Re: vi
Ralph Winslow wrote: emacs: M- ; go to beginning of file C-x ( ; start recording kbd macro C-s 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 M-b M-b M-b ; go back three words M-d M-d M-d ; delete three words 129.168.200 ; insert new string C-x ) ; end kbd macro C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat I could care less what editor anybody (not in my patroll ;-) uses. I'm sending this for the benefit of the emacs user who wrote the above. I beg to differ the emacs case: M- ; go to beginning of file M-% ; query-replace 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 129.168.200 RET ; replace with 129.168.200 ! ; repeat for all occurrences This is fewer keystrokes than vi. If you don't want every occurrence changed, then you press one key to perform or another to skip each one as you see it. -- ...RickM...
DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
Hello all: As I'm sure everyone is aware a new project has been initiated to replace the currenct dselect package maintainence facility with the goals of enhancing its functionality and resolving some of the existing package maintenance problems. This thread is being issued to provide all individuals and organizations an opportunity to voice their requirements and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse. Please ensure that DEITY TEAM -- is in the subject line as it will aid in tracking your responses. We will endeavor to take everyones requests and comments into account but that does not guarantee all requests will be implemented. Thanks in advance for you input. Regards Peter Iannarelli
[HELP] root damaged
Yesterday, I booted up my buzz (Debian-1.1) box and surprise ! I in root account with right away ! An `ls -l' on the root dir showed my that `/sbin/' is now a huge _FILE_ I can't read floppy, cdroms ... because I can't load modules since insmod and co. are in `/sbin/' !!! :-((( (My Debian-1.1 CD is lost somewhere :-) ... Anyone knows a ftp which still carries 1.1 Please -- = Linh Dang Nortel Technology Member of Scientific StaffSpeech Recognition Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Re: vi
On Apr 14, Rick Macdonald wrote Ralph Winslow wrote: I beg to differ the emacs case: M- ; go to beginning of file M-%; query-replace 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 129.168.200 RET; replace with 129.168.200 ! ; repeat for all occurrences This is fewer keystrokes than vi. Not exactly: :% s/129.168.1\./129.168.200/g later, - rick -- Richard Kilgore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electrical Computer Engineering | http://lore.ece.utexas.edu/~rkilgore/ The University of Texas at Austin | (512) 471-8011
Re: routing setup question
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Benedikt Eric Heinen wrote: The new setup should look like: ISP My systems lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc.thenet.ch --- ppp0 --- --- eth0 --- 193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47 193.135.252.179 Assuming you in reality have more than 1 IP address being routed to you, it's easy. You can't have the ppp0 and eth0 interfaces on icemark use the same IP. However, if you isp is willing to route you a /30, you'll be cool. Here's how you should be set up (assuming your ISP is sending you 193.135.252.177/30 aka 193.135.252.177 - .180, and the IP addr of your ppp0 is 193.135.252.47): icemark: ifconfig eth0 193.135.252.178 broadcast 193.135.252.180 netmask 255.255.255.252 route add -net 193.135.252.0 netmask 255.255.255.252 now bring up your ppp0 and set it to be the default route. Make sure your kernel on icemark has IP forward turned ON. firefranc: ifconfig eth0 193.135.252.179 broadcast 193.135.252.180 netmask 255.255.255.252 route add -net 193.135.252.0 netmask 255.255.255.252 route add default gw 193.135.252.178 If this is not the case, use a /24 from 192.168.0.0/16 for the ethernet interfaces on the boxes and use IP_Masquerade... Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not| and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
Re: [HELP] root damaged
On 14 Apr 1997, Linh Dang wrote:
Yesterday, I booted up my buzz (Debian-1.1) box and surprise ! I in root
account with right away !
An `ls -l' on the root dir showed my that `/sbin/' is now a huge _FILE_
I can't read floppy, cdroms ... because I can't load modules since insmod and
co. are in `/sbin/' !!! :-((( (My Debian-1.1 CD is lost somewhere :-) ...
Anyone knows a ftp which still carries 1.1 Please
templinux.bucknell.edu has /debian/buzz{,-fixed,-updates}
Pete
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Re: vi
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: I beg to differ the emacs case: M- ; go to beginning of file M-% ; query-replace 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 129.168.200 RET ; replace with 129.168.200 ! ; repeat for all occurrences This is fewer keystrokes than vi. Err... I know I shouldn't get into this, but. :1 ; go to top of file :g/129.168.1/s//129.168.200/gret ; global replace esc:wq No finger breaking key combo's either. :-) Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not| and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
dump or taper for backups?
Hi, I am getting ready to start backing up my production Debian GNU/Linux boxes and I am considering both dump/restore and taper as my backup software. I would like to know which program Debian users recommend me to use. I am a little bit concerned about using dump since I read this in the changelog file in /usr/doc/dump: I remind you that dump and restore should be considered as software in BETA test. Don't rely too much on them for your backups... This is not very promissing, is it? Thanks in advance for the help. Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323
Re: bi
On 14 Apr 1997, Kai Grossjohann wrote: Well, vi is not the only choice. If they're using X, why don't you tell them to use xedit? It's about as braindead as pico but can do search and replace, so it should be very easy to use. To take this silly editor thread a bit off-topic (and away from the flames)... xedit? You mean the old CMS editor? :-) Or did someone write an editor that runs under the X-Window system and call it xedit? -douglas
MIT-Scheme 7.4.n
I was thinking about trying to do my first Debian package, of MIT-Scheme. I've found it to be the best scheme interpretter out there for a person who is just beginning to learn the language, since it's the one many of the Scheme textbooks assume you have. And, I like its interface to the emacsen best. URL:http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/scheme-home.html When I went to ftp it, I found that they release a binary kit that has an installer script. It worked on the first try, and I was entering Scheme expressions in an editor window less than 5 minutes after the download! So a package isn't *required* to run this and get started with it. I would be nice to have the info's installed, and a simple upgrade path. A menu to launch `edwin`, or to `gnuclient '(run-scheme)'` maybe? After thinking about it a while; or trying to; I realize that I honestly don't know enough about Linux and Debian to be able to make a package. Back to my reading, folks. :-) -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
Hi all, Since the gentleman requested, and will soon be deluged with mail, I decided to get my two cents in early. 1. Please include a download status indicator. i.e. time remaining. I am using a link that only lasts three hours, and then shuts down. An indication of how much time is needed/remains would give me a guide as to which order I want to grab packages. 2. I know there has been much traffic about the interface, but I think the best I've seen for this type of material is a nested list of packages. Start the top with all packages, then go to stable, contrib, non-free... After that break them down by group, i.e. admin, base, ... The thread that could tie all of these together is the ability to make some of these disapear. For Example: -All Packages -Stable -admin -acct -base -adduser -Contrib -Non-free Now all that is needed is a keystroke sequence to open and close the catagories. The closest piece of software out now that would be similar is the Netscape News Window. The scrolling through dselect can be tiring. I agree that dselect is the greatest tool for software management I have seen, but there should be a way to condense the number of packages displayed on the screen at any one time. This can avoid information overload, which IMHO is dselect's flaw. I'm not sure of the best way to arrange the dependencies. Maybe a toggle to arrange packages by dependencies or catagory. I hope this has been helpful and not a waste of bandwidth. Thanks Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] N9NPU
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
2. I know there has been much traffic about the interface, but I think the best I've seen for this type of material is a nested list of packages. Start the top with all packages, then go to stable, contrib, non-free... After that break them down by group, i.e. admin, base, ... The thread that could tie all of these together is the ability to make some of these disapear. Yep that would be good. As I see it dselect/deity has three purposes. 1/ To install debian on a fresh system. This should be as simple and painless a process as possible. I would recommend sacrificing functionality for simplicity. This is *just* to get newbies installed and working. I'd do something like have 3 options. A developement box (nothing but baisc utilities and compilers), a network box (basic utilities and networking stuff, including prefered MTA and MUA etc) and a full install ( the two before plus X windows). 2/ To manage the packages that are installed or you want to be installed. This should be a nice friendly way of adding or removing packages. I think an X config option is overkill and would just go for a nice simple curses or slang interface... others may disagree... This is the meat of the program. It needs be easy enough to use by newbies (or relative newbies) but still have the advanced options that a power user would want. 3/ To upgrade your system to a new version of Debian. The basic option for this would download and then upgrade everypackage that was currently installed on your system. I favor the 'pine' method of making things easy. Ask questions all the time if they want to do somethign and allow the advanced user to turn all the *stupid* questions off. Adam. - Earthlight Communications Limited P.O. Box 5301 Adam Shand (fax) +64 3 477 5463 Dunedin, New Zealand Systems Manager(voice) +64 3 479 0303 http://www.earthlight.co.nz/larry/
Re: dump or taper for backups?
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:30:24 EDT Eloy A. Paris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ll.com) wrote: I would like to know which program Debian users recommend me to use. I am a little bit concerned about using dump since I read this in the changelog file in /usr/doc/dump: I remind you that dump and restore should be considered as software in BETA test. Don't rely too much on them for your backups... This is not very promissing, is it? Dump/restore worked fine for me so far (even the multi-volume dumps which the doc claims they don't work). Dump/restore has an overwhelming advantage over the afio/tar/cpio (or other wrapper interfaces around these): they keep track of deleted and moved inodes ! Phil.
lprng problem -- solved
I just gave up on apsfilter and used magicfilter instead. Everything worked instantly. I'd submit a bug report for apsfilter but I still don't have the foggiest idea what exactly was wrong. -- Jaldhar
Re: vi
On 14 Apr 1997, Kai Grossjohann wrote: Craig Sanders writes: vi: Craig 1G # move to start of file Craig /192.168.1 # search for 192.168.1 Craig 5cw192.168.200ESC # change 5 'words' to 192.168.2 Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig :x # save andexit emacs: M- ; go to beginning of file C-x ( ; start recording kbd macro C-s 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 M-b M-b M-b ; go back three words M-d M-d M-d ; delete three words 129.168.200 ; insert new string C-x ) ; end kbd macro C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat Nothing to do with modeless. vi: 37 keystrokes emacs: 40 keystrokes (if we count C-x or M-x as one; vi diesn't have all this C- and M- stuff). -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.
Re: pppd won't reset (or hang up) the modem
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Alexander Lobkovsky wrote: Hi, I don' think this came up before. My ISP changed to a pap style authorization and the only thigs I had to change was to add a 'user guest' line to the /etc/ppp.options_out file and a line '* * password' to the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file. Now the modem does not hang up if SIGINT is sent to pppd (it worked before). Is this a problem on my side or the ISP side? I tried to manually reset the modem (or hang up) so that I can stick this command into a disconnect script, to no avail, what am I doing incorrectly? I tried: I'm afraid I can't help you very much but I seem to be having the exact same problem. I also cannot get pppd to hangup. My ISP also uses pap. Perhaps this will give someone out there a clue as to what's going on? -- Jaldhar
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
Hee!!! The odds that Mr Iannarelli is starting this thread just to concentrate the flammage, flak and junk into one thread which he can easilly killfile is astronomical =) This is especially probable given his insistence on exact spelling in the subject... Hahahahahah What a lame thread. You are so obvious and apparent =) SirDibos On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Peter Iannarelli wrote: Hello all: This thread is being issued to provide all individuals and organizations an opportunity to voice their requirements and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse. Please ensure that DEITY TEAM -- is in the subject line as it will aid in tracking your responses. We will endeavor to take everyones requests and comments into account but that does not guarantee all requests will be implemented. Hahahahahahahha!
Re: vi
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: Ralph Winslow wrote: emacs: M- ; go to beginning of file C-x ( ; start recording kbd macro C-s 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 M-b M-b M-b ; go back three words M-d M-d M-d ; delete three words 129.168.200 ; insert new string C-x ) ; end kbd macro C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat I could care less what editor anybody (not in my patroll ;-) uses. I'm sending this for the benefit of the emacs user who wrote the above. I beg to differ the emacs case: M- ; go to beginning of file M-% ; query-replace 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 129.168.200 RET ; replace with 129.168.200 ! ; repeat for all occurrences This is fewer keystrokes than vi. If you don't want every occurrence changed, then you press one key to perform or another toskip each one as you see it. Well, in vi you can do: 1G Go to the beginning :%s/129.168.1/129.168.200/ (if I remember it right) Still better... Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.
Re: vi
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:34:53 +0300 Vadim Vygonets ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: Well, in vi you can do: 1GGo to the beginning :%s/129.168.1/129.168.200/(if I remember it right) Still better... To be a purist, the 1G isn't necessary. But your regexp will also match: 129016801 So it should be: :%s/129\.168\.1/129.168.200/g Phil.
Ping o' Death is killing pppd on my router.....
That just about somes it up If the router sends, receives or carries a ping flood (ping -f or ping -l 65510) pppd dies. I'm unable to hang-up the modem from anything I do in telnet. (serial ports have no DTR line) After I flash the power on the modem I can telnet in and /etc/init.d/ppp start and everything comes back up. Have I screwed up, or is something broken? Brain-Damage.psychosis.com (router): 486 40MHz 8mb. Boca 1008 serial board- USR Courier V.Everything - ISP 3Com 509B - subnet No HD. Booting off of custom disk and running out of 4mb ram disk. Root is based mostly on pure Deb scripts, and everything is version Deb 1.2.6 except start-stop-daemon, and busybox emulated commands. 2.0.29 kernel, with Newest IP Masquerade patch. -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/
Re: vi
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Philippe Troin wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:34:53 +0300 Vadim Vygonets ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: Well, in vi you can do: 1G Go to the beginning :%s/129.168.1/129.168.200/ (if I remember it right) Still better... To be a purist, the 1G isn't necessary. But your regexp will also match: 129016801 So it should be: :%s/129\.168\.1/129.168.200/g Yeah that's right. My fault. I said I don't exactly remember! Yerz Vad. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.
Re: vi
On Apr 14, Philippe Troin wrote : : On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:34:53 +0300 Vadim Vygonets ([EMAIL PROTECTED] : ) wrote: : : Well, in vi you can do: : 1G Go to the beginning : :%s/129.168.1/129.168.200/ (if I remember it right) : Still better... : : To be a purist, the 1G isn't necessary. : But your regexp will also match: : 129016801 : So it should be: : :%s/129\.168\.1/129.168.200/g Even better: :%s/\(192\.168\.\)1/\1200/g If you append a `c' you'll be asked every time the pattern matches. But this discussion tends to be religious ;-) Heiko -- email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp : A1 7D F6 7B 69 73 48 35 E1 DE 21 A7 A8 9A 77 92 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpqTINromcLt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vi
Yeah, I can see a Stanford - Berkeley ball game with one side yelling VI and then other side yelling EMACS ... or was it Giants and A's On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Heiko Schlittermann wrote: But this discussion tends to be religious ;-) Heiko -- email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp : A1 7D F6 7B 69 73 48 35 E1 DE 21 A7 A8 9A 77 92 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portmapper problems
Portmapper is usefull (and not essential) only for rpc apps. Ftp and telnet are not rpc programs and do not interact with portmapper. Check your ip connectivety, can you ping the other site? If no, check the network interface and route tables for both machines, then inspect the cable, io cards, or other harware. If ping succeeds, check the hosts.allow/deny again, and failing that check inetd and telnetd. I get this kind of problem all the time, but always, the mistake is mine. Normally, one card fails and interfaces get assigned in the wrong order to the wrong routes, or interupts and ioports get all mangled-up and chaos follows. First check if ping works while watching it with tcpdump. On Apr 13, Alex Romosan wrote i just realized that i cannot telnet/ftp into my machine although i can go out with no problems. i've checked to make sure the portmapper and inetd are running (they are). at the time i realized this is happening i was running netbase 2.12-1 but in the mean time i downgraded to 2.10-1 hoping this will solve the problem. i've checked hosts.allow hosts.deny (nothing changed there), everything is running as it should but i can't telnet/ftp into this machine. does anybody have any ideas? --alex-- -- Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida Signed pgp-key on key server.
hypermail and majordomo - error
Hey I'm using Debian 1.2, patched up to level 9, together with qmail-1.00, majordomo-1.94.1 (patched for use with qmail) and hypermail-1.02-2. I'm trying to get archives updated on the fly. Right now, I'm updated the hypermail archive every hour from an mbox-textfile. When I have a message sent to an alias which expands to | /usr/local/majordomo+qmail/wrapper hypermail -u -i -l Remco's test -d /home/users/remco/public_html/testinx (on 1 line) the archive isn't updated. Qmail is trying to executing the program, but finishes with an error: deferral: Aack,_child_crashed._(#4.3.0). When I give exactly this line on stdin, without the pipe, and enter some text, it works fine. Does anyone have any idea what's going wrong? thanks for your help! bye - R. // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks.
Re: modutils and recent kernels
Wichert Akkerman wrote: A warning to everyone trying to run new kernels: the current modutils implementation does not work with the latest kernel recent. For the stable kernels everything up to and including 2.0.29 seems to work fine. 2.0.30 however does not work. For the 2.1 series there is a new What exactly doesn't work? I'm using modutils 2.1.23 on kernel 2.0.30 without problems so far. Ulf -- #include signature
Re: modutils and recent kernels
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: A warning to everyone trying to run new kernels: the current modutils implementation does not work with the latest kernel recent. For the stable kernels everything up to and including 2.0.29 seems to work fine. 2.0.30 however does not work. For the 2.1 series there is a new What exactly doesn't work? I'm using modutils 2.1.23 on kernel 2.0.30 without problems so far. For me to. You might also want to try modutils-2.1.34, which was released last night. Download it from the common known sites, or, to give you link: ftp://oloon.student.utwente.nl/pub/linux/misc/modutils-2.1.34.tar.gz bye - R. // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks.
Re: MIT-Scheme 7.4.n
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Karl wrote: Karl I was thinking about trying to do my first Debian package, of Karl MIT-Scheme. I've found it to be the best scheme interpretter Karl out there for a person who is just beginning to learn the Karl language, since it's the one many of the Scheme textbooks Karl assume you have. And, I like its interface to the emacsen best. Karl Karl URL:http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/scheme-home.html Karl Karl When I went to ftp it, I found that they release a binary kit Karl that has an installer script. It worked on the first try, and I Karl was entering Scheme expressions in an editor window less than Karl 5 minutes after the download! So a package isn't *required* to Karl run this and get started with it. Karl Karl I would be nice to have the info's installed, and a simple Karl upgrade path. A menu to launch `edwin`, or to `gnuclient Karl '(run-scheme)'` maybe? Karl Karl After thinking about it a while; or trying to; I realize that I Karl honestly don't know enough about Linux and Debian to be able to Karl make a package. Back to my reading, folks. :-) I planed of packaging mit-scheme too. Please decide whether your are going to pkg it and let me know. thks, borik --- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Institute of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hebrew University Jerusalemhome: +972 2 6411880
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
This thread is being issued to provide all individuals and organizations an opportunity to voice their requirements and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse. Here's a simple one: the ability to create a tagfile. We had to install 25 Linux machines here a while ago and it is a pain to select to same package every time in dpkg. I would like to be table to create a file with a list of packages I want to install and then tell dselect on another machine to use a specific tagfile and go from there. Wichert.
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:00:00 +0200 Wichert Akkerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This thread is being issued to provide all individuals and organizations an opportunity to voice their requirements and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse. Here's a simple one: the ability to create a tagfile. We had to install 25 Linux machines here a while ago and it is a pain to select to same package every time in dpkg. I would like to be table to create a file with a list of packages I want to install and then tell dselect on another machine to use a specific tagfile and go from there. dpkg --get-selections dpkg --set-selections Phil.
Uninstalling StarOffice-3.1
Anyone have any tips for uninstalling StarOffice-3.1? I've undone everything I did, but I don't know what the setup program did other than add the ~/StarOffice-3.1 directory. I guess my main worry is what setup did to the fonts. Thanks Paul Serice
Re: less in an xterm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I run less in an xterm, it seems to save the image of whatever is in the window, display whatever it's displaying, and then restore the image. [snip] You just have to use less -X. Or better, put -X in the environment variable called LESS, so that less never restores the display. If you don't want any programs doing this in an xterm, you can also remove the codes from the terminfo file for xterm, or put XTerm*titeInhibit: true in your /etc/X11/Xresources (or ~/.Xresources maybe). -- Carey Evans * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Double, double, toil and trouble, / Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
Cheap bytes CDROM
I purchased on of the Cheap bytes CDs a few weeks back (Debian 1.2) and want to report on my success using it. My problem: I wanted to make a full blown recovery system by using a EZ 135 removable SCSI HD. Solution: I did an initial install from the CD to the EZ135. I partitioned the drive into a small swap (32Mb) and left the rest (~100Mb) for root. All one partition. I generated the rescue, driver and base disks from Windows 95 using the rawrite2.exe program. I then booted the rescue disk and installed the system with only one minor glitch, that I caused. I didn't even try to change the dselect packages, instead I went directly to install after selecting access mode, etc. Dselect complained about perl, but all went pretty well. It took all of the 100 Mb of disk. I had less than 1 Mb left on disk after it finished. I then removed all of the TeX related stuff, all of the mail related stuff and a couple of other unnecessary packages. It looks good. Congrats, folks. This is the first time in 3 years that I have actually done an install without giving up on dselect and using dpkg. Of course, I didn't really use dselect. 8^) I was surprised how quickly it installed. In the past the default boot disks have paused for long periods of time and/or died when it got confused about the hardware configuration, but this time it worked flawlessly. Thought I'd express my gratitude for a job well done and tell everyone that the Cheap bytes CD seems to work, in at least one case without error. Jim. -- Jim Lynch, System Engineer, SGI/Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Federal Business Systems, Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269
DEITY TEAM
Wichert Akkerman writes: [snip for brevity] Here's a simple one: the ability to create a tagfile. We had to install 25 Linux machines here a while ago and it is a pain to select to same package every time in dpkg. I would like to be table to create a file with a list of packages I want to install and then tell dselect on another machine to use a specific tagfile and go from there. I envision a dual install system. Dselect would remain, and a new deity would incorporate the desired functionality. I agree with the above. And take it one step further, Instead of giving dpkg a carte blanc install instruction, use the ordered by dependency tag list and spoon feed dpkg each install sequence. Doing this method would accomplish 1) correct the first time installation (asuming the developers are keeping the dependencies current) _and_ 2) it should shorten the installation time since only the affected packages would be involved. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.2 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK - member of ARRL [EMAIL PROTECTED] --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.-
Restricting size of incoming mail
Hello everyone. My company has around 70 e-mail users of which some of them retrieve their e-mail via a dial-up (SLIP or PPP) connection. We are concerned about the size of e-mail messages because users are sending huge attachments in their messages so people dialing in stay connected for long times. This is very expensive since the calls are long distance. We are using Sendmail to send and Qpopper to retrieve mail. Is there a way to limit the size of mail boxes in a user per user basis? I already limited the size of incoming mail in a global basis (for everybody) but this is not what we want... Perhaps using quotas??? Any help will be, as always, appreciated. Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323
Re: Ping o' Death is killing pppd on my router.....
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:
That just about somes it up
If the router sends, receives or carries a ping flood (ping -f or ping -l
65510) pppd dies. I'm unable to hang-up the modem from anything I do in
telnet. (serial ports have no DTR line) After I flash the power on the modem
I can telnet in and /etc/init.d/ppp start and everything comes back up.
2.0.29 kernel, with Newest IP Masquerade patch.
Since you're running IP Masq, you've got IP firewalling enabled. Here's a
little something I use in my /etc/ppp/ip-up to:
1) Turn off ip forward (you might not want to do this in your situation..)
2) Flush the input rules
3) reject *any* ICMP headed for the ppp0 interface
4) reject tcp/udp packets headed for priveleged ports on my ppp0 addr.
I use that fun awk stuff since my dialup is a dynamically assigned IP
address.
PPP_ADDR=`ifconfig ppp0|grep inet|awk -F: '{print $2}'|awk -F '{print $1}'`
ipfwadm -F -p deny
ipfwadm -I -f
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P icmp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D ${PPP_ADDR}/32
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D ${PPP_ADDR}/32 1:1023
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D ${PPP_ADDR}/32 1:1023
Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy
My employers like me, but not| and genius. We aim to erase that line
enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown
http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
Re: hypermail and majordomo - error
On Apr 15, Remco van de Meent wrote I'm using Debian 1.2, patched up to level 9, together with qmail-1.00, majordomo-1.94.1 (patched for use with qmail) and hypermail-1.02-2. Once upon a long ago, the Debian lists' web archive was based on hypermail. Unfortunately, hypermail began to exhibit core dumps on large archives. the archive isn't updated. Qmail is trying to executing the program, but finishes with an error: deferral: Aack,_child_crashed._(#4.3.0). Check for core dumps. You might want to consider doing your archives using MHonArc instead of hypermail. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
How do you guys read news offline?
Hi! I thought about using suck to download the news articles I am interested in as soon as a PPP is up. But how do I post my own articles back to the net? I would really be grateful if someone could post his/her working setup. Thanks a lot in advance! Andy. Andy Spiegl, PhD Student, Technical University, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de/~spiegl
Re: How do you guys read news offline?
On Apr 15, Andy Spiegl wrote I thought about using suck to download the news articles I am interested in as soon as a PPP is up. But how do I post my own articles back to the net? I would really be grateful if someone could post his/her working setup. If you have INN up and running, try nntpsend. Otherwise the should be a hint in suck's documentation. Regards, Joey -- Individual Network e.V._/OrgaTech KG i.Gr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geschaeftszeit: Di+Mi+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556
User access to /dev/fd0* with mtools_3.5a-1
Hello yesterday the upgrade to version 1.2.9 was done at my home box resulting in user access problems to /dev/fd0 which are 660 as default using mtools. I remember with debian version 1.2.2 I fixed this problem setting the binary of mtools to ownership of root.floppy and having the set uid bit set to the group. But this doesn't work anymore with mtools-3.5a. Is this the wrong was, do I have to change the permissions of the floppydevices to 666? Or did I miss something else? Peter -- -- Peter Weiss, Sonnenstraße 17, D-26123 Oldenburg, Tel: 0441/ 81058 http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de:/~weissp -- -- Slow has got 4 letters so has calm; speed has got 5 letters so has death -- --
Re: How do you guys read news offline?
On 15 Apr 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote: Hi! I thought about using suck to download the news articles I am interested in as soon as a PPP is up. But how do I post my own articles back to the net? I would really be grateful if someone could post his/her working setup. Thanks a lot in advance! Andy. Andy Spiegl, PhD Student, Technical University, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de/~spiegl Check out leafnode, works great here. I use pine to actually read the mail. Leafnode handles d/l the groups I read. Nice little program. Richard Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] === It was as small as the hope in a dead man's eyes.
Re: pppd won't reset (or hang up) the modem
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Alexander Lobkovsky wrote: Hi, I don' think this came up before. My ISP changed to a pap style authorization and the only thigs I had to change was to add a 'user guest' line to the /etc/ppp.options_out file and a line '* * password' to the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file. Now the modem does not hang up if SIGINT is sent to pppd (it worked before). Is this a problem on my side or the ISP side? I tried to manually reset the modem (or hang up) so that I can stick this command into a disconnect script, to no avail, what am I doing incorrectly? I tried: I'm afraid I can't help you very much but I seem to be having the exact same problem. I also cannot get pppd to hangup. My ISP also uses pap. Perhaps this will give someone out there a clue as to what's going on? -- Jaldhar Turn on debugging (pass 'debug' in options or on command line). Do you see a mesage in /var/log/ppp.log which says Terminating on signal %d. ?? I'm wondering if this is more of a timeout problem. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dazed beta kernels
I have to run beta kernels to get support for my hardware and they work pretty well. But, everyone I've compiled always complains that CONFIG_MIDI has not been declared or defined ... Does anyone have any idea what I have to do to get it working? The kernels compile and run, of course the midi stuff isn't happy. I usually use xconfig to config and I've tried separate makes in the ...drivers/sound dir. But, I can't find it. Thanks! We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
Re: Restricting size of incoming mail
Hi, At 10:43 AM 4/15/97 -0400, Paul Wade wrote: This is because they are using a remote email client (netscape, etc.)? If so that is a big part of the problem. Right, we use a POP-3 client like Eudora or Netscape Mail to retrieve mail. Is this being caused because of spam and junk email? No, the problem is that users do not follow the policies of not sending e-mail attachments to users that retrieve mail via a dial-in connection. A temporary remedy is to use a shell and pine to delete the basura from the mailbox and then retreive the remaining messages with the client program. I have been thinking about using procmail. Quotas will possibly prevent important mail from being viewed if it arrives after mail with large attachments. Uhhmmm... you are absoluteli right, I had't thought about this. This leads me to think that a want to limit the size of incoming mail (in a user per user basis), not the size of the mail box. Some users can only send and receive files as email attachments. They are mulas and will not learn ftp. I want them to use FTP whenever they want to send a huge document. FTP should be more efficient. At least it doesn't increase the size of the file by applying a codification algorithm (like UUCode or MIME.) Thanks for the help. E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 Cel.: +58-16-234700 Where does this path lead? said Alice Depends on where you want to go. Said the cat (Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll.)
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
Probably I'm going to say the obvious, but... On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Rob MacWilliams wrote: 2. I know there has been much traffic about the interface [...] Now all that is needed is a keystroke sequence to open and close the categories. The closest piece of software out now that would be similar is the Netscape News Window. That would be really nice to have. *Personally* (don't quote me ;-) I like the Windows Explorer way: left pane with collapsible directories, right pane with stuff, and add one bottom pane for information... much like current dselect but a bit more organized, and FASTER, PLEASE. I'm not into that pre-configured idea, but I know many users would like to have it. It's nice, but please let me customize it. For example, in a developers environment I want C, and Fortran, with all the programs that are needed (things such as make, developers' libraries, and an editor that understands C, not necessarily Emacs), but I DON'T want Phyton, or Tcl/Tk, or C++ (I'd like to have the time to learn all those, but heck, I have some work to do, too). Possible categories are: Desktop, Network, TeX, Developers, GUI (be that KDE or X+properly configured window manager like AfterStep, fvwm2, others). Mixing of categories should be allowed. There has been some talk about how to implement this, but I guess you'll need to create some configuration packages, i.e., packages that provide just configurations, and depend on other packages. But more important is a recent thread on this group: NFS installations, in the sense that Debian could be the first distribution that supports site installations. We already provide packages for NIS, NFS root booting, cfengine, and things like that, but in my experience, these are not plug-and-play kind of things. Lots of people have devised methods for maintaining networks of Debian machines, but we still lack a generic solution. We need something in the lines of: install the server machines, make groups, and choose what to propagate to the different groups. For example, the server may have Apache installed (because of dwww, for example), but not the clients. In this scenario dpkg --get-selections ... fails because it will install Apache on the clients which is not needed. NFS-root works, but it has one small problem, it shares root. And NFS booting can be a pain sometimes. Also, someone already mentioned this: one must be able to choose what to share, say /usr and /var, but not /usr/local, without much hassle. Obviously this is monolithic work, but Debian's meant to be The Universal OS, isn't it? I hope this helps. Marcelo Magallon
Re: How do you guys read news offline?
suck has an rpost function. On 15 Apr 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote: Hi! I thought about using suck to download the news articles I am interested in as soon as a PPP is up. But how do I post my own articles back to the net? I would really be grateful if someone could post his/her working setup. Thanks a lot in advance! Andy. Andy Spiegl, PhD Student, Technical University, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de/~spiegl George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
The odds that Mr Iannarelli is starting this thread just to concentrate the flammage, flak and junk into one thread which he can easilly killfile is astronomical =) This is especially probable given his insistence on exact spelling in the subject... Excuse me, but this is completely uncalled for and the only true point is about concentrating things into one thread. Nobody is killfiling anything, except possibly your name if this is is the only thing you have to say. If you have something constructive to say, then please go ahead. If not, then don't waste our time. We have work to do. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- It's not the days in your life, but the life in your days that counts.
Re: How do you guys read news offline?
On 15 Apr 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote: Hi! I thought about using suck to download the news articles I am interested in as soon as a PPP is up. But how do I post my own articles back to the net? I would really be grateful if someone could post his/her working setup. Thanks a lot in advance! Andy. While you're at it, tell us how to post from pine but override the from header. I would like to mangle my address whenever it goes to newsgroups, but not on normal mail. I see a lot of people doing this and putting instructions in the signature to unmangle it. I know with netscape it is a PITA - you have to go to the options and change things back and forth. If I get any more of these get rich quick opportunities, I will have to buy a bank of my own :-) If you know of such an opportunity send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Re: problem: client/server file sharing
Michael J Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: something I need to do in the etc/passwd file to get the client to recognize the users and passwords? Make sure you run `make' in /var/yp after you add users to the system. This will update the NIS maps. Also, make sure you have the following line at the end of /etc/passwd- +:: and /etc/group +::: Cheers, Graeme
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Wichert Akkerman wrote: This thread is being issued to provide all individuals and organizations an opportunity to voice their requirements and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse. Here's a simple one: the ability to create a tagfile. We had to install 25 Linux machines here a while ago and it is a pain to select to same package every time in dpkg. I would like to be table to create a file with a list of packages I want to install and then tell dselect on another machine to use a specific tagfile and go from there. Isn't this already available with get_selections and set_selections? Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_-
Re: pppd won't reset (or hang up) the modem
Yes, ppp.log says terminating on signal ... Perhaps the key piece of evidence is that everything *used* to work fine until I had to switch to pap-style authorization. Turn on debugging (pass 'debug' in options or on command line). Do you see a mesage in /var/log/ppp.log which says Terminating on signal %d. ?? I'm wondering if this is more of a timeout problem. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copy Debian in CD
Is legal if I copy the full DEBIAN distribution in a CD (ftp.debian.org) and I give the CD to my friend? Can I copy the non-free directory too? I leave in Italy Thanks and bye. Andrea Arcangeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.imola.queen.it/user/arcangeli/ Debian GNU _ _ _ ____ _ _ / \ / \/ \ /|/ \ /\\ \/// \ | | | || |\ ||| | || \ / | | | |_/\| || | \||| \_/| / \ \_/ \/\_/\_/ \|\//__/\\(_)
Re: bi
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a key point to make here is that regexps aren't difficult to learn because of vi, they are difficult to learn because they are complex - but you MUST learn them if you want to have any proficiency with unix. vi actually makes them easier to learn because you can play with them interactively. I do not know vi well but I do not see how it could be simpler than ctr-alt-s in emacs. There, while you are filling the regular expression you can see the text that the incomplete regular expression is matching. If you put one letter more and the matching you had does not match anymore, it goes to next ocurrence of that regular expression you have in the text. -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil
Re: How do you guys read news offline?
I thought about using suck to download the news articles I am interested in as soon as a PPP is up. But how do I post my own articles back to the net? I would really be grateful if someone could post his/her working setup. I use leafnode in conjunction with diald to allow for unattended retrieval and posting of new articles. My setup is as follows: 1) Comment out the commands that Debian sets up in /etc/cron.daily/leafnode. I do this because I want to retrieve more frequently than once a day to balance the load and because I like my postings to go out sometime in the near future. 2) Set up a crontab for user news like the one in attachment #1. As root, crontab -u news -e. This will give you more flexible scheduling. 3) If you look at the attached crontab file, you'll see I run a script called /etc/leafnode.fetch. This script is provided as atttachment #2. Personally, I don't like leafnode's ability to download newsgroups based upon which ones have been read lately. I just want it to download the few I read -- even if I only read them once every two months. Paul Serice = ATTACHMENT #1: crontab for user news = # min hrdom moy dow command 0 0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22 * * * /etc/leafnode.fetch 35 3* * * /usr/sbin/texpire = ATTACHMENT #2: /etc/leafnode.fetch = #!/bin/sh # # MY NOTES: leafnode automatically keeps track of which newsgroups #have been requested lately in #/var/spool/news/interesting.groups by touching a file #with the same name as the newsgroup. leafnode will not #retrieve news from a newsgroup that has not been #touched lately. By running this script right before #fetch runs, you'll be able to specify which newsgroups #to read, and you won't have to worry about a newsgroup #being forgotten just because it hasn't been read lately. # # IMPORTANT: This file is automatically run periodically from the #crontab for user news. # cd /var/spool/news rm -rf interesting.groups mkdir interesting.groups chown news.news interesting.groups chmod 755 interesting.groups cd interesting.groups touch comp.lang.c touch comp.lang.c.moderated touch comp.lang.c++ touch comp.lang.c++.moderated touch comp.os.linux.advocacy touch comp.os.linux.announce touch comp.os.linux.answers touch comp.os.linux.development.apps touch comp.os.linux.development.system touch comp.os.linux.hardware touch comp.os.linux.m68k touch comp.os.linux.misc touch comp.os.linux.networking touch comp.os.linux.setup touch comp.os.linux.x touch comp.os.ms-windows.announce touch comp.os.os2.announce touch comp.protocols.nfs touch comp.protocols.smb touch comp.protocols.time.ntp touch comp.windows.x touch comp.windows.x.announce touch comp.windows.x.apps touch comp.windows.x.i386unix touch comp.windows.x.intrinsics touch comp.windows.x.motif touch rec.humor.funny touch rec.humor.funny.reruns exec /usr/sbin/fetch -v
AT cards: which one?
Hi, I've found a brochure by Allied Telesyn saying that linux supports these netcards: at1500 at2000 (ne2000 clone) at2560 (10/100 Mbit, PCI) I'm surprised, since I've never seen at2560 supported by kernel, and it mentions at1700 as not supported (and I know they are). Did anybody try at2560? Which result? What about at1700? TIA -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
Adam Shand writes: This is *just* to get newbies installed and working. I'd do something like have 3 options. A developement box (nothing but baisc utilities and compilers),... How many newbies are going to want this? ...a network box (basic utilities and networking stuff, including prefered MTA and MUA etc) ... Since you left out X, I assume that this box is meant as a network server. For a newbie? ...and a full install ( the two before plus X windows). Thus the the true newbie, who wants most of all to dial up her ISP and use her browser, is forced to do a full install. I suggest: 1) Basic Unix, with enough dev stuff to compile a kernel. *No* networking. 2) 1), plus basic networking (MTA MUA, but no servers). 3) 1), plus X. 4) 2), plus X. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Which pentium: 200, PRO 200, or MMX 200?
I might have to give my aging P133 to my wife and buy a new PC. :-) I stopped keeping cuurent with these things. Which runs Linux the best: 200, PRO 200, or MMX 200? -- ...RickM...
Re: Which pentium: 200, PRO 200, or MMX 200?
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: I might have to give my aging P133 to my wife and buy a new PC. :-) I stopped keeping cuurent with these things. Which runs Linux the best: 200, PRO 200, or MMX 200? Pro 200. 200 and 200 MMX will run it the same. MMX has extensions for multi-media, but no more raw processing power. I can sell ya a P-Pro 200 system too, if you are interested : --- Ninja --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Shand writes: This is *just* to get newbies installed and working. I'd do something like have 3 options. A developement box (nothing but baisc utilities and compilers),... How many newbies are going to want this? I suggest: 1) Basic Unix, with enough dev stuff to compile a kernel. *No* networking. 2) 1), plus basic networking (MTA MUA, but no servers). 3) 1), plus X. 4) 2), plus X. I don't have the context of the original suggestion handy. Has anybody suggested that the tool simply supports externally-defined package sets? Then, any number of configurations can be defined and offered in distributions, web sites/archives, etc. The DEITY team needs only to provide a general capability and not get into the battle of actually defining the packages. Of course, the tool would help as expected by ensuring dependency existence and ordering and all that. -- ...RickM...
Oracle on Linux - Install Scripts
Subject: Oracle on Linux - Install scripts Has anyone been successfull installing Oracle7.3 Workgroup server for UnixWare or Oracle Webserver 2.1 on Linux (RedHat, Debian or Caldera) and care to share your experience/install scripts? I know that it has been done on SCO UNIX and there is a document that outlines the process. (I'm looking to do it on UnixWare 2.1) I know that I need iBCS package but has anyone written a HOWTO or step by step procedure to do this? I looked at the Oracle7.3 install scripts and it looks like they will have to be rewritten entirely. Any pointers will be appreciated. Please email me directly or CC: when you post. Exact version is Oracle7 Workgroup Server 7.3.2.2.0 for UnixWare Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppd won't reset (or hang up) the modem
Alexander Lobkovsky wrote: Yes, ppp.log says terminating on signal ... Perhaps the key piece of evidence is that everything *used* to work fine until I had to switch to pap-style authorization. Turn on debugging (pass 'debug' in options or on command line). Do you see a mesage in /var/log/ppp.log which says Terminating on signal %d. ?? I'm wondering if this is more of a timeout problem. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok. I'm asking because I've got the source tree here and I had to debug a nasty one myself a short while ago. Another question: do you use the passive or silent options? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tcpdump
Anyone using tcpdump or an 'ip-watcher' program on a tokenring based network ?? I can't find support for it anywhere... Matthew
Re: Oracle on Linux - Install Scripts
I have not know how to do what you ask but you might find useful an article that appeared in the Linux Means Bussiness section of The Linux Journal, issue November 1996. The article is called Running Progress on Linux. They also use the iBCS package. Good luck. E.- Subject: Oracle on Linux - Install scripts Has anyone been successfull installing Oracle7.3 Workgroup server for UnixWare or Oracle Webserver 2.1 on Linux (RedHat, Debian or Caldera) and care to share your experience/install scripts? I know that it has been done on SCO UNIX and there is a document that outlines the process. (I'm looking to do it on UnixWare 2.1) I know that I need iBCS package but has anyone written a HOWTO or step by step procedure to do this? I looked at the Oracle7.3 install scripts and it looks like they will have to be rewritten entirely. Any pointers will be appreciated. Please email me directly or CC: when you post. Exact version is Oracle7 Workgroup Server 7.3.2.2.0 for UnixWare Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323
boot problems
Hi I am having trouble booting my linux box. when i do boot my system is
fine until it gets to the partition check. it says that /dev/hda3 has
errors in its file system. It puts me into single user mode and tells me
to fsck /dev/hda3. When i do that it gives me the following errors:
hda: irq timed out status=0xd0 {busy}
ide0: reset timed out status 0xd0
hda: drive not ready
my system has the following configurations.
pentium-100mz
48mg ram
fujitsu 2.57gig hard drive
cirrus logic 5430 1mg video card
kingston eathernet card
i installed the 2.0.27 kernal from disks on jan.18/97
thanking you in advance and help
Paul McDermott | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: routing setup question
My first question would be are these valid IP addresses or did you pick arbitrary addresses for your local systems? As that question was asked by several people, the 192.168.101.x addresses are arbritrary addresses for my own subnet. The 193.135.252.47 and 193.135.252.179 were addresses assigned to me by my ISP. Both are routed from his machine, so if I try a traceroute from icemark to firefrancs new address without setting the host-route for .179 to my second machine first, the traceroute packets just 'run in circles' between icemark and lisa. Still, there's one host at thenet that still needs to be configured properly (traceroute from the outside currently stops before reaching lisa, but that will be fixed soon). The problem on my own system can't currently be solved by thenet, as their linux guy is on a holiday at the moment... lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc ppp0193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47 eth0192.168.101.1 192.168.101.2 [...] The new setup should look like: ISP My systems lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc.thenet.ch --- ppp0 --- --- eth0 --- 193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47 193.135.252.179 Two people here suggested, that I might route the .179 address along the 192.168.101.0 network, but both couldn't tell me exactly how the icemark needs to be set up, so that packets leaving firefranc out to the internet have the proper sender address (193.135.252.179)... Any more ideas anyone? Benedikt signoff --- Benedikt Eric Heinen - Muehlemattstrasse 53 - CH3007 Bern - SWITZERLAND email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Adam Shand writes: This is *just* to get newbies installed and working. I'd do something like have 3 options. ... ...and a full install ( the two before plus X windows). Thus the the true newbie, who wants most of all to dial up her ISP and use her browser, is forced to do a full install. I suggest: 1) Basic Unix, with enough dev stuff to compile a kernel. *No* networking. 2) 1), plus basic networking (MTA MUA, but no servers). For a newbie who only wants to pop his mail Netscrape? :) Actually the idea of meta-packages was kinda nice and easily incorporated into the existing dependencies mechanism. Dimitri
Re: vi
Wow, you guys sure think fast :) But I know where you are coming from. I am a pretty speedy typist and have often been annoyed by odd keys. Now I am wondering: is there an easy way with emacs or some other editor to assign a short string to a 'wierd key'? I hate parenthesies for example (I can't even speell them). It would be nice if I could just type pn and have it immediately subbed out for the char (. cn could close it. Anything out there that lets you set things like this? On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Vadim Vygonets wrote: On 14 Apr 1997, Kai Grossjohann wrote: Craig Sanders writes: vi: Craig 1G # move to start of file Craig /192.168.1 # search for 192.168.1 Craig 5cw192.168.200ESC # change 5 'words' to 192.168.2 Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig n # find next Craig . # repeat change Craig :x # save andexit emacs: M- ; go to beginning of file C-x ( ; start recording kbd macro C-s 129.168.1 RET ; search for 192.168.1 M-b M-b M-b ; go back three words M-d M-d M-d ; delete three words 129.168.200 ; insert new string C-x ) ; end kbd macro C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat C-x e ; repeat Nothing to do with modeless. vi: 37 keystrokes emacs: 40 keystrokes (if we count C-x or M-x as one; vi diesn't have all this C- and M- stuff). -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.
RE: PPP Configuration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Look in /etc/ppp dir. And /etc/ppp.chatscript, /etc/ppp.options_out. Then use pon and poff On 13-Apr-97 Geoff R Deasey wrote: Is there a tool to set up ppp links or should I be doing things like #!/bin/sh PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin pppd connect chat -v -f /etc/ppp.chatscript /dev/ttyS0 38400 modem crtscts etc... I dont have this working yet but, this should be enough to get the idea across... -Jeff Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 15-Apr-97 Time: 15:51:00 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM1PcJAi+Ph+i3TgpAQF2kwQArXfuDRq1Iijpk7UXWn7K47d3o4yoo+Mf STHG7HQu9d0nIxZk8BkWNkfLGihujT7qX7Ag6m8ViqDONtKPbacUTJ680tye3voM brKdFX+FMWqLhv0yCsbusaGPNBFAT3noyNI5S3o2gXQIjNyONPZ6RCmQlP6WLFSK N/K9ipsCmfg= =Knpz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
Peter, Thank you for request for ideas and desires regarding the next improvement to the debian package management system. 1. Scripts provided by the package writer should only have access to files and directories specifically approved by the installer. 2. Most packages do not need to alter existing system directories or files, and should be installed and tested by an unprivelaged user (specified by the installer) in a directory chosen by the installer, and under which package scripts can create and modify files. 3. After testing, the installer should use ln -s, ln, or cp (as chosen by the installer) to integrate the package executables and files into the system. Ray Ingles and I, have spent some time discussing improvements to dpkg/dselect to permit users to take advantage of its dependency tracking without the security vulnerability entailed in always running it as root. The following is a first draft of a processing model (similar to the ISO network model) that hopes to provide the following: 1. Host selectable security - the installer chooses what level of trust (unprivelaged, privelaged, root) to grant to the package scripts. 2. Host testing - before the package is seen by other users, the installer can test the package 3. Portability - package writer can assume a single (or small number) of directories in which to create, modify, compile, configure, files and executables, independent of the platform or host cut here * Project: debian File:RFC: dpkg target model Author: Raymond A. Ingles Dr. Robert J. Meier, Jr. History: 97-04-03 -rjm- file creation * Goals ** ease of use The package provider and the installation process should automate as much of the installation and removal as feasible for ease of use. All operations should have defaults to support ease of use. ** security As far as possible, malicious or buggy package installation should not endanger existing installations. All default operations should be defined by the install procedure so as not to endanger existing installations. All package-suggested operation parameters must be individually approvable by the human installer. Successful or unsuccessful installation is completely reversible. ** flexibility As far as possible, package installation should be configurable by the host to meet individual user needs and concerns. As far as possible, package installation should be configurable by the host to meet individual package needs and concerns. All install operation parameters should be selectable by the installer. All install operation parameters should be suggestible by the package. ** repeatability As far as possible, package installation should produce the same behavior on different hosts (e.g. the package provider and the user). By default, installation will be done under a single host-selected directory with an image equivalent on the user host to that to the package provider host. * For design purposes, installation is divided into the following phases. ** (Template) Each phase needs to answer the provide answers to each of the following questions. The answers must express the minimum/default/maximum supplied by/required from the package/host. *** System privileges *** Host information *** Package information *** Intended results *** Prior assumptions *** Actions *** Validation *** Customization ** Download *** System privileges Minimum supplied by host: write a host-specified file as $DOWNLOADER. Default supplied by host: write a host-specified file as $DOWNLOADER. Maximum supplied by host: write host-specified files as $DOWNLOADER *** Host information Minimum supplied by host: $PACKAGEROOT Default supplied by host: $PACKAGEROOT Maximum supplied by package: filenames *** Package information Minimum supplied by package: number and description of required files and directories. Default supplied by package: number and description of required files (1) and directories (1) *** Intended results Minimum supplied by host: transfer the package to local file system Default supplied by host: transfer the package to local file system Maximum supplied by host: transfer the package to local file system Minimum supplied by package: from package file Default supplied by package: ftp, cd-read, floppy-read Maximum supplied by package: from net, cd, floppies, tape, etc. *** Prior assumptions Minimum supplied by package: the complete package is transferrable as a single file Default supplied by package: the complete package is a compressed tar file *** Actions Minimum supplied by host: Create a specified file in (a directory chosen by host) writable by $DOWNLOADER. Default supplied by host:
Re: routing setup question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 15-Apr-97 Benedikt Eric Heinen wrote: are arbritrary addresses for my own subnet. The 193.135.252.47 and 193.135.252.179 were addresses assigned to me by my ISP. Both are routed from his machine, so if I try a traceroute from icemark to firefrancs new address without setting the host-route for .179 to my second machine first, the traceroute packets just 'run in circles' between icemark and lisa. Still, there's one host at thenet that still needs to be configured properly (traceroute from the outside currently stops before reaching lisa, but that will be fixed soon). The problem on my own system can't currently be solved by thenet, as their linux guy is on a holiday at the moment... You have to assign *.179 to eth0 on icemark - *.47 to eth0 on firefrancs. Assign ppp0 as default route on icemark and add *.179 to routing table so *.179 isn't sent out ppp0. Anything not in the routing table is sent out via the default route. Could explain the loop. Assign eth0 as default route on firefrancs. And until outside packets are routed properly you'll never know if it works. A traceroute from lisa should show lisa - icemark - firefranc. From icemark it should show icemark - firefrancs. This is the only checking you can do until the outside gateway is set up. My next question would be are those IP's arbitrary at the lisa machine? Is the lisa machine the server at your ISP? Strange that outside packets don't even reach lisa is why I ask. Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 15-Apr-97 Time: 16:10:29 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM1PgtQi+Ph+i3TgpAQE3PwP+NDQQoWPq6EDM0w8V2B22pppQUWRHPK7Y itq2YrjEBX/Kx198b5B9NGBUexCffDh7zXfaI8Ji7273txx7KU1qSA8uHGJ0B692 VHuFeCbFjL+2+bCB+N7uXDci7jBHi6G1mQd5XdFyKsYifgfjDqgXrwlAtsYIu6NO h00+Tb2Sv28= =ZE3L -END PGP SIGNATURE-
extracting tar with nonexistant users
Hello, I tried extracting a tar tape on a machine which did not have the same users as the machine on which the tar tape was created, it resulted in all the files created being owned by root. I would have expected that it should have created the files with the same uid/gids as on the original machine. Is this normal ? Thanks Lennard
Bo Package List
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- A few days ago I posted an example of dselect not clearing the selection list if a dir was replaced with another i.e. rex - bo. The example I used showed that even though I wanted bo I was getting unstable. I did some checking today and found, even though I thought it was a stupid idea to check, that the packages file under bo/binary-i386 points to unstable/binary-i386. I wouldn't think much of this discrepency except that there isn't an unstable directory on ftp.debian.org. If I remember correctly unstable was a link pointing to bo. Why would this file point to a link that points back to the directory it's in to begin with? I assume that the unstable dir was removed since bo is no longer conciderred unstable. What's up with the packages file pointing to unstable? How is it that others are installing bo and not run accross this yet? Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 15-Apr-97 Time: 16:27:36 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM1PkuAi+Ph+i3TgpAQFaBwP/TrXY5Wgq/JXaApE1A5ZWX2SVNjwyuwTN XVh/82VPzywxMYP3MNs+GxysYiAeK9koUpy1qYCm2u/4syJVwbYIjwlRBFIaNX9h sbnL2b3YpwENvusVS15tCE34p9qpsnNMdhRNkbVORYEqC9/bb1ol8+sP56/PO4UA GrzlgehrlBE= =OM/Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse.
This isn't quite about the interface, but about the package system
(may it just depends on the way it is implemented).
What I'd like to see is a way for the user to individuallt decide
whether he/she wants to install certain sections from a package.
sections are things like doc (/usr/doc?), man (/usr/man), lib
(/usr/lib?), dev-lib (compile-time libraries), binary, info
etc...
This again merges into a previous point I raised of combining a few
related packages into one (e.g. mgetty-{docs,fax,voice,}) and let the
user pick from inside it.
Reference - the SGI inst system.
Cheers,
--Amos
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Will the real vi please stand up?
It is generally agreed that any Unix user should be able to use vi, regardless of which editor he prefers to use regularly. Apparently vi doesn't exist in Debian - vim, nvi, and elvis (maybe others) all like to have a symlink named vi pointing to them. A year ago when I was running Slackware, I thought I learned enough about vi to use it, but not well. Then I found I was learning elvis, not vi. When I first installed Debian I tried using 'vi' (I don't remember which of the almost clones it really was) and found that some of the commands I was familiar with caused the famous unexpected results, so I gave up. Which of the vi semi-clones on Debian is most like the original vi and most likely to work on a broad range of unices? Bob
Re: extracting tar with nonexistant users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried extracting a tar tape on a machine which did not have the same users as the machine on which the tar tape was created, it resulted in all the files created being owned by root. I would have expected that it should have created the files with the same uid/gids as on the original machine. Yes. If you want to extract the same u/gids use the option --same-owner. Otherwise the files become the property of the extractor. Graeme
Re: Will the real vi please stand up?
It is generally agreed that any Unix user should be able to use vi, regardless of which editor he prefers to use regularly. Apparently the people who generated the debian rescue disk don't agree or the recent editor wars wouldn't have happened on this list. Which of the vi semi-clones on Debian is most like the original vi and most likely to work on a broad range of unices? I learned vi under SysVr3 and SysVr4 and didn't see much difference under Slackware/elvis. Vim does have some annoying differences but I can't remember the specifics. Emacs with viper-mode is pretty faithful too. Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will the real vi please stand up?
On Apr 15, Leslie Mikesell wrote It is generally agreed that any Unix user should be able to use vi, regardless of which editor he prefers to use regularly. Apparently the people who generated the debian rescue disk don't agree or the recent editor wars wouldn't have happened on this list. The main problem was that any of the vi-clone were too big for our small boot/root disk. That's all of it. This won't be changed I believe. End. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Re: vi
On Apr 15, Britton wrote
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: Wow, you guys sure think fast :) But I know where you are coming from. I
: am a pretty speedy typist and have often been annoyed by odd keys. Now I
: am wondering: is there an easy way with emacs or some other editor to
: assign a short string to a 'wierd key'? I hate parenthesies for example
: (I can't even speell them). It would be nice if I could just type pn and
: have it immediately subbed out for the char (. cn could close it.
: Anything out there that lets you set things like this?
In vi:
:map pn (
But now you'll get `(' every time you time pn. Unless `pn' is prefixed
with ^V.
Heiko
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Re: Will the real vi please stand up?
On Apr 15, Robert D. Hilliard wrote It is generally agreed that any Unix user should be able to use vi, regardless of which editor he prefers to use regularly. Apparently vi doesn't exist in Debian - vim, nvi, and elvis (maybe others) all like to have a symlink named vi pointing to them. A year ago when I was running Slackware, I thought I learned enough about vi to use it, but not well. Then I found I was learning elvis, not vi. When I first installed Debian I tried using 'vi' (I don't remember which of the almost clones it really was) and found that some of the commands I was familiar with caused the famous unexpected results, so I gave up. Which of the vi semi-clones on Debian is most like the original vi and most likely to work on a broad range of unices? Bob That's a pretty difficult question, since I'm not sure there are many around who remember that much about what vi originally looked like. However, vim has an option for running in vi-compatible mode. Put the line set compatible in your ~/.vimrc file. You're giving up an awful lot by doing so, though. - rick -- Richard Kilgore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electrical Computer Engineering | http://lore.ece.utexas.edu/~rkilgore/ The University of Texas at Austin | (512) 471-8011
Re: extracting tar with nonexistant users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I tried extracting a tar tape on a machine which did not have the same users as the machine on which the tar tape was created, it resulted in all the files created being owned by root. I would have expected that it should have created the files with the same uid/gids as on the original machine. Is this normal ? Thanks Lennard Tar normally munges the permissions (I think using your current umask) and makes all the files created belong to the user running tar. That is normal behavior. If you want the permissions/user-ids to be preserved (and no, it won't make a darn bit of difference if the users aren't defined on the machine, as it's the user-id number which is set on the file, and it doesn't have to be in /etc/passwd) then use the '-p' parameter for tar. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will the real vi please stand up?
Robert D. Hilliard wrote: It is generally agreed that any Unix user should be able to use vi, regardless of which editor he prefers to use regularly. It is generally agreed in the computing mainstream that that kind of assumption will keep unix out of the hands of the common computer-user. Of course, some unix gurus actually want this. Assuming that the Debian folks don't have this agenda, and assuming that there isn't room for two editors, keeping ae on the base disks is a good idea. Pico, minus the line-wrapping, would be even easier to use, but I see it's about 6 times bigger. -- -Mike Horansky, Leland Consultant (http://consult.stanford.edu/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] OPINIONS EXPRESSED BY ME ARE NOT NECESSARILY SHARED BY MY EMPLOYERS.
Re: bi
On 15 Apr 1997, Alair Pereira do Lago wrote: I do not know vi well but I do not see how it could be simpler than ctr-alt-s in emacs. There, while you are filling the regular expression you can see the text that the incomplete regular expression is matching. If you put one letter more and the matching you had does not match anymore, it goes to next ocurrence of that regular expression you have in the text. Two reasons emacs is slow: 1. Lisp (jed is faster than emacs because it uses S-Lang (however they spell it)). 2. It does too much things on your every keystroke (like that one above). You didn't type it in emacs, did you? Emacs auto-fill mode breaks at 70th character, and you typed about 79 per line. Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.
Re: Will the real vi please stand up?
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Leslie Mikesell wrote: I learned vi under SysVr3 and SysVr4 and didn't see much difference under Slackware/elvis. Vim does have some annoying differences but I can't remember the specifics. Emacs with viper-mode is pretty faithful too. Emacs emulating vi? The only good thing about emacs is that it's easy to learn. Emacs emulating vi is: 1. SLOW... 2. vi-like interface. 3. As far as i can remember, you must press ESC twice... Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.
Re: Will the real vi please stand up?
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, mike horansky wrote: It is generally agreed that any Unix user should be able to use vi, regardless of which editor he prefers to use regularly. It is generally agreed in the computing mainstream that that kind of assumption willkeep unix out of the hands of the common computer-user. Of course, some unix gurus actually want this. The first editor I learned under Unix was vi, and God I *was* a newbie. The right way to do it is teaching everyone the Mighty ed! The good thing about ed is that it works under *every* terminal. Vi works under most of them. If you want to use Emacs, you'd better find a terminal which handles Meta correctly and has Del in the canonical place (above Ret or something like that). Better yet, find a good X terminal (to get those nice menus). I just love compatibility. Assuming that the Debian folks don't have this agenda, and assuming that there isn't room for two editors, keeping ae on the base disks is a good idea. Pico, minus the line-wrapping, would be even easier to use, but I see it's about 6 times bigger. BTW why ed is bigger than ae? That's really weird. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root23656 Nov 13 20:32 /bin/ae* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root68300 Jan 31 01:45 /bin/ed* Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.
Help with using ISP name for email
I connect to the internet using my school PPP account which gives me a user name not very close to my real name and chose to use my first name to logon to my personal linux box. I would like to send email but have it come from my school email name and not my localhost name. I have already managed (using smail/mailx) to have the @hostname field changed but mail still comes from jason rather than jbi130 (my email username). To fix this I have starting using pine, I start it using sudo as user jbi130 on my home system but these becomes a pain (as far as file permissions) are concerned when add folders and deleting stuff and so on. Is there a better way to go about this. I use fetchmail ro retrieve from my POP3 server but I don't think this has any effect on the sending of the mail. Would a better solution maybe to sart using mh and exmh? Thanks for any help. Jason Ish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
