Re: crt1.c

1998-03-04 Thread Bill Leach
This is just a bit of guessing here.  It sounds like your messages have
to do with trying to compile crt1.o.  However, there are lots of other
possibilties.  It could be that the makefile uses command/syntax not
recognized by GNUmake

Do you know what the function of crt1.o is?  It is possible that this
file will not compile under Linux if it is specific to Irix (at least
not without some 'porting' effort).


Bruce Dobrin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to compile a tool from Irix,  What I'm currently getting is a 
 syntax type error in something called crt1.o  checked the source and the 
 original stable release and it is distributed as crt1.o.  Does anyone know 
 what this is and where I can get the uncompiled code?
 
 Thanks
 
 Bruce Dobrin
 Multi Media Dept.
 Sony Pictures Imageworks
 310-840-8412

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Re: Moved harddisk

1998-03-04 Thread Bill Leach
Yes, the first part of what you have done should be correct for a floppy
boot system.  The entries in /etc/fstab do HAVE to reference the correct
device/partitions.

If you are using lilo on the boot floppy then that has to be corrected
for the new location also.


Hunter H Marshall wrote:
 
 I have a 1.2.8 system that I boot from floppy. I
 moved the harddrive from (effectively) /dev/hda to
 /dev/hdb. I then used rdev to change the boot
 device and the swap device to their hdb
 counterparts. Should that have been sufficient?
 
 Is there a primary/secondary IDE issue (if I'm
 saying that right)? What about the /etc/fstab
 which reference /dev/hda?
 
 Thanks
 
 hunter

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Can't get KDE Beta 3 to run on Debian.

1998-03-04 Thread Sérgio Lopes
Hi there!

First i want to say that i'm a newbie in linux, and a newbie in this
mailing list. :)

My problem is that i can't get KDE (beta 3) to run on my Debian 1.3,
when i execute ./startkde it says cannot connect to the X Server,
can anyone help me with this? I have all the environmental variables
set right, i also have tried AfterStep and it says can't get display
:-/

Best Regards,
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MCSD (don't flame me for this. :))


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Re: Out of PTTY's

1998-03-04 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Thanks, I'll look into that

Best regards

Jonathan

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

 On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, C.J.LAWSON wrote:
 
  ... Its one problem after another ... When I try to run the script
  program I get a message saying out of PTTY's and the program aborts.
  Does anyone have a clue as to what on earth brings this about ..
 
 You may be using all your available pseudo-tty devices.  Check to see
 how many /dev/ptyp[??] you have.  You can create additional devices
 using the MAKEDEV script in that same directory.
 
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Re: afterstep

1998-03-04 Thread David Stern
On Tue, 03 Mar 1998 14:16:41 PST, Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella wrote:
 
 I upgraded afterstep to 1.4, but I had to downgrade it back to 1.0,
 cuz the new one did not get any of my old confs, and looked horrible!

 Did I do anything wrong?

You need to follow the instructions in:
  /usr/doc/afterstep/README.gz

I didn't try it, but there's a -f param if you want to use your crufty 
old .steprc , not that you would -- the new file layout is exceptional. 
 You can skip that part about the security hole if you give each user 
their own copy of the GNUstep/library/afterstep (don't cp startmenu to 
/usr/lib/afterstep).

If sloppy focus is new and that bothers you, you can change that in:
   ~/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/desktop/feels/feel.Debian
(by uncommenting  # ClickToFocus, commenting SloppyFocus)

You may also want to modify:   (assuming 16bpp, adjust accordingly)
  ~/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/base.16bpp (for icon locations),
  ~GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/autoexec.16bpp  (for startup apps), and
  ~/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/wharf  (for .. you guessed it)

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Re: making room

1998-03-04 Thread Jim
Is there a way to check how much space a package is using? I looked
for an option for the dpkg -l, so that the size of each package
would be shown, but found nothing.

I would _love_ an option like this!! In fact, dselect and/or deity should
give me a breakdown of the space that would be used by partition, of each
individual package and by any given group of packages.

-Jim


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Re: Have a question about Debian..

1998-03-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I just downloaded all of the chunks that make up the Debian Binary CD.

   I also downloaded the MD5SUM.EXE and MD5SUMS files.  However, when I use
   MD5SUM to test the chunks, EVERY single one fails!  What are the chances
   that every chunk is bad??  Is it possible I have downloaded an old
   version of the MD5SUMS file?

Did you download the chunks via ftp in ascii mode?  That would
certainly screw up every chunk.


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Re: Slackware-----Debian

1998-03-04 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
 So, when removing Slackware it is not necessary to format the drive?  What
 will happen to slackware?  Will it just be replaced by Debian?  Or will it
 just install side-by-side to Slackware.

 What you can do is this:

  1) Move every binary you think you should need from /usr/bin,/bin to
/usr/local/bin (and libs, etc.). Then remove everything in usr (outside of
/usr/local, of course).
 2) Start the install process. When you have the target partition mounted,
ask for a shell and remove /etc, /lib, /bin, /sbin, /var and /boot.
 3) Install Debian.


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Non Debian Specific Network Security question

1998-03-04 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
Sorry that this is not debian specific, but on the off chance that someone
does read this, thanx!

I am about to put work onto the internet to run a web server, and for
users to browse the web and exchange email.

I have registered a domain, for example xyz.com
The link will be a dedicated dialup, until I can justify isdn. My isp will
provide me with a static ip. The box on my end of this link will be a
Debian machine.  The web server will run on this box.  I will use ip
firewalling and masquerading on this machine also. My internal network is
a class A, per rfc1918. I will call this machine www.xyz.com  This machine
is dual homed with the ip from my isp, and 10.0.3.254

I dont want users to see a machine one the internal network, such as
applications.xyz.com(10.0.4.1) thru nslookup et al.

My question is: should I run an internal domain server for a made up
domain, such as xyznet, ie the applications machine will really be
applications.xyznet(10.0.4.1)

I understand that 10.0.4.1 will not be reachable from the internet, but I
do not want anyone knowing about it's existance.

If i run a made up domain internally, www.xyz.com will have to relay mail
to services.xyznet. Also, I assume that ms outlook(i know, i know) will
have to be configured to use xyz.com as the senders address.

Does this make sense?

Thanks in advance!
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Zero Length Files on the CD...

1998-03-04 Thread P. D. Tisdale
I have another problem.. I have downloaded and tested all of the chunks
that make up the Debian Binary CD.  Also have put them together as
stated in the instructions  (yes I connected them in order).  Lastly, I
burned the CD.  However, I'm not sure if this problem is normal for
these CDs, but there are quite a few ZERO LENGTH FILES on the CD.  Is
this normal or did I do something wrong??  I used EZCD Pro for Windows
3.1, and a 650Mb CD.  (My CD Burner is a Creative Labs 4210).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: LI instead of LILO:

1998-03-04 Thread Adam Shand

 I just installed a new Debian system. I had to copy the base1 disk X times
 on Y disks to get Debian to install. But now I get a LI instead of the
 expected LILO:
 What can I do without having to do a complete reinstall?

for me the only thing that has ever caused this (there are almost
certainly other reasons though) is when i've been playing with bios and
what type of hard drive it thinks it is.

you'll have to excuse me i'm having a momentary brain fart and can't think
of the words i want but the bit i mean is at the far right of the bios
display and the options are normal, large and LBA (i think thats
correct anyway).

your harddrive was possibly formatted with one option and bios is trying
another.  just reboot and change it until it works (remember what it was
originally set to in case it is something else!!!)

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Re: Have a question about Debian..

1998-03-04 Thread Bob Hilliard
 One possibililty is that the files were downloaded as ASCII
files, not binary.  Most ftp servers display a message similar to
Opening BINARY mode data connection for file_name when they start
downloading a file.  Ftp servers on UNIX machines usually default to
binary, but some ftp servers or clients will default to ASCII.  At the
ftp prompt enter binary to make sure you get a binary download.

 Did you download using DOS or Linux?

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 I just downloaded all of the chunks that make up the Debian Binary CD.
 
 I also downloaded the MD5SUM.EXE and MD5SUMS files.  However, when I use
 MD5SUM to test the chunks, EVERY single one fails!  What are the chances
 that every chunk is bad??  Is it possible I have downloaded an old
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Ensoniq sound problems

1998-03-04 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

Has anyone ever been able to configure their Ensoniq Soundscape (yes,
it is fairly old) card to work on Linux?  I can't seem to get anything out
of my sound card.

Basically I've been trying to use isapnp to initialize my card, otherwise
I would have to initialize it from DOS (ugh).  Here is my /etc/isapnp.conf
file:

(ISOLATE)
(IDENTIFY *)
(CONFIGURE ENS3081/ (LD 0 (IO 0 (BASE 0x330)) (INT 0 (IRQ 9 (MODE
+E))) (ACT Y)))

I removed my cards serial number from the above for this e-mail.  In
addition, I compiled the Ensoniq Soundscape module with the same settings.
Normally I get some sort of clicking from my spreakers when my sound
card is initialized from DOS but I get no such response when initializing
in Linux.  Do I need MPU401, too?

Could someone please explain to me what I may be doing wrong?  I'm totally
new at isapnp, Linux sound and initrd stuff.

-
Other Problems I noticed
-
I installed the Debian xmcd and xmix packages but I initially couldn't run
them because the CD and mixer devices had 660 permissions.  After I
changed the permissions to 666, I could run them.  Is this a bug in hamm?

-Ossama
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Re: making room

1998-03-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 05:15:18PM -0800, Jim wrote:
 Is there a way to check how much space a package is using? I looked
 for an option for the dpkg -l, so that the size of each package
 would be shown, but found nothing.
 
 I would _love_ an option like this!! In fact, dselect and/or deity should
 give me a breakdown of the space that would be used by partition, of each
 individual package and by any given group of packages.

Please bring this up on debian-policy; it was only just decided
to remove the very information from packages that can get you this
information easily.


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Re: Debian install source (Was Re: Yikes, sorry.)

1998-03-04 Thread Adam Klein
On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 07:05:34PM +0100, Lorens Kockum wrote:
 As a corollary, where do you find the source of the programs 
 executed during the install of debian?  I ask because I wanted
 to check if the install points out the NIS problem when it asks
 whether to use shadow passwords.

IIRC, they're in the boot-floppies package.

Adam Klein


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Debian-|-Zip

1998-03-04 Thread Holden Caulfield
Does debian/LINUX support zip drives?  If so is it possible to install LINUX
from a zip drive to a laptop?

Holden C


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Re: Debian-|-Zip

1998-03-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Does debian/LINUX support zip drives?

Yes, all varieties.

   If so is it possible to install LINUX
   from a zip drive to a laptop?

Yes.  Make at least a boot floppy (you can put the base disks on the
ZIP disk, I think) and plug in and turn on the ZIP drive before
booting.  If all goes well it should take no special precautions.


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Re: Ensoniq sound problems

1998-03-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I installed the Debian xmcd and xmix packages but I initially couldn't run
   them because the CD and mixer devices had 660 permissions.  After I
   changed the permissions to 666, I could run them.  Is this a bug in hamm?

Probably not.  You might not want everyone who has access to your
computer to be using these devices.  A better solution than chmoding
to 666 is adding the appropriate users to the group that owns the
devices.  For IDE CD devices, this might include changing the group
that owns the device.


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Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Scott Walker
Ok, this is a BIG nasty weird problem.
I'm runnig Debian With default Kernel 2.0.29
I grabbed Kernel 2.0.33 from ftp.kernel.org
and did the following steps:
tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
cd linux
make mrproper
make menuconfig
make dep
make clean
make zlilo
make modules
make modules_install
reboot

Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
it.. and it bombed. so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.


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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Chuck Peters

Install make-kpkg.
After make menuconfig
make-kpkg --revision version name kernel_image
Install the new kernel with dpkg.

Chuck 

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Scott Walker wrote:

 Ok, this is a BIG nasty weird problem.
 I'm runnig Debian With default Kernel 2.0.29
 I grabbed Kernel 2.0.33 from ftp.kernel.org
 and did the following steps:
 tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
 cd linux
 make mrproper
 make menuconfig
 make dep
 make clean
 make zlilo
 make modules
 make modules_install
 reboot
 
 Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
 have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
 2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
 so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
 and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
 'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
 a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
 it.. and it bombed. so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
 ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
 redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.
 
 
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Re: Debian-|-Zip

1998-03-04 Thread aqy6633
Does debian/LINUX support zip drives?
 
 Yes, all varieties.

Well, Zip Plus plugged into parallel port was not supported last time I
checked...

Alex Y.

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Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-04 Thread David S. Jackson
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 However, I don't have latex (nor latex2e). I have tetex instead. I thought 
 tetex is a latex substition, at least when looking at basics functionality. 
 Indeed the sgml-tools package did not comment on this, even though latex is 
 one of its sugestions. And in any case,

snip

 I had other difficulties with sgml2latex, for example with the -p 
 (postscript) 
 option.
 Eventualy, I succeded made sgml2latext convert the sgml file into dvi. Which 
 I 
 used with dvips to create the desired postscript file.

If memory serves, there are about 7 or 8 packages that comprise the TeTeX
distrib.  You might confirm that all of these installed correctly.  As
someone else mentioned, TeTeX is simply a LaTeX distribution.  You might
look into AuCTeX, another distribution; it looks to be quite full-featured
from my short time using it. 

I'm thinking your problem stems from some dependency on a resource that
either was not installed or did not install correctly and needs to be
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Re: Xircom CE10-BC PCMCIA Ethernetadapter

1998-03-04 Thread Rene Bagia
Thank you verry mutch for this Information, i replace my Xircom Card
with a 3c589D Card from 3COM.
Now i have the Cardservice running, but i dont know how to setup the
Carddriver for the 3com card.
The Cardsevice say unknown Card in Slot 0 or 1.
Where can i find Information how to setup the next step to use my 3com Card?

Best Reguards, Rene

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Betreff: Re: Xircom CE10-BC PCMCIA Ethernetadapter


In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Rene Bagia wrote:

 Hallo,
 i am a new Debian Linux user, so i have a little problem
 to install my pcmcia card service correctly, so i can
 use my XIRCOM CE10 Pcmcia Ethernet Adapter.
 I try to install with dselect the pcmcia card service and the
 pcmcia modules for the 2.0.29 Kernel but i cant use it.
 I am verry happy for every help.

Your best bet is to send the XIRCOM card back to the manufacturer,
with a polite notice that, due to the non-discolsure-agrement they
force everyone who obtains technical information on their ethernet
cards to sign, there is no Linux driver available for XIRCOM cards,
and you are thus unable to use it.

Or, in other words: XIRCOM forces people to sign NDA's. Thus a driver
will never be released in source code form, as that whould be disclosing
the information. As linux is GPL, any part of linux essentially also must
have source code available. This is why you cannot use XIRCOM cards.

I believe there are binary-only modules available, but I advice you not
to use those --  you will probably not be able to use them with
newer versions of the linux kernel, and nobody can fix bugs in them.

So, really the best thing to do is to replace the XIRCOM card.


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Description of Perl Data Language

1998-03-04 Thread G John Lapeyre

I just uploaded a debian package of this to master.
The next revision will have a free license.  (Soon)
The docs and online help , etc . are much improved.


A beta version 1.9900 of PDL is now available on CPAN (+). 

PDL is a freely-available number-crunching extension for perl, which
allows fast and memory-efficient manipulation of large numerical
datasets.  You can write normal perl syntax ($c = $a + $b) to
manipulate vectors or matrices or N-dimensional data. Sample
applications (in which PDL has already been used) include image
processing, two and three dimensional plotting, pipeline data
reduction, quick-look data visualisation, neural networks, machine
learning, medical visualization and quantum-mechanical simulations.
While these have historically been the domain of special purpose
matrix-oriented languages such as IDL(R/Tm)* and MatLab(R/Tm)*, PDL
allows Perl to be used in just such a manner. PDL has a very
open-architecture and is easy to interface to new subroutine and
graphics libraries.

One of the main advantages of PDL over similar packages is the
availability of the enormous, and heavily used, perl software base.
Available to PDL users are powerful string and file handling, well
developed interfaces to C, Fortran, and Java, to GUI toolkits such as
tk and gtk, to databases, ftp, the web, etc.  The user will find that
these features offer indispensable support to the number crunching
routines.

See http://www.aao.gov.au/local/www/kgb/perldl/ for more info
and links.

New features after 1.11 are countless but here is an overview:
 - a simple but powerful interface to 3-dimensional OpenGL
   visualization routines with animation (PDL::Graphics::TriD),
   also supports VRML to some degree.

 - assigning to slices of piddles / indexed piddles (e.g.
   after
$a = zeroes 100,100; 
$b = $a-diagonal(0,1); # diagonal between dims 0 and 1 
$b .= 1; # PDL special assignment operator 
   $a contains a unit matrix). Also to piddles indexed
   by other piddles.

 - efficient manipulation of multidimensional data.

 - preprocessor for interfacing external C routines with
   little work for multiple datatypes and writing new fast
   routines while avoiding loop index bugs.

 - new IO formats

 - many new routines for data processing

 - online help in the perldl shell

 - interactive matrix browser for curses
   (PDL::IO::Browser)

 - quick random access to data by mmapping it from the disk
   (PDL::IO::FastRaw::mapfraw)

 - interface to Karma applications toolkit for alternative 3d
   visualisation (PDL::Graphics::Karma)

People interested in doing numeric processing are encouraged to pick
this software up and give it a test run.

Because this is beta-stage software, the documentation, although quite
extensive, may not always be the most informative possible to help
beginners get going in PDL. We will be glad to answer your questions
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=== From introduction to PDL:

Perl is an extremely good and versatile scripting language, well suited
to beginners and allows rapid prototyping. However until recently it
did not support data structures which allowed it to do fast number
crunching.

However with the development of Perl v5, Perl acquired 'Objects'. To
put it simply users can define their own special data types, and write
custom routines to manipulate them either in low level languages (C and
Fortran) or in Perl itself.

This has been fully exploited by the PerlDL developers. The 'PDL'
module is a complete Object-Oriented extension to Perl (although you
don't have to know what an object is to use it) which allows large
N-dimensional data sets, such as large images, spectra, time series,
etc to be stored  Befficiently and manipulated Ben masse.  For
example  with the PDL module we can write the perl code C$a=$b+$c,
where $b and $c are large datasets (e.g. 2048x2048 images), and get the
result in only a fraction of a second.

PDL variables (or 'piddles' as they have come to be known) support a
wide range of fundamental data types - arrays can be bytes, short
integers (signed or unsigned), long integers, floats or double
precision floats. And because of the Object-Oriented nature of PDL new
customised datatypes can be derived from them.

As well as the PDL modules, that can be used by normal perl programs,
PerlDL comes with a command line perl shell, called 'perldl', which
supports command line editing. In combination with the various PDL
graphics modules this allows data to be easily played with and
visualised.

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Re: Kernel Customization.

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
shaul == shaul  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

shaul You are right. /usr/dockernel-package/Flavours.gz does not
shaul exists in a Bo version of kernel-package. I think it should
shaul be.

Unfortunately, I thought of the Flavours stuff after Bo was
 released. And since kernel-package has moved on to depend on a
 version of dpkg not available in Bo, you can't just put it there (the
 Bo dpkg has bugs that make it hard some times to package kernels). 


shaul And another thing: I think that the kernel-package and the
shaul kernel-source documantaion had to tell me what you have told
shaul me. They are quite ambigious, if not unaccurate.

Pardone me. I gladly accept patches. If you point out the
 ambiguities, I shall see what I can do. Also, the new versions of
 kernel-package should be better, and I apologize for not doing all
 this work 6 months earlier.

manoj

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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

There is not enough information to make a judgement. Please
 provide the following:
% ls -asCF /lib/modules
% ls -als /
% ls -asCF /boot

BTW, on Debian, kernel-package offers a simple, convenient way
 of upgrading and maintianing severl different versions of the kernel
 on your machine concurrently. (/usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz
 should be helpful). 

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wu-ftpd and anonymous ftp

1998-03-04 Thread Jason Ish
I'm running hamm and have just installed the wu-ftpd server for the purpose
of an anonymous ftp account.  I thought I had everything working, or so it
appeared to work from any command line ftp client (linux/win95), but when a
friend tried to get to it using wsftp, no directory listing was given to
him.

Whats the cause of this and how do I fix it please.  (I did read all the
docs).

Thanks
jason



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Re: wu-ftpd and anonymous ftp

1998-03-04 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Jason Ish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm running hamm and have just installed the wu-ftpd server for the purpose
 of an anonymous ftp account.  I thought I had everything working, or so it
 appeared to work from any command line ftp client (linux/win95), but when a
 friend tried to get to it using wsftp, no directory listing was given to
 him.

There are some problems with the current wu-ftpd package. I'd try
the proftpd package instead, which is much easier to set up and
probably more secure.

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Re: How to remove Boot block

1998-03-04 Thread Carey Evans
Pascal MIQUET [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've install Linux with LiLO as super boot block.
 
 I'd like to change it and make only LiLO for my LiNUX partition.
 
 How can I remove this kind of information on ms SCSI PS/2 boot disk !

Look in /boot.  There should be a file like boot.0800 - the number
depends on the device.

Type lilo -u /dev/sda to copy the saved boot sector back.  Edit
lilo.conf appropriately and rerun lilo with the new setup.  You might
need to do something like activate /dev/sda 1 to make the right
partition boot.

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Re: crt1.c

1998-03-04 Thread C.J.LAWSON
If I remember clearly, the file you allude to crt1.o must necessarily
exist for gcc to function properly. I once did a find .. '*.o' -exec rm
\{} \; ... to clean my system and found myself in hot water when I tried
to exec gcc. I was pretty new to Linux then and had to go a-begging the
chap upstairs, who I wasn't too keen on and gave me loads of lip before he
let me find and copy the files off his system. By some stroke of luck it
worked ... Tell me, have you been cleaning your system out??

Regards

Jonathan

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Bill Leach wrote:

 This is just a bit of guessing here.  It sounds like your messages have
 to do with trying to compile crt1.o.  However, there are lots of other
 possibilties.  It could be that the makefile uses command/syntax not
 recognized by GNUmake
 
 Do you know what the function of crt1.o is?  It is possible that this
 file will not compile under Linux if it is specific to Irix (at least
 not without some 'porting' effort).
 
 
 Bruce Dobrin wrote:
  
  Hi all,
  
  I'm trying to compile a tool from Irix,  What I'm currently getting is a 
  syntax type error in something called crt1.o  checked the source and the 
  original stable release and it is distributed as crt1.o.  Does anyone know 
  what this is and where I can get the uncompiled code?
  
  Thanks
  
  Bruce Dobrin
  Multi Media Dept.
  Sony Pictures Imageworks
  310-840-8412
 
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Re: LI instead of LILO:

1998-03-04 Thread C.J.LAWSON
I have had this problem before and I almost died of fustration before I
fixed ... as with most things the solution was pretty simple. For a start
try using a minimal lilo and requesting the bios to auto detect the hdd at
boot up. If this fails then do the same thing (auto detect) but specify 
large, LBA and then normal, in turn ... Large did the trick for me if I
can remember correctly

Let us know how you got on 

Regards

Jonathan

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Adam Shand wrote:

 
  I just installed a new Debian system. I had to copy the base1 disk X times
  on Y disks to get Debian to install. But now I get a LI instead of the
  expected LILO:
  What can I do without having to do a complete reinstall?
 
 for me the only thing that has ever caused this (there are almost
 certainly other reasons though) is when i've been playing with bios and
 what type of hard drive it thinks it is.
 
 you'll have to excuse me i'm having a momentary brain fart and can't think
 of the words i want but the bit i mean is at the far right of the bios
 display and the options are normal, large and LBA (i think thats
 correct anyway).
 
 your harddrive was possibly formatted with one option and bios is trying
 another.  just reboot and change it until it works (remember what it was
 originally set to in case it is something else!!!)
 
 adam.
 
 
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Re: smail (again..... sheesh..)

1998-03-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On 3 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael Beattie writes:
  What I would like to know is what are peoples opinion's on their own
  configurations, and what the pro's and con's are. One I can think of;
  Daniel's rewriting of /etc/smail/config every login,...
 
 I may try that.
 
  ... versus having visible_name set to your ISP's domain,...
 
 That is what I am doing now, but I don't like it.  It would be fine if I
 could get smail to use my complete popmail name, though.  Can sendmail do
 that?
 
  ...to have a valid hostname.
 
 I have one.  It just makes things worse, since it isn't in my isp's domain.

I gather you mean a valid domain as in being in the DNS??
 
  What would people suggest in my situation, where my ISP's SMTP server
  does not mind invalid hostnames?
 
 That may change.

hehe not my ISP, they are so slack that billing sometimes get
completly screwed up...
 
  should I just use it as a smarthost, and forget about visible_name?
 
 Those are unrelated.

True, but I meant in the situation that with visible_name set to my ISP, I
would not have to use a smarthost for spam-rejecting sites, as it would
appear you are masquerading as your ISP, which has a valid hostname on the
DNS... And using a smarthost, visible_name could be set to your machine's
name.
 
  I have not understood how to set up a smarthost, how is this done?
 
 In /etc/routers I have:
 
 smart_host:
 driver=smarthost, transport=smtp;
 path=bucky.win.bright.net

Thanks I'll give that a go...


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Is there HA (High Availability) like solution ?

1998-03-04 Thread whkye
Hi !

I'd like to bind two debian stations by using HA like solution.
I belive that it could be the tolerant system.
Where can I find it?

Thanks for any small help

whkye


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XNTPD problem

1998-03-04 Thread Martin Madlik
Hi,
  I have folowing problem
  I'm using Debian 2.0 with 2.0.33 kernel and now I'm trying to set up xntpd.
my /etc/ntp looks like this :

logfile /var/log/xntpd
driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
statsdir /var/log/ntpstats/

statistics loopstats peerstats clockstats
filegen loopstats file loopstats type day enable
filegen peerstats file peerstats type day enable
filegen clockstats file clockstats type day enable

server rac.cesnet.cz
server rab.cesnet.cz
server tae.anet.cz

And now if a write :
xntpd -d
server answer :
tick = 1, tickadj = 5, hz = 100
kernel vars: tickadj = 5, tick = 1
adj_precision = 1, tvu_maxslew = 495, tsf_maxslew = 0.002070b9
create_sockets(123)
bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr , flags=1
bind() fd 5, family 2, port 123, addr 7f01, flags=1
bind() fd 6, family 2, port 123, addr c0a80b01, flags=1
bind() fd 7, family 2, port 123, addr c0a80c01, flags=1
bind() fd 8, family 2, port 123, addr c34b421a, flags=0
init_io: maxactivefd 8
resolving rac.cesnet.cz
resolving rab.cesnet.cz
resolving tae.anet.cz
report_event: system event 'event_restart' (0x01) status 'sync_alarm, 
sync_unspec, 1 event, event_unspec' (0xc010)

And hangs in memory.


Don't you know how resolve this bad problem ?


Thanx  Marty


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broken manpages-dev

1998-03-04 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

I just installed manpages-dev_1.18-2.deb, and I had to uninstall it,
because it breaks my man. It stalls updating the cache, untill I have
to CTRL-C it...

Anyone else?

Look:

nr# dpkg -i manpages-dev_1.18-2.deb 
Selecting previously deselected package manpages-dev.
(Reading database ... 28709 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking manpages-dev (from manpages-dev_1.18-2.deb) ...
Setting up manpages-dev (1.18-2) ...
nr# man bogus
Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...

Here I CTRL-C

man: can't remove /tmp/zman21458aaa: Bad file descriptor
nr# dpkg --purge manpages-dev
(Reading database ... 29349 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing manpages-dev ...
nr# man bogus
Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...done.
No manual entry for bogus


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Re: forwarded message from Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Luiz == Luiz Otavio L Zorzella [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Luiz I posted this question in debian-user list, and was advised to
Luiz post in this list, because you have supposedelly just decided to
Luiz remove from the .deb packages a feature that would allow this to
Luiz be accomplished.

Firstly, it was decided that to implement the feature, we
 would need data in a different format than was previously included in
 the packages. We just have not yet put the solution into the policy
 document yet (we do have an implementation).

In the meanwhile, instead of dpkg -l; try this; used with no
 arguments, it gives the size of all installed packages, 

__ ./pkg-size.pl  
gnushogi:   560
libhdf4g-dev:   906
wdiff:   58
 [snipped]

With a space separated list pf package names; it gives:

__  ./pkg-size.pl  make gcc lynx
lynx:  1269
make:   305
gcc:   4968


I hope this is satisfactory in the interim.

manoj

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__
#! /usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use diagnostics;

use vars qw(%Need);
my $select = 0;

for (@ARGV) {
  $select = 1;
  $Need{$_} = 1;
}

$/=;
open (PKGS, /var/lib/dpkg/status) || die Could not read status: $!;
my $size = 0;
 while (PKGS) {
   next unless m/Status: install ok installed/o;
   my ($pkg)  = m/Package:\s*(\S+)/io;
   my ($size) = m/Installed-Size:\s*(\d+)/io;
   next unless $pkg;
   next unless $size;
   if ($select) {
 next unless $Need{$pkg};
   }
   print $pkg:,x (50 - length($pkg) - length($size)), $size\n;
 }
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Re: forwarded message from Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

1998-03-04 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella
Manoj Srivastava writes:

 Hi,
 Luiz == Luiz Otavio L Zorzella [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Luiz I posted this question in debian-user list, and was advised to
Luiz post in this list, because you have supposedelly just decided to
Luiz remove from the .deb packages a feature that would allow this to
Luiz be accomplished.

   Firstly, it was decided that to implement the feature, we
  would need data in a different format than was previously included in
  the packages. We just have not yet put the solution into the policy
  document yet (we do have an implementation).

   In the meanwhile, instead of dpkg -l; try this; used with no
  arguments, it gives the size of all installed packages, 

__ ./pkg-size.pl  

Your script is just what I needed! I'd suggest (since it looks to be
pretty simple) to incorporate this functionality in dpkg. People will
like it!

THANKS!

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Last login info

1998-03-04 Thread M.C. Bezemer
Hi,

I noticed that redhat 5.0 'remembers' the full host name of my last
login, while my debian 1.3.1 system gives me only the first 16 characters
of it. As I didn't yet have the courage to install hamm, my question is,
will hamm also remember the full hostname of the host I last logged in
from? (or at least more than 16 characters)

Greetings,
 Maarten Bezemer.



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Re: I need help

1998-03-04 Thread Ivan Ines Rojas
First, thanks to all the people that has posted to this thread.

Second, I want to explain some point here. I have Debian 1.3.1 with ppp
installed from the 1.3.1 cd ( ppp_2_2... don't remember ) and I found the
pon and poff files.

I checked my ppp.chatscript and ppp.options_out scripts according to the
sugestions here, but when I type pon I got nothing, and off course poff
returns no pppd running.

I also tryed dialing directly to my ISP using minicom and I got this:
ii
Entering PPP Mode
IP Address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
MTU is 

That's it!

I was told by my ISP tech. support that they use PAP. I think I modified the
options file according to the Robert Hart's howto
 http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO.html ) but I may be wrong or I
just did it wrong! ( that's for sure! ;-)

Any ideas? Am I in the right path?

Thanks again to all of you.

Ivan


-Original Message-
From: Bill Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ivan  Ines Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: I need help


I presume that you installed the 'bo' or stable release (ver 1.3.1) and
that you installed close to the latest packages...

ppp-on and ppp-off were replaced with /usr/bin/pon and /usr/bin/poff.

Have you determined if your ISP uses PAP or CHAP?
Do you have to login with a 'username' or 'account' and 'password'?

Have you tried loggin in with a term program such as miniterm yet?


Unfortunately, the HOWTOs were originally write almost exclusively from
the standpoint of a Slackware distribution.  People using debian,
redhat, caldera, unifix, (as far as I know even slackware now), and
other distributions are sometime mislead in various ways by the HOWTOs.

Debian, in particular differs from the the specifics of the HOWTO.  This
deviation is not done 'just to be different' and indeed the entire Linux
community often eventually adopts the 'debian way'.

The debian effort is intended to produce a system that is upgradeable
with minimum impact on your configuration (and thus on you!).  However,
to do that usually requires that the debian distribution does things a
little bit differently than some of the other distributions have done
things in the past.

Unlike DOS and a number of other operating systems, Unix/Linux is pretty
famous for allowing users (and system administrators where applicable)
to choose many different ways to accomplish a given task.

As a practical matter, some restraint must be imposed upon system
administration if it is to be possible to produce a package mainenance
system that can upgrade packages while retaining the specific
configuration that you choose to run.

Thus, debian differs a bit from other distributions because alteration
that you make to your system should comply with the 'debian way' or
future upgrades could fail to properly install (in most of those cases
you would have to do your configuration over again).

...

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Re: Zero Length Files on the CD...

1998-03-04 Thread tko
P. D. Tisdale writes:
 
 I have another problem.. I have downloaded and tested all of the chunks
 that make up the Debian Binary CD.  Also have put them together as
 stated in the instructions  (yes I connected them in order).  Lastly, I
 burned the CD.  However, I'm not sure if this problem is normal for
 these CDs, but there are quite a few ZERO LENGTH FILES on the CD.  Is
 this normal or did I do something wrong??  I used EZCD Pro for Windows
 3.1, and a 650Mb CD.  (My CD Burner is a Creative Labs 4210).

This is normal. Windows(3.x) doesn't have a clue as to how to handle
a symlink. Most likely, the zero-length files are symlinks to other parts of
the CDrom file structure. Have you tried mounting the CD under Linux and
checking it there?

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Re: making room

1998-03-04 Thread Carey Evans
Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there a way to check how much space a package is using? I looked
 for an option for the dpkg -l, so that the size of each package
 would be shown, but found nothing.

There's no built in way.  However, I'd suggest something like:

% dpkg -L octave | xargs ls -lsd | awk '{sum+=$1} END{print sum}'
6114

So octave is using just less than 6 M of disk space, not counting any
extra files it created after being installed.

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Re: Zero Length Files on the CD...

1998-03-04 Thread Carey Evans
P. D. Tisdale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm not sure if this problem is normal for
 these CDs, but there are quite a few ZERO LENGTH FILES on the CD.  Is
 this normal or did I do something wrong??  I used EZCD Pro for Windows
 3.1, and a 650Mb CD.  (My CD Burner is a Creative Labs 4210).

Are these files like FROZEN amd STABLE?

These will turn into symlinks (like Win95 shortcuts) when you look at
them in Linux.

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Re: Have a question about Debian..

1998-03-04 Thread Carey Evans
P. D. Tisdale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just downloaded all of the chunks that make up the Debian Binary CD.
 
 I also downloaded the MD5SUM.EXE and MD5SUMS files.  However, when I use
 MD5SUM to test the chunks, EVERY single one fails!

A better possibility than that you downloaded in text mode, is that
you need to run MD5SUM.EXE in binary mode, e.g. (I think)

CMD5SUM -b -c MD5SUMS

But I've never used it under DOS or Windows.

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mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Hi,

 how am I supposed to use mmove?

 I think it should be called just like mcopy. However, while
 'mcopy a: /dos/e' works, 'mmove a: /dos/e' doesn't. The man
 page and the info file didn't help.

 Any hints? Or is it a bug?

 Thank you,

  Ulf

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Re: php3 + apache = undefined `table_elts'

1998-03-04 Thread tibor simko
 greg == Gergely Madarasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

greg The current php3 package was compiled with apache
greg 1.3b3. Since then apache 1.3b5 is available as a debian
greg package, i just didnt have time to upload the new php3.deb
greg compiled against it... 

hmm, perhaps you could specify an explicit dependence of the php3
package on a certain apache package version?  or at least you can echo
a warning about this issue during postinst, so that the users know...

greg I'll upload them this week.

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

  how am I supposed to use mmove?

As I do not use mtools very often, I am not sure if this helps but it does
not harm to try out:

mmove a:*.* /dos/whatever

I have not tried it though.

All the best,
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Re: making room

1998-03-04 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 05:15:18PM -0800, Jim wrote:
  Is there a way to check how much space a package is using? I looked
  for an option for the dpkg -l, so that the size of each package
  would be shown, but found nothing.
  
  I would _love_ an option like this!! In fact, dselect and/or deity should
  give me a breakdown of the space that would be used by partition, of each
  individual package and by any given group of packages.
 
 Please bring this up on debian-policy; it was only just decided
 to remove the very information from packages that can get you this
 information easily.

I think you are mistaken.  Those du files were silly at
best.  Once we have the .list files containing md5sums and
file sizes this will be even easier, but for now, this
example script should work reasonably well:

#!/usr/bin/perl

my @list, $file, $file_size = 0, $dir_size = 0, $other_size = 0;

chomp(@list = `dpkg -L $ARGV[0]`);

while ($file = shift(@list))
{
if (-f $file) {
$file_size += (stat($file))[7];
}
elsif (-d $file) {
$dir_size += (stat($file))[7];
} else {
$other_size += (stat($file))[7];
}

}

print bytes used by package $ARGV[0]:\n\t\tfiles $file_size bytes\n;
print \t\tdirectories $dir_size bytes\n\t\tother $other_size bytes\n;

or anything similar.

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler

 Thank you for your reply.

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:

 As I do not use mtools very often, I am not sure if this helps but it does
 not harm to try out:
 
 mmove a:*.* /dos/whatever

 Well, I tried that before and it didn't work either.

 Best regards,

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread M.C. Bezemer


On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

 
  Thank you for your reply.
 
 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:
 
  As I do not use mtools very often, I am not sure if this helps but it does
  not harm to try out:
  
  mmove a:*.* /dos/whatever
 
  Well, I tried that before and it didn't work either.
 

You might try to use \* instead of * to disable the shell's filename
expansion. (I have to do that when I'm in tcsh).

Good luck!
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www.ml.org and dynamic dns

1998-03-04 Thread john
I have agreed to package one of the client programs that www.ml.org has for
Debian, but I think that this would best be done by someone who is actually
using the service.  Is there anyone here who is and wants to become a
maintainer?
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Re: mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

 You might try to use \* instead of * to disable the shell's filename
 expansion. (I have to do that when I'm in tcsh).

I don't know about you, but have a look what it complains about:

frcatel:~$ mmove a: /archive/users/peterp/pokus
Path component archive is not a directory
Bad target

This is crazy. I've tried to experiment with the target directory but it
didn't help.

I treat this as a bug.

All the best,
Peter

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 12:55:24PM +0100, Peter Paluch wrote:
  You might try to use \* instead of * to disable the shell's filename
  expansion. (I have to do that when I'm in tcsh).
 
 I don't know about you, but have a look what it complains about:
 
 frcatel:~$ mmove a: /archive/users/peterp/pokus
 Path component archive is not a directory
 Bad target
 
 This is crazy. I've tried to experiment with the target directory but it
 didn't help.
 
 I treat this as a bug.

The error message is a bug, but DOS-wise a: is a non-sensical
source; DOS wouldn't accept it for either copy or move.
a:*.* is the answer but you'd have to quote it. That may or may
not be the problem though.

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread M.C. Bezemer


On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 
 The error message is a bug, but DOS-wise a: is a non-sensical
 source; DOS wouldn't accept it for either copy or move.
 a:*.* is the answer but you'd have to quote it. That may or may
 not be the problem though.
 

I've tried some things on the Debian 1.1 system at the university, but it
seems, that mmove and mren have the same result: renaming files on the
disk, not moving it from floppy to a linux directory. I guess it may be a
bug in the routine that finds out with which name mtools is started. Maybe
this is solved in more recent versions of mtools. This system - not mine -
seems not to have been updated for quite a while.

/home/softweng/i2437307mmove a:/* /tmp/
Path component tmp is not a directory
Bad target
/home/softweng/i2437307mmove a:/* /tmp
Long file name tmp already exists.
a)utorename A)utorename-all r)ename R)ename-all o)verwrite O)verwrite-all
s)kip S)kip-all q)uit (aArRoOsSq): q

Of the two files on the floppy, the first one has been renamed to tmp, and
therefore the other one cannot be renamed to tmp as well.
Another option might be making an entry in /etc/fstab for /dev/fd0 with
the noauto and user options. Having mounted the floppy, you should be able
to move files in the std linux way.

Greetings,
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installing packages

1998-03-04 Thread ANDREW INFANTE

 For a linux newbie...

 How do you go about installing packages that are gzipped, and don't
 have .deb extensions?


 TIA,

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SCSI controller

1998-03-04 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
think of Adaptec and Western Digital?

Thanks a lot.

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Virtual Consoles

1998-03-04 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
Hi,

Can anyone tell me why debian 1.3.1 uses agetty, instead of something like
mingetty?  

I wish to screen to clear after booting my system but using agetty this is not
possible, I have tried using mingetty and this does what I require, but I am
wondering if there is anyreason agetty was chosen (i.e Does it support some
features mingetty does not, when used for virtual consoles)?

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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Henry Hollenberg

Sounds like maybe you didn't redo your links for vmlinuz in / and didn't
edit lilo.conf (if you want to still have your old kernel available in
emergencys).

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Printer sharing

1998-03-04 Thread iquest
Hi,

  I'd like to know how to share my printer that is connected to
  my linux box to other PCs that run Windows/NT on the network.

  Currently,  I'm able to ftp from the Windows/NT PC to my linux
  box.  So I think my network is working.

  Thanks!

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Re: mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, M.C. Bezemer wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
  
  The error message is a bug, but DOS-wise a: is a non-sensical
  source; DOS wouldn't accept it for either copy or move.
  a:*.* is the answer but you'd have to quote it. That may or may
  not be the problem though.

Anyway, it works for mcopy! Using *.* (and quoting it with '') didn't
help. I haven't tried quoting it with '\', though.

 bug in the routine that finds out with which name mtools is started. Maybe
 this is solved in more recent versions of mtools. This system - not mine -
 seems not to have been updated for quite a while.

I'm using the current mtools package from hamm (3.8-1).

 /home/softweng/i2437307mmove a:/* /tmp/
 Path component tmp is not a directory
 Bad target

It's the same error I get. Obviously, it doesn't depend on the file system
which is mounted on that directory. BTW, the path component mentioned in
the error message is always the first path component (ie, /dos/e - dos).

 /home/softweng/i2437307mmove a:/* /tmp
 Long file name tmp already exists.
 a)utorename A)utorename-all r)ename R)ename-all o)verwrite O)verwrite-all
 s)kip S)kip-all q)uit (aArRoOsSq): q
 
 Of the two files on the floppy, the first one has been renamed to tmp, and
 therefore the other one cannot be renamed to tmp as well.

I don't think so. This is because you have a /tmp by default.
But if I remember correctly, this overwrite warning is always shown, if you
omit the trailing slash, even if no file or directory of this name exists.
(I can't test it at the moment)

 Another option might be making an entry in /etc/fstab for /dev/fd0 with
 the noauto and user options. Having mounted the floppy, you should be able
 to move files in the std linux way.

Well, this works. But it's too uncomfortable if you want to copy several
floppies one after the other, because you always need to umount one disk
and mount the next.

 Greetings,
  Maarten Bezemer.

I guess, this is worth a bug report...

Best regards,

  Ulf

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Re: Compute Farm, Part II (nobody mentioned nfsroot!)

1998-03-04 Thread Terrence Brannon

I'm suprised no-one has mentioned nfsroot to-date. Based on its docs,
it could do this quite well. But tryin to understand the docs is hell,
and getting it to work even worse, especially when I got no response
to my probs f/the maintainer.

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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Carroll Kong



Carroll Kong

 tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz

technically you forgot..

cd /usr/include
rm -rf asm linux scsi
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi

 cd linux
 make mrproper
 make menuconfig
 make dep
 make clean
 make zlilo

you also did not seem to check /etc/lilo.conf

 make modules
 make modules_install
 reboot
 
 Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
 have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
 2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
 so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
 and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
 'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
 a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
 it.. and it bombed. 

you mean you thought it was running 2.0.33 because uname -a isn't going to
lie on you.  If uname -a says 2.0.29... you can immediately start thinking
something about this box is different, the computer isnt' going to change
kernels on you.  Try different methods of approach to solve the problem then,
your solutions of leaving it on for an hour did not help, but your land /
teardrop was a good way to confirm the kernel.

 so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
 ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
 redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.

This is how I would do it.. make zImage instead of make zlilo.

*backup /vmlinuz, most likely a link to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29, to something like 
/boot/vmlinuz.old*  

cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /vmlinuz
 
*consider copying to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33 then recreating the /vmlinuz symlink*

*check /etc/lilo.conf, make sure it is pointing to the right hd and /vmlinuz*

lilo

*check date of /vmlinuz or wherever dest file is.  Since the dest file is
/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29, you might want to change it when you confirm it's file
size and date is different and than vmlinuz.old*

then reboot.  on the other hand, you can check /etc/lilo.conf first... then run
make zlilo.  (considering the other steps as well)

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Re: Zero Length Files on the CD...

1998-03-04 Thread Carroll Kong
Hopefully it'll turn to symlinks... he needed to burn with ISO9660 with
Rockridge extensions.  Didn't he say he burned with EZCD Pro?  Mine for Win 95 /
NT had no such option.  They have joliet.. maybe even romeo so he can try to
patch his kernel for fat32 support / joliet (combo patch), and mount the cd-rom.
Semi-primitive, but at least he'll get a lot of the default packages on a fast
medium.

Carroll Kong

On 4 Mar 1998, Carey Evans wrote:

 P. D. Tisdale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I'm not sure if this problem is normal for
  these CDs, but there are quite a few ZERO LENGTH FILES on the CD.  Is
  this normal or did I do something wrong??  I used EZCD Pro for Windows
  3.1, and a 650Mb CD.  (My CD Burner is a Creative Labs 4210).
 
 Are these files like FROZEN amd STABLE?
 
 These will turn into symlinks (like Win95 shortcuts) when you look at
 them in Linux.
 
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-I- Re: mtools: mmove usage sorry, could not help...

1998-03-04 Thread Carroll Kong
I never could get the mtools to have full functionality... especially on
logical drives in extended partitions for dos.  Is that how you do it?  just do
a 
mcopy a: /dos/e?  and it'll hunt for logical partition named E:?  I tried mcopy
a: e: and no go (a while back in FreeBSD). 

I got around it by just mounting my drives and manually copying them mmove
should ignore perms and multiple file systems, 
the mv command freaks out when i move from partition to partition because mved
file retain old perms... so it makes sense that it'll 'fail' on a destination
fat drive.  


Carroll Kong

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

 Hi,
 
  how am I supposed to use mmove?
 
  I think it should be called just like mcopy. However, while
  'mcopy a: /dos/e' works, 'mmove a: /dos/e' doesn't. The man
  page and the info file didn't help.
 
  Any hints? Or is it a bug?
 
  Thank you,
 
   Ulf


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Re: disk partitions (part 3) ... :D

1998-03-04 Thread Helmut Leinfellner
At 11:35 03.03.98 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Helmut;

I am not really much of an expert in this sort of problem but would like
to see if I can help you to have a little better understanding of what
is going on with your system (as best as I understand anyway)...

The ROM portion of DOS loads and executes the mbr, including accessing
the disk drive for the mbr code.  Thus for your system to boot, it is
necessary for the ROM code to be able to find the files needed by lilo
(the files in /boot).

The was 'created' as a 'normal' disk and not a 'lba' disk.  The ROM code
then has to use the 'normal' mode to find the files needed by lilo.  If
you change the mode to 'lba' then when the ROM code interprets the disk
structure information to produce the block numbers that should be used
by the drive to seek to the requested files, the resulting numbers are
NOT the blocks where the files are actually located.

As far as I know the DOS portition of this problem IS not solvable by
any practical method other than reformating the disk under DOS with the
mode set to LBA.  It is actually possible to hand edit the disk
structure information used by the DOS based ROM code and I am told that
there are people that have done this but it is anything but a trivial
task!

IF you do not need to have DOS access to this drive (that would include
Win95 and OS2) you MIGHT be able to do a 'work around'.  First I don't
KNOW that this will work and can't quite tell from your posting if you
already have indication that it will not...

IF the ROM code can load and execute the mbr with the CMOS mode set to
LBA then I think that this will work otherwise it is just a waste of
your time and effort.  My suggestion is:

Set the CMOS to LBA for the drive (this BTW is something that I CAN NOT
do on my own system -- if a drive on my system was formatted in normal
mode then a change to LBA in the CMOS is automatically changed back).

Boot your system using a Linux boot floppy (rescue/installation) if you
don't have something else.

Run lilo (note that if you boot Linux such that your hard disk is NOT
the root filesystem (such as is the case with using the
rescue/installation disk) then it is necessary to tell lilo where the
normal root partition is currently mounted (see the lilo HOWTO or man
page) with something like lilo -r /target (assuming of course that you
mounted your normal hard disk Linux root filesystem on the rescue disk's
ram filesystem on the directory named 'target').

Now AGAIN, I have no idea whether this will work or not.  For this to
work it is necessary that 1)  the ROM code actually will access the disk
when there is a mode mismatch and 2) that lilo _uses_ that code to
determine what the location of the files that are needed during boot
WILL be.

I was just going to send this to you privately but I believe that it is
better to subject this to critical review of those that know the lilo
code as well as the details of exactly how the disk information is used
and interpreted by the ROM code.


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-bill



THANKS, Bill !

My vendor just gave me an updated BIOS version for the motherboard I'm usig
(PA2000). Is it a good idea to rewrite the Eprom and then try to boot with
the new BIOS ? Or is this rather dangerous and my old BIOS should work
anyway ?

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Re: SCSI controller

1998-03-04 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
 in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
 think of Adaptec and Western Digital?

Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.

Alex Y.

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Re: installing packages

1998-03-04 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

  How do you go about installing packages that are gzipped, and don't
  have .deb extensions?

If they are only gzipped, then there is only file inside the .gz file, and
you unzip it using gunzip, like :

gunzip name_of_the_file.gz

However, if the files end with .tar.gz or with .tgz, then you have to use
tar to extract files from this archive, and you do it this way:

tar xpzvf name_of_the_file.tar.gz

It is very often better to install a package than to install from these
archives, as they can contain pure source files which you have to compile
and arrange inside your system. In the .deb packages that is already done.

All the best,
Peter

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Re: installing packages

1998-03-04 Thread Joost Kooij
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, ANDREW INFANTE wrote:

  How do you go about installing packages that are gzipped, and don't
  have .deb extensions?

Ouch! You can't just do that, you need to install Slackware first :-)
But IIRC Slackware is not available as a .deb yet. Maybe someone is
working on it.

No, seriously: you don't need to install tarballs (the hip name for a
.tar.gz archive) because.. you can't. They don't fit into the debian
scheme.

What you can do with them, is to unpack them with tar zxf filename and
compile the source that comes out of the tarball on your system yourself.
The binaries that are produced are best placed in /usr/local/bin so you
keep apart what you put on the system and what dpkg puts on the system. 

Cheers,


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Lilo v18==v20 : HULP!

1998-03-04 Thread Kevin Cave
HELP!

Can't remember what I was doing at the time a month or so ago,

but when I try to run LILO, for it to replace the boot record,

it kind of goes like this.

compaq_4# lilo
First boot sector is version 18. Expecting version 20.
compaq_4#

Any help to get around this is appreciated, folks!

rgds.

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Re: Debian-|-Zip

1998-03-04 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does debian/LINUX support zip drives?
  
  Yes, all varieties.
 
 Well, Zip Plus plugged into parallel port was not supported last time I
 checked...

That's odd, it's worked for me for a while.  You're looking for the ppa
driver, you probably have to insmod it first, unless you've configured
/etc/conf.modules correctly.

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Re: Virtual Consoles

1998-03-04 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

 I wish to screen to clear after booting my system but using agetty this is not
 possible, I have tried using mingetty and this does what I require, but I am
 wondering if there is anyreason agetty was chosen (i.e Does it support some
 features mingetty does not, when used for virtual consoles)?

I can't answer that question, unfortunately, but I am quite satisfied with
agetty.

If you wish to clear the screen after every logout, it is rather simple and
it can be done by putting this line into /etc/profile:

trap clear EXIT

and it means that when bash catches the EXIT signal it executes clear before
it exits. And so you'll have a perfectly clear screen after every logout.

I do not think it is wise to have your first VC clean immediately after
bootup as you can miss some error messages (and forget to look into
/var/log/messages ;-) .

Everything the best,
Peter

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Re: SCSI controller

1998-03-04 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:

 Hello,
 ==
 
 I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
 in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
 think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
 
 Thanks a lot.

 You probably want to ask this question on linux-scsi@vger.rutgers.edu, 
but just to give you a quick summary:

 Adaptec controllers are very common, and perform fairly well, but 
Adaptec does not cooperate with the Linux community, and does not release 
information about their cards. The drivers for Adaptec cards have been 
reverse-engineered. They do seem to work for most people, but other cards 
are better supported.

 I don't know much about Western Digital, but a friend of mine has one 
and has had a lot of trouble getting it to work under Linux. WD does not 
release their specs either. The drivers for WD cards do not seem to be as 
good as for Adaptec.

 Buslogic/Mylex cards *are* supported. Buslogic is very cooperative with 
the Linux community and I have seen many people say that the cards work 
very well.

 I personally have an NCR53c825 card. NCR/Symbios released their 
programming information, too, and the drivers are very good. All the 
NCR53c8xx cards are supported, and most of the NCR53c7xx cards, from what 
I gather. NCR cards are also very cheap - www.swt.com has an ad in the 
Linux Journal to sell an NCR53c810 (Fast SCSI) for $53 (US).

 I have heard that it's hard to get anything but Adaptec in Europe, so 
that may be your only choice. As I said, it does seem to be supported 
fairly well.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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never been finished were abandoned in the hands of their makers,
   because new improvements had superceded their utility.

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Re: SCSI controller

1998-03-04 Thread D. W. Wieboldt
On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 09:36:47AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
  I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
  in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
  think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
 
 Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.
 
 Alex Y.
 
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NCR / Symbios 53c810 works for me, and at 80 bucks or so is probably less
than a buslogic.  There are other supported cards too.

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Re: -I- Re: mtools: mmove usage sorry, could not help...

1998-03-04 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote:

   I never could get the mtools to have full functionality... especially on
 logical drives in extended partitions for dos.  Is that how you do it?  just 
 do
 a 
 mcopy a: /dos/e?  and it'll hunt for logical partition named E:?  I tried 
 mcopy
 a: e: and no go (a while back in FreeBSD).

Yes, the DOS partition I access with E: under DOS is mounted on /dos/e.
I didn't setup a logical drive 'e:' for mtools under Linux (I'll try later
if that works).
'a:' is associated with /dev/fd0 in mtools.conf (as it is per default
after installing mtools).

 I got around it by just mounting my drives and manually copying them mmove
 should ignore perms and multiple file systems, 
 the mv command freaks out when i move from partition to partition because mved
 file retain old perms... so it makes sense that it'll 'fail' on a destination
 fat drive.

You can work around that, if you mount the FAT drive with option 'quiet'.
However, this isn't the reason for the error message.

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Re: wu-ftpd and anonymous ftp

1998-03-04 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Jason Ish wrote:

 I'm running hamm and have just installed the wu-ftpd server for the purpose
 of an anonymous ftp account.  I thought I had everything working, or so it
 appeared to work from any command line ftp client (linux/win95), but when a
 friend tried to get to it using wsftp, no directory listing was given to
 him.
 
 Whats the cause of this and how do I fix it please.  (I did read all the
 docs).

Apparently the libc5 libs were included in this package (also
wu-ftpd-academ) rather than libc6.  There are bug reports on this,
however, and it will hopefully be fixed soon.

The solution (until wu-ftpd gets fixed by the maintainer) was given last
week by Ossama Othman.  It worked for me, but some others seem to be still
having problems.

Run ldd on ls.   For example,

ldd /bin/ls   (you need the absolute path)

You should get output like:

libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Copy the the libraries from the ldd output to ~ftp/lib, or wherever the
above libraries are relative to root (i.e. if in /usr/lib, copy to
~ftp/usr/lib).  Make sure the libraries have a+rx permissions.

HTH,

Bob

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Re: Printer sharing

1998-03-04 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,
 
   I'd like to know how to share my printer that is connected to
   my linux box to other PCs that run Windows/NT on the network.

I'm not sure if this will work with NT machines, but here goes anyway :).

In order to allow a UN*X machine to accept print requests from a remote
machine, you will have to edit your /etc/hosts.lpd file (create one if it
doesn't exist), and add the names (full domain included!) of the hosts you
want to have access to your Linux box's printer.  After that, add the
names of those remote machines to your /etc/hosts file.  Make sure 
the local machine hostname is in the hosts.lpd file, too. Otherwise, you
may not be able to print from your Linux box.  Finally, restart your lpd
daemon. I know that this works for UN*X to UN*X printing.  I really have
no idea if it will work with NT to UN*X printing.

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Re: SCSI controller

1998-03-04 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 09:36:47AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
  I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no experience
  in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well with Linux. What do you
  think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
 
 Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.

That's certainly untrue, although the BusLogic driver is exceptionally
good -- thanks largely to support from the company.  I've heard that
the DPT driver is also excellent, and AdvanSys is vendor-supported and
should be of high quality.

Adaptec does not support free software, and the driver shows it.  :-)

Jeff


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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote:

  tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
 
 technically you forgot..
 
 cd /usr/include
 rm -rf asm linux scsi
 ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
 ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
 ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi


NO, DON'T DO THIS.  Read /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz or
/usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz for the reasons why not.

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Re: Have a question about Debian..

1998-03-04 Thread Steve Mayer
I also ran across this problem when I tried a hand built MD5SUM from the
source package on sunsite.  Once I replaced it with the Debian copy, the
problems went away.  Check to see if you have more than one copy of
MD5SUM in your path.  

Steve Mayer
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Carey Evans wrote:
 
 P. D. Tisdale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I just downloaded all of the chunks that make up the Debian Binary CD.
 
  I also downloaded the MD5SUM.EXE and MD5SUMS files.  However, when I use
  MD5SUM to test the chunks, EVERY single one fails!
 
 A better possibility than that you downloaded in text mode, is that
 you need to run MD5SUM.EXE in binary mode, e.g. (I think)
 
 CMD5SUM -b -c MD5SUMS
 
 But I've never used it under DOS or Windows.
 
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Re: SCSI controller

1998-03-04 Thread ' ALLAN W. BART

hi,

i have just purchased an inexpensive advansys fast scsi controller from a
com,pany and it seems that they are very good at working with the linux
community. the firm that i great a good buy from was centrix
international.

thanks,

allan


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Re: Last login info

1998-03-04 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, M.C. Bezemer wrote:

 I noticed that redhat 5.0 'remembers' the full host name of my last
 login, while my debian 1.3.1 system gives me only the first 16 characters
 of it. As I didn't yet have the courage to install hamm, my question is,
 will hamm also remember the full hostname of the host I last logged in
 from? (or at least more than 16 characters)

Yes, hamm is capable of providing the longer hostnames.  The format of the
files that keep track of logins was extended by libc6, so a hamm system
will take advantage of that fact.

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Re: SCSI controller

1998-03-04 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
In an article Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| In an article Peter Paluch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  I'm thinking of buying a SCSI for my computer. However, I have no
|  experience in this field. I'd like to buy some that works well
|  with Linux. What do you think of Adaptec and Western Digital?
| 
| Only BusLogic (Mylex) is guranteed to work properly under Linux.

Huh? When did this happen? Certainly Adaptec was part of the first
SCSI support under Linux. I remember using my 1542B (which I still
have in my current Linux box) back in 0.9x Linux days. I also recall
when the BusLogic drivers weren't part of the kernel distribution and
you had to download them separately.

I currently have both an Adaptec 2940UW and 1542B in my linux box and,
other than doing kernel recompiles, I've never even had to think about
the fact that they're in there. They've worked flawlessly.

I do believe that BusLogic controllers, from what I've heard (so it's
only hearsay) have better performance, but are slightly more
expensive.

If you're only running Linux and Win95 I don't think you can go wrong
either way but I'd go with the best performer if I were buying today.

Good Luck!
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Re: LI instead of LILO:

1998-03-04 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, C.J.LAWSON wrote:

 I have had this problem before and I almost died of fustration before I
 fixed ... as with most things the solution was pretty simple. For a start
 try using a minimal lilo and requesting the bios to auto detect the hdd at
 boot up. If this fails then do the same thing (auto detect) but specify 
 large, LBA and then normal, in turn ... Large did the trick for me if I
 can remember correctly

I reinstalled about 4 times and then I saw your email and the user.tex for
lilo and it suddenly clicked that you may be right and you were truly
right. I set my drive from normal to AUTO and everything works. The system
works beautifully now.

This info needs to go on the FAQ of LILO. I wonder how many people gave up
just because of this. 
/---/
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Re: smail (again..... sheesh..)

1998-03-04 Thread john
I wrote:
 I have one [a valid hostname].  It just makes things worse, since it isn't
 in my isp's domain.

Michael Beattie writes:
 I gather you mean a valid domain as in being in the DNS?

Yes.

 hehe not my ISP, they are so slack that billing sometimes get
 completly screwed up...

BrightNet is pretty slack too: they can't even get their clocks set right.
Nonetheless, they upgraded sendmail.

 True, but I meant in the situation that with visible_name set to my ISP,
 I would not have to use a smarthost for spam-rejecting sites,...

smart_host has to do with outgoing mail.  So far as I know it has no
relevance to spam.

 ...as it would appear you are masquerading as your ISP,

smart_host just hands off delivery to the smarthost so that their
well-connected machine can do the address lookup, delivery, retries, etc.
The message still goes out with your address.

 ..And using a smarthost, visible_name could be set to your machine's
 name.

The reverse.  If you don't use smart_host you will be delivering every
message directly to the addressed host.  If your address resolves they will
accept the message.  Many will accept it even if the address doesn't
resolve.  When you use smart_host, though, you are asking your ISP to relay
for you.  This causes them to suspect that you might be a spammer, so they
may refuse the message unless the MAIL FROM: address is within their
domain.

I can get mail delivered to addresses in win.bright.net with a MAIL FROM:
of [EMAIL PROTECTED], but if the destination is outside their domain it has
to say [EMAIL PROTECTED].
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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Carroll Kong
My bad.  Sorry for the misinformation then.  I am new to
Debian... used
to old school Slackware.  

Although it says it will break compilations... it seemed to work fine
for the most part.  But from now on, I will not do it.

Carroll Kong

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Scott Ellis wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote:
 
   tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
  
  technically you forgot..
  
  cd /usr/include
  rm -rf asm linux scsi
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi
 
 
 NO, DON'T DO THIS.  Read /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz or
 /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz for the reasons why not.
 
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Re: Printer sharing

1998-03-04 Thread Florian Attenberger
Hi,
 
 iquest wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
I'd like to know how to share my printer that is connected to
my linux box to other PCs that run Windows/NT on the network.
Currently,  I'm able to ftp from the Windows/NT PC to my linux
box.  So I think my network is working.
 
Thanks!
 
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 try the samba-package
 u can export files and printers to win95/NT/3.1 with it
 the printer should work without any printer-specific configuration.


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Re: New (hamm) afterstep info

1998-03-04 Thread Anthony Fok
On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 11:28:13AM -, Kevin Traas wrote:
 I'm running the new 1.4 on a few machines here and it's great!  Many changes
 from the previous version.
 
 ftp the tarball and untar it.  The README/INSTALL provide info on changes
 from the original - however, these files are themselves a little dated
 
 Anyway, works great and no complaints from my end!

Just like to let you know that there is already a Debian package for
AfterStep 1.4.  That is, if you are using a hamm (pre-2.0, i.e. unstable)
distribution.  :-)  It works great here too.  I love the speed!  :-)

Anthony

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sharing a fax/modem with win95

1998-03-04 Thread Rob Goodwin
Hi there,

Can anyone out there tell me if there is some kind of solution out there
that will let win95 to send a fax through a fax/modem on a linux server? 

thanks for any suggestions,

rob


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tape backup regiment

1998-03-04 Thread Rob Goodwin
I would like to set up a fail-safe backup system for a linux box that
i am putting together for a client of mine.  Ideally the client will
just have to make sure there is a new tape in there every other day and
a cron will take care of backing up the entire 2G drive to tape sometime
when everyone else is sleeping.

In the event of a drive crash I would like to have some kind of a boot
disk handy such that once the drive is replaced they can run a script to
fdisk/format/restore from tape.  Has anyone heard of or done something
like this?  how?

any suggestions on tape hardware? 

thanks,

rob


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Re: Debian-|-Zip

1998-03-04 Thread Alex Yukhimets
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 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Does debian/LINUX support zip drives?
   
   Yes, all varieties.
  
  Well, Zip Plus plugged into parallel port was not supported last time I
  checked...
 
 That's odd, it's worked for me for a while.  You're looking for the ppa
 driver, you probably have to insmod it first, unless you've configured
 /etc/conf.modules correctly.
 
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IDE CD-ROM IRQ

1998-03-04 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
I'm performing an installation from CD-ROM on a Compaq Deskpro 4000
with a CreativeLabs 8x IDE CD-ROM.

During dselect, the machine comes to a crawl (including the other
virtual consoles), almost unusable, and the instalation of each packages
takes minutes. The console is filled by many, many lines of these
messages:

hdb: ATAPI reset complete
hdb: irq timeout: status=0x58

hdb is probably /dev/hdb, which is my CD-ROM drive (the second
device on the first IDE controller.

I installed the CD modules in the kernel without specifying any
parameters.

Can someone give me a hint at what to do? I already looked at the
archives but found nothing...


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My laptop keeps crashing

1998-03-04 Thread Charles Blair
   I have installed debian on an IBM Thinkpad (model 310ED--- this
seems to be a little-used model, I'm beginning to understand why).
I used the CD's that came with Dale Scheetz's DEBIAN LINUX USER'S GUIDE.

   Most of the system worked as I expected.  However, I have recently
been experiencing crashes, screens going black, and other strange
behavior.  The most recent crash came while I was using emacs (not
from X).

   Suddenly the screen filled with a bunch of stuff I don't understand.
I hope somebody can explain what the excerpts below might mean, and what
I should do about it.

   (pid: 1 process nr: 1 stackpage = 002ad000 )
 Unable to handle kernel paging request at (bunch of zeroes)
 current - tss.cr3 = 00c5000 %cr3 = 00cc5000
 (then the word STACK followed by a bunch of 8-digit numbers)
 kpde = 0
 Oops: 0003
 CPU: 0
 EIP: 0010 [  0010a31b ]
 EEFLAGS: 00010246
 (bunch more junk)
 Process init (pid: 178, process nr: 4, stackpage 00fab00)

 The machine was printing, every 30 seconds or so

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when I turned it off.

 I think lp0 refers to the parallel port, but I don't have a printer
or anything else attached there.

   I have been experiencing difficulty using kermit and trying to get
X to work, but neither of these had been tried during the session involving
the most recent crash, so I suspect the problem may be elsewhere.

   Thanks  very much for any help.

   


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dotfile locking, NFS and lockd

1998-03-04 Thread Nelson Posse Lago
Hi,

Quite some time ago (somewhere around debian 1.1 and 1.2), it was pointed
out (by Miquel Smoorenburg, I think) that while all debian programs
(or all mail related programs?) agree in using dotfile locking, many of
them used the wrong function to implement that, since the commonly used
function is not atomic over NFS (meaning locking could fail over NFS on a
busy machine).

So, I'd like to know the status of that; is this solved in 1.3.1? What
about 1.2 (I haven't upgraded yet, I'm lazy ;-) . Or, putting it
differently: can I export my mail spool thru NFS and sleep at night if
all systems involved run debian?

On the same line, I think the new (2.1.x) kernel-supported NFS server is
supposed to have the hooks necessary to implement a really cool lockd for
linux which would solve this kind of problem and allow for reliable NFS
locking among linux and other Unixes etc. Quite misteriously, I don't see
mentions to this when people talk about the improvements of the new
kernels, why is that? And is the lockd really being developed? If so,
should I expect it to be available when the newer kernel freezes?

Thanks in Advance,
Nelson
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re: Printer sharing

1998-03-04 Thread iquest
Hi All,

  Thanks to all the users replied to my question on Printer sharing.
  Most of you suggested me to use Samba.  I went ahead and install the
  Samba package.  I read some of the document that came with the package

  and I still do not quite get to do what I want.  If anyone of you do
not
  mind, could you send me a step by step procedure :) or could someone
  point me to the doc that could lead me to do this?

1.) I've a HP 6MP laser printer connect to my Linux box.  I'd like
to allow other PC (running Windows/NT) to print thing to it.

2.) How about the reverse,  If I have the printer connected to the
Windows/NT server PC,  how would my Linux box print thing to it?

  After installed the Samba,  I ran this command:
smbstatus
  and I got:
Couldn't open status file /var/lock/samba/STATUS..LCK

  I'm wondering if I need to start some at boot time or something?

  Any help will be greately appreciated.  Thank you very much in
advance!


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Re: mtools: mmove usage

1998-03-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

  how am I supposed to use mmove?
 
  I think it should be called just like mcopy.

Though the syntax may look superficially similar, that's about the only
connection between mmove and mcopy. 

 However, while
  'mcopy a: /dos/e' works,

Here, /dos/e is on a unix filesystem. About a:, the documentation says

   fer.  A missing drive  designation  implies  a  Unix  file
   whose  path  starts in the current directory.  If a source
   drive letter is specified with no attached file name (e.g.
   mcopy a: .), all files are copied from that drive.

 'mmove a: /dos/e' doesn't.

For a start, there's no source file specified. And if it were to take 
that to mean a:*.* (it doesn't), it would necessarily loop: \ goes to 
\dos\e, therefore \dos\e goes to \dos\e\dos\e ad infinitum.
Remember, \dos\e is on a: and not on unix.

 The man
  page and the info file didn't help.
 
  Any hints? Or is it a bug?

Perhaps you read the man page thinking that move a b means
copy a b and then delete a. It doesn't.

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Re: php3 + apache = undefined `table_elts'

1998-03-04 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On 4 Mar 1998, tibor simko wrote:

  greg == Gergely Madarasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 greg The current php3 package was compiled with apache
 greg 1.3b3. Since then apache 1.3b5 is available as a debian
 greg package, i just didnt have time to upload the new php3.deb
 greg compiled against it... 
 
 hmm, perhaps you could specify an explicit dependence of the php3
 package on a certain apache package version?  or at least you can echo
 a warning about this issue during postinst, so that the users know...

When I uploaded php 3.0b4 I didnt know that apache 1.3b5 would break
it. It could have worked :)

Greg

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Re: sharing a fax/modem with win95

1998-03-04 Thread Steve Mayer
Rob,

  Check out the Hylafax package.  It has a Windows client.

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Rob Goodwin wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 Can anyone out there tell me if there is some kind of solution out there
 that will let win95 to send a fax through a fax/modem on a linux server?
 
 thanks for any suggestions,
 
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Re: LI instead of LILO:

1998-03-04 Thread C.J.LAWSON
I'm glad to be of help
Jonathan

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Daniel Mashao wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, C.J.LAWSON wrote:
 
  I have had this problem before and I almost died of fustration before I
  fixed ... as with most things the solution was pretty simple. For a start
  try using a minimal lilo and requesting the bios to auto detect the hdd at
  boot up. If this fails then do the same thing (auto detect) but specify 
  large, LBA and then normal, in turn ... Large did the trick for me if I
  can remember correctly
 
 I reinstalled about 4 times and then I saw your email and the user.tex for
 lilo and it suddenly clicked that you may be right and you were truly
 right. I set my drive from normal to AUTO and everything works. The system
 works beautifully now.
 
 This info needs to go on the FAQ of LILO. I wonder how many people gave up
 just because of this. 
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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Henry Hollenberg

I found Dale Scheetz book helpful pg. 159-171 go over the traditional
linux way of compiling a custom kernel vs. the Debian way.

I got mine from www.linuxpress.com but you might find one in your local
bookstore The Debian Linux User's Guide

I'd have been pretty lost without it.  Oh yeah, I don't have any stock in
this company or book and wouldn't no Dale if I literally bumped into
himjust found the book helpful for me.

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Re: afterstep

1998-03-04 Thread Kevin Traas
I upgraded afterstep to 1.4, but I had to downgrade it back to 1.0,
cuz the new one did not get any of my old confs, and looked horrible!

Did I do anything wrong?


Yeah, you didn't configure it to your own tastes!Give it another try!

The conf files and structure have totally changed between versions.  To
modify your new setup, just go to ~/GNUStep/Library/AfterStep/* and modify
the stuff in there.

It's all pretty self-explanatory.

Later,
Kevin


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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread David Wright
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Scott Walker wrote:

 Ok, this is a BIG nasty weird problem.
 I'm runnig Debian With default Kernel 2.0.29

So we're in bo, I take it.

 I grabbed Kernel 2.0.33 from ftp.kernel.org
 and did the following steps:
 tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
 cd linux
 make mrproper
 make menuconfig
 make dep
 make clean
 make zlilo
 make modules
 make modules_install
 reboot
 
 Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
 have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
 2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
 so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
 and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
 'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
 a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
 it.. and it bombed. so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
 ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
 redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.

Well it pretty obviously put the compiled kernel somewhere where 
something couldn't find it, so it just carried on using the old one.
Presumably it consistently did the same thing multiple times, which is a 
relief.

I notice you're using a linux tarball and not the Debian kernel-source 
package, so there may be some sort of tweak missing. For example, the 
linux/Makefile says:

# INSTALL_PATH specifies where to place the updated kernel and system map
# images.  Uncomment if you want to place them anywhere other than root.

#INSTALL_PATH=/boot

Now I compile my own kernels from kernel-source packages and I don't 
touch that line. However, make install always puts the new kernel and 
map in /boot (and moves symlinks in root), so something must be Debianised.

You could try changing make zlilo to make zImage and make install and see
where the kernel image ends up (remember the System.map too).

Alternatively, you could get 33 in a debian package from unstable - I've 
compiled it for the joystick on a bo system without any problems.

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