by host
I just updated everything I have but now when I try to telnet into my machine I get a connection closed by host. I checked inetd.conf and found in.telnetd, other than that I'm not sure what could be wrong. Other things work eg sendmail. Any ideas?? Jason KillenQuestion Stupidity Monolith : driven by inner daemons RPS : better living through world [EMAIL PROTECTED]domination
Re: xt?
Greg Vence writes: The minimum Linux requirement is a 386. If you have some kind of upgrade chip/package to allow the XT to use a 386, then yes. Else, no. I believe one reason is its a 32-bit PROTECTED mode OS. I don't believe that the 286 chip has that feature available. The XT used an 8088. Its feature was a 10M hard drive. You are thinking of the AT, which had an 80286. The 80286 had support for multitasking, including protected mode. The big feature of the AT was going to be its multitasking OS. It took until 1995 for Microsoft to finish the OS they promised to have ready by the time IBM released the AT, so everyone ran the AT in its 8088 emulation mode (except a few hackers who ran Unix on it). It would probably not be a huge project to get Linux running on the 80286, but why bother? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
A simple network
David Stein writes: I'm new to Linux and with what I've seen so far (1 night downloading, 1 night installing) I'm impressed. Is it possible to hook 3 or more PC's together using their serial port with Linux in order to make a simple network? Where do you get such cables? You can do this with PPP, but for more than 2 machines the resulting network will not be simple. For $100 or so you can get 3 ethernet cards, thin-net cable and terminators, and set up your own ethernet. Performance will be much greater and hassles much fewer. (I've seen recommendations for Addtron ethernet cards; they're currently $25 minus $5 rebate from DataComm Warehouse.) Steven Gaarder Network and Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] C-MOLD, Ithaca, N.Y., USA
Re: xt?
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Vadim Vygonets wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Greg Vence wrote: David Stein wrote: Can debian Linux run on an xt? If not is there another linux that can run on an xt? a http: link in the right direction would be appreciated. There was once a project of porting Linux to XT. There is also a free Unix clone called Minix (http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html), which runs on XTs; maybe you should try it. The project dealing with porting Linux is called ELKS (Embedded Linux Kernel Subset). Last I knew, it wasn't very far along. That was a while ago, though, so maybe they have something new by now. The minimum Linux requirement is a 386. If you have some kind of upgrade chip/package to allow the XT to use a 386, then yes. Else, no. I believe one reason is its a 32-bit PROTECTED mode OS. I don't believe that the 286 chip has that feature available. Actually, the 286 does have protected mode. The problem is, it's only a 16-bit chip, so protected mode really doesn't do much. (It provides memory protection and such, but still has the 64 kb segment size limit.) When Intel released the 286 with protected mode, the protected mode features never really caught on for this reason, so they made a 32-bit chip with protected mode (the 386)...and that REALLY caught on. So, it should be easier (though still difficult) to port Linux to the 286. As far as I know, no one is working on that currently. Of course, Intel chips are all backwards compatible, so ELKS or Minix should run on a 286, or 386, or whatever, in addition to an 8086. --Jon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (http://cc.usu.edu/~jonh/)
Re: XFree86 3.2 performance problem ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Has anyone else noticed that, since the upgrade to 3.2, X seems to be slower ?
I have a P120 with 48 Mb and a Stealth64 Video 2000 (S3) with 2Mb DRAM.
I use 1024x768 with 16 bpp.
After the upgrade I noticed that my WM (AfterStep) took about 2-3 seconds more
to load and the window drawing is also a bit slower. I didn't think about it
though, but yesterday I started xbmbrowser in a directory where I keep a lot
of
pixmaps (800+). It took forever to load so I killed it after about 10
minutes.
Top showed that the XServer consumed 85-95 % of the CPU load.
After that, I reinstalled my old S3 server (3.1.2 from Debian 1.1) and
the problems mentioned above disappeared.
Has anoyone had a similar experience ?
I've noticed one area where X is now slower. I run 2 X displays, one at 256
colors, the other at 16bpp. I switch between then a lot. It used to be a
very fast switch from one to the other. Now, I switch, and it takes 2-3
seconds before X starts responding to mouse movement again. Same thing
happens if I switch to a text console and then back to X.
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Re: xt?
Jon:
The project dealing with porting Linux is called ELKS (Embedded Linux
Kernel Subset). Last I knew, it wasn't very far along. That was a while
ago, though, so maybe they have something new by now.
They have it booting, and it actually runs a program after it boots. Not
init, but it boots directly into a shell or some other program. It's still
very experimental. Minix is a much better choice right now for XT's and
286's.
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true - do nothing, successfully - - true (1)
kerneld activity
I have posted this query previously but I got no replies. I am trying again because I think that this might be a bug. Some days ago I noticed after mounting an nfs system that the kerneld process would spawn other kernelds all the time ( sometimes also sh processses ) and then kill them only to do it again . I didn't pay much attention to it. This however happens also when I mount ncp systems with the ncpfs program . When I unmount the systems the activity stops. I have got most of my base files from unstable but I only have Linux kernel 2.0.0 Could that be the cause ?? I would appreciate any replies. Something else too. I would like to upgrade my kernel to 2.0.27 but I am worried since I haven't done that before. I only need a standard kernel so I was simply thinking of updating my old image with a new one. However I guess things like the System.map have to change as well. Will the kernel-image package do all the necessary alterations ?? And what happens to the modules ?? . Will I get the right ones if I simply upgrade the modules package ?? I realise that I might have to wait until the modules/modutils issue is resolved. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much George. --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
An ibcs2 module problem
I'm running FoxPro for SCO in linux using ibcs2 module, almost everything is going right except for some garbage in the screen. FoxPro documentation advice to pass some parameters in systems diferent to SCO, but it doesn't fix my problem. Is there someone who can help me.
kerneld problem
This ended up in the wrong mailbox (debian-users instead of -user). Please respond to him directly. Bruce From: G. Kapetanios [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have posted this query previously but I got no replies. I am trying again because I think that this might be a bug. Some days ago I noticed after mounting an nfs system that the kerneld process would spawn other kernelds all the time ( sometimes also sh processses ) and then kill them only to do it again . I didn't pay much attention to it. This however happens also when I mount ncp systems with the ncpfs program . When I unmount the systems the activity stops. I have got most of my base files from unstable but I only have Linux kernel 2.0.0 Could that be the cause ?? I would appreciate any replies. Something else too. I would like to upgrade my kernel to 2.0.27 but I am worried since I haven't done that before. I only need a standard kernel so I was simply thinking of updating my old image with a new one. However I guess things like the System.map have to change as well. Will the kernel-image package do all the necessary alterations ?? And what happens to the modules ?? . Will I get the right ones if I simply upgrade the modules package ?? I realise that I might have to wait until the modules/modutils issue is resolved. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much George. --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Xfree86 Question
Could not find config file! - Tried: /etc/XF86Config /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.neverland /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config Fatal server error: No config file found! Note, the X server no longer looks for XF86Config in $HOME Fatal server error: Error reading config file /home/catfish/.xserverrc: Console: command not found Here is The error I get when I try to start X I have copyied the prescibed files and run x86config. I really need the config files for the home directory that Debian left out I was using RedHat 2.1 kernel 1.2.13 and had a HD controller die and a motherboard in the same day. I thought I might try Debian The Concept is good but needs a little more work Any ideas on my X problem would be appreciated.
Re: kerneld activity
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, G. Kapetanios wrote: I have posted this query previously but I got no replies. That is not quite correct. I did send you private email with suggestions to help you track the problem. That must have been within 24 hours since you first posted. If you do not know more about your problem it is because you did not try. Please refrain from suggesting that you received no replies. In that message I suggested that you compile the kdstat program in /usr/src/modules-2.0.0/kerneld with make kdstat. Then see what is happening by using the command kdstat debug, and kdstat nodebug to turn it off. Then I suggested YOU file a bug report using bug(1). It is not true you have been ignored. According to my logs, I responded within 24 hours: From: Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G. Kapetanios [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:39:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: kerneld activity I am trying again because I think that this might be a bug. Some days ago I noticed after mounting an nfs system that the kerneld process would spawn other kernelds all the time ( sometimes also sh processses ) and then kill them only to do it again . I didn't pay much attention to it. This however happens also when I mount ncp systems with the ncpfs program . Your original posting did not mention ncpfs. When I unmount the systems the activity stops. I have got most of my base files from unstable but I only have Linux kernel 2.0.0 Could that be the cause ?? I would appreciate any replies. Something else too. ... ... George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida Signed pgp-key on key server.
XFree 3.2A package?
Has anyone made a package of the 3.2A beta release of XFree86? I'm new to the list, so if this has been asked before, I appologize. I ask because I have an ET6000 card (STB), and would like 16 bpp support. Thanks, -- Jeramia Ory - Resident UnixWeenie The truth knocks on the door and [EMAIL PROTECTED]you say 'Go away, I'm looking for finger for PGP public keythe truth,' and so it goes away. http://lenti.med.umn.edu/~ory/home.html - Robert M. Pirsig
Successful step from stable to unstable
Thanks to Rob and Victorio for their advise about upgrading from stable to unstable. I first downloaded dpkg 1.4.8 and installed it by hand. After that I launched dselect and upgraded succesfully. I watched the upgrade process closely and here are the notes I made during the procedure. Once I was in dselect I put several packages on hold, including bash2, emacs, xbase and various other big packages. In the first run I installed at least 46 new or updated packages without any problems. After that I went on and installed the rest of the packages on hold. The only thing that produced notable warnings was ldconfig which gave errors like can't open /usr/lib/libdb.so skipping. After the install libdb.so was properly installed though and there were no dangling symlinks. The hold feature in dselect is very useful. It simplifies the installation since you can do it in many rounds with only a few packages in each round. Keep up the good work guys! Heikki, the happy Debian user. -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * Tampere, Finland
Problems
Dear Sir or Madom, I have servel question to ask. 1. How do I access my floppy drive? All I know is that it is fd0. 2. How do I copy files off of a MS-DOS floppy? 3. How do I use my modem to connect to a local unix server? Thanks for you help if you can answer these. Pete Poff Pete Poff---AKA---BlackJack Personal E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyron E-Mail Address:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ||Blackjack|| | | |Kyron God, | |Coder and Builder. | | | | telnet.cyberconinc.com| | 4000| |___|
Re: kerneld activity
I am sorry I did not mention in my previous email that Ioannis Tambouras send me a suggestion about my problem. He suggested using the kdstat program to see if I could find anything useful Unfortunately, I could not get far with his suggestion. The kdstat program whn run produces the following output Version 2.0.0, pid=360, delay=60, nokeep, nodebug no jobs waiting If I try kdstat debug this comes up Version 2.0.0, pid=360, delay=60, nokeep, debug no jobs waiting There is no manpage or info page ( not in my system anyway ) about this program. So I didn't know what to do with it. Since my previous email I realised that the same phenomenon happens in another computer on which I have installed Debian . This has a newer version of the kernel ( 2.0.27) . So the old version of the kernel must not be the cause of the problem . As this problem does not affect in any way my work I do not worry about it much. However since I am new to Debian I do not know whether this is bug of a feature of some kind for kerneld and so I do not think it would be right to file a bug report ( I don't think I asked anybody else to do this for me as Ioannis implied ). Anyway I am sorry to bother the list in any way. Any help or suggestion about this or about the use of kernel-image as I explained in my previous mail is more that welcome and will be appreciated !!! Thank you very much George PS Anyway since the e-mail that Ioannis sent to me was personal I think that my slip in not acknowledging his help in my previous email could have been dealt with in private without further burdening the already heavily used list. Thanks again. --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: kerneld problem
Hi,
I don't use NFS with Linux, so I am not sure about that ...
As to compiling your own kernel, and the modules you have,
well, you configure a kernel by running make menuconfig (or xconfig
or config; the same basic configuration, the user interface is
nacurses, X, or the standard text interface).
Look at Documentation/Configure.help for details on what the
modules mean. Re run the configuration, if needed, until you are
happy with the selection.
The modules package merely gives you tools to handle the
modules you select (you can load them, look dor dependencies,
etc). It does not give you modules you use.
After you have configured your kernel to your liking (using
make {menu,x,}config as above, the package kernel package comes into
play.
# make-kpkg --revision c501 kernel-image
will give you a brand new kernel image package, complete with
the modules you selected, which can be installed as usual using dpkg
-i, and that will handle System.map, and links in /, and all.
Please read the documentation in path_to_kernel/Documentation/
and in /usr/doc/kernel-package/, and best of luck.
Holler of you'll need help.
manoj
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lastlog is looking strange
i'm not sure when it started, but one of my debian 1.3 system has lines
like:
{*** 'y*3 Tue Mar 4 11:33 - 16:37 (05:04)
in the output of the 'last' command. three other 1.3 systems and
another 1.2 system i use are not having this problem. the only major
between this one system and the other 4 is that it's a 486 and it dials
in to the internet... the others are 586s and are connected via ethernet.
I wouldn't expect those differences to cause anything like this.
so am i the only one getting this?
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Re: lastlog is looking strange
In your email to me, Robert Stone, you wrote:
i'm not sure when it started, but one of my debian 1.3 system has lines
like:
{*** 'y*3 Tue Mar 4 11:33 - 16:37 (05:04)
in the output of the 'last' command. three other 1.3 systems and
another 1.2 system i use are not having this problem. the only major
between this one system and the other 4 is that it's a 486 and it dials
in to the internet... the others are 586s and are connected via ethernet.
I wouldn't expect those differences to cause anything like this.
so am i the only one getting this?
Nope.. I get that too. If you reboot, it will clean up for a
while. One thing I've found is that the machine that has this
problem is identicle to another of our production boxes, but has
ssh installed.
Tim
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Re: lastlog is looking strange
Robert Stone:
i'm not sure when it started, but one of my debian 1.3 system has lines
like:
{*** 'y*3 Tue Mar 4 11:33 - 16:37 (05:04)
in the output of the 'last' command. three other 1.3 systems and
another 1.2 system i use are not having this problem. the only major
between this one system and the other 4 is that it's a 486 and it dials
in to the internet... the others are 586s and are connected via ethernet.
I wouldn't expect those differences to cause anything like this.
so am i the only one getting this?
No, I'm having it too. Debian 1.3, tracking unstable.
^?*** Tue Mar 4 01:48 - 16:47 (14:58)
^?*** Tue Mar 4 01:48 - 01:48 (00:00)
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IP Accounting
Hello, I want to monitor the traffic over a ppp connection and also between some adresses on the local network. So I set up the net-acct package but whatever the configuration looks like only the local traffic is monitored. Maybe I got something wrong but it looks easy: the relation between the ppp interface and the serial device is fixed so the configuration is 'line ppp0 ttyS1'. Perhaps someone has succesfully configured this package for ppp connections or knows about other possibilities to monitor the traffic? bye, karsten
Re: lastlog is looking strange
Robert Stone:
so am i the only one getting this?
I'm getting it on two machines now. Both use ssh, if it's relevant. The
second is really bad:
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:38 still logged in
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:38 - 01:38 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:23 - 01:38 (00:14)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:23 - 01:23 (00:00)
g***z*** }***j**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:23 (00:11)
g***z*** }***j**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }***i**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }***h**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }***h**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }***g**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }***g**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }***f**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }***f**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }***e**3 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
root tty1 Tue Mar 4 01:12 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:11 - 01:12 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:11 - 01:11 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:11 - 01:11 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:11 - 01:11 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:11 - 01:11 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:11 - 01:11 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:10 - 01:11 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:10 - 01:10 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:10 - 01:10 (00:00)
g***z*** }*** Tue Mar 4 01:10 - 01:10 (00:00)
joey ttyp1kite.ml.org Mon Mar 3 22:42 - 22:44 (00:01)
g***z*** }*** Mon Mar 3 22:28 - 01:10 (02:41)
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FTP archive time-stamps
The FTP archive timestamp.txt is being updated again. That was broken for about a week. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: Problems
Pete, If you have installed mtools, you can access MS DOS disks: low and high level format files, copy to the disk, read from the disk, delete, both text and binary files etc. Please read man mtools, then man each of the individual mtools (mcopy, mdel, mdir,...) that should get you started. Oh the config files are in /etc/mtools.conf The device for the first floppy is /dev/fd0, and you can mount a floppy there with the command (only as root) mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt where /mnt is any directory not otherwise in use. -r if your disk is write protected, or if you want to mount it so it cannot be written. You use ppp (point to point protocol) to talk to your isp. that is slightly more complicated than just RTM. I have only set up my system at home to talk to MCI's internet service. You must have clear picture of what the isp is sending and what the responses that are required by the isp are. I logged in by hand. Use kermit, or any terminal emulation program. I'm sorry I don't know others. Write the conversation ALL down. You will have to provide the chat script with send-expect pairs that look like this: ogin: dbt asswd: xxx ption: p the ogin: is the last part of login:, dbt is my login name, asswd: is password, xx is the password for my account ption: is for option, and p is the signal for connect ppp. There are a few other things you will need, and I cannot recall off the top of my head. Please read carefully the files /usr/doc/ppp/README*. Then you probably will be in shape to try this, and ask more questions. If you don't get it, I'll send you my chatscripts and other setup files, and if I can't help you , someone around here will certainly be able to do so. This is the Debian User mailing list, where help is not far away. Hope this helps! David - LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [345]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | User interface copyrights software patents make [EMAIL PROTECTED] | programing a dangerous business. Ask me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Pete Poff wrote: Dear Sir or Madom, I have servel question to ask. 1. How do I access my floppy drive? All I know is that it is fd0. 2. How do I copy files off of a MS-DOS floppy? 3. How do I use my modem to connect to a local unix server? Thanks for you help if you can answer these. Pete Poff Pete Poff---AKA---BlackJack Personal E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyron E-Mail Address:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ||Blackjack|| | | |Kyron God, | |Coder and Builder. | | | | telnet.cyberconinc.com| | 4000| |___| - LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [345]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | User interface copyrights software patents make [EMAIL PROTECTED] | programing a dangerous business. Ask me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil
Re: Problems
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Pete Poff wrote: Dear Sir or Madom, I have servel question to ask. 1. How do I access my floppy drive? All I know is that it is fd0. the mount command can be used to mount a floppy - but remember to unmount it again before removing it from the drive!! e.g. mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy will mount the floppy in fd0 on directory /floppy (if /floppy exists). note: unless you set up permissions to allow normal users to do this, this is a privelidged (root only) command. see 'man mount' for more info. 2. How do I copy files off of a MS-DOS floppy? you can use mtools to copy files to/from a dos floppy. e.g. mdir a: # get a directory listing of a: mcopy a:file.txt .# copy file.txt from a: to current dir mcopy file.txt a: # copy file.txt from current dir to a: see 'man mtools', 'man mdir', 'man mcopy' etc for more info. 3. How do I use my modem to connect to a local unix server? minicom is a good terminal emulator for linux. it is fairly similar in style to telix. it's probably the easiest terminal program to use. there are other programs too: cu -- comes with uucp package. useful sometimes but more suited to scripting than interactive use. seyon -- X windows based terminal emulator. ckermit -- good comms program, but can be difficult to use until you get used to it. craig
Re: Xfree86 Question
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Terry Martin wrote: Could not find config file! - Tried: /etc/XF86Config /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.neverland /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config Fatal server error: No config file found! Note, the X server no longer looks for XF86Config in $HOME Huh? I thought the X server usually looks for this file in /etc/ or the X11 lib directory or even the bin directory depending on how you set it up. Fatal server error: Error reading config file Have you tried rerunning xf86config, or the better XF86Setup program (the latter one is graphical) without the above files? You might not be able to use older Xfree config files with the new 3.2 server. I don't know what exactly is going on here, could you be a bit clearer? Are you trying to copy your old config files from your previous distribution, or are you having problems with just running xf86config? You should try letting the setup programs generate their own files...
Re: XFree 3.2A package?
This has been hashed through a few times. There is not, has never been, and probably will never be an official Debian package based on the XFree Beta releases, since they do not provide source for the betas. Your best bet is to get just the server tgz that you need from the XFree ftp site, untar it, and put the server binary in /usr/local/bin. Then, just edit /etc/X11/Xserver, and make the first line point to the X server binary in /usr/local/bin. The new server will work just fine with the old binaries, and there's not really a whole lot of urgency to get the rest of the beta stuff unless you really need the lbx or Xremote extensions (And even then, most of it is in the servers). -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ If people think nature is their friend, then they sure don't need an enemy. --Kurt Vonnegut
Running files
Hi, how can I run a file that is not a command file? Like I have a file called startup, how do I run it? And where can I find minicom, or any of the other comm programs? And where can I get pico, the text editor? thanks again, Pete Poff Pete Poff---AKA---BlackJack Personal E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyron E-Mail Address:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ||Blackjack|| | | |Kyron God, | |Coder and Builder. | | | | telnet.cyberconinc.com| | 4000| |___|
current?
where are the debian disks at ftp.debian.org? theres no such directory as current? c'ya hate to be ya, michl electric RAIN http://www.electric-rain.net/ Go as far as you can see, and when you get there, you'll see farther. - anonymous
Re: debian install error
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: Im using the 2.0.0 install set (i then upgrade teh kernel myself later:) I'll download the later disks and see what happens. Thanks! On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Solomani wrote: When i first initialise two brand new 4.5 gig IBM HD i get this error badblocks: cant resolve symbol 'llseek' writing inode tables: 256/265mkfs.ext2 cant resolve symbol 'llseek' ideas? suggestions? solutions? hmmm. that's an old problem...haven't seen it for a while. you must be running on an old kernel and/or old libc - what versions are you running? anyway, the reason for the problem is that until fairly recently (6 months or less - i can't remember exactly) the kernel was limited to approx 2gb filesystems. This limit is gone now. try upgrading your system - at least the kernel, libc5, e2fsprogs and any other packages which these may be dependant upon. if you really don't want to do this, then you can still format the disks with multiple 2gb partitions. I just saw the subject line again - if you're in the middle of installing debian for the first time (how old is the floppy/CD set you're installing from? - where did you get it from?), then you have a few choices: 1. download the latest install disks from ftp.debian.org (or a mirror near you) and use them to install with. they will be at least kernel 2.0.27, so should be able to format large disks. 2. partition ONE of your drives so that /, /usr, /home, /var, /tmp etc are on separate partitions and take less than 2gb each. install debian onto this setup. when you have debian installed, then upgrade the kernel etc as mentioned above, and when you've rebooted with a newer kernel you should be able to format the second 4.5GB drive as a single partition. craig (there's more than one way to do just about anything :-) c'ya hate to be ya, michl electric RAIN http://www.electric-rain.net/ Go as far as you can see, and when you get there, you'll see farther. - anonymous
Re: Running files
how can I run a file that is not a command file? Like I have a file called startup, how do I run it? What sort of file is it? If you know that it's an executable file, you probably need to set the execute bit on the file. You can do with chmod u+x filename. Check out the man page for chmod for more info. If startup is a script of commands you want to run, make sure you have the line #!/bin/sh at the top of the script. And where can I find minicom, or any of the other comm programs? Take a look at the directory structure on the ftp sites. There is a debian/stable and a debian/unstable. Pick the one you want to use (probably stable). Under this, there is a binary-architecture directory. If you have a PC, you'll want binary-i386. Then there are a bunch of directories based on section. For instance, all the comm programs are in debian/stable/binary-i386/comm. And where can I get pico, the text editor? Check out debian/non-free/binary/pico_3.95L-7.deb on an ftp mirror, such as aij.st.hmc.edu (not to plug my own mirror, or anything...). This isn't in the stable or unstable trees probably because it's not under the GPL -- the GNU Public License. -- - John Larkin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://aij.st.hmc.edu/~jlarkin
