Re: default Debian smail-fetchmail

1997-11-02 Thread Roberto Ruiz

On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Cullen wrote:
> 
> However, I made a .fetchmailrc file which was supposed to poll for 
> mail and it worked.  I was looking for some kind of fetchmail log file but 
> found this file:  /var/log/smail/logfile
> 
> which contained information about the mail I had succesfully downloaded. 
> Does this mean that fetchmail is merely an interface to smail and that
> smail actually grabbed the messages? 

Nop. Upon receiving the mail, fetchmail passes it to the local smail or
sendmail (whichever is answering to port 25) to do the deliver to local
recipes. This is to allow the normal mail deliver features, so such
features as ~/.forward file work, and let you filter your mail with
procmail or another program.

> My fetchmail command line to use my new rc file was 
> fetchmail -f .fetchmailrc
> 
> BTW: one of the options in my .fetchmailrc was "keep" which let me 
> leave the mail on the server but on successive fetchmail commands it 
> downloaded the same messages again. I suppose there must be some way of 
> telling it not to grab mail that has already been downloaded.

Yes, but it's the default behaivor of fetchmail, for that I presume that,
where you put the keep option, there is a fetchall option too, don't put
that option, and then already fetched mail will be ignored.

See you
Roberto Ruiz




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Re: dpkg-source

1997-11-02 Thread James Troup
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./ppp_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz' contains
> > object (ppp-2.3.1/) not in expected directory (ppp-2.3.1.orig)
>
> You need to upgrade your patch package to the one in unstable, I
> believe.

You also need dpkg-source from dpkg-dev 1.4.0.19.

> The patch in unstable creates patch files that can't be read by the
> patch in stable.

It's not that, the problem is the use of pristine upstream sources
which isn't supported by dpkg-source 1.4.0.8.

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Re: dpkg-source

1997-11-02 Thread Jim Pick
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> Having a desire to look at the ppp_2.3.1 sources, I went to unstable on
> ftp.debian.org  and got what I guessed were the appropriate files:
> ppp_2.3.1-3.diff.gz, ppp_2.3.1-3.dsc, and ppp_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz.  I stuck
> these in a directory, and, after perusing the dpkg-source man page, issued
> the command:
> 
>   dpkg-source -x ppp_2.3.1-3.dsc
> 
> and got this result:
> 
>   dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./ppp_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz' contains object 
>   (ppp-2.3.1/) not in expected directory (ppp-2.3.1.orig)
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?  I can make no sense of this
> message.

You need to upgrade your patch package to the one in unstable, I believe.
The patch in unstable creates patch files that can't be read by the patch
in stable.

Cheers,

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Re: gcc: Signal 7

1997-11-02 Thread Oliver Elphick
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  >Can anybody tell me what happened when I was compiling a kernel?
  >I got this gcc: signal 7 error and it stopped.  I was doing a make -j.
  >make -j5 seems to work flawlessly.  I've also received a gcc signal 5 
  >before, and I don't know what that is, either.
  >
  >Can anybody tell me what these are, or where I can find out myself?
 
`man 7 signal', which says (among other things):

   Signal   Value Action   Comment
   -
   SIGTRAP5 CG Trace/breakpoint trap
   SIGIOT 6 CG IOT trap. A synonym for SIGABRT
   SIGEMT   7,-,7   G
   SIGBUS  10,7,10  AG Bus error


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Re: default Debian smail-fetchmail

1997-11-02 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Cullen wrote:

> However, I made a .fetchmailrc file which was supposed to poll for 
> mail and it worked.  I was looking for some kind of fetchmail log file but 
> found this file:  /var/log/smail/logfile
> 
> which contained information about the mail I had succesfully 
> downloaded.   Does this mean that fetchmail is merely an interface to smail 
> and 
> that smail actually grabbed the messages?
> 
Fetchmail does fetch your mail from your isp and feeds your local smail
with it (it does a connect to your smtp port). Therefore you get the
lines in the smail log.

This way the mail can be processed by smail (using procmail, filter,
.forward et al.)

> My fetchmail command line to use my new rc file was 
> fetchmail -f .fetchmailrc
> 
> BTW: one of the options in my .fetchmailrc was "keep" which let me 
> leave the mail on the server but on successive fetchmail commands it 
> downloaded the same messages again. I suppose there must be some way of 
> telling it not to grab mail that has already been downloaded.
> 
 -a, --all
  (Keyword:  fetchall)  Retrieve  both old (seen) and
  new messages from the mailserver.  The  default  is
  to  fetch  only  messages the server has not marked
  seen.  Note that POP2 retrieval behaves  as  though
  --all  is  always  on  (see RETRIEVAL FAILURE MODES
  below) and this option does not work with ETRN.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: default Debian smail-fetchmail

1997-11-02 Thread Daniel Martin
On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Cullen wrote:

> A question about the initial smail configuration for Debian 1.3
> 
> I have never setup mail with any Linux dist before so I'm trying to 
> work out what happens whenever.
> 
> I was going to try to setup sendmail  with fetchmail to get POP mail 
> but the default installation setup smail which is supposed to be easier.
>
WEll, my experience is admittedly limited, and it did take me quite a
while to get my mail set up the way I want it, but from what I can tell
smail is definitely easier.

> 
> However, I made a .fetchmailrc file which was supposed to poll for 
> mail and it worked.  I was looking for some kind of fetchmail log file but 
> found this file:  /var/log/smail/logfile
> 
> which contained information about the mail I had succesfully 
> downloaded.   Does this mean that fetchmail is merely an interface to smail 
> and 
> that smail actually grabbed the messages?
>

Well... fetchmail was the program that actually went and got the messages.
However, if you read the fetchmail manpage, you will discover that what
fetchmail does is make a POP (or IMAP) connection to a mailserver,
download each message, and as it is downloading connect to your local
machine and send the mail via SMTP.  That is, fetchmail lets whatever is
on your local machine handling incoming mail take care of it.  In your
case, this means that fetchmail gets the mail off the server and then
hands it to smail, which then takes care of putting it into the correct
files on your machine.  (and therefore if you were using some mail filter,
smail would then hand the fetched mail off to that filter as normal).
This is why the messages you downloaded appeared in the smail logs;
although fetchmail handled pulling them from the POP server, smail handled
the local delivery.

> 
> My fetchmail command line to use my new rc file was 
> fetchmail -f .fetchmailrc
> 
You can cause fetchmail to log to a file by running it with -L logfilename
- also, you can get it to log to syslog with --syslog.  However, I
wouldn't advise using either of these options normally, since they're just
intended for debugging purposes.

> BTW: one of the options in my .fetchmailrc was "keep" which let me 
> leave the mail on the server but on successive fetchmail commands it 
> downloaded the same messages again. I suppose there must be some way of 
> telling it not to grab mail that has already been downloaded.
> 
Hmmm I'm not certain there is, since I'm not certain how fetchmail
could tell with a POP server what it's already downloaded and what it
hasn't.  Now, with an IMAP server there might be some hope, but I don't
think that fetchmail is that sophisticated yet.


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Re: Where is Navigator .deb file?

1997-11-02 Thread Will Lowe
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There isn't a .deb of Navigator -- there's a .deb navigator installer.
Basically,  you download the proper .tar.gz file from netscape's site,
download the .deb installer package,  and the package installs netscape
properly for you,  rather than you trying to do it yourself.

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dpkg-source

1997-11-02 Thread john
Having a desire to look at the ppp_2.3.1 sources, I went to unstable on
ftp.debian.org  and got what I guessed were the appropriate files:
ppp_2.3.1-3.diff.gz, ppp_2.3.1-3.dsc, and ppp_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz.  I stuck
these in a directory, and, after perusing the dpkg-source man page, issued
the command:

dpkg-source -x ppp_2.3.1-3.dsc

and got this result:

dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./ppp_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz' contains object 
(ppp-2.3.1/) not in expected directory (ppp-2.3.1.orig)

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?  I can make no sense of this
message.
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Year 2000

1997-11-02 Thread Arran Price
Hi all,

Is there anyone out there can give me any information regarding linux 
or more specifically debian in relation to the Y2k problem?

We run a couple of debian boxes in production and my manager has been 
asked to do an audit on how complient these machines are as far as 
year 2000.

Any information or pointers to information greatly appreciated.

cheers
Arran

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DNS setup

1997-11-02 Thread Sean Preston
I am trying to setup my Linux machine as a server on a local network. 
 Later on I will be connecting to the Internet by dial-up.  At the 
moment I have set the Linux box up as the gateway and dns server and 
it is also the server on the network. I am using debian of 
course (kernel 2.0.30).

I want to be able to connect to the linux box using both windows 95 
machines and windows 3.x machines.  At the moment I am having hassles 
setting up bind.  I have read the dns howto and have got some of it 
setup.  At the moment the 95 machines are able to connect to the 
linux machine if I use the ip address and as long as I have entries 
for each machine in the zone files.  I am unable to connect usig the 
host name or domain name.  I would like to know what I have to put in 
what files so that it will work properly.  I would also like to know 
how to se tthe dns up so that I don't have to have entries for each 
machine that it going to connect as I don't think it is right. :)

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Sean


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Re: Can Debian replace Windows NT Server?

1997-11-02 Thread Toens Bueker
Am Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 10:45:40AM +0100, meinte Christian Leutloff:
> 
> so far as a know the main problem is the not documented communication
> between the servers. But on the other hand there should be
> authentication against the Samba server possible with the next major
> release.
> 
> I'm searching a solution for this problem to. There was sometime ago
> an announcement that a company provides a commercial solution for the
> authentication problem.

Have a look at the new samba-beta-versions. Furthermore
the newsgroup comp.protocols.smb will provide latest
developments in the area of authentication, etc.

By
Töns

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Re: Recompiled Kernel, now vplay doesn't work

1997-11-02 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

Did you check to make sure that vplay is still an executable and not an
object (relocatable) file? Running "file /usr/bin/vplay" will give you
this information. Only other thing I can think of is that vplay is an
a.out binary and you didn't compile a.out support in when you moved to
2.0.31. The "file" command can help you check this also. I'm afraid I
don't know how to answer you question about screensavers.

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RE: CGI SCRIPT

1997-11-02 Thread Valerio VALDEZ Paolini
> 
> I mean to be able to control the URL listed in the location window.
> I do JavaScript and I am learning CGI/Perl but I don't know much in it yet.
>

If you mean "to be able to change something stored by Netscape",
I'm quite sure that you can't, because this would be a privacy break:
if you can change, you can read. Something similar (read only I think),
is possible with document.history, accessible via javascript.   

Am I right?

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gcc: Signal 7

1997-11-02 Thread nels0988
Can anybody tell me what happened when I was compiling a kernel?
I got this gcc: signal 7 error and it stopped.  I was doing a make -j.
make -j5 seems to work flawlessly.  I've also received a gcc signal 5 
before, and I don't know what that is, either.

Can anybody tell me what these are, or where I can find out myself?

Also, does anybody know a good stresstest for a new motherboard?
I've run the memtest86.bin for about 18 hours without flaw.
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Re: Linux, FAT32 and a mighty odd MBR.

1997-11-02 Thread Mike Orr
On Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 01:15:06PM +1100, Dale Harrison wrote:
> Until it came to LILO. Installed LILO, booted Linux fine. Added the lines
> to boot Win95, it took 2 goes for it to install the new record [it never
> complained the first time about failing]. Problem is, it simply doesn't
> boot Win95. It says "booting Win95", then returns to the LILO prompt.
> 
> The problem remains, I can't seem to overwrite the MBR, not with LILO, not
> with fdisk. I found out that the Windows partition was FAT32, but surely

I bet FAT32 is the problem.  It is not DOS-compatible, so existing disk
utilities cannot operate on it.  We had that problem at work: a
department got a DTP computer with FAT32 and we can't work on it,
because our scandisk and f-prot won't work on it.  Under Linux there's a
kernel patch to recognize FAT32 partitions, but it's still experimental.
Since Lilo works differently than any other Linux utility (it writes the
physical address of the partition's bootstrapping code into its menu,
because when Linux is not booted yet and names such as "/dev/hda2" have
no meaning yet.  Perhaps FAT32 has a different disk header format or
something.

If not too inconvenient, you may want to reformat the Win95 partition to
FAT16.  That may be less of a headache in the long run until all the
utilities have had time to catch up.

This is all based on secondhand knowledge -- I've never used FAT32
myself.

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RE: How do I set LOCALE?

1997-11-02 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 01-Nov-97 skrifar Johann Spies:
> 
> I have been reading the interesting discussion about setting locale.  I
> could not see, however how do you do it.  I have for instance tried "set
> LANG='uk'" in bash, and it have no effect on the LOCALE-settings.
> 
  There are two locale packages, 'wg15-locale', that has all locale data
for libc5.  And 'locales', that supplies localedata for libc6.  There
should be information for these, under /usr/doc/{wg15-locale,libc6}.

  The reason your locale settings don't change, is because there is
because there is no locale 'uk'.  For the United Kingdom, you would
specify 'en_GB' (English, Great Britain).  These shortcuts are
standard, and will be represented by a directory in /usr/share/locale
with the same name, and/or a file in /usr/share/i18n/locale.

> The locale-manpage did not help me.  I could also not find something about
> it in "Linux in a Nutshell" or the Linux System Administrator's Guide.
> 
  Maybe that is because locale support for Linux, is broken... as it is
only supported by a few applications.  It's unfortunate, but the standard
seems to be still 7-bit ascii... even under Unix.  And, apparantly difficult,
to get some of the core to respect other peoples language needs.  Only
large corporations, that have their income depend on other 'nationalities'
buying their systems, are advancing the issue.  The rest trails far
behind... along with the documentation :-)


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RE: Where is Navigator .deb file?

1997-11-02 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 02-Nov-97 skrifar Adrian Monk:
> 
> I read somewhere in this group that there is a .deb file of Navigator
> 4.03, have hunted high and low at the Debian and Netscape ftp sites,
> but can't find it. Can someone give a pointer to where it is? 
> 
  The debian installer, is under contrib... I think.

  You were probably looking for 4.03, under the Netscape folder on the
Netscape ftp site.  Version 4.03 is called Communicator, so look under
that folder, and you should find it.


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Re: default Debian smail-fetchmail

1997-11-02 Thread Kevin Traas

-Original Message-
From: Cullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Sunday, November 02, 1997 11:31 AM
Subject: default Debian smail-fetchmail


>However, I made a .fetchmailrc file which was supposed to poll for
>mail and it worked.  I was looking for some kind of fetchmail log file but
>found this file:  /var/log/smail/logfile
>which contained information about the mail I had succesfully
>downloaded.   Does this mean that fetchmail is merely an interface to smail
and
>that smail actually grabbed the messages?


It depends   If you are connected to the Internet (fully time) and you
have everything setup properly, then smail could handle receipt and sending
of all your mail by itself.  fetchmail is used in situations where you're
not always connected to the Internet and want to pull mail on a "demand"
basis - i.e. only during those times that you are connected.

You haven't explained enough about your situation for me to give a better
answer.

Also, from the fetchmail docs   Did you specify where you wanted
messages to be logged?

>My fetchmail command line to use my new rc file was
>fetchmail -f .fetchmailrc
>
>BTW: one of the options in my .fetchmailrc was "keep" which let me
>leave the mail on the server but on successive fetchmail commands it
>downloaded the same messages again. I suppose there must be some way of
>telling it not to grab mail that has already been downloaded.

Why would you want to leave it on the server?  This is expected behaviour
with  POP3.  Fetchmail just receives (and the remote POP3 server just sends)
all the mail that is waiting in the remote "inbox".  If you didn't delete
what you downloaded last time, then you'll get it the next time.  (Useful
for debugging...)

I'm using fetchmail on a number of systems.  If you have any further
questions about config files, etc, just let me know - I'll do what I can to
help.

Later,

Kevin TraasBaan Business Systems
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Re: Unrecognized message in /var/log/anacron

1997-11-02 Thread hilliard
 Thanks for responding, Bill.

 This system is 1.2.18 and has popclient, not fetchmail.  I have
1.3.1, including fetchmail, installed on another partition, but don't
use that partition for mail.  Both partitions share the same home
directory (/home/bob is a link to /local/bob on another partition).

 In any event, this message appeared in /var/log/anacron.  Would
anything be written to this log, other than by anacron?  I can find no
reference in any of the cron jobs that looks like it should have caused
such a message.

Bob

> On Sun, 02 Nov 1997 Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Bob;
> 
> Just sort of a wild guess but you arn't using fetchmail are you?
> 
> 
> -bill
> 
> cp: /local/bob/.lockfetch-bobspc: No such file or directory
> 
>  Which program requires .lockfetch, and should i create it?
> 


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Re: Comparison of ultra dma disks vs scsi?

1997-11-02 Thread Tommy Lakofski
>From my experience, the CPU is still too involved in UltraDMA transfers to
offer better performance than SCSI.  HD manufacturers still make their
best drives SCSI-only also AFAIK.  UDMA's very cheap though. ;) 

-TL

On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, butch wrote:

> From: butch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 09:17:44 -0500
> Subject: Comparison of ultra dma disks vs scsi?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been planning to put together my ultimate linux machine and and when
> i get to the disks system there seems to be a successor to scsi for the
> ultimate price/performance. has anyone used an ultra drive and how does the
> actual perfomance compare to uw scsi?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> allan
> 
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Re: Where is Navigator .deb file?

1997-11-02 Thread Bob Clark
Adrian Monk wrote:
> 
> I read somewhere in this group that there is a .deb file of Navigator
> 4.03, have hunted high and low at the Debian and Netscape ftp sites,
> but can't find it. Can someone give a pointer to where it is?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Adrian Monk
> 

Download
"communicator-v403-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar.gz" from
the netscape site and use the debian netscape4 package to
install.

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Comparison of ultra dma disks vs scsi?

1997-11-02 Thread butch
Hello,

I have been planning to put together my ultimate linux machine and and when
i get to the disks system there seems to be a successor to scsi for the
ultimate price/performance. has anyone used an ultra drive and how does the
actual perfomance compare to uw scsi?

thanks,

allan


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How do I set LOCALE?

1997-11-02 Thread Johann Spies
Please excuse the stupid question.  

I have been reading the interesting discussion about setting locale.  I
could not see, however how do you do it.  I have for instance tried "set
LANG='uk'" in bash, and it have no effect on the LOCALE-settings.

The locale-manpage did not help me.  I could also not find something about
it in "Linux in a Nutshell" or the Linux System Administrator's Guide.

Johann.


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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-11-02 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 02-Nov-97 skrifar Pere Camps:
> 
>   Ok. I've checked and it looks like everything's ok. In fact, after
> setting LC_ALL to es_ES, perl doesn't complain any more.
> 
  That makes sense, LC_ALL will override your setting of LC_CTYPE.

>   Now, it's bash. ;)
> 
  Try converting to bash from hamm.

>   I used to be able to type accented characters in the command
> line, and now I'm not able to do so. I have LC_ALL set to es_ES and
> LC_CTYPE set to ISO_8859_1... anyway, you're not supposed to have accented
> filenames so it really doesn't matter. Thanks for your help.
> 
  I've got a lot of accented filenames, a directory named "bókhald",
etc :-) No problems.



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RE: procmail help

1997-11-02 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 02-Nov-97 skrifar Paul Miller:
> * All system mail programs should check for netscape's lock file
>   if [ -L $HOME/.netscape/lock ]; then
>   and not execute if it exists.. (netscape can't handle another program
>   modifing the mail boxes).
> 
  Are you sure it's Netscape?  I've got Communicator installed here, and
it doesn't seem to mind that XF-Mail is also running and automatically
collecting mail from the mailbox?  And I do sometimes collect the mail
with Netscape?


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Re: idled and other timeout programs

1997-11-02 Thread Philippe Troin

On Sat, 01 Nov 1997 21:48:52 EST Paul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> I'm looking for a timeout program which will _NOT_ kill my xterm sessions
> but will kill my idle telnet sessions.  I attempted to do this with idled
> by making it ignore users in a 'console' group which the login program
> added to the user's groups.  The only problem is XDM doesn't add users to
> any groups.
> 
> What is tricky is determining if the user is on locally or telneting
> because both xterm and telnet use /etc/ttyp* ...
> 
> Has anyone done this before or have any ideas?

You can always look at which process has the matching pty open. It will be 
xterm for a xterm session or in.telnetd for a telnet session.
You can do that with fuser.

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Where is Navigator .deb file?

1997-11-02 Thread Adrian Monk

I read somewhere in this group that there is a .deb file of Navigator
4.03, have hunted high and low at the Debian and Netscape ftp sites,
but can't find it. Can someone give a pointer to where it is? 

TIA

Adrian Monk


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Re: perl and ISO-8859-1

1997-11-02 Thread Pere Camps
Orn,

>   It means your en_GB locale data is broken.  If you look under the
> folder /usr/share/locale/en_GB you should see a file "LC_CTYPE", this
> file should hold the information for iso-8859-1, normally.  If this
> file is damaged, or holds a wrong version of locale data (i.e. the
> locale data for libc5 wont work with libc6 and vice versa, because
> they have different magic numbers in their header), it won't work.

Ok. I've checked and it looks like everything's ok. In fact, after
setting LC_ALL to es_ES, perl doesn't complain any more.

Now, it's bash. ;)

I used to be able to type accented characters in the command
line, and now I'm not able to do so. I have LC_ALL set to es_ES and
LC_CTYPE set to ISO_8859_1... anyway, you're not supposed to have accented
filenames so it really doesn't matter. Thanks for your help.

>   Try "iso-8859-1", or "ISO-8859-1".  These files should reside in
> /usr/share/i18n/charmaps.

They're there.

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default Debian smail-fetchmail

1997-11-02 Thread Cullen
A question about the initial smail configuration for Debian 1.3

I have never setup mail with any Linux dist before so I'm trying to 
work out what happens whenever.

I was going to try to setup sendmail  with fetchmail to get POP mail 
but the default installation setup smail which is supposed to be easier.

However, I made a .fetchmailrc file which was supposed to poll for 
mail and it worked.  I was looking for some kind of fetchmail log file but 
found this file:  /var/log/smail/logfile

which contained information about the mail I had succesfully 
downloaded.   Does this mean that fetchmail is merely an interface to smail and 
that smail actually grabbed the messages?

My fetchmail command line to use my new rc file was 
fetchmail -f .fetchmailrc

BTW: one of the options in my .fetchmailrc was "keep" which let me 
leave the mail on the server but on successive fetchmail commands it 
downloaded the same messages again. I suppose there must be some way of 
telling it not to grab mail that has already been downloaded.





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default Debian smail-fetchmail

1997-11-02 Thread Cullen
A question about the initial smail configuration for Debian 1.3

I have never setup mail with any Linux dist before so I'm trying to 
work out what happens whenever.

I was going to try to setup sendmail  with fetchmail to get POP mail 
but the default installation setup smail which is supposed to be easier.

However, I made a .fetchmailrc file which was supposed to poll for 
mail and it worked.  I was looking for some kind of fetchmail log file but 
found this file:  /var/log/smail/logfile

which contained information about the mail I had succesfully 
downloaded.   Does this mean that fetchmail is merely an interface to smail and 
that smail actually grabbed the messages?

My fetchmail command line to use my new rc file was 
fetchmail -f .fetchmailrc

BTW: one of the options in my .fetchmailrc was "keep" which let me 
leave the mail on the server but on successive fetchmail commands it 
downloaded the same messages again. I suppose there must be some way of 
telling it not to grab mail that has already been downloaded.





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custom kernel configuration

1997-11-02 Thread Cullen
Well rather than read the docs, I decided to re-compile my kernel 
using the steps I normally take and all seems well.

First. The steps I took were
"make mrproper"
"make config"
"make dep; make clean"
"make zImage"
"make modules"

I then moved my current modules with,
"mv /lib/modules/2.0.30 /lib/modules/2.0.30-old"

then
"make modules_install"

I then altered the Makefile to set the install path to /boot and 
edited lilo.conf accordingly and did a, "make zlilo".

This all seemed to work fine so I'm curious about the references to 
the make-kpkg instructions (which I found later of course) in the 
Debian docs.

What if anything, would the differences have been?
Have I created any problems that haven't happened yet?





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Re: printcap filter arguments

1997-11-02 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 : are are the arguments that are pasted to the print filter?

What do you mean?
Maybe you should give printcat(5) a try?


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Re: libc5 vs libc6

1997-11-02 Thread David Puyrear
Phil Nitschke wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to delete older version(s) of tcl and Tk and install Tcl8.0
> and Tk8.0 using dselect (kernel rev. 2.0.30).
> 
> The problem is that Tk8 requires libc6 which conflicts with libc5
> which is required by half the other applications I've got installed.

This is know problem. All you need to do is get the libc5 from hamm which will
fix this conflict.

Later,
David


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Need to find a font

1997-11-02 Thread Chris Lappe


Any ideas where I can find this font?


[bitgate]tigger ~ $>loadmeter  &
[1] 1076
[bitgate]tigger ~ $>Can't load font 
-schumacher-clean-medium-r-*-*-7-*-*-*-*-*-*-*!

[1]+  Exit 1  loadmeter







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Re: How to maintain a network of workstations via dselect?

1997-11-02 Thread Steve Hsieh
I don't think there is a way to do both simultaenously, but what
you can do is first setup one system the way you want.  Then
use 'dpkg --get-selections > file' and save the output to a file.  Then
on the other machine, use 'dpkg --set-selections < file' to set all the
same packages installed on the first machine.  Then run dselect as usual
to do the actual install.

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On 1 Nov 1997, Terrence Brannon wrote:

> 
> I have a bunch of PC's (actually two :-)) running Debian
> Linux. However, I want them to be exactly the same but dont want to
> run dselect on both machines, but would rather have any
> installations/removals/configs/etc affect both machines simultaneously.
> 
> Is this possible? If not, shouldn't it be?
> 
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procmail help

1997-11-02 Thread Paul Miller
I have an idea for netscape <-> system mail sharing..

* Netscape should setup to use it's movemail application
* Netscape should be setup to use it's regular mail dirs & filter the mail
* Pine, etc should use the same mail directory
* All system mail programs should check for netscape's lock file
  if [ -L $HOME/.netscape/lock ]; then
  and not execute if it exists.. (netscape can't handle another program
  modifing the mail boxes).

What I need to know is how to disable procmail filtering when the lock
file exists.. is this possible?

-Paul


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Re: Package elf-x11r6lib is not installed. --Help?

1997-11-02 Thread Paul Miller
just ignore this message.. I believe libc6 replaced this package and it is
no longer needed.  For the packages which currently depend on
elf-x11r6lib, you can run 'dpkg --force-depends --configure {package}' and
you probably should send a bug report to debian (www.debian.org/bugs).

-Paul

On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Udjat the BitMeister... wrote:

> 
> 
> Where do I find this mysterious package? Thanks!
> 
> 
> running dpkg --pending --configure ...
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xview-dev:
>  xview-dev depends on elf-x11r6lib; however:
>   Package elf-x11r6lib is not installed.
> dpkg: error processing xview-dev (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xforms-dev:
>  xforms-dev depends on elf-x11r6lib; however:
>   Package elf-x11r6lib is not installed.
> dpkg: error processing xforms-dev (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xforms0.86:
>  xforms0.86 depends on elf-x11r6lib; however:
>   Package elf-x11r6lib is not installed.
> dpkg: error processing xforms0.86 (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gimp:
>  gimp depends on gimp-data-min (>= 0.99.14-1); however:
>   Package gimp-data-min is not installed.
>  gimp depends on libmpeg1 (>= 1.2.2-1); however:
>   Package libmpeg1 is not installed.
> dpkg: error processing gimp (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gimp-dev:
>  gimp-dev depends on gimp (>= 0.99.14-1); however:
>   Package gimp is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing gimp-dev (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Setting up xvmount (3.6-4) ...
> 
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gimp-nonfree:
>  gimp-nonfree depends on gimp (>= 0.99.14-1); however:
>   Package gimp is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing gimp-nonfree (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  xview-dev
>  xforms-dev
>  xforms0.86
>  gimp
>  gimp-dev
>  gimp-nonfree
> 
> dpkg --configure returned error exit status 1.
> Press RETURN to continue.
> 
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Re: unable to start PCMCIA service

1997-11-02 Thread Brian Mays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Holger Brandhorst) writes:

> I've tried it - but the the only change I've seen is the addition of a
> "cryptical" alphanumeric part to the error-messages:
> so I've got:
> 
> pcmcia_core.o unresolved symbol apm_register_callback_R4e72ac41
> pcmcia_core.o unresolved symbol apm_unregister_callback_Rb7166c6e
> i82365.o unresolved symbol pcibios_present_Ra67d0654
>^ - and so on
> 
> maybe anyone had this before - or even can tell me which
> kernel-configuration-option or whatever is missing in my system

I don't understand why you are getting these error messages.  It does
not matter how you configure your kernel.  When you recompile the
PCMCIA modules, the configure script in the pcmcia-cs source
automatically searches the kernel source for your configuration
options and compiles the modules to be compatible with this
configuration.

It appears from your error messages that the kernel was compiled with
the PCI and APM options off while the PCMCIA modules were compiled
with these options on.  If the pcmcia modules were compiled
immediately after the kernel image, then I don't know why they were
not both built with the same configuration.

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Re: libc5 vs libc6

1997-11-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
Phil Nitschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm trying to delete older version(s) of tcl and Tk and install Tcl8.0
> and Tk8.0 using dselect (kernel rev. 2.0.30).
> 
> The problem is that Tk8 requires libc6 which conflicts with libc5
> which is required by half the other applications I've got installed.

You're wrong about libc6 conflicting with libc5:

blp:/raid/home/blp$ dpkg -s libc6
Package: libc6
Status: install ok installed
Priority: required
Section: base
Installed-Size: 1421
Maintainer: Helmut Geyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: glibc
Version: 2.0.5c-0.1
Pre-Depends: ldso (>= 1.8.10-1)
Conflicts: libpthread0 (<= 0.5-10)
Description: The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files).
 Includes shared libraries needed to run programs.

However, libc6-dev and libc5-dev conflict.  Your programs shouldn't
depend on these, however; only development libraries should.
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libc5 vs libc6

1997-11-02 Thread Phil Nitschke
I'm trying to delete older version(s) of tcl and Tk and install Tcl8.0
and Tk8.0 using dselect (kernel rev. 2.0.30).

The problem is that Tk8 requires libc6 which conflicts with libc5
which is required by half the other applications I've got installed.

Any hints?

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Package elf-x11r6lib is not installed. --Help?

1997-11-02 Thread Udjat the BitMeister...


Where do I find this mysterious package? Thanks!


running dpkg --pending --configure ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xview-dev:
 xview-dev depends on elf-x11r6lib; however:
  Package elf-x11r6lib is not installed.
dpkg: error processing xview-dev (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xforms-dev:
 xforms-dev depends on elf-x11r6lib; however:
  Package elf-x11r6lib is not installed.
dpkg: error processing xforms-dev (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xforms0.86:
 xforms0.86 depends on elf-x11r6lib; however:
  Package elf-x11r6lib is not installed.
dpkg: error processing xforms0.86 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gimp:
 gimp depends on gimp-data-min (>= 0.99.14-1); however:
  Package gimp-data-min is not installed.
 gimp depends on libmpeg1 (>= 1.2.2-1); however:
  Package libmpeg1 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing gimp (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gimp-dev:
 gimp-dev depends on gimp (>= 0.99.14-1); however:
  Package gimp is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing gimp-dev (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Setting up xvmount (3.6-4) ...

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gimp-nonfree:
 gimp-nonfree depends on gimp (>= 0.99.14-1); however:
  Package gimp is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing gimp-nonfree (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xview-dev
 xforms-dev
 xforms0.86
 gimp
 gimp-dev
 gimp-nonfree

dpkg --configure returned error exit status 1.
Press RETURN to continue.


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Re: problems with Jaz partitioning

1997-11-02 Thread Bruce Perens
Jaz seems to work well here using the Adaptec AIC7850 chip on my motherboard,
and the aic7xxx driver. No partitioning problems like you describe. Try changing
the termination settings from auto to manual-on or manual-off. If you are
terminating the SCSI bus use an active terminator. I have had trouble with
SCSI in general that I actually traced down to the cable, and that cable that
comes with the Jaz drive looks rather thin compared to the Belkin "space
shuttle" cable I usually use. The Belkin cable costs $$$ but seems to be worth
it.

Jaz also works, but with several problems, on my SGI. It's mostly kernel
problems in IRIX 6.2 that keep it from working perfectly.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: How to maintain a network of workstations via dselect?

1997-11-02 Thread Bruce Perens
There are flags to dpkg to make it export the list of selected packages
and then re-import it. Try "dpkg --get-selections > selection_list", and
then "dpkg --set-selections < selection_list" on another workstation. This
will do your package selection, but will _not_ install the packages or answer
install-time questions. We have a plan of action for dealing with that aspect
of the problem, but I can't give you a completion date at this time.

Thanks

Bruce
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Recompiled Kernel, now vplay doesn't work

1997-11-02 Thread David Densmore
I just complied kernel 2.0.31 with Gordon Chaffee's FAT32 patch:

http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/

It works great, now I can mount my FAT32 partition with ease.  The
only problem is that now my favorite sound app, vplay won't run.
When I try I now get this error message:

bash: /usr/bin/vplay: cannot execute binary file

My other sound players including bplay still operate normally, but
I need vplay because it is needed by Cecilia (a graphical front end
for csound).

So far I can't find anything else wrong with my system, just vplay.

Thanks,
David Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ps how do I turn off the screensaver?


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idled and other timeout programs

1997-11-02 Thread Paul Miller
I'm looking for a timeout program which will _NOT_ kill my xterm sessions
but will kill my idle telnet sessions.  I attempted to do this with idled
by making it ignore users in a 'console' group which the login program
added to the user's groups.  The only problem is XDM doesn't add users to
any groups.

What is tricky is determining if the user is on locally or telneting
because both xterm and telnet use /etc/ttyp* ...

Has anyone done this before or have any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Paul Miller


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Re: printcap filter arguments

1997-11-02 Thread WHTK2
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problems with Jaz partitioning

1997-11-02 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Hi.

I just put new SCSI adapter (SIIG i540) and external Jaz drive on my
machine and I am having ome problems with them.
First of all, if I commpile SCSI suport for my adpater (AdvanSys chipset)
as modules, every single operation with drive is very flacky and system
crashes after 2 minutes of using it.
If compiled into kernel, it is OK to mount and use the drive formated by
JazTools, but if I try to use fdisk to remove msdos partition and
create ext2 partition - it fails. If I do just that -create new
partition and reboot - partition table is not recognized.
If I repertition, create ext2 filesystem, mount, do something - everything
OK until I umount and when I mount again, it gives me LOTS of fs errors.
the more I mount and then umount, the bigger number of errors I get.
And again, after reboot, it can't recognize partition table.

It looks like I can't write properly to the drive (yes, I removed rw
protection). Who's fault is that - bad disk (doubtfully, JasTools
do low-level format OK, and I have no problems with it in Windows),
bad drive itself (?), bad SCSI adapter, bad driver for the adapter?

Thanks.

Alex Y.
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Re: How to maintain a network of workstations via dselect?

1997-11-02 Thread Adam Shand
> I have a bunch of PC's (actually two :-)) running Debian
> Linux. However, I want them to be exactly the same but dont want to
> run dselect on both machines, but would rather have any
> installations/removals/configs/etc affect both machines simultaneously.

I believe that there is a debian package of cfengine which is the only too
I know of which will help you do this.  It might be worth you while to
investigate that... though personally with only two machines I wouldn't
bother :-)

> Is this possible? If not, shouldn't it be?

Strictly speaking, no.  This is because something have to be unique to the
box, IP numbers host names etc.

Adam.

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