Re: On Debian, currently.
Manoj Srivastava writes: Well, some one has indeed moved on to wider Horizons. The ex-project leader of Debian, who is very widely respected, has indeed left the project, and we are poorer for that. No argument about that. 8-) But then, everything changes and adapts (or it is moribund). Like a good wine (isn't that a Debian package?), Debian only gets better with each release. I see more and more windows-style applications available in Debian. With each new application, Debian is less of a curiosity and more of a fulfilled dream. Whether we are going downhill remains to be seen (everything seems to go downhill when one gets older than 30. In my day ;-) I know what you mean about that 8-) -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrom gone after kernel compile
Ben Pfaff wrote: After compiling a more modularized kernel today (using Debian 1.3.1 with kernel src 2.0.32) I've lost my cdrom- everything was working perfectly with the bloated standard kernel... When I try mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom I see something like fs type iso9660 not supported by kernel. Fine- I made it available as a module- why isn't kerneld picking that up? (kerneld *is* running) So, I insmod isofs. No luck- I see mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) So, I try insmod cdrom to no avail. The hardware is fine- I'm using the Adaptec 1542 driver (the card is a 1535- same but no bios) with a pretty vanilla SCSI-II dual speed (Compaq) cdrom. Both the support for the card and generic scsi support are compiled directly in, not as modules. What does /proc/scsi/scsi say? Does it recognize that there's a CD-ROM there? Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: COMPAQ Model: CD-ROM CR-503BCQ Rev: 1.1c Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Yep. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrom gone after kernel compile
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, John Szumowski wrote: [cc'd to debian-user mailing list] After compiling a more modularized kernel today (using Debian 1.3.1 with kernel src 2.0.32) I've lost my cdrom- everything was working perfectly with the bloated standard kernel... When I try mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom I see something like fs type iso9660 not supported by kernel. Fine- I made it available as a module- why isn't kerneld picking that up? (kerneld *is* running) So, I insmod isofs. No luck- I see mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) So, I try insmod cdrom to no avail. I just had a similar experience with 2.0.33 and fs. It could be that module dependences where not calculated when you rebooted. Check to see if /lib/modules/2.0.32/modules.dep exists. If not run depmod -a in /lib/modules/2.0.32 (You may need to reboot for this to take effect?) Check to see if auto is in /etc/modules The other option is to mv /lib/modules/2.0.32 /lib/modules/2.0.32.saved and reinstall your custom kernel if you used make-kpkg and reboot. (This fixed my problem!) Hope this helps John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrom gone after kernel compile [Solution!]
John Maheu wrote: [snip] I just had a similar experience with 2.0.33 and fs. It could be that module dependences where not calculated when you rebooted. Check to see if /lib/modules/2.0.32/modules.dep exists. If not run depmod -a in /lib/modules/2.0.32 Thanks! That did the trick...didn't even need to reboot. (You may need to reboot for this to take effect?) Check to see if auto is in /etc/modules The other option is to mv /lib/modules/2.0.32 /lib/modules/2.0.32.saved and reinstall your custom kernel if you used make-kpkg and reboot. (This fixed my problem!) Hope this helps John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grabbing root window images.
Linux admin at alv [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My Afterstep window manager prevents xv from receiving clicks in root window. After left-clicking in a root window I see Afterstep's menu. xv still waits. Try setting a delay of five seconds, then selecting AutoGrab and moving the mouse over part of the background before that five seconds is up. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp problem
Tim writes: Look in the same file. Remove the 'proxyarp' keyword. Or, it may be in /etc/ppp/options . It's in /etc/ppp/options. Better to put '-proxyarp' in /etc/ppp/peers/provider, though. That way proxyarp is disabled only for the 'provider' connection. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: telnet from linux to win95
On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 05:46:49PM -0600, Henry Hollenberg wrote: Looks intresting I'll check it out, thanks. Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 21 Mar 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: Where can I read a description of vnc? I didn't get any hits on a debian package search :-(. There's a web page at http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc. The Debian package is in the X11 section at the usual mirror sites. Let me comment on this (as the new debian maintainer of vnc) be sure to use 3.3.1-4. There have been a lot of fixes. vnc now comes with three packages: 1) vncserver . You need this if you want a X server running on the linux box, that you can display and control in a windows95/NT or even X window. 2) xvncviewer. You need this if you want to display a vnc server (either on linux or Windows 95) on the linux box under X. 3) svncviewer. You need this if you want to display a vnc server (either linux or Windows 95) on the linux box with svgalib (NEW!). If you want to have the full Win95 desktop in a Xwindow window, you need the Win95 server (from the homepage above) and xvncviewer. If you want to have the full Win95 desktop with svgalib, then you need svncviewer (note: this may be a bit unstable. I didn't experienced any problems, but I haven't tested it very much yet). You can configure vnc in /etc/vnc.conf and/or ~/.vncrc, but you mostly need this if you are going to use linux as the server. A side note: PLEASE report *any* experiences with vnc to me (what are you doing with it, does it work?, how stable is it?). I'm very interested in reports! Thank you! Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: telnet from linux to win95
Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a tutorial on assembly I was tinkering with and it is written for intel assembly format...instead of att. The assembler might work under DOSEmu or under Wine. You could also have a look at the NASM assembler, which is a Debian package. It isn't quite the format that MASM uses, but it definitely isn't ATT. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network/PPP Help
Hello, Just installed Debain today and was working on getting the PPP working. I have been following the HOWTO: on PPP Set up and everything was going fine until I tried pinging. Haven't got any farther than that. Did get everything else to that point. And I am stuck and the HOWTO didn't say where to go for help. So I thought I would ask the guru's on here. I am connected manually to my ISP and seems like everything is holding fine. In the HOWTO it says to type route -n and I get the Gateway of 0.0.0.0 and Gen Mask of 255.255.255.255. Those numbers don't look right to me. When I type route add default I get SIOCADDRT: network is unreachable. Then when I type route add net I get net: net name lookup failure. What have I done wrong. I set up the dummy loop back and had the ip address of my machine to 127.0.0.1. But I know I have messed up something and was wondering if there is a file I need to change to get this to work. I only have a Dynamic Address when I log on to my ISP. So any help would be greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance. Mike Acklin[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DH/DSS) Harry Tuttle ---[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RSA) For Public Keys, Finger User: htuttle Address: brazil.dyn.ml.org OB: System - Cyrix 6x86 PR 200+, 48 Meg Ram, Win 95 OSR2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network/PPP Help
Hello Billm And thanks for the reply. At 12:26 AM 3/22/98 -0500, you wrote: Hi Harry; You will probably get lots of responses to your request for help but here are some of my thoughts. It is impossible to tell from what you have written whether your problem is a routing problem or just that you are not establishing the ppp link. I think my problem is a routing problem as I have been able to establish the PPP link. First, your machine's IP address should NOT be 127.0.0.1! (or 127.0.0.0, or 0.0.0.0, or 255.255.255.255 as these are all 'special' addresses) When you say that you are connecting manually do you mean that you are using something like seyon or minicom, login in, quitting the terminal program without resetting the modem, and then envoking pppd? Yes that is exactly what I am doing. And everything works fine as far as I can tell. As soon as you have started your session: type '/sbin/ifconfig' and you should get something like: bash-2.01$ /sbin/ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:1455 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 frame:0 TX packets:1455 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 carrier:0 coll:0 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:207.53.8.93 P-t-P:207.53.8.251 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1633 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 frame:0 TX packets:1672 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 carrier:0 coll:0 Of course your numbers will be different (except for the second line which must be the same as mine). Yes I get this exactly, with the different ip numbers as you mentioned. then type: bash-2.01$ plog Mar 21 18:57:44 gandalf chat[1554]: bleach^M Mar 21 18:57:44 gandalf chat[1554]: Password: Mar 21 18:57:44 gandalf chat[1554]: -- got it Mar 21 18:57:44 gandalf chat[1554]: send (your password^M) Mar 21 18:57:45 gandalf pppd[1553]: Serial connection established. Mar 21 18:57:46 gandalf pppd[1553]: Using interface ppp0 Mar 21 18:57:46 gandalf pppd[1553]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem Mar 21 18:57:50 gandalf pppd[1553]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Mar 21 18:57:50 gandalf pppd[1553]: local IP address 207.53.8.93 Mar 21 18:57:50 gandalf pppd[1553]: remote IP address 207.53.8.251 Now this will probably be quite different for you (ie: since you are starting the session manually you won't have any of the 'chat' lines. Notice that the local and remote IP addresses match the ones that I had in my ifconfig report. I have not gone that far yet as for automating the log on. I just got to the point in the Howto: that I could connect to my ISP and then I got stuck. Some important files: bash-2.01$ cat /etc/resolv.conf domain worldnet.att.net search worldnet.att.net nameserver 204.127.129.1 nameserver 204.127.129.2 nameserver 204.127.160.1 Note that you will have to have your own ISPs domain name and nameserver ip addresses. bash-2.01$ cat host.conf order hosts,bind multi on The above files are just like yours with the exception of my ISP's and DNS entries. And if you are running the hamm version of debian: bash-2.01$ cat nsswitch.conf # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. # Information about this file is available in the `libc6-doc' package. passwd: db files group: db files shadow: db files hosts: files dns networks: files protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: db files No I am not running the HAMM version yet. I wanted to get everything done in the stable version before moving up to the HAMM verison. If you don't get a similar ifconfig response then your ppp link is not coming up (and should be confirmed with the plog command [or tail /var/log/ppp.log if you don't have the plog command]). Have you tried ping to ip address instead of names? When you ping to a name (like ftp.debian.org) then a DNS lookup has to occur but when you ping to an IP address (like 130.207.7.21), the ping is direct. This is where my problem starts. When I ping my ISP I get good pings but only 204.47.44.4, but if I try the name, dallas.net, I get nothing as I have not be able to establish a link to the DNS. I can ping my own machine and my ISP by IP numbers only. -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! Thanks again, Bill. This was my first question and I wasn't sure how to exactly ask it. But you have given me some ideas where to look. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
Re: Network/PPP Help
This is where my problem starts. When I ping my ISP I get good pings but only 204.47.44.4, but if I try the name, dallas.net, I get nothing as I have not be able to establish a link to the DNS. I can ping my own machine and my ISP by IP numbers only. Can you ping any of your nameservers? (By IP address, not name, of course.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network/PPP Help
At 12:31 AM 3/22/98 -0500, you wrote: Can you ping any of your nameservers? (By IP address, not name, of course.) No, I am not able to ping anything but my machine when I am logged on and the domain machine of my ISP. Just by IP address only. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdrom
I have an interesting problem, I have gathered some bits and pieces together to make a small linux server, but my problem is that I cannot use the cdrom after installation, so I am stuck with a minimal system.. I can boot up with MS-DOS floppy, and use my 1.3.1 cdrom to install, fine. one the installation is complete and I do a reboot, the usual user config can be completed etc... then when I try to use dselect to install some more (or less) packages, /dev/hdb is not a block device I am using the cdrom from my usual pentium system, as I only have one cdrom... it should report on boot up: hdb: HITACHI CDR-7730, ATAPI CDROM drive but instead, it reads: hdb: #I#A#H# #D#-#7#0# #T#P# #D#O# #r#v# # ... etc where each # is one of those smiley face characters... I cant remember its extended code.. (this is after installation, the install kernel reports it correctly) the HDD I am using is an old Seagate 102 MB, which is fine for a small two user dialup, mail etc machine, It reports as: hda: st3120AT, 102MB w/32kB Cache, CHS=1024/12/17 This same problem happens when I put the HDD in my pentuim and try to install. The other machine, to become a server is a 386. I am confused, because the installation kernel (run from boot.bat) can operate the cdrom fine, but the 2.0.29 kernel that is installed to HDD is causing problems. Sorry for the long mail if this is an easy problem, but can anybody help? Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- From a 1996 MicroSloth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want MicroSoft! -- See! They do get some things right! (I gotta stop stealing Sigs) --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TRANSLATION Re: the instructions for win95 under dosemu
On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Adrian Bridgett wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 08:07:03AM -0800, Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella wrote: Luiz Otavio L Zorzella writes: Here it goes. It comes from: http://www.pro-unix.org/~puma/ I translated the most important items: 2, 3 and 7. Well, folks. I don't know about you, but I tried. And tryed. And tryed. All I can get is, after the Blue Screen with the Windows logo, the message It is safe now to turn off your computer. Using 0.67-15 I get the same, however with 0.97.4 I get it complaining about the A20 line, XMS and HIMEM.SYS not being in the windows directory. I *hate* that last one - I never told it to load himem.sys but it does so whether or not it is in config.sys. add noauto the the end of the DOS= line in config.sys i.e. DOS=HIGH,UMB,NOAUTO stops it loading ifshlp.sys and setver.??? too... Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- It works fine except when I am in Windows. --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grabbing root window images.
On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 01:11:03PM +1200, Carey Evans wrote: My Afterstep window manager prevents xv from receiving clicks in root window. After left-clicking in a root window I see Afterstep's menu. xv still waits. Try setting a delay of five seconds, then selecting AutoGrab and moving the mouse over part of the background before that five seconds is up. Thanks, it works nice. WBW, Alexey. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo, linux and win95
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: I'm saying that not only can a logical be created without being created within an extended partition, but that it can exist without an extended partition, or at least outside of any extended partition displayed by fdisk. Hmm. I haven't actually had many opportunities to repartition, so I think I really need to read some documentation, and experiment a bit, before I can say anything about this. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bruce
On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Richard Sevenich wrote: Well, OK - I'll stick with Debian despite Bruce's departure - for a while longer. The developers would miss folks like me who ask those naive questions. You can't be elite if no one notices. Bruce provided a type of leadership (yes, I know Ian took over some time ago) that was reassuring to the users. He was the only 'official' bridge between the users and the developers. Again - he provided reassurance to us users, that there was a direction in the anarchic creativity. And he made the developers look good to us users. It may be that his work with SPI is crucial to Linux success and he'll do more for Debian there than here - in the long run. My guess is that I've been instrumental (as an academician) in introducing Linux to perhaps 100 to 200 young people. I recommend Debian, but RedHat is slicker and more attractive. It's like watching your teenager start dating - they go for the attractive package. And RedHat is good, so I'm torn. I'm The isn't completely true about teenagers. I hate to toot my own horn, but I always looked for people with whome I would like to spend my entire life, and there weren't too many like that. Red Hat is very glossy, but I question whether it really works much better than Debian even at the start, and it's long-term appeal is much less. We have used it at my university for a while and have had constant problems reconfiguring things for our strange setup. Debian is more honest about the possible (or even likely) need for manual micro-management configuration of packages. torn because I want these young folks to experience the instant gratification which underlies (undermines?) our culture. Otherwise, They'll just go back to watching TV. Myself, I liked Debian much better than either Slackware or Red Hat (both of which I have had experience with) right from the start. The package management system sold me. I had already experienced massive frustration over poorly specified software interdependency, and Debian adressed the problem squarely. Now I hate to toot the communal horn of Debian people, but I think many of the most valuable new users/hackers/potential hackers are impressed with Debian the same way. dselect can be a bit painful at first, but it both educates users and ensures proper setup, which I think is worth while and should not be compromised in order to make things easier for people with little patience. At the least, new users should be presented with a big isolated intimidating possible confusing window asking whether they want the installer to give them a set of default packages or whether they want to customise their install with tradional dselect. I realize that we're not overt competitors of RedHat and that we wish them well for the sake of linux - but Debian aspires to be the ideal - non-commercial, free, and excellent. When a slick package like kde is easily installed on RedHat, but difficult with Debian - some folks get confused. Yes, I know kde is impure because of qt - but it's slick. Slick is good for some. Making any X window manager or like beastie completely easy to install requires automagically monkeying with some config files that said window manager package probably has no buisness monkeying with. I guess I do understand the conflict between easy and full-featured after all. At any rate, good luck Bruce - we'll miss you. And, sincere thanks to all the developers - despite my gibes. You are the heart of debian. Richard P.S. Can this qualify to start a flame war? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
odd ppp bug
I have been experiencing an odd problem with ppp on my machine. I have an attack dialer set up, and for the most part it works. Every now and then however, I forget to turn it off, and it rediales for days. After many hours or days, connections start to fail every time, the modem ringing then making it's customary screeching noises, then going beep-Beep-BOOP in deceending tones until timeout. The strange thing is that this keeps happening even after I kill pppd and chat. I assumed this was some defensive measure of my ISP, but one day I called them to beg for mercy and they promised they knew nothing about it. They told me to reboot my machine, and I kept from laughing, barely. But it turned out they were right, reboot and the problem goes away. I don't know if this is a bug lurking in the kernel or if there is a daemon I don't know about gone wrong somewhere or what. If anyone has any ideas or can reccomend something to do to get more information I would love to hear about it. Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. (This sig, when found, assumed in the public domain) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shared object links
Hello! Shortly after installing ldso 1.9.4-1, some programs I have compiled inexplicably start dumping core. And here's what ldd reported for libc (which was linked into every program): $ ldd /lib/libc.so.6 --list = --list (0x) $ After installing ldso 1.9.7-1: $ ldd /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x) $ That doesn't look right -- what's going on? -- Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unmount: COMMAND NOT FOUND!!!
unmount is not the prefered method,use umount in it place. Alain Toussaint -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libc5 vs Libc6: help me, please!
Nuno Carvalho wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install KDE, and some others things, but it needs libc6. When I try to install libc6 I get messages of dependencies with libc5! :-( I can't remove the libc5 package! No, you must first upgrade libc5. The full instructions are in the libc5-libc6 mini HOWTO, currently to be found in Developers' Corner at hhtp://www.debian.org. You can also use autoup.sh (same location) to do the process automatically. (If you download by ftp, get the packages first.) How should I install libc6 ? Thank's! Regards, Nuno Carvalho P.S. I don't have too much experience with librarys! :-(( --- Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho Department of Informatics Engineering University of Coimbra PORTUGAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://student.dei.uc.pt/~nemanuel --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] g -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emacs in Hamm
In Hamm emacs, emacs20 and emacsen-common are all in standard. emacs20 depends on emacsen-common which conflicts with emacs. Does this mean that I don't d/l emacs? And I thought all standard packages were meant to be able to coexist with each other? Thanks Ian -- Ian Lynagh - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.sn.no/~balchen/igloo/ If an item is advertised as under $50.00, you can bet it's not $9.99. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt 0.89.1-4 [hamm]
On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 04:52:32PM -0500, Bill Leach wrote: Did you look on a NON-US mirror site? The pgp stuff can not be posted on U.S. based sites because the U.S. Govt. is paranoid that somehow the U.S. defense department will be destroyed if a cryptographic system (available worldwide) is imported into the U.S. and then exported. On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 04:38:14PM -0500, Norbert Veber wrote: are you saying that this version of mutt doesn't have pgp support and the ones on non-us have it? That would be a bit strange if you ask me, seeing as packages such as pinepgp are in the normal distribution. I allready have the pgp binary, I am talking about pgp support in mutt (the email client) In the past, the situation was as follows: - US version of mutt: includes hooks to PGP, but has itself no crypto code. It was unclear whether this could be exported or not; the mutt author wanted to be on the safe side; the debian developers decided packages that only contained hooks for crypto could be exported. - export version of mutt: no PGP support whatsoever. This situation has changed. Now: - The US version of mutt has no PGP support whatsoever. - The international version (maintained outside the US) contains better integrated PGP support. As a result, now - The mutt version on the regular FTP sites is the US version; no PGP support. - mutt-i on nonUS.debian.org and its mirrors is the international version, including PGP support. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: odd ppp bug
Britton Kerin writes: I forget to turn it off, and it rediales for days. After many hours or days, connections start to fail every time, the modem ringing then making it's customary screeching noises, then going beep-Beep-BOOP in deceending tones until timeout. The strange thing is that this keeps happening even after I kill pppd and chat. My first reaction is that this sounds like a modem problem. Are you resetting it in your chatscript? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Laserjet 6L
On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Stefan Baums wrote: Hi all, is anyone running the HP Laserjet 6L with Debian GNU/Linux? I'm using magicfilter 1.2-20, and the 6L is not in magicfilterconfig's list of supported printers. Can I use another filter (say, for the 4L) and will I be able to get 600x600 dpi with that? I just used the 4L with default setings (e.g. didn't touch resolution). Works fine. I am also using a 6L - the 4L filter will only give you 300x300. Use the 4 filter instead. Cheers. -- Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.telmer.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Now he's a liar, too
On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 11:30:27AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, I lied. I thought I had posted my last message of the day, but there
has been an outpouring of requests for the loggin surrounding my PPP
problem. I concede that I should have included it in my original posting.
There have also been requests for my config files. As I've explained to
several individual respondents, the box in question is at home and I'm at
work, so I don't have access to those files. One respondent did mention
that I might check the permissions on those files (a good idea, and one
that I'm ashamed to have not come up with on my own), so I'll do that when
I get home (or maybe have my wife look for me -- no, probably not. :)
Anyway, here are the highlights of the logging generated by a vanilla
unsuccessful request:
chat[5737]SIGHUP
chat[5737]Can't restore terminal parameters: I/O error
pppd[5747]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
pppd[5747]: Removed stale lock on ttyS2 (pid 5729(
chat[5748]: abort on (BUSY)
chat[5748]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
chat[5748]: abort on (VOICE)
chat[5748]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
chat[5748]: send (ATDT4042873038^^M)
chat[5748]: expect (ogin)
kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered
chat[5748]: ATDT4042873038^^M^^M
chat[5748]: alarm
chat[5748]: Failed
pppd[5747]: Connect script failed
I used to have this, but havn't for some time. It seems like the magic step
was to stop sharing IRQs (although this does seem a little odd). I used to
have:
/dev/ttyS0 4
/dev/ttyS1 3
/dev/ttyS2 4
now I have
/dev/ttyS0 4
/dev/ttyS1 3
/dev/ttyS2 2 (NB: IRQ2 = IRQ9)
by adding this to /etc/rc.boot/0setserial:
${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS2 uart 16550A port 0x3E8 irq 2 ${STD_FLAGS}
(and changing the jumpers on the modem!)
Before you go through all this, I'd suggest extending the timeout - by
putting this at the top of the chatscript:
TIMEOUT 60
It seems very odd that there is *no* reponse from the other side. I don't
know how PAP works, but it might be that the ISP is using this - I believe
you need to have auth in the /etc/ppp/options file.
By the way, I'm very impressed and pleased by the vast and rapid response.
At the same time, it's troubling to see the negative thoughts floating
around about the future of Debian. Of course, the two threads contradict
each other, don't they? The success of any product is directly
proportional to the support of it's users. That's my initial impression,
anyway.
Don't worry too much about it, I'm sure everything will look up when hamm is
released in just over a month (probably).
While I'm not an application developer and cannot help on that side of
things, I am a rather experienced web developer. If my services could be
used for the further advancement of Debian's mission, I'm sure you'll let
me know.
You're more than welcome to look around the web site and see what you think
needs improving. Have a chat with the webmaster - Sue Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
My only request is not to turn it into a site where you need java just to
click on a button and a T1 connection to download lots of full-screen videos
and MP3 (unless I'm viewing it at work :-)
Maybe looking at the bugs database will help - there are a few suggestions
in there. I think a few of those involve more advanced options for the bugs
database, so depending on what kind of web development you do, you may or
may not be able to fix them!
Packaging programs isn't too difficult, just start off with something simple
before trying to package X-windows or the various emacs parts :-)
Adrian
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Is this list discontinued?
Hello, What's happening with debian user list? Are you dealing with a major crash? I'm not receiving any message since 5th March. Can anyone send me a note of explanation? Is anybody here, Ground Control? Thanks, Adalberto da Silva -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network/PPP Help
At 12:26 AM 3/22/98 -0500, you wrote: then type: bash-2.01$ plog Mar 21 18:57:44 gandalf chat[1554]: bleach^M Mar 21 18:57:44 gandalf chat[1554]: Password: Mar 21 18:57:44 gandalf chat[1554]: -- got it Mar 21 18:57:44 gandalf chat[1554]: send (your password^M) Mar 21 18:57:45 gandalf pppd[1553]: Serial connection established. Mar 21 18:57:46 gandalf pppd[1553]: Using interface ppp0 Mar 21 18:57:46 gandalf pppd[1553]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem Mar 21 18:57:50 gandalf pppd[1553]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Mar 21 18:57:50 gandalf pppd[1553]: local IP address 207.53.8.93 Mar 21 18:57:50 gandalf pppd[1553]: remote IP address 207.53.8.251 Now this will probably be quite different for you (ie: since you are starting the session manually you won't have any of the 'chat' lines. Notice that the local and remote IP addresses match the ones that I had in my ifconfig report. Ok I did the plog and I did see one entry that said CCP: Timeout sending config-requests. But everything looked like it should as far as I could tell. I did see the local IP address had been changed to the IP address my ISP gave me and did see the remote IP address. So looked like that was all working. I think the problem is in the router section and I don't really know what to do. When I do the route -n I get: kernal routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window Use Iface 204.47.44.4 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 15000 ppp0 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0U 3584 0 lo But in the HOWTO it says that I should have a default in this table, but I don't. When I do the route add default it says, SIOCADDRT:Network is unreachable. And then when I do a route add net I get Host Name lookup failure. I think this may be a problem when I installed debain. It asked me if I was connected to a network and I said Yes and gave the info provided by my ISP. Such as the DNS addresses and the default gateway info. But when I boot up I see the same SIOADDRT message. Should I reinstall? and answer no to being connected to a network. The installation docs were not very clear on this. Hopefully someone has had this problem before. I have checked the FAQ's and the Network HOWTOs but can't figure this one out. Again thanks for your help. Mike Acklin[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DH/DSS) Harry Tuttle ---[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RSA) For Public Keys, Finger User: htuttle Address: brazil.dyn.ml.org OB: System - Cyrix 6x86 PR 200+, 48 Meg Ram, Win 95 OSR2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is this list discontinued?
What's happening with debian user list? Are you dealing with a major crash? I'm not receiving any message since 5th March. Looks fine to me. Maybe some messages to you bounced and you got unsubscribed. Try resubscribing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network/PPP Help
Thanks Bill, I think you are right. I went back over the Install doc and one thing it did say was to configure you network, even if you are not connected. THEN it says, if you are not connected to a network you only have to answer the first 2 questions which are 1) Your computer name 2) are you connected to a network. I answered yes to the second question and added all the Network info from my ISP. That is what is messing things up as you said. When I boot up it is looking for the network and of course it isn't there. I really don't know what files to edit to correct this, so will probably reinstall as I really don't have anything on the system yet, other than minicom. But I have that where I can reinstall that also. Again thanks for all your help. I have already learned alot about debian and love it. Mike Acklin[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DH/DSS) Harry Tuttle ---[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RSA) For Public Keys, Finger User: htuttle Address: brazil.dyn.ml.org OB: System - Cyrix 6x86 PR 200+, 48 Meg Ram, Win 95 OSR2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hamm installation problems
I have had many problems trying to install hamm. I get the following error message that appears on the installation screen menu. The installation screen menu overwrites it. c: tray open hdc: tra hdc:tray end_request: I/O error dev 16:00 sector 0 When I try to install the base I get the following message there was a problem installing the base system from /base2_0.tgz I verified the integrity of this file in linux. I had a smilar problem with the 6 disk sets. those I downloaded twice and the files were the same. When I load the kernel serial driver, it finds serial ports that do not exist. These are at a high i/o address. When none of this worked, I entered linux and ran tar on the base2_0.tgz file. That really messed up my bo/hamm mixture. I got some error mesages and the following ini: id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
netscape 4.04
hi is there a way to clear the cache of pages and images? i've searched the menus... i have a cached page that seems to only reload from cache, and not from the server. other pages load from the server just fine. thanx d -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux.Free at last winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netscape 4.04
is there a way to clear the cache of pages and images? Yes. There is a button to do this under Preferences in the same place you can set the cache sizes. Alternatively just `rm -r ~/.netscape/cache'. (I think that's the right directory. Take a look under .netscape.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
netscape 4.04
boy is my face red... the cache option in the preferences menu requires you to click the little rh-pointing arrow pointing at 'advanced' which uncovers the cache and other options... duhh thanks, guys d -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux.Free at last winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hamm upgrades
Just for your interest, I have tested the hamm disks on a friends computer, and I was able to install hamm using those disks, but like others have pointed out, perl is missing, so I had to install it manually before I could use the ftp method of dselect. I also tried autoupd.sh on another friends computer, and it went from bo to hamm just fine, there is only one problem: He uses accelerated X 4.1, which stopped working after the upgrade (complains about unresolved symbols, doesn't say which library though). Has anyone else run into this? If so, what is the fix? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt 0.89.1-4 [hamm]
This situation has changed. Now: - The US version of mutt has no PGP support whatsoever. - The international version (maintained outside the US) contains better integrated PGP support. As a result, now - The mutt version on the regular FTP sites is the US version; no PGP support. - mutt-i on nonUS.debian.org and its mirrors is the international version, including PGP support. ok, I got mutt-i, which works fine, I did not realize that mutt had some build in crypto stuff, I thought it only had hooks for pgp.. What does the built in stuff do anyway? pgpjhGCzW5v4k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: opendos fdisk *shifted* my partitions?
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: Getting the bootable flags back wasn't the problem; they're set that way now. But it litterly shifted the partition names; hda1 became hda2, and so forth. Is there any way to change them back? This is exactly what OpenDOS did with my Linux system too. I fixed the problem by using Linux fdisk. I noted all the start and end cylinders of all partitions, then I removed them all and recreated them at their proper places. No information on the partitions were lost in the process, but don't take my word for it. You should always have backups. // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Programming hints.
(Alex Yukhimets) wrote:
Beeing busy to write a programm I would like to add a routine
that forces it to shut down orderly (closing files etc.) when
recieving a SIGTERM from the system, because the program itself
is doing work that will keep it going for months at least.
Can somone tell me of already existing programs where i can study
the source to learn about that subject?
man 2 signal
Usage:
siganl(SIGTERM,shutdown_handler);
where shutdown_handler is
void shutdown_handler(int sig){
/* do cleanup */
exit(0);
}
What about CTRL + C. Is that a signal? If not, how can a do something before
exiting from CTRL + C?
/Mats
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Telnet
Does anyone know where I can find a program, like the telnet program for lynx, that will work in DOS? I want the one that you type like 'telnet telnet.example.edu.' Thanks, Pete Poff Pete Poff E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JPEG parameter struct mismatch.........
Howdy, I've messed a bit with upgrading my bo box to hamm, with success. BUT, I don't know what I did but I get a little (?) error, that is: JPEG parametet struct mismatch: library thinks size is 672, caller expects 456. Now I've tried to reinstall libjpeg (bo, hamm, oldlibs) but without success What to do? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JPEG parameter struct mismatch.........
On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 10:30:56PM +, Heiko Heijenga wrote: I've messed a bit with upgrading my bo box to hamm, with success. BUT, I don't know what I did but I get a little (?) error, that is: JPEG parametet struct mismatch: library thinks size is 672, caller expects 456. I had the same problem a little while ago. It was fixed by upgrading to a later version of one of the relevant packages, but I've forgotten whether it was a library or zgv or something else. Anyway, my current versions are: ii libjpeg6a 6a-11 The Independent JPEG Group's jpeg runtime li ii libjpegg6a 6a-11 The Independent JPEG Group's jpeg runtime li ii zgv 2.8-4 SVGAlib graphics viewer HTH. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. PGP encrypted mail preferred. ``It's not a vision, or a fear. It's just a thought.'' pgpKdGBD6mang.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Network/PPP Help
On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Mike Acklin wrote: I think the problem is in the router section and I don't really know what to do. When I do the route -n I get: kernal routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window Use Iface 204.47.44.4 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0ppp0 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0U 3584 0lo But in the HOWTO it says that I should have a default in this table, but I don't. When I do the route add default it says, SIOCADDRT:Network is unreachable. And then when I do a route add net I get Host Name lookup failure. Do you use defaultroute in your pppd options? if you dont, try route add default ppp0 after running pppd. IMHO, if your ISP does not use PAP auth. then I think it would probably be easier to set up the pon/poff scripts... but then, thats my opinion. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- Where am I? Who are these people? --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network/PPP Help
On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Mike Acklin wrote:
Thanks Bill,
I think you are right. I went back over the Install doc and one thing it
did say was to configure you network, even if you are not connected. THEN
it says, if you are not connected to a network you only have to answer the
first 2 questions which are 1) Your computer name 2) are you connected to a
network.
I answered yes to the second question and added all the Network info
from
my ISP. That is what is messing things up as you said. When I boot up it is
looking for the network and of course it isn't there.
That shouldn't matter, if it isn't there, it does not worry.
I really don't know what files to edit to correct this, so will probably
reinstall as I really don't have anything on the system yet, other than
minicom. But I have that where I can reinstall that also.
Again thanks for all your help. I have already learned alot about debian
and love it.
I would not jump in and reinstall so soon, the file you need to edit is
/etc/init.d/network. In there you can change things around to suit... mine
has this:
-begin--
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo
IPADDR=192.168.0.1
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.0.0
BROADCAST=192.168.0.255
#GATEWAY=192.168.0.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST} up
route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} eth0
#[ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
end-
But I am on a small home network, so you should probably only have:
-begin--
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo
IPADDR=192.168.0.1
route add -host ${IPADDR}
end-
I dont have the faintest if that is the correct way to do it, but that
_should_ do it. It worked for me... then you must use defaultroute with
pppd, or do a route add default ppp0 yourself.
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xISP: rcVersion: error reading file version!
$ xisp [2] 637 $ xISP: rcVersion: error reading file version! What is it and how am I solving it ? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet
Hi! www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/PCTelnet/ This is a free telnet and FTP client from NCSA. It makes FTP server from DOS machine, while telnet client is runing. Corleone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
