Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence
I tried to comment out ALL FontPath and I can't still run startx, though
the Font looks bad, xfs not running and the following commands give
error.  I am using xsvga, does it has a VERY default font!
  fsinfo -server localhost:7100
  fslsfonts -server localhost:7100



Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 
 On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:
 
  If I put 'FontPath tcp/localhost:7100' the very first line and follow
  by others font paths, do you think the X server will try to use the xfs,
  if fails it uses the others.
 
 Hmm, interesting thought. I'll try it.
 
 -- wait some time --
 
 No, it doesn't work. With this in XF86Config:
 FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
 and xfs not running, I get:
 
 [all normal messages]
 (**) FontPath set to tcp/localhost:7100,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
 [more normal messages]
 _FontTransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 failed to set default font path
 'tcp/localhost:7100,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/'
 Fatal server error:
 could not open default font 'fixed'
 
 So, it turns out your suggestion doesn't work here.


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence
sorry, my previous post have some typo errors, here is the correct one.

I tried to comment out ALL FontPath and I CAN still run startx, though
the Font looks bad, xfs not running and the following commands give
error.  I am using xsvga, does it has a VERY default font!
  fsinfo -server localhost:7100
  fslsfonts -server localhost:7100

Why commenting out all FontPath and I can still run startx?

Lawrence


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-26 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:

 sorry, my previous post have some typo errors, here is the correct one.
 
 I tried to comment out ALL FontPath and I CAN still run startx, though
 the Font looks bad, xfs not running and the following commands give
 error.  I am using xsvga, does it has a VERY default font!
   fsinfo -server localhost:7100
   fslsfonts -server localhost:7100
 
 Why commenting out all FontPath and I can still run startx?

Because of this (I tried it, too):

$ X -probeonly

[normal messages]
Warning: No FontPath specified, using compiled-in default.
Warning: The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist.
 Entry deleted from font path.
(--) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
[more normal messages]

You see, if you don't say where the fonts are the X server tries to find
them itself.

Remco


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Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
   No, you can have libc4, libc5, and libc6 on the machine
  simultaneously. These are just run time shared libraries, and do not
  interfere with each other. There should be only one -dev package at
  one time. 
 
   Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on
  your machine that depends on libc4.

It is my understanding (and experience) that ld.so 1.9, needed for libc6,
will not run a.out binaries anyway.


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Re: Which news reader to use?

1997-09-26 Thread Paul Serice
Richard Heestand wrote:
 
 I have installed nn and receive my news via NNTP.  However, it
 takes about 5 minutes to get my first page of news (slower than ms
 windows trumpet by about 4 minutes!).  Is this a function of nn.
 Should I be using another newsreader?

I find the combination of leafnode to fetch and store the messages
and Netscape to read the messages works as well as (if not a little
better than) Free Agent.

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IEEE POSIX Standards and Linux

1997-09-26 Thread Mario de Mello B. Neto
Dear Sirs,

  I am a Linux user and I need information regarding linux (debian,RedHat,
Slackware) and its conformance to IEEE POSIX standards, specially those
that Microsoft Windows NT is not compliant.

  Best regards,

Mario de Mello B. Neto.


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X And Video

1997-09-26 Thread Syd Alsobrook
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I am having an interesting problem now. I finally got my new machine 
to boot up and I reset my X configuration for my new video card. X 
works great but when I exit back to a stand tty the video is trashed 
(misc. characters, garbage, and general bad mood) reset does not work 
and all virtual tty are trashed. The video board is a STB Systems w/ 
an advanced logic chipset alg2301 1024 ram. STB's website was rather 
useless mostly windows crap the only thing I saw that might be of 
interest was the need to have a memory exclusion, but I don't know 
how to do that under linux. 

Thanks again,
Syd
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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 
 On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:
 
  sorry, my previous post have some typo errors, here is the correct one.
 
  I tried to comment out ALL FontPath and I CAN still run startx, though
  the Font looks bad, xfs not running and the following commands give
  error.  I am using xsvga, does it has a VERY default font!
fsinfo -server localhost:7100
fslsfonts -server localhost:7100
 
  Why commenting out all FontPath and I can still run startx?
 
 Because of this (I tried it, too):
 
 $ X -probeonly
 
 [normal messages]
 Warning: No FontPath specified, using compiled-in default.
 Warning: The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist.
  Entry deleted from font path.
 (--) FontPath set to 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 [more normal messages]
 
 You see, if you don't say where the fonts are the X server tries to find
 them itself.

Thank for your info. and yes the server compiled with a default font
paths.

By the way, I can still run startx with the following FontPath, and
don't know you said your won't work?
FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

Lawrence


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Re: Netscape BS Del Problems

1997-09-26 Thread Evan Thomas
Lawrence wrote:
 
 Markus M. Schneider wrote:
 
[cut]
  I am using communicator 4.03 and had also this problem. I found however
  that there was the following in the /etc/X11/Xresources file from the
  installation:
 
  ! /etc/X11/Xresources
  !
  ! This is the global Xresources file.  It is used by both xdm and xinit.
 
  !
  ! Fix Motif client handling of backspace/delete
  !
  *XmText.translations: #override\n\
KeyosfDelete: delete-previous-character()
  *XmTextField.translations: #override\n\
KeyosfDelete: delete-previous-character()
 
  Now this fix seams to do just the opposite what we want. Therfore I've
  commented it out. After restarting the X-Server and netscape the problem
  was solved. Perhaps one can avoid the server restart when substituting
  delete-previous-character() by delete-next-character() above, executing
  xrdb -merge /etc/X11/Xresources and restarting netscape.
 
 just commenting out the above four lines is ok.  substituting previous
 by next won't help.
 
 Lawrence

Actually, Markus' suggestion of replacing previous by next and running
xrdb _did_ work for me.

Thanks to Markus' post and the Linux Journal article I've finally, after
many years, got most of my favourite applications using delete and
backspace correctly :)

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IBM THINKPAD

1997-09-26 Thread EL TUCK




im triying to install 
debian ver 1.3 on mi IBM 365 xd laptop 
for the first time
i have 8mb of ram, a 810 mb hard disk 
drive (cyl 788 , heads 32 , sectors 63) , but the systems stops when booting 
from the rescue disk , when i pressed F4 the table says something like
HARDWARE 
PARAMETER TO SPECIFY
 
IBM PS/1 or ValuePoint (IDE 
disk) 
hd=cylinders,heads,sectors
 IBM 
Thinkpad 
floppy=thinkpad
but now i dont really know what to do 
now .



Re: Which news reader to use?

1997-09-26 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Paul Serice; unless Mutt is confused,on Sep 25, you wrote :
 Richard Heestand wrote:
  
  I have installed nn and receive my news via NNTP.  However, it
  takes about 5 minutes to get my first page of news (slower than ms
  windows trumpet by about 4 minutes!).  Is this a function of nn.
  Should I be using another newsreader?
 
 I find the combination of leafnode to fetch and store the messages
 and Netscape to read the messages works as well as (if not a little
 better than) Free Agent.
 
 Paul Serice


I use slrn newsreader and find it quite fast...YMMV

HTH
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Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
  Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on
   your machine that depends on libc4.
 
 It is my understanding (and experience) that ld.so 1.9, needed for libc6,
 will not run a.out binaries anyway.

Due to popular outcry, ldso still includes support for a.out, although it
is unsupported and unmaintained.  As far as I know, it works at the moment
though.

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Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Sep 25, 1997 at 10:28:18PM -0400, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
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 On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on
your machine that depends on libc4.
  
  It is my understanding (and experience) that ld.so 1.9, needed for libc6,
  will not run a.out binaries anyway.
 
 Due to popular outcry, ldso still includes support for a.out, although it
 is unsupported and unmaintained.  As far as I know, it works at the moment
 though.

I got Exec format errors or similar when I tried it. I may not be running
the latest though, but it is 1.9.

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Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread schulte
According to Scott K. Ellis:
 
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 On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on
your machine that depends on libc4.
  
  It is my understanding (and experience) that ld.so 1.9, needed for libc6,
  will not run a.out binaries anyway.
 
 Due to popular outcry, ldso still includes support for a.out, although it
 is unsupported and unmaintained.  As far as I know, it works at the moment
 though.

I have the old game sasteroids in a.out format. It still works with 
ldso 1.9.6-2, libc 4.6.27-15, and aout-svgalib 1.2.10-4.

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Re: serial port speed

1997-09-26 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:21:15 +0100 (BST), David Wright wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:23:03 +1000, Lawrence wrote:
 
 Anyone knows the default serail port speed?  It is 38,400bps?  Which
 file responsible for this setting?  I want to increase it to 115,200bps.
 
 38.4K, yes, /etc/rc.boot/0setserial, use the spd_vhi option.

Perhaps there's some history here. I installed Debian 1.3 on a 1997 
pentium and   setserial -a /dev/ttyS?   all say that baud_base is 115200
and Flags: spd_normal...
Both mgetty and minicom will satisfactorily handle 115200, so all this 
messing with spd_vhi seems to be a thing of the past. Presumably, by now,
any software that can't ask for 38400 should have a bug report filed 
against it.

Uhhum.Some of us use redirection and piping of the serial ports. 

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Re: IEEE POSIX Standards and Linux

1997-09-26 Thread Britton

From what I have heard, this could be tricky.  It seems amazing, but the
IEEE, in it's infinite wisdom, has decided that people should pay to find
out about some of the standards it issues.  Anyone know if this is still
the case?

On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Mario de Mello B. Neto wrote:

 Dear Sirs,
 
   I am a Linux user and I need information regarding linux (debian,RedHat,
 Slackware) and its conformance to IEEE POSIX standards, specially those
 that Microsoft Windows NT is not compliant.
 
   Best regards,
 
 Mario de Mello B. Neto.
 
 
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Re: Disapearing /dev/tty0's

1997-09-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Sep 24, 1997 at 08:43:26PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 20:28:18 MDT Chad D. Zimmerman 
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:
  
   Plug-and-Pray ?

Also of concern was that tty01 seemed to be a 16550A first time,
and only a 16450 when tty03 disappeared. (And when did these
stop being called ttySx?)

 Good boy ! :-) Me too.
 Ok, so, from boot to boot, serial devices come and go.
 No I have no clue. If it were that the devices are there at boot and 
 then diseappear, I had an explanation, but if in the same conditions 
 the devices come and go from boot to boot, no idea. Sorry.

Some old AMI BIOS systems had a bug in their serial detection;
as I recall, a port would not be detected if the FIFO was
already enabled. I wouldn't expect it to affect Linux though.


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MC

1997-09-26 Thread Peter Bodnar
hi

  I have a problem with midnight commander under X-windows
  I know, this was solved here, but I can't find this in mailing archive
  I can't use function keys F1-F4, if MC is running under Xterm
  Can anybody help me? (or can anybody tell me, where in mail archive I can
  found solutions?)

 thanx
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Mouse Troubles....

1997-09-26 Thread jd?

Greetings all,

ok first thank you to everyone who helped me earlier with the basic hd
mounting stuff.after adding a few lines to the fstab and other file in
/etc i quickly had the win95 partition mounted..

OK...my next scenario.

i have all the X .deb packages and have installed them.but when i ran
X...i get the error that no mouse was found.  i performed the xf86config
and answered all the questions and tried various mice protocols but to no
avail.  i have an MS mouse through a ps/2 porti did try to run X with
the option of starting up even if no mouse detected and did get that
awesome X background but nothing elseis there any ways of getting
around using the keyboard?  and is there anyway of checking for my mouse
before starting X?  Thanx in advance.

jd?
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Re: IEEE POSIX Standards and Linux

1997-09-26 Thread jdassen
On Sep 25, Mario de Mello B. Neto wrote
   I am a Linux user and I need information regarding linux (debian,RedHat,
 Slackware) and its conformance to IEEE POSIX standards, specially those
 that Microsoft Windows NT is not compliant.

I'm nowhere near a standards expert, but I suspect most Linux distributions
are in effect POSIX.1 compliant, or very close.

[extracted from http://www.lasermoon.co.uk/ft2/FT2.html]
| The NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) have made the
| POSIX.1 FIPS151-2 test suites freely available and as such the kernel and
| relevant libraries have been made Conformant and are already freely
| available.

These test suites can be found on Debian mirrors as
project/misc/NIST-PCTS_151-2.tar.gz . You might one to check them out.

On Sep 25, Britton wrote
 From what I have heard, this could be tricky.  It seems amazing, but the
 IEEE, in it's infinite wisdom, has decided that people should pay to find
 out about some of the standards it issues.  Anyone know if this is still
 the case?

Probably. The development of standards by standards organizations is often
financed by selling the standards.

HTH,
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dpkg and dselect

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Howdy all:-)

First off, many thanks to the people who responded to my DOSKey and file format 
queries.  Lots
of great information sent my way and much appreciated at this end!  :-)

Quick recap of my problem here:

The Rescue/Base installation refuses to install LILO on my system.  The boot 
disk refuses to
boot up because, AFAIK, LILO isn't installed on the harddrive.  Changed the 
reference in
SYSLINUX.CFG on the floppy boot disk to:

APPEND root=/dev/fd0 ro

from

APPEND root=/dev/hda6 ro

When prompted for the root floppy I used the file image floppy generated by 
ROOT.BIN..still
the system won't boot.

OK, I thought did I, no problem, I will just do a LILO manual install with the 
LILO_19-2.deb
file I grabbed off the Debian site and tweak it from there.  Read the 
information on dpkg and
dselect in the debian and install docs.booted the Rescue floppy and 
went into the shell.
From what I can see, neither dpkg or dselect is included (or can be run from 
the shell) in the
base installation setup.  (ARRRH..did I mention yet that I'm 
having fun?
grin).


I seemed to have reached a Catch-22 stage here and am no longer sure how to 
proceed on
rectifying this problem...any words of wisdom for this confused but 
enthusiastic newbie
would be greatly appreciated.  :-)





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Re: kde menus

1997-09-26 Thread Tibor Simko
 joost == joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

joost Good thing (to upgrade to menu-1.5). I'd like to urge more
joost users of stable with problems with menu files (or the
joost _very_ cryptic error messages of menu-1.3) to upgrade to
joost menu-1.5-4. 

indeed, this helped me a lot to identify the error in
/etc/menu-config/kde.  here is a small patch that makes
/etc/menu-config/kde in kdeapps0.10.01-2 at least functional:


--- /etc/menu-methods/kde   Thu Sep 25 16:38:03 1997
+++ /etc/menu-methods/kde.orig  Wed Sep 24 10:41:43 1997
@@ -18,9 +18,6 @@
 # Note that this actually makes install-menu generate a whole 
 # directory tree on the fly. What a flexible program!
 genmenu=parent($section) / replacewith(title(),/, ) .kdelnk
-startmenu= 
-endmenu= 
-submenutitle=
 
 # We don't want menu items appearing under a /Debian menu, which is the
 # default.


of course, this patch is not an ideal solution: joey?

joost So, please, everybody, upgrade to menu_1.5_4. (If it is at
joost all possible, I'd like to get it included in the next
joost stable-fixes. If there are more people like you who test
joost it, I may have more chance of getting it in stable).

thank you, it worked very well for me

cheers
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Re: MC

1997-09-26 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
 hi
 
   I have a problem with midnight commander under X-windows
   I know, this was solved here, but I can't find this in mailing archive
   I can't use function keys F1-F4, if MC is running under Xterm
   Can anybody help me? (or can anybody tell me, where in mail archive I can
   found solutions?)
 
  thanx
 peter

You can try options/learn Keys from pulldownmenu or use Esc number sequence.

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Re: Mouse Troubles....

1997-09-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writ
es:...
  i have all the X .deb packages and have installed them.but when i ran
  X...i get the error that no mouse was found.  i performed the xf86config
  and answered all the questions and tried various mice protocols but to no
  avail.  i have an MS mouse through a ps/2 port.
If you have a PS/2 mouse (with a little circular plug), its device name is
/dev/psaux and you should tell X that it is a PS2 mouse rather than a
Microsoft mouse.  (The device /dev/psaux is a character device with major
number 10 and minor number 1.)

The XF86Config file should contain these lines:

Section Pointer
   ProtocolPS/2
   Device  /dev/psaux
EndSection

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Problems removing samba

1997-09-26 Thread Joerg Friedrich
Hi!
I tried to remove samba and this is the error-msg:-)

Removing samba ...
dpkg: error processing samba (--remove):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1

How can I remove samba? 


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Re: MC

1997-09-26 Thread Peter Bodnar
Mirek Kwasniak wrote:
 
  hi
 
I have a problem with midnight commander under X-windows
I know, this was solved here, but I can't find this in mailing archive
I can't use function keys F1-F4, if MC is running under Xterm
Can anybody help me? (or can anybody tell me, where in mail archive I can
found solutions?)
 
   thanx
  peter
 
 You can try options/learn Keys from pulldownmenu or use Esc number sequence.
 
 Mirek
 
 I know this, but learn key don't work correctly...but some weeks ago
somebody wrote about patch on MC 

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Bruce on the internet

1997-09-26 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi!

Bruce Perens has just arrived at the convention in Aachen.
His talk will be distributed over the net using RealVideo.
If you have an RA player handy, switch to the URL as listed
in the signature and watch Bruce on Saturday, 9/27/97.
The talk will take place from 13.30 to 14.30 MET (german time)

Best regards from Aachen,

Joey

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Re: Problems removing samba

1997-09-26 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Joerg Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: I tried to remove samba and this is the error-msg:-)
:
: Removing samba ...
: dpkg: error processing samba (--remove):
:  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
:
: How can I remove samba? 

This is a bug in the Samba package. Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.prerm
and add the option --oknodo to the invocation of the start-stop-daemon
program (you'll find two).

E.-

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Compaq scsi

1997-09-26 Thread Evgeniy Kazanov
Did somebody install debian on compaq with SCSI.
It is written NCR53S710 on the chip.
Kernel doesn't see SCSI at all.
Thanks
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Re: Problems removing samba

1997-09-26 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
 Hi!
 I tried to remove samba and this is the error-msg:-)
 
 Removing samba ...
 dpkg: error processing samba (--remove):
  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
 
 How can I remove samba? 
 

In file /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.prerm change two lines from:


start-stop-daemon --stop --user root --name nmbd --quiet
start-stop-daemon --stop --user root --name smbd --quiet

to:

start-stop-daemon --stop --oknodo --user root --name nmbd --quiet
start-stop-daemon --stop --oknodo --user root --name smbd --quiet


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Re: XServers and P9100 chipset

1997-09-26 Thread Joost_Kooij


On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Russ Cook wrote:

 I'm a brand new Linux user, still installing/configuring Debian 1.3.1.
 I have a Diamond Viper SE PCI video card with the P9100 chipset.  I tried
 installing the XServer_P9000 (I'm not at my machine and don't have the
 precise name) first, but couldn't get it to work.  Reading the Readme, I
 found out that it does not support the P9100 chipset.
 Does anyone use the same video card I have?  

Probably not with xfree86, as the readme says.

 What XServer have you found to work?  

The cards that are supported are mentioned in the release notes for 
xfree86 3.3(.1).

 Can you give hints to set it up?

Yes, join the xfree86 development team ;-)

Get a S3 trio or S3 virge card, those are cheap and well-supported.

Good luck,


Joost


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amd/samba

1997-09-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hey

Anyone out there who has gotten Autmounterdeamon to work together with Samba
(that is, automagically mounting samba shares) ?


Remco


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Host Unreachable even though it's in the route table

1997-09-26 Thread Ross Gardler
My ISP has just changed my IP number, gateway and DNS server. I have
manually changed the routing information in /etc/init.d/network to
reflect the new numbers yet when I ping the gateway I get Destination
Host Unreachable. the route -n command gives me the following output...

DestinationGatewayGenmaskFlagsMetric
RefUseIFace
195.44.34.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U0
0xeth0
192.168.1.00.0.0.0255.255.255.0U0
0xeth1
127.0.0.00.0.0.0255.0.0.0U
00xlo
0.0.0.0195.44.34.10.0.0.0UG
1 0xeth0

I am also using IP_Masqueradeing to connect a win 95 machine
(192.168.1.2) connected on eth1, which is redirecting everything to
eth0.

What have I done wrong?

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Re: dpkg and dselect

1997-09-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes:
  Quick recap of my problem here:
  

Can you post what error messages you see?  It would make diagnosis a lot 
easier.

  The Rescue/Base installation refuses to install LILO on my system.  The boot
   disk refuses to
  boot up because, AFAIK, LILO isn't installed on the harddrive.

If the boot disk doesn't load, what do you see? Is it a bootable floppy?

Do you see any letters of the word 'LILO'?

Changed the 
  reference in
  SYSLINUX.CFG on the floppy boot disk to:
  
  APPEND root=/dev/fd0 ro
  
  from
  
  APPEND root=/dev/hda6 ro
  

I don't think that this has anything to do with lilo.  Whatever is done with
lilo has to be written into the boot sector, so changing a configuration
file alone will have no effect.

  When prompted for the root floppy I used the file image floppy generated by 
  ROOT.BIN..still
  the system won't boot.
  
  OK, I thought did I, no problem, I will just do a LILO manual install with t
  he LILO_19-2.deb
  file I grabbed off the Debian site and tweak it from there.  Read the inform
  ation on dpkg and
  dselect in the debian and install docs.booted the Rescue floppy and 
  went into the shell.
  From what I can see, neither dpkg or dselect is included (or can be run from
   the shell) in the
  base installation setup. 

dpkg is at /usr/bin/dpkg; it is part of the base system, and essential, but
I do not know whether it is actually part of the four base diskettes
lilo is in /sbin/lilo

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Re: XServers and P9100 chipset

1997-09-26 Thread Civ Kevin F. Havener
Don't know how much thos S3 cards Joost wrote about cost, but it may be 
more cost effective to buy AxxeleratedX from Xi Graphics ($99, www.xig.com).
It does support your card/chipset and you can download a demo before 
buying to make sure (times out after 10 mins).  Install was a piece of 
cake, and it works great with my Alliance ProMotion 6422 that was for the 
longest time unsupported by XFree and lately only somewhat supported (and 
I'm too clueless to be of much help to the XFree developers).

One caveat.  If you're using XFree 3.3 (you still need it, you just don't 
need the XFree Server) you will have to ungzip your font directories and 
then compress them (optional) as recent list traffic suggests.  Xi may 
have directions for doing this on their website.

   Kevin 

On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Joost_Kooij wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Russ Cook wrote:
 
  I'm a brand new Linux user, still installing/configuring Debian 1.3.1.
  I have a Diamond Viper SE PCI video card with the P9100 chipset.  I tried
  installing the XServer_P9000 (I'm not at my machine and don't have the
  precise name) first, but couldn't get it to work.  Reading the Readme, I
  found out that it does not support the P9100 chipset.
  Does anyone use the same video card I have?  
 
 Probably not with xfree86, as the readme says.
 
  What XServer have you found to work?  
 
 The cards that are supported are mentioned in the release notes for 
 xfree86 3.3(.1).
 
  Can you give hints to set it up?
 
 Yes, join the xfree86 development team ;-)
 
 Get a S3 trio or S3 virge card, those are cheap and well-supported.
 
 Good luck,
 
 
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Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why not not installing libc6 coexisting with libc5, as described by Scott
 EllisĀ“ Mini-Howto which is weekly (?) posted on this list. It proved to
 be painless for me and has bash-2.01. It is a rather small step, making
 my system in no way unstable.

This is surely a good idea. But you can't use dselect for this, you can't
tell the testers of linux distributions to install some 'unstable'
packages, whatever that means, before judging the power and actuality of
debian before they publish.

What would you think if we asked the maintainers to have a distribution
between stable and unstable, somewhat like current ? It could be stable,
but actual. Including libc6 _and_ 5, running the best packages of hamm,
but keeping the basics with debian 1.3.1.

When using the whole unstable distribution someone has to be a developer
to accept having to fiddle around with the small bugs every now and then.
But there could be a way to have a slowly improving system which is not
always upgraded by hand.

What I want to say is that when we don't use the capabilities of dselect
together with dftp regularly, its more convenient to buy cd's every half a
year. And when that happens, the debian way of installing software is not
much better than the redhat or suse way, which would be a pity.

Would it be too much work to maintain a current-distribution?

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Re: IEEE POSIX Standards and Linux

1997-09-26 Thread TENCC01.LEWIS01

I can't say debian is posix conformant.  However, I have been
developing c code on hpux, dec osf1, and aix for some years now.  Linux
is as good as any of those.  When it comes to supporting old standards
like bsd, linux is probably a bit better.

To be an actual factual posix system you have to pass a test suite that requires
a bunch of money.  If the test suite is ever put in public domain, linux may get
a posix rating.

jim

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Subject: IEEE POSIX Standards and Linux
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Date:9/25/97 9:23 PM


Dear Sirs,

  I am a Linux user and I need information regarding linux (debian,RedHat,
Slackware) and its conformance to IEEE POSIX standards, specially those
that Microsoft Windows NT is not compliant.

  Best regards,

Mario de Mello B. Neto.


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Re: IEEE POSIX Standards and Linux

1997-09-26 Thread David Wright
On 26 Sep 1997, TENCC01.LEWIS01 wrote:

 To be an actual factual posix system you have to pass a test suite that 
 requires
 a bunch of money.  If the test suite is ever put in public domain, linux may 
 get
 a posix rating.

These are rather old postings but I think they shed some light:

--8

Date: Sat Oct 12 00:27:36 BST 1996
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-announce@lists.debian.org, debian-announce@lists.debian.org
Subject: Debian and POSIX

  DEBIAN AND POSIX

Many Linux distribution creators have published statements about their
committment to the POSIX standard recently. The POSIX standard is a
method of assuring source-code-level compatibility across a number of
different software platforms. It specifies the software interface of a
Unix-like operating system. A program using the standard facilities
should compile properly and run the same way on any system that
complies with the standard.

Linux was already close to POSIX before anyone started working on
actual compliance with the standard. In the past year or so it has
gotten much closer to POSIX, as some Linux distribution creators have
been running POSIX compliance tests and have been feeding the bugs they
find back to the authors. We thank them for this effort.

Until recently it was prohibitively expensive for the Debian GNU/Linux
project to participate in the POSIX effort, because there was a high
fee for copies of the standard, the compliance test software, and
certification by a POSIX lab. Now, the U.S. Government National
Institute of Standards and Technology has released a free version of
their Federal Information Processing Standard 151-2 compliance test
software, which tests for compliance with a superset of POSIX. They
decided to make that software free so that more people would implement
POSIX, and we applaud that decision. We got right to work on Debian's
POSIX compliance. We currently plan to provide the capability for
end-user verification - you can run the POSIX test suite on your own
system if you like.

There will be several POSIX-compliant Linux distributions available under
the GPL. Debian GNU/Linux is the only one that's made by a non-profit
organization rather than a for-profit concern. Our team of 110 volunteer
developers have built a system that's equal to or better than any Linux
distribution you can find.

As always, we invite all organizations, for-profit and non-profit, to
derive their systems and software from Debian GNU/Linux and to
participate in the Debian development effort. In this way, you can
acquire a POSIX-compliant base upon which you can add value.
You don't need our permission to distribute and sell Debian, you need
only comply with the software licenses of the programs it contains.
This offer is even open to the developers of other Linux distributions.

Many Thanks

Bruce Perens
Debian Project Leader

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian + POSIX

Hi Bruce,

Actually, until recently you could only be POSIX compliant by paying
a lot of money. You paid for copies of the standard, you paid for
validation software, and you paid for a POSIX compliance lab to certify
you. So it was a way for the well-funded commercial Linux projects to
differentiate themselves from high-quality but underfunded efforts like
Debian. Now, they will have to use the still-costly X/Open standards
to differentiate themselves.

Just my CHF 0.02:
I suppose that the POSIX-compliance test is relatively cheap[1] in 
comparison
to the XPG4 branding (afterward the branding are allowed to call your 
``Un*x''-clone a ``Unix'' [note the capitalization]).
I don't know how much the POSIX compliance testing actually costs, but
buying the standards is affordable[2] (quoting IEEE 1996 catalog):
   member  list
1003.1b-1993 (POSIX.1, C-API, Realtime extension)  $68.40 $114.00 
1003.2d-1994 (POSIX.2, ShellUtilities, Amendment 1)   $40.08  $68.00
1003.3-1991  (Test methods for measuring conformance to POSIX)
   $22.20  $37.00
[skipping FORTRAN]
9945-1:1990(E) (POSIX.1, C-API f. Sys. Application C)  $54.00  $90.00
9945-2:1993(E) (POSIX.2 Shell and utilities)  $111.00 $185.00
2003.1:1992(Test methods for measuring system conformance to POSIX
part 1: System Integration)$57.60  $96.60

NIST developed a compliance test suite for the U.S. Federal Information
Processing Standard. This is a superset of POSIX. They recently decided
to make it free, so that more people would implement POSIX. We think
that's a great idea, and we got right to work.

Yes, I wholeheartily agree.

[1] extrapolating from the standard prices
[2] at least if you are 

Graphical User Interface

1997-09-26 Thread Tony Koehn
I have never seen linux operate on any kind of graphical interface like
Windows 95.  

What GUI do most people use? 
How easy is it to install?
Someone told me of a web site that had different GUI stuff for linux but I
lost it.  Anyone have such a site?

Tony



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urgent: ppp server slow

1997-09-26 Thread dada
Hi..
 I have an ppp server (whith mgetty)but it don't work fine.

After the user login,if he does:

 ping 192.168.1.1 (the server IP address)

the server reply the ping fine (if I ping the client, when the user is
login, the repply is fine as well).

The problem arose when the user try use one service as see the web page.
If he tries http://192.168.1.1 (to see the server web page), the
conexion is very very slow (but after an *long while*, the client
connect and the user can see the web page).

This problem arose as well whith ftp,mail, each time that the system
must do an connexion (go to an diferent URL,download a file)


Please, can you help me?


Thanks an advance.


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Re: Graphical User Interface

1997-09-26 Thread Dave Cinege
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:59:04 -0500, Tony Koehn wrote:

I have never seen linux operate on any kind of graphical interface like
Windows 95.  

What GUI do most people use? 
How easy is it to install?
Someone told me of a web site that had different GUI stuff for linux but I
lost it.  Anyone have such a site?

While striving to make xwindows and add-on GUI indepdent, it seems no one 
had time to actully make a GUI.

KDE (still quite alpha) is the only things I've yet ot see come close.
But then again as an OS/2 user I have higher standards. As far as I'm 
concerned 95 barelly has a GUI.
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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (Solution!)

1997-09-26 Thread Andy Spiegl
According to Remco Blaakmeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 fsinfo -server localhost:7100
 fslsfonts -server localhost:7100
I tried that and listed a huge list of fonts.  I started X, but
it still couldn't find fixed.

 If xfs is properly configured and running, and if the FontPath in
 XF86Config is set to tcp/localhost:7100, there should really be no
 problem.
I played around with it for quite a while.  And then all of a sudden
it worked.  I couldn't believe it, because all I did was restart xfs.

Yep, guys, I can't believe I was so stupid!  I ran 'mkfontdir', but
didn't restart xfs.  Shame on me.

Anyway: THANKS SO MUCH TO ALL OF YOU GUYS HELPING ME!

Andy.

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Re: Graphical User Interface

1997-09-26 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Tony Koehn wrote:

 I have never seen linux operate on any kind of graphical interface like
 Windows 95.  

You could use fvwm95.  Set up to look a lot like Win95 GUI.

 What GUI do most people use? 

Xfree86,  I would think ... the i386 implementation of Xwindows.  Not sure
about the most popular window manager,  but it's likely fvwm or fvwm2/95.

 How easy is it to install?
In debian?  dpkg -i fvwm-*.deb does it.  Then you can fuggle around a
bit with the .fvwmrc file (VERY easy to understand).  There is also a
debian-wide autoconfigurated menu system that lets an application add
itself to your mouse menus when it's installed;  I don't use it,  so I
don't know anything about it.

 Someone told me of a web site that had different GUI stuff for linux but I
 lost it.  Anyone have such a site?

Well,  KDE looks promising (www.kde.org),  but it's not out of alpha yet.

Will

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2nd X problem after update from REX to BO

1997-09-26 Thread Andy Spiegl
Sorry, guys, the saga goes on.

Now that X is up and running again, there is only one (pretty annoying)
problem:

When placing, moving or resizing windows I don't see the typical
window outlines.  All I see is the changed mouse cursor.

I am using the latest fvwm95 from BO.  And in case it's important,
here is my /etc/X11/XF86Config this time:  (comment lines stripped)

Section Files
   RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
   FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
EndSection

Section Module
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
EndSection

Section Keyboard
   ProtocolStandard
   AutoRepeat   500 5
   XkbRulesxfree86
   XkbModelpc102
   XkbLayout   de
   XkbVariant  nodeadkeys
EndSection

Section Pointer
   ProtocolMouseMan
   Device  /dev/mouse
EndSection

Section Xinput 
EndSection

Section Monitor
   Identifier  MAG-MX17S
   VendorName  MAG
   ModelName   MX17S
   HorizSync   30-64
   VertRefresh 50-120
   Modeline  1280x1024  80.00 1280 1372 1588 1680 1024 1037 1049 1065 
interlace
   Modeline  1152x864   92.00 1152 1212 1372 1490 864 865 875 895
   Modeline  1024x768   85.00 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
   Modeline  800x60050.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
   Modeline  640x48031.50 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521
   Modeline  640x40025.18 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Generic VGA
VendorName  Unknown
BoardName   Unknown
Chipset generic
EndSection

Section Device
   Identifier  ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
   VendorName  ATI
   BoardName   Graphics Pro Turbo
   #VideoRam   4096
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  Accel
   Device  ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
   Monitor MAG-MX17S
   DefaultColorDepth  16

   SubSection Display
  Depth8
  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 1280x1024
  ViewPort 0 0
  Virtual  1280 1024
   EndSubSection

   SubSection Display
  Depth16
  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 1280x1024
  ViewPort 0 0
  Virtual  1280 1024
   EndSubSection

   SubSection Display
  Depth24
  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 1280x1024
  ViewPort 0 0
  Virtual  1280 1024
   EndSubSection

   SubSection Display
  Depth32
  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 1280x1024
  ViewPort 0 0
  Virtual  1280 1024
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  Mono
   Device  ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
   Monitor MAG-MX17S
   SubSection Display
  Depth1
  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 1280x1024
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  VGA2
   Device  ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
   Monitor MAG-MX17S
   SubSection Display
  Depth1
  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 1280x1024
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  VGA16
   Device  ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
   Monitor MAG-MX17S
   SubSection Display
  Depth4
  Modes1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 1280x1024
   EndSubSection
EndSection


Maybe I missed some changes from XFree86 3.2 to 3.3?  Or is it a bug
in fvwm2?

Again, thanks in advance for any pointer,
 Andy.

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Re: Host Unreachable even though it's in the route table

1997-09-26 Thread Ross Gardler


David Wright wrote:

 On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Ross Gardler wrote:

  My ISP has just changed my IP number, gateway and DNS server. I have
  manually changed the routing information in /etc/init.d/network to
  reflect the new numbers yet when I ping the gateway I get Destination
  Host Unreachable. the route -n command gives me the following output...
 
  DestinationGatewayGenmaskFlagsMetric
  RefUseIFace
  195.44.34.0 0.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U0
  0xeth0
  192.168.1.00.0.0.0255.255.255.0U0
  0xeth1
  127.0.0.00.0.0.0255.0.0.0U
  00xlo
  0.0.0.0195.44.34.10.0.0.0UG
  1 0xeth0

 Are you pinging it by number or by name?

By number - my DNS isn't working as I can't get to my Gateway.

 Have you updated resolv.conf
 as well as init.d/network?

Yes.

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Re: 2nd X problem after update from REX to BO

1997-09-26 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On 26 Sep 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote:

 Sorry, guys, the saga goes on.
 
 Now that X is up and running again, there is only one (pretty annoying)
 problem:
 
 When placing, moving or resizing windows I don't see the typical
 window outlines.  All I see is the changed mouse cursor.
 
 I am using the latest fvwm95 from BO.  And in case it's important,
 here is my /etc/X11/XF86Config this time:  (comment lines stripped)

[snip]

 Section Screen
Driver  Accel
Device  ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
Monitor MAG-MX17S
DefaultColorDepth  16

[snip]

Ah, I see. This is a problem I have had before. It is about Fvwm and
16-bit colordepth. You'll have to change a setting in your .fvwmrc or
system.fvwmrc. Try to add this somewhere:

 cut here 
#
# Colors are XOR'ed with this value when windows are moved with
# rubber-band outline.
# This value is 2^32 -1 which should normally be good and change all
# colors to 'negative', i.e. black to white vice versa.

XORvalue 4294967295
 end cut 

Do 'man fvwm95' for more info.

The same problem applies to Fvwm-2, as Fvwm95 is nothing more than Fvwm-2
with a special config file and some nice icons.

Remco


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Netscape Navigator 4.03 (not Communicator)...

1997-09-26 Thread Jason Costomiris
Gang,

I can't seem to locate the NS v4 installer package..  I've got the 
tar file from Netscape waiting in /tmp for the package...  

I looked in contrib, and all that seems to be there is the 3.01
installer

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Re: LaTeX, docstrip, ntg brief.dtx

1997-09-26 Thread Olaf Weber
joost witteveen writes:

 Does anybody know how I should create a brief.cls from a brief.dtx
 with the debian teTeX packages?

Get the contents of the whole ntgclass directory from a CTAN site.
Unpack it, say in /tmp/ntgclass, then cd to that directory.  Then
latex ntgclass.ins
will generate the .cls and .clo files.  Copy the .cls and .clo files
to the correct directory in the texmf tree and run texhash.


 So, I've tried, in a directory that contains only brief.dtx,

 $latex docstrip

Using docstrip directly on a .dtx file won't work for many packages
these days, as the documentation system has changed considerably.

If you latex the .dtx file itself, you get a formatted and (hopefully)
commented source code listing.

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Re: Mouse Troubles....

1997-09-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 In message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes:...
   i have all the X .deb packages and have installed them.but when i ran
   X...i get the error that no mouse was found.  i performed the xf86config
   and answered all the questions and tried various mice protocols but to no
   avail.  i have an MS mouse through a ps/2 port.
 If you have a PS/2 mouse (with a little circular plug), its device name is
 /dev/psaux and you should tell X that it is a PS2 mouse rather than a
 Microsoft mouse.  (The device /dev/psaux is a character device with major
 number 10 and minor number 1.)
 
 The XF86Config file should contain these lines:
 
 Section Pointer
ProtocolPS/2
Device  /dev/psaux
 EndSection
 
If you are running the stock (installation) kernel, you may need to
rebuild the kernel with ps2 support (I don't remember exactly which
kernels did, or didn't, have that support built in). So, if setting things
up, as outlined above, doesn't work, try customizing your kernel to
include ps2 support.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: MC

1997-09-26 Thread Dima
Peter Bodnar wrote:
...
   
   I know this, but learn key don't work correctly...but some weeks ago
  somebody wrote about patch on MC 
  

You have to use terminfo file supplied with mc for xterm.  It then breaks
all ncurses packages -- dselect, ncftp etc.  

(RT mc docs, description of how to modify your terminfo database is there 
somewhere).

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Re: LaTeX, docstrip, ntg brief.dtx

1997-09-26 Thread joost witteveen
 joost witteveen writes:
 
  Does anybody know how I should create a brief.cls from a brief.dtx
  with the debian teTeX packages?
 
 Get the contents of the whole ntgclass directory from a CTAN site.
 Unpack it, say in /tmp/ntgclass, then cd to that directory.  Then
   latex ntgclass.ins

Dankjewel!

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Re: dpkg and dselect

1997-09-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 
 dpkg is at /usr/bin/dpkg; it is part of the base system, and essential, but
 I do not know whether it is actually part of the four base diskettes
 lilo is in /sbin/lilo
 
Since the four base diskettes comprise the base system, they do indeed
contain dpkg. The rescue disk and root.bin do not contain everything on
the base system (far from it, in fact).

Luck,

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Fetchmail/Mail Routing probs

1997-09-26 Thread Joe Stewart
All mail for our domain is placed in a POP account that we access
remotely via fetchmail to distribute locally.  The problem I have is
mainly mailing lists.  Fetchmail does not see the recipients address in
the Received:  header info.  So messages all end up in the calling
user's mailbox.  The Fetchmail docs warn of such problems.  

My questions:

1.)  Do others with this arrangement have this kind of problem.

2.)  If they have worked through this, how?

If there is a simple solution already documented, send me to it.  I've 
read and read with no success.

TIA

Joe

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Re: dpkg and dselect

1997-09-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence Lucier wrote:

 The Rescue/Base installation refuses to install LILO on my system.  

What steps did you take to get here? The installation should be nearly
complete at this point. You made partitions, installed and configured the
kernel and drivers, installed and configured the base system?

So, what were the steps you followed to install LILO, and what error
messages, if any, did you recieve?

 The boot disk refuses to
 boot up because, AFAIK, LILO isn't installed on the harddrive.

The boot disk does not depend on LILO or the hard drive to boot up the
kernel. You will need a valid root file system for the kernel to mount
before the boot up can complete.

  Changed
 the reference in
 SYSLINUX.CFG on the floppy boot disk to:
 
 APPEND root=/dev/fd0 ro
 
No root file system here ;-)

 from
 
 APPEND root=/dev/hda6 ro
 
If this is actually where you installed the base system, what are the
other partitions like? (BTW, LILO will not install on an extended
partition AFAIK)

  When prompted for the root floppy I used the file image floppy
generated by ROOT.BIN..still
 the system won't boot.

This is a compressed image and is typically uncompressed on a RAM disk, so
the arguments passed to the kernel are more complex than what you have
used. When using loadlin for this task the command line looks like:

loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin

If you use APPEND and have used rawrite2.exe to put the root.bin image
onto a floppy, you probably want to change the initrd to =/dev/fd0.
 
 OK, I thought did I, no problem, I will just do a LILO manual install
with the LILO_19-2.deb
 file I grabbed off the Debian site and tweak it from there.  Read the
information on dpkg and
 dselect in the debian and install docs.booted the Rescue floppy
and went into the shell.

So, you can boot the rescue floppy! That's a start. It doesn't, however,
get you to your new system. The rescue floppy runs its own root file
system. You can mount your new system and look at and modify files on that
partition, but you don't have access to any tools not available at
installation time. This means you can't run dpkg/dselect from the rescue
disk.

 From what I can see, neither dpkg or dselect is included (or can be
run from the shell) in the
 base installation setup.  (ARRRH..did I mention yet
that I'm having fun?
 grin).
 
 
 I seemed to have reached a Catch-22 stage here and am no longer sure
how to proceed on
 rectifying this problem...any words of wisdom for this confused
but enthusiastic newbie
 would be greatly appreciated.  :-)
 
Before we can do much more for you, we will need some details of the
installation as well as the failures you experienced.

Luck,

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Re: Netscape Navigator 4.03 (not Communicator)...

1997-09-26 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Fri, Sep 26, 1997 at 10:42:51AM -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote:
: I can't seem to locate the NS v4 installer package..  I've got the 
: tar file from Netscape waiting in /tmp for the package...  
: 
: I looked in contrib, and all that seems to be there is the 3.01
: installer

For those interested, the installer from hamm worked fine with one
minor exception...  I had to write a shell script that set the MOZILLA_HOME
variable to /usr/lib/netscape, then did a /usr/lib/netscape/netscape $*.

Java even works.  This is a libc5 ONLY box, 1.3.1, just installed yesterday.

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netscape4_4.0-5.deb install probs

1997-09-26 Thread Maarten Boekhold
Hi,

I tried installing communicator 4.03 using netscape4_4.0-4.deb, and got 
the following output:

Installing Communicator files...

Installing Communicator Java files...
./ns-install: line 278:  2389 Broken pipe tar -cf - ${i}
  2390 Done| ( cd ${TARGET}/java/classes; tar -xf 
- )
./ns-install: line 278:  2397 Broken pipe tar -cf - ${i}
  2398 Done| ( cd ${TARGET}/java/classes; tar -xf 
- )

Installing additional component files...
./ns-install: line 305:  2408 Broken pipe ${GZIP} -dc ${pkg}
  2409 Done| ( cd ${TARGET}; tar -x${v}f - )

Registering Communicator 4.03...

Now it seems like java doesn't work properly (which doesn't sound too 
surprising). Netscape gives the following error when trying to execute an 
applet:

Unable to start a java applet: Can't find 'java40.jar' in your
CLASSPATH. Read the release notes and install 'java40.jar'
properly before restarting.

Current value of CLASSPATH:
/usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins:/usrs/bin/X11/plugins: \
/home/boekhold/.netscape/plugins

How can I get communicator to look at the proper place 
(/usr/lib/netscape/java/classes)?

Maarten

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Re: Bruce on the internet

1997-09-26 Thread Jim Pick

 Bruce Perens has just arrived at the convention in Aachen.
 His talk will be distributed over the net using RealVideo.
 If you have an RA player handy, switch to the URL as listed
 in the signature and watch Bruce on Saturday, 9/27/97.
 The talk will take place from 13.30 to 14.30 MET (german time)

Cool!  Lots of Linux guys + RMS too.

That's 4:30 in the morning here (Pacific time) - after a Friday
night of partying.  That's pretty brutal.  Live 28.8 RealVideo feeds
from Europe can be pretty choppy at times.  Do you know if they are
going to leave the recorded lectures on the web site after it's over?

Cheers,

 - Jim




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Re: netscape4_4.0-5.deb install probs

1997-09-26 Thread Shaleh
In either your /etc/profile our your own personal profile put:
CLASSPATH=$where_netscape_is:.
export CLASSPATH


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Re: netscape4_4.0-5.deb install probs

1997-09-26 Thread Jim Pick

 In either your /etc/profile our your own personal profile put:
 CLASSPATH=$where_netscape_is:.
 export CLASSPATH

Or,

export MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/lib/netscape

I don't do this though, because every time I access a web page with Java
using Netscape 4.03 it dies with a bus error - but only when I am using 
24 bit colour.  I prefer the bookmark interface in version 4 to version 3,
so I'll live without Java.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Memory Exclusions

1997-09-26 Thread Syd Alsobrook
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StarOffice .deb package

1997-09-26 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi,

sorry if this has already been answered here before but I can not find
the answer in my 30 day archive of debian-user:

I am trying to install StarOffice with the .deb found in hamm/editors.
Installation is failing because this package depends on libc and there
are no libc packages installed in my system. I have libc5 and libc6
but no libc.

Does anyone know how can I work this around?

Thanks,

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Re: Fetchmail/Mail Routing probs

1997-09-26 Thread john
Joe Stewart writes:
 All mail for our domain is placed in a POP account that we access
 remotely via fetchmail to distribute locally.  The problem I have is
 mainly mailing lists.  Fetchmail does not see the recipients address in
 the Received:  header info.  So messages all end up in the calling
 user's mailbox.

 1.)  Do others with this arrangement have this kind of problem.

Yes.  

 2.)  If they have worked through this, how?

I deliver all popmail to a dummy user named postman.  Postman runs
mailagent with a .rules file that roots around in the headers and forwards
stuff appropriately.

 If there is a simple solution already documented, send me to it.  I've
 read and read with no success.

I don't think you could make direct use of my solution as I am presently
using popclient rather than fetchmail.  The principles should be the same,
however.  Also, I am dissatisfied with mailagent and considering switching
to procmail.

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assigning file systems to partitions

1997-09-26 Thread Douglas Potter
I know how to make partitions with cfdisk, but where in the
installation process do I assign a file system to a partition?

For example, suppose I want to put /, /root, /usr, /var on four
separate partitions and the rest of LINUX on a fifth partition.
Where and how do I tell LINUX to do this??

I'm installing Debian 1.3.1 from cdrom and necessary floppies.

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Re: StarOffice .deb package

1997-09-26 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Nevermind. I used dpkg --force-depends -i staroffice3_3.1-3.deb and
could install it. I think this is a bug, though.

Thanks,

E.-

Eloy A. Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: sorry if this has already been answered here before but I can not find
: the answer in my 30 day archive of debian-user:
:
: I am trying to install StarOffice with the .deb found in hamm/editors.
: Installation is failing because this package depends on libc and there
: are no libc packages installed in my system. I have libc5 and libc6
: but no libc.
:
: Does anyone know how can I work this around?

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re:Disapearing /dev/tty0's

1997-09-26 Thread Todd Harper
Sorry for a late reply...

 This is what they look like normally:
  tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450  
  tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A  
  tty03 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16450  
 
 BUT two times now, this has happened when the system boots up:
 
  tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450  
  tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16450 

Well, I recently had a problem where my floppy, 2 serial ports (mouse
and modem), and probably my parallel port too all disappeared.  I 
discovered that my I/O controller card was not pushed down all the way.

Some questions tho:  what are tty0x devices?  Should it be ttySx?
You seem to have two serial ports on irq 3.  Is that causing any 
problems?  Strange that tty01 changed from 16550A to 16450.  Typo?



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[OFF TOPIC] Monitor Specs

1997-09-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
I'm at my wits end trying to find refresh rate specs for an IBM 6317 and
a Compaq 171.  The company web sites are no help.  Does anyone know of
some spec collections on the Internet??

TIA

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Re: assigning file systems to partitions

1997-09-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Douglas Potter wrote:

 I know how to make partitions with cfdisk, but where in the
 installation process do I assign a file system to a partition?
 
 For example, suppose I want to put /, /root, /usr, /var on four
 separate partitions and the rest of LINUX on a fifth partition.
 Where and how do I tell LINUX to do this??

Once you have created all of the partitions you will need (you get to
decide here), through option B off of the main installation menu, your
next offered choice will be to initialize and activate a swap partition
(option C), and eventually you will be offered option F, Initialize a
Linux partition. Within this option you will choose the first partition
(for /) and when it has had a file system created (ext2) you will be
offered the chance to initialize another partition. At each partition
initialization you are offered a mount point for that partitions (usually
the first choice is for /)

In general the installation process will lead you through the proper
next actions taking things in the proper order to develop the
installation in successful fashion. Alternative options are usually all
that is needed to weave you way through the installation. Under special
circumstances there are good reasons to skip around the menu. All options
are available at any time.

Luck,

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Re: Netscape Navigator 4.03 (not Communicator)...

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence
Jason Costomiris wrote:
 
 On Fri, Sep 26, 1997 at 10:42:51AM -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote:
 : I can't seem to locate the NS v4 installer package..  I've got the
 : tar file from Netscape waiting in /tmp for the package...
 :
 : I looked in contrib, and all that seems to be there is the 3.01
 : installer
 
 For those interested, the installer from hamm worked fine with one
 minor exception...  I had to write a shell script that set the MOZILLA_HOME
 variable to /usr/lib/netscape, then did a /usr/lib/netscape/netscape $*.

I just type netscape to run it.  Why you run it with $*?

Lawrence


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Re: netscape4_4.0-5.deb install probs

1997-09-26 Thread Maarten Boekhold
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

 
  In either your /etc/profile our your own personal profile put:
  CLASSPATH=$where_netscape_is:.
  export CLASSPATH
 
 Or,
 
 export MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/lib/netscape
 
 I don't do this though, because every time I access a web page with Java
 using Netscape 4.03 it dies with a bus error - but only when I am using 
 24 bit colour.  I prefer the bookmark interface in version 4 to version 3,
 so I'll live without Java.

There are more problems with it I found out. It also isn't fixed for use 
of bash2.0, so helper apps don't start up well. I fixed this myself by 
ripping the postinst script from netscape 3 installer and doin' some 
search-and-replace.

Should I file a bug-report on this you think?

btw. I fixed the handling of java by starting up with 
MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/lib/netscape; netscape  in my .steprc, but I suspect 
this can be fixed too by the search-and-replaces that are in the version 
3 postinst script.

Maarten

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Re: StarOffice .deb package

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence
Eloy A. Paris wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 sorry if this has already been answered here before but I can not find
 the answer in my 30 day archive of debian-user:
 
 I am trying to install StarOffice with the .deb found in hamm/editors.
 Installation is failing because this package depends on libc and there
 are no libc packages installed in my system. I have libc5 and libc6
 but no libc.
 
 Does anyone know how can I work this around?

???  I installed 24hrs ago and don't have this problem.

Lawrence


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Re: [OFF TOPIC] Monitor Specs

1997-09-26 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 I'm at my wits end trying to find refresh rate specs for an IBM 6317 and
 a Compaq 171.  The company web sites are no help.  Does anyone know of
 some spec collections on the Internet??

Yup, here's a monitor specs database: 

 http://www.Nashville.Net/~griffin/monitor.html

They don't have the IBM 6317 but they do have the Compaq 171:

 Hor. 30-58 KHz, Ver. 50-100 Hz, Bandwidth 75MHz

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Re: assigning file systems to partitions

1997-09-26 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 I know how to make partitions with cfdisk, but where in the
 installation process do I assign a file system to a partition?
 
 For example, suppose I want to put /, /root, /usr, /var on four
 separate partitions and the rest of LINUX on a fifth partition.
 Where and how do I tell LINUX to do this??
 
 I'm installing Debian 1.3.1 from cdrom and necessary floppies.

While installing, after partitioning with cfdisk, at some point you will
be asked where to mount each of your partitions (quite soon I guess).
You can change that at any time yourself, all these data are in /etc/fstab
file which defines the order of mounting and mount points for each
partition.

Hope this helps.

Alex Y.

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Re: bug ?: Disappearing DOS partitions

1997-09-26 Thread G. Crimp
On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Lazaro Salem wrote:

 If you haven't fixed your problem, I can help you. Just send us what
 your able to see from DOS (with DOS FDISK) and/or from linux with 
 cfdisk and with fdisk if you have it on your system (they do not present
 the same information as far as I remember).

Hi,

Thanks for offering to help.  Sorry it took me so long to reply.  
I'm sending you the information you asked for, but first I think I should 
reexplain my problem.  I don't I did a very good job of it in my first post.

After having added partitions to my hard disk using Linux fdisk, 
and successfully installing Linux.  I was able to boot to DOS and see, 
consult, write to, and otherwise use two logical disks on the extended 
partition.  I could come back to Linux and see all my DOS disks (one a 
primary partition and two logical disks).  Then one day, booting to DOS, 
the logical DOS drives were no longer there.  Couldn't see 'em, couldn't 
use 'em, autoexec.bat couldn't find 'em.  If I booted back to Linux, 
however, there they are.  I can mount them and do anything one would 
expect to do with a mounted file system.  But not under DOS.  As you will 
see in the following partition table reports, DOS seems to have lumped 
the two logical disks and the Linux logical partitions into one big 
extended non-DOS partition.

Here goes, the partition table as reported by Linux fdisk, cfdisk 
(Linux), and DOS fdisk.

--- Begin transcript -
fdisk (Linux)


Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 786 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *11   65   131008+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
 phys=(259, 15, 63) logical=(64, 63, 63)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(259, 15, 63) should be (259, 63, 63)
/dev/hda2  261   66  473   8215205  Extended
Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
 phys=(260, 0, 1) logical=(65, 0, 1)
Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
 phys=(1023, 15, 63) logical=(472, 31, 63)
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(1023, 15, 63) should be (1023, 63, 63)
/dev/hda5  261   66  130   131008+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
/dev/hda6  521  131  195   131008+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
/dev/hda7  781  196  465   542776+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda8 1024  465  47316600+  82  Linux swap




cfdisk 0.8d BETA (2GB)
Disk Drive: /dev/hda
   Heads: 64   Sectors per Track: 63   Cylinders: 786
NameFlags Part Type  FS Type  Size (MB)
--
/dev/hda1   Boot  PrimaryDOS 16-bit =32Mb   127.97
/dev/hda5 LogicalDOS 16-bit =32Mb   127.97
/dev/hda6 LogicalDOS 16-bit =32Mb   127.97
/dev/hda7 LogicalLinux   530.09*
/dev/hda8 LogicalLinux Swap   16.25*
  Pri/LogFree Space  617.21*
***

DOS fdisk

Partition   Flag  Type  Volume NameMb   SystemUsed
C:1 A PRI DOS  128  FAT16 8%
  2   EXT DOS  80252%

  Total disk space : 1545  Mb (1 Mb = 1 048 576 bytes)

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Hope this helps you to help me get back my logical DOS drives.  
Thanks again.

Gerald Crimp


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Re: Lilo on dual boot system with reformatting

1997-09-26 Thread Carey Evans
Subhi S Hashwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just got Debian linux on CD and following the advice of friends I
 partitioned my Windows 95 Harrdisk to 2 partitions FAT32 for W95 and
 un-partitioned for linux. My Question is now how can I install LILO on the
 boot sector of the FAT32 partition to make it possible to choose the boot
 system to use at the startup.

You can put LILO on your Linux partition or the drive's master boot
record.  Leave your Win95 partition alone.  It's a while since I
installed Debian, but I think the prompts are pretty self-explanatory
as to what you want to do, after you've installed the base disks.

BTW, you will probably want to make another small partition (double
the amount of your memory should be plenty) for swap space.  Linux
doesn't dynamically allocate it like Win95 (which is a Good Thing).

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