Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority
George Bonser writes: Ok, then why not adopt some default standard (Say PAP like windows does) that you MAY CHANGE but for newbies, asks them what the phone number is, what their password is and username and then sets the darned thing up to act like Win95 does on a PPP login so that any ISP that supports Windows DUN by default... Good idea. I also still think that the install script should offer Dial up an ISP and use dynamic IP as a separate menu item. Selecting this would bring up a menu in which Would you like to set PPP up like Win95 DUN would be one of the choices. ...this is about 100% of US providers... There are still plenty of ISP's out here using screwball arrangements. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mailing list archives needs updated..
Hi, Although I found the information I was looking for, it would be nice to have archives updated. Isn't this done automagically? Cheers, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
POP2 and POP3 servers?
Hi, I've just installed Debian 1.3.1 on a server which used to run Redhat 4.1. The Redhat installation had an RPM package called imap, which provided ipop2 and ipop3, POP servers. I haven't been able to find anything comparable in Debian, the closest I've come is cucipop and qpopper which both provide just POP3 servers. I've had to install the Redhat package using alien. So, is there a Debian package with a POP2 and POP3 server? Thanks, Tim. -- Tim Bell .--_|\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Department of Computer Science \_.--._/ University of Melbourne, Australia v -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority
On 13 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good idea. I also still think that the install script should offer Dial up an ISP and use dynamic IP as a separate menu item. Selecting this would bring up a menu in which Would you like to set PPP up like Win95 DUN would be one of the choices. Yes, I agree that a dynamic IP install configuration would be a boon to newbies getting PPP up and working smoothly (at least it would've for me:-). However, I think it could be worked better (read: without mentioning Win95) than your suggestion... :-) Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / (FidoNet 1:325/805) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Randy Edwards wrote: However, I think it could be worked better (read: without mentioning Win95) than your suggestion... :-) Why? Think of it this way, linux is so darned configurable that it can be made to act like nearly anything. Since the consumer internet service providers bent over backwards to serve Win95, why not use that as leverage. They go to all that trouble and expense to service Windows and we simply hop on for the ride. The message to the ISP's is Linux is no more difficult to support than Win95. Then the ISP can say Cool, we work with Linux!. Shoot, we can even make a simply tk front end that looks JUST like DUN if we wanted to and the customer support tech at the ISP can use the SAME scripts they use with Win95 to talk a newbie through configuration, In other words, make Win95 look like it caused the ISP to lay out a lot in equipment, software, and training and Debian can just go right along for the ride for free. George Bonser If I was in charge of the world, things would be a lot better (for me). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re:PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)
On 13 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I agree that a dynamic IP install configuration would be a boon to newbies getting PPP up and working smoothly (at least it would've for me:-). However, I think it could be worked better (read: without mentioning Win95) than your suggestion... :-) I disagree... Why make it easier? I use Linux for 2 weeks now. I used Dos and windows for 8 years before. You want to know why I switched to Linux? Because Win95 was boring. I think what makes Linux be Linux is the fact that it's not very user friendly if you compare it to Win95. The nore it's hard to make a Linux box running as you want, the more you learn. Personnally I love to learn. I love to read HOW-TOs and Documents to LEARN how to make what I want to make. I don't want it to be easier. I want to continue to work hard to do what I want to... It's the beauty of OSs like Linux. As you can notice, english is not my mother language so, please, be indulgent. This was my 0.02$ - We stop learning if, each day, we are not a little more conscious of our ignorance - Carmen Martin ** Louis-Philippe Alain: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Newbie Question
Firstly let me say that I have never used Linux and I am learning as I go along. I have installed debian ver 1.2 on a second hard drive on my PC. I didn't encounter any real problems during installation so I assume everything is OK. Now I would like to install a GUI (fvwm) and I have downloaded a copy of the same from the Web. I copied the file onto a floppy but I cannot access my A:/ drive. During startup I have established the following: hda1 is my DOS drive containing Win95 hdb is my CDROM hdc1 is my Linux Swap hdc2 is my Linux Native fd0 is my 1.44M Floppy I used the command df and all it shows is: /dev/hdc2 Why can I not see/access my other drives? Have I not done something? Any help would be much appreciated. Lastly, can anyone point me to a good Newbie FAQ? Thanks in advance David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re:PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Louis-Philippe Alain wrote: On 13 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I agree that a dynamic IP install configuration would be a boon to newbies getting PPP up and working smoothly (at least it would've for me:-). However, I think it could be worked better (read: without mentioning Win95) than your suggestion... :-) I disagree... Why make it easier? Because ISP's can not afford to train their tech support staff on how to set up systems running Linux. George Bonser If I was in charge of the world, things would be a lot better (for me). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
adduser
greetings, so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect). thanks, matty -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: adduser
I manually ftp'd the one from hamm and installed it. On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Matthew C. Thompson wrote: greetings, so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect). thanks, matty -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser If I was in charge of the world, things would be a lot better (for me). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re:PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Louis-Philippe Alain wrote: I disagree... Why make it easier? I use Linux for 2 weeks now. I used Dos and windows for 8 years before. You want to know why I switched to Linux? Because Win95 was boring. I think what makes Linux be Linux is the fact that it's not very user friendly if you compare it to Win95. The nore it's hard to make a Linux box running as you want, the more you learn. Personnally I love to learn. I love to read HOW-TOs and Documents to LEARN how to make what I want to make. I don't want it to be easier. I want to continue to work hard to do what I want to... It's the beauty of OSs like Linux. Righto! linux treats you as a knowledgeable person, not some idiot who does'nt know how to use an OS. my $ 0.02. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Andre M. Varon Lasaltech, Incorported Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)433-3520 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web page: http://www.lasaltech.com/andre.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: adduser
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Matthew C. Thompson wrote: so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect). As far as I know, the adduser in 1.3.1 hasn't been fixed for some strange reason. However, if you grab the adduser package out of hamm (unstable) it'll work fine. Just download the hamm adduser, stick it into /tmp, and then go to /tmp as root and do a dpkg -i adduser*. The adduser package is a script so there's no worries about lib6 libraries or anything. Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / (FidoNet 1:325/805) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbie Question
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, David Wilde wrote:
Firstly let me say that I have never used Linux and I am learning as I go
along.
I have installed debian ver 1.2 on a second hard drive on my PC. I didn't
encounter any real problems during installation so I assume everything is OK.
Now I would like to install a GUI (fvwm) and I have downloaded a copy of
the same from the Web. I copied the file onto a floppy but I cannot access
my A:/ drive.
If you configure Linux for networking, you will be able to access the
Internet directly via your ISP. You can then use dselect to retrieve and
install Debian packages directly from ftp.debian.org or its mirrors.
During startup I have established the following:
hda1 is my DOS drive containing Win95
hdb is my CDROM
hdc1 is my Linux Swap
hdc2 is my Linux Native
fd0 is my 1.44M Floppy
I used the command df and all it shows is:
/dev/hdc2
Why can I not see/access my other drives? Have I not done something? Any
help would be much appreciated.
You have to mount the partitions before Linux can access them. See the
man pages on mount and fstab. ('man mount' and 'man fstab')
To mount your floppy drive, you should use something like:
mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt,
where this drive will show up in your file system as /mnt.
fstab is a file which describes which partitions you want to mount when
the system boots, or at least preconfigure so that you can mount them
later with a simplified version of the mount command. For instance, here
is a portion of my /etc/fstab file:
/dev/hda7 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda6 /usr ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda5 /dos vfat defaults,umask=000 0 0
/dev/hdc /cdromiso9660 defaults,noauto,user 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy ext2 defaults,noauto,user 0 0
/proc /proc proc defaults
/dev/hda8 none swap sw
/dev/hda6 and /dev/hda7 are Linux ext2 partitions. You probably already
have something like this in your /etc/fstab. I have added /dev/hda5,
which is a Win 95 partition and /hdc, my cdrom.
If your kernel doesn't support vfat, you can use type msdos for 8.3
filenames on the dos drive.
Lastly, can anyone point me to a good Newbie FAQ?
I'd recommend a good book, such as 'Running Linux' by Matt Welsh and Lar
Kaufmann, published by O'Reilly and Associates.
Bob
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Re: PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)
Louis-Philippe Alain writes: You want to know why I switched to Linux? Because Win95 was boring. I think what makes Linux be Linux is the fact that it's not very user friendly if you compare it to Win95. The nore it's hard to make a Linux box running as you want, the more you learn. There is nothing more boring than a simple task made needlessly complex. Do you program in machine code? I once did. Learned a lot. Never want to do it again, and see no reason why anyone else have to should do it. I love to read HOW-TOs and Documents to LEARN how to make what I want to make. I don't want it to be easier. Nobody is threatening to prevent you from making things as difficult for yourself as you wish. We just want to allow people to apply their talents to new problems, instead of solving the same old ones over and over. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: adduser
The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me. On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, George Bonser wrote: I manually ftp'd the one from hamm and installed it. On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Matthew C. Thompson wrote: greetings, so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect). Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: adduser
It works but installs only the first line of the dot-files in the home directories. On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote: The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me. On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, George Bonser wrote: I manually ftp'd the one from hamm and installed it. On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Matthew C. Thompson wrote: greetings, so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect). Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen George Bonser If I was in charge of the world, things would be a lot better (for me). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: adduser
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote: The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me. Oops, let me rephrase that. It automatically created an unknown default password. I had to remove the password field from /etc/passwd as root and then add the password with passwd. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)
A. M. Varon writes: Righto! linux treats you as a knowledgeable person, not some idiot who does'nt know how to use an OS. The truly knowledgeable person shares his knowledge. Why should we not share our knowledge of how to configure ppp with new users? Do you want to force them to go through some sort of silly rite of passage? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Thanks (was Future debian user)
Well looks like I am going to gve Deban a try. Thanks for all the suggestions and offers. I received 30 some odd mail on my first day -- I am impressed. And most of it was civil help and questions. One last question -- where is the best and most inexpensive place to get a Debian CD distribution. I have seen Debian's list, I just wanted some personal opinions. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Thanks (was Future debian user)
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Shaleh wrote: I am impressed. And most of it was civil help and questions. Don't worry, the hostile and rude answers are given to you later. grin One last question -- where is the best and most inexpensive place to get a Debian CD distribution. Check out http://www.lsl.com and/or http://www.cheapbytes.com. They both have the official Debian 2-CD set for sale for less than $5. Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / (FidoNet 1:325/805) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine. FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear after powering down, but linux comes back just fine. Cheers, Pann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a strange XTerm behaviour after upgrading to XFree 3.3-3. When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys: F1 gives P F2 gives Q F3 gives R F4 gives S F5 - F10 work just fine. When I start mc in a rxvt, all F-Keys work just fine. Has someone else encountered this problem ? So i'm not alone with this! :-( The only difference is that F1 does nothing at all, that F2 invokes the help screen which should have been invoked by the former function key, etc. The 'Learn keys' dialog doesn't change this behaviour at all. :-( Please submit a bug report as soon as possible. Is there any other means than switching back to XFree-3.2 to resolve this problem? Cheers, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany My Homepage in the WWW at the URL http://www.uni-mainz.de/~pseelig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: adduser
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:41:04 -0700 (MST), Bob Nielsen wrote: The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me. No it does not. Check the files it copies from /etc/skell. Yep, it only copies the first line. -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble
On 13 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a strange XTerm behaviour after upgrading to XFree 3.3-3. When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys: F1 gives P F2 gives Q F3 gives R F4 gives S F5 - F10 work just fine. When I start mc in a rxvt, all F-Keys work just fine. Has someone else encountered this problem ? So i'm not alone with this! :-( The only difference is that F1 does nothing at all, that F2 invokes the help screen which should have been invoked by the former function key, etc. The 'Learn keys' dialog doesn't change this behaviour at all. :-( Please submit a bug report as soon as possible. Is there any other means than switching back to XFree-3.2 to resolve this problem? Cheers, P. *8^) This problem is addressed in file README.xterm that came with the mc source distribution. I built my own mc debian package. README.xterm is located in /usr/local/lib/mc/term/. I'm not sure if the official mc debian package includes this file. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: adduser
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:41:04 -0700 (MST), Bob Nielsen wrote: The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me. No it does not. Check the files it copies from /etc/skell. Yep, it only copies the first line. Sorry, I didn't even realize that it was supposed to copy those files. I've only added a couple of users and set them up by hand. Is there a command to delete a user and remove the passwd and group entries? Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine. From: Pann McCuaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear after powering down, but linux comes back just fine. Try cat /proc/apm. If it is there, APM _is_ in the kernel and my information was out of date. If not, you really should be running a kernel with it before you hit the suspend button. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux Philippe Troin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.48 1997/07/14 05:59:38 phil Exp $ 1. Note I've taken over the maintenance of the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux from Sven Rudolph starting version 1.44 of this document. I've incorporated a lot of changes since. Please notify me of any errors. 2. General Questions 2.1. Before reading this document You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ http://www.debian.org/FAQ/. 2.2. Purpose of this document This document is intended to identify areas that need your contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ. 2.3. Getting newer versions of this document Newer versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP: o http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html o ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective- packages.txt 2.4. Feedback Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mention to which version of this document your comments refer. 3. Orphaned packages (An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.) Please inform me via e-mail: o when you find that you need to orphan a package o when you believe that the following list is incomplete o when you would like to maintain one of these packages. Orn E. Hansen : o dialdcost o hextype o speak-freely o xega o xmailtool o xspread Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o compress-package o ppd-adobe-common, ppd-adobe-extra, ppd-adobe-misc, ppd-gs o psptools llucius [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dialog Dominik Kubla [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o arpd o cflow o csh o lsof o open o ptx o spell o vlock Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o zyxel Raul D. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o j1 (in old source format) o sam (in old source format) o ucbmpeg (in old source format) o ucbmpegplay (in old source format) Michael Nonweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o ipx o nas o ncpfs Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mh-papers o term o witalian o pari, paridoc o wnorwegian Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xosview (probably to be abandonned) Doug Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o apsfilter Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o elisp-manual o emacs-lisp-intro o giftrans o idutch o mathpad o mfbasfnt o wdutch o wenglish Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o statserial o xarchie o bibindex J.A.vanderMost [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dmalloc Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o opie Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o fsp Patrick Weemeeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o tripwire Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xscreensaver Guy R. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dld (do we still need this ?) Patrick J Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mailpgp Dermot Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o radiusd-merit Fabien Ninoles [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o vrweb Volker Ossenkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o workman Others: o xcompat (should we drop it ?) o libc4 (a.out compatibility) 4. Packages needing a new maintainer Please inform me via e-mail: o when you find that you'd like to discontinue maintaining a package Please inform the mainatiner of the package: o when you would like to maintain one of the packages. Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o chimera (should be upgraded to v1.70) o enscript o seyon o lpr o xonix o xpat2 o xsok Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xarclock o lha o dosfstools o sendfile Joe Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o lxtools Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o ncsa o genromfs o bridge/bridgex (Bridging Tools for Kernel 2.0.X/2.1.X) o berolist o adbbs (needs a better setup of pre-customized files) o gpc o libgpc2 o gpc-doc o verse o freefont o fdos o sharefont o newsx o syslinux o pash o zmailer o isite o knfs o poppassd o transproxy o loadlin o freetype o omir o komirr o worklog o mserver Karl Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o sysutils Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dvi2tty o hyperlatex o info2www o latex2rtf o mysql Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o ftplib o lde o libdnd1 o libdnd1-dev o macutils o mcvert o offix-clipboard o offix-editor o offix-execute o offix-files o offix-trash o xabacus o xfishtank o xgalaga o xmcpustate o xodo Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o html2latex o icmake o ntfs o xftp Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o bin86 o libpaper o axe o es o pixmap 5. Packages that someone is working on Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian packages, but someone is working on providing a package. If you would like to work on one of these packages please contact the responsible person listed below. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl R. Sackett) : o swarm -
gdb dependencies
Hi, I installed gdb_4.16-10 from unstable. It depends on ncurses-3.4 and libreadlineg2. However, there are no such packages. Is this a bug or are these packages missing at the moment? Thanks, Ulf -- #include signature -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H Huang) writes: On 13 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a strange XTerm behaviour after upgrading to XFree 3.3-3. When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys: [...] This problem is addressed in file README.xterm that came with the mc source distribution. I built my own mc debian package. README.xterm is located in /usr/local/lib/mc/term/. I'm not sure if the official mc debian package includes this file. Yes, i know this document but this really makes me wonder why it actually worked flawlessly up to XFree-3.2 but no more since upgrading to XFree-3.3? It worked ok with xterm without any special tweaking as described in README.xterm but the switch to XFree-3.3 obviously broke something for MC and i'd like to know what it is!? Well, i'll send another message to the MC mailing list. Cheers, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany My Homepage in the WWW at the URL http://www.uni-mainz.de/~pseelig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: gdb dependencies
Hi,
I installed gdb_4.16-10 from unstable. It depends on ncurses-3.4 and
libreadlineg2. However, there are no such packages.
Is this a bug or are these packages missing at the moment?
neighter. They are just still sitting in incoming.
I've put those packages in
ftp://rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl/debian/incoming
for those that cannot access master's incoming. However, there are
many other (better) incoming mirrors, that I keep forgeting to
save a pointer to.
--
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Re: [gtk-list] Re: sane problems
these are the errors i received: gdk.c:31: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory This sounds to me like you need to install the XFree86 developement package. For RedHat systems, this is the XFree86-devel rpm, but I don't know what it would be for your Debian system (although I'm sure there is one). Install it and try again. Yep, xlib6-dev. I think you need the xpm and xpm-dev packages as well, but I could be wrong. Ian ok, here's what i went and got: getting: stable/binary-i386/libs/tk40_4.0p3-5.deb (486302) getting: stable/binary-i386/x11/xpm4.7-dev_3.4g-9.deb (29020) getting: stable/binary-i386/x11/xlib6-dev_3.3-3.deb (614682) getting: stable/binary-i386/devel/tcl76-dev_7.6p2-4.deb (630164) ...and after i did a ./configure, i did make, and got these errors: ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XUngrabPointer' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XPutImage' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XCreatePixmap' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XUnmapWindow' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XSetFillStyle' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XCreateGC' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' ...actually, there were *way* too many of these to list, these were just the last ones. what else should i get??? thanks, matty -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Any AMD users ? troubles with direct mount
Hi there ! I tried to direct mount some filesystems like descriped in the reference - No success :( Mounting under a toplvl works fine but no direct access like the /usr/man or the rwho example ... Any hints or maps for me ? b.t.w. i am using debian 1.3 and amd 5.2.2.2 of 1992/05/31 16:53:21 bsd44-beta #0: Wed Apr 16 12:11:08 CEST 1997 Built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] for an i386 running linux version 2.0. thanxs Oliver Landsmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~shark -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux Router Project -- About to get working and need more people!
Linux Router Project -- About to get working and need more people! The Linux Router Project is about to begin work on our minimal root fs. Very crucial to this are people that truely understand the dependencies of networking functions and utilities. I'm looking to use Debian 1.3.1 as the base to get working so guru's that know the Deb system will be of the most help. Base root size can be no more then 1mb compressed (about 2.5mb uncompressed) so all 100% unessential parts must go. (Please don't send me mail saying it can't be done. At least 3 of us on the list have done it, and we just want a complete base for the project to work with.) If you're interested visit the LRP webpage @ http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ and join the mailing list. -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dosemu lredir don't redir :-(
Brent Hendricks wrote: But OpenDOS from Caldera uses lredir just fine. I haven't had any problems using OpenDOS with DOSEMU. No more MS operating systems on my computer! Now if only we could redistribute OpenDOS with DOSEMU. The second best thing would be to have an .deb package that would automatically download OpenDOS from the Caldera ftp site and install it under DosEmu. Or does such a package already exist? Mike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [gtk-list] Re: sane problems
these are the errors i received: gdk.c:31: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory This sounds to me like you need to install the XFree86 developement package. For RedHat systems, this is the XFree86-devel rpm, but I don't know what it would be for your Debian system (although I'm sure there is one). Install it and try again. Yep, xlib6-dev. I think you need the xpm and xpm-dev packages as well, but I could be wrong. Ian ok, here's what i went and got: getting: stable/binary-i386/libs/tk40_4.0p3-5.deb (486302) getting: stable/binary-i386/x11/xpm4.7-dev_3.4g-9.deb (29020) getting: stable/binary-i386/x11/xlib6-dev_3.3-3.deb (614682) getting: stable/binary-i386/devel/tcl76-dev_7.6p2-4.deb (630164) ...and after i did a ./configure, i did make, and got these errors: ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XUngrabPointer' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XPutImage' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XCreatePixmap' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XUnmapWindow' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XSetFillStyle' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XCreateGC' ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' You surely missed libX11.so.6 which is in plain xlib6 package. And, there is possibility that loader line in Makefile had incorrect order of libraries specified. Alex Y. ...actually, there were *way* too many of these to list, these were just the last ones. what else should i get??? thanks, matty -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 | Alexander Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
question on emacs and xterm under XFree 3.3-3
Hi, I have just upgraded to XFree 3.3-3 . All went smoothly but I have two questions Firstly when I start emacs I get the following warning Warning: Cannot convert string %s to type %s Can anyone tell me what this is ? Secondly I used to have xterm-color as my default xterm Now I get the standard xterm. How can I get xterm color back? Thanks for any help George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Weekly log reporting system for apache?
Are their any (hopfully debianized) reporting systems that will create nice readable reports from accesses to users pages? My last ISP had something he made but you won't give them to me : If there is nothing out there I will write something, but my time could be better used. -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Weekly log reporting system for apache?
Dave Cinege [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are their any (hopfully debianized) reporting systems that will create nice readable reports from accesses to users pages? My last ISP had something he made but you won't give them to me : If there is nothing out there I will write something, but my time could be better used. Not debianized, but quite useful : http://www.unimelb.edu.au/pwebstats/pwebstats.html Hope this helps ingo fischenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Thanks (was Future debian user)
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Shaleh wrote: Well looks like I am going to gve Deban a try. Thanks for all the suggestions and offers. I received 30 some odd mail on my first day -- I am impressed. And most of it was civil help and questions. One last question -- where is the best and most inexpensive place to get a Debian CD distribution. I have seen Debian's list, I just wanted some personal opinions. It depends, if you have a fast ethernet connetion, you can download the base disks, rawrite them, and ftp the rest over. Otherwise you can buy the official or (oficial [sic]) CD from CheapBytes or LSL for just a few bucks. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: gdb dependencies
No, those packages are still in Incoming on master. Shaya On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: Hi, I installed gdb_4.16-10 from unstable. It depends on ncurses-3.4 and libreadlineg2. However, there are no such packages. Is this a bug or are these packages missing at the moment? Thanks, Ulf -- #include signature -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Weekly log reporting system for apache?
On 14 Jul 1997 13:13:42 +0200, Ingo Fischenich wrote: Dave Cinege [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are their any (hopfully debianized) reporting systems that will create nice readable reports from accesses to users pages? My last ISP had something he made but you won't give them to me : If there is nothing out there I will write something, but my time could be better used. Not debianized, but quite useful : http://www.unimelb.edu.au/pwebstats/pwebstats.html Holy Hell! I was just looking for something to come up with an ASCII listing of domain/MB to email to users. This sucker gives color bar, pie, and plot graphs!!! Wow!! (Glad I didn't get the junk my ISP had!! ; ) Hope this helps Yes... Thank you. I think this may be worthly of a deb package -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Serious problem with adduser_3.4
I have the following problem with this version of adduser. Here's what I get when I try to add a user to my system: # adduser adams Adding user adams... Selecting from 1000 2 (0,0,1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7,8,8,9,9,10,10,11,11,13,13,15,20,21,21,22,24,25,26,29,30,30,31,31,32,33,33,34,34,35,35,36,36,37,37,40,42,50,60,100,101,102,102,103,104,105,1000,1000,1001,1001,1002,1002,1003,1003,1004,1004,1005,1005,1006,1006,1007,1007,1008,1008,1009,1009,1010,1010,1011,1011,1012,1012,1013,1013,1014,1014,1015,1015,1016,1016,1017,1017,1018,1018,1019,1020,1020,1021,1021,1022,1022,1023,1023,1024,1024,1025,1025,1026,1026,1027,1027,1028,1028,1029,1029,1030,1030,1031,1031,1032,1032,1033,1033,1034,1034,1035,1035,1036,1036,65534,65534). Adding new group adams (1037). groupadd -g 1037 adams Adding new user adams (1037) with group adams. useradd -d /home/adams -g adams -s /bin/bash -u 1037 adams useradd: unknown group adams adduser: `useradd -d /home/adams -g adams -s /bin/bash -u 1037 adams' returned error. Aborting. # tail -2 /etc/group +::: adams:x:1037: As you can see, adams is added after the NIS entry and then useradd can't see it. Is this a bug? -- Pedro I. Sanchez -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine. From: Pann McCuaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear after powering down, but linux comes back just fine. Try cat /proc/apm. If it is there, APM _is_ in the kernel and my information was out of date. If not, you really should be running a kernel with it before you hit the suspend button. No such file or directory -- your information is _not_ out of date. I have a small (40mb) partition on this laptop that I must use primarily for work-related DOS/Windows development -- I need (want) linux available, but normally boot in from DOS which keeps my modem alive, and neither the APM or PCMCIA features are important to me at this point. I just wanted to point out that, at least on this model, suspend/resume doesn't require APM (at least not if you're not using or don't need to access PCMCIA cards). Cheers, Pann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Weekly log reporting system for apache?
There is Analog that is a .deb package under net or web on the ftp sites. It does an OK job, personally, I use a perl script program called Accesswatch as far as I know it is not a .deb package. It is at http://accesswatch.com/ next to nothing in configuration is needed and it runs without a cgi-bin (I have it set in the cron to run at 11:45 every night). That is it's one drawback, it is a daily program, it doesn't do it weekly or monthly ... maybe ask the author for a version to do that next release. Chad On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: Are their any (hopfully debianized) reporting systems that will create nice readable reports from accesses to users pages? My last ISP had something he made but you won't give them to me : If there is nothing out there I will write something, but my time could be better used. -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southwest Technology Development Institute New Mexico State University --- HP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ DBP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)
At 21:50 13/07/97 -0500, you wrote: The truly knowledgeable person shares his knowledge. Why should we not share our knowledge of how to configure ppp with new users? Do you want to force them to go through some sort of silly rite of passage? No it`s not what I meant. I didn't seen it this way. When I first installed Linux two weeks ago, I had troubles with my ISP. I called the Tech support line, explained my problem. The guy said he knew what my problem was but don't remember what to do to fix. He said he has a book at home on Linux that explained that but he didn't remember the command. I just said ok. And searched on Linux and Debian documentations that was online. I finnally found what was my problem on my own. While I was searching on the documantation, I found a lot of other things that was interresting. If my ISP had gave me the answer when I called him, I would be at the same level as I was before to call him. I had just do what he told me to do. That's it that's all. And now? If another problem appears. What will I do? Call my ISP begging for help? No. I learned how to fix my problems on my own. By taking the time to read the man pages, and documentations. If you give every answers to every problems that a new user encounter, how will he learn? Why should he learn to read man pages? He don't need to, he just have to call his ISP, ask how to do that, vomit the command the ISP told him to do without even know what the command mean, and that's it. Give food to someone, and when he'll be hungry, he will always ask you for food. Show him how to go fishing, and when he'll be hungry, he'll go fishing on his own and will be self-sufficient. (Excuse my english) Sure there are problems that are a lot more important than setting up a ppp connection. But every new user, have to sit down, take some hours to read some man pages and HOW-TOs, and just learn by themself how to set up their PPP. They have to realize that Linux is not Win95. It's not Idiot-Proof. As a new user, I can tell you that setting up my ppp connection was hard. Really. But now that I know, it was simple. And it is now simple because I understood what I did to make it work. The point is not to force new user to pass through silly rite of passage. It's just to let them learn. Not without sharing our knowledge. As soon as I will have more knowledge, I'll write some texts about things that hadn't been documented before. Giving material to discover how to do things is not (IMHO) like calling an ISP, asking how to do that, the ISP gives you the command and hang up. You type in the command like a dumb and don't know what you're doing, you just type in. I don't think an ISP will take the time to explain everything in details on why do this, what this command is, etc. This is nothing more then my opinion. --- Imagination is more important then knowledge. - Albert Einstein - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Louis-Philippe Alain: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Problems with Debian 1.3 new installation and ThinkPad 365XD
On 11-Jul-97 Timothy J. Miller wrote: I'm attempting a new install on the ThinkPad 365XD w/800x600 display, 40Mb RAM, CDROM and external floppy; at boot, the system reports root.bin loaded, then linux, then it simply halts. I thought that the consensus was that the 365XD cannot boot bzImages. I went the route of installing Debian 1.1 (with boot disks using zImages) and then upgrading. The most direct solution is to compile an appropriate zImage on a working Linux machine and add that to the boot floppy. The ThinkPad 760LD is running an upgrade from Debian 1.2. I didn't have any boot problems with the initial Debian 1.1 installation on the 760LD, *or* with the complete reinstall I did with Debian 1.2. The linux-2.0.30 without modifications; in the past it has also booted the 2.0.27, 28, and 29. From messages on this list, the 760LD works fine with the boot floppies. I would be interested in your experience with the 365XD if you get Debian installed. I have had troubles with sporadic kernel panics and other errors. Although I followed the instructions for upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3, I have ended up with a bad ldso package (probably through a kernel panic or other error that went unnoticed by me). Now I cannot use dpkg to successfully perform any act to rescue my system. So far, nobody on the debian-users list has been able to suggest a way to rescue the system. Maybe I will just have to reinstall from scratch - so much for the power of Debian on my Thinkpad. Paul Rightley - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 1.3.1 upgrade: getting rid of the package base 1.1.0-13 -- dselect and downgrading dosemu
Hi, At 04:45 PM 7/11/97 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote: However, edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and remove the paragraph about the base package, and that will effectively purge it. Forcing dpkg to remove the package removes all of the files in /dev. It's my error, sorry. But removing this paragraph by hand will still leave the files base.conffiles base.list base.postinst in /var/lib/dpkg/info, right? Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 Cel.: +58-16-234700 Where does this path lead? said Alice Depends on where you want to go. Said the cat (Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Smail configuration
Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ? Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] locally. Thanks -- -- Alex Monaghan Network Support Analyst, Royal Mail Anglia London Rd, Stevenage, SG1 1AA, UK Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] STD 01438 767081 Postline5811 7081 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X-Windows...
Can anyone tell me why I would want X-Windows??? Is this just a cheesy windows look a like or is there some advantages. I did install it once ( a long time ago) but didn't think it even compared to Windows 3.0... Tony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dosemu and lredir problem redirecting drives
I installed Debian 1.3.1 with DOSEMU. Mapping drives according to the
documentation didn't work for me...
Welcome to dosemu 0.66!
C:\ lredir e: \linux\fs\tmp
Error 3e redirecting drive E: to \LINUX\FS\TMP
C:\ lredir e: \linux\fs/msdos
Error 40 redirecting drive E: to \LINUX\FS/MSDOS
(BTW /msdos does exist and mounted to /dev/hda1)
C:\ lredir help
Usage: LREDIR [drive: LINUX\FS\path [R] HELP]
Redirect a drive to the Linux file system.
LREDIR X: LINUX\FS\tmp
Redirect drive X: to /tmp of Linux file system for read/write
If R is specified, the drive will be read-only
${home} represents user's home directory
This is the syntax according to the notes. What am I doing wrong?
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NSLOOKUP don't work
After getting debian installed I tried to do a nslookup and I get this message: *** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent host.domain *** Default servers are not available. What did I do wrong? Tony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
? missing files... ?
hello. i' am looking for a little help form anyone with a little more experience with the debian distribution. i have installed debian 1.3 over the net (yes it was slow) and i have it up and running including xfree86. however i do not appear to have a complete development environment. although i have installed gcc and other development pkgs i still do not appear to have the make program or stdio.h for that matter. does anyone know what package these utilities come in, either one of the basic ones, or a development package? you help is much appreciated. //daryl -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dosemu and lredir problem redirecting drives
Paul == Paul Kirschner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul I installed Debian 1.3.1 with DOSEMU. Mapping drives Paul according to the documentation didn't work for me... FreeDOS unfortunately does not work with lredir. Try Caldera's OpenDOS or (shudder) Billy's Ms. dos. -- Brought to you by the letters S and V and the number 16. I'm with insurance. -- 12 Monkeys Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ? missing files... ?
hello. i' am looking for a little help form anyone with a little more experience with the debian distribution. i have installed debian 1.3 over the net (yes it was slow) and i have it up and running including xfree86. however i do not appear to have a complete development environment. although i have installed gcc and other development pkgs i still do not appear to have the make program or stdio.h for that matter. does anyone know what package these utilities come in, either one of the basic ones, or a development package? You have to download and install libc5-dev and make packages from bo/binary/devel Alex Y. you help is much appreciated. //daryl -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 | Alexander Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help transfering data....
Kevin J Poorman hat gesagt: // Kevin J Poorman wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi. I just got a new hard drive and wish to transfer my root fs to this new drive as it is larger now to the hard part ... I Tryed to do a cp -a * /mnt (where the new hd was mounted) but it sat there cp'ing files for an hour and never got past the proc directory did I do something wrong ... I know that before on this list some published a way to do this with tar I would like to do it that way if posible I don't like all this tar-tricks people normally suggest, because I am to stupid to remember them ;) A simple solution is the -x-switch to cp (Try man cp). copy -ax copies everything only out of the one filesystem where you started. /proc is another `filesystem` so it won't get copied to your /mnt-directory. I think that is what you wanted to do in the first place. After you're done you will have to create a /proc directory in /mnt and edit the mount table in /etc/fstab. -- Yours, Frank Barknecht a href=http://www.koeln-online.de/einblick/; Das Kölner Stadt- und Unimagazin /a --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X-Windows...
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:50:26 -0500, Tony Koehn wrote: Can anyone tell me why I would want X-Windows??? Is this just a cheesy windows look a like or is there some advantages. I Well all the networking things, IE running remote clients, etc did install it once ( a long time ago) but didn't think it even compared to Windows 3.0... X-windows doesn't have any user interface. That is good. But there really isn't much of a selection of GUI's for Xthis is the problem. The problem with Windows is the peice of shit GUI it has, you're stuck with. Right now I live in OS/2 and pray that somebody will port the WPS to X soon. -- Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ? missing files... ?
hello. i' am looking for a little help form anyone with a little more experience with the debian distribution. i have installed debian 1.3 over the net (yes it was slow) and i have it up and running including xfree86. however i do not appear to have a complete development environment. although i have installed gcc and other development pkgs i still do not appear to have the make program or stdio.h for that matter. does anyone know what package these utilities come in, either one of the basic ones, or a development package? The library file stdio.h comes in libc5-dev. There should be a package for make. I would go to www.debian.org/packages.html if you can't find it. A handy tip for when you can't find a file you think you might have: dpkg -S filename Dennis + dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED] + work : 517.353.8892 + + Systems Undergrad + pager: 517.222.5875 + + Division of Engineering Computing Services + + -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble
H Huang writes: On 13 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a strange XTerm behaviour after upgrading to XFree 3.3-3. When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys: F1 gives P F2 gives Q F3 gives R F4 gives S F5 - F10 work just fine. When I start mc in a rxvt, all F-Keys work just fine. Has someone else encountered this problem ? So i'm not alone with this! :-( The only difference is that F1 does I get the same behavior with Matlab. So it is not an mc related issue. It must be an XFree86 3.3 issue. My $.02 Brian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Netscape 3.x mail
Good morning, all. Downloaded and installed Netscape, excelent install, I commend the writer of that package. Anyway, it won't send mail. I get FCC file not found. Not being one to believe too seriously in every conspiricy theory I run accross in alt.conspiricy.black-helocopters, do tell what is this FCC file? Netscape 3.02, Debian 2.0.3 Curt- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 3.x mail
Anyway, it won't send mail. I get FCC file not found. That is a problem with the mail dir not existing. Create the dir that is listed in the mail properties. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 3.x mail
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Curt Howland wrote: Downloaded and installed Netscape, excelent install, I commend the writer of that package. Anyway, it won't send mail. I get FCC file not found. Did you catch the little blurb at the end of dselect's Netscape install which explains what you need to modify in order to make Netscape do mail? I can't remember what it was exactly, but recall that it had something to do with changing Netscape's default mail settings and chmod'ing the system's mail. As an aside, I wish there was a way for dselect to force a press ENTER after displaying those types of comments; they flash by far too quickly. Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / (FidoNet 1:325/805) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 3.x mail
Anyway, it won't send mail. I get FCC file not found. Not being one to believe too seriously in every conspiricy theory I run accross in alt.conspiricy.black-helocopters, do tell what is this FCC file? Check the setting of Netscape. Open the dialog from Options - Mail News Preferences - Compose, and make sure the file you set in the input box following the label 'by default copy outgoing messages to:' is exist. -- Shigeru IKEDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] GE d@ H- s !g p# !au a w@ v C++$ UBLS P+ L+ 3+ E+ N+ K- W-- M(+) V- -po+ Y+ t !5 !j R G? !tv b++ !D B? e++ u+ h-- f++ r+ n-- y+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ? missing files... ?
i still do not appear to have the make program
or stdio.h for that matter.
does anyone know what package these utilities come
in, either one of the basic ones, or a development
package?
The library file stdio.h comes in libc5-dev. There should be a package
for make. I would go to www.debian.org/packages.html if you can't find
it. A handy tip for when you can't find a file you think you might have:
dpkg -S filename
dpkg -S filename is _very_ useful, execpt when you're looking for
a package that contains a file that is not on your system:
-S only finds packages that are on your system.
For files that are not on your system, I recomment looking at the
Contents-i386.gz, on your local mirror.
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Re: mailing list archives needs updated..
Although I found the information I was looking for, it would be nice to have archives updated. Isn't this done automagically? The maintainer of the archive is returning from vacation today. For some unknown reason, the web pages stopped being updated just before he left (although the archives are functioning properly). Expect them to be fixed within the next few days. - Sue -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
Alex Monaghan writes: Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ? Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] locally. run smailconfig (run from postinst) and configure as internet leaf site/ with smarthost. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ /Eine Kette ist nur so stark wie ihr schwächstes Glied / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP script working at last.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Puryear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I _can_ believe it and I don't think it's your fault -- after there is a directory /etc/ppp all the files _should_ be there, IMO. As it is now, the configuration of ppp is not easy to understand. IIRC the new PPP (version 2.3?) has all its scripts in /etc/ppp. Adrian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Martin Schulze wrote: Alex Monaghan writes: Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ? Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] locally. run smailconfig (run from postinst) and configure as internet leaf site/ with smarthost. I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1): You must choose one of the options below: (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery. (3) Satellite system: No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. (4) Local delivery only: You are not on a network. Mail for local users is delivered. (5) No configuration: No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and should not be used. You must then do the configuration yourself later or run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Bonser writes: Ok, then why not adopt some default standard (Say PAP like windows does) that you MAY CHANGE but for newbies, asks them what the phone number is, what their password is and username and then sets the darned thing up to act like Win95 does on a PPP login so that any ISP that supports Windows DUN by default... Good idea. ditto I also still think that the install script should offer Dial up an ISP and use dynamic IP as a separate menu item. Selecting this would bring up a menu in which Would you like to set PPP up like Win95 DUN would be one of the choices. No, you're assuming that a user knows what dynamic IP is. They should be separate entries at top-level. ...this is about 100% of US providers... There are still plenty of ISP's out here using screwball arrangements. Well, even if only 50% of ISP's are Win'95-oriented this will still make ppp config easier for 50% of new users -- and that's about 50% better then what we have now. -- Dimitri reply to emaziuk @ curtin dot edu dot au --- What color is a chameleon on a mirror? ( Zen koan ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xserver-svga 3.3-3 on an lcd
There were a lot of problems I saw... hopefully solved now. My problem is different: I manage to get into X as before, but the server seems to add noise to the image when something changes on the screen. It begins with some stars (single pixels) before even the grey pattern appears, continuously pattering the screen while moving the cursor, like an old tv without an antenna. This happens with several Chipset entries. After some tries even the normal text font begins to show some strange pixels. (My t's showing up here are quite ugly...) What can I do to get my screen back? my old Device config in xf86config: (I used the best match) Section Device Identifier Trident TGUI9420DGi (generic) VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown #VideoRam1024 Ramdac sc15025 Clockchip sc11412 EndSection this is my new try which shows the same snow: Section Device Identifier Trident TGUI9420DGi (generic) VendorName IBM BoardName Laptop card VideoRam1024 ChipSet tgui9320lcd EndSection this shows up when starting the server: XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: disabled (**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings) (**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: Trident TGUI9420DGi (generic) (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: My Monitor (--) SVGA: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (--) SVGA: PCI: Trident TGUI 9320 rev 227, Memory @ 0x0800, 0x0820 (--) SVGA: Revision 3. (--) SVGA: Using Trident programmable clocks (**) SVGA: chipset: tgui9320lcd (**) SVGA: videoram: 1024k (**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode 800x600: mode clock = 40.000 (**) SVGA: Mode 640x480: mode clock = 31.500 (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 800x600 (--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024 (--) SVGA: Using Linear Frame Buffer at 0x0800, Size 1MB (--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture) (--) SVGA: XAA: No acceleration primitives defined. Gruss -- Lukas Eppler (godot) http://www.fear.ch telnet://soil.fear.ch: talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
Bob Nielsen writes: I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1): You must choose one of the options below: (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery. This should be easily changable to use a smtp smarthost instead of uucp smart host. (3) Satellite system: No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. Have you tried this? (4) Local delivery only: You are not on a network. Mail for local users is delivered. (5) No configuration: No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and should not be used. You must then do the configuration yourself later or run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root. Umh I see, smailconfig lacks this special option. I'll send you my configuration in a separate mail. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ /Eine Kette ist nur so stark wie ihr schwächstes Glied / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re:Netscape Mail 3.x
From: Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, it won't send mail. I get FCC file not found. That is a problem with the mail dir not existing. Create the dir that is listed in the mail properties. Sure enough, that was exactly the problem. Thank you for pointing out something obvious that I'd completely missed. After installing this at other times and having the same problem, you'd think I might remember. It was the FCC File Not Found that threw me. Why FCC of all the words they could have used... Curt- --- Curt Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Priss.com The Probability Broach by L. Neil Smith ISBN:0-812-53875-7 Available from Laissez Faire Books http://www.lfb.org/ 1.800.326.0996 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
staroffice / netscape debian packages?
Hi! It may have been asked before but I didnt find it in my messagebase (must have been flushed out already.): 1) is there a staroffice debian package? if yes, where? 2) is there a netscape debian package? if yes, where? does not have to be the newest version, more important is wether is runs stable 3) does the dosemu supports Windows? Appart from that the Debian installation on a 486 worked like a charm. I installed from the base disc I made out from a CD with Debian 1.2 and then installed everything else via network (since the machine I installed debian on did not have a working cd rom drive at the moment.). Have to upgrade to kernel 2.0.29 tough. I certainly can recommend the debian distribution to everyone who wants to install Linux and will do that. Hope that debian m68k will sooner or later get into this mature state. Is there a debian ppc in development? I look forward to buy a ppc based machine next year, either a CHRP or a Amiga successor ;-) -- |_| _ |o _ _ Martin Steigerwald | |(/_||(_)_ http://home.pages.de/~helios -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Anacron/Cron
I have finally installed anacron. Since my machine doesn't run 24 hours a day, no cron scripts have ever run, so my log files are getting out of hand. The package description for anacron says It's also a good replacement for cron on systems, that don't run continuously 24 hours a day but are powered on and shut down several times a day. Now that anacron is taking over the daily, weekly and monthly cron jobs, can I safely remove cron, or is it required for other system functions? Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
md5sum failure update
Thanks to those who wrote. The suggestion was that I had ftp set to ascii mode but was not the case. My ftp program is fairly reliable in auto mode and the files were all the correct size. What I have since done is add the -b (binary mode) switch in running md5sum.exe instead of blindly following the instructions with only the -cv switches set. With -b set I receive an OK for all 85 files. Now once I figure out how to concatenate these files with whatever is in my NT box, and write a CD, I may be on my way to more wonderful Linux thrills. Chris -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
In smailconfig, you must choose option (1), then after several more questions, you give your ISP's mail server's name in response to: Do you have a smarthost available (and accessible via SMTP) ? A smarthost is a system to which you forward mail you don't want to deliver yourself; it presumably has better connectivity or routing information than you do. Commercial providers usually provide a smarthost for their customers, and large organisations will often have a site mail switch which can be used. Use of a smarthost is strongly recommended (you'll be able to specify exactly when to use it soon). If a smarthost is available please enter its name (otherwise, `none'). Enter value (`x' to restart): Then choose (1) to the following: Do you wish to use the smarthost for: (1) All outbound mail. This is good if your system is poorly connected, eg via dialup SLIP, as you don't have to talk to distant machines yourself, and it allows you to send out just one copy of a message for all its the remote recipients. (2) Mail that you have failed to find a way to route. This means that mail for any unknown hosts or domains will be sent to the smarthost in the hope that it will know better; if it doesn't the smarthost should bounce it back to you. This is recommended for most situations, and usually results in faster end-to-end delivery than always using the smarthost. (3) Only mail to the `awkward' UUCP and BITNET domains. These domains don't appear in the Internet routing tables, and how to reach them varies depending on your location. Use this if your smarthost's admin has asked you to avoid using the smarthost unnecessarily, or if it is unreliable or very slow. Select a number from 1 to 3, from the list above. This will give the results that I think the original poster was looking for. Bob On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:02:05 Martin Schulze wrote: Bob Nielsen writes: I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1): You must choose one of the options below: (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery. This should be easily changable to use a smtp smarthost instead of uucp smart host. (3) Satellite system: No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. Have you tried this? (4) Local delivery only: You are not on a network. Mail for local users is delivered. (5) No configuration: No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and should not be used. You must then do the configuration yourself later or run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root. Umh I see, smailconfig lacks this special option. I'll send you my configuration in a separate mail. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ /Eine Kette ist nur so stark wie ihr schwächstes Glied / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . 0 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbie Question
Bob Nielsen wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, David Wilde wrote:
Firstly let me say that I have never used Linux and I am learning as I go
along.
I have installed debian ver 1.2 on a second hard drive on my PC. I didn't
encounter any real problems during installation so I assume everything is
OK.
Now I would like to install a GUI (fvwm) and I have downloaded a copy of
the same from the Web. I copied the file onto a floppy but I cannot access
my A:/ drive.
If you configure Linux for networking, you will be able to access the
Internet directly via your ISP. You can then use dselect to retrieve and
install Debian packages directly from ftp.debian.org or its mirrors.
During startup I have established the following:
hda1 is my DOS drive containing Win95
hdb is my CDROM
hdc1 is my Linux Swap
hdc2 is my Linux Native
fd0 is my 1.44M Floppy
I used the command df and all it shows is:
/dev/hdc2
Why can I not see/access my other drives? Have I not done something? Any
help would be much appreciated.
You have to mount the partitions before Linux can access them. See the
man pages on mount and fstab. ('man mount' and 'man fstab')
To mount your floppy drive, you should use something like:
mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt,
where this drive will show up in your file system as /mnt.
[some stuff deleted...]
Hi David,
all what Bob sayed is OK. But I never mount a floppy disk. I prefer to
access it either with the tar commmand or - if I want to transfer
files to a DOS/WIN-PC - with the mtools. tar should always be
installed on your system and the mtools package you may found in the
section misc. If you have knowlege of DOS, the use of the mtools
commands is very easy:
DOS mtools
--
dir a:mdir a:
copy *.* a: mcopy * a:
cd \my.dirmcd /my.dir
and so on. But don't forget to protect the asterisk, if you specify it
on the floppy part of the command:
mcopy a:* .
otherwise the shell wants to replace it with all filenames in the
current directory (see man bash - or whatever shell you use).
Hope that helps.
-CU
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Re: Problems with Debian 1.3 new installation and ThinkPad 365XD
Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought that the consensus was that the 365XD cannot boot bzImages. I went the route of installing Debian 1.1 (with boot disks using zImages) and then upgrading. The most direct solution is to compile an appropriate zImage on a working Linux machine and add that to the boot floppy. I've gone and created an appropriate zImage (at least, it boots the ThinkPad 760LD) and I'd like to use it in place of the bzImage on the rescue disk. The root.bin image loads, my replacement kernel loads off disk, uncompresses, and boots up to the point of mounting the root FS, where it failes utterly. Last set of output from the boot is: RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem) [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap] [me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,ts=0,ls=0] Transaction block size = 512 [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap] [me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,ts=0,ls=0] Transaction block size = 512 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:01 Everything the readme.txt file asks for is compiled in: ramdisk, initrd, msdos, fat, minix, elf, ext2fs, procfs. The rdev.sh script on the rescue disk sets the boot device to /dev/ram0; I've a /dev/ram, but no /dev/ram0. Setting /dev/ram in place of /dev/ram0 doesn't work. The new image is built from the current debian kernel sources (2.0.27); the bzimage on the rescue disk is 2.0.29 IIRC. What am I missing? (BTW-- XFree86 3.3 SVGA server on a Trident Cyber9320 [a.k.a. tgui9320lcd] sucks large rocks through small straws. It works, and it's usable, but any moving object creates static lines, similar to another report.) -- Cerebus [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: BC AB 28 19 A6 A4 FF 5B CA 4D B4 03 3A A7 F4 5C -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
man pages, etc.
I just used the Debian installation for linux and it was a pleasure = compared to slackware! There are a couple of things that don't work = however. I can't seem to execute a man page session. When I look for the man = executable I can't find it, all though I do have some gziped man pages. The file command doesn't seem to be present either. Can anyone help = me? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Motif v lesstif - was Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 ...
What do you mean? Making Lesstif and Motif binary compatible? You must have OSF source for that :) I know that if someone want to sell Motif, he needs to buy the source from OSF and compile it. And if he wants to use the name Motif to sell their compilation, he needs to pay extra royalties. Well, when someone buy a compiled Motif (for about US$ 70,00), he receives a great amount of tools to develop applications with it, plus the libraries binaries. But there are *many* guys, like me, who won't use these tools. I, for example, would buy it only for the shared libraries, because with them many applications (like StarOffice) could work faster and with less memory. So, I think: US$ 70,00 is really *much* money for only one or two files. I don't want to program with Motif, nor use the Motif Window Manager for X (I use Afterstep) so, why not someone sells only the libraries? Or even best: why Linux users don't join to buy the source, compile these libraries, and distribute them for free? Maybe I'm crazy, but who knows? It's an idea... ;-) []'s Alexander Gieg =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By: Alexander Gieg E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222/ IRC: AlexG =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There will be a time in which *all* the computers in the Earth will be using Linux! Amen! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
cp command
Really easy The best way to copy a directory tree from one drive to another is cp -pr /usr /hd Thanks Syd http://www.uc.edu/~alsobrsp How do you know you're having fun if there's no one watching you have it. Douglas Adams -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzN3eq0AAAEEAMGqDqrPkUM0PEPT4UBXCVDylEkUabrkqq/yBk1koSqHWlxs 02wVIVl/2B33MuS1aF3XfjvQLH2J6VJTUtyOwH2yglfpyJ68/TaE7od2gT3V99ax a/bENj3x5xnCxQFuKJCBUi4l5CoHEEn8Og6I0IS3vz+nJFkKF0AiZe6TgKrhAAUR tCVTeWQgQWxzb2Jyb29rIDxhbHNvYnJzcEBlbWFpbC51Yy5lZHU+iQCVAwUQM3eI 00AiZe6TgKrhAQHMWAP/W/ZacyMwNrHF0LU3eMyzTbjeFotEws1FmmE2ALjTgVI2 emtsN7vynlZ17p4qPDPlO18G/PTQ2r61kIywmn3bApaTsij5wSXMYv+4VRUvs1wX Ie8gHs6jGZBa3wnutCzaDDW/VPy/atpvLSWTc7Mku1BJzee5whRxxw+QUK2KjD0= =EjnG -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian + AfterStep= no color (fwd)
Hi all, My specs: 486 DX-2 66mhz 20 megs RAM STB Horizon video card w/ 1 meg RAM I currently have Slackware with XFree 3.1.2 installed on HDA5 and I recently decided to try Debian 1.3 with XFree 3.3, which is now installed on HDA3. Afterstep is my window manager in both cases. I have no problems with the Slackware setup - Afterstep works beautifully and is very appealing visually. Under Debian however, I have almost NO color. Upon exit I see the message: Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for [color] My XF86Config is the same in both cases, as is my .steprc. My root window has a simple grey background, I am running at 8bpp, nothing special loaded except the wharf and Afterstep icons. I have shutdown everything I can prior to starting X, I have plenty of swap space allocated. The results are the same whether I start X as root or user. I have been RTFM but cannot find anything that refrences this particular problem. RGB.txt is in the proper place and path set. Suggestions? Did I forget to install / configure something? Do I need to downgrade to 3.1.2? The window manager is FUNCTIONAL but it certainly does not look as good. The thing that really confounds me is that the same setup works so well with Slackware. TIA Pat Van Ryn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XF86 3.3-3
Christopher Jason Morrone wrote: (clip) In any case, the XF86 3.3 packages are definitely broken. I'd fill out a bug report, but unfortunately, I can't be any more specific than that right now. (clip) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I found my keyboard/screen, and possibly the whole thing (don't remember) would lock up when I had an S3, but adding the nolinear option fixed the problem. This was with the older version, i.e. it happened with 3.1 or 3.2. However, other things changed with my config at 3.3, so maybe you might want to try turning options like this on and off. Video was an S3 on the mainboard, now I have upgraded both and xf86config got me a fairly good config, although my old compaq monitor can't keep up to the new video card frequency wise. (I know this post is a little light on the solution side, but noone seems to have definitely hit the nail yet, so.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GNU--1.3---Linux--2.0.30--- You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NSLOOKUP don't work
Thomas, My /etc/hosts file does have 127.0.0.1 localhost in it. My /etc/host.conf has order hosts,bind in it. Tony -- From: Thomas Baetzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tony Koehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP don't work Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 10:01 AM Tony Koehn wrote: :After getting debian installed I tried to do a nslookup and I get this :message: : :*** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent host.domain :*** Default servers are not available. : :What did I do wrong? See wether there's a line 127.0.0.1 localhost in /etc/hosts. See wether /etc/host.conf has order hosts,bind or order bind,hosts in it. The first one will query /etc/hosts before going to the nameserver configured in /etc/resolv.conf, while the other will do it in the reverse order. Ciao, -- Thomas Baetzler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.fh-karlsruhe.de/~bath0011/Visit my Homepage!/A The cowards never came, and the weaklings died on the way - R.A.H. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Motif v lesstif - was Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 ...
What do you mean? Making Lesstif and Motif binary compatible? You must have OSF source for that :) I know that if someone want to sell Motif, he needs to buy the source from OSF and compile it. And if he wants to use the name Motif to sell their compilation, he needs to pay extra royalties. So, I think: US$ 70,00 is really *much* money for only one or two files. There are many more Motif applications, Debian just doesn't promote them into the distribution due to its non-free nature. I don't want to program with Motif, nor use the Motif Window Manager for X (I use Afterstep) so, why not someone sells only the libraries? Or even best: why Linux users don't join to buy the source, compile these libraries, and distribute them for free? $40,000 was the cost of the Motif source license ... Alex Y. Maybe I'm crazy, but who knows? It's an idea... ;-) []'s Alexander Gieg =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By: Alexander Gieg E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222/ IRC: AlexG =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There will be a time in which *all* the computers in the Earth will be using Linux! Amen! -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 | Alexander Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Enlightment packaging
Amos Shapira wrote: Hi, I though I saw that someone was packaging the Enlightment window manager (http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2154962/enlightenment, US mirror at http://www.kickit.org/enlightenment/), but I can't find it in hamm's Packages list. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England. ISRAEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous (as I heard it...) Enlightenment has a license that prevents it's migration to certain operating systems, which is a restriction on derived works, which makes it not free software. It could be packaged into non-free however, as I understand it. This would discourage people from doing the packaging, however, there may still be someone doing it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GNU--1.3---Linux--2.0.30--- $ sync sync: error, already sinking -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Enlightment packaging
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: Hi, I though I saw that someone was packaging the Enlightment window manager (http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2154962/enlightenment, US mirror at http://www.kickit.org/enlightenment/), but I can't find it in hamm's Packages list. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England. ISRAEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous (as I heard it...) Enlightenment has a license that prevents it's migration to certain operating systems, which is a restriction on derived works, which makes it not free software. It could be packaged into non-free however, as I understand it. This would discourage people from doing the packaging, however, there may still be someone doing it. Actually, the part of the license which restricts it's use on Win95, might not be valid w/ the GPL. In talking with one of the people with Cygnus, the reason they couldn't release the GNU-WIN stuff under the LGPL for most people and everyone else could use the GPL, is because the [L]GPL doesn't allow you to modify it. So who knows, that might mean that it's under the GPL only. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xdm login
Hello, When logging into X using xdm, after I enter my login name and password, I get a big white box in the upper left hand corner of the screen with a message that boot is still in progress. I depress the OK button in this box , it goes away and all works fine in X. This is kind of a pain to do on each login. The box is there whether xbanner is installed or uninstalled. It never used to be there but now it is and I've tried various purging and reinstalling of the main x packages with no luck. What must one do to get rid of this box? Thanks, Victor -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NSLOOKUP don't work
Thomas, My /etc/hosts file does have 127.0.0.1 localhost in it. My /etc/host.conf has order hosts,bind in it. Tony Tony, do you have a nameserver line in /etc/resolv.conf? It must be in the form: nameserver 122.122.122.122 Of course, you would have to substitute 122.122.122.122 for the address of your nameserver (127.0.0.1 if you are running it on your machine). Alex Y. -- From: Thomas Baetzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tony Koehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP don't work Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 10:01 AM Tony Koehn wrote: :After getting debian installed I tried to do a nslookup and I get this :message: : :*** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent host.domain :*** Default servers are not available. : :What did I do wrong? See wether there's a line 127.0.0.1 localhost in /etc/hosts. See wether /etc/host.conf has order hosts,bind or order bind,hosts in it. The first one will query /etc/hosts before going to the nameserver configured in /etc/resolv.conf, while the other will do it in the reverse order. Ciao, -- Thomas Baetzler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.fh-karlsruhe.de/~bath0011/Visit my Homepage!/A The cowards never came, and the weaklings died on the way - R.A.H. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 | Alexander Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
