Re: Bought a printer !

1997-09-14 Thread Mark W. Blunier


On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Oleg Krivosheev wrote:

 i just got EPSON LQ-800 ($2 on garage sale ;)).
 
 What are right steps to get it working
 under Debian ? Yes, i read HOWTO, i have
 gs installed. Is this ready-to-run package?
 Any specific info i have to know about
 printer (i don't have manual)?

Install the magicfilter program.

Mark W. Blunier



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HELP! what debian package provides 'elf-x11r6lib'??

1997-09-14 Thread Paul Miller
Help! what debian package provides 'elf-x11r6lib'??

For some reason ftp.debian.org doesn't have the unstable directory.. and
dselect decided to uninstall tons of my programs.. :(  .. I changed the
unstable directory in ftp to hamm/hamm .. I still need that package
though.

-Paul


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Re: Emacs dumps core after some major upgrades on system

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

 Emacs dumps core, repeatedly.  I just replaced the xlib6, installing both
 xlib6 and xlib6g in hamm.  Is this possibly the problem?  I have just 
 installed 
 new slang0.99 libraries from hamm, and the newest svgalib1 in hamm.  Also, a
 number of applicatoins that were, mainly dependent upon earlier slang0 libs.
 I also had to reinstall dosemu today, and I installed, then removed wine.  
 
 Out of these, can someone see something that might have interacted w/ emacs?
 Since I lean heavily on emacs, I'll have to back out of a lot of these
 upgrades, hope-fully.
 
 Alan Davis
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This is a question about the unstable distribution - so it really belongs on
debian-devel.  But I'll give a quick summary here.  Followups to debian-devel,
please.

There was a huge thread in debian-devel Re: xlib6g and emacs (and others)
about this.

This is happening because emacs is accidentally being dynamically linked 
against the
new libc6 libraries that came in xlib6g (the old libc5 libraries are shuffled
off to /usr/lib/libc5-compat) as well as libc5.

You can verify this by doing:

fleming:/mirror/debian/hamm$ ldd /usr/bin/emacs
libXaw.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6 (0x4000c000)
libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40044000)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40056000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x4009e000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x400a7000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400bc000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400c8000)
libncurses.so.3.0 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 (0x4016c000)
libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x401a8000)
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x401b1000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4026d000)
ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4030b000)

(my emacs is broken right now too)

Because there were so many libraries to move from libc5 to libc6, we don't
want to have to rename them all to have different names and versions (which
would have been simpler), because then we'd need to make major changes to
the source code for almost every package to link with the new libs.

For some libraries, we do have different .so names (ie. libc.so.5, libc.so.6)
- but for most of the additional libraries, we are just going to keep the
same old .so names, and place the libc6 version of the libs in the standard
locations (/lib, /usr/lib, /usr/X11R6/lib), and place the libc5 versions of
the libs in an alternate location (/usr/lib/libc5-compat).

The new ld.so (the dynamic linker) has been hacked to try to determine whether
or not a program wants to link with the libc5 or libc6 version - and sets up
the links appropriately.  You can see where it thinks the libraries are by
typing the following:  (I've trimmed the results a bit)

# ldconfig -p
258 libs found in cache `/etc/ld.so.cache' (version 1.7.0)
libpng.so.1 (ELF) = /usr/lib/libpng.so.1
libpng.so.0 (ELF) = /usr/lib/libpng.so.0
libpng.so (ELF) = /usr/lib/libpng.so
libndbm.so (ELF-libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libndbm.so
libndbm.so (ELF-libc6) = /usr/lib/libndbm.so
libdl.so.2 (ELF-libc6) = /lib/libdl.so.2
libdl.so.1 (ELF-libc5) = /lib/libdl.so.1
libdl.so (ELF-libc6) = /usr/lib/libdl.so
libdbm.so (ELF-libc5) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libdbm.so
libdbm.so (ELF-libc6) = /usr/lib/libdbm.so
libc.so.6 (ELF-libc6) = /lib/libc.so.6
libc.so.5 (ELF-libc5) = /lib/libc.so.5
libX11.so.6 (ELF-libc6) = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
libX11.so.6 (ELF-libc6) = /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.6
libX11.so.6 (ELF) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6
libX11.so (ELF-libc6) = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so
libX11.so (ELF-libc6) = /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so

So, the ld.so linker uses this info to try to determine what libraries
to link with.  Note that in some cases, it has identified libraries
as either libc5 or libc6.  And in some cases, it doesn't know (because
they are staticly linked?  or haven't bee updated yet?).

For newly compiled binaries that use dynamically linked libs, they
provide enough info for ld.so to make the proper decision.  For older
binaries, ld.so has to guess, and sometimes it makes a mistake. 

I think that's what is happening to emacs (and many other apps).  The
simple fix is to re-compile emacs for libc6, and ld.so will know
what to do.  Of course, we are in a transition state right now, where
it was impossible to compile emacs (and other packages) until the
proper libs were available.

The current libc5 emacs was built with '-rpath /usr/X11R6/lib' in it's
Imakefile causing it to use the libc6-based X libs instead of the 
libc5-based. (don't ask me, I don't understand)  I think fvwm2 had
the same problem, which is why I had to recompile it for it to work
after I upgraded to xlib6g.

Here's some snippets from the thread on debian-devel:

David Engel wrote:
 The quickest way to work around 

Re: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb t

1997-09-14 Thread A. Paul Heely Jr.
   Why did you move to networked 386's? What's running on them?

The system that we use is provided to us by True Value.  
The backroom system is a SCO 3.2V4.2 box.  The registers are 
simple 386's, 4M ram, 10Mb hard drives, simple ethernet cards.
They run some old version of DOS, and a custom written program 
for the interface.  

There where a couple of reasons for getting rid of the 
WYSE terminals.  There were emulation problems
with the terminals, SCO uses an odd ball emulation.  The system
now uses the backroom for transaction processing, credit card
approval, house charge accounts, etc.  while the 386's actually
run the data entry software.  One of the big advantages to this
is if the backroom system should go down for any reasons, each
register contains its own mini database, enough to still ring
transactions.


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Re: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb t

1997-09-14 Thread A. Paul Heely Jr.

   Why did you move to networked 386's? What's running on them? 

The system that we use is provided to us by True Value.  The backroom
system is a SCO 3.2V4.2 box.  There where a couple of reasons for
getting rid of the WYSE terminals.  There were emulation problems
with the terminals, SCO uses an odd ball emulation.  The system 
now uses the backroom for transaction processing, credit card
approval, house charge accounts, etc.  While the 386's actually 
run the data entry software.  One of the big advantages to this 
is if the backroom system should go down for any reasons, each 
register contains its own mini database, enough to still ring 
transactions.

This seems to be getting a little Debian un-specific, so if no 
one else is interested in this why don't we use e-mail, instead
of cluttering the list?

A. Paul



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dpkg

1997-09-14 Thread Tao Lu
Hi:

I try to install X11 from cdrom that is download and recorded from ftp.
When I use dselect to install some packages, some .deb packages are
refused by dpkg. Even I use dpkg -i xlib* to install X11, error message
like:

dpkg-deb: /...directory/xlib6*.. not dbian format

Does anybody have same problem before? Why the .deb that is download can

not be accepted?


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Re: Debian ppp server how-to?

1997-09-14 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there any how-to to setup an ppp server under Debian?
 
 I need detailled information becouse I'm newie :-) and I want set up
 one ppp server at my home.

Do you have the doc-linux package installed?  Look at

file:/usr/doc/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO.gz 

in this case (using zless or by clicking the URL).

If you want to use ISDN you should also consult

file:/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/PPP-over-ISDN.gz

You can find the doc-linux package in the doc section of your Debian
distribution.

Torsten

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Re: floppy

1997-09-14 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Tao Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi:
 
 What's the command to mount floppy driver and how to access the
 floppy?

First create a directory /floppy

Then execute 

   mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy # msdos formatted

or

   mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy  # win95 formatted

Use fd1 for your second floppy disk.

If you get error messages about vfat or msdos unknown you need to
check your kernel configuration.

If you add a line similiar like

/dev/fd0  /floppy vfat  noauto,user,gid=25,umask=0020   0

to your /etc/fstab you can mount floppies using

mount /floppy

The group 25 is floppy and is used to let normal users (members of
floppy) access the floppy read/write.

Torsten

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unclobbered X

1997-09-14 Thread Rick Hawkins

I think it's a hardware problem.  attempting xfishtank repeatably causes the 
problem again.

SHutting off power and restarting solves it.  Rebooting alone does not.  

I'm just hoping this system stays in one piece long enough for the shuttle 603 
to actually be availalbe for purchase . . . on a warm boot there is now always 
an hdd controller error, which requires a second warm boot; the video card 
comes up in mono half the time (though X sends it to color); we've had a 
warning about the battery from the bios--but it's a nicad soldered to the 
mother board; there's the ongoing trouble attempting to tget it to use a scsi 
controller . . . :(



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Cursor problem

1997-09-14 Thread Berni Ernst

Hi there,

is there a chance to force the cursor ? I installed debian 1.2 on
an older portable computer with LC EGA display (which is maybe a little
bit incompatible). 
During booting the cursor is there but is away as soon as the
computers bios messages are shown. 
Then everythings is fine except the cursor which is NOT THERE.
 I tried to play a little with setfont, which gave me a very small cursor 
but cuts a part of the screen.

Any hint how I can force the cursor ? A big block cursor like on SUN machines
would be great.

thx  bye

berni

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Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-14 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi
 
 Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
 control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
 
 I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
 lose control on all aplications that I'm using?

Some application (especially Motif-ones) sometimes grab all mouse and
keyboard event (e.g. when you select a submenu).  If the application
(or the widget library) forgets to correctly release the grab you will
be unable to do anything with X-Window System, including switching to
other terminals using ctrl-alt-fx and zapping X11 using ctrl-alt-bs.

The only solution is a terminal attached to your computer, some people
use their calculators (the better TI and HP ones) for this purpose.
You can also use another computer in a local network to remote login
into your machine.

Torsten

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Where do I get libmpeg?

1997-09-14 Thread jim
I loaded up the new ImageMagick and it requires libmpeg.so.1 which I
don't have and which the packages in
stable don't seem to have either.  Anyone know where I can get this
beast?


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Smail /etc/aliases

1997-09-14 Thread Matthew Tebbens

Anyone know if I can have ALL mail forwarded somewhere else, like this ?:

Matthew

---
# This is the aliases file - it says who gets mail for whom.
# It was originally generated by `smailconfig', part of the Smail package
# distributed with Debian, but it may edited by the mail systemadministrator.
# It was originally generated by smailconfig at Wed May 14 12:28:43 EDT1997
# Please modify the above line, if you change this file by hand.
# See smailconf(5) for details of the things that can be configured here.

# postmaster: root
# root: matthew

*: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Debian and win95

1997-09-14 Thread dpk
 Hello Sorry for the waste of BW... but I need some advice.  I need to
 install winblows95 (cringe) again..  I would like to install it on my
 second HD... hdc1 While keeping Debian on my main HD...hda2 swap is hda1
 and to use lilo to switch between the two... with Debian being the main
 OS I thought I was finished with 95, but my wife needs to use win95... 
 The question when I get around to installing win95... what will happen
 to the mbr on the hda should I disconnect the drive and then install
 win95 ?  I guess the question is how do I go about this process without
 trashing Debian which is my main OS..  Any and All Help is very
 Welcome!

If you keep a resque floppy handy, you should have to worry about much.
You can keep both harddrives in and install win95.  Yes, this will wipe
the mbr to only boot win95, but with a resque disk you can restore lilo
(at the prompt type resque root=/dev/hda1 I believe) to boot both OS's.

Dennis
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Debian and win95

1997-09-14 Thread Peter . Yarych . yarych
Hello
Sorry for the waste of BW... but I need some advice.
I need to install winblows95 (cringe) again..
I would like to install it on my second HD... hdc1
While keeping Debian on my main HD...hda2 swap is hda1
and to use lilo to switch between the two... with Debian being the main OS 
I thought I was finished with 95, but my wife needs to use win95...
The question when I get around to installing win95... what will happen to the
mbr on the hda
should I disconnect the drive and then install win95 ?
I guess the question is how do I go about this process without trashing Debian
which is my main OS..
Any and All Help is very Welcome!!

Peter..

Debian.. Nothing else need be said !
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Re: Using the X with ATI Pro Turbo

1997-09-14 Thread Alex Romosan
i think i am using exactly the same configuration as you, i.e. an ATI
Graphics Pro Turbo with a 21 ViewSonic P810 monitor. right now i am
running 1600x1200 at 16bpp with no problems. i am using the mach64
driver. this is my XF86Config file:

# XF86Config auto-generated by XF86Setup
#
# Copyright (c) 1996 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.

#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# See 'man XF86Config' for info on the format of this file

Section Files
   RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
EndSection

Section Keyboard
   ProtocolStandard
   XkbRulesxfree86
   XkbModelpc101
   XkbLayout   us
EndSection

Section Pointer
   ProtocolPS/2
   Device  /dev/psaux
EndSection

Section Monitor
   Identifier  Primary Monitor
   VendorName  Unknown
   ModelName   Unknown
   HorizSync   30-95
   VertRefresh 50-160

   Modeline  1600x1200 202.00 1600 1644 1708 2140 1200 1206 1209 1244
   Modeline  1280x1024 135.00 1280 1300 1404 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064
   Modeline  1152x864  135.00 1152 1172 1300 1488 864 864 876 892
   Modeline  1024x768   85.00 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
   Modeline  800x60050.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
   Modeline  640x48031.50 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521
   Modeline  640x40025.18 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450
EndSection

Section Device
   Identifier  Primary Card
   VendorName  Unknown
   BoardName   ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 1600
#Ramdac ibm_rgb514


EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  Accel
   Device  Primary Card
   Monitor Primary Monitor
   SubSection Display
  Depth8
  Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 
640x480 640x400
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth15
  Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 
640x480 640x400
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth16
  Modes1600x1200 1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 
640x480 640x400
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth24
  Modes1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 
640x400
#  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 640x400
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth32
#  Modes1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 
640x400
  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 640x400
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  Mono
   Device  Primary Card
   Monitor Primary Monitor
   SubSection Display
  Depth1
  Modes1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 
640x400
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  VGA2
   Device  Primary Card
   Monitor Primary Monitor
   SubSection Display
  Depth1
  Modes1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 
640x400
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  VGA16
   Device  Primary Card
   Monitor Primary Monitor
   SubSection Display
  Depth4
  Modes1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 
640x400
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  SVGA
   Device  Primary Card
   Monitor Primary Monitor
   SubSection Display
 

Re: xman problems

1997-09-14 Thread dada
E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:

  
   Hello debians,
  
   I posted this question to the german user list too, no answers.
   I'll try it again here.
   The problem is, that xman doesn't find the X11 and related
   man pages. All the other manpages are displayed correctly.
   The X11R6 man directory is in the MANPATh:
   ~$ manpath
   /usr/local/qt/man:/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/X11R6/man
 
  Three questions:
  - are the manual pages there, i.e., do they actually reside in
/usr/X11R6/man?
  - are the permissions of the files/directory OK?
  - what does `man -d some X man page that isn't there' say?
 
 Maybe I'm too quick.  I should ask first
 - does man find the pages xman doesn't find?
 
 If so, I wouldn't have a clue %)
 
 Eric
 



I have the same problem...mybe an debian bug? (I think RedHat hasn't
this problem).


Please, could someone explain to fix this problem?


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Re: Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread Carey Evans
C.L. Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

   VFS: Cannot open root device 00:00
   Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00
 
 I ran rdev on the kernel for the new root device and updated and
 double-checked the info in the fstab and mtab files and the loadlin boot
 file.  All of that seems exactly correct.

Something is definitely configured wrong.  The root device should
usually be either 03:?? or 08:??.  Either of rdev or loadlin should
set it, although I think loadlin will have the final say.

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dpkg

1997-09-14 Thread Tao Lu
Hi:

I try to install X11 from cdrom that is download and recorded from ftp.
When I use dselect to install some packages, some .deb packages are
refused by dpkg. Even I use dpkg -i xlib* to install X11, error message
like:
dpkg-deb: /...directory/xlib6*.. not dbian format

Does anybody have same problem before? Why the .deb that is download can

not be accepted?
!@
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Re: xdm, xinit and startx problem

1997-09-14 Thread TJM
Rob,
Tried your suggestion to Exec top without success.  There is already a line
to Exec top with several other parameters. However, when using xdm, this
menu choice (to exec top) doesn't work but when using startx or xinit to
start X, this line works perfectly and top runs in the xterm window.

thanks,

tjm
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Help with Bibtex

1997-09-14 Thread Johann Spies
I am for the first time trying out bibtex.

When I am trying to run bibtex on the following file (I deleted
nonrelevant lines) 
---
Moenie dieselfde gebed oor en oor bid nie. \cite[]{Mostert:1992}
\bibliographystyle{harvard}
\bibliography{spies}
---
The following .bbl-file was produced
--
\begin{thebibliography}{1}
\input{babelbst.tex}
\newcommand{\Capitalize}[1]{\uppercase{#1}}
\newcommand{\capitalize}[1]{\expandafter\Capitalize#1}

\harvarditem{Mostert}{1992}{Mostert:1992}
Mostert, B.,  \harvardyearleft 1992\harvardyearright{}.
\newblock \emph{Geestelike Oorlogvoering}.
\newblock Christelike Uitgewersmaatskappy, Vereeniging.

\end{thebibliography}
-
resulting in the error message:
--
ERROR: LaTeX Error: File `babelbst.tex' not found.

--- TeX said ---

---
There is no `babelbst.tex' file on my system.

How can I solve this problem?



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Re: floppy

1997-09-14 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes:
  Hi:
  
  What's the command to mount floppy driver and how to access the floppy?

There are 3 ways to deal with a floppy:

1. As a mounted file system:

mount [-t type] /dev/fd0 /mnt

If the floppy has not got a ext2fs file system on it, you need to tell
it the right type (for example: minix or umsdos)

If you have a floppy without a filesystem on it, you must use mkfs
first.

2. As a raw device:

for example for saving a set of files under directory

tar cf /dev/fd0 directory

or

find directory -print | cpio -oc /dev/fd0

3. If it is a DOS-formatted floppy, use mtools to handle it as you would
in DOS, or mount it (see above) as type msdos.

Floppy drives are addressed as /dev/fd0 or /dev/fd1 (corresponding to
A; and B:).  The driver works out what the floppy characteristics are.
If you want to force a particular set, there are device names
corresponding to each set.  Use `ls /dev/fd*' to list them.

Man pages to check: mount(8), mkfs(8), mtools(1), fd(4).

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floppy

1997-09-14 Thread Tao Lu
Hi:

What's the command to mount floppy driver and how to access the floppy?


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Re: jdk 1.1.2?

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

 
 Where can I find the jdk 1.1.2 packages?
 
  --Zachary

hamm/non-free/binary-i386/devel/jdk1.1-runtime_1.1.3.v1-1.deb
hamm/non-free/binary-i386/devel/jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v1-1.deb
hamm/non-free/binary-all/devel/jdk1.1-docdemo_1.1.3.v1-1.deb

(on your local debian mirror)

They're not in stable yet because they haven't been tested much.

There is a slightly newer version bug-fix version of the Linux JDK out, 
but I haven't had a chance to upload it yet.  My excuse is that I
unexpectedly had to move my server/net-connection last week, and
I'm still straightening out the reverse-domain name mapping/internic
stuff.   (I can't ftp to/from master.debian.org, for example)

Cheers,

 - Jim 



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xdm, xinit and startx problem

1997-09-14 Thread Rob MacWilliams
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  I have my fvwm95..43a running with very few problems.  One of these
 snip

Try something like this:


 Exec   Top   exec xterm -e top

It tells X to fire up an xterm and run top in it.

Later 

Rob


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Re: printing in netscape

1997-09-14 Thread Matthew C. Thompson
  hello, all,
  
  when i try to print from netscape, i get this message in my xconsole:
  
  Sep 12 09:53:40 mattyt lpd[1143]: lp: Daemon filter 'f' terminated (13)
 
 What do you have as print command in the window which pops up in
 Netscape when you try to print?  Just a simple lpr works fine for me.

I had lpr and it still wasn't working.  Turns out I didn't have 'gs'
installed.

*sigh*

All is well now...:)

Thanks for the reply,
matty

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DONE: Re.: Re: Emacs dumps core after some major upgrades on system

1997-09-14 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
Once more.

I actually did the change you indicated (to /usr/bin/emacs), in the
midst of debugging this situation.  It turned out, I think, that the
weird messages were from an editing error I made in editing the config
file, tex-site.el, for auctex, which I had been running for only one
day.  

Now maybe it'll be ok...

I'll go ahead and upgrade those libs.  However, I suspect that with
the new ldso, it's ok anyway.  

Alan


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Re: Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread David
Try booting off a floppy, mounting the two drives/partions as
/mnt/target and /mnt/source
Then use the command
(cd /mnt/source  tar c .)|(cd /mnt/target  tar xvp)

That's how I recently moved my home directories to a bigger disk.
The p on the second tar statement is important because it preserves the
partitions.

I think this came from the HOWTO-TIPS document originally.

david..

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http://www.binary.net.au

On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, C.L. Daugaard wrote:

 I've seen (and kept) posts on how to transfer a system to a new HD. 
 what I'm stumped on is how this is done when /, /usr, and /home are on
 *separate partitions* and I want to keep it that way.  Can anyone tell
 me how this is done?  At this state the find . -mount -depth
 -print|cpio -pdmv /newtempmount method sounds like the most promising,
 but how this is done per partition is a mystery.
 
 My thanks to anyone who can help.
 
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Re: Where is Project.tmpl

1997-09-14 Thread Jason Tseng
I have checked with XFree86 ftp site.

ALL XFree86 releases after 3.2 (3.2A to 3.3.1)
no longer contains Project.tmpl. So I don't suppose
the one included in Debian's latest distribution should.

I'm now trying to reuse the one found in 3.2.
Lets hope it works.

Jason


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dpkg

1997-09-14 Thread Tao Lu
Hi:

I try to install X11 from cdrom that is download and recorded from ftp.
When I use dselect to install some packages, some .deb packages are
refused by dpkg. Even I use dpkg -i xlib* to install X11, error message
like:
dpkg-deb: /...directory/xlib6*.. not dbian format

Does anybody have same problem before? Why the .deb that is download can
not be accepted?


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Re: Can't boot 1.2 or 1.3 rescue floppy.

1997-09-14 Thread Bruce Perens
Tell us what kind of machine it is, and what peripherals it has.

Bruce
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xdm, xinit and startx problem

1997-09-14 Thread TJM
I have my fvwm95..43a running with very few problems.  One of these
problems is indicated by not being able to run programs in the menus.  
For instance, under the utilities menu (left click on the desktop) there is
a  menu item  called 'Running Processes' which is supposed to display 
a list of running processes, by way of the program 'top'.  When this item 
is selected, the xterm window comes up but the message that appears is :

xterm: Can't execvp top
bash#

'top' will not start from this menu item.  However, if I start an xterm
window and start 'top' from the prompt, it runs just fine with no problems
at all.  Also, if I kill the xdm process and restart Xwindows with
'startx' or 'xinit', then the 'Running Processes' (top) item works
normally.  If  Xwindows is started with the 'xdm' command, the 'Running
Processes' item does not work and I still get the 'Can't execvp top'
message.  There is also a problem running Xman from any of the Help or
Manual Pages menu items with a message such as 'Xman warning: 
Something went wrong trying to run the command: cd /usr/man :  
gunzip... {and so on}.

I'm at a loss to find the problem and the scripts make very little sense to
me. Any suggestions?  My installation is all debian with the exception of
the
fvwm95..43a. X 3.3-3 is installed and all the default scripts are in place,
svga server
and the  2.0.27 kernel.

thanks,

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Bought a printer !

1997-09-14 Thread Oleg Krivosheev

Hi, All

i just got EPSON LQ-800 ($2 on garage sale ;)).

What are right steps to get it working
under Debian ? Yes, i read HOWTO, i have
gs installed. Is this ready-to-run package?
Any specific info i have to know about
printer (i don't have manual)?

regards

OK



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Re: kernel 2.0.30 (boot problem)

1997-09-14 Thread David
I'd say you have bad sectors on your harddisk, and it just so happens that
one of those badsectors has wiped out something important. This happened to
me recently. The disk had a three year waranty (seagate) so I returned it
and got a new drive.

It seemed to me that IDE drives are able to recognise their bad sectors and
then avoid writing to them. You can read the man pages for fsck, there is a
process for identifying bad sectors, writing them to a file, and then
feeding the file into mkfs as blocks to avoid. As I said, this didn't seem
necessary with an ide drive. I suppose the really bad thing would be if this
happens to your swap partion.

Solutions? We check your waranty. I have a machine that is running on a disk
with bad sectors. I guess I just know that oneday I may be reinstalling it
at a time not of my choosing.. oh and of course I don't put important data
on it. So if you do keep your drive you may have to repartion and format it,
and start from scratch. Maybe someone else will give you a better solution.

david..

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On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Please, help me with clarifying a boot problem. 
   I have upgraded from Debian 1.2.17 to Debian 1.3.1, and the machine
 will not boot. I have recompiled the kernel 2.0.30 and rebooted the machine
 again. Now it hangs, but then finally boots.
   This is dmesg with a troubled hda disk access:
 
 Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
 Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
 pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fb660
 pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfbb40
 pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfbb70
 Probing PCI hardware.
 Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 66.36 BogoMIPS
 Memory: 14908k/16384k available (600k kernel code, 384k reserved, 492k 
 data)
 Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
 Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
 Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
 Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
 Linux version 2.0.30 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #1 Fri Sep 12 
   11:19:28 MDT 1997
 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
 tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 hda: Maxtor 71626 AP, 1554MB w/128kB Cache, LBA, CHS=789/64/63
 hdb: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5602B, ATAPI CDROM driveide0 at 
   0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
 Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2
 FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
 Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2
 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
 hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=2977219, 
 sector=2771587end_request: I/O 
 error, dev 03:02, sector 2771587
 hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=2977219, 
 sector=2771587end_request: I/O 
 error, dev 03:02, sector 2771587
 hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=2977219, 
 sector=2771587end_request: I/O 
 error, dev 03:02, sector 2771587
 
   P.S. I tried to boot an old kernel 2.0.27 it was giving me error
 messages during a boot : Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual
 address c181e595.. 
   What is wrong?
 Any ideas will be appreciated.
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smail to qmail

1997-09-14 Thread Richard Morin
Hi all,
I seem to recall someone posting a way to switch from smail to qmail.
I've searched deja news without success, and was wondering if anyone could
pass me a clue.

I currently use procmail as my local delivery tool and would like to
remain doing so.  I'm planning to open things up a bit with an ml.org
address so am concerned about relaying and my ability to stop it with
smail.

TIA
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Re: Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread Rob Browning
C.L. Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've seen (and kept) posts on how to transfer a system to a new HD. 
 what I'm stumped on is how this is done when /, /usr, and /home are on
 *separate partitions* and I want to keep it that way.  Can anyone tell
 me how this is done?  At this state the find . -mount -depth
 -print|cpio -pdmv /newtempmount method sounds like the most promising,
 but how this is done per partition is a mystery.
 
 My thanks to anyone who can help.

As root make a dummy directory in /, and mount all your new partitions
under /dummy, so you have

/dev/hdb1  23423   1104811166 50%   /dummy
/dev/hdb2 956015  749859   156765 83%   /dummy/usr
/dev/hdb3 956015  749859   156765 83%   /dummy/home

then do (as root)

  cd /
  cp -a `ls | grep -v proc` dummy

You'll still have to make the proc directory on your new root
partition by hand, but the rest should be exactly the way you want.

Then you just need to modify /dummy/etc/lilo.conf and /dummy/etc/fstab
to reflect the new partition layout, use cfdisk to set the bootable
flag as appropriate, and run lilo -r /dummy.

I think that's it, but this is off the top of my head, so be careful.
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Re: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb t

1997-09-14 Thread RHS Linux User

   On 12 Sep 1997, TENCC01.LEWIS01 wrote:

It probably doesn't work the way you want.  Usually the terminal keyboard 
is
locked until the print is finished.  Making the terminal useful for input 
at the
same time is generally not possible.  It would require a very clever 
terminal
and an extremely clever driver.

jim


... Or just a larger RAM buffer in the printer and hopefully a fast line,
after all I don't think that in a POS system anyone would need to print
large reports at one of the terminals, most likely just a few lines on a
page for each sell or incoming materials. I would choose to connect a
printer to the port _on_the_main_computer for large reports. But it would
be interesting just to know more about that keybord lock during prints.


   Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know how big a problem having the keyboard locked
during printing would actually be.  My part-time job is in a 
hardware store that uses a POS system similar to the one
you are describing.  All of our registers are 386's networked to
a backroom server.  Each register has its own dot matrix printer, 
but while it is actualy printing the keyboard is locked.

This has never been any problem.  While the keyboard is locked we are
waiting for the invoice to print and/or the cash draw is open and we
are making change.  I should note that the invoice only prints 
after the sale is finalized.

Actually the very first version of this POS system used WYSE 
terminal and there pass through printing feature.

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Re: Re[2]: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb t

1997-09-14 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On 12 Sep 1997, TENCC01.LEWIS01 wrote:

 It probably doesn't work the way you want.  Usually the terminal keyboard is
 locked until the print is finished.  Making the terminal useful for input at 
 the
 same time is generally not possible.  It would require a very clever terminal
 and an extremely clever driver.
 
 jim
 

... Or just a larger RAM buffer in the printer and hopefully a fast line,
after all I don't think that in a POS system anyone would need to print
large reports at one of the terminals, most likely just a few lines on a
page for each sell or incoming materials. I would choose to connect a
printer to the port _on_the_main_computer for large reports. But it would
be interesting just to know more about that keybord lock during prints.


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Re: Sound Blaster AWE32 and Sound Blaster AWE 64 Gold

1997-09-14 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
 
  On Tue, Sep 09, 1997 at 01:10:03PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
   If you have a pnp bios, it's handled before linux even boots.
   Otherwise, you'll need to use the isapnptools package.
  
  Hmm, nearly correct. I experienced with pnp bios and SB32pnp, that only
  some sound works. Midi etc. needs isapnptools anyway. :-(
 
 Hmm ... I have a SB16 and midi works fine without isapnptools,  maybe
 that's the difference.

You probably have a waveblaster extension mounted to i/o 330 using the
MPU 401 interface.  The SB 32 has a build-in (non MPU 401 compatible)
Emu8000 waveblaster that need to be initialized to work correctly.

I tried pnp extension for the kernel too and the whole sound card
stoped working.  Now I have the normal kernel with the awe patches
installed and use isapnp to initialize all devices on the sound card.

BTW: The normal SB 16 compatible sound works without any special
 initilization, only the midi part needs extra handling to work
 correctly.

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x clobbered and won't reinstall

1997-09-14 Thread Rick Hawkins

My X has died and won't come back.  I had several windows open, making
lyx, running dselect, and a few windows on an alpha.  Then I attempted
to try xfishtank, and the display froze.  No mouse, no keyboard, no
nothing.

I telnetted to the alpha from another machine, and all of the jobs were
gone, though they still appeared on the linux display.

I telnetted to the linux box, and rebooted.  The display hung when
trying to start xdm, but it could still be reached by telnet.

I've removed  reinstalled xbase, xserver-s3, xlib, and xvga16.  I then
ran XF86Setup (from xvga16), and reconfigured.  It hung starting the
xserver.  

The only way I've found to get the console back is to reboot; simply
killing X, which takes all available cycles (runs at just shy of 100%
endlessly).

Does anyone have any idea how to solve this, short of a complete
reinstall?

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Re: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb t

1997-09-14 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, RHS Linux User wrote:

 I don't know how big a problem having the keyboard locked
 during printing would actually be.  My part-time job is in a 
 hardware store that uses a POS system similar to the one
 you are describing.  All of our registers are 386's networked to
 a backroom server.  Each register has its own dot matrix printer, 
 but while it is actualy printing the keyboard is locked.
 
 This has never been any problem.  While the keyboard is locked we are
 waiting for the invoice to print and/or the cash draw is open and we
 are making change.  I should note that the invoice only prints 
 after the sale is finalized.

Yes I agree, I think that serialized input+print that would require use of
the keyboard while the previous print is still being done is rather unlike
to be the job of a POS terminal... such heavy data entry could require
less frequent print operation, or could probably be designed for not
printing after each keyboard entry, or, last, could send the prints to a
printer connected directly to one of the LPTs on the Linux box. 

 Actually the very first version of this POS system used WYSE 
 terminal and there pass through printing feature.

Why did you move to networked 386's? What's running on them? 


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Re: Where is Project.tmpl

1997-09-14 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 13 Sep 1997, Jason Tseng wrote:

 I have checked with XFree86 ftp site.

I checked the source from the Official CD.

 
 ALL XFree86 releases after 3.2 (3.2A to 3.3.1)
 no longer contains Project.tmpl. So I don't suppose
 the one included in Debian's latest distribution should.
 
My results were the same. This doesn't answer the question of why the
Contents file still thinks this file is in the distribution.

 I'm now trying to reuse the one found in 3.2.
 Lets hope it works.

Luck,

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Xemac Mail (VM)

1997-09-14 Thread Rob MacWilliams
Hi all,

I'm trying to convert from TkMail to Xemacs (VM) for my e-mail.  Emacs has a 
couple
of features that TkMail doesn't. 

Currently I'm running fetchmail - smail - tkmail for the incoming side and 
tkmail - smail for the outgoing side.  All of these programs are up to date 
from
stable and working fine.  I haven't defined any special variables in either 
~/.emacs or ~/.vm.

The problem relates to the headers of outgoing mail, the From: line doesn't
seem to be rewritten as it should be by smail.  I have the line

from_field=From: Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED]

in my /etc/smail/config file, but emacs seems to ignore it.

If there is anybody who could point me to the proper docs or a fix, I would
appreciate it.  Thanks

Later

Rob



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CorelDraw on Linux

1997-09-14 Thread Ferenc Kiraly
Hi!

Has anyone got CorelDraw running on a Debian system?

feri.


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Re: Debian and win95

1997-09-14 Thread Remco Blaakmeer


On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello
 Sorry for the waste of BW... but I need some advice.
 I need to install winblows95 (cringe) again..
 I would like to install it on my second HD... hdc1
 While keeping Debian on my main HD...hda2 swap is hda1
 and to use lilo to switch between the two... with Debian being the main OS 
 I thought I was finished with 95, but my wife needs to use win95...
 The question when I get around to installing win95... what will happen to the
 mbr on the hda
 should I disconnect the drive and then install win95 ?
 I guess the question is how do I go about this process without trashing Debian
 which is my main OS..
 Any and All Help is very Welcome!!

You could install lilo in the boot sector of hda2 instead of the mbr.
Then, if Win95 puts its own mbr on the HD, all you need to do is change
the active partition back to hda2. You can do this with Win95's fdisk.

I doubt, however, that Win95 will let itself be installed on a second hard
drive. You can try it, but I think it needs at least some of the boot
files to be on a FAT partition on the first hard drive.

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1997-09-14 Thread Richard Sevenich
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I think this works:

Have a debian boot floppy - the ususal backup.
Install W95, destroying what lilo has written in the mbr.
Boot with the floppy to start linux; then run lilo.

This assumes that /etc/lilo.conf is proper and that your boot disk is ok, 
of course. Check them first.

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Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-14 Thread dada
Jim Pick wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
  control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
 
  I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
  lose control on all aplications that I'm using?
 
 How do you lose control?


 
 I've had X crash on me quite a few times -- but not regularily.  It's a


yes, it's not regularilybut sometimes when I am using Communicator
(an others application that I don't remember now) I lose control about
all my X-windows applications...estrange, but true.

 pretty big system that is still changing, and there are lots of places
 for bugs to hide.
 
 It's still pretty stable compared to Windows 95 though.

:-)  that's true. When w95 craks I must reset the system. In Linux I
only must restart X-window (I never lose control about consoles).

 
 Cheers,
 


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Re: xman problems

1997-09-14 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
Manuel Sickert wrote:
 
 I posted this question to the german user list too, no answers.
 I'll try it again here.
 The problem is, that xman doesn't find the X11 and related
 man pages. All the other manpages are displayed correctly.
 The X11R6 man directory is in the MANPATh:
 ~$ manpath
 /usr/local/qt/man:/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/X11R6/man

This doesn't mean the man directories are in $MANPATH. The manpath 
manual page states that manpath command will print out a warning if the 
user has MANPATH defined.

However, xman command looks for the MANPATH environment variable to 
find out where to look for manual pages. If no MANPATH is set it will 
default to /usr/man and the X etc. man pages are not shown.

After you do something like
  export MANPATH=`manpath`
xman will find all the manual pages the usual man command finds. A 
better way would probably be to make an alias or shell wrapper for xman

I just tried this alias and it seems to work. It will set MANPATH for 
xman but leave it unset for man and other commands.
  alias xman='(export MANPATH=`manpath`; xman)' 

How I understand this mess is that man(1) is smart and does not need 
MANPATH (it will use it if the user sets it). xman(1x) is not so smart 
and needs MANPATH set or else only /usr/man is seen.

See the relevant man pages man(1), manpath(1) and xman(1) for more details.

I hope this helps.

// Heikki
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Re: Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread C.L. Daugaard
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, C.L. Daugaard wrote:
 
 I've seen (and kept) posts on how to transfer a system to a new HD.
 what I'm stumped on is how this is done when /, /usr, and /home are on
 *separate partitions* and I want to keep it that way.  Can anyone tell
 me how this is done?  At this state the find . -mount -depth
 -print|cpio -pdmv /newtempmount method sounds like the most promising,
 but how this is done per partition is a mystery.
 
 My thanks to anyone who can help.

Following up on my own post:

It's almost there.  My thanks to the two who passed on good advice on
transferring the system directories to new partitions.  Everything looks
very good.  Unfortunately I get a kernel panic on boot, viz.

VFS: Cannot open root device 00:00
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00

I ran rdev on the kernel for the new root device and updated and
double-checked the info in the fstab and mtab files and the loadlin boot
file.  All of that seems exactly correct.

My guess is that 00:00 is a key to It's almost there.  My thanks to
the two who passed on good advice on transferring the system directories
to new partitions.  Everything looks very good.  Unfortunately I get a
kernel panic on boot, viz.

VFS: Cannot open root device 00:00
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00

I ran rdev on the kernel for the new root device and updated and
double-checked the info in the fstab and mtab files and the loadlin boot
file.  All of that seems exactly correct.

My guess is that 00:00 is a key to the problem, but I can't decipher
it.  Can anyone interpret this?

Thanks.

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Setting serial ports

1997-09-14 Thread Carl Flippin
I have some strange IRQ settings for my serial ports. Linux doesn't 
autoprobe properly. I've read in the manual that this can be 
corrected by via setserial. This seems a rather inelegant solution. 
Is there a way similar to the pas16=0x388,20 I use for my CD-ROM 
controller to override the autoprobe in the first place? I've looked 
at the serial-HOWTO and the various documents on the LDP but could 
find no such solution.


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jdk 1.1.2?

1997-09-14 Thread Zachary DeAquila

Where can I find the jdk 1.1.2 packages?

 --Zachary


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Re: smail to qmail

1997-09-14 Thread David
There is a debian package in the experimental section, but it depends on
libc6, and I'm not game to upgrade til I stop seeing posts saying they had
to reinstall an old package to make things work again.

I installed qmail happily. Compiled easily into /var/qmail
I decided to install sendmail and then follow the instructions that came
with the source for replacing sendmail. This works because you avoid the
dselect dependency issues. It thinks sendmail is installed.

I don't know how this will help with procmail. Sendmail is going to ask for
deliver. You could force it, but I feel this kind of messes up your
packaging system, which is one of the reasons I switched to debian in the
first place.

I also d/l the qmail package and looked through it for useful things. It
puts the binaries in different places and uses an init.d script that I don't
understand. Despite this when I have libc6, I'll replace my install with the
package.

david..

Binary Bar - Australia's first free access internet bar/cafe/gallery.
243 Brunswick Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, Australia. 12:00pm - 11:00pm
http://www.binary.net.au

On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Richard Morin wrote:
 I seem to recall someone posting a way to switch from smail to qmail.
 I've searched deja news without success, and was wondering if anyone could
 pass me a clue.
 
 I currently use procmail as my local delivery tool and would like to
 remain doing so.  I'm planning to open things up a bit with an ml.org
 address so am concerned about relaying and my ability to stop it with
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Re: Where is Project.tmpl

1997-09-14 Thread Jason Tseng

 You will find the Contents file in the stable directory on your CD. A
 search of this file is the best way to find out which package contains
 a particular file. Searching for Project.tmpl shows that it is found in
 the x11 section in the package xlib6-dev.
 

Project.tmpl is indeed listed in the Contents file But
it is not found in any of the xlib6-dev packages 
(xlib6-dev_3.3-3.deb,xlib6_3.3-3.deb,xslib.deb in the Official CD 
as well as xlib6-dev_3.3-4_i386.deb in BO-Updates).
I have also tried the source xfree86_3.3xxx.dsc. 

All the other .tmpl, Xt headers etc are found in
the xlib6-dev and xfree86xxx.dsc except for Project.tmpl, 
which leads me to think that, perhaps it has been left out, unknowingly.

Jason



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Can't boot 1.2 or 1.3 rescue floppy.

1997-09-14 Thread R. Chris Ross

I am trying to do a install fresh install of Debian 1.3 but my
machine is locking up with the last message on the screen:

eata_pio: No BIOS32 extensions present.  This driver still depends on it.
Skipping scan for PCI HBAs.

Then it's dead.  I'm wondering if I need to build a new kernel for it.
Would building it a custom kernel mean having to build a rescue disk too.
This is kind of a new one on me.  Haven't really had these problems for
quite a while.

Any help would be appreciated.

Chris




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Re: Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread RHS Linux User
Try cp -ax /source /destination 
The a option copies symbolic links as links, preserves permissions, and 
copies directories recursively.
The x option tells cp to not copy anything on a different file system.

I have always used this method and the only thing I have to do is 
create the directories that act as mount points, they do not get 
copied because of -x.

Hope it helps

A. Paul


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Re: Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread Rob Browning
Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   cp -a `ls | grep -v proc` dummy

Oops, this needs to be

  cp -a `ls | fgrep -v proc | fgrep -v 'lost+found'` dummy

or something similar.
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Transfering system directories to new HD

1997-09-14 Thread C.L. Daugaard
I've seen (and kept) posts on how to transfer a system to a new HD. 
what I'm stumped on is how this is done when /, /usr, and /home are on
*separate partitions* and I want to keep it that way.  Can anyone tell
me how this is done?  At this state the find . -mount -depth
-print|cpio -pdmv /newtempmount method sounds like the most promising,
but how this is done per partition is a mystery.

My thanks to anyone who can help.

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Re: Security issues for nfs mount

1997-09-14 Thread ioannis

 :-)

 In this case you may as well post your root passwd in Yahoo.





On Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 09:02:59PM +0100, G. Kapetanios wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Although I am not familiar at all with the inner workings of nfs 
 the description below indicates a risk that an unauthorised client may
 read files on the specific directory which is being exported by nfs read
 only. However my worry is not whether somebody else will read the files 
 which in my cased is only a piece of software. My worry is whether anybody
 can write to the directory being exported or any other directory of my
 computer , given that the stuff on the exported directory are
 mathematical software unrelated with the workings of the operating system
 .. I would be grateful if someone could clarify this point 
 
Thanks
George 

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kernel 2.0.30 (boot problem)

1997-09-14 Thread omill

Please, help me with clarifying a boot problem. 
I have upgraded from Debian 1.2.17 to Debian 1.3.1, and the machine
will not boot. I have recompiled the kernel 2.0.30 and rebooted the machine
again. Now it hangs, but then finally boots.
This is dmesg with a troubled hda disk access:

Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fb660
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfbb40
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfbb70
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 66.36 BogoMIPS
Memory: 14908k/16384k available (600k kernel code, 384k reserved, 492k 
data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Linux version 2.0.30 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #1 Fri Sep 12 
11:19:28 MDT 1997
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
hda: Maxtor 71626 AP, 1554MB w/128kB Cache, LBA, CHS=789/64/63
hdb: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5602B, ATAPI CDROM driveide0 at 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=2977219, 
sector=2771587end_request: I/O 
error, dev 03:02, sector 2771587
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=2977219, 
sector=2771587end_request: I/O 
error, dev 03:02, sector 2771587
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=2977219, 
sector=2771587end_request: I/O 
error, dev 03:02, sector 2771587

P.S. I tried to boot an old kernel 2.0.27 it was giving me error
messages during a boot : Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual
address c181e595.. 
What is wrong?
Any ideas will be appreciated.  
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Re: Where is Project.tmpl

1997-09-14 Thread Dale Scheetz
You will find the Contents file in the stable directory on your CD. A
search of this file is the best way to find out which package contains
a particular file. Searching for Project.tmpl shows that it is found in
the x11 section in the package xlib6-dev.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: problem compiling kernel with sound

1997-09-14 Thread Shaleh
 #error You will need to configure the sound driver with
 CONFIG_AUDIO option.

I had to manually edit the option file in the kernel directory (Forgot
its real name and am at work right now).  Everytime I tried to specifiy
an IRQ it told me I typed an invalid number -- even the default 7.


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Re: problem compiling kernel with sound

1997-09-14 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes:
  Has anyone had any luck with compiling a kernel on Debian? I can compile
  fine just as long as I don't try to compile with sound. NOTE: I did
  use the make-kpkg -revision custom.1.0 kernel_image option. This is the
  error I get (The same thing happens with 2.0.30 also):
  
  
  gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/include -Wall
  -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
  -m386 -DCPU=386 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include
  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/include/linux/modversions.h  -c -o
  sb_common.o sb_common.c
  sb_common.c:21: #error You will need to configure the sound driver with
  CONFIG_AUDIO option.
  
I suggest that you use `make xconfig' or `make menuconfig' to set up
your kernel configuration.  That should leave the configuration in
a consistent state.

After `make xconfig' do `make depend' and `make clean' before doing
the `make' to compile the source.

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Getting rid of -r /usr/X11R6/lib

1997-09-14 Thread Philippe Troin

[Followups redirected to debian-devel]

Some packages in hamm have been linked with the -r /usr/X11R6/lib 
option and break on a libc6 system with the new libc6 X libraries 
(coredump).

This perl script will patch these programs and make them work:

=== BEGIN SCRIPT
#!/usr/bin/perl -w

# Open file
open IN, $ARGV[0] or die can't find $ARGV[0]: $!;

# Read it in one slurp
select IN;
undef $/;
select STDOUT;
$file=IN;
close IN;

# Remove this string
$count=$file=~s!/usr/X11R6/lib\0!\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0!g;
print Replaced: $count occurences in $ARGV[0]\n;

# Write the file
open OUT, $ARGV[0].out or die can't write $ARGV[0].out: $!;
print OUT $file;
close OUT;
=== END SCRIPT

It's been working with emacs, xpmroot (package fvwm-common), fvwm2.
All these programs now work like a charm (and got bugs assigned :-).

Note: You should get one and only one replacement, otherwise it 
indicates something's gone wrong.

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Re: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb t

1997-09-14 Thread A. Paul Heely Jr.

   :-) I put my hands on some SCO systems at some customers' and I think
   Linux is quite _another_planet_ (and among every distribution Debian, also
   used Yggdrasil, Slackware and RedHat). 

Could not agree more.  I don't think SCO, even Open Server, is in
the same solar system :).

   Yes but a terminal does NOT go down unless broken, while some of those 386
   could go down... ok you may say we have not only one while the main box
   is only one... why should it crash (provided you put a power supply
   backup of course), I mean why more likely than those 386's? Because it
   does that lot of things? Then I would have it just handle the sessions on
   the terminals and the dbase and would connect _another_ box via ethernet
   for the other tasks. What do you think? 

The backroom system has never gone down from a hardware failure.  It has 
crashed/locked up for who knows what reason.  I know that it
should not happen but it can.  The registers also have
been known to lock up, more so than the backroom.  If a register locks 
up there are other registers that can be used while the other is 
being re-booted.  If the backroom system goes down and you are using
just terminals then the whole operation is at a stand still until 
the system comes back up.  You may say, but it only takes 5 minutes 
to do a complete shutdown and reboot, but this is 5 minutes that our
customers have been standing around waiting for us.  To them it seems 
like forever, and does not promote a very professional image.

I think the 386's offer more capabilities than a terminal alone.
Our machines use a bar code reader, a credit card scanner, control
when the cash drawer opens, print to a receipt only printer, and 
print to the invoice printer.  I don't see how you would get this 
much functionality out of just a terminal. 

My main thought in favor of the 386's is that even if the backroom 
goes down, however remote, the operation that the customer sees is 
still functioning. 

   Yes, not wrong (though I see you resent the posting without this note
   :-)), but I collected help from very high quality people here (some big 
   one via private e-mail), and there could be some Debian package I'm not
   aware of, and some of the original questions involved Debian-tested
   hardware. 

Actually I thought I had caught the first one before it went out :)
Agreed then it stays on the list.



   And thanks a lot to you too! 

Your Welcome.

If you are interseted in any of my thoughts on POS systems, features,
capabilites, etc.  send me e-mail.

A. Paul



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problem compiling kernel with sound

1997-09-14 Thread Ricardo Muggli
Has anyone had any luck with compiling a kernel on Debian? I can compile
fine just as long as I don't try to compile with sound. NOTE: I did
use the make-kpkg -revision custom.1.0 kernel_image option. This is the
error I get (The same thing happens with 2.0.30 also):


gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
-m386 -DCPU=386 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/include/linux/modversions.h  -c -o
sb_common.o sb_common.c
sb_common.c:21: #error You will need to configure the sound driver with
CONFIG_AUDIO option.
sb_common.c:266: warning: `sb16_set_mpu_port' defined but not used
make[4]: *** [sb_common.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/drivers/sound'
make[3]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/drivers'
make[2]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29'
make[1]: *** [build] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29'
make: *** [stamp-image] Error 2


Thanks for any help. I've had great responses from this list before and
have learned a LOT from reading all of the other posts. thanks

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Off Topic: BIOS-like sources?

1997-09-14 Thread Dan Hugo
I thought I heard about something like this somewhere, but I'm not sure
where:

Say I want to bring up my own intel-based machine, or I want to do some
embedded stuff, or I just want to learn about intel-based POST, or
whatever, and I don't want to deal with Award or AMI or that bunch (and
I want sources).

Is there a GPL or otherwise-available system BIOS (POST code,
extensions, etc) anywhere out there?

I thought some serious Linux kernel hacker might know the answer to
this, so I post here.

Thanks for any info
-dh


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Re: CorelDraw on Linux

1997-09-14 Thread Ferenc Kiraly
Hi!

  Has anyone got CorelDraw running on a Debian system?
 
 No.  But Caldera sells it (version 3.5) on CD.  It should be possible to 
 install
 it on Debian, I would think.

Yes, I know that ... What I was really wondering is how did (would)
someone go about it. Caldera requires, as far as I know, for you
to have a licence for COL or CND to be able to purchase CorelDraw.
Now, going from Debian to Caldera is out of the question in any case.

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Re: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb t

1997-09-14 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Sat, 13 Sep 1997, A. Paul Heely Jr. wrote:

 
Why did you move to networked 386's? What's running on them? 
 
 The system that we use is provided to us by True Value.  The backroom
 system is a SCO 3.2V4.2 box.  There where a couple of reasons for
 getting rid of the WYSE terminals.  There were emulation problems
 with the terminals, SCO uses an odd ball emulation. 

:-) I put my hands on some SCO systems at some customers' and I think
Linux is quite _another_planet_ (and among every distribution Debian, also
used Yggdrasil, Slackware and RedHat). 
 
 The system 
 now uses the backroom for transaction processing, credit card
 approval, house charge accounts, etc.  While the 386's actually 
 run the data entry software.  One of the big advantages to this 
 is if the backroom system should go down for any reasons, each 
 register contains its own mini database, enough to still ring 
 transactions.

Yes but a terminal does NOT go down unless broken, while some of those 386
could go down... ok you may say we have not only one while the main box
is only one... why should it crash (provided you put a power supply
backup of course), I mean why more likely than those 386's? Because it
does that lot of things? Then I would have it just handle the sessions on
the terminals and the dbase and would connect _another_ box via ethernet
for the other tasks. What do you think? 

 This seems to be getting a little Debian un-specific, so if no 
 one else is interested in this why don't we use e-mail, instead
 of cluttering the list?

Yes, not wrong (though I see you resent the posting without this note
:-)), but I collected help from very high quality people here (some big 
one via private e-mail), and there could be some Debian package I'm not
aware of, and some of the original questions involved Debian-tested
hardware. 


On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

  1) What serial devices allow longer cables than RS232 without use
 of modems (say 10-100-200 meters)?
  2) Are there multi port cards of that kind which run well with
 Debian? Any brandname + model?
  3) What if the text dumb terminals connected to a Linux Box also need
 a printer each (or almost any of them)? Is it possible that
 data is sent to the printer and terminal via the same line?
 Brandname + model?
 
  Thanks to anyone willing to give a clue.


And thanks a lot to you too! 


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Re: Emacs dumps core after some major upgrades on system

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

[ minor correction ]

 Here's what I did (the above script installed as libc5):
   ^
should be sedlibc5

I don't want to confuse anyone.  :-)

Cheers,

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Emacs core dump SOLVED by downgrading to xlib6-3.3-4 in BO.

1997-09-14 Thread adavis
Emacs booted up after I downgraded xlib6-3.3-5 (in hamm) to xlib6-3.3-3 (in
bo).

I didn't have to touch xlib6g.  

I am unfamiliar with the use of strace, but when I tried it, the core dump
occured as a SIGSEGV, right after getting the PID.  

Apparently emacs_19 has to be recompiled for the new libs.  


Alan Davis
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Progress On Debian2.0 ?

1997-09-14 Thread David
Hi,
Can someone give us an update on the progress with Debian 2.0 and the
stable libc6 release please.

I'm always keen to keep an eye on how many people post stuff regarding
problems with libc6. While I'd love to be adventurous, I lack technical
skills to contribute, and better serve our linux community as an advocate,
and example of a business running completely and happily under linux. We
do use wine for some of the financial stuff, but have no dos or mac
machines on site.

P.S. Wine is working much better than it was 6 months ago, for anyone
considering trying it again.

thanks
David..

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243 Brunswick Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, Australia. 12:00pm - 11:00pm
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Re: Progress On Debian2.0 ?

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

 Hi,
 Can someone give us an update on the progress with Debian 2.0 and the
 stable libc6 release please.

It's looking very promising.  Right now is the worst time to try it out
though - since there are quite a few binaries which need to be 
recompiled/patched
to work with libc6 and libc5-compat.  In a few weeks, I think we'll be past
the tough stuff.

I'm not sure what the release schedule is going to be like.

Cheers,

 - Jim






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Re: Xemac Mail (VM)

1997-09-14 Thread Carey Evans
Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 The problem relates to the headers of outgoing mail, the From:
 line doesn't seem to be rewritten as it should be by smail.  I have
 the line
 
 from_field=From: Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 in my /etc/smail/config file, but emacs seems to ignore it.

Probably smail only inserts a From: when the MUA doesn't, and VM puts
its own in.  It's a while since I used VM (I prefer Gnus) but you
could try something like the following in ~/.vm:

(setq user-mail-address [EMAIL PROTECTED])

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kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending cookies. 
kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) 


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Emacs dumps core after some major upgrades on system

1997-09-14 Thread adavis
Emacs dumps core, repeatedly.  I just replaced the xlib6, installing both
xlib6 and xlib6g in hamm.  Is this possibly the problem?  I have just installed 
new slang0.99 libraries from hamm, and the newest svgalib1 in hamm.  Also, a
number of applicatoins that were, mainly dependent upon earlier slang0 libs.
I also had to reinstall dosemu today, and I installed, then removed wine.  

Out of these, can someone see something that might have interacted w/ emacs?
Since I lean heavily on emacs, I'll have to back out of a lot of these
upgrades, hope-fully.

Alan Davis
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Re: procmailrc help

1997-09-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, 13 Sep 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 Here's what I want to do:
 
 1) mail addressed to me goes into the inbox (even from mailing lists)
 2) mailing lists are separated (already working)
 3) remaining messages go into a junk folder
 
 any ideas?

Sure.  This is what I do, except for the junk part, which I've been meaning
to add for a while and just did.  I notice most spam has bogus or useless
To: lines, so that makes filtering that nasty stuff all the easier.

Here's an abbreviated version of my .procmailrc:

--- SNIP ---
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # you'd better make sure it exists
# DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/default # completely optional
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/logfile   # recommended

# Use the Sender: (or Resent-Sender:) line if it exists, b/c that way we
# don't have to worry about messages cc'ed to me personally when I also
# belong to the list

:0:
* ^Sender: JS Bach and other Early and Baroque Music List [EMAIL PROTECTED].*
bach-list

:0:
* ^Resent-Sender: debian-announce-request.*
debian-announce

:0:
* ^Resent-Sender: debian-changes-request.*
debian-changes

:0:
* ^Resent-Sender: debian-devel-request.*
debian-devel

:0:
* ^Resent-Sender: debian-user-request.*
debian-user

# NASANews only comes from one address, so this is easy
:0:
* ^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nasanews

:0:
* !^To: .*branden.*
junk
--- SNIP ---

Explanation: since I use the recommended .forward:

|IFS=' '  exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #branden

Anything not processed by the .procmailrc stays in the inbox.  This is what
we want.  All the mailing list stuff is sorted out -- if you want for
some reason to collapse all your mailing lists into one box, I think you
can just pile all those asterisk lines into one recipe and dump them to
mailing-list or something.

Note the last line.  I'm liberal with the To: field because I get mail
forwarded to the home box from all kinds of places.  The ! in front of it
just says not.

There you go.

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Re: dpkg uninstalled package...

1997-09-14 Thread Britton

 I installed some custom packages in /usr/local. Now, when
 i install other packages which depends on that, dselect says
 that x depends on y; hower y is not installed (but y is in /usr/local,
 manually instaled.
 
 How can i tell to dpkg that i have the package `y' ?

One way is with dselect, just select the stuff you want and if the
dependency problems pop hit x to overide them.  Note that .deb packages
will probably not be configured to look for things in /usr/local, so you
will probably have to edit config files before things work.  Also, many
programs will have compiled in places that they look, which will mean you
will need simlinks.  The best thing is probably just to install the
package that provides what you now have in /usr/local.


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Re: procmailrc help

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

The Filtering Mail FAQ explains how to set up both procmail and mailagent.

http://www.ii.com/internet/faqs/launchers/mail/filtering-faq/

Cheers,

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Re: CorelDraw on Linux

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

   Hi!
 
 Has anyone got CorelDraw running on a Debian system?
 
   feri.

No.  But Caldera sells it (version 3.5) on CD.  It should be possible to 
install
it on Debian, I would think.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: sendmail+IDA

1997-09-14 Thread David
I've just done a unpackaged install of qmail.
It seems to work very well so far. One of the nice things is that because
the configuration seems more straight forward I really feel I will be able
to use the software. I've used sendmail and felt a little like a hang
glider pilot in a jumbo jet. So many confusing options, not if I could
just get the landing gear down.

I hope whoever is doing the qmail deb package keeps going with it, because
then more of us would use it!

The only real problem I found was that I had to recompile qpopper to
handle pop3 connections. Instructions for a 1 line patch were included.
The whole process probably took about 6-12 hours over a couple of days.

david..

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243 Brunswick Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, Australia. 12:00pm - 11:00pm
http://www.binary.net.au

On Sun, 14 Sep 1997, Jimmy Lu wrote:

 Does anyone know where I can get this package?
 I have read Mail-HOWTO and it suggests me to get it 
 from sunsite but it is not there.  I also looked at
 vixen.cso.uiuc.edu and many web sites without luck.
 Can someone guide me?  Thanks, Jimmy
 
 
 
 
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Re: minicom, modem questions

1997-09-14 Thread Britton

 I read the Serial and PPP-HOWTO's as well as the PPP-over-minicom
 mini-HOWTO. 
 I made sure my modem is configured as described in section 9.3
 of the PPP-HOWTO (these were default anyway).
 The point where I get stuck each time is section 9.5, i.e.
 testing the modem for dial out.
 What happens is the following:
   I start minicom, the modem initializes, I dial
   my phone-number at work, and after some seconds, ... connection 
   is established.

You might need to wait a few seconds before typing anything else, and
after that youwill almost certainly need to hit return a few times.  But
you probably know that already.

 As pointed out it is then question of finding
 out what the ppp-host requires as login procedure.
 The trouble is that I never receive any prompt, nor any other funny
 characters as suggested in these HOWTO's. Basically nothing happens.  
 (Remark: I am almost sure that my corporate site uses PAP.) 

I don't know anything about PAP, but with my provider I have to explicitly
enter a name and password, then I have to type 'c ppp' to actually start
it sending ppp protocal funny characters.  Mayby you have to do something
like this also?

 I've already spend too much time on this, hope someone can put
 me one the right track again, otherwise I will have to abandon

I hope so too.  Good luck!


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Re: Xemac Mail (VM)

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick


 The problem relates to the headers of outgoing mail, the From: line doesn't
 seem to be rewritten as it should be by smail.  I have the line
 
 from_field=From: Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 in my /etc/smail/config file, but emacs seems to ignore it.

Try this - add the following to your .emacs file:

(setq user-mail-address [EMAIL PROTECTED])

I think it will grab your full name from the /etc/passwd file.  There's
probably a way to set that using elisp too.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: Cursor problem

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

 is there a chance to force the cursor ? I installed debian 1.2 on
 an older portable computer with LC EGA display (which is maybe a little
 bit incompatible). 
 During booting the cursor is there but is away as soon as the
 computers bios messages are shown. 
 Then everythings is fine except the cursor which is NOT THERE.

I did a quick search, for EGA Linux cursor on the 'net, but I couldn't
find a thing.  

Sounds like you might have to do some kernel hacking...  :-)

Sorry.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: Smail /etc/aliases

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

 Anyone know if I can have ALL mail forwarded somewhere else, like this ?:
 
 Matthew
 
 ---
 # This is the aliases file - it says who gets mail for whom.
 # It was originally generated by `smailconfig', part of the Smail package
 # distributed with Debian, but it may edited by the mail systemadministrator.
 # It was originally generated by smailconfig at Wed May 14 12:28:43 EDT1997
 # Please modify the above line, if you change this file by hand.
 # See smailconf(5) for details of the things that can be configured here.
 
 # postmaster: root
 # root: matthew
 
 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know if that would work.  I doubt it.  (I may be wrong)

I do something similar with sendmail.  I added the following to my
/etc/mail/sendmail.mc which was generated with sendmailconfig - and 
then ran I sendmailconfig again to load it.

## Important - the following line has to be first
FEATURE(local_procmail,`/usr/bin/procmail')

##  At the end of the file
define(`LOCAL_MAILER_ARGS', `procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')
define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_ARGS', `procmail -t -m $h $f $u')
define(`LUSER_RELAY', procmail:/etc/procmailrcs/lusers)dnl

My /etc/procmailrcs/lusers looks like this:

# forward mail for unknown users to postmaster
:0
!postmaster

This has always seemed to work for me, so I don't mess with it.

The sendmail m4 macros are documented in /usr/doc/sendmail/cf.README.gz

Cheers,

 - Jim





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Re: procmailrc help

1997-09-14 Thread ioannis



 Attached to this letter you will find a procmailrc file. Adjust
 the MAILDIR variable and are set. 




 Here's what I want to do:
 1) mail addressed to me goes into the inbox (even from mailing lists)
 2) mailing lists are separated (already working)
 3) remaining messages go into a junk folder


-- 
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Signed pgp-key on key server. 

#VERBOSE=on
HOME=/home/paul
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=/home/paul/mail
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/junk
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log
LOCKFILE=$HOME/Mail/.lockmail


:0
*(^To:|^Cc:)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
inbox


:0
*(Cc:|From:|To:).*debian-bugs*
bug

:0
*(Cc:|From:|To:).*debian.*changes*
changes

:0
*(Cc:|From:|To:).*debian-user
user

:0
*(Cc:|From:|To:).*debian-announce
announce

:0
*(Cc:|From:|To:).*debian-changes
changes



Re: dpkg

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

 Hi:
 
 I try to install X11 from cdrom that is download and recorded from ftp.
 When I use dselect to install some packages, some .deb packages are
 refused by dpkg. Even I use dpkg -i xlib* to install X11, error message
 like:
 
 dpkg-deb: /...directory/xlib6*.. not dbian format
 
 Does anybody have same problem before? Why the .deb that is download can
 
 not be accepted?

Ok, I'll bite (since you've asked three times).  Normally, questions on
debian-user get answered more quickly than - I thought somebody else would
have taken this one by now.

Most likely, you have a file named xlib.. in your directory that is
not a .deb file.  Perhaps you also downloaded a xlib*.tar.gz file (an 
upstream source package).

Try running 'dpkg -i xlib*.deb' instead.  Or even better, use the full
explicit file name.

(Of course, there is always the possibility that you have found a bug)

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: libtermcap

1997-09-14 Thread Britton

 Hello,
 
 On Debian there is no libtermcap.so, on Redhat-4.2 there is one. As far
 as I remember libtermcap is obsolete and should be replaced by
 libncurses.

libncurses is really another way of doing buisness altogether.  The
replacement for libtermcap is libterminfo.  Debian is the only
distribution that has really done what it takes to make the switch, i.e.
pitched termcap altogether.  This is good in a way I guess, but it does
mean that just about any non-X targsball will fail to compile in a way
that can really confuse new users.

 
 Am I wrong? Has any body more Information?
 
 The problem occurred when installing some foreign binaries build on a
 Redhat based system.

Many binaries like the one you have will not work as well.  The best
solution is to recompile with Makefile references to termcap replaced with
references to terminfo.  In some piece of documentation somewhere I read
of another solution, I forget if they were creating a link or just plain
installing the termcap library.  Anyway, good luck.

 
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Re: HELP! what debian package provides 'elf-x11r6lib'??

1997-09-14 Thread Jim Pick

 xlib6 used to provide it.  It should have been fazed out a long time ago.

I'd like to add, if you are installing packages out of unstable, which you
must be, since you have this problem (due to the xlib6 in unstable) -- the 
debian-devel list is probably a better place to direct questions about 
dependencies, etc.

Cheers,

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procmailrc help

1997-09-14 Thread Paul Miller
Here's what I want to do:

1) mail addressed to me goes into the inbox (even from mailing lists)
2) mailing lists are separated (already working)
3) remaining messages go into a junk folder

any ideas?

-Paul


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Re: Setting up x

1997-09-14 Thread TJM
Check your /etc/X11/Xserver file.  the first line should have the path and
filename of the server
that you want to use.  It seems that while other distributions link X to
the server you want to run,
Debian uses X as a small 'loader' program that reads the Xserver file and
gets the server to run from here.
With the server listed as XF86_NONE in the Xserver file (first line), I
received the messages you have posted.  I had to change the server name
manually.  For some reason, after fooling around with the configurations,
XF86Setup wouldn't change the server name in Xserver.


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Setting up x

1997-09-14 Thread Thomas J. Malloy
I have setup x before with little trouble.  Now I have tried both 
XF86Setup and XF86Config.  Could anyone tell me what the following error 
message means and how I might correct it.  

_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2
giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.


It seems odd to me since XF86Setup managed to run an, at least passable, 
server

Thanks
Tom


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Re: HELP! what debian package provides 'elf-x11r6lib'??

1997-09-14 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 13 Sep 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 Help! what debian package provides 'elf-x11r6lib'??
 
 For some reason ftp.debian.org doesn't have the unstable directory.. and
 dselect decided to uninstall tons of my programs.. :(  .. I changed the
 unstable directory in ftp to hamm/hamm .. I still need that package
 though.

xlib6 used to provide it.  It should have been fazed out a long time ago.
The latest xlib6 removed the provides, any package that depends on it is
broken.  I filed a list of bugs when the latest xlib6 hit incoming, you
might want to check and file bugs against the packages I missed (I only
filed against packages on my system).  You should be able to force dselect
to leave them installed, a 'Q' when the conflict screen comes up (after
making sure they're still selected as installed) should do it.

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sendmail+IDA

1997-09-14 Thread Jimmy Lu
Does anyone know where I can get this package?
I have read Mail-HOWTO and it suggests me to get it 
from sunsite but it is not there.  I also looked at
vixen.cso.uiuc.edu and many web sites without luck.
Can someone guide me?  Thanks, Jimmy




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Re: sendmail+IDA

1997-09-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

If I recall correctly, sendmail+IDA was a version of sendmail
 that was hacked to be user friendly back in the bad old days of
 version 5 and version 6 sendmail.

However, the new version 8 sendmail beats it in all facets;
 the new m4 macros being far friendlier. Forget the defunct
 sendmail+IDA. Use the new version 8 of sendmail, available on all
 Debian mirrors.

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Re: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb terminal + printer)

1997-09-14 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

 If you were willing to go with 386 class PC's, you could strip them down to
 a special ethernet card with the kernel in ROM (or, a normal ethernet card
 and a floppy disk drive), a video card, a printer port, and 2 to 4 MB of 
 memory (plus keyboard, screen, and printer, of course). That can boot linux 
 over the network, and then you could write the POS app in linux.

  What ethernet cards are suitable for a 8088 or 80286?
 
 
  Will
  the people for which I will be building the application find good-looking
  one-year-warranty such outdated machines?
 
 Well, it's possible thay you will be able to find all the parts you need
 new. I'm not sure if unused 286 or 386 chips are still being sold -
 everything else can be bought new, though.

All this stuff just to have a console + printer? Maybe you have more
energies than I do (as I noticed... it was SO KIND of you answering all my
postings, thanks once again)... I mean, it must not run any piece of
application, that's just the job that _terminals_ have to do, and I could
more well concentrate on what's to be done on the main computer, a nice
powerful Linux box, maybe a 2 CPU motherboard... with just a line to init
for each terminal, as you first suggested; no machines booting via
ethernet, no megs ram around, no video cards + displays (maybe not even
all the couple the same models - different max hor/ver scan frequencies
to deal with) to eventually configure SVGAText for... M... Joey, I'm
hearing of $500 terminals (see the WYSE web page) with a centronics port
and just control codes to send output to the display or the printer... It
sounds more clean to me!  In case one of them gets burned, you haven't but
to get another and connect it (and chances are that the broken one can be
repaired). I will keep looking for infos in that direction.


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Re: problem compiling kernel with sound

1997-09-14 Thread kestrel
On Sun, 14 Sep 1997, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes:
   Has anyone had any luck with compiling a kernel on Debian? I can compile
 [snip]
  
 I suggest that you use `make xconfig' or `make menuconfig' to set up
 your kernel configuration.  That should leave the configuration in
 a consistent state.
 
 After `make xconfig' do `make depend' and `make clean' before doing
 the `make' to compile the source.
 
A note about make menuconfig, if you have a SoundBlaster and don't use the
defult settings you run into some problems unless you run the old configure
script, the dialog boxes won't let you alter the defaults for some reason.

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Re: Xemac Mail (VM)

1997-09-14 Thread john
Rob MacWilliams writes:
 The problem relates to the headers of outgoing mail, the From:
 line doesn't seem to be rewritten as it should be by smail.  I have
 the line
 
 from_field=From: Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 in my /etc/smail/config file, but emacs seems to ignore it.

Of course emacs ignores it.  Emacs doesn't even know about it: that file is
for smail.  That line should result in all your mail going out with From:
Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] regardless of what your MUA put on
the From: line.  Sounds like you have a smail problem, not an emacs
problem.

Carey Evans writes:
 Probably smail only inserts a From: when the MUA doesn't, and VM puts its
 own in.

That line should always change the From:.
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Re: floppy

1997-09-14 Thread Douglas Bates
I would add just one thing to Torsten's very complete and informative
response about mounting a floppy.  The fdutils package contains a
program called fdmount that can automate many of these steps.  In
particular, this program checks the type of filesystem on the floppy
and inserts the appropriate -t option in the mount command.
 $ type fdmount
 fdmount is /usr/bin/fdmount
 $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/fdmount
 fdutils: /usr/bin/fdmount
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debian with smail

1997-09-14 Thread Berni Ernst
Hi there,

we have an internal (virtual) domain with 192.168.0.xxx IPs. Our debian
box (1.3) is the gateway to the outside world. It has an ppp connection to
a provider an several uucp connections for news and file transfer.
This box is also the smarthost for our domain.

So smail has to 
- route mail within our own domain with smtp
- pass mail for the outside world to the provider with smtp
- transfer mail to systems with direct uucp connections

Basicly everything seemed to be OK. But sometimes there is mail to
an address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only as an example) which is
going wrong. This example mail has to go via the smarthost (provider)
with smtp. But it did'nt! smail tries to force a direct smtp connection
which doesn't exist.

Please cracks, have a look to my routers file:

# do I need this entry ? 
inet_addrs:
driver=gethostbyaddr,
transport=smtp;

# for my neighbours, that works fine
uucp_neighbors:
driver=uuname,
transport=uux

# some special uucp adresses, works fine
paths:
driver=pathalias,
transport=uux;
file=paths

# for the internal domain (maybe this causes the problem .
inet_hosts:
driver=gethostbyname,
transport=smtp; 
#   required=lahn.de
domain=lahn.de

# smart host, OK
smart_host:
driver=smarthost, 
transport=smtp;
path=freeway
#   transport=uux;
#   path=dyob

#

When there is mail to such a critical address I comment out the inet_hosts
entry. Then the mail goes correctly via the smart host. During this time
ALL internal mail is routed via smart host and is lost there.

Any hint for my problem ?

thx  bye

berni


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Strange update problem

1997-09-14 Thread Colin R. Telmer
I just updated a machine that was previously running unstable to the
most current version of unstable and a bunch of programs that seem to
depend on libc5 core dump (emacs, fvwm2, ?). I poked around but couldn't
solve the problem so I thought the easiest thing to do would be to
present the output of strace and see if anyone knows what I am missing.
Any help is gratefully appreciated. Cheers

--- strace emacs
execve(/usr/bin/emacs, [emacs], [/* 27 vars */]) = 0
mmap(0, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x40007000
mprotect(0x4000, 20961, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
mprotect(0x8048000, 668058, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
stat(/etc/ld.so.cache, {st_mode=0, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
mmap(0, 9600, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) = 0x40008000
close(3)= 0
stat(/etc/ld.so.preload, 0xbc0c)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 229376, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4000b000
mmap(0x4000b000, 201946, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x4000b000
mmap(0x4003d000, 20172, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x31000) = 0x4003d000
mmap(0x40042000, 4, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, 
-1, 0) = 0x40042000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4000b000, 201946, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 73728, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40043000
mmap(0x40043000, 63121, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x40043000
mmap(0x40053000, 3832, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0xf000) 
= 0x40053000
mmap(0x40054000, 456, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40054000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x40043000, 63121, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 294912, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40055000
mmap(0x40055000, 274695, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x40055000
mmap(0x40099000, 11912, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x43000) = 0x40099000
mmap(0x4009c000, 1148, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4009c000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x40055000, 274695, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 36864, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4009d000
mmap(0x4009d000, 27961, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x4009d000
mmap(0x400a4000, 4908, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x6000) 
= 0x400a4000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4009d000, 27961, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 86016, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x400a6000
mmap(0x400a6000, 71887, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x400a6000
mmap(0x400b8000, 3532, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x11000) 
= 0x400b8000
mmap(0x400b9000, 6712, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x400b9000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x400a6000, 71887, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 49152, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x400bb000
mmap(0x400bb000, 40189, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x400bb000
mmap(0x400c5000, 4272, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x9000) 
= 0x400c5000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x400bb000, 40189, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 671744, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x400c7000
mmap(0x400c7000, 646981, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x400c7000
mmap(0x40165000, 19984, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x9d000) = 0x40165000
mmap(0x4016a000, 884, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4016a000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x400c7000, 646981, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libncurses.so.3.0, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open(/lib/libncurses.so.3.0, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 245760, PROT_NONE, 

Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-14 Thread Britton

On 13 Sep 1997, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:

 dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi
  
  Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
  control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
  
  I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
  lose control on all aplications that I'm using?
 
 Some application (especially Motif-ones) sometimes grab all mouse and
 keyboard event (e.g. when you select a submenu).  If the application
 (or the widget library) forgets to correctly release the grab you will
 be unable to do anything with X-Window System, including switching to
 other terminals using ctrl-alt-fx and zapping X11 using ctrl-alt-bs.
 
 The only solution is a terminal attached to your computer, some people
 use their calculators (the better TI and HP ones) for this purpose.
 You can also use another computer in a local network to remote login
 into your machine.

I believe there is also a program out there that will allow you to kill
the xserver or shut down cleanly with your joystick.  Of course I suppose
that could get grabbed as well by some apps. 



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