Re: Partitioning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - BIOS imposes the current partitioning scheme opon us, and limits the number of primary partitions to four (not true - BIOS knows nothing about partitions and doesn't care either). It does have the 1024 cylinders problem though. Only because of backwards compatibility. Two ways to deal with the problem exist on modern BIOSes: - CHS translation, effectively moving the limit from 504 MB to about 2 GB, without losing compatibility with DOS. - A new BIOS interface, moving the limit to about 2 TB, losing compatibility with DOS. Take your pick. What many people seem to be confused about is that many, if not most, decisions concerning this stuff are driven by market forces requiring backward compatibility. Let me state _again_ that the BIOS is nothing but a piece of software in a PROM - it can easily be altered should the market so request. The design of the PC is flexible enough here. As I understand it, (at least with DOS/windows/OS2), you can only see one primary partition _per disk_. This was also what various HOWTO's seemed to say. No, no, NO! How many times do I have to say this: I HAVE MULTIPLE PRIMARY DOS PARTITIONS, AND BOTH DOS AND WINDOWS '95 SEE ALL OF THEM! What does it take to convince you that I'm not lying?! Do I need to mail an output of DOS fdisk perhaps? Or would you then think I forged that? Taking a deep breath The only problem with multiple primary DOS partitions that both DOS and W95 have, is that their fdisk refuses to create more than one. For a workaround, and more details, see the docs of my boot manager (see sig). Once created, they are seen and accesible. The fact that windows (95 and NT) cannot use partitions properly - they *require* that they are on the first primary partition on a disk - means that partitioning is _alot_ of hard work (trust me - I've spent a week reinstalling things and messing around). I doubt if you've spend as much time partitioning as I have developing my boot manager ;-) I have very little experience with NT, but I know for a fact that Windows '95 does _not_ require to be installed to the first primary partition of a harddisk - on my harddisk, it is installed on the fourth. The requirements are: - It must be installed on the first harddisk. This requirement goes for both DOS and W95; for DOS 6.22 and 7.0 (the DOS part of W95) there is a workaround if there are no primary DOS partitions on the first harddisk. - The active flag must be set to the booted partition. If W95 is booted from the fourth partition, but the active flag is set to the first, it will hang. One feature I look for in a design is easy modification in the future (which is normally always needed for one reason or another). The PC having come this far, I'd say it apparently was modifyable enough to give us Pentium PCs without losing the ability to run DOS. Your list of things you object to is not exhaustive, and some of it I agree with; I am not defending everything to do with PCs, I just hate to see misinformation - especially on a list otherwise so helpful and accurate. - allowing spaces in filename - *completely* *braindead* kilu:~$ Filename with spaces kilu:~$ ls Filename with spaces I assume you are now going to tell me that the Linux design is completely braindead too? Or perhaps different rules apply to operating systems you like than to operating systems you don't like? Gertjan. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: clueless people on debian-user
I'll put up with some of the spam, and as for misdirected mail, welll... being a complete Linux newbie, I've probably submitted my share. But I've learned a lot from the folks on this list. I'd sure hate to see it go -- Steve Morrill Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Pub key id: 0xF2459FCD Debian LINUX Where I really want to go today! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Error Talk
After switching my servers(2) around I now get the following message when I try to talk with anyone: [Couldn't bind to control socket : Cannot assign requested address (99). Why ? What can I do to fix it I'm sure it just a configuration error as I didn't change anything else. Thanks, Matthew -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: REDHAT 4.1 SONY CDU-33A
Zula wrote:
I'm using the Debian linux and have that same problem with the sony
cdu31a x2 speed. I'm at the installing OS and device drivers, It
can'r pick prorietary cdrom. I made the device drivers {rawrite2 -f
drv1440.bin -d a:). Is there something i miss? I tried the
cdu31a=0x320,0 lbut still no luck.. any help will be appreciated.
Well first off, you will need to know what I/O base address your CDROM
is set. Usually this can be found by looking at the driver line in
MSDOS (if you still have it), or by looking at the proprietary adapter
card itself. Usually this number increases evenly, so your particular
CDROM might could be anywhere from 0x320-0x360. You may wish to try
number in between until you find one that works.
The ,0 on the line indicates that you wish to use Polled I/O mode
with the CDROM instead of Direct DMA access. To tell the driver to use
DMA, use ,1 instead.
A question. Does your CDU drive hook into a proprietary controller
card? If not what is it attached to?
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Is Perl 5.004.04-3 Package Routine Broken? WAS(Re: Perl 5.004.04-2 causes core dumps...)
Martin Bialasinski wrote: BTW, the version of PERL I'm trying to install is 5.004.04-2. There is a perl 5.004.04-3 at ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/DONE/ Maybe it will solve your problems. New problem. When I attempt to install the Perl 5.004.04-3 file, it breaks at the post-installation phase. As such, other updates that require Perl will not configure themselves. I have even fetched the file manually and used dpkg (with most all of the debugging options) and still no luck. I can run the Perl post install script by hand with configure and it runs just fine, but for some reason dpkg and dselect both tell me that it can't configure it because the post install script returned error 123. In the interrim I have obtained the older Bo release of Perl and have installed that instead. Is this a problem with only my machine, or has anyone else experienced this too? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Need help in X Windows installation
At 08:50 AM 12/12/97 +0100, Sten Anderson wrote: Tommy Lakofski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: whoops, this should have gone to the list too. -- Forwarded message -- On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: [ I said: ] It is NOT necessary for the last command to be started with exec. In fact, exec should only be used on the window manager, and only if that is the last command in .xinitrc. The problem is more likely the use of 's. Every program started in .xinitrc should have appended EXCEPT the window manager. Doesn't a /bin/sh stick around if you don't use exec? Or did that change at some point? I think I put exec in my .xsession before the windowmanager when I first installed debian (buzz) to make the /bin/sh go away, and it's been there ever since. Yes, by using exec to launch a command from a script, the process associated with the script (/bin/sh) is replaced by the process associated with the command. This saves a few system resources, since the script process is not laying sleeping in the background for no purpose. The program pstree is an excellent tool to see the effect of this. However, the improvement of performance by this is barely measurable. I am simply arguing that while it is generally a good idea to uses exec, it is not that important, and certainly not required. In fact it might give you some unexpected effects, if exec is used on anything else than the last command in a script. The last line of my .xinitrc file 'exec's a window manager without the ampersand and so far, I have installed all window managers and by far they all worked except for olvwm. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Bryan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Need help in X Windows installation
On 12 Dec 1997, Sten Anderson wrote: Tommy Lakofski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, by using exec to launch a command from a script, the process associated with the script (/bin/sh) is replaced by the process associated with the command. This saves a few system resources, since the script process is not laying sleeping in the background for no purpose. The program pstree is an excellent tool to see the effect of this. However, the improvement of performance by this is barely measurable. I am simply arguing that while it is generally a good idea to uses exec, it is not that important, and certainly not required. In fact it might give you some unexpected effects, if exec is used on anything else than the last command in a script. But using exec is and has been the default way of starting the window manager for years, so I don't think there is a real reason to change it. Look at the last lines of /etc/X11/Xsession on any Debian system: -cut-here- if [ -x $startup ] grep -q ^allow-user-xsession /etc/X11/config then exec $startup else xterm -ls if [ -e /etc/X11/window-managers ] then for i in `sed 's/#.*//' /etc/X11/window-managers` do if [ -x $i ] then exec $i fi done fi if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm ] then exec fvwm fi exec twm fi -cut-here- BTW, $startup is set to $HOME/.xsession earlier in the script. What this does, is: 1. exec $HOME/.xsession , if it exists and is executable and is allowed to be executed by the sysadmin. This means that the rest of this script is not executed, just like you would expect. You do not want to exit your `own' windows manager only to see the system-default window manager being started. 2. If $HOME/.xsession does not exist, it first starts an xterm in the background. 3. Then it checks /etc/X11/window-managers for a valid window manager. If that exists, it is exec'ed and that is the last thing this script does. 4. If that fails, it first tries if an executable /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm exists. If it does, it is exec'ed and that is the last thing this script does. 5. If all the above have failed, twm is exec'ed without any test, as it is in the same package (xbase) as this script and is most probably properly configured (properly meaning that it runs without severe errors). Again, that is the last thing this script does. The above scheme of finding a window manager to launch _depends_ on the behaviour of the `exec' command. In this case, it really is needed to keep the script being readable. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: clueless people on debian-user
On 12 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think having our lists on news benefits us, and we can tolerate the spam and the mis-directed mail. What do you think? Ummm, I guess we could: - shut down the news gateway, and restrict posts to debian-user to those who are subscribed to it, and make subscription a little tricky (confirmation via a reply that requires the user to jump through a small hoop -- in effect an intelligence test, although one easy enough for small children, pets, etc. to complete, but not the majority of AOL users... ;) or, we could: - live with it, and/or filter incoming messages appropriately with procmail (filtering messages which match the expression (|) is interestingly effective, I find). I favor the second option, I think. For those occasional stupid/misplaced messages, the 'D' key works quite nicely. TL -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partitioning
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Adrian Bridgett wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 01:01:43PM +0100, Gertjan Klein wrote: Bill Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your misinformation was that: - BIOS imposes the current partitioning scheme opon us, and limits the number of primary partitions to four (not true - BIOS knows nothing about partitions and doesn't care either). It does have the 1024 cylinders problem though. Yes, but modern workarounds like LBA mode and CHS mode work quite well with Linux. - DOS, Windows and OS/2 don't see other primary partitions than the one they booted from (not true - DOS and Windows see other primary DOS partitions just fine, and OS/2 won't even boot when they are present and not hidden). As I understand it, (at least with DOS/windows/OS2), you can only see one primary partition _per disk_. This was also what various HOWTO's seemed to say. No, no, no. Try this: - take a computer that has one hard disk with one primary partition and DOS (any version that can be booted from that hard disk, so MS-DOS 1.0 probably won't work) installed on that partition. - use the free FIPS utility to split the partition. - now you have a working DOS system with two primary partitions that are both recognised (and can be used normally) by DOS. The fact that windows (95 and NT) cannot use partitions properly - they *require* that they are on the first primary partition on a disk - means that partitioning is _alot_ of hard work (trust me - I've spent a week reinstalling things and messing around). Indeed they cannot use them *properly*, but they can use them. Don't bother trying installing DOS on the second primary partition. But it will recognise any other DOS partitions you have once it is booted. One feature I look for in a design is easy modification in the future (which is normally always needed for one reason or another). Most things designed by MS or to do with an IBM-PC are not. This ain't a flame - it's just fact: - BIOS date problems - compared with Unix which will eventually hit a problem 60 years after it's birth) - IRQ cascading - only now going 32-bit (cf Mac/Atari/Amiga - 32/16bit since introduction) - FAT filesystem - VFAT (and even NTFS IIRC) - upper/lower case confusion - allowing spaces in filename - *completely* *braindead* Now, of all these facts the only one you call braindead is exactly the only one that isn't braindead. Any decent OS allows spaces in filenames, including Linux and anything else that looks like Unix. In fact, on an ext2fs partition you can use any character except ASCII 0 [1] in a filename, including CR, LF, *, ?, (, ), \ and even / . Many programs don't work properly with many of these characters, but those problems are bugs in the programs -- the filesystem allows the characters, so the programs operating on the filesystem should handle them. Remco [1] this is used internally by the filesystem to indicate the end of a filename, so obviously you can't use it inside a filename -- If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick-boxing -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Smail and procmail?
Hi, This is probably a silly question, but I thought I'd ask anyway: How does one set up procmail as the default mail delivery program when using smail as MTA? I have set up procmail on a per-user basis (using a proper ~/.forward and ~/.procmailrc) and it works, but I would like procmail to handle all local mail delivery. If this has become a default for standard Debian systems in the past year I may well have missed it since I haven't done a full re-install since February or so. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Minicom
I installed and configured minicom but I'm still have a few problems. I ran minicom and entered the prefix and phone number, the modem dialed-up and connected to my isp. I then entered my user id and passwd and it when into ppp data or something to that effect and started sending data (aka junk and random symbols). I hit ctrl-A then q, and it asked me if I wanted to quit without resetting, I said yes and it dropped me back at the prompt. I typed pppd and it didn't do nothing, but it didn't give me an error. Then I when to ping myisp, ping www.linux.org, ping www.cnet.com and alot other, but every ping came back, network unreachable, or host not found. Same thing happens with telnet and ftp. But sometimes if I pick up the phone I can hear the modem working. But if I wait about 1 minute after I type in pppd, I get a dial-tone. Any information would be pleased, Bud -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Minicom
On Fri, Dec 12, 1997 at 09:00:38PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed and configured minicom but I'm still have a few problems. I ran minicom and entered the prefix and phone number, the modem dialed-up and connected to my isp. I then entered my user id and passwd and it when into ppp data or something to that effect and started sending data (aka junk and random symbols). I hit ctrl-A then q, and it asked me if I wanted to quit without resetting, I said yes and it dropped me back at the prompt. I typed pppd and it didn't do nothing, but it didn't give That's because it tried to connect a ppp session with the terminal you typed it on, eg the virtual console. use pppd /dev/ttyS1 or whatever port your modem is on. You will probably want to have some other options set in /etc/ppp/options too. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Sanyo 20x CDROM
I just got a Sanyo 20x ide/atapi cdrom drive and my kernel detects it but I can't seem to mount it to /cdrom, what /dev/... file is the sanyo cd linked to? every one I found I tried got the following message: the kernel doesn't recognize ... as a block device G'razel the shifty kitty Tapestries FurryMUCK SPR Furtoonia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aye.net/~kestrel To err is human, To purr feline. -- Robert Byrne -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: clueless people on debian-user
bruce writes: I think having our lists on news benefits us, and we can tolerate the spam and the mis-directed mail. What do you think? Agreed. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Minicom
This sounds like you havn't specified your dns. You need to do that as a numeric, that is, in my case, 204.123.37.23 - try adding the line: nameserver111.111.111.11 to your /etc/resolv.conf file where 111.111.111.11 is the proper string for your dns. HTH On 13-Dec-97 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed and configured minicom but I'm still have a few problems. I ran minicom and entered the prefix and phone number, the modem dialed-up and connected to my isp. I then entered my user id and passwd and it when into ppp data or something to that effect and started sending data (aka junk and random symbols). I hit ctrl-A then q, and it asked me if I wanted to quit without resetting, I said yes and it dropped me back at the prompt. I typed pppd and it didn't do nothing, but it didn't give me an error. Then I when to ping myisp, ping www.linux.org, ping www.cnet.com and alot other, but every ping came back, network unreachable, or host not found. Same thing happens with telnet and ftp. But sometimes if I pick up the phone I can hear the modem working. But if I wait about 1 minute after I type in pppd, I get a dial-tone. Any information would be pleased, Bud -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary bought a pair of skates upon the ice to frisk now wasn't that a crazy way her sweet young *? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: clueless people on debian-user
I think having our lists on news benefits us, and we can tolerate the spam and the mis-directed mail. What do you think? I think that we need to make the newsgroups read-only. Any submissions to the list should be required to come via e-mail. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mirroring hamm question
I don't have an answer to Caleb's questioning about mirroring hamm, but I do have a related question. There are symbolic links in the hamm tree which point to the corresponding bo file for files which have not yet been upgraded to hamm. I would like to mirror all of hamm, and only that part of bo which is pointed to by links from hamm. From reading the mirror man page, it looks to me like I could do this by flattening out the remote site symlinks using ``flags_recursive+L'', but I would rather have those bo files pointed to by hamm links actually mirrored in a (partial) bo tree, and keep the links as links in my local hamm mirror. Is it possible to tell mirror to do that? I don't have enough disk space to have a complete mirror of bo in addition to hamm, and I like to be able to see the links as they indicate that the file has not yet been uploaded for hamm. Kirk Hilliard -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fdformat problem
I don't know if this has ever been discussed but I ran into a little problem wit h fdformat and thought I would share my solution just in case others have the sa me problem. I'm one of these people who have 1000s of junk 1.44 floppies laying around that I usually end up formatting and re-using them. When I used the fdformat command to format them, it would format and then execute an mformat verify. If I tried t o format another disk immediately after it completed, I got No Device errors and no other format could be done. I found that if the floppy device is mounted and then unmounted, it corrects the problem. Mounting and unmounting every flopp y before formatting it can become quite tedious so I made a bash command script and placed it in my /usr/local/bin directory and called it floppyformat. I have not had a problem since. Below is a copy of the commands I used in floppyformat for the newbies out there in Linux land: # /usr/local/bin/floppyformat # must be root to execute unless you have mount capabilities for your users mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy umount /floppy fdformat /dev/fd0 I have received so much help from this group I thought I should start giving bac k to it. Hope this helps others out. Also, if someone out there could explain to me the reasons why this operation wo rks, please let me know so I can add it to my log book. I tripped across it acci dentally and would like to know the mechanics behind the solution. Keith -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- E-Mail: Keith Holler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: #5386440 Date: 12-Dec-97 Time: 23:04:18 __ _ / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ppp 2.3 options file is broken?
I have twice tried upgrading to ppp 2.3, but the provided options file contains the dns-addr lines but pppd complains about unrecognise options. How do I fix this? Other people seem to be using it successfully. There are a number of outstanding bugs with ppp which do not look too difficult to fix. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Active v.s. Passive hubs
Hi, I am going to rewire all the phone lines in my home using grade 5 UTP wires. I am also going to have a star configuration for phone and ethernet wires. I have a Linux server and 2 or 3 NT clients. Even though I have three or four computers. I will have 12 points in the network. One computer (laptop) can be used in different locations. The longest run of a single wire is less than 50 meters. Do I need Active of passive hub? -Oz -- NAME Oz Dror, Los Angeles, California EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux since 8/15/94 PHONE Fax (310) 474-3126 -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.2 mQBtAzA/tLQAAAEDAKUy/TEjQ/jiZ+9/WJb/+NHxqkvOxGZ3W/F2JCNm5v5ZTZz+ BVZC9GM/I+plQ8xz+7B+KhDSVax8gxNTAkJ+I7P/zAP2ZDMwVf4lq5ZFxMJC+7c7 ET+hNtmQUt8vCVR8hQAFEbQZT3ogRHJvciA8ZHJvckBuZXRjb20uY29tPg== =EU23 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Python-tk giving Xpm errors, can't find tkinter [unstable]
When I try to run a python script that uses Tk, I get: ### BEGIN INCLUDE _kruto[p4]:~% grail [1] 25187 _kruto[p4]:~% python: can't resolve symbol 'XpmCreateXpmImageFromData'] python: can't resolve symbol '_IO_putc' python: can't resolve symbol 'XpmFreeXpmImage' python: can't resolve symbol 'XpmReadFileToXpmImage' Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/bin/grail, line 33, in ? import Tkinter # Do this first to avoid confusing ni on Mac/Win File /usr/lib/python1.4/tkinter/Tkinter.py, line 11, in ? import tkinter ImportError: No module named tkinter [1] + exit 1 grail ### END INCLUDE This just happened this week after a bulk upgrade. (Other than that the upgrade went very smoothly.) By bulk upgrade I mean letting dselect upgrade everything it thought necessary. A similar problem happened to me several months ago. I don't remember the error messages, but all python TK programs refused to run. It was solved then by reinstalling tcl tk. But this time around, I tried reinstalling python-tk, tcl, tk, xpm and xlib, and none of them helped. [python-tk] Depends: python-base (= 1.4.0-4), libc5 (= 5.4.0-0), tcl76 (= 7.6-1), tk42 (= 4.2-1), xlib6 (= 3.2-0) ii python-base 1.4.0-4An interactive object-oriented ii python-tk 1.4.0-4Tk support modules for Python. ii libc5 5.4.33-7 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time ii libc6 2.0.5c-0.1 The GNU C library version 2 (run-time ii tcl76 7.6p2-7The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.6 - ii tk424.2p2-7The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.2 - ii xlib6 3.3.1-2Shared libraries required by X clients ii xpm4.7 3.4j-0.5 X Pixmap libraries (for libc5) - ii xpm4g 3.4j-0.5 X Pixmap libraries (for libc6) - I think the real problem is those Xpm messages, because Tkinter.py tries to import first _tkinter.py and if that fails, tkinter.py. If I import _tkinter directly, I get fewer error messages: _kruto[p4]:/usr/lib/python1.4/tkinter% python Python 1.4 (Mar 4 1997) [GCC 2.7.2.1 Objective-C snapshot 960906] Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam import _tkinter python: can't resolve symbol 'XpmCreateXpmImageFromData' python: can't resolve symbol '_IO_putc' python: can't resolve symbol 'XpmFreeXpmImage' python: can't resolve symbol 'XpmReadFileToXpmImage' Traceback (innermost last): File stdin, line 1, in ? ImportError: Unable to resolve symbol ** MICHAEL SCOTT ORR [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** 1405 NE 56th Street, Seattle, WA 98105 USA *Russki * ** Tel: +1 (206) 522-9627, fax: 328-6209 * Deutsch * ** * Esperanto * * (Insert silly quote here) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
HOWTO escape from the badmailfrom list?
Hello. there are problems with my private mail address. Whats wrong with it, how could I proceed? Thank you. -- Dr. Andreas Wehler; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luebecker Str. 16, 42109 Wuppertal; Tel./Fax.: (0202) 753664 From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:57:10 +0100 Mail-from: From POPmail Sat Dec 13 08:57:45 1997 Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON Received: from mailout02.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.150]) by mailin02.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id m0xgey6-002Q1RC; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:58:06 +0100 Received: from root by mailout02.btx.dtag.de with local id 0xgexC-00078m-00; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:57:10 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lines: 146 Xref: midi2 other:173 X-Gnus-Newsgroup: other:173 Sat Dec 13 08:58:32 1997 This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: debian-user@lists.debian.org: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO: debian-user@lists.debian.org: host debian.novare.net [205.229.104.5]: 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1) -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from (fwd09.btx.dtag.de) [194.25.2.169] by mailout02.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0xgevy-0006k8-00; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:55:54 +0100 Received: from midi2 (0202753664-0001(btxid)@[193.159.59.140]) by fwd09.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id m0xgevv-0003TRC; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:55:51 +0100 Received: by midi2 id m0xgewZ-0009ZFC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:56:31 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:56:31 +0100 (MET) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: HOWTO escape from the badmailfrom list? Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr. Andreas Wehler - Wuppertal) Hello. after trials to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got the following replies. What's wrong, what should I do? Thank you. Andreas. -- Dr. Andreas Wehler Tel./Fax.: (+49) 202 75 36 64 Luebecker Str. 16 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 42109 Wuppertal http://home.t-online.de/home/Dr.A.wehler/profil.html From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:53:36 +0100 Mail-from: From POPmail Fri Dec 12 23:27:19 1997 Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON Received: from mailout00.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.148]) by mailin01.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id m0xgRoM-00181LC; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:55:10 +0100 Received: from root by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with local id 0xgRmq-0006TZ-00; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:53:36 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lines: 154 Xref: midi2 other:165 X-Gnus-Newsgroup: other:165 Sat Dec 13 00:46:02 1997 This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host debian.novare.net [205.229.104.5]: 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1) -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from (fwd11.btx.dtag.de) [194.25.2.171] by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0xgRlS-00067W-00; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:52:10 +0100 Received: from midi2 (0202753664-0001(btxid)@[193.159.59.145]) by fwd11.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id m0xgRlN-0003cWC; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:52:05 +0100 Received: by midi2 id m0xgRhj-0009ZFC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:48:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:48:19 +0100 (MET) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why? rejected email, badmailfrom list (#5.7.1) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr. Andreas Wehler - Wuppertal) From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:08:30 +0100 Mail-from: From POPmail Fri Dec 12 10:39:31 1997 Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON Received: from mailout00.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.148]) by mailin00.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id m0xgBCy-0018JyC; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:11:28 +0100 Received: from root by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with local id 0xgBA6-0006wW-00; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:08:30 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lines: 107 Xref: midi2 other:159 X-Gnus-Newsgroup: other:159 Fri Dec 12 10:41:02 1997 This message was
sendmail, root, and the man
Hi, My isp is complaining about my sender: header lines in my emails: Please don't send email until you have your system set up properly. Your return address is still wrong and undeliverable: David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are not on mailhost1.cac.washington.edu. In exmh my From: looks perfect: From: David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, my isp authorities use Pine (it's their product), and in Pine: From: David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently Pine looks to the sender: line, exmh to the From: line to get the displayed From:. Both actually work, but mailhostX.cac is wrong. The wrong hostname is probably derived from my smtp server mailhost.u.washington.edu (expanded by canonization, I presume?). After some reading of docs, faqs, tutorials and other sendmail resources, and some experimentation, I got my hostname localhost.localdomain to masquerade as u.washington.edu by running sendmailconfig, and restarting sendmail after editing /etc/mail/sendmail.cf to read: # class E: names that should be exposed as from this host, even if we masquerade CE root [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This works with one big exception: mail to root must first go to the smtp server. My isp is unhappy with me about a uucp report which was generated when my root installed uucp which generated a report that made it to them, so I must have it so that there is NO possibility for mail destined for my root to go anywhere but on my box. I don't really want mail destined for my root going out to my smtp server, anyway. I don't know what I need to do. Does this sound reasonably feasible? Would somebody please give me a clue about what I need to do to get this to work? I haven't decided to stick with sendmail yet, so the Bat book (O'Reilly) will have to wait a little bit. David Stern -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Active v.s. Passive hubs
What is Active / Passive Hub? I thought all hub the same, now, I have to changed my mind. Lawrence Oz Dror wrote: Hi, I am going to rewire all the phone lines in my home using grade 5 UTP wires. I am also going to have a star configuration for phone and ethernet wires. I have a Linux server and 2 or 3 NT clients. Even though I have three or four computers. I will have 12 points in the network. One computer (laptop) can be used in different locations. The longest run of a single wire is less than 50 meters. Do I need Active of passive hub? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: ViewSonic 15G S3 video card...
smorrill wrote: I have a ViewSonic 15G monitor and an older JAX 8241 video card with an S3 805 chipset. I've got the boot magazine disk version of Debian installed on my 586 and so far everything's working great, except for I'm trying to get XFree86 up and running and am beating my brains out here trying to come up with the correct modeline combination for this monitor and card. I keep getting the squashed mode when X starts 'cause I'm obviously not getting the correct modeline set up. Does anybody out there have a similar combination they would be willing to share their modeline settings for? I'm very new at this. I think I've probably edited XF86Config at least 73 times by now, still not getting it right. Hi!I have a ViewSonic 6E Monitor, and my video card is an S3 with a 805 Chipset. I had the same problem, and edited XF86Config several times until I got the solution. You can have my XF86Config, try to start X with it, or simply have a look at it to see what's wrong with yours. -- --- Àlex Maneu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) MAN Soft Magazine http://www.maptel.es/pagpersonal/mansoft Going to the future, living the present --- # XF86Config # by Alex Maneu December 1997 # # Per a les targetes S3 amb chipset 805 # i funcionament a 16 bpp # # Works with S3 cards with a 805 chipset # at 16 bpp # See 'man XF86Config' for info on the format of this file Section Files RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi EndSection Section ServerFlags EndSection Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard XkbRulesxfree86 XkbModelpc101 XkbLayout es EndSection Section Pointer ProtocolMicrosoft Device /dev/mouse EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Primary Monitor VendorName Unknown ModelName Unknown HorizSync 31.5 VertRefresh 60 Modeline 640x48025.20 640 660 756 800 480 491 493 525 Modeline 320x240 0.00 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 doublescan EndSection Section Device Identifier Primary Card VendorName Unknown BoardName S3 86C805 (generic) Ramdac ch8391 Clocks 25.20 28.32 39.70 0.00 50.40 76.72 35.68 44.60 130.27 119.55 79.40 31.22 109.74 65.12 74.94 94.57 # Use Option nolinear if the server doesn't start up correctly # (this avoids the linear framebuffer probe). If that fails try # option nomemaccess. # # Refer to /usr/X11R6/lib/doc/README.S3, and the XF86_S3 man page. EndSection Section Screen Driver Accel Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor DefaultColorDepth 16 SubSection Display Depth8 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth15 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth16 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth24 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth32 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Driver Mono Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor SubSection Display Depth1 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Driver VGA2 Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor SubSection Display Depth1 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Driver VGA16 Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor SubSection Display Depth4 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Driver SVGA Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor SubSection Display Depth8 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth15 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth16 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth24 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth32 Modes640x480 320x240 EndSubSection EndSection
Image Sound
Hi to everybody. I still have some questions about Linux, I think they'll be easy for you to answer. -I want to put a picture as the background of X-Windows, or simply change the background color. Where is it specified? Which files must I edit? -XV: I've been looking for this program, but I don't have it. I've been searching it in DSELECT, but I couldn't find it. Where is XV? -Sound Card: My soundcard is a Logitech SoundMan Wave 100% compatible with Soundblaster. Which files must I edit to use it? (for example to listen CDs, etc). Must I have installed some special package? Thank you very much. --- lex Maneu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) MAN Soft Magazine http://www.maptel.es/pagpersonal/mansoft Going to the future, living the present ---
A question regarding hardware
Greetings. I've wanted to install some version of *nix for quite some time now, and I recently acquired enough hard disk space to do so. However, when attempting to install both FreeBSD 2.2.5 and Slackware Linux 3.4, I discovered that neither OS was able to detect my controller card. The card is a Promise Technologies Ultra33 ultra ide pci card. I'd like to give Debian a try, but don't want to download it unless I know for certain that it's going to work with the card. With this, I have two questions: (A) Will the current release of Debian, by default, detect the card? (B) If not, is there anything that can be done to get it to detect? Any options on this would be greatly appreciatedly, as right now I've only been able to get the card to work under Win95 and WinNT (evil! evil! evil!). Note: most OSs are able to detect the old, slow drive interfaces on the motherboard, but not this card. Lightning -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is Perl 5.004.04-3 Package Routine Broken?
Wintermute writes: New problem. When I attempt to install the Perl 5.004.04-3 file, it breaks at the post-installation phase. As such, other updates that require Perl will not configure themselves. I have even fetched the file manually and used dpkg (with most all of the debugging options) and still no luck. I can run the Perl post install script by hand with configure and it runs just fine, but for some reason dpkg and dselect both tell me that it can't configure it because the post install script returned error 123. Same problem here. After trying to install it with dpkg, I runned the postinst script manually with the 'configure' parameter. Then I edited the /var/lib/dpkg/status file, in the perl package section changed the line install ok not-configured to install ok installed and deleted the line which read configured version: previous_package_version_here (or something like that) This kludge fooled dpkg into thinking that perl was ok (and I think it really is ok, haven't had any problems) and I could move on to the other packages. My excuse for doing it is that I don't know deb package internals and didn't have the previous libc6 perl pack. anymore. Regards, -- Adriano -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Image Sound
On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 10:54:06AM +0100, @lex Maneu wrote: -I want to put a picture as the background of X-Windows, or simply change the background color. Where is it specified? Which files must I edit? I can only answer this question. :) You need to edit .xsession or .xinitrc file, use command like xsetroot, xpmroot, xloadimage, xsetbg or xv, etc. They will set after you login and before windows manager startup. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partitioning
On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 01:39:05AM +0100, Gertjan Klein wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip - BIOS and large HDs] Take your pick. What many people seem to be confused about is that many, if not most, decisions concerning this stuff are driven by market forces requiring backward compatibility. Let me state _again_ that the BIOS is nothing but a piece of software in a PROM - it can easily be altered should the market so request. The design of the PC is flexible enough here. I'm not sure that replacing a chip is entirely flexible, althought modern Flash BIOS overcome this (yes, I saw the P in PROM). As I understand it, (at least with DOS/windows/OS2), you can only see one primary partition _per disk_. This was also what various HOWTO's seemed to say. No, no, NO! How many times do I have to say this: I HAVE MULTIPLE PRIMARY DOS PARTITIONS, AND BOTH DOS AND WINDOWS '95 SEE ALL OF THEM! What does it take to convince you that I'm not lying?! Do I need to mail an output of DOS fdisk perhaps? Or would you then think I forged that? Taking a deep breath The only problem with multiple primary DOS partitions that both DOS and W95 have, is that their fdisk refuses to create more than one. For a workaround, and more details, see the docs of my boot manager (see sig). Once created, they are seen and accesible. I stand corrected, I thought maybe you had one primary parition on one disk and one on another - I never meant to imply you were lying. MS fdisk is badly broken - I've some very strange results from it. The fact that windows (95 and NT) cannot use partitions properly - they *require* that they are on the first primary partition on a disk - means that partitioning is _alot_ of hard work (trust me - I've spent a week reinstalling things and messing around). I doubt if you've spend as much time partitioning as I have developing my boot manager ;-) I have very little experience with NT, but I know for a fact that Windows '95 does _not_ require to be installed to the first primary partition of a harddisk - on my harddisk, it is installed on the fourth. The requirements are: - It must be installed on the first harddisk. This requirement goes for both DOS and W95; for DOS 6.22 and 7.0 (the DOS part of W95) there is a workaround if there are no primary DOS partitions on the first harddisk. - The active flag must be set to the booted partition. If W95 is booted from the fourth partition, but the active flag is set to the first, it will hang. Is it possible to boot 95 from a logical partition? On a seperate note, is it possible to *install* (from CD) 95 onto a logical HD. One thing that I'll mention, HPFS (OS/2) and NTFS (NT) both use the same ID for their paritions. If you try to install NT onto a disk where there is an HPFS partition before the one that you are going to install NT on, it gets confused (it's an NT ID, but I can't read it - aaarrgh)? I'm sure of this, but it seemed to be what happened on someone's machine at work (I didn't have this problem and did have OS/2 installed). One feature I look for in a design is easy modification in the future (which is normally always needed for one reason or another). The PC having come this far, I'd say it apparently was modifyable enough to give us Pentium PCs without losing the ability to run DOS. Your list of things you object to is not exhaustive, and some of it I agree with; I am not defending everything to do with PCs, I just hate to see misinformation - especially on a list otherwise so helpful and accurate. I can run a spectrum emulator on my PC, but that certainly wasn't designed to be easily modifiable. In a similar way, if the PC was better designed in the first place, they would be much faster now as the backwards compatibility would come at a much lower cost than we are currently paying. - allowing spaces in filename - *completely* *braindead* kilu:~$ Filename with spaces kilu:~$ ls Filename with spaces I assume you are now going to tell me that the Linux design is completely braindead too? Or perhaps different rules apply to operating systems you like than to operating systems you don't like? Oops - I knew this too! More anti-MS than anti-PC, but at least most people using unix don't actually use any strange characters in filenames; unlike 95 which has Program Files, the default short form of this is progra~1. Unfortunately MS has seen fit to hard-code progra~1 into their installation for other programs (excel and word IIRC) which b*s things up if you've changed the registry to give better short names like programf. Backwards-compatibility is a pet hate of mine. If we all used DEC alphas, we would have far faster machines capable of running legacy applications faster than modern PCs (e.g. Alphas can emulate Pentiums *very quickly*). Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org
Re: clueless people on debian-user
Why do you want to do that? On 13 Dec 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: I think having our lists on news benefits us, and we can tolerate the spam and the mis-directed mail. What do you think? I think that we need to make the newsgroups read-only. Any submissions to the list should be required to come via e-mail. Aren't the problems with having the newsgroups that cluless people send stupid messages and spam to the lists? So if we just allow people to *read* the lists on newsgroups, but require them to send submissions to the e-mail address, then we've got the best of both worlds. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: A question regarding hardware
(A) Will the current release of Debian, by default, detect the card? I don't think so. Maybe. (B) If not, is there anything that can be done to get it to detect? Yes. There is a compile-time kernel option to switch on support for Promise IDE interface cards. You could turn this on and recompile. Possibly, the default kernel includes this, but I'm not certain of that. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
lilo and dosemu
It is my understanding that you cannot use dosemu to access partitions which use the lilo boot system. This seems to indicate that the boot partition, normally dev/hda1, cannot be DOS on a dual boot system if you intend to use dosemu from linux. Two solutions are suggested by this. One repartion the harddrive so that /dev/hda1 is Linux and not DOS. Two change the booting processs, perhaps by some adjustment to the MBR, so that the machine does not boot from /dev/hda1 but from some other non DOS partition Since I would prefer not to reinstall everything on both linux and dos the second solution is preferable. Is it possible? How do I do it? Or am I misunderstanding something? Thanks for any help Tom -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Image Sound
For sound support you will have to recompile your kernel with Sound Blaster support. You will also need cdtools or xmcd to listen to audio CDs. There is a sound HOWTO: http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO.html If you are new to linux, and compiling kernels, be forwarned... everything is not likely to work perfect the first time around, and also read the READMEs and HOWTOs. They will save you a lot of time and frustration. Thanks, Dennis -- dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED], Systems/Network | work: 353.4844 Division of Engineering Computing Services | page: 222.5875 On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Àlex Maneu wrote: Hi to everybody. I still have some questions about Linux, I think they'll be easy for you to answer. -I want to put a picture as the background of X-Windows, or simply change the background color. Where is it specified? Which files must I edit? -XV: I've been looking for this program, but I don't have it. I've been searching it in DSELECT, but I couldn't find it. Where is XV? -Sound Card: My soundcard is a Logitech SoundMan Wave 100% compatible with Soundblaster. Which files must I edit to use it? (for example to listen CDs, etc). Must I have installed some special package? Thank you very much. --- Àlex Maneu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) MAN Soft Magazine http://www.maptel.es/pagpersonal/mansoft Going to the future, living the present --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
kernel panic with Supermount!
Is anybody using Supermount v6 for the 2.0.32 kernel? I recently added the supermount patches to my 2.0.32 kernel and when I do a system shutdown I get an occasional kernel panic when the /etc/init.d/halt script is at the 'umount -a' line. The system hangs at that point and I have to hit the reset button. When the system comes back up it complains of that the filesystem wasn't cleanly unmounted. When it panic's I can still switch to other VC's but Ctrl-Alt-Del won't work. This is the error that is displayed on the console. kernel panic: SUPERMOUNT panic (device 0/2): umount_subfs: subfs root\ i_count = 788, should be 1 I really like the supermount patches but I can't have my filesystem getting trashed on shutdown. (This is a dual boot machine that frequently get rebooted between OS's) Thanks for any help, Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: clueless people on debian-user
Ben Pfaff wrote: Aren't the problems with having the newsgroups that cluless people send stupid messages and spam to the lists? So if we just allow people to *read* the lists on newsgroups, but require them to send submissions to the e-mail address, then we've got the best of both worlds. I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but I think you want the newsgroups to be moderated? (Presumably the clueless can still post direct to the mailing list.) Someone would have to filter the clueless postings out before sending the rest on to the mailing list. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Unsolicited email advertisements are not welcome; any person sending such will be invoiced for telephone time used in downloading together with a £25 administration charge. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Image Sound
lex Maneu wrote: -I want to put a picture as the background of X-Windows, or simply change the background color. Where is it specified? Which files must I edit? Look at `man xsetroot'. xv also has the capability, opnce you have installed it. -XV: I've been looking for this program, but I don't have it. I've been searching it in DSELECT, but I couldn't find it. Where is XV? non-free/graphics -Sound Card: My soundcard is a Logitech SoundMan Wave 100% compatible with Soundblaster. Which files must I edit to use it? (for example to listen CDs, etc). Must I have installed some special package? rebuild your kernel to incorporate sound support. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Unsolicited email advertisements are not welcome; any person sending such will be invoiced for telephone time used in downloading together with a £25 administration charge. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dtterm
George Bonser wrote: When will Debian learn about dtterms? I am now using a SPARC-IPC running Solaris and CDE as my desktop. I use it to connect to four different Debian systems. It is getting to be a pain to keep setting my $TERM to xterm (I do not know if this is even correct ... it seems to work). I don't know what dtterm is, but from context it sounds like a terminfo or termcap setting. If that is correct, use infocmp to dump it on the SPARC-IPC, transfer the result to the Linux machine; then use tic to compile it into Linux's terminfo database. Use similar methods to transfer the termcap settings. If you want it to go into future Debian releases, send the results to the maintainer of the appropriate package; no doubt he will be grateful. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Unsolicited email advertisements are not welcome; any person sending such will be invoiced for telephone time used in downloading together with a £25 administration charge. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
setting up a cable-modem
Has anyone successfully setup a PnP Cable-Modem in Linux? I'm guessing I will have to use isapnptools to set it up. If you have been successfull at this, please help. Thanks for your time. -- ` Aaron Walker Work: Site: http://www.iconmedia.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal: Site: http://www.iconmedia.com/aaron Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `` -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lilo and dosemu
tmalloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: t It is my understanding that you cannot use dosemu to access t partitions which use the lilo boot system. Why not? The only rule I'm aware of is that you can't use DOSEMU directly on a mounted filesystem -- though IIRC you can use lredir to gain access to that, too. t This seems to indicate that the boot partition, normally dev/hda1, There's no normal boot partition; it's whatever partition has its active flag set. On my system, this is /dev/hda2. t cannot be DOS on a dual boot system if you intend to use dosemu t from linux. Two solutions are suggested by this. One repartion the t harddrive so that /dev/hda1 is Linux and not DOS. Two change the t booting processs, perhaps by some adjustment to the MBR, so that t the machine does not boot from /dev/hda1 but from some other non t DOS partition You can install LILO on the MBR of /dev/hda, which would get around this. Or you can install LILO on your Linux partition, which works as well. AFAIK you can't install LILO on a DOS partition at all and still expect it to work. -- _ / \ The cat's been in the box for over | David Maze | 20 years. Nobody's feeding it. The | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |cat is dead. | http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Grant, on Schroedinger's Cat \_/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Disk partioning error any idea what this means?
hi, does anyone out there on this list know what this is telling me? allan Drive C: has 1 Error 4,096 Bytes Per Clusters 2,504 (9Mb) Available Clusters 0 (0Mb) Bad Clusters 303 (1Mb) Clusters in 222 Directories 5,529 ( 21Mb) Clusters in 154 Hidden Files 56,906 ( 222Mb) Clusters in 5839 User Files 1 Partition Table Errors Critical Error 66 on Drive 1: Invalid Partition Table Format at sector %ld 0 File Allocation Table Errors 0 Boot Sector Errors 0 Extended Boot Sector Errors 0 Compression Structure Errors 0 Directory Errors 0 File Errors
Stupid mirror question.
Sorry for asking stupid questions on the list but I was unable/too lazy to figure this out: I mirror debian site at school (lets call it site A). I also mirror it at home(site B). Sometimes I point my home mirror to school site(A), sometimes to official mirrors(O). Very often then the mirror at home triesto re-get the current files because the timestamps are somehow screwed. All mirrors I run with get_newer=true. So why the timestamps on site A and site(s) O do not agree even though site A is a mirror of site O. = === = mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |__ Alexander Stavitsky http://physlab.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~stalex -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Yamaha sound card
Does anyone have experience in configuring yamaha OPL3-SA3 card? It is 3D sound, 16bit full duplex pnp card. After compiling a new kernel and reboot, I did not see any message about sound module in startup. Use 'cat /dev/sndstat', it shows like this cat: /dev/sndstat: Operation not supported by device What need I do to let this card work? I saw in Sound HowTo that Yamaha is not supported, so I can not use it under linux? Thanks for your advice. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
no fsck after new install of hamm
I got irritated enough at the assorted problems from my dirty, inherited installation to wipe the disk and do a clean install. Installing hamm with X and a few more packages required about 10 (at least) passess through install/configure in deselect, and even so, i had to manually install perl with dpkg. anyway, I now get a boot message that fsck is not found. and sure enough, /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin don't have an fsck or e2fsck. I've had to edit /etc/init.d/chkfs and chkroot to remove the fsck's to get booted. Now how do I fix this? Oh, and lilo didn't install properly, either. it wanted to use /dev/hda3 rather than /dev/hda as the root device, and when booting it came up as LIL- and hung. editing /etc/liloconfig solved it, though. rick --- End of Forwarded Message -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DCE for Linux?
Hi, I am currently working on the port of DCE 1.2.2 to Linux, based on the work of Jim Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is not yet a working cncern. We are working with The open Group (the new name for OSF now they have merged with X/Open), and as far as I am aware [and I should be aware of this, this is my bread and butter] this is the only such effort extant. No one, at the moment, offers a Linux product. (OSF should know; since it has to be licenced from them ;-) manoj, who works with the open group on a day to day basis email me for details. -- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo its use. Galileo Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Pager utility or script?
Hi, I am looking for a way to allow my computer to dial a pager and send the number ... I was wondering if anyone had a way to do this via a shell script or maybe there is a pager program ?... Debian Package? -Kevin, kc5vxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Col, 3:23 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[Q] Printing..
Dear Linuxoids, I have several questions on printing - If I want to install magicfilter and it needs dvips does it mean I have to install tetex (tetex-bin, tetex-base, tetex-extra ...)? - Could someone tell me how to set up a remote printer. I can print text files, but how to make it use a filter? I read printing and printing usage howtos, but it is not enough for me ... - I also noticed that lprm can be executed by root only. Is it fixable? Thanks a lot, ZORO -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yamaha sound card
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, cheng tang wrote: Does anyone have experience in configuring yamaha OPL3-SA3 card? It is 3D sound, 16bit full duplex pnp card. After compiling a new kernel and reboot, I did not see any message about sound module in startup. Use 'cat /dev/sndstat', it shows like this cat: /dev/sndstat: Operation not supported by device What need I do to let this card work? I saw in Sound HowTo that Yamaha is not supported, so I can not use it under linux? Thanks for your advice. Look at /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/Readme.cards. It gives some methods to access PnP sound cards. You should compile your kernel with Generic OPL2/OPL3 FM synthesizer support. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yamaha sound card
The 2.1.72 and more recent kernels support your card explicitly. It's an experimental kernel, so you get to build it on your own and suffer its bugs. You can get it from ftp.kernel.org . Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] Printing..
Dear Linuxoids, Hmm... - If I want to install magicfilter and it needs dvips does it mean I have to install tetex (tetex-bin, tetex-base, tetex-extra ...)? You may install no tetex at all but then you won't be able to print .dvi files. To have this ability, install tetex-base and tetex-bin. - I also noticed that lprm can be executed by root only. Is it fixable? Use lpr from bo-updates. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: A question regarding hardware
To:Lightning Firestormer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A question regarding hardware Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13 Dec 1997 10:20:01 -0500 (B) If not, is there anything that can be done to get it to detect? Yes. There is a compile-time kernel option to switch on support for Promise IDE interface cards. You could turn this on and recompile. Possibly, the default kernel includes this, but I'm not certain of that. The only problem that I could see with this would be that I'd sort of need to get things INSTALLED first in order to get the compiler installed and get the option turned on. Thing is, my main hard drive is connected to said controller, making installation rather.interesting. Only other drive on the system is the Jaz, which is slow as all hell. I guess I _could_ always move the hard drive onto the interface on the motherboard, temporarily (I don't normally use it because of its not supporting DMA/33), and then move it back onto the Promise card after the kernel is recompiled. It's not the cleanest way to get things working, but I guess it WOULD work. Lightning -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: AMD K6
On Dec 12, A. M. Varon wrote Hi, I have heard of some problems with AMD K6 Anyone to comment? The reason is because I have a K6 200 right beside me. :) There are problems with certain runs of the K6 and linux with more than 32 MB RAM. It's documented on their web page, along with how to return your defective chip for a good one. Since you have to send it to them first, I just switched the K6 we had into a winders95 box, and it runs happily. Tim -- Tim Sailer (at home) Coastal Internet, Inc. Network and Systems Operations PO Box 671 http://www.buoy.comRidge, NY 11961 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED](516) 476-3031 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
