Re: 1) Problem when installing cnews 2) Do I need it ?

1998-04-04 Thread Joey Hess
shaul wrote:
 I tried to install cnews at the first place becuase it is a pre requierment 
 for NNTP. And the reason I want NNTP is becuase I want to be able to read 
 (and 
 post) news without the need for downloading large files from my ISP. Does 
 NNTP 
 a reasonble solution ? Are there better solutions ? (I am connected to the 
 Internet with a 33.6K modem and a dialup line).

Take a look at leafnode, or slrn's slrnpull command. Either will download
news to a small local news spool, which you can read offline.

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Pioneer DRM-602X multi-CD player and AHA-2940AU with Debian 1.3.1?

1998-04-04 Thread Cleto Pescia
Hello,

I'm trying to get a Multi-CD player Pioneer DRM-602X to work on a Debian
1.3.1 system (kernel 2.0.33 custom-compiled using make-kpkg) with
an Adaptec 2940AU SCSI controller, but without luck...
The various CD-ROM drives get different LUNs at boot-up, but then I get
timeout errors while trying to mount the CDs.
The SCSI chain also contains a Samsung SCSI HDD (ID 0), a SCSI CD-ROM
drive from MediaVision (ID 1) and an HP DAT C1533A streamer (ID 2).
As far as I can tell, termination is OK, as is the external SCSI cable.
The kernel SCSI options also seem to be correctly set. 

Any idea on how to make this thing work would be greatly appreciated!

I'm sorry for being slightly off-topic, but a search on www.dejanews.com
and www.reference.com didn't produce any useful results...

Cleto



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Re: AOL's spam policy

1998-04-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 03:49:09PM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
 Hi,
 
  same spam to them, please leave it to the Debian Team to take appropriate
  action. The mail you receive from the list mailer is useless for AOL, as
  they can't verify the origin of the spam, because the list mailer places a 
  new
  header on the mail. And even if you would have the full header, you could
  easily verify that most spam mails aren't really from AOL, but from
 
 I understand that, however, I get spam from these AOL spammers from both
 the list and directly to me.  As such, I will forward any spam from AOL
 sent directly to me to the AOL abuse address, even though the headers may 
 be forged.  I don't have the time to go through each and every spam header
 I get.  The abuse team at AOL is payed to do that, aren't they?

Yes. OTOH, if everyone would forward the lsit spam to them, this itself is
unsolicited and not helpful ;)  For personal mail I agree that this is the
best action.
  
  You beat the wrong people in these cases.
 
 Who are we supposed to beat then? :)  It is unfortunate that headers are
 so easy to forge.  Hopefully some form of legislation will be passed that
 will illegalize spam.  Anyone know anything about this?  I am curious to
 know what actions if any are being taken. 

Yeah, I agree with you. It wuld be interesting to hear.
 
  The only people who can take action are the people that have access to the
  debian list system, as they can verify the header on the original mail.
 
 True, but it seems that every spam that is sent to the list is also sent
 directly to the subscribed user, giving the user a double dose of spam;
 not by any fault of Debian, however.

Not everyone, but some. It is easy to filter the net for adresses :(
 
  You can notice them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hope this is right. Get this from
  the top of my head).
 
 Is this really necessary?  Supposedly the debian list maintainers are
 subscribed to their own lists.  :)

I'm not sure. They requested it, but not everybody should do so... Well,
they are subscribed, but they are also very busy. The point is that they can
block the IP numbers the spam was originated, but they need at least one
incident before being able doing so.

Thank you,
Marcus

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HP Deskjet 672C

1998-04-04 Thread Will Lowe
Anybody using this printer with linux?  It claims to be PCL3 compliant,
but I don't know if dvilj can convert from .dvi to pcl3...

Will


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giflib3g PLEASE?

1998-04-04 Thread Christopher J. McNicholas
Can someone *please* tell me where to find giflib3g or a suitable 
replacement? several packages refer to it as a depend, and I can't 
find it or something that will provide it.


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Choosing a printer for Linux:

1998-04-04 Thread Liran Zvibel
Hello,
I'm planing to buy a printer, and I don't know whether to choose Epson
Stylus color 800 or HP LJ 4L. I know that the Epson has PS level 2 as an
option, but the one at my store doesn't have it. Are there any other good
printers to choose from? 
Does anybody have experience with those? 

Thanks,

Liran Zvibel. 

http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/


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Re: Choosing a printer for Linux:

1998-04-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I'm planing to buy a printer, and I don't know whether to choose Epson
   Stylus color 800 or HP LJ 4L. I know that the Epson has PS level 2 as an
   option, but the one at my store doesn't have it. Are there any other good
   printers to choose from? 
   Does anybody have experience with those? 

I have plenty of experience with HP laser printers.  The L series is
in general a little iffy; it can be really difficult to clear some
kinds of jams.  I'd really recommend a P series over the L's.

And my HP LJ 6MP (PS level 2) is beautiful, just beautiful.  I love
it.

Don't know about the Stylus, sorry.


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Re: Choosing a printer for Linux:

1998-04-04 Thread John Kloss

I have an HP LJ 6L which I'm very satisfied with. $400 or less for the
machine (probably less now, sigh ... ). Used magicfilter to get it working
with linux (took about 5 seconds to do, no configuring really). I do
mostly postscript printing (latex to postscript using dvips, and
ghostscript to print the postscript) and the pages come out very nice and
clear. However, the first one I bought had a misaligned roller so 
everything came out slanted so ask for a test page print out at the store
where you buy it (compusa was very nice about this). 

I use linux kernel 2.0.30, gs 3.33-5, and magicfilter 1.2-10. Been using
it for about two months, no problems.

- John Kloss

On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:

 Hello,
 I'm planing to buy a printer, and I don't know whether to choose Epson
 Stylus color 800 or HP LJ 4L. I know that the Epson has PS level 2 as an
 option, but the one at my store doesn't have it. Are there any other good
 printers to choose from? 
 Does anybody have experience with those? 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Liran Zvibel. 
 
 http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/
 
 
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Debian, AOL and spam [igor@digicron.com: Re: META: Can we please restrict the list?]

1998-04-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

Igor, I took the freedom to forward this to debian-user, mainly because I
stated that the email adress is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my fault, it is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). I think the information is interesting for the user list,
too.

Thank you,
Marcus

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Hi,
I am the person that deals with debian spam.  I'd like to take this 
opportunity to ask everyone to forward the spam they see on debian lists to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I do read -user, -devel, -private, -policy, and countless 
other debian lists ;), but sometimes I don't get to them fast enough, so if 
people forward the mail, it would help.

 On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 07:00:20PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 05:52:10PM -0500, Shaleh wrote:
  How far do you want to take this? We could say that all we ever see
  from person x is trash, so they don't belong here either. Bad idea.
 aol, and the free email services, hotmail, juno, etc.
 AOL seems to be a special case, its the single biggest source of junk on the 
 net.

Well, AOL has millions of subscribers and only a tiny amount of them spam.  
AOL is also very serious and pro-active about fighting spam.  They have filed 
quite a few lawsuits against spammers recently.  Of course, it is very hard 
for them to filter every single new account, but they do cancel their accounts 
fast.

I've decided to block all aol.com mail using procmail rule that will forward 
it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If it's a real message, I will bounce it to the 
appropriate list.  I hope this will only be a temporary measure.

 I realize there are going to be exceptions to the general moronic level of 
 aol subscribers, but
 couldn't they telnet to their accounts on master? (all real developers have 
 these).
 and as for the free email services, just ban the lot of them.
 Since one needs to have real net access to upload a package, one has
 no need for the ability to post from the free (hotmail, juno and friends, 
 services).

Sorry, there is a reason to use free email services.  I change providers quite 
frequently, and notifying everyone of my new email address, and resubbing to 
all the lists got to be a big PITA real fast.  From then on, I've been using a 
free email forwarding service, and it has been quite a relief.  I know a lot 
of people (including some developers) who are in the same boat as I am.

Thanks.

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Re: mail in linux...

1998-04-04 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
First, the '_' character is illegal in host names. RFC 952 contains the
requirements for hostnames:

   1. A name (Net, Host, Gateway, or Domain name) is a text string up
   to 24 characters drawn from the alphabet (A-Z), digits (0-9), minus
   sign (-), and period (.).  Note that periods are only allowed when
   they serve to delimit components of domain style names. (See
   RFC-921, Domain Name System Implementation Schedule, for
   background).  No blank or space characters are permitted as part of a
   name. No distinction is made between upper and lower case.  The first
   character must be an alpha character.  The last character must not be
   a minus sign or period.  A host which serves as a GATEWAY should have
   -GATEWAY or -GW as part of its name.  Hosts which do not serve as
   Internet gateways should not use -GATEWAY and -GW as part of
   their names. A host which is a TAC should have -TAC as the last
   part of its host name, if it is a DoD host.  Single character names
   or nicknames are not allowed.

Since that RFC the requirement for the first character to be a letter has been
relaxed (see STD 3). You can't name your machine the same name as your ISP. That
would be disastrous. Name it whatever you like, really, because if you don't 
have
a real registered DNS name it doesn't make a difference (provided you don't use
the name of a real machine on the net). Perhaps you'll name your machine
'castle-of-lions'. I like that.

Anyway, it's more likely that your problem lies with DNS. Have you configured
your /etc/resol v.conf and /etc/host.conf for your ISP's DNS servers?

Dave Elliot wrote:

 Hey there,
   Well, I've run into some problems with trying to get mail up and running.
 Currently, I'm not using X(configuration problems), but once I do, I'll
 start using Mozilla.  However, I'd like to use e-mail with my system from
 the command line until then.  Here's the deal.  I set up my computer with
 the hostname 'castle_of_lions' and didn't get any complaints from the debian
 install.  However, when I ran smail(or maybe it was fetchmail), it said
 something to the effect that 'fqdn couldn't validate hostname'...  What does
 that mean?  So, I changed the hostname to something easier, and it accepted
 the hostname, but won't let me get mail.  I changed my computer name to
 mail.inxpress.net(my mail servers provider), and used fetchmail...  I told
 it to send my root mail to my main user(alfor).  When it downloaded it, it
 appeared to delete the messages, and I couldn't find them in any of the
 /home/(user) directories.  How can I set my system up to get and send mail?
 I think I read somewhere that I need to adduser with the name of my internet
 providers login/e-mail address.  However, when I try that, it won't allow me
 to use that(kingalfor)  Is there a limit on the length of linux usernames?
 I would like my system to have a hostname of 'castle_of_lions'.
 I'd like to be able to login my system without having to make a special user
 named kingalfor.
 I'd also like to use elm or perhaps pine.  I'd prefer pine, but can't find
 it anywhere in the distribution.  If it's there, could someone tell me where
 it is, or else, how do I get it?  I've got elm, I just have to learn how to
 use it.(if anyone can help me on configuring elm, that would be much
 appreciated also.)  I've read the HOWTO, but it just seems to be one big
 configuration file with not much help...  Maybe I'll try to look at it
 again, but please, any help would be appreciated.  Thanks!

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Re: mail in linux...

1998-04-04 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Elliot) writes:

SNIP
 the hostname, but won't let me get mail.  I changed my computer name to
 mail.inxpress.net(my mail servers provider), and used fetchmail...  I told
 it to send my root mail to my main user(alfor).  When it downloaded it, it
 appeared to delete the messages, and I couldn't find them in any of the
 /home/(user) directories.  How can I set my system up to get and send mail?

The messages were delivered to smail, which should have put them in
/var/spool/mail/user - this is the file that elm/pine/whatever (have 
you considered mutt? No? Why not?) will look in for new messages.

Pine is in non-free, assuming you're using stable (aka 1.3.1 aka bo) 
- the license on pine has some silly restrictions that make it not
completely free (in the sense of liberated, not in the sense of
costing nothing) software.

And your username on your isp's mail server and your username on your
own machine don't have to be at all the same.  I have an entry
something like this in my .fetchmailrc:

poll mail.geocities.com proto pop3
user topoliza with password x is martind here

since I have a mail account with geocities under the name topoliza
and my user name on my box is martind.


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DPKG question.

1998-04-04 Thread hospedales
Is there a dpkg command to veryify the integrity of a package too make
sure it downloaded okay? I skimmed through the manpage and documentation, but I
didn't find anything like that.

Thanks,
Timothy

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dpkg error installing gcc

1998-04-04 Thread Christopher J. McNicholas
Help!!
:-)

when I try to dpkg --install gcc.deb, I get the following error 
message:

trying to overwrite ' /usr/bin/g++ ', which is also in package g++
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)


what do I do now?!


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Installing Debian Linux..

1998-04-04 Thread Brandon
Could someone tell me what the base1 3.tgz is for and what the base.bin
files are for...
i am just kinda getting into linux and wanted to know...


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Re: HP Deskjet 672C

1998-04-04 Thread Matt Thompson
Hi, Will,

This printer is exactly the same as the HP 660 repackaged with a different
model number (I know this for a fact because I work for Mac/PC Zone :) ).
Make sure to install the gs or gs-alladin and magicfilter packages and
choose the 'dj550c' filter when prompted.

I have a 660Cse and performance is good, but color printing doesn't quite
reach the quality level you get under windoze. :(

*sigh* Maybe someday someone will sell a printer with optimized Linux
drivers and they will suddenly have 6 million die-hard customers. :)

HTH,
Matt

On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Will Lowe wrote:

 Anybody using this printer with linux?  It claims to be PCL3 compliant,
 but I don't know if dvilj can convert from .dvi to pcl3...
 
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Re: Choosing a printer for Linux:

1998-04-04 Thread Matt Thompson
Hello Liran,

I believe the PS L2 option for the Epson 800 is a software option that is
proprietary for either windoze or mac.

Ciao,
Matt

On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:

 Hello,
 I'm planing to buy a printer, and I don't know whether to choose Epson
 Stylus color 800 or HP LJ 4L. I know that the Epson has PS level 2 as an
 option, but the one at my store doesn't have it. Are there any other good
 printers to choose from? 
 Does anybody have experience with those? 
 
 Thanks,
 
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 http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/
 
 
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Re: HP Deskjet 672C

1998-04-04 Thread Rick Macdonald
Matt Thompson wrote:

 This printer is exactly the same as the HP 660 repackaged with a different
 model number (I know this for a fact because I work for Mac/PC Zone :) ).
 Make sure to install the gs or gs-alladin and magicfilter packages and
 choose the 'dj550c' filter when prompted.

Matt - I asked this question on the list awhile ago but got no response.
Hope you don't mind me asking you directly...

My wife has an HP DJ722c attached to her Win95 machine. Through samba
(and magicfilter and ghostscript's dj550c) I can print plain text and
postscript (from Netscape) to her printer.

When I tell Netscape to print color, nothing prints.

Any ideas? The 722c doc says it's a windows-only printer, but since the
greyscale works I'm hoping that color might work too.

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xdm, lesstif problems

1998-04-04 Thread Matt Thompson
Ok, I'm running full hamm, and just updated (about 20mb worth).  Now xdm
won't work at all, even with the /etc/init.d/xdm start command as root (I
have the same xdm file in /etc/init.d I had before).  And, when I do
'startx', it uses mwm instead of AfterStep, which I have called as the
last line of my .xsession file:

mattyt# cat .xsession 

exec xsysinfo -geometry 225x100+602+921 
xconsole -geometry 450x100+828+921 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed
-exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole -stick 
exec afterstep

I also got these errors regarding lesstif:

Installing files...
(Reading database ... 20196 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace lesstif-bin 1:0.83-3 (using
.../devel/lesstif-bin_0.83-4.deb) ...
dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
dpkg: error processing
debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/devel/lesstif-bin_0.83-4.deb
(--install):
 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish (forking to background)
Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/devel/lesstif-bin_0.83-4.deb
DPKG ERROR

Any help you can give would be *much* appreciated.  Life without AfterStep
and xdm is a drag. :)

TIA,
Matt



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Using sendmail for outgoing mail to ISP

1998-04-04 Thread Pierre Sarrazin
How can I configure sendmail under Debian 1.3 so that it can
send my outgoing mail to my ISP on demand (when I have
established a PPP link with my modem)?

I wanted to configure /etc/smail/routers myself but I did
not find the information I was looking for in the
smailconf(5) manpage nor in the HOWTOs. Can someone tell me
how to do this or where in my Debian system I could find the
appropriate documentation?

Thanks.

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Re: HP Deskjet 672C

1998-04-04 Thread Matt Thompson
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Rick Macdonald wrote:

 Matt Thompson wrote:
 
  This printer is exactly the same as the HP 660 repackaged with a different
  model number (I know this for a fact because I work for Mac/PC Zone :) ).
  Make sure to install the gs or gs-alladin and magicfilter packages and
  choose the 'dj550c' filter when prompted.
 
 Matt - I asked this question on the list awhile ago but got no response.
 Hope you don't mind me asking you directly...

Not at all. :)

 My wife has an HP DJ722c attached to her Win95 machine. Through samba
 (and magicfilter and ghostscript's dj550c) I can print plain text and
 postscript (from Netscape) to her printer.
 
 When I tell Netscape to print color, nothing prints.
 
 Any ideas? The 722c doc says it's a windows-only printer, but since the
 greyscale works I'm hoping that color might work too.
 
 -- 
 ...RickM...

Sorry, I don't have any experience with this printer, although I'm
familiar with it. :(  I don't know who it is, but you might try emailing
either the maintainer of the magicfilter package, or the original author.

We really should start an emailing campaign to get a printer manufacturer
to support Linux.  We may not spend money on software, but we sure are new
hardware junkies. :)

Matt


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Re: Choosing a printer for Linux:

1998-04-04 Thread Anthony Fok
On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 04:06:13AM +0300, Liran Zvibel wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm planing to buy a printer, and I don't know whether to choose Epson
 Stylus color 800 or HP LJ 4L. I know that the Epson has PS level 2 as an
 option, but the one at my store doesn't have it. Are there any other good
 printers to choose from? 
 Does anybody have experience with those? 

Well, it depends on a few choices:

  1. Do you want colour or black and white?
  2. Do you want an inkjet or laser printer?
  3. Price?
  4. Desktop space.  ;-)

My recommendation?  EPSON Stylus COLOR 800!  :-)

Why?  Because I have an EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 here and I *absolutely* love
it!  It is fantastic!  Its bw and colour print quality is awesome!  It
works great under Debian GNU/Linux with Ghostscript 5.10 (gs-aladdin),
i.e. you probably don't need EPSON's PS level 2 option.  (I have no idea
what if the option is hardware or software based.)

I want colours and I love colours, and EPSON Stylus COLOR 800 creates superb
text and photo printouts.  Ghostscript 5.10 even supports 1440x720 dpi mode! 
:-)  You can't go wrong with EPSON Stylus COLOR 500.  :-)

But then, if you prefer a laser printer instead, go with HP LJ 4L or other
fine printers.  :-)

Cheers,

Anthony

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Re: giflib3g PLEASE?

1998-04-04 Thread Jim Pick

Christopher J. McNicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can someone *please* tell me where to find giflib3g or a suitable 
 replacement? several packages refer to it as a depend, and I can't 
 find it or something that will provide it.

The source for it is in project/orphaned - so you'll need to compile
it yourself, I guess.

When hamm was frozen - many packages with major bugs were removed from
the distribution.  Somebody still needs to fix it, I guess.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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grep problems hamm

1998-04-04 Thread kevina
I first want to say that I am very pleased with the hamm release.
It had a latest version of everything that I needed with no
need to put any programs in usr/local thanks.

However...

I am having a problem with grep.  I can't get it to output ANYTHING!
No matter what I try it just returns to me in a split second.  This 
happens both with I specify files and when I use stdin or a pipe.

I installed hamm fresh via ftp with out any trace of the old debain
except for file I saved in my home dir.  Also, today a hole bunch of 
packages updated themselves via dpkg-ftp.

I believe grep was working before the update today but I am not sure.

If it is relevant I also recompiled the kernel (2.0.33) with ip_masq
support.


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Re: No subject given

1998-04-04 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Gnoh, Chee Seng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, 
 
 When I install Debian packages (from diskette) using dselect, I am
 asked for the packages.gz. Where can I get this file?

If you want to install single packages you should use the 

dpkg -i filename_of_the_package.deb

command.  Dselect should only be used for installation based on a
complete structure of packages including a descriptive file
Packages.gz which contains all available packages.

Torsten


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Re: Correct directory permissions list?

1998-04-04 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all,
 
 Somehow several directories on my 1.3.1 system have had their
 permissions changed.  So far I have found /tmp and /var/spool.  Is
 there some list somewhere that lists all the default permissions of
 these directories? Maybe a file in /etc or something?  I think it
 happened when I tried to use the netscape4 package to upgrade
 netscape 4.04 to 4.05 and it crapped out.

The permissions of /tmp are likely to be changed if you:

cd /tmp
tar xfz ...

As the tar archive contains an entry for the current directory, the
/tmp directory gets usually permissons of 755 after this.

No idea what might happend to /var/spool.

To answer your question, I don't know of such a file permission list
(except for suid programs).  The base-files package, for example,
contains the /tmp directory including its correct permission, but the
permissions are not part of the /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.list
file.

Torsten


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frozen grep

1998-04-04 Thread Alexey Vyskubov
Hello!

I installed grep_2.1-6 and /etc/init.d/xdm didn't work
until downgrade to 2.1-4.

It seems 

grep -q ^start-xdm /etc/X11/config

doesn't work more with grep_2.1-6.
Where is the problem and how to fix it?

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Re: pstree in fvwm* menus

1998-04-04 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 09:00:33AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
(..)
 However, it is possible that the pstree will be longer then the number of
 lines in an xterm of default size (24 lines).  What then?  We can always
 increase the size of the xterm but that wouldn't be a solution since there
 is still the potential to overrun the number of lines in the xterm if
 there are many processes.

You can do:

(while true; do pstree; sleep 5; done)  pstree.tmp tail -f pstree.tmp|less

Mirek


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Re: disk partition problem

1998-04-04 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 09:21:28PM -0500, Chris wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I have been reading about Debian, and I am eager to try it out.
 However, I seem to have a problem that I have not found an answer for
 yet, even after searching through all of the FAQ's and help documents I
 could find.  The problem is with partitioning my hard disk.  I DO NOT
 want to wipe it out (like using fdisk), so instead I tried FIPS (found
 on the Linux CD).  First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried
 to run fips.  Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard
 disk.  So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files
 that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine.  And
 
 that's where I'm stuck.  Please help me or tell me where I can get help
 so I can free myself from the tyranny of Windows!!

They might be special files which defraggers normally won't move. The
windows swap file is one.  If they are normal files, then try renaming them,
copying them back to their original names and then deleting the renamed
versions - hopefully the copies will be placed near the start of the
partition rather than at the end.

ie.
ren a b
copy b a 
del b

(hey - I remember those long DOS commands :-)

Adrian

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Re: frozen grep

1998-04-04 Thread Stefan Ratschan
 AV == Alexey Vyskubov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

AV Hello!  I installed grep_2.1-6 and /etc/init.d/xdm didn't work until 
downgrade to
AV 2.1-4.

Have the same problem, but don't have the package to downgrade. 
Can anybody give me a hint where I can find the 
old version of grep (grep-2.1-4.deb)?

Stefan Ratschan


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Re: frozen grep

1998-04-04 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 12:25:38PM +0200, Stefan Ratschan wrote:
  AV == Alexey Vyskubov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 AV Hello!  I installed grep_2.1-6 and /etc/init.d/xdm didn't work until 
 downgrade to
 AV 2.1-4.
 
 Have the same problem, but don't have the package to downgrade. 
 Can anybody give me a hint where I can find the 
 old version of grep (grep-2.1-4.deb)?
 

grep-2.1-7.deb is in incoming.

Mirek


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Re: Installing Debian Linux..

1998-04-04 Thread David R Baker
Brandon wrote:
 
 Could someone tell me what the base1 3.tgz is for and what the base.bin
 files are for...
 i am just kinda getting into linux and wanted to know...
 

Hi,

The 5 base-?.bin files are for writing to floppies.  They contain the
base system which has enough utilities to install the rest.  You 
might use these if you are making the floppies on one system to
install on another system that has no software yet.

The base1_3.tgz is for the common case where a dos system is already
on the system that you are going to add linux to.  It is simply the
same data as the previous files, all in one file.  The installation
program reads the hard disk, instead of floppies.  So, there is no
need to break it into floppy size chunks.

Hope you give linux a try.

ps  http://www.linuxpress.com has a nice installation guide you can
download.


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Re: xdm, lesstif problems

1998-04-04 Thread jdassen
On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 09:56:27PM -0800, Matt Thompson wrote:
 I also got these errors regarding lesstif:

[prerm failure]

Can you please tell me what version of grep you have installed. I'm still
not sure if this is a lesstif problem or a result of grep-2.1-6 being
broken.

TIA,
Ray
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Re: Anybody know how to tell for how long has ppp-if been up?

1998-04-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Nick Busigin wrote:

 On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, [iso-8859-1] Marcelo E. Magallón wrote:
 
  On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
  
   Cant help jumping in, is there an easy way to add/subtract times from the
   output of date???
   Or do you mean that the time-stamp file would be null length and use its
   creation time? even then, how can you work out the time since creation?
  
  I'm thinking C... use time_t, and add and substract that. strftime is your
  friend here. From the shell, use date with some funky formating (something
  like date +%Y%m%d%H%M.%S). You man add and substract that, and convert
  it to another format.
  
  And yes, for what I asked, it would be a null file, and use creation date
  for reference.
 
 I wrote a perl script that calculates ppp usage and breaks it down by user
 and also classifies it by prime/non-prime time usage.  If you like, I can
 mail it to you.

Yup.. I would like :) Can you mail it to me please? 


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Hamm compile errors.

1998-04-04 Thread ninjaz
Since getting hamm updates today, nothing wants to compile.. everything
ends up with a few pages of errors after hitting the first file.  Are
there any fixes out for this?  

libg++27-dev was not initially installed, but I tried plugging it in to
see if it would make a difference, to no avail. (libstdc++-dev has the
same problems)

(sample gcc output when compiling kde and ssh, which I have previously
compiled successfully w/ hamm):


KDE:
../config.h:90: warning: abstract declarator used as declaration
../config.h:92: parse error before `false'
../config.h:93: parse error before `true'

The lines it are complaining about are:
 90 typedef int bool;
 91 #ifdef __cplusplus
 92 const bool false = 0;
 93 const bool true = 1;
 94 #else



gcc -pipe -c -I.  -I./gmp-2.0.2-ssh-2 -I./zlib-1.0.4 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DHOST_KEY_FILE=\/etc/ssh_host_key\
-DHOST_CONFIG_FILE=\/etc/ssh_config\
-DSERVER_CONFIG_FILE=\/etc/sshd_config\
-DSSH_PROGRAM=\/usr/local/bin/ssh\ -DETCDIR=\/etc\
-DPIDDIR=\/var/run\ -DSSH_BINDIR=\/usr/local/bin\
-DTIS_MAP_FILE=\/etc/sshd_tis.map\ -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include ssh.c
In file included from /usr/include/sys/types.h:30,
 from includes.h:134,
 from ssh.c:168:
/usr/include/gnu/types.h:25: syntax error before `typedef'
In file included from ssh.c:168:
includes.h:175: parse error before `NO'
In file included from includes.h:185,
 from ssh.c:168:
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/include/stdarg.h:75: syntax error
before `void'



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Re: x is dead - non-free

1998-04-04 Thread Tristan Day
After loads of problems with LSL ( after 2 weeks they wrote back to me
saying my credit card was out of date because 1/10/98 in England means 1st
October and over in America it's 10th Jan, and I wrote back correcting them
but they said that I have to use another card)

I am facing a real dilemma with Distribution disks. If X becomes non-free,
there will be no point buying a Debian distribution CD if I am correct??

I mean, if X isn't on there, I'll have to dnld everything anyway, or buy Red
Hat ??

What a pain. X is a large part of Debian, it's stupid to make it non-free...

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KDElibs vs qt1 and libgif2

1998-04-04 Thread Nuno Carvalho
Hi,

 I'm trying to install KDE Beta3 but when I try kdelibs a get the
following message:

- cut here ---
(Reading database ... 16596 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kdelibs Beta3-1 (using kdelibs-Beta3-1.i386.deb)
...
Unpacking replacement kdelibs ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs:
 kdelibs depends on libgif2 (= 2.3); however:
  Package libgif2 is not installed.
 kdelibs depends on qt1 (= 1.3); however:
  Version of qt1 on system is 1.2-5.
 kdelibs depends on kdesupport (= Beta3-1); however:
  Version of kdesupport on system is Beta2-1.
dpkg: error processing kdelibs (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kdelibs
- cut here ---

 So, I will need libgif2, but I didn't fount it anyway on WEB; and for
qt1 package the
last version I found was 1.2-5 ! :(

 Where could I found this packages ?
 Has someone already installed KDE Beta3 ?


 Thank's.

  Best Regards,
   Nuno Carvalho


P.S. I'm using Debian 1.3.1

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Re: Hamm compile errors.

1998-04-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 06:07:23AM -0700, ninjaz wrote:
 The lines it are complaining about are:
  90 typedef int bool;
  91 #ifdef __cplusplus
  92 const bool false = 0;
  93 const bool true = 1;
  94 #else

This is evil; there is a built in bool type with the new g++
and libstc++28, so no need to pretend like this code does.


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Re: KDElibs vs qt1 and libgif2

1998-04-04 Thread Randy Edwards
  Has someone already installed KDE Beta3 ?

 Nuno, where did you find this new KDE beta?  I'm running hamm and the latest
I've seen at ftp.debian.org is packages requiring Beta2-2.  Either way, to 
answer
your questions, the hamm KDE package has dependency problems which make it not
function (at least that's my experience).

  I've reported this as a bug and am eagerly awaiting a fix as I've defaulted X
to use KDE as my primary window manager and after using KDE for a while don't
relish the thought of going back to fvwm2. :-)

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Re: x is dead - non-free

1998-04-04 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Tristan Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 After loads of problems with LSL ( after 2 weeks they wrote back to me
 saying my credit card was out of date because 1/10/98 in England means 1st
 October and over in America it's 10th Jan, and I wrote back correcting them
 but they said that I have to use another card)
 
 I am facing a real dilemma with Distribution disks. If X becomes non-free,
 there will be no point buying a Debian distribution CD if I am correct??
 
 I mean, if X isn't on there, I'll have to dnld everything anyway, or buy Red
 Hat ??
 
 What a pain. X is a large part of Debian, it's stupid to make it non-free...

As has been said many, many times, all the annoucement means is that
X11R6.4 from the open group will become non-free.  X11R6.3 will remain 
free - there's nothing the Open group can do about this.  And the
XFree86 people will continue develop, support, and improve their X
stuff. (and so we may very well see XFree86 producing their own
X11R6.4)

So, in short: DON'T PANIC.
X will remain a part of Debian now and in the foreseeable future;
futermore, it will remain free.  (this is one reason the DFSG are
written the way they are - once free, always free [1])  X development
may be slowed down a bit, but I don't at the moment see any reason to
be worried by that.

[1] This doesn't mean that one can't create a DFSG free product, and
then decide to make subsequent versions of the product non-free.
However, the versions that are released with DFSG compatible
licences will _always_ be DFSG free.


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pgp

1998-04-04 Thread Chris

Hi all

I notice alot of you use pgp signed messages.  I would like to set this up
myself (just for the hell of it) - but to be honest I can't figure out
how.

I tried to install the package pinepgp from my local debain mirror, but it
complains that it can't find the package pgp.

Any ideas how I can set this stuff up?

Thanks alot,


Chris


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Re: pgp

1998-04-04 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq

On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:

 I tried to install the package pinepgp from my local debain mirror, but it
 complains that it can't find the package pgp.
 
 Any ideas how I can set this stuff up?

You need to download the pgp package which is in a non-US based
distribution. Go to www.debian.org which explains how to get non-US
based packages. 

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Re: x is dead - non-free

1998-04-04 Thread john
 I am facing a real dilemma with Distribution disks. If X becomes non-free,
 there will be no point buying a Debian distribution CD if I am correct??

 I mean, if X isn't on there, I'll have to dnld everything anyway, or buy Red
 Hat ??

It is the *next* release of X that will be non-free.  The present release
will remain free and remain available, and XFree86 will continue to
maintain and support it.

 What a pain. X is a large part of Debian,...

And will continue to be.  X is *not* going to be removed from Debian.
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AOL and spam suggestion

1998-04-04 Thread M.C. Bezemer
Hi!

Just in case you didn't yet notice, it seems that the spam mail
on the debian-user list is coming from only ONE sender.

I'm not saying this really is true, but examining all headers of the
spam mail, I noticed that the following line:

X-Mailer: AOL 2.5 for Windows sub 2

(by the way, isn't that a bit obsolete?)
occurred in all these spam mails, that is,  From - About

John807601 - You've won!
GILLILIGAN - Hi im Sandra
JeffRow12  - You've won $5.000!
BUTCHER56  - Hi I want to meet you im a model!
Oasis179   - Im Jenny
V75ortex   - Here

(Skills123 asking about 'Linix' does not have that line, but:
 X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 62

 Dr Zap [EMAIL PROTECTED], asking about 'Fat 32 and Linux.', also doesn't
 use AOL 2.5 for Windows sub 2: his mail contains
 X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 68)

Not only the line mentioned above appeared in all messages, they also
had almost the same lay-out (e.g. 'Click Here')

The last time I bought a PC GAMER magazine [ Sept 1996, that's not quite
recently ;-) ] it contained something about a 15 hours free trial for AOL.
If it is still possible to have AOL access without having to pay or
even to identify yourself, it's quite impossible to catch the spammer.

In the message of Marcus Brinkmann about 'Debian, AOL and spam ...',
Igor Grobman wrote:
 I've decided to block all aol.com mail using procmail rule that will
 forward it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If it's a real message, I will bounce
 it to the appropriate list.  I hope this will only be a temporary
 measure.

To me this seems a good idea, as there don't seem to be much linux users
that send email from AOL. (As far as I can see 2 in the last 1.5 weeks)

Just for a suggestion, I just installed procmail. I don't yet fully
understand it, but I guess it should be possible to block mail from
AOL only if it was sent using AOL 2.5/Win sub2.
Thus normal mail (sent with AOL 3.0) just passes procmail and gets
on the list.


Greetings,
  Maarten Bezemer.


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[ppp] Many Protocol-Rejects

1998-04-04 Thread Steve Kostecke
I'm getting alot of Protocol-Reject entries in syslog.  What would cause this?

pppd 2.3.3 (hamm/frozen)

Apr  4 11:40:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x8a6c
Apr  4 11:40:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x4c1
Apr  4 11:41:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xc6f4
Apr  4 11:41:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xc3
Apr  4 11:41:38 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x5a12
Apr  4 11:41:38 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xa7
Apr  4 11:42:06 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x6e95
Apr  4 11:42:06 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x9efe
Apr  4 11:42:06 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xb7
Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x28eb
Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x4448
Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x22e8
Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x1f
Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xe1
Apr  4 11:43:07 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x1b
Apr  4 11:44:07 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x49
Apr  4 11:44:07 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xe94
Apr  4 11:44:36 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xc4b1
Apr  4 11:44:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x1238
Apr  4 11:44:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xa7
Apr  4 11:44:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0xcd
Apr  4 11:44:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
0x2e75

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database server/debian stability

1998-04-04 Thread Alain Toussaint
the good address for postgreSQL is http://www.postgresql.org/ it's not a
comercial organisation.

Alain

 Take a look at postgresql.. You can find it on the web at
 www.postgresql.com.



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Re: swapFILE vs swapDISK ??

1998-04-04 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 01:33:24PM -0500, Nebu John Mathai wrote:
 
 Is there any performance loss to making swapfiles (large ones), as opposed
 to having a static swap partition?
 Will it (this may sound silly, but my hard drive is old too ... 1993)
 increase the wear and tear on my hard drive?

Yes - with a swap partition you only need to ensure that you write to the
correct parts.  With a swap-file you have to deal with the filesystem too -
e.g. ensuring that the last modification date is correct must take a fair
bit of time for a swap-file!

Adrian

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Re: HP Deskjet 672C

1998-04-04 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 10:40:55PM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote:
 Matt Thompson wrote:
 
  This printer is exactly the same as the HP 660 repackaged with a different
  model number (I know this for a fact because I work for Mac/PC Zone :) ).
  Make sure to install the gs or gs-alladin and magicfilter packages and
  choose the 'dj550c' filter when prompted.
 
 Matt - I asked this question on the list awhile ago but got no response.
 Hope you don't mind me asking you directly...
 
 My wife has an HP DJ722c attached to her Win95 machine. Through samba
 (and magicfilter and ghostscript's dj550c) I can print plain text and
 postscript (from Netscape) to her printer.
 
 When I tell Netscape to print color, nothing prints.
 
 Any ideas? The 722c doc says it's a windows-only printer, but since the
 greyscale works I'm hoping that color might work too.

There is some windows-only deskjet stuff (prints in black and white only)

  http://www.rpi.edu/~normat/technical/ppa

Adrian

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Re: mail in linux...

1998-04-04 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 07:25:12PM -0600, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
 First, the '_' character is illegal in host names. RFC 952 contains the
 requirements for hostnames:
 
1. A name (Net, Host, Gateway, or Domain name) is a text string up
to 24 characters drawn from the alphabet (A-Z), digits (0-9), minus
sign (-), and period (.).  Note that periods are only allowed when
they serve to delimit components of domain style names. (See
RFC-921, Domain Name System Implementation Schedule, for
background).  No blank or space characters are permitted as part of a
name. No distinction is made between upper and lower case.  The first
character must be an alpha character.  The last character must not be
a minus sign or period.  A host which serves as a GATEWAY should have
-GATEWAY or -GW as part of its name.  Hosts which do not serve as
Internet gateways should not use -GATEWAY and -GW as part of
their names. A host which is a TAC should have -TAC as the last
part of its host name, if it is a DoD host.  Single character names
or nicknames are not allowed.

I think the install should check for this - it's not too difficult and would
avoid people naming their computers wrongly (particularly post-win95).

Adrian

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aic7xxx + IBM DCAS 4.3GB = LI

1998-04-04 Thread Michael Agbaglo
before changing boot=/dev/sda1 to boot=/dev/sda
I got 1FA: instead of LILO. Now I'm getting LI - I've had Suse on the
system and no problems at boot. I don't want to re-install Suse again
just to get this problem solved.


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Re: [ppp] Many Protocol-Rejects

1998-04-04 Thread Florian Attenberger


On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Steve Kostecke wrote:

 I'm getting alot of Protocol-Reject entries in syslog.  What would cause this?
 
 pppd 2.3.3 (hamm/frozen)
 
 Apr  4 11:40:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x8a6c
 Apr  4 11:40:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x4c1
 Apr  4 11:41:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xc6f4
 Apr  4 11:41:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xc3
 Apr  4 11:41:38 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x5a12
 Apr  4 11:41:38 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xa7
 Apr  4 11:42:06 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x6e95
 Apr  4 11:42:06 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x9efe
 Apr  4 11:42:06 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xb7
 Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x28eb
 Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x4448
 Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x22e8
 Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x1f
 Apr  4 11:43:05 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xe1
 Apr  4 11:43:07 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x1b
 Apr  4 11:44:07 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x49
 Apr  4 11:44:07 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xe94
 Apr  4 11:44:36 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xc4b1
 Apr  4 11:44:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x1238
 Apr  4 11:44:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xa7
 Apr  4 11:44:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0xcd
 Apr  4 11:44:37 stasis pppd[16063]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 
 0x2e75
Your connection works nevertheless, right.

I think that this is the same as with my ipppd (pppd for isdn). This
simply means that either u or your provider do not support a protocal that
you or your provider offers. I fact these messages do not matter anything
because the lowlevel protocols of the modem (V42bis,Vflex) are
sufficient. 
examples (from isdn, but should be the same as modem) 
ip-header comression
bsd-compression
predictor1 


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help with SCSI warnings

1998-04-04 Thread John Szumowski
Whenever I use (i.e. install a package or use find- some read intensive
task) my SCSI cdrom, I get the message
Warning: Running low on SCSI on SCSI DMA buffers
Whenever I use (i.e. install a package or use find- some read intensive
task) my SCSI cdrom, I get the message
Warning: Running low on SCSI on SCSI DMA buffers

This occurs on my 486 running Debian 1.3.1- the SCSI card in question in
an Adaptec 1535 (a 154x sans bios).
I'm using a kernel that I've recompiled from the 2.0.32 deb package- all
my base SCSI stuff is hardwired (I saw a few posts on Dejanews
suggesting that this might solve the problem- it doesn't, in my case),
while the cdrom and the iso9660 filesys are set up as modules.

These messages sometimes fill up an entire screen- but more than being
an annoyance that I'd like to solve, I wonder why they're occuring.

Thanks!

John Szumowski
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This occurs on my 486 running Debian 1.3.1- the SCSI card in question in
an Adaptec 1535 (a 154x sans bios).
I'm using a kernel that I've recompiled from the 2.0.32 deb package- all
my base SCSI stuff is hardwired (I saw a few posts on Dejanews
suggesting that this might solve the problem- it doesn't, in my case),
while the cdrom and the iso9660 filesys are set up as modules.

These messages sometimes fill up an entire screen- but more than being
an annoyance that I'd like to solve, I wonder why they're occuring.

Thanks!

John Szumowski
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pgp

1998-04-04 Thread Chris

This is probably off the topic, but I was wondering what the difference is
between the international and America only versions of pgp are?  Which
is better?  Why?  (Not that I am allowed to use the america only version -
I'm just interested in why there is a difference)

Thanks for any info,

Chris


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[Offtopic: Java Mode broken in Xemacs20?]

1998-04-04 Thread hospedales
Hi. I just installed xemacs20 (I had xemacs19 before).

Previously I did Tools-VC-RegisterFile-FileName.java, and it would do syntax
highlighting and allow me to use indentation and stuff.

Now when I try that, it says Searching for program: No such file or directory,
admin. 

Any idea on how to fix this, or any other way to get it to syntax highlighting?

Thanks,
Timothy

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Problems with symlinks and moving /usr to another partition

1998-04-04 Thread Kiyan Azarbar
I have two (non-swap) ext2fs partitions, /dev/hda8 and hda9. I had
hda9 mounted on /rep. The thing is, I've been running out of space so
I decided to move /usr to the new partition. What I did is do a 
cd /
cp -av usr rep

Which resulted in a /rep/usr directory being created. Then I did

cd /
rm -rf usr
ln -s /rep/usr usr

This created a symbolic link, and everything seemed to be
working. Problem is, now I've got ldconfig problems, where a bunch of
libs aren't being found. That's because in /usr/lib (really
/rep/usr/lib)
there are entries like libm.so - ../../lib/libm.so.6*

Now this was broken, because if you go into /usr/lib and type 
cd ../../lib it works, and it goes into /lib, but pwd will show
//lib which is weird. Now if you do ls ../../lib it works.

But if you do a ls -l ../.. it lists the contents of /rep, not /.
This is where I'm confused about the difference between real absolute
paths and those which contain symlinks. I'm thoroughly
confused. Anyway, it isn't able to dereference ../../lib/libm.so.6
from /usr/lib, so I went into /rep, and manually made a symlink by:

ln -sd /lib lib

Now ldconfig is ok. But I'm just wondering if there is an elegant way
to get around this problem, maybe using the symlinks package to make
the links absolute, or by using some arcane option of ln when I make
the original usr link in the / directory.

Any help appreciated.
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Re: x is dead - non-free

1998-04-04 Thread Gary Kline

The news about X11 is among the more disturbing items I've
heard in this realm--the unix-paradigm world.  An X-guru 
coworker mentioned this possibility to me a few months ago
but I never thought that corporate greed would sink to
this depth. 

But the offstage buzzer is sounding: `Wrong!'


According to George Bonser:
 On 4 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It is the *next* release of X that will be non-free.  The present release
  will remain free and remain available, and XFree86 will continue to
  maintain and support it.
 
 Stop!  XFree will ALWAYS be free.  It will continue to evolve in future
 releases. XFree might diverge over time from OpenGroup's X but if more
 systems use XFree than OpenGroup's X they become moot.  
 
 I think you will realize that OpenGroup has simply shot themselves in the
 foot bigtime.
 

Yep...  Foot and head.  Any further such divisiveness and
the commercial UNIX and X operations are going to go down
the drain.

gary kline




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libXmu.so.6 error?

1998-04-04 Thread Christopher J. McNicholas
After I installed xlib6g, I get an error trying to startx:

can't load library libXmu.so.6

I reinstalled X332lib.tgz, but still no good. I peeked in the lib 
directory and found these:

libXmu.a
libXmu.so
libXmu.so.6
libXmu.so.6.0

What should I do to fix X?


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Starting X-Windows 8bpp

1998-04-04 Thread John Wingfield
Can anyone tell me how to start X-Windows at greater than 8bpp.  I am
using XFree86 and using an X Server which is capable of this.

Thanks

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Re: x is dead - non-free

1998-04-04 Thread john
I wrote:
 It is the *next* release of X that will be non-free.  The present release
 will remain free and remain available, and XFree86 will continue to
 maintain and support it.

George Bonser writes:
 Stop!

Stop what?

 XFree will ALWAYS be free.

Yes, of course it will.  'X', however, refers to 'The X Window System',
which is a registered trademark of TOG.  X11R6.4 will be the next release
of X, and it will not be free.  Doesn't matter much, though, because we
have XFree.  I thought I made that clear.
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Re: Starting X-Windows 8bpp

1998-04-04 Thread Shaleh
Take a glance at xinit or startx's man page.  It boils down to a -bpp
option.

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backspace key under X in vim

1998-04-04 Thread Stuart Marshall
Hi,

There have been previous discussions on this topic but I never quite
understood them.  As near as I can tell, an out of the box hamm/frozen
system has the backspace key configured differently than it was in
Debian 1.3.

The particular example that concerns me most is under the application
vim.  When I am editing a file and in insert mode, the backspace
key deletes the character under the cursor instead of the character to
the left of the cursor.  This is extremely annoying.  I have fixed
the problem locally by placing the line keycode 0x16 =  Delete in my
/etc/X11/Xmodmap file but the problem persists when logged in remotely
on a Solaris machine running a standard X11R6.3 xterm.  I don't know
whether to blame vim, X, Debian, or the readline lib setup, but I just
want the backspace key to do what it has always done (until now).

So I have two requests.  Can someone explain how Debian thinks it
should be.  And more important to me, can anybody tell me how to make
the backspace key delete the character to the left of the cursor (both
locally and remotely).

thanks,
Stuart


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I need hellp installing debian....

1998-04-04 Thread Brandon
i got my diskettes (rawimage files) wrote to disk and i goto install base
it says unable to extract i redownload and got a fresh diskette out of
my newly bought box of disks and it says it still unable to extract..If it
helps i am using packerd bell legend supreme with win95 and a 56k modem a
zip drive and a ide cdrom drive.please help me


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Re: I need hellp installing debian....

1998-04-04 Thread aqy6633
 i got my diskettes (rawimage files) wrote to disk and i goto install base
 it says unable to extract i redownload and got a fresh diskette out of
 my newly bought box of disks and it says it still unable to extract..If it
 helps i am using packerd bell legend supreme with win95 and a 56k modem a
 zip drive and a ide cdrom drive.please help me

What disk images do you use?
(Where did you get them? Specify the directory you downloaded them from.)

Alex Y.

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