Re: backup

1998-03-24 Thread Joerg Friedrich
 Hi, 
  I'm running a Linux server that NFS mounts drives from a Digital
 Alpha machine. Can someone recommend what debian package I can use to
 backup the drives to tape ? I'm looking for something that can
 specifically backup NFS mounted directories to a tape drive on the server.

afbackup

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fat - ext2

1998-03-24 Thread dpk
Is there a way to retrieve the original filename when moving from a fat/dos
filesystem to ext2?  A script/command would be nice, if it exists.  If not,
is there an algorithm to extract this information?  

Thanks,
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Re: xdm, X, fvwm2 : newbie questions

1998-03-24 Thread Jens Ritter
Gabor Kontur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've recently reinstalled Debian 1.3 (on a system with a new
 disk) and found that after installing xbase and xserver-svga, xdm
 wouldn't start.  After looking about a bit, I found that
 /etc/init.d/xdm was empty and that the start up script was in
 /etc/init.d/xdm.dpkg-dist.  
 Can anyone help me sort out where I went wrong?  Or is this a
 feature that I don't understand?
 
 What i simply did was copy the file  /etc/init.d/xdm.dpkg-dist  to 
 /etc/init.d/xdm.
 Is that all there is to it ?  Is this script complete as it is now? 

Yes, that should be enough to do. You might want to have a look at the
links /etc/rc*.d/[SKsk]*xdm and at the /usr/X11/config (?) file. Where
you might have to add a start-xdm or something like this. 

 3rd question:
 I did a silly thing, which is  cat /proc/kcore 
 ( but then they say you have to try everything once in life ).
 After a while all the characters on that tty became gibberish and i found
 no way of fixing the problem but i am sure the solution is simple even
 though unknown to me.  (rebooting solved it but there must be a nicer way
 of doing it) 

Type enterresetenter while ignoring what you see. This should
make it more readable. If you still got problems, you can switch to
another console Alt-f*, log in there, ignoring the other terminal.

 4th question:
 When i start ae in an xterm window i cannot use the arrow keys to scroll.
 They work fine with other programs though. 

I think this should be reported as a bug to ae and sure will be solved
in the upcoming debian 2.0.

 5th question:
 Does cdwrite or a similar program support drives with an ATAPI interface ?

Newest versions do AFAIK.

 6th question:
 Mouse support
 The file /etc/gpm.conf has the following entries:
 device=help
 responsiveness=help
 type=ps2
 append=

gpm is useful for Cut  Waste on consoles.
You should run gpmconfig and change the default values to whatever is
appropriate. Running gpm might solve the responsiveness problem in X,
if you use the redistribution option of gpm.

HTH,

Jens

P.S.: I can´t give any help on the other (deleted) questions.
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Re: fat - ext2

1998-03-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Is there a way to retrieve the original filename when moving from a fat/dos
   filesystem to ext2?  A script/command would be nice, if it exists.  If not,
   is there an algorithm to extract this information?  

I'm a little confused about what you mean by `original filename'.  The
file on the fat partition has a filename, right?  Isn't this the
original filename and can't you copy it to the ext2 partition with the
same name?


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Re: fat - ext2

1998-03-24 Thread dpk
 I'm a little confused about what you mean by `original filename'.  The
 file on the fat partition has a filename, right?  Isn't this the
 original filename and can't you copy it to the ext2 partition with the
 same name?

Sorry, I have a file that started out as say 'filename' that was transfered
to a fat filesystem and was renamed by the system to 'filena~1'.  Is there
an algorithm or way to retreive the original filename?

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RE: telnet from linux to win95

1998-03-24 Thread Henry Hollenberg

Is rshd related to the r commands?

If it allows me to log into the system and do some assembly compiles then
that's all I was looking for.

Where do I check it out (Ataman RSHD)?

Thanks
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On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Timm Gleason wrote:

 I know that Hummingbird Software makes a package that includes a telnetd
 that runs on Win95. I have used it and had much success, until I found that
 I didn't really need it. Ataman software makes a RSHD for Win95, but no
 telnetd.
 
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Re: fat - ext2

1998-03-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
I'm a little confused about what you mean by `original filename'.  The
file on the fat partition has a filename, right?  Isn't this the
original filename and can't you copy it to the ext2 partition with the
same name?

   Sorry, I have a file that started out as say 'filename' that was transfered
   to a fat filesystem and was renamed by the system to 'filena~1'.  Is there
   an algorithm or way to retreive the original filename?

Nope.  Unless the `dos' partition is actually a `vfat' partition that
isn't mounted as `vfat', then there is no way to recover these,
because it is not stored anywhere in the filesystem.  OTOH, sometimes
(depending on Lose95 setup), Lose95 will store the *first* file that's
too long (`longfilename1') as the ordinary, but truncated name
(`longfile'), and only store additional files having the same prefix
with ~X (`longfilename2' as `longfi~1').  You can recover two
characters this way if you go on this assumption, but not more.


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Re: man segmentation fault

1998-03-24 Thread Ullrich Jans
Bujtar Janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Today my debian hamm started to fail when i want to see a man page
 Every time i  want to see man pages (any!!!) the result is core dumped.
 Stracing the man the last message is  Updating index cache for path..

 Any ideas?

Well, I don't have the hamm installed yet, but on my bo I onec got the
same error. It was resolved by removing /var/catman/index.bt. (We
suspect index corruption, man tried to allocate more than half a gig
of RAM in the process without checking for the result...)

regards, Ulli


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Re: 2 questions

1998-03-24 Thread Bob Clark
Concerning your first question, you ought to look at the
mirror package.  It takes care of the cleanup task for
you.

--Bob

Paul McDermott wrote:
 
 hello everybody thank you for all of your help.  I am using wget to
 mirror the debian site or part of it anyways.  My question is this: Is
 there a flag to delete files when wget downloads a newer version of the
 same package. I have to clear my ftp site once a week because i run out of
 space.  I did read the documentation and could not find the answer,
 The second question is concerning html.  I grabbed the quickcam window and
 saved the file as a gif.  I have my connectic quickcam automatically take
 a picture every minute and it is put on my web page.  I want to have my
 updated quickcam image overlayed onto the quickcam window image.  My
 question is.  Can I? and How do I do it in html.  I've looked through the
 html help files in lynx and I can't seem to find the answer.  I hope this
 is understable to you and you have some suggestions.  Thanks for your
 help.
 
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Re: more or less Newbies?

1998-03-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

Thank you Joost, for spelling out what I thought and felt.

The one thing that remains for me to say is that I didn't want to object
against less as the default pager. I just wanted to point out that more is a
UNIX power tool, and that it does make sense to have more but not less on a
system.

However, it is not a bug that you can't scroll back in man pages with more.

The reason is, that man feeds the formatted man page with a pipe (another
power facility of the shell) in more, and pipe can't be seeked randomly but
only in a sequence.

To see the difference, one may try:

$ more filename   # right, you have random access

and 

$ cat filename | more # suboptimal, you can only go forward

Another point I want to stress is the importance of regular expressions, a
concept that in the three operating systems mentioned by lucier is not even
known. Learn regex's, and you have made a big step forward to a Linux Guru.

Marcus
PS: After learning awk and shell cripting, you get perl nearly for free.

PPS: I removed ls from my system and have an alias ls - echo * ;)

PPPS: I also have an alias emacs - cat 

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Re: Anybody know how to tell for how long has ppp-if been up?

1998-03-24 Thread Nick Busigin
On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, [iso-8859-1] Marcelo E. Magallón wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
 
  Cant help jumping in, is there an easy way to add/subtract times from the
  output of date???
  Or do you mean that the time-stamp file would be null length and use its
  creation time? even then, how can you work out the time since creation?
 
 I'm thinking C... use time_t, and add and substract that. strftime is your
 friend here. From the shell, use date with some funky formating (something
 like date +%Y%m%d%H%M.%S). You man add and substract that, and convert
 it to another format.
 
 And yes, for what I asked, it would be a null file, and use creation date
 for reference.

I wrote a perl script that calculates ppp usage and breaks it down by user
and also classifies it by prime/non-prime time usage.  If you like, I can
mail it to you.

Best regards,
Nick

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i lost my willpower!!

1998-03-24 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Yo-

OK...I am really wondering if I should wait until next month when Debian
2.0 is released or if I should upgrade now.  I have wanted to upgrade
several times before but was unsure just how stable HAMM was.  Is it
stable enough now?  I really want to upgrade but I have an outstanding
install of BO running right now and I didn't want to risk losing it if
HAMM was too unstable still.

What do you recommend?  Should I wait or should I upgrade tonight?

If I should upgrade, where would I find Craig's upgrade script and maybe a
HOWTO?

Thanks in advance!

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ppp drops while in X

1998-03-24 Thread Jim Foltz
Hello,

When I am using programs in X, my ppp connection drops with a
SIGHUP every few minutes with no apparent reason. After a little
experimentation, I discovered I could make it happen every time by surfing
to the GNOME page (Netscape 4.04) and pressing Page Up, the Page Down and
... dropped connection. This happens everytime without fail. Other actions
also seem to cause the drop, like closing down the LyX program. When I
tried the scwm, just starting X, with startx, would cause the connection
to drop. So I switched back to fvwm.

When I use ppp from the console, the connection remains connected
until I poff it. Although it has dropped now and again in console too, so
it may not be an X problem -- only aggrevated by X somehow.

This is really frustrating me. I am not sure when this all
started, a few weeks ago I guess. I am running an up-to-date hamm system
but hamm is not the problem because I installed 1.3.1 with the same
results. 

Any advice or hints on how to diagnose the problem would be appreciated.

Jim


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Ultra ATA Hard Drives

1998-03-24 Thread John Paul Lorenti
I'm trying to install Debian on a friend's computer. She has a Gateway
G6-233 with a Promise Ultra ATA harddrive controller card and a Western
Digital Caviar UATA-IDE 4GB . The installer doesn't pick up the hard
drive at all if it is connected to the Promise board. When connected to
the motherboard, the drive won't boot into win95 and it fails linux's
bad block scan when trying to create linux partitions.

Is it possible to set up Linux on an Ultra ATA hard drive at this point?
If so, can you point me to some details on how? I tried Deja News, but
the messages seemed inconclusive.

Thank you for your time,

John Paul


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Re: man segmentation fault

1998-03-24 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Bujtar Janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello !
 
 
 Today my debian hamm started to fail when i want to see a man page
 
 Every time i  want to see man pages (any!!!) the result is core dumped.
 
 Stracing the man the last message is  Updating index cache for path..
 
 
 Any ideas?

As root, run 'mandb -c' - man occasionally gets its index file
corrupted.  This fixes it.

Has anyone put this question in the FAQ-O-Matic yet?


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HP DeskJet 722c - samba attached - no color

1998-03-24 Thread Rick Macdonald

We replaced the HP LaserJet II on a Win95 box with an HP
Deskjet 722c. Through samba from Linux, I can print text
and greyscale PostScript (from Netscape) but when I try
color from Netscape nothing prints. I see activity on the
net (blinking lights on the hub) but nothing seems to happen
at the Win95 end.

I'm using dj550c-filter from magicfilter_1.2-10 (from bo) and
gs-aladdin 5.03-0.99.

The 722c turns out to be a Windows Only printer, according
to the manuals, but since greyscale works I would think that
color should too.

Any ideas?

...RickM...


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Re: Parallel ZIP drive (not Plus) and modules ??

1998-03-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 08:56:49PM +, Andrew M.A.Cater [Andy] wrote:
 I'm having great problems getting my parallel Zip drive recognised under
 2.0.33.  The dmesg error says '0 scsi hosts detected ' - on other
 occasions I have device busy on parallel port.
 
 My motherboard allows me to configure
 
 auto
 compatible
 ECP
 EPP 
 
 and to specify addresses for the parallel ports.  Which should I 
 use?

I got the device busy messages until I set my parallel port
to EPP only. No EPP+ECP, not ECP, just EPP. Then it worked.

To use lp and ppa at the same time you need the new parport stuff --
I think this is in Linux 2.1 only.


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initdb error while configuring postgresql 6.3-2

1998-03-24 Thread James Dietrich

While installing postgresql 6.3-2 with dselect, the following error message
appears during the config phase:

Setting up postgresql (6.3-2) ...
Now installing the PostgreSQL database files in /var/postgres/data
su - postgres -c initdb -l /usr/lib/postgresql/lib -r /var/postgres/data -u 
postgres
-sh: initdb: command not found
dpkg: error processing postgresql (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
 postgresql

I have made sure that /usr/lib/postgresql/bin in part of root's PATH.  In fact,
if I exit dselect and type initdb at the command line, the message about
needing to specify some options to initdb is printed, so I know that it is
finding initdb.

What do I need to do to finish configuring postgresql?

I am running the latest from hamm, and do not have the package secure-su
installed.  Is that package needed?

Thanks for your help.

James


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Re: AccelX on Debian

1998-03-24 Thread Norbert Veber
On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 11:46:52AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
 Hi Jonas,
 
 I tried the Accelerated-X demo on my hamm system.  It worked without a
 glitch, except for some monitor timings that I will have to convert from
 XF86Config style to XI style.
 
 I haven't tried the Accelerated-X server on any bo system.  Sorry I
 couldn't be of any help.
 
actually, the real thing doesn't work, the X server itself works, but accelx
4.1 comes with its own xinit and xdm, etc, which complain about unresolved
symbols in some library (it doesn't say which).


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Re: Programming hints.

1998-03-24 Thread C.J.LAWSON


On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What about CTRL + C. Is that a signal? 
 
 Yes it is. I don't know what signal exactly it is. SIGINT ? SIGTERM ?
 
  If not, how can a do something before
  exiting from CTRL + C?
What you want to do is catch the signal. Typically it will require the
signal function (man signal), you have to rewrite a function to do what
you want and then install that as the defacto signal handler ... There is
(if my memory serves me right) an example in the book, the Joy of C
(local lib) and I think some other ones in Plauger's book (I hope that is
the spelling of his name).

Jonathan 


 
 
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Re: Ultra ATA Hard Drives

1998-03-24 Thread Steve Hsieh

Yes, it is possible, but not without some work.  If you want to use a
stable kernel, you need to rebuild a 2.0.33 kernel with the promise_ide
patch in order to recognize the promise ultra ide card.  Patch can be
found at http://www.huwig.de/linux/mama/20-newdriver.html.  But even then,
only DMA mode is supported. For built-in promise IDE and UDMA support, use
a developmental kernel such as 2.1.90.



On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, John Paul Lorenti wrote:

 I'm trying to install Debian on a friend's computer. She has a Gateway
 G6-233 with a Promise Ultra ATA harddrive controller card and a Western
 Digital Caviar UATA-IDE 4GB . The installer doesn't pick up the hard
 drive at all if it is connected to the Promise board. When connected to
 the motherboard, the drive won't boot into win95 and it fails linux's
 bad block scan when trying to create linux partitions.
 
 Is it possible to set up Linux on an Ultra ATA hard drive at this point?
 If so, can you point me to some details on how? I tried Deja News, but
 the messages seemed inconclusive.
 
 Thank you for your time,
 
 John Paul
 
 
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sound

1998-03-24 Thread David B Wilson
Has anyone had success getting sound to work with a Yamaha OPL3-SA on
a laptop?  The HowTo lists the Yamaha OPL3, but my lack of success has
me wondering if the OPL3-SA is different somehow.  I pretty consistently
get the boot-time error message
sb: Interrupt test on IRQ5 failed - device disabled
  David


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RealPlayer 5.0b3 problems

1998-03-24 Thread Kiyan Azarbar
Has anyone had success with installing the rvplayer-installer package? 
I have no idea how to do it correctly. I put the rvplayer tarfile in /tmp,
and even manually ran dpkg -i rvplayer.whatever, and it looked ok. However
using rvplayer results in that same Error 71, your rvplayer is out of date
message.

Any thoughts? I think they're up to version 5.0b4 now, but that wasn't the
problem then.

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Sanyo CD drive prevents boot

1998-03-24 Thread Aaron Brick

I have here a Sanyo H94-A CD drive which I am havign trouble installing.
If I turn on my computer with it plugged into the IDE bus, it won't boot
(nothing on the screen, no boot noises). If I unplug it from the IDE bus
but leave it connected to power, it insists it's busy 100% of the time and
thus won't open.

My inclination is that since the problem arises long before the OS comes
into play, it is not a question of software at all. Maybe I just don't
know how to wire it right. One other odd thing is that it has no
master/slave switch; I have no idea if these could be connected.

If anyone has any suggestions for me, I would appreciate them greatly.

Thanks.

Aaron Brick.


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Re: AccelX on Debian

1998-03-24 Thread Ossama Othman
The Accel-X's xinit and xdm don't work on Debian?  Did you try running ldd
on them to see what libraries they are linked to, and then check to see if
you actually have the libraries.  If you have them, try running nm on
the library to see if the function has actually been resolved or defined
in the libraries.  The offending symbols may or may not show up in the
library, depending on whether or not the object files inside the library
were linked incrementally.

If you do find out what is causing Accel-X's xinit and xdm to not work,
then please let me (us) know since I am considering purchasing
Accelerated-X, too.

Thanks.
-Ossama

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Re: i lost my willpower!!

1998-03-24 Thread Shaleh
I would vote for waiting.  If nothing else until we developers can
upload new versions of our packages and the orphaned/buggy packages can
be fixed.  At least wait a week or so.


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Re: HAMM: Recomended for update?

1998-03-24 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:

 I got through the initial part using the ftp method and had only one file
 missed (libc5).  I downloaded that and re-ran the script and it went very
 smoothly.  Dselect didn't report any missing dependencies, which looks
 promising.
 
 I'm now letting dselect grab a bunch of other stuff and will then reboot.
 It looks very good so far.  The test will come when I reboot.

The saga continues after several hours of downloading.  I got all the
updates selected by dselect, but had a bunch of errors.

Repeating the installation process a few times got several other packages
installed, but there were still some errors which didn't resolve:

dpkg: regarding .../base/sysvinit_2.74-3.deb containing sysvinit:
 sysvinit conflicts with kbd ( 0.95-2)
  kbd (version 0.92-3.1) is installed.
dpkg: error processing
debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/base/sysvinit_2.74-3.deb
(--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing sysvinit
(Reading database ... 16678 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kbd 0.92-3.1 (using .../base/kbd_0.95-6.deb) ...
Moving local data files for kbd from /usr/lib/kbd/ to /usr/local/share/
...
rmdir: /usr/lib/kbd: Directory not empty
dpkg: error processing
debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/base/kbd_0.95-6.deb (--install):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
Unpacking lesstifg (from .../libs/lesstifg_0.83-2.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing
debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/libs/lesstifg_0.83-2.deb
(--install):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.0', which is also in package
lesstif
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
dpkg: considering removing libdb1-dev in favour of libc6-dev ...
libdb1-dev is not properly installed - ignoring any dependencies on it.
dpkg: yes, will remove libdb1-dev in favour of libc6-dev.
dpkg: regarding .../libc6-dev_2.0.7pre1-4.deb containing libc6-dev:
 libc6-dev conflicts with libgdbm1-dev
  libgdbm1-dev (version 1.7.3-19) is broken due to postinst failure.
dpkg: error processing
debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/devel/libc6-dev_2.0.7pre1-4.deb
(--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing libc6-dev
dpkg: considering removing xlib6 in favour of xlib6g ...
dpkg: yes, will remove xlib6 in favour of xlib6g.
dpkg: regarding .../x11/xlib6g_3.3.1-2.deb containing xlib6g:
 xlib6g conflicts with xlib6-dev ( 3.3-5)
  xlib6-dev (version 3.3-4) is installed.
dpkg: error processing
debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/xlib6g_3.3.1-2.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing xlib6g
Errors were encountered while processing:
 debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/base/sysvinit_2.74-3.deb
 debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/base/kbd_0.95-6.deb
 debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/libs/lesstifg_0.83-2.deb
 debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/devel/libc6-dev_2.0.7pre1-4.deb
 debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/xlib6g_3.3.1-2.deb
DPKG ERROR
 
I then ran the [R]emove process in dselect, which removed a few of the
conflicting packages, and ended up with only the kbd and sysvinit
problems.  I deleted /usr/lib/kbd and ran [I]nstall again.  kbd
installed but wouldn't configure because of dependency problems, while
sysvinit still didn't install.  Running [I]nstall once more installed
sysvinit.

I then ran [C]onfig, which configure kbd plus a whole lot more.

At this point everything looked clean, except for several packages which
are listed as Obsolete/Local.  I assume that this is because they are
packages which existed in bo, but not in hamm.

The bottom line is that I was able to update successfully, but not
quite painlessly.  It will still be a while before hamm goes from
frozen to stable and I expect that things will be made a bit easier during
this period.

Bob



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Re: Attn: Newbies Re: Random Broken Pipe

1998-03-24 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** Reply to note from Art Lemasters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 23 Mar 1998   
 00:20:29 -0600 (CST) 
 
  default, or my bo was broken.  In any case, less was an excellent idea 
  for a default for manpage paging.  
  
 Quite honestly I can't think of any DOS, Windows or OS/2 text file viewer   
 program I've used over the last 10 years that didn't have the simple   
 features of search and page up/down and backscroll.  I couldn't believe my   
 senses weren't playing tricks on me the first time I installed Debian Linux   
 and found out the default file viewer didn't include page up/down! grin 
  

I could be wrong, but I think DOS's more command has no backscroll.


   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: sound

1998-03-24 Thread Alex Romosan
i got it to work, but unfortunately i don't have the laptop right
here. i'll try to get my friend to email me sound.conf file and i'll
forward that to you as soon as i get it.

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Debian PGP 5.5.3, importing keys question

1998-03-24 Thread Steven Morrill
Hello All,

I recently got pgp 5.5.3 running on the NT (I know...gag!) side of
my box. I want to use pgp
with Debian, of course, and the most recent version I've found seems to
be 5.0 for Linux. I
created new keys, both RSA  Diffie-Hellman keys under 5.5.3 and NT. If
I get pgp installed
in Debian, does anybody know if I can simply copy those keyrings from
the NT side to the Debian
side pgp, and if they will work?

   Pgp seems to be getting updated on an almost weekly basis, with all
sorts of hacks popping up.
If anybody has had any particular success with a certain version, I'd
like to hear about it. BTW,
I'm using Debian 1.3 (bo) from the boot disk with XFree86  Netscape
4.04.

   TIA!

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Re: initdb error while configuring postgresql 6.3-2

1998-03-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
James Dietrich wrote:
  
  While installing postgresql 6.3-2 with dselect, the following error message
  appears during the config phase:
  
  Setting up postgresql (6.3-2) ...
  Now installing the PostgreSQL database files in /var/postgres/data
  su - postgres -c initdb -l /usr/lib/postgresql/lib -r /var/postgres/data -u 
  postgres
  -sh: initdb: command not found
  dpkg: error processing postgresql (--configure):
   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   postgresql
  
  I have made sure that /usr/lib/postgresql/bin in part of root's PATH.  In fa
  ct,
  if I exit dselect and type initdb at the command line, the message about
  needing to specify some options to initdb is printed, so I know that it is
  finding initdb.
  
  What do I need to do to finish configuring postgresql?
  
  I am running the latest from hamm, and do not have the package secure-su
  installed.  Is that package needed?

secure-su is the problem here; it does not run ~user/.profile even if you
use `su - user  -c ...', so the path is not getting set correctly.
In the next postgresql release, the full path will be set explicitly in the
su command.

To get round your immediate problem, become the postgres user by logging
in directly or by `su - postgres'  (no -c command) and run initdb from
there.

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Re: more or less Newbies?

1998-03-24 Thread lucier
** Reply to note from Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:37:00 
-0500 (EST) 

 On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  wasn't about setting up servers...it was about setting up a USEABLE 
  default install for 
  NEWBIES.  Most installations are NOT going to be set up as servers, 
  regardless of whether or 
 
 It's simple to do this.  
 
Point is it is not simple for a newbie to do this. 
 
 Most newbies are going to use bash,  right, 
 rather than tcsh or ksh or something?  So put 

 eval $(lesspipe) 
 alias more=less 
 export PAGER=less 
 
That is similar to what I ended up doing...but finding out how to do it and 
what editor to use initially was not by   
any means simple.   
 

 in /etc/profile and life is good.  Then leave less and more where they are 
 in the filesystem,  and someone who NEEDS to run more (eg. when the /usr 
 filesystem's broke) can do so by unaliasing more or just running it with a 
 full path. 
 
Makes a lot of sense to me...leave the twiddling to the more experienced 
user who has a pretty good idea what's   
what...for rookie newbies, make things as straight forward as possible; 
having default access to the two   
pgup/pgdn keys that are on practically any i386 based system keyboard, fits 
that description, IMHO. 
 

  I don't mean to be rude here, but quite honestly this sounds like something 
  that may have 
  applied years ago when running resource and hardware limited systems.  I'll 
  repeat my original 
 
 Sure.  But engineering with these anchient ideas in mind is largely what 
 makes linux so stable and reliable.   
 
I'd really hate to think of adding these two keys (or the arrow scroll keys) to 
a utilitly such as more had the   
possibility of upsetting linux's stability. grin 
 

 Besides which,  when you're first setting up your system,  it's quite 
 possible that you might incorrectly configure some things that would make 
 less unusable,  like screen sizes and attributes.  
  
Hmmm...I never ran across anything that gave me the ability to change these 
parameters in the base install.  
 
  page up/down and backscroll.If it takes a second floppy disk to round 
  out a decent set of 
  emergency programs then what's the big deal about that?  In fact, IMHO, the 
  benefits gained by 
 
 You can only put one in the drive at a time,  unfortunately. :) 

And can't take it out again to run another program on a second disk?  This is 
LINUX we're talking about, right??   
big grin while playing devils advocate 
 
Thanks for the comments Will:-) 
 




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Re: Programming hints.

1998-03-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
C.J.LAWSON wrote:
  
  
  On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
What about CTRL + C. Is that a signal? 
   
   Yes it is. I don't know what signal exactly it is. SIGINT ? SIGTERM ?

Strictly speaking, ctrl-c can be made to generate SIGINT, and this is the
default in Debian.  However, this can be changed by the command stty.
Many systems use DEL instead of ctrl-c

If not, how can a do something before
exiting from CTRL + C?
  What you want to do is catch the signal. Typically it will require the
  signal function (man signal), you have to rewrite a function to do what
  you want and then install that as the defacto signal handler ... There is
  (if my memory serves me right) an example in the book, the Joy of C
  (local lib) and I think some other ones in Plauger's book (I hope that is
  the spelling of his name).

I missed the beginning of this thread, so this may be right off the point
for the original poster:

In shell script, use trap to catch a signal and do something before exit
(or just ignore it completely).  You can't catch signal 9 (SIGKILL) and 
one or two others.

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HELP, I screwed up my system

1998-03-24 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hello all:

This past weekend I did a raw install of hamm.
I have a few problems but I got it running and fairly stabilized.
Because I am The master of disaster I thought I would 
fiddle around with the lilo.conf. I changed it such that
it now contains append=mem=64m, then ran lilo.
Now when it boots, linux tell me I have 0/0 megs of memory.
and then stops. 

Can someone tell me how I can restore the old lilo/boot or
do I have to do a complete re-install of hamm again ?

NOTE: I only have the debian rescue floppy to boot from.


Thanks in advance


Peter



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Scrollbars II

1998-03-24 Thread Matt Thompson
Hi, all,

OK, I figured out that the cause of my 'problem' is the Xaw3dg package
required by gv.  I've read all the documentation regarding scrollbars and
even tried downloading the sources from ftp.x.org, but the directions
given in /usr/doc/Xaw3dg/scrollbars didn't work for me.  It said
'./debian.rules: no such file or directory'.

I guess the only thing I would like to do is make it so that the scrollbar
in xconsole has the same smooth, gray look it used to have.  Is there any
way to do this?  I like gv and I guess I want to have my cake and eat it,
too. :)

TIA for any help,
Matt


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Re: AccelX on Debian

1998-03-24 Thread Nils Ackermann
Jonas Bofjall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 After the AccelX installation however, none of the previously installed
 X-programs works. Upon startup they give a `floating point exception'
 and then dies. Not even xdm works.
 
 I think the problem is related to X-lib, because running the programs
 without a valid $DISPLAY will *not* cause the error. Compiling
 programs from scratch does not work.

I'm running AccelX 4.1 with debian 1.3.1. After some problems it works
smoothly. 

1. I had to install termcap-compat for the setup program that comes
with the server.

2. I had to purge all of the Xfree stuff. Those libraries have higher
version numbers than the libraries AccelX provides, thus they get
linked automatically at boot to the generic names instead of the
AccelX ones. Make sure there is nothing left on your system Xfree
provides, and then reinstall AccelX.

Example: 

libXext.so -- libXext.so.6.3  wrong!
libXext.so -- libXext.so.6.1 correct!


Nils Ackermann


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Re: 2 questions

1998-03-24 Thread Adam Edwards
At 09:19 AM 3/23/98 -0500, Paul McDermott wrote:
a picture every minute and it is put on my web page.  I want to have my
updated quickcam image overlayed onto the quickcam window image.  My
question is.  Can I? and How do I do it in html.  I've looked through the
html help files in lynx and I can't seem to find the answer.  I hope this
is understable to you and you have some suggestions.  Thanks for your
help.
I could be wrong but... assuming you use the same name for the picture 
as
you referenced in the img tag of the html file you should be able to use
the meta refresh tag with a setting of 60.  This will force most later
browsers to refetch the contents of the page. (html and associated images)
This would result in the new image of the same name to overwrite the old on
the display and in the users cache.
I'm sure there are more elegant solutions. (This one forces a complete
reload of all text and images on the page, IIRC, not just reloading the
picture.)  It should do what you want though.

My .02,
A


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Install troubles

1998-03-24 Thread Wolf Logan
Howdy! I'm trying to install Debian 1.3.1 onto my no-name system. I wrote a
CD with the standard distribution CD image, and wrote a Rescue disk to
install with. When I boot my system with the Rescue disk, it runs the
loader, loads and decompresses linux, and begins the boot process. However,
at some point (I don't know where), it reboots my computer. This makes it
awful tough to see where it's failing, or in what way, since the screen's
gone in less than an eyeblink.

My system is a EFA P5TVX motherboard with 40MB RAM. It's got several cards
in it, but nothing too out-of-the-ordinary: a Diamond Stealth 3D 3000 board,
a Televideo sound board, an internal modem (cheap off-brand), and a NE2000
clone network card.

I realize that I'm using cheap components, so I can't expect them to work
perfectly, but this business of rebooting during install is a little
disconcerting. Anyone have any clue what I should look for?

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FTP slow in one direction across PPP link

1998-03-24 Thread Phil Nitschke
I have a fairly recent hamm installation, and  I connect up to my work
using pppd 2.3.2 via a (Chase Iolan)  communications server.  I've set
my domain name to  be the  same  as the  local domain  at work, so  my
machine appears much like any remote node on my work subnet.

I've been seeing some  very bad FTP xfer rates  recently, but  only in
one direction.   For example, I  transferred a  1756274 byte binary in
591 secs (2.9 Kbytes/sec) when xferring to work (i.e. put), but when
I try  to xfer data  the other way (i.e.  get), it slows to a crawl.
The  transfer is characterised by a  few-second-long burst of activity
every minute  or so (with no  PPP  traffic between bursts),  until the
peer becomes bored and resets the connection.

Questions:

1/. Is  there anything about   the hamm S/W  that might  contribute to
this?

2/.  Could my permissions/authorisations (or  that of my work network)
mean  that  xfers in one  direction require   more authentication than
those that occur in the other?

3/. Where is the best place for me to start investigating this?

Many thanks for your help,

-- 
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Re: Install troubles

1998-03-24 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hay Wolf:

What I would do in this case is remove the hardware that
you don't need to perform an install.

It could be an interrupt problem, or something like that.
Once the system is up and running, you can put the
hardware back in. Just get ride of the sound card and
modem. Also; Make sure your bios settings are in
default mode and you are not using the memory hole.

You could also try booting another PC (if you have one).
If the same thing happens, you may have a bad floppy.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Wolf Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 5:59 AM
Subject: Install troubles


Howdy! I'm trying to install Debian 1.3.1 onto my no-name system. I wrote a
CD with the standard distribution CD image, and wrote a Rescue disk to
install with. When I boot my system with the Rescue disk, it runs the
loader, loads and decompresses linux, and begins the boot process. However,
at some point (I don't know where), it reboots my computer. This makes it
awful tough to see where it's failing, or in what way, since the screen's
gone in less than an eyeblink.

My system is a EFA P5TVX motherboard with 40MB RAM. It's got several cards
in it, but nothing too out-of-the-ordinary: a Diamond Stealth 3D 3000
board,
a Televideo sound board, an internal modem (cheap off-brand), and a NE2000
clone network card.

I realize that I'm using cheap components, so I can't expect them to work
perfectly, but this business of rebooting during install is a little
disconcerting. Anyone have any clue what I should look for?

---
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Re: more or less Newbies?

1998-03-24 Thread lucier
** Reply to note from Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 24 Mar 1998 
00:40:58   
+0100 
 
 The one thing that remains for me to say is that I didn't want to object 
 against less as the default pager. I just wanted to point out that more is a 
 UNIX power tool, and that it does make sense to have more but not less on a 
 system. 
 
And all I was trying to point out was that for newbies, IMHO, it makes more 
sense to have a utility that uses the two   
keys that are present on practically every keyboard in existence today, 
pgup/pgdn,  rather them having to go to   
commandline and arguments to accomplish the same thing.  At the time of my 
original message, noone was talking   
about power tools or power users.  I have *no* problems with more being 
included in any release but to my mind   
it is far, far easier for a experienced unix/linux user to change their scripts 
etc than it is for a newbie just starting   
out exploring a new OS.  :-) 
 
 However, it is not a bug that you can't scroll back in man pages with more. 
 The reason is, that man feeds the formatted man page with a pipe (another 
 
And as can be seen from this example, even experienced users are not always 
aware of the whys and   
wherefores. shrug 
 
 Another point I want to stress is the importance of regular expressions, a 
 concept that in the three operating systems mentioned by lucier is not even 
 known.  
 
While I must admit, I am certainly not up on all the ins and outs of regular 
expressions, a quick check of Deja   
News or larger OS/2 file sites will show there are plenty of utilties, editors 
etc that support regular expressions;   
some of them have even been ported from Unix (which unless I am mistaken a lot 
of linux utilities are ported from;   
please feel free to correct me on this if I am mistaken).  The Enhanced Editor 
(EPM) which is included with OS/2   
has the following description in its INF file: 
 
  7. GREP - this is a Search option that  
 lets you perform searches using regular  
 expressions, a powerful feature that  
 lets you search for patterns in addition  
 to specific strings.  
 
  5. extended GREP (including subexpression  
 replacement for Change command) -  
 adds alternation, grouping, and macros  
 (e.g., :o = optional whitespace) to the  
 standard GREP search.  
 
Want to roll your own...OS/2 comes with its own scripting language REXX 
(Note: I do not claim to be an expert   
on REXX either but from what I have read and understand REXX can be made to do 
regular expression   
searches). 
 
FWIW, quite a few unix goodies have been ported to OS/2 (emacs, grep, less, 
bash, lesstif, tcsh, zsh,) to name   
some that I have on my BBS here but it is in no way a full listing of all the 
ports. 
 
Anyways, I do have a question for you (or anyone else)...when is the next 
stable release of Debian due?  I am   
doing some beta testing for a new Java application that the author wishes to 
test out in the linux enviroment but I   
find that my installed edition of Debian seems to be out of date with respect 
to what is needed for running the   
current Java releases.  Rather than go through a bunch of upgrading, I would 
rather just go with a fresh install of   
the new Debian release so it would be nice to have some kind of time frame on 
this matter. 
 
Any information on the above matter would be appreciated..:-) 
 



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Re: more or less Newbies?

1998-03-24 Thread lucier
** Reply to note from Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 24 Mar 1998 
00:40:58
+0100  
  
 The one thing that remains for me to say is that I didn't want to object  
 against less as the default pager. I just wanted to point out that more is a  
 UNIX power tool, and that it does make sense to have more but not less on a  
 system.  
  
And all I was trying to point out was that for newbies, IMHO, it makes more 
sense to have a utility that uses the two
keys that are present on practically every keyboard in existence today, 
pgup/pgdn,  rather them having to go to
commandline and arguments to accomplish the same thing.  At the time of my 
original message, noone was talking
about power tools or power users.  I have *no* problems with more being 
included in any release but to my mind
it is far, far easier for a experienced unix/linux user to change their scripts 
etc than it is for a newbie just starting
out exploring a new OS.  :-)  
  
 However, it is not a bug that you can't scroll back in man pages with more.  
 The reason is, that man feeds the formatted man page with a pipe (another  
  
And as can be seen from this example, even experienced users are not always 
aware of the whys and
wherefores. shrug  
  
 Another point I want to stress is the importance of regular expressions, a  
 concept that in the three operating systems mentioned by lucier is not even  
 known.   
  
While I must admit, I am certainly not up on all the ins and outs of regular 
expressions, a quick check of Deja
News or larger OS/2 file sites will show there are plenty of utilties, editors 
etc that support regular expressions;
some of them have even been ported from Unix (which unless I am mistaken a lot 
of linux utilities are ported from;
please feel free to correct me on this if I am mistaken).  The Enhanced Editor 
(EPM) which is included with OS/2
has the following description in its INF file:  
  
  7. GREP - this is a Search option that   
 lets you perform searches using regular   
 expressions, a powerful feature that   
 lets you search for patterns in addition   
 to specific strings.   
  
  5. extended GREP (including subexpression   
 replacement for Change command) -   
 adds alternation, grouping, and macros   
 (e.g., :o = optional whitespace) to the   
 standard GREP search.   
  
Want to roll your own...OS/2 comes with its own scripting language REXX 
(Note: I do not claim to be an expert
on REXX either but from what I have read and understand REXX can be made to do 
regular expression
searches).  
  
FWIW, quite a few unix goodies have been ported to OS/2 (emacs, grep, less, 
bash, lesstif, tcsh, zsh,) to name
some that I have on my BBS here but it is in no way a full listing of all the 
ports.  
  
Anyways, I do have a question for you (or anyone else)...when is the next 
stable release of Debian due?  I am
doing some beta testing for a new Java application that the author wishes to 
test out in the linux enviroment but I
find that my installed edition of Debian seems to be out of date with respect 
to what is needed for running the
current Java releases.  Rather than go through a bunch of upgrading, I would 
rather just go with a fresh install of
the new Debian release so it would be nice to have some kind of time frame on 
this matter.  
  
Any information on the above matter would be appreciated..:-)  
  




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Re: AccelX on Debian

1998-03-24 Thread AUBORD Alain
I use AccelX with last version of Debian without too much problems. But I use
only the server, when I have tried to install all the package I get different
strange problems (xdm, xinit does not work well), if I deinstall the Xfree
package I get problem to run X programs (like library not found or core dump).

The main product is the server, and with that I am quite happy. To install
AccelX the best solution is:
 1) Download the demo version on Web server of XI
(www.xig.com)
 2) Test it (free 10 minute demo)
 3) Buy the complete package
 4) Do a custom installation and then install just the
AcceratedX package 

I hope this could help


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Re: Running X11 over a network

1998-03-24 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Ben Pfaff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Try this, which is slightly different:
 
 * Give 192.168.1.1 to the laptop.
 * Give 192.168.1.2 to the desktop.
 * Install any X software you want, but no xserver package, on the laptop.
 * Install only xserver-* (whichever you need), xbase, xlib6g on the server.

 * On the laptop do `export DISPLAY=192.168.1.2:0' in bash.
 * Run `startx', then `xhost +192.168.1.1' on the 486.
 * Run your xclients from the laptop command line.

How about running 'X -query 192.168.1.1' on the desktop?
This should give you the XDM-login of your laptop. IIRC every host can
connect to an XDM by default. Otherwise you need to add a line with a * to
/etc/X11/Xaccess.


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Re: Scrollbars II

1998-03-24 Thread David Wright
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Matt Thompson wrote:

 OK, I figured out that the cause of my 'problem' is the Xaw3dg package
 required by gv.  I've read all the documentation regarding scrollbars and
 even tried downloading the sources from ftp.x.org, but the directions
 given in /usr/doc/Xaw3dg/scrollbars didn't work for me.  It said
 './debian.rules: no such file or directory'.

If you download sources from ftp.x.org you won't be able to use the easy
Debian methods to compile them; you need the .dsc and .diff.gz files
from a Debian mirror to do that. Presumably what you read in /usr/doc/...
was information from a Debianised package.

(It's debian/rules BTW in case it really gave that error message.)

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Re: Ultra ATA Hard Drives

1998-03-24 Thread servis
You could also look at the Ultra-DMA mini-HOWTO, it address the Promise
card. http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA

Brian 

On 23 Mar, Steve Hsieh wrote:
 
 Yes, it is possible, but not without some work.  If you want to use a
 stable kernel, you need to rebuild a 2.0.33 kernel with the promise_ide
 patch in order to recognize the promise ultra ide card.  Patch can be
 found at http://www.huwig.de/linux/mama/20-newdriver.html.  But even then,
 only DMA mode is supported. For built-in promise IDE and UDMA support, use
 a developmental kernel such as 2.1.90.
 
 
 
 On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, John Paul Lorenti wrote:
 
 I'm trying to install Debian on a friend's computer. She has a Gateway
 G6-233 with a Promise Ultra ATA harddrive controller card and a Western
 Digital Caviar UATA-IDE 4GB . The installer doesn't pick up the hard
 drive at all if it is connected to the Promise board. When connected to
 the motherboard, the drive won't boot into win95 and it fails linux's
 bad block scan when trying to create linux partitions.
 
 Is it possible to set up Linux on an Ultra ATA hard drive at this point?
 If so, can you point me to some details on how? I tried Deja News, but
 the messages seemed inconclusive.
 
 Thank you for your time,
 
 John Paul
 


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Re: HELP, I screwed up my system

1998-03-24 Thread jdassen
On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 04:13:40AM -0500, Peter Iannarelli wrote:
[lilo messed up]
 Can someone tell me how I can restore the old lilo/boot or
 do I have to do a complete re-install of hamm again ?
 
 NOTE: I only have the debian rescue floppy to boot from.

Use the rescue floppy. At the syslinux prompt, use 
linux root=/dev/hda1
(assuming your regular Linux partition is the first partition on the first
IDE disk). Your system should come up regularly. Now edit the
/etc/lilo.conf, and run lilo.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Scrollbars II

1998-03-24 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, all,
 
 OK, I figured out that the cause of my 'problem' is the Xaw3dg package
 required by gv.  I've read all the documentation regarding scrollbars and
 even tried downloading the sources from ftp.x.org, but the directions
 given in /usr/doc/Xaw3dg/scrollbars didn't work for me.  It said
 './debian.rules: no such file or directory'.
 
 I guess the only thing I would like to do is make it so that the scrollbar
 in xconsole has the same smooth, gray look it used to have.  Is there any
 way to do this?  I like gv and I guess I want to have my cake and eat it,
 too. :)

I have 
$ dpkg -l xaw*
ii  xaw-wrappers0.17   allow use of programs with xaw replace
hi  xaw3d   1.3-6.1Adds a cute 3d to X apps using the at
ii  xaw3dg  1.3-6.1Adds a cute 3d to X apps using the a
pn  xaw95   none (no description available)
ii  xaw95g  1.1-4.1Windows 95-like look for X apps using

and it works just fine.

Check /etc/ld.so.conf. It should have lines like

/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95
/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/Xaw3d   

at the top.

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: Ultra ATA Hard Drives

1998-03-24 Thread John Paul Lorenti
Yes,  the Ultra-DMA mini how-to available at the address below in text format
and at
 http://www-scf.usc.edu/~vibber/linux/Ultra-DMA.html  in html seems to have all
the information I will need. Thanks a lot. I'll post a success report when I
get everything working.

John Paul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You could also look at the Ultra-DMA mini-HOWTO, it address the Promise
 card. http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA

 Brian

 On 23 Mar, Steve Hsieh wrote:
 
  Yes, it is possible, but not without some work.  If you want to use a
  stable kernel, you need to rebuild a 2.0.33 kernel with the promise_ide
  patch in order to recognize the promise ultra ide card.  Patch can be
  found at http://www.huwig.de/linux/mama/20-newdriver.html.  But even then,
  only DMA mode is supported. For built-in promise IDE and UDMA support, use
  a developmental kernel such as 2.1.90.
 
 
 
  On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, John Paul Lorenti wrote:
 
  I'm trying to install Debian on a friend's computer. She has a Gateway
  G6-233 with a Promise Ultra ATA harddrive controller card and a Western
  Digital Caviar UATA-IDE 4GB . The installer doesn't pick up the hard
  drive at all if it is connected to the Promise board. When connected to
  the motherboard, the drive won't boot into win95 and it fails linux's
  bad block scan when trying to create linux partitions.
 
  Is it possible to set up Linux on an Ultra ATA hard drive at this point?
  If so, can you point me to some details on how? I tried Deja News, but
  the messages seemed inconclusive.
 
  Thank you for your time,
 
  John Paul
 




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Re: sound

1998-03-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 11:01:18PM -0500, David B Wilson wrote:
 Has anyone had success getting sound to work with a Yamaha OPL3-SA on
 a laptop?  The HowTo lists the Yamaha OPL3, but my lack of success has
 me wondering if the OPL3-SA is different somehow.  I pretty consistently
 get the boot-time error message
 sb: Interrupt test on IRQ5 failed - device disabled
   David

Maybe a conflict? What is the output of

$ cat /proc/interrupts

Marcus


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Re: more or less Newbies?

1998-03-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

Please shorten your lines...

On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 12:03:59AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ** Reply to note from Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:37:00 
 -0500 (EST) 
  
 Makes a lot of sense to me...leave the twiddling to the more experienced
 user who has a pretty good idea what's   
 what...for rookie newbies, make things as straight forward as possible;
 having default access to the two   
 pgup/pgdn keys that are on practically any i386 based system keyboard,
 fits that description, IMHO. 

Well, the point is that Linux is not only for 102 keyboards, but for a lot
of keyboards and terminals. Linux (and therefore Debian) is not only for
i386 systems, buut also for Amiga, m68k, alpha, sparc, etc... so you can't
make assumptions about the hardware. You have to rely on the termcap info if
you need extended features. Maybe they are there (quite often there are),
but if they are not there, less fails and more not.

   I don't mean to be rude here, but quite honestly this sounds like 
   something that may have 
   applied years ago when running resource and hardware limited systems.  
   I'll repeat my original 
  
  Sure.  But engineering with these anchient ideas in mind is largely what 
  makes linux so stable and reliable.   
  
 I'd really hate to think of adding these two keys (or the arrow scroll keys) 
 to a
 utilitly such as more had the possibility of upsetting linux's stability. 
 grin 

We only try to be perfect ;)

   page up/down and backscroll.If it takes a second floppy disk to 
   round out a decent set of 
   emergency programs then what's the big deal about that?  In fact, IMHO, 
   the benefits gained by 
  
  You can only put one in the drive at a time,  unfortunately. :) 
 
 And can't take it out again to run another program on a second disk?  This is 
 LINUX we're talking about, right??   
 big grin while playing devils advocate 

You can't, because the root file system is on the disk with all the
libraries etc... (well, you can if you create a RAM drive and copy the root
disk to the RAM drive and remount, but it is not trivial).

This is LINUX we're talking about.

PS: Debian 2.0 comes out in ca. four weeks. But you have missed the power
of dpkg if you prefer a fresh install over an upgrade...

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Re: xdm, X, fvwm2 : newbie questions

1998-03-24 Thread David Wright
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Gabor Kontur wrote:

 Is there a way to influence the typematic delay of the keyboard? Characters
  start to duplicate themselves when i keep a key  pressed longer than about
 one fifth of a second.

#!/bin/sh

# mS
DELAY=500

# cps
REPEAT=15

/sbin/kbdrate -r $REPEAT -d $DELAY

exit 0

Put a file like that into /etc/rc.boot

 When i start ae in an xterm window i cannot use the arrow keys to scroll.

Annoying, isn't it. Just use a VC instead.

 the script /etc/init.d/gpm produced the following message at startup:
 gpm -m help -t ps2 -r help/usr/sbin/gpm: help: No such file or directory
 My mouse is indeed PS2 and at startup i get this message as well:
 PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected. driver installed
 The mouse works fine with X  so i simply scratched the useless call to
 /etc/init.d/gpm.

Overcleaning. So, there was an error message. At best, if you make
changes to these sorts of configuration files, you'll make a lot of work
for yourself when you upgrade, because the upgrade scripts will detect
these changes and think the files must be preserved. At worst, you could
break the system.

 The question is: how do i adjust the responsiveness of the mouse which is
 rather slow at the moment ( meaning that the distances the mouse travels on
 my mouse pad are too large).

My /etc/gpm.conf has (through gpmconfig)

device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=30
type=ps2
append=-R

The -R means, of course, that I have 

Section Pointer
ProtocolMouseSystems
Device  /dev/gpmdata

in /etc/X11/XF86Config

 So i reverted to using twm for a while but now i use fvwm2.
 With that i have one major problem: At the initial login (as root) it does
 not execute the profile scripts as for a login shell but rather another
 script (probably the one that ends with a rc).

What gets called, and when, is quite complicated. I stick most stuff in
.bachrc and call it from .bash_profile, others use links to achieve
similar ends.

 When i start  xterm (which is not started automatically) i can login just
 fine as another user but not as root. It says incorrect login or
 something to that effect.
 What might be the cause of this problem ?

I'm not quite sure when you mean that you have to login, but two thoughts:
does your root password contain any funny characters that might be
misplaced because of your keyboard selection; I've yet to find how to
correct typos when typing a password into su.

 I thought i´d mention though that i had a crash. Now if this was windows
 95, i´d say that´s absolutely normal, but this really worries me.  It
 started with one of my terminals freezing up ( it was displaying a manual
 page).

If and when a VC freezes on me, I just switch to another VC and kill the
first. init will respawn it.

 So i decided to shut down quickly but i wasn´t quick enough because
 the terminal i ran shutdown from froze up during shutdown .   

Well, it would, wouldn't it? I don't know the order in which shutdown
works, but I assume things must stop working!

 Finally i had to press the reset button.

The best way to shut down in an orderly fashion is Ctrl-Alt-Del. About the
only thing you lose is updating .bash_history for logged-in sessions.

 I wasn´t really doing anything unusual, except maybe restarting xdm many
 times over (to figure out how it works)  (with twm) .

Well X can freeze things, particularly if it captures all your keystrokes
etc. though some people use joystick tricks. I just log in through the
network (or an old vt220 at home) and kill X. Very little actually stops
linux.

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mail and mailer questions

1998-03-24 Thread Stephen Carpenter
I currently use Netscape 4.04 to read my -mail and get it off of my
ISPs mailserver. It works very well..sorts my mail (I never realized
when I subscribed
to both this list non-digest and the debian-devel list...I would get 241
e-mails
in 1 day!..sorting is a must!!!)
Anyway I read that 5.0 wil not have the mail client (being the free
version...
which is of course what I would prefer to use)
In anticipation of that fact...I am interested in looking into a new
mail setup
and I am looking for some information and recomendations
1) mail reader
I am looking for at least 1 good mail client. A nice X interface is
strongly prefered
but not required (sometimes its nice to have buttons since
I am usually in X). Ideally I would like 2 clients, one for use in X and
one for use
on a  charicter mode console.
It woul dbe best if these could share the same mailbox folder
(I know that most programs use a common format (same as netscapes?? I
think)
but usually have differnt default mail dir names...,.like they want thir
own)
I would prefer that this client would make for easy use of PGP (I don't
have a key
yet but...I am hopeing to eventually look into becomming a package
maintaner
for debian and I know that is a requirement)
2) I have had alot of troubles with configuring mail services under
debian
I use a dialup to an ISP, so my connection is not always up so I am not
sure
what the proper configuration is, I have more than once set it up wrong
and had it send messages forever to elbonia (and since my recent
re-format and redo after a major crash..
I havn't even tried)
what are the recomendations for my needs?
I would assume something like fetchmail and procmail (which I need to
setup anyway
for another project)
any help is apreciated
-Steve


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Re: HELP, I screwed up my system

1998-03-24 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hello all:

Thanks to everyone who responded.

Its alive.


Peter

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Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: HELP, I screwed up my system


On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 04:13:40AM -0500, Peter Iannarelli wrote:
[lilo messed up]
 Can someone tell me how I can restore the old lilo/boot or
 do I have to do a complete re-install of hamm again ?

 NOTE: I only have the debian rescue floppy to boot from.

Use the rescue floppy. At the syslinux prompt, use
 linux root=/dev/hda1
(assuming your regular Linux partition is the first partition on the first
IDE disk). Your system should come up regularly. Now edit the
/etc/lilo.conf, and run lilo.

HTH,
Ray
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Some odd errors / compatibility questions.

1998-03-24 Thread Timothy J. Miller
I'm installing a new linux machine, and I chose Debian 1.3.1rev6
for various reasons I won't go into here.

The install kernel is 2.0.29, and I immediately went forward to
compile 2.0.30.  While I'm sure this is several revisions backlevelled by 
now, bear with me.

The system is a home-built; PCI IDE motherboard housing a Cyrix
6x86-233, 32Mb EDO RAM, Acer 24x CDROM and a modem.

On the initial compile I started having problems with GCC dumping
out on unexpected signals (11).  From what I've read in the past, this is
indicative of memory problems, particularly with non-parity SIMMS.  So I
pulled a second set of 2-16Mb EDO fast RAM SIMMs from a running system
(*not* running Linux) and swapped them for mine.

No dice.  If anything, things are worse-- occasional messages
indicating the kmem is freeing non-kmapped(?) memory.  Once I work my way 
to a successful compilation of 2.0.30, the system fails to boot it (I'm
back booting the 2.0.29 default kernel).  Every so often something abends 
with a kernel unable to handle dereference of NULL pointer.
Compilations still breaking on unexpected signals.

Now, this all *still* sounds like bad memory to me, but I'm on my
second set of sticks here from 2 different sources (one set in fact was
pulled from a running system).  I find it hard to swallow that *both*
sets are worthless.

What am I missing?  Or should I return *both* set of sticks and
give up?

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Re: Some odd errors / compatibility questions.

1998-03-24 Thread jdassen
On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 07:54:49AM -0600, Timothy J. Miller wrote:
[sig 11 problem]

   On the initial compile I started having problems with GCC dumping
 out on unexpected signals (11).  From what I've read in the past, this is
 indicative of memory problems, particularly with non-parity SIMMS.  So I
 pulled a second set of 2-16Mb EDO fast RAM SIMMs from a running system
 (*not* running Linux) and swapped them for mine.
 
   No dice.  If anything, things are worse

   What am I missing?  Or should I return *both* set of sticks and
 give up?

Sig 11 isn't only caused by bad memory, it can also be caused by other bad
or misconfigured hardware. See http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ .

HTH,
Ray
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RESC1440.BIN

1998-03-24 Thread Mike Santner
I was attempting to install Debian from floppy but the RESC1440.BIN is
too large to fit on a 1.44 disk.  This seems to make installation
impossible.  Am I doing something wrong or what?  I ended up installing
from the hard drive.   Other than that, the installation is very easy
and straight forward.
Thanks,
Mike


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Re: kernel-source2.0.33

1998-03-24 Thread W Paul Mills
On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, John Maheu wrote:

 
 I've had some trouble with mounting iso9660 and msdos type fs with kernel
 2.0.33. The kernel complains that these fs types are not supported.
 However, they were built as modules and exist in /lib/modules/2.0.33/

This sounds like a problem with the necessary modules not loading. This
happens to me if I use filesystem type auto without the modules preloaded.
Could be a kerneld problem - Did you run depmod -a?
 
 I saw a bug report about needing to include NLS support in the kernel to
 solve this problem. So I put NLS in as a module, but this had no effect.
 
 Any ideas on how to fix this.
 Running stable with 
 kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-3_all.deb from bo-updates. 
 
 
 Thanks
 John
 
 
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AudioWave 16 AISA sound card, and sound-card IDE in general

1998-03-24 Thread Will Lowe
I'm buying an old 486 from a friend real cheap to use as a mail server.
The IDE card in it can only handle two ide devices,  the machine has two
hard drives,  an IDE cd-rom,  and an IDE tape drive.

THe latter two he's been running from the sound card ide interface ... is
it possible to do this in Linux?  I moved my cdrom on my other machine off
my soundblaster and onto the main IDE controller,  but that's not an
option in this 486 because the IDE card is full.

Also,  the sound card is an Audiowave 16 AISP (made by sony).  The
audiowave web page (found via altavista) says that the newer version,  the
AudioWave PCI something-or-other,  is SoundBlaster 16 compat. ... anyone
tried using the Audiowave 16 AISP under linux?  I don't really need it to
do sound (although if it does,  so much the better),  but I'm going to
need it for a while to do IDE stuff.


Will


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Re: mail and mailer questions

1998-03-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
Stephen Carpenter wrote:
  I currently use Netscape 4.04 to read my -mail and get it off of my
  ISPs mailserver. It works very well..sorts my mail (I never realized
  when I subscribed
  to both this list non-digest and the debian-devel list...I would get 241
  e-mails
  in 1 day!..sorting is a must!!!)

Is that all?

  Anyway I read that 5.0 wil not have the mail client (being the free
  version...
  which is of course what I would prefer to use)
  In anticipation of that fact...I am interested in looking into a new
  mail setup
  and I am looking for some information and recomendations
  1) mail reader
  I am looking for at least 1 good mail client. A nice X interface is
  strongly prefered
  but not required (sometimes its nice to have buttons since
  I am usually in X). Ideally I would like 2 clients, one for use in X and
  one for use
  on a  charicter mode console.
  It woul dbe best if these could share the same mailbox folder
  (I know that most programs use a common format (same as netscapes?? I
  think)
  but usually have differnt default mail dir names...,.like they want thir
  own)
  I would prefer that this client would make for easy use of PGP (I don't
  have a key
  yet but...I am hopeing to eventually look into becomming a package
  maintaner
  for debian and I know that is a requirement)
  2) I have had alot of troubles with configuring mail services under
  debian
  I use a dialup to an ISP, so my connection is not always up so I am not
  sure
  what the proper configuration is, I have more than once set it up wrong
  and had it send messages forever to elbonia (and since my recent
  re-format and redo after a major crash..
  I havn't even tried)
  what are the recomendations for my needs?
  I would assume something like fetchmail and procmail (which I need to
  setup anyway
  for another project)
  any help is apreciated


You describe my own situation.

I use diald with isdnutils ippp for contacting my ISP.

Mail collection: fetchmail to download from my ISP and pass mail to sendmail

Mail delivery: sendmail, calling procmail to distribute mail from my single
ISP mail-box to multiple users on this system. 

I also use procmail in my own user account to put mail into separate MH
folders before I even see it.

Mail reader: exmh, which is a Tk/Tcl front end to MH; it includes PGP
support and manages multiple folders, including nested folders.  It also
supports X-face pictures and can notify you of new mail with visual and
audible signals.  MH can be used in character windows or outside X.  It has
the further benefit (to my mind) that it makes each messge a separate file,
so that it is easy to find and handle messages with non-mail commands.
For example, if someone has mailed a patch:
  `patch -p1 ~/Mail/postgresql/hackers/28'

If you would like to see any configuration files, just ask...

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Re: Some odd errors / compatibility questions.

1998-03-24 Thread Joost Kooij
On 24 Mar 1998, Timothy J. Miller wrote:

   The system is a home-built; PCI IDE motherboard housing a Cyrix
 6x86-233, 32Mb EDO RAM, Acer 24x CDROM and a modem.

You name the brand of the cdrom, but the motherboard goes unnamed. I'd
rather buy a quality motherboard than a cdrom. Remember, the quality of
the motherboard is vital to all parts of your system.  

BTW, if you're running a Cyrix 233, be sure that cooling is absolutely
superior (ie. spend the difference in price with an Intel/AMD on cooling.)
Hot processors can also be a cause of memory problems.

The cache on the board might be crappy too. Or just badly seated.

   On the initial compile I started having problems with GCC dumping
 out on unexpected signals (11).  From what I've read in the past, this is
 indicative of memory problems, particularly with non-parity SIMMS.  So I
 pulled a second set of 2-16Mb EDO fast RAM SIMMs from a running system
 (*not* running Linux) and swapped them for mine.

Look at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ to read more about possible causes
of the problems.

   No dice.  If anything, things are worse-- occasional messages
 indicating the kmem is freeing non-kmapped(?) memory.  Once I work my way 
 to a successful compilation of 2.0.30, the system fails to boot it (I'm
 back booting the 2.0.29 default kernel).  Every so often something abends 
 with a kernel unable to handle dereference of NULL pointer.
 Compilations still breaking on unexpected signals.
 
   Now, this all *still* sounds like bad memory to me, but I'm on my
 second set of sticks here from 2 different sources (one set in fact was
 pulled from a running system).  I find it hard to swallow that *both*
 sets are worthless.

You might also want to try removing every card from the computer that you
can spare from the system while keeping it running. Swap the vga card with
a different, known-working one. Even try swapping the cpu.

Cheers,


Joost


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Dselect Question

1998-03-24 Thread Michael Acklin
Last night I tried to install some files from the FTP site via dselect. 
I
updated the package file and then when I tried to select the package, the
program was not available. I used the / search and could not find the
program name at all. 

The particular program I was looking for was Pine and Pico. I find them
both no problem with a web browser, but when I try it with dselect, no go.
Is there something I'm not doing right? Is there another way to install
these programs?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Dselect Question

1998-03-24 Thread Ian Keith Setford


Yo-

   The particular program I was looking for was Pine and Pico. I find
them
 both no problem with a web browser, but when I try it with dselect, no go.
 Is there something I'm not doing right? Is there another way to install
 these programs?

Download the .deb packages you want from the web (i.e. Pine and Pico) and
type (as root): dpkg -i (your .deb file goes here)

This should unpack and install any package you want.

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Re: Dselect Question

1998-03-24 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Michael Acklin wrote:

   Last night I tried to install some files from the FTP site via dselect. 
 I
 updated the package file and then when I tried to select the package, the
 program was not available. I used the / search and could not find the
 program name at all. 
 
   The particular program I was looking for was Pine and Pico. I find them
 both no problem with a web browser, but when I try it with dselect, no go.
 Is there something I'm not doing right? Is there another way to install
 these programs?

Do you have dselect set up to get the Packages files for non-free?  They
are both included there.

Bob


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Re: Dselect Question

1998-03-24 Thread Michael Acklin
At 10:20 AM 3/24/98 -0600, you wrote:

Download the .deb packages you want from the web (i.e. Pine and Pico) and
type (as root): dpkg -i (your .deb file goes here)

This should unpack and install any package you want.

-Ian

Ian,

Thanks for the info. Will try it tonight. Appreciate your quick reply


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Re: Some odd errors / compatibility questions.

1998-03-24 Thread Timothy J. Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Miller) writes:

   What am I missing?  Or should I return *both* set of sticks and
 give up?

Okay-- here's an update:

I hit the sig11 page I was pointed to and read it.  I tried
disabling the cache to no effect.  I *did* discover when I went to
downclock the CPU that the jumpers were set for a dual-voltage CPU
instead of single-voltage; fixed that, no change.

I haven't gotten to reclocking the CPU yet.  Instead I ran the
memory tester that was downloadable from the sig11 page.  I found that
any test above 10Mb failed with a segv.

So I swapped the sticks.  The memory test *still* failed at
11Mb.  Reenabled the cache and it still fails at 11Mb.

So now I'm running crippled booted with mem=10M, and everything
seems stable.  Right now I'm working on the hypothesis that there's an
addressing problem, but since neither I nor any of my coworkers knows
enough about the board or the Cyrix, we don't know if it's in the CPU or
on the board.

I'll try to get ahold of a replacement CPU ASAP.  If the test
fails at the same location after that, we'll know it's on the board.

If *anyone* has alternative theories or otherwise thinks I'm
barking up the wrong tree, *please* let me know.

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Re: Dselect Question

1998-03-24 Thread Michael Acklin
At 09:27 AM 3/24/98 -0700, you wrote:

Do you have dselect set up to get the Packages files for non-free?  They
are both included there.

Bob
 

At 09:27 AM 3/24/98 -0700, you wrote:


Do you have dselect set up to get the Packages files for non-free?  They
are both included there.

Bob


Bob,

I tried to get the package list for non-free, but it kept giving me an
error. I don't think I was in the right directory to update the non-free
package list. I tried to FTP to the site, but could only find the bo
-stable package list. Where would I set the dselect to point to the
non-free package list. No problems with the stable package list. 

What I mean is what directory is the non-free list in. I know how to set
up the Access on dselect, just didn't know which directory to point to.

Thanks for the reply.


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RE: man segmentation fault

1998-03-24 Thread Chip Grandits
Ulrich Jans posted a message about man segmentation fault.

Since I first installed debian (1.31) I have always get a segmentation fault 
error any time I attempt to use man for anything that's not in the man page.  
There doesn't seem to be any problem (It's just man's cute way of saying 'I 
have no entry for that') or is that an indication that something is seriously 
wrong?
-Chip



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Missing file for X

1998-03-24 Thread Chip Grandits
I am unable to run Xwindows.  I have debian 1.31.  I believe I have messed 
something up in an attempt to upgrade the SVGA server.  Ben Pfaff said I needed 
the latest version of the SVGA server to support my Matrox Millenium II, so I 
downloaded X332SVGA.tgz from an X site.  I am not clear how the X files are 
organized in debian, but I believe debian organizes X files differently than 
what the X people consider the standard.  

In any event, I unpacked the file X332SVGA.tgz from  /usr/X11R6/bin with the 
statement
gzip -dc /dosfloppy/x332svga.tgz | tar xfB - 
Further attempts to run Xwindows (before I at least got a 320X200 screen) 
result in  an error message
-X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 2
xinit: No such file or directory unable to connect to xserver

So I assume a file is missing but what file?
According to the X people the file /usr/X11R6/bin/X is suppose to be a symbolic 
link to the actual Xserver (for me XF86_SVGA) but even when I had it working at 
low resolution this was not the case.  Am I suppose to manually make the 
symbolic link with
ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA  /usr/X11R6/bin/X
or is there some upgrade script that I need to run?

-Thank you for bearing with a debian newbie
Chip


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re: atalkd error ???

1998-03-24 Thread Greg Frye
If you see this twice, I sent it a second time because it bounced back
the first time.

I posted this to the Debian users list because path, etc are different
than
the standard package paths that are mentioned in the Linux Journal
(January
 1998).  I thought that I might have done something wrong during the
package installation.  Has anyone installed netatalk?  Could anyone
point me
 in the right direction?  I have read HOWTO, netatalk pages, and the LJ
article
 and still can't find the clue.

p. s. I have shadow passwords on.

Greg Frye wrote:

 during system start up (netatalk), I get a message that says
 'atalkdsocket: Invalid argument'.  The only thing that I have changed
 from the default that deselect sets up is that I added 'eth0' to
 /etc/atalkd.conf.

 What do I need to add, change, ...?

 I'm new to Debian (some Slackware experience) and very new to
netatalk.

 Thanks for the help
 Greg Frye

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Re: Dselect Question

1998-03-24 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Michael Acklin wrote:

   I tried to get the package list for non-free, but it kept giving me an
 error. I don't think I was in the right directory to update the non-free
 package list. I tried to FTP to the site, but could only find the bo
 -stable package list. Where would I set the dselect to point to the
 non-free package list. No problems with the stable package list. 
 
   What I mean is what directory is the non-free list in. I know how to set
 up the Access on dselect, just didn't know which directory to point to.
 

Relative to /debian, when asked Enter space seperated list of
distributions to get, you should respond:

stable non-free contrib

HTH,

Bob




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Re: Missing file for X

1998-03-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
It looks like I may have given you misleading advice, or advice that
you have inadvertently misinterpreted.  The Debian X Window System is
set up slightly different from the standard XFree86 setup.  The file
/etc/X11/Xserver contains the full path to the X server as its first
line; /usr/X11R6/bin/X is not a symlink in this setup.

The only file that you needed to replace from X332SVGA.tgz was
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA.  Make sure that this file actually did get
updated and that nothing else got stomped on or overwritten.

Alternatively, it sounds like 3.3.2 will be in Debian Real Soon Now,
so you might just want to wait.

Hope this helps,

Ben.


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Re: Dselect Question

1998-03-24 Thread Michael Acklin
At 10:09 AM 3/24/98 -0700, you wrote:

Relative to /debian, when asked Enter space seperated list of
distributions to get, you should respond:

stable non-free contrib

HTH,

Bob

Bob,

Thanks, that's the one's I needed. I kept trying to put the full path 
name
and kept getting errors. I hadn't updated any other the non-stable lists
since I had installed debian, this last weekend. So this will help me a lot.

Thanks again for the info and reply. 



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Re: RESC1440.BIN

1998-03-24 Thread Bill Leach
Well I just copied resc1440.bin to a floppy last night.
Did you use?:  dd if=resc1440.bin of=/dev/fd0

Mike Santner wrote:
 
 I was attempting to install Debian from floppy but the RESC1440.BIN is
 too large to fit on a 1.44 disk.  This seems to make installation
 impossible.  Am I doing something wrong or what?  I ended up installing
 from the hard drive.   Other than that, the installation is very easy
 and straight forward.
 Thanks,
 Mike

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Re: Missing file for X

1998-03-24 Thread Ossama Othman
I just did the exact same upgrade that you did for my Matrox Millenium II
AGP.  Here are some pointers that may help you:

0. DO NOT setup a link from the server to X.  Debian uses the
/etc/X11/Xserver file to determine what X server to run.  IIRC,
/usr/X11R6/bin/X is a SUID wrapper so that X servers don't have to be
set SUID.

1. Check that server entry /etc/X11/Xserver is correct, i.e. pointing to
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA. It may be pointing to an incorrect server such
as XF86_VGA16 (which is the one that XF86Setup uses by default).

2. If you are going to reconfigure, you may need to replace XF86Setup with
the new one, too.  (I think it is in X332set.tgz).  The cards database
has been updated in XF86 3.3.2.  Also, you may need to replace XF86_VGA16
since the old one doesn't seem to work with the new XF86Setup.

3. If you do reconfigure, make sure that the XF86Config file is being
stored as /etc/X11/XF86Config.  XF86Config may be installed as
/etc/XF86Config by the non-Debianized XF86Setup.

4. DO NOT try to configure [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Millenium IIs do not support
this resolution at 32bpp.  I had all sorts of problems with this.

5.  If you will be running at 24bpp, add the following option to your
Device section:

Option  mga_24bpp_fix

This option is supposed to correct color distortion problems at 24bpp.

6.  Check that the server is detecting the right amount of video memory.
At first, the server was detecting 16MB of video memory even though I only
have 8MB!  If you have the same problem, configure the amount of memory
using XF86Setup or add the following to your Device section in the
XF86Config file:

VideoRam8192   --- change to whatever RAM you have
   --- (8MB = 8 * 1024K = 8192K)


I can't think of anything else right now.  It seems that this server is
still a little quirky which the Millenium II support, especially at
24bpp.  If you are going to need TrueColor visuals, you are probably
better off with the 32bpp mode, at least with the current server.

I hope all of this helps.

Good luck.

-Ossama

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Re: RESC1440.BIN

1998-03-24 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

 Well I just copied resc1440.bin to a floppy last night.
 Did you use?:  dd if=resc1440.bin of=/dev/fd0

Just out of curiosity, shouldn't there be a bs=126b in there somewhere.
For example:

dd if=resc1440.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=126b

I seem to be remember the Debian install docs mentioning something about
that.  I could be wrong, though.

-Ossama


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Re: mail and mailer questions

1998-03-24 Thread Rob Browning
Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am interested in looking into a new mail setup and I am looking
 for some information and recomendations

My highest recommendation is Gnus.  It's a fantastic mail program that
runs inside emacs, and handles news, so most of what you learn for
mail is applicable for news or for more general emacs editing
purposes.  It probably has more features than you could (would want
to) ever use.

Gnus easily handles threading your mail and news, and splitting your
incoming mail into different groups (mailboxes) based on whatever
criteria you like.  You'd use fetchmail to download your mail to your
machine and then Gnus to deal with it, and I'd recommend using the
Gnus nnmail backend which stores each message as a separate file, and
is faster than the other backends.

There are of course other good mail programs.  I used to use mh (and
exmh) before I switched to Gnus.

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Re: smbclient interface

1998-03-24 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 : 
 : Is there a smbclient interface that is something like mc's ftp interface?

Nope, at least not that I'm aware of.

Though I have some good news :)  In one of the next releases of samba, it's
very likely a tool called smb2www will be packaged with the samba package
(upstream). smb2www consists of a few cgi-bin perl scripts, and shows your
local Network Neighboorhood using your webserver. So browsing becomes
possible ;)


bye,
Remco


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Re: kernel-source2.0.33

1998-03-24 Thread John Maheu
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, W Paul Mills wrote:

 On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, John Maheu wrote:
 
  
  I've had some trouble with mounting iso9660 and msdos type fs with kernel
  2.0.33. The kernel complains that these fs types are not supported.
  However, they were built as modules and exist in /lib/modules/2.0.33/
 
 This sounds like a problem with the necessary modules not loading. This
 happens to me if I use filesystem type auto without the modules preloaded.
 Could be a kerneld problem - Did you run depmod -a?
  
Yes, I think this was the problem. Everything is running fine now,
including kerneld. It seems strange that in some cases module
dependencies get calculated upon booting a new kernel and in some cases
they don't.

Is one always required to run depmod -a after installing a new kernel?

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Debian(hamm) system compiles Netscape 5.0!!!

1998-03-24 Thread servis
This might have been passed around on the developer list but one of
the Debian developers(Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]) used Debian(hamm)
to sucessfully compile a beta copy of the upcomming Netscape source
release. Check out http://everybody.got.net/~che/my-day.html for a nice
story about his day at Netscape I got link from Slashdot.org.

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ncr 53cXXX, once again.

1998-03-24 Thread tony mollica
Can someone provide some info.  I've found three types of 
ncr scsi cards (pci), the 810, 860, and 875.  Only the 875
claims to have onboard bios.  How does one find out whether
the motherboard bios supports the other ncr cards?  It seems 
that I have seen the disclaimer mentioned that you must make
sure that your bios supports these cards.
How do you go about that?

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Re: RESC1440.BIN

1998-03-24 Thread Bill Leach
You are right in that it call for an option in the docs (though the
option is 'bs=512').  However, I have pretty much always just specified
the 'if', 'of' and they work.


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Keyborad Dead-keys

1998-03-24 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante


Hi all.

I am a brazilian SysAdmin and, in order to make the accents of my
language work, I tried to install Dead-keys on my Linux Box. 

All I did was change the (accent) - (dead_accent) in the us.map
because my keyboard has International layout.

Well, It didn't work... :( I am sending my /etc/init.d/boot for
purposes of debugging, but...

Thanks in advance


Daniel.

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# before system startup is complete (as soon as inetd is started)
DELAYLOGIN=yes
# Set GMT=-u if your system clock is set to GMT, and GMT= if not.
GMT=-u
# Set VERBOSE to no if you would like a more quiet bootup.
VERBOSE=yes
# Set EDITMOTD to no if you don't want /etc/motd to be editted automatically
EDITMOTD=yes

PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
umask 022
export PATH VERBOSE

if [ -x /sbin/unconfigured.sh ]
then
  /sbin/unconfigured.sh
fi

#
# Trap CTRL-C c only in this shell so we can interrupt subprocesses.
#
trap : INT QUIT TSTP

#
# Set pseudo-terminal access permissions and some
# video settings.
#
#INITTY=/dev/tty[1-6]
#for tty in $INITTY
#do
#  echo -n -e \\033(K  $tty
#done
#/usr/bin/setfont /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/lat1u-16.psf
#/usr/bin/setvesablank on

#
# Load the keymaps *as soon as possible*
#
#if [ -r /etc/kbd/default.map ]
#then
#  loadkeys /etc/kbd/default.map
#fi

#
# Set SULOGIN to yes if you want a sulogin to be spawned from
# this script *before anything else* with a timeout, like on SCO.
#
[ $SULOGIN = yes ]  sulogin -t 30 $CONSOLE

if [ $VERBOSE != no ]
then
  echo
  echo Running /etc/init.d/boot...
  echo
fi

#
# Activate the swap device(s) in /etc/fstab. This needs to be done
# before fsck, since fsck can be quite memory-hungry.
#
if [ -x /sbin/swapon ]
then
  [ $VERBOSE != no ]  echo Activating swap...
  swapon -a 2/dev/null
fi

#
# Ensure that bdflush (update) is running before any major I/O is
# performed (the following fsck is a good example of such activity :).
#
[ -x /sbin/update ]  update

#
# Check the root file system.
#
if [ -f /fastboot ]
then
  echo Fast boot, no file system check
else
  #
  # Ensure that root is quiescent and read-only before fsck'ing.
  #
  mount -n -o remount,ro /
  if [ $? = 0 ]
  then
echo Checking root file system...
fsck -a /
#
# If there was a failure, drop into single-user mode.
#
# NOTE: failure is defined as exiting with a return code of
# 2 or larger.  A return code of 1 indicates that file system
# errors were corrected but that the boot may proceed.
#
if [ $? -gt 1 ]
then
  # Surprise! Re-directing from a HERE document (as in
  # cat  EOF) won't work, because the root is read-only.
  echo
  echo fsck failed.  Please repair manually and reboot.  Please note
  echo that the root file system is currently mounted read-only.  To
  echo remount it read-write:
  echo
  echo# mount -n -o remount,rw /
  echo
  echo CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and REBOOT the system.
  echo
  # Start a single user shell on the console
  /sbin/sulogin $CONSOLE
  reboot -f
fi
  else
echo *** ERROR!  Cannot fsck root fs because it is not mounted read-only!
echo
  fi
fi

#
# Remount rootfs rw (default), but do not try to change mtab because it
# is on a ro fs until the remount succeeded.  Then clean up old mtabs and
# finally write the new mtab.
#
mount -n -o remount,rw /
rm -f /etc/mtab~ /etc/nologin
:  /etc/mtab
mount -o remount,rw /
mount /proc

#
# Configure the isa plug and play boards before loading
# modules. Need to do this before loading modules to get
# a chance of configuring and starting PnP boards before
# the drivers mess all this up.
#
if [ -x /etc/init.d/isapnp ]
then
  /etc/init.d/isapnp start
fi

#
# Load the appropriate modules. This needs to be done here in case fs modules
# are needed for accessing or mounting local file systems.
#
if [ -x /etc/init.d/modutils ]
then
  /etc/init.d/modutils 

Re: ncr 53cXXX, once again.

1998-03-24 Thread Jay Barbee
 Can someone provide some info.  I've found three types of 
 ncr scsi cards (pci), the 810, 860, and 875.  Only the 875
 claims to have onboard bios.  How does one find out whether
 the motherboard bios supports the other ncr cards?  It seems 
 that I have seen the disclaimer mentioned that you must make
 sure that your bios supports these cards.
 How do you go about that?

I am using a NCR SCSI controller that is builtin to my Digital DECpc 
590.  I use the ncr53c7xx driver in the linux kernel.  I am not 
totally sure what you are asking, but my BIOS is not like a normal 
SCSI bios (Such as Adaptec's CTRL-A or BusLogic/Mylex's CTRL-B to 
enter the SCSI utils).  It simply prompts me as to which to boot 
between SCSI or IDE.  There are other more basic options in the 
system BIOS about SCSI that I cannot recall what they are.

What is it that you are trying to do?  Boot off of SCSI?  Do you have 
a mixed IDE/SCSI system.  Typically that would be the only reason why 
your system would require you to have some mention in the BIOS.  If 
you are totally SCSI and your SCSI card has a BIOS to boot from, then 
simply disable your onboard IDE in the system BIOS.

I have not had a problem with my NCR controller.

--Jay Barbee
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Create Special Boot Disks??

1998-03-24 Thread Jay Barbee
If the stock 1.3.1 Rescue disk will not boot up a system with an 
Adaptec SCSI controller, do I have any other options for getting this 
to work?  Are there special rescue disks out there for this sort of 
thing?

Thanks,
--Jay Barbee
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Re: ncr 53cXXX, once again.

1998-03-24 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Indeed, you do need MB BIOS support for the cards mentioned. Usually this tidbit
is given along with technical information for MBs. Here's an example. This is
some brief technical information from the Mfr. of a MB I have (note the BIOS 
info
explicity states that the BIOS is included):

 DX-9700 FEATURES
 CPUs SUPPORTED
 •Intel 486 DX, DX2, DX4 Non-SL and SL Enhanced Microprocessors
 •Cyrix/IBM/SGS/TI 486 DX, DX2, DX2-V80, DX4, DX4-GC, DX4-GP,
 DX4-GIC, DX4-GP4  5x86 100MHz/120MHz/133MHz SL Enhanced
 Microprocessors
 •AMD 486 DX4, 5x86 SL Enhanced Microprocessors
 •Supports 3.3V, 4V, and 5V CPUs with ZIF Sockets
 •UMC Chipset

 MEMORY
 •Up to 256MB Main Memory
 •Four 72-pin SIMM slots for EDO and Fast Page Mode DRAM Modules

 CACHE
 •256KB Write-Back Cache SRAM Module

 BUS ARCHITECTURE
 •Three 32-Bit PCI Slots
 •One 32-Bit VLB Slot
 •Four 16-Bit ISA Slots

 ONBOARD I/O
 •Two PCI Enhanced IDE Ports
 Supports 4 Devices PIO 0-4
 •Two High Speed Serial Ports
 16550 UART Compatible
 •One Enhanced Parallel Port
 SPP, EPP, ECP capable
 •One Floppy Drive Port
 Supports 2 Floppy Drives

 ENERGY SAVING FUNCTIONS
 •SMM/SMI Power Management with APM Software Interface
 Monitor CPU  I/O status with fully user configurable parameters in BIOS

 BIOS
 •AMI WinBIOS
 •Optional Flash PnP BIOS for easy upgrade
 •NCR SCSI 810 BIOS built-in

 SIZE
 •8-5/8 X 9-7/8
 22cm X 25 cm


tony mollica wrote:

 Can someone provide some info.  I've found three types of
 ncr scsi cards (pci), the 810, 860, and 875.  Only the 875
 claims to have onboard bios.  How does one find out whether
 the motherboard bios supports the other ncr cards?  It seems
 that I have seen the disclaimer mentioned that you must make
 sure that your bios supports these cards.
 How do you go about that?

--
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19980324 Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1998-03-24 Thread wnpp

  Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   $Id: prospective-packages.html,v 1.7 1998/03/24 19:13:43 johnie Exp $
   
   
   This document is intended to identify areas that need your
   contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
   often, so it supplements the regular Debian Developer documentation:
   [1]http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.html. This document
   provides the current list of packages which are either:
   
 * orphaned,
 * withdrawn from the unstable distribution,
 * maintained but its developer would like to find a new person,
 * currently being worked on to include in the distribution, and
 * good ideas -- they would be nice to have, but no one is yet
   working on them.
   
   New versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:
   
 * [2]http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html
 * [3]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.txt
 * [4]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-pa
   ckages.html
   
   Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP
   maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Please mention which version of this
   document your comments refer.
   
   Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're
   talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all Re:
   Work-Needing and Prospective Packages emails. A suggested subject
   line reads WNPP: removing foopackage or WNPP: working on
   barpackage. Thanks.
   
 _
   
Recent Changes
   
Since version 1998/03/17

   The lzo, dfm, and nocol packages are uploaded.
   
   Packages needing a new maintainer
 * The ascd, ascdc, asmail, asmixer, netpbm, tkdesk and asmodem
   packages are now orphaned.
   
   Packages adopted
 * The iplogger package is adopted by Hugo Haas
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The xmikmod and xpuzzles packages are adopted by Fredrik
   Hallenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * The scm and slib packages are adopted by Jim Pick
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), who is also working on gnome.
 * The mp3info package is adopted by Pawel Wiecek
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   
   Packages being created
 * The x11amp mp3 player is being packaged by Jens Ritter
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 * An xtartan package (Scottish X backgrounds) is being created by
   Anselm Lingnau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   
   
 _
   
   Orphaned packages
   
   An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.
   Please inform the WNPP maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) via e-mail:
   
 * when you find that you need to orphan a package,
 * when you believe that the following list is incomplete, or
 * when you would like to maintain one of these packages.
   
   The following packages are orphaned:
   
   By the Debian QA Group (debian-qa@lists.debian.org):
   
 * 9wm -- An emulation of the Plan 9 window manager 8-1/2
 * bibindex -- fast lookup in BibTeX bibliography data bases
 * latex2rtf -- LaTeX text to RTF format translator
 * mcvert -- Tool to deal with specially encoded Macintosh files
   (non-free)
 * pari -- A package for number theorists (non-free)
 * paridoc -- The documentation and examples for the PARI system
   (non-free)
 * rc -- An implementation of the ATT Plan 9 shell.
 * sam -- A plan9 derived text editor
 * xabacus -- Implementation of the classic Chinese abacus
 * xbattle -- A concurrent multi-player battle strategy game
 * xmcpustate -- Displays CPU/Swap/Memory/Network load
   
   By David Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * ascd -- AfterStep CD player
 * ascdc -- AfterStep CD changer
 * asmail -- AfterStep mail monitor
 * asmixer -- AfterStep audio mixer
   
   By Herbert Xu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * netpbm -- graphics conversion tools
   
   By Clint Adams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * tkdesk -- Tk/tcl based X11 Desktop/File manager
 * asmodem -- AfterStep modem monitor
   
   By Dale Sheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * ucblogo -- Dialect of lisp using turtle graphics famous for
   teaching kids
   
   By Christoph Lameter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * wdb -- web to database language
   No upstream version since 1996
   
   By James Troup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * zoo -- manipulate archives of files in compressed form (non-free)
 * regex -- GNU regular expression library
   
   By Andreas Jellinghaus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   
 * giflib -- shared library for GIF images (non-free)
   

Re: Debian(hamm) system compiles Netscape 5.0!!

1998-03-24 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
It is true.  Dynamically linked against glibc.

Thaths
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The truth is not out there
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Re: Unidentified subject!

1998-03-24 Thread shaul
I would try these: 
1) man XF86Setup
2) Redirecting the stderr to a file when invoking XF86Setup. Hopefully, it 
will catch the error messages.
3) Killing XF86Setup with ctrl+alt+BS, or ctrl+c. Hopefully, it will save the 
trouble of logging in again.

Hope this help.

 Hello
 I installed debian 1 months ago. I've benn trying to setup X-windows since
 that time. But any time I start XF86Setup after a few minutes it's frozen,
 and I have to login again. Sometimes it writes that some files are missing
 or incorrect, but does it so fast that I can't read which are those.
 If you have any tips or suggestions please write me.
 Thanks
 Havas Gergo


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Re: TRANSLATION Re: the instructions for win95 under dosemu

1998-03-24 Thread Nelson Posse Lago
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Wesley Hart wrote:

 And Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella spake, saying:
  2.B) he is lying
   To lie is a bad thing, but people do it. Things that make me
 
 Let's not forget how close we are to April 1st - I think we've been
 the victims of a (fairly sucessful) April Fools prank.

Nope... it was me who first posted this to the list, and I was *not*
trying to fool anybody; and puma (the howto author) posted this to the
Brazilian linux list about a month ago, so nothing to do with april 1st.
He is an active contributor to that list, and I seriously doubt he'd be
joking, *but* he stated some people had trouble to do it, while some
others had success. He also noted the codepage and country setup for
Brazil prevented it to work for some people, who then took the info off
config.sys/autoexec.bat and managed to make it work, while others simply
had no luck.

I'd like to point out that Winblows puts the video card in graphic mode
and accesses it through third-party drivers. So, the video card can play a
major role in this scenario. I bet this is so even with standard VGA
drivers.

Of course, you may think that I'm *really* trying to make you all look
like fools ;-) , but that's not it, I just don't have first-hand
experiences to share. And since I suspect that I wouldn't be able to make
win95 TCP/IP work under linux, I didn't bother any longer (I need it
around here for a couple of reasons).

Has anybody tried safe mode?

See ya,
Nelson
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Re: Running X11 over a network

1998-03-24 Thread Ian Lynagh

Hi Rainer  :-)

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rainer Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes

Ben Pfaff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Try this, which is slightly different:
 
 * Give 192.168.1.1 to the laptop.
 * Give 192.168.1.2 to the desktop.
 * Install any X software you want, but no xserver package, on the laptop.
 * Install only xserver-* (whichever you need), xbase, xlib6g on the server.

 * On the laptop do `export DISPLAY=192.168.1.2:0' in bash.
 * Run `startx', then `xhost +192.168.1.1' on the 486.
 * Run your xclients from the laptop command line.

How about running 'X -query 192.168.1.1' on the desktop?
This should give you the XDM-login of your laptop. IIRC every host can
connect to an XDM by default. Otherwise you need to add a line with a * to
/etc/X11/Xaccess.

Just to clarify...

So I skip the export, startx and xhost steps replacing them with X -q...
on the desktop. Packages installed as above, uses window manager on the
laptop? Does XDM require you to log in? If so, can I make it
automatically send the info I used to log in to the console (both will
have identical user details).

BTW, does the laptop need xbase and xlib6g?

Thanks
Ian
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Re: Scrollbars II

1998-03-24 Thread Carey Evans
Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I guess the only thing I would like to do is make it so that the scrollbar
 in xconsole has the same smooth, gray look it used to have.  Is there any
 way to do this?

Edit /etc/ld.so.conf and either remove the Xaw3d line or put it at the
end.  Be careful doing this.

-- 
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[UNIX] appears to have the inside track on being the replacement for
  CP/M on the largest microcomputers (e.g. those based on 68000...)


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dselect/ftp non-standard mirrors

1998-03-24 Thread Deniz Dogan
Hi,

Is there a way to use dselect/ftp with non-standart mirrors ?

The mirror I want to use has no un/stable directory. binary-all,
binary-i386, ... are in debian/ directly.

Thanks in advance.

Deniz Dogan
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Re: Create Special Boot Disks??

1998-03-24 Thread DAVID B. TEAGUE
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Jay Barbee wrote:

 If the stock 1.3.1 Rescue disk will not boot up a system with an 
 Adaptec SCSI controller, do I have any other options for getting this 
 to work?  Are there special rescue disks out there for this sort of 
 thing?

Jay

I see this is your second request. Nobody has answered this, so I'll
hazard a response. If I'm in error, I know someone will correct me ;) 

The boot (rescue) disks use syslinux to boot the kernel.  The
instructions on the disk say you can put any kernel on the disk and name
it linux.  Then you can use the disk to boot. I had trouble with the
modules, so you should put all the modules you are going to need for
install (in my case, I had to have SCSI CD rom support). Then ask on
this list, they KNOW and WILL help.

Please look at the rescue disk on an msdos machine and confirm this. I
had to do this when I booted my system at home with AHA 1542, then later
AHA 2840 SCSI controllers, but that was back in the Deb 0.93 and 1.1
days. 

Lots of luck.

--David

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Re: mail and mailer questions

1998-03-24 Thread David Stern
I recently answered a similar question:

-8--

On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:54:35 EST, Shaleh wrote:
 I am using a modem and ppp to login to my ISP.  What is a good setup for
 e-mail???  Currently I use NS4's e-mail but it is a little buggy and
 crashes often.  I would like to have a nice X front end.  I currently
 recieve between 250 and 350 e-mails a day and am logged in via modem
 sporadically at best.

exmh is popular, I like it, it has never crashed on me, it has lots of 
nice features, and it is packaged for both bo and hamm.

  exmh home page
  http://www.beedub.com/exmh/

exmh is a tcl/tk frontend to MH or nmh (so you'll need MH or nmh too), 
and I'd recommend running procmail to sort your mail, and fetchmail to 
get your mail, and smail to send mail, assuming dialup networking.

If this sounds a little more involved than configuring netscape, it is, 
however I think you'll find the added functionality worthwhile in the 
long run.

I configured fetchmail and promail mostly using the documentation 
available in the package (man, info, /usr/doc/*), however some online 
procmail resources were also helpful for fine tuning:

  http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~ian/procmail.html
  http://www.ssc.com/lg/issue14/procmail.html
  http://www.helsinki.fi/~reriksso/procmail/mini-faq.html
  http://www.helsinki.fi/~reriksso/procmail/links.html

The primary obstacle to overcome with smail is rewriting headers and 
making them stick during smtp posts.  I like Daniel Martin's solution, 
but there are both simpler and more complex methods:

  http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html

Coincidentally, I recommend you follow the recent advice regarding MH 
configuration:

  http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9803/msg01287.html

More good MH resources:

  http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mh-faq/part1/f
aq.html
  http://www.ics.uci.edu/~mh/book/

Exmh itself is pretty easy to configure, has a gui for most 
configuration, help menu (in 2.x version) which includes faq and 
mailing lists subscription.

-8--

Additionally, you asked for was a text mode email client and mentioned 
mailbox styles, and there are at least several of each.

Originally, my mail configuration was setup to work with mutt 
(my preferred text-mode email client) and exmh (preferred X-windows), 
however my mutt configuration is no longer. I believe my mutt was 
disavowed sometime amidst my hamm upgrade due to a long outstanding 
dependency.  The original idea was that mutt and exmh both called on 
smail's post command

Anyways, I just reinstalled mutt, and assigned my exmh inbox to be 
used, sent and received mail, and looked at my headers, and the 
Return-Path: field was correctly set, although the From: field 
apparently needs to be configured a little better because I used the 
example ~/.muttrc (properly modified) and html manual in /usr/doc, 
however sending to my isp account I get:

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kotsya: David Stern)

If anyone knows what causes this, please post list and/or me.

Anyways, Mutt has a very advanced feature list, and if you want pgp 
integration, you'll have to get the non-us version from 
nonus.debian.org (that's what someone said last night, I haven't tried 
it).

The one thing mutt uses by default that I'm not comfortable with (yet) 
is vi, but this can be configured to another editor (I chose pico) in 
~/.muttrc or in the EDITOR environment variable.  There was also an 
interesting thread re: vi last night.  I intend to learn vi, ultimately.

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Re: kernel-source2.0.33

1998-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

There is a problem if you are re-installing a kernel with the
 same version number (and not using Flavours ;-). From the
 kernel-package README file:
__
Now, there is a caveat: If you already have kernel 2.0.29 installed,
and you have a freshly created custom 2.0.29 kernel, just installing
the new 2.0.29 kernel shall install modules (as it should) in
/lib/modules/2.0.29, which is where the old modules were! If you have
added or removed modules relative to the old 2.0.29 kernel (very
likely if your old kernel was the default gigantic generic kernel),
then you shall have a mish-mash of modules in /lib/modules/2.0.29 ;-(

Unfortunately, there is no reasonable solution; I suggest moving the
old modules directory before installation, like so (need to be root):

# mv /lib/modules/2.0.29 /lib/modules/2.0.29.save
# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.0.29_custom.1.0_i386.deb
and later get rid of the .save directory.

People who want to have multiple flavours of the same kernel version
around should look at the file /usr/doc/kernel-package/Flavours.gz for
details (Note: This involves modifying the kernel sources top level
Makefile; not recommended unless you are *sure* you need it).
__

manoj
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Re: Some odd errors / compatibility questions.

1998-03-24 Thread Timothy J. Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Miller) writes:

   So I swapped the sticks.  The memory test *still* failed at
 11Mb.  Reenabled the cache and it still fails at 11Mb.

*sigh* Failed at *17Mb*.  Succeeded at *16Mb*.  I *will* remember
to calculate in HEX, I *will* remember to calculate in HEX, I *will*
remember to calculate in HEX...

This now points me toward a bad socket.  All the pins look good,
but that's not likely to mean anything anyway.  Memory failures at SIMM
boundaries make me suspicious...

At any rate, mem=16M is certainly better than mem=8M-- at least
until I can replace the board.

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Re: Stupid Question.

1998-03-24 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can anyone tell me how to add another address to the loopback?  In
 other words, I want 192.168.43.2 to actually be a loopback address
 in addition to 127.0.0.1

You should use the dummy interface for that.  Either compile it into
your kernel or load it as module (modprobe dummy or let kerneld do
its work).  Then issue the following command, and after it works, add
it to /etc/init.d/network:

   ifconfig dummy0 192.168.43.2 netmask 255.255.255.255
   route add 192.168.43.2

Torsten

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Twain Driver

1998-03-24 Thread vrodrigu

Dear Sir/Madam,
I have recently bought the D-Cam Digital Camera.
I would like to know if it is possible (when invoking the twain driver)
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twice the PREVIEW button. According to the documentation, this is possible.
However, I can´t find the way to do it.

I would be very grateful if you could help me to solve this problem.

Thank you in advance.

Viviana Rodriguez.



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Re: Twain Driver

1998-03-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
I think you must be mistaken as to the purpose of this list.  TWAIN
drivers are MS Windows-based, and thus have no relation to Linux.
Helping with Linux (specifically Debian GNU/Linux) is the purpose of
this list.  You might try a comp.os.ms-windows.* newsgroup instead.


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