date:19970606

Dale Scheetz:
 The seesat5 package (a satellite tracking program) provides a little
 program called cr that will convert text files from DOS style carriage
 returns to Unix ones and back. Seesat5 needs the facility to incorporate
 DOS generated element files on the Linux file system without the extra ^M
 which causes problems for seesat5.

Gee, it's amazing how many of these programs debian has! 

The sysutils package contains fromdos and todos, which do what you'd
probably expect with the carriage returns. dos2unix and unix2dos are
alternate names for the same programs.

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No support of BIOS power management for SCSI disks?

1997-06-06 Thread Andy Spiegl

Hi,

I am running Debian 1.2 currently.  My ASUS motherboard supports
APM.  When I turn on the HDD power saving in the BIOS setup I don't
see (or should I write 'hear' :-) that any of my 2 SCSI disks is
turned off after a specific idle time.  So, I guess the BIOS only
supports IDE disks, right?

Is there any other way to tell my system that it should turn off
the disks if they are idle for more than let's say an hour?  Is
there a command at all to shutdown a SCSI disk?  Maybe something
like
 echo scsi turnoff-single-device 0 0 1 0  /proc/scsi/scsi

Or do you guys think it's better for the disks anyway if they are
left on all the time?  I heard that the most stressing times for
HDDs are the spin-up and spin-down times.  Any comments?

Thanks in advance,
 Andy.

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Re: Stupid Question: Striping Dos ^M From Texts

Here's a sed script that I've used for years on my old SCO Unix box.  I'm
not actually positive it works on Linux because I haven't tried it, but sed
is sed, right?...

It adds ^M's if they're missing and deletes them if found.  (i.e. one
script that will do both conversions)

sed -e '
s-^M--g
t
s+$+^M+
t
'  infile  outfile

One caveat -- infile and outfile **can't** be the same.

Later,

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Re: rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe


On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote:

 2) According to the HOWTO, you need to get winipcfg (or what ever it is
 called the probes the cable modem server for an ip address) to write out
 it's information to file using some switch (specifics listed in HOWTO).
 The HOWTO then goes on to instruct the user to boot to debian using
 loadlin. I don't do this this way and I assume that you can just use lilo
 as long as the partition where the winip output file is stored is
 accessible.

This is a hack to get around the fact that linux did not have a DHCPD
client. There is a debian dhcpcd (client daemon) package in bo, it should
be a matter of installing this package and watching as everything works ;
At least that is how dhcpd is suppost to work.

 1) Can one get dhcpcd to probe the server itself? I thought that this
 software basically replicated the winipcfg program.

This is what it was written to do.

 2) What ethernet driver should I use for a D-LINK 220? NE-2000?

D-Link 220's are PnP NE-2000 clones. If you get isapnptools you should be
able to configure the card in linux and then use the ne driver.

Jason


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Re: Netscape 3.01 128bit

1997-06-06 Thread Brian White

  For the record and mailing list archive;
  The 128bit versions of Netscape 3.01 and 3.01Gold do work with
  the currect Debian install package.
 
Would you happen to know if the latest beta (communicator-v40b5*) will
 work with the *.deb install shell?

Apparently not.  It's on my list of things to do.

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Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian

1997-06-06 Thread Dan Irvin

 How long would it have taken an experienced Linux user to do a quick
 install of three different distributions just to make sure something
 major wasn't missing? Maybe a day at most?

W install  all three distributions on our TRI-LINUX cd  on two different
boxes ... 
one that is all IDE and one that has a NCR SCSI and a AHA 1542. It takes 
about 3 hours when two of us are working on it. We then create a gold,
verify 
it bit for bit, and  test the install one more time.  Before we ship a
silver 
CD we do a bit for bit test again and usually install one of the three
distributions.

The Debian 1.3 install is much improved from previous versions.  It
autodetected the
subdirectory where I put the startup stuff and required only a single boot 
floppy.  A far cry from the 6 floppies needed in previous versions. I think
the quality and ease of the basic installation is now second to none.  


-Dan 

Linux System Labs (The Linux Publishing Company)
TRI-LINUX with Debian 1.3, Red Hat 4.2 and Slackware 3.2 is now shipping!
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Re: Netscape 3.01 128bit

1997-06-06 Thread Matthew Tebbens

There are 2 Netscape install packages, one for 3.01 versions, and one for
communicator BETA versions. I havn't tested the one for communicator.

Matthew

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:

  For the record and mailing list archive;
  The 128bit versions of Netscape 3.01 and 3.01Gold do work with 
  the currect Debian install package.
 
Would you happen to know if the latest beta (communicator-v40b5*) will
 work with the *.deb install shell?
 
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Re: No support of BIOS power management for SCSI disks?

1997-06-06 Thread Bruce Perens

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Spiegl)
 I am running Debian 1.2 currently.  My ASUS motherboard supports
 APM.

OK. First of all, you will have to build a custom kernel to get APM support,
as the generic kernel does not have it. Why? Because some machines have bad
APM BIOS and crash on installation if we leave it in. We know of at least
one laptop that does this.

 When I turn on the HDD power saving in the BIOS setup I don't
 see (or should I write 'hear' :-) that any of my 2 SCSI disks is
 turned off after a specific idle time.  So, I guess the BIOS only
 supports IDE disks, right?

Since Linux is not using the BIOS hard disk driver in any case, you
should not use the BIOS hard disk timeout. I'm not sure if the hdparm
tool will tell a SCSI disk when it can spin down or not. You might
install hwutils and try that.

Bruce

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[Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?

1997-06-06 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan

I have spent the last couple of hours trying to customize my fvwm2
setup.  I basically want to add stuff to the default menus that comes
with Debian.  I tried the following -

* Moved /usr/lib/menu/default/vim to /etc/menu/vim and ran
update-menus.  Then quit X and restarted it.  Don't find vim under
/Apps/Editors (which is where it is supposed to put in).

* Moved /usr/lib/menu/default/vim to ~/.menu/vim and did the same as
above.  Still no vim in my Apps/Editors

* Moved /usr/lib/menu/default/vim to /usr/lib/menu/vim (I know.  I am
not supposed to do that.  But just wanted to find out if update-menu was
broken).  Ran the update scripts and restarted X.  Still to no avail.

What am I missing?

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Re: video card driver (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread Bob Nielsen

On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Herbert Xu wrote:

 I'm forwarding this to debian-user.
 
 - Forwarded message from coteau -
 
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Jun  6 02:31:48 1997
 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 10:33:51 -0600
 From: coteau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: video card driver
 
 Hi There,
   I am installing linux debian on dell machine and it has a Matrox
 MGA Millennium PowerDesk video card and I haven't found any Matrox Video
 Cards in the database provided by the linux. If you please tell me which
 one in the closest match for the Matrox Video Card's driver, I'll really
 appreciate it.
   Sincerely,
   Riaz Khan

In /usr/lib/X11/Cards (bo), it indicates that the Matrox Millenium IS
supported.

Bob


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Re: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?

Sudhakar Chandrasekharan:
 I have spent the last couple of hours trying to customize my fvwm2
 setup.  I basically want to add stuff to the default menus that comes
 with Debian.  I tried the following -
 
 * Moved /usr/lib/menu/default/vim to /etc/menu/vim and ran
 update-menus.  Then quit X and restarted it.  Don't find vim under
 /Apps/Editors (which is where it is supposed to put in).

Do you have the vim package installed? I doubt it. If you look at
/etc/menu/vim, it probably starts with ?package(vim): which means that
unless package vim is installed, this menu entry will be ignored.

To add local stuff, try using ?package(menu): at the front of the line in
themenu file. Since the menu package is of course installed, the menu item
will show up. (There are probably better ways to do this..)

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Re: frozen unstable distribution problems

1997-06-06 Thread Francis C. Swasey

 Jim Pick writes:
  I believe Bruce has some official CD images that would better to use for
  the frozen (now stable) distribution.  I think it's a 2 disk set.
 
 Francis C. Swasey writes:
  If those are the images in the dist (or is it dists??) directory, the
  unstable one points at hamm, but hamm has lots of symbolic links back
  into bo.

 John Hasler writes: 
 I realize that it would use more disk space, but I really think that the CD
 images should contain no links.

I hope you mean no links out of the CD image itself.  There are lots of links 
within the various images that are harmless because they stay within the 
specific image.  The only image that has links pointing to another image at 
this time is the unstable one.  (hee hee, maybe that's why it's unstable ;) 
Oh well, pardon the sad attempt...

I agree that there should not be links from one CD image into another.  
However, there are, so I'm tweaking the scripts I use to generate my images to 
copy the necessary pieces of bo onto the unstable CD before I burn it.

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Re: Stupid Question: Striping Dos ^M From Texts

1997-06-06 Thread A. M. Varon

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 
 Somewhere in the dank recesses of my mind, I recall
 a utility that would strip the extra ^M's from a
 text file copied to a unix box. Well, it seems that
 Linux also considers these ^M's extranious, is there
 such a standard utility or do I have to dig even 
 deeper to remember sed/awk/grep commands?  :^

try the program fromdos.

Regards,

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Re: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?

1997-06-06 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan

Joey Hess wrote:
 Sudhakar Chandrasekharan:
  I have spent the last couple of hours trying to customize my fvwm2
  setup.  I basically want to add stuff to the default menus that comes
  with Debian.  I tried the following -
 
  * Moved /usr/lib/menu/default/vim to /etc/menu/vim and ran
  update-menus.  Then quit X and restarted it.  Don't find vim under
  /Apps/Editors (which is where it is supposed to put in).
 
 Do you have the vim package installed? I doubt it. If you look at
 /etc/menu/vim, it probably starts with ?package(vim): which means that
 unless package vim is installed, this menu entry will be ignored.

Oops!  Forgot to mention that.  I have installed the latest beta version
of vim under /usr/local/bin.

 To add local stuff, try using ?package(menu): at the front of the line in
 themenu file. Since the menu package is of course installed, the menu item
 will show up. (There are probably better ways to do this..)

That worked.  As you said, there *should* be another way to specify
local packages.  Though I can understand why update-menus does not add
an item if the package is not installed.

Another question.  I know this might be a FAQ.

If I want to install a package that is not part of the Debian
distribution, how do I go about it?  I think there are two scenarios
here -

* foo.tar.gz contains the binaries, libs etc.
* foo.tar.gz contains the source.  Ie. I have to compile the program
before I install it.


I have currently been bypassing the dpkg mechanism and installing these
packages under /usr/local tree.


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Re: video card driver (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread System Account

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Herbert Xu wrote:
 
  I'm forwarding this to debian-user.
  
  - Forwarded message from coteau -
  Hi There,
  I am installing linux debian on dell machine and it has a Matrox
  MGA Millennium PowerDesk video card and I haven't found any Matrox Video
  Cards in the database provided by the linux. If you please tell me which
  one in the closest match for the Matrox Video Card's driver, I'll really
  appreciate it.
  Sincerely,
  Riaz Khan
 In /usr/lib/X11/Cards (bo), it indicates that the Matrox Millenium IS
 supported.
 
 Bob
Hi there. I just bought this card last month and i used it on a Dell
aswell. It was in the /usr/lib/X11/Cards fill in 1.2 as the second last
entry:
 
# Matrox

NAME Matrox Millennium (MGA)
CHIPSET mga2064w
SERVER SVGA
NOCLOCKPROBE  

Hope this helps
-Rob


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Re: Stupid Question: Striping Dos ^M From Texts

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 Somewhere in the dank recesses of my mind, I recall
 a utility that would strip the extra ^M's from a
 text file copied to a unix box. Well, it seems that
 Linux also considers these ^M's extranious, is there
 such a standard utility or do I have to dig even 
 deeper to remember sed/awk/grep commands?  :^

The sysutils package contains the dos2unix (and unix2dos) commands which
will convert files in-place.  No need for wierd sed/awk/perl constructs.

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permissions

1997-06-06 Thread System Account

Hello all.

How can i set my logs (/var/log/) so they are not world readable?
I have tried chmod o-r messages (and others including ppp.log and
daemon.log) but after a reboot or when cron.daily runs some are agian
world readable. Is there anything that this would affect, other than the
general use of the last cmd for users? Also, are there any logs that need
to be readable by others?

TIA
-Rob


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Re: Broken nethack?

1997-06-06 Thread sacampbe

I updated to 1.3 last weekend and just recently ran NetHack.  NetHack
 -- which ran great before -- now gives a permission error of No write
 permission to lock /var/lib/games/nethack/perm!

This was a problem with an earlier version, but was fixed (I thought).
I don't remember which files had wrong permissions, but here
are the perms on the relevant files in /var/lib/games/nethack:

-rw-rw-r--   1 root games   0 May 27 03:02 perm
-rw-rw-r--   1 root games 217 Jun  4 11:04 record
drwxrwxr-x   2 root games1024 Jun  4 11:05 save/

and

drwxrwxr-x   3 root games1024 Jun  4 11:05 /var/lib/games/nethack/

I hope this helps.

- Sue


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Re: permissions

1997-06-06 Thread George Bonser


Dig around for things with names like cron.daily and cron.monthly in /etc.

If you look at the scripts, you will see things such as umask settings and
paramaters passed to the savelog command that look like -m 644.  These are
the permissions.  Edit them (but save the original line commented out or
save the original files in case you need to back out your changes).



On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, System Account wrote:

 Hello all.
 
   How can i set my logs (/var/log/) so they are not world readable?
 I have tried chmod o-r messages (and others including ppp.log and
 daemon.log) but after a reboot or when cron.daily runs some are agian
 world readable. Is there anything that this would affect, other than the
 general use of the last cmd for users? Also, are there any logs that need
 to be readable by others?
 
   TIA
   -Rob
 
 
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Re: Broken nethack?

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:

I updated to 1.3 last weekend and just recently ran NetHack.  NetHack
 -- which ran great before -- now gives a permission error of No write
 permission to lock /var/lib/games/nethack/perm!
 
Has anyone else gotten this or is this unique to me?
 
What, no Nethack?!  Now this is a serious error!  1.3 can't be released
 with this problem! :-)

It appears that that was a wierd glitch in the upgrade, purging and
re-installing nethack fixed that for me when I encountered it.


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Re: libc5 warnings on upgrade to 1.3

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Lee Bradshaw wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I was following the readme on the ftp site for upgrading.  ldso upgraded
 with no warnings, but I got the following messages when upgrading libc5.
 
 
 kayak2 /home/bradshaw/dnload # dpkg -i libc5_5.4.23-6.deb 
 (Reading database ... 15192 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace libc5 5.4.20-1 (using libc5_5.4.23-6.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement libc5 ...
 Setting up libc5 (5.4.23-6) ...
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or directory), 
 skipping
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or directory), 
 skipping
 
 Afterwards,
 
 /usr/lib/libc.so - /lib/libc.so.5.4.20  (doesn't exist)
 /usr/lib/libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5.0.7   (doesn't exist)
 
 /lib/libc.so.5 - libc.so.5.4.23(does exist)
 /lib/libm.so.5 - libm.so.5.0.8 (does exist)
 
 Can I just point /usr/lib/libc.so to /lib/libc.so.5, etc?  Will this
 always keep everything in sync?  Or should this links be to something
 else?
 
 Thanks to everyone for the suggestions on smail configuration last week.
 It's still not working the way I think it should, but I'm planning to
 look into sendmail soon.

Upgrade libc5-dev, it needs to stay in sync with libc5.  In general, the
dev and lib packages need to match version numbers.

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Network setup question again

Hi, 

Can anybody tell me what is the problem if the computer cannot
receive packets from other computer? I set all the configuration
file and IP address, hostname seems ok. I can 'ping'  myself,
but not other computers, also I can not ping from other computer
to mine. I am sure the physical connection is ok.

I figured out that though all the IP setting are fine, it can
 not find the  MAC (physical ether address) for those computers.
What else can I do here?

Thanks for your help.

-ctang  


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Were to put non-debian files (was: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?)

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 Another question.  I know this might be a FAQ.
 
 If I want to install a package that is not part of the Debian
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 here -
 
 * foo.tar.gz contains the binaries, libs etc.
 * foo.tar.gz contains the source.  Ie. I have to compile the program
 before I install it.
 
 
 I have currently been bypassing the dpkg mechanism and installing these
 packages under /usr/local tree.

You're doing it correctly, ideally all programs not installed from debian
(or redhat or slackware with alien) packages should be put under
/usr/local.  Debian won't touch files there, except for a few packages
that create empty directories where local add-ons can be placed (perl and
emacs/xemacs that I recall).

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Re: PPP Compression: Useful or Useless?

1997-06-06 Thread Adam Shand

I am not an expert here but I am pretty sure I am correct about this.
Please flame me if I'm wrong :)

First off, it was my impression that bsd_comp only affects ppp (TCP?)
headers.  It doesn't do any general data compression (so it wouldn't
try to compress the jpg data in a packet, just the headers).  I had
heard that it is essentially always a win.

No, the bsd_comp is link compression, it affect all traffic transmitted
over the PPP link.  Not all the many things support it.  What you are
thinking of is VJ Compression (Van Jacobson) which was the difference
between SLIP and CSLIP and is a standard part of PPP.  It compresses a 40
bit header to 8 bits(?) or something similar and is almost always a Good
Thing'.

 Note that compression protocols, while improving bandwidth, will
 always introduce some amount of latency since encoding/decoding
 takes compute time.

This really depends on how you define latency.  Let's say I want to

Well sorta.  Latency has a meaning :)  Latency is also known as propagation
delay and is a measurement of the *MINIMUM* amount of time that it can ever
take to transfer a packet over a link.  Modems have a relatively high
latency and ethernet has a low latency.

It is really easy to confuse latency and bandwidth, they are not the same.
For those that are interested there was quite a good article in TidBits a
while back.  You can read them at:

http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-367.html#lnk4
http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-368.html#lnk4


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Re: Network setup question again

1997-06-06 Thread Nathan E Norman

IS the driver for the NIC actually working?  Use ifconfig to see if
you're getting packet errors, or if the device is even configured.  0 RX
packets usually means something is bolloxed up in your configuration -
either the driver can't talk to the card because of a hardware conflict,
or it's making bas assumptions, etc.

I fought with an SMC 8013 today which had these problems.  Installing it
in a different ISA slot fixed the problems.  I don't know why :)

ps.  Between dmesg, ifconfig, and the proc filesystem you can poke
around and get a good idea of what Linux thinks is going on, and how
that meshes with what's supposed to be going on.

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:
:Can anybody tell me what is the problem if the computer cannot
:receive packets from other computer? I set all the configuration
:file and IP address, hostname seems ok. I can 'ping'  myself,
:but not other computers, also I can not ping from other computer
:to mine. I am sure the physical connection is ok.
:
:I figured out that though all the IP setting are fine, it can
: not find the  MAC (physical ether address) for those computers.
:What else can I do here?
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Re: gated file

1997-06-06 Thread Richard L Shepherd

I have now compiled gated (tried on another machine and it went no
problems, thought they were the same configstrange), and got it
running---good.  I have installed it on our internet exchange and it
listens to BGP nicely, including supernets---very good (no other OS's can
do that, that we have).

However: it does not seem to understand variable length subnet masks, as
given to it by the BGP server?  Instead it sets the BGP server as it's
next hop for those nets.  I would MOST like to solve this.  Is it a
problem with gated (I used options VARIABLE_MASKS), or is it a kernel
feature I need to explicitly turn on?

The way most of our other hosts cope with this problem is that they
receive a redirect from the BGP server so that they get the correct route
next time.  However my linux machine doesn't seem to learn these redirect
routes and continues to go the long way for these nets every single time!
This is not fatal, just rather inefficient!  This would not be an issue if
the first problem was solved but, if it can't be, this would be a second
best option ;-)

Does anyone have solutions to these?  PLease reply by email as well...TIA

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Re: Network setup question again

On Jun 6, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 ps.  Between dmesg, ifconfig, and the proc filesystem you can poke
 around and get a good idea of what Linux thinks is going on, and how
 that meshes with what's supposed to be going on.

Thanks for the suggestions. I check with all these commands.
Here is the message I get from those programs. They all seems pretty
well.

dmesg:
  NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x300 : 00 40 05 17 a9 a7
  eth0: NE2000 found at 0x300, using IRQ 3

ifconfig:
  eth0: Link encap 10Mbps Ethernet   HWaddr 00 40 05 17 a9 a7 
inet addr: 128.174.57.79 Bcast 128.174.255.255 Nmask 255.255.0.0
UP BROADCASTING RUNNING MULTICAST   MTU: 1500  Metric: 1
Rx packets:0  errors: 0 drops: 0  overruns: 0
Tx packets:87 errors: 0 drops: 0  overruns: 0
Interrupt 3 Base Address 0x300
route:
  Destination   Gateway   Genmask Flags   Metric  Ref  Use  Iface
  128.174.0.0*255.255.0.0 U0  05eth0
  127.0.0.0  *255.0.0.0   U0  02lo
  default   128.174.57.65  0.0.0.0UG   0  09eth0 

/proc/net/arp:
  IP address   HW type   FlagsHW address MaskDevice
  128.174.57.65  0x1   0x000 00 00 00 00 00 *

The only abnormal thing is that 'Device' in file /proc/net/arp is null. And
when using 'route', it takes a long time to display the third row 'default'.

So, what is the cause for this? Actually, the LAN works all the time. IS
the configuration not correct?

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Re: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:
 Joey Hess wrote:
  Sudhakar Chandrasekharan:
   I have spent the last couple of hours trying to customize my fvwm2
   setup.  I basically want to add stuff to the default menus that comes
   with Debian.  I tried the following -
  
   * Moved /usr/lib/menu/default/vim to /etc/menu/vim and ran
   update-menus.  Then quit X and restarted it.  Don't find vim under
   /Apps/Editors (which is where it is supposed to put in).

this isn't necessary... menu already looks in /usr/lib/menu/default

  To add local stuff, try using ?package(menu): at the front of the line in
  themenu file. Since the menu package is of course installed, the menu item
  will show up. (There are probably better ways to do this..)
 
 That worked.  As you said, there *should* be another way to specify
 local packages.  Though I can understand why update-menus does not add
 an item if the package is not installed.

yes, there is another, 'more proper' way.  rename the file to local-vim
and put it in /etc/menu.  anything that starts with 'local' is installed, 
regardless of what debian packages are installed. this is an inadequately
documented feature of menu (buried in a changelog file... hmpth :P )


 Another question.  I know this might be a FAQ.
 
 If I want to install a package that is not part of the Debian
 distribution, how do I go about it?  I think there are two scenarios
 
 I have currently been bypassing the dpkg mechanism and installing these
 packages under /usr/local tree.

that's the way to go.
of course, you can also use $HOME for user-specific stuff

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StarOffice and Fvwm95

1997-06-06 Thread Paul Serice

Oh boy.  I've downloaded and installed StarOffice.  I can't believe
they're giving this away.

Anyway, it runs fine.  The only thing is I'm having a difficult time
creating a menu item for fvwm95 minding, though, that it executes
properly when I just type in swriter3 in an xterm.

The entry in .fvwm95 I'm using looks like all the rest:

+ StarWriter  Exec swriter 


Would someone be so kind as to post their menu entry for any of the
StarOffice products.

Second question:  There don't appear to be any Debian specific Gotchas.
Has anyone run across something that could be hiding in the wings.

Oh yeah.  One other thing.  I'm curious to know if Debian has inquired
with StarDivision regarding distributing StarOffice as a Debian package
and what resulted.

Thanks
Paul


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afterstep

hi, i am having some trouble (with permissions?) starting up afterstep.
if i start it as root, there are no problems.  
if i start as a normal user, i get this:

velcro# cat /home/brad/.xsession-errors
sh: /tmp/steprcX: Permission denied
Cannot open m4-processed config file
: No such file or directory
xterm:  fatal IO error 2 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server :0.0

the /tmp/ thing is what throws me off.  /tmp is empty before and after i
try to start afterstep.
my system is basically 1.3.0

can anyone advise me on what to look for?

-brad

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Re: StarOffice and Fvwm95

On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Paul Serice wrote:

 Oh boy.  I've downloaded and installed StarOffice.  I can't believe
 they're giving this away.
 
 Anyway, it runs fine.  The only thing is I'm having a difficult time
 creating a menu item for fvwm95 minding, though, that it executes
 properly when I just type in swriter3 in an xterm.
 
 The entry in .fvwm95 I'm using looks like all the rest:
 
 + StarWriter  Exec swriter 
 
 
 Would someone be so kind as to post their menu entry for any of the
 StarOffice products.

are you using the debian menu package?  i put this in the file
/etc/menu/local-staroffice ---excuse the long lines
X11 Apps/StarOffice staroffice/scalc none SCalc 
/usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/scalc3
X11 Apps/StarOffice staroffice/schart none SChart 
/usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/schart3
X11 Apps/StarOffice staroffice/sdraw none SDraw 
/usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/sdraw3
X11 Apps/StarOffice staroffice/simage none SImage 
/usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/simage3
X11 Apps/StarOffice staroffice/smath none SMath 
/usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/smath3
X11 Apps/StarOffice staroffice/swriter none SWriter 
/usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3

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Re: PPP Compression: Useful or Useless?

1997-06-06 Thread Bruce Perens

Note that most modems these days make V.42 compression, which is LZW.
BSD compression would be redundant.

Van Jacobsen compression is, however, good to use on a V.42 connection.
It takes advantage of the redundancy of frame information in a point-to-point
connection from one packet to the next to reduce the size of the header.

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Weird emacs autoload question

1997-06-06 Thread Christian Lynbech

 Colin == Colin Telmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Colin ... However, if I first load the latex file, and then load the
Colin bibtex file, bibtex-mode is successfully loaded, but
Colin font-lock-mode and auto-fill-mode are not. The *messages*
Colin buffer gives me the following:

Colin Loading bibtex...  
Colin Loading bibtex...done 
Colin File mode
Colin specification error: (invalid-function (macro . #[(rest cdr)
Colin \300\301BD\207 [function lambda cdr] 3 758067]))

The first thing to try, is to run without your .emacs (for instance by
starting emacs as emacs -q doing the necessary mode changes by
hand). If the problem disappears, you are doing something wrong, and
can start outcommenting thing in .emacs to see where the problem is.

If that does not help, there is little left than to debug the darn
thing, for instance by evaluating something like this:

(progn (debug) (find-file test.tex) (find-file test.bib))

and singlestep you through the latter `find-file'.

I can't off hand see any problems with your .emacs, though I'm a
little unsure on your hook settings. You should consider using
`add-hook' (rather than `setq') which works as follows:

add-hook: a compiled Lisp function.
(add-hook HOOK FUNCTION optional APPEND LOCAL)

Add to the value of HOOK the function FUNCTION.
FUNCTION is not added if already present.
FUNCTION is added (if necessary) at the beginning of the hook list
unless the optional argument APPEND is non-nil, in which case
FUNCTION is added at the end.

The optional fourth argument, LOCAL, if non-nil, says to modify
the hook's buffer-local value rather than its default value.
This makes no difference if the hook is not buffer-local.
To make a hook variable buffer-local, always use
`make-local-hook', not `make-local-variable'.

HOOK should be a symbol, and FUNCTION may be any valid function.  If
HOOK is void, it is first set to nil.  If HOOK's value is a single
function, it is changed to a list of functions.

One difference is that add-hook maintain the hook as a list, whereas
your hooks are lambda values, at least in some cases. That could make
a difference to BibTeX-mode.

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Re: video card driver

1997-06-06 Thread ioannis


Sorry, I have no idea about the Matrox Video Card. Your request for help
has been forwarded to debian-user list, the appropriate forum for
questions of this sort. 

 Could someone help him?


On Jun 5, coteau wrote
 Hi There,
   I am installing linux debian on dell machine and it has a Matrox
 MGA Millennium PowerDesk video card and I haven't found any Matrox Video
 Cards in the database provided by the linux. If you please tell me which
 one in the closest match for the Matrox Video Card's driver, I'll really
 appreciate it.
   Sincerely,
   Riaz Khan
 
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Re: StarOffice and Fvwm95

1997-06-06 Thread Bob Nielsen

On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Paul Serice wrote:

 Oh boy.  I've downloaded and installed StarOffice.  I can't believe
 they're giving this away.
 
 Anyway, it runs fine.  The only thing is I'm having a difficult time
 creating a menu item for fvwm95 minding, though, that it executes
 properly when I just type in swriter3 in an xterm.
 
 The entry in .fvwm95 I'm using looks like all the rest:
 
 + StarWriter  Exec swriter 
 
 
 Would someone be so kind as to post their menu entry for any of the
 StarOffice products.


Here's mine, which is working fine:

+ StarWriter  Exec /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3
+ StarCalcExec /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/scalc3
+ StarDrawExec /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/sdraw3
+ StarImage   Exec /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/simage3
+ StarChart   Exec /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/schart3
+ StarMathExec /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/smath3

Bob


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Re: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Brad Bell wrote:

 and put it in /etc/menu.  anything that starts with 'local' is installed, 
 regardless of what debian packages are installed. this is an inadequately
 documented feature of menu (buried in a changelog file... hmpth :P )

whoops!  i guess i'll have to retract this statement-- it is indeed in the
new docs!  sorry--

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trilinux

1997-06-06 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)

 
  How long would it have taken an experienced Linux user to do a quick
  install of three different distributions just to make sure something
  major wasn't missing? Maybe a day at most?
 
 W install  all three distributions on our TRI-LINUX cd  on two different
 boxes ... 
 one that is all IDE and one that has a NCR SCSI and a AHA 1542. It takes 
 about 3 hours when two of us are working on it. We then create a gold,
 verify 
 it bit for bit, and  test the install one more time.  Before we ship a
 silver 
 CD we do a bit for bit test again and usually install one of the three
 distributions.
 
 The Debian 1.3 install is much improved from previous versions.  It
 autodetected the
 subdirectory where I put the startup stuff and required only a single boot 
 floppy.  A far cry from the 6 floppies needed in previous versions. I think
 the quality and ease of the basic installation is now second to none.  

That's great news!

I have a question about this tri-linux CD:
How on earth do you fit three distributions on one CD?  The official
debian CD release will now be 2 CD's.  Does leaving out the source
distribution really makes such a difference?

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Re: lpr: unable to get official name for local machine (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread J.P.D. Kooij


On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 For what it's worth, I upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 about a week ago on a
 server that is authoritative for a few zones ... no problems at all.

I forgot to mention the following: I let the install script change my 
existing setup, did you do this too?
 
 I realise this doesn't assist you in solving your immediate problem, but
 I'm not so sure that the Debian package is to blame..

Well, I'm not really authoritative on bind matters, but I thought that on 
previous (  1.3 ) installations, you could issue nslookup localhost 
and it would work then. Now I get:

  calypso# nslookup localhost
  *** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent host/domain
  *** Default servers are not available


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Re: Debian 1.2: where is locale?

1997-06-06 Thread Mirek Kwasniak

 
 Hi,
 I've asked this question a week ago already, but unfortunately
 neither my posting nor any answers appeared.  Strange.
 
 In the docs I often read about a utility 'locale', but I can't
 find it anywhere.  Everything that has to do with locale seems
 to work.  Just this program is missing on my machine.
 
 Can anyone help me with that?
 Thanks,
  Andy.
10:11:56 2:2'@mirek~/tmp/tmp$ dpkg -S locale|grep /locale|grep -v \
 '/locale[/a-z.]'
xbase: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale
base-files: /usr/lib/locale
localebin: /usr/bin/locale
wg15-locale, textutils, recode, shellutils, man-db, fileutils, sharutils:
/usr/share/locale
groff: /usr/share/groff/tmac/mm/locale

10:14:31 2:2'@mirek~/tmp/tmp$ dpkg -l localebin
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  localebin   5.4.23-6   The locale binaries of the Linux C library v

Mirek


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Re: Broken nethack?

1997-06-06 Thread Randy Edwards

 This was a problem with an earlier version, but was fixed (I thought).
 I don't remember which files had wrong permissions, but here
 are the perms on the relevant files in /var/lib/games/nethack:
 drwxrwxr-x   3 root games1024 Jun  4 11:05 /var/lib/games/nethack/

   Thanks Sue.  The problem must be back (if it was ever fixed; I just
noticed this after upgrading to frozen).  The error is that the nethack
directory is missing the group write attribute.

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Re: Ricoh CDRW (CD-ReWritable) drive

1997-06-06 Thread Sam Ockman

Message from Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 6-5-97:
 On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:
 
  Any debian package that support the Ricoh CDRW drive?
  Does Debian a stable platform to burn CDs?
 
 I'm not sure about the Ricoh drive. I use a Philips CD2000 with no
 problems.
 
 Mkisofs is the tool for creating an ISO9660 image file that can be burned
 on a CD with cdwrite. These two programs are all that is needed to put a
 directory tree on CD. Mkisofs has just added bootable cds to its
 capabilities.

I think he's specifically referring to the rewritable part...I've been
keeping a fairly active eye out for information on this, and haven't seen
any confirmations that it works yet.  As soon as it does work under Linux
though, I'm going to rush out and buy one.

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Re: unhosing my compiler

1997-06-06 Thread J.H.M.Dassen

On Jun 5, stephen farrell wrote
 Oh geez... what have I done?  I can't seem to figure out which library
 is missing, but if I try to compile, e.g.:

   /tmp/cca027141.o: In function `main':
   /tmp/cca027141.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `_stdprintf'

OK. Linker errors. Please provide us with the following information:
- the version of binutils (binutils contains the linker) (dpkg -l binutils).
- the output of trying to compile your program with -Wl,--verbose
- does compiling work when you add '--static'?

 And you can imagine it gets worse for something bigger!  I figured I'd
 hosed libc.a or similar?

libc.a is only used when compiling -static; otherwise the dynamic library
/lib/libc.so* is used)

 Thoughts on unhosing my compiler very welcome...

It looks like a linker problem; you might try to install a different version
of binutils (don't forget the matching libbfd* package).

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Re: PPP Compression: Useful or Useless?

1997-06-06 Thread Rob Browning

Adam Shand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 No, the bsd_comp is link compression, it affect all traffic
 transmitted over the PPP link.

Ah, I see I should have read the man page before posting.

 Not all the many things support it.  What you are thinking of is VJ
 Compression (Van Jacobson) which was the difference between SLIP and
 CSLIP and is a standard part of PPP.

Right, this is what I was thinking of.

What I've been wondering about recently is under what, if any
cirumstances it would be a good idea to disable modem level
compression.  If all your're sending and receiving is gzipped data
(like running a debian mirror), then would it actually make sense to
turn off (some) modem compression?  This is because I've heard that
the protocols in the modem may actually slow things down when handling
already compressed data.

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Re: Problems upgrading to 1.3

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Gernot wrote:
I am having problems upgrading to Debian 1.3 with the latex-packages. I
know that I have to purge the old packages and it works fine despite for
the babel-package. I get the following error-message when i dpkg
--purge --force-depends  babel: 

mother# dpkg --purge --force-depends  babel
(Reading database ... 27160 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing babel ...
Purging configuration files for babel ...
Building new format(s) without babel support using install-fmt-base(8)
/var/lib/dpkg/info/babel.postrm: install-fmt-base: command not found
dpkg: error processing babel (--purge):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
 babel
Create an install-fmt-base shell script that does nothing:

#!/bin/sh
exit 0

Then try to remove babel again.

Nils

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Re: PPP Compression: Useful or Useless?

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On 6 Jun 1997, Rob Browning wrote:
What I've been wondering about recently is under what, if any
cirumstances it would be a good idea to disable modem level
compression.  If all your're sending and receiving is gzipped data
(like running a debian mirror), then would it actually make sense to
turn off (some) modem compression?  This is because I've heard that
the protocols in the modem may actually slow things down when handling
already compressed data.
This is true for MNP5 compression. V.42bis compression disables itself when
data can't be compressed further. At least it is supposed to do so.

Nils

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Re: Network setup question again

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On Jun 6, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 ps.  Between dmesg, ifconfig, and the proc filesystem you can poke
 around and get a good idea of what Linux thinks is going on, and how
 that meshes with what's supposed to be going on.

Thanks for the suggestions. I check with all these commands.
Here is the message I get from those programs. They all seems pretty
well.
So, what is the cause for this? Actually, the LAN works all the time. IS
the configuration not correct?
Another one to test is
  cat /proc/interrupts
Often, PnP BIOS'es need to be told to reserve certain IRQ's for non PnP
cards, otherwise they won't ever see an interrupt coming in.

IRQ 3 is usually reserved for COM2 alias ttyS1. Did you try another?

Nils

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Re: Network setup question again

On Jun 6, Nils Rennebarth wrote:
 
 Another one to test is
   cat /proc/interrupts
 Often, PnP BIOS'es need to be told to reserve certain IRQ's for non PnP
 cards, otherwise they won't ever see an interrupt coming in.

I have disabled the IRQ 3 from bios. this is what I saw in /proc/interrupts
 3:   455  : NE2000 
Is this correct?  

Now I believe maybe this maybe  a hardware problem: I saw the LED indicates
on card ( POWER/TX  NK/RX   DL/JAB), only first one has lights on. That
maybe the reson why I can not receive packets. HOwever, using 'ne2k'
program  I saw nothing special. Is there any program to diagonose ether
card?

Thanks a lot for all your kind help.

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Re: libc5 warnings on upgrade to 1.3

1997-06-06 Thread Lee Bradshaw

 kayak2 /home/bradshaw/dnload # dpkg -i libc5_5.4.23-6.deb
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
 directory), skipping
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
 directory), skipping

 Afterwards,

 /usr/lib/libc.so - /lib/libc.so.5.4.20  (doesn't exist)
 /usr/lib/libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5.0.7   (doesn't exist)

 /lib/libc.so.5 - libc.so.5.4.23(does exist)
 /lib/libm.so.5 - libm.so.5.0.8 (does exist)

Upgrade libc5-dev, it needs to stay in sync with libc5.  In general, the
dev and lib packages need to match version numbers. 

Thanks Scott,

ldconfig is happy now.  It would be nice if the readme stated that the
ldconfig warnings were ok, or recommended getting libc5-dev* in addition
to libc5_*.

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Re: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?

1997-06-06 Thread joost witteveen

 On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Brad Bell wrote:
 
  and put it in /etc/menu.  anything that starts with 'local' is installed, 
  regardless of what debian packages are installed. this is an inadequately
  documented feature of menu (buried in a changelog file... hmpth :P )
 
 whoops!  i guess i'll have to retract this statement-- it is indeed in the
 new docs!  sorry--

Well, if that's true, I'll have to rewrite the docs: it doesn't work
for new-format menuentry files (and the ones in /usr/lib/menu/default
are new-format).

In menu_1.4-1 (not released yet) you will be able (for new-format menuentries)
to do something like:

?package(local.vim):

But unfortunately, this doesn't work in 1.3 (I'd consider that a bug).


For the old-format menuentries (the ones that don't start with a ? on
the first colum), update-menus looks at the filename to decide
whether to include that menuentry. For the new-format menuentries,
update-menus looks at the ?package(...) stuff in the menuentry file
itself, and _not_ at the filename any more.


The new (1.4) README will have this paragraph:

 
 * (User-) Configuring the menu's
 
 A user can specify her/his own menu entries in the ~/.menu directory.
 The files can have any name you want, and should start with eighter:
   ?package(installed-package):
 or, if it's something that isn't debian-officially installed, with
   ?package(local.mystuff):
 Any package that starts with local. is considered installed.
   (due to a bug in menu-1.3 this didn't work then).
 
 If your using old format menuentryfiles should have names of 
 installed packages, or local.name, as update-menus assumes any 
 package who's name starts with local is installed.


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Netscape Communicator Beta3/4/5

1997-06-06 Thread W Paul Mills

I have not had good luck with this one. ( Netscape Communicator 40b3,
40b5 )

I cannot get the news to work. It likes to crash fairly frequently.
Some are predictable, fumbling around with news/messages will do
it every time.

Sometimes when it crashes, it causes a reboot! Not cool! I have never
had a linux program bring linux to it's knees -- until now. Humm...
maybe left some MS code in there somewhere :-/

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Re: StarOffice and Fvwm95

1997-06-06 Thread W Paul Mills

Two things:
  1. You could include the full path.
  2. Environment variables. If you are using xdm to start X, you
 can source  sd.sh (or whatever filename your use) in your 
 $HOME/.xsession file to set the environment as you log in. 
 Then your menu should work. Or if those variables are set or
 sourced by .bashrc (or equal) you can just source .bashrc.

I am not sure if this is an issue when you start X with the startx
script. But if so, it should be able to be cured in a similar manner.
 
  
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Paul Serice wrote:

 Oh boy.  I've downloaded and installed StarOffice.  I can't believe
 they're giving this away.
 
 Anyway, it runs fine.  The only thing is I'm having a difficult time
 creating a menu item for fvwm95 minding, though, that it executes
 properly when I just type in swriter3 in an xterm.
 
 The entry in .fvwm95 I'm using looks like all the rest:
 
 + StarWriter  Exec swriter 
 
 
 Would someone be so kind as to post their menu entry for any of the
 StarOffice products.
 
 Second question:  There don't appear to be any Debian specific Gotchas.
 Has anyone run across something that could be hiding in the wings.
 
 Oh yeah.  One other thing.  I'm curious to know if Debian has inquired
 with StarDivision regarding distributing StarOffice as a Debian package
 and what resulted.
 
 Thanks
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Re: afterstep

1997-06-06 Thread W Paul Mills

I believe that /usr/X11R6/bin/X needs to be suid root.

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Brad Bell wrote:

 hi, i am having some trouble (with permissions?) starting up afterstep.
 if i start it as root, there are no problems.  
 if i start as a normal user, i get this:
 
 velcro# cat /home/brad/.xsession-errors
 sh: /tmp/steprcX: Permission denied
 Cannot open m4-processed config file
 : No such file or directory
 xterm:  fatal IO error 2 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server :0.0
 
 the /tmp/ thing is what throws me off.  /tmp is empty before and after i
 try to start afterstep.
 my system is basically 1.3.0
 
 can anyone advise me on what to look for?
 
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Re: unhosing my compiler

1997-06-06 Thread Dale Scheetz

On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, J.H.M.Dassen wrote:

 On Jun 5, stephen farrell wrote
  Oh geez... what have I done?  I can't seem to figure out which library
  is missing, but if I try to compile, e.g.:
 
  /tmp/cca027141.o: In function `main':
  /tmp/cca027141.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `_stdprintf'
 
 OK. Linker errors. Please provide us with the following information:
 - the version of binutils (binutils contains the linker) (dpkg -l binutils).
 - the output of trying to compile your program with -Wl,--verbose
 - does compiling work when you add '--static'?
 
  And you can imagine it gets worse for something bigger!  I figured I'd
  hosed libc.a or similar?
 
 libc.a is only used when compiling -static; otherwise the dynamic library
 /lib/libc.so* is used)
 
Ray is correct here and I think, possibly closing in on the problem. I
have seen this problem when the .so links aren't built right.

Normally there is a .so link, a .so.X link and a .so.X.YY dynamic library.
The linker will sometimes not follow a symbolic link more than one link,
so, if the .so link is to .so.X with .so.X linked to the actual library,
the linker will fail to find the library. Change the .so link to point
to the acutal .so.X.YY library and the compilation should get much better.

Note: This is only likely if updating binutils (as suggested by Ray)
doesn't fix the problem. You should try that idea first.

Luck,

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Re: video card driver (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread Lawrence Chim

  Hi There,
I am installing linux debian on dell machine and it has a Matrox
  MGA Millennium PowerDesk video card and I haven't found any Matrox Video
  Cards in the database provided by the linux. If you please tell me which
  one in the closest match for the Matrox Video Card's driver, I'll really
  appreciate it.
Sincerely,
Riaz Khan
 
 In /usr/lib/X11/Cards (bo), it indicates that the Matrox Millenium IS
 supported.

and not fully accelarated :)


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Re: Ricoh CDRW (CD-ReWritable) drive

1997-06-06 Thread Lawrence Chim

Sam Ockman wrote:
 
 Message from Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 6-5-97:
  On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:
 
   Any debian package that support the Ricoh CDRW drive?
   Does Debian a stable platform to burn CDs?
 
  I'm not sure about the Ricoh drive. I use a Philips CD2000 with no
  problems.
 
  Mkisofs is the tool for creating an ISO9660 image file that can be burned
  on a CD with cdwrite. These two programs are all that is needed to put a
  directory tree on CD. Mkisofs has just added bootable cds to its
  capabilities.
 
 I think he's specifically referring to the rewritable part...I've been
 keeping a fairly active eye out for information on this, and haven't seen
 any confirmations that it works yet.  As soon as it does work under Linux
 though, I'm going to rush out and buy one.
 

Does Linux support the new Universal Disc Format (UDF)?

ISO9660 have several limitations:
   File names must be only in capital letters , A - Z. 
   File names are limited to the DOS 8 + 3 format. 
   No more than 8 directory levels. 
   Only legal character besides letters is the under score (_).

UDF does not have the name and directory restrictions that ISO9660
imposed. 

How do people deal with the long file name problem in ISO9660?

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Re: StarOffice and Fvwm95

1997-06-06 Thread Paul Serice

W Paul Mills wrote:
 
 Two things:
   1. You could include the full path.
   2. Environment variables. If you are using xdm to start X, you
  can source  sd.sh (or whatever filename your use) in your
  $HOME/.xsession file to set the environment as you log in.
  Then your menu should work. Or if those variables are set or
  sourced by .bashrc (or equal) you can just source .bashrc.

That's it.  I read the instructions too literally.  I didn't think to
source .sd.sh from the ~/.xsession file.


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Re: Newbie

1997-06-06 Thread Rick Morrison

Thanks for all the help answering my remote access questions.  Up and running 
now ... and am attempting to tackle XFree86.

1. I can start an X session  but get an error ... 
  xterm:  unable to find usable termcap entry
when trying to log in via X.  I don't see any /etc/termcap file.  Should 
there be one?  No help on the XFree86 web page.

2. Any tips as to how to start NFS services for mounting from my PC /Win95 
client?

Thanks!

 


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Re: Netscape Communicator Beta3/4/5

1997-06-06 Thread Rick Macdonald

On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, W Paul Mills wrote:

 I have not had good luck with this one. ( Netscape Communicator 40b3,
 40b5 )

 Sometimes when it crashes, it causes a reboot! Not cool! I have never
 had a linux program bring linux to it's knees -- until now.

The last (and only) program that ever hung/crashed my Linux was Netscape
1.0.

Go figure.

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Re: Network setup question again

1997-06-06 Thread Nathan E Norman


On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:On Jun 6, Nathan E Norman wrote:
: 
: ps.  Between dmesg, ifconfig, and the proc filesystem you can poke
: around and get a good idea of what Linux thinks is going on, and how
: that meshes with what's supposed to be going on.
:
:Thanks for the suggestions. I check with all these commands.
:Here is the message I get from those programs. They all seems pretty
:well.
:
:dmesg:
:  NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x300 : 00 40 05 17 a9 a7
:  eth0: NE2000 found at 0x300, using IRQ 3
  ^
:
:ifconfig:
:  eth0: Link encap 10Mbps Ethernet   HWaddr 00 40 05 17 a9 a7 
:inet addr: 128.174.57.79 Bcast 128.174.255.255 Nmask 255.255.0.0
:UP BROADCASTING RUNNING MULTICAST   MTU: 1500  Metric: 1
:Rx packets:0  errors: 0 drops: 0  overruns: 0
 
:Tx packets:87 errors: 0 drops: 0  overruns: 0
:Interrupt 3 Base Address 0x300
[snip]

I see your NIC is at IRQ 3 ... and if your ethernet is active, and you
say it is, 0 Rx packets means the kernel can't get at your NIC.  I will
bet that you have a conflict with a serial port.  Try moving the NIC to
IRQ 10 or something, or remove the serial port (this is not always
possible).

Try that and see what you come up with.  I think if you move the NIC
card IRQ you will start to receive packets.

btw, removing serial support from the kernel and/or not loading the
serial module is not enough to solve this conflict ... I've had this
problem before.

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Re: Network setup question again

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On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have disabled the IRQ 3 from bios. this is what I saw in /proc/interrupts
 3:   455  : NE2000 
Is this correct?  
Apparently it receives interrupts. This is ok. A typical sign of a BIOS
robbing the interrupts is a 0 in the second column.

Does ifconfig shows errors? What media does it use (or try to use?)
AUI, BNC, 10BaseT? This should be printed at loading time of the module.

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Re: rogers wave cable access.... (DHCP mini-HOWTO)

1997-06-06 Thread Dan Halbert

I was the author of the original DHCP client mini-HOWTO. I wrote it
last fall, but withdrew it this winter, because it had become
obsolete.

The HOWTO described a technique for using Win95 DHCP information to
give Linux its necessary IP identity and server information. It was a
stopgap, and did not handle lease renewal. I received several
complaints about this. The HOWTO was supposed to be called
Win95+DHCP or something like that, but the name became overly
generalized.

At the time I wrote it, dhcpcd (the most commonly used Linux DHCP
client) was in earlier versions, and did not work with my ISP's DHCP
server. So I described the stopgap method. Shortly afterward, dhcpcd was
improved, and it's what I use now. I am also participating in
debugging the ISC DHCP client.

Very briefly, the easy way to use dhcpcd is to install it and invoke it
in your boot scripts. I think that's all the current Debian package does.
You also need to link /etc/resolv.conf to /etc/dhcpc/resolv.conf.

I do agree there's probably a need for a DHCP client mini-HOWTO. Sorry
for the short lifetime of mine, but it really did become unnecessary
shortly after I wrote it.

Regards,
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Re: lpr: unable to get official name for local machine (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread Nathan E Norman


On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, J.P.D. Kooij wrote:

:
:On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:
:
: For what it's worth, I upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 about a week ago on a
: server that is authoritative for a few zones ... no problems at all.
:
:I forgot to mention the following: I let the install script change my 
:existing setup, did you do this too?

I believe I did - it certainly has the new style named.boot, etc.

: 
: I realise this doesn't assist you in solving your immediate problem, but
: I'm not so sure that the Debian package is to blame..
:
:Well, I'm not really authoritative on bind matters, but I thought that on 
:previous (  1.3 ) installations, you could issue nslookup localhost 
:and it would work then. Now I get:
:
:  calypso# nslookup localhost
:  *** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent host/domain
:  *** Default servers are not available
:

Here's what I get when I execute 'nslookup localhost':

Server:  endor
Address:  0.0.0.0

Name:localhost.cfni.com
Address:  127.0.0.1

Notice that I did defy the package default of specifying the local IP
address as a nameserver in resolv.conf and instead left it as 0.0.0.0,
as the first edition BIND book suggests.  I have no idea if this matters
:) (I also would not call myself a BIND guru).

I also see that I have a localhost entry in my primary SOA zone file ...
and I don't have a named.local file, which named.options seems to expect
to exist.  It looks like I may have gotten lucky :)

If you like I can send snippets of my zone files. etc. if that would
somehow be helpful.

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Re: Ricoh CDRW (CD-ReWritable) drive

1997-06-06 Thread Dale Scheetz

On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:

 Does Linux support the new Universal Disc Format (UDF)?
 
 ISO9660 have several limitations:
File names must be only in capital letters , A - Z. 
File names are limited to the DOS 8 + 3 format. 
No more than 8 directory levels. 
Only legal character besides letters is the under score (_).
 
 UDF does not have the name and directory restrictions that ISO9660
 imposed. 
 
 How do people deal with the long file name problem in ISO9660?

Mkisofs supports RockRidge and TransTables which together resolve all of
the above issues for *nix machines, although DOS systems don't get the
full benefit of RockRidge extentions because of its ignorance of them. I
always use the -R and -T options when I build an image and the resultant
CD comes out just fine.

Luck,

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libc5 version 5.4.23-6

1997-06-06 Thread Douglas Bates

I'm not sure what the sequence was but I somehow have managed to get
a version 5.4.23-6 of libc5 installed.  Running dselect using the ftp
method from ftp.debian.org and with the distributions as
 frozen unstable hamm/contrib hamm/non-free
shows  version 5.4.23-4 of libc5 as the available version.  I also have
libc5-altdev installed but at version 5.4.23-4.  It depends on
libc5-5.4.23-4 so I get a dependency problem whenever I try to select
with dselect.

Would this inconsistency in versions be a problem?  Should I manually
download and install libc5-5.4.23-4.deb?

As you may surmise from my using libc5-altdev, I also have libc6 and
libc6-dev installed.  I am running into a few problems.  For example,
I am unable to compile a new kernel with either /usr/bin/gcc or 
/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/bin/gcc (details available upon request).

sh-2.00# dpkg -l | egrep libc# show installed versions of libc-related pkgs
ii  altgcc  2.7.2.2-2  Alternate gcc package for the libc5 environm
ii  glibcdoc1.92-1 GNU C library Info documentation (edition 0.
ii  libc4   4.6.27-15  The Linux C library version 4 (run-time libr
ii  libc5   5.4.23-6   The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr
ii  libc5-altdev5.4.23-4   The Linux C library version 5 (alternative d
ii  libc6   2.0.3-4The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files)
ii  libc6-dev   2.0.3-4The GNU C library version 2 (development fil

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Re: libc5 version 5.4.23-6

1997-06-06 Thread joost witteveen

 I'm not sure what the sequence was but I somehow have managed to get
 a version 5.4.23-6 of libc5 installed.  Running dselect using the ftp
 method from ftp.debian.org and with the distributions as
  frozen unstable hamm/contrib hamm/non-free
 shows  version 5.4.23-4 of libc5 as the available version.  I also have
 libc5-altdev installed but at version 5.4.23-4.  It depends on
 libc5-5.4.23-4 so I get a dependency problem whenever I try to select
 with dselect.
 
 Would this inconsistency in versions be a problem?  Should I manually
 download and install libc5-5.4.23-4.deb?

I'm not sure whether it would be a problem -- it will be if the
upstream versions differ, but I doubt whether just different
debian revisions cause problems. However, I'd advice you to not
install different versions of libc5 and libc5-altdev, just to be
sure. Why not download libc5-altdev_5.4.24-6?

 As you may surmise from my using libc5-altdev, I also have libc6 and
 libc6-dev installed.  I am running into a few problems.  For example,
 I am unable to compile a new kernel with either /usr/bin/gcc or 
 /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/bin/gcc (details available upon request).
 

I've got libc6 installed, to, but have no problems compiling kernels
(well, 2.0.31-pre2 that is).

 dpkg -l | egrep libc# show installed versions of libc-related pkgs

$ dpkg -l | egrep libc
rc  libc4.6.27-6  The Linux C library.
ii  libc4   4.6.27-15 The Linux C library version 4 (run-time libr
ii  libc5   5.4.23-4  The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr
ii  libc5-altdev5.4.23-4  The Linux C library version 5 (alternative d
ii  libc5-pic   5.4.23-3  Kit for building specialized versions of the
ii  libc6   2.0.3-4   The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files)
ii  libc6-dbg   2.0.3-4   The GNU C library version 2 (debugging/profi
ii  libc6-dev   2.0.3-4   The GNU C library version 2 (development fil
ii  libc6-doc   2.0.3-4   The GNU C library version 2 (documentation f


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Re: Network setup question again

On Jun 6, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 . oving the NIC to
 IRQ 10 or something, or remove the serial port (this is not always
 possible).

On Jun 6, Nils Rennebarth wrote:
 Does ifconfig shows errors? What media does it use (or try to use?)
 AUI, BNC, 10BaseT? This should be printed at loading time of the module.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I am using thin-ehternet coaxial cable.
I may try to moving NIC IRQ to 10, hope it works. Is there any utility
for this? I heard of 'atlantic', 'cause no setup disk available for me.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: Network setup question again

 Can anybody tell me what is the problem if the computer cannot
 receive packets from other computer? I set all the configuration
 file and IP address, hostname seems ok. I can 'ping'  myself,
 but not other computers, also I can not ping from other computer
 to mine. I am sure the physical connection is ok.
 
 I figured out that though all the IP setting are fine, it can
  not find the  MAC (physical ether address) for those computers.
 What else can I do here?

Is your NIC recognized by the kernel?  i.e. if you `cat /proc/net/dev` is
there an eth0 listed?  (On second thought, this should be okay if you can
ping yourself  However, maybe it's this problem on the other end)

Run `ifconfig`.  What's happening there?  Post output here.

Moving on  Do the IP addresses you've assigned match the netmask? 
(i.e. if you're using 192.168.110.x and 192.168.110.y, are you using
255.255.255.0 as your netmask?)

Install the package tcpdump, and run `tcpdump -i eth0` to get a view of the
packets being sent/received on the eth0 interface.  Then switch to another
console screen and try pinging the other box.  Switch back and watch the
output for clues.  (No output means a problem on the local box.  No input
might mean a problem on the other box.)  If the other box is Linux too,
install tcpdump there as well

Good luck!

Later,

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Re: gated file

 However: it does not seem to understand variable length subnet masks, as
 given to it by the BGP server?  Instead it sets the BGP server as it's
 next hop for those nets.  I would MOST like to solve this.  Is it a
 problem with gated (I used options VARIABLE_MASKS), or is it a kernel
 feature I need to explicitly turn on?

Have you tried asking the gurus on the gated mailing list?

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OK..here is what we have to date. I tried the winipcfg after connecting and the IP address is the same as the Gateway? In addition I checked for samba --list and it was there but just to be on the safe side I downloaded the newest version (which is the same as I originally had) and reinstalled from scratch.Still not able to see the Debian when I connect using PPP. Regarding the IP/Gateway issue here is what I tried.1. Force the IP/Gateway to come directly from the dial up adaptor2. under /etc/options.ttyS2 It looks like this209.41.81.XXX : 209.41.81.XXX ###where the first value is the Debian IP and the second is a fixed IP for the dial up account.3. Removed the options file and had the laptop dial up system drive the IP/Gateway.NOTHING! Man am I stumped... I know it has to be the gateway, IP, and DNS problem but where?Sti-- From: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marc D. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: PPP,Samba and Linux Date: Tuesday, June 03, 1997 8:18 AM Marc D. Jones wrote:I've tried that this morning to no avail. Here is what I have.../etc/ppp/optionsDNS pointing to ISP (I can web serf while dialed in so I believe this works) WINS pointing to the Linux IP (also the dial up adaptor on the laptop is set to WINS to Linux IP *In options.ttyS2 remote IP = free IP address 209.xx.xx.xxx local IP = Linux boxMgetty works since I can dial in and it shows the proper handshake in the ppp.log Linux Server is providing the laptop IP address so the TCPIP properties are: No IP address assigned WINS server to the Linux Gateway to the router DNS to the ISPIf only I could get the laptop to see both the debian system and the smbmounted PC than I would be homefree. Any other suggestions would be a godsend.Do something for me. When the win95 box gets connected, go to Run... in the Start menu and run 'winipcfg'. You'll get a window which will show you all the current IP settings, including DNS and WINS. Verify that all these numbers are correct. (I suspect they will be, but this way we'll know for sure.) Then (assuming success with winipcfg) make sure that you have 'proxyarp' as an option on the linux box in /etc/ppp/options. Also, are you sure you're running samba? Type 'dpkg --list samba' to see if you've got it properly installed. (If you have, there should see a 'samba' line with 'ii' at the front of it.) Do this stuff and get back to us. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

EXT2-fs warning....

This is a first for me  

This has just started showing up on the console and in /var/log/messages. 
Running fsck reported some duplicate/bad blocks.

Any idea what's happening? Time to replace the drive?

Jun  5 23:55:00 selma kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
ext2_free_blocks:
bit already cleared for block 68297
Jun  5 23:55:00 selma kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
ext2_free_blocks:
bit already cleared for block 152681
Jun  5 23:55:00 selma kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
ext2_free_blocks:
bit already cleared for block 83579
Jun  5 23:55:00 selma kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
ext2_free_blocks:
bit already cleared for block 83580


TIA,

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Re: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?

Sudhakar Chandrasekharan:
 That worked.  As you said, there *should* be another way to specify
 local packages.  Though I can understand why update-menus does not add
 an item if the package is not installed.

My preference is that a new test be added (or it might already exist, for
all I know), like:

?file(/usr/local/bin/vim): ...

Then the menu entry shows up if the file exists. This would be useful for
local stuff.

The menu package used to allow any menu file starting with local to ignore
whether the package was installed or not, so you could make a local.vim menu
file. However, then the menu package changed a lot of things, and this no
longer works.

 Another question.  I know this might be a FAQ.
 
 If I want to install a package that is not part of the Debian
 distribution, how do I go about it?  I think there are two scenarios
 here -
 
 * foo.tar.gz contains the binaries, libs etc.

Assumming there is a complete directory tree in here, (ie, the binaries are
in a subdirectory usr/bin, etc, inside the tar file) use
alien foo.tar.gz and a debian package will be generated.

Otherwise, you unpack it and install by hand into /usr/local, just like with
any other linux system

 * foo.tar.gz contains the source.  Ie. I have to compile the program
 before I install it.
 
 
 I have currently been bypassing the dpkg mechanism and installing these
 packages under /usr/local tree.

Nothing else to do, unless you want to learn how to build debian packages.
There is a document that teaches the basics you need to build debian
packages, but I forget the url.

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LILO: Wrong Loader ..

1997-06-06 Thread mfrattola

Disclaimer: it's my fault, I know.
On a stable (1.1.13) debian box I tried to upgrade the kernel from install
2.0.6 to a home-built 2.0.27. The home built kernel is known to work, so this
is not the problem. I built it via kernel-package, so I could install it with
dpkg. After that, I reboot to test the new kernel (ERROR: I know 2.0.27 needs a
newer lilo, like 17-2 (the one I usually install with 2.0.27 - and they work!))
The reboot came up with a

LILO: Wrong Loader .. Giving up

message, or something like that.
I realized I missed lilo upgrade, so rebuilt a boot disk and installed lilo-17-2
Reboot and .. same message. So I looked for lilo dependecies, and it depends
on mbr. Upgraded also mbr, same message.
What can I do to make that box boot again?

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was Netscape Communicator: now programs that will crash your LInux box

1997-06-06 Thread James D. Freels

There is another program that will crash your Linux box: wordIMperfect.
Yes I'm talking about the native Linux wordIMperfect.  For example try
paging through a document that has alot of EPS graphics figures.  If
you do it too fast, it will crash your system.  There are other ways
to do it also, some I don't know how to repeat.

Today, I just discovered StarOffice.  I can already tell it is much
better than wordIMperfect.  Plus, you have all the other tools.  Now
if I could just find the documentation so I could learn how to use
it...

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Boot question

1997-06-06 Thread Linux dist. research

Greetings,


I'm trying to change the ethernet card in my machine from a 3c509 to an
SMC 9330 BDT, but during boot the 3c509 module gets loaded and the tulip
module doesn't.  

My question is where are these modules loaded into the kernel during boot?
I thought they would be in the rc.* files, or etc/init.d, but grepping for
insmod and grepping -i for 3c turned up nothing.

Perhaps someone could shed some light on the problem for me.

Thanks.

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Re: PPP,Samba and Linux

1997-06-06 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen

Marc D. Jones wrote:
 
 OK..here is what we have to date.  I tried the winipcfg after
 connecting and the IP address is the same as the Gateway?  In addition
 I checked for samba --list and it was there but just to be on the safe
 side I downloaded the newest version (which is the same as I
 originally had) and reinstalled from scratch.
 
 Still not able to see the Debian when I connect using PPP.  Regarding
 the IP/Gateway issue here is what I tried.
 
 1. Force the IP/Gateway to come directly from the dial up adaptor
 2. under /etc/options.ttyS2 It looks like this
 209.41.81.XXX : 209.41.81.XXX  ###where the first value is the
 Debian IP and the second is a fixed IP for the dial up account.
 3.  Removed the options file and had the laptop dial up system drive
 the IP/Gateway.
 
 NOTHING!   Man am I stumped... I know it has to be the gateway, IP,
 and DNS problem but where?

Well, the IP address shouldn't be the same as the gateway, it should
be the IP you configured as the fixed IP for the dial-up account.
It might be a problem to have spaces in your options file. Edit to
change '209.41.81.XXX : 209.41.81.XXX' to '209.41.81.XXX:209.41.81.XXX'.
Also, did you see the DNS and WINS ip addresses set properly when you
ran winipcfg?

Also, you may need to configure SAMBA to create shares. The default
setup may export home directories, but even then you'd only see it
if you logged into Win95 with the same name as your login on the linux
box. One more thing I thought of: You need to check a setting in Win95.
Open up the Network Properties, open up the TCP/IP properties 
(or TCP/IP -- Dialup Adapter if you have that), and select the 
'Bindings' tab. Make sure that the checkbox for 'Client for Microsoft
Networks' is checked.

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Re: Broken nethack?

Scott K. Ellis:
 It appears that that was a wierd glitch in the upgrade, purging and
 re-installing nethack fixed that for me when I encountered it.

I think I've found the cause of the problem. It only happens if you upgrade
nethack. Looking at the nethack postinst:

chown root.games /var/lib/games/nethack /var/lib/games/nethack/save
chmod 775 /var/lib/games/nethack/save /var/lib/games/nethack/save
^

The marked section should be deleted. The postinst isn't fixing the perms on
/var/lib/games/nethack, and it should.

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Re: Were to put non-debian files (was: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?)

1997-06-06 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan

Scott K. Ellis wrote:
 On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:
  Another question.  I know this might be a FAQ.
 
  If I want to install a package that is not part of the Debian
  distribution, how do I go about it?  I think there are two scenarios
  here -
 
  * foo.tar.gz contains the binaries, libs etc.
  * foo.tar.gz contains the source.  Ie. I have to compile the program
  before I install it.
 
 
  I have currently been bypassing the dpkg mechanism and installing these
  packages under /usr/local tree.
 
 You're doing it correctly, ideally all programs not installed from debian
 (or redhat or slackware with alien) packages should be put under
 /usr/local.  Debian won't touch files there, except for a few packages
 that create empty directories where local add-ons can be placed (perl and
 emacs/xemacs that I recall).


I think I should rephrase my question.  Assuming I don't want to get
around dpkg while installing local packages, what should I do?  Or
rather, how do I create my own .deb package?

Sudhakar
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Re: Boot question

 I'm trying to change the ethernet card in my machine from a 3c509 to an
 SMC 9330 BDT, but during boot the 3c509 module gets loaded and the tulip
 module doesn't.  
 
 My question is where are these modules loaded into the kernel during
boot?
 I thought they would be in the rc.* files, or etc/init.d, but grepping
for
 insmod and grepping -i for 3c turned up nothing.

Check /etc/modules and /etc/conf.modules.

later,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
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Installing Debian over Slackware Linux

1997-06-06 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger

Hi, all. I'm currently running a version of Slackware Linux (3.2,
updated with the new kernel+libc and some other things). I'm still
relatively new to Linux, so my question may be something that's already
been answered or addressed. If so, please tell me where to look - I've
looked at the install.txt and other documents and still I'm not sure...

how to install Debian over a working Slackware distribution. My floppy
drive doesn't work at the moment, and Slackware is currently supporting
itself, albeit a bit creakily; is it possible to have my Linux box put
in dselect (or whichever packages it needs) to slowly migrate over to a
fully Debian installation?

I realise that may be a bit unrealistic; I'm not expecting to have
absolutely no detritus left over from Slackware, but I'd really rather
not start over from scratch, as I *do* have some things on my drive that
I'd rather not lose, even though I'd benefit from re-installing from
scratch. Please help!

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Re: unhosing my compiler

1997-06-06 Thread stephen farrell


On Jun 5, stephen farrell wrote
 Oh geez... what have I done?  I can't seem to figure out which library
 is missing, but if I try to compile, e.g.:

  /tmp/cca027141.o: In function `main':
  /tmp/cca027141.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `_stdprintf'

OK. Linker errors. Please provide us with the following information:
- the version of binutils (binutils contains the linker) (dpkg -l
binutils).


Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  binutils2.7.0.9-3  The GNU assembler, linker and binary utiliti


(here's a few more for good measure:)

| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  ldso1.8.10-2   The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilit


Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  libc5   5.4.23-6   The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr


Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  libc5-dev   5.4.23-6   The Linux C library version 5 (development f


| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  libbfd2.7.0.9   2.7.0.9-3  The GNU Binary File Descriptor library (run-



- the output of trying to compile your program with -Wl,--verbose


GNU ld version cygnus-2.7.1 (with BFD 2.7.0.9)
  Supported emulations:
   elf_i386
   i386linux
using internal linker script:
==
OUTPUT_FORMAT(elf32-i386, elf32-i386,
  elf32-i386)
OUTPUT_ARCH(i386)
ENTRY(_start)
SEARCH_DIR(/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/local/lib); 
SEARCH_DIR(/usr/elf_i386/lib);
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overriding dependencies

1997-06-06 Thread Michael Stone

Here's the situation: sometimes I install a package and I override the
dependencies in dselect (for example, I'm running a headless server on
which I wanted to run some X based monitoring apps on a remote x term;
I needed the x libraries but I didn't need an x server.) It's easy to
override the box that pops up with the dependency warning, but I've
got to do it every time I use dselect. Eventually I give up and let
it install whatever it's pestering me about. So, the question is,
is there a way to permenantly override a dependency? Another example
is the dwww package, iirc. It wants a web server, and I don't know
how to tell it that I compile my own apache...

Mike Stone


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10/100TX net card recommendations?

1997-06-06 Thread Linux dist. research

Greetings,


Does anyone have a recommendation for 10/100 net cards?  The SMC 9332 has
now changed a bit, and currently I am unable to use it.  I am exploring
other options, and finding another card type is one of these.

Thanks in advance.

Chip

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StarOffice and Debian

1997-06-06 Thread John Kintree

It looks like a number of people are successfully running StarOffice on
Debian Linux.  Is someone working on a .deb package for beta4 with the
statically linked Motif library?




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Re: EXT2-fs warning....

1997-06-06 Thread Paul McDermott

hi I have a similar problem with a fijitsu 2.57gig drive.  what kind of 
drive do you have and any other information would be useful to help you out.
Paul


On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Kevin Traas wrote:

 This is a first for me  
 
 This has just started showing up on the console and in /var/log/messages. 
 Running fsck reported some duplicate/bad blocks.
 
 Any idea what's happening? Time to replace the drive?
 
 Jun  5 23:55:00 selma kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
 ext2_free_blocks:
 bit already cleared for block 68297
 Jun  5 23:55:00 selma kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
 ext2_free_blocks:
 bit already cleared for block 152681
 Jun  5 23:55:00 selma kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
 ext2_free_blocks:
 bit already cleared for block 83579
 Jun  5 23:55:00 selma kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
 ext2_free_blocks:
 bit already cleared for block 83580
 
 
 TIA,
 
 Kevin Traas
 Systems Analyst
 Edmondson Roper CA
 http://www.eroper.bc.ca
 
 
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Install Stopped

1997-06-06 Thread randy

Hello, 

  I was installing the new 1.3 version onto a 486 based PC when the
install stopped progressing.  After formatting a second new floppy,
using rawrite2 again to create a second new rescue disk, then rebooting,
the exact same thing happened.  I got as far as seeing a number of
screens of information fly by, then the install stopped.  The
installation information said this may happen for periods of time, but I
figured that 2 hours was long enough.  The last line on the screen each
time was:
Code: 80 38 00 74 07 40 4a 83 fa ff 75 f4 29 c8 c6 f7 c5 10 00

  I don't know if this screen information is useful, but I wasn't sure
what might be relevant.  

Additional background info:
*  I got the Debian 1.3 download from BO yesterday.
*  I formatted all of the floppies before using rawrite2, tossing out
any that had bad sectors.
*  I am a newbie to Linux/Unix.
*  The 486 presently has Win95 installed.  I plan on only using Linux on
this and don't care if Win95 is destroyed.
*  I turned off Shadow Ram in the BIOS.
*  The PC has 16 MB of DRAM (with the extra RAM as extended, not
expanded, per the install info).
*  I just finished spending a few hours reading everything I could find
in related newsgroups and on the Debian website about install related
problems.

  Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

- Randy


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Re: frozen unstable distribution problems

1997-06-06 Thread jghasler

I wrote:
 I realize that it would use more disk space, but I really think that the
 CD images should contain no links.

Francis C. Swasey writes:
 I hope you mean no links out of the CD image itself.

Yes, that is what I meant.

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Re: 10/100TX net card recommendations?

1997-06-06 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq

I've recently installed the 3Com 3C595-TX Fast EtherLink PCI
10/100baseT card.  Its known as Vortex under Linux.  I did
have some trouble with IRQ conflicts on the PCI bus.
Otherwise no problems in installing or running.

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On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Linux dist. research wrote:

 Does anyone have a recommendation for 10/100 net cards?  The SMC 9332 has
 now changed a bit, and currently I am unable to use it.  I am exploring
 other options, and finding another card type is one of these.


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DPMS ported to other platforms?

1997-06-06 Thread Paul Lange

Does anybody know if the package management system has been ported to other
platforms?  I was thinking about doing it for Solaris but wanted to make sure
somebody else hadn't already done it.

Yeah... Department of Redundancy Department.
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Re: EXT2-fs warning....