apology to list

[JD Thomlinson]

In a fit of pique I added to the spam on this list regarding 
a misplaced question that did not belong here. I immediately 
realized my reply might result in a further inquiry to the 
list. I hereby apologise to the list and will not post 
unappropriate and off-topic replies in the future.

Best Regards, JohnT

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What is PPS

[tmalloy]

I am about to start a new job.  My boss sent me some documentation with
some attached files that pine lists as PPS application.  These are
unreadable.  I tried forwarding them to myself so I could read them with
netscape.  This did not work, and in fact they caused netscape to crash. 
I tried loading one of the attachments into vi. This was quite hopeless. 
My next thought, figuring it was postscript file was to try ghostview. 
This also failed with some stack error.  GV had the same result. So, what
is PPS? How can I read these mysterious files. If I can avoid it I
would rather not ask my boss to re-send.  Any help is appreciated. 

Regards,

Tom

Oh by the way, it is often asked if knowing Linux will help you get a job.
I am about to start as a technical recruiter ( head hunter), and I can
definitely say even my limited knowledge from running Debian was
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Re: space, time, matter

[JD Thomlinson]

Dear Brendan - 

Matter does exist. However, it has no place to be since space and 
time have gone away to visit energy.

At 16:38 11/12/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I was wondering if you had any documentation on whether space time and 
>matter really exsist.  I am a first year physics student at mcgill 
>university in Montreal Canada.  My argument is that they do not exsist, 
>however, i am having trouble formulating my ideas, if you have any 
>information, it would be most helpful.  
>
>thank you
>
>brendan
>
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Re: Posting to usenet

[Martin Bialasinski]

> > file, so I'm wondering if the debian inewsinn package puts the
> > configuration file somewhere else. Still, I'll try copying the example
> > inn.conf and see if it works.)
> > 
Forgot to answer this: There should be a
/var/lib/dpkg/info/inewsinn.conffiles file which lists all the
configuartion files used by that package.

Ciao,
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Re: space, time, matter

[joost witteveen]

> My theory is that people like you don't really exist. You are simply a
> figment of my imagination. You have no existence independent of me. If
> I stop thinking about you, it will be as if you never were.
> 
> I will now add your name to my e-mail "kill" file, and will consciously
> perform an act of forgetting. Shortly after you receive this message,
> you will disappear into thin air.

You killed him! I love it, I love it!

(yes, this made me smile, and will probably continue to do so while
I cycle home :)

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Re: [OFF TOPIC] M$ Explorer for Solaris!!!!

[Ralph Winslow]

On 11-Nov-97 Glenn Amerine wrote:
>> "ychim" == ychim  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>ychim> MS said that there is no Linux port.  Brian K Servis wrote:
>>>  Look out *NIX world here comes M$!!!
>>> 
>>> M$ has released preview 1 of M$ Explorer for Solaris 2.5.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/ie/ie40/download/unix.htm.  It is even
>>> more bloated than Communicator it says it need 30M of disk
>>> space when done installing and 60M during the install, YIKES!

Someone has installed this dreck on the machines at work.  They want someone to 
try it out and write a review.  I think the request for a review has been
posted about four times now and still no takers! I wonder what that signifies?

>>> 
>>> Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue
>>> University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
>
>I don't know if they still do or not, but at one time M$ owned some
>shares of SCO. Since Linux and FreeBSD are battling with ODT and
>UnixWare for the Intel Unix market, it seems like they would never
>even consider a version for Linux.
>
>Glenn
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how to keep multiple computers updated

[Michael Lachmann]

Hi,
This is probably a faq, but I haven't found the answer in the faq. We have
several systems running linux, using debian. They might share /usr/ over the
network. How can I update packages on all systems? I can update them on the
server, but is there a quick way to update files which do not reside on the
/usr subtree on the other computers?

thanks,
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Re: space, time, matter

[Bruce Perens]

Brendan,

Many people find discussion groups like ours by searching for keywords
on the web, and then they post questions to those groups without really
understanding what the groups are for. This is the conventional theory.

My theory is that people like you don't really exist. You are simply a
figment of my imagination. You have no existence independent of me. If
I stop thinking about you, it will be as if you never were.

I will now add your name to my e-mail "kill" file, and will consciously
perform an act of forgetting. Shortly after you receive this message,
you will disappear into thin air.

Bruce Perens
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console blanking

[Syd Alsobrook]

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How does one turn off the console blanking so that the x-windows 
screen saver is on all the time?

thanks
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Re: Posting to usenet

[Martin Bialasinski]

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Trevor Barrie wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Martin Bialasinski wrote:

> I'm not sure what you mean here... are you just referring to the fact that
> I can't receive e-mail as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", since "drollden"
> isn't actually known to ibm's nameserver?
> 
Yes.

> I think it's inews that needs this information rather than trn, since trn
> doesn't do posting on its own... according to the man pages, what I need
> is a fromhost: line in /etc/news/inn.conf. (OTOH, I don't have such a
> file, so I'm wondering if the debian inewsinn package puts the
> configuration file somewhere else. Still, I'll try copying the example
> inn.conf and see if it works.)
> 
The fromhost line will maybe work in your case (a single user), but only
if the username
you use on your local host matches the name you have at the isp you chose
at the fromhost line.

Take this setup:

You receive your mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your wife (or whoever else) receives mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So a single fromhost line in inn.conf won't do it. I think you use it, if
you have a permanently connected server and its name is foo.bar.com,
but you want the fromline to appear as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (of cause only works
if you have a appropriate MX record at your DNS server).

So every news and email client has a way to change the from line used for
mails/postings. This is the way to go.

> Okay, dnsdomainname now returns "ibm.net", and trn failed to produce any
> errors when I did a test post. I forgot to take care of the fromhost
> thing, so my test post probably went out as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]",
> but that shouldn't be too hard to correct.
> 
You have of cause used the newsgroup test, so it doesn't matter this time.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: MTA Suggestion

[Peter Mutsaers]

>> On Sat, 08 Nov 1997 00:30:22 -0800 (PST), George Bonser
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

GB> I would like to request that exim replace smail as the default
GB> MTA for Debian.

Bad idea. It doesn't do UUCP, which is still widely used.
smail (and sendmail) do.

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Re: space, time, matter

[Ben Pfaff]

Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I was wondering if you had any documentation on whether space time and 
> matter really exsist.  I am a first year physics student at mcgill 
> university in Montreal Canada.  My argument is that they do not exsist, 
> however, i am having trouble formulating my ideas, if you have any 
> information, it would be most helpful.  

I think the general consensus on this list is that the amount of space
and time around, though not insignificant, is totally dwarfed by the
amount of spam spewed across the net (which is not space, time, or
matter) and the number of totally irrelevant posts to the Debian
lists.  If you have any other questions regarding space, time, and
matter, you might want to read some books by Douglas Adams to make it
perfectly clear that they in fact do not exist.
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Re: [Q] source package building

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"Aaron" == Aaron Denney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Aaron> Close, but not quite.  I would like 'make install' or similar
Aaron> to build the programs, configuration files, pre/postinst
Aaron> scripts, and then install them, _without_ actually building a
Aaron> .deb binary package file, but still modifying dpkg's view of
Aaron> what is installed.

This is a bad idea. Only one entity should mangle the package
 management system's understanding of what is installed on the system,
 and that should be the package management system itself. Building
 package management tools into each and every debian/rules file is a
 recipe for disaster. 

Aaron> It just seems silly to pack everything into a .deb file and
Aaron> then have dpkg unpack it to install it.  Certainly just going
Aaron> ahead and having it build the binary package and then
Aaron> installing that is feasible, and even fairly easily
Aaron> automatable, but it looks like an unnecessary step.

It is the only acceptable way, though. You never want to have
 your package management system so messed up that you have to
 re-install from scratch, do you now? This extra step, as you put it,
 ensures that only dpkg ever touches dpkg internal data. 

dpkg undergoes far stricter scrutiny than most packages
 do. And not all maintainers are created equal; I have a great deal
 more trust in the competence of the dpkg maintainers than I do for
 some others. (also, look at my sig [I luv my rand sig generator])

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Re: [Q] source package building

[Tim Ferrell]

On 12 Nov, Aaron Denney let loose with:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Santiago Vila Doncel writes:
>> > That extra step does often take just a little more time. The build takes
>> > often much more time. *.deb files have an internal structure that only
>> > dpkg knows about. I'm not sure what you want to achieve.
>> 
>> I thought he was fairly clear.  He wants 'make install' to create a binary
>> package and then install it without manual intervention.  Sounds sensible
>> to me.
>>
> 
> Close, but not quite.  I would like 'make install' or similar to build
> the programs, configuration files, pre/postinst scripts, and then install
> them, _without_ actually building a .deb binary package file, but still
> modifying dpkg's view of what is installed.
> 
> It just seems silly to pack everything into a .deb file and then have
> dpkg unpack it to install it.  Certainly just going ahead and having it
> build the binary package and then installing that is feasible, and even
> fairly easily automatable, but it looks like an unnecessary step.
> 


I think this is so because it is desirable (for many reasons) to keep
pristine sources and binaries separate. Perhaps unnecessary for the present 
case, but think in terms of having
to reinstall... or wanting to duplicate your install on another system.

Just my take on it...
- Tim 
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Re: [side question] Re: MTA Suggestion

[Craig Sanders]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Adam Shand wrote:

> > My /etc/procmailrc rules catch nearly all of the spam which makes it
> > through the spamm address, domain and IP blocking rules.
> 
> Are you willing to share your procmail rules?  It would be quite nice to
> have these for myself to get rid of the spam which is arriving in ever
> increasing droves to my mailbox...

certainly, here it is. btw, if you don't want to keep spam in a spam
folder then you can make procmail bounce it with an error code. however,
bouncing spam once it has arrived on your system is usually a waste
of time and just clogs up your mail queue because most spammers won't
receive mail...better to just file it in /dev/null.



VERBOSE=OFF
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
LOGFILE=/root/Mail/from-all
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail

:0
* ^TO([EMAIL PROTECTED])|(free4u2.com)
/root/Mail/SPAM

:0 E
* ^FROM([0-9]+@)|(@widexs.com)|([EMAIL PROTECTED])
/root/Mail/SPAM

:0 E
* (^X-Advertisement:)|(^X-[0-9]: )
/root/Mail/SPAM

:0 E
* ^received:.*(cyber\-bomber|CLOAKED|from unverified source)
/root/Mail/SPAM

# impossible ip address in Received: line  - one of cyberpromo's tricks.
:0 E
* ^Received.*\[[0-9\.]*([03-9][0-9][0-9]|2[6-9][0-9]|25[6-9]) 
/root/Mail/SPAM



I also have these lines in there, but commented out.  I subscribe to the
SPAM-L digest and checking the message body is likely to catch mail from
that list. when i get some spare time i'll fix these rules so that they
don't interfere with SPAM-L:


# now check the body of the message for spam
#:0 BE
#* (EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS|SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS|MAJOR 
CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES|HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL 
SALES)
#/root/Mail/SPAM
#
#:0 BE
#* (CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED|GROUND[ -]*FLOOR OPPORTUNITY|Removal 
instructions|Internet Market(ing|er)|apologize for any inconvenience|Bulk 
Email|using Extractor Pro)
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space, time, matter

[Brendan]

I was wondering if you had any documentation on whether space time and 
matter really exsist.  I am a first year physics student at mcgill 
university in Montreal Canada.  My argument is that they do not exsist, 
however, i am having trouble formulating my ideas, if you have any 
information, it would be most helpful.  

thank you

brendan

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Re: [Q] source package building

[Aaron Denney]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Santiago Vila Doncel writes:
> > That extra step does often take just a little more time. The build takes
> > often much more time. *.deb files have an internal structure that only
> > dpkg knows about. I'm not sure what you want to achieve.
> 
> I thought he was fairly clear.  He wants 'make install' to create a binary
> package and then install it without manual intervention.  Sounds sensible
> to me.
>

Close, but not quite.  I would like 'make install' or similar to build
the programs, configuration files, pre/postinst scripts, and then install
them, _without_ actually building a .deb binary package file, but still
modifying dpkg's view of what is installed.

It just seems silly to pack everything into a .deb file and then have
dpkg unpack it to install it.  Certainly just going ahead and having it
build the binary package and then installing that is feasible, and even
fairly easily automatable, but it looks like an unnecessary step.

Thank you for your replies.

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Re: olvwm doesn't work

[Bill Moran]

HI Tibor

> does the error persist when you run: `startx /usr/bin/X11/olvwm' with
> _empty_ .xinitrc file?  if not, how olwm behaves?
> 

I get the same error. An X-session seems to start and then closes down
immediately.

Thanks

Bill



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Re: base64

[joost witteveen]

> I have been receiving e-mail messages in base64 and my computer is uable
> to translate it.  I have a powerPC. How can I get my computer to
> automatically translate this language. Thanks

At least one of uudeview (uudeview package), 
munpack, from the mpack package, will do that.


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Re: md driver

[Pere Camps]

> /dev/hda4 is a 3.3G linux partition   \
> /dev/sda1 is a 4.0G (whole drive) |
> /dev/sdb1 is a 4.0G (whole drive) |
> /dev/sdc1 is a 2.0G (whole drive)/

I don't have the documents right here, but are you sure that the
md drive can handle 13.3 GB partition?

> 3 months ago I put this machine together and it worked then.

A reason for the md driver to be able to handle 13.3 GB

Have you ran badblocks on /dev/hda4 ?

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Re: makefile problems...please help

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
if this is in a makefile, try $$dir instead:
--
:
[...]
for dir in tcl7.6/unix tk4.2/unix itcl/unix itk/unix \
   iwidgets2.2.0/unix; do \
(cd $$dir; $(MAKE) all) ; done 
[...]
==

The single $dir shall be interpreted as a Make variable, and
 using $MAKE) instead of make shall allow you to pass in options like
 -n and -j, etc.

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Re:makefile problems...please help

[Daniel J. Mashao]

Why don't you get the debian ptolemy package and then you won't have to
worry about porting it yourself. 

Note: Ptolemy has a nasty suprises. They encourage you to set some
variables that will affect your compilation using their gcc instead of the
system installed one. I found the debian package from the net -.

If you cannot find it let me know I might help you to get it. By the way I
just installed Ptolemy for others - I am not a user of the package. 

To come to think about it there is a Linux compilable sources elsewhere on
the net too.
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Re: [Q] source package building

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"john" == john  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

john> Santiago Vila Doncel writes:
>> That extra step does often take just a little more time. The build
>> takes often much more time. *.deb files have an internal structure
>> that only dpkg knows about. I'm not sure what you want to achieve.

john> I thought he was fairly clear.  He wants 'make install' to
john> create a binary package and then install it without manual
john> intervention.  Sounds sensible to me. 

Then the solution is to write a simple script:
==
#! /bin/sh
 ./debian/rules binary
 dpkg -i ../*.deb
==

Even this shall not be totally non-interactive, since the
 package may ask questions while installing. Is this what the original
 poster wanted to achieve?

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makefile problems...please help

[Manos Papantoniou]

Hi all,

I am trying to port into Debian a package called ptolemy, written for
sun workstations. I am getting an error during make. I am not an
advanced linux user so any advise, even a simple one, will be
appeciated. Here are the details:


make[3]: Entering directory `/home/ptolemy/obj.linux/tcltk/itcl2.2'
for dir in tcl7.6/unix tk4.2/unix itcl/unix itk/unix iwidgets2.2.0/unix
; do \
(cd $dir; make all) \
done;
/bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
/bin/sh: -c: line 1: `for dir in tcl7.6/unix tk4.2/unix itcl/unix
itk/unix iwidg
ets2.2.0/unix ; do  (cd $dir; make all)  done;'
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ptolemy/obj.linux/tcltk/itcl2.2'
make[2]: *** [/home/ptolemy/obj.linux/tcltk/itcl2.2/libitcl.a] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ptolemy/src/tcltk'
make[1]: *** [tcltk_bin] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ptolemy'
make: *** [install_tcltk] Error 2


The procedure I followed before the make everything comand is:
I downloaded the files pt0.7p1.src.tar.gz, pt0.7.other.src.tar.gz,
and I unziped-untared them to the appropriate directories. I also
defined the appropriate $PTOLEMY and $PTARCH variables. Then I tried
make everything from the $PTOLEMY directory (all this in a tcsh).

The package version is ptolemy 0.7, patch 1. The Debian version is
1.3.1.r6, kernel 2.0.31. Also, GNU C++ compiler gcc ver. 2.7.2.1
libg++27 ver. 2.7.2.1-8 and libc5 ver. 5.4.33-6
I have currently installed in my machine the packages tcl version 7.6
and tk version 4.2. I have read in the ptolemy installation guide that I
can use my
preinstalled tcl/tk by editing $PTOLEMY/mk/config-default.mk or creating
the proper links in $PTOLEMY/tcltk/tcl* and $PTOLEMY/tcltk/tk*
However they don't explain how you can do this.

Manos Papantoniou


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #992

[Daniel Martin]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Andrew Akins wrote:

> Two questions:
> 
> Can the JDK.1.1.1 package be installed on the stable (bo) distibution,
> or will it only work with the unstable (hamm). And if it only works on
> the unstable, has anyone had any luck just installing 1.1.1 from the
> Java-Linux ftp site?

I use it (the 1.1.3 jdk package) just fine on my bo system.

> 
> How about the Netscape4 package? Will it work with stable or do you need
> unstable.

Ditto.  Now know that the netscape4 Debian package merely installs
netscape, it doesn't actually contain netscape; you still have to download
the appropriate file from netscape and place it in /tmp.

DANIEL MARTIN


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #992

[Andrew Akins]

Two questions:

Can the JDK.1.1.1 package be installed on the stable (bo) distibution,
or will it only work with the unstable (hamm). And if it only works on
the unstable, has anyone had any luck just installing 1.1.1 from the
Java-Linux ftp site?

How about the Netscape4 package? Will it work with stable or do you need
unstable.

I guess another question is - how unstable is unstable? I do plan on
using linux in a production environment (i.e., I'm a user, not a
tinkerer... :) )

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amd mounting local filesystem

[Ferenc Kiraly]

Hi!

Lately I am having (not so much) fun with amd. I am trying to get
it to mount a local filesystem on a mount point of *my* choice.
First I tried this and int works fine:

 /etc/amd/amd.master 
-r -a /amd /home /etc/amd/amd.home
-

 /etc/amd/amd.home --
studentstype:=ufs;dev:=/dev/sda6;opts:=type=ext2,rw,defaults
#
# 
#
users   -opts:=rw,nosuid \
host==samson;type:=ufs;dev:=/dev/vg01/users \
host!=samson;type:=nfs;rfs:=/home/users;rhost:=samson
#
# links
#
researchtype:=link;fs:=users;sublink:=research
guests  type:=link;fs:=users;sublink:=research
---

This setup mounts /dev/sda6 under /amd//home/students
and makes the link /home/students that points to that
mount point.

Now what I want is to specify a different mount point,
as I understand, by using the fs:= option
in the 'students' map entry. I would like the partition
/dev/sda6 to be mounted under /home/students, so I 
suplied fs:=/home/students. But this did not work. It
caused the /home directory to be inaccessible. If I
tried `cd /home`, cd just hung there and it looks like
I wasn't able to do anything about it. Please tell me
what am I doing wrong. 

Now I come to the second thing that annoyed me very much.
After `cd /home` hung, I wasn't able to get the system to
behave itself again. Killing amd and eveything I thought
had anything in common with the problem solved nothing.
I had to reboot the machine. I hate rebooting the machine.
It spoils my uptime. To be more precise: the system worked 
ok, but anything that touched /home, just froze.

feri.


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md driver

[RedHat Linux User]

I am having a problem with the md driver

/dev/hda1 is the boot partition 300M
/dev/hda2 is a 127M swap partition
/dev/hda3 is a 127M swap partition
/dev/hda4 is a 3.3G linux partition   \
  |
/dev/sda1 is a 4.0G (whole drive) |
  |  /dev/md0
/dev/sdb1 is a 4.0G (whole drive) |
  |
/dev/sdc1 is a 2.0G (whole drive)/

then i do the following
/sbin/mdadd /dev/md0 /dev/hda4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
/sbin/mdrun -pl -c4k /dev/md0
/sbin/mkfs.ext2 -c /dev/md0

When it finishes it says that block 49 is bad and that 1 - 55 must be good
to make a filesystem.  All drives will format by them selves.

3 months ago I put this machine together and it worked then.

anyone have any ideas ?


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Re: xbiff's bitmaps?

[Torsten Hilbrich]

Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was wondering if anyone could tell me where the traditional old mailbox
> bitmaps (the ones that are "ugly") for xbiff are?
> 
> I've dug around /usr/X11R6 quite a bit and can find neither the bitmaps
> nor an app-defaults for xbiff that would control this.  The man page also
> didn't mention any command-line options for this, though there are X
> resources.

I have found bitmaps called flagdown and flagup (both 48x48) in
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps which are part xlib6-dev_3.3-3.

> Strangely, my last computer was running Debian 1.3.1, upgraded from 1.2.
> My new computer did a fresh install of Debian 1.3.1, and somewhere in
> there the xbiff bitmaps changed.
> 
> The new bitmaps are of those little plastic stacking trays you see in
> offices.  I liked the good old ugly farmer's mailbox.

Tell me if you don't have them, I will email them to you (about 3.6 K).

Torsten

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Re: installing a library

[Torsten Hilbrich]

clif smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to know how to install a library, "lmlib 0.5.2" for use with
> Enlightenment desktop. It has its own install function but I need to know
> where to install it from. Like where is the best place to gunzip/tar files
> in, like "c:\temp" in DOS. If and after an install what files there can be
> deleted, etc.

I use /tmp for short-term file (will be deleted upon the next reboot)
and /var/tmp for longer, but still temporary storage.

> Also, when I try to install it I get a message saying I'm missing convert
> in /bin/sh. It also seems to want "make" and I'm sure that's installed ;)
> Thanks,

Install the imagemagick package, it contains convert.  You need also
to adjust the location for convert from /usr/bin to /usr/X11R6/bin
somewhere in the Makefile.

Torsten

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Re: More newbie setup stuff...

[Daniel Martin]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Andrew Akins wrote:

>   Checking for languages ... de_DECan't locate Getopt/Long.pm in @INC at
> /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
> 
> Any idea what this means? Any suggestions?

This means you've encountered a (reported, and last I checked still open)
bug in mandb.  The problem is that mandb's configuration script uses a
perl module that isn't in the standard miniature perl that comes with the
base distribution.  (this is truly EVIL, especially for poor souls who try
to set Debian up on machines with little HD space)  There are then two
relatively easy solutions:
1) install the perl package before installing mandb.
2) make the directory /usr/local/lib/site_perl/Getopt/ and place the
file Long.pm from any full perl5 install therein.  If you don't happen 
to have a full perl install handy, I've temporarily made Long.pm available
as: http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/Long.pm

> Tonight...gonna try and install X :)

You think you've had problems so far?  Tonight should be fun...

By the way - in looking into this, I tried to discover just what the base
perl installation _does_ have - unlike elvis-tiny, there doesn't seem to
be a package "perl-tiny" or whatnot that contains this little perl.  Is
there somewhere a list of every file on a base-only Debian system that
would tell me which package contains the base perl, and what modules are
included in the tiny perl included in the base install?

DANIEL MARTIN


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Re: [Q] source package building

[john]

Santiago Vila Doncel writes:
> That extra step does often take just a little more time. The build takes
> often much more time. *.deb files have an internal structure that only
> dpkg knows about. I'm not sure what you want to achieve.

I thought he was fairly clear.  He wants 'make install' to create a binary
package and then install it without manual intervention.  Sounds sensible
to me.
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Re: [Q] half-duplex mode with EEPRO100

[Bruce Perens]

I think full-duplex mode is valid only for a point-to-point connection
with a special cable. But I could be wrong. I suggest you look at the
driver source code.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

[Louis Larry]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote:
> 
> > I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O
> > organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they
> > THINK about the "technology" in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that
> > the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious
> > reasons, given the limitations of that NDA).
> > 
> > I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O
> > hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether
> > a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works.  Since I don't
> 
> I think that it is necessary, that hardware manufacturers want sell their
> products to users of free OS's. I think they don't believe that this group
> can really play a role on the market.
> Maybe the OpenHardware project should be wider popularized...
> http://www.debian.org/OpenHardware

http://open-i2o.abies.com/

Louis.


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Re: MTA Suggestion

[Behan Webster]

C'mon guys, leave it alone.  This flamefest is getting us nowhere.

Whether or not maildir or mbox is the way to go, the point is that qmail
cannot be Debian's preferred MTA because Debian does not consider qmail
to be DFSG free.  This renders any fight over whether qmail is better
than other MTA's moot.  As far as Debian is concerned it is a non-free
package and cannot be distributed with the main distribution.  (Although
it will be distributed from the Debian non-free directory by ftp)

This is not my decision, nor necessarily my opinion.  This is just the
way it is according to current Debian policy vis'a'vis the current qmail
license.

Please take the advocacy and religious wars somewhere else.

Thanks,

Behan

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Re: mailx_8.1.1-3.1

[Santiago Vila Doncel]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Obi wrote:

> Am I the only one in trouble with this version? When I try to send a mail as 
> soon as I hit return the mail is gone but no body is actually sent: only the 
> header. Am I missing some dependencies?

No, that version is just broken.
Install the one in bo, until a fixed one arrives.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3i
Charset: latin1

iQCVAgUBNGnwDSqK7IlOjMLFAQEyMQP9HV6Mrz+He+mpGikXqcVVLxhqpGoHrtI8
v2qm3lLzF68TFRlVgS9IfvWfJ0haUnGs8bPjtiZkmJfcULCklZ4WITxNyIPQltBS
UCgwzQ0JNWZTnUvs0wMcR+wmTvzu+87D3+yjXZ3YwEyMf6Fn3xFJn2t3Mh19vfVS
4+ctl/rfNyE=
=sRDN
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



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More newbie setup stuff...

[Andrew Akins]

My thanks to everyone who helped me set up my laptop for a Debian
install...the PCMCIA drivers loaded perfectly, and in no time at all I
was connected to my ISP and finishing my install via ftp. 

My problem is in the config section - when trying to config the man-db
package I eventually get this error:

  Checking for languages ... de_DECan't locate Getopt/Long.pm in @INC at
/usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.

Any idea what this means? Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Tonight...gonna try and install X :)


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[Q] half-duplex mode with EEPRO100

[Vladislav Papayan x285]

Hello,
I am using eepro100.o module for my
Intel EExpressPro 100B card.  My current
kernel version is 2.1.59.  No matter what
kernel I try to use I always see that when
the module gets loaded it tell that it operates
in half-duplex mode.  I ran out of ideas. Does
any one know how to change it to full-duplex mode.


Thanks,
Vladislav


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Re: dmsdosfs

[Adam Heath]

-Original Message-
From: Luka Pravica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 1997 11:22 PM
Subject: dmsdosfs


>Hi,
>
>I tried to use dmsdosfs-0.8.3.0 to access doublespace 3 compressed drive
>on
>my widows partition. I followed all instructions, recompiled kernel...
>But when I try add module to the kernel with insmod dmsdos, I get
>following error messages:
>
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_read_super
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_rename
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_unlink
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_put_super
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_rmdir
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_create
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_lookup
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_read_inode
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_mkdir
>/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_unlink_umsdos
>
>During compilation of kernel, there were few warnings about dmsdosfs,
>but no errors. I use kernel 2.0.30.
>
>
>Does anybody knows what I have done wrong?
>
>Thanks for any help
>
>Luka
>


Compile support for MSDOS fs.  And be sure to "insmod msdosfs(sp?)" after
bootup.

I have noticed that not all modules that require MSDOS properly contain
MSDOS dependency information.

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Re: JDK 1.1.4 deb

[Stephen Zander]

Timothy Phan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   Is the JDK 1.1.4 debian package available yet?  Thanks!

The short answer is no.  As 1.1.4 is only a bug-fix, is there any reason
you especially need it or will 1.1.3 do?


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Re: PostgreSQL for Debian (fwd)

[Andrea Arcangeli]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

>I packaged PostgreSQL for Debian system. It isn' t a official release. If
>somebody that uses PostgreSQL 6.2.1 can try it and tell me if it wors for
>him (as for me). Binaries are compiled against glibc2 and not libc5.
>
>You can find it at:
>
>   http://www-linux.deis.unibo.it/pub/debian/local/postgresql/

Excuse me people :) I changed the URL location:

ftp://dida43.deis.unibo.it/pub/debian/local/postgresql/

Andreas Arcangeli


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PostgreSQL for Debian (fwd)

[Andrea Arcangeli]

I packaged PostgreSQL for Debian system. It isn' t a official release. If
somebody that uses PostgreSQL 6.2.1 can try it and tell me if it wors for
him (as for me). Binaries are compiled against glibc2 and not libc5.

You can find it at:

http://www-linux.deis.unibo.it/pub/debian/local/postgresql/

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Re: HELLO

[DebianUser]

In a message dated 11/11/97 5:55:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> >Depending on the game you can do it under Win95.
>  >
>  Doh!!, sorry, I meant that it was my Understanding that AOL Users
>  where un-able to connect to the AOL Servers, via LINUX. I know this
>  is the case on my Gte.com acct, as they said I would never be able to
>  connect my Boxes to there NT servers. Well I did, so I maybe mistakin
>  in regards to Aol Users connecting to the Aol Servers.
>  "I don't do Windoze" Seen on a shirt I made...:)
AOL uses their own proprietary interface to access the network. So you are
correct. Things to note, here at AOL almost all the internal machines are
*NIX based. And many of the employees use LINUX to access the machines
remotely.

Simply a 'NIX user trapped in a Windows market.

[This information is the opinion of the user and is in no way the official
position of America Online. YadaYadaYada and all the other stuff they force
us to put on "personal" messages.] 


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Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

[Bruce Perens]

The i20 group left their specification on their anonymous FTP server and we
all have a copy now. They then took it back off the server. Go figure. We
have no problem with them now, there is no possible non-disclosure case
and when the hardware comes out we will write drivers for it.

Thanks

Bruce 
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base64

[Donovan Anderson]

I have been receiving e-mail messages in base64 and my computer is uable
to translate it.  I have a powerPC. How can I get my computer to
automatically translate this language. Thanks


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Panasonic KxP 6300

[G. Kapetanios]

Hi, 

I am thinking of bying a laser printer and the cheapest one I found is the
Panasonic KxP 6300. Is anyone using this printer with Debian ? Are there
any problems ? Is it any good ? 

Thanks
George 
   



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Is it possible to compile gnome-0.9 in debian with libc6?

[David Puryear]

Hi all,

I noticed that gnome_0.9-1.deb had "obgtk stuff" left out, so I try to compile
gnome from source. This is the error I got:

gcc -g -O2 -o phaser_chess board_view.o coord_list.o logical_board.o phaser-ches
s.o ../../libgnomeui/_libs/libgnomeui.a ../../libgnome/_libs/libgnome.a ../../ob
gtk/_libs/libobgtk.a -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lX11 -lXext -lm -lobjc
 -lguile -lm -ldl
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function `__objc_
init_thread_system':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x3b): undefined reference to `pthread_key_create'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function `objc_th
read_create':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x95): undefined reference to `pthread_create'
thr-posix.o(.text+0xa5): undefined reference to `pthread_detach'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function `objc_th
read_set_data':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x14e): undefined reference to `pthread_setspecific'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function `objc_th
read_get_data':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x17a): undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function `objc_mu
tex_trylock':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x2b5): undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_trylock'
make[3]: *** [phaser_chess] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/lib/gnome-0.9/programs/phaser-chess'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/lib/gnome-0.9/programs'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/lib/gnome-0.9'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

I'm wondering if this is because I'm running libc6 system.

Any enlightenment is appreciated,
   
David


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[side question] Re: MTA Suggestion

[Adam Shand]

> My /etc/procmailrc rules catch nearly all of the spam which makes it
> through the spamm address, domain and IP blocking rules.

Are you willing to share your procmail rules?  It would be quite nice to
have these for myself to get rid of the spam which is arriving in ever
increasing droves to my mailbox...

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mailx_8.1.1-3.1

[Obi]

Am I the only one in trouble with this version? When I try to send a mail as 
soon as I hit return the mail is gone but no body is actually sent: only the 
header. Am I missing some dependencies?

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Re: [Q] source package building

[Santiago Vila Doncel]

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> Looking through the available documentation, it seems that the only way
> to install source package

This is a contradiction. source packages are not "installed".

> is to use it to create a binary package, and
> then install the newly created binary package.

Aha!, so you don't want to install the source package, but the binary
packages it creates, right?

> Am I missing something or
> is this the only way?  If this is the only way, why is this necessary?

If you want to install the binary packages it creates, obviously you will
have to let it create them :-)

> I would think doing an installation after the build would be possible
> without having to take the extra step of creating a binary package.

That extra step does often take just a little more time. The build
takes often much more time. *.deb files have an internal structure that
only dpkg knows about. I'm not sure what you want to achieve.

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HE: color in xterm and jed

[Andrea Mennucci]

Hi to everybody

Maybe there is an easy answer to this but I couldnt find it

When I used Slackware there was a command like  ``color-xterm''
and I would have an xterm with color support

In debian if I run ls --color=auto 
or jed (with ANSI_COLORS enabled)I see colors;
but if I run a script which uses ``dialog'' this is b&w;
the only way I can have colors in dialog
is to set TERM=xterm-color
but this not so nice to do everytime.

Is there a way I can tell xterm to set TERM=xterm-color ?

BTW 
in jed's syntax hiliting some things,
like LaTeX commands, are green over white: unreadable.
I have changed it to red over white
and $ signs to blue over white
but the effect of the change is only
for terminals; in .jedrc I have undeleted 
#ifndef XWINDOWS
 before the set_color part, that now reads
 
$1 = ``black''; $2 = ``white'';
set_color(``menu'', ``white'', ``blue'');   % menu bar
set_color(``normal'', $1, $2);  % default fg/bg
set_color(``status'', ``yellow'', ``blue'');  % status or mode line
   set_color(``region'', ``yellow'', ``brightmagenta'');% for marking 
regions
  set_color(``operator'', $1, $2);% +, -, etc..  
  set_color(``number'', ``brightblue'', $2);  % 10, 2.71,... TeX formulas
   set_color(``comment'', ``white'', ``brightcyan''); % /* comment */  
   set_color(``string'', ``brightblue'', $2);  % ``string'' or `char'  
   set_color(``keyword'', ``brightred'', $2);  % if, while, unsigned, ...  
   set_color(``keyword1'', ``brown'', $2);  % malloc, exit, etc...
   set_color(``delimiter'', $1, $2);   % {}[](),.;...  
   set_color(``preprocess'', ``magenta'', $2);  % #ifdef   
set_color(``message'', ``blue'', $2);  % color for messages
set_color(``error'', ``brightred'', $2);   % color for error
set_color(``dollar'', ``magenta'', $2);% color dollar sign 
continuation
   set_color(``...'', ``red'', $2);  % folding indicator

this has skrewd up the colorsin xjed , though:
in xjed now LaTeX commands are green over black (?)
and $ signs are blu over black 

how come?

thanks

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Re: CD recording question

[Ben Pfaff]

John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am looking for a good program to read audio from an audio CD and
> store it in a file suitable for later recording.  I am aware of the
> cdda2wav program, which will generate WAV files that then need to be
> converted back to cdr format by a program like sox.  But surely there
> has to be an easier and better way to do it.  Converting to wavs and
> back seems rather cumbersome.

As a wild guess, does `dd if=/dev/ of=raw.cd.image', or
something along those lines, work?
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CD recording question

[John Goerzen]

Hi,

I am looking for a good program to read audio from an audio CD and
store it in a file suitable for later recording.  I am aware of the
cdda2wav program, which will generate WAV files that then need to be
converted back to cdr format by a program like sox.  But surely there
has to be an easier and better way to do it.  Converting to wavs and
back seems rather cumbersome.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: Error: Unknown PCI file card adapter

[Rick Macdonald]

> I have an ASUS TX97e motherboard. 

So do I.

> Will I be able to proceed with the Debian GNU/Linux install even though
> I'm missing this driver?  Is there a site I can find a list of hardware
> supported by Debian GNU/Linux?  

Just ignore the error message. I have no problems and get the message too.
You don't need any special driver.

...RickM...


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Re: magicfilter permissions

[Brian K Servis]

Orn E. Hansen writes:
>
>
>> This is what is currently set mode wise:
>># ls -l /usr/local/bin/hpset
>>  11 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root10445 Jul 10 16:47
>> /usr/local/bin/hpset*
>># ls -l /dev/lp1
>>0 crw-rw   1 root lp 6,   1 May 28 17:16 /dev/lp1
>
>  You can either, make '/dev/lp1' accessable to everybody.  Or, you can
>make your 'hpset' program as a member of group 'lp' and make it set
>group id.
>

Since this is a standalone machine I did both the above and still no luck.
I am trapping the output of the hpset and it says is still can't open the
/dev/lp1 device, it just cat's it to it.

#ls -l /usr/local/bin/hpset
  11 -rwxr-sr-x   1 root lp  10445 Jul 10 16:47 
/usr/local/bin/hpset*
#ls -l /dev/lp1
   0 crw-rw-rw-   1 root lp 6,   1 May 28 17:16 /dev/lp1

I am really confused.  As root it works, as a regular user it works but as
the printer daemon it does not work!

Thanks for any input,

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Debian libc5 (bo/stable) to libc6 (hamm/unstable) migration Mini-HOWTO (regular posting, updated)

[Scott Ellis]

  Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO
  Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  $Id: libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml,v 2.10 1997/11/12 15:23:04
  storm Exp $

  1.  Introduction

  The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the
  next release of the Debian system.  This version will utilize the new
  libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many
  enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the
  GNU project.  We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to
  utilize your older software by providing development and operating
  environments for both C libraries.  However, all packages in the new
  release will be linked with the new C library.  This has made it
  slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch
  of our development tree into a working system.  There is a slight
  possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this
  guide is intended to help you avoid such problems.

  1.1.  Recent Changes

  o  Updated versions of software mentioned to latest version in
 archives.

  o  Updated note about /etc/nsswitch.conf

  o  Note about vthunk change with glibc 2.0.5c.

  o  Seperated bash upgrade from required upgrade.

  o  Note on how to upgrade via dpkg-ftp.

  o  Notes about NIS and libgdbm (perl) issues.

  o  Note about libc6-based e2fsck being bad for large partitions.

  1.2.  Finding updates

  The latest version of this Mini-HOWTO should be available in the
  following locations:

  o  

  o  

  o  

  o  

  o  

  1.3.  Copyright and Disclaimer

  This Mini-HOWTO is covered by the copyright of and may be further
  redistibuted under the same terms as other HOWTOs from the LDP.

  As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY.  These comments are
  based on my personal experience and experimentation.  While this
  worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may
  vary.  Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  2.  Requirements

  2.1.  Minimum Requirements

  The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable-
  branch packages is below.  Install these packages one at a time in
  exactly the order listed.  When versions are mentioned, that is a
  minimum suggested version, any later version should also be
  acceptable.

  o  ldso_1.9.6-2

  o  libc6_2.0.5c-0.1

  2.2.  Upgrading bash

  While you can install many libc6 package with just ldso and libc6, you
  will probably want to upgrade a few other packages as well.  Since
  bash-2.01 fixes problems experienced with Netscape and helper
  applications, it is one of the more likely packages to need updated.
  However, it is also one of the few packages that is capable of
  rendering your system useless if upgraded incorrectly.  Install the
  packages below one at a time in exactly the order listed.

  IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade of these
  packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and
  therefore making your system unusable.

  o  ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2

  o  ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-5

  o  libreadline2_2.1-7

  o  libreadlineg2_2.1-7

  o  bash_2.01-5

  2.3.  Other Suggested Packages

  These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the
  packages in unstable, but are still very useful.  The new dpkg-dev may
  be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new
  dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to
  upgrade your system to the unstable distribution.

  o  libg++272_2.7.2.8-0.1

  o  dpkg_1.4.0.19

  o  dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19

  o  dpkg-ftp_1.4.9

  2.4.  Other Possible Conflicts

  Since perl is used in many package installation scripts, problems with
  with library upgrades may temporarily break perl, which may break
  other package installations.  To be safe, install the new libgdbm1 and
  then the new libgdbmg1 packages by hand before upgrading perl.

  3.  Development

  If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the
  '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use
  packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev'
  for libc5 development.  You will wish to install the latest libc5
  package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as
  well.  Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet,
  check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading.
  Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have
  unpredictable results.

  4.  Concerns

  4.1.  Upgrading to libc6_2.0.5c-0.1

  Due to a change in the vthunk handling code in libc6 and libg++, you
  mu

Re: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Nov 12, 1997 at 12:36:22AM -0500, Simon's Mailing List Account wrote:
> We also need to fix the mailing list configuration so it doesn't happen
> so much. Smartlist (which is what the debian lists apparently run on)
> has a configuration setting that has it drop postings from people
> not on the list.

This would be okay if there were some way to be registered for posting
but not receiving posts. I like to email from other accounts sometimes
when it's convenient but prefer to receive all list mail at one
particular account.

Hamish
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Re: Flow of boot process.

[Will Lowe]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, R Chris Ross wrote:

>   I am looking for some sort of flow diagram or detailed text on the 
> boot process used by Debian.  The Linux System Administrator's guide 
> has a small text on this and the /usr/doc/sysvinit has little.  
> Some pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.

There's a book called "Linux Kernel Internals" that documents some of
this,  at least from the standard kernel point of view.  It's published by
Addison Wesley Longman Limited in America, although I believe it was
originally published in German by someone else.
Will


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Re: Trouble with dselect

[Dale Scheetz]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Jim Kennedy wrote:

> The dselect program is having trouble seeing the packages for
> installation; I put them in a directory named "install" on the c drive,
> and also copied the "packages" file into the same directory. Only 20 or
> so packages come up in the screen for selection. How can i get dselect
> to see all the packages that are there?

Well, the packages file is constructed for an archive directory structure
that you have not duplicated. If you have all of the .deb files in one
directory, and you wish to install them all, you can do this with
something like:

dpkg -iR /pathtopackages/*.deb

(It may work without the *.deb, but I have never actually tried it this
way, so you may need to experiment with the proper command line.)

Luck,

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Re: dmsdosfs

[Anand Kumria]

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Luka Pravica wrote:

> I tried to use dmsdosfs-0.8.3.0 to access doublespace 3 compressed drive
> on
> my widows partition. I followed all instructions, recompiled kernel...
> But when I try add module to the kernel with insmod dmsdos, I get
> following error messages:
> 

Looks like you want to insert the msdos module first. Try:

insmod msdos
insmos dmsdos

and see if it works

Anand.

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Re: Stop rc5v2 client, Bovine team won 56 bit secret key challenge!

[Tommy Lakofski]

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Britton wrote:

> Nor mine, though I didn't look that carefully.  There was some hoopla from
> the guy who ran the client that found the key saying he wished it had been
> a Mac (it was found by an NT machine), but I don't recall anything about
> Linux.  I have been meaning to look at some of the other efforts that were

I think the bovine rc5 efforts are less about platform advocacy than
advocacy for strong encryption, which is threatened by some governments
who'd rather not let their citizens communicate with one another without
fear of eavesdropping. That's why I participate.

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Re: syslogd beserk (solved)

[Scott Ellis]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:

> I think I found what caused it:  I recently purged inn from the system.
> In the /etc/syslog.conf file there were lines about files that weren't
> there anymore:
> 
> # Logging for INN news system
> #
> news.crit  /var/log/news/news.crit
> news.err   /var/log/news/news.err
> news.notice-/var/log/news/news.notice
> 
> After commenting the lines with news.* out, syslogd became its quiet
> self again.  Now, isn't the postrm script from the inn package supposed
> to clean this up?  Iow, is this a bug that I should report?

The bug has already been fixed in the later versions of syslog.  No need
to report it.

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Error: Unknown PCI file card adapter

[Howie]

I have an ASUS TX97e motherboard.  Checking out their site for driver, I
found one driver for a Unix efs143.z PCI/E-P54NP4 & PCI/I-P54NP4D dual
processor M/B APIC driver for SCO UNIX MPX R.3.2 V4.2.3.00.

Will I be able to proceed with the Debian GNU/Linux install even though
I'm missing this driver?  Is there a site I can find a list of hardware
supported by Debian GNU/Linux?  

Thanks for any help you can add to my confusion :D 
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Trouble with dselect

[Jim Kennedy]

The dselect program is having trouble seeing the packages for
installation; I put them in a directory named "install" on the c drive,
and also copied the "packages" file into the same directory. Only 20 or
so packages come up in the screen for selection. How can i get dselect
to see all the packages that are there?
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Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

[Marcus . Brinkmann]

Hello!

The guys from I2O left the specifications a good while on their server for
anonymous ftp :)

Many people that writes hardware drivers for linux should have this
document, I can imagine there was a good rush on their server before they
removed the access to it...

I2O is neither a problem nor a matter for Linux...

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote:

> I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O
> organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they
> THINK about the "technology" in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that
> the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious
> reasons, given the limitations of that NDA).
> 
> I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O
> hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether
> a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works.  Since I don't
> know much about I2O (I didn't feel like spending the $250 for a
> temporary membership in their club... go figure), I wonder, if anyone
> does know, is it all that great a "technology" ?
> 
> It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and
> OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even
> harder.
> 
> Just wondering out loud
> 
> -dh
> 
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Flow of boot process.

[R Chris Ross]

I am looking for some sort of flow diagram or detailed text on the 
boot process used by Debian.  The Linux System Administrator's guide 
has a small text on this and the /usr/doc/sysvinit has little.  
Some pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.


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Re: Stop rc5v2 client, Bovine team won 56 bit secret key challenge!

[Marcus . Brinkmann]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Britton wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello, nice to meet you after so long. Well... did they mention Linux in
> > 
> > Same to you Nicola.  I have finally given up and dropped one of my
> > classes, and I immediately took steps to make sure this didn't
> > artificially inflate my GPA by downloading the AWE Howto that you and
> > Marcus put together :)  
> 
> _Marcus_, really, _he_'s the only author of that fine work.

Hello to both of you!

...and _Nicola_ made sure that it also works with the AWE64.

Marcus



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[Q] source package building

[Aaron Denney]

Looking through the available documentation, it seems that the only way
to install source package is to use it to create a binary package, and
then install the newly created binary package.  Am I missing something or
is this the only way?  If this is the only way, why is this necessary?
I would think doing an installation after the build would be possible
without having to take the extra step of creating a binary package.
If this isn't the only way, could someone please explain how to go about
installing a binary package?  

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Re: LILO only says LI 01 01 01 01...

[Andy Spiegl]

According to  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> My experiences with this indicate that LILO CANNOT configure itself 
> on any except the first logical drive.  I didn't experiment with it, 
> but since removeable media (jaz drive) can be /dev/sda that made 
> my hard drive /dev/sdb.  When I tried to make lilo insert itself 
> under these conditions I got exactly the response you have described. 
>  I believe this is a bug in LILO, but I haven't tried to confirm it.

Hm, on my other Debian box I got 2 SCSI drives and no IDE.  Linux
is installed on the second drive (sdb) and everything works as
expected.  Lilo issues a warning that it's not installed on the
first (logical) drive, but that's intended and okay.

I guess, you're right that this is a bug in Lilo, but apparently
it only happens when IDE and SCSI are mixed.  Any comments anyone?

Bye,
 Andy.

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Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote:

> I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O
> organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they
> THINK about the "technology" in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that
> the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious
> reasons, given the limitations of that NDA).
> 
> I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O
> hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether
> a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works.  Since I don't

I think that it is necessary, that hardware manufacturers want sell their
products to users of free OS's. I think they don't believe that this group
can really play a role on the market.
Maybe the OpenHardware project should be wider popularized...
http://www.debian.org/OpenHardware

> 
> It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and
> OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even
> harder.

As far as I know the initiator of I2O is M$... It explains everything.

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Re: Make, LDFLAGS, library, wrong order?

[joost witteveen]

> I want to setup a makefile for a newbie user, so that all of his C files
> (that use math) compile and link OK. I was hoping to do that by simply
> creating a Makefile with only the line "LDFLAGS=-lm", but then the
> compiler is called with
> 
>   cc -lm file.c -o file
> 
> i.e., the wrong order (-lm should have appeared at the end of the 
> commandline).

Dammit, only seconds after posting, I see the answer:

File: make.info,  Node: Catalogue of Rules

   Linking a single object file
`N' is made automatically from `N.o' by running the linker
(usually called `ld') via the C compiler.  The precise command
used is `$(CC) $(LDFLAGS) N.o $(LOADLIBES)'.

i.e., I wanted LOADLIBES, and this works.

That does mean there's a bug in 
  File: make.info,  Node: Implicit Variables
as that node doesn't mention that LOADLIBES.

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Re: Make, LDFLAGS, library, wrong order?

[jdassen]

On Wed, Nov 12, 1997 at 12:45:25PM +0100, joost witteveen wrote:
> I want to setup a makefile for a newbie user, so that all of his C files
> (that use math) compile and link OK. I was hoping to do that by simply
> creating a Makefile with only the line "LDFLAGS=-lm", but then the
> compiler is called with
> 
>   cc -lm file.c -o file
> 
> i.e., the wrong order (-lm should have appeared at the end of the
> commandline).
> 
> Does anyone know of a variable I can set, or a rule I can create that
> (preferably easily) will do what I want (I.e., run the compiler with "cc
> -o file123 file123.c -lm", when he types "make file123")

info "GNU make" "Implicit Rules" "Catalogue of Rules"
:Linking a single object file
: `N' is made automatically from `N.o' by running the linker
: (usually called `ld') via the C compiler.  The precise command
: used is `$(CC) $(LDFLAGS) N.o $(LOADLIBES)'.

So, use LOADLIBES=-lm .

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Make, LDFLAGS, library, wrong order?

[joost witteveen]

I want to setup a makefile for a newbie user, so that all of his C files
(that use math) compile and link OK. I was hoping to do that by simply
creating a Makefile with only the line "LDFLAGS=-lm", but then the
compiler is called with

  cc -lm file.c -o file

i.e., the wrong order (-lm should have appeared at the end of the commandline).

Does anyone know of a variable I can set, or a rule I can create that
(preferably easily) will do what I want (I.e., run the compiler with
"cc -o file123 file123.c -lm", when he types "make file123")

Thanks, 

(feeling stupid, though).

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Re: Stop rc5v2 client, Bovine team won 56 bit secret key challenge!

[Nicola Bernardelli]

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Britton wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> 
> > Hello, nice to meet you after so long. Well... did they mention Linux in
> 
> Same to you Nicola.  I have finally given up and dropped one of my
> classes, and I immediately took steps to make sure this didn't
> artificially inflate my GPA by downloading the AWE Howto that you and
> Marcus put together :)  

_Marcus_, really, _he_'s the only author of that fine work.

> > their "press" pages on the WEB? It didn't jump to my eye indeed... nor to
> > Netscrape find text command anyway... And if it is definitely confirmed
> > they didn't, then I won't run their client anymore (apart that I also had
> > notified them a bug for which some of them told it may had been causing
> > some hundreds blocks lost per day). 
> 
> Nor mine, though I didn't look that carefully.  There was some hoopla from
> the guy who ran the client that found the key saying he wished it had been
> a Mac (it was found by an NT machine), but I don't recall anything about
> Linux.  

In fact.

> I have been meaning to look at some of the other efforts that were
> floating around and see if they started in on 64 (I kind of doubt it since
> they didn't have anywhere near the participation bovine did).  In
> particular I know there was one place that would give the winner
> $8000/$1, and that might be a good place to start a linux team, if
> they have a provision for it and are still around.  What bug was it that
> you found? I have the source to the 56 bit client but havn't gotten around
> to looking at it. 

Just interaction with the proxys... "flush complete" when it had simply
aborted due to the very first net problem occurring (anyway, _my_ opinion
was that those blocks would be sent, sooner or later, not lost... of
course if _any_ time a slow connection causes that thing and nobody is
really watching at the client's output then they are actually lost). 

Ok dear Britton, I'm not running the new client. Best wishes to them. 
BTW: your idea of a Linux team is great... I think there was one here in
debian-user who was pretty expert of cryptography, but that doesn't mean
there are time-resources to dig into the problem and prepare well and fast
running code. (A Debian team! That would be great!)

Nicola


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Re: syslogd beserk (solved)

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Since I changed some packages and removed some others syslogd is
> constantly running on a rex/bit-of-bo system.  It appends messages to
> /var/log/messages like
> 
> Nov 12 11:12:05 pebbles syslogd: select: Bad file number
> Nov 12 11:12:36 pebbles last message repeated 204124 times
> Nov 12 11:13:37 pebbles last message repeated 465160 times
> Nov 12 11:14:38 pebbles last message repeated 470270 times
> Nov 12 11:15:39 pebbles last message repeated 468368 times
> Nov 12 11:16:40 pebbles last message repeated 466648 times
> Nov 12 11:17:41 pebbles last message repeated 465624 times
> Nov 12 11:18:42 pebbles last message repeated 461256 times
> Nov 12 11:19:43 pebbles last message repeated 462968 times
> Nov 12 11:20:44 pebbles last message repeated 468731 times
> Nov 12 11:21:45 pebbles last message repeated 461928 times
> 
> How do I go about to find out what select call from what process is
> causing this?  Or is it syslogd itself looking at some corrupted file?
> Restarting syslogd or rebooting the machine doesn't help.

Boy, responses on this list are quick these days :).

I think I found what caused it:  I recently purged inn from the system.
In the /etc/syslog.conf file there were lines about files that weren't
there anymore:

# Logging for INN news system
#
news.crit  /var/log/news/news.crit
news.err   /var/log/news/news.err
news.notice-/var/log/news/news.notice

After commenting the lines with news.* out, syslogd became its quiet
self again.  Now, isn't the postrm script from the inn package supposed
to clean this up?  Iow, is this a bug that I should report?

Eric Meijer

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Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

[Dan Hugo]

I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O
organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they
THINK about the "technology" in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that
the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious
reasons, given the limitations of that NDA).

I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O
hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether
a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works.  Since I don't
know much about I2O (I didn't feel like spending the $250 for a
temporary membership in their club... go figure), I wonder, if anyone
does know, is it all that great a "technology" ?

It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and
OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even
harder.

Just wondering out loud

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syslogd beserk

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

Hi,

Since I changed some packages and removed some others syslogd is
constantly running on a rex/bit-of-bo system.  It appends messages to
/var/log/messages like

Nov 12 11:12:05 pebbles syslogd: select: Bad file number
Nov 12 11:12:36 pebbles last message repeated 204124 times
Nov 12 11:13:37 pebbles last message repeated 465160 times
Nov 12 11:14:38 pebbles last message repeated 470270 times
Nov 12 11:15:39 pebbles last message repeated 468368 times
Nov 12 11:16:40 pebbles last message repeated 466648 times
Nov 12 11:17:41 pebbles last message repeated 465624 times
Nov 12 11:18:42 pebbles last message repeated 461256 times
Nov 12 11:19:43 pebbles last message repeated 462968 times
Nov 12 11:20:44 pebbles last message repeated 468731 times
Nov 12 11:21:45 pebbles last message repeated 461928 times

How do I go about to find out what select call from what process is
causing this?  Or is it syslogd itself looking at some corrupted file?
Restarting syslogd or rebooting the machine doesn't help.

Thanks in advance,

Eric Meijer

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Re: wish and tclsh packages missing

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

[snip]
> 
> The "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO says to install
> libreadline2_2.1-4
> but I only find libreadline2_2.1-2.
> I never did find this debian package.

Go to http://www.debian.org/packages.html and do a search for
libreadline2.  Then you'll find libreadline2_2.1-7.deb (I just
downloaded it, I'm thinking about switching to libc6).

Eric Meijer

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Re: How honest is top

[Joey Hess]

Daniel J. Mashao wrote:
> USER   PID %CPU %MEM  NI   VSZ   RSS  SHRD  TT STAT   TIME COMMAND
> daniel3418 98.0 88.4   4 989M3 110M6   364  ?  R N  425:45 train -iter
>
> How can my program use  989M3 of virtual memory while I only have 128M
> real memory and 138 Swap memory. I am assuming that  989M3 means 989.3
> Megabytes - is that correct?

Hm, I don't know what the Mn prfix is supposed to mean.

However, your confusion over what VSZ means is understandable and easily
cleared up. VSZ is the "virtual size" of the program. Virtual size means
how much memory the process has allocated for use. This doen't mean it's
using all that memory. Linux will let a process allocate more memory than
the total memory + swap of the system -- there is no problem until the
program actually tries to use all of it. The amount of memory your program
is actually using is under the RSS column.

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minicom startup message

[G. Crimp]

Hi,

I recently reinstalled Debian 1.1 because of a flaky disk.  
Minicom has changed slightly since the new install.  It still works fine, 
but now, when invoked from the shell prompt (where else ?) I get the 
following message below the prompt before minicom actually takes over the 
screen :

** Parameter pname9 is public, but is marked private in global config file

Can anyone tell me what I have changed for the first installation ?

TIA.

Gerald Crimp


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Diald/Ipmasq problem solved and working *great*!

[Michael Legart]

Hi, 

just wonna thank all those who helped me with questions on ipmasq and
diald. It's working, and really rocks compared with ie. Wingate. All my
frinds who before doubted linux, now has surrenderd ... Linux ruuulz!


regards,

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Re: wish and tclsh packages missing

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Jameson Burt wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can find the packages "wish" and "tclsh"?
> Are these packages in some developers' directory, since they seem to not 
> notice missing dependent-packages?

I belive wish and tclsh are provided by the various tcl packages. tcl80
certainly does. You can try the contents search at www.debain.org to be
sure.

I think gimp's min-data package is currently in incomming, waiting to be
installed in the archive.

Jason


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xntpd & syslog

[Zlatko Rek]

Hi,

Can someone tell how to disable xntpd logging facility.
Now, I have 2 xntpd logs per minute.

Regards.
Zlatko


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Re: Where to nice fetching mail?

[tko]

David Morris writes:
> 
> I have a cron job that runs every half an hour to grab my waiting email
> and whatever usenet messages are applicable for the groups I am reading.
> The trouble is that once it starts the system load increases rapidly (to
> anywhere from 3 to 5) and causes any other process I am running to stall
> until it has finished its course. 
> 
> It is beginning to frustrate me. I know the simple solution is to buy more
> RAM but with my computer budget basically in negative figures when it
> comes to my wife's point of view I need to explore any other options
> first.
> 
> I was wondering the other day if it was possible to reduce the paralyzing
> load by nicing the process somewhere, but I have doubts and am wondering

try "renice" ('man renice' - for more details)


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wish and tclsh packages missing

[Jameson Burt]

I see no wish or tclsh packages.
These are required by the Debian hamm package exmh_2.0zeta-3.deb.
I have had this problem with other packages that required dependent-packages 
not at ftp.debian.org.

The following packages were missing for gimp  gimp-data-min_0.99.14-1_all.de
b
libmpeg1_1.2.2-1_i386.deb
I eventually found these debian packages at
 ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/bins/debian

The "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO says to install
libreadline2_2.1-4
but I only find libreadline2_2.1-2.
I never did find this debian package.

Does anyone know where I can find the packages "wish" and "tclsh"?
Are these packages in some developers' directory, since they seem to not 
notice missing dependent-packages?
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Re: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

[Simon's Mailing List Account]

We also need to fix the mailing list configuration so it doesn't happen
so much. Smartlist (which is what the debian lists apparently run on)
has a configuration setting that has it drop postings from people
not on the list.

Simon

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> We need an attorney who really hates spam. Someone who is willing to work
> pro-bono to collect an advertising fee from our spammers.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Bruce
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> Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it?
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dmsdosfs

[Luka Pravica]

Hi,

I tried to use dmsdosfs-0.8.3.0 to access doublespace 3 compressed drive
on
my widows partition. I followed all instructions, recompiled kernel...
But when I try add module to the kernel with insmod dmsdos, I get
following error messages:

/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_read_super
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_rename
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_unlink
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_put_super
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_rmdir
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_create
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_lookup
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_read_inode
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_mkdir
/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/dmsdos.o: unresolved symbol msdos_unlink_umsdos

During compilation of kernel, there were few warnings about dmsdosfs,
but no errors. I use kernel 2.0.30.


Does anybody knows what I have done wrong?

Thanks for any help

Luka


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Re: Netscape 4 question

[Shaleh]

It turns out that my preference.js file in ~/.netscape was corrupt.  I
had to amnually add a line or two.

Mike Hallock wrote:
> 
> Shaleh wrote:
> >
> > When i try to run Netscape I get a "IOT trapped/abort (core dump)"
> > message.  Anyone seen this.  It just started last night and to my
> > knowledge nothing has changed.
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Re: Debian Newbie Setup Questions...

[Brian Mays]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Akins) writes:

> Hello. I'm considering trying out Linux (Debian in particular) and I have
> some questions concerning the Debian distribution.
> 
> My machine:
>   Pentium 90MHz laptop (DFI model 7200)
>   Mouse Port mouse
>   32 meg ram
>   800 meg IDE hardrive
>   1.4meg floppy
>   PCIC compatable PCMCIA slot (I have no idea what chipset, I just
> know Windows 95 uses the PCIC driver, and it works).
>   Cirrus Logic 754X video.
>   800x600 TFT LCD monitor.
>   28.8 hayes "standard" PCMCIA modem.
> 
> My big concern is the PCMCIA slot - since I'll want to dial into my ISP
> once the floppy install is done and finish the install using FTP, I need to
> know if the Debian base floppy install supports PCMCIA in general (and my
> PCIC compatable chipset specifically), and what do I need to do to use it
> (if present), otherwise I won't be able to finish installing the stuff.

You will need, in addition to the base floppies, two extra packages
for PCMCIA support, which can be found under the binary-i386/admin
directory of the distribution:

pcmcia-cs   (in file pcmcia-cs_2.9.6-3.deb)
pcmcia-modules-2.0.29-7 (in file pcmcia-modules-2.0.29-7_2.9.6-3.deb)

You can download these files from a Debian ftp site and transfer them
to your computer.  For example, you can place them on a DOS floppy,
and mount that floppy with 

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt

The files will then be available under /mnt on your system.  Once you
have installed the base system and transfered the .deb files for the
PCMCIA utilities, you can install these packages using the following
command:

dpkg -i 

where  is the name of the .deb file.

The PCMCIA utilities should work with your modem without the need for
additional configuration.

Brian


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Re: [OFF TOPIC] M$ Explorer for Solaris!!!!

[G. Crimp]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> MS said that there is no Linux port.
> 

sorry, but I am not disappointed.

> 
> Brian K Servis wrote:
> > 
> > Look out *NIX world here comes M$!!!
> > 
> > M$ has released preview 1 of M$ Explorer for Solaris 2.5.
> > http://www.microsoft.com/ie/ie40/download/unix.htm.  It is even more
> > bloated than Communicator it says it need 30M of disk space when done
> > installing and 60M during the install, YIKES!
> > 
> > Brian Servis


Ta, 

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Re: HELP! smail won't deliver!

[Tommy Lakofski]

On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

> Received FROM: ... HOST: 3dillusion.3dillusion.com [198.109.162.43] ...
> Deferred TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ERROR:(ERR164) router
>  inet_hosts: BIND server failure: : Connection timed out
> 
> before, all my mail was coming to '3dillusion.com' ... and not
> 3dillusion.3dillusion.com.. I want to change it back to 3dillusion.com and
> have smail work.  I've attached my bind configuration for 3dillusion.com

Change this:

43  IN  PTR 3dillusion.3dillusion.com.

to this:

43  IN  PTR 3dillusion.com.

in your in-addr.arpa zone file. Also check /etc/hosts.

TL.


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Re: Posting to usenet

[Trevor Barrie]

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Martin Bialasinski wrote:

> > > # user's mail address, if not [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > mail_address=
> > 
> > Okay, that works. (OTOH, I'm not enamoured with tin, so it would be nice
> > if I could figure out how to get trn to work.)
> > 
> You should set a line like this in trn as well (after we get your system
> working). Your [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a valid emailaddress if
> someone chooses to reply via mail. It is not nice to get bounces because
> of screwed up addresses.

I'm not sure what you mean here... are you just referring to the fact that
I can't receive e-mail as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", since "drollden"
isn't actually known to ibm's nameserver?

I think it's inews that needs this information rather than trn, since trn
doesn't do posting on its own... according to the man pages, what I need
is a fromhost: line in /etc/news/inn.conf. (OTOH, I don't have such a
file, so I'm wondering if the debian inewsinn package puts the
configuration file somewhere else. Still, I'll try copying the example
inn.conf and see if it works.)

> So fix your /etc/hosts
> 
> Try hostname and dnsdomainname again and then trn.

Okay, dnsdomainname now returns "ibm.net", and trn failed to produce any
errors when I did a test post. I forgot to take care of the fromhost
thing, so my test post probably went out as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]",
but that shouldn't be too hard to correct.

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Update: mounting MS-DOS fs onto Linux

[Charles Read]

I have not yet tried to install LILO.  But I have rebuilt
Linux with a different device-set about 2-3 times.
I'm not sure how that could impact the /dev/hda1
partition since that drive is excluded from my boot
setup files.

BTW, /dev/hda1 has about 2GB of Win95 software,
so my preference is to avoid re-building it.

Any further clues?

-c

>I got that same error when I ran liloconfig and tried to install LILO 
on my
>Win95 drive. Big mistake :-(  I tried to boot Windows 95 with a boot 
disk
>and got an invalid media type error on accessing drive c. Now I have 
had to
>reinstall every thing after formating my hard drive.
>
>
>
>># mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt
>>[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT 16,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap]
>>[me=0xf8,cs=8,#f=2,fs=32,fl=0,ds=32,de=0,
>>data=32,se=0,ts=7805889,ls=512]
>>Transaction block size = 512
>>VFS:  Can't find a valid MS-DOS filesystem on dev 03:01
>>mount:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1
>>or too many mounted filesystems
>>
>>Any clues what's wrong here?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Charles


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Re: [OFF TOPIC] M$ Explorer for Solaris!!!!

[Britton]

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > MS said that there is no Linux port.

This is not surprising and you can't blame MS really.  Despite all their
success, they live on a weak OS whose purpose in life is to run a buggy 
word processor which they must sell to each customer multiple times in
order to survive.  Gates has said he looks at free software as his biggest
threat, and it looks like he's right.

> Sun Computer running Solaris.  Thats all they are planning on releasing
> for.

Which is a complete cop out in today's world.  They only do this to have
something to babble about when the next round on anti-trust debate starts.

>  
> > 
> > 
> > Brian K Servis wrote:
> > > 
> > > Look out *NIX world here comes M$!!!
> > > 
> > > M$ has released preview 1 of M$ Explorer for Solaris 2.5.
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/ie/ie40/download/unix.htm.  It is even more
> > > bloated than Communicator it says it need 30M of disk space when done
> > > installing and 60M during the install, YIKES!
> > > 
> > > Brian Servis
> > > --
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> > > Purdue University   http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
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Re: Stop rc5v2 client, Bovine team won 56 bit secret key challenge!

[Britton]

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

> Hello, nice to meet you after so long. Well... did they mention Linux in

Same to you Nicola.  I have finally given up and dropped one of my
classes, and I immediately took steps to make sure this didn't
artificially inflate my GPA by downloading the AWE Howto that you and
Marcus put together :)  I havn't read it yet but within a day or two I
will be able to get involved again.

> their "press" pages on the WEB? It didn't jump to my eye indeed... nor to
> Netscrape find text command anyway... And if it is definitely confirmed
> they didn't, then I won't run their client anymore (apart that I also had
> notified them a bug for which some of them told it may had been causing
> some hundreds blocks lost per day). 

Nor mine, though I didn't look that carefully.  There was some hoopla from
the guy who ran the client that found the key saying he wished it had been
a Mac (it was found by an NT machine), but I don't recall anything about
Linux.  I have been meaning to look at some of the other efforts that were
floating around and see if they started in on 64 (I kind of doubt it since
they didn't have anywhere near the participation bovine did).  In
particular I know there was one place that would give the winner
$8000/$1, and that might be a good place to start a linux team, if
they have a provision for it and are still around.  What bug was it that
you found? I have the source to the 56 bit client but havn't gotten around
to looking at it. 

> 
> Nicola
> 
> 
> > Anyway, the
> > bovine team has plunged straight into the 64 bit effort!  Since
> > involvement has really exploded lately, they figure they may be able to
> > slove it almost as fast if they get the same participation.  I already
> > have the new client, rc564, running.  If anyone wants to get involved, I
> > would be happy to help with the few questions that may come up as yo
> > uinstall and configure the very straightforward client. 
> > 
> > > 
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Re: Update: mounting MS-DOS fs onto Linux

[Ben Pfaff]

"Collin Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I got that same error when I ran liloconfig and tried to install LILO on my
> Win95 drive. Big mistake :-(  I tried to boot Windows 95 with a boot disk
> and got an invalid media type error on accessing drive c. Now I have had to
> reinstall every thing after formating my hard drive.

If that happens to you again, run Norton Disk Doctor.  When I did that
to a friend's computer by mistake, it fixed it immediately, and
perfectly.  (And he's still my friend :-)
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Re: Update: mounting MS-DOS fs onto Linux

[Collin Rose]

I got that same error when I ran liloconfig and tried to install LILO on my
Win95 drive. Big mistake :-(  I tried to boot Windows 95 with a boot disk
and got an invalid media type error on accessing drive c. Now I have had to
reinstall every thing after formating my hard drive.



># mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt
>[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT 16,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap]
>[me=0xf8,cs=8,#f=2,fs=32,fl=0,ds=32,de=0,
>data=32,se=0,ts=7805889,ls=512]
>Transaction block size = 512
>VFS:  Can't find a valid MS-DOS filesystem on dev 03:01
>mount:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1
>or too many mounted filesystems
>
>Any clues what's wrong here?
>
>Regards,
>Charles
>
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Re: MTA Suggestion

[D. J. Bernstein]

For anyone planning to write new code using /var/spool/mail or /tmp:
http://www.netspace.org/lsv-archive/bugtraq.html contains many examples
of insecure code produced by programmers who thought, incorrectly, that
they understood how to use world-writable directories.

> it is not at all difficult to set the permissions on /var/spool/mail
> correctly, and it is trivial to make adduser (or whatever other user
> creation procedure you use) run "touch /var/spool/mail/USER ; chown
> USER.mail /var/spool/mail/user"

Sorry, but the real world doesn't work that way. Most MUAs---including,
for example, every MUA that does dot-locking---need mailboxes in a
writable directory. That means either

   * a world-writable directory, which has historically been a disaster,
 and which continues to cause security problems in new MUAs; or

   * a group-mail-writable directory, with MUAs all setgid mail, which
 has historically been a disaster, and which continues to cause
 security problems in new MUAs; or

   * a user-owned directory, which is trivial to handle safely.

Notably absent from your commentary has been any explanation of the
_disadvantages_ of putting mail in a user-owned directory. Yes, of
course there are transition costs, which is why people can continue to
use /var/spool/mail with qmail until they're comfortable switching. 

> your NFS-based arguments against /var/spool/mail

Once again: My discussion of /var/spool/mail has nothing to do with NFS.

> > (Big ISPs have another problem with /var/spool/mail: on most systems,
> > reading a large directory takes a long time.)
> which is an argument against maildir, is it not?

No. The scaling problems with /var/spool/mail are both quantitatively
and qualitatively much more severe. (Note that maildir is designed only
for reliable handling of incoming messages, not for long-term storage.)

> maildir may have some advantages in an NFS environment,

As I already explained, maildir has advantages in any environment.

> what's the point of having your mail in this great new format if you
> cant find a mail reader which can use it?

It is an _option_. Right now it's supported by qmail-pop3d and mutt and
a patched version of pine; as more readers support it, more users will
be able to switch to it. That's called ``progress,'' not ``problem.''

> > Change ./Mailbox to '|preline procmail' in the qmail-start invocation.
> why isn't this in the FAQ?

It's discussed in the INSTALL files for 1.02.

See, some users _ask questions_ and _suggest improvements_ rather than
spewing misinformation all over the net.

> what about relaying TO particular host/domain names?

Add the domain names to rcpthosts.

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Re: 1997 World Series

[Andrew J Tarr]

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Dear debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> Great News from Nikco Sports...
> 
> Because of your noted sports interests, you have been selected to 

Gosh, I wonder what gave him that idea. Someone been discussing baseball
at length on this list? 

 Andrew Tarr 

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We need an attorney who really hates spam. Someone who is willing to work
pro-bono to collect an advertising fee from our spammers.

Thanks

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