MS-DOS Long Files Name
Hi there, I have a problem with MS-DOS long files name. I download from idisk but the files cannot be use when copy to 1.44 diskette. The rescue also cannot be use, my computer tell me that the files is too large to copy to 1.44 diskette. Anyone can help me on this? Thank you. Leslie -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Help with info2www
I am having a problem using info2www to view the emacs documentation. When I first execute the info2www script I am given a top view of my /usr/info directory. One of the items in this list is Emacs, which corresponds to http://localhost/cgi-bin/info2www?(emacs). Following this link brings me to a page titled (allemacs)Top. Contained on this page is the same listing that info gives when selecting emacs from its initial menu, when started wiht no arguments. If I follow the emacs link on this page, http://localhost/cgi-bin/info2www?(emacs-info/emacs) I go no where. The browser thinks it is at a new page, the location is now updated to the link that was followed, but the information displayed is the same as the previous page. Using info by itself I do not have this problem. Also everything else functions properly. I have checked the mailing list but it was not working, also checked the bug database. Anyone else have this problem? How did you fix it. My only thought is that Netscape(4.03) is seeing the document named emacs again and loading the previously cached copy?? Thanks. A. Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MS-DOS Long Files Name
On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Leslie Chan wrote: Hi there, I have a problem with MS-DOS long files name. I download from idisk but the files cannot be use when copy to 1.44 diskette. The rescue also cannot be use, my computer tell me that the files is too large to copy to 1.44 diskette. Anyone can help me on this? You *can't* simply copy the file to the disk. You need to use the rawrite program from ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/tools/rawrite2.exe ... it will write the disk image to the disk in a way that makes the disk bootable. I'd recommend checking out http://www.ssc.com/lg/issue15/debian.html#install for how to install debian. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how many account?
On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: At least 30,000 accounts can be supported. I've never heard of anyone actually having that many. Bruce Just to give an idea it is a little over that .. at last check the university systems here have over 80,000 users ... mainly a sun server managing all that though.. No wonders systems are down so much lately... -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southwest Technology Development Institute New Mexico State University --- HP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ DBP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/ LCAO: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Las_Cruces_Art/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 1st install, dselect error on at package, can't go further
[Posted and mailed. Eh - mailed and mailed.] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : Subject pretty well says it all... even tried both mini and full : installs. Yes but not in any way near enough to make us able to help you: you say what goes wrong but not the error messages. : Installing from official Debian 1.3(.1) obtained recently from : CheapBytes. : : How do I find out what's wrong with the package and bypass it? : : Richard Nelson Considering the amount of information you are giving us, you could try to run the Install part of dselect again (and again and again and again; seriously this works if you're upgrading). What's that (.1) part? Is it Debian 1.3.1 or not? What is the file name of the at deb package? If it looks like this, which is version 3.1.7-3 of at in Debian 1.3.1, I've mananaged to install the package; but I was upgrading: at_3.1.7-3.deb To by-pass it, just deselect the at package in dselect, but as the package is Priority: important you might have to de-dselect a lot of other packages. I don't know what will happen, but if you're desperate you could try setting the at package on hold and see what breaks. Good luck, MartinS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Setting up X
Hi. I'm new to Linux/Debian. Everything was going well until it came time to set up X windows. The trouble is I can't get X to install my mouse. I know that it's a ps/2 mouse and that there's something called gpm also running. I don't know what this is. gpm says that my mouse is on /dev/ttyS0. Is this correct? In the debian installation, I did choose to install the mouse module. I just can't think what could be wrong. Any help would be appreciated. --Farhad Manjoo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Setting up X
On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Farhad Manjoo wrote: I know that it's a ps/2 mouse and that there's something called gpm also running. I don't know what this is. gpm says that my mouse is on Hmm, I don't know if you can run gpm and X at the same time. Gpm is a mouse driver for text terminals. I don't use it, so I can't help you here. /dev/ttyS0. Is this correct? I doubt it. That's a serial port, and a ps/2 mouse goes into the system bus. My ps/2 mouse is on /dev/psaux ... that's likely where yours is. Edit /etc/X11/XF86CONFIG and change the mouse settings to /dev/psaux and the psaux driver ... here's the relevant section of mine. Section Pointer ProtocolPS/2 Device /dev/psaux Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout50 EndSection If this doesn't work, watch the kernel messages on the screen for things like PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian ppp server how-to?
dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Now the user can log in,,, but which is IP address that client must put in his Netscape to see pages in my Apache server?. pppd will work out the IP address your box has on its local network. For instance, the dialin server at work is called prgsrv1 and has an /etc/hosts entry: 192.168.17.35 prgsrv1.pacific-retail.co.nz prgsrv1 So pppd will set the address of the local end to 192.168.17.35, and the remote IP address to Y.Y.Y.Y (from /etc/mgetty/login.config). The addresses used should be logged in /var/log/ppp.log. If you're just using 127.0.0.1, you'll need to pick an address (under 192.168.?.?) and use that. -- Carey Evans * http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending cookies. kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fdisk vs cfdisk to partition 3.1G drive
Hello. This is a query more out of curiosity than a need. I just received a 3.1GB Western Digital Caviar EIDE drive. I slapped it on as Master of the second IDE channel of my motherboard, and after a bit of messing around with the BIOS (leaving the configuration in automatic mode, but specifying LBA), Linux recognized it ok. Fdisk didn't want to partition this disk according to my wishes. Repeatably, fdisk wanted to allocate only 1024 cylinders to a partition. However cfdisk did it just as I wanted it, and graphically. Is this a bug in fdisk? A feature? Now I have /home on a very large separate primary partition, and /usr/local on another fairly large partition. However, I linked /usr/src to the directory (in a logical partition mounted as /usr2) /usr2/src. Is there something special I can do so this is transparent to the ls and dir commands? When I type dir /usr/src I get a nice listing of the link, but when I type dir /usr/src/ a listing is printed. This seems lit must be an FAQ, and I apologize, but I haven't run across it. Another possible FAQ: How many logical partitions can I have? Is it better to have logical partitions than to do the link thing? Alan -- Alan E. Davis Marianas High School AAA196, Box 10001 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MS-DOS Long Files Name
HI again, you supposed to use rawrite to copy the drv1440.bin and resc1440.bin to the floppy, not the usual copy command,:). this has nothing to do with the long filename.I will send u the install debian documentation attached. Hope this will help you. good luck wie -Original Message-From: Leslie Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.orgDate: Saturday, September 20, 1997 8:26 PMSubject: MS-DOS Long Files NameHi there,I have a problem with MS-DOS long files name. I download from idisk but the files cannot be use when copy to 1.44 diskette.The rescue also cannot be use, my computer tell me that the files is too large to copy to 1.44 diskette. Anyone can help me on this?Thank you.Leslie--TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Title: Installing Debian Linux 1.3 Installing Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 About Copyrights and Software Licenses I'm sure you've read the licenses that come with most commercial software - they say you can only use one copy of the software on one computer. The Debian GNU/Linux System isn't like that. We encourage you to put a copy on every computer in your school or place of business. Lend it to your friends, and help them install it on their computers. You can even make thousands of copies and sell them - with a few restrictions. That's because Debian is based on free software. Free software doesn't mean that it doesn't have a copyright, and it doesn't mean that the CDyou buy containing this software is distributed at no charge, it simply means that the licenses of individual programs do not require you to pay for the privilege of copying the programs. There are other sorts of restrictions on how you copy the software, which you can read about once you've installed the system. For example, many of the programs in the system are licensed under the GNU General Public License, or GPL. The GPL requires that you make the source code of the programs available whenever you distribute a copy of the program. Thus, we've included the source code for all of those programs in the Debian system. There are several other forms of copyright and software license used on the programs in Debian. You can find the copyrights and licenses of every program by looking in the directory /usr/doc/program-name/copyright once you've installed your system. The most important legal notice is that this software comes with no warranties. People who write free software can't afford to be sued. System Requirements CPU Your computer must have a 386, 486, Pentium, or Pentium Pro processor, or one of the clones of those processors made by manufacturers such as Cyrix, AMD, TI, IBM, etc. If your processor has letters like sx, sl, slc, etc. after the number as in 386sx, that's fine. The system will not run on the 286 or lower processors. I/O Bus Your computer must use the ISA, EISA, PCI, or VL bus. The VL bus is also known as VESA Local Bus or VLB. Computers that have PCI or VLB generally have ISA or EISA slots as well. Linux offers some support for the Micro-Channel bus used in IBM PS/2 computers, but this is not included on the Debian rescue disk. RAM and Disk You must have at least 4MB of RAM and 40MB of hard disk. If you want to install everything from the chess game through the printed-circuit design software, you'll need 300MB or more. The disk interfaces that emulate the AT hard disk interface which are often called MFM, RLL, IDE, or ATA are supported. SCSI disk controllers from many different manufacturers are supported. See the Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO for more details. Display You should be using a VGA-compatible display interface for the console terminal. Nearly every modern display card is compatible with VGA. CGA, MDA, or HGA work OK for text, but they won't work with the X Window System, and we haven't tested them. Use of a serial terminal for the console is not yet supported. Other Hardware Linux supports a large variety hardware devices such as mice, printers, scanners, modems, network cards, etc. However, none of these devices are required while installing the system. Before You Start Backups Before you start, make sure to back up every file that is now on your system. The installation procedure can wipe out all of the data on a hard disk! Information You'll Need Besides this document, you'll need the cfdisk manual page, the Dselect Tutorial, the Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO, and the X11 Release note for non-US-keyboard users. If your computer is connected to a network, you should ask your network's system administrator for this information: Your host name (you may be able to decide this on your own). Your domain name. Your computer's IP address. The netmask to use with your network. The IP address of your network. The broadcast address to use on your network. The IP address of the default gateway
Re: Setting up X
You probably want to try 'gpm -k' before starting X. I understand that gpm interferes with the operation of ps/2 mice under X. I have no idea why this problem should be confined to ps/2 mice. Good luck. On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Farhad Manjoo wrote: Hi. I'm new to Linux/Debian. Everything was going well until it came time to set up X windows. The trouble is I can't get X to install my mouse. I know that it's a ps/2 mouse and that there's something called gpm also running. I don't know what this is. gpm says that my mouse is on /dev/ttyS0. Is this correct? In the debian installation, I did choose to install the mouse module. I just can't think what could be wrong. Any help would be appreciated. --Farhad Manjoo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Starting out...
On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Ms. Geek wrote: Are there still any pitfalls to using Debian Linux with the K5 chip or any of the other hardware I mentioned above? Eventually I plan on upgrading to I dont know about any other hardware, but I am running Debian on my AMD 586/133mhz motherboard and it works fine. The K5 and K6 chips are designed more for data processing and file movement.. Linux will in most cases run faster on these motherboards then it would on a Pentium motherboard. This is what I have been told and also seen.. the K6 chip...I've heard some Linux horror stories about the K6 not working. Anyone on this list use PowerBoot to dual boot? I'm gonna need a I was quoteing prices for a fast machine to run a server off for a large company, and each time I asked about a Pentium 200 or such motherboard the dealers kept telling me to go for the K6 range of motherboards, so what u are doing shouldnt be too much of a hassle... I started out with a little 486dx33, and when I got the new K5 motherboard I just plugged the hard drive in and away it went... Debian Linux had no complaints about the change in motherboards, all it did was speed up. *lotta support* from you folks, and I promise when I become a Linux guru I will help the newbies on this list. if u wanna become a Linux guru, then unless u have specific reasons for needing windows on ur machine I would strongly recommend going fully for Linux, this is what I did, and I only had an inkling of how any unix variant worked. I had a friend install it for me, and then was left in the deep end. By having only linux I was left with no other alternative then to fix my problems, which has worked for me. I have been using linux for about 8mths now and already have a full house network going which is permenantly connected to the net, and am on odd occasions found helping my ISP out when they got problems. For an account of my ongoing experiences building my computer, check out my website: http://www.amazoncity.com/~msgeek/clones/ I shall do just that :) I hope all goes well. -- Living is just a state of mind... Everything is changing, yet, we have nothing to lose... The Lord Bhaal... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MS-DOS Long Files Name
Wiria Atmadja Kusuma wrote: ... 56 KB snipped ... You gotta be kidding! Did you HAVE to CC install.html to the list? Please consider sending a URL next time. TIA -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Starting out...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Ms. Geek wrote: Are there still any pitfalls to using Debian Linux with the K5 chip or any of the other hardware I mentioned above? Eventually I plan on upgrading to I dont know about any other hardware, but I am running Debian on my AMD 586/133mhz motherboard and it works fine. The K5 and K6 chips are designed more for data processing and file movement.. Linux will in most cases run faster on these motherboards then it would on a Pentium motherboard. This is what I have been told and also seen.. There is a K6 vs Pentium thread in c.o.l.d.system (IIRC), have a look. Main thing about non-Intel chips is that they come with slower FPUs and are optimized for integer math. Anything that uses FPU (like Quake) will run slower on these chips. OTOH apparently K6 is faster that Pentium when it comes to kernel compiles etc. -- Dimitri emaziuk at curtin dot edu dot au Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Newbie going crazy........
Howdy all...:-) Picked up the following files: 9-18-97 2:24p 1474560 42 base14-1.bin 9-18-97 2:28p 1474560 42 base14-2.bin 9-18-97 2:27p 1474560 42 base14-3.bin 9-18-97 2:23p 1299456 42 base14-4.bin 9-18-97 12:05p 1474560 42 drv1440.bin 9-18-97 11:14a 50556 0 install.txt 9-18-97 1:08p 17863 42 rawrite2.exe 9-18-97 12:10p 1474560 42 resc1440.bin Followed the directions layed out in install.txt to make the boot, rescue, base, and driver floppies using rawrite2.exe. Didn't appear to be any problems involved with generating the floppies. Have run through the install proceedure three times now, ending up with the same problem(s) each time: The following error message is generated when the installation program is setting up Debian so that it can be booted from the harddrive: sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo: not found When exiting the installation program upon completing the setup, the setup program asks if the user wants the system rebooted.when I answer yes, all that happens is a couple of lines of text stating Closing x files etc. The reboot does not take place..the computer is just left hanging there displaying those lines of text. When I try using the boot floppy disk (NOT the rescue disk), the boot appears to proceed correctly but again I am left with a hung screen.the driver text info is displayed as it's being loaded but then I can proceed no further. (Keyboard is functional as I can still type but commands are not being processed.) Any thoughts on why these things are occuring would be greatly appreciated..thanks! :-) It's A Magical World, Hobbes, Ol' Buddy... ...Let's Go Exploring ! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Incoming PPP question - subnetting
On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:36:01 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Kevin Traas wrote: Hmmm. What's the netmask on the ethernet interface? If it's set to 255.255.255.224 then everything should work fine even though Yes, it is. Then NT's routing algorithm is wrong or there are other routes afoot. Run netstat -r on the NT box to verify that the routes to the ethernet interface have 255.255.255.224 as the netmask. the NT box sets 255.255.255.0 on the PPP link. This is because the routing algorithm chooses the route with the most matching bits (that is, the one with the longest netmask). Let me know. Interesting thought. I'll give this a try. I've got things working right now by setting up the PPP connection and then manually setting routes on each end. However, if I can automate this, that would be great. With your msg above, I may not have to make any changes on the NT dialin box/router. I'll let you know. On this subject, though Right now, the NT box dials into the modem pool via PPP. Is there any way I can have the Linux box (PPP server) setup a static route to the NT subnet at the time the NT box dials in? (I could set up a script running in the background with a sleep 60 or so that looks to see who's logged in and configures the routing table based on that, but this would be quite a hack - there's got to be a better way) Sure, you can give pppd the path to an ip-up and an ip-down script which will be called when the connection comes up. A much cleaner way would be to run portslave, the RADIUS client. You will let you spec all of this on a per user and per port basis. - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ Linux Router Project -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Starting out...
Hi! Quantum Bigfoot 4.3GB IDE HD, Teac 1.44MB HD, soon to be getting a Seagate [Conner] 800MB Tape Drive) and am tweaking Windows95 into submission. ^ I thought you didn't want to quote: line Bill Gates' pockets. With Window$95 you are doing just that. feri. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Keyboard trouble
I am trying to use a French-Canadian keyboard with Debian 1.1. During the Debian install I asked to use cf.map as the default keyboard which is indeed loaded at boot. However, it does not work marvelously well. I have been through the keyboard manpage, the keyboard HOWTO, and two mini-HOWTO's to no great avail. The number of things it does not do correctly are too numerous to to explicitly list, but I hope that a brief selection will allow someone out there to spot a problem that can be fixed. The modifiers that are active are the following: keymaps 0-2, 4, 6, 8, 12 _AltGr:_ Some combinations seem to work, others not. For example, the following all work correctly. keycode 3 = twoquotedblat keycode 26 = dead_circumflexasciicircum bracketleft keycode 41 = numbersign bar backslash These ones don't: keycode 2 = oneexclam plusminus keycode 24 = o altgr keycode 24 = section keycode 25 = p altgr keycode 25 = paragraph keycode 53 = eacute Eacute acute There are other examples of AltGr's that do and don't work. What the ones that don't work do varies with the environment (vi, bash, pine): 1) nothing, 2) ring the ascii bell, 3) print out an hexadecimal number or 4) make the $ prompt disappear printing an (arg: 0), or an (arg: 6), or some other (arg: ), then make the bash prompt reappear after pressing return, but not accomplishing anything useful. _Ctrl_: The right control key seems not to work at all. I think this may be because of its definition: keycode 97 = Compose Control But, Shift+right control doesn't work either, nor does Compose (There are a number of compose definitions at the end of the keymap file). As for the left Control key, it works for some things but not for everything. In Pine, on a dial up text account using terminal emulation via minicom, Ctrl-C will work to cancel a message, as will Control-X to send it, but none of Ctrl-O to postpone, Ctrl-^ to mark text, Ctrl-K to cut, etc will. I think too much is going wrong for this to be strictly a keymap file problem. Besides, things seem to in order according to the help documents mentionned above. Any ideas or clues out there? Thanks a lot Gerald Crimp -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bug ?: Disappearing DOS partitions
On Sep 19, Lazaro Salem wrote FYI, I also had several primary DOS partitions. MS-DOS sees them all. I've done it on my system with both versions 5.0 and 6.x of MS-DOS. If your unseable DOS partitions were primary (just check what cfdisk sees as DOS partitions: if they are on /dev/?daN with ? = s or h and N 4, then they were logical partitions in the extended partition; else if N5 they were primary partitions and (forget FDISK) you could recover them with DOS PFDISK and the info you got from linux cfdisk/fdisk (I can help you if you need it). Are you sure? I'm sure that I read somewhere that you can only have one primary partition active on each hard disk simultaneously. I've seen: primary DOS primary OS2 primary OS2 bootmanager but OS2 boot manager disabled either the DOS or OS2 partition depending on the startup selection. Just curious.. Adrian -- .signature in post -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Greek and Hebrew in Latex
I know this is not Debian-spesific, but there are a lot of LateX users on this list. So please be patient with me. Can somebody help me with the following problem please? How do I use Hebrew and Greek in Latex documents. I know a limited range of Greek characters is available with the standard teTeX-package, but as far as I can see they are merely there to be available for mathematical and scientifical formulas with AmsteX. I would like to use Greek and Hebrew with the accents and everything that is available in those languages. Johann Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Intermittant PPP connection
Hello All, I'm using the standard debian PPP stuff (pon, poff plog) to my ISP provider. I used to stay connected rock solid with no disconnections. Now when I do a pon I connect with no problem but drop the connection after a few seconds. pon automatically redials and this sequence keeps repeating. This really screws up the works. I've installed lots of stuff from hamm/hamm recently but don't know if this caused the problem. I've tried reinstalling netbase, netstd and ppp with no luck. Any help on this is sincerely appreciated. -- Victor Torrico -- Wildflower Hill, Head Waters, Virginia -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbie going crazy........
Lawrence Lucier wrote: Howdy all...:-) Picked up the following files: 9-18-97 2:24p 1474560 42 base14-1.bin 9-18-97 2:28p 1474560 42 base14-2.bin 9-18-97 2:27p 1474560 42 base14-3.bin 9-18-97 2:23p 1299456 42 base14-4.bin 9-18-97 12:05p 1474560 42 drv1440.bin 9-18-97 11:14a 50556 0 install.txt 9-18-97 1:08p 17863 42 rawrite2.exe 9-18-97 12:10p 1474560 42 resc1440.bin Followed the directions layed out in install.txt to make the boot, rescue, base, and driver floppies using rawrite2.exe. Didn't appear to be any problems involved with generating the floppies. Have run through the install proceedure three times now, ending up with the same problem(s) each time: The following error message is generated when the installation program is setting up Debian so that it can be booted from the harddrive: sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo: not found When exiting the installation program upon completing the setup, the setup program asks if the user wants the system rebooted.when I answer yes, all that happens is a couple of lines of text stating Closing x files etc. The reboot does not take place..the computer is just left hanging there displaying those lines of text. When I try using the boot floppy disk (NOT the rescue disk), the boot appears to proceed correctly but again I am left with a hung screen.the driver text info is displayed as it's being loaded but then I can proceed no further. (Keyboard is functional as I can still type but commands are not being processed.) Any thoughts on why these things are occuring would be greatly appreciated..thanks! :-) I had a similar problem, some times it said: sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo: not found other times it said: open /boot/boot.b : No such file or directory and other times: Error in archive format. I tried a lot of things but I soved the problem changing the hard disk. In order to be sure of that I used the badblocks command with the options -sw over the partition where I was instaling the Linux and it found a lot of badblocks. Jose -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
sendmail errors on console
I've been seeing many message pairs of the form: sendmail: /etc/smail/transports: check_path: unknown attribute sendmail: mail moved to /var/spool/smail/error/)xCNcr-0003CsC on my console. It's a bit annoying (I avoid tty1 and work tty2-tty6) and I'd like to make it stop. Can anyone advise me what to do? TIA And BTW what does IIRC mean? I doubt it's related to Internet Relay Chat. -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] The IQ of the group is that of the member whose IQ is lowest divided by the number of members. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xlock's bomb mode
The xlock man page talks about a bomb mode which can be used to autologout X sessions. Can someone tell me if this mode has been compiled in? If not, can someone tell me how they manage to autologout X sessions? Thanks, Paul Serice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fdisk vs cfdisk to partition 3.1G drive
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: [Klippa, klapp, kluppit fdisk vs cfdisk question.] : Now I have /home on a very large separate primary partition, and /usr/local : on another fairly large partition. However, I linked /usr/src to the : directory (in a logical partition mounted as /usr2) /usr2/src. Is there : something special I can do so this is transparent to the ls and dir : commands? When I type dir /usr/src I get a nice listing of the link, but : when I type dir /usr/src/ a listing is printed. This seems lit must be an : FAQ, and I apologize, but I haven't run across it. I don't know about dir but this behaviour from ls -al is a feature. [Klippa, klapp, kluppit logical partition q.] : Alan I hope somebody else can answer your other questions, as I don't know. Right, MartinS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
netscape 4.0
In the netscape ftp site, other than the communicator, I found the following two files. Does the netscape4 installer require these two file? Do I have to download them? HOD3270_unix.tar.gz autoadmin-v403.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar.gz Lawrence -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: KDE
Yes, I succeeded in compiling KDE, but I needed to download the latest release of Qt from Troll-tech and compile it from source before I could get it to work. I found that the current qt-dev package cannot be used with my mixed libc5/libc6 system. When I tried using the Debian qt-dev, kpanel had a huge memory leak and other aspects of KDE behaved erratically. Ben. On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried to compile and successfully tried to compile KDE? Its a new windows manager which is still in alpha testing stage, but looks nice... if u have, could u please tell me what order u compiled the packages in and what u developer source u have installed on your system. Thanx.. -- Living is just a state of mind... Everything is changing, yet, we have nothing to lose... The Lord Bhaal... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Unidentified subject!
Has it been determined (or guessed) when debian release 2.0 will be completed? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Starting out...
Hi folks! I've just finished the hardware part of building my very own PC Compatible (AMD K5-166, Amptron PM8600 motherboard, 32MB RAM, S3 Trio64+ 2MB video card, Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra16 audio, Hitachi 7730 IDE 4X CD-ROM, Quantum Bigfoot 4.3GB IDE HD, Teac 1.44MB HD, soon to be getting a Seagate [Conner] 800MB Tape Drive) and am tweaking Windows95 into submission. Item per item: Processor: OK motherboard:No idea, probably fine. video: OK. I've heard of some problems with the latest XFree and the S3 server, though ; you may want to check the mailing list archive. sound card: OK. If it's PnP, you'll need isapnptools to configure, unless your BIOS is smart enough to do it. CD-ROM: OK. Hard drive: OK, but be wary of partitions 2GB (it's not your case right now, but you may want to expand) as some Linux utils still have problems I think (it was the case for cfdisk at one time). Tape drive: No idea, but it should be fine if it's an IDE tape. [snip] Are there still any pitfalls to using Debian Linux with the K5 chip or any of the other hardware I mentioned above? Eventually I plan on upgrading to As mentioned, shouldn't be any problems AFAIK. the K6 chip...I've heard some Linux horror stories about the K6 not I upgraded to a K6 last Wenesday. No problems so far, and I've put some load on the system (compiling the kernel with emacs and netscape loaded, while playing Quake... :), though I'll have to make an effort to really load it (32 MB is HARD to fill!). Interestingly enough, Linux gave a few messages about unknown PCI devices but still kept booting and has been working flawlessly since. However, Win95 refused to boot in anything but safe mode after the motherboard upgrade, and I had to reinstall (the lack of diagnostic messages made it totally impossible for me to troubleshoot the problem). Overall, I'm very satisfied with the upgrade so far. Note that I upgraded the whole system unit in one shot (CPU/motherboard/memory). Also note that if your motherboard comes with an USB port, make sure you can disable it through the BIOS setup program ; Linux seems to dislike USBs. working. Anyone on this list use PowerBoot to dual boot? I'm gonna need a *lotta support* from you folks, and I promise when I become a Linux guru I will help the newbies on this list. No idea about how PowerBoot works. I have, however, used the OS/2 Boot Manager while I was still young and innocent. :) If PowerBoot works in a similar way, it's not too difficult to make Linux work with it. Basically, you must install LILO (Linux's own boot loader) in the Linux partition's boot record (*NOT* the master boot record) and point your boot manager to the Linux partition. The boot manager will find LILO, which will boot Linux. You could also use LILO for the whole drive, which is what I'm doing. However, the interface is a bit plain, and if someone who's not used to it tries to boot the computer, it might confuse the hell out of him/her. Good luck with your installation. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 'tell' is missing from libc6
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thus, I think libc6 should include it. It appears that libc6 now includes a manpage for ltell (which, I agree, is what the function should have been named in the first place). However, for compatibility reasons, there should be a #define tell(a,b,c) ltell(a,b,c) in unistd.h. Can anybody confirm if ltell exists in libc5? No, I get a /tmp/cca030211.o: In function `main': /tmp/cca030211.o(.text+0x9): undefined reference to `ltell' error message while compiling a file calling that function. Torsten -- What a depressingly stupid machine The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: TeTeX question (newbie)
Daniel Doro Ferrante [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all. I would like to install some new TeX packages to my system, mainly those distributed with TUG/CDROM. What do I do to install it? Is it only copping to a directory and updating the paths, or is there anything else? You should install them in a subdirectory /usr/lib/texmf/local (which points to /usr/local/lib/texmf) and to run texhash after installing them. You can use the kpsewhich command to check if your files are found. Torsten -- What a depressingly stupid machine The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: awe-drv package
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think something has changed since I last used the awe-* packages. I am runing the install.sh like instructed but even after that I am not getting any prompt about awe32 support in low-level on sound. Any ideas why not or if I can just add the line to the .config file manually? (and if so how its worded). I use the patch version 0.3.3e. I have the following options sitting in my .config file for configuring sound: CONFIG_SOUND=m # CONFIG_PAS is not set CONFIG_SB=y CONFIG_ADLIB=y # CONFIG_GUS is not set # CONFIG_MPU401 is not set # CONFIG_UART6850 is not set # CONFIG_PSS is not set # CONFIG_GUS16 is not set # CONFIG_GUSMAX is not set # CONFIG_MSS is not set # CONFIG_SSCAPE is not set # CONFIG_TRIX is not set # CONFIG_MAD16 is not set # CONFIG_CS4232 is not set # CONFIG_MAUI is not set CONFIG_AUDIO=y CONFIG_MIDI=y CONFIG_YM3812=y SBC_BASE=220 SBC_IRQ=5 SBC_DMA=1 SB_DMA2=5 SB_MPU_BASE=0 SB_MPU_IRQ=-1 DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536 CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND=y # CONFIG_ACI_MIXER is not set CONFIG_AWE32_SYNTH=y Also I use isapnp since I have a PnP card and no PnP bios, does this mean sound should be compiled as a module so the awe drivers get loaded after isapnp runs? PnP is not enough for the awe32 to be initialized correctly. I have one and still need isapnp to initialize the wave-synthesizer on the card. Yes, you need to compile sound as a module. Make sure that pnpdump detect all 3 i/o ports for the wave part of your sound card, here is how this part of my /etc/isapnp.conf looks like: (CONFIGURE CTL0048/51462 (LD 2 # ANSI string --WaveTable-- # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0620 # Maximum IO base address 0x0620 # IO base alignment 1 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 4 (IO 0 (BASE 0x0620)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0620 # Maximum IO base address 0x0680 # IO base alignment 32 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 4 (IO 0 (BASE 0x0620)) (IO 1 (BASE 0x0A20)) (IO 2 (BASE 0x0E20)) # End dependent functions (ACT Y) )) Torsten -- What a depressingly stupid machine The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mouse?
Lazar Fleysher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everybody, Unfortunately I have got this question about mice... I have a 3-button Microsoft mouse and it works fine in text mode. But I could not get it to work under X-windows. Left and Right buttons seem to be O.K., but middle one. I can not even simulate it using other two. I didn't know that 3 button MS mouse exist. BTW: Do the middle button works in text mode? To resolve the problem (I know some mice are crazy) I tryed to change mouse to a different one, to logi. I know it works on Linux (it was checked on a different Linux machine), but when I run gpm -m /dev/ttyS0 -t logi (dev ^^^ name is correct) I never get my prompt back... I have to Ctrl-C. I tried different baud rates using -b option, nothing helps. You should try the protocols mman, ms, msc, mm too if not done yet. If somebody could suggest anything regarding either of these mice, I would be very thankful, Torsten -- What a depressingly stupid machine The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: sendmail errors on console
On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote: I've been seeing many message pairs of the form: sendmail: /etc/smail/transports: check_path: unknown attribute sendmail: mail moved to /var/spool/smail/error/)xCNcr-0003CsC on my console. It's a bit annoying (I avoid tty1 and work tty2-tty6) and I'd like to make it stop. Can anyone advise me what to do? TIA Yes, fix your smail config, which is what is generating the messages. Running smailconfig as root should allow you do configure it for most common setups And BTW what does IIRC mean? I doubt it's related to Internet Relay Chat. Stands for If I Recall Correctly -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MS-DOS Long Files Name
Ha ha, sorry mate, I don't even realized that I attached an html instead, supposed to click the other file below it, sorry again. I'll check it over the next time. still laughing wieYou gotta be kidding! Did you HAVE to CC install.html to the list?Please consider sending a URL next time.TIA-- Dimitriemaziuk at curtin dot edu dot auEntia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem--TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Starting out...
I had to respond via the list because of a munged mail header...person who wrote this message is Benoit Goudreault... Item per item: Processor: OK motherboard: No idea, probably fine. video: OK. I've heard of some problems with the latest XFree and the S3 server, though ; you may want to check the mailing list archive. sound card:OK. If it's PnP, you'll need isapnptools to configure, unless your BIOS is smart enough to do it. CD-ROM:OK. Hard drive:OK, but be wary of partitions 2GB (it's not your case right now, but you may want to expand) as some Linux utils still have problems I think (it was the case for cfdisk at one time). Tape drive:No idea, but it should be fine if it's an IDE tape. Thanks for the rundown! The tape drive is a floppy tape drive. the K6 chip...I've heard some Linux horror stories about the K6 not I upgraded to a K6 last Wenesday. No problems so far, and I've put some load on the system (compiling the kernel with emacs and netscape loaded, while playing Quake... :), though I'll have to make an effort to really load it (32 MB is HARD to fill!). Interestingly enough, Linux gave a few messages about unknown PCI devices but still kept booting and has been working flawlessly since. However, Win95 refused to boot in anything but safe mode after the motherboard upgrade, and I had to reinstall (the lack of diagnostic messages made it totally impossible for me to troubleshoot the problem). Good news about being able to run Linux on the K6! Very happy. The folks at Red Hat said that they did not support the K6 in their literature on their web site, so when I saw that I got worried. Overall, I'm very satisfied with the upgrade so far. Note that I upgraded the whole system unit in one shot (CPU/motherboard/memory). Also note that if your motherboard comes with an USB port, make sure you can disable it through the BIOS setup program ; Linux seems to dislike USBs. Yes, the PM8600 tweeze on the Award BIOS allows you to turn off any port you don't want. Including PS/2 rodents and USB. Good luck with your installation. I suspect I'll need it. --.\\-H-- The World Wide Web-famous Ms. Geek That's Ms. Geek to you!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.amazoncity.com/~msgeek/ Technology's no place for wimps! -- Dilbert -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Intermittant PPP connection
Is it possible you installed diald? I installed diald and changed the /etc/diald/diald.options so the connect option pointed to pon. That is a big mistake because the pon script has the persist option. If you would like to use your existing pon script you can modify the /etc/ppp.options_out and get rid of the persist option. if this is not your case, sorry. Maybe this will help someone else - [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Victor Torrico wrote: Hello All, I'm using the standard debian PPP stuff (pon, poff plog) to my ISP provider. I used to stay connected rock solid with no disconnections. Now when I do a pon I connect with no problem but drop the connection after a few seconds. pon automatically redials and this sequence keeps repeating. This really screws up the works. I've installed lots of stuff from hamm/hamm recently but don't know if this caused the problem. I've tried reinstalling netbase, netstd and ppp with no luck. Any help on this is sincerely appreciated. -- Victor Torrico -- Wildflower Hill, Head Waters, Virginia -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Intermittant PPP connection
Victor Torrico writes: I used to stay connected rock solid with no disconnections. Now when I do a pon I connect with no problem but drop the connection after a few seconds. Has your isp made any changes lately? Mine recently made an unannounced change which required me to insert a pause at the start of the login sequence. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Intermittant PPP connection
On 97/09/20 at 12:11 PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Victor Torrico writes: I used to stay connected rock solid with no disconnections. Now when I do a pon I connect with no problem but drop the connection after a few seconds. Has your isp made any changes lately? Mine recently made an unannounced change which required me to insert a pause at the start of the login sequence. John Hasler I should have been clearer. I can log on OK but disconnect after 30 to 40 seconds. Then pon autoredials. Maybe there is an inactivity timeout window set by the ISP? Thanks for your reply. -- Victor Torrico -- Wildflower Hill, Head Waters, Virginia -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Intermittant PPP connection
On 97/09/20 at 06:50 AM -0500, Ricardo Muggli wrote: Is it possible you installed diald? I installed diald and changed the /etc/diald/diald.options so the connect option pointed to pon. That is a big mistake because the pon script has the persist option. If you would like to use your existing pon script you can modify the /etc/ppp.options_out and get rid of the persist option. if this is not your case, sorry. Maybe this will help someone else - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I purged the diald package since I really don't use it. I'll see what happens now. On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Victor Torrico wrote: Hello All, I'm using the standard debian PPP stuff (pon, poff plog) to my ISP provider. I used to stay connected rock solid with no disconnections. Now when I do a pon I connect with no problem but drop the connection after a few seconds. pon automatically redials and this sequence keeps repeating. This really screws up the works. I've installed lots of stuff from hamm/hamm recently but don't know if this caused the problem. I've tried reinstalling netbase, netstd and ppp with no luck. Thanks for your reply. -- Victor Torrico -- Wildflower Hill, Head Waters, Virginia -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Intermittant PPP connection
On 97/09/20 at 13:55 PM -0500, Rob MacWilliams wrote: Victor Torrico writes: On 97/09/20 at 12:11 PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Victor Torrico writes: I used to stay connected rock solid with no disconnections. Now when I do a pon I connect with no problem but drop the connection after a few seconds. Has your isp made any changes lately? Mine recently made an unannounced change which required me to insert a pause at the start of the login sequence. John Hasler I should have been clearer. I can log on OK but disconnect after 30 to 40 seconds. Then pon autoredials. Maybe there is an inactivity timeout window set by the ISP? Thanks for your reply. -- Victor Torrico My ISP has a 30 sec timeout on login so I put a ping in in my ip-up script to get things solid before he had a chance to disconnect me :-) It looks like this: snip export PATH sleep 1s ping -c 2 cl-sys.com snip This seems to be enough to get me to the next level of timeouts, 10 min. I'm having similar problems on several machines and OS's as you are, so don't feel alone. Later Rob I think that is exactly it because of this message when disconnecting: Sep 20 15:00:27 rigpa chat[206]: expect (ogin) Sep 20 15:00:27 rigpa chat[206]: ^M Sep 20 15:01:06 rigpa chat[206]: ATDT9256211^M^M Sep 20 15:01:06 rigpa chat[206]: CONNECT 21600/ARQ^M Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: Welcome to CFW Internet!^M Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: ^M Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: ^M Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: login -- got it Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: send (vtorrico^M) Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: expect (word) Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: : vtorrico^M Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: Password -- got it Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa chat[206]: send (??) Sep 20 15:01:08 rigpa pppd[190]: Serial connection established. Sep 20 15:01:09 rigpa pppd[190]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 20 15:01:09 rigpa pppd[190]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS2 Sep 20 15:01:12 rigpa pppd[190]: local IP address 205.219.250.109 Sep 20 15:01:12 rigpa pppd[190]: remote IP address 205.219.250.66 Sep 20 15:01:43 rigpa pppd[190]: LCP terminated at peer's request Sep 20 15:01:46 rigpa pppd[190]: Connection terminated. vct# The LCP terminated ... is about 30 seconds after remote IP ... I'll incorporate your ping. Thanks for your reply. -- Victor Torrico -- Wildflower Hill, Head Waters, Virginia -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Unidentified subject!
Has it been determined (or guessed) when debian release 2.0 will be completed? I am in no way authorized to do this, but I would say that hopefully by the end of the year. There are still many obvious problems with the release and noone yet counted critical bugs I guess. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Intermittant PPP connection
On 97/09/20 at 13:55 PM -0500, Rob MacWilliams wrote:
Victor Torrico writes:
On 97/09/20 at 12:11 PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Victor Torrico writes:
I used to stay connected rock solid with no disconnections. Now when I
do a pon I connect with no problem but drop the connection after a few
seconds.
Has your isp made any changes lately? Mine recently made an unannounced
change which required me to insert a pause at the start of the login
sequence.
John Hasler
I should have been clearer. I can log on OK but disconnect after 30 to 40
seconds. Then pon autoredials.
Maybe there is an inactivity timeout window set by the ISP?
Thanks for your reply.
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My ISP has a 30 sec timeout on login so I put a ping in in my ip-up
script to get things solid before he had a chance to disconnect me :-)
It looks like this:
snip
export PATH
sleep 1s
ping -c 2 cl-sys.com
snip
This seems to be enough to get me to the next level of timeouts, 10
min. I'm having similar problems on several machines and OS's as you
are, so don't feel alone.
Later
Rob
Piggy backing on your idea, I am just leaving ping turned on all the time so
that there is one ping every twenty seconds. This keeps the ISP timeout
window happy and should not interfere in any significant way with using any
applications or downloads. This now allows me to take my time without
worrying about thirty second timeouts. It turns out that the ISP timeout is
after any thirty second period of inactivity. Not just after login.
Here's what I do:ping -i 20 ISP domain name goes here
ie; I use: ping -i 20 cfw.com
Of course this could also be put in the ip-up file or made into a bash
function. pg () { ping -i 20 cfw.com; }
Let me know if this works for you please.
Cheers,
Victor
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getty question
What is mingetty useful/used for? How do you install it? I have tried; dselect and dpkg will not let me remove or exchange agetty. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xlib6g experiences
When installing the packages, I was getting the following errors: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (No such file or directory), skipping Without doing anything else, none of the X programs would link. So, I tried to run ldconfig by hand, and sure enough, no errors. The X programs would then run. Strange thing is that everytime I install the xlib6g packages, I still get the errors despite the fact that the links the errors refer to exist and point to existing files. Is maybe something wrong with the timing of those packages? Paul Serice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Greek and Hebrew in Latex
If you are facing problems with using/typesetting Greek with TeX, you may join the ELLHNIKA list. To do this, just send an e-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUBSCRIBE ELLHNIKA your 1st name your last name Alternately, write to Angelos Haritsis [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask him to fwd your request to the right forum. It is best if you also include a copy of this correspondence. -- Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida Signed pgp-key on key server. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
The Value of TEX
hello, I am a newbie to linux and i keep hearing all of these postings to the groups about tex. my question is just how long would it take to be proficient and is the program really relevant at this period of time? allan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: The Value of TEX
On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, butch wrote: hello, I am a newbie to linux and i keep hearing all of these postings to the groups about tex. my question is just how long would it take to be proficient and is the program really relevant at this period of time? To produce simple documents (letters, reports, papers), you could learn in about fifteen minutes, with a decent book (like LaTeX: A Document Preparation System by Leslie Lamport, latex's author). Btw, if you're going to learn tex, you'll probably want to concentrate on the LaTeX dialect, and learn to use Emacs; it makes it much simpler in general. To learn to do some of the niftier, high-end stuff, you could spend years. It's like othello: A Minute to Learn, a Lifetime to Master. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
