current symlink in /hamm/hamm/disks-i386
I just noticed that a directory 1998-03-29 has been created in hamm/disks-i386, but the symlink current - 1998-02-20 hasn't been updated. This is from the mirror on llug.sep.bnl.gov, so it is somewhat behind master. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
You might want to tell everyone that it comes _without_ the news and mail readers. look at this as an added bonus. no more unreadable html mail from clueless newbies (or seasoned morons). --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: current symlink in /hamm/hamm/disks-i386
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote: : I just noticed that a directory 1998-03-29 has been created in : hamm/disks-i386, but the symlink current - 1998-02-20 hasn't been : updated. : : This is from the mirror on llug.sep.bnl.gov, so it is somewhat : behind master. In each disks-i386 directory in hamm (frozen), the rescue disk images seem to be missing. I checked my own mirror, Crosslink, and ftp.debian.org. Anyone else noticed that? -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is giflib3g and -dev ?
Hey folks. I'm having a *major* problem locating giflib3g and giflib3g-dev. Does anyone know where they might be located? I see those particular files listed as depends on some descriptions in the Packages file, but the actual file is not listed in Packages.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP for Linux
install the imap-4 package. Will there be a IMAP4rev1 for Debian coming soon. Currently I installed the imap-4 debian package and replaced the imapd binary with a redhat one so I can get it to work half decently with Outlook Express. jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: current symlink in /hamm/hamm/disks-i386
I am currently downloading the disks-i386/1998-03-29 directory from llug.sep.bnl.gov, and my mirror messages include Got 1998-03-29/resc1200.bin 1228800 and Got 1998-03-29/resc1440.bin 1474560 At least this mirror has the rescue disks. Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote: : I just noticed that a directory 1998-03-29 has been created in : hamm/disks-i386, but the symlink current - 1998-02-20 hasn't been : updated. : : This is from the mirror on llug.sep.bnl.gov, so it is somewhat : behind master. In each disks-i386 directory in hamm (frozen), the rescue disk images seem to be missing. I checked my own mirror, Crosslink, and ftp.debian.org. Anyone else noticed that? -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
You might want to tell everyone that it comes _without_ the news and mail readers. look at this as an added bonus. no more unreadable html mail from clueless newbies (or seasoned morons). Hey, I don't like html mail either, but that was too hard. Dont you think so? Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fat 32 and Linux.
Currently I am using Windows 95 OSR2 with fat32 enabled. I do have the utility that will allow Windows 95 to read the Linux partition and it works great. My question, I have been trying to set up the Debian version of Linux (kernel 1.30 I think) to read the fat32 partition. I have configured the drivers for this about four times with the same results. When it gets to vfat, it hangs. Before this it would say that it couldn't recognize the partition. Here's my current config; hda1 Windows 95 (0b) hdb5 Windows 95 (0c) (I think I need to change this one and one other to ob as well) hdb6 Linux(73) hdb7 Windows 95 (0c) I have a p120 with 16 megs of ram. Any help would be appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian PPP
I am trying to setup ppp on a Debian Linux box. I have an internal modem and it is set to com1. I followed the instructions on http://www.debian.org/fom/40.html to set up ppp but when I so what it says I get the following error message tcgetattr: I/O error. I noticed that there is no directory under dev called ttS0, should there be one. Is there a way to test that the modem is setup properly in Linux? Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did I answer this perl question correctly?
Hi,
Could someone please confirm whether the answer I gave below to a friend
about perl is correct?
Thanks,
Mark.
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:49:30 +0930 (CST)
From: Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Perl
Dear Bill,
I am interested in the library of programs in
/usr/lib/perl5/. There seem to be lots of potentially useful things
there. How do I get them to work?
From what I can tell, these are library packages for use with perl. Just
like in LaTeX2e you include packages with the command
\usepackage{amstex}
etc, with perl you include these packages with the command
require 'ftp.pl';
Then you can make use of the functionality these libraries provide.
To make use of them, you would have to learn how to program in perl, which
from what I hear is an excellent and powerful scripting language. One of
these days I might even learn it myself.
Does that answer your question?
Cheers,
Mark.
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Re: Slink [was: Re: Debian Hamm Dselect]
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, William R. Ward wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simple. Slink doesn't currently duplicate anything that is in hamm. Set
dselect or whatever to look in dists/frozen and dists/unstable if you want
stuff specifically from slink.
How do I do that? There is only one each of 'main', 'non-free', and
'contrib', and only one Packages file for each. Is there a way to get
a Packages file that covers hamm with the changes from slink? Or
should I just stick with hamm for now?
dists/{frozen,unstable}/{main,non-free,contrib}
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Re: Fat 32 and Linux.
Hate to answer a question with a question, but: that will allow Windows 95 to read the Linux partition and it works great. Where did you get this, and can I get a copy from the same place? Sorry I don't have any answers on the FAT32 problem, my Windows partitions are FAT16/vfat. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
Hey, I don't like html mail either, but that was too hard. Dont you think so? Alex Y. not really. i usually delete such mail right away without even reading it. and i don't care where it comes from: my boss or from somebody off the net i don't even know. sorry. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dhcpcd for 2.1.x kernels
hey. apologies if this has been discussed a million times, i just joined the list. okay, i gotz debian 2.0 running at home (yes, unstable) and recently i tried to compile dhcpcd-0.70. works fine under 2.0.33. under 2.1.89 it complains about duplicate structures, etc, stuff like /usr/include/linux/socket.h:38: warning: `SCM_RIGHTS' redefined /usr/include/socketbits.h:211: warning: this is the location of the previous definition okay, well there's a patch for compiling dhcpcd under linux 2.1.x and i applied it, but that appears not to be the problem. rather, it appears to be in the way debian organizes kernel include files. under redhat, the file /usr/include/net/if.h just includes /usr/include/linux/if.h so if you change the simlink under /usr/src/linux when you boot a new kernel everything works. lots of other files work this way, and this makes it easy to compile stuff for different kernels. on the other hand, under debian, lots of kernel include files are duplicated under /usr/include. they appear consistent with 2.0.33 but not with 2.1.x. since i use road runner i am condemned to run kernel 2.0.33 in order to be a good kid and obey dhcp protocol :( so, is this an intentional design feature of debian? am i doing something wrong? -- p -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with xterm -- doesn't logout
I'm using Debian's lastest hamm packages, kernel 2.0.33 (pre34-5), etc.. xterm doesn't logout upon exiting.. the user/host still shows up in the who and users commands. This problem occurs on both of my Debian systems, each with similar setups. Anyone else have the same problem? Is this a bug with my system or the xbase(includes xterm) package? Any suggestions on how to fix it? Thanks -Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Afterstep Bug?--OFF TOPIC?
Yo- I upgraded to AS 1.4 when I upgraded to frozen 2 weeks ago. Hamm rocks but I am having some problems with AS 1.4. I was just wondering if anyone else had this problem. It might be an AS bug or a Hamm bug I'm not sure. When I try to switch backgounds using the menu selection my screen flashes and then the wharf disappears and the backgrounf never shows. I have to restart AS to regain my wharf but the background isn't there. On a similar note, when i run xsetroot to add color to the background it works only until I use the pager to check a different desk, then when I return to the original screen the color is gone. I am using the latest XFree package and the S3V server. Thanks in advance! p.s. I was only kidding earlier, Debian rules! (April 1st, heheh..) -Ian _ Ian K. Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] H: 940.566.0461 Pgr: 817.901.0255 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slink [was: Re: Debian Hamm Dselect]
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, William R. Ward wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simple. Slink doesn't currently duplicate anything that is in hamm. Set
dselect or whatever to look in dists/frozen and dists/unstable if you want
stuff specifically from slink.
How do I do that? There is only one each of 'main', 'non-free', and
'contrib', and only one Packages file for each. Is there a way to get
a Packages file that covers hamm with the changes from slink? Or
should I just stick with hamm for now?
dists/{frozen,unstable}/{main,non-free,contrib}
Yes, but dselect only has room for one Packages file in each of
{main,non-free,contrib,local}
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Re: Problems with AccelX4.1 / Debian 2.0 [frozen]
On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 03:02:13PM -0500, Vaibhav Goel wrote: Hello; I had Debian 2.0 frozen running just fine with XFree and my ATI Mach64 card. I recently purchased a Diamond FireGL1000Pro card and AccelX 4.1 which supports this card. Upon doing a Minimal Install of AccelX, I cannot run X at all. When I type startx, I get some symbol not found errors. Unfortunately, I am not at home so I cannot list the exact errors (will do so later), but I wonder if anyone has encountered these problems or know of a possible solution. My suspicion is that it is libc6 related or something. Well I didn't actually test this, but you could try to just install the server and config program, and nothing else. The server itself runs fine in hamm, but the xinit and xdm included with it are the ones that complain about unresolved symbols, so I suggest trying to use the xinit that comes with debian.. pgpPf7WbaGME0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: non-free software
I am more than just a little amazed at parts of this thread... The 'Official Debian' position is not only clear it is also the ONLY rational possition given the terms of Debian's own license. Encouraging CD producers to review the licenses in non-free and make their own decisions is sane. As far as 'preclassifying' the 'non-free' software goes, that is an unbelieveably complex task. The nature of the restrictions range from no commercial use (?!) to you may not use this software for anything related to nuclear energy, or munitions, or (fill in the blank). Debian as an organization does not try to interpret beyond the determination of whether the license is DSFG or not (a sensible approach). IT IS TRUE that most of the non-free software is free of licensing requirements for _personal_ use and therefore probably the vast majority of Debian users are actually not restricted. However, inclusion of such software IN the Debian Official Distribution would then impose restrictions on commercial users of Debian not present in the DSFG. As stated in a different way by others, Debian's position on 'non-free' software is appropriate to the Debian DSFG, supportive of the users, and I believe, still very respectful of those developers such as John Bradley that have chosen to make their software effort 'free' for non-commercial use only. As to 'making non-free' CD distributions... Well the CD producers are free to do whatever they believe is proper for their distributions (and be responsible for their decisions). As Scott mentioned and I indicated above, trying to figure out what you can and can not include can be a less than enjoyable experience. As far as King Lee's suggestions about how to move between #1 and #2, again, how and what you are doing with the software affects how it can be distributed (in many cases). I also do not see Alex's point about Debian being so difficult to base a commercial application upon. Debian is more difficult in the sense that a Debian configuration is not as well documented as other distributions so you typical Slackware based book is not much help (true also of much of the LDP work). However, I think that if you were able to compare individual machines and create 'deviation' measurements you would find that most 'bo' boxes were the same in the 'way' that they are configured and that most 'hamm' boxes were even more consistent. Because there _is_ a strong drive within Debian to achieve a consistent configuration mechanism that can deal with all of the various needs that have been encountered, I believe that it _IS_ Debian that will be the best distribution upon which to base a commercial product. -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP and Hamm (again)
On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 05:02:25AM +0700, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: I got the same error as well...neither have luck with harddisk installation. :) install process exits with a status of 1. Mike Patterson wrote: I've gotten to the point where I have selected files I want to install, but then when I select install, I get the following message: Can't locate DirHandle.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/ 5.004 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/local/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/File/Path.pm line 101 And the install process exits with a status of 2. Any ideas? (using 3-29 set of base/rescue disks) the rescue disks don't have perl on them for some reason, you have to get it and install it manually before you can do anything else. What I did was download the dpkg-ftp package, try to install it, it will of course complain about dependancy problems, and fail then just go to the ftp site, and download and install everything that dpkg-ftp complains about.. Incase you don't know how to do that, just type dpkg -i name_of_file.deb pgpIj7bL7elZL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Glibc2
What kind of success would I get if I simply got a tarball of the glibc2 libs and ran the mozilla package? It should work... right? Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with AccelX4.1 / Debian 2.0 [frozen]
I had Debian 2.0 frozen running just fine with XFree and my ATI Mach64 card. I recently purchased a Diamond FireGL1000Pro card and AccelX 4.1 which supports this card. Upon doing a Minimal Install of AccelX, I cannot run X at all. When I type startx, I get some symbol not found errors. Unfortunately, I am not at home so I cannot list the exact errors (will do so later), but I wonder if anyone has encountered these problems or know of a possible solution. My suspicion is that it is libc6 related or something. Well I didn't actually test this, but you could try to just install the server and config program, and nothing else. The server itself runs fine in Right, I did exactly that- install only server and fonts - this is less then minimal install. No problmes then. Alex Y. hamm, but the xinit and xdm included with it are the ones that complain about unresolved symbols, so I suggest trying to use the xinit that comes with debian.. [application/pgp-signature is not supported, skipping...] -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP for Linux
Will there be a IMAP4rev1 for Debian coming soon. Currently I installed the imap-4 debian package and replaced the imapd binary with a redhat one so I can get it to work half decently with Outlook Express. Actually there already is one. Look for /debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/imap_4.1.BETA-1_i386.deb I am the Debian maintainer of this package and I've tried to test it as thoroughly as I can. I've tried pine, Outlook Express, Netscape Communicator and an IMAP client I wrote in Visual Basic. All seem to work fine but I appreciate any and all feedback. (Preferably through the Debian bug handling system as this list is way too busy for me to keep up with.) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot hang and debian hamm
Nils Rennebarth wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 06:44:10PM +, Jeffery D. Collins wrote: I have been unable to reboot the kernel. The only text printed to the screen is LI. Here is lilo.conf: $ cat /etc/lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda1 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only try to remove compact and add the option linear. Nils I just tried this, but it still hung on LI. Perhaps I should also specify thedisk geometry in the lilo.conf file as well. I wonder if the boot.b got corruptedsomehow? Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Did I answer this perl question correctly?
Hi,
Yes, require 'blah.pl'; is correct. You may also want to
look at .pm files and the new use blah; directives.
manoj
use Module LIST
use Module
use Module VERSION LIST
use VERSION
Imports some semantics into the current package
from the named module, generally by aliasing
certain subroutine or variable names into your
package. It is exactly equivalent to
BEGIN { require Module; import Module LIST; }
except that Module must be a bareword.
If the first argument to use is a number, it is
treated as a version number instead of a module
name. If the version of the Perl interpreter is
less than VERSION, then an error message is
printed and Perl exits immediately. This is often
useful if you need to check the current Perl
version before useing library modules which have
changed in incompatible ways from older versions
of Perl. (We try not to do this more than we have
to.)
The BEGIN forces the require and import to happen
at compile time. The require makes sure the
module is loaded into memory if it hasn't been
yet. The import is not a builtin--it's just an
ordinary static method call into the Module
package to tell the module to import the list of
features back into the current package. The
module can implement its import method any way it
likes, though most modules just choose to derive
their import method via inheritance from the
Exporter class that is defined in the Exporter
module. See the Exporter manpage. If no import
method can be found then the error is currently
silently ignored. This may change to a fatal
error in a future version.
If you don't want your namespace altered,
explicitly supply an empty list:
use Module ();
That is exactly equivalent to
BEGIN { require Module; }
If the VERSION argument is present between Module
and LIST, then the use will call the VERSION
method in class Module with the given version as
an argument. The default VERSION method,
inherited from the Universal class, croaks if the
given version is larger than the value of the
variable $Module::VERSION. (Note that there is
not a comma after VERSION!)
Because this is a wide-open interface, pragmas
(compiler directives) are also implemented this
way. Currently implemented pragmas are:
use integer;
use diagnostics;
use strict qw(subs vars refs);
use subsqw(afunc blurfl);
These pseudo-modules import semantics into the
current block scope, unlike ordinary modules,
which import symbols into the current package
(which are effective through the end of the file).
There's a corresponding no command that
unimports meanings imported by use, i.e., it calls
unimport Module LIST instead of import.
no integer;
no strict 'refs';
If no unimport method can be found the call fails
with a fatal error.
See the perlmod manpage for a list of standard
modules and pragmas.
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.ps or .pdf editing app
Hi, I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? I've tried converting to .eps and editing in tgif, however that renders the whole form illegible. I've always seen ps and pdf viewers, never editors. That just doesn't seem right. If this is off-topic, I apologize. -- David Stern -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xlib6 (libc5 based) on a debian 2.0
I am getting some very odd errors while trying to run libc5 based X-apps w/ debian 2.0 (frozen/hamm/unstable) I have xlib6-3.3.2 and libc5 all set up out of the oldlibs dir. This is a fresh installation. New drive, used Debian disks hamm/current 02/20/98 and a ftp install. My computer is a P5-200 w/ 64MB of Ram, Adaptec 2940UW, MilleniumII, Awe32, SCSI cd-rom, 3com XL 10/100. Kernel 2.0.33. XFree86-3.3-2. Here is my ld.so.conf: /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib /usr/local/lib The programs seg-fault everytime. Netscape 4.04 segfaults and gives a bus error. The strace yields: open(/usr/lib/netscape/dynfonts/libTrueDoc.so, O_RDONLY) = 13 read(13, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096 mmap(0, 118784, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x401fe000 mmap(0x401fe000, 109628, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 13, 0) = 0x401fe000 mmap(0x40219000, 5692, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 13, 0x1a000) = 0x40219000 close(13) = 0 mprotect(0x401fe000, 109628, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0 munmap(0x40008000, 10318) = 0 brk(0x895e000) = 0x895e000 brk(0x896e000) = 0x896e000 brk(0x896e000) = 0x896e000 brk(0x8971000) = 0x8971000 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- getpid()= 5406 kill(5406, SIGBUS) = 0 --- SIGBUS (Bus error) --- +++ killed by SIGBUS +++ There is a bunch more, but that is where is dies. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank You, Matt Pavlovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux on 486 sx
Have you ever experienced runnning an IRC client over XWindows in an old Intel 486SX33? Alguem jah executou um clint de IRC num 486 dentro do X Windows? Eu vou ter que usar uns 486 fuleragens com IRC. (Um bom e facil de usar)/X Windows/Linux/Intel 486 33. TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian PPP
Keith Vance wrote: I am trying to setup ppp on a Debian Linux box. I have an internal modem and it is set to com1. I followed the instructions on http://www.debian.org/fom/40.html to set up ppp but when I so what it says I get the following error message tcgetattr: I/O error. I noticed that there is no directory under dev called ttS0, should there be one. Is there a way to test that the modem is setup properly in Linux? Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, it is ttyS0. You should have that unless you removed it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xlib6 (libc5 based) on a debian 2.0
For netscape3 (I see you're running netscape4) there is a bus error fix at http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html. You may also check out the netscape debian packages in hamm/contrib/binary-i386/web. I have had trouble getting either netscape3 or netscape4 to work under with a clean hamm install. Apparently, neither version can find the X libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib nor /usr/lib/libc5-compat directories. My short term solution was to upload the older xlib6-3.3.1-2 libraries (as opposed to xlib6-3.3.2) to /usr/local/lib/tmp-fix, setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local/lib/tmp-fix, then run netscape. Jeff matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote: I am getting some very odd errors while trying to run libc5 based X-apps w/ debian 2.0 (frozen/hamm/unstable) I have xlib6-3.3.2 and libc5 all set up out of the oldlibs dir. This is a fresh installation. New drive, used Debian disks hamm/current 02/20/98 and a ftp install. My computer is a P5-200 w/ 64MB of Ram, Adaptec 2940UW, MilleniumII, Awe32, SCSI cd-rom, 3com XL 10/100. Kernel 2.0.33. XFree86-3.3-2. Here is my ld.so.conf: /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib /usr/local/lib The programs seg-fault everytime. Netscape 4.04 segfaults and gives a bus error. The strace yields: open(/usr/lib/netscape/dynfonts/libTrueDoc.so, O_RDONLY) = 13 read(13, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096 mmap(0, 118784, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x401fe000 mmap(0x401fe000, 109628, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 13, 0) = 0x401fe000 mmap(0x40219000, 5692, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 13, 0x1a000) = 0x40219000 close(13) = 0 mprotect(0x401fe000, 109628, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0 munmap(0x40008000, 10318) = 0 brk(0x895e000) = 0x895e000 brk(0x896e000) = 0x896e000 brk(0x896e000) = 0x896e000 brk(0x8971000) = 0x8971000 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- getpid()= 5406 kill(5406, SIGBUS) = 0 --- SIGBUS (Bus error) --- +++ killed by SIGBUS +++ There is a bunch more, but that is where is dies. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank You, Matt Pavlovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, David Stern wrote: Hi, I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? I've tried converting to .eps and editing in tgif, however that renders the whole form illegible. I've always seen ps and pdf viewers, never editors. That just doesn't seem right. If this is off-topic, I apologize. I dont know about .ps files, but I understand .pdf to be a format Adobe created, for use with Adobe Acrobat. You have to Buy Adobe Acrobat.. and it is expensive. (Again, I am not sure, but I think it is only available for MacOS and Windows..). The Adobe Acrobat Reader is free though.. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- If it doesn't work, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
Hi, I used to edit raw postscript (writing display postscript on an old unix box), and I used emacs+postscript mode. (I fail to see how the fonts one uses in the postscript program has anything to do with the editor). However, if you need to edit machine generated postscript using something that parses it, presents it to you, and re-generates postscript, Umm, I don't know if there is any such beast out there. Postscript is a fairly complete programming language, and it only a postscript engine can understand what the output should look like. By the time the engines is done, you have a description of each non-background pixel on the page (some hidden behind others and so on). Umm, to get the text back you need to run an OCR on the data. Also, an elegant 5 lines of postscript code can generate fairly complex final output, so it is as hard to reverse engineer postscript as is C++. What I am bumbling around trying to say is that this is quite hard. I have never seen a product, on any OS, that does something like this. Having said that, I realize that a dozen people shall now jump out and prove how wrong I am, and that would answer your question. manoj who still has the red and blue books ;-). -- I think for the most part that the readership here uses the c-word in a similar fashion. I don't think anybody really believes in a new, revolution- ary literature --- I think they use `cyberpunk' as a term of convenience to discuss the common stylistic elements in a small subset of recent sf books. Jeff G. Bone Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ftp.debian.org mirroring at Sunsite
Dear all, Does anybody of you know the reason why hamm/frozen is not mirrored at the mother-Sunsite and countless mirrors? It will be so much easier for European people to download the rought 300-350 MB of the distribution. Have wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this - no avail. Thanks for any thoughts/suggestions. -- greetz... Arunas Norvaisa - little guy, The Masses Inc. PGP keys on keyservers: IDs: 0x4CE4774E (DSS/DH), 0xC90D7E21 PGP for idiots page http://www1.omnitel.net/an and a US mirror site http://www.post1.com/~arunas My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells by the seashore. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org mirroring at Sunsite
[ on European debian-mirrors ] Try: ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/debian/dists/frozen/ Or in the Netherlands: ftp.nl.net/site/ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/ Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Extrange diald behaviour
Hi all,
I have setup a Debian GNU/Linux box with IP-Masquerade, Samba
and dial on demand. This system is running with NT workstations and an NT
server.
Sometimes the Linux box dials when it shouldn't. What it does to cause
diald to dial is a ping echo request to the nameservers... Apparently,
there is no reason to cause this.
The Linux box is called ribera
The NT server? is called vinatea
The NT workstatione? julian
The NTboxes doesn't use WINS, they use instead a hosts files
the gateway is the Linux box, the DNSs are the same of the Linux box. The
windows services doesn't use the DNS services for name resolution.
The Linux box also has all machines in a hosts files
This is what happens on eth0, the LAN/IP-Masquerade interface, this is the
output of tcpdump -v -i eth0:
14:14:55.60 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: P 3800:3843(43) ack 2624
win 7789 (DF)
14:14:55.60 vinatea.netbios-ssn cristobal.1115: P 2624:2667(43) ack 3843
win 8377 (DF)
14:14:55.72 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: . ack 2667 win 7746 (DF)
14:14:56.68 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: P 3843:4233(390) ack 2667
win 7746 (DF)
14:14:56.69 vinatea.netbios-ssn cristobal.1115: P 2667:2771(104) ack 4233
win 7987 (DF)
14:14:56.82 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: . ack 2771 win 7642 (DF)
14:15:01.09 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: P 4233:4625(392) ack 2771
win 7642 (DF)
14:15:01.14 vinatea.netbios-ssn cristobal.1115: P 2771:3235(464) ack 4625
win 7595 (DF)
14:15:01.33 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: . ack 3235 win 8760 (DF)
14:15:02.71 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: P 4625:4849(224) ack 3235
win 8760 (DF)
14:15:02.73 vinatea.netbios-ssn cristobal.1115: P 3235:3365(130) ack 4849
win 7371 (DF)
14:15:02.73 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: P 4849:4965(116) ack 3365
win 8630 (DF)
14:15:02.73 vinatea.netbios-ssn cristobal.1115: P 3365:3404(39) ack 4965
win 8760 (DF)
14:15:02.83 cristobal.1115 vinatea.netbios-ssn: . ack 3404 win 8591 (DF)
14:15:07.78 cristobal.netbios-ns 192.168.1.255.netbios-ns: udp 68
14:15:07.78 vinatea.netbios-ns cristobal.netbios-ns: udp 62
14:15:13.86 vinatea.netbios-dgm 192.168.1.255.netbios-dgm: udp 208
14:15:14.19 ribera 194.106.2.132: icmp: echo request
14:15:15.11 ribera 194.106.2.132: icmp: echo request
14:15:16.11 ribera 194.106.2.132: icmp: echo request
14:15:17.11 ribera sparky.mad.servicom.es: icmp: echo request
14:15:18.11 ribera sparky.mad.servicom.es: icmp: echo request
14:15:19.11 ribera sparky.mad.servicom.es: icmp: echo request
14:15:20.12 cristobal.netbios-ns vinatea.netbios-ns: udp 50
14:15:20.12 vinatea.netbios-ns cristobal.netbios-ns: udp 355
14:15:23.43 0:60:97:96:7a:5e Broadcast sap e0 ui/C len=81
0050 0014
0455 0001 0001 0455 0001
00
14:15:23.43 0:60:97:96:7a:5e 0:60:97:96:7a:5e sap e0 ui/C len=81
0050 0004 0001 0001
0455 0001 0001 0455 0002
00
14:15:23.97 0:60:97:96:7a:5e Broadcast sap e0 ui/C len=81
0050 0014
0455 0001 0001 0455 0001
00
14:15:23.97 0:60:97:96:7a:5e 0:60:97:96:7a:5e sap e0 ui/C len=81
0050 0004 0001 0001
0455 0001 0001 0455 0002
00
14:15:24.51 0:60:97:96:7a:5e Broadcast sap e0 ui/C len=81
0050 0014
0455 0001 0001 0455 0001
00
14:15:24.51 0:60:97:96:7a:5e 0:60:97:96:7a:5e sap e0 ui/C len=81
0050 0004 0001 0001
0455 0001 0001 0455 0002
00
14:15:25.05 0:60:97:96:7a:5e 0:60:97:96:7a:5e sap e0 ui/C len=191
00be 0004 0001
0455 0001 0001 0455 000b
5649 4e41 5445 4120 2020 2020 2020 2000
0102 5f
14:15:28.33 0:60:97:96:7a:5e Broadcast sap e0 ui/C len=161
00a0 0004
0452 0060 9796
FTP login incorrect when user specified
Dear Linux Experts, what might be the reason for the following behaviour of FTP when trying to log into my Linux device: the client shows 'connected to 134.2.4.8' but after specifying the user and the CORRECT password, it shows: '530 Login incorrect. Login failed' It can't be a problem of the hosts.allow and hosts.deny class i presume ? gg - gunfried geiger, institut museum fuer geologie und palaeontologie sigwartstrasse 10, D-72076 tuebingen phone +49-7071-29-72492 fax 6990 email: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOTE the double g) --- Free Spirit Free Tibet Free China -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sdram and linux
tony mollica wrote: Hi. Just looking for a little more info. Just installed 64megs 168 pin sdram (replacing the 64megs of the usual type 72 pin edo stuff) in my system and it appears to be causing file system corruption, as indicated on boot up by fsck (attempted boot up, actually). Booting from the rescue disk and running fsck reports lots of problems, fixes them all, but the problems reappear at the next reboot from the hard disk drive. Also ran into a problem with programs exiting unexpectedly and core dumping for no apparent reason. What kind of motherboard? Were the EDO dimms 5 Volt? Some motherboards will allow mixing or switching, but sometimes it is not so easy. Most SDRAM is 3.3 Volt, unbuffered. Some might not be. Make sure... Also, most SDRAM (especially PC100 stuff coming soon) has Serial Presence Detect(SPD) on it, so that when the POST code in BIOS is initializing hardware, it can properly configure memory timings and such based on the fact that SDRAM is different than EDO. It is possible to detect the difference between the two using old memory sizing techniques, but SPD is more accurate... if it is accurate! If your BIOS is not recognizing the SDRAM as SDRAM for some reason, you will not see stable behavior at all. Has there been any similar reports or other problems using 168 pin sdram type memory or are there any hardware or kernel settings that I may have overlooked to make this work? The memory works ok on 'other' o.s.'s and machines. Does the memory work okay in your machine with, say, DOS? I know, it sucks, but it is less demanding, so to speak. We have found in our testing at work that 16-bit and 32-bit other OS's from Redmond work okay most of the time with a particular memory config, but if you try to run the multitasking version (the one with the NT in it), you see a lot of blue screen. We Crash... Anyway, I would say that you should check motherboard/chipset requirements (3.3 or 5 volts-- important distinction, probably unbuffered), check that the BIOS knows how to configure SDRAM, and make sure the stuff works in some minimum config (like DOS). Simply booting and passing the BIOS memory test is not always enough. Finally, if you plan on upgrading to a 100MHz motherboard some time in the near future, get GOOD SDRAM. PC100 is fairly challenging. I have been spending a lot of time lately dealing with SDRAM on intel motherboards, so I got a little wordy. Hope it helps somebody... -dh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? I've tried converting to .eps and editing in tgif, however that renders the whole form illegible. I've always seen ps and pdf viewers, never editors. That just doesn't seem right. If this is off-topic, I apologize. Alladin Ghostscript seems to have decent support for going between Postscript and PDF. You can edit Postscript by hand with an editor, if you want. I think PDF is a binary format. I don't think you'll see too many tools to graphically edit raw Postscript files though - as it is an interpreted language based on Forth - it's much more complicated than just a bunch of vectors. I'd like to see a vector drawing package that could import EPS/PS graphics, and allow editing on that. Maybe the GNU Yellow Vector Editor project from Japan will eventually allow this (I haven't tried it yet): http://bandits.aist-nara.ac.jp/~masata-y/gyve/gyve.html I'd be interested in knowing which other ones people have experience with. I've only used xfig. The Gimp can read in EPS, I think - but then you would just get a big ugly bitmap. You might be able to use something like CorelDraw. Cheers, - Jim pgp56u8YIlC7E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Editing (e)ps graphics (was Re: .ps or .pdf editing app)
On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 01:36:59AM -0800, Jim Pick wrote: I'd like to see a vector drawing package that could import EPS/PS graphics, and allow editing on that. Package: pstoedit Section: graphics Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/graphics/pstoedit_2.60-1.1.deb Description: Converts ps files into edditable files for xfig/tgif, pstoedit allows to convert Postscript(TM) files to a simple vector graphic format, that can be edited. Currently tgif, xfig, and Framemaker(TM) (MIF-format) and flat PostScript are supported. pstoedit works by redefining the basic painting operators of Postscript. Others like image are not supported. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Glibc2
Carroll Kong wrote: What kind of success would I get if I simply got a tarball of the glibc2 libs and ran the mozilla package? It should work... right? Wrong. It isn't as simple as that. To run glibc2 (libc6 on Linux) you need to do a proper upgrade according to the libc5-libc6 Howto. Use the autoup.sh script to do it. If you don't do things in the right order, you can end up with an unusable system. Once you have libc6 installed correctly, you can run mozilla, or any other libc6-linked program. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Alex Romosan wrote: You might want to tell everyone that it comes _without_ the news and mail readers. look at this as an added bonus. no more unreadable html mail from clueless newbies (or seasoned morons). --alex-- Actually, if you have a decent MIME-configured email reader, HTML mail shouldn't give you a problem. Netscape *does* deviate from the good-conduct rules though, by not also including a plain-text version :( *sigh* Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fat 32 and Linux.
On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 08:05:57PM -0500, Dr Zap wrote: Currently I am using Windows 95 OSR2 with fat32 enabled. I do have the utility that will allow Windows 95 to read the Linux partition and it works great. My question, I have been trying to set up the Debian version of Linux (kernel 1.30 I think) to read the fat32 partition. I have configured the drivers for this about four times with the same results. When it gets to vfat, it hangs. Before this it would say that it couldn't recognize the partition. Here's my current config; The old Linux kernel does not support FAT32. Note that VFAT and FAT32 are different; VFAT is only 16 bit. If I am not mistaken, the FAT32 patch is already applied to the latest Debian kernel-source-2.0.33-6 package. Go grab it! :-) Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://olvc.home.ml.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Alex Romosan wrote: Hey, I don't like html mail either, but that was too hard. Dont you think so? Alex Y. not really. i usually delete such mail right away without even reading it. and i don't care where it comes from: my boss or from somebody off the net i don't even know. sorry. sarcasm Yeah. I know what you mean. I really hate blue envelopes. Anything that comes through the door in a blue envelope, I chuck it. Don't care who it's from, I refuse to see the white-envelope standard polluted. /sarcasm Personally, I never ignore email from clients. Whatever the format. I find my business improves when I'm prepared to communicate with them. Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org mirroring at Sunsite
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote: Dear all, Does anybody of you know the reason why hamm/frozen is not mirrored at the mother-Sunsite and countless mirrors? It will be so much easier for European people to download the rought 300-350 MB of the distribution. Have wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this - no avail. It is on the UK sunsite. sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/debian(/dists/frozen) /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slink [was: Re: Debian Hamm Dselect]
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, William R. Ward wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simple. Slink doesn't currently duplicate anything that is in hamm. Set
dselect or whatever to look in dists/frozen and dists/unstable if you want
stuff specifically from slink.
How do I do that? There is only one each of 'main', 'non-free', and
'contrib', and only one Packages file for each. Is there a way to get
a Packages file that covers hamm with the changes from slink? Or
should I just stick with hamm for now?
dists/{frozen,unstable}/{main,non-free,contrib}
Its not just this easy. I did it and upadated all packages.
AND compiled my kernel with gcc 2.8.1
Result:
Any graphics where fucked. (XFree86, SVGAtextmode, SVGAlib)
Then i downgraded to gcc 2.7.x - Everything works fine again.
I don't know, why this could happen.
Maybe gcc 2.8.1 does not compile the kernel properly or some libs where
fucked.
If anyone has an explanation for this problem - plz mail
Thanks,
Florian Attenberger
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Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? Try the pstoedit package. I'm not sure if it will do exactly what you want, but it's worth a try. For example, you can do: pstoedit -f fig filename.ps and it will convert it as best it is able, to an xfig format file. It worked quite well for some stuff I was doing. That's for postscript - I don't know about pdf - what's the difference, anyone? Cheers, Mark. __ _\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/ \__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/ \__/_\__/--\__/__/ /__To be is to do.__I. Kant___/ \__/__\__/___/ /__To do is to be.__A. Sartre_/ /__I am.God___/ /__Jesus did.___/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Killing NetBios Network Connections
On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 05:49:25PM -0500, Carroll Kong wrote: How exactly do I kill an active Network Connection (NETBIOS) so they are forced to reconnect to me? (reauthenticate themselves)? netstat -kill? hehehe? Basically something analagous to MS's net use /delete IPC$ killall nmbd smbd :) Mirek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote: Actually, if you have a decent MIME-configured email reader, HTML mail shouldn't give you a problem. No offense to you personally, but this argument is also used by the more braindead Microcronies: If you'd used decent software, you could read the Excel sheet / Powerpoint presentation / Word97 document that I've just sent you by email. It's not my fault you're not conforming to standards. A lot of people confuse Standard with Convenient To Me And My Whimsy. This kind of reasoning turns well-defined and commonly accepted standards that are very well fitted to the job at hand into a silly fringe thing, without any necessity or sensible reason. Very often this is stimulated by vendors of the enhancements, who mostly try to lure you into their tarpit of proprietary protocols. The sort that you can easily buy into, but a lot harder out of. I like to think that by nature, efficient forms of communication seek a least common multiple among communicating parties to reduce potential misunderstanding and to increase the efficiency of the effort to communicate. Only when communicating parties can agree on a specific context, it makes sense to put additional factors into the common multiple to improve efficiency of communication. Please tell me how html-mail, microsoft-word-mail and, soon in a theater near you, activeX-mail improve general communication by email on the public internet. At some companies (like mine :-( ) people will startup MS Word to write an email of three lines. On average, I get at least one powerpoint presentation every week, generally consisting of say, 3 sheets, each with one and a half sentence on it. If all of these messages were sent as three lines of plaintext, the readability of it as an email would have been much better, even for those who do like to use various office software products. Now if people would start to use the time, spent on crafting powerpoint sheets, on content instead, some of it might even have been more sensible. Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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swap space
I asked earlier on this list about why memory is sucked up into buffers. I appreciate the answers and thank everyone who responded. Now I have a new question: why won't the kernel release the swap space that it apparently needed sometime earlier? The kernel is 2.0.30 Here's a snapshot of /proc/meminfo. Please note that it has 29 megs of physical memory available, but still insist on using swap space. total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 97660928 68157440 29503488 11612160 48906240 5804032 Swap: 33026048 319488 32706560 MemTotal: 95372 kB MemFree: 28812 kB MemShared:11340 kB Buffers: 47760 kB Cached:5668 kB SwapTotal:32252 kB SwapFree: 31940 kB -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap space
I asked earlier on this list about why memory is sucked up into buffers. I appreciate the answers and thank everyone who responded. Now I have a new question: why won't the kernel release the swap space that it apparently needed sometime earlier? The kernel is 2.0.30 Here's a snapshot of /proc/meminfo. Please note that it has 29 megs of physical memory available, but still insist on using swap space. [ snip ] Why would the kernel release the swap if it isn't necessary? You are talking about `using swap space' as if it is an activity. It isn't. The pages in the swap space just sit there. If the kernel would page them back into memory, and after some time memory became short again, it would have to write them to disk _again_. Now that would be a waste. The swapped out pages will be swapped in when they are needed, not earlier. Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap space
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked earlier on this list about why memory is sucked up into buffers. I appreciate the answers and thank everyone who responded. Now I have a new question: why won't the kernel release the swap space that it apparently needed sometime earlier? The kernel is 2.0.30 Here's a snapshot of /proc/meminfo. Please note that it has 29 megs of physical memory available, but still insist on using swap space. total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 97660928 68157440 29503488 11612160 48906240 5804032 Swap: 33026048 319488 32706560 Why should it release them? Why bother to copy 300K of very rarely accessed memory from disk into RAM when it is quite happily leaving them there, and thus having more free RAM? It doesn't swap pages back from disk to RAM until something accesses them (if I understand correctly). Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slink [was: Re: Debian Hamm Dselect]
On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 12:49:55PM +0200, Florian Attenberger wrote: Its not just this easy. I did it and upadated all packages. AND compiled my kernel with gcc 2.8.1 Result: Any graphics where fucked. (XFree86, SVGAtextmode, SVGAlib) Then i downgraded to gcc 2.7.x - Everything works fine again. I don't know, why this could happen. Maybe gcc 2.8.1 does not compile the kernel properly or some libs where fucked. My current understanding of this problem is this: The ioport.c file in the kernel was written using the gcc documentation on the workings of its optimisation code. That documentation currently does not reflect gcc's internal workings accurately. Linus wants the gcc developers to decide which is wrong: the documentation or the code. You can circumvent the problem by using ioport.c from a recent 2.1.x kernel. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 01:34:46PM +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: A lot of people confuse Standard with Convenient To Me And My Whimsy. One of the ways suggested on comp.mail.misc for dealing with text/html mail is to reply in application/postscript . I would not recommend this, except in cases were prior explanation of the issue had failed, (and of course if I would recommend it, I would suggest an additional Content-Transfer-Encoding: rot13). Greetings, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems using xmaple in a remote xterminal
I am using the Linux version of maple V R4 (maple is a computer algebra system). If I start xmaple (the graphical interface) locally, everything works fine. However, if I try to use a remote xterminal (using rlogin or telnet) I get a segmentation fault. More recently I noticed that the same problem also happens with Netscape Communicator 4.04. I have posted this problem to the maple user group (MUG) and I got a couple of answers. They basically say that there have been problems with Linux 2.0.029 and higher when using DISPLAY in the form hostname:0.0. , and that I should try one of the following: xmaple -display ip_number_of_host:0.0 or xmaple -display :0.0 Another suggestion was that fully resolved numeric entries should be added in the /etc/hosts. I have already tried all these but the problem persists. As a last resort it has been suggested that could try falling back a few kernels since it seems that linux changed the way it did gethostbyname(). Since I have many other good reasons to keep a kernel higher than 2.0.27, I did not try to downgrade my kernel. I am sure that there must be a better solution. May be I am missing some kernel configuration option (?). Yours, Fernando PS - My Linux box is a Debian GNU/Linux 2.0.33 and the machine is a PII-300 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fat 32 and Linux.
Will Lowe wrote: Hate to answer a question with a question, but: that will allow Windows 95 to read the Linux partition and it works great. Where did you get this, and can I get a copy from the same place? I don't have any URL but the name is FSDEXT2. It provides read only access. I got it as FSDEXT2.ZIP. So a FTP-Search might help. - Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
Hey, Question: is a S3/Virge DX-3D videocard also supported by the xserver-s3v-3.3.2 package? Thanks for your help, Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fat 32 and Linux.
Thomas wrote: Will Lowe wrote: Hate to answer a question with a question, but: that will allow Windows 95 to read the Linux partition and it works great. Where did you get this, and can I get a copy from the same place? I don't have any URL but the name is FSDEXT2. It provides read only access. I got it as FSDEXT2.ZIP. So a FTP-Search might help. Here goes: http://www.globalxs.nl/home/p/pvs/ The version I used, 0.17a, caused trouble with certain screen savers. I swa that the author now recommends version 0.16 as the latest stable version. Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unidentified subject!
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Remco van de Meent wrote: Hey, Question: is a S3/Virge DX-3D videocard also supported by the xserver-s3v-3.3.2 package? Thanks for your help, Yes. I'm using one right now, with 4MB. Does 640x480x24bpp nicely. Can't test higher res, my monitor is broken :( 3D accel isn't used, though. Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote: Actually, if you have a decent MIME-configured email reader, HTML mail shouldn't give you a problem. Joost Kooij wrote: At some companies (like mine :-( ) people will startup MS Word to write an email of three lines. At my lab, after installing MS-Outlook as the `corporate EMail system', the Informatics guy send 200 users a document explaining that each user had a 20 MB mailbox limit and explained how to automatically delete `old' mail. His 1-page note was sent as a 1MB Word document filling up 5% of everyone's mailbox, using up a lot of ressources to send in 200 copies! Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: Hi, I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? Idraw (in ivtools-bin) generates and reads postscript. I've never tried to read in postscript that it didn't generate, however. It probably only supports it's own subset, but you might want to try it out. Later, Dale -- + finger for pgp public key -+ | Dale E. Martin | University of Cincinnati Savant Research Laboratory | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.ececs.uc.edu/~dmartin | +--+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote: Actually, if you have a decent MIME-configured email reader, HTML mail shouldn't give you a problem. Joost Kooij wrote: At some companies (like mine :-( ) people will startup MS Word to write an email of three lines. At my lab, after installing MS-Outlook as the `corporate EMail system', the Informatics guy send 200 users a document explaining that each user had a 20 MB mailbox limit and explained how to automatically delete `old' mail. His 1-page note was sent as a 1MB Word document filling up 5% of everyone's mailbox, using up a lot of ressources to send in 200 copies! Peter An amusing story. I'm doubtful though... I've written long essays and papers which aren't 1MB even in MS Word.. Jules [wondering if maybe this topic is drifting ;) ] /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP login incorrect when user specified
gunfried geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Linux Experts, what might be the reason for the following behaviour of FTP when trying to log into my Linux device: the client shows 'connected to 134.2.4.8' but after specifying the user and the CORRECT password, it shows: '530 Login incorrect. Login failed' It can't be a problem of the hosts.allow and hosts.deny class i presume ? gg No; if it were an /etc/hosts.deny or /etc/hosts.allow issue, you wouldn't even get that far. However, ftp denies normal users the ability to log in if their username is listed in /etc/ftpusers, or if the user has a non-standard shell. (A shell is considered non-standard if it's not listed in /etc/shells). Could either of these be the case? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote: At my lab, after installing MS-Outlook as the `corporate EMail system', the Informatics guy send 200 users a document explaining that each user had a 20 MB mailbox limit and explained how to automatically delete `old' mail. His 1-page note was sent as a 1MB Word document filling up 5% of everyone's mailbox, using up a lot of ressources to send in 200 copies! Well, I can tell you that where I work (not for Philips actually, don't blame them.) 15,000 other people work. And yes, we do get sent word documents by the mass. The address list they use for that purpose is split on alphabet. The result is that the word document is not the biggest part, the header is: 300KB just for the letter k. Add to that the size of the body and multiply by 15,000 sigh Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I love Bill!
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- I have had a moment of clarity this morning and I have seen the light!! No longer will I be a part of the Debian community because its purpose is flawed. I will run Microsoft Win95 from now on! So Win95 crashes all the time, at least I can through to their tech-support when I need to. Someday maybe all of you will return to a real OS. -Ian (.sig removed) I really enjoy his wonderful nonoperating system! It give me so many chances to waste hours trying to undo the things it decides are best for me. And Internet Destroyer IV, what a lovely browser for ALL my computing needs. Why just last week I lost about three days to trying to undo the things he did to my system without asking. I really love that. I think I will rush out and buy a couple more systems, so I can fill up the rest of my spare time. No more boring days. Every day will be lived to it's fullest. WOW! No wonder BILL is the only game in town! /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills* Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A.* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.networksplus.net/wpmills/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP login incorrect when user specified
If hosts.allow/hosts.deny were preventing you you'd never get a login prompt. gunfried geiger wrote: Dear Linux Experts, what might be the reason for the following behaviour of FTP when trying to log into my Linux device: the client shows 'connected to 134.2.4.8' but after specifying the user and the CORRECT password, it shows: '530 Login incorrect. Login failed' It can't be a problem of the hosts.allow and hosts.deny class i presume ? gg - gunfried geiger, institut museum fuer geologie und palaeontologie sigwartstrasse 10, D-72076 tuebingen phone +49-7071-29-72492 fax 6990 email: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOTE the double g) --- Free Spirit Free Tibet Free China -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I love Bill!
I woul dbet thatApril 1 had alot to do with it but... the person who wrote it really tocuhed hom ehere those are all the reasons I love Bill Gates and Win95... If they didn't crash all the time I wouldn't have a job :) (and this job fixing end-luser machines pays well enough and gives me lots of free time in between calls to persue my interests in Linux and work towards bettering my linux/Unix skills to hopefully leave this dump and get a better job! Thanx Uncle Bill :) -Steve Bob Hilliard wrote: ' ALLAN W. BART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote: snip (.sig removed) Could the date have something to do with it? Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I love Bill!
W Paul Mills wrote: I really enjoy his wonderful nonoperating system! It give me so many chances to waste hours trying to undo the things it decides are best for me. :) Windowsn't 4.0 is a huge beast that has not too much more dis-functionality than Lose95.. And Internet Destroyer IV, what a lovely browser for ALL my computing needs. Ah.. good old Internet Exploder... Why just last week I lost about three days to trying to undo the things he did to my system without asking. I really love that. I think I will rush out and buy a couple more systems, so I can fill up the rest of my spare time. No more boring days. Every day will be lived to it's fullest. WOW! No wonder BILL is the only game in town! Big Bill.. He da man! :) He's also scared.. I heard from my contact at Intel that they (MS) are now going over Mozilla sources on their Linux boxen (they seem to be using RH :( ), trying to see how much this will hurt them.. Gotta love it.. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP login incorrect when user specified
Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: If hosts.allow/hosts.deny were preventing you you'd never get a login prompt. Correct. gunfried geiger wrote: Dear Linux Experts, what might be the reason for the following behaviour of FTP when trying to log into my Linux device: the client shows 'connected to 134.2.4.8' but after specifying the user and the CORRECT password, it shows: '530 Login incorrect. Login failed' It can't be a problem of the hosts.allow and hosts.deny class i presume ? This is mostl likely a snafu caused by installing lshell and /etc/shells not getting updated... Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP login incorrect when user specified
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote: gunfried geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Linux Experts, what might be the reason for the following behaviour of FTP when trying to log into my Linux device: the client shows 'connected to 134.2.4.8' but after specifying the user and the CORRECT password, it shows: '530 Login incorrect. Login failed' It can't be a problem of the hosts.allow and hosts.deny class i presume ? gg No; if it were an /etc/hosts.deny or /etc/hosts.allow issue, you wouldn't even get that far. However, ftp denies normal users the ability to log in if their username is listed in /etc/ftpusers, or if the user has a non-standard shell. (A shell is considered non-standard if it's not listed in /etc/shells). Could either of these be the case? thanks for the hint (and for those of other people too) i checked both and found: denied are root, uucp, news allowed are /bin/sh bash tcsh csh and i use tcsh, but now also tried sh - no success but: previously (months ago, before an update of some packages may be, as Tom Sailer suspects) everything worked well ? gg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote: An amusing story. I'm doubtful though... I've written long essays and papers which aren't 1MB even in MS Word.. They do, if you include OLE objects, like bitmaps. OLE needs an enormous overhead (receipes to make word crash seem to always involve OLE objects.) Also, a lot of word users don't know this, Word includes a lot of information you might not want it to include at all, like: - the place on your harddisk where you saved it; - if you cleared the document by deleting the old text in an old document, it actually keeps that text. In my department (where there are lots of FreeBSD users) this was discovered when some manager sent a document around, ordering everybody to use Microsoft exchange. when it was cat word.doc | strings | fmt | less, it also showed another text, which was quite embarrassing (yes, the content too.); - lots of superfluous stuff like font definitions that you didn't use; - dangerous macros (word viruses - a word document is actually a dynamic part of the word program); Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC] Announce: Archive for Free Software in Real Life
An Archive for Free Software in Real Life - There's been a lot of discussion lately about the free software paradigm and where it's headed. Now with the release of Netscape as free software, and formation of free software support companies like WilberWorks and Sendmail, among other events, the pace has been increasing. During these discussions, we've heard lots of stories that seem to be worth saving for others to learn from. We think that a community resource center (an archive with emphasis on the human experience) should be set up to record these thoughts and experiences. Story tellers know that you have to tell stories in order to hear some new ones: So we've set out a table with a few stories on it. There is plenty of room for your story, too! Write down stories, essays, comments - whatever you choose - it's all welcome as long as it relates to free software. Tell us how you participate in the free software community by using, developing, supporting, or making money from free software. The most important part is giving examples so that we can help to develop a community resource center of what works and what doesn't work. Part of what works and what doesn't work are extra-technical issues, in particular, cultural and power issues. You can see in the stories by Ken David that cultural misunderstandings and perceptions of power inequity can impede the work. We are trying to find ways to bridge over cultural differences and to neutralize power problems and thus facilitate free software development projects. We will write up stories and lessons and present them to you as soon as possible. Other resources --- Mailing list: Besides the repository, I have set up a mailing list for discussion of free software issues. This list parallels the crynwr.com free-software-business list, but the intent is to be more general in scope instead of focusing on business. This is *not* a forum for advocacy of any particular development style. Free software introduction: In addition, I'm working on a paper intended to provide an introduction to the free software community for non-technical people. If you'd take a look at the pre-release version of the paper and send me your comments, bug reports, and suggestions, I'd appreciate it. URLs * Free software repository: URL:http://pfaffben.user.msu.edu/fsr. * Free software introduction: URL:http://pfaffben.user.msu.edu/anp. * Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Join the mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Currently the list is manually operated, so subscription messages have no special format.) Thanks, Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ken David [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:00:56 +0200 (CEST), you wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote: At my lab, after installing MS-Outlook as the `corporate EMail system', the Informatics guy send 200 users a document explaining that each user had a 20 MB mailbox limit and explained how to automatically delete `old' mail. His 1-page note was sent as a 1MB Word document filling up 5% of everyone's mailbox, using up a lot of ressources to send in 200 copies! Well, I can tell you that where I work (not for Philips actually, don't blame them.) 15,000 other people work. And yes, we do get sent word documents by the mass. The address list they use for that purpose is split on alphabet. The result is that the word document is not the biggest part, the header is: 300KB just for the letter k. Add to that the size of the body and multiply by 15,000 sigh This same thing happens here. If you send to a mailing list it adds everyone on that list to the To: line. Ugh. Last place I worked, we used cc:Mail. Our connection to our parent company was by a 14.4 modem. Some people would send huge (3Meg) power point things, or 3 line word documents with full color company logo bitmaps for letterhead. The real problem was that the phone line was shared with our fax machine and our dial up ISP. I considered those 2 hour messages as a denial of service attack and limited the size of received mail to 100k or so. I was about ready to write a program that would examine the cc:Mail logs and generate some kind of reply, containing some hints on proper mail conduct, but never got my roundtuit. Dale -- Dale P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cleveland Linux Users Group: http://cleveland.lug.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: block device name for cd-rom
that depends on what type of CDROM you have if you are like most PC Users who can only afford cheap hardware (like me) then you probably use IDE, the device name would be /dev/hdX (where X is a letter ) a typical setup would be this: you have the hard drive ( C: in DOS) as the first device on the First IDE controller... this device is hda (and hda1 is the first parttion on that drive) the second (slave) device on IDE controler 1 is hdb then the 1st device on ide controler 2 is hdc then the snd (slave) is hdd you probably have the CDROM as either /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc (thats the one I use) you could have a differnt setup (say if it is SCSI) but I would say that is by far the most common, espcially for new users -Steve HHaque wrote: I have installed debian on hard drive. Now I am trying to use deselect. I chose access method as cd-rom. I am being prompted the following: Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name what should I enter here? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xlib6 (libc5 based) on a debian 2.0
I am not at home now so I can't really look but... I had a similar netscape problem I forget exactly how I fixed it but I strace'd netscape and saw that it was lookin gint he wrong place for a lib...so I made a sym link (thats 4.04) then I also had to install some othr library that I didn't have instaleld... but it works fine now (well...fine as it ever works) -Steve Jeffery D. Collins wrote: For netscape3 (I see you're running netscape4) there is a bus error fix at http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html. You may also check out the netscape debian packages in hamm/contrib/binary-i386/web. I have had trouble getting either netscape3 or netscape4 to work under with a clean hamm install. Apparently, neither version can find the X libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib nor /usr/lib/libc5-compat directories. My short term solution was to upload the older xlib6-3.3.1-2 libraries (as opposed to xlib6-3.3.2) to /usr/local/lib/tmp-fix, setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local/lib/tmp-fix, then run netscape. Jeff matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote: I am getting some very odd errors while trying to run libc5 based X-apps w/ debian 2.0 (frozen/hamm/unstable) I have xlib6-3.3.2 and libc5 all set up out of the oldlibs dir. This is a fresh installation. New drive, used Debian disks hamm/current 02/20/98 and a ftp install. My computer is a P5-200 w/ 64MB of Ram, Adaptec 2940UW, MilleniumII, Awe32, SCSI cd-rom, 3com XL 10/100. Kernel 2.0.33. XFree86-3.3-2. Here is my ld.so.conf: /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib /usr/local/lib The programs seg-fault everytime. Netscape 4.04 segfaults and gives a bus error. The strace yields: open(/usr/lib/netscape/dynfonts/libTrueDoc.so, O_RDONLY) = 13 read(13, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096 mmap(0, 118784, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x401fe000 mmap(0x401fe000, 109628, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 13, 0) = 0x401fe000 mmap(0x40219000, 5692, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 13, 0x1a000) = 0x40219000 close(13) = 0 mprotect(0x401fe000, 109628, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0 munmap(0x40008000, 10318) = 0 brk(0x895e000) = 0x895e000 brk(0x896e000) = 0x896e000 brk(0x896e000) = 0x896e000 brk(0x8971000) = 0x8971000 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- getpid()= 5406 kill(5406, SIGBUS) = 0 --- SIGBUS (Bus error) --- +++ killed by SIGBUS +++ There is a bunch more, but that is where is dies. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank You, Matt Pavlovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scientific Software Packaging Feedback
Purpose? We at Kachina Technologies, Inc. are very excited about the tremendously increasing popularity of our SAL (Scientific Application on Linux) web site. Based on encouraging user feedbacks, we want to go the extra mile to provide more services to the Linux and the Scientific and Engineering communities. What is SAL? SAL (Scientific Applications on Linux) web sites collect thousands of software links for scientists, engineers, and Linux ethusiasts. There is no doubt that SAL has become one of the most important, popular, and exciting software resources for the Linux and UNIX community. SAL was developed by Dr. Herng-Jeng Jou, along with many others at Kachina Technologies, Inc. While most system/network level applications are packaged by Linux distributors and provided on their CD-ROM distributions, most commonly used free scientific packages are still provided in source code format. Although many users contributed packages which are often found in /contrib directories on Linux distributors' FTP sites, lack of version tracking and centralized control hinder the appreciation of these individual efforts. We are facinated by the team work and coordination of GNU/Debian Linux people and want to pursue the same goal in software packaging for the Scientific and Engineering community. Our initial goal is to archive Debian (.deb), RedHat (.rpm), and simple binary tree (.tgz) used by many distributions including the popular Slackware distribution. At the same time, SAL's website will function as a repository and users can download the packages and install them on their systems immediately. However, we'd like to listen to your opinions on the best policies and procedures to get this job done correctly. Please tell us what scientific and engineering software (those with free source codes that are available of course) you would like to see packaged. Please email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and simply include: 1. Software name(s) 2. Preferred packaging format (RPM, DEB, or others) Although this is just a survey, we are quite serious and excited about doing this. The established packages will be available through SAL. Currently, there are 14 SAL sites installed worldwide, and their URLs are: Austria http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/scicomp/sal/ Finland http://sal.jyu.fi/ Germany http://ftp.llp.fu-berlin.de/lsoft/ Italy http://chpc06.ch.unito.it/linux/ Japan http://ec.tmit.ac.jp/koyama/linux/SAL/ Poland http://www.tuniv.szczecin.pl/linux/doc/other/SAL Portugalhttp://www.idite-minho.pt/SAL/ Russia http://www.sai.msu.su/sal/ South Africahttp://web.ee.up.ac.za/sal/ South Korea http://infosite.kordic.re.kr/sal Spain http://ceu.fi.udc.es/SAL/ Turkey http://sal.raksnet.com.tr United Kingdom http://www.ch.qub.ac.uk/SAL/ USA http://SAL.KachinaTech.COM We welcome your feedback, comments, and suggestions. Please send your messages (including mirroring requests) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, Team SAL Kachina Technologies, Inc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: desperately seeking installation
On 25-Mar-98 Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 10:48:40PM -0600, Ender Wigin wrote: Through long practice and much patience, I was able to see the word Calibrating on the display before it reboots, so if there's a stage during ... I just compiled 2.0.33. (I had been using 2.1.90 and that worked fine, and I booted each of 2.1.54, 2.1.65, 2.1.72, and 2.1.86 earlier today without incident). 2.0.33 reboot immediately, several times. I recompiled it with --zimage and it worked immediately. I didn't compile 2.1.90 like that though, so it's probably coincidental. I seem to be about the only one having this problem on a desktop machine. I, too, have had one machine that continually reboots when booted from the boot disk I created near the end of an installation with the (at the time) 'unstable' disks. It boots the rescue disk perfectly, though... Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot hang and debian hamm
Nils Rennebarth wrote: On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 09:10:16PM +, Jeffery D. Collins wrote: Here is lilo.conf: $ cat /etc/lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda1 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only try to remove compact and add the option linear. I just tried this, but it still hung on LI. Is this disk larger than 504 MB? That means you need either LBA or LARGE in the BIOS settings. If this is not possible your BIOS can't see the whole disk and you either need a BIOS upgrade or repartition and make a partition fully below the 504 MB limit. All of LILO should live there, i.e. make this your root partition. The disk is approx 250Meg, part of an old 486DX-33 system. This debianinstall actually replaces an older Redhat installation. During the install, I reformatted the partitions (approx 16 meg for swap, the remaining for root) and installed in the usual way. During the reboot process, everything went fine until the configuring of the serial ports (probably while executing code in the /etc/rc.boot/0setserial). The remaining portion of the boot obviously failed and though a login prompt appeared, a tty could not be found for actually logging in. I didn't know what the problem could be, so I rebuilt the kernel, installed it and ran lilo. (Note that the boot floppy created during the original install process continues to work fine.) It was then that the problem of the booting process halting at LI began. This problem now persists, even after switching back to the original kernel. It is for this reason that I suggested the possiblity of corrupted files, such as boot.b. So, though I could work around the problem using a boot floppy, I know that it should be bootable from the hard disk without extraordinary reconfiguring of lilo. Ultimately, that may mean reformating and reinstalling:( For fun, here are the partitions: -- bootable hard disk --- Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 31 sectors, 967 cylinders Units = cylinders of 496 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *11 900 223184+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda2 901 901 96716616 82 Linux swap second hard disk (data only)-- Disk /dev/hdb: 8 heads, 39 sectors, 762 cylinders Units = cylinders of 312 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 *11 761 118696+ 83 Linux native --- What are the BIOS settings for this hd? You need to partition it with the same settings as those you use it thereafter. If repartioning is an option try this. I'll have to check this tomorrow. Perhaps I should also specify thedisk geometry in the lilo.conf file as well. This might help if you use the LARGE setting. I wonder if the boot.b got corrupted somehow? Not very probable. Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L Linus Torvalds, W Winfried Truemper | | Lthis is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | WUmh, oh. What do you mean by special easter release?. Will it quit | * Wworking today and rise on easter? * Part 1.2 Type: application/pgp-signature -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
olvwm locks up ...
Hello, On a brand new install, Debian 2.0, using install disks from 29 Mar98. Machine has an S3 Trio 64/V+ ... I'm using the SVGA xserver, olvwm WM, and xdm. If any user tries to login via xdm, you get as far as the desktop, with two windows open (an xterm, and the virtual desktop window). There's an xconsole icon at the bottom. However, after that things are screwed pretty good. No mouse pointer, no keyboard ... ctrl-bkspc doesn't work, ctrl-alt-f[1-6] doesn't work ... even numlock doesn't work! It seems to be locked up solid. So ... what do I do now? I don't know how to troubleshoot this if I can't get back to a VC. If I've left out info, please ask. I'm fairly new to X ... I'm fairly confident in my install abilities as far as the rest of the system. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: olvwm locks up ...
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: : Hello, : : On a brand new install, Debian 2.0, using install disks from 29 Mar98. : Machine has an S3 Trio 64/V+ ... I'm using the SVGA xserver, olvwm WM, : and xdm. : : If any user tries to login via xdm, you get as far as the desktop, with : two windows open (an xterm, and the virtual desktop window). There's an : xconsole icon at the bottom. : : However, after that things are screwed pretty good. No mouse pointer, : no keyboard ... ctrl-bkspc doesn't work, ctrl-alt-f[1-6] doesn't work : ... even numlock doesn't work! It seems to be locked up solid. : : So ... what do I do now? I don't know how to troubleshoot this if I : can't get back to a VC. : : If I've left out info, please ask. I'm fairly new to X ... I'm fairly : confident in my install abilities as far as the rest of the system. Blah ... people who reply to their own posts are weird :) Anyway, here's some more info that I forgot to add. As long as the xdm login screen is up, all is well. However, once I reach this locked up state, the machine goes down hard ... I can't even ping it! Also, this thing has PII, 266 processor (2 of them, but no SMP kernel yet), and 320 MB RAM. Thanks, -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot hang and debian hamm
According to Jeffery D. Collins: Nils Rennebarth wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 06:44:10PM +, Jeffery D. Collins wrote: I have been unable to reboot the kernel. The only text printed to the screen is LI. Here is lilo.conf: $ cat /etc/lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda1 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only try to remove compact and add the option linear. Nils I just tried this, but it still hung on LI. Perhaps I should also specify thedisk geometry in the lilo.conf file as well. I wonder if the boot.b got corruptedsomehow? My problem may be related to this ``linear'' option. Debian is rooted on my 1st SCSI (1.0G) ((and continued on my 3rd 4.3G SCSI). BSD is rooted on my 2nd SCSI (4.3G). After many trials last night, LILO worked to boot Linux; it began to see my BSD boot partition, but then hung. On stdout was: ``Booting BSD LI'' and then an infinite hang. I haven't touched anything in the /boot directory, so /boot/boot.b has to be good. How can I tell if there is trouble with the geometry of my SCSI drives? More importantly, how can I resolve any problems?! And, what are the chances that BSD will boot if I add the ``linear'' option after striking ``compact''? Any//all feedback welcome... gary kline -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Utility needed
Have need of a utility for Solaris 2.x. Situation is as follows. Sun is fileserver for many Mac users. The users app will produce both large .txt and printable .ps files. The ps files may exceed 300mb. The need is to put files on Sun, mv the txt files to another directory, and print the ps files. After print, remove the ps files. The key is in determining when the file transfer TO the Sun server is complete so the above actions can take place. Do not want to mv or print files that are in a state of growing. Because by nature Mac network protocols are slow, and these files are large, and there could be many users active at one time, can not use a time mechanism to list files, wait x minutes etc, then perform the operations. Need utility that knows the actual state of the file. When properly closed and not being accessed, script continues and performs the above move and print commands. Know of any such utility to monitor the file state before action is taken on the files in question? Regards Bob Panther begin: vcard fn: Robert Panther n: Panther;Robert org:Automation Image Inc. adr:2650 Valley View Ln.;;;Dallas;Tx;75234;USA email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title: Systems Engineer tel;work: 972-247-8816 x101 tel;fax:972-243-2814 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
PM3 or MAX TNT
I was asked about why do not use PM3 instead of MAX TNT! Can someond tell about the two Access Servers? TIA Leonardo Ruoso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running java (JDK 1.02) applicatios.
Hello! I re-subscribed (and remembered why I unsubscribed - in 10 min. I had 7 msgs in my spool...). I installed all the important parts of the JDk 1.02 (at least all the parts that were at the ftp server). My CLASSPATH is set to .:/usr/lib/jdk/classes.zip but when ever I do java ???.class it says it can't find the class. Can you help? TIA, Liran Zvibel. http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
frozen Packages file out of sync with frozen files?
I have had a problemlately trying to dpkg-ftp files from ftp.debian.org. Even after updating the list of available packages, I get errors like this one: getting: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-5.deb (6684234) dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-5.deb: No such file or directory. When I checked manually with ftp, I found that kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-5.deb has apparently been replaced with kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-6.deb (I may possibly have the 6 in the wrong place). This sort of thing happened with many other packages as well. Is there another place to get packages files, or a way to tell dselect to get more recent versions? Right now I am using the following directories: Enter space seperated list of distributions to get [dists/frozen/main dists/frozen/non-free dists/unstable/contrib]: Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. Britton Kerin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lsof -i
Ulisses Alonso Camaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have build lsof for my system using the Debian, that is: dpkg-source -x lsof*something*.dsc cd lsof-something* dpkg-buildpackage Everithing seems Ok in the package building And Installed the packages. Nor the bo nor hamm versions show me the the Internet files/iNet sockets? Why? I had the same problems with the bo version of lsof. I installed lsof 4.26-1 from hamm and everything works fine now. What version out of hamm did you try? Unfortunatly, I don't know if that was a problem in the upstream version, I checked the ChangeLog file and couldn't find any entry about this. BTW: lsof -i should output a lot of lines on a normal system. Torsten -- Der Horizont vieler Menschen ist ein Kreis mit Radius Null -- und das nennen sie ihren Standpunkt. Fortune Cookie PGP Public key available -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forcing a process to have a new controlling terminal
Hello. I'm experimenting with pseudo-terminals, and I cannot find out how, after getting a pseudo-terminal how I can make it the controlling terminal (i.e. /dev/tty) of a newly-spawned process. Can anyone help me out? TIA -- Harmon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sendmail in hamm
I thought I saw a message recently about sendmail being slow. I've noticed this myself over the past few days. Anyone else? -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Utility needed
Well, first of all when you say state of the file this is a very vague term. Second of all this is a debian Linux list, not a Solaris list. Did you know you can run Debian Linux on sparc? Anyway, the closest you'll probably get is to user 'fuser' to find out if any process has the file open. Admin Bob Panther wrote: Have need of a utility for Solaris 2.x. Situation is as follows. Sun is fileserver for many Mac users. The users app will produce both large .txt and printable .ps files. The ps files may exceed 300mb. The need is to put files on Sun, mv the txt files to another directory, and print the ps files. After print, remove the ps files. The key is in determining when the file transfer TO the Sun server is complete so the above actions can take place. Do not want to mv or print files that are in a state of growing. Because by nature Mac network protocols are slow, and these files are large, and there could be many users active at one time, can not use a time mechanism to list files, wait x minutes etc, then perform the operations. Need utility that knows the actual state of the file. When properly closed and not being accessed, script continues and performs the above move and print commands. Know of any such utility to monitor the file state before action is taken on the files in question? Regards Bob Panther Robert Panther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Engineer Automation Image Inc. Robert Panther Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automation Image Inc. 2650 Valley View Ln. Work: 972-247-8816 x101 Dallas Fax: 972-243-2814 Tx Netscape Conference Address 75234 Netscape Conference DLS Server USA Additional Information: Last Name Panther First NameRobert Version 2.1 -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
David Stern wrote: I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? I think one of the possible reasons why tools like this are so rare is because postscript and pdf are *intended* to be final, read-only, printer-(not human)-friendly formats. I was looking for a postscript editor several years back and couldn't find anything (other than emacs). Months after giving up I finally understood the cryptic answer the local guru gave me: you're asking the wrong question. The (unsatisfactory) solution is to get the source document from which the ps or pdf was generated, edit *that*, then generate your new ps or pdf in the usuall way. If all you have is the ps or pdf, perhaps that too is intentional... Luck, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing a process to have a new controlling terminal
First open /dev/tty. Then do an TIOCNOTTY ioctl on the file. This will make it so your process no longer has a controling terminal. Then simply open a terminal-type device. It will become your controlling terminal (unless you specify otherwise, note the flag to open(2): O_NOCTTY If pathname refers to a terminal device -- see tty(4) -- it will not become the process's control ling terminal even if the process does not have one. Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote: Hello. I'm experimenting with pseudo-terminals, and I cannot find out how, after getting a pseudo-terminal how I can make it the controlling terminal (i.e. /dev/tty) of a newly-spawned process. Can anyone help me out? TIA -- Harmon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Knews and missing domain-name
I asked this question a week or so ago and received no answer. I searched the archives and found various others who asked the question and I found either that no-one answered or what was suggested didn't work for me. Here is the set-up: Latest Frozen version of Debian; dynamic ppp dialup; leafnode gathers the newsgroups I am interested in. Knews looks to localhost and can read news wonderfully. No problem there. But whenever I try to post or to forward news by mail I receive the error message: Domain name not available. From digging in the archives, I checked my hostname (gently) which by virtue of me being dynamic ppp does not exist outside of my own box. I checked dnsdomainname (netins.net) this does exist and is the domain name for my server. My /etc/hosts reads like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.0.1 gently.netins.net gently That's all I've been able to find out as meaningful from looking at previous discussions of this question. Where can I look now? -- The AtticKeeper: Rev. David Morris mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Leap and the net will appear -- unknown --- Nerdnosh Attic: http://www.nerdnosh.org/attic/ Lectionary Page: http://www.netins.net/showcase/dmorris/ -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hard Drive Petitioning
Hello, I am installing debian for the first time, and it boots fine from the floppy, but in the installation program, when I try to partition a hard disk (either of mine), it briefly flashes the 'installation program is determining the current state of your system' message, and at the very bottom of the screen it also says 'segmentation fault'. Then it dumps me right back in the main menu. I am somewhat of a newbie at this and any help would be appreciated, thanks. Ryan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Utility needed
We have a similar problem. What we did was send a marker file after the one with data in it. If the marker file is there, the file is finished. If using ftp it would be something like ftp -n somehost user username password cd theplaceyouwant put file.ps put file.done - 0 length or just \n quit Do something similar with cp commands if you use nfs. You can just use shell scripts to pick up the stuff on the receiving end. This problem is quite common and there are several other ways to attack it. Using lock files is another way. These procedural methods are a bit messy but they don't require root privilege. jim -- From: Admin Bob Panther[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 2:33 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: The recipient's address is unknown. Subject:Utility needed File: vcard.vcf Have need of a utility for Solaris 2.x. Situation is as follows. Sun is fileserver for many Mac users. The users app will produce both large .txt and printable .ps files. The ps files may exceed 300mb. The need is to put files on Sun, mv the txt files to another directory, and print the ps files. After print, remove the ps files. The key is in determining when the file transfer TO the Sun server is complete so the above actions can take place. Do not want to mv or print files that are in a state of growing. Because by nature Mac network protocols are slow, and these files are large, and there could be many users active at one time, can not use a time mechanism to list files, wait x minutes etc, then perform the operations. Need utility that knows the actual state of the file. When properly closed and not being accessed, script continues and performs the above move and print commands. Know of any such utility to monitor the file state before action is taken on the files in question? Regards Bob Panther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Poor interaction between chown and quota
Hi: In the process of debugging a variety of quota problems visible in procmail-based mail delivery and qpopper-based mail pickup, I believe I've identified an interaction problem between chown and quota. Essentially, if a program running as superuser creates/appends/edits a file which would put the user over soft quota, and then chown's it to the appropriate user, the user is considered over soft quota with NO grace period. I've already found this to be problematic in the following situations: 1) I use sendmail with procmail as the local delivery agent. If an incoming message would put the user over soft quota, the message is returned undeliverable with the message overquota. IMHO, this shouldn't happen unless the user would exceed hard quota or has expired his/her grace period. The tricky part is I use a perl script run out of cron to notify people if they're over quota...unfortunately I notify via email. 2) I use qpopper to offer email to our customers. Quotas are enforced (10M soft, 21M hard) on the /var partition, which therefore limits both the user's mailbox and the corresponding copy which qpopper creates beneath /var/spool/pop . Since the user's mailbox can't exceed 10M (see problem 1, above), the user can't (easily) exceed 20M of disk usage while qpopper has the /var/spool/pop/username.pop file in use, so the user can't exceed their hard quota. Some of our users are unable to POP their mail because of the following error: Apr 1 13:15:59 webhost in.qpopper[8981]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -ERR Unable to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded (122) Obviously, something isn't right. Are there any patches/fixes that I can apply? Should I file a bug, and if so, against which package? If anyone wants further information, please email. TIA! tcsh# dpkg -s qpopper Package: qpopper Status: install ok installed Priority: extra Section: mail Installed-Size: 110 Maintainer: Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 2.2-4 tcsh# dpkg -s procmail Package: procmail Status: install ok installed Priority: standard Section: mail Installed-Size: 209 Maintainer: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 3.10.4-2 tcsh# dpkg -s quota Package: quota Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 118 Maintainer: Heiko Schlittermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 1.55-8 tcsh# dpkg -s fileutils Package: fileutils Essential: yes Status: install ok installed Priority: required Section: base Installed-Size: 1011 Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 3.16-2 Pete -- Peter J. Templin, Jr. Systems and Networks Administrator JD-WEB Computer Sales and Service 429 Market St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lewisburg, PA 17837 (717)523-6800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poor interaction between chown and quota
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Pete Templin wrote: : : Hi: : : In the process of debugging a variety of quota problems visible in : procmail-based mail delivery and qpopper-based mail pickup, I believe I've : identified an interaction problem between chown and quota. Essentially, : if a program running as superuser creates/appends/edits a file which would : put the user over soft quota, and then chown's it to the appropriate user, : the user is considered over soft quota with NO grace period. I've already : found this to be problematic in the following situations: : : 1) I use sendmail with procmail as the local delivery agent. If an : incoming message would put the user over soft quota, the message is : returned undeliverable with the message overquota. IMHO, this shouldn't : happen unless the user would exceed hard quota or has expired his/her : grace period. The tricky part is I use a perl script run out of cron to : notify people if they're over quota...unfortunately I notify via email. Hmm, I hadn't noticed this (yet). I will test and try to confirm. : 2) I use qpopper to offer email to our customers. Quotas are enforced : (10M soft, 21M hard) on the /var partition, which therefore limits both : the user's mailbox and the corresponding copy which qpopper creates : beneath /var/spool/pop . Since the user's mailbox can't exceed 10M (see : problem 1, above), the user can't (easily) exceed 20M of disk usage while : qpopper has the /var/spool/pop/username.pop file in use, so the user can't : exceed their hard quota. Some of our users are unable to POP their mail : because of the following error: : : Apr 1 13:15:59 webhost in.qpopper[8981]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -ERR Unable : to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded (122) Since quotas are filesystem based, you must plan your filesystem layout accordingly. The only easy way around this is to either insure that /var/spool/mail and /var/spool/pop are seperate filesystems, or grab the qpopper sources and make popper put its tempfiles somewhere other than /var/spool/pop ... preferably a seperate filesystem. I don't think you can blame the second problem on qpopper. I ran into this problem with a BSDi box ... they put both the mailbox _and_ the popfile in /var/mail! That wasn't too optimal :) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I create /proc???
I am trying to backup my Debian 1.3.1 system and make it bootable from a Jaz drive. I have copied the essential directories (cp -a) from my system to the Jaz. If I create an empty /proc directory on the Jaz and boot from a floppy with the Jaz as root, the boot fails just before I get a prompt - absolutely no error message. If I delete the /proc directory from the Jaz drive, I manage to get a login prompt (but I get many errors at bootup about there being no /proc directory). How do I resolve this problem? I have not found any FM to R. Thanks for any assistance, Maria Rightley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poor interaction between chown and quota
Hello, : 2) I use qpopper to offer email to our customers. Quotas are enforced : (10M soft, 21M hard) on the /var partition, which therefore limits both : the user's mailbox and the corresponding copy which qpopper creates : beneath /var/spool/pop . You can user another POP3 Server, like qmail-pop3d or some other Poppers which do not need to copy the whole mailbox. Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poor interaction between chown and quota
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Pete Templin wrote: : : Hi: : : In the process of debugging a variety of quota problems visible in : procmail-based mail delivery and qpopper-based mail pickup, I believe I've : identified an interaction problem between chown and quota. Essentially, : if a program running as superuser creates/appends/edits a file which would : put the user over soft quota, and then chown's it to the appropriate user, : the user is considered over soft quota with NO grace period. I've already : found this to be problematic in the following situations: : : 1) I use sendmail with procmail as the local delivery agent. If an : incoming message would put the user over soft quota, the message is : returned undeliverable with the message overquota. IMHO, this shouldn't : happen unless the user would exceed hard quota or has expired his/her : grace period. The tricky part is I use a perl script run out of cron to : notify people if they're over quota...unfortunately I notify via email. Hmm, I hadn't noticed this (yet). I will test and try to confirm. : 2) I use qpopper to offer email to our customers. Quotas are enforced : (10M soft, 21M hard) on the /var partition, which therefore limits both : the user's mailbox and the corresponding copy which qpopper creates : beneath /var/spool/pop . Since the user's mailbox can't exceed 10M (see : problem 1, above), the user can't (easily) exceed 20M of disk usage while : qpopper has the /var/spool/pop/username.pop file in use, so the user can't : exceed their hard quota. Some of our users are unable to POP their mail : because of the following error: : : Apr 1 13:15:59 webhost in.qpopper[8981]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -ERR Unable : to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded (122) Since quotas are filesystem based, you must plan your filesystem layout accordingly. The only easy way around this is to either insure that /var/spool/mail and /var/spool/pop are seperate filesystems, or grab the qpopper sources and make popper put its tempfiles somewhere other than /var/spool/pop ... preferably a seperate filesystem. I don't think you can blame the second problem on qpopper. This would solve problem 2, but not problem 1. I have a wonderful workaround for problem 2: NFS mount /var/spool/mail on another server, install qpopper, and change the IP address of pop.jdweb.com. However, this only works if management store staff (which are the same two people) used the correct hostnames in everyone's setup. :) I figure the problem is somewhere between the chown system call and quota, but I'm not sure. Looking forward to your ideas and suggestions, or directions towards what to file a bugreport on... Pete -- Peter J. Templin, Jr. Systems and Networks Administrator JD-WEB Computer Sales and Service 429 Market St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lewisburg, PA 17837 (717)523-6800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
uucp conection
Hi, My linux box is set to send mail via uucp to another linux server. What are the services/inetd.conf lines I have to uncomment to successfully send email? Thanks, []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
