Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
David Stern wrote: I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? Keith Beattie wrote: I think one of the possible reasons why tools like this are so rare is because postscript and pdf are *intended* to be final, read-only, printer-(not human)-friendly formats. I was looking for a postscript editor several years back and couldn't find anything (other than emacs). Months after giving up I finally understood the cryptic answer the local guru gave me: you're asking the wrong question. The (unsatisfactory) is to get the source document from which the ps or pdf was generated, edit *that*, then generate your new ps or pdf in the usuall way. If all you have is the ps or pdf, perhaps that too is intentional... Luck, Keith Still another (unsatisfactory) solution. In the past, with no conversion utility handy, I displayed the postscript file in one window and coppied/Pasted it to my favorite editor in another window. I've done this many times on the VAX with Xwindows and surprised my friends with less capable windowing systems by providing them with a file they could edit. John C. Ellingboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot
Hi, Jules == Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sarcasm Jules Yeah. I know what you mean. I really hate blue envelopes. Jules Anything that comes through the door in a blue envelope, I Jules chuck it. Don't care who it's from, I refuse to see the Jules white-envelope standard polluted. /sarcasm Well, if my clients ever sent me mail in an envelope that said You are a confirmed winner!! their mail is going to be unread too. The evelope and the medium often speaks volumes ... manoj -- ...It is sad to find him belaboring the science community for its united opposition to ignorant creationists who want teachers and textbooks to give equal time to crank arguments that have advanced not a step beyond the flyblown rhetoric of Bishop Wilberforce and William Jennings Bryan. Martin Gardner, Irving Kristol and the Facts of Life, The Skeptical Inquirer, Vol. XII No. 2, ppg. 128-131 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Turning on NumLock with X
Is there any way to get X to turn on NumLock when it starts up? According to the manpage xset led integer should do that. But I tried it and couldn't get it work. Someone any idea? It was my impression that that simply turned on the led -- it doesn't actually enable NumLock. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Touch passion when it comes your way. It's rare enough as it is; don't walk away when it calls you by name. -- Marcus (Babylon 5) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Files in 2 or more packages
To make people report these duplications. A lot of bugs have been submitted and many of those have been fixed now. The result will be that there will be a lot less of these imperfections in hamm when it is released. When it is released, --force-overwrite is supposed to be turned on again (and off again on the next upload to the new unstable.) Is it considered to be an error to have a file in 2 different packages? If that's the case, it would be enough a script inspection at the Contents file. Look, for example: (...) usr/man/man8/ftpd.8.gz net/wu-ftpd,net/netstd usr/man/man8/ftpshut.8.gz net/wu-ftpd,net/proftpd,net/wu-ftpd-academ (...) usr/man/man8/getclose.8.gz devel/gnats-user,devel/gnats (...) Unfortunately, that is insufficient. For example, gnats and gnats-user are mutually exclusive. Each conflicts with the other. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Seize the moment! Live now. Make now always the most important time. -- JLP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Editing java files.
Well, It's a bit weird to answer yourself, but you may take a look at: http://sunsite.auc.dk/jde/ I didn't install it yet, but it looks promising. HTH, Liran Zvibel. http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Files in 2 or more packages
Brian White writes: To make people report these duplications. A lot of bugs have been submitted and many of those have been fixed now. The result will be that there will be a lot less of these imperfections in hamm when it is released. When it is released, --force-overwrite is supposed to be turned on again (and off again on the next upload to the new unstable.) Is it considered to be an error to have a file in 2 different packages? If that's the case, it would be enough a script inspection at the Contents file. Look, for example: (...) usr/man/man8/ftpd.8.gz net/wu-ftpd,net/netstd usr/man/man8/ftpshut.8.gz net/wu-ftpd,net/proftpd,net/wu-ftpd-academ (...) usr/man/man8/getclose.8.gz devel/gnats-user,devel/gnats (...) Unfortunately, that is insufficient. For example, gnats and gnats-user are mutually exclusive. Each conflicts with the other. You comment is very precise, but isolating the names of the packages, and running dpkg to see if they both (or at least one of them, because of some weird upgrade cases) conflict with the other would not take more than 5 lines of perl, and, yes: I know someone out there could do it in only 1 line :^ Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Seize the moment! Live now. Make now always the most important time. -- JLP -- Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella Product Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.conexware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
disk partition problem
Hello. I have been reading about Debian, and I am eager to try it out. However, I seem to have a problem that I have not found an answer for yet, even after searching through all of the FAQ's and help documents I could find. The problem is with partitioning my hard disk. I DO NOT want to wipe it out (like using fdisk), so instead I tried FIPS (found on the Linux CD). First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried to run fips. Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard disk. So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine. And that's where I'm stuck. Please help me or tell me where I can get help so I can free myself from the tyranny of Windows!! Thanks for your time Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Files in 2 or more packages
Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You comment is very precise, but isolating the names of the packages, and running dpkg to see if they both (or at least one of them, because of some weird upgrade cases) conflict with the other would not take more than 5 lines of perl, and, yes: I know someone out there could do it in only 1 line :^ In fact, someone has done this and has been posting the results to debian-devel, and most conflicts like this have been caught. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jdk1.1-dev depends on jdk1.1-runtime
Hi, Choosing jdk1.1-dev in dselect on frozen/hamm dumps me into the conflict resolution thing with the message jdk1.1-dev depends on jdk1.1-runtime Is this true? Where do I get jdk1.1-runtime? thanks, Stuart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
disk partition problem
Hello. I have been reading about Debian, and I am eager to try it out. However, I seem to have a problem that I have not found an answer for yet, even after searching through all of the FAQ's and help documents I could find. The problem is with partitioning my hard disk. I DO NOT want to wipe it out (like using fdisk), so instead I tried FIPS (found on the Linux CD). First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried to run fips. Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard disk. So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine. And that's where I'm stuck. Please help me or tell me where I can get help so I can free myself from the tyranny of Windows!! Thanks for your time Chris P.S. If you received the message twice, it is because I didn't confirm my subscription until AFTER I sent this message. Just wanted to be sure this got through. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing large packages from DOS formatted diskette
Hi, I am a newbie to Debian. Recently I installed Debian 1.3 on my PC from diskettes. It is working fine. However I downloaded some Debain packages which are larger than 1.44M (diskette size). How can I install these packages? I have DOS/Windows tools like pkzip, arj, gzip but I am not sure how to decompress it to a Linux partition on my hard disk. My guess is that I need a DOS partition but I couldn't create one using the Rescue Disk. BTW, which type of DOS partition do I create? FAT12, FAT16, etc.. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Chee Seng ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk partition problem
on the Linux CD). First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried to run fips. Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard disk. So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine. And First, what kind of filesystem you have: FAT16 or FAT32. If FAT32, do you use FAT32-capable FIPS? When you do defrag, do you see some unmovable files at the end of your drive? Thanks. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How to make kernel release socket..
Hi Firends ! I try to implement server program for specific purpose. If the server is killed, I found that the server can't binding again the socket for about 1 min. How to make kernel release socket, instantaneously, when the process killed? In addition, when the client is died without closing socket, I found that the server receive SIGPIPE and then server died.. How can we make the server ignore the SIGPIPE signal... Thanks for any helps whkye begin: vcard fn;quoted-printable:=B0=E8 =BF=F8=C8=A3 (Won-Ho Kye) n;quoted-printable:;=B0=E8 =BF=F8=C8=A3 (Won-Ho Kye) org;quoted-printable:=BC=D2=C7=C1=C6=AE=C6=F7=B7=B3 (SoftForum) adr;quoted-printable:;;=B4=EB=C7=D1=B9=CE=B1=B9(Korea) email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title;quoted-printable:=B0=E8=BF=F8=C8=A3=C0=C7 address card tel;work: 0342-780-6802 tel;fax: 0342-780-6820 note;quoted-printable:=BE=C8=B3=E7=C7=CF=BC=BC=BF=E4!. x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: disk partition problem
Whoa - I'm out of touch. Is there a FAT32 capable fips? Tell me where. Richard P.S. Please http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing large packages from DOS formatted diskette
Hi, I am a newbie to Debian. Recently I installed Debian 1.3 on my PC from diskettes. It is working fine. However I downloaded some Debain packages which are larger than 1.44M (diskette size). How can I install these packages? I have DOS/Windows tools like pkzip, arj, gzip but I am not sure how to decompress it to a Linux partition on my hard disk. My guess is that I need a DOS partition but I couldn't create one using the Rescue Disk. BTW, which type of DOS partition do I create? FAT12, FAT16, etc.. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Chee Seng ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to make kernel release socket..
I try to implement server program for specific purpose. If the server is killed, I found that the server can't binding again the socket for about 1 min. How to make kernel release socket, instantaneously, when the process killed? In addition, when the client is died without closing socket, I found that the server receive SIGPIPE and then server died.. How can we make the server ignore the SIGPIPE signal... First, could you please avoid MIME messages to the list? Please... Second, I guess you need some book on networking and UNIX system calls. Killing the server means sending some signal to the process, like SIGINT. To shut server cleanly, you have to close() socket before exit(). Use signal() to create a handler for a specific signal for that. AS for the server dying on client closing the connection, I guess this is more then acceptable behavior. (you are doing fork() upon accepting a connection, don't you? in this case only child serving the connection will die). Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, When I install Debian packages (from diskette) using dselect, I am asked for the packages.gz. Where can I get this file? Best Regards, Chee Seng ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing large packages from DOS formatted diskette
Hi, I am a newbie to Debian. Recently I installed Debian 1.3 on my PC from diskettes. It is working fine. However I downloaded some Debain packages which are larger than 1.44M (diskette size). How can I install these packages? I have DOS/Windows tools like pkzip, arj, gzip but I am not sure how to decompress it to a Linux partition on my hard disk. My guess is that I need a DOS partition but I couldn't create one using the Rescue Disk. BTW, which type of DOS partition do I create? FAT12, FAT16, etc.. You don't need to make a DOS partition (who needs it anyway). Here's two ways I handle this. 1. The file is downloaded to you're debian machine or another *nix machine. I use 'split' and 'cat'. Split takes a number as an argument that determines the size of the split-up files. I've found between 4000 and 5000 gives a bit over 1M size files. You can then save these on multiple disks, copy them to your Debian system and then cat them back together. For example: split -4500 package.deb (this makes files xa*, xb*, ..) cat xa* xb* package.deb 2. The file is downloaded to a DOS based machine. PKZIP them across multiple disks. Each disk has the same name file, so cp them into a directory on your system with different names (make sure to keep things in order - name them part1, part2, etc). Now cat these together into a package.zip. There is an unzip for *nix systems (sorry, don't remember where I got mine) that can unzip PKZIP files. Unzip package.zip and you should have you're package.deb. I haven't had to use two for a while, but I use one all the time cause I have a small harddrive, so I keep all the packages I download on floppies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WINS - DNS [OT?]
This might not be a Debian specific question. In that case, please accept my apology. Is it possible for a Linux box running a DNS server to query a WINS server running on a NT box? Can I have the Linux DNS serving non WINS klients and still get the same name-resolving? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lilo and boot messages
Is there any way to get lilo to show a boot message after it prints LILO WITHOUT someone pressing a key? I have it currently configured to show a boot menu when you hit shift, but for novice users that's a little difficult to explain ... Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lsof -i
Hello Torsten! First of all, thanks for your reply! On 1 Apr 1998, Torsten Hilbrich wrote: Ulisses Alonso Camaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have build lsof for my system using the Debian, that is: dpkg-source -x lsof*something*.dsc cd lsof-something* dpkg-buildpackage Everithing seems Ok in the package building And Installed the packages. Nor the bo nor hamm versions show me the the Internet files/iNet sockets? Why? I had the same problems with the bo version of lsof. I installed lsof 4.26-1 from hamm and everything works fine now. What version out of hamm did you try? lsof_4.28-1.dsc :-( Regards, Ulisses -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MetroX
Hi all, I would like to use MetroX instead of XFree86 and I was wondering how I should install it, it comes as an rpm, do I use the Alien Package or is there another way? I noticed a MetroX deb file in the contrib (i think) directory, and I was wondering what this was, as it can't be the server as it is to small? If alien is used then will it create all the symlinks that are needed or will I have to do them manually? Regards Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing large packages from DOS formatted diskette
Hi, I am a newbie to Debian. Recently I installed Debian 1.3 on my PC from diskettes. It is working fine. However I downloaded some Debain packages which are larger than 1.44M (diskette size). How can I install these packages? I have DOS/Windows tools like pkzip, arj, gzip but I am not sure how to decompress it to a Linux partition on my hard disk. My guess is that I need a DOS partition but I couldn't create one using the Rescue Disk. BTW, which type of DOS partition do I create? FAT12, FAT16, etc.. You don't need to make a DOS partition (who needs it anyway). Here's two ways I handle this. 1. The file is downloaded to you're debian machine or another *nix machine. I use 'split' and 'cat'. Split takes a number as an argument that determines the size of the split-up files. I've found between 4000 and 5000 gives a bit over 1M size files. You can then save these on multiple disks, copy them to your Debian system and then cat them back together. If you use `split -b 1423k package.deb package.' (include that final period) it will make files that fit exactly on one FAT formatted high density floppy, and it will name the output files package.aa package.ab etc. [ snip ] 2. The file is downloaded to a DOS based machine. PKZIP them across multiple disks. Each disk has the same name file, so cp them into a directory on your system with different names (make sure to keep things in order - name them part1, part2, etc). Now cat these together into a package.zip. There is an unzip for *nix systems (sorry, don't remember where I got mine) that can unzip PKZIP files. Unzip package.zip and you should have you're package.deb. If all you are doing is installing a single package, it is more convenient to use dpkg instead of dselect: dpkg --install package.deb You don't need a package file for that. The disadvantage of dpkg is that it will not automatically select other packages that maybe need to be installed first. It will however tell you what other packages are needed. You should then install these packages first (with dpkg or dselect) and then install the desired package again. There is no problem if you install a package twice. Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk partition problem
On Sun, 03 May 1998 20:39:11 -0500 rehawynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (and I quoted): rehawynn Hello. rehawynn rehawynn I have been reading about Debian, and I am eager to try it out. rehawynn However, I seem to have a problem that I have not found an answer for rehawynn yet, even after searching through all of the FAQ's and help documents I rehawynn could find. The problem is with partitioning my hard disk. I DO NOT rehawynn want to wipe it out (like using fdisk), so instead I tried FIPS (found rehawynn on the Linux CD). First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried rehawynn to run fips. Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard rehawynn disk. So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files rehawynn that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine. And rehawynn that's where I'm stuck. Please help me or tell me where I can get help rehawynn so I can free myself from the tyranny of Windows!! rehawynn Chris, You might want to run disk defragmenter BEFORE partitioning your drive. Norton speed disk or even defrag.exe from winblows will do the job for you just fine :) Good luck - Arunas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo and boot messages
Will Lowe wrote: Is there any way to get lilo to show a boot message after it prints LILO WITHOUT someone pressing a key? I have it currently configured to show a boot menu when you hit shift, but for novice users that's a little difficult to explain ... From /usr/doc/lilo/manual.txt: Global options - - - - - - - ... PROMPT forces entering the boot prompt without expecting any prior key-presses. Unattended reboots are impossible if PROMPT is set and TIMEOUT isn't. ... TIMEOUT=tsecs sets a timeout (in tenths of a second) for keyboard input. If no key is pressed for the specified time, the first image is automatically booted. Similarly, password input is aborted if the user is idle for too long. The default timeout is infinite. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk partition problem
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:40:53 +0300 (EET DST) Arunas Norvaisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (and I quoted): arunas Chris, arunas arunas You might want to run disk defragmenter BEFORE partitioning your drive. arunas Norton speed disk or even defrag.exe from winblows will do the job for arunas you just fine :) Sorry guys... Wasn't reading very carefully what Chris wrote... He defragged the drive... My suggestion was too obvious and too quick to type... Sorry again. Arunas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo and boot messages
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Will Lowe wrote: Is there any way to get lilo to show a boot message after it prints LILO WITHOUT someone pressing a key? I have it currently configured to show a boot menu when you hit shift, but for novice users that's a little difficult to explain ... In your /etc/lilo.conf, put a line called: prompt regards, == == Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated == == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 == = == ==== == E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] == WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MetroX
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote: I would like to use MetroX instead of XFree86 and I was wondering how I should install it, it comes as an rpm, do I use the Alien Package or is there another way? I noticed a MetroX deb file in the contrib (i think) directory, and I was wondering what this was, as it can't be the server as it is to small? If alien is used then will it create all the symlinks that are needed or will I have to do them manually? Hmm IMHO XFree86 *is* faster than metrox on my current S3Virge. Comments anyone? regards, == == Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated == == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 == = == ==== == E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] == WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Banco de Dados
On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 02:42:49PM -0300, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: I'm afraid about PostGreeSQL because it's not 100% ANSI SQL. We'll run third part apps that will expect to find a 100% compatible DB w/ transactions. PostgreSQL is as close to ANSI SQL 92 as you can get, and it is still improving. Even though it may not be 100%, I would say it is at least 99.9%. Try it out before judging it. Afterall, it is *free*. :-) They recomend (obvius) Oracle 8. But it's no so cheap. And I've heard that the version for SCO runs SLOW. SCO version can run as well on Linux packages. Can I substitue the MS SQL Server by PostGreeSQl without re-writing code? MS SQL Server [Anthony fainted...] Please try out PostgreSQL first. It is full-featured and support transactions, etc. You could also try MySQL, which is very fast, but lacks some functionality in PostgreSQL. PostgreSQL rivals Oracle 8 and MS SQL Server in functionality. It is a professional RDBMS. Go visit http://www.postgresql.org/. Read the site. Subscribe to their mailing list. Ask questions. I'm sure there are lots of gurus there happy to help you in your decision. Cheers, Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://olvc.home.ml.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
utmp hosed
Hi, I've got hamm system running now, and utmp seems to be completely screwed up. I've already done this: cd /var/log mv wtmp wtmp.libc5 touch wtmp cd /var/run cp /dev/null utmp and rebooted, but it's still broken. can anyone tell me where to look for clues? (This was never quite a bo system, except for the base installation... I booted and installed the base from bo boot disks, and then went straight to hamm) -brad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
POP3
Hi everybody, I have small problem : I want to get mail from my pop3 account - it's easy. But how can I select which mails can get and which leave ( e.g. specified size or unwanted sender ), ( Or Can fetchmail check number of messages and header of theese messages ?) -- Martin Madlik [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Banco de Dados
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Anthony Fok wrote: I'm afraid about PostGreeSQL because it's not 100% ANSI SQL. We'll run PostgreSQL is as close to ANSI SQL 92 as you can get, and it is still You might want to check out mySQL too. I do not know of its functionality but I've heard some good things. I think they have a web server on www.mysql.org. // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xmgr statically linked against motif?
Hi folks! I noticed that some packages like xmgr are dynamical linked against lesstif. Work isn't very easy with xmgr and lesstif, it's not much stable and it's buggy i think. So is it possible to make such packages statically linked against motif (like ddd-static). I would recompile it, but i do not have motif. Thanks, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Banco de Dados
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Jonas Bofjall wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Anthony Fok wrote: I'm afraid about PostGreeSQL because it's not 100% ANSI SQL. We'll run PostgreSQL is as close to ANSI SQL 92 as you can get, and it is still You might want to check out mySQL too. I do not know of its functionality but I've heard some good things. I think they have a web server on www.mysql.org. Mysql is www.tcx.se. As I understand the essential difference is as follows: PostgreSQL is a genuine attempt to produce an SQL/92 RDBMS. [Some would say misguided]. MySQL doesn't try very hard to be SQL92 conformant, but is *very* fast indeed. It doesn't do transactions (but has a custom locking syntax which is faster), but does fast joins.. YMMV. Go read about them ;)_ Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL's spam policy
Hi, I forwarded [EMAIL PROTECTED] some of the spam the list has been getting. I thought that posting what AOL has to say about spam might be interesting. They also mention spam from Compuserve since AOL recently acquired Compuserve. The following is an excerpt from an automated response from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - A NOTE ABOUT JUNK E-MAIL A great deal of the junk e-mail reported is forged and, in fact, does not originate at aol.com. In many cases you can use the full headers (including the Received: lines) to discern its true origin. If e-mail headers have not been tampered with, the last Received: header line will usually tell you the domain from which the junk e-mail originated. For future reference: Valid AOL address can not: -be shorter than 3 or longer than 10 characters -begin with numerals -contain periods, underscores, dashes or other punctuation characters Valid AOL mail will have a short, verifiable Received path directly from a resolvable host within AOL.COM to your mail host. AOL does not condone mass e-mailing. We are working closely with our legal and security departments to step up our efforts in combating junk e-mail. This includes deploying new technological solutions, and adopting a more aggressive legal posture. REPORTING INCIDENTS OF INTERNET OR USENET ABUSE If you are writing to report abuse of the Usenet or Internet, please send future reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] When reporting junk or abusive e-mail or Usenet posts by America Online Members, please forward both the full text of the message and the full header information. This helps us understand the context of the message. It also assures all parties concerned that we are taking action against the correct account as a great deal of the junk e-mail we see is forged. COMPUSERVE: As you may have heard, America Online, Inc has recently puchased Compuserve. Please continue to forward reports of Compuserve member abuse to [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL should not be copied on these reports at this time. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
grep broken?
I just updated last to the latest hamm packages last night and now grep is broken on both of my hamm machines. Has anyone else had this problem? I noticed this problem since the xdm start-up script didn't work. I tracked the problem down to grep. Thanks, -Ossama __ Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- PGP Keys --- Public: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_PUBLIC.asc REVOKED: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_REVOKED.asc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOL's spam policy
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: Hi, I forwarded [EMAIL PROTECTED] some of the spam the list has been getting. I thought that posting what AOL has to say about spam might be interesting. They also mention spam from Compuserve since AOL recently acquired Compuserve. The following is an excerpt from an automated response from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [policy chopped - go read original] Yes. I have read that. I have forwarded, with full headers, every spam I've seen on this list in the last week to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have just received a cordial reply from one of AOL's overworked postmasters saying that they appreciate the report and have taken 'appropriate action'. This is the best response, IMHO. Forward every spam you get to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always include full headers. If AOL receive several reports of the same user, they *will* cancel his account. It quickly becomes quite hard work for the spammers to operate. And any genuine AOL debian enthusiasts are welcome to lurk here until they get the new hard-disk they're waiting for to dump Win95 ;) Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grep broken?
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: I just updated last to the latest hamm packages last night and now grep is broken on both of my hamm machines. Has anyone else had this problem? I noticed this problem since the xdm start-up script didn't work. I tracked the problem down to grep. Thanks, -Ossama Yes. It is a reported bug. If you are using hamm, you would be advised to subscribe to debian-devel. The new version has already been uploaded to master - expect it on ftp.debian.org later today. Yours, Jules Bean /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pstree in fvwm* menus
Hi, Since pstree exits as soon as it has printed the process tree, is there any point to having fvwm* start up an xterm that will close very soon after it is opened? For example, I can never see the outout of pstree when running it from the fvwm* menus since the xterm it opens up just closes too fast. I guess this wouldn't be an issue if pstree would persistently track processes like top does. I'm just nitpicking. This really isn't a big deal. :) -Ossama __ Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- PGP Keys --- Public: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_PUBLIC.asc REVOKED: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_REVOKED.asc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pstree in fvwm* menus
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: Since pstree exits as soon as it has printed the process tree, is there any point to having fvwm* start up an xterm that will close very soon after it is opened? For example, I can never see the outout of pstree when running it from the fvwm* menus since the xterm it opens up just closes too fast. I guess this wouldn't be an issue if pstree would persistently track processes like top does. I have pstree pipe into less. This keeps the xterm up as long as you like. -- Jean Pierre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RFD) New list proposal - debian-unstable@lists.debian.org
Hi! Currently it seems to me that debian-devel is serving two unrelated purposes. On the one hand it is a forum for developers to pick each others brains, and ask opinions of interested debian users. On the other hand, it also serves to monitor the status of the frozen and unstable distributions. I suggest a new list for this second purpose - tracking bugs and problems with the unstable (or, currently, frozen) release. Things like 'package X has broken, or is it just me?'. Like the recent grep problem, which caused me to post this (and also the xlib6 thing of a week ago, which caused me to subscribe myself to devel in the first place). Thoughts? Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pstree in fvwm* menus
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: Since pstree exits as soon as it has printed the process tree, is there any point to having fvwm* start up an xterm that will close very soon after it is opened? For example, I can never see the outout of pstree when running it from the fvwm* menus since the xterm it opens up just closes too fast. I guess this wouldn't be an issue if pstree would persistently track processes like top does. I'd suggest to run `watch -n 10 pstree' in the xterm... Greg -- Madarasz Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: xmgr statically linked against motif?
On 03-Apr-98 Jens Lisner wrote: Hi folks! I noticed that some packages like xmgr are dynamical linked against lesstif. Work isn't very easy with xmgr and lesstif, it's not much stable and it's buggy i think. So is it possible to make such packages statically linked against motif (like ddd-static). I would recompile it, but i do not have motif. Well, the bigger problem that xmgr has is that with the new lesstif (0.82) it take ages to display the gadgets. I don't know why. For the statically linked version look directly for the binary distribution. Search for it in ftpsearch. If you don't find it I'll give some addresses. But yes, it would be a good thing to have a debain package with the static version. Regards, -- Cesar Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laboratorio de Bajas Temperaturas Universidad Autonoma de Madrid Beggars should be no choosers. -- John Heywood -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing a process to have a new controlling terminal
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First open /dev/tty. Then do an TIOCNOTTY ioctl on the file. This will make it so your process no longer has a controling terminal. Then simply open a terminal-type device. Argh, that's the old BSD way of doing things... this will work better: close(0); close(1); close(2); setsid(); ... open new tty here ... Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | Our vision is to speed up time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | eventually eliminating it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pstree in fvwm* menus
Hi Greg, I'd suggest to run `watch -n 10 pstree' in the xterm... I like that solution! I didn't know about the watch command. However, it is possible that the pstree will be longer then the number of lines in an xterm of default size (24 lines). What then? We can always increase the size of the xterm but that wouldn't be a solution since there is still the potential to overrun the number of lines in the xterm if there are many processes. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Correct directory permissions list?
Hi all, Somehow several directories on my 1.3.1 system have had their permissions changed. So far I have found /tmp and /var/spool. Is there some list somewhere that lists all the default permissions of these directories? Maybe a file in /etc or something? I think it happened when I tried to use the netscape4 package to upgrade netscape 4.04 to 4.05 and it crapped out. Thanks, Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to make kernel release socket..
You probably want to read about setsockopt. In particular, the SO_REUSEADDR function. Install a signal handler to catch the SIGPIPE and do what you want. See sigaction and other signal man pages. jim -- From: Won-Ho Kye[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 11:34 PM To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Cc: The recipient's address is unknown. Subject:How to make kernel release socket.. File: vcard.vcf Hi Firends ! I try to implement server program for specific purpose. If the server is killed, I found that the server can't binding again the socket for about 1 min. How to make kernel release socket, instantaneously, when the process killed? In addition, when the client is died without closing socket, I found that the server receive SIGPIPE and then server died.. How can we make the server ignore the SIGPIPE signal... Thanks for any helps whkye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/etc/cron.deny ?
Hi, is there a way to deny users to run cron jobs? Thanks, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/cron.deny ?
Hi, is there a way to deny users to run cron jobs? man crontab The files are /var/spool/cron/allow /var/spool/cron/deny Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pstree in fvwm* menus
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: Hi Greg, I'd suggest to run `watch -n 10 pstree' in the xterm... I like that solution! I didn't know about the watch command. However, it is possible that the pstree will be longer then the number of lines in an xterm of default size (24 lines). What then? We can always increase the size of the xterm but that wouldn't be a solution since there is still the potential to overrun the number of lines in the xterm if there are many processes. Watch cuts off the tail of the display if it is longer than the screen. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xmgr statically linked against motif?
On 03-Apr-98 Jens Lisner wrote: Hi folks! I noticed that some packages like xmgr are dynamical linked against lesstif. Work isn't very easy with xmgr and lesstif, it's not much stable and it's buggy i think. So is it possible to make such packages statically linked against motif (like ddd-static). I would recompile it, but i do not have motif. Well, the bigger problem that xmgr has is that with the new lesstif (0.82) it take ages to display the gadgets. I don't know why. For the statically linked version look directly for the binary distribution. Search for it in ftpsearch. If you don't find it I'll give some addresses. xmgr home is currently: http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Xmgr/ the current version (4.1.1 I think) runs fine on my (still bo) installation But yes, it would be a good thing to have a debain package with the static version. Yep. -Chris -- || | Christopher D. Judd | | NYS Dept. of Health [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Wadsworth Center - ESP | | P.O. Box 509 518 486-7829 | | Albany, NY 12201-0509| || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8bpp?
Yo- How to I get xdm to start with 16bpp or 24bpp? It is currently starting in 8bpp so AfterStep looks terrible. Thanks in advance! -Ian _ Ian K. Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] H: 940.566.0461 Pgr: 817.901.0255 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 8bpp?
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- How to I get xdm to start with 16bpp or 24bpp? It is currently starting in 8bpp so AfterStep looks terrible. Best method, probably, is to go into your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, go down to the section in your XF86Config that looks like this: Section Screen Driver svga # Use Device Generic VGA for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device Generic VGA Device S3 ViRGE/DX (generic) Monitor My Monitor DefaultColorDepth 24 and add the DefaultColorDepth line. You need to pick the right screen section - this one is if you are using the svga server. There is another for xaccel, and another for vga16, etc... Alternatively, you could start X as startx -- -bpp 24, but you're using xdm, so that's not ideal. You could probably edit the first line of /etc/X11/Xserver to have -bpp 24 on the end, but that sounds ugly to me.. Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WINS - DNS [OT?]
It is possible. In fact, I can email you a program which will do it right now. The newer versions of Samba will also support this. But what you probably want is for everyday program to be able to use WINS for name lookups. Programs generally use the c library call gethostbyname for this purpose. So, you'd have to add some code to this library to do it or perhaps add a LD_PRELOAD'd library. You could also do it by running a fake dns server which really did WINS lookups. This actually wouldn't be that hard since WINS actually uses the same packet format as DNS (just with different values and flags). This is actually something I've wanted to do for a long time but who has the time? I'm not sure what you mean by Can I have the Linux DNS serving non WINS clients and still get the same name-resolving? Johan Berglund wrote: This might not be a Debian specific question. In that case, please accept my apology. Is it possible for a Linux box running a DNS server to query a WINS server running on a NT box? Can I have the Linux DNS serving non WINS klients and still get the same name-resolving? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3
Martin, You probably want to use IMAP instead of POP for this. Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin Madlik wrote: Hi everybody, I have small problem : I want to get mail from my pop3 account - it's easy. But how can I select which mails can get and which leave ( e.g. specified size or unwanted sender ), ( Or Can fetchmail check number of messages and header of theese messages ?) -- Martin Madlik [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing a process to have a new controlling terminal
Yes. Bravo. I graciously defer to this more modern method. Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First open /dev/tty. Then do an TIOCNOTTY ioctl on the file. This will make it so your process no longer has a controling terminal. Then simply open a terminal-type device. Argh, that's the old BSD way of doing things... this will work better: close(0); close(1); close(2); setsid(); . open new tty here ... Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | Our vision is to speed up time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | eventually eliminating it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
still missing package
I wrote about a month ago saying that the package emacs19 was missing, and someone (I lost his message, sorry) told me it eould be included for the frozen version, but it's still not there. What happens? Won't we have emacs19? -- Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella Product Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.conexware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
missing features in new mozilla
grr. THey're still gone. In 4.0, the alt-number sequence to go back pages disappeared. ANd the autoload images was moved from the menus to a dialog. And they're still this way in the 5.0--though it seems to start faster than 3.0. does anybody know of any hidden options or anything to get them back? or do I need to hunt down files to remove so I can reinstall 3.0? rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-Free Software
manoj wrote, I certainly would prefer the Debian project itself not pass these judgements on non-free packages unless we had legal advice. speaking hypothetically, as my law licenses are inactive to avoid the $800 a year in fees while i spend time as a graduate student, and am probably not licensed in the state in which debian is incorporated, and a bunch of other standard disclaimers: If an organization were to come to me, and ask about it or an affiliate, or a person, making decisions on copyrights of software packages, I'd have a couple of general observations: 1) deciding whether or not the legal restrictions in a copyright allow distribution, when that distribution is to be made by another person or entity, probably constitutes the practice of law, which would open a can of worms for any non-lawyer doing it. 2) the person doing this, as well as any distributors, could face copyright infringment actgion if they decide wrong. acting in good faith with reasoned legal advice would affect damages, not liability. 3) the persons making the decision, and those distributing, should have insurance. rick, esq. -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft buys TeX! Knuth sells out! (fwd)
Isn't it bad luck to send out april fool's jokes after 12? no, just dangerous, as the internet was formally shut down at the time. :) -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
those big non-standard mail fiels
jules notices the topic drifiting His 1-page note was sent as a 1MB Word document filling up 5% of everyone's mailbox, using up a lot of ressources to send in 200 copies! An amusing story. I'm doubtful though... I've written long essays and papers which aren't 1MB even in MS Word.. real easy to happen. A friend of mine and the secretary saved a file yesterday morning, about a 5 page paper. Well, they tried to. THey had the old file, pasted in a graph from excel, and they couldn't save to floppy. Turned out that in whatever it defaulted to, the pasted picture was well over a meg . . . -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: missing features in new mozilla
does anybody know of any hidden options or anything to get them back? or do I need to hunt down files to remove so I can reinstall 3.0? There's no reason you couldn't hack them in yourself. That's one of the beauties of open source--if it doesn't have a feature you want, you can write it yourself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: missing features in new mozilla
ben wrote, does anybody know of any hidden options or anything to get them back? or do I need to hunt down files to remove so I can reinstall 3.0? There's no reason you couldn't hack them in yourself. That's one of the beauties of open source--if it doesn't have a feature you want, you can write it yourself. It's on my long term list :) but i don't even have time to recode the program that operates my dissertation write now, and my c c++ are woefully out of date. And there's some routines macros that I want to add to Lyx that need to be done first. rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 8bpp?
Jules Bean wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- How to I get xdm to start with 16bpp or 24bpp? It is currently starting in 8bpp so AfterStep looks terrible. Best method, probably, is to go into your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, go down to the section in your XF86Config that looks like this: Section Screen Driver svga # Use Device Generic VGA for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device Generic VGA Device S3 ViRGE/DX (generic) Monitor My Monitor DefaultColorDepth 24 and add the DefaultColorDepth line. You need to pick the right screen section - this one is if you are using the svga server. There is another for xaccel, and another for vga16, etc... Alternatively, you could start X as startx -- -bpp 24, but you're using xdm, so that's not ideal. You could probably edit the first line of /etc/X11/Xserver to have -bpp 24 on the end, but that sounds ugly to me.. no more ugly than editing the XF86Config file. you can put this line in your /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file, Ian: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 24 m* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk partition problem
The problem is with partitioning my hard disk. I DO NOT want to wipe it out (like using fdisk), so instead I tried FIPS (found on the Linux CD). First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried to run fips. Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard disk. So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine. And that's where I'm stuck. Please help me or tell me where I can get help so I can free myself from the tyranny of Windows!! If your comment but it wasn't true on my machine means that you do not see any files near the end of the HD after defrag had run, I am equally mystified. Else please read the following. Defrag will not touch 'immovable' files. Such are hidden DOS system files like io.sys or some files used by doublespace, 'dir /a' will list those as well. Study the schematic picture of your HD while defrag is working, if files marked by X are left near the end then you will have to manually displace them. The operation is not without danger, but you should weigh that against the benefits of a successful repartitioning. % Geza Gyorgyi % Institute for Theoretical Physics, Eotvos University % Budapest, Puskin u. 5-7, 1088, Hungary % e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % phone/fax: (int'l access code + 36 1) 266-7924/266-0612 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: those big non-standard mail fiels
I'm sorry, I tried not to comment but I couldn't help it. I received a Functional Design Spec for a project as a self extracting archive (.exe). I ran it and it turned into a word document (office 97 version) of a bit over 16Mb. I sent that to a small group of folks for review and it blew the 20Meg limit for almost everybody... This doc is about 40 pages (plus or minus a page or two) and it has about 10 screen dumps in it. The exe file was about 600k... jim -- From: Richard E. Hawkins Esq.[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 12:31 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: The recipient's address is unknown. Subject:those big non-standard mail fiels jules notices the topic drifiting His 1-page note was sent as a 1MB Word document filling up 5% of everyone's mailbox, using up a lot of ressources to send in 200 copies! An amusing story. I'm doubtful though... I've written long essays and papers which aren't 1MB even in MS Word.. real easy to happen. A friend of mine and the secretary saved a file yesterday morning, about a 5 page paper. Well, they tried to. THey had the old file, pasted in a graph from excel, and they couldn't save to floppy. Turned out that in whatever it defaulted to, the pasted picture was well over a meg . . . -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Banco de Dados
[Initial message wasn't sent to debian-users, but I am quoting it in full, and annotating it]. On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: The problem with mySQL is you can't do transactions (rollback if something went wrong...)... It's not for our busines... Obviously you understand your companies business best, and transactions, if you are used to them, are reassuring. MySQL has an SQL-extension 'LOCK TABLES' which in fact gives you much finer control over concurrency issues, without the overhead of transactions. The incial option is Oracle. But I've heard that it doesn't work fine in SCO unix (wich is the version that can be ported for Linux). I'm trying to setup a database server and a file server in the same machine (not a expensive one). My boss want Oracle + NT... ANd I'm trying to change his mind. Oracle is incredibly expensive. For that reason, unfortunately, I've never used it... I'm looking for any other OS that can run a goog DB Server, and run in a cheap machine (like an i386 PII 300). I'm looking a DB server that can be at least as the same as the Microsoft SQL Server. I would hardly think of MS SQL as a goal! In my experience, it's appalling - apart from anything else, it crashes about once a day, under load. Does someone experienced running Oracle on Linux? What about Informix? I know that the on-line support for the freware are better than any other... But Oracle they can pay for courses... consultants... and have someone to call (and come in) if something crash. Sorry, I don't. Maybe someone else? Okay... Let's try... Who is using PostGrees for Commercial applications? Who is running Oracle or Informix in a Linux BOX? I can download and test PostGreeSQL... but you know boss. They need the commom sense. What everyone uses is What I see ;) TIA Leonardo Ruoso Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | War doesn't demonstrate who's right... just who's left. | | When privacy is outlawed... only the outlaws have privacy. | \--/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with too much memory
Recently we have been build a number of Debian proxy servers with lots of memory. We are using an Asus P2L97 Motherboard, PII 300 and three 128MB SDRAM DIMM modules. We have almost a hundred PII 233's on the same motherboard, but with only one 128MB DIMM. In a majority of the systems we have built we 3 DIMM's, we a getting weird and unexplainable (to us anyway) errors that seem to be associated with memory. Here is one such example that happened when we were trying to send some files of several megs in size. whoops:unlock_buffer:b_count !=1onasyncio. whoops:unlock_buffer:b_count !=1onasyncio. kernel panic: freelist corrupted ll_rw_block:trying to read nonexistant block device 0c:02 (1481927) ll_rw_block:trying to read nonexistant block device 0c:02 (1481927) ll_rw_block:trying to read nonexistant block device 0c:02 (1481927) ll_rw_block:trying to read nonexistant block device 0c:02 (1481927) wait_que is bad (eip=001285cb) q=0fffabcc *q=0400 wait_que is bad (eip=001285cb) q=0fffa94c *q=0400 wait_que is bad (eip=001285cb) q=0fffa14c *q=0400 On first look, it seems as though something is wrong with the disk, and in this case it may be, but the frequency with which these strange problems occur in servers with multiple DIMM's is suspect. Other times there will be some sort of core dump and a kernel panic. Often times the kernel panic does not freeze the box up, but it will not really do anything else until it is rebooted. Anyone heard anything at all? Timm Gleason Hardware Engineer -- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams -- Timm Gleason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://n2h2.com/ N2H2, Creators of Bess -- 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1501--Seattle, WA 98101 -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: missing features in new mozilla
I would think that there's a fix you could do with your Xresources which could handle this. (Not to say I know exactly what.) Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: ben wrote, does anybody know of any hidden options or anything to get them back? or do I need to hunt down files to remove so I can reinstall 3.0? There's no reason you couldn't hack them in yourself. That's one of the beauties of open source--if it doesn't have a feature you want, you can write it yourself. It's on my long term list :) but i don't even have time to recode the program that operates my dissertation write now, and my c c++ are woefully out of date. And there's some routines macros that I want to add to Lyx that need to be done first. rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: URGENT: Problems with bash_2.01.1-1_i386.deb pkg.
May be I didn't tell what I want to say about transactions. I will use third part applications that uses transaction. I can't change this. Yaeah! I'm so interested in use a free and stable database server. I'll try it however it need support transactions. Is the FreeBSD more stable than Linux? I now that the Red Hat comunity agree that. Does the Debian Comunity agree? TIA Leonardo Ruoso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with too much memory
Recently we have been build a number of Debian proxy servers with lots of memory. We are using an Asus P2L97 Motherboard, PII 300 and three 128MB SDRAM DIMM modules. We have almost a hundred PII 233's on the same motherboard, but with only one 128MB DIMM. In a majority of the systems we have built we 3 DIMM's, we a getting weird and unexplainable (to us anyway) errors that seem to be associated with memory. Here is one such example that happened when we were trying to send some files of several megs in size. Do errors persist if you set append=mem=128M in the LILO? Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOL's spam policy
On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 02:16:58PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: Hi, I forwarded [EMAIL PROTECTED] some of the spam the list has been getting. I thought that posting what AOL has to say about spam might be interesting. They also mention spam from Compuserve since AOL recently acquired Compuserve. The following is an excerpt from an automated response from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [policy chopped - go read original] Yes. I have read that. Did you really? I have forwarded, with full headers, every spam I've seen on this list in the last week to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have just received a cordial reply from one of AOL's overworked postmasters saying that they appreciate the report and have taken 'appropriate action'. This is the best response, IMHO. Forward every spam you get to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always include full headers. If AOL receive several reports of the same user, they *will* cancel his account. It quickly becomes quite hard work for the spammers to operate. You didn't read the policy of AOL --- they will close the account if *one* spam occures to them. There is no need for every Debian user to mail the same spam to them, please leave it to the Debian Team to take appropriate action. The mail you receive from the list mailer is useless for AOL, as they can't verify the origin of the spam, because the list mailer places a new header on the mail. And even if you would have the full header, you could easily verify that most spam mails aren't really from AOL, but from elsewhere. It is easy to forge a header so that it pretends to come from somewhere else. You beat the wrong people in these cases. The only people who can take action are the people that have access to the debian list system, as they can verify the header on the original mail. You can notice them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hope this is right. Get this from the top of my head). And any genuine AOL debian enthusiasts are welcome to lurk here until they get the new hard-disk they're waiting for to dump Win95 ;) Those statements aren't really helping. They have the same rights as you and me. Don't believe everything you see. Many people have been victims of spammers, that forged millions of headers pretending that the spam comes from one people they want to hurt. It is no fun. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MetroX
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote: I would like to use MetroX instead of XFree86 and I was wondering how I should install it, it comes as an rpm, do I use the Alien Package or is there another way? I noticed a MetroX deb file in the contrib (i think) directory, and I was wondering what this was, as it can't be the server as it is to small? If alien is used then will it create all the symlinks that are needed or will I have to do them manually? Hmm IMHO XFree86 *is* faster than metrox on my current S3Virge. Comments anyone? It may well be faster for your S3Virge but I have a ATI Mach 64 Graphics Expression (which XFree86 Supports) but I find MetroX faster, I am also upgrading my video card to a Matrox Millenium II 8Mb, and I have been told that the MetroX drive is alote better that the XFree86 one. Graham regards, == == Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated == == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 == = == ==== == E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] == WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with too much memory
Yes they do. Every time we add or remove memory modules we use one of these lines in lilo.conf and rune lilo, then reboot. append=mem=128M append=mem=256M append=mem=384M We have to have the append=mem=128M in our standard PII 233 servers in order to make them use all of the memory and we see no problems with them. It seems as though we only have these problems when we have more than one module installed. Timm Gleason -Original Message- From: Alex Yukhimets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Yukhimets Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 9:51 AM To: Timm Gleason Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Problems with too much memory Recently we have been build a number of Debian proxy servers with lots of memory. We are using an Asus P2L97 Motherboard, PII 300 and three 128MB SDRAM DIMM modules. We have almost a hundred PII 233's on the same motherboard, but with only one 128MB DIMM. In a majority of the systems we have built we 3 DIMM's, we a getting weird and unexplainable (to us anyway) errors that seem to be associated with memory. Here is one such example that happened when we were trying to send some files of several megs in size. Do errors persist if you set append=mem=128M in the LILO? Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk partition problem
my 2 cents: If you run under dos the command dir /v/s or dir *.* /v/s it will return a list of all file on the default disk starting from the default directory; and this output will include the file attributes. If you where to pipe the output to a file you could then edit it as a command file to change the file attributes, perform the defrag, and then edit the file once again to restore the original attributes. There may be some side effect from doing this: but I haven't hear of any - not for some time. Geza Gyorgyi wrote: The problem is with partitioning my hard disk. I DO NOT want to wipe it out (like using fdisk), so instead I tried FIPS (found on the Linux CD). First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried to run fips. Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard disk. So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine. And that's where I'm stuck. Please help me or tell me where I can get help so I can free myself from the tyranny of Windows!! If your comment but it wasn't true on my machine means that you do not see any files near the end of the HD after defrag had run, I am equally mystified. Else please read the following. Defrag will not touch 'immovable' files. Such are hidden DOS system files like io.sys or some files used by doublespace, 'dir /a' will list those as well. Study the schematic picture of your HD while defrag is working, if files marked by X are left near the end then you will have to manually displace them. The operation is not without danger, but you should weigh that against the benefits of a successful repartitioning. % Geza Gyorgyi % Institute for Theoretical Physics, Eotvos University % Budapest, Puskin u. 5-7, 1088, Hungary % e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % phone/fax: (int'l access code + 36 1) 266-7924/266-0612 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk partition problem
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Geza Gyorgyi wrote: The problem is with partitioning my hard disk. I DO NOT want to wipe it out (like using fdisk), so instead I tried FIPS (found on the Linux CD). First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried to run fips. Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard disk. So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine. And that's where I'm stuck. Please help me or tell me where I can get help so I can free myself from the tyranny of Windows!! If your comment but it wasn't true on my machine means that you do not see any files near the end of the HD after defrag had run, I am equally mystified. Else please read the following. Defrag will not touch 'immovable' files. Such are hidden DOS system files like io.sys or some files used by doublespace, 'dir /a' will list those as well. Study the schematic picture of your HD while defrag is working, if files marked by X are left near the end then you will have to manually displace them. The operation is not without danger, but you should weigh that against the benefits of a successful repartitioning. What I did, which was a bit time-consuming, but worked, was to search for all the hidden/system files before running defrag and changing their attributes. After defragging, I changed them back. You don't need to worry about io.sys or msdos.sys, as they occur at the beginning of the partition. Most likely the files needing change will be in the /windows directory. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with too much memory
Yes they do. Every time we add or remove memory modules we use one of these lines in lilo.conf and rune lilo, then reboot. append=mem=128M append=mem=256M append=mem=384M We have to have the append=mem=128M in our standard PII 233 servers in order to make them use all of the memory and we see no problems with them. It seems as though we only have these problems when we have more than one module installed. Yes, but if you have 3 modules installed, but still use append=mem=128M in lilo, do you have problems? I undersatand, that only one module will actually be used by a kernel in this case. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOL's spam policy
On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 04:07:20PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 02:16:58PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: The mail you receive from the list mailer is useless for AOL, as they can't verify the origin of the spam, because the list mailer places a new header on the mail. The only people who can take action are the people that have access to the debian list system, as they can verify the header on the original mail. I have to follow up here. The above sentences only apply to certain debian lists (bug tracking system), but not to debian-user. Thank you, Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
swapFILE vs swapDISK ??
Hi, I was wondering whether there are any benefits to using a swap partition as opposed to using a swap file. I am running debian 1.3 on a system with relatively low resources (200 megs HD, 12 megs ram), and have it set up to have a 12 meg swap partition. But, today I found out about mkswap and how I can on the fly create a swap file and use that. It seems like this would be pretty useful to me as I can 'dynamically' choose how to allocate my memory / harddrive space. Is there any performance loss to making swapfiles (large ones), as opposed to having a static swap partition? Will it (this may sound silly, but my hard drive is old too ... 1993) increase the wear and tear on my hard drive? Thanks for your help and advise, Nebu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with too much memory
If I leave the modules in the sockets but 'disable' them through lilo.conf the machine still runs, using memtest however, gives calloc errors if I try to tell it to test more memory than is installed through lilo. I might be using memtest incorrectly also, the man page is a bit sparse and I cannot find the source to look through it. I am using 'memtest 33554432 5' for 128MB, 'memtest 67108864 5' for 256, and 'memtest 100663296 5' for 384. Is this right? Timm Gleason -Original Message- From: Alex Yukhimets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Yukhimets Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 10:26 AM To: Timm Gleason Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Problems with too much memory Yes they do. Every time we add or remove memory modules we use one of these lines in lilo.conf and rune lilo, then reboot. append=mem=128M append=mem=256M append=mem=384M We have to have the append=mem=128M in our standard PII 233 servers in order to make them use all of the memory and we see no problems with them. It seems as though we only have these problems when we have more than one module installed. Yes, but if you have 3 modules installed, but still use append=mem=128M in lilo, do you have problems? I undersatand, that only one module will actually be used by a kernel in this case. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-Free Software
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: manoj wrote, I certainly would prefer the Debian project itself not pass these judgements on non-free packages unless we had legal advice. speaking hypothetically, as my law licenses are inactive to avoid the $800 a year in fees while i spend time as a graduate student, and am probably not licensed in the state in which debian is incorporated, and a bunch of other standard disclaimers: close enough to a lawyer for my standardsThen again I generally don't have much use for careing about law at all (other than to believe they are meant to be broken) so my standards are lower than some :) If an organization were to come to me, and ask about it or an affiliate, or a person, making decisions on copyrights of software packages, I'd have a couple of general observations: 1) deciding whether or not the legal restrictions in a copyright allow distribution, when that distribution is to be made by another person or entity, probably constitutes the practice of law, which would open a can of worms for any non-lawyer doing it. Ya knowyou are probably right (as the Mahareeshi HashishYogi said:never argue with your doctor he has inside information) I had though tof that. I said a few days back that I would be willing to work on such an effort to sort out what can and what can't go on a CD (if someone else would like to help...this does seem like a bit much work to do alone) I thought of this: I authored a piece of Win95 shareware last year. to this day I still recive e-mails from people saying is it ok to include this in our sharewar CD? Why not make an effort in this way: a) read the licence...see if it expliciatly allows this type of distribution (ie being put on a CD with a collection of software and sold for profit) b) if not then assume that it is NOT allowed and make an effort to contact teh author ask him if he would allow it and if so to ask him to ammend his copywrite statement to allow it (rather than relying onasimple e-mail yea its ok) I think that most authors of non-free software would allow this as it increaces the exposure of their software and it thus actually good for them. and those that don't...well...they can sit in FTP Server hell for eternity :) also...(side point) didn't somone have to read the copywright to determine if it can even be debian packaged and distributed from debians FTP server in the first place? 2) the person doing this, as well as any distributors, could face copyright infringment actgion if they decide wrong. acting in good faith with reasoned legal advice would affect damages, not liability. The copyright laws in this country are really AFU...but Ive known that for a while 3) the persons making the decision, and those distributing, should have insurance. hmmm insurance...now there is another can of worms entirelyI try to avoid companis that feel the need to actually put into writting that I am not covered from damages due to nuclear fallout, explosions...etc...I mean reallythats akin to This is only a test, had this been an actual emergency your radio would now be melting in your hands as your flesh chars and falls off your body this is only a test ...but...I digress... -Steve rick, esq. -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xmgr statically linked against motif?
stable and it's buggy i think. So is it possible to make such packages statically linked against motif (like ddd-static). I would recompile it, but i do not have motif. Thanks, Jens i've made the xmotif-static package. you can get it by anonymous ftp from caliban.lbl.gov in /pub/debian. i don't use it, so i don't know if it really works. i tried to play with it though, and it seems functional. on a related note, if there are any other packages you would like linked statically against motif, let me know and i will try to make them. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swapFILE vs swapDISK ??
Hi, I was wondering whether there are any benefits to using a swap partition as opposed to using a swap file. I am running debian 1.3 on a system with relatively low resources (200 megs HD, 12 megs ram), and have it set up to have a 12 meg swap partition. But, today I found out about mkswap and how I can on the fly create a swap file and use that. It seems like this would be pretty useful to me as I can 'dynamically' choose how to allocate my memory / harddrive space. Is there any performance loss to making swapfiles (large ones), as opposed to having a static swap partition? Will it (this may sound silly, but my hard drive is old too ... 1993) increase the wear and tear on my hard drive? I use a 486 laptop w/ 8M ram and an 8M swap partition. This total of 16M has really never been a problem unless I run a bunch of heavy things at the same time. I f you're machine already has 12M, you could probably safely decrease your swap partition (8M, maybe 4). I would suggest leaving some sort of swap partition cause you don't always know when the machine wants more. On some occasions when my 16M isn't enough I do also make a swap file to use for that particular job and then get rid of it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xmgr statically linked against motif?
i've made the xmotif-static package. you can get it by anonymous ftp ^^ sorry to follow up on my own post. what i meant to say is that i made the xmgr-smotif package. and one more thing, it depends on libc6, as i have a hamm system. i just saw that the message was posted to debian-user. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poor interaction between chown and quota
Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would solve problem 2, but not problem 1. I have a wonderful workaround for problem 2: NFS mount /var/spool/mail on another server, install qpopper, and change the IP address of pop.jdweb.com. However, this only works if management store staff (which are the same two people) used the correct hostnames in everyone's setup. :) nfs semantics does unpleasant things for a mail spool. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Netscape Communicator and Mail
Hi, Thanks to all that try to help in my problem with ppp and Netscape. Finally I have done what Steve suggested: to remove the '\r' from the ppp.chatscript. It wasn't my idea to put them there, it was just what I have found in some documentation about how to set the ppp. Those guys that are writing things for us, the beginners, should be more careful, I think. So now my ppp is up with pon and down with poff. There are still more things to do, but as I am concerned, this thread is ended. Thanks again to all that gave my suggestions and please forgive me for not expressing these thanks sooner. The last two weeks were awful and I didn't have time for my Debian. Ionutz About the dial tone now. The minicom has no problem to get the dial tone. The pppd on the other hand has. Why ? I have try the , with now use. I still get NO CARRIER while minicom has no problem to get it !!! (The micom makes the modem to bep while the scripts don't). The fact that minicom can talk to your modem is a Good Thing. This means that your modem works under linux. Any other idea ? Yes... First idea: 1. The quick-fix: a. Edit your /etc/ppp.chatscript file and remove the \r from the end of each line. You don't need it there; look at the double ^M in your log: debian# plog -f [snip] Mar 21 10:49:26 debian chat[314]: send (ATF^M^M) [snip] Mar 21 10:49:27 debian chat[314]: ATF^M^M [snip] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOL's spam policy
Hi, same spam to them, please leave it to the Debian Team to take appropriate action. The mail you receive from the list mailer is useless for AOL, as they can't verify the origin of the spam, because the list mailer places a new header on the mail. And even if you would have the full header, you could easily verify that most spam mails aren't really from AOL, but from I understand that, however, I get spam from these AOL spammers from both the list and directly to me. As such, I will forward any spam from AOL sent directly to me to the AOL abuse address, even though the headers may be forged. I don't have the time to go through each and every spam header I get. The abuse team at AOL is payed to do that, aren't they? You beat the wrong people in these cases. Who are we supposed to beat then? :) It is unfortunate that headers are so easy to forge. Hopefully some form of legislation will be passed that will illegalize spam. Anyone know anything about this? I am curious to know what actions if any are being taken. The only people who can take action are the people that have access to the debian list system, as they can verify the header on the original mail. True, but it seems that every spam that is sent to the list is also sent directly to the subscribed user, giving the user a double dose of spam; not by any fault of Debian, however. You can notice them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hope this is right. Get this from the top of my head). Is this really necessary? Supposedly the debian list maintainers are subscribed to their own lists. :) -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOL's spam policy
Yo- Who are we supposed to beat then? :) It is unfortunate that headers are so easy to forge. Hopefully some form of legislation will be passed that will illegalize spam. Anyone know anything about this? I am curious to know what actions if any are being taken. I have read the article on freshmeat about California proposing Anit-Spam legislation. California and New York are usually first to propose groundbreaking law. We'll have to wait and see. At least one state is taking a pro-active stance against spam. -Ian _ Ian K. Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] H: 940.566.0461 Pgr: 817.901.0255 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting info from Win '95 before removing it
On the release of Hamm I will be taking Win'95 off my 486 and replacing it with Linux (BTW, does 40 meg swap partition sound about right for 8 megs of RAM (total HD size=340MB)?). Before removing Win'95 is there anywhere I can get any information which may be useful to Linux? I have printed a full report from device manager. Thanks in advance Ian -- Ian Lynagh - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.sn.no/~balchen/igloo/ Not one shred of evidence exists in favour of the idea that life is serious. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
database server/debian stability
Yaeah! I'm so interested in use a free and stable database server. I'll try it however it need support transactions. Take a look at postgresql.. You can find it on the web at www.postgresql.com. Is the FreeBSD more stable than Linux? I now that the Red Hat comunity agree that. Does the Debian Comunity agree? After some recent experience w/ Redhat5, I would agree that freebsd is more stable than Redhat, but I haven't had any stability problems with Debian Linux in my 2years of using it. The 486 I use for ipmasqing was up 154 days before a power outage, for instance.. and that was on cheap consumer-grade hardware. -pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOL's spam policy
On 3 Apr, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- Who are we supposed to beat then? :) It is unfortunate that headers are so easy to forge. Hopefully some form of legislation will be passed that will illegalize spam. Anyone know anything about this? I am curious to know what actions if any are being taken. I have read the article on freshmeat about California proposing Anit-Spam legislation. California and New York are usually first to propose groundbreaking law. We'll have to wait and see. At least one state is taking a pro-active stance against spam. Actually,Washington state passed an anti-spam law just last month. Read about it at the url below. It makes it illegal to forge headers. Just what you are looking for. http://www.seattletimes.com/news/local/html98/junk_032698.html Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
abaqus and arcview like programs
Hi everybody, There are 2 programs called Abaqus and Arcview that engineers (civil) mostly use. I'd like to know if there are similar packages available for Debian. Thanks. Usman Roshan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting info from Win '95 before removing it
Ian Lynagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the release of Hamm I will be taking Win'95 off my 486 and replacing it with Linux (BTW, does 40 meg swap partition sound about right for 8 megs of RAM (total HD size=340MB)?). It sounds much too big. I would definitely NOT have swap space more than about twice my physical memory. Before removing Win'95 is there anywhere I can get any information which may be useful to Linux? I have printed a full report from device manager. You'll probably want to also get information specific to your isp - mainly, you'll want the IP addresses of the DNS servers (this will be under the properties of TCP/IP networking in the network control panel), and of course things like what number to dial. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting info from Win '95 before removing it
It sounds much too big. I would definitely NOT have swap space more than about twice my physical memory. Seriously? I've always been told to have around 3X when this little physical ram is involved. I have 16MB ram, but my total swap is 48MB. What would be the reson for only 2X? Chris -- '\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\ Live on Real Audio Thursday nights 8-11 EST http://www.uvm.edu/~wruv T-SNAKE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN:1868354 A DJ on a mission CROSSFADE RECORDS http://www.crossfade.com/ Drug free techno ,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/'\,/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need help with installation....!!
I get every thing goin except for the base diskettes then it say its unable to extract them, whats goin wrong??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no subject
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disk partitioning (again)
Hello again Thanks to all of you that gave me suggestions on my partitioning problem. I have one more thing to ask: I have decided to go with the method of changing my system file attributes so that my disk defragmenter will move them to the beginning of the drive. But how do I do this and how do I know which ones I need to change? Also, will this cause a major problem with my computer by moving these files? Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need help with installation....!!
I get every thing goin except for the base diskettes then it say its unable to extract them, whats goin wrong??? What disks are you using - form bo or hamm? hamm disks are not ready for a prime time yet. In any case the error you mentioned probably indicates bad floppy disk. Just create anotehr set of disks and try one more time. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with too much memory
-Original Message- From: Alex Yukhimets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Yukhimets Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 10:26 AM To: Timm Gleason Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Problems with too much memory Yes they do. Every time we add or remove memory modules we use one of these lines in lilo.conf and rune lilo, then reboot. append=mem=128M append=mem=256M append=mem=384M We have to have the append=mem=128M in our standard PII 233 servers in order to make them use all of the memory and we see no problems with them. It seems as though we only have these problems when we have more than one module installed. Yes, but if you have 3 modules installed, but still use append=mem=128M in lilo, do you have problems? I undersatand, that only one module will actually be used by a kernel in this case. Alex Y. Yes, it does fail, just as if all the modules were enabled. To test this, I put 2 modules in and activated them both and tested them, they failed. I deactivated one of them through lilo and the tests still fail. Timm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
