demonizing fetchmail (continued)

1998-03-10 Thread Dave Mallery

i got the /etc/ppp/ip-up procedure to send me mail...which was from root

Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:09:58 -0700 (MST)
From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so, how do you tell fetchmail and procmail (running as a root daemon)
 where to find the dotfiles in my home account??  
 (or do i move the dotfiles to /root and change the $HOME references??)


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Re: PS mouse and keyboard lock

1998-03-10 Thread aqy6633
 I have two, I think  related questions.
 
 - How to install a ps/2 mouse. I have a /dev/psaux dev
  crw-rw-rw- 1 root sys 10, 1  
 If I try to configure gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 
 it says: no such device

Dear ZORO,

do you have ps2 mouse suport compiled into kernel or loaded as a module?

Alex Y.

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XF86Setup

1998-03-10 Thread Taylen
Hey...I've been trying for a few days now to get x windows to work, I tried
using XF86Setup to make my configuration file, but the graphics for it were
screwed up and unreadable...I then tried to use just XF86Config and created
an X configuration filehowever, when I tried to start x, the screen was
still messed up as it had been when I had run XF86SetupI haven't been
able to figure out what the problem might be, does anyone know what might
be causing this problem?

Taylen


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Re: CNAME records (was: Re: dynamic DNS within a non-dynamic domain)

1998-03-10 Thread David Stern
On 09 Mar 1998 10:50:15 +0100, wrote:
 Note that AFAIK all SMTP mailers (well, sendmail at least) will rewrite the 
 addresses in the mail headers. That includes rewriting a CNAME pointer to
 the canonical name it points to.

If this is what ails my smail, then the vast majority of domains have 
recently and unanimously conspired to reject my mail, because I've been 
sending mail just fine up until I installed hamm.  This idea seems an 
incomplete explanation, if this also applies to me, but anything's 
possible..

 So even if you send out mail with the CNAME in the From: header field,
 the recipient mailer will rewrite it.. no way around it.
 
 The correct way to solve this is to not use CNAMEs but to just set
 up an extra A + MX record. Or perhaps just an MX record if all you're
 using it for is mail.

I don't run sendmail, but what's going on sounds an awful lot like like 
what I'm experiencing with smail, so I'd like to know more about 
setting up an MX record, whatever that is..   Where can I find out 
about this?
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Re: XF86Setup

1998-03-10 Thread David Stern
On Mon, 09 Mar 1998 19:29:44 EST, Taylen wrote:
 Hey...I've been trying for a few days now to get x windows to work, I tried
 using XF86Setup to make my configuration file, but the graphics for it were
 screwed up and unreadable...I then tried to use just XF86Config and created
 an X configuration filehowever, when I tried to start x, the screen was
 still messed up as it had been when I had run XF86SetupI haven't been
 able to figure out what the problem might be, does anyone know what might
 be causing this problem?

Is this a new install?  What video card are you running?

If you're running a Matrox Millenium II, you're gonna have to wait for 
the .deb, because the latest XFree86 version with support just released 
a few days ago, or so it was reported here last night, I believe.

Of course you can compile it yourself.  I had to do this when my Matrox 
Millenium was unsupported, and it was pretty painless for me, even 
though I was totally new to Linux.  (tar -xvzf, read README, edit 
Makefile, make, make install)

You also might try the excellent XFree86 FAQ at: http://x.physics.usyd.e
du.au/FAQ/index.html

The XFree86 Matrox FAQ is at: http://matrox.alloy.net/eng/faq.html

If you've got a laptop, there are special resources for you too, but 
right now the matrox seems to be the most FAQ.  I hope you're also 
reading the man pages, and /usr/doc/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README* .
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/etc/passwd comment field

1998-03-10 Thread Norbert Veber
Sorry for posting this again, but I'm not sure if anyone answered me the
first time, since ml.org went all screwy right about the time I asked this
the first time..

I was reading through the passwd(5) man page, and I noticed something really
neat, you can set the priority at which the users processes will run, and
their ulimit.  I was able to get the pri= field to work, and I also want to
limit users to a max of 40 processes, but I can't figure out how.  What is
the format of the ulimit= field?  I tried ulimit=-u40 and ulimit=u40, and
with a space between u and 40, but it doesn't work.. (I got the u= from man
ulimit..)

PS. I use a hamm system.


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Icons in windows managers

1998-03-10 Thread adavis
For a long time, since two days after I first installed a pre 1.3 debian
system, most of the icons in fvwm2 menus stopped working.  Until the latest
afterstep, only root could get all the icons in afterstep, but the latest
afterstep improves this at least to some extent.  

Is this a permissions issue?  I have waited for over half a year to bring
this issue up, hoping that some package upgrade would solve it, but no luck
until this afterstep upgrade (maybe).  I tried tweaking permissions on the
icon files and their directories, with no effect.  

Can someone shed a clue?

Alan Davis
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Re: CNAME records (was: Re: dynamic DNS within a non-dynamic domain)

1998-03-10 Thread Rich Puhek

On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, David Stern wrote:

  
  The correct way to solve this is to not use CNAMEs but to just set
  up an extra A + MX record. Or perhaps just an MX record if all you're
  using it for is mail.
 
 I don't run sendmail, but what's going on sounds an awful lot like like 
 what I'm experiencing with smail, so I'd like to know more about 
 setting up an MX record, whatever that is..   Where can I find out 
 about this?
 -- 

The MX record (Mail eXchange) is on your DNS server. It's what points
incoming mail for username@foo.bar to the appropriate machine to handle
the mail. What's worked for me is the following:

mailIN  A   10.0.20.1
IN  MX  10  mail

It's probably not quite kosher (also note that these are my internal DNS
numbers), but it does work. I also have an 'A' record for 'debian' (the
name of our box, real imaginative) pointing to 10.0.20.1. 


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IP Forwarding/Masquerading Built-in?

1998-03-10 Thread jebstar
Do the standard versions of the Debian kernel have IP forwarding and 
and IP Masquerading compiled in?  Is there an easy way to tell what's 
in the kernel and what isn't?  Also is there any easy way to tell the 
version of the kernel image being used?

Thanks,

JEB


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Re: kernel 2.0.33

1998-03-10 Thread Adam Klein
On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 02:44:07PM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
   Can I use the 2.0.33 deb package from hamm in a bo machine without
 upgrade the whole system to hamm?

Yes.

Adam Klein


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Amanda help please.

1998-03-10 Thread Stan Brown
I am trying to upgrade to amanda 2.4.0 on my network. One of the amanda
clients is a Debian 1.2 machine. This machine was working relatively
happily as an amanda 2.3 client. 

I compiled amanda with --with-user=amanda --with-group=operator ,
which is the asm as all the other machines on the network. User and
group administration is provided vua NIS. I pointed inetd.conf to the
new amanda executables. 

Now amcheck from the tape host reports:

ERROR: yogi: [access as backup not allowed from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yogi of course, is the Debian boxes name.

Can anyone gve me a clue as to what is special about Debian here?

Thanks.

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Re: /etc/passwd comment field

1998-03-10 Thread Emery Dennis
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At 08:44 PM 3/9/98 -0500, Norbert Veber wrote:
Sorry for posting this again, but I'm not sure if anyone answered me the
first time, since ml.org went all screwy right about the time I asked this
the first time..

I was reading through the passwd(5) man page, and I noticed something really
neat, you can set the priority at which the users processes will run, and
their ulimit.  I was able to get the pri= field to work, and I also want to
limit users to a max of 40 processes, but I can't figure out how.  What is
the format of the ulimit= field?  I tried ulimit=-u40 and ulimit=u40, and
with a space between u and 40, but it doesn't work.. (I got the u= from man
ulimit..)

PS. I use a hamm system.


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Using Linux in a Corporate Environment - Any Developers?

1998-03-10 Thread Jeff Alami
SUMMARY: Has anyone created a business app in Linux/XWin (with something
like Tcl/Tk)? Read on for details.

Hi, my name is Jeff Alami; I am from Vancouver, Canada. At my workplace
we are considering upgrading our current systems and software (mainly
because we don't like the outsourced programmer). Allow me to brief you
in our current implementation:

- Main server: 486 DX/2-50, 16 MB RAM, Equinox Megaport 8CS multiport
board.
- Terminals: 5 text-based VT100 terminals connected to multiport board.
- Software: SCO UNIX 3.2, Universal Business BASIC, code created for
Business BASIC.

We have two options; I like the first one better. I also calculated the
approximate cost:

(1) Linux implementation -- approx. cost: US $3000 (if X-terminals are
bought used) excl. development
- Main server: K6-233, 64 MB RAM, 6.4 GB HD, Network card, 8-port hub
- Terminals: 4 or 5 X-terminals
- Software: Debian Linux, XFree86, development environment such as
Tcl/Tk

(2) Wintel crap -- approx. cost: US $15,000
- Main server: same as (1)
- Lots more computers
- Software: WinNT, Borland Delphi 3 to develop interface, Oracle8.

Now, I would love to do implementation (1); it will keep Microsoft off
my back for a long time. The only thing about (1) is that I need to find
someone who can develop (or has developed) a Linux/X Window application,
possibly in Tcl/Tk or C, that does business operations, such as order
entry, inventory control, general ledger, and so on.

Thanks for all the help! I wish I am able to stay with Linux; it's a
world-class OS.

Sincerely,
Jeff Alami
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uname -a question

1998-03-10 Thread Greg Norris
When I run uname -a,I get a line like the following:

 Linux glitch 2.0.33 #1 Thu Mar 5 17:47:54 CST 1998 i686 unknown

I was just curious what the unknown portion refers to.  The man/info
page seems to indicate that the -a option is equivilent to -snrvm,
but when invoked in that fashion I don't get the unknown part.  I'm
running a (recently upgraded) hamm system, but was getting the same
results under bo.

Thanx!



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Deb Testing Group needs test dummies

1998-03-10 Thread Brandon Mitchell
[ REQUEST FOR DEBIAN TESTING GROUP MEMBERS (for those who don't like humor)]

Greetings earthings.

A few months ago, I posted a request for people interested in the Debian
Testing Group.  With the hamm freeze nearing, it's time to do that again.

 - Do you enjoy running cutting edge software?
 - Do you have an afternoon free sometime this next month?
 - Do you have access to a computer?
 - Do you want to use your computer for world domination?

Woops, forget that last one, I've reserved it for myself.  Basically, we
try the upgrade and base disk, see if the programs work, and submit bug
reports along with testing reports.

How to join?  Just send me an e-mail letting me know what you want to do
(nothing big, e.g. I can try the upgrade and let you know how it goes).
Soon after, you should be added to the mailing list (it's low volume).

Brandon - Assistant Director of Debian Testing Group

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Tcl/Tk source ?

1998-03-10 Thread Markus Lechner
Hi all,

i'm expieriencing a problem when compiling different packages which use
Tcl/Tk. The problem is that make ends up with an error complaining about
a missing tcl.h and tk.h. The paths are set accordingly. Do i use the
wrong versions (Tcl7.6, Tk4.2, and all the runtime-libs)?
So i thought, it would be a good idea to get the source from a
debian-server - but found none. Is there a .deb source-package for
Tcl/Tk?
Do i need the source to compile other packages?
Is the non-debian source usable?

Maybe someone knows... ;-)


Mac



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XF

1998-03-10 Thread Abou Anber


 At the first point of start Xwindows the Screen like

Linux (Bebian )

Login
 
Passward

at first time it look big size and I change the resolution by cntl+ alt+ + 
the resolution become smaller again Cntl+ alt+ + the resolution become more
smaller if I repeat again it will become more big.

who can I fixed the resoltion of Xwindows at begining?

down you will find my XF86Config.

===

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **

Section Files



RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb



FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

# For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be
# used to set a search path for the modules.  This is currently supported
# for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x.  The default path is shown
# here.

#ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules

EndSection

# **
# Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.  Dynamically loadable
# modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x
# and NetBSD 1.x.  Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used
# only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers.
# **
#
# Section Module
#
# This loads the module for the Joystick driver
#
# Load xf86Jstk.so
# 
# EndSection

# **
# Server flags section.
# **

Section ServerFlags

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#DontZoom

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#   DisableVidModeExtension

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. 

#   AllowNonLocalXvidtune

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings. 

#   DisableModInDev

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

#   AllowNonLocalModInDev

EndSection

# **
# Input devices
# **

# **
# Keyboard section
# **

Section Keyboard

ProtocolStandard

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line

#Protocol   Xqueue

AutoRepeat  500 5
# Let the server do the NumLock processing.  This should only be required
# when using pre-R6 clients
#ServerNumLock

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#Xleds  1 2 3

# To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, 
# RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:

#LeftAlt Meta
#RightAltModeShift
#RightCtlCompose
#ScrollLock  ModeLock

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.

XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#XkbModelpc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#XkbModelmicrosoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a 

Re: Tcl/Tk source ?

1998-03-10 Thread David Z. Maze

Markus Lechner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ML i'm expieriencing a problem when compiling different packages
ML which use Tcl/Tk. The problem is that make ends up with an error
ML complaining about a missing tcl.h and tk.h. The paths are set
ML accordingly. Do i use the wrong versions (Tcl7.6, Tk4.2, and all
ML the runtime-libs)?

In most cases, header files are included only with the -dev packages.
On my (hamm) system, tcl.h is in the tcl8.0-dev package; try
installing this or an equivalent package on your system.

ML So i thought, it would be a good idea to get the source from a
ML debian-server - but found none. Is there a .deb source-package for
ML Tcl/Tk?

There's not a general case of a .deb source package in the same
sense as an SRPM.  Debian sources are distributed as a tarball
(ideally one downloaded from some upstream source) and a gzipped patch
file.  If you download these two and the corresponding .dsc file, you
can use dpkg-source (in the dpkg-dev package) to unpack the source
tree.  For hamm, you can find tcl8.0 sources at
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/tcl8.0_8.0p2{-2.diff.gz,-2.dsc,.orig.tar.gz}.

ML Do i need the source to compile other packages?

I wouldn't think so.  Usually the -dev package is sufficient.  (The
-dev package _should_ be sufficient.)

ML Is the non-debian source usable?

Probably; it's most likely identical to the tcl...orig.tar.gz file off 
the ftp site.  Note that if you build the source yourself, dpkg won't
know that you've installed tcl and will give you lots of dependency
errors.  This is poor.

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Re: Tcl/Tk source ?

1998-03-10 Thread Markus Lechner
Thanks, this information helps a lot.

 Note that if you build the source yourself, dpkg won't
 know that you've installed tcl and will give you lots of dependency
 errors.  This is poor.


I wondered if there is a way to 'mimic' install/remove with dpkg?


Thanks,

Mac



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dpkg 'mimic' install/remove?

1998-03-10 Thread Markus Lechner
Hi all,

is there a way to tell dpkg to 'mimic' an install/remove of a given
package. For example, i removed a package by hand and want to tell dpkg
that this package can be 'removed'.

Mac



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Re: XF

1998-03-10 Thread robert havoc pennington

On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Abou Anber wrote:
 who can I fixed the resoltion of Xwindows at begining?


Your preferred resolution should be the first one listed.
 
 down you will find my XF86Config.
 
 
...
 
 Subsection Display
 Depth   8
 # Omit the Modes line for the Generic VGA device
 Modes   640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
^^
This line should be in the order you want, and similarly for any other 
Subsection Display you use. Be sure to change the order for all the
different color depths.

HTH, 
Havoc Pennington
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I have a question

1998-03-10 Thread Argo Shipping
Could you tell me where I can find drivers for YCL9542 PCI card

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Re: Tcl/Tk source ?

1998-03-10 Thread Rich Puhek

On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Markus Lechner wrote:

 Thanks, this information helps a lot.
 
  Note that if you build the source yourself, dpkg won't
  know that you've installed tcl and will give you lots of dependency
  errors.  This is poor.
 
 
 I wondered if there is a way to 'mimic' install/remove with dpkg?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mac
 
 

If you go to /var/lib/dpkg, you will find a file called status. This
appears to be how dselect keeps track of what's installed/configured/etc.
The format is pretty self explanitory, so you should be able to hack the
status line of the package in question, fooling dselect into thinking it
installed the package.

Rich


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Re: Tcl/Tk source ?

1998-03-10 Thread Markus Lechner
Rich Puhek wrote:

 If you go to /var/lib/dpkg, you will find a file called status. This
 appears to be how dselect keeps track of what's
installed/configured/etc.
 The format is pretty self explanitory, so you should be able to hack
the
 status line of the package in question, fooling dselect into
thinking it
 installed the package.

Yes, i'll try this. When i get this working (with a few selfmade
scripts) then debian
is real good to maintain without debianizing every package that i
installed on my
machine. Thanks :-)


Mac





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Re: (smail + pine) reply-to?

1998-03-10 Thread dg
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote:

 I have a local lan connected to the Internet through a Pipe 50.  The
 domain I use is real but the domain is NOT routed on the internet right
 now.  I would like to use smail + pine to send messages.  This setup is
 currently working but I would like the reply-to action for these
 messages to read my ACTUAL email address.
 
 Example:  twist.lucidity.org-- msg sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   if this person hits reply to this msg it
   will be undeliverable because lucidity.org
   is not routed on the internet.
 
 How can I make the reply action on the receivers end to show a different
 email than the address from which I sent it?

Two ways - as some other mentioned, you can configure PINE with the
customized-hdrs option or you can use smail to rewrite your outgoing
headers.

I posted the header rewriting solution yesterday, but only on the german
Mailing list.

Here's how the header rewriting works:

First, add this router to your /etc/smail/routers file:

smart_host:
driver=smarthost, transport=smtp-remap;
path=mail.bingo.baynet.de

Next, you have to add the reffered transport in /etc/smail/transports:

smtp-remap:
driver=tcpsmtp, max_addrs=100, -max_chars, inet,
remove_header=From,
insert_header=From: ${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ($from: $fullname)}},
remove_header=Message-ID,
insert_header=Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
insert_header=Sender: ${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ($from: $fullname)}};
use_bind, defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames

Here you have to replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your primary eMail address
for the case, that the sender could not be matched with the reffered from
map. Create the from map as /etc/smail/maps/from, it should look something
like that

root[EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
dg  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Gross)
manu[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manuela Gross)
 
This means, that every local user is matched to an external eMail address.

Test it, and mail me if you have any problems.

Bye

Daniel Gross

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ftp via squid proxy

1998-03-10 Thread Lindsay Allen

Is this possible?  

My ISP does not allow direct ftp any more.  Ftp via lynx works if I use
his proxy , but I want to use ncftp and mc.  Any hints or advice welcomed.

Lindsay
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Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!

1998-03-10 Thread jdassen
On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 01:58:29PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 02:01:10PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
 I just installed Raima's Velocis Server 2.0 on an up-to-date hamm
 machine.  The binaries do not run (segfault), and when I run ldd I
 get this:
  
  This means that there is an upstream problem.  If you do not sources,
  there is nothing you can do but complain.
 
 Any idea what they could have done to cause this?  They are working with
 the developer right now to try to come up with a solution.  They're
 running RedHat.

It could be that their binaries or libraries have been linked with -rpath
(causing the directory search path to be hardwired into binaries); this has
caused problems with Red Hat / Triteal CDE on a hamm system.

You can use objdump --all-headers on the binaries and libraries to check
if there's an RPATH setting.

HTH,
Ray
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sendmail local delivery problem

1998-03-10 Thread M K Pai

We are running a LAN. E-mail clients are Win95 Eudora. Mail Server is a
Linux box running sendmail 8.8.8. We have a server in USA from where
external mail is routed to our linux box. 

The problem is that even local mail is being routed to the USA server and
then coming to the respective mailbox, whereas it should be delivered
locally instead of going to the USA server.

Please help.

Thank you in advance.
M. K. Pai
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Rajesh Mittal
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Re: uname -a question

1998-03-10 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Norris) writes:

 When I run uname -a,I get a line like the following:
 
  Linux glitch 2.0.33 #1 Thu Mar 5 17:47:54 CST 1998 i686 unknown
 
 I was just curious what the unknown portion refers to.  The man/info
 page seems to indicate that the -a option is equivilent to -snrvm,
 but when invoked in that fashion I don't get the unknown part.

I would say the info page is out of date.  The unknown is coming
from -p, which must make sense on some non-Intel systems (probably
Sparcs, anyway).  I don't have any to test it on, though.

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Hamm on Sunsite

1998-03-10 Thread Arunas Norvaisa
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  Does anybody know the reason why Sunsite is not mirroring
hamm stuff? It could be so much easier for the world to test
unstable versions with Sunsite involved...



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Re: Mostly fresh start install?

1998-03-10 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, T-SNAKE wrote:

 I want to mostly start anew with my install, since I think during my software
 install, I hit some wierd button accidentally and it FLEW through a bunch of
 prompted questions and I think totally screwed sendmail... so I'm gonna start
 over. BUT, I'm not sure what the best way to proceed is.
 

Why not just de-install sendmail and then re-install it again. If you
de-install it you may see messages about x,not why not, etc. Ignore those
and just install. - Try this first before you throw the baby with the
bath.
 
/---/
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Re: Remote Printer Refuses to print

1998-03-10 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Dr. Karl-Wilhelm Schulte wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 05:33:18PM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote:
  I have set up a printer on a Debian Linux box and I have a tough time
 # services of this machine.  See lpd(8).
 machinex.where.iam
 machiney.where.iam
 
Thank you. This was my problem. etc/hosts.lpd does not want ip numbers but
FQDNs. I did that and the machine started printing. I am coming up agains
a lot of stuff that is not fully specified. I could not believe when the
whole thing started working.

I guess that is why the Debian list-group is so useful. 
/---/
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autoup.sh

1998-03-10 Thread Henry Hollenberg

After running autoup.sh where do I point dselect to complete the hamm
upgrade from 1.3.1.

Thanks

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New mailing list debian-pilot created

1998-03-10 Thread Martin Schulze
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Re: Tcl/Tk source ?

1998-03-10 Thread Markus Lechner
Yep, that's it :-)

Many thanks.

Mac



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Wish To try Debian using DiD

1998-03-10 Thread Ahmed Nelson




Hi, 
I am a would be convert to the linux fraternity 
and would like to try my hand at debian.

Would you tell me precisely which directory/ies 
and file I have to down load using ftp to get DiD- Drop in Debian. Also I would 
appreciate any relevant documentation regarding the same.


Regards.
Emmanuel.


Formating a ftape tape?

1998-03-10 Thread servis

Is there any way to format a Qic-80 tape on a ftape device?  I don't
feel like rebooting to Win95 just to do this. I know I can use mt to
'erase' the tape but that just erases the header on the tape.  

Thanks.
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Re: autoup.sh

1998-03-10 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:

 After running autoup.sh where do I point dselect to complete the hamm
 upgrade from 1.3.1.

Where you first used stable, contrib and non-free, now use
dists/unstable/main, dists/unstable/contrib and
dists/unstable/non-free. The rest is the same.

Remco


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Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!

1998-03-10 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 09:32:48AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 01:58:29PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 02:01:10PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
  I just installed Raima's Velocis Server 2.0 on an up-to-date hamm
  machine.  The binaries do not run (segfault), and when I run ldd I
  get this:
   
   This means that there is an upstream problem.  If you do not sources,
   there is nothing you can do but complain.
  
  Any idea what they could have done to cause this?  They are working with
  the developer right now to try to come up with a solution.  They're
  running RedHat.
 
 It could be that their binaries or libraries have been linked with -rpath
 (causing the directory search path to be hardwired into binaries); this has
 caused problems with Red Hat / Triteal CDE on a hamm system.
 
 You can use objdump --all-headers on the binaries and libraries to check
 if there's an RPATH setting.

There is no rpath.  This is a message I got back from their tech support
people.  Can anyone think of a workaround?  I hate to go back to bo.

-- cut here --

Hello Jeff,

I'm afraid I don't have a good answer for you.  We have had a similar
problem with Red Hat 5.0 and the following statement was made by our
development manager:

This release 2.0.XXX of Velocis will *not* be compatible with libc.6
(glibc-2) based Linux releases such as Red Hat 5.0.  Because of the
drastic nature of the changes to libc (and indirectly the thread
library) in these versions, applications built to be compatbile with the
earlier versions of Linux, such as 4.2, must continue to use the set of
dynamic libraries included with libc.5 on previous Linuxes.  However,
because libpthread.0.5 and libpthread.0.6 cannot usefully coexist on the
same system (since they have the same major version number) and
libpthread.0.6 is linked to libc.6, the set of libraries needed by
Velocis is not completely provided by the backward compatibility set of
libraries.  While this problem could probably have been worked around by
a change in the linkage of some libraries to Velocis, it would have been
of minimal value.  This is the case because Velocis libraries are
'libc.5' libraries themselves and any database application requiring
them would have to be built in a complete 'libc.5' development
environment (i.e., compiler configuration, include files, libraries).
While some piecemeal upgraded systems may have such a configuration, the
distributions of the new versions of Linux (e.g., Red Hat 5.0) do not
appear to include all the necessary components.

Because of the drastic nature of the changes to libc as well as the
substantial changes to headers and threading support incorporated in the
newest versions of Linux, converting a large and complicated application
such as Velocis to it and assuring its quality are not a trivial
exercise, even disregarding the inevitable problems in such a
substantially modified OS environment early in its own release cycle.
It is Raima's goal to provide a high quality and usable product.  Our
evaluation of the above factors augmented by experiments with Red Hat
5.0 indicated that it would not be possible to meet these goals within
the timeline of this release.  

It is our intention to have a libc.6 compatible version available with
the next release of Velocis.

In addition, I checked specifically with our Linux guru, and got this
reply:

This is pretty much the same problem that was originally affecting us
on Red Hat 5.0.
If for whatever reason the dynamic linker thinks you are linked to two
different versions
of libc, you die and die very early.  As with Red Hat 5.0, unless the
customer has a
complete libc5 environment on his system (compilers, libraries,
includes, etc.) he
might as well not mess with it as he will be heading into the same
morass that brought
the Red Hat 5.0 customer to a stop.  If he does by some chance have the
full libc5
environment, this problem can probably be worked around, possible by
messing
with the dynamic library path.

It may be that the Debian versions of the libc libraries are not so
incompatible, but we cannot test that ourselves.  My only other
suggestion at this point would be to continue the evaluation on another
platform.  Scott Meder indicated to me that you also run with AIX, as
well as Windows/NT.  Both of these are included on the evaluation CD.

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Re: autoup.sh

1998-03-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 After running autoup.sh where do I point dselect to complete the hamm
 upgrade from 1.3.1.

 This is not really appropriate for the developers list, so I have
dropped that list from the address.

 From the Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO, by Scott K. Ellis:

  4.5.  Upgrading to unstable by FTP

  The directory structure of the ftp site has been slightly modified,
  placing the contrib and non-free sections of the archive alongside the
  main section, to avoid contrib and non-free getting out of sync with
  earlier portions of the archives.  You must have dpkg-ftp_1.4.9 or
  greater to update your machine using dpkg-ftp.  If you are updating
  your machine via ftp, the proper information to give dpkg-ftp is:

  o  Enter debian directory: /debian

  o  Enter space seperated list of distributions to get:
 dists/unstable/main dists/unstable/non-free dists/unstable/contrib
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Re: Remote Printer Refuses to print

1998-03-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Daniel Mashao wrote:

 On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Dr. Karl-Wilhelm Schulte wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 05:33:18PM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote:
   I have set up a printer on a Debian Linux box and I have a tough time
  # services of this machine.  See lpd(8).
  machinex.where.iam
  machiney.where.iam
  
 Thank you. This was my problem. etc/hosts.lpd does not want ip numbers but
 FQDNs. I did that and the machine started printing. I am coming up agains
 a lot of stuff that is not fully specified. I could not believe when the
 whole thing started working.

Actually it doesn't need a FQDN, just a name that it can resolve from
/etc/hosts.  It works just fine for me with a local nickname for another
machine on my lan. 

Bob

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Re: Wish To try Debian using DiD

1998-03-10 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Ahmed Nelson wrote:

 Hi, 
 I am a would be convert to the linux fraternity and would like to try my hand 
 at debian.
 
 Would you tell me precisely which directory/ies and file I have to down load 
 using ftp to get DiD- Drop in Debian. Also I would appreciate any relevant 
 documentation regarding the same.

I've only seen this on Dale's CD's.  I don't think it's available on a ftp
site (one of those value added things that encourages you to order cd's
from him).  If you want to order one, try [EMAIL PROTECTED].

HTH,
Brandon

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installing debian problem

1998-03-10 Thread kaiwei
what is a image file?
in the inital boot medium, i use loadlin to boot install from a dos system.
i used the command:- loadlin linux root=dev/ram initrd=root.bin
but i got a error message of:-
not a image file
please enter name of kernel image file followed by optional commmand line
parametersf for linux

the linux file i got was from the debian ftp site. (normal linux file)

also i'm using win95 also. if i install debian, can i keep it  use it too?
will it affect it in anyway.  i have set aside a empty partition of 1 gb
free for debian. is it enough? how do u create a swap partition? from the
same partition? i spent 3 days working on this  i still can't get it to work.

please help me  explain to me in plain english how to install linux?!!!

P.S do anyone of u know if red hat or debian can be bought in southeast
asia(singapore)?


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Pine From: address

1998-03-10 Thread Chris


Hi,

I am using pine (from the debian distribution), and I would like to know
how to set the return address (instead of the standard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]).

I have an alias on that machine which is the address I use most often, and
I would like my email to list that as the from address.  Does anyone know
how to do this?

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: Pine From: address

1998-03-10 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Chris wrote:

 I have an alias on that machine which is the address I use most often, and
 I would like my email to list that as the from address.  Does anyone know
 how to do this?

If your username on the local machine is the same as the username in the
email address, then just insert the email domain into user-domain in the
pine config screen.

Greg

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Re: Mostly fresh start install?

1998-03-10 Thread T-SNAKE
  prompted questions and I think totally screwed sendmail... so I'm
  gonna start over. BUT, I'm not sure what the best way to proceed is.
 Why not just de-install sendmail and then re-install it again. If you
 de-install it you may see messages about x,not why not, etc. Ignore
 those and just install. - Try this first before you throw the baby 
 with the bath.

Sounds smart, if the other option of re-running the post-install script
doesn't work, BUT how does one de-install sendmail? Is this a dselect
activity? Do I just de-install sendmail* or are there lots of files I gotta
take out? Also, what do I do when dselect bitches about dependancies (assuming
it will)?
Thanks,
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Re: Formating a ftape tape?

1998-03-10 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
 
 Is there any way to format a Qic-80 tape on a ftape device?  I don't
 feel like rebooting to Win95 just to do this. I know I can use mt to
 'erase' the tape but that just erases the header on the tape.  

As far as I am aware then you can not use Linux to format these tapes,  this
may of course depend on what tape drive you are using, I used a dos based tape
formatting program to do my tapes with, I think you can format them using
dosemu but I'm not sure.  

But checkout the ftape howto that may answer you question better than I can.

Graham

 
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Re: Formating a ftape tape?

1998-03-10 Thread servis
On 10 Mar, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:
 
 Is there any way to format a Qic-80 tape on a ftape device?  I don't
 feel like rebooting to Win95 just to do this. I know I can use mt to
 'erase' the tape but that just erases the header on the tape.  
 
 As far as I am aware then you can not use Linux to format these tapes,  this
 may of course depend on what tape drive you are using, I used a dos based tape
 formatting program to do my tapes with, I think you can format them using
 dosemu but I'm not sure.  
 
 But checkout the ftape howto that may answer you question better than I can.
 
 Graham

Sorry, I should have checked the HOWTO first, jeez...


  4.8.  Can I format my tapes under Linux?


  No!


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default blanking

1998-03-10 Thread tko
I know that this has been asked before, but please refresh my memory...

The default screen blanking is shutting off the X windows display preventing
the long term usage of the screen savers. How do I disable the console default
blanking so that I can use the screen savers instead? Thanks.

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Re: Deb Testing Group needs test dummies

1998-03-10 Thread Jaakko Niemi
  - Do you want to use your computer for world domination?

 Sorry to tell you, but it will be the penguins that will rule the 
 world through 'puters. :)
 
 Woops, forget that last one, I've reserved it for myself.  Basically, we
 try the upgrade and base disk, see if the programs work, and submit bug
 reports along with testing reports.
 
 How to join?  Just send me an e-mail letting me know what you want to do
 (nothing big, e.g. I can try the upgrade and let you know how it goes).
 Soon after, you should be added to the mailing list (it's low volume).

 I'm already running hamm here at home, and so far found that all the bugs
 I've found have already been reported. But I have access to few machines, 
 including the one at work that could use a fresh install. The only problem 
 is that I would need a cd, from which install (I'm waiting for an isdn line to
 work... ). Prefered would be if someone in here Finland would burn couple 
 of them. I've got also lotsa old cd's from pre 1.0 to 1.3.1 so I will try 
upgrading
 also if only there is enough time.

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netscape install

1998-03-10 Thread tko
I am ready to install netscape on my system, but have a problem. The netscape
loader is for version 3.01. ftp.netscape.com only has version 3.04 or the
newer communicator 4.0x versions. Version 3.01 is not available. My system is
a bo (1.3.1) system. What can I do to get netscape installed?

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Re: Formating a ftape tape?

1998-03-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
Ftape-3.04d includes the ftformat command.  I have installed it from
source, but there is now a .deb package, at least in hamm.   The man page
indicates it will format QIC-80 tapes, but I haven't done that.

Bob

On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:

  
  Is there any way to format a Qic-80 tape on a ftape device?  I don't
  feel like rebooting to Win95 just to do this. I know I can use mt to
  'erase' the tape but that just erases the header on the tape.  
 
 As far as I am aware then you can not use Linux to format these tapes,  this
 may of course depend on what tape drive you are using, I used a dos based tape
 formatting program to do my tapes with, I think you can format them using
 dosemu but I'm not sure.  
 
 But checkout the ftape howto that may answer you question better than I can.
 
 Graham

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Re: default blanking

1998-03-10 Thread Steve Mayer
tko,

  setterm -blank 0

Steve Mayer
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 I know that this has been asked before, but please refresh my memory...
 
 The default screen blanking is shutting off the X windows display preventing
 the long term usage of the screen savers. How do I disable the console default
 blanking so that I can use the screen savers instead? Thanks.
 
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Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!

1998-03-10 Thread jdassen
On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 08:44:33AM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote:
 There is no rpath.  This is a message I got back from their tech support
 people.  Can anyone think of a workaround?  I hate to go back to bo.
 
 -- cut here --
[...
 However, because libpthread.0.5 and libpthread.0.6 cannot usefully coexist
 on the same system (since they have the same major version number) and
 libpthread.0.6 is linked to libc.6, the set of libraries needed by Velocis
 is not completely provided by the backward compatibility set of libraries.
 While this problem could probably have been worked around by a change in
 the linkage of some libraries to Velocis,

I suspect this means: link the required libc5 pthread in statically. 

 it would have been of minimal value.  This is the case because Velocis
 libraries are 'libc.5' libraries themselves and any database application
 requiring them would have to be built in a complete 'libc.5' development
 environment (i.e., compiler configuration, include files, libraries).
 While some piecemeal upgraded systems may have such a configuration, the
 distributions of the new versions of Linux (e.g., Red Hat 5.0) do not
 appear to include all the necessary components.

I disagree with this statement. Debian 2.0 will have packages to run
_and develop_ libc5 binaries. If Red Hat doesn't, that's their problem.
Debian users should not suffer because of Red Hat developer's decisions 
to omit this capability.

HTH,
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Re: Mostly fresh start install?

1998-03-10 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, T-SNAKE wrote:

   prompted questions and I think totally screwed sendmail... so I'm
   gonna start over. BUT, I'm not sure what the best way to proceed is.
  Why not just de-install sendmail and then re-install it again. If you
  de-install it you may see messages about x,not why not, etc. Ignore
  those and just install. - Try this first before you throw the baby 
  with the bath.
 
 Sounds smart, if the other option of re-running the post-install script
 doesn't work, BUT how does one de-install sendmail? Is this a dselect
 activity? Do I just de-install sendmail* or are there lots of files I gotta
 take out? Also, what do I do when dselect bitches about dependancies (assuming
 it will)?
 Thanks,
No just dpkg --remove sendmail and it probably will refuse claiming that
app 1 depends on sendmail and app1 is installed, etc.

Then next do dpkg --install sendmailX.Y.deb, where X and Y refers to the
numbers of the sendmail deb file. Sendmail should install and then you can
play with options.

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Re: ftp via squid proxy

1998-03-10 Thread Ian Eure
Find a new ISP :)

Lindsay Allen wrote:

 Is this possible?

 My ISP does not allow direct ftp any more.  Ftp via lynx works if I use
 his proxy , but I want to use ncftp and mc.  Any hints or advice welcomed.

 Lindsay
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modutils is broken?

1998-03-10 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

Is the version modutils-2.1.85 broken? I was told, by a technical
support guy, that this version had problems removing modules (which
I'm having), and he suggested to donwgrade to modutils-2.1.55.

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Re: Pine From: address

1998-03-10 Thread Ian Keith Setford
 I am using pine (from the debian distribution), and I would like to know
 how to set the return address (instead of the standard
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Open Pine, go to Setup---Config and down to customized-headers.  Hit A to
ADD and entry, the type what you would like your return address(reply-to
address) in this form: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (but enter
it without the quotes.  Now when you send people an email from your
machine with your Debian box's username and address they can hit reply and
it will reply to the address you just added in customized-headers.


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missing package emacs19

1998-03-10 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

After struggling to downgrade some packages I needed to fix a
situation when I tried to upgrade w3-el, but cannot upgrade emacs to
version 20, I found several messages where the package emacs19 is
mentioned, as an alternative to emacs20.

But I can't seem to find this package anywhere! Is this package
missing? 

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Re: netscape install

1998-03-10 Thread Jens Ritter
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 I am ready to install netscape on my system, but have a problem. The netscape
 loader is for version 3.01. ftp.netscape.com only has version 3.04 or the
 newer communicator 4.0x versions. Version 3.01 is not available. My system is
 a bo (1.3.1) system. What can I do to get netscape installed?

have a look into bo-updates on the ftp archive.

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Re: Help! Binaries link both libc5+libc6!

1998-03-10 Thread Jeff Noxon
Thanks for your comments!

I was able to fix the problem by installing libpthread.so.5 in a special
directory and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

Jeff


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Re: missing package emacs19

1998-03-10 Thread Ben Pfaff
   After struggling to downgrade some packages I needed to fix a
   situation when I tried to upgrade w3-el, but cannot upgrade emacs to
   version 20, I found several messages where the package emacs19 is
   mentioned, as an alternative to emacs20.

   But I can't seem to find this package anywhere! Is this package
   missing? 

It's not available yet, but should be uploaded before the 2.0 freeze.


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Re: default blanking

1998-03-10 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 tko,
 
   setterm -blank 0
 
 Steve Mayer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I know that this has been asked before, but please refresh my
  memory...  The default screen blanking is shutting off the X
  windows display preventing the long term usage of the screen
  savers. How do I disable the console default blanking so that I can
  use the screen savers instead? Thanks.

No, what you want is xset s off - the setterm line is for text
consoles.  (The blanking of the X screen is not actually the same as
the blanking that happens on text consoles).  While you're looking at
that, you may want to check out xset +dpms - a better blanking for
power-saving monitors.  (test it with xset dpms force standby)  As
always, the man page (for xset) will give you more information.


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Re: Mostly fresh start install?

1998-03-10 Thread Jens Ritter
T-SNAKE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   prompted questions and I think totally screwed sendmail... so I'm
   gonna start over. BUT, I'm not sure what the best way to proceed is.
  Why not just de-install sendmail and then re-install it again. If you
  de-install it you may see messages about x,not why not, etc. Ignore
  those and just install. - Try this first before you throw the baby 
  with the bath.
 
 Sounds smart, if the other option of re-running the post-install script
 doesn't work, BUT how does one de-install sendmail? Is this a dselect

dpkg -r --force* or --ignore*
(See what dpkg --help or --force-help gives).

 activity? Do I just de-install sendmail* or are there lots of files I gotta
 take out? Also, what do I do when dselect bitches about dependancies (assuming
 it will)?

As long as you didnĀ“t hit Ctrl-C everything up to the configuration
should have worked. 

Just download sendmail*.deb and do dpkg -i sendmail*deb. This should
replace the previous installed one, without complaining about
dependencies.

First try running sendmailconfig as root. 

Jens

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Re: How do you e2defrag?

1998-03-10 Thread Nelson Posse Lago
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Mark Phillips wrote:

 I have debian installed on a single partition, a partition which
 I suspect is greatly fragmented (is there an easy way to tell?).  I wish
 to use the program e2defrag to defragment it, but have realized this could
 be more difficult than I first thought.

Linux usually is smart enough to prevent partitions from being too
fragmented, so defragmenting is usually unecessary; if you run e2fsck -n,
it will not alter your filesystem in any way (so you don't need to umount
it first) and report the fragmentation. From my box, which has been nearly
full and has not been defrag'd since it was born several months ago:

/dev/hda1: 35420/266240 files (6.0% non-contiguous), 801757/1064416 blocks

 I see that the partition will need to be dismounted first, which puts me
 in a catch 22 situation.

Try going into single-user mode (init S); then 'mount -n o,remount,ro /'
so the filesystem is  read-only. After defragmenting,
'mount -n -o,remount,rw /' and init 2 to go back to multi-user mode.
NOTE: This is all theoretical, meaning I've never tried it by myself.
Specially the init S doesn't seem to do exactly what I expected...

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web interface

1998-03-10 Thread Paul McDermott
hello everybody, I was wondering if anyone new of a good web interface for
the postgres database project.  It does not look like Debian has one.  Any
one have any ideas.
Paul



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Re: web interface

1998-03-10 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Paul McDermott wrote:

 hello everybody, I was wondering if anyone new of a good web interface for
 the postgres database project.  It does not look like Debian has one.  Any
 one have any ideas.

php3 is a good one. version 3.0b6 is in hamm now. the pgsql module is in a
separate package called php3-pgsql.

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Re: Formating a ftape tape?

1998-03-10 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10 Mar, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:
  Is there any way to format a Qic-80 tape on a ftape device?
 
 Sorry, I should have checked the HOWTO first, jeez...
 
   4.8.  Can I format my tapes under Linux?
 
   No!

 Actually, yes, the latest ftape drivers can format tapes. I don't have a 
URL handy, I'm afraid, but it can be done.

 Sincerely,

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Re: New mailing list debian-pilot created

1998-03-10 Thread bruce
 GPL works

I mean GCC. I'm tired.

Bruce


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Re: JAZ Problems.

1998-03-10 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Corey Miller wrote:

   I have an iomega JAZ (1GB) drive, using a SCSI card based around
 the NCR53c406a chipset. I got everything (seemingly) working fine, but I
 frequently get errors like the following whenever I read or write to the
 drive. I only have the one disk that came w/ the drive. 
 
 Mar  2 23:51:51 mstie kernel: scsi0: MEDIUM ERROR on channel 0, id 4, 
 lun 0, CDB: 0x03 00 00 00 10 00
 Mar  2 23:51:51 mstie kernel: Current error sd08:04: sns = f0  3
 Mar  2 23:51:51 mstie kernel: ASC=11 ASCQ= 0
 Mar  2 23:51:51 mstie kernel: Raw sense data:0xf0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x11
 0x74 0x0a 0x11 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x11 0x00 0x00 0x00
 Mar  2 23:51:51 mstie kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:04, sector
 1143786, absolute sector 1143818
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated,

 A MEDIUM ERROR is a problem with the disk media itself. On the face of 
it, it seems like you've got a bad disk. Have you been getting more and 
more of these? That's usually a sure sign that the disk is wearing out 
and will soon be completely useless.

 Do you get this error when reading particular files? If you can't read 
the file one time and you can read it another time, there's a chance that 
it's software, I suppose.

 Sincerely,

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Re: Formating a ftape tape?

1998-03-10 Thread servis
Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
 
 On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 10 Mar, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:
   Is there any way to format a Qic-80 tape on a ftape device?
 
  Sorry, I should have checked the HOWTO first, jeez...
 
4.8.  Can I format my tapes under Linux?
 
No!
 
  Actually, yes, the latest ftape drivers can format tapes. I don't have a
 URL handy, I'm afraid, but it can be done.
 

Yep, I found it. It is at Sunsite.  Does anybody know if the latest
ftape drivers are in the latest kernels and if the programs ftformat,
etc, are making it into some Debian package.  I downloaded the source
but I don't want to create trouble if I don't have to.

Brian


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Getting Mail From POP3 Servers

1998-03-10 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
Hello all

I'm still trying to get smail working like I want, but I think I am nearly
there thanks to all your help.

But I have another question.

How can I get my internet mail to my mail server from my isp's pop3 server, so
that my promailrc file will filter all my mail both internet and local, I am
currently using fetchmail to do this but it doesn't seem to use procmail so all
my internet mail is getting placed in /var/spool/mail/username is there away
to do this or will I have to use something like UUCP or IMAP.  I don't think
UUCP will work though as my ISP is using Windows NT 4.

Thanks again for the help will smail.

Regards

Graham.


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Re: Formating a ftape tape?

1998-03-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
:  
:  On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:  
:   On 10 Mar, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:
:Is there any way to format a Qic-80 tape on a ftape device?
:  
:   Sorry, I should have checked the HOWTO first, jeez...
:  
: 4.8.  Can I format my tapes under Linux?
:  
: No!
:  
:   Actually, yes, the latest ftape drivers can format tapes. I don't have a
:  URL handy, I'm afraid, but it can be done.
:  
: 
: Yep, I found it. It is at Sunsite.  Does anybody know if the latest
: ftape drivers are in the latest kernels and if the programs ftformat,
: etc, are making it into some Debian package.  I downloaded the source
: but I don't want to create trouble if I don't have to.
: 
: Brian

There is an ftape-module package in hamm.  It looks to be the latest
version, with the ability to format tapes.

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19900310 Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1998-03-10 Thread wnpp

  Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
   
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   This document is intended to identify areas that need your
   contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
   often, so it supplements the regular Debian Developer documentation:
   [1]http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.html. This document
   provides the current list of packages which are either:
   
 * orphaned,
 * withdrawn from the unstable distribution,
 * maintained but its developer would like to find a new person,
 * currently being worked on to include in the distribution, and
 * good ideas -- they would be nice to have, but no one is yet
   working on them.
   
   New versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:
   
 * [2]http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html
 * [3]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.txt
 * [4]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.html
   
   Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP
   maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Please mention which version of this
   document your comments refer.
   
   Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're
   talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all Re:
   Work-Needing and Prospective Packages emails. A suggested subject
   line reads WNPP: removing foopackage or WNPP: working on
   barpackage. Thanks.
   
 _
   
Recent Changes
   
Since version 1998/03/02

 * The printop, cracklib, urlview, OTP, stella, zile, and xtrs
   packages are now uploaded.
   
   Packages needing a new maintainer
 * The zoo compressor (non-free) and the regex library (libc5-compat)
   are now orphaned.
   
   Packages adopted
 * The vtprint and bind packages are adopted by Rich Sahlender
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The berolist list manager is adopted by Jonathon D. Nelson
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC Slimer).
 * The jail package is adopted by Jay Kominek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The NCSA webserver is adopted by Adam Klein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The wnorwegian dictionary is adopted by Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   
   Packages being created
 * The snes9x Super Nintendo emulator is being packaged by Robert
   Edmonds ([EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC stu).
 * Mirrordir is being packaged by James R. Van Zandt
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The aview ascii-art browser is being packaged by Joey Hess
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * Enskip, a security module for the TCP/IP stack, is being packaged
   by Jean Pierre LeJacq ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * FCT, a web based firewall configuration tool, is being packaged by
   Hubert Weikert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The NoSQL RDMS is being packaged by David Frey
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   
   Packages someone could package
 * A separate pstogif package, since the binary is currently buried
   inside xemacs19, xemacs20, latex2html, and sdc.
 * The sound-recorder 0.02 in Sunsite's incoming, which doesn't
   require CDDA to work.
   
   The xscreensaver package was incorrectly listed as orphaned.
   
 _
   
   Orphaned packages
   
   An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.
   Please inform the WNPP maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) via e-mail:
   
 * when you find that you need to orphan a package,
 * when you believe that the following list is incomplete, or
 * when you would like to maintain one of these packages.
   
   The following packages are orphaned:
   
   By the Debian QA Group (debian-qa@lists.debian.org):
   
 * 9wm -- An emulation of the Plan 9 window manager 8-1/2
 * bibindex -- fast lookup in BibTeX bibliography data bases
 * mcvert -- Tool to deal with specially encoded Macintosh files
   (non-free)
 * pari -- A package for number theorists (non-free)
 * paridoc -- The documentation and examples for the PARI system
   (non-free)
 * rc -- An implementation of the ATT Plan 9 shell.
 * sam -- A plan9 derived text editor
 * ucbmpeg -- MPEG video encoder and analysis tools (non-free)
 * ucbmpeg-play -- Software-only MPEG video player (non-free)
 * xabacus -- Implementation of the classic Chinese abacus
 * xbattle -- A concurrent multi-player battle strategy game
 * xmcpustate -- Displays CPU/Swap/Memory/Network load
   
   By James Troup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * zoo -- 

Re: Getting Mail From POP3 Servers

1998-03-10 Thread Will Lowe
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:

 How can I get my internet mail to my mail server from my isp's pop3 server, so
 that my promailrc file will filter all my mail both internet and local, I am
 currently using fetchmail to do this but it doesn't seem to use procmail so 
 all
 my internet mail is getting placed in /var/spool/mail/username is there away
Sure.  You can specify a delivery agent in the .fetchmailrc file with 
the mda option.

Alternatively,  set up fetchmail to drop mail in
/var/spool/mail/username and make yourself a .forward that looks like
this:
|IFS=' '  exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #harpo
where harpo is your username.  This is what I do -- simpler to let
fetchmail deliver everything by the normal smail routes and let smail
forward it on to procmail.

Will

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Re: web interface

1998-03-10 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Paul McDermott wrote:

 hello everybody, I was wondering if anyone new of a good web interface for
 the postgres database project.  It does not look like Debian has one.  Any
 one have any ideas.
 Paul

There is a commercial package that I have used for our departmental web
page (www.iit.edu/~bcps).  It is called Portable Publishing and it is
written by a company called Outlook Technologies (www.outlook.net).  I do
not know the current cost.

I looked at other options and did not find them too useful, one which has 
a Debian package is PHP.  

Cheers,

Carlo



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Re: Smail/Sendmail Question

1998-03-10 Thread mfrattola
 Hi,
 mfrattola == mfrattola  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 mfrattola Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't this rewrite 'From' for every
 mfrattola message, and not only for those 'going out' of his LAN?
 mfrattola Also, doesn't confDELIVERY_MODE=queue queue all messages
 mfrattola and wait for runq to make the delivery?
 
   Umm, I think not. let me see. 
 __
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 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 by tiamat.datasync.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id CAA09080
 for root; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:16:07 -0600
 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:16:07 -0600
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   See? No rewrite for local mail.

Yes, but as somebody else pointed out, this is for mail bound to localhost.
What happens if I'm on a.mynet.org and I write to b.mynet.org? I think
sendmail doesn't see this is a local (internal LAN) address and rewrites
its header like with any other internet bound message. Or so I think, since
my other home machine is down (being used my windows-sister).
I think I tried it (in the early days) and found I could not stop rewriting.

   As to the other question, yes, the confDELIVERY_MODE=queue
  queues  all messages. My bad.
 
   The solution is to make all mailers except the local one
  expensive. 

Am I right in thinking local is used only for localhost bound mail?
Where does all this magic come from? Do I have to hand edit sendmail.conf by
hand? (any m4 shortcut?)

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 __ egrep ^M /etc/sendmail.cf
 Mlocal,   P=/usr/sbin/sensible-mda, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qh90, S=10/30, 
 R=20/40,
 Mprog,P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/,
 Msmtp,P=[IPC], F=emDFMuX, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990,
 Mesmtp,   P=[IPC], F=emDFMuXa, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990,
 Msmtp8,   P=[IPC], F=emDFMuX8, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990,
 Mrelay,   P=[IPC], F=emDFMuXa8, S=11/31, R=61, E=\r\n, L=2040,
 --
   Notice the flag (F) e? it is not there for local or prog
  mailers, but is there for all smtp or esmtp mailers, and hence the
  non-local mail should wait for the queue run, but the local mail is
  delivered immediately.
 
   This is untried; but it should work.

Thank you for your answer. It seems to me (from other messages) that smail is
easier to manage WRT this problem (with routers, directors and the like). 
Problem is I don't like smail (and recent problems with newer smail don't make
me like it more). What I'd like sendmail to do is:

localhost mail  deliver locally don't rewrite header
LAN maildeliver thru eth0   don't rewrite header
internet mail   deliver thru ppp0   rewrite header

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Re: installing debian problem

1998-03-10 Thread David Stern
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:10:10 +0800, kaiwei wrote:
 what is a image file?

It's an image of a disk (each track is copied, even if empty).  To 
use it, you'll need the utility rawrite.exe, which can be found in 
the /dosutils directory.  Read the README file which accompanies it for 
more info.

 in the inital boot medium, i use loadlin to boot install from a dos system.
 i used the command:- loadlin linux root=dev/ram initrd=root.bin
 but i got a error message of:-
 not a image file
 please enter name of kernel image file followed by optional commmand line
 parametersf for linux
 the linux file i got was from the debian ftp site. (normal linux file)

I have no practical experience with loadlin.

 also i'm using win95 also. if i install debian, can i keep it  use it too?
 will it affect it in anyway.  i have set aside a empty partition of 1 gb
 free for debian. is it enough? how do u create a swap partition? from the
 same partition? i spent 3 days working on this  i still can't get it to work

What I recommend is to put the lilo on the Linux / (i.e.: the root 
partition). By default, lilo installs onto the MasterBootRecord, where 
the win95 boot record lives.  If you accept this option, it will write 
over your win95 bootloader.  There may be a backup copy of the MBR you 
can restore (or not, depending), but if you put lilo on the linux root 
partition, each bootloader has it's own space.  Then you can make an 
entry for win95 in the lilo menu, so you won't need to change the 
bootable partition under ordinary conditions.  Don't forget to flag the 
lilo partition as bootable.

You create all your partitions during installation using the Linux 
fdisk utility, which has some built-in help. Here are some docs which 
thoroughly cover installation:

  Installing Debian
  ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/stable/disks-i386/current/install.html

  Debian Linux User's Guide
  http://www.linuxpress.com/001001.htm

  Debian Installation and Getting Started
  http://www.ssc.com/lg/issue15/debian.html

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kernel 2.0.33 smbfs bug

1998-03-10 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

there is a bug in kernel 2.0.33 which woes files' timestamp on mounted NT4
shares. There is already a bugfix patch, which seems to slip into 2.0.34.
kernel-source-2.0.33-2 didn't include this patch.

My questions:
 -shall I report this as bug or wait till kernel-*-2.0.34?
 -against what shall I file this bug?


Regards
 Rainer

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Debian Linux Cross Compiling

1998-03-10 Thread Robert_Floyd
 I am new to Debian Linux and I would like to know the following:
 
 Does Debian GNU/Linux have all the abilities of the GNU CC utilities 
 to cross compile to a Hitachi SH-1 microprocessor?
 
 If so, do I need to jump through some hoops to get my code to the SH-1 
 target with Debian GNU/Linux or is it very similiar to GNU?
 
 Thanks for any help on this.
 
 Robert F.


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Re: Debian Linux Cross Compiling

1998-03-10 Thread Scott Ellis
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am new to Debian Linux and I would like to know the following:
  
  Does Debian GNU/Linux have all the abilities of the GNU CC utilities 
  to cross compile to a Hitachi SH-1 microprocessor?
  
  If so, do I need to jump through some hoops to get my code to the SH-1 
  target with Debian GNU/Linux or is it very similiar to GNU?

Debian does not come with cross-compiling tools, since it is impossible to
anticipate the cross-compiling needs of our users.  You will have to build
a cross-compiling system yourself, the gcc and binutils packages from
your favorate gnu mirror (ftp.gnu.org is one) include directions on how to
build a cross-compiling suite.

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Proper X Server...

1998-03-10 Thread Jesus Duran

Greetings,

i have recently purchased a Diamond Stealth II S220.  i was wondering what
x-server to use.  I've tried a few from the debian site but to no avail. 
If it is elsewhere, i would appreciate the site's address.  It has 4MB
SGRAM and RAMDAC of 170MHz and a Rendition Verite V2100 controller.  

TIA,

jd?


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Cross Compilers Once More

1998-03-10 Thread Robert_Floyd
 Scott Responded:
 
 Debian does not come with cross-compiling tools, since it is 
 impossible to anticipate the cross-compiling needs of our users.  
 You will have to build a cross-compiling system yourself, the gcc 
 and binutils packages from your favorate gnu mirror (ftp.gnu.org is 
 one) include directions on how to build a cross-compiling suite.
 
 
 I have documentation from GNU containing various info on building and 
 installing a cross compiler, but all the info pertains to GNU 
 directories on where to install various libraries, start files, ect.
 
 Is there any faq or books for Debian that may give answers on where I 
 would install the components for building the cross compiler, or will 
 the GNU instructions work seamlessly with Debian Linux?
 
 Robert


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Re: Formating a ftape tape?

1998-03-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Sorry, I should have checked the HOWTO first, jeez...
 
 
   4.8.  Can I format my tapes under Linux?
 
 
   No!

That applies to the version of ftape which is included in the kernel.
ftape-3.04d, which is installed as modules, has this capability.  The
Ftape-HOWTO is in need of updating, obviously. 

From the FTAPE-FAQ:

  3.3.  Do I have to reboot to the DOS world to format tapes?

  Not if you are using the latest version of the Ftape drivers from  the
  Ftape Home Page.  To format a QIC-80, TR-1, TR-3, QICWide 3010 or 3020
  tape, make sure that the Ftape-format module is loaded and use the
  special version of the mt utility included with Ftape in the
  contrib/gnumt directory. Use the ftformat option with an optional
  argument that is interpreted as follows:

 ftmt ftformat 0
keep the existing header information, DON'T erase the tape prior
formatting it.

 ftmt ftformat 1
keep the existing header information and erase the tape prior
formatting it.

 ftmt ftformat 2
DON'T keep the existing header information, DON'T erase the
tape.

 ftmt ftformat 3
DON'T keep the existing header information, but erase the tape
prior to formatting it.

  ftformat without parameter is synonymous to ftformat 1 NOTE: Do
  not try to format Ditto 2GB tapes.



Bob

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Re: Cross Compilers Once More

1998-03-10 Thread Scott Ellis
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Scott Responded:
  
  Debian does not come with cross-compiling tools, since it is 
  impossible to anticipate the cross-compiling needs of our users.  
  You will have to build a cross-compiling system yourself, the gcc 
  and binutils packages from your favorate gnu mirror (ftp.gnu.org is 
  one) include directions on how to build a cross-compiling suite.
  
  
  I have documentation from GNU containing various info on building and 
  installing a cross compiler, but all the info pertains to GNU 
  directories on where to install various libraries, start files, ect.
  
  Is there any faq or books for Debian that may give answers on where I 
  would install the components for building the cross compiler, or will 
  the GNU instructions work seamlessly with Debian Linux?

No need to do anything special, installing your cross-compiler kit in
/usr/local will work fine.

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Re: netscape install

1998-03-10 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am ready to install netscape on my system, but have a problem. The netscape
 loader is for version 3.01. ftp.netscape.com only has version 3.04 or the
 newer communicator 4.0x versions. Version 3.01 is not available. My system is
 a bo (1.3.1) system. What can I do to get netscape installed?

The netscape3 and netscape4 packages in hamm also work for bo systems.
Install them by hand and it will work.

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Re: Getting Mail From POP3 Servers

1998-03-10 Thread Joerg Friedrich
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:

 Hello all
 
 I'm still trying to get smail working like I want, but I think I am nearly
 there thanks to all your help.
 
 But I have another question.
 
 How can I get my internet mail to my mail server from my isp's pop3 server, so
 that my promailrc file will filter all my mail both internet and local, I am


use a .forward-file.

.forward

|IFS=' '  exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #


with your userid for 
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Re: gcc problem

1998-03-10 Thread Igor Grobman


 My hamm system crashed and burned yesterday
 the problem was related to an accidently installe dpackage not
 unmounting filesystems properly on reboot
 in any case
 today I re-installed. I installed bo then I upgraded to hamm
 via autoup.sh and the CD I burned on 3-4-98
 then of course dselect and all...installed X etc...
 then I was about to re-build my kernel...when I got an error message
 from gcc...here is a little snipit from a try:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sjc]gcc hello.c
 gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11



This sounds like a hardware problem.  See www.bitwizard.nl/sig11 for 
explanation.


 
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possible network attack question

1998-03-10 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

In the last few weeks I have been receiving the following message in
syslog with increasing frequency

Mar 10 22:19:46 garfield kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned
multiple  buffers, status 7fffceff! 

I have been told that this is normal and should not worry me. However,
as the frequency has increased dramatically, I was wondering aboutwhat it
actually is and secondly whether it could be some sort of attack from the
net. I have the iplogger package and it reports nothing suspicious. Could
it be something that iplogger is not designed to notice ? Any help would
be appreacited as this is really buffling me 
Thanks
George 


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Re: Tcl/Tk source ?

1998-03-10 Thread Igor Grobman
 

  
  I wondered if there is a way to 'mimic' install/remove with dpkg?
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  Mac
  
  
 
 If you go to /var/lib/dpkg, you will find a file called status. This
 appears to be how dselect keeps track of what's installed/configured/etc.
 The format is pretty self explanitory, so you should be able to hack the
 status line of the package in question, fooling dselect into thinking it
 installed the package.


Mucking with status file is a Very Bad Idea (tm).  There was ascii2deb utility 
floating around in random .deb files ;-) a while ago.  It does not seem to be 
present in hamm.  There is also an equivs package available in hamm which 
should do the job well.  Due to its nature, you should be safe with installing 
it on a bo system (it does not use libc6 and such)


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Re: Pine From: address

1998-03-10 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Chris wrote:

 I am using pine (from the debian distribution), and I would like to know
 how to set the return address (instead of the standard
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

I've had luck putting From: ... in my custom header of my pine config.  I
believe I had to tell pine I'm allowed to change my from during the
initial config.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: Getting Mail From POP3 Servers

1998-03-10 Thread Mike
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:

 currently using fetchmail to do this but it doesn't seem to use procmail so 

You want to get the mail filtering FAQ.

From the FAQ:
FAQ-launcher-URLs:
 http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/
 http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/

Worked for me like a charm; took about 10 minutes.

Mike

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Re: Smail/Sendmail Question

1998-03-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
mfrattola == mfrattola  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, mfrattola == mfrattola [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

mfrattola Am I right in thinking local is used only for localhost
mfrattola bound mail? Where does all this magic come from? Do I have
mfrattola to hand edit sendmail.conf by hand? (any m4 shortcut?)

Yes. You can make believe more machines are local by adding to
 sendmail.cw, but then that mail shall be filed locally. This is not
 what you need.

mfrattola Thank you for your answer. It seems to me (from other
mfrattola messages) that smail is easier to manage WRT this problem
mfrattola (with routers, directors and the like).  Problem is I don't
mfrattola like smail (and recent problems with newer smail don't make
mfrattola me like it more). What I'd like sendmail to do is:

mfrattola localhost mail deliver locally don't rewrite header
mfrattola LAN mail deliver thru eth0 don't rewrite header
mfrattola internet mail deliver thru ppp0 rewrite header

This is possible by 
 a) defining mailers, and modifying sendmail.cf to add a inexpensive
smtp mailer (copy the smtp mailers and call them lsmtp et akk
 b) look at ruleset 1 and prevent rewrites for the LAN, while allowing
rewrites for external addresses 

The ppp vs eth0 should be handled by the networking setup, and
 should not be a part of the MTA's chores.

This is easy if you grok sendmail.cf, like some of us
 oldtimers. Unfortunately, sendmail.cf mastery is a dying art. Oh,
 when it is written, it can be encapsulated into a m4 hack, so
 everyone else can just use that.

manoj
 who still remembers evenings spent crafting version 5 sendmail.cf's
 with a host of cohorts
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