Re: pentium Pros and what about the USB?

1997-03-29 Thread Michael Harnois
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes:

 I don't know about USB. Do you have any USB devices? I've never seen one.

Compaq markets a USB camera.

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Re: pentium Pros and what about the USB?

1997-03-29 Thread Joseph Skinner



On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, m* wrote:

 heya,
 
 i was digging about looking for support for the Intel 8244xFx PCI
 chipset that comes on Pentium Pro boards and found zip. this 
 includes the .29 kernel source.
 
 are the Pentium Pro 200 chipsets supported yet? 
 
 and what about the Universal Serial Bus?
 
 can we expect support for that any time soon?
 


Someone on the kernel mailing list mentioned that they had started work
usb support but I haven't heard anything more on it.

I think that the kernel mailing lists are archived so it should be easy
enough to find.

Joe.

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Re: Another dumb newbie question.

1997-03-29 Thread Jim Smith
At 12:42 3/28/97 -0800, you wrote:
Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:
 
 On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Jim Smith wrote:
 
  I'm slowly getting this system to do what I want, but there are a couple

 
 I think you need both the line start-xdm and xdm-start-server in your
 /etc/X11/config file.

Well, I'll give that a shot. Thanks.

And it didn't work, still that old Password: prompt top still shows xdm
running though.

Jim


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Re: Another dumb newbie question.

1997-03-29 Thread Jim Smith
At 16:57 3/28/97 -0600, you wrote:
Hey,

1. Don't worry about PEX/XIE messages; they're not important.

Thanks.

2. /var/log/xdm-errors often has useful information in it about
problems xdm is having; perhaps you already knew that, but it never
hurts to mention it.

I'll look there, truthfully I forgot and was trying to work too fast. Thanks.


3. I'm assuming you can start X with startx?  I wouldn't try to get
xdm working until I could startx.

Benn running well with startx for seeral days now since I got X set up.

Many thanks...

Jim


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Strange ppp message

1997-03-29 Thread Jim Smith
Here is the latest entry from my /var/log/ppp.log file, only the last
line was copied, but that's the one I'm questioning.

Mar 28 22:07:29 jim pppd [414]: Cannot determine Ethernet address for
proxy ARP

Don't know what it means, but I remember something about ARP from the
Kernel compilation.

Jim


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IRC #Debian

1997-03-29 Thread System Account
Hello all,

I hope this isn't out of line posting here but it is related to
debian linux. :)

About 2 months ago #Debian was setup on the UnderNet Irc Network
for debian linux users (or any linux user). The channel is open for anyone
to join and could be a great way for users to help others who frequent
IRC. 
For any of you who have not been on the undernet servers before
i'll include a list of servers that can be used (this is only a small
list of servers). Hope to see you there!

Some UnderNet Servers: 

US 
okc.ok.us.undernet.org
lowell.ma.us.undernet.org
portland.me.us.undernet.org
dallas.tx.us.undernet.org
phoenix.az.us.undernet.org
vancouver.bc.ca.undernet.org

Canada:
montreal.qu.ca.undernet.org
toronto.on.ca.undernet.org
vancouver.bc.ca.undernet.org

Europe:
amsterdam.nl.eu.undernet.org
diemen.nl.eu.undernet.org
dublin.ie.eu.undernet.org
caen.fr.eu.undernet.org
london.uk.eu.undernet.org

New Zealand:
auckland.nz.undernet.org

-Robert AKA Adrenolin on UnderNet Irc



debian on IBM ps/2's

1997-03-29 Thread @

Last week there was a question posted about installing debian on an IBM
ps/2 with microchannel hard disksthere was also a response stating
that debian did not support MCA(Micro-Channel Architecture...for all you
newbies;)), there are people  working on implementing linux on the MCA...

more info can be gather at http://glycerine.itsmm.uni.edu/mca/ or even an
IBM PS/2 boot disk at ftp.dcrl.nd.edu/pub/misc/linux


just thought i'd share a lil knowledge...what lil i have...

regards,

jd?

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Perl On Linux Where?

1997-03-29 Thread butch
Hello,

I am a newbie, but i would like to install perl on my 
debian system, can anyone tell me where it is located 
and how much space will it take.

thanks

allan

i like to use the miami ftp site
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Re: Problems working with bash.

1997-03-29 Thread Paul Seelig
On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Pete Harlan wrote:

 In bash it's ^R for reverse, and ^S for forward search, just like in
 emacs.  Perhaps if you select vi rules for bash it will use whatever
 horror vi uses for searching.

^S only freezes my xterm and i have to press ^Q to make it work again.
How come you can do ^S for forward searches without freezing your
xterm?
 
 Customization is great, but if you learn unmodified bash then you can
 use other folk's systems more easily.  Unless they customized it.
 
The great advantage of bash is that it has resonably well thought out
default settings making it very easy to work for beginners. The Korn
shell ksh in turn is probably good for shell scripts but i hate to
work with iit under HP-UX where it is the default.
 P. *8^)
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Re: Another dumb newbie question.

1997-03-29 Thread Colin Telmer
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On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Jim Smith wrote:

 At 12:42 3/28/97 -0800, you wrote:
 Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:
  
  On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Jim Smith wrote:
  
   I'm slowly getting this system to do what I want, but there are a couple
 
  
  I think you need both the line start-xdm and xdm-start-server in your
  /etc/X11/config file.
 
 Well, I'll give that a shot. Thanks.
 
 And it didn't work, still that old Password: prompt top still shows xdm
 running though.

My config does not include the line xdm-server-start. However, you may
want to check if an X server has been specified in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
something like 
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X  

Cheers.


Colin R. Telmer, Department of Economics, Dunning Hall
Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, Canada, K7L-3N6
Phone: (613)545-2273 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL:http://terrapin.econ.queensu.ca

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Re: Perl On Linux Where?

1997-03-29 Thread Brian C. White
 I am a newbie, but i would like to install perl on my
 debian system, can anyone tell me where it is located
 and how much space will it take.

Try  debian/bo/binary-i386/interpreters/perl_5.003.07-8.deb

It will take about 5MB installed.

  Brian
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lost old pgp key

1997-03-29 Thread Colin Telmer
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This may not be the most appropriate place to ask this question but since
debian was the reason I started using pgp, I thought that someone here may
have some suggestions. 

Stupidly when I first started using pgp, I made a key pair and uploaded it
to the public pgp keyserver and then without thinking erased the keys.
NOTE: this was before I began any interaction with debian and the key I
have used with all debian communication is my current key (the one that
is attached to this note). My problem is that I want to put my new key on
the keyserver, but cannot remove the old one given I do not have the old
key. I have searched through the pgp documentation and all I could come up
with is something from the FAQ as follows:

- -
7.4 How do I indicate that my key is invalid when I don't have the secret
key anymore?

This is a very tricky situation, and should be avoided at all costs. The
easiest way is to prepare a key revocation certificate (See 7.3 for
details on how to do this) before you need it, so you can always revoke
the key, even without the secret key. 

Alternatively, you can use a binary editor to change one of the user IDs
on your public key to read Key invalid;  use key 0x12345678 or something
to that effect. Keep in mind that the new user ID can't be longer than the
old one, unless you know what you are doing. Then extract the key, and
send it to the keyserver. It will think this is actually a new user ID,
and add it to your key there.

However, since anyone can do the above, many people will not trust
unsigned user IDs with such statements.  As explained in question 6.3, all
user IDs on your key should be self-signed. So again, make a key
revocation certificate in advance and use that when necessary.
- -

I don't really understand this - it seems to me that it is implying to
alter a user ID on my _old_ key and then resubmit it. However, I don't
have the old key. Any suggestions or am I just completely missing
something?

(BTW I have backed up my new key and made a revocation certificate in
advance this time:))

Cheers, Colin.

Colin R. Telmer, Department of Economics, Dunning Hall
Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, Canada, K7L-3N6
Phone: (613)545-2273 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Setting up 10 486's with a server

1997-03-29 Thread Rick Hawkins

Our department will be converting a pile of old 486/33 boxes to debian
linux.  They will have two (expected :) primary purpose:  standalone to
execute lyx for writing theses  dissertations, and as x-terminals to 
our
larger alpha workstations.

There is really no budget fo this; we're using oure obsolete machines.  
And
there will be at best minimal formal support.

The campus also has workstations throughout, with a central afs file
system.  Project Vincent is based on MIT's Project Athena.

From the list of machines and parts, we can apparently assemble 11
machines.  Between them we have 5x210mb, and 11x80mb hard drives.  There 
is
a single set of 4x4mb simms, and a slew of 1mb simms.

My currrent thinking is setting up one machine as a server, with 3x210 
hard
drives, and 20mb memory, and the rest with 8mb, and the hard disks
distributed.

Setting up the server shouldn't be a problem; i've done this before.  
The
problem is how to manage the other 10 machines, most of which will be
graduate computer rooms.

My current thinking is to install everything in sight on the server, put 
it
last on the local paths, and put common executables onto the individual
machines.  (WIth a pair of 80mb drives, these machines don't have enough
room for full installation of the packages they need.)  Will this work?

Another concern is password control.  It would be nice to have a single
place to deal with passwords, rather than all 10 user machines.  Even
better would be to use kerberos to verify passwords through the current
Project Vincent.  Is this doable?

The /home directories are another concern.  I suppose that these could
reside on the server, but that sounds like heavy traffic.  Is it 
practical
to create a login process that untars the directory from the server, 
then
tars and deletes it at logout?

And what about auto-remounting of the server?  I have heard of problems
requirng rebooting of all of the clients, but this doesn't make sense.  
It
seems that they should be able to auto-remount.  

For that matter, can the 486/33 handle being an afs rather than nfs 
server?

Come to think of it, we do have novell servers for the windows machines. 
Could these (without modificationor upgrade :) serve the linux boxes?

Rick


Re: Setting up 10 486's with a server

1997-03-29 Thread Klee Dienes

 place to deal with passwords, rather than all 10 user machines.  Even
 better would be to use kerberos to verify passwords through the current
 Project Vincent.  Is this doable?

There should be debian versions of both Kerberos 4 and Kerberos 5
available on the non-US site within the next week or so.  Some
configuration (notably to XDM) to use Kerberos for local logins will
still be necessary, but the Kerberos packages should get you most of
the way there.

Note however that using Kerberos for local login security can be
problematic if you are not careful --- in particular, unless you have
a local service key installed on each machine, you leave yourself
vulnerable to spoofing the workstation by sending fake Kerberos reply
packets.  (The resulting tickets aren't useful for network
authentication, but they're enough to trick the workstation into
letting the intruder log in).  Of course, if you're using the public
workstation model used by Athena, this may not matter to you.


bash keybindings

1997-03-29 Thread Christian Hudon
On Mar 28, Pete Harlan wrote
  
  I also came from tcsh, therefore I put this in my ~/.inputrc and I'm
  happy ever since 8-)
  
  ,-
  | M-p: history-search-backward
  | M-n: history-search-forward
  `-
 
[snip]
 
 Customization is great, but if you learn unmodified bash then you can
 use other folk's systems more easily.  Unless they customized it.

Agreed. Unfortunately, these two commands are not bound to anything by
default in bash... which is why I end up swearing each time I use bash for
interactive use. Anyone care to take this up with the upstream bash
maintainers?

  Christian


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Postgres95 - missing library

1997-03-29 Thread softcorp
Hi there,

I've recently downloaded the latest stable POSTGRES95 package and installed it 
(Debian 1.2; kernel - 2.0.27).

Apparently I'm missing a package, as postmaster keeps on complaining: can't 
load library 'libbsd.so.1.0.0.

I will appreciate advise as to the whereabouts of the above mentioned library.
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can't umount /usr(/dev/hdb3)

1997-03-29 Thread David Puryear
Hi all,

I upgrade a lot of packages, don't know exactly which ones though,  and now
shutdown -h now and umount will not unmount /usr(aka /dev/hdb3). It gives me
same error:
umount: /dev/hdb3: device is busy 

Does anyone have any idea as to what is causing this?

Thanks,
David
p.s. From now on, I will upgrade only one package at a time than reboot to make
sure nothing is broken.;-)
 and now shutdown -h now and umount will not umount
/usr(aka /dev/hdb3). It gives me same error:
umount: /dev/hdb3: device is busy 

Does anyone have any idea as to what is causing this?


bug package

1997-03-29 Thread Francesco Tapparo
Hi,
I'm a happy debian user: I have a bo installation.
I have noticed that rxvt and emacs don't run automatically update-menus
after the installation. I think that these are bugs, and I have reported
thes using bug. Bug has mailed the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I
don't have received any answer. Is this a problem of bug? Is this a problem
of the bug tracking System?
Thanks for every answer.
Ciao from

Francesco Tapparo
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TeX fonts

1997-03-29 Thread Ralf Comtesse
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Hi,

When I use some of the not so common fonts in a TeX document, MakeTeX* of
debian 1.2.7 cannot generate them automatically anymore. The *.tfm files
are present and I think all paths in texmf.conf are correct. Is there a
fix for that?

These are the error messages:

kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK pplr8r 432 300 magstep\(2.0\) deskjet
Running MakeTeXPK pplr8r 432 300 magstep(2.0) deskjet
mv: pplr8r.432pk: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/MakeTeXPK: Could not mv pplr8r.432pk
/var/spool/texmf/fonts/pk/ps2pk/pktmp.9223.
mv: pktmp.9223: No such file or directory
chmod: pplr8r.432pk: No such file or directory


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PGP signing in Exmh locks X

1997-03-29 Thread Steve
When I try to PGP-sign a message before sending it in Exmh, everything
under X (exmh, fvwm2) completely locks up until I switch to another
terminal and kill the xterm that's trying to run PGP. The xterm with
PGP never actually gets displayed, and I can't do _anything_ in X.

This is not a problem of PGP using all CPU. It looks as though my
session locks when it tries to start the xterm with PGP, and PGP never
actually gets started. Doing a ps in another terminal shows all of my
processes under X in state S (idle more than 20 seconds).

The PGP options when reading email (extract keys, verify signatures)
work fine. Very handy.

I haven't tried any of the options when sending except the PGP/MIME
sign clear and application/pgp sign clear options. Both of those
options produce the problem.

How can I fix this? It seems strange that it would lock my whole X
session. Any help would be appreciated.

TIA.


exmh 1.6.9-4
mh   6.8.4-10
pgp-i2.6.3-2
fvwm22.0.45-BETA-1
fvwm-common  2.0.45-BETA-1
xbase3.2-3
libc55.4.23-2


Re: PGP signing in Exmh locks X

1997-03-29 Thread Clint Adams
Try typing your passphrase and hitting Enter.  You may be experiencing a 
problem with the visibility of the dialog window (it may be off the edge of 
the screen).