Problems installing

1997-10-20 Thread George Bonser
I am doing a clean install on a 486 w/20Meg and Buslogic SCSI w/3 400MB drives.
Booting from floppy (resc1440.bin) looks ok until it tries to mount the RAMDISK:

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
invalid compressed format (err=2) [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT
0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid-0,umask=022,bmap]
[me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,ts=0,ls=0]
Transaction block size=512
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00

Any ideas?

I installed 1.3 after it first came out on this machine without any problems. I
am now using the latest disks in disks-i386.

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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread George Bonser

There was an effort to outline a configuration (administration) tool on
debian-admintool, but the discussion was very hot and then cooled down to
silence.

However, the goal was much higher than expanding the install menu.

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Still, it would be nice to run the installation menu from hard disk to do
things as change mount points for partitions, changing network stuff (hostname,
IP address, netmask, whatever.)


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RE: Problems installing

1997-10-20 Thread George Bonser

FWIW, If I select ramdisk0 install instead of the default, it seems to come up
OK using the root diskette.





On 19-Oct-97 George Bonser wrote:
I am doing a clean install on a 486 w/20Meg and Buslogic SCSI w/3 400MB
drives.
Booting from floppy (resc1440.bin) looks ok until it tries to mount the
RAMDISK:

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
invalid compressed format (err=2) [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT
0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid-0,umask=022,bmap]
[me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,ts=0,ls=0]
Transaction block size=512
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00

Any ideas?

I installed 1.3 after it first came out on this machine without any problems.
I
am now using the latest disks in disks-i386.

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Re: PerfectBACKUP now free

1997-10-20 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, George Bonser wrote:

 I just noticed that a FREE Linux version of PerfectBACKUP is now available. It
 is not crippled and does not expire.
 
 Maybe someone could build a loader script like the one for Netscape?
 
 Have a look at www.unisrc.com

Will this work with lesstif, or is motif required?


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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread Stuart Krivis
At 04:37 PM 10/19/1997 -0700, George Bonser wrote:

There was an effort to outline a configuration (administration) tool on
debian-admintool, but the discussion was very hot and then cooled down to
silence.

However, the goal was much higher than expanding the install menu.


Still, it would be nice to run the installation menu from hard disk to do
things as change mount points for partitions, changing network stuff
(hostname,
IP address, netmask, whatever.)

Exactly. Lisa also lets you load kernel modules and configure hardware as
well.

For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net   ---
network unreachable

Now I have to figure out why it doesn't work and that's not my idea of fun.
:-) I suppose I should really learn more about the system, but I'd rather
not have to dive in right away. 

So now I guess we're at the point of arguing about making things easy for
the user versus the user learning how to use the system. 

Should there be debian for dummies? 


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malicious people subscribing others

1997-10-20 Thread Pete Templin

Hello,

It has come to my attention that individuals are using the open
architecture of the debian mailing lists to subscribe other individuals.
The most recent incident which has come to my attention involves a
victimized recipient who has several email addresses, some of which
forward to other mailboxes.  This person's name appears on numerous (about
27) of the debian mailing lists; this list of lists is identical to the
last time the person was maliciously added to the lists.

I ask that anyone involved in this activity cease immediately.
Anyone who has any information about said actions is asked to contact me
by any means desired.  I don't think the Debian project wants to increase
its membership (nor its hate list) by actively subscribing unwishing
people to its mailing lists, nor do I think that the Debian project wants
extra load to be placed on its donated resources.

I thank you for your cooperation with this matter.

Pete

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PPP [was Re: new debian user questions]

1997-10-20 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:

 For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
 minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
 LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net   ---
 network unreachable

cua1 is bad, don't use it.  Not good with file locking.  Use ttyS1.

 Now I have to figure out why it doesn't work and that's not my idea of fun.
 :-) I suppose I should really learn more about the system, but I'd rather
 not have to dive in right away. 

Edit /etc/ppp.chatscript and /etc/resolv.conf.  Chatscript is strait
forward, read the man page for resolv.conf.

 So now I guess we're at the point of arguing about making things easy for
 the user versus the user learning how to use the system. 

 Should there be debian for dummies? 

It's a thought, or maybe just a debian installation for dummies.  Couple
page web document would do.  Any volunteers (this shouldn't be something
an experienced user should do).

Brandon

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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread A. M. Varon
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:

 For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
 minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
 LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net   ---
 network unreachable

Hi Stuart,

I have used LISA in the caldera linux distribution. 

IMHO, There is one tiny problem with LISA. It shields you the nitty
gritty internal works of linux. And... you can only use lisa on a
caldera. 

Example, to change the hostname, you could do that with lisa. But the
truth is, you could easily edit /etc/HOSTNAME and it would give you the
same effect. Please note that this apply not only to linux but other
variants of unix as well. So knowing this is a very big advantage for you. 

Although it would be a bit hard to learn linux system administration at
first, it would really pay off in the long run. If you have any questions,
search for it in the web or ask it here.

regards, 

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Re: PPP [was Re: new debian user questions]

1997-10-20 Thread Matt Thompson
  For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
  minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
  LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net   ---
  network unreachable
 
 cua1 is bad, don't use it.  Not good with file locking.  Use ttyS1.
 
  Now I have to figure out why it doesn't work and that's not my idea of fun.
  :-) I suppose I should really learn more about the system, but I'd rather
  not have to dive in right away. 
 
 Edit /etc/ppp.chatscript and /etc/resolv.conf.  Chatscript is strait
 forward, read the man page for resolv.conf.
 
  So now I guess we're at the point of arguing about making things easy for
  the user versus the user learning how to use the system. 
 
  Should there be debian for dummies? 
 
 It's a thought, or maybe just a debian installation for dummies.  Couple
 page web document would do.  Any volunteers (this shouldn't be something
 an experienced user should do).

I just do it from CD and it's a piece of cake (I'm *not* super experienced
and have broken my system more than once, so I'm familiar with the
installation process. :) ).  Would you want one that was more for someone
doing it from windoze with a pile of floppies, a blank partition and an
ISP?  Or a CD installation too?  I got my CD from Iconnect.  Are the
different CD pressings similiar? Identical? Not at all the same?

I know, a lot of questions, but I could give it my best effort if I knew
what was wanted and see what everyone thinks.

lemme know...:)
matty

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Problem with LaTeX package?

1997-10-20 Thread Britton

When I invoke lates on a .tex source file, like so

   $ latex usrguide.tex

I get 

   This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.1)
   I can't find the default format file!

Also, when I try to run LaTeX from LyX, I get

   Missing log file: newfile.log

Am I doing something wrong?  Could this be a hold-over bug from the old
(rumored to be flaed) LaTeX package?  Any help greatly appreciate.


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Re: PPP [was Re: new debian user questions]

1997-10-20 Thread Cameron Lowe
At 10:49 PM 19/10/97 -0400, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Stuart Krivis wrote:

 For example, I can get a new Caldera install up and on the net within
 minutes. Debian was not so accommodating. No modem. No modemtool app. No
 LISA. Ok, MAKEDEV cua1. Dial... connected... ping junior.apk.net   ---
 network unreachable

cua1 is bad, don't use it.  Not good with file locking.  Use ttyS1.

 Now I have to figure out why it doesn't work and that's not my idea of fun.
 :-) I suppose I should really learn more about the system, but I'd rather
 not have to dive in right away. 

Edit /etc/ppp.chatscript and /etc/resolv.conf.  Chatscript is strait
forward, read the man page for resolv.conf.

 So now I guess we're at the point of arguing about making things easy for
 the user versus the user learning how to use the system. 

 Should there be debian for dummies? 

It's a thought, or maybe just a debian installation for dummies.  Couple
page web document would do.  Any volunteers (this shouldn't be something
an experienced user should do).

There is some Debian documentation at http://www.linuxpress.com/001001.htm.
There is a book which can be bought or the online version which is free.

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RE: Problems installing--SOLVED sorta

1997-10-20 Thread George Bonser

Ok. I had some bad RAM in the system.  Put the old 1MEG simms back in and it
installed fine.

Now I have a new problem.  When dselect runs the first time and I try to
install using the FTP method I get:

Net:FTP:Unexpected EOF on command channel at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup
line 137 

FTP ERROR

and it kicks me back out of the FTP setup to the main menu.



On 19-Oct-97 George Bonser wrote:
I am doing a clean install on a 486 w/20Meg and Buslogic SCSI w/3 400MB
drives.
Booting from floppy (resc1440.bin) looks ok until it tries to mount the
RAMDISK:

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
invalid compressed format (err=2) [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT
0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid-0,umask=022,bmap]
[me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,ts=0,ls=0]
Transaction block size=512
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00

Any ideas?

I installed 1.3 after it first came out on this machine without any problems.
I
am now using the latest disks in disks-i386.

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xlib6_3.3-4.deb

1997-10-20 Thread Rob MacWilliams
I just did a dselect of stable on my local mirror and it grabbed 
xlib6_3.3-4.deb.  Is this a 
libc6 package, or is the version number confusing?  I'm still running an 
entirely bo system 
right now.

Thanks

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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread George Bonser

On 20-Oct-97 A. M. Varon wrote:

Example, to change the hostname, you could do that with lisa. But the
truth is, you could easily edit /etc/HOSTNAME and it would give you the
same effect. Please note that this apply not only to linux but other
variants of unix as well. So knowing this is a very big advantage for you. 

Although it would be a bit hard to learn linux system administration at
first, it would really pay off in the long run. If you have any questions,
search for it in the web or ask it here.

That is just the point. There are people that WANT and NEED to be shielded from
the nitty-gritty details of Unix.  That is the entire point of develpoing tools
and scripts ... so you don't HAVE to remember all the little tweaks that need
to be done to change things.  If your hobby is administration of the system,
fine, but there are some folks out there that get their most enjoyment out of
USING it.  Solaris has administrative GUI's, so does HP-UX. It saves the admin
time. I have scripts for new users at work, all I need to do is add them to the
mail alias and a prototype passwd file and create a home directory.  A script
moves the dot-files, makes the NIS maps, does the shadow thing, etc.  The more
operations that you need to perform, the better your chances of making a
mistake or forgetting something.

I, for one, would much rather have some sort of a tool so I can get back to
enjoying my system and not spend as much time configuring it.


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XFree86 setup!!!

1997-10-20 Thread Shaul Peleg
I have tried numerous installations of X and I can't get the monitor to
display anything when I 'xinit'. I have a Jaton Video-67P card (don't
ask!) based on the Trident Providia 9685 chipset. I used the SVGA
base... and I tried using both of the Jaton drivers (neither for the
67P) and Trident 96xx drivers. My monitor settings were for regular
640x400 VGA (I tried 800x600 too). I have tried numerous combinations. I
have looked at the XFConfig file ... BTW I installed afterstep. I am new
at this... please help. It took me hours to figure out how to get the
pointer moving!!! Thanks all. -sp


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Re: XFree86 setup!!!

1997-10-20 Thread Will Lowe
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Shaul Peleg wrote:

 I have tried numerous installations of X and I can't get the monitor to
 display anything when I 'xinit'. I have a Jaton Video-67P card (don't
 ask!) based on the Trident Providia 9685 chipset. I used the SVGA
 base... and I tried using both of the Jaton drivers (neither for the
 67P) and Trident 96xx drivers. My monitor settings were for regular
 640x400 VGA (I tried 800x600 too). I have tried numerous combinations. I
 have looked at the XFConfig file ... BTW I installed afterstep. I am new
 at this... please help. It took me hours to figure out how to get the
 pointer moving!!! Thanks all. -sp

Hmm,  you should be using startx,  not xinit --- although startx is
essentially a wrapper which calls xinit with the proper arguments.  Try
startx and let us know what happens.
Will

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Re: xlib6_3.3-4.deb

1997-10-20 Thread Rob MacWilliams
 I just did a dselect of stable on my local mirror and it grabbed 
 xlib6_3.3-4.deb.  Is this a 
 libc6 package, or is the version number confusing?  I'm still running an 
 entirely bo system 
 right now.
 
 Thanks
 
 Rob MacWilliams
 

I hate to follow up my own posts, but I should apoligize for my brain fade.  
xlib6 refers to the 
version of X, not libc. 

Sorry for the waste of bandwidth.

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Re: XFree86 setup!!!

1997-10-20 Thread Shaul Peleg
Ok... I ran 'startx' and this time the bottom (lets say) 1/4 of the screen
flashed white for a second... and that was it. I mean, the HD gets accessed here
and there, but obviously the display is no good. Even if the driver is not the
*exact* one, shouldn't something come up, even garbled? The setup program works
fine... hmmm... also - is it true that the monitor can get screwed up if I let 
it
stay like that for too long? Thanks for your help!

Will Lowe wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Shaul Peleg wrote:

  I have tried numerous installations of X and I can't get the monitor to
  display anything when I 'xinit'. I have a Jaton Video-67P card (don't
  ask!) based on the Trident Providia 9685 chipset. I used the SVGA
  base... and I tried using both of the Jaton drivers (neither for the
  67P) and Trident 96xx drivers. My monitor settings were for regular
  640x400 VGA (I tried 800x600 too). I have tried numerous combinations. I
  have looked at the XFConfig file ... BTW I installed afterstep. I am new
  at this... please help. It took me hours to figure out how to get the
  pointer moving!!! Thanks all. -sp

 Hmm,  you should be using startx,  not xinit --- although startx is
 essentially a wrapper which calls xinit with the proper arguments.  Try
 startx and let us know what happens.
 Will

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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-20 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
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: Let me say that the awe driver package works just fine with a SB AWE32.
: Don`t know about the 64 yet. Any people tried?

I would suspect that it would work fine with the 64 as well. AFAIK, the
AWE64 is the same as the 32, except for the extra 32 voices. Oh, and the
extra 32 voices are done in software, not hardware, so unless the driver
has support coded specifically for those 32 voices (which implies tying
up the CPU to do this), you'll find you're stuck with the first 32
anyway.

Fscking Windoze hardware.. (generic rant :)

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Re: XFree86 setup!!!

1997-10-20 Thread Will Lowe
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Shaul Peleg wrote:

 Ok... I ran 'startx' and this time the bottom (lets say) 1/4 of the screen
 flashed white for a second... and that was it. I mean, the HD gets accessed 
 here
 and there, but obviously the display is no good. Even if the driver is not the
 *exact* one, shouldn't something come up, even garbled? The setup program 
 works

Well,  I'd recommend starting out using the svga or vga servers until you
at least get things working.  I don't know much about your chipset but all
cards should be vga-capable.  Get one of these working at 640x480,  and
you'll have a place to start.

 fine... hmmm... also - is it true that the monitor can get screwed up if I 
 let it
 stay like that for too long? Thanks for your help!
Well,  as far as I understand it,  it's dangerous mainly if you're running
it at modes it can't handle,  etc ... assuming you're using standard ones,
you're probably ok (but I don't guaruntee anything personally :) ).

Will


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Re: XFree86 setup!!!

1997-10-20 Thread Shaul Peleg
Ok... I changed the server to XF_VGA16 and then I noticed that startx itself was
pointing to xinitrc and xserverrc in /usr/X11/ - shouldn't it be reading it from
/etc/X11? I have a feeling that the setup program won't work here because I 
screwed
something up and will have to do it all by hand (not so bad). Thanks! -sp

Will Lowe wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Shaul Peleg wrote:

  Ok... I ran 'startx' and this time the bottom (lets say) 1/4 of the screen
  flashed white for a second... and that was it. I mean, the HD gets accessed 
  here
  and there, but obviously the display is no good. Even if the driver is not 
  the
  *exact* one, shouldn't something come up, even garbled? The setup program 
  works

 Well,  I'd recommend starting out using the svga or vga servers until you
 at least get things working.  I don't know much about your chipset but all
 cards should be vga-capable.  Get one of these working at 640x480,  and
 you'll have a place to start.

  fine... hmmm... also - is it true that the monitor can get screwed up if I 
  let it
  stay like that for too long? Thanks for your help!
 Well,  as far as I understand it,  it's dangerous mainly if you're running
 it at modes it can't handle,  etc ... assuming you're using standard ones,
 you're probably ok (but I don't guaruntee anything personally :) ).

 Will

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Re: Problem with dhcpd/ip_masq

1997-10-20 Thread Carey Evans
Michael Legart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There's a program in win95 called winipcfg, which shows what the computer
 have recived from a dhcp server. BUT in the field which should be showing
 193.162.146.9 (a dns server) is just empty...

How are you setting the DNS server?  The Name Server option in DHCP
refers to something different.

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Visio Like Program

1997-10-20 Thread Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe
Hi

Is there any debianized Visio like program ?

Thanks

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Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Bill Moran
Hi 

I am having problems with my Toshiba laptop 410CS. Resume mode doesn't
work --- the machine just freezes.

Any ideas

Thanks



Bill


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modules/modutils (Re: Dselect: Obsolete packages really obsolete?)

1997-10-20 Thread jdassen
On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 11:19:16AM +0200, Gernot Bauer wrote:
 Deselect tells me that there are obsolete packages in my debian system (I
 use stable contrib non-free bo). One of the obsolete packages is the
 modules-package. When I try to remove it, Debian tells me that I use a
 modular kernal and the modules-package cant be removed...
 
 Why is it listed as obsolete then?

The upstream author decided to rename the package to modutils, which is
what the newer Debian package uses too.

Replacing modules by modutils will require some tricky dpkg stuff. Wichert?

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Re: 2.0.31 source

1997-10-20 Thread Joost Kooij
On 19 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 08:43:07PM +0200, Joost Kooij wrote:
  
  
  On Sun, 19 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I downloaded the .31 kernel and tried to do a make menuconfig and got the
   following:
   
   rm -f include/asm
   ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
   make -C scripts/lxdialog all
   make[1]: Entering directory 
   /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.31/scripts/lxdialog'
   gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   
   -c
   lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
   In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
   dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
   make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
   make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.31/scripts/lxdialog'
   make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
  
  Looks like a curses problem. Could you get `make config` to work? and
  `make xconfig`?
 
 Do you have installed ncurses3.4-dev ?

I tried this yesterday and it indeed gives that error, probably because I
have ncurses3.4-dev installed.

Apparently `make menuconfig` breaks because it is confused about the new
headers. It is very simple to fix; just do:

  cd /usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog
  make clean all
  cd /usr/src/linux
  make menuconfig

and it will work fine again. 

Hope this helps you,

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Re: Help! Any presentation graphics program in Debian Linux?

1997-10-20 Thread tibor simko
 WZ == W Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

WZ preparing small presentation about application of Linux in
WZ digital signal processing. I wouldn't like to have to present
WZ transparencies prepared with M$ PowerPoint...

have a look at root.cern.ch: root does look like to be suitable well
for presentations.  it's not debianised, but compiles cleanly under bo
system.

a note: i like to use gnuplot+latex+foiltex+color to do my
transparencies, anyway...

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RE: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Ted Harding

On 20-Oct-97 Bill Moran wrote:

I am having problems with my Toshiba laptop 410CS. Resume mode doesn't
work --- the machine just freezes.

Bill

I'm not familiar with Toshibas, but many laptops have a BIOS setup option
to activate Advanced Power Management. Turn this off and use at most
basic power management. This may solve the problem (as it has done on a
different laptop that I know of). You will have to put up with the disks
spinning up every so often when the system syncs.

Best wishes,
Ted.

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Re: Visio Like Program

1997-10-20 Thread Thomas Baetzler
Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote:
:Is there any debianized Visio like program ?

Not as such, but you may want to try XFig, a structured drawing program.

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Re: Problem with LaTeX package?

1997-10-20 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida

Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

When I invoke lates on a .tex source file, like so

   $ latex usrguide.tex

I get 

   This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.1)
   I can't find the default format file!

You do not have latex.fmt installed!

You must search for the latex.ltx file and then run initex on it. 

initex latex.ltx and in the end \dump

and then copy the latex.fmt file to the ... /texmf/ini directory.

I hope this help.


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Pine and fvwm under hamm

1997-10-20 Thread Matt Thompson
since i updated to hamm, two odd things are happening.  one is that often
when i send a message from Pine, it hangs for 20-30 seconds before saying
'message sent and copied to sent mail'.  just in case there was a problem
with smail, or my isp's mail server (mail.oz.net), i sent some mail from
netscape, without incident.  obviously this can be a bit of a pain if i
have a lot of email to send. :)

with fvwm2 (i assume this is where the issue lies) when i try to drag a
window across desktops, there is some very strange activity.  the window
i'm dragging flickers around a lot, and the pager doesn't show that it's
moving until i let go.  this isn't a problem really, just something i
noticed.

btw, since these are likely hamm issues, should i be sending them here or
to another list?

thanks
matty

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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread Stuart Krivis
At 09:19 PM 10/19/1997 -0700, George Bonser wrote:

On 20-Oct-97 A. M. Varon wrote:

Example, to change the hostname, you could do that with lisa. But the
truth is, you could easily edit /etc/HOSTNAME and it would give you the
same effect. Please note that this apply not only to linux but other
variants of unix as well. So knowing this is a very big advantage for you. 

Although it would be a bit hard to learn linux system administration at
first, it would really pay off in the long run. If you have any questions,
search for it in the web or ask it here.

That is just the point. There are people that WANT and NEED to be shielded
from
the nitty-gritty details of Unix.  That is the entire point of develpoing
tools
and scripts ... so you don't HAVE to remember all the little tweaks that need
to be done to change things.  If your hobby is administration of the system,
fine, but there are some folks out there that get their most enjoyment out of
USING it.  Solaris has administrative GUI's, so does HP-UX. It saves the
admin
time. I have scripts for new users at work, all I need to do is add them
to the
mail alias and a prototype passwd file and create a home directory.  A script
moves the dot-files, makes the NIS maps, does the shadow thing, etc.  The
more
operations that you need to perform, the better your chances of making a
mistake or forgetting something.

I, for one, would much rather have some sort of a tool so I can get back to
enjoying my system and not spend as much time configuring it.


I totally agree. I find using Linux a lot of fun. I've been able to do a
lot of things with Caldera and learn system administration at a slower pace
(or maybe not at all). Maybe it would be better for me to use soemthing
without the crutches that Caldera has, but it certainly can be frustrating.

As for admin tools... I prefer to have a choice. NT does not give you this
choice. You are locked-in to doing it their way. Caldera gives me a choice.
I can use the tools or go right to the dotfile or resource file and change
things.

I am gradually doing more and more at the CLI. It's certainly faster to
type vi /etc/fstab and add an entry. However, I don't do it often enough
that I remember the syntax for all the entries. This is where LISA is
handy. LISA also lets me see what a proper entry looks like. That can be a
great learning aid.

Tools like LISA are not IMO against the philosophy of debian. Dselect is a
much more powerful tool than other distributions have. It does a lot of the
work for you. The shortcomings of rpm are why I am looking into debian.
Upgrading a Redhat-based system is a mess. Dselect makes it an easy process.

I suspect I'll keep using Caldera and just try to learn as much as I can so
I can move to debian eventually. I can see that debian will allow me more
room to grow in the future.



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Re: modules/modutils (Re: Dselect: Obsolete packages really obsolete?)

1997-10-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman \(SBH\)

On Mon, Oct 20, 1997 at 09:54:25AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Replacing modules by modutils will require some tricky dpkg stuff. Wichert?

Actually it should be automic now: when you install modutils it replaces
all of modules' files.dpkg will notice that and mark modules as removed.

Gernot, if this does not work, can you tell me what version of modules
you have installed?

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Re: Pine and fvwm under hamm

1997-10-20 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

 since i updated to hamm, two odd things are happening.  one is that often
 when i send a message from Pine, it hangs for 20-30 seconds before saying
 'message sent and copied to sent mail'.  just in case there was a problem
 with smail, or my isp's mail server (mail.oz.net), i sent some mail from
 netscape, without incident.  obviously this can be a bit of a pain if i
 have a lot of email to send. :)

In .pinerc:
# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
smtp-server=

point it to your localhost.

 with fvwm2 (i assume this is where the issue lies) when i try to drag a
 window across desktops, there is some very strange activity.  the window
 i'm dragging flickers around a lot, and the pager doesn't show that it's
 moving until i let go.  this isn't a problem really, just something i
 noticed.

Doesn't sound like a problem, just a feature request.  You could try the
other window managers (fvwm2 isn't the only one).

 btw, since these are likely hamm issues, should i be sending them here or
 to another list?

These are pretty close to user questions.  If you start asking some harder
ones, a) some of us subscribe to debian-devel and debian-user so we can
try to answer your questions, and b) someone will let you know.

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[PPP] pon and plog not working

1997-10-20 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

A friend of mine has installed debian on his laptop.  I tried running pon.
It runs without complaining, but doesn't do anything much.  The modem
doesn't make any of the usual noises associated with an attempt to
connect.  When I do plog, it comes up blank.  When I do a ps, it seems
that pon has indeed started up a couple of processes.  These sit there for
a few minutes and then die.  Other than this I have no idea what is going
on.  Certainly plog is no help.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mark.


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X-Windows and Bash Settings

1997-10-20 Thread Jason Bauer
I've got Debian Linux 1.3 using bash for a shell. When I go into X-Windows
(Afterstep win. manager) I lose all of my aliases and other settings that
get run in my .bash-profile when I login, and when i quit X the settings are
back to how they should be. Is this just a bug or am I doing something
wrong?


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Re: XFree86 setup!!!

1997-10-20 Thread Will Lowe
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Shaul Peleg wrote:

 Ok... I changed the server to XF_VGA16 and then I noticed that startx itself 
 was
 pointing to xinitrc and xserverrc in /usr/X11/ - shouldn't it be reading it 
 from
 /etc/X11? I have a feeling that the setup program won't work here because I 
 screwed
 something up and will have to do it all by hand (not so bad). Thanks! -sp

I've attached the startx script from my system.  It goes in
/usr/X11R6/bin.  A few notes:

1) /usr/X11R6/bin/X should be a symlink (made via ln -s) to the server you
want to use -- in this case XF86_VGA16.

2) You'll find that some files in /etc/X11/ and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 are
just symlinks to each other,  so that it doesn't matter which one you're
reading.

Will

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#!/bin/sh

# $XConsortium: startx.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:29 rws Exp $
# $XFree86: xc/programs/xinit/startx.cpp,v 3.0 1994/05/22 00:02:28 dawes Exp $
# 
# This is just a sample implementation of a slightly less primitive 
# interface than xinit.  It looks for user .xinitrc and .xserverrc
# files, then system xinitrc and xserverrc files, else lets xinit choose
# its default.  The system xinitrc should probably do things like check
# for .Xresources files and merge them in, startup up a window manager,
# and pop a clock and serveral xterms.
#
# Site administrators are STRONGLY urged to write nicer versions.
# 



userclientrc=$HOME/.xinitrc
userserverrc=$HOME/.xserverrc
sysclientrc=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc
sysserverrc=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc
clientargs=
serverargs=






if [ -f $userclientrc ]; then
clientargs=$userclientrc
else if [ -f $sysclientrc ]; then
clientargs=$sysclientrc
fi
fi




if [ -f $userserverrc ]; then
serverargs=$userserverrc
else if [ -f $sysserverrc ]; then
serverargs=$sysserverrc
fi
fi

display=:0
whoseargs=client
while [ x$1 != x ]; do
case $1 in
/''*|\.*)   if [ $whoseargs = client ]; then
clientargs=$1
else
serverargs=$1
fi ;;
--) whoseargs=server ;;
*)  if [ $whoseargs = client ]; then
clientargs=$clientargs $1
else
serverargs=$serverargs $1
case $1 in 
:[0-9])  display=$1 ;;
esac
fi ;;
esac
shift
done

serverargs=$serverargs -auth $HOME/.Xauthority
xauth add $display . `mcookie`

xinit $clientargs -- $serverargs














Re: Problem with dhcpd/ip_masq

1997-10-20 Thread Al Youngwerth
At 05:30 PM 10/19/97 +0200, Michael Legart wrote:
Hi!

I have a little problem with ip_masq.

It's allmost working ... clients on the network can access hosts outside
the LAN if they type the hosts ip instead of the domainname. I can access
hosts via. domainnames from my linux box. I use dhcpd to send info about
ip-number, default gateway, netmask etc. to the clients, because it's just
a temporary lan (for a weekend) and therefor I don't wan't to spend hours
setting up 100 machines...

There's a program in win95 called winipcfg, which shows what the computer
have recived from a dhcp server. BUT in the field which should be showing
193.162.146.9 (a dns server) is just empty...

What could be wrong with my config?
Maybe I should post some of my dhcpd.conf?

Thanks in advance.


You need a line like this in your dhcpd.conf file:

option domain-name-servers  192.168.2.1, 205.162.184.2, 205.162.184.3;

Also, you must have DNS enabled in the Win95 TCP/IP control panel.

Hope this helps,



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Re: Pine and fvwm under hamm

1997-10-20 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

 since i updated to hamm, two odd things are happening.  one is that often
 when i send a message from Pine, it hangs for 20-30 seconds before saying
 'message sent and copied to sent mail'.  just in case there was a problem
 with smail, or my isp's mail server (mail.oz.net), i sent some mail from
 netscape, without incident.  obviously this can be a bit of a pain if i
 have a lot of email to send. :)

I found the comments in the .pinerc file suggested a simple hack which
worked for me (my sendmail-path was originally blank):
# This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary  arguments,
# to be used in posting mail messages.  Example:
#/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi
# or,
#/usr/local/bin/sendit.sh
# The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory.
# NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input,
#   AND operate in the style of sendmail's -t option.
sendmail-path=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi
 

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Re: [PPP] pon and plog not working

1997-10-20 Thread Joost Kooij
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

 Hi,
 
 A friend of mine has installed debian on his laptop.  I tried running pon.
 It runs without complaining, but doesn't do anything much.  The modem
 doesn't make any of the usual noises associated with an attempt to
 connect.  When I do plog, it comes up blank.  When I do a ps, it seems
 that pon has indeed started up a couple of processes.  These sit there for
 a few minutes and then die.  Other than this I have no idea what is going
 on.  Certainly plog is no help.

Does your friend have a line

local2.*-/var/log/ppp.log

in his /etc/syslog.conf ?

If not, try adding it and running /etc/init.d/sysklogd reload


Joost


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Re: X-Windows and Bash Settings

1997-10-20 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Jason Bauer wrote:
 I've got Debian Linux 1.3 using bash for a shell. When I go into X-Windows
 (Afterstep win. manager) I lose all of my aliases and other settings that
 get run in my .bash-profile when I login, and when i quit X the settings are
 back to how they should be. Is this just a bug or am I doing something
 wrong?

Yes (uh - it's not a bug ;-). aliases aren't inherited to subshells. They need
to be redefined if you want to use them in subshells. The best way is to use
aliases in .bashrc instead of .bash_profile (and to source .bashrc from
.bash_profile).


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Problem with dhcpd/dns - here's my dhcpd.conf

1997-10-20 Thread Michael Legart
Hi!

This is my dhcpd.conf. Can anyone see whats wrong?

# dhcpd.conf
#
# Configuration file for ISC dhcpd
#

# Hosts with more than one interface MUST specify a ``server-identifier'',
# which should be the IP address of the server's primary network interface,
# or if there is no interface that can be described that way, at least an
# interface whose address isn't likely to change.

server-identifier badpixel;

# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option domain-name badserver;
option domain-name-servers 193.162.146.9;

# IP subnets that are alone on their physical wire should be declared by
# themselves.   ISC dhcpd may still refer to them as shared networks in
# log messages, but this is simply an artifact of the underlying data
# structures.
#
# Note that options can be specified in the subnet declaration which
# supersede the global options specified earlier.

subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 192.168.0.10 192.168.0.249;
  option name-servers 193.162.146.9;
  option domain-name badserver;
  option routers 192.168.0.250;
  option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
  option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
  default-lease-time 26;
  max-lease-time 27;
}


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Re: Problem with dhcpd/ip_masq

1997-10-20 Thread Michael Legart
Hi!

At 08:17 20-10-97 -0600, you wrote:

option domain-name-servers  192.168.2.1, 205.162.184.2, 205.162.184.3;

I think a have that line. 192.168.2.1 is your box, right? I don't need to
be running a DNS server - or?

Also, you must have DNS enabled in the Win95 TCP/IP control panel.

I just checked my settings, and dns is disabled. If I enable it, I have
type type a host name. 

Well, if thats working it's just great. But... I would like it so be set up
automaticly. I have to set up about 80-100 computers in a couple of hours,
and that sux a little... if you see what i mean?


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ls colors

1997-10-20 Thread Jason Bauer
Thanks for the alias settings help and the quick response! I've got
another question while i'm thinking of stuff. I used to run Slakware
linux until I heard about how much better Debian is. In Slakware, when I
did an ls it showed all of the files in colors according to their type,
while Debian does not. Where do I change it to display in color?

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Re: X-Windows and Bash Settings

1997-10-20 Thread Will Lowe
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Jason Bauer wrote:

 I've got Debian Linux 1.3 using bash for a shell. When I go into X-Windows
 (Afterstep win. manager) I lose all of my aliases and other settings that
Do you mean these settings don't work if you (for example) start up an
xterm with bash in it?

 get run in my .bash-profile when I login
That's the problem.  .bash-profile is run *only* for login shells -- when
you start an xterm,  you're not logging in again,  so bash doesn't read
.bash-profile.  You've got a pair of bash settings files: .bashrc (run for
non-login shells,  like xterms) and .bash_profile (run only for login
shells).  This is so you can do things like set terminals up and check for
mail only when you login -- don't need to do this otherwise.

The simplest soluction is to put all the login-specific stuff in
.bash_profile,  and put all your aliases and other setups in .bashrc.
Then make the last line of .bash_profile be source .bashrc -- so that
stuff gets loaded even in login shells.

An alternative would be to start all bash shells as login shells by doing
bash --login every time you want to start a shell.  That works ok,  but
is kinda silly.

 and when i quit X the settings are
 back to how they should be.
That's because X is running in the bash shell that started when you
logged in -- when X exits,  you're back to that same shell process.

Will

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Re: xlib6_3.3-4.deb

1997-10-20 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Rob MacWilliams wrote:

 I just did a dselect of stable on my local mirror and it grabbed 
 xlib6_3.3-4.deb.  Is this a 
 libc6 package, or is the version number confusing?  I'm still running an 
 entirely bo system 
 right now.

No, this is a libc5 package. The '6' stands for the '6' in X11R6, if I am
correct. The libc6 version of this package is called xlib6g.

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Re: CDR drive replacement.

1997-10-20 Thread Jeff Noxon
The newer Yamaha CD-R drives are protected by an NDA.  You can't get the
developer information without signing one.  The old CDR-100 information
is available on their website.

I used to own a CDR-100.  I now have a CDR-400c.  The 100 was more stable
and better made, but the 400c has better features.  (I use it under Windoze,
though...)

Jeff

On Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 11:14:25AM +0200, Paul Huygen wrote:
 Danny ter Haar wrote:
 
 This week we purchased the CDR400T (6x4) from Yamaha.
 So far we have been unable to get xcdroast to work with it.
 
 I am sorry for Danny. However, it is consistent with
 the Hardware Compatibility Howto that lists the equipment that is
 known to work or not to work with Linux. The CDR400T is listed in the
 table of CDR's known NOT to work. There seems to be some flaw in the
 CDR400 that is not present in the other Yamaha CDR's.
 
 If I consider buying equipment like a CDR or a page scanner, I always
 consult theHardware Compatibility Howto to prevent unpleasant
 surprise like Danny has got.


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Re: ls colors

1997-10-20 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Jason Bauer wrote:

 Thanks for the alias settings help and the quick response! I've got
 another question while i'm thinking of stuff. I used to run Slakware
 linux until I heard about how much better Debian is. In Slakware, when I
 did an ls it showed all of the files in colors according to their type,
 while Debian does not. Where do I change it to display in color?
 

Add into that list of aliases that you're setting in your .bashrc:
alias ls='ls --color=tty'
or
alias ls='ls -F --color=tty'

The Slackware system I used to have access to has disappeared (actually,
it became a FreeBSD box), so I can't check which one of those emulates the
behavior of ls on Slackware better - with the '-F' one gets a '/' appended
to directory names, a '*' appended to the names of executables, etc.  I
seem to remember that Slackware did that, but you might not want to do it
since always having a '-F' in ls can screw up things like:
ls | grep 'tar.gz$'
which would now only find those files ending in tar.gz that were not
executable.

Oh, and you probably want --color=tty and not --color.  To see the
difference, do the following on a directory with many colored files:
alias ls='ls'
ls --color
ls --color | less
ls --color=tty
ls --color=tty | less

You might also want to play around with the environment variable LS_COLORS
- 'man ls' for details.



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Re: XFree86 setup!!!

1997-10-20 Thread Dale Harrison
 
  Ok... I changed the server to XF_VGA16 and then I noticed that startx 
  itself was
  pointing to xinitrc and xserverrc in /usr/X11/ - shouldn't it be reading it 
  from
  /etc/X11? I have a feeling that the setup program won't work here because I 
  screwed
  something up and will have to do it all by hand (not so bad). Thanks! -sp
 
 I've attached the startx script from my system.  It goes in
 /usr/X11R6/bin.  A few notes:
 
 1) /usr/X11R6/bin/X should be a symlink (made via ln -s) to the server you
 want to use -- in this case XF86_VGA16.

With 1.3, isn't /usr/X11/bin/X a setuid wrapper that reads the server to
load from the plaintext file /etc/X11/Xserver? [or something similar. The
name eludes me at the moment. Xconfig? perhaps.. I dunno, it's late]

I guess this was done for security reasons? Anyone know?

I don't imagine anything would break if you symlinked X to your XF86server
but you'd bypass /etc/X11/Xwhatever, defeating whatever purpose it had.

D.



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Modules / depmod

1997-10-20 Thread debian-user
Help,

I've been playing arround with the new 2.1.5x kernels. Now when I issue a 
depmod -a, it does not update the modules.dep file. Any content of the 
modules.dep is cleared. I've re-built the depmod / modprobe utilities (v 
2.1.55) from source, but still no joy.

Can anyone suggest what I've done wrong as I'd like to return to using modules. 

I get the same result whether I use the 2.0.27 / 2.0.30 or 2.1.55 kernel. I 
couldn't get the modules to load correctly before I updated the depmod / 
modprobe utils.

Thanks

Alex Monaghan


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Re: Problem with dhcpd/ip_masq

1997-10-20 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Michael Legart wrote:
 At 08:17 20-10-97 -0600, you wrote:
 
 option domain-name-servers  192.168.2.1, 205.162.184.2, 205.162.184.3;
 
 I think a have that line. 192.168.2.1 is your box, right? I don't need to
 be running a DNS server - or?
Yes. You must.

 I just checked my settings, and dns is disabled. If I enable it, I have
 type type a host name. 
You are right in disabling DNS. It will be reenabled by the
domain-name-server option of the DHCP protocol. Don't ask, this is
Micro$oft logic :-)

In other words: just select TCP/IP on your PC's with all default options
and make the rest with DHCP.

 Well, if thats working it's just great. But..I would like it so be set up
 automaticly. I have to set up about 80-100 computers in a couple of hours,
 and that sux a little... if you see what i mean?
This is just the situation where DHCP comes in handy


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Re: Problem with dhcpd/dns - here's my dhcpd.conf

1997-10-20 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Michael Legart wrote:
 
 This is my dhcpd.conf. Can anyone see whats wrong?
What appears in /var/log/daemon.log after saying:
  /etc/init.d/dhcpd start
?

The configfile appears to be ok.



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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread john
George Bonser writes:
 I, for one, would much rather have some sort of a tool so I can get back
 to enjoying my system and not spend as much time configuring it.

So would I.  Can we get a project going to create one?
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Fixing Bad Blocks

1997-10-20 Thread PATRICK DAHIROC
Hi.

I recently posted a message about Kernel Panic that was due to bad
blocks in my hard drive.  My plan is to just start all over.  What I need
now is a way to fix bad blocks or to skip over them if neccessary.  I
received a message that told me to use e2fsck -c /dev/hda? ( where ? is
any one of my 5 partions) to find the bad the bad block and then to use
badblocks to mark them.  However when I did e2fsck -c /dev/hda? again it
still sees the bad blocks and I am afraid that this will still cause the
system to hang. I am thinking of reformatting and drive all over again.
Will this fix the problem?  Does any body have any suggestions.  Is there
any program that fixes badblocks?

Patrick


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Re: THANKS 4 - WinNT syscalls insecurity (fwd)

1997-10-20 Thread Dima
JD Thomlinson wrote:
  Nuts! I'm damn glad that you sent what you sent to the list!
  Considering how much space is already wasted on irrelevant 
  flame wars on who's in charge of what and in what manner, 
  it's refreshing to see useful, detailed information about 
  real code and what's going on in NT.
  
  This I can take to someone and point out why they should be 
  considering Debian. I don't have the time to check out every 
  URL that someone includes in a post. Thank you!!! Please 
  include me in any future mailings of yours.
 
Ditto.

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Debian master maintenance

1997-10-20 Thread m*
hello to all!

tonight at 18:00 CST the Debian master will be taken down for system
maintenance. estimated down time will be 1 hour or less.

feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns.

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problems w/ Lilo

1997-10-20 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

HI,

I'm trying to install Debian on a PPro and I having problems
with Lilo.
I can use the boot floppy created at install step but if I
compile a custom kernel, install it and run lilo, the boot process
or hangs with LIL- or after the boot is completed there is a 
kernel panic with a lot of scroll in screen.
The system is a PPro 200MHz with FX mother board, AHA2940
scsi adpter, Quantum Vicking 4GB Scsi hard disk, 128MB RAM, and a 3COM 905
Boomerang net card.
Any help/ More info, please?


[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
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bo-updates other updates

1997-10-20 Thread Otavio Exel
hi everybody,

I really don't understand ftp.debian.org directory structure;
is there a document explaining every bit of it?

it fisrt happened with samba-1.9.17p2; I read in the newsgroups that it
was available (and it was important!) but couldn't install it with
dselect: dselect still showed 1.9.16p11 as the current release; so I:
- uninstalled my current 1.9.16p11 with dselect;
- downloaded 1.9.17p2 using ftp;
- installed 1.9.17p2 with 'dpkg -i filename'
is (was) there a more well-behaved way to do it?

now I want to install mutt-0.58.0; I've received a message stating that
mutt-0.58.0-i386.deb is available but I can't find it (let alone install
it (let alone install it with dselect))!!

I also would like to keep my installation up-to-date with whatever is in
'bo-updates'; is there a way to do it with dselect?

btw: dselect is GREAT!!! congratulations, Debian guys!

TIA!

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Re: X-Windows and Bash Settings

1997-10-20 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Will Lowe wrote:
 
 On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Jason Bauer wrote:
 
  I've got Debian Linux 1.3 using bash for a shell. When I go into X-Windows
  (Afterstep win. manager) I lose all of my aliases and other settings that
 Do you mean these settings don't work if you (for example) start up an
 xterm with bash in it?
 
  get run in my .bash-profile when I login
 That's the problem.  .bash-profile is run *only* for login shells -- when
 you start an xterm,  you're not logging in again,  so bash doesn't read
 .bash-profile.  You've got a pair of bash settings files: .bashrc (run for
 non-login shells,  like xterms) and .bash_profile (run only for login
 shells).  This is so you can do things like set terminals up and check for
 mail only when you login -- don't need to do this otherwise.
 
 The simplest soluction is to put all the login-specific stuff in
 .bash_profile,  and put all your aliases and other setups in .bashrc.
 Then make the last line of .bash_profile be source .bashrc -- so that
 stuff gets loaded even in login shells.
 
 An alternative would be to start all bash shells as login shells by doing
 bash --login every time you want to start a shell.  That works ok,  but
 is kinda silly.

The parameter to xterm or rxvt to make it a login shell window is
'-ls'.

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Re: Problem with dhcpd/ip_masq

1997-10-20 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Al Youngwerth wrote:
 
 At 05:30 PM 10/19/97 +0200, Michael Legart wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have a little problem with ip_masq.
 
 It's allmost working ... clients on the network can access hosts outside
 the LAN if they type the hosts ip instead of the domainname. I can access
 hosts via. domainnames from my linux box. I use dhcpd to send info about
 ip-number, default gateway, netmask etc. to the clients, because it's just
 a temporary lan (for a weekend) and therefor I don't wan't to spend hours
 setting up 100 machines...
 
 There's a program in win95 called winipcfg, which shows what the computer
 have recived from a dhcp server. BUT in the field which should be showing
 193.162.146.9 (a dns server) is just empty...
 
 What could be wrong with my config?
 Maybe I should post some of my dhcpd.conf?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 You need a line like this in your dhcpd.conf file:
 
 option domain-name-servers  192.168.2.1, 205.162.184.2, 205.162.184.3;
 
 Also, you must have DNS enabled in the Win95 TCP/IP control panel.
 

Actually no, you don't have to have DNS enabled. You enable it if you
already know the address and are going to type it in. Seems
bass-ackwards but it's true.

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Re: Problem with dhcpd/ip_masq

1997-10-20 Thread Michael Legart
At 11:02 20-10-97 -0600, Al Youngwerth wrote:

No, you don't have to be running DNS but is this a demand dial link? If so
you may have a problem with an Win95 TCP/IP bug that can cause Win95
machines to query DNS when they can't find a resource they used to have.
The fix for this sucks: setup all your DNS stuff in the Win95 control
panel, save it, then go into the registry and disable DNS (regular DNS will
still work).

Hmmm... now i'm a little confused. Nils Renebarth just told me that I have
to be running a dns server...! My isp have 2 of them...

Anyway ... there has to be a easyer way to do it!

I use diald to get the connection.

This is what appear in /var/log/daemon.log after bootup:

Oct 20 21:25:45 badpixel kerneld: started, pid=107, qid=0
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: Internet Software Consortium DHCPD $Name:
BETA_5_14 $
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: Copyright 1995, 1996 The Internet Software
Consortium.
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: All rights reserved.
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: Listening on Socket/eth0/192.168.0.0
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: Sending on   Socket/eth0/192.168.0.0
Oct 20 21:25:59 badpixel modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-0

Then I execute diald up and this appears in /var/log/messages

Oct 20 21:33:49 badpixel connect: Initializing Modem
Oct 20 21:33:50 badpixel connect: Dialing system
Oct 20 21:34:10 badpixel connect: Connected
Oct 20 21:34:10 badpixel connect: Loggin in
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel connect: Protocol started
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel diald[205]: Running pppd (pid = 220).
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel kernel: registered device ppp0 
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel pppd[220]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel pppd[220]: Using interface ppp0
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel pppd[220]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Oct 20 21:34:17 badpixel pppd[220]: local  IP address 194.239.144.47
Oct 20 21:34:17 badpixel pppd[220]: remote IP address 194.182.253.26
Oct 20 21:34:17 badpixel pppd[220]: Cannot determine ethernet address for
proxy ARP

This is the output from ifconfig:
badpixel# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
  RX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

eth0  Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet  HWaddr 00:40:33:41:A3:85
  inet addr:192.168.0.250  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x300 

ppp0  Link encap:Point-Point Protocol  
  inet addr:194.239.144.47  P-t-P:194.182.253.26  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:57 errors:1 dropped:1 overruns:0
  TX packets:65 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

And this is my routeing table:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
255.255.255.255 *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 eth0
asc1.gby.tele.d *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
localnet*   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
loopback*   255.0.0.0   U 0  05 lo
default *   0.0.0.0 U 0  01 ppp0

Any ideas whats wrong?

I would be so thankfull...




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Re: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Bruce Perens
First, let me assure you that you can get it to work. It works great on
my Toshiba 440CDT.

Install the kernel-source package. As root, make menuconfig in the
/usr/src/linux directory. Enable APM (it's under character devices).
Enable the option for APM to blank the screen. This will work fine for
both text screens and X windows, and will turn off the backlight.
APM is not enabled in our generic kernel because some machines crash with it
enabled. Remove device drivers that aren't used on your system. Build the
kernel with make zLilo, and the modules with
make modules;make modules_install.

Do not install the apmd package. apmd is not reacting fast enough and
it breaks resume on my system. The system resumes fine without it.

Boot with the setup disk that came with the system, and set the APM
parameters like screen blank time, etc.

I am able to change the screen brightness with the function key with the
water-faucet icon on it. Push Fn and that key. I think this is changing
between the three APM options you see in the set-up disk, but I'm not sure.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Bruce Perens
By the way, my Toshiba system runs the disk about 20% faster when I use
hdparm to turn on 32-bit mode.

Bruce
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Re: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Olaf Weber
Bruce Perens writes:

 First, let me assure you that you can get it to work. It works great on
 my Toshiba 440CDT.

Also on my 430CDS.

 Do not install the apmd package. apmd is not reacting fast
 enough and it breaks resume on my system. The system resumes fine
 without it.

I must admit that I've never had this problem myself.  (And I think
your problem is that apmd reacts too fast, and shuts the system down
while it is in the middle of a sync.)  In any case, it is easy to
patch ampd.

 Boot with the setup disk that came with the system, and set the APM
 parameters like screen blank time, etc.

For the terminal screen, you can set these parameters with `setterm'
(-powersave and -blank options).  For X, you may want to include
`Option power_saver' in the XF86Config file, and then specify the
BlankTime, StandbyTime, SuspendTime, and Offtime parameters.  When
power_saver is enables, you can `xset -dpms ...' to fine-tune these.

For hard-disks, you set the spindown by using hdparm as well.
However, if you use hdparm then that setting won't be retained over a
resume.  (I patched apmd to call the requisite script after every
resume, that way I get a spindown in any of the power modes.)

Note that in order to actually get a spindown, you'll have to increase
the time interval of `update' to something like half an hour (in
/etc/init.d/boot).  Moreover, you may want to edit /etc/syslog.conf to
discard most of the output from various daemons.

 I am able to change the screen brightness with the function key with
 the water-faucet icon on it. Push Fn and that key. I think this is
 changing between the three APM options you see in the set-up disk,
 but I'm not sure.

Yes.  Two of these are fixed, the third you can configure to your own
liking.  For that option, I picked low brightness (the greatest
powersaver AFAICT) with fast CPU but the silent cooling method.
This gets me responsiveness with a reasonable battery life for my
purposes.

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Re: Problem with dhcpd/ip_masq

1997-10-20 Thread Al Youngwerth
At 09:57 PM 10/20/97 +0200, Michael Legart wrote:
At 11:02 20-10-97 -0600, Al Youngwerth wrote:

No, you don't have to be running DNS but is this a demand dial link? If so
you may have a problem with an Win95 TCP/IP bug that can cause Win95
machines to query DNS when they can't find a resource they used to have.
The fix for this sucks: setup all your DNS stuff in the Win95 control
panel, save it, then go into the registry and disable DNS (regular DNS will
still work).

Hmmm... now i'm a little confused. Nils Renebarth just told me that I have
to be running a dns server...! My isp have 2 of them...

No, you don't have to run a DNS server on your LAN, you can use your ISP's.


Anyway ... there has to be a easyer way to do it!

I use diald to get the connection.

This is what appear in /var/log/daemon.log after bootup:

Oct 20 21:25:45 badpixel kerneld: started, pid=107, qid=0
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: Internet Software Consortium DHCPD $Name:
BETA_5_14 $
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: Copyright 1995, 1996 The Internet Software
Consortium.
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: All rights reserved.
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: Listening on Socket/eth0/192.168.0.0
Oct 20 21:25:46 badpixel dhcpd: Sending on   Socket/eth0/192.168.0.0
Oct 20 21:25:59 badpixel modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-0

Then I execute diald up and this appears in /var/log/messages

Oct 20 21:33:49 badpixel connect: Initializing Modem
Oct 20 21:33:50 badpixel connect: Dialing system
Oct 20 21:34:10 badpixel connect: Connected
Oct 20 21:34:10 badpixel connect: Loggin in
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel connect: Protocol started
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel diald[205]: Running pppd (pid = 220).
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel kernel: registered device ppp0 
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel pppd[220]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel pppd[220]: Using interface ppp0
Oct 20 21:34:14 badpixel pppd[220]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Oct 20 21:34:17 badpixel pppd[220]: local  IP address 194.239.144.47
Oct 20 21:34:17 badpixel pppd[220]: remote IP address 194.182.253.26
Oct 20 21:34:17 badpixel pppd[220]: Cannot determine ethernet address for
proxy ARP

This is the output from ifconfig:
badpixel# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
  RX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

eth0  Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet  HWaddr 00:40:33:41:A3:85
  inet addr:192.168.0.250  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x300 

ppp0  Link encap:Point-Point Protocol  
  inet addr:194.239.144.47  P-t-P:194.182.253.26  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:57 errors:1 dropped:1 overruns:0
  TX packets:65 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

And this is my routeing table:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
255.255.255.255 *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 eth0
asc1.gby.tele.d *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
localnet*   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
loopback*   255.0.0.0   U 0  05 lo
default *   0.0.0.0 U 0  01 ppp0

Any ideas whats wrong?

I would be so thankfull...


Everything looks good to me. Can your clients just not surf? Try running
winipcfg at the Win95 clients to see if they got all of their dhcp
configuration.

Then do the diag basics: can you ping the Linux box? can you ping the dns
server's IP address? can you ping www.apexxtech.com? etc.


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Re: Problem with LaTeX package?

1997-10-20 Thread joost witteveen
 
 Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 
 When I invoke lates on a .tex source file, like so
 
$ latex usrguide.tex
 
 I get 
 
This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.1)
I can't find the default format file!
 
 You do not have latex.fmt installed!
 
 You must search for the latex.ltx file and then run initex on it. 

Though this probably would solve his problems, this should not
be neccecary. The debian tetex-* pacakges _should_ do this all
automatically. 
Installing tetex-bin runs /usr/bin/texconfig, wich should install
the latex.fmt file.

So, I'd advice Britton to re-install tetex-bin (and maybe tetex-base too).
That should solve his problems.

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#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
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Re: Fixing Bad Blocks

1997-10-20 Thread Bob Clark
You need to create a file containing the block numbers of
the bad blocks.  The badblocks program should work.  Then
run e2fsck -L on the *un-mounted* filesystem.  See the
manpages for badblocks and e2fsck.  You may still need to
re-make the filesystem on the affected partition.  I would
repeat e2fsck -f -L badblock_filename device_name until a
clean check is achieved and cross your fingers.

--Bob

PATRICK DAHIROC wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I recently posted a message about Kernel Panic that was due to bad
 blocks in my hard drive.  My plan is to just start all over.  What I need
 now is a way to fix bad blocks or to skip over them if neccessary.  I
 received a message that told me to use e2fsck -c /dev/hda? ( where ? is
 any one of my 5 partions) to find the bad the bad block and then to use
 badblocks to mark them.  However when I did e2fsck -c /dev/hda? again it
 still sees the bad blocks and I am afraid that this will still cause the
 system to hang. I am thinking of reformatting and drive all over again.
 Will this fix the problem?  Does any body have any suggestions.  Is there
 any program that fixes badblocks?
 
 Patrick
 
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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Oct 20, 1997 at 08:10:09AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 George Bonser writes:
  I, for one, would much rather have some sort of a tool so I can get back
  to enjoying my system and not spend as much time configuring it.
 
 So would I.  Can we get a project going to create one?

As I already posted, there was already an effort to outline an admintool.

If you are going to do it right, you have to keep in mind, that there is
never only one way of doing it right.

Most admin/configuration tools tend to not be enough powerful or to restrict
certain common ways of administration. This is bad if there are more than
one person working on the same system. The admin tool will conflict with the
hand made changes. A proper solution is very difficult here.

However, if you only want to write a little tool for the beginnings, with
some common tasks done automagically, thismay not be your concern.

But perhaps it is just better (and more efficient) to write more and good
documentation, instead of more and bad code...

Just my 2 cent on this.
Marcus

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Re: Modules / depmod

1997-10-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Oct 20, 1997 at 06:04:32PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Help,
 
 I've been playing arround with the new 2.1.5x kernels. Now when I issue a 
 depmod -a, it does not update the modules.dep file. Any content of the 
 modules.dep is cleared. I've re-built the depmod / modprobe utilities (v 
 2.1.55) from source, but still no joy.
 
 Can anyone suggest what I've done wrong as I'd like to return to using 
 modules. 
 
 I get the same result whether I use the 2.0.27 / 2.0.30 or 2.1.55 kernel. I 
 couldn't get the modules to load correctly before I updated the depmod / 
 modprobe utils.
 
 Thanks
 
 Alex Monaghan

I never use depmod.

I recommend you to install the kernel-package. It does all the nifty things
automagically. Be sure to skim over the doc's.

Marcus

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modem

1997-10-20 Thread
Hola ,soy español. Tengo un ordenador IBM Aptiva 120MHz .Tengo un 
problema: Tengo un Modem-Fax MWave 28800 y  el Debian Linux no me lo 
reconoció al instalarse ,¿Como puedo hacer que lo reconozca?.


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Re: Debian master maintenance

1997-10-20 Thread m*
hello there!

Debian master maintenance completed.

thanks,

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Re: Fixing Bad Blocks

1997-10-20 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Bob Clark wrote:

 You need to create a file containing the block numbers of
 the bad blocks.  The badblocks program should work.  Then
 run e2fsck -L on the *un-mounted* filesystem.  See the
 manpages for badblocks and e2fsck.  You may still need to
 re-make the filesystem on the affected partition.  I would
 repeat e2fsck -f -L badblock_filename device_name until a
 clean check is achieved and cross your fingers.

However, if you repeat this, and the filesystem keeps getting more and
more badblocks, the problem is getting worse (e.g. it's slowly crashing).

Brandon

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DOJ charges Microsoft violations

1997-10-20 Thread Adam Heath


http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,15418,00.html


DOJ charges Microsoft violations.url
Description: Binary data


Many configuration doubts (PWD, colors, executions and the modules)

1997-10-20 Thread Juan Carlos Muro
Hello. I have just installed Debian 1.3.1 and have a lot of doubts about
configurations By now I have been able to install the X windows. But for
example : 

- How can I do for the files and folders' colours to appear?


- How can I do the PWD to appear in the 'prompt'?

-Something extrange: with 'PC Actual Magazine' came the Netscape 3.01. I
made a 'tar xvfz file' and when installed, if I type 'netscape' (on the
proper directory) the system returns 'archive doesn't exist' or something
like that. Misteriously. if I run 'mc' and inside of it's window I press
enter on the file 'netscape', it runs. Note: if I make 'dir' or 'ls', this
file appears without '*' but in the window of 'mc' it does.
- Why the system doesn't find the modules in the boot

I'm very thankfull, and excuse that I wrote this message before in
Spanish.
Greetings : Juan Carlos Muro
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upgrading ldso (because executor does not work)

1997-10-20 Thread Radu Duta
I'm trying to upgrade from ldso_1.8.10-2.deb to ldso_1.9.6-2.deb 
because I can't get executor to run.  I can run it under slackware
just fine, and one of the differences is the ld.so itself.  I've
tried preloading the various other libraries with copies from the
slackware distro.  No luck.  

Back on the subject; what I wanted to do was to boot of the rescue
disk, and mount the root as /target then use dpkg -root=/target -i name.deb
to upgrade the ldso.  

I want to do it from the boot floppy so I can back up to ldso_1.8.10-2.deb
if something goes wrong.  Of course if something does go wrong it means the
only way I can fix is by booting of the rescue floppy, since the machine
probably won't boot.  (call be paranoid if you want)  

dpkg -i does not work when you boot of the rescue floppy, it complaings
about sysinfo symbol not found (can't remember the exact error).

Can anybody offer me some clues as to how I can acomplish what I want to do.
To me at least it sounds like something that should work out of the box and
I'd like to see dpkg on the boot floppy.  If there isn't enough space on the
boot floppy than it should be on the cdrom boot image when using loadline of
the cdrom.

Just my $.02 on the matter.   I'm not that far off from switching to
some other distro, like redhat to avoid some of these problems, along with
the poor documentation on building your own packages and awkward pacakge
selection/management.  I've dealt with a lot of different distributions in
my life, SGI, DEC, SUN, slackware, debian, redhat, they all have their set
of problems and advantages.  Whatever works I guess.

Radu




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gcc problem

1997-10-20 Thread Shaul Peleg
Can anyone tell me why I can't run the executable (if it is that!) that
gcc compiles? Is there some kind of setup required? I am compiling in my
home directory and another file, without the suffix is made but can't be
run! Thanks all!


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Oct 20, 1997 at 04:05:56PM +1000, Mr Stuart Lamble wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]
 : Let me say that the awe driver package works just fine with a SB AWE32.
 : Don`t know about the 64 yet. Any people tried?
 
 I would suspect that it would work fine with the 64 as well. AFAIK, the
 AWE64 is the same as the 32, except for the extra 32 voices. Oh, and the
 extra 32 voices are done in software, not hardware, so unless the driver
 has support coded specifically for those 32 voices (which implies tying
 up the CPU to do this), you'll find you're stuck with the first 32
 anyway.

Hello! You are totally right. Everything you say is true.

About the AWE64: As Nicola and me found out, the AWE64 is working
flawlessly, but there are a few caveeats (mostly with isapnp).

Everything who is interested, should check out my HOWTO at

http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/soundblaster.html

It does cover the SB [AWE] {32,64} [PnP].

 Fscking Windoze hardware.. (generic rant :)

No comment. (My rant would get longer than yours :)

Thank you,
Marcus

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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread Ted Harding

On 20-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

But perhaps it is just better (and more efficient) to write more and good
documentation, instead of more and bad code...

Just my 2 cent on this.
Marcus

This comment is spot-on. Linux is now so complicated (and varied) that, if
you don't know it already, it can take a very long time to find out how to
do even something simple correctly. This is why people call for software
admin tools: you can hope that the tool has the knowledge. If it was well
written in a document, and easy to find, then you wouldn't need the tool.

Best wishes,
Ted.

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Re: gcc problem

1997-10-20 Thread Philippe Troin

On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:23:19 EDT Shaul Peleg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Can anyone tell me why I can't run the executable (if it is that!) that
 gcc compiles? Is there some kind of setup required? I am compiling in my
 home directory and another file, without the suffix is made but can't be
 run! Thanks all!

Assuming you're compiling with:
gcc -o foo foo.c

You need to run it as ./foo, not foo.
The . directory doesn't come by default in your path for security reasons.
You can add it in your .bashrc if you want.

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Drivers for Hardware RAIDS

1997-10-20 Thread Debian mail-lists receiver

Hi all.  I have a compaq box with a CPQ-5710 Hardware-RAID5 controller and would
like to run the machine with LINUX.  Does anyone know if there is a driver
already written for LINUX for this type of RAID?

TIA

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Re: new debian user questions

1997-10-20 Thread Will Lowe
On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Ted Harding wrote:

 But perhaps it is just better (and more efficient) to write more and good
 documentation, instead of more and bad code...
 
 do even something simple correctly. This is why people call for software
 admin tools: you can hope that the tool has the knowledge. If it was well
 written in a document, and easy to find, then you wouldn't need the tool.

I think it's impossible to write a 100% admin tool for all cases -- a Zero
Administration Initiative for linux would meet with inevitable failure.
This is (as we always say) due to the power and configurability of things.

I think Debian goes a long way towards making the task manageable by
simply installing things in a compatible way and giving good basic setups.

I'd argue,  in the *nix fashion,  that a bunch of little,  specific,
WELL-DOCUMENTED admin tools is better -- one for net,  smail,  sendmail,
etc... A great example is the tzconfig script -- it's small,  does it's
work well,  and doesn't involve tremendous overhead or hours of work to
understand.  My five-year-old brother could run tzconfig,  follow the
prompts,  and get it right.  Maybe what I'm really suggesting is that
each major component of the system needs a simple config utility;  that's
already the case with most of them (XF86Setup,  for example).  Now if
finding them wasn't so tough...

Will

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Compaq RAID drivers for Linux

1997-10-20 Thread Debian mail-lists receiver

I've already sent a message out about finding a driver for a compaq RAID, but 
now
I'm not sure about the model number.

Does anyone know about any linux drivers for compaq RAID controllers, in 
particular
the Proliant 2500 series, or any compatibility issues related to these 
controllers?

TIA


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More X setup fun!

1997-10-20 Thread Shaul Peleg
I am having trouble getting X windows to run. I am *nix illiterate. The
documentation that I found did not help. My system is fairly simple - I
have a simple Trident Providia 9865 based board with 2 megs. After I
setup using generic VGA / VGA16 base / afterstep I run startx and the
screen goes blank. I then see a list where everyline starts with (  )
where some have a ** inside. I looked at .xsession-errors in my home dir
and found that afterstep couldn't find some file with a '.hook' suffix.
Is this why the window manager doesn't come up? Should the screen still
stay black?
My .xsession is simple - xterm blah blah blah 
 exec afterstep
I am just trying to get something to come up! The setup program looks
fine - can anyone help?!

Thanks


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Re: gcc problem

1997-10-20 Thread Shaul Peleg
Thanks alot! That's probably it... I'll have to get offline now in order to
test this. BYE!

Philippe Troin wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:23:19 EDT Shaul Peleg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  Can anyone tell me why I can't run the executable (if it is that!) that
  gcc compiles? Is there some kind of setup required? I am compiling in my
  home directory and another file, without the suffix is made but can't be
  run! Thanks all!

 Assuming you're compiling with:
 gcc -o foo foo.c

 You need to run it as ./foo, not foo.
 The . directory doesn't come by default in your path for security reasons.
 You can add it in your .bashrc if you want.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #890

1997-10-20 Thread Andrew Brigham
hello,

well I've went through some considerable pains to install the latest samba
on my system its there... everything seems to be working fine (seems to
be) the client can see the server the server and the client like to talk
back and forth... however when it comes to the issue of passwords... it no
longer like me

I'm running shadow passwords... I have netatalk already installed for the
MacIntoshes on my system and I'm also running quotas. Does anybody have any
suggestions... I have tried every step in the Diagnosing Samba
documentation and I always get a failure of password... I have changed and
tried my password in upper and in lowercase letters etc. etc. etc.does
anybody else have this problem or am I the only one?


Andrew Brigham

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Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 1.9.17p2]
first SMBtconX failed, trying again. ERRSRV - ERRinvnetname (Invalid network
nam
e in tree connect.)
SMBtconX failed. ERRSRV - ERRinvnetname (Invalid network name in tree
connect.)
Perhaps you are using the wrong sharename, username or password?
Some servers insist that these be in uppercase




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xemacs and emacs

1997-10-20 Thread John Overton
Hi all,

Installing from a Debian 1.3.1 CD:

1. I'd like to make both xemacs and emacs available on my system, but
   dselect prohibits both.  Why?  Should not there be an automatic way
   for coexistence?

2. Also, I'd like to make bbdb and auctex available to xemacs, but
   using dselect doesn't permit this?  What's the right automatic
   way to give xemacs bbdb and auctex support?

Thanks,
John


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proper way to back-up both win95 and linux

1997-10-20 Thread John Overton
I'm using a dual boot PC using 2 disks, debian on hdb and win95 on
hda.  To keep things simple, I want to backup both disks through a
single (linux) mechanism, on a single tape.

It would be great to avoid dumping disk images, as I'd like to provide
incrementals, etc.  

Recommendations?  Options?

Thanks much,
John 


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