Re: what is the best pop3d?
Where do you find the virtual pop3d? Curtis On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Jacques Gelinas wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Paul Miller wrote: What is the best pop3d? I've heard that qpopper can corrupt mail files under even lightly loaded systems. I know that the standard POP-3 daemon (from BSD, used by slackware) is not creating any session lock. So it is possible for a user to have to pop3d session at once and this result in corrupt folder (in fact, often the mail get duplicated). The problem is that sometime, user try to get their email and for different reason are not patient enough and try again. So mail program then close the current POP session and start a new one. The original pop3d take some time to close the connexion when it does some cleanup on the incoming folder. This is enough time a new pop3d to start on the same folder. Given there is not lock, some corruption exist. The virtual pop3d daemon (create with the original BSD pop3d daemon from slackware) has a session lock to prevent this problem and may be used as a replacement for standard pop3d. The lock stuff may be folded back in the original pop3d very easily is someone needs that. Jacques Gelinas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Linuxconf: The ultimate administration system for Linux. see http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf new development: dhcp, disk quota management, virtual email accounts -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Quick Apology and WAVE thanks,
Debians, just a quick apology for sending my question about Wave twice. The first I sent went through my Windows NT mail server at work. The server is usually 90% of the times down, and even local mail arrived 2 days late. My second request went through my Linux provider and it got to it's destination in no time at all. I'd like to also take this opportunity to answer all those that answered my questions regarding WAVE. Thank you again! Leandro+ ___ Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro (LA672) Capital of Nasty Electronic Magazine - ISSN 1482-0471 Editor in Chief - http://www.capnasty.org Work to become, not to acquire -Chinese proverb Send an empty e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe ZimID 46B98555 1993/12/15 0D 6E 96 68 D6 B3 9A 96 20 ED 1F AF 11 46 13 79 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
connecting a BBS to the internet
In the near future, I will be taking over a DOS Telegard BBS running its own 486. My Pentium Linux box is currently serving two modems for PPP and shell dial in. What I would like is to connect the 486 to the Pentium using a null modem cable so that users can call or telnet to the Pentium box, log in with a generic login, and be connected directly to the BBS across the null-modem cable. I have looked at making the 486 itself telnetable, but the solutions are either not ready, or expensive. thanx. matt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
FAT 32
I want to install debian linux on a partition on a hard disk. The hard disk has windows 95 (actually 98) on it. OSR2 release of 95, and 98, allow for formatting windows partitions using FAT 32. It is ok if the Linux cannot read the Fat 32 partitions. Will enabling Fat 32 for any partition make it impossible to Boot Linux if the linux partition comes after the Fat 32 partition? Will Linux jump from the boot partition to the Linux partition without caring what's in between, or will it say I don't know what these screwy partitions are in between the boot parition and me? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Richard G. Roberto wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote: There was a discussion about this recently... So I thought I'd mention this: This is posted on cola; looks neat to me: [snip] The premise is that a run level is _clearly defined_ and managed according to a schema. Debian just shotguns links in everything that looks like a run control directory under /etc (practically). A real sysr4 rc script should run all K* scripts in a run control directory, then all S* scripts, starting with rc1.d, incrementally up to the defined run level. This means that having stuff in rc1.d and rc2.d is totally redundant. Likewise for rc2.d and rc3.d, etc. After the defined default run level is achieved, changing run levels occurs by simply running the K* scripts in the new run level, then the S* scripts. So excuse me if I have got this wrong, but does that mean going from run level 2 to run level 7 requires running all K* then S* in run level 3, then all K* then S* in run level 4, then all K* then S* in run level 5, ... all the way up to run level 7? And going from run level 4 down to 2 does the same in reverse? Doesn't this mean that with something that has an S* in runlevel 3,5,7 and a K* in 2,4,6, that it will be started, stopped, started, stopped... all the way through? What about going through a runlevel 5 which is for power down? What I thought would be more sensible is to know what needs to be running at each runlevel, and when you change runlevels, do a diff on the two runlevels, kill everything in the first but not in the second, and start everything in the second not in the first. This allows you to transition faster between arbitary runlevels, and avoids transitioning through runlevels you don't want to touch on the way. This sort of scheme can be implemented in a variety of ways, including config files, or S* symlinks in rcn.d directorys (no need for K* anymore). I don't want to introduce yet another way of doing it, but it just seems to make more sense to me. [snip] The issue arose when package maintainers had to classify their packages as to falling into one of the categories described. Some client process are dependant on server processes, etc. These would need to be sorted out. Obviously any local services required to make a machine fit the description multi-user network client would need to be started by the end of run level 2. There were a couple of other gripes, but I don't remember what they were. why not just have the postinst script ask the user what runlevels do you want this package to run at? and provide sensible defaults. That frees the package maintainer from deciding what to clasify the package as, and allows the user to have his own customized runlevels. [snip] As for x86 vendors having a pow wow over how we should standardize differently than real unix systems do it, what's the point of this? This is precisely why industry leaders get annoyed with us. Would it really be so awful to just adopt the standards of current commercial practice? And no, SCO doesn't count. Industry leaders currently means Solaris, HP(Hitachi)/UX, AIX, Irix, and maybe DU. I agree that an x86 only view of the world is stupid. hardware platforms are becoming more meaningless all the time. However, I do belive that it is worth thinking of free standards independantly of comercial standards. Sure we can adopt the commercial standards if they are good enough and we are free to do so, but if they suck we should go ahead and make our own. The free software community is large enough now that we can make our own standards, and even sometimes make the comercial world follow us. This is becoming even more important now that the comercial guys are making open standards in a way that ensures they have a technical edge and is hard for the competition to implement. ABO -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
I agree that an x86 only view of the world is stupid. hardware platforms are becoming more meaningless all the time. However, I do belive that it is worth thinking of free standards independantly of comercial standards. Sure we can adopt the commercial standards if they are good enough and we are free to do so, but if they suck we should go ahead and make our own. The free software community is large enough now that we can make our own standards, and even sometimes make the comercial world follow us. I'd like to second this. Standards are definitely worth having. But not when they consist of inferior technology handed down to us from commercially-dominated organizations in which we have no representation. The nice thing about standards is that you can pick and choose which ones you are going to support. (I have no opinion on the /etc/init.d stuff though) Cheers, - Jim pgpOu2IS76psH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: procmail -- 'or'
no, no, no... I have the ^X-Mailing-List command for the Debian list. I need it for the linux net and admin lists...since they aren't in the same format as the debian list (the format which works with ^X-Mailing-List) -Paul On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Aug 12, Paul Miller wrote: The Linux-Net/Admin mailing lists aren't in the same format as the Debian list.. (they don't use the Resent- lines) Anyhow, without setting up multiple filters, how can I have procmail look through the to:, from:, and cc: fields..? If I understand you correct, you want to filter debian mail via .procmailrc (why should you otherwise mail to deian-user :)? Look at this: :0: * ^X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org* debian.user Tnak you, Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: samba/wins
I found out what was wrong.. it didn't like the hostname I gave it -- invalid.. so I changed it and everything works.. -Paul On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Michael Stone wrote: Quoting Paul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): For some reason or another samba stopped working.. it no longer creates the server.dat and wins.dat in the /var/lock/samba directory. Instead it contains a file called SHARE_MEM_FILE and SHARE_MEM_FILE.processes. Hmm. Those are the files that control file locking. They should be there. What do you mean by 'it stopped working?' I.e., can you connect with smbclient, or is this only a problem with browsing. Do you get any error message? Have you tried running testparm to see if your config files are corrupted? Did you kill the smbd and nmbd after you changed the names? Also, I thought that the shared memory stuff was introduced with the .17alphas (I'm going from memory, so that may not be right.) If that's the case, and you think you are running .16p11, you might see if you have a version conflict. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI PGP: key 1024/76556F95 from mit keyserver, [EMAIL PROTECTED]finger, or email with Subject: get pgp key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail 1.01 package
I just installed the package and it works even worst then the one I compiled. If I send a message to another local user, it doesn't make it... in fact, it doesn't even get into the alias/Mailbox file. -Paul On 13 Aug 1997, Larry Riedel wrote: Is there a qmail 1.01 package? I couldn't find one in any of the contrib/non-free/stable/unsable directories. I found one in project/experimental and it works great. Larry (sorry if this has already been answered - I read this list through a mail-news gateway with a high latency) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail 1.01 package
Paul Miller wrote: I just installed the package and it works even worst then the one I compiled. If I send a message to another local user, it doesn't make it... in fact, it doesn't even get into the alias/Mailbox file. It works just fine on two of my machines. Something must be botched in your configuration... The binaries are OK. Jeff -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Status on Pentium Optimized gcc?
What is the status of pgcc? Is it usable yet? Any success or failure stories?? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: restarting daemons
On Aug 12, 1997, at 23:33, George Bonser wrote: A quick and dirty that I sometimes use: killall -HUP inetd Which stops and restarts inetd causing it to re-read the inetd.conf file. Just to make things clear, kill doesn't stop anything; it's purpose in life is to send a given signal to a given process. When you do a killall -HUP inetd you are sending a SIGHUP signal to all processes whose name matches inetd. The inetd we all know, inetd(8), reacts to a SIGHUP by rereading its configuration file, /etc/inetd.conf. The name for the kill system call is a misnomer from old times. Also, if no signal is specified, kill sends a SIGTERM signal to the process(es), whose default action is to (surprise) terminate the process; that explains (in part) the name kill. -- Gonzalo A. Diethelm G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Laptop for Linux Debian
Hello guys! If one were to buy a laptop these days what would be a good brand that is widely supported by Linux (Debian)? Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: what is the best pop3d?
On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Curtis' test dude wrote: Where do you find the virtual pop3d? vpop3d is part of the linuxconf distribution (see my signature). While vpop3d maybe used as a replacement for normal pop3d, using its virtual ability require some other utilities, including vdeliver and to make it simple, linuxconf to let you manage all this easily. Jacques Gelinas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Linuxconf: The ultimate administration system for Linux. see http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf new development: dhcp, disk quota management, virtual email accounts -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses problem?
Erik Andersen writes: I have found that with the newest rxvt (released within the last week I believe) it also messes up mutt, sets TERM to rxvt (which seems to break a few things that don't know about TERM=rxvt, and also messes up the screen for the kernel's menuconfig. Oh, and backspace no longer does a ^H for some reason. I had no problems with rxvt until I installed the new ncurses-base package. This obviously has a different rxvt terminfo file cause it doesn't display properly. Ncftp is a good test TERM=rxvt and it's all messed up. TERM=vt100 it's fine. Install the old ncurses-base package and it's fine with TERM=rxvt. excuse my horribly formated email, typing over a very slow link. Andrew -- Dehydration - 34%, Recollection of previous evening - 2%, embarrassment factor - 91%. Advise repair schedule:- off line for 36 hours, re-boot startup disk, and replace head - wow, what a night! -- Kryten in Red Dwarf `The Last Day' Andrew Howell Perth, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses problem?
Erik Andersen writes: I have found that with the newest rxvt (released within the last week I believe) it also messes up mutt, sets TERM to rxvt (which seems to break a few things that don't know about TERM=rxvt, and also messes up the screen for the kernel's menuconfig. Oh, and backspace no longer does a ^H for some reason. I had no problems with rxvt until I installed the new ncurses-base package. This obviously has a different rxvt terminfo file cause it doesn't display properly. Ncftp is a good test TERM=rxvt and it's all messed up. TERM=vt100 it's fine. Install the old ncurses-base package and it's fine with TERM=rxvt. excuse my horribly formated email, typing over a very slow link. Andrew -- Dehydration - 34%, Recollection of previous evening - 2%, embarrassment factor - 91%. Advise repair schedule:- off line for 36 hours, re-boot startup disk, and replace head - wow, what a night! -- Kryten in Red Dwarf `The Last Day' Andrew Howell Perth, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
chat problem
I had ppp and chat working under my last distribution (slackware) but I have a hitch going here that I can't seem to resolve. I am thinking it might have something to with the script arrangement Debian uses, which is a little different. Here is my /etc/ppp.chatscript: ABORTBUSY ABORTNO CARRIER ABORTVOICE ABORTNO DIALTONE ATDT4740771 CONNECT '' sername fsblk word 'fsblk!' UAF-DU-02c ppp When I watch the progress of the script (with minicom) it hangs after CONNECT. I have tried responding with '\n' and '\r'. The script did not come with the CONNECT line but it didn't work then either. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I like six eggs when starting on a journey. Fried - not poached. And mind you don't break 'em. I won't eat a broken egg. -- Thorin Oakenshield -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail 1.01 package
Hello guys! Is there a qmail 1.01 package? I couldn't find one in any of the contrib/non-free/stable/unsable directories. I found one in project/experimental and it works great. I'd love to try qmail! I have a large mailing list running and the ability to send many (200,000+) messages a day sure interests me! I am currently evaluating LSMTP and I must say it works really well, but it also costs a fair bit! How does qmail compare? I am sure it is quite fast too... :) Please let me know the URL where I can download debian qmail package. I did not find experimental in the normal FTP servers I access to. Thank you in advance! Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail 1.01 package
Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry Riedel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a qmail 1.01 package? I couldn't find one in any of the contrib/non-free/stable/unsable directories. I found one in project/experimental and it works great. I just installed the package and it works even worst then the one I compiled. If I send a message to another local user, it doesn't make it... in fact, it doesn't even get into the alias/Mailbox file. When comparing qmail from the .deb file to what I had using the standard .tar.gz distribution, I found it worked as advertised in both cases. I don't know if the installation script asks the right questions to set up a working system. I think qmail provides a lot of power for relatively little complexity, but there is some complexity. I configured it per the documentation after installing it, so maybe it does not work intuitively right out of the .deb file. Larry -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with exim and fetchmail.
Victor Torrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the interim, using fetchmail and exim, I still can only get my incoming mail to go into the /var/spool/exim/input directory. How do I get the mail in this directory out to use it in exmh? What steps must I follow? I'm brain frazzled as of the moment. Hmm, I have no idea why it's putting your mail there. AFAIK it shouldn't be. All your mail should be going into /var/spool/mail/username. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Laptop for Linux Debian
David M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If one were to buy a laptop these days what would be a good brand that is widely supported by Linux (Debian)? We have had good luck here with Dells and Compaqs. They both took some tinkering (especially with the X setups), and we had to buy AcceleratedX for one of the Dells. Best place for you to poke around would be the Linux on Laptops home page. Unfortunately I don't have the pointer handy, but Altavista should be able to find it for you pretty quick. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Hey! ;) How come qmail is already in my passwd and group files???
Hello guys, I am about to install qmail when, voila! Qmail has already the user ids and groups created in /etc/passwd and /etc/group??? I never installed qmail before and it is not a package in dselect... so I assume smartlist or some other package added this in for me??? Also the sh in my current /etc/passwd file is /bin/sh whereas qmails advice is /bin/true. What am I suppose to do? Change it back so that it matches what qmail requires or leave it? And if I leave it how will it affect the other package that installed this in the first place? I think the .deb package for qmail might make things alot easier :) Any tips where I can find the experimental directory??? Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
Hi, Donovan == Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Donovan So excuse me if I have got this wrong, but does that mean Donovan going from run level 2 to run level 7 requires running all K* Donovan then S* in run level 3, then all K* then S* in run level 4, Donovan then all K* then S* in run level 5, ... all the way up to run Donovan level 7? And going from run level 4 down to 2 does the same Donovan in reverse? Donovan Doesn't this mean that with something that has an S* in Donovan runlevel 3,5,7 and a K* in 2,4,6, that it will be started, Donovan stopped, started, stopped... all the way through? What about Donovan going through a runlevel 5 which is for power down? You are hereby excused. *Nothing* has an S* in more than one level. A package is meant to be at a certain run level and higher. A level 3 package is started at run level 3, killed in run level 2, and at *no* other level. See how this works? Donovan why not just have the postinst script ask the user what Donovan runlevels do you want this package to run at? and provide Donovan sensible defaults. That frees the package maintainer from Donovan deciding what to clasify the package as, and allows the user Donovan to have his own customized runlevels. I think that punting this decision on to the user is bad design. Firstly, installing a large number of packages may well overwhelm a novice, secondly, there are ordering requirements between packages (potentialy) that the user may not be aware of, and thirdly, debugging and customer support are going to be a nightmare, with every system different from every other system. There _is_ a way of doing this style of rc right (though it would generate *lots* of debate on debian-devel [yummy]), and I think the devopers *can* get to a consensus on what belongs at each run level -- (we did get to agree on the required, important, optional and extra categories, didn't we?) manoj who would be interested in hearing more about how other unices got rc.? right. -- In Western terms, love is like an extended software Q.A. suite. True love is like a final acceptance test. But one has to be willing to take bug fixes and work-arounds; otherwise, the software is never done. The Usenet Oracle Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape Replacement?
Victor Torrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: super!! XCmail progam (not a debian package). why don't YOU package it for Debian!? ;-) The web browser's the rub. I need to check my usage time periodically from my ISP using a browser. Unfortunately arena and chimera2 both choke on the usage information page (core dumps). Netscape did this OK. what about amaya!? Get the thot package to. Both are in non-free. Bye Christian -- Christian Leutloff, Aachen, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oche.de/~leutloff/ Debian/GNU Linux 1.3.1! Mehr unter http://www.de.debian.org/ pgpnGmMgdsYzf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Qmail ./qmail-config does not work! hard error???
Hello guys, more surprises! ;) Everything compiled ok but when I got to step 7 there is a hard error message when the ./qmail-config script tries to run ./dnsfq hostname. It reports hard error! Have any of you qmail installed on Debian? Did you encounter this problem? If so how to go about fixing it? I am also somewaht confused on the impact of installing a non-package program into the filesystem doing things manually...? Thanks. David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: samba host name
That doesn't seem to make any difference.. ? oops, either i didn't understand your question, or.. well, netbios name allows you to set any netbios name, you wish (the name, which appears in Net Envioument on Windoze.. if you meant something else?) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Laptop for Linux Debian
Hi, Be aware that ftp installation on a laptop is still a problem with Debian. We have Debian installed on three laptops, named and nonamed ones. Its working fine. However, if you do not have a Debian CD, you will have trouble. The installation disks do not allow you to directly enable PCMCIA support. So you have to install additional network and pcmcia packages with the help of another ftp-able machine. To our experience the pcmcia packages is not consistend with the rest of the debian distributuion, so you have to compile it by yourself, meaning you have to install some source packages by yourself. Again, it works but you have to work a lot. We do not understand why the PCMCIA packages is inconsistent with the rest of the distribution. Maybe the maintainers just don't have this configuration: laptop with PCMCIA ethernet cards. We do not want to blame anybody, the whole thing escpecially the PCMCIA package by David Hinds is great work! Just to make clear what the current situation is. Markus Diesmann Neurobiology and Biophysics Albert-Ludwigs-University Freiburg germany -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Apache/Perl segfaults
I'm having great trouble getting the new version of Apache to work (version 1.2.1-4) Apache fails to start. There are two problems: 1. When I run /etc/init.d/apache start, I got complaints from Perl that it couldn't find Apache::Constants (from /usr/lib/perl5/apache.pm, line 4). I got over this by adding 'export PERL5OPT=-I/usr/lib/perl5/Apache' to /etc/init.d/apache. 2. Apache still does not start. When I run 'apache -X', it reports a segmentation fault and core dump. This is the backtrace: #0 0x8090fb1 in perl_parse () #1 0x808ee82 in perl_startup () #2 0x8065b03 in init_modules () #3 0x8061c35 in standalone_main () #4 0x80621b4 in main () Can anyone offer any suggestions, please? -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://lfix.co.uk/oliver Make it idiot-proof, and someone will breed a better idiot. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: samba host name
no.. its working now.. I changed some other things at the same time which screwed up samba.. everything works now. Thanks -Paul On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Fyodor Yarochkin wrote: That doesn't seem to make any difference.. ? oops, either i didn't understand your question, or.. well, netbios name allows you to set any netbios name, you wish (the name, which appears in Net Envioument on Windoze.. if you meant something else?) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail 1.01 package
Qmail web page: www.qmail.org Debian package (FTP): sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/debian/project/experimental/qmail* according to the Qmail web page.. Qmail seems to have just about everything. Its both faster and more secure than sendmail also. Plus it is much easier to configure. In addition to that, it supports a new format of mailboxes that don't currupt. Check out their page! -Paul On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, David M wrote: Hello guys! Is there a qmail 1.01 package? I couldn't find one in any of the contrib/non-free/stable/unsable directories. I found one in project/experimental and it works great. I'd love to try qmail! I have a large mailing list running and the ability to send many (200,000+) messages a day sure interests me! I am currently evaluating LSMTP and I must say it works really well, but it also costs a fair bit! How does qmail compare? I am sure it is quite fast too... :) Please let me know the URL where I can download debian qmail package. I did not find experimental in the normal FTP servers I access to. Thank you in advance! Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Laptop for Linux Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Markus Diesmann wrote: However, if you do not have a Debian CD, you will have trouble. The installation disks do not allow you to directly enable PCMCIA support. Or you could try RedHat, installing over PCMCIA or PLIP is a piece of cake. It even installs over the net from a CD mounted on an NT/Win95 server (which is unable to read the file names on the CD!). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBM/LBf8Uc8bdD9cnfEQI35QCePaWf7XbwHKUKszw3bNRvXYV+2fcAn1iq bXrJ3eSlK3/r4jrnHc2vPGX7 =AdJ1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Mike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Hey! ;) How come qmail is already in my passwd and group files???
I can only answer your last question.. the experimental directory is in the projects directory.. I know its on sunsite.unc.edu if you can't find it elsewhere. -Paul On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, David M wrote: I think the .deb package for qmail might make things alot easier :) Any tips where I can find the experimental directory??? Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
[...] Manoj Srivastava wrote: You are hereby excused. *Nothing* has an S* in more than one level. A package is meant to be at a certain run level and higher. A level 3 package is started at run level 3, killed in run level 2, and at *no* other level. See how this works? There is one thing that I dont see yet. There might be a necessity to introduce parallel routes, e.g. you would want to have a runlevel that starts xdm, and one that starts networking deamons for machines that actually are on a network. But there is no intrinsic order between these things. My machine at home is not connected to any network, which means that certain daemons are not necessary, even if I do want to run X. Other people may want to connect to the network without having to go through a runlevel that starts xdm. Now how is this tackled? Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
open news-server for linux.debian.* list in Germany
Hi, does someone know of a news-server in Germany where one can read the linux.debian.* news hierarchy. Read access is enough, since anyway you have to post through the mailinglist. C. Martin -- Christoph Martin, Uni-Mainz, Germany Internet-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debugging pine sessions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, David Wright wrote: Anyway, since the current Debian pine release (3.96L-3) is source-only and you have to compile it by yourself, you can do whatever changes before compiling. I thought Debian existed partly to avoid all that. That's why most people are using the binary distributions. [ ... ] Perhaps I didn't explain well: pine is now source-only because the license does not allow us to put a .deb package (which is a modified binary) in a FTP server. Yes, Linux distributions exist to avoid all that, but in this case, there is nothing we can do (unless we violate the license, of course). Sorry. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBM/Lr6CqK7IlOjMLFAQEfdgP/QnrgbCCYLr3bNmUghzNeUOpwybFIdLiB 0qQa0B/KEONwndk8WKB7XlYbAB4Glwd4BAwm/X+LbMCQalsTRp/hMKA/cyRoiPbQ qQ7mkayU4h3lj8GBjDTxvZ6/RhCrRhtbvpJ7OXY1a+PeoMF7EZWcnUlbCH8abBRd khOhjSn+jPQ= =drux -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
faxing from Win 95
Sorry if this has been asked before. I want to be able to fax from my Windows 95 desktop, ideally via the default exchange client, but via a print driver would be OK. I currently have my modem on my Linux server running regular mail news transfer and would also like to be able to use a fax service without having to move the modem connection. Is there such a tool ? If so where ? Note: This is my personal system, not my work system. -- -- Alex Monaghan Network Support Analyst, Royal Mail Anglia London Rd, Stevenage, SG1 1AA, UK Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] STD 01438 767081 Postline5811 7081 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
XF86Setup uses good graphic mode but...
Hi all, Recently a friend of mine bought a PC with video card (IGS1682; InteGraphics System ). Though XF86Setup itself is able to recognize this card (i.e. switch into 640x480 or higher(?) ) but I had not proper choice in card selection menu. Therefore during startx session I have no normal graphic resolution (only 320/200 or smth like that) with generic VGA :(. Is there any way in such a situation? Thanks, Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: adduser and NIS
On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: It's unlikely this will be fixed. I've noticed that something has to be a pretty serious bug to be put in 1.3 now. I think (hope) that libc6 uses the more modern /etc/nsswitch.conf rather than putting weird entries into /etc/passwd, group, etc. to dictate the use of NIS, DNS, etc. Looking forward to Hamm and libc6, You still might want to have these weird entries in /etc/passwd for supporting netgroups, for example. The [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], -user, +user entries in /etc/passwd ar IMHO much more flexible than to have only the choice between all or nothing. And you can have this (I assume) with libc6, too, just use passwd: compat group: compat in /etc/nsswitch.conf. At least this does work with the NYS-enable libc. Greetings, Swen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Status on Pentium Optimized gcc?
On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote: What is the status of pgcc? Is it usable yet? Any success or failure stories?? I've been using it on one machine, w/o any real problems. However, I haven't released it really publicly yet, so I doubt many people are using it. :) I'll release it today or tomorrow into unstable. However, it's only for libc6, I could make a libc5 one too, but I don't have the time right now for it. Also, I'm going to orphan it soon, so if anyone wants to claim it, they can have it in a week or 2. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: faxing from Win 95
I want to be able to fax from my Windows 95 desktop, ideally via the default exchange client, but via a print driver would be OK. Yes it would be nice. It's been on my list of things to do for a while :) I currently have my modem on my Linux server running regular mail news transfer and would also like to be able to use a fax service without having to move the modem connection. From what little I've seen and read you should be able to do it with Samba. I believe theres a file in the document directory (somewhere) called something like win-fax which details the basics of this. Adam. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Laptop for Linux Debian
David M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello guys! If one were to buy a laptop these days what would be a good brand that is widely supported by Linux (Debian)? Thank you. Dave I've installed Debian on both a Toshiba Satellite 220CDS, and a Toshiba Tecra 740CDT. The 740CDT has an LCD that will do 1024x768 with XFree86, BTW - it's gorgeous. The 220 CDS will to 800x600, but since it's dual scan, it's not NEARLY as pretty. As someone else mentioned, I had to install off of CD in order to get PCMCIA support, to get network support. But the CD only cost $10, or whatever, so it's not too big of a deal in my mind. Later, Dale -- + finger for pgp public key -+ | Dale E. Martin | University of Cincinnati Savant Research Laboratory | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.ececs.uc.edu/~dmartin | +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Sendmail dsc file?
Nathan == Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nathan Hmm ... I tried a 'dpkg-source -x sendmail*dsc' and got this Nathan message: dpkg-source: error: tarfile Nathan `./sendmail_8.8.7.orig.tar.gz' contains object Nathan (sendmail-8.8.7/FAQ) not in expected directory Nathan (sendmail-8.8.7.orig) As others have doubtless said by now, you need to use the dpkg package from hamm to unpack it. Debian is switching to pristine sources for the next major release -- the original tarball from the author no longer has to be repacked as sendmail-8.8.7.orig just to suit the whims of older dpkgs. Instead only the filename was changed. This means, not coincidentially, that the source code on the Debian site now matches the PGP signature published by the author. - PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] mm mm / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __netgod irc.debian.org mm mm / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m / /__| | | | | |_| |Those who do not understand UNIX mm mm \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ are doomed to repeat it, poorly. GO BLUE -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: faxing from Win 95
On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Adam Shand wrote: I want to be able to fax from my Windows 95 desktop, ideally via the default exchange client, but via a print driver would be OK. From what little I've seen and read you should be able to do it with Samba. I believe theres a file in the document directory (somewhere) called something like win-fax which details the basics of this. There is a freeware or shareware thingy made by a german company that provides a win95 client program ala Microsoft's fax send dialog that is intended to work with a linux samba server. I have downloaded it a while ago, but haven't had the time to actually install and try it, but I sure plan to do so. I can't remember the exact name and url, but if you do a search on altavista for +linux +samba +fax windows95 faxdriver you'll probably find it easily. Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses problem?
Hi, On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Andrew Howell wrote: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 12:00:50 +0759 (WST) From: Andrew Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ncurses problem? Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 04:15:04 + Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; Erik Andersen writes: I have found that with the newest rxvt (released within the last week I believe) it also messes up mutt, sets TERM to rxvt (which seems to break a few things that don't know about TERM=rxvt, and also messes up the screen for the kernel's menuconfig. Oh, and backspace no longer does a ^H for some reason. I had no problems with rxvt until I installed the new ncurses-base package. This obviously has a different rxvt terminfo file cause it doesn't display properly. Ncftp is a good test TERM=rxvt and it's all messed up. TERM=vt100 it's fine. Install the old ncurses-base package and it's fine with TERM=rxvt. excuse my horribly formated email, typing over a very slow link. well, i've put in my .bash* files if [$TERM == 'rxvt']; then TERM=xterm; fi it cures all the problems for me. OK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ppp configuring with dunc
All of that output looks normal. Without more information, I'd say either hte system you're connecting to isn't correctly configured for proxy arp, or you're not using the peer as the default gateway, which you should. This used to be in the default /etc/ppp/options file, but I just noticed that its not in the latest one. You can grep for default in you *.ctn file(s) under ~/.dunc and see if defaultroute is getting set. If not, you can filre up dunc and go to Modify (then select next, OK, bla bla, select your connection) and go to Details. This should give you a bunch of settings to choose from. Choose defaultroute by arrowing down to it and pressing space bar. You may also want to arrow down to proxyarp and mark that as well, although that's only supposed to be for the server or peer side. It won't hurt anything to have it on though. If that doesn't change anything, check with the system administrator of the peer and see if there's a problem on the proxy arp server. By the way, I get the message about Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP also, it doesn't affect my system though. Outside of this, I'm afraid I'm out of ideas. Good luck. -- Until we extend the circle of our compassion to all living things, we will not ourselves find peace -Albert Schweitzer Richard G. Roberto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Donovan Baarda wrote: So excuse me if I have got this wrong, but does that mean going from run level 2 to run level 7 requires running all K* then S* in run level 3, then all K* then S* in run level 4, then all K* then S* in run level 5, . all the way up to run level 7? And going from run level 4 down to 2 does the same in reverse? No. The incremental behavior is only up to the default run level. If there is none defined, you get prompted at startup for a run level and I'm not sure if the system should use the incremental method or jump right to it at that point. Doesn't this mean that with something that has an S* in runlevel 3,5,7 and a K* in 2,4,6, that it will be started, stopped, started, stopped... all the way through? What about going through a runlevel 5 which is for power down? You only have K* scripts if you need to shut a process or server down for proper operation in the new run level (or make sure something's not running). You only have S* scripts for the stuff you need started _for that run level_. Run level 5 isn't implemented as power down yet, but it should be. Obviously if you do an init 5, you should expect to go down. If you set your default run level to 7, you're in for a very short session ;) The 7, 8, 9 run levels are unique to linux AFAIK. They shouldn't be used as defaults for the reason's you point out. What I thought would be more sensible is to know what needs to be running at each runlevel, and when you change runlevels, do a diff on the two runlevels, kill everything in the first but not in the second, and start everything in the second not in the first. This allows you to transition faster between arbitary runlevels, and avoids transitioning through runlevels you don't want to touch on the way. Again, changing run levels after the default has been reached just runs the K* then S* scripts for that run level. We do that part right already. We just don't define the run levels correctly. Until we do, its pointless to consider a functional rc script since the run levels will be identicle. This sort of scheme can be implemented in a variety of ways, including config files, or S* symlinks in rcn.d directorys (no need for K* anymore). I don't want to introduce yet another way of doing it, but it just seems to make more sense to me. Well, if I run something in run level 3 that conflicts with something in run level 4, I need to stop the service in conflict before the run level 4 process tries to start. That's why I can define K* scripts. This works like the diff you mentioned. [snip] The issue arose when package maintainers had to classify their packages as to falling into one of the categories described. Some client process are dependant on server processes, etc. These would need to be sorted out. Obviously any local services required to make a machine fit the description multi-user network client would need to be started by the end of run level 2. There were a couple of other gripes, but I don't remember what they were. why not just have the postinst script ask the user what runlevels do you want this package to run at? and provide sensible defaults. That frees the package maintainer from deciding what to clasify the package as, and allows the user to have his own customized runlevels. Flexibility is always good, and I support having a mechanism to allow users to customize this easily (admintool? package configuration tool?), but there should be functional defaults shipped with the system (for everything IMHO) so that users don't _have_ to muck around with that if they don't want to. [snip] As for x86 vendors having a pow wow over how we should standardize differently than real unix systems do it, what's the point of this? This is precisely why industry leaders get annoyed with us. Would it really be so awful to just adopt the standards of current commercial practice? And no, SCO doesn't count. Industry leaders currently means Solaris, HP(Hitachi)/UX, AIX, Irix, and maybe DU. I agree that an x86 only view of the world is stupid. hardware platforms are becoming more meaningless all the time. However, I do belive that it is worth thinking of free standards independantly of comercial standards. Sure we can adopt the commercial standards if they are good enough and we are free to do so, but if they suck we should go ahead and make our own. The free software community is large enough now that we can make our own standards, and even sometimes make the comercial world follow us. This is becoming even more important now that the comercial guys are making open standards in a way that ensures they have a technical edge and is hard for the competition to implement. This argument is only viable about 4% of the time its used. The rest of the time its just another artificial obstacle to progress. I can remember working for a DEC var a few years ago when
Re: Debugging pine sessions
On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: I could see your point about -DDEBUG not being appropriate for a production program if the resultant output was only useful for debugging Pine. However, the principal use of this information is for debugging pine /sessions/ (and the default debug level can be set accordingly). Again, there must be very few people interested on this. I disagree. The debug feature is a standard Pine behaviour. I was very surprised disappointed when I discovered that I couldn't use the debug option at all (I was having some problem with Pine and the SMTP server (exim), and I would like to check the .pine-debug? files to see what was going on.) Therefore, I think the -DDEBUG flag should be turned on by default. If some user is annoyed with the .pine-debug? files, they can always use the -d 0 option. At least, let the user make the decision instead of eliminating the -d option entirely. Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-Ling[EMAIL PROTECTED] Civil Engineeringhttp://www.ualberta.ca/~foka/ University of Alberta, CanadaKeep smiling! *^_^* -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged...... (fwd)
Anybody can report my same problem? Andrea Arcangeli -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:22:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrea Arcangeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged.. On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, David Fries wrote: Are you logged in at console or with an rxvt in X? I don't have a problem with logging in the console, but it doesn't show up if I'm in a rxvt. I logged in the console, but w works also if I am logged in xterm: arca:~$ w 12:03pm up 5 min, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.07, 0.02 USER TTYLOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT andrea ttyp0 11:59am 0:22 0:00 0:00 -bash andrea ttyp1 12:00pm 2:09 0:00 0:00 -bash andrea ttyp2 12:01pm 0:04 0:00 0:00 pine andrea ttyp3 12:02pm 0:00 0:00 0:00 w arca:~$ last |head -5 andrea ttyp3:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:02 still logged in andrea ttyp2:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:01 still logged in andrea ttyp1:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:00 still logged in andrea ttyp0:0.0 Thu Aug 14 11:59 still logged in reboot system boot Thu Aug 14 11:58 arca:~$ finger No one logged on. I want to know if is a finger problem or is caused by something other. I am sure the problem is caused by login. arca:~# /var/run/utmp arca:~# last -f /var/run/utmp utmp begins Thu Aug 14 16:16:46 1997 arca:~# login arca login: root Password: Linux arca 2.1.49 #2 Tue Aug 12 21:29:09 CEST 1997 i586 unknown Last login: Thu Aug 14 16:03:58 on tty1. No mail. arca:~# last -f /var/run/utmp ~***|*** * **`q * **ISun Apr 7 10:47 still logged in *r *Y**8* `q Thu Jan 1 01:08 still logged in *- *r `q Sat Jan 10 22:43 still logged in ***3 4*@ Thu Jan 1 01:00 - 19:12 (18:12) utmp begins Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 arca:~# Can be a libc problem? xterm login shell return the same problem of login from console. arca:~# ldd /bin/login libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000b000) arca:~# ldd /usr/bin/X11/xterm libXaw.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d/libXaw.so.6 (0x4000b000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x4005e000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4007) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x400b2000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x400bb000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400d) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400db000) libncurses.so.3.0 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 (0x40179000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x401b6000) arca:~$ dpkg -l libc5 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii libc5 5.4.33-5 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr Any suggestions? Andrea Arcangeli -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Laptop for Linux Debian
I use a Sharp 9030 with 1024x768 active matrix screen. No problems running debian and the XFree86 folks helped me get X working - support for the chip set (S3 Aurora) is now included in the standard XFree86 distribution. If I were you and money were an issue I would look for a used/refurbished/overstocked 1024x768 notebook such as my Sharp or an NEC 6030X. Should be able to find one for about $2000 at places such as onsale.com. I use mine as my primary machine now; useful since I have several offices and travel between them. ml -- Michael Laing, President _|_|_|_| _|_| _| _|_|_| Foster Laing Noonan, Inc. _|_|_|_|_|_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 207.832.6372_|_|_|_|_| _| _|_| Internet Software Developers _|_|_|_|_|_| _and Consultants__|_|_|_|_| _| _| _|_|_| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X11 Display permitions
Hi, excuse me if my suggestion underestimates your X11 knowledge, but what is the contents of the environment variable $DISPLAY when you are logged in as root and as a normal user? Could it be, that this variable has no value when logged in as an user, so that your X11-applications fail to connect to the X11-server on your host? If my suspicions apply please set the DISPLAY variable to :0.0 and try again to run the application... Alternatively, you are using Xauthority type of connection authorisation for your server, and in your user's home-directory is a (old) wrong key-file .Xauthority ... hope this hepls, regards, Stoyan On Tue, Aug 05, 1997 at 02:11:11PM +0800, Luka Pravica wrote: Hi, when I'm not logged in as root, I can start X but many programs I try to run give the following error: cannot open display. I can run the same programs as root, without any problems. Probably I have to change permitions for opening Xdisplay, but I couldn't find how. Thanks in advance, Luka -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Dipl.-Inform. Stoyan Kenderov __ __ _ _ email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH\ \/ / (_)_ __ | | __ fax : +49 721 9652 210 Geschaeftsbereich Xlink \ /| | | '_ \| |/ / phone: +49 721 9652 223 Vincenz-Priessnitz-Str. 3 / \| | | | | | RIPE : SK23-RIPE D-76131 Karlsruhe, Germany /_/\_\_|_|_| |_|_|\_\ www-old.xlink.net/~kenderov INTERNET. MIT SICHERHEIT PGP: http://www-old.xlink.net/~kenderov/public.key.asc NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH, Sitz Chemnitz. Kreisgericht Chemnitz/Stadt HRB 4217 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Michael Rotert -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
Manoj Srivastava writes: *Nothing* has an S* in more than one level. A package is meant to be at a certain run level and higher. A level 3 package is started at run level 3, killed in run level 2, and at *no* other level. See how this works? Simple and elegant, but not very flexible. How about a state machine approach? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: chat problem
Britton writes: When I watch the progress of the script (with minicom) it hangs after CONNECT. I have tried responding with '\n' and '\r'. The script did not come with the CONNECT line but it didn't work then either. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Can you log in by hand via minicom? If so, try responding with '\d'. Your system may be just a hair too fast for them. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
sylogd error logging for rlogind
If I try to rlogin into Debian, and the originating machine's IP and hostname cannot be validated to be the same, then rlogin fails. That's a feature, not a problem. In this case, the two machines requesting an rlogin connection are not listed in our DNS, nor do they appear in my /etc/hosts. Trying to rlogin from the misconfigured Sun, I get the error: shcsun8 32 % rlogin mixing Protocol error, mixing.qc.dfo.ca closed connection From Slackware 3.0, I get the error: $ rlogin mixing mixing.qc.dfo.ca: No such file or directory (Now that one is weird!) On the Debian PC hosting the connection, I only get entries like: daemon.log: Aug 14 08:10:42 mixing in.rlogind[9636]: connect from 142.130.48.22 No errors are logged. Shouldn't they be? The problems go away if I put entries for them in /etc/hosts, but it's difficult to clue in on the problem since nothing is logged. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
networking X-windows
Ok, so I have looked everywhere for this answer but can not find it. I have my linux machine running X very well now I want to connect my winnt box to my linux box with X windows but can't figure out how. I have a X-server on my nt box but I don't know how to make the connection. can anyone help? thanks Syd http://syd.onsyd.com/ How do you know you're having fun if there's no one watching you have it. Douglas Adams -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzN3eq0AAAEEAMGqDqrPkUM0PEPT4UBXCVDylEkUabrkqq/yBk1koSqHWlxs 02wVIVl/2B33MuS1aF3XfjvQLH2J6VJTUtyOwH2yglfpyJ68/TaE7od2gT3V99ax a/bENj3x5xnCxQFuKJCBUi4l5CoHEEn8Og6I0IS3vz+nJFkKF0AiZe6TgKrhAAUR tCVTeWQgQWxzb2Jyb29rIDxhbHNvYnJzcEBlbWFpbC51Yy5lZHU+iQCVAwUQM3eI 00AiZe6TgKrhAQHMWAP/W/ZacyMwNrHF0LU3eMyzTbjeFotEws1FmmE2ALjTgVI2 emtsN7vynlZ17p4qPDPlO18G/PTQ2r61kIywmn3bApaTsij5wSXMYv+4VRUvs1wX Ie8gHs6jGZBa3wnutCzaDDW/VPy/atpvLSWTc7Mku1BJzee5whRxxw+QUK2KjD0= =EjnG -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Blocking spam by IP number
On Mon, Aug 11, 1997 at 11:49:00PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: My final version will not simply deny the connections, but will output an SMTP error to them which will cause an immediate mail bounce at their end. I've been using the tcpd banners option, with lines in /etc/hosts.deny that basically look like this: in.smtpd exim: \ [list of bad hosts/networks]: banners /usr/local/lib/tcpd Then in /usr/local/lib/tcpd I have a file named exim (add links as needed creating synonyms for in.smtpd and other sendmail-equivalent services) that contains these two lines: 550-5.7.1 SMTP connection refused from %h 550 5.7.1 Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] from another host for reason The tcpd banners function means that the connection is not simply refused, but instead, the text contained in the file corresponding to the name of the service is transmitted to the client. (The given SMTP error codes are, I believe, the most up-to-date way of indicating administrative prohibition for security reasons; see RFCs 2034, 1893, and 821.) As for lists of known e-mail spam domains, I know of one site containing regularly-updated lists at ftp://ftp.cybernothing.org/pub/abuse/. (It is maintained by J.D. Falk, whois is with CAUCE, the Coalition Against Unsolicited Email.) I think a Debian spam-blocking package, using TCPD and generalized to cover all MTAs, would be a good thing, with a couple of caveats. For one thing, there's a legal issue: if the Debian package contains the actual net blocks and/or domain names to refuse mail from, that could open the Debian project to harrassing lawsuits from spammers. You'd probably want legal advice on this. Probably the package should put the burden of choosing blocked nets/sites on the individual user, maybe by getting addresses to block from a file that the package installer would be required to create (either by hand or maybe with a script that would pull in lists from given URLs--J.D. Falk's site has a couple of scripts like that). DS -- David Sewell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Where the earth is dry, the Dep't of Geosciences, Univ. of Arizona | soul is wisest and best. WWW: http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/~dsew/ | --Heraclitus -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ncurses problem?
Andrew Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Erik Andersen writes: I have found that with the newest rxvt (released within the last week I believe) it also messes up mutt, sets TERM to rxvt (which seems to break a few things that don't know about TERM=rxvt, and also messes up the screen for the kernel's menuconfig. Oh, and backspace no longer does a ^H for some reason. I had no problems with rxvt until I installed the new ncurses-base package. This obviously has a different rxvt terminfo file cause it doesn't display properly. Ncftp is a good test TERM=rxvt and it's all messed up. TERM=vt100 it's fine. Install the old ncurses-base package and it's fine with TERM=rxvt. This is true, and I've been considering reporting it as a bug. The rxvt terminfo entry in the old ncurses-base package was very similar to xterm-color's entry. It added mouse support and some stuff necessary to handle the Home/End keys. The new ncurses-base package does not have an xterm-color entry and its rxvt entry is very different from its xterm entry (which to me is somewhat strange, since rxvt is usually described as a smaller replacement for xterm). Versions of rxvt prior to 2.20-5 set the TERM environment variable to xterm-color. (Note that this would cause problems with the new ncurses-base package, which does not have an xterm-color terminfo entry.) Since Debian has an rxvt terminfo entry, this was reported as a bug. After some discussion, I agreed with the author of the report and modified rxvt in version 2.20-5 to set TERM=rxvt on color displays and TERM=xterm on monochrome displays (since there was no monochrome rxvt terminfo entry available). The rxvt terminfo entry should be fixed. I suggest that it should follow the rxvt entry in the old ncurses-base package and be made equivalent to xterm with additional mouse and Home/End support. While we're fixing the terminfo entries, I would also like to suggest that a rxvt-mono entry be created for monochrome displays. It should be equivalent to the new rxvt entry with the color support disabled. I would then modify rxvt to set TERM=rxvt-mono, instead of TERM=xterm which it does now, when running on monochrome displays. Brian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: networking X-windows
What program are you using I'm using two. Omni-x and xwin34. The line that needs to be changed is in the configuration part of the computer that you are trying to connect to. command: /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -sh -ls -display the_system_that_you_are_trying_to connect_from:0 I hope this helps. let know how you makke out. if you need more information please email me. Paul On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Syd Alsobrook wrote: Ok, so I have looked everywhere for this answer but can not find it. I have my linux machine running X very well now I want to connect my winnt box to my linux box with X windows but can't figure out how. I have a X-server on my nt box but I don't know how to make the connection. can anyone help? thanks Syd http://syd.onsyd.com/ How do you know you're having fun if there's no one watching you have it. Douglas Adams -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzN3eq0AAAEEAMGqDqrPkUM0PEPT4UBXCVDylEkUabrkqq/yBk1koSqHWlxs 02wVIVl/2B33MuS1aF3XfjvQLH2J6VJTUtyOwH2yglfpyJ68/TaE7od2gT3V99ax a/bENj3x5xnCxQFuKJCBUi4l5CoHEEn8Og6I0IS3vz+nJFkKF0AiZe6TgKrhAAUR tCVTeWQgQWxzb2Jyb29rIDxhbHNvYnJzcEBlbWFpbC51Yy5lZHU+iQCVAwUQM3eI 00AiZe6TgKrhAQHMWAP/W/ZacyMwNrHF0LU3eMyzTbjeFotEws1FmmE2ALjTgVI2 emtsN7vynlZ17p4qPDPlO18G/PTQ2r61kIywmn3bApaTsij5wSXMYv+4VRUvs1wX Ie8gHs6jGZBa3wnutCzaDDW/VPy/atpvLSWTc7Mku1BJzee5whRxxw+QUK2KjD0= =EjnG -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Virtual Console is garbaged
I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file. Now my console is gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice. Any ideas? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Virtual Console is garbaged
hi, logout and login again Paul On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote: I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file. Now my console is gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice. Any ideas? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Virtual Console is garbaged
You can try reset, tput reset and echo ^V^O. I have had most success with echo ^V^O I Hope this helps. // Heikki Shaleh wrote: I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file. Now my console is gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice. Any ideas? -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * Tampere, Finland -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Virtual Console is garbaged
hi, logout and login again Paul That might not be enough to fix it. If it's still hosed, try running 'reset' this is usually enough to clear-up most situations like this. Note: you may have to type it in blind since you won't be able to see the text as you're typing it. Also, I don't think you can redirect reset's output to another VT...it'd be worth a try, though. On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote: I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file. Now my console is gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice. Any ideas? Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network DesignVoice: (419) 529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:(419) 529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1302 USA -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Virtual Console is garbaged
Try the reset command. I believe the best results are when TERM=linux, but I can't be sure. Brandon On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote: I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file. Now my console is gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice. Any ideas? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Samba problems.
... Allowed connection from dropzone.flf.lu (192.168.1.20) to Linux root nobody logged in as admin user (root privileges) 08/13/97 17:04:50 dropzone (192.168.1.20) connect to service Linux root as user nobody (uid=0,gid=0) (pid 22285) ... dropzone.flf.lu is a winnt machine, and I log on as grewer on it, but when I'm trying to mount the linux machine it logs on as nobody (tried w95 too, same thing). I'm using smbd 1.9.16p11 (old?) -- //Regards, Niklas . Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Phone: +46-707-543009 . Netmail: 2:206/137.12 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/init.d structure [long rant]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manoj Srivastava writes: *Nothing* has an S* in more than one level. A package is meant to be at a certain run level and higher. A level 3 package is started at run level 3, killed in run level 2, and at *no* other level. See how this works? Simple and elegant, but not very flexible. How about a state machine approach? Assuming runlevel is roughly equivalent to state, the above model is a stack of states. A state transition diagram would be a (potentially fully connected) graph of states. (Potentially) what a mess. :) Next question is how to define a state -- 6 basic states is what we have now. If we want more states (finer grain) our graph becomes messier. Also, runlevels _are flexible. Nobody can force me to start networking daemons at RL 2 -- I can bloody well start them from ip-up when I ring my ISP, at whatever runlevel I happen to be then. (In practice I don't care: when I don't need networking daemons, they waste about $0.5 worth of my swap partition. Big deal). If you let user similarly customize the states, you _will end up with a fully connected graph for STD -- definitely a mess. (One program implementing a complex state machine is sendmail, BTW.) Stack is a much simpler structure -- easier to implement, less bugs etc. Besides, it's almost there already. -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au, if you're replying to --- a Usenet posting Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
printing over samba to win95
I'm trying to add an entry to the /etc/printcap file to print on another machine (win95) using samba. I have a HP Deskjet 660C and I want to use Magicfilter's DJ550C filters. Here's the problem: 1) how do I use two filters in the printcap file (dj550c-filter and smbprint) 2) when I print w/ only smbprint, the printer's error light lights up and if I press the retry button it works... -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Virtual Console is garbaged
- - hi, logout and login again - Paul - - On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote: - - I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file. Now my console is - gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. - I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice. Any - ideas? - - logging out and logging back in doesn't necessarily reset the terminal correctly. a better solution would be stay logged in, and then do ctrl-v, ctrl-o, and hit return. --andy -- Andy Kahn ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Phone: 603-884-2557 (DTN: 264-2557) Digital Equipment CorporationFax : 603-881-2257 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ppp configuring with dunc (solved)
Thanks, Richard! Now it works. After few attempts to modify old /root/.ppprc I have noticed that dunc replaced it by the short file with one option (defaultroute) and 2-3 strings as well. Then I just added this option in old (and valid) .ppprc file. Hope this will be fixed later. On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Richard G. Roberto wrote: All of that output looks normal. Without more information, I'd say either hte system you're connecting to isn't correctly configured for proxy arp, or you're not using the peer as the default gateway, which you should. This used to be in the default /etc/ppp/options file, but I just noticed that its not in the latest one. You can grep for default in you *.ctn file(s) under ~/.dunc and see if defaultroute is getting set. If not, you can filre up dunc and go to Modify (then select next, OK, bla bla, select your connection) and go to Details. This should give you a bunch of settings to choose from. Choose defaultroute by arrowing down to it and pressing space bar. You may also want to arrow down to proxyarp and mark that as well, although that's only supposed to be for the server or peer side. It won't hurt anything to have it on though. If that doesn't change anything, check with the system administrator of the peer and see if there's a problem on the proxy arp server. By the way, I get the message about Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP also, it doesn't affect my system though. Outside of this, I'm afraid I'm out of ideas. It was It :) Regards, Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Qmail ./qmail-config does not work! hard error???
David M wrote: Hello guys, more surprises! ;) Everything compiled ok but when I got to step 7 there is a hard error message when the ./qmail-config script tries to run ./dnsfq hostname. It reports hard error! Have any of you qmail installed on Debian? Did you encounter this problem? If so how to go about fixing it? I am also somewaht confused on the impact of installing a non-package program into the filesystem doing things manually...? Well, why not use the *.deb package from project/experimental then? Anyway, IIRC qmail-config tries to create file /var/qmail/control/me that contains eris.dev.null on my box -- use vi and put your fqdn there. (I think it's in the docs actually.) HTH -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au, if you're replying to --- a Usenet posting Avoid reality at all costs. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian Linux on IBM and Compaq servers
We intend to set our Linux up on either an IBM or a COMPAQ server (6000). Would anybody out there have any experience as to the feasability of this project? So far we have noticed that the Debian dist. does not recognize the Mylex SCSI Array controller present in the IBM 320 pc server. (If you know how to solve this problem, please let me know). F J Fortuny Chapur SA de CV -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
faxing from Win95
Here's the URL someone else was trying to remember: http://www.esem.com/esemfax.html It works with mgetty+sendfax. I haven't tried it, but one of these days when I have time I plan to. That's why I had it bookmarked! -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian Linux on IBM and Compaq servers
Franz J Fortuny wrote: We intend to set our Linux up on either an IBM or a COMPAQ server (6000). Here's my summary about how I managed to use Linux on a Compaq Deskpro 6000. BIOS: Nothing in particular except that it forces all PCI devices on IRQ 11. So much for greater performance! Anyway, the default Adaptec 2940U driver (aic7xxx) in 2.0.30 does not do shared IRQs without a tiny patch to aic7xxx.c: - if (request_irq(config-irq, aic7xxx_isr, SA_INTERRUPT | SA_SHIRQ, + if (request_irq(config-irq, aic7xxx_isr, SA_SHIRQ, aic7xxx, NULL)) so my network card wouldn't work until I applied the patch. The following updated driver does use shared IRQs and is more stable: ftp://ftp.pcnet.com/users/eischen/Linux/aic7xxx-2.1.26-Jun1.tgz It compiled fine under 2.0.30. Make sure you read the README file because there is some hand-editing to do. I edited aic7xxx.c to enable tagged queueing with 6 commands per lun for increased SCSI performance: /* Uncomment this for tagged queueing. */ #define AIC7XXX_TAGGED_QUEUEING /* * You can try raising me if tagged queueing is enabled, or lowering * me if you only have 4 SCBs. */ #define AIC7XXX_CMDS_PER_LUN 6 A newer version still of the aic7xxx driver will be included in 2.0.31 (at least it's in the pre-release I'm using). Network: The Compaq uses an onboard network card called the Compaq Integrated NetFlex-3/P. James Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Caldera is writting a driver for it: ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/stuff/tlan-0.29.tar.gz It works great! PD-CD The Compaq came a few months ago with a neat SCSI PD-CD which reads regular CDs and also handles PD rewritable 650 MB cartridges. The SCSI PD device is supported under Linux (enable multiple LUN in the SCSI part of the kernel configuration). Since April or so, Compaq has started to ship Deskpro's with IDE/ATAPI PD-CDs (instead of the SCSI model). Using a stock 2.0.30 kernel, the CD is seen as /dev/hdc but the PD part is ignored (at least the CD works for Linux installation!) The PD device works under a patched 2.0.30 Linux kernel. The ide-scsi stuff used is currently in 2.1.X kernels, but currently 2.1.45 has not support for msdos filesystems which ruled it out for me. Gadi Oxman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the author) managed to get his ide-scsi sources included in 2.0.31, available also in pre-release pre-patch-2.0.31-3 available on www.linuxhq.com E-mail me if you'd rather get the patches to 2.0.30. They may be more stable (I've have problems with pre-patch-2.0.31-3). After applying the patch, recompiling and booting the new kernel, the CD is seen as /dev/sr0 This device did not exist on my machine, so I did this to get it: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV sr0 The PD was seen as a standard SCSI disk (/dev/sdd in my case, since I had 3 oher disks) on another SCSI device. Sound The sound card works with these SoundBlaster settings: # # Sound # CONFIG_SOUND=y # CONFIG_PAS is not set CONFIG_SB=y # CONFIG_ADLIB is not set # CONFIG_GUS is not set # CONFIG_MPU401 is not set # CONFIG_UART6850 is not set # CONFIG_PSS is not set # CONFIG_GUS16 is not set # CONFIG_GUSMAX is not set # CONFIG_MSS is not set # CONFIG_SSCAPE is not set # CONFIG_TRIX is not set # CONFIG_MAD16 is not set # CONFIG_CS4232 is not set # CONFIG_MAUI is not set CONFIG_AUDIO=y CONFIG_MIDI=y CONFIG_YM3812=y SBC_BASE=220 SBC_IRQ=5 SBC_DMA=1 SB_DMA2=5 SB_MPU_BASE=0 SB_MPU_IRQ=-1 DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536 # CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND is not set Keyboard The keyboard has an awfully slow repeat rate. Drives you mad. You can reset it with: kbdrate -r 30 Video The Matrox Millenium card is supported under the new XFree-3.3 using the SVGA server. It's very fast. SCSI and Disk. Uses an Adaptec 2940U, supported under Linux. See below about booting Debian. As for disk, I got the 4.3 GB version. It turns out it's a Seagate Barracuda with a 9 MB/sec transfer rate. Fast enough for me! Installing Debian I'm using Debian 1.3, and had to build a custom boot disk because the probing in the regular install boot disk would somehow touch the Adaptec SCSI controller and reboot the PC. This was actually very easy to do using another Linux machine.The custom kernel is at: ftp://ftp.phys.ocean.dal.ca/users/rhogee/Debian/ -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged...... (fwd)
On Aug 14, Andrea Arcangeli wrote Anybody can report my same problem? Andrea Arcangeli -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:22:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrea Arcangeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged.. On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, David Fries wrote: Are you logged in at console or with an rxvt in X? I don't have a problem with logging in the console, but it doesn't show up if I'm in a rxvt. I logged in the console, but w works also if I am logged in xterm: arca:~$ w 12:03pm up 5 min, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.07, 0.02 USER TTYLOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT andrea ttyp0 11:59am 0:22 0:00 0:00 -bash andrea ttyp1 12:00pm 2:09 0:00 0:00 -bash andrea ttyp2 12:01pm 0:04 0:00 0:00 pine andrea ttyp3 12:02pm 0:00 0:00 0:00 w arca:~$ last |head -5 andrea ttyp3:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:02 still logged in andrea ttyp2:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:01 still logged in andrea ttyp1:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:00 still logged in andrea ttyp0:0.0 Thu Aug 14 11:59 still logged in reboot system boot Thu Aug 14 11:58 arca:~$ finger No one logged on. I want to know if is a finger problem or is caused by something other. I am sure the problem is caused by login. arca:~# /var/run/utmp arca:~# last -f /var/run/utmp utmp begins Thu Aug 14 16:16:46 1997 arca:~# login arca login: root Password: Linux arca 2.1.49 #2 Tue Aug 12 21:29:09 CEST 1997 i586 unknown Last login: Thu Aug 14 16:03:58 on tty1. No mail. arca:~# last -f /var/run/utmp ~***|*** * **`q * **ISun Apr 7 10:47 still logged in *r *Y**8* `q Thu Jan 1 01:08 still logged in *- *r `q Sat Jan 10 22:43 still logged in ***3 4*@ Thu Jan 1 01:00 - 19:12 (18:12) utmp begins Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 arca:~# Can be a libc problem? xterm login shell return the same problem of login from console. arca:~# ldd /bin/login libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000b000) arca:~# ldd /usr/bin/X11/xterm libXaw.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d/libXaw.so.6 (0x4000b000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x4005e000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4007) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x400b2000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x400bb000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400d) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400db000) libncurses.so.3.0 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 (0x40179000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x401b6000) arca:~$ dpkg -l libc5 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii libc5 5.4.33-5 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr Any suggestions? Andrea Arcangeli On my machine: mike:~$ finger No one logged on. mike:~$ finger @localhost [localhost] Username Real name Idletime TTY Remote console location root root 15:09 1 (mike) mschmitz Mike Schmitz 20:00 2 (mike) root root 17:00 3 (mike) dialout dialout0:03 s1 (/usr/sbin/pppd ) Bug or feature? -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: faxing from Win95
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Here's the URL someone else was trying to remember: http://www.esem.com/esemfax.html It works with mgetty+sendfax. I haven't tried it, but one of these days when I have time I plan to. That's why I had it bookmarked! Thanks, Jens. That's the one. However, I found that there is also something called respond, which you can find along with some other nice tools at: http://www.boerde.de/~horstf/ I actually got this url from the samba homepage, where it is listed prominently: http://lake.canberra.edu.au/pub/samba/ Greetings, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Blocking spam by IP number
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, David Sewell wrote: : I think a Debian spam-blocking package, using TCPD and generalized to : cover all MTAs, would be a good thing, with a couple of caveats. That's quite difficult to implement. One of the most important reasons: not all MTA are using tcpserver/inetd/xinetd as their 'parent'. For example ZMailer and Sendmail do create their own serversocket. (Yes I know, both of them have options to make them spawned by inetd). Another reason that you don't want to use (imho) tcpd as a spamfilter: I like to 'filter' messages on more than just the other end's IP-address. I know ZMailer supports additional blocking: - source address (ip) - HELO line - MAIL line - RCPT line - existance of a valid DNS-entry in the several lines This makes the blocking highly configurable - that's what you want to have (imho again :/ ) Remco -- // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
gettyps, uugetty etc?
Hi, Any pointer to info on the tty -vs- cua setup for modems? I just installed Debian in place of Redhat (can I get an amen), and I used to have to have two devices for one modem. ttyS1 for dial-in and cua1 for dialout. For dialout, I need it for PPP which works great, but for UUCP from office to home, the modem refuses to pick up. I set up all the sames stuff for uugetty, uucp and smail. Any pointers to FAQs mailing lists etc will be much appreciated. Thanks Miguel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged...... (fwd)
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Mike Schmitz wrote: On Aug 14, Andrea Arcangeli wrote Anybody can report my same problem? arca:~$ finger No one logged on. mike:~$ finger No one logged on. mike:~$ finger @localhost [localhost] Username Real name Idletime TTY Remote console location root root 15:09 1 (mike) mschmitz Mike Schmitz 20:00 2 (mike) root root 17:00 3 (mike) dialout dialout0:03 s1 (/usr/sbin/pppd ) Bug or feature? Bug. I am running a standard 1.3.1 system (no hamm...or cheese either) Both finger and finger @localhost provide the same, correct, output, listing everyone logged into my system. I suspect that this is a problem with unstable. Can't say exactly what, but downgrading things until it works should help to provide a pointer to the problem. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged...... (fwd)
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Mike Schmitz wrote: mike:~$ finger No one logged on. mike:~$ finger @localhost [localhost] Username Real name Idletime TTY Remote console location root root 15:09 1 (mike) mschmitz Mike Schmitz 20:00 2 (mike) root root 17:00 3 (mike) dialout dialout0:03 s1 (/usr/sbin/pppd ) Bug or feature? My machine mario aguia: ~$ finger LoginName Tty Idle Login Time Office Office Phone marioMario Olimpio de Men *18:08 Aug 14 10:03 Institute 55+ marioMario Olimpio de Men p0 Aug 14 10:03 (:0.0) marioMario Olimpio de Men *p1 Aug 14 15:29 (:0.0) mario aguia: ~$ finger @localhost [localhost] Username Real name Idletime TTY Remote console location marioMario Olimpio de Menezes 8:08 1 (aguia) marioMario Olimpio de Menezes p0 (:0.0) marioMario Olimpio de Menezes p1 (:0.0) mario aguia: ~$ what about? []s, Mario O.de Menezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Nuclear and Energetic Research Institute - IPEN-CNEN/SP BRAZIL | | http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario | There will be a day when every PC on the world will be a host, not a 'MyComputer'! - mom -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Getting a list of spamers (multiple sites) for sendmail or mailagent
Hi,
The following script (which is now a part of the Debian
mailagent package) gets a list of spam domains and email adresses
from a built in list of half-a-dozen or so sites which update this
information, and can format the data so that one may feed sendmail or
mailagent directly to filter spam.
Maybe this can be massaged to cover other MTA's. I think I can
massage it to do lookups and generate IP addresses for tcp wrappers.
In any case, the man page is embedded, try
% pod2man getspam | nroff -man getspam.1
manoj
--
Justice is incidental to law and order. Edgar Hoover
Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/
==
#! /usr/bin/perl
# -*- Mode: Perl -*-
# getspam ---
# Last Modified By : Manoj Srivastava
# Last Modified On : Wed Aug 13 17:44:23 1997
# Last Machine Used: tiamat.datasync.com
# Update Count : 52
# Status : Unknown, Use with caution!
# HISTORY :
# Description :
#
# $Id: getspam,v 1.1 1997/08/13 22:44:47 srivasta Exp $
#
# Copyright (c) 1997
#Randal L. Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com,
# Scott Blachowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED],
#and
# Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED].
#All rights reserved.
#
#This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
#it under the terms of either:
#
#a) the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
#Software Foundation; either version 1, or (at your option) any
#later version, or
#
#b) the Artistic License which comes with this Kit.
#
#This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See either
#the GNU General Public License or the Artistic License for more details.
#
#You should have received a copy of the Artistic License with this
#Kit, in the file named Artistic. If not, I'll be glad to provide one.
#
#You should also have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.
#
require 5.001;
use strict;
use diagnostics;
use Carp;
use Sys::Hostname;
use URI::Escape;
use LWP::Simple;
use Getopt::Long;
package main;
=head1 NAME
getspam - A script to get the latest list of spammers.
=cut
=head1 SYNOPSIS
usage: getspam [options]
where the options are:
=over 2
=item --lists LISTNAME
colon seperated list of indices into hash of URLs, currently this is
one of aol, mindspring, znet, iocom, nancynet, cyberpromo, llv)
=item --output OUTPUT
base prefix for split lists, filename for merged list
=item --help
A short usage message.
=item --[no]split
split lists into individual files - default is on for 'mailagent' and
off for others)
=item --type TYPE_OF_OUTPUT
sendmail or mailagent - default mailagent
=item --[no]verbose
verbose
=back
=cut
=head1 DESCRIPTION
This utility creates a series of lines that look like
=over 2
Z
C/^(([EMAIL PROTECTED])?1floodgate\.com)$/i
C/^(([EMAIL PROTECTED])?205\.254\.167\.57)$/i
=back
which happen to be directly useful in .rules lines that look like this:
=over 2
Z
EltINITIALgt Envelope From Sender Relayed Reply-To: ~/.spamlist {
=over 4
ANNOTATE -d X-merlyn-spam Smells like spam from %1;
REJECT;
};
=back
Alternatively, it can produce files ready for the Bcheck_mail2 macro
in recent Bsendmail versions, so that one may automatically keep
ones spam filter up to date. The default is mailagent format.
This version of the getspam utility has been podified and tweaked by
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED], based entirely on the work of
Scott Blachowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the program structire is mostly
his), which, in turn, was inspired by and based on the script posted
to the Agent users list by Randal L. Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com.
=cut
sub main {
my $ret;
my $lists = 'ALL';
my $spam_base = $ENV{'HOME'}/spamlist;
my $output_type = mailagent;
my $split_lists = 1;
my $verbose = 0;
my $help = 0;
my $MYNAME = '';
($MYNAME = $0) =~ s|.*/||;
my $usage= EOUSAGE;
usage: $MYNAME [options]
where the options are:
--lists LISTNAME
colon separated list of indices into hash of URLs, currently this
is one of aol, mindspring, znet, iocom, nancynet, cyberpromo, llv
--helpThis message.
--output OUTPUT
base prefix for split lists, filename for merged list)
--[no]split
split lists into individual files - default is on for
'mailagent' and off for others
--type
Re: SoundBlaster
On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Geoff R Deasey wrote: Anyone else having a problem with soundblaster 16 on 220,irq 5,dma 1,16bit dma5 I get messages that it is busy. I am using 1.3.1 with kernel 2.0.30. --Jeff Under the directory /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound is a file called Readme.linux. Within this file is info about cat /dev/sndstat and a script that you need to run if the output of cat /dev/sndstat tells you to. Use vi(or you fave editor) to cut out everything but the script, save it, make it executable, and run it. I've been using my soundblaster 16 pnp for ages with the exact config quoted above with great results. There has been a few times I've had to edit the /usr/src/linux/.config file by hand to make it take my irq 5, but it works. I compile my kernel the old fashioned way. :-) Hope this helps...sorry so late on this, but I'm working through ahh. 612 messages at the moment.. Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: gettyps, uugetty etc?
amen. Hi, Any pointer to info on the tty -vs- cua setup for modems? I just installed Debian in place of Redhat (can I get an amen), and I used to have to have two devices for one modem. ttyS1 for dial-in and cua1 for dialout. For dialout, I need it for PPP which works great, but for UUCP from office to home, the modem refuses to pick up. I set up all the sames stuff for uugetty, uucp and smail. Any pointers to FAQs mailing lists etc will be much appreciated. /dev/cua? has been obsoleted. Long ago, it was used for dialout as you'd experienced. Among other things it caused grief for file locking - specifically, how does one make sure that using /dev/ttyS1 prevents another process from using /dev/cua1? For a long time (haven't read the current docs) PPP's documentation specified /dev/cua? as the port to use, even though it didn't work that way - you had to use /dev/ttyS?. The UUCP specific issues I'm not going to be much help on. It's been many moons since I've done UUCP setup - and then it was HDB (aka BNU). Thanks Miguel Chuck PS If this isn't a FAQ, it should be. :) -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network DesignVoice: (419) 529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:(419) 529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1302 USA -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
