shell cmd: group name from gid?

1997-10-31 Thread Paul Miller
Using bash, how can I get the group name of a gid?

-Paul


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CD-RW

1997-10-31 Thread Henrique Almeida
Hi,

Anyone using CD-Rewritables with Linux? Maybe Ill buy a HP CD-RW 7110e
(external, plugs on the parallel port).

Also, I would like to dump the Windows stuff from my PC in favor of a 100%
pure Linux way. But if CD-RWs doesnt work with Linux... :-(

[]s, Henrique

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Re: New Linux Install

1997-10-31 Thread Lindsay Allen

The trick here is that when you get to the boot: prompt on the rescue
disk you enter floppy0 thus

boot: floppy0

From here you just follow the bouncing ball, but note that you will be
asked for the lmemroot.bin disk during the installation.

Get back to me if you want any more info.

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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Collin Rose wrote:

 I am trying to install Debian 1.31 r.6 on 386 w/ 5 MB RAM and a 80 MB
 Harddrive and a 3 1/2 floppy. I made a 20 MB swap partition and 2 MB
 minux and then 59.xx MB Linux partition using the rescue disk from an
 old distibution. (kernel 2.0.27?)  When I try to use my 1.31 rescue disk
 I get the low memory remark and am instructed to follow the instuctions
 in the install.html file. It was unclear in the install.html document
 how to go about using the low mem disk. Can anyone help me? Thank you
 for any help you can provide. 
 
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Mounting Mac files...

1997-10-31 Thread jd?
Greetings all,

thanx for all your help thus far (i have my debian box up and running :))
OK i have recently gotten a zip disk formated for a Mac.  i was simply
wondering if and how i could mount it so that i can view the graphics
files on the disk..

Thanx in advance.

jd?
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Re: StarOffice3.1

1997-10-31 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Otavio de Moraes Simoes wrote:

 Hi
 I want to install StarOffice, but it require libc.5.4.4 or newer, while
 the last stable version is 5.4.33-6 or something. Where do I get it? Is
 there another way to install StarOffice, like some experimental debian
 package?

5.4.33 is newer than 5.4.4 (this is not a decimal number).

Bob


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tripwire segfaults

1997-10-31 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
I am trying to use tripwire, but when running
walterp# tripwire -init
### Phase 1:   Reading configuration file
### Phase 2:   Generating file list
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

walterp# tripwire -version

Tripwire version 1.2 (patchlevel 2)

Copyright (c) 1992, 1993, 1994 Purdue Research Foundation
By Gene Kim, Eugene Spafford

The config file is the default one installed with the package.

My system is current from stable, 2 days ago.

Help,

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PCI 100Mbs Ethernet drivers? eepro100 or 3c905?

1997-10-31 Thread Debian mail-lists receiver

Is any work being done on drivers for novell eepro100 or the 3COM 3c905?

I've seen an eepro100 driver in the redhat distribution (initial install),
but it's not in the kernel package (at least not when I last checked).

Granted that such drivers exist, will debian be incorporating them into
the kernel-source.deb package soon?

If not, where can I obtain the drivers?

TIA :-)

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Re: PCI 100Mbs Ethernet drivers? eepro100 or 3c905?

1997-10-31 Thread Ben Pfaff
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 Is any work being done on drivers for novell eepro100 or the 3COM 3c905?
 
 I've seen an eepro100 driver in the redhat distribution (initial install),
 but it's not in the kernel package (at least not when I last checked).

You can find these drivers at
http://cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/linux/drivers.
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basic install problems

1997-10-31 Thread Dirk Kievith
I installed Linux 1.3.1 thru floppies, but run into rough water. I have a
plain 486 DX2 66 Mhz, with 16 MB, 2.1 Gb IDE HDD and a Creative CDrom
(Matsushita - CR 581-M) on a Soundblaster 16 card. 

1. During the installation Linux asks for the device drivers to be installed:

- Block device drivers: cannot figure out what to install?

- CDROM drive: sbpcd is offered, but Linux cannot find any on my system.
Thus I installed plain cdrom.

- Further I installed the serial and parallel port device drivers, plus a NE
2000 driver, though the card is not yet connected to a net work.

Other intall sequence went alright. Then I made a boot-floppy and installed
LILO as I was adviced. 
Only Lilo does not give a boot prompt when pressing Shift on booting only
something like A2E. But no choice available, neither thru Tab not ? and
Linux starts. Then I appended to lilo.conf:
other=/dev/hda1
table=/dev/hda
label=win95

But to no avail. 

Then I tried to use dselect to install the packages but my cdrom is not
being recognized. Dselect asks for the Block Device name; I cannot find any
references to that. So I abandoned that part of the install.

I figured out how to get to the LILO docs and de-installed LILO in order to
get the old boot records in place but now nothing is booting anymore: no
Linux, no Win95; W95 start-up disk searches the floppy-drive for system, not
the HDD.

Questions:

- How to get LILO boot both linux and Win95 (again)?
- How to get Linux recognize the Creative CDROM?
- How to get Linux recognize the SB 16?
- Suppose I do a new install, what drivers are necessary to install during
the installation process?

Thanks,


   
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Re: Just starting - looking for references

1997-10-31 Thread Frank Cullen
Thanks all for the tips.

I couldn't wait for my distribution to arrive so I've borrowed a copy of
Debian ver 1.3  It is a slightly limited copy from a trilinux CD with
all 3 major disributions on 1 disk but should keep me happy untill my
ver 1.3.1 arrives.

I believe that the difference from ver 1.3 to 1.3.1 is basically the
inclusion of Xfree86 3.3

The install went smoothly and I only had to bite my lip a few times when
I got to the dselect part of the install, but the great thing is, I
can run it many times and I dont' have to be in X to browse my available
packages.

Not sure how I should have gone about setting up LILO because the
install process wouldn't let me put lilo on the MBR of my first IDE. (I
installed debian on /dev/hdb2 and /dev/hdb3)

I modified a lilo.conf that I had saved on a DOS partition and it worked
out OK

What I did like is the /etc/X11/window-managers file which rather easily
lets me specify the default window manager.

 So, which of the versions of Unix comes closest to resembling Linux from
 Debian?
 
 I've been using Redhat for a while but I expect the layout of files will
 be different.


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Re: PCI 100Mbs Ethernet drivers? eepro100 or 3c905?

1997-10-31 Thread Mike Keith
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 Is any work being done on drivers for novell eepro100 or the 3COM 3c905?
 
 I've seen an eepro100 driver in the redhat distribution (initial install),
 but it's not in the kernel package (at least not when I last checked).

You can find these drivers at
http://cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/linux/drivers.
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Re: Best version of tetris?

1997-10-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 05:29:47PM +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 A year ago, when I still used Slackware, I had a 'tetris for terminals',
 which was really a program that could be used on any keyboard-and-screen
 terminal. Only 'letter' keys (and maybe Space and Enter, I'm not sure)
 were used and the output was all ASCII. This program was part of the
 Slackware distribution. I believe is was in a 'bsdgames' package, or
 whatever they call it.
 
 Does anybody know what happened to it or where I might get this program? A
 while ago I couldn't find it in the latest Slackware distribution and I
 don't have a CD of the older one, since my network connection is fast
 enough to download a complete distribution.

I know the one. I compiled it ok on libc5 and it runs alright here,
but I can't get it to compile on libc6, which would be required
for a package to be created. It uses varargs and I don't know how
to port that to something modern (I think it is approaching 10 years old
from memory).

IIRC, I grabbed the source out of the Slackware disks.
(There is a use for them after all ...)

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Re: SB16 Pnp - help...

1997-10-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 01:49:32PM -0500, Will Lowe wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Simoes wrote:
   Do you have a pnp bios?
  Yes, I do
 
 Well,  then,  all you really need to do is compile the kernel with sound
 support.  It might be a little tough to figure out what parameters to
 compile in (DMA channels,  I/O regions,  etc.) because generally one does
 this by booting to Win95 and stealing the parameters from there.
 
 There's no need to use isapnptools,  because your bios will handle setting
 everything up ok.

That's not my experience. I have a PnP BIOS, but how do you know what
settings it has allocated the sound card to tell the sound driver?
Especially when all the other OSs will do their own resource management
on the card, eg Win95 and even Creative's DOS software includes
the Intel plug and play manager. If you knew what IO and IRQ it had
been allocated then it might work, but if you add any more cards
it may well change.

I use isapnptools here and it works just fine.


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Re: SB16 Pnp - help...

1997-10-31 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 That's not my experience. I have a PnP BIOS, but how do you know what
 settings it has allocated the sound card to tell the sound driver?
 Especially when all the other OSs will do their own resource management
 on the card, eg Win95 and even Creative's DOS software includes
 the Intel plug and play manager. If you knew what IO and IRQ it had
 been allocated then it might work, but if you add any more cards
 it may well change.

Oops,  sorry:

I meant to imply that one doesn't need isapnptools to set up the card,  if
one knows what the settings will be.  As I pointed out in an earlier mail,
the simplest way to do this is to boot to windows or dos and steal the
settings from there.  If you already know the settings,  you don't need
isapnptools,  you can just compile them into the kernel.

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Re: basic install problems

1997-10-31 Thread Leonard G. Warden IV
Dirk,

A few questions:

1. After you modified your lilo.conf, did you re-run /sbin/lilo?
2. How is your drive partitioned?
3. What drive letter is your CD-ROM under Windows 95?

Under the Debian install, the ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM drivers are installed by default
(at least on my disk from Linux System Labs). My concern is that your drive is
hooked up to your SB 16 card. I do not know what kind of interface is used for
this card (ATAPI/IDE) or proprietary SB, but even if it is ATAPI/IDE, the
interface is probably not recognized out of the box by GNU/Linux. I would
suggest printing a system summary from Windows 95 (right-click on My Computer,
select Properites, then something about devices.) It will show you a graphical
list of devices in your computer. There will be a Print button. Press it and
select summary. This will at least tell you how things are configured under
Windows 95, which will then give you a hint on how to get them working under
GNU/Linux.

I have had *no* problems making GNU/Linux and Windows 95 co-exist on my machine,
however, I realize I am very lucky: Many people have terrible times getting this
to work. Let me know what you find out, and I will make any suggestions I can.

LGW4

Dirk Kievith wrote:

 I installed Linux 1.3.1 thru floppies, but run into rough water. I have a
 plain 486 DX2 66 Mhz, with 16 MB, 2.1 Gb IDE HDD and a Creative CDrom
 (Matsushita - CR 581-M) on a Soundblaster 16 card.

 1. During the installation Linux asks for the device drivers to be installed:

 - Block device drivers: cannot figure out what to install?

 - CDROM drive: sbpcd is offered, but Linux cannot find any on my system.
 Thus I installed plain cdrom.

 - Further I installed the serial and parallel port device drivers, plus a NE
 2000 driver, though the card is not yet connected to a net work.

 Other intall sequence went alright. Then I made a boot-floppy and installed
 LILO as I was adviced.
 Only Lilo does not give a boot prompt when pressing Shift on booting only
 something like A2E. But no choice available, neither thru Tab not ? and
 Linux starts. Then I appended to lilo.conf:
 other=/dev/hda1
 table=/dev/hda
 label=win95

 But to no avail.

 Then I tried to use dselect to install the packages but my cdrom is not
 being recognized. Dselect asks for the Block Device name; I cannot find any
 references to that. So I abandoned that part of the install.

 I figured out how to get to the LILO docs and de-installed LILO in order to
 get the old boot records in place but now nothing is booting anymore: no
 Linux, no Win95; W95 start-up disk searches the floppy-drive for system, not
 the HDD.

 Questions:

 - How to get LILO boot both linux and Win95 (again)?
 - How to get Linux recognize the Creative CDROM?
 - How to get Linux recognize the SB 16?
 - Suppose I do a new install, what drivers are necessary to install during
 the installation process?

 Thanks,


 Kind regards,

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Re: shell cmd: group name from gid?

1997-10-31 Thread Olivier THARAN
On Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 07:28:02PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
 Using bash, how can I get the group name of a gid?

$ grep :gid: /etc/group | cut -d: -f1

Where you replace gid with the number you need.

grep will find the line in /etc/group containing the string :gid: (have a
look at /etc/group and you'll understand) ; the result is then piped
into cut which retrieves only the first field (-f1) if you separate the
line based on the colon (-d:)

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Trouble with resc1440.bin on new Ultra DMA IDE motherboard

1997-10-31 Thread Gerald Turner
Hello, I've been using debian for about two years now, for work and
home, and this is my first post ever...

A friend of mine enrolled in some programming classes and just bought
himself a new computer.  We were putting the system together last night
and I ran into a serious problem while trying to install linux.  The
debian boot disk (resc1440.bin from 1997-10-13 and 1997-08-01) died just
after the kernel was loaded and booting, after about 10 kernel boot
messages the system rebooted itself (too quick to read just what the
last messages were, maybe PCI stuff).  The system is an AMD K6 200Mhz,
Iwill P55XB2 motherboard, 64Mb, 4.3Gb IBM Ultra DMA IDE drive.  I
thought that the new IDE might have trouble with linux while we were
buying the hardware, but I never would have guessed that linux would
blow up like that.  Has anybody seen this behavior with the debian
disks,
or linux before?  Has anyone tried the new Ultra DMA with linux?

Also the BIOS PCI device listing has something called Serial Bus
Controller, I have never seen this before, strangly it shares the same
interupt with the video card (Matrox Millenium II), I assume this is
part of the Intel 430TX chipset, but have used the TX before, any
idea?

Gerald Turner


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Re: unable to start PCMCIA service

1997-10-31 Thread Holger Brandhorst
Brian Mays wrote:
 
 There is an easy way to get a working kernel and PCMCIA combo.  Do the
 following as root:
 
 1) cd /usr/src/linux
 2) make-kpkg clean
 3) make config
 4) Configure your kernel.
 5) make-kpkg --revision custom.1.0 kernel_image
 6) make-kpkg --revision custom.1.0 modules_image
 7) Install the two .deb files (for the kernel-image-2.0.30 and
pcmcia-modules-2.0.30 packages)

i've tried it - but the the only change i've seen is the addition of a
cryptical alphanumeric part to the error-messages:
so i've got:

pcmcia_core.o unresolved symbol apm_register_callback_R4e72ac41
pcmcia_core.o unresolved symbol apm_unregister_callback_Rb7166c6e
i82365.o unresolved symbol pcibios_present_Ra67d0654
   ^ - and so on

maybe anyone had this before - or even can tell me which
kernel-configuration-option or whatever is missing in my system

Thanks,
have a nice day!
bye - hb!


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Linux as a Firewall

1997-10-31 Thread Kevin Traas
Wow!!!   I'm on the firewall mailing list (http://www.greatcircle.com) where
they've been having a bit of a discussion about the pros/cons of using
Linux as a firewall.

If you're interested, read on

(I think Debian developers will get a bit of a kick regarding what is said
about Slackware/RedHat/Debian developers in general - or, at least, what is
implied)

Anyone here care to comment?

Also, I'm not just posting this to start some type of flame war, etc.  I've
been considering building a commercial product based on Debian Linux - it's
features to include basic firewalling capabilities.  So, I'd like to begin
some discussion in this list on the merits of using Debian as a firewall -
something beyond just IP Masquerading, etc.

Later,
Kevin Traas

-Original Message-
From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greg Whalin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Firewall list firewalls@GreatCircle.COM
Date: Friday, October 31, 1997 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Linux et al PFs


I've been hit by about everything, from one time to another. Be it simple
buffer overflows  - SYN or Smurf attacks. And i've seen linux puke under
conditions that BSD sailed right through. I think that speaks for itself.

Linux isn't anything new to me. Aside from the old SysV/Xenix machines I
used, it was my first personal unix. I have had alot of experience with
it in both firewalled and non-firewalled enviroments. It's a great
personal work enviroment. It can't take high stress. I dare you to take a
Linux 2.X kernel machine- and hit it hard, with a syn attack. It will
puke, unless you have some serious CPU/Memory.

I've seen attacks hit a FreeBSD 2.2.X machine running on a *486/33* that
were correctly filtered and everything went on like normal. Similar
attacks on a Pentium 133 we were useing for testing (which now serves as a
quake server) made it Kernel Panic - AHHHEEE in a matter of about 10
minutes.

Again, i'm only pointing out, it is just not a very suitable OS for large
networks, or anything where you're really worried about security. I could
name off about 10 different bugs - external, and internal, that is default
with most Slackware/Redhat/Debian installations.

The fact is: Linux is not designed by a group of people intent on makeing
a secure OS. It's hacked together, and there is always some new problem
with it. Be that security holes, kernel bugs, etc.

I'd rather place my bets with something time-tested, and worked on by a
set group of experienced individuals.

On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Greg Whalin wrote:

 OK, fine, I can accept that this is your opinion.  Unfortunately,
 platforms adequate for firewall use should not be based upon opinion, but
 on fact and/or example.  What situations were you in when your system
 cracked.  If you have a linux system that is cracking when put to the
 test, then I question your ability to set up a well configured, stable
 machine.  As I have stated, I use several linux servers running on
 (actual) well configured platforms as corporate firewall systems with
 heavy network bandwidth demand.  They perform brilliantly every time.  I
 have zero OS related crashes in over two years of uptime.  In fact, the
 only crashes I have handled are hardware related.  I would venture a
guess
 as to say that your statements are biased, or uninformed, or quite simply
 that you are not setting these systems up correctly.

 I am not here to say that linux is better than any BSD variant.  In fact,
 I am not even discussing any BSD OS.  I am simply stating that your
claims
 as to the stability, reliability, and performance of linux as a viable
 firewall platform are wrong and without any basis of fact or example.

 
 Greg Whalin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, john wrote:

  Actually, i'm on a Linux 2.0.30 machine right now. I've run linux since
  near it's inception and I can say it's a nice OS, for a devolper. I've
  seen it put to the test - and granted - it sometimes runs ok, but far
more
  times i've seen it croak and die, on well configured, stable
machines..
 
  I've been running FreeBSD for all of my commercial applications, be
they
  serveing webpages, or firewalling, and i've been much more impressed
with
  it's stability, sense of security, and in some respects, it's
preformance.
 
  If I was to ever consider useing either of them for something that
needed
  to be protected, I would choose FreeBSD - no questions asked.
 
  But I will always love Linux for my home masqueradeing setup :)
 
  Not saying one is nessescarly better than the other, they both have
their
  applications. But for firewalling, and packet filtering, BSD definatly
has
  the edge. In my opinion.
 
 
  On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Joe Klemmer wrote:
 
   On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, john wrote:
  
In my experience... with the free OS's, this is what I have to say:
   
Linux is good for low bandwidth situations where setup time is a
concern,
and reliability isn't an absolute nesscity.
   
FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD etc 

Re: End of device [was Re: kernel messages]

1997-10-31 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Corey A [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 a Similar thin happened to a good friend of mine, the problem was resolved
 by dd'in /dev/null to the partition
 
 dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdax
 where x is the partition #

/dev/null will not work, use /dev/zero instead.

Torsten

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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
   Whenever I start perl, I get the following warning:
 
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
 LC_CTYPE
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = (unset),
 LC_CTYPE = ISO_8859_1,
 LANG = es_ES
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the C locale.

Try setting LC_CTYPE to es_ES too.  It worked for me with de_DE.

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can't get remote xdm login screen...help!

1997-10-31 Thread Waller Martin MEJ

Hi,

 After getting my Linux pc on the network here at work using DHCP 
(thanks for the help), I've tried getting in via xdm using xwin32, but 
without success.

 Here's the score - if I use xwin32 and try to query the linux machine 
directly, after a very long pause (say a minute?) I get a message saying 
something along the lines of 'Display some obscure network name which isn't 
the network name of the linux machine could not be opened'.

 If i bring up a choser using the 'broadcast' option, I get our SG 
machines on the list with 'willing to manage'.  Selecting one of those 
brings up the xdm login screen.  Fine.  But my linux machine, although on 
the list, has the message 'available' (not 'willing to manage' as with the 
SG machines).  Selecting it just gives the same problem as mentioned above.

 I don't know the difference between 'willing to manage' and 'available' 
but guess that if i could get my linux machine on the list as 'willing to 
manage', then i could login via xdm.

 Can anybody help me?  This is Linux advocacy stuff...

 Martin


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Re: shell cmd: group name from gid?

1997-10-31 Thread Oliver Elphick
Paul Miller wrote:
  Using bash, how can I get the group name of a gid?

Like this:

$ grep :27: /etc/group
sudo:x:27:


and to refine it:

$ grep :27: /etc/group | awk -F: '{print $1}'
sudo


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Re: basic install problems

1997-10-31 Thread Dirk Kievith
At 23:57 30.10.1997 -0600, you wrote:
Dirk,

A few questions:

1. After you modified your lilo.conf, did you re-run /sbin/lilo?

No, but I should have. Will try this.

2. How is your drive partitioned?

1 Primary MSDOS Win 95  app. 900MB
2 Primary Linux rootapp.  30MB
3 Primary Linux swapapp.  50MB
4 Logical Linux usr app. 450MB
5 Logical Linux homeapp. 520MB
6 Logical Linux var app.  50MB

MSDOS was partitioned earlier. Linux was partitioned on the remaining free
space.


3. What drive letter is your CD-ROM under Windows 95?

J:



Under the Debian install, the ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM drivers are installed by default
(at least on my disk from Linux System Labs). 

Same 'official Debian 1.3.1' I installed from. 

My concern is that your drive is
hooked up to your SB 16 card. I do not know what kind of interface is used for
this card (ATAPI/IDE) or proprietary SB, but even if it is ATAPI/IDE, the
interface is probably not recognized out of the box by GNU/Linux. I would
suggest printing a system summary from Windows 95 (right-click on My Computer,
select Properites, then something about devices.) It will show you a graphical
list of devices in your computer. There will be a Print button. Press it and
select summary. This will at least tell you how things are configured under
Windows 95, which will then give you a hint on how to get them working under
GNU/Linux.

The IRQ summary shows standard config of the system:

SB16 at 05, IDE controller at 10 (must be CDROM), IDE at 14.
At IRQ 09 is a CDROM controller, but it is disabled by the system.

Main problem remains how to get Linux recognize or configure it to these
settings. 


I have had *no* problems making GNU/Linux and Windows 95 co-exist on my
machine,
however, I realize I am very lucky: Many people have terrible times getting
this
to work. Let me know what you find out, and I will make any suggestions I can.

You are indeed lucky. Moreover I need my system for my general and other
work and had hoped Linux would enhance and improve the performance of my
machine. Now I get kind of stuck up and may have to stick to Win  co. :-(

Now during installation, is it necessary to specifically install the 'Block'
and other devices, like serial and parallel ports, or does the system
recognize these standard devices by itself??

Dirk. 

LGW4

Dirk Kievith wrote:

 I installed Linux 1.3.1 thru floppies, but run into rough water. I have a
 plain 486 DX2 66 Mhz, with 16 MB, 2.1 Gb IDE HDD and a Creative CDrom
 (Matsushita - CR 581-M) on a Soundblaster 16 card.

 1. During the installation Linux asks for the device drivers to be installed:

 - Block device drivers: cannot figure out what to install?

 - CDROM drive: sbpcd is offered, but Linux cannot find any on my system.
 Thus I installed plain cdrom.

 - Further I installed the serial and parallel port device drivers, plus a NE
 2000 driver, though the card is not yet connected to a net work.

 Other intall sequence went alright. Then I made a boot-floppy and installed
 LILO as I was adviced.
 Only Lilo does not give a boot prompt when pressing Shift on booting only
 something like A2E. But no choice available, neither thru Tab not ? and
 Linux starts. Then I appended to lilo.conf:
 other=/dev/hda1
 table=/dev/hda
 label=win95

 But to no avail.

 Then I tried to use dselect to install the packages but my cdrom is not
 being recognized. Dselect asks for the Block Device name; I cannot find any
 references to that. So I abandoned that part of the install.

 I figured out how to get to the LILO docs and de-installed LILO in order to
 get the old boot records in place but now nothing is booting anymore: no
 Linux, no Win95; W95 start-up disk searches the floppy-drive for system, not
 the HDD.

 Questions:

 - How to get LILO boot both linux and Win95 (again)?
 - How to get Linux recognize the Creative CDROM?
 - How to get Linux recognize the SB 16?
 - Suppose I do a new install, what drivers are necessary to install during
 the installation process?

 Thanks,


 Kind regards,

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Re: basic install problems

1997-10-31 Thread Dirk Kievith
At 00:00 31.10.1997 -0500, you wrote:

Any time you make changes to lilo.conf, you need to run the executable lilo
as root to make the changes take effect.

Hope this helps.

Dave

I had figured that one out, but could not get the machine boot again. Will
try it tough and let you know.
Thanks.
Kind regards,

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Re: SB16 Pnp - help...

1997-10-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Oct 31, 1997 at 12:57:05AM -0500, Will Lowe wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
  That's not my experience. I have a PnP BIOS, but how do you know what
  settings it has allocated the sound card to tell the sound driver?
  Especially when all the other OSs will do their own resource management
  on the card, eg Win95 and even Creative's DOS software includes
  the Intel plug and play manager. If you knew what IO and IRQ it had
  been allocated then it might work, but if you add any more cards
  it may well change.
 
 Oops,  sorry:
 
 I meant to imply that one doesn't need isapnptools to set up the card,  if
 one knows what the settings will be.  As I pointed out in an earlier mail,
 the simplest way to do this is to boot to windows or dos and steal the
 settings from there.  If you already know the settings,  you don't need
 isapnptools,  you can just compile them into the kernel.

Hmmm. My understanding was that 95 would set things up however
it saw fit, rather than whatever the BIOS has given the card. This is
possibly better because generally speaking 95 knows what hardware
you have better than the BIOS (ie due to legacy ISA cards); although
you can allocate IRQs for PNP devices in the BIOS.


thanks,
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Re: can't get remote xdm login screen...help!

1997-10-31 Thread Joost Kooij
On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Waller Martin MEJ wrote:

  Here's the score - if I use xwin32 and try to query the linux machine 
 directly, after a very long pause (say a minute?) I get a message saying 
 something along the lines of 'Display some obscure network name which isn't 
 the network name of the linux machine could not be opened'.
 
  If i bring up a choser using the 'broadcast' option, I get our SG 
 machines on the list with 'willing to manage'.  Selecting one of those 
 brings up the xdm login screen.  Fine.  But my linux machine, although on 
 the list, has the message 'available' (not 'willing to manage' as with the 
 SG machines).  Selecting it just gives the same problem as mentioned above.
 
  I don't know the difference between 'willing to manage' and 'available' 
 but guess that if i could get my linux machine on the list as 'willing to 
 manage', then i could login via xdm.

Can you get xdm to work on your local console?

Did you check /etc/X11/config /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config ? Sorry, can't help
you any better than that.

I used to have machine on a network with a lot of hp and sun servers and
people using exceed in broadcast mode. After I installed linux on my
machine, people thought that it broke the other machines - because my
machine would show up immediately on their chooser, whereas the other
machines would need half a minute or more to respond :-)

Cheers,


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Re: tripwire segfaults

1997-10-31 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
Walter L. Preuninger II writes:
  I am trying to use tripwire, but when running
   walterp# tripwire -init
   ### Phase 1:   Reading configuration file
   ### Phase 2:   Generating file list
   Segmentation fault (core dumped)

You may want to install the tripwire package from hamm, which seems to be ok.
To do that, you first have to install libc6 (there's a nice debian howto about
it which is posted regularly). IMHO it's something worth doing (lots of nice
and up to date packs in hamm...)

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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 30-Oct-97 skrifar Torsten Hilbrich:
 Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Hi,
 
  Whenever I start perl, I get the following warning:
 
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
 LC_CTYPE
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = (unset),
 LC_CTYPE = ISO_8859_1,
 LANG = es_ES
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the C locale.
 
 Try setting LC_CTYPE to es_ES too.  It worked for me with de_DE.
 

  Locale es_ES has Latin-1 character set as default?  If so, just
do a 'unsetenv LC_CTYPE', the LANG variable will see to that the
LC_CTYPE is set properly.

  But I think changing ISO_8859_1 to iso_8859_1 would do the
trick.


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Re: Linux, FAT32 and a mighty odd MBR.

1997-10-31 Thread Adam Heath

-Original Message-
From: Dale Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 1997 9:26 PM
Subject: Linux, FAT32 and a mighty odd MBR.


Hello.

I had a weird problem last night, installing Debian 1.3* on a friends PC.
For what it's worth, it's a PentiumII/266, some hideous amount of memory,
some hideous amount of HD space.

Aside from the SuperMicro motherboard bug [Which has been reported, I'm
fairly sure..], you know, the one where the bootable cd sits there at the
LDLINUX.SYS line.., everything went fairly smoothly.

Until it came to LILO. Installed LILO, booted Linux fine. Added the lines
to boot Win95, it took 2 goes for it to install the new record [it never
complained the first time about failing]. Problem is, it simply doesn't
boot Win95. It says booting Win95, then returns to the LILO prompt.

Ok, a bit of a hassle. He needs his Win95 stuff more than Linux, so I'll
just remove LILO and figure out something else later. lilo -u, lilo -U
both complain that theres no LILO boot signature on /dev/hda. Hence
nothing is removed.

Hmmm. Boot via Win95 rescue disk and fdisk /mbr. Reboot and LILO's STILL
there. Tried this more times than I can recall.. LILO won't die. System
Commander reported some wacky things about the MBR, saying things were
pretty well screwed with it.

The problem remains, I can't seem to overwrite the MBR, not with LILO, not
with fdisk. I found out that the Windows partition was FAT32, but surely
LILO can handle this? [does it make much of a difference with the MBR?]

So, I guess I'm throwing this out to you guys, is this a Windows problem?
A Debian problem? A LILO problem? A FAT32 problem?

Any suggestions for fixing?

Thanks,
D.

Using this setup
/dev/hda1 Win95
/dev/hda2 Linux
/dev/hda3 Linux Swap


/dev/hda   Generic MBR, not Lilo
/dev/hda1 Win95 Boot sector
/dev/hda2 LILO

/dev/hda2 is set as active with FDISK.

Bios reads generic MBR off of /dev/hda.  MBR reads the first sector off the
active partition, ie /dev/hda2.  LILO is now active.  From here, it either
reads the linux kernel, or some other, ie chained, partition.  Solution:
Use FDISK to change active flag.

I don't know why you can't boot win95 from lilo's prompt.  Could we see your
/etc/lilo.conf file?  And a copy of fdisk's output?

(echo /etc/lilo.conf;cat /etc/lilo.conf;echo -n;echo -e
p\nq\n|fdisk)|email.txt

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RE: Linux as a Firewall

1997-10-31 Thread Orn E. Hansen

  The issue of pros/cons of an operating systems are very biased, based on
the person who is talking.  So, I wouldn't expect anything else but a biased
discussion on the matter. :-)  Everyone's favorite horse is the best there
is ;-)

  Just for a point of argument, on another list there were guys talking
about the pros/cons of Hardware... here Linux and Pentium environment was
so good that a SPARC was compared to a 286 in speed (reality turned around
for favouring ones favorite platform :-)


 
 (I think Debian developers will get a bit of a kick regarding what is said
 about Slackware/RedHat/Debian developers in general - or, at least, what is
 implied)
 
 Anyone here care to comment?
 
  Nope.


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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann


On 30 Oct 1997, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:

 Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi,
  
  Whenever I start perl, I get the following warning:
  
  perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
  LC_CTYPE
  perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
  LC_ALL = (unset),
  LC_CTYPE = ISO_8859_1,
  LANG = es_ES
  are supported and installed on your system.
  perl: warning: Falling back to the C locale.
 
 Try setting LC_CTYPE to es_ES too.  It worked for me with de_DE.
 
 Torsten

Or just LC_ALL=es_ES (as I do it with de_DE). This sets all the LC_*
variables.

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Re: Trouble with resc1440.bin on new Ultra DMA IDE motherboard

1997-10-31 Thread Dave Cook
On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Gerald Turner wrote:

Hi Gerald,

 A friend of mine enrolled in some programming classes and just bought
 himself a new computer.  We were putting the system together last night
 and I ran into a serious problem while trying to install linux.  The
 debian boot disk (resc1440.bin from 1997-10-13 and 1997-08-01) died just
 after the kernel was loaded and booting, after about 10 kernel boot
 messages the system rebooted itself (too quick to read just what the
 last messages were, maybe PCI stuff).  The system is an AMD K6 200Mhz,
 Iwill P55XB2 motherboard, 64Mb, 4.3Gb IBM Ultra DMA IDE drive.  I
 thought that the new IDE might have trouble with linux while we were
 buying the hardware, but I never would have guessed that linux would
 blow up like that.  Has anybody seen this behavior with the debian
 disks,
 or linux before?  Has anyone tried the new Ultra DMA with linux?
 
I have an Ultra DMA drive (quantum fireball ST 6.4Gb), with a Asus PL297
Motherboard (PII 266, oc'd to 300) LX Chipset.

I havent seen this problem at all.  Although I don't use U-DMA drive for
linux (if the U-DMA was the your friend is having, I would have thought it
would caused me a problem as well when the drive is probed), it hasnt
caused me any problems at all (I booted from the LSL CD-Rom when I first
installed - and now use a custom kernel). 

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Dave

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Re: unable to start PCMCIA service

1997-10-31 Thread Holger Brandhorst
Steve Kostecke wrote:
 
  pcmcia_core.o unresolved symbol apm_register_callback_R4e72ac41
  pcmcia_core.o unresolved symbol apm_unregister_callback_Rb7166c6e
  i82365.o unresolved symbol pcibios_present_Ra67d0654
 ^ - and so on
 
 Did you select APM and PCI support for your kernel?

yes i did!

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Apache mod_actions enabled by default?

1997-10-31 Thread R Chris Ross
I have been trying to figure out weather mod_actions it enabled on 
my apache server.  According to the apache web page it is compiled in 
by default but does it have to be activated in the http.conf or is it 
already active?


Chris


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Intranet Web Site

1997-10-31 Thread Kevin Traas
This is a little off-topic;however

I've just been tasked with setting up an Intranet Web Server for our company
and I need some help with sizing - I haven't been able to find any info on
this posted on the web anywhere.

Anyway, I want leverage my existing experience with Apache and Debian Linux,
so I'm thinking of putting the two together and coming up with a solution
that will cover what we need.

I need to setup a server that will handle approximately 100-200 concurrent
users accessing fairly typical web site information (mix of text and
graphics).

Any ideas on what I can expect for typical data throughput per user?  100KB
per minute?

If so, then I need a system that will support 200 x 100KB  ==
20,000KB/minute == ~350KB/s throughput.

With these numbers, I don't see network capacity as being a problem.
However, I have no idea what type of hardware I'm going to need to support
this.  i.e. what might I require in the way of CPU, RAM, and Disk I/O?

I assume order of importance will be RAM, CPU, and finally Disk I/O, but
what quantity/quality of each will I require?

One other thing.  I'm probably going to need Apache-SSL

Any help you can provide would be much appreciated.

(BTW, I went to various Apache web sites and haven't been able to find any
of this information or mailing lists pertaining to the Apache Web Server.
Do you know of any?)

Later,

Kevin TraasBaan Business Systems
Systems AnalystLangley, BC, Canada
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Re: Apache mod_actions enabled by default?

1997-10-31 Thread Kevin Traas
Run `/usr/sbin/apache -l | more` to find out which modules are loaded and
active.

Later,
Kevin Traas

-Original Message-
From: R Chris Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, October 31, 1997 2:51 PM
Subject: Apache mod_actions enabled by default?


 I have been trying to figure out weather mod_actions it enabled on
my apache server.  According to the apache web page it is compiled in
by default but does it have to be activated in the http.conf or is it
already active?


 Chris


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Re: 3C509 acting strangely on Win95/Debian dual boot system

1997-10-31 Thread Kevin F. Havener
Bruce Perens wrote:
 
 No, you need to type linux reboot=h, so that when you halt Linux it will
 reset the computer.
 
 Bruce
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I am so stoopid!  I'd like to think I would have eventually figured that
out  Okay so I'm an optimist :)

Like I said before.  By cycling through the hardware setup wizard, I
think I fixed the problem.  Everything's nominal now.  If it comes up
again, I'll try it.


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slang0.99.34-dev install problem

1997-10-31 Thread David Oswald
Hi all...

while trying to install most.deb it occurs that slang0.99.34  needs to
be installed. 

Here are the results of my installation. I could use some help here - I
hope i'm not missing something obvious...


Preparing to replace slang0.99.34-dev 0.99.38-2 (using
/home/doswald/tmp/sln099dv.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement slang0.99.34-dev ...
Skipping deselected package xserver-svga.
Version 5.4.33-6 of libc5-dev already installed, skipping.
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of most:
 most depends on slang0.99.34 (= 0.99.37); however:
  Package slang0.99.34 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing most (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of slang0.99.34-dev:
 slang0.99.34-dev depends on slang0.99.34 (= 0.99.34); however:
  Package slang0.99.34 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing slang0.99.34-dev (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 most
 slang0.99.34-dev


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Re: slang0.99.34-dev install problem

1997-10-31 Thread Ben Pfaff
David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hi all...
 
   while trying to install most.deb it occurs that slang0.99.34  needs to
 be installed. 
 
   Here are the results of my installation. I could use some help here - I
 hope i'm not missing something obvious...

The messages indicate that you tried to install slang0.99.34-dev.
This is different from slang0.99.34 (without -dev).  The latter
(without -dev) is what you need.
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Re: slang0.99.34-dev install problem

1997-10-31 Thread Joost Kooij
On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, David Oswald wrote:

 Hi all...
 
   while trying to install most.deb it occurs that slang0.99.34  needs to
 be installed. 
 
   Here are the results of my installation. I could use some help here - I
 hope i'm not missing something obvious...
 
 
 Preparing to replace slang0.99.34-dev 0.99.38-2 (using
 /home/doswald/tmp/sln099dv.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement slang0.99.34-dev ...
 Skipping deselected package xserver-svga.
 Version 5.4.33-6 of libc5-dev already installed, skipping.
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of most:
  most depends on slang0.99.34 (= 0.99.37); however:
   Package slang0.99.34 is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing most (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of slang0.99.34-dev:
  slang0.99.34-dev depends on slang0.99.34 (= 0.99.34); however:
   Package slang0.99.34 is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing slang0.99.34-dev (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  most
  slang0.99.34-dev

get the slang0.99.34 .deb from the archive and install that one first.
then slang0.99.34-dev will work, then most will too.

If you use dselect then all these dependency problems get resolved by
dselect before they get a chance to bite you. It is not entirely trivial
to get it to work on packages that you've already downloaded though. But
if you can ftp to the net, then using dselect's ftp method is a breeze.

Cheers,


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Re: SB16 Pnp - help...

1997-10-31 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 01:49:32PM -0500, Will Lowe wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bruno Simoes wrote:
 
   Do you have a pnp bios?
  Yes, I do
 
 Well,  then,  all you really need to do is compile the kernel with sound
 support.  It might be a little tough to figure out what parameters to
 compile in (DMA channels,  I/O regions,  etc.) because generally one does
 this by booting to Win95 and stealing the parameters from there.
 
 There's no need to use isapnptools,  because your bios will handle setting
 everything up ok.
   Will

Maybe this is true, maybe not. Sometimes the PnP Bios is sufficient,
sometimes it only initializes a part of the adresses. In this case you have
to use ISAPnPtools anyway.

The best way to check is to try it. For the SB 16, there is a good chance
that PnP Bios is enough, but for every soundcard that has more devices you
have to use ISAPnPtools, otherwise you would be missing e.g. midi sound.

Thank you,
Marcus


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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Andy Dougherty
Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Whenever I start perl, I get the following warning:
 
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
 LC_CTYPE
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = (unset),
 LC_CTYPE = ISO_8859_1,
 LANG = es_ES
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the C locale.

The warning message means what it says.  The message is telling you that
setting the locale for LC_CTYPE failed.  You currently have
LC_CTYPE=ISO_8859_1.  Check if that locale is supported and installed on
your system.  I'm pretty sure you can find locales in /usr/lib/locale. 
Check carefully, and note that the setting is case sensitive.  That is,
you might have iso_8859_1, but not ISO_8859_1. 

Hoe this helps,

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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 31-Oct-97 skrifar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Try setting LC_CTYPE to es_ES too.  It worked for me with de_DE.
 
 Torsten
 
 Or just LC_ALL=es_ES (as I do it with de_DE). This sets all the LC_*
 variables.
 

  What LC_ALL variable will do, is *force* all variables to that setting,
this however is *not* always the desired result.  Let me give you an
example... if you're on a modern advanced workstation (Not Linux, but one
that has locales fully functional), then...

  LC_ALL = is_IS

  Will cause the result of 'date' command to be...

Lau, 1 Nóv 1997. 17:24:00 GMT

  Which *legedly* causes some scripts to malfunction, because they expect
a C style date.  The date is controlled by the LC_TIME variable, but
changing this one, won't matter, as the LC_ALL variable has precedence.  So,
you either have to have ALL variables the locale, or ALL to the C style.

  But, by undefining the LC_ALL variable and using the LANG variable
instead.  You can then select which category is what.  You can thus set
your LANG to...

  LANG = is_IS
  LC_TIME = C

  And then the fields LC_NUMERIC, LC_MESSAGES, LC_COLLATE, LC_CTYPE and
LC_MONETARY will function as the locale specifies.  But the result of
the 'date' command...

Sat Nov  1 1997. 17:24:00 GMT

  ...the C locale as specified by the LC_TIME variable.  Thus, you have
a better control over you locale's settings.


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Re: On entering a secure directory, would like warning.

1997-10-31 Thread Kevin Buhr
Jameson Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I have been told to display a warning message whenever a person enters a 
 particular, secure, directory.  Of course, on first thought this is a 
 lame idea since people can access a directory without using cd.

A fairly clean solution that might do what you want is to restrict
access to the directory to a particular group.  Then, force people to
run a simple setgid program that prints the warning message on stderr
and starts a shell (or, perhaps, a program specified on the command
line).  Having the shell prompt change to reflect the secure status
might be a nice touch here.

This has the advantages that (1) no one can access the directory
without seeing the message; and (2) you can log accesses to the
directory, if desired.  An obvious disadvantage is that it complicates
casual access to the directory; for example, if I'm running an editor
and want to get a file from the secure directory, it could be pretty
awkward.

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Non-Fatal Crash any ideas?

1997-10-31 Thread Daniel J. Mashao
Hi 

My system crashes with the following output. It basically responds
slower and programs such at 'top' do not work. Any ideas? I am using and
AMD K6 233 with 128M

Any ideas?

kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 05b78808, next= , order=4
kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 00091aec, next= , order=3
general protection: 
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[0010c8bb]
EFLAGS: 00010006
eax: 656d6974   ebx: 001998b1   ecx: 0023af6f   edx: 270f
esi: 75410072   edi:    ebp: 00e54fbc   esp: 00e54f94
ds: 0018   es: 0018   fs: 002b   gs: 002b   ss: 0018
Process kmeans (pid: 6859, process nr: 27, stackpage=00e54000)
Stack:  7500444d 00e54fbc 00e54fbc 0032 0002 b95c
0010b5c8 
    00e54fbc 9ea5 bfec47e6 0001 0032 0002
b95c 
   ffbb 002b 002b 002b 002b fffe 0804980b
0023 
Call Trace: [0010b5c8] 
Code: ff d0 8b 5b 14 83 c4 0c 85 db 75 e9 f7 c6 00 00 00 10 74 09 
Aiee, killing interrupt handler


Any pointers appreciated
- Daniel

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Afterstep

1997-10-31 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Hi-

I am running afterstep and I would like to take advantage of some of what
it has to offer by modifying the .steprc.  Where is the global/default
.steprc file located?  I would like to copy this file into my home
directory and customize it.  If this is not possible, where could I
download a default .steprc file with no modifications?

Thanks in advance!

Ian


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[OFF-TOPIC] C++ template question

1997-10-31 Thread Shaleh
This is mostly off topic but

How do you compile a template class into an object file WITHOUT
instantiating it???  g++ happily compiles the .o file but bombs out when
it tries to link later.  Any suggestions happily accepted.  Either to
the list or me personally.


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] C++ template question

1997-10-31 Thread Qiang Rao
For template classes, the class has to be in the header file only, it
can't have separate files for header and class file.

When you want to use the template class, only include the header file,
and compile only the test file, not the template class file.

Ex.
template class file : bar.h
test file: foo.c

#include bar.h
void main(void) {
...
}

and compile using g++ -o foo foo.c

Qiang 


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Re: Afterstep

1997-10-31 Thread Paul Miller
/etc/X11/afterstep/system.steprc

-Paul

On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Ian Keith Setford wrote:

 
 Hi-
 
 I am running afterstep and I would like to take advantage of some of what
 it has to offer by modifying the .steprc.  Where is the global/default
 .steprc file located?  I would like to copy this file into my home
 directory and customize it.  If this is not possible, where could I
 download a default .steprc file with no modifications?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Ian
 
 
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Re: * Formal call for the removal of Bruce Perens *

1997-10-31 Thread Chris Fearnley
'dc wrote:'

Enough is enough.

Where is your announcement of candidacy for project leader?  Elections
will be held soon ...

I want to see your reasoned proposals for a better direction for the
project.  Too much of what you write is anti-Bruce and it's hard for
me to tell exactly what solution you feel will set things straight.

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RE: chimera compile: package dependencies

1997-10-31 Thread G. Crimp

Hi,

In a previous post I asked for help compiling  the chimera-1.65 
web browse. When I ran xmkmf -a, I got the following message: 

bash# xmkmf -a
imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
imake: Exit code 33.  Stop.
bash#

Someone (I think it was Joost.  Sorry if I got your name wrong.  
I don't have the message anymore.) was kind enough to tell me that I 
needed xlib6-dev to get the missing files.  I've got them  from the 
Debian site but as a result have been sent on a depedency chase.  I have 
lost my way and would be greatful for some more help.

I will include the messages I received while unpacking and installing 
the various packages downloaded, but first, here is a summary of the 
trail I have taken:

- downloaded xlib6-dev_3.3-4.deb required xlib6
- I acquired xlib6_3.3-4.deb which needs libc5 (= 5.4.0-0
  The installed version was 5.2.18-9.
- The site says that libc5 depends on ldso = 1.7.14-2 and
  libc6 = 2.0.4-1.
- I downloaded ldso_1.8.12-1.deb.  I was confused about which 
  libc6 to get so thought I would try to unpack install libc5
  and read the error messages.

Here things start to get confusing for someone just reading about 
what I've done.

- unpacking installing ldso failed because of files it couldn't find.
  I don't know what they are or where to get them.
- unpacking/installing libc5 also failed due to unfound files.
- I thought unpacking/installing libc6 might provide the files,
  but that failed because of a confilict with libc5.  I thought libc5
  depended on libc6.

- the files that ldso can't find are /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
  and   /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6.
- the files libc5 can't find are /usr/lib/libpthreads.so, 
  /usr/lib/libc.so and /usr/lib/libm.so.



I should mention that I am using Debian 1.1.  

The following is the output from the various unpack/installs that 
failed:

# dpkg -i ldso_1.8.12-1.deb 
(Reading database ... 11683 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace ldso (using ldso_1.8.12-1.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement ldso ...
Setting up ldso (1.8.12-1) ...
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (No such file 
or directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (No such file or 
directory), skipping


# dpkg --unpack libc5_5.4.33-6.deb 
(Reading database ... 11683 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libc5 (using libc5_5.4.33-6.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc5 ...

# dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-6.deb 
(Reading database ... 11687 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libc5 (using libc5_5.4.33-6.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc5 ...
Setting up libc5 (5.4.33-6) ...
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libpthreads.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping


# dpkg --unpack libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb 
Selecting previously deselected package libc6.
dpkg: regarding libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb containing libc6:
 libc5 conflicts with libc6
  libc6 (version 2.0.5c-0.1) is to be installed.
dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb (--unpack):
 conflicting packages - not installing libc6
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb


Can anyone tell me how to get back on track so Ican compile chimera ?


Thanks IA,

Gerald


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] C++ template question

1997-10-31 Thread Shaleh
How is the STL shipped then.  We do not have access to its code do we??


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Re: Non-Fatal Crash any ideas?

1997-10-31 Thread Lawrence
It seems that your AMD K6 have the reported 32M hardware bug.  When did
you buy your CPU?  Make sure your K6 is made after week 30 or contact
AMD and they will give you a new one.

By the way, try to compile the linux kernel.  If your CPU have the bug,
then you should not be able to compile the linux kernel.

Daniel J. Mashao wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 My system crashes with the following output. It basically responds
 slower and programs such at 'top' do not work. Any ideas? I am using and
 AMD K6 233 with 128M
 
 Any ideas?
 
 kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 05b78808, next= , order=4
 kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 00091aec, next= , order=3
 general protection: 
 CPU:0
 EIP:0010:[0010c8bb]
 EFLAGS: 00010006
 eax: 656d6974   ebx: 001998b1   ecx: 0023af6f   edx: 270f
 esi: 75410072   edi:    ebp: 00e54fbc   esp: 00e54f94
 ds: 0018   es: 0018   fs: 002b   gs: 002b   ss: 0018
 Process kmeans (pid: 6859, process nr: 27, stackpage=00e54000)
 Stack:  7500444d 00e54fbc 00e54fbc 0032 0002 b95c
 0010b5c8
 00e54fbc 9ea5 bfec47e6 0001 0032 0002
 b95c
ffbb 002b 002b 002b 002b fffe 0804980b
 0023
 Call Trace: [0010b5c8]
 Code: ff d0 8b 5b 14 83 c4 0c 85 db 75 e9 f7 c6 00 00 00 10 74 09
 Aiee, killing interrupt handler
 
 Any pointers appreciated
 - Daniel
 
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Unidentified subject!

1997-10-31 Thread Ron Asimi
I am running a Pentium system with a PS/2 Mouse port.  I am unfamiliar with
Linux and cannot get my mouse to respond.  I am just a newbie... Could
someone please tell me a little about how linux locates and assigns
resources for a mouse?


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Re: Unidentified subject!

1997-10-31 Thread Steve Kostecke
 I am running a Pentium system with a PS/2 Mouse port.  I am unfamiliar with
[snip]

Your ps/2 mouse port is /dev/psaux.



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Re: Unidentified subject!

1997-10-31 Thread Ben Pfaff
Ron Asimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am running a Pentium system with a PS/2 Mouse port.  I am unfamiliar with
 Linux and cannot get my mouse to respond.  I am just a newbie... Could
 someone please tell me a little about how linux locates and assigns
 resources for a mouse?

You need to have the kernel load the `psaux' module.  Add a line with
just `psaux' on it somewhere in /etc/modules.  Then you need to run
some program that actually uses a mouse; i.e., gpm or X Windows.
These will need to be told to use a PS/2 mouse; run XF86Setup or
gpmconfig if you've already installed them.  All of this will need to
be done as root.
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] C++ template question

1997-10-31 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Shaleh wrote:

 This is mostly off topic but
 
 How do you compile a template class into an object file WITHOUT
 instantiating it???  g++ happily compiles the .o file but bombs out when
 it tries to link later.  Any suggestions happily accepted.  Either to
 the list or me personally.

There are only two possible things you could want, I'm not sure which:

1) Cause the compiler to include an instance of the template in a
specific .o file:

#include vector

template class vectorint;

gcc t.cc

2) Prevent the compiler from including an instance of any template in 
any .o file

#include vector

vectorint A;

gcc -fno-implicit-templates t.cc

You will want to use a combination of the two above schemes if your
program has a number of tempaltes. Make one file that contains all of the
template instances explicitly instanciated and compile it without
-fno-implicit-templates. Use -fno-implicit-templates on the rest of your
modules.

Jason


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Re: * Formal call for the removal of Bruce Perens *

1997-10-31 Thread Bruce Perens
Leave Dave alone, he's already abandoned this argument.

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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Pere Camps
Torsten,

 Try setting LC_CTYPE to es_ES too.  It worked for me with de_DE.

It worked for me too... but now I can't put accented characters in
bash! 

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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Oct 31, 1997 at 05:31:46PM +0100, Orn E. Hansen wrote:
 
 Þann 31-Oct-97 skrifar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  Try setting LC_CTYPE to es_ES too.  It worked for me with de_DE.
  
  Torsten
  
  Or just LC_ALL=es_ES (as I do it with de_DE). This sets all the LC_*
  variables.
  
 
   What LC_ALL variable will do, is *force* all variables to that setting,
 this however is *not* always the desired result.  Let me give you an
 example... if you're on a modern advanced workstation (Not Linux, but one
 that has locales fully functional), then...
 
   LC_ALL = is_IS
 
   Will cause the result of 'date' command to be...
 
 Lau, 1 Nóv 1997. 17:24:00 GMT
 
   Which *legedly* causes some scripts to malfunction, because they expect
 a C style date.  The date is controlled by the LC_TIME variable, but
 changing this one, won't matter, as the LC_ALL variable has precedence.  So,
 you either have to have ALL variables the locale, or ALL to the C style.
 
   But, by undefining the LC_ALL variable and using the LANG variable
 instead.  You can then select which category is what.  You can thus set
 your LANG to...
 
   LANG = is_IS
   LC_TIME = C
 
   And then the fields LC_NUMERIC, LC_MESSAGES, LC_COLLATE, LC_CTYPE and
 LC_MONETARY will function as the locale specifies.  But the result of
 the 'date' command...
 
 Sat Nov  1 1997. 17:24:00 GMT
 
   ...the C locale as specified by the LC_TIME variable.  Thus, you have
 a better control over you locale's settings.

Yes, but LC_ALL is for the lazy ones, like me :)

You are right in all points, although I don't know the meaning of legedly
(my dictionary does not know it, too).

I would consider a script that depends on the setting of a locale as buggy,
So I would encourage LC_ALL for people that want to do testing. If a script
really does need C locale, it should be wise enough to set it temporarly.

Thank you,
Marcus

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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Pere Camps
Orn,

   Locale es_ES has Latin-1 character set as default?  If so, just
 do a 'unsetenv LC_CTYPE', the LANG variable will see to that the
 LC_CTYPE is set properly.

Perl doesn't complain anymour if I unset LC_CTYPE, but bash does.
It doesn't let me put latin-1 characters.

   But I think changing ISO_8859_1 to iso_8859_1 would do the
 trick.

It doesn't. :(

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] C++ template question

1997-10-31 Thread Daniel Martin
On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Shaleh wrote:

 How is the STL shipped then.  We do not have access to its code do we??
 

First off, since it's an official part of Debian, yes, we must have access
to the code somehow.

But aside from that, yes, _any_ template library that someone provides for
developers to use must be provided in source code form.  The standard
templates shipped with MSVC/C++ are all shipped in source code form.

The best way I've found to think of templates is as compiler macros.  (no,
I didn't say pre-processor macros, I said compiler macros - this means
that templates are more intelligent than preprocessor expansions).  They
don't actually generate any code until they are invoked; this is because
the code they could generate can't really be determined ahead of time -
how is the compiler going to know ahead of time whether 'a + b' occuring
in a piece of template code will eventually refer to one of the builtin
meanings of addition, or to a function of the form
type type::operator+(type arg)
or a function of the form
type operator+(type a, type b)
?  The short answer is that the compiler can't know - C++ allows so
many results from similar-looking code that the compiler just can't
compile templates by themselves.  However, once a template is
instantiated, then the compiler can go ahead and determine the basics of
what the code means.

This is why splitting templates into header and .c files doesn't make much
sense, any more than it would make sense to try to pre-compile
preprocessor macros.  (This is just one of the reasons why I find
templates nasty to work with, and really prefer to work in a language that
is completely object-oriented - the use of templates always seems
ridiculously arcane to me)


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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-10-31 Thread Pere Camps
Andy,

 setting the locale for LC_CTYPE failed.  You currently have
 LC_CTYPE=ISO_8859_1.  Check if that locale is supported and installed on
 your system.  I'm pretty sure you can find locales in /usr/lib/locale. 

I only hace en_GB there, but in /usr/share/locale I have all the
others. The thing is that -I think- I have installed all the needed
packages for locale support, but perl is not getting it. Bash doesn't
complain about LC_CTYPE. In fact, if I unset LC_CTYPE, I can't type
latin-1 characters in it.

 Check carefully, and note that the setting is case sensitive.  That is,
 you might have iso_8859_1, but not ISO_8859_1. 

I tried, but it didn't work.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Thanks and a question

1997-10-31 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Howard S. Ostrowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 It turns out that my problem was due to the fact that I had
 LD_PRELOAD set to libgnumalloc.so.5, which is apparently no
 longer needed with libc6.  But my question is this:  I had 
 added this environment variable long ago because it was needed
 by some program (I can't recall which one!).  But I have no idea
 what LD_PRELOAD is really for.

This was a hack to switch to using a different memory allocator because
Netscape had some buffer overrun problems. LD_PRELOAD caused
libgnumalloc.so.5 to be loaded before the C library.

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RE: chimera compile: package dependencies

1997-10-31 Thread Joost Kooij
On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, G. Crimp wrote:

   Someone (I think it was Joost.  Sorry if I got your name wrong.  
 I don't have the message anymore.) was kind enough to tell me that I 
 needed xlib6-dev to get the missing files.  I've got them  from the 
 Debian site but as a result have been sent on a depedency chase.  I have 
 lost my way and would be greatful for some more help.
 
   I will include the messages I received while unpacking and installing 
 the various packages downloaded, but first, here is a summary of the 
 trail I have taken:

[ description of Gerald downloading packages and installing with dpkg -i ]

With dpkg -I package.deb you can always check the control info of a
package to see if it depends on another package. With dpkg -l package
you can check if you've already got the package and if it is a recent
enough version. 

When you find a lot of dependencies, it makes sense to write the
dependencies down in a sort of scheme and use that scheme to fetch and
install packages in the right order.

When you find a lot of dependencies and it looks like you'll need a lot of
paper to write down the package names and their interdependency scheme,
use dselect (in fact, always use dselect.) Dselect takes care of all the
dependency bookkeeping for you. All you need is to have a working net
connection. Choose ftp in the access menu in dselect and confirm all the
defaults. It should work in 99% of all cases. 

   I should mention that I am using Debian 1.1.  

Aargh! then you should definately use dselect!
Better yet, unless you have a T1 connection, get a cd with debian 1.3.1r5
or something recent. Use dselect on that.

Whatever you do, first upgrade libc5 and ldso and dpkg manually.
Probably dpkg-ftp and an occasional dependency also. Then use dselect.

   The following is the output from the various unpack/installs that 
 failed:

 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (No such file 
 or directory), skipping
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (No such file or 
 directory), skipping

Check the directory /usr/X11R6/lib for dangling symlinks.
 
 # dpkg --unpack libc5_5.4.33-6.deb 
 (Reading database ... 11683 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace libc5 (using libc5_5.4.33-6.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement libc5 ...

Huh? no need to unpack manually if you are using dpkg -i in the next step,
dpkg -i already unpacks.
 
 # dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-6.deb 
 (Reading database ... 11687 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace libc5 (using libc5_5.4.33-6.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement libc5 ...
 Setting up libc5 (5.4.33-6) ...

 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libpthreads.so (No such file or 
 directory), skipping
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or 
 directory), skipping
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or 
 directory), skipping

Again, check the directory contents. Don't be too hasty in attempting to
repair though, this might be caused by half-finished installations. Lets
hope for now that doing the installation right will fix it at some time.
 
 # dpkg --unpack libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb 
 Selecting previously deselected package libc6.
 dpkg: regarding libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb containing libc6:
  libc5 conflicts with libc6
   libc6 (version 2.0.5c-0.1) is to be installed.
 dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb (--unpack):
  conflicting packages - not installing libc6
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb

GAACK!?! You are trying to install hamm (2.0) packages straight from a
buzz (1.1) system? That is asking for trouble! Do a dpkg --purge libc6 and
wait until you've got your system reasonably up to date. Then read the
libc5-libc6 HOWTO http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ before installing
_anything_ from unstable. 

 Can anyone tell me how to get back on track so Ican compile chimera ?

If all you want is to compile chimera, then all you need is stuff like
xlib6-dev, or whatever it was called like in buzz (debian 1.1.x). If you
still have a buzz cd, then install it from that cd.  Unfortunately, yuo
have a slightly messed up system now and you have to decide if you want
to:  
- go all the way and install debian 1.3 (and maybe eventually debian
2.0).  That will take several megabytes (probably over a hundred for a
more or less complete update) to download or several days to wait for an
ordered cd or several miles to a decent bookstore to get a cd.
Bonus is that you get the newer packages, with lots of bugs fixed (nasty
samba bugs for example). 
- reinstall the packages you have been installing, but do it from a 1.1
cd. dpkg -i is enough to unpack, install and configure.
Bonus is that it is probably faster and easier (but you do need that 1.1
cd.)

My advice is to order a 1.3.1r5 debian official cd.

Good luck,


Joost


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Trouble?  

printing and samba

1997-10-31 Thread Paul Miller
I have three questions:

(1) How should I have security setup so only those users in a specific
group can print?  In addition, the /etc/lpd directory can not be
accessable by any users because of the passwords for samba.  Currently
I have /usr/bin/(lp,lpc,lpq,lpr,lpraccnt,lprm,lpstat) set to
-r-sr-xr-x  lp lp

(2) How do I print in color?  Netscape has the option of color, but it
won't print in color.  I'm using a HP DJ660C shared on a win95
machine with magicfilter's dj550c-filter. 

Here is my printcap:
---
lp|hp_dj660c|HP Deskjet 660C:\
:cm=HP Deskjet 660C:\
:lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/local/sbin/hp_dj660c:\

:af=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c/acct:lf=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c/errs:
---
Here is my hp_dj660c:
---
#!/bin/sh

/usr/sbin/dj550c-filter $* | (

logfile=/tmp/smb-print.log
# logfile=/dev/null

eval acct_file=\$$#
spool_dir=`dirname $acct_file` 
config_file=$spool_dir/.config

eval `cat $config_file`

echo server $server, service $service  $logfile

(
# NOTE You may wish to add the line `echo translate' if you want automatic
# CR/LF translation when printing.
#echo translate
echo print -
cat
) | /usr/bin/smbclient $server\\$service $password -U $server -N -P  
$logfile

)
---

(3) will the line:
'/usr/bin/smbclient $server\\$service $password...' show up in
programs like top?  If so, how can I prevent users from seeing the
password?


Thanks in advance,
-Paul


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remote xdm login screen probs - more info

1997-10-31 Thread Waller Martin MEJ

Hi,

 Using dhcp to get my linux box to sit on the (Win NT/95) network here 
at work.  Fine - i can telnet in OK.

 Tryng to get a remote xsession going using xwin32 from a win 95 
machine.  It'll show up on a choser list if i do a xdmcp -broadcast thing 
with xwin32 (shows up as 'available' whilst there's some sgi's which come up 
as 'willing to manage').

 Anyway, selecting my machine won't bring up the xdm login window (will 
with the sgi's...), i just get some error message from xwin32 whihc exactly 
is:

XDMCP: Session failed: session 369920001 failed for display 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com:0:cannot open display

(UKJJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com is the name of the machine from which I'm 
trying to connect).

Meanwhile, on the linux box my /var/log/xdm-errors file is as follows:



XF86Config file stuff
.
xdm error (pid 244): Cannot convert Internet address 156.71.78.38 to host 
name
xdm error (pid 244): Cannot convert Internet address 156.71.78.38 to host 
name
.
.
(lots of times)
.
.
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for 
UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com
xdm error (pid 601): server open failed for UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com:0, 
giving up
xdm error (pid 244): Display UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com:0 cannot be opened
xdm error (pid 244): Display UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com:0 is being 
disabled

where 156.71.78.38 is the numeric address of UKJHAG217600.ukjh.zeneca.com.

The nameserver's set OK (from dhcp), so it's not that.

Any body got a clue?

Ta,

 Martin


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[OFF-TOPIC] linux-kernel list is down?

1997-10-31 Thread Eloy A. Paris
My apologies for the absolutely off-topic question here, but does any
one know if the linux-kernel mailing list is down? I haven't received
anything in the past days and that's quite strange given it is a high
volume list, comparable to debian-user.

Thanks,

E.-

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] linux-kernel list is down?

1997-10-31 Thread Joey Hess
Eloy A. Paris wrote:
 My apologies for the absolutely off-topic question here, but does any
 one know if the linux-kernel mailing list is down? I haven't received
 anything in the past days and that's quite strange given it is a high
 volume list, comparable to debian-user.

Everyone was unsubscribed (again). Resubscribe.

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X, S3 server, and #9 Motion 771

1997-10-31 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone

There appears to be a problem in the X3.3 packages.  I have a #9 Motion
771.  I can run XF86Setup, and I can enter all of the setup info.  But
then when I click Done and it tries to start the server for my card, it
dies.

It says starting server, the screen blanks, it flickers a couple times,
and then the hard drive stops running and it locks there with the blank
screen.

Any ideas?  I had X running just fine with X3.2.  Anyone know if the
3.2 packages are still around somewhere?

Some more info about my system:

kernel 2.0.27
#9 FX Motion 771, local bus, with 4 megs of vram

Eh, thats all, let me know if you need more info.


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