Re: A newbie chicken and egg question

1998-04-18 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 08:33:52AM +0100, John wrote:
 Hello
 
 I have debian stable (base only) installed on a 400mb partition on my
 laptop. I am trying to install manpages so that I may look up answers to
 the questions I may have (like configuring to facilitate an ftp install
 via ppp of additional components). 
 
 What I am trying to do is to download the required programs and
 dependencies for manpages on the win95 partition, transfer to floppy
 with rawrite, and install from there. I have no cdrom drive, which is
 why I have to install in such a roundabout fashion initially. 
 
 I therefore need to know
 
 1. what the name of the manpages archive is
 2. the required dependencies relative to a base installation
 3. how to install a particular file in the appropiate location without
 going through the GUI.
 
 Apologies if I appear to be trying to re-invent the wheel. If there is
 an easier way to accomplish what I am trying to, please tell me or pont
 me to the appropiate URL.


I'm not sure where in the install process you can start using ftp, but
these steps may help you use the windows hard drive instead of a floppy.

if you have a vfat filesystem for windows:

create a directory for mounting your windows drive
  mkdir /dos

edit /etc/fstab to insert something like:
  /dev/hda1  /dos   vfat  defaults  0  1
  h for ide
  a for first disk
  1 for first partition

mount the windows disk
  mount /dos   or maybe   mount /dev/hda1 /dos

Now you can copy files directly from the windows hard drive.


 
 Thanks. 
 
 John
 
 
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Re: Can emacs and xemacs coexist?

1998-04-18 Thread shaul
You can use xemacs in a VT.

 I've got xemacs installed on my stable Debian 1.3.1, and it works just fine,
 but I want to use emacs for file viewing and manipulation in a normal
 console because I don't like vi. I tried to install emacs in dselect but it
 tells me I have to take components of xemacs out, because they conflict. Is
 this a small conflict that would be OK to force using dpkg, or do I have to
 choose between them?

By the way, how can I tell the aliases in my .bashrc to work only when I am 
using X (I don't need xemacs -geometry 87x28 when I am not using X) ?


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Install Mailsystem HELP!

1998-04-18 Thread Helmut Metzdorf
Hello, debian fans (I hope so) out there

trying to set up a mail system I have run into problems.

1st: I have dialup connection to an ISP using ISDN (ipppd) and have all
of that running and tested (ftp, www, etc.).

In my attempt to give the last remnants of B.G. on my computer a
farewell I just need just one thing more - a running mail system.

And thats what i did:
Sunday:load and install (using DSELECT) smail, fetchmail
andprocmail.
Monday:study the Network-Administration-Guide.
Tuesday:   finish with NAG and switch to the Net3-Howto, Mail-Howto, 
   Offline-Howto and the PPP-Howto.
Wednesday: Next the manpages and online docs at /usr/doc.
   Feeling prepared for a first test. OK. Cause I have 
   subscribed to two mailing lists, this one and the german
   list, there is nearly allways mail to be fetched. 
   Set up the .fetchmailrc, dial in to your provider,
startfetchmail (verbose and keep of course) and see what
happens.  
   connect to mailserver OK.
   password OK.
   xxx messages to get.
   retreave messege 1.  (till here its just my words.)
   SMTP connect to (null) failed
   bla, bla
   SMTP transaction error while fetching 
   normal termination Code 9.  (didnt note that either)  
   So far it was what I had expected cause the manpage said
   there has to be an MTA (Mail Transport Agent) ready to
   take over.
Thursday:  Reading more closely the smail manpage, ah, there it is.
   The options -bd will cause it to listen for incomming mail 
   and process it. Shuffling my feet, cut the green around
the house, clean up my kitchen (I have just a private
account at
   a commercial ISP, and he will charge bussines fees if I dare 
   using the account during bussines hours).
   Time!!! 
   Dial in to my ISP.
   Start smail -bd
   Start fetchmail
   Same error.
   Checking the log files finding in /var/log/smail/...
   bind() failed address already in use
   Browse the net (www) loading down the ISDN4Linux FAQ
   loading down Bernd Hailers ISDN documentation (URL´s in
   /usr/doc/??? 
   Browsing through this mailing list: someone wrote
   he could read his mail using fetchmail (how that?).
   Anyway its too late, lets call it a day.
Friday:Checking the manpages on procmail more closely, they say
   procmail can be used as MTA, OK lets try that next.
   Shuffling my feet (again). Paing a visit to downtown,
   write thanks to a guy that helped you on this list - more 
   then overdue.
   Set up ~/.forward
   Set Up ~/.procmailrc
   Time!!! 
   Dial in to my ISP.
   Run fetchmail
   Same error
   Retry it in different combinations (files in /root/
   or in $HOME/).
   Starting fetchmail as root or as user.
   All the same.
   What to do next? (besides studying the doc I have loaded down
   yesterday -the Bernd Hailer docs helped me a lot
settingup my internet connection-.)  
   Write this message and hope.

Thanks in advance,

 Helmut.

p.s. The (of cause futil) attempt of cron to run smail every 20
minutes  (runq) just gives me nerves. Is it save to edit the
appropriate  crontab (/etc/smail/crontab?) ore even emove it?


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Linux Installation

1998-04-18 Thread Larry Panzer
Dear Sir/Madam,

I am a Linux novice who would like to get started with Debian Linux.  I
currently have a Zenith Data Systems 486 33MHz SX with 16Mb of RAM, a 125Mb
Hard Drive, a 1.44Mb floppy, and a VGA display.  I have successfully
installed the base system, unfortunately I would like to run X-window for
Linux. I doubt that it would work on only a 125Mb hard drive, and I don't
even have a CD-ROM.  It would be nice if someone could steer me towards an
inexpensive option for the minimum hardware required to run X. I have no
real experience with UNIX or Linux and would like to use this system for a
learning platform.  I have attempted to install a IDE compatable CD-ROM on
a Plug-and-Play compatable sound card but have not been able to get this
set-up to detected or used by Linux.  Could you offer any suggestions?  

Might it be a better idea to aquire a new/er computer on which to install
Linux.  Could you please tell me the hardware which would keep me within a
~$500 budget ( I am a high school student with limited funds).  Even a 386
type computer would be okay, if it works with Linux, but where could I find
parts?  I have a 14 VGA monitor which I'm planning to use with this
system. My main problem is picking devices which are comptable with Linux,
what would you recommend?  Please offer any help you can. 


Mark Panzer   


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Re: newbie boot ?

1998-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 05:25:06AM -0700, Gil Nielsen wrote:
 Hi, Am real new to this. Just installed debian base system from floppys. it
 went fine. I am booting with the custom floppy and it hangs at md driver
 0.35 MAX-MD-Dev=4 MAX-REAL=8 for about 10 min. before it continues
 booting. Is there a way to delete this line? or should'nt I? Thanks

(I may be mistaken, but) this line isn't actually caused by the MD driver,
which is not a hardware driver but a software device. The device after
MD is the one that hangs.  The best solution is to recompile the kernel
with just the devices you need. Also, if the device immediately after MD
tells you what it is an what I/O it is looking at, you could reserve
it at the LILO prompt (then in lilo.conf) so that the device isn't
allowed to probe.


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Re: Install Mailsystem HELP!

1998-04-18 Thread Alain Toussaint
did you try the -q and the -m options ???

here's how i'm using smail:

sendmail -bd -q30m

p.s.i think sendmail is a symlink to smail

-q[interval]
  Cause smail to process its input  spool  directory.
  If  an  interval  is  given,  smail will repeatedly
  check its input spool directory, sleeping  for  the
  given  interval between checks.  The interval is in
  seconds, though it can be defined as a sequence  of
  numbers  with  suffixes of `s' for seconds, `m' for
  minutes, `h' for hours, `d' for days, `w' for weeks
  and  `y' for years.  For example, -q2h30m specifies
  an interval of two hours and 30 minutes.  This flag
  is useful in conjunction with the -bd mode of oper-
  ation and will cause the daemon process to wake  up
  on  these  intervals  and perform queue processing.
  Performing a single queue run is the  default  mode
  of  operation  if  smail  is  invoked as runq.  Any
  parameters are used to match  message  ids  in  the
  queue, and those messages are processed.  If a mes-
  sage id is given, but the message  is  not  in  the
  queue  (due to a mistake or the message having been
  already delivered), then the parameter is  silently
  ignored.

-m or -om
  Allow retention of the sender as  a  recipient  for
  alias  and mailing list expansions that include the
  sender.  If this is Not set, the  sender  will  not
  receive  a  copy of the message only as a result of
  being in an alias or mailing list.



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Re: Why no g++?

1998-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 03:49:44PM -0400, Shaleh wrote:
 I discovered this before a CS project was due (-;  G++ is now a separate
 entity.  Hamm/Slink is now using the egcs c++.  I was concerned at
 first.  However this is a better compiler.  The STL is also MUCH more
 fully fleshed out.  mapbalh,foo exists.  Install the g++ package and
 the libs and get back to coding (-:

Although it might be wise to confirm that your source will still be
compilable on the system at university. For example, I've been developing
some C++ for a software systems engineering project, and our engineering
Unix systems (Suns) have only Sun's compilers (which don't appear to have
the STL) and g++ 2.7.2.x, which won't compile anything written using the
STL etc for 2.8.x in my experience.

Fortunately our CS machines have egcs 2.8.x g++ installed and they
are also Suns, and binary-compatible.


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Re: problem with xterm -- doesn't logout

1998-04-18 Thread Austin Donnelly
Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm using Debian's lastest hamm packages, kernel 2.0.33 (pre34-5), etc..
 
 xterm doesn't logout upon exiting.. the user/host still shows up in
 the who and users commands.  This problem occurs on both of my Debian
 systems, each with similar setups.  Anyone else have the same problem?
 
 Is this a bug with my system or the xbase(includes xterm) package?  Any
 suggestions on how to fix it?

See Bug#20685 and Bug#20913 for more discussion of this.

If you don't mind recompiling your xterm, you can apply a temporary
fix.

Austin


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Re: Linux Installation

1998-04-18 Thread Alain Toussaint
 Dear Sir/Madam,
 
 I am a Linux novice who would like to get started with Debian Linux.  I
 currently have a Zenith Data Systems 486 33MHz SX with 16Mb of RAM, a 125Mb
 Hard Drive, a 1.44Mb floppy, and a VGA display.  I have successfully
 installed the base system, unfortunately I would like to run X-window for
 Linux. I doubt that it would work on only a 125Mb hard drive, and I don't
 even have a CD-ROM.  It would be nice if someone could steer me towards an
 inexpensive option for the minimum hardware required to run X. I have no
 real experience with UNIX or Linux and would like to use this system for a
 learning platform.  I have attempted to install a IDE compatable CD-ROM on
 a Plug-and-Play compatable sound card but have not been able to get this
 set-up to detected or used by Linux.  Could you offer any suggestions?  

you need a bigger hard disk,i use nearly the same computer ( 486/DX2 50
mhz,16 MB ram,1.7 GIG hard disk,bare-bone vga) and yes i use X (on 16
color except when running xquake,but even with this low end system,Star
Office run fine),about your CD,does your hard disk is IDE,if yes,plug the
CD on the same interface as the hard disk and put the jumper (if there's
one) on the slave setting (a manual help there but on my CD unit,it's
clearly marked).

 
 Might it be a better idea to aquire a new/er computer on which to install
 Linux.  Could you please tell me the hardware which would keep me within a
 ~$500 budget ( I am a high school student with limited funds).  Even a 386
 type computer would be okay, if it works with Linux, but where could I find
 parts?  I have a 14 VGA monitor which I'm planning to use with this
 system. My main problem is picking devices which are comptable with Linux,
 what would you recommend?  Please offer any help you can. 

for a 500$ budget,you can buy a texas size hard disk (say in the 4 to 6
GIG range).

Alain



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PCI NE2000 clone w/1.3.1, 2.0.30 kernel

1998-04-18 Thread jim
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Can someone give a hint as to what I need to do to use this card?
/proc/pci reports

PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device  18, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
  Medium devsel.  IRQ 12.  
  I/O at 0x6500.

but modprobe ne.o 0x6500 locks the system up...

- - Jim


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Slip Dialer

1998-04-18 Thread Pete Poff
Does anyone know if there is slip dialer for debian?  I need one that
I can either run to connected me the internet service I have and be able
to put the program in the background, or I need one that I could run it
off of an account on Alt-F1 and run my internet programs on Alt-F2.  If
anyone knows of what I need, could they tell me what its called and where
I can find it.

Thanks,

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Re: Slip Dialer

1998-04-18 Thread Tim Metz
 Does anyone know if there is slip dialer for debian?  

Pete,

The package you are looking for is called dip, it is located under the net 
directory in the Debian distribution.

Hope this helps,

- Tim
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Re: Debian2.0 and tetex

1998-04-18 Thread Mark Phillips

Graham Pople ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 There is a version of tetex-base 0.9 to go with the available version of
 tetex-bin 0.9. It's somewhere on Debian's FTP server, here:
 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/tex/
 Just right-click on the tetex-base0.9 directory, and select 'save as'.
 It's not particularly stable, however. 

What is unstable about tetex?  I am just about to upgrade to Hamm but
given that fully functional latex2e is vital to my work, does this mean
upgrading would not be wise now?  If so, when is tetex likely to be
stable?  (I would like to upgrade to hamm as soon as possible so I can
install some other packages like siag.)

Thanks,

Mark.
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Spreadsheets and siag

1998-04-18 Thread Mark Phillips

Has anyone had any experience with siag (Scheme in a Grid)?  I have looked
at the web page (http://www.edu.stockholm.se/siag/) and it looks pretty
good.  But it would be nice to get some feedback from people who have
actually used it!  How good is it and how does it compare to other
spreadsheets?

Thanks,

Mark.

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Modem Help Please!!!

1998-04-18 Thread Brandon




I have a zoom 56k modem..I noticed that Debian 
and most other linux have support for ethernet cards but not much for regular 
modems...How do i use my modem under linux. My modem is on port 2 irq 3.. Please 
help if you can!? 

 
Thanks
 
Brandon at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: PCI NE2000 clone w/1.3.1, 2.0.30 kernel

1998-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 10:51:19PM -0400, jim wrote:
 Can someone give a hint as to what I need to do to use this card?
 /proc/pci reports
 
 PCI devices found:
   Bus  0, device  18, function  0:
 Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
   Medium devsel.  IRQ 12.  
   I/O at 0x6500.
 
 but modprobe ne.o 0x6500 locks the system up...

I have one of these in a system here; conf.modules says

options ne io=0x6100 irq=11

and it works fine. /proc/pci says

PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device  19, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
  Medium devsel.  IRQ 11.
  I/O at 0x6100.

Interesting that yours has a different device number to mine. I have another
of these cards again which is device 14; but that's in a 486. I think
it's slot-dependent.


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Re: NiC Cards

1998-04-18 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 17 Apr 98 15:04:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Cool, hardware debian packages!

The Free Hardware Foundation, hmmm 

Actually, I recently saw an announcement (c.o.l.a.?) about exactly
this.  Someone wants to start up a project to develop open-circuit
hardware (if that's what you'd call it).

Sorry, but I can't find the reference right now.


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Re: Modem Help Please!!!

1998-04-18 Thread Alain Toussaint
 I have a zoom 56k modem..I noticed that Debian and most other linux have  
 support for ethernet cards but not much for regular modems...How do i
 use my modem under linux. My modem is on port 2 irq 3.. Please help if
 you can!? 
 
Thanks

 Brandon at  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

first,put a enter at the end of each line in your message,it did not make
your message unreadable on my mailreader but there are other mailreader
who will put your message as one line and your message may be deleted
ASAP by a potentially bored user (think as a user who's used to be
receiving 200 messages each day's !!!).

now,for the lack of driver for modem is that the serial driver,the ppp
driver and the slhc driver is all that's needed for a ppp net
connection,i think your problem is that the modem is plug  play and this
is what cause your problem,do a check on the board (if it's an internal
modem,i dont know where to check for an external one) or check in the
manual,there may be a mode witch (hope i got the spelling right) disable
the plug  play,you should provide us with more detail because i can't
help further than this.

Alain



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Re: where is tetex-base 0.9-1 ?

1998-04-18 Thread Christophe Broult
Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For awhile now, tetex-bin in frozen has been requiring tetex-base =0.9-1
 to install.  But that version of tetex-base doesn't exist in frozen.
 Anyone know where it currently can be found?

That version should appear soon in frozen. Meanwhile you may consider
installing the one dist/slink which works perfectly.

Chris

 
 
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tetex-bin:
  tetex-bin depends on tetex-base (= 0.9-1); however:
   Version of tetex-base on system is 0.4pl8-7.
 dpkg: error processing tetex-bin (--configure):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 
 
 
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Re: PCI NE2000 clone w/1.3.1, 2.0.30 kernel

1998-04-18 Thread Christophe Broult
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 10:51:19PM -0400, jim wrote:
  Can someone give a hint as to what I need to do to use this card?
  /proc/pci reports
  
  PCI devices found:
Bus  0, device  18, function  0:
  Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
Medium devsel.  IRQ 12.  
I/O at 0x6500.
  
  but modprobe ne.o 0x6500 locks the system up...
 
 I have one of these in a system here; conf.modules says
 
 options ne io=0x6100 irq=11
 
 and it works fine. /proc/pci says
 
 PCI devices found:
   Bus  0, device  19, function  0:
 Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
   Medium devsel.  IRQ 11.
   I/O at 0x6100.
 
 Interesting that yours has a different device number to mine. I have another
 of these cards again which is device 14; but that's in a 486. I think
 it's slot-dependent.

yet another NE2000 clone.

PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
  Medium devsel.  IRQ 10.  
  I/O at 0x6100.

BTW, I've read somewhere that the support might be better in Linux
2.0.33 kernel.


Chris

 
 
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exim mutt, weird

1998-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I have exim (1.90-3) and mutt (non-i, 0.91.1-1) installed here;
when I send a message, mutt sets the from address to just
hamish@@. 

[7:01pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ hostname
hamishpc
[7:02pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ hostname -f
hamishpc.rising.com.au
[7:02pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ dnsdomainname
rising.com.au

/etc/hostname says just hamishpc

My own .muttrc just sets my pop username and hostname.
Nothing in /etc/Muttrc to do this.

/etc/exim.conf says (a grep for domain):

qualify_domain = rising.com.au
local_domains = hamishpc.rising.com.au
local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true
relay_domains = rising.com.au


Any ideas? I installed exim on this machine as a test before
changing a production machine from smail to exim, but want to get
this running before I play further.

thanks,
Hamish
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Re: A newbie chicken and egg question

1998-04-18 Thread John
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Bradshaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
if you have a vfat filesystem for windows:

I should have mentioned that the windows partition is compressed, sorry,
therefore linux can't read it directly. This is why I need a base system
capable of dialup ppp and manpages so that I can ftp what I need off the
net. pppd functions correctly as far as I can see, but the instructiond
for pon and poff and plog say look in the manpages for further info, and
manpages aren't in the base install.

What I need are the list of dependencies for manpages, the manpages
binary, how to install manpages and the same for HAMM (ie ppp dialup).
If I dload them to win95 partition, I can split them into 1.44mb chunks,
transfer them to the linux partition, stitch them back together again
and install from there.

Thanks

John


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Re: Debian2.0 and tetex

1998-04-18 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Mark Phillips wrote:

  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/tex/
  Just right-click on the tetex-base0.9 directory, and select 'save as'.
  It's not particularly stable, however. 
 
 What is unstable about tetex?  I am just about to upgrade to Hamm but
 given that fully functional latex2e is vital to my work, does this mean

AFAIK the teTeX included with hamm is 0.4, the last known stable one.
(notice he is talking about dists/slink). teTeX 0.9 is still beta, and
has been for a long time.

I have used teTeX 0.9 for a while, but not under Debian, and I find it
as stable as 0.4 but YMMV. The unstable things in 0.9 are probably things
not present at all in 0.4 (like omega and pdflatex).

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gzip question

1998-04-18 Thread John
Hello

I have a non accessible (from linux) win95 partition [0]. I have
downloaded a lot of files onto here that I want to install to linux.
Some of these files are too large to put onto floppy, so they need to be
split. I have gzip for dos on win95, also pkzip.

The command for pkzip would be pkzip -e0 - a:\bla.zip *.* 
What is the equivalent for gzip? How would I stich the files back
together again?

[0] - it is doublespaced. bleargh. I cannot remove it for work reasons.
bleargh again.


John


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Re: gzip question

1998-04-18 Thread Christophe Broult
John [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello
 
 I have a non accessible (from linux) win95 partition [0]. I have
 downloaded a lot of files onto here that I want to install to linux.
 Some of these files are too large to put onto floppy, so they need to be
 split. I have gzip for dos on win95, also pkzip.
 
 The command for pkzip would be pkzip -e0 - a:\bla.zip *.* 
 What is the equivalent for gzip? How would I stich the files back
 together again?
 

You may consider trying unzip.

Chris

DESCRIPTION
   unzip  will  list,  test,  or  extract  files  from  a ZIP
   archive, commonly found on MS-DOS  systems.   The  default
   behavior  (with no options) is to extract into the current
   directory (and subdirectories below it) all files from the
   specified ZIP archive.  A companion program, zip(1L), cre-
   ates ZIP  archives;  both  programs  are  compatible  with
   archives created by PKWARE's PKZIP and PKUNZIP for MS-DOS,
   but in many cases the program options or default behaviors
   differ.

 [0] - it is doublespaced. bleargh. I cannot remove it for work reasons.
 bleargh again.
 
 
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Re: Bad/Counterfeit memory? [Was: Upgrading to hamm]

1998-04-18 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 FWIW,
 
 I took the suggestion to try 2.0.32, and my system still acts up with
 128M in it.  64M is fine.  I think it's the new SIMMs.  They don't fail
 memtest86, but gcc and dselect won't work...
 
 I haven't tried to test *just* the new SIMMs yet, but I'm suspicious of
 them simply because they have a Micron Technology logo on the chips,
 which has been carefully laser(?)-etched to the point where it's nearly
 impossible to see.  There is a diamond pattern over the MT logo.
 
 The outfit that sold them to me told me that they were Micron chips,
 and it took me a *long* time to discern the MT logo at all.  I suspect
 that they're rejects, or don't test out at 60ns like they're marked,
 or something...  Can anyone verify this?  I tried them at 70ns and they
 still don't work.
 
 Be careful when buying Major brand memory, and get a commitment to
 the manufacturer name in advance if possible.

 It does not help if they are brand memory or not, if they are broken. Simple 
 ESD burst will damage chips more or less. It most propably damages them to
 the point that they are working, but later fail randomly. 

 It ain't bs that 'they' talk about ESD protection, charges are *evil* to chips.
 ( I used to work on a components distributor handling a warehouse of
 chips going to electronics industry)

 Get your SIMMs changed and next time ground your self. And remember to 
 demand properly hadled stuff - somebody on the line might have been 
 wearing a sweather made of wool, and zapped the SIMMs with a lot of kvolts.

 BTW. there is difference in quality between brand stuff and so called 3rd party
 memory -  12k SIMMs (Hyndai, Samsung) in 6 months and 2 pcs faulty compared
 to som 20k 3rd party stuff and 8-16% faulty in the same time. 



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Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ ISA card

1998-04-18 Thread dg

Hi,

I can get some Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ ISA and/or PCI cards for free, and
I'm asking myself, if these cards are making any problems with Linux. I
found the drivers on the Net, and I will get the cards next week, so speaks
anything against an installation in my two machines ???

Thanx for any comments.

Bye

Daniel

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Re: exim mutt, weird

1998-04-18 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have exim (1.90-3) and mutt (non-i, 0.91.1-1) installed here;
 when I send a message, mutt sets the from address to just
 hamish@@. 

[snip]


I think a better way to handle this is to let exim rewrite your
headers. The following is at the end of my /etc/exim.conf:


##
#  REWRITE CONFIGURATION #
##

^(b3po|wwjt)@* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ffr

# End of Exim configuration file


The username portion is part of a regular expression (sorry if you
knew that already) that matches our local names with the pop mail
name. Therefore, you would replace 

^(b3po|wwjt)@* [EMAIL PROTECTED]

with

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Let me know if you have any other questions.

BTW, I have seen so many postings on smail. I would encourage smail
users to try out exim. Not only is it more powerful, its configuration
is far easier and more logical than that of smail.

Thanks,
Bake


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Re: PCI NE2000 clone w/1.3.1, 2.0.30 kernel

1998-04-18 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 10:51:19PM -0400, jim wrote:
 Can someone give a hint as to what I need to do to use this card?
 /proc/pci reports
 
 PCI devices found:
   Bus  0, device  18, function  0:
 Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
   Medium devsel.  IRQ 12.  
   I/O at 0x6500.
 
 but modprobe ne.o 0x6500 locks the system up...
That should be modprobe ne io=0x6500, but just use
  modprobe ne
The sentence of ne not probing should be clarified as this is only valid
for ISA cards. PCI NE2000 clones work well without specifying the io
address.

Nils

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sSMTP's 'Root' option: any justification?

1998-04-18 Thread Hugo Haas
Hi everybody.

Is anyone using sSMTP's 'Root' option?

Its aim is to send mail to 'Root' (i.e. postmaster by default) instead of
sending it to a user with a UID  10 on your system. For Debian systems, that
means that mail sent to root, daemon, bin, sys, sync, games, man, lp, mail and
news will be sent to the same person, which is not a good idea to my mind. It
means that you can't send an email to your root for instance. 

Therefore, does anyone see a good reason to do so? If it's not the case, I'm
planning to remove this option.

Regards,

Hugo
(sSMTP upstream  package maintainer)

PS: please Cc me when you reply because I'm not subscribed to debian-user.

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Re: exim mutt, weird

1998-04-18 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 07:05:47PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 I have exim (1.90-3) and mutt (non-i, 0.91.1-1) installed here;
 when I send a message, mutt sets the from address to just
 hamish@@. 

In .muttrc I have:

set hostname=earthlink.net# my DNS domain
set use_from# always generate the `From:' header field

Hope it's helpful!


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Printer now printing properly HOWTO suggests magic filter?

1998-04-18 Thread Kenneth F. Ryder III

I was reading the HOWTO for printing (which was quite helpful) and it was
telling me I needed filters to get my printer to behave (it prints in the
staircase method)

file:
this is 
not printing 
the way it should be


Print out:

this is
not printing
the way it should



As I said the HOWTO said something about using filters to fix this, and
that the magic filter (by B.A. McCawley) was available on the net.  (This
filter seemed to cover many formats, which I would like to support.) Is
there a way I can get a Debian package and use dselect to install it that
will be magicfilter / do the same thing as magicfilter does? Or do I
already have one? I have the Official Debian 1.3.1 Binay and Source disks
from lsl.com,  perhaps they contain magic filter in a Debian package?  

Also, I would like to recompile my kernel, I have done this with Slakware,
durring its install I told it to install the kernel source, once in the
system I changed to the soucre directroy and ran make menuconfig, how do
I do this in Debian? 




Thanks
Ken




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Re: Can emacs and xemacs coexist?

1998-04-18 Thread Christian Weisgerber
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 By the way, how can I tell the aliases in my .bashrc to work only when I am 
 using X (I don't need xemacs -geometry 87x28 when I am not using X) ?

Use a function such as

xemacs() {
  if [ -n $DISPLAY ]; then
command xemacs -geometry 87x28 $@
  else
command xemacs $@
  fi
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Re: exim mutt, weird

1998-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:18:53PM +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 07:05:47PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
  I have exim (1.90-3) and mutt (non-i, 0.91.1-1) installed here;
  when I send a message, mutt sets the from address to just
  hamish@@. 
 
 In .muttrc I have:
 
 set hostname=earthlink.net  # my DNS domain
 set use_from  # always generate the `From:' header field

Thanks for your help. Although this will certainly work, I'd ideally
like a proper solution rather than just a workaround. I assume
that you've had the same problem then, since you have implemented this?
It worked fine here with smail. 


Odd,


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Re: Printer now printing properly HOWTO suggests magic filter?

1998-04-18 Thread Ralph Winslow
Kenneth F. Ryder III wrote:

Yes, magicfilter is available in a .deb and can be installed with
dselect. It's spcifically available on Debian 1.3.1 from CheapBytes
and I'd assume it's on the lsl CDs, too.  Just put the CD in the drive,
run dselect, choose the CD medium, and when you get to the Select
screen, enter /magicfilterRETURN.  You should see the selection
line.  If not, try the ftp medium.   HTH
 
 I was reading the HOWTO for printing (which was quite helpful) and it was
 telling me I needed filters to get my printer to behave (it prints in the
 staircase method)
 
 file:
 this is
 not printing
 the way it should be
 
 Print out:
 
 this is
 not printing
 the way it should
 
 As I said the HOWTO said something about using filters to fix this, and
 that the magic filter (by B.A. McCawley) was available on the net.  (This
 filter seemed to cover many formats, which I would like to support.) Is
 there a way I can get a Debian package and use dselect to install it that
 will be magicfilter / do the same thing as magicfilter does? Or do I
 already have one? I have the Official Debian 1.3.1 Binay and Source disks
 from lsl.com,  perhaps they contain magic filter in a Debian package?
 
 Also, I would like to recompile my kernel, I have done this with Slakware,
 durring its install I told it to install the kernel source, once in the
 system I changed to the soucre directroy and ran make menuconfig, how do
 I do this in Debian?
 
 Thanks
 Ken
 
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Re: Printer now printing properly HOWTO suggests magic filter?

1998-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 10:26:53AM +, Kenneth F. Ryder III wrote:
 As I said the HOWTO said something about using filters to fix this, and
 that the magic filter (by B.A. McCawley) was available on the net.  (This
 filter seemed to cover many formats, which I would like to support.) Is
 there a way I can get a Debian package and use dselect to install it that
 will be magicfilter / do the same thing as magicfilter does? Or do I
 already have one? I have the Official Debian 1.3.1 Binay and Source disks
 from lsl.com,  perhaps they contain magic filter in a Debian package?  

They do indeed -- in the text section. Run dselect, locate this package
(/ to search, \ to repeat the last search), and + to pick it.
Then Install from the main menu. 

You might want to use ghostscript from non-free; you'll have to download
that with FTP from one of the mirrors. The non-free version is newer
than the free one (that's the way the ghostscript license works).

 Also, I would like to recompile my kernel, I have done this with Slakware,
 durring its install I told it to install the kernel source, once in the
 system I changed to the soucre directroy and ran make menuconfig, how do
 I do this in Debian? 

Same way. The source should be in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32 or
whichever version. You can run make menuconfig etc in there just as before.

After doing that though, you might want to build the kernel using
make-kpkg instead of make zImage etc; do

make-kpkg kernel_image

That will build a .deb file containing the kernel and all the modules.
Then use dpkg -i kernel-image-2.0.32_1.00_i386.deb (or whatever the
filename produced is, in /usr/src) to install it.

make-kpkg is in the package kernel-package.

Hamish
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Mirroring hamm from different sites - timestamp.txt?

1998-04-18 Thread Mark Phillips

I want to mirror hamm on my machine at home, but because the site I was
mirroring from died, I am now mirroring from a different site.  The
problem is that mirroring doesn't seem to neccessarily keep the same time
stamp for some reason (to do with timezones), hence if I switch to another
site with slightly different time stamps, mirror thinks all the files
need updating when really they don't.  Now I understand there is a way of
overcoming this by telling mirror to ignore time stamps, but this causes
other problems because sometimes you don't want mirror to ignore the
times.  I notice that there is a file timestamp.txt in the base debian
directory.  Perhaps there is a way of using this to overcome my problem? 
Perhaps there is a new version of mirror which adjusts for timezone
differences? 

Any ideas or info would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Mark.

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Re: exim mutt, weird

1998-04-18 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 I have exim (1.90-3) and mutt (non-i, 0.91.1-1) installed here;
 when I send a message, mutt sets the from address to just
 hamish@@. 
 
 [7:01pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ hostname
 hamishpc
 [7:02pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ hostname -f
 hamishpc.rising.com.au
 [7:02pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ dnsdomainname
 rising.com.au
 
 /etc/hostname says just hamishpc
 
 My own .muttrc just sets my pop username and hostname.
 Nothing in /etc/Muttrc to do this.
 
 /etc/exim.conf says (a grep for domain):
 
 qualify_domain = rising.com.au
 local_domains = hamishpc.rising.com.au

 I have here:

 local_domains = lonesom.pp.fi:lonesom.pp.fi

 Otherwise similar setup. 


 local_domains_include_host = true
 local_domains_include_host_literals = true
 relay_domains = rising.com.au
 
 
 Any ideas? I installed exim on this machine as a test before
 changing a production machine from smail to exim, but want to get
 this running before I play further.
 
 thanks,
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how to set time to EST5EDT

1998-04-18 Thread Shaleh
I have a bo box that did not change times for day light savings time. 
How do I reconfigure the time so it does?
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HP LaserJet 6Lse and Linux???

1998-04-18 Thread DAVID B. TEAGUE


HI 

Does nay one know if anHP LaserJet 6Lse will talk with Linux? Or better,
do you know a a way to make it print postscript (in software) from
Linux?  It understands Enhanced PCL 5 printer control language. 

My printer died, and I have a short deadline. M$Word 6 format is
required by my publisher. So I bought the HP LaserJet 6Lse, which is
known to work with Win3.1/95 amd M$Word6.  It appeared to be the only
printer in the store that did not say something horrible such as
WinPrinter or Windows ONLY.

Hope someone has an answer 

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Re: HP LaserJet 6Lse and Linux???

1998-04-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Does nay one know if anHP LaserJet 6Lse will talk with Linux? Or better,
   do you know a a way to make it print postscript (in software) from
   Linux?  It understands Enhanced PCL 5 printer control language. 

Yes, use Ghostscript, it translates PostScript = PCL quite well.

   My printer died, and I have a short deadline. M$Word 6 format is
   required by my publisher. So I bought the HP LaserJet 6Lse, which is
   known to work with Win3.1/95 amd M$Word6.  It appeared to be the only
   printer in the store that did not say something horrible such as
   WinPrinter or Windows ONLY.

It's a good printer.  You shouldn't have any major problems.


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Re: HP LaserJet 6Lse and Linux???

1998-04-18 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, DAVID B. TEAGUE wrote:

 Does nay one know if anHP LaserJet 6Lse will talk with Linux? Or better,
 do you know a a way to make it print postscript (in software) from
 Linux?  It understands Enhanced PCL 5 printer control language. 

If you want to use magicfilter, set it up as an hp 4 or 4L.  Apparently
the 4 is better with resolution, but I haven't gotten around to changing
mine.

HTH,
Brandon

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the FAQ-O-MATIC is down ?????

1998-04-18 Thread Alain Toussaint
i tried to see the FAQ-O-MATIC but the (debian) server keep saying error
404 file not found,where i can see it 

Alain



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Re: HP LaserJet 6Lse and Linux???

1998-04-18 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, DAVID B. TEAGUE wrote:

 
 
 HI 
 
 Does nay one know if anHP LaserJet 6Lse will talk with Linux? Or better,
 do you know a a way to make it print postscript (in software) from
 Linux?  It understands Enhanced PCL 5 printer control language. 
 
 My printer died, and I have a short deadline. M$Word 6 format is
 required by my publisher. So I bought the HP LaserJet 6Lse, which is
 known to work with Win3.1/95 amd M$Word6.  It appeared to be the only
 printer in the store that did not say something horrible such as
 WinPrinter or Windows ONLY.
 
 Hope someone has an answer 

It should work with ghostscript, using one or more of the following
drivers which exist in gs-aladdin 5.0:

ljet4 lj4dith lj5mono lj5gray



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Summary: YES. Re: HP LaserJet 6Lse and Linux???

1998-04-18 Thread DAVID B. TEAGUE
Thanks to:

Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And maybe others, I sent the message, ate lunch and here are the
answers!

I asked:

   Does nay one know if an HP LaserJet 6Lse will talk with Linux? Or
   better, do you know a a way to make it print postscript (in software) 
   from Linux?  It understands Enhanced PCL 5 printer control
   language. 

Summary:

   Yes, use Ghostscript, it translates PostScript = PCL quite
   well. 

   It should work with ghostscript, using one or more of the
   following drivers which exist in gs-aladdin 5.0: 

   ljjet4 lj4dith lj5mono lj5gray

   I you want to use magicfilter, set it up as an hp 4 or 4L.
   Apparently the 4 is better with resolution, but I haven't gotten
   around to changing mine. 


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Unidentified subject!

1998-04-18 Thread Scott D. Killen
What exactly is the hamm release?

Scott D. Killen
Scott Killen Software
http://www.skillsoft.com 


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Residual X11R5 and a.out errors?

1998-04-18 Thread Britton

While trying to install or remove X programs with dselect, I often get
whole slews of errors like these:

ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout/libdb.so.1 (No such
file or directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R5/lib/libXt.so.3 (No such file or
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R5/lib/libXaw.so.3 (No such file or
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R5/lib/libX11.so.3 (No such file or
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/libXt.so.6 (No
such file or directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/libXaw.so.6
(No such file or directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/libXIE.so.6
(No such file or directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/libX11.so.6
(No such file or directory), skipping

They all seem to relate to things that May have existed in 1.2 (even 1.3)
for back compatibility but are presumably phased out now.  My system has
been upgraded in place from 1.2, could these errors be holding over from
then?  Is there something I should do to fix them?


Britton Kerin
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Re: Unidentified subject!

1998-04-18 Thread Britton

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Scott D. Killen wrote:

 What exactly is the hamm release?

hamm is the nickname for the next version of Debian, 2.0.  It has been
frozen for testing since April 1st and most of the problems seem to have
dissapeared now.  It is slated for release in late April.

 Scott D. Killen
 Scott Killen Software
 http://www.skillsoft.com 



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what .deb has pixmap?

1998-04-18 Thread pgarcia
What package contains the utility pixmap (like bitmap, but for xpm files)?
I know I had it, but it seems to have disappeared.

This comes up with nada: dpkg -S pixmap | grep pixmap$
So does this: dpkg -l pixmap


Thanks,
Phil Garcia
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Re: gzip question

1998-04-18 Thread Alain Toussaint
i think there's a Unix version of pkzip 2.60 available on the pkzip web
site,doesn't know if it run on Linux (had no time to check this when i
viewed the site),i'm pretty sure that it also work with gzipped file,the
address is:

http://www.pkware.com/

 Hello
 
 I have a non accessible (from linux) win95 partition [0]. I have
 downloaded a lot of files onto here that I want to install to linux.
 Some of these files are too large to put onto floppy, so they need to be
 split. I have gzip for dos on win95, also pkzip.
 
 The command for pkzip would be pkzip -e0 - a:\bla.zip *.* 
 What is the equivalent for gzip? How would I stich the files back
 together again?
 
 [0] - it is doublespaced. bleargh. I cannot remove it for work reasons.
 bleargh again.
 
 
 John


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Re: Linux Installation

1998-04-18 Thread Graham Pople
 Dear Sir/Madam,
 
 I am a Linux novice who would like to get started with Debian Linux.  I
 currently have a Zenith Data Systems 486 33MHz SX with 16Mb of RAM, a 125Mb
 Hard Drive, a 1.44Mb floppy, and a VGA display.  I have successfully
 installed the base system, unfortunately I would like to run X-window for
 Linux. I doubt that it would work on only a 125Mb hard drive, and I don't
 even have a CD-ROM.  It would be nice if someone could steer me towards an
 inexpensive option for the minimum hardware required to run X. I have no
 real experience with UNIX or Linux and would like to use this system for a
 learning platform.  I have attempted to install a IDE compatable CD-ROM on
 a Plug-and-Play compatable sound card but have not been able to get this
 set-up to detected or used by Linux.  Could you offer any suggestions?  

you need a bigger hard disk,i use nearly the same computer ( 486/DX2 50
mhz,16 MB ram,1.7 GIG hard disk,bare-bone vga) and yes i use X (on 16
color except when running xquake,but even with this low end system,Star
Office run fine),about your CD,does your hard disk is IDE,if yes,plug the
CD on the same interface as the hard disk and put the jumper (if there's
one) on the slave setting (a manual help there but on my CD unit,it's
clearly marked).

 
 Might it be a better idea to aquire a new/er computer on which to install
 Linux.  Could you please tell me the hardware which would keep me within a
 ~$500 budget ( I am a high school student with limited funds).  Even a 386
 type computer would be okay, if it works with Linux, but where could I find
 parts?  I have a 14 VGA monitor which I'm planning to use with this
 system. My main problem is picking devices which are comptable with Linux,
 what would you recommend?  Please offer any help you can. 

for a 500$ budget,you can buy a texas size hard disk (say in the 4 to 6
GIG range).

Alain

He's right, definitely a new hard drive. I installed Debian on a 100meg
partition to test it out, and have since installed XWindows and KDE. Now
I want to start adding some proper applications, and run out of room.
However, I think a 4-6 gig is a bit overkill - just 1 gig would probably
sort you out with all the Linux apps your'll need.

Graham Pople ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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All emulators at E1 Newsletter (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/e1news.htm)


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Re: Linux Installation

1998-04-18 Thread Alain Toussaint
 He's right, definitely a new hard drive. I installed Debian on a 100meg
 partition to test it out, and have since installed XWindows and KDE. Now
 I want to start adding some proper applications, and run out of room.
 However, I think a 4-6 gig is a bit overkill - just 1 gig would probably
 sort you out with all the Linux apps your'll need.

yep,excellent reply,instaid of buying a 4-6 gig drive,get one smaller and
get a good graphic card too if you think you'll use X a lot,i got mine
free but it's far from the best (especially when it's not upgradable).

Alain


 
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Re: A newbie chicken and egg question

1998-04-18 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi,

 What I need are the list of dependencies for manpages, the manpages
 binary, how to install manpages and the same for HAMM (ie ppp dialup).
 If I dload them to win95 partition, I can split them into 1.44mb chunks,
 transfer them to the linux partition, stitch them back together again
 and install from there.

 I'm sure you have more resources available than you realize.  The
manpages package contains man pages for system related stuff, not for
applications.  All application packages contain their own manpages,
and this is true of the base system as well.  Do a ls /usr/man/man1|more
and ls /usr/man/man8|more to see which ones are already on your system.

 You can read them (sort of) with zmore /usr/man.man1/pon.1.gz.
This shows the file with all the nroff formatting codes, which is
tough to read, but can be figured out.  The man-db packages contains
the man browser which displays them properly formatted.  I don't
remember which linux version you were installing.  For hamm the man-db
dependencies are groff, libc6 and libdb2 (= 2.3.10).  For bo (1.3),
the man-db dependencies were groff, libc5 (= 5.4.0-0) and libdb1.

 However, I think it would be counterproductive to try to download
these piecemeal through the other system and floppies.  I believe you
said you had ppp working, or almost working, and you should be able
to finish setting it up without the manpages.  The comments in some of
the skeleton config files - /etc/chatscript/*, /etc/ppp/options,
/etc/ppp/options_out, /etc/ppp/peers/provider (some of these are bo
and some are hamm - the ppp setup changed quite a bit between the two
releases) should help.  Also look at the files in /usr/doc/ppp,
especially /usr/doc/ppp/README.debian.gz.  Once ppp is running you can
use the ftp option of dselect to download and install what you need.

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The lost file 's city soundtrack :)

1998-04-18 Thread Pierre Dupuis
Helo list :)

Well, i'm expecting some problems during some package installation (libc6
and co)

During the configuration phase, dpkg tell me that :

-libc.so
-libreadline.so
-libhistory.so

are missing, i would like to know if someone else than me have expecting
the same problems, and if someone know something about that :)

Bye :)

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Rédacteur du Music Review
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Re: exim mutt, weird

1998-04-18 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 12:42:43AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:18:53PM +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 07:05:47PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  
   I have exim (1.90-3) and mutt (non-i, 0.91.1-1) installed here;
   when I send a message, mutt sets the from address to just
   hamish@@. 
  
  In .muttrc I have:
  
  set hostname=earthlink.net# my DNS domain
  set use_from# always generate the `From:' header 
  field
 
 Thanks for your help. Although this will certainly work, I'd ideally
 like a proper solution rather than just a workaround. I assume
 that you've had the same problem then, since you have implemented this?
 It worked fine here with smail. 

To me the correct way is unset use_from and let the MTA generate the
correct address.  With the default set use_from, I've seen hostname
info appear in the from address when that machine shouldn't be receiving
email.

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Garbage after typing pppd-d

1998-04-18 Thread Michael A. Endsley
I have tried searching for my answer, but have missed it (I guess).
After connecting to my ISP through Minicom, I do 'Ctrl-A Q' and get back to
my root prompt. 
I then type 'pppd-d' (or 'pppd'). All I get is the garbage that I see when
ppp is started under 
Minicom. Any ideals why this is?
FWIW- I am using a Practical Peripherals ext 28.8 modem and trying to
install/run the Debian package that came on the BOOT cd.  Also, I have
Linux installed on another machine and all works great.
I can provide other info if it is needed.
Thanks,
Mike



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Re: Garbage after typing pppd-d

1998-04-18 Thread Nathan C. Burnett
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Michael A. Endsley wrote:

 I have tried searching for my answer, but have missed it (I guess).
 After connecting to my ISP through Minicom, I do 'Ctrl-A Q' and get back to
 my root prompt. 
 I then type 'pppd-d' (or 'pppd'). All I get is the garbage that I see when
 ppp is started under 
 Minicom. Any ideals why this is?

This is because pppd defaults to trying to start a PPP connection on
stdout.  pppd needs several command line parameters in order to work
correctly.  You need to specify things like what port your modem lives on
and how fast that port can go.

If you prefer not to use command line params you can put all the options
you need in /etc/ppp/options

For more info see:

The pppd(8) man page  (man pppd)
the PPP-HOWTO  (available all over the web)
on your local system /usr/doc/ppp/* (especially /usr/doc/ppp/examples/*)

l8r, Nate

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Re: Cannot login?

1998-04-18 Thread Carroll Kong
Hey guys.  Big problem... I had freebsd 3.0 sitting around, decided to
mount my linux ext2fs partitions with it.  I umounted it... rebooted back
into linux.  Now I can ONLY login as root.  If I login as myself it says.

cannot cd /home/damascus

And.. if I su damascus as root it says

su:  cannot run /usr/bin/zsh permission denied:

I was guessing my SUID bits are ripped off, but they are still there, I
think?  The lower case 's' is still there for a lot of binaries.  Is there
any EASY way to restore system functionality aside from backing up and
reinstalling?  Like.. rerunning a particular package or something?  Thanks
in advance guys.  

BTW, I checked most permissions, like /home and /bin/login and
/home/damascus and /usr/bin/zsh.  I even tried su as a different user, but
I get the same permission denied error.  I really do not think this is an
operator error in the sense that I do not know anything about
permissions.  (error operator in the sense that I should never have mounted
ext2fs with freebsd. :(  )  

In the end it seems like a permission error, does anyone know what kind of
files are required to do such a thing?  



-Carroll Kong


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Re: Sound problems

1998-04-18 Thread Stephen Carpenter
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 09:09:05AM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
 
  If youw ant the Easy way out check out
  www.4front-tech.com they have the OSS/Linux sound card drivers
  They work great and suport many cards. They have one advantage in being
  comercial software (there is also OSS/Free...but it doesn't have
  everything that OSS/Linux has)
 
 RANTThere is nothing Easy about OSS/Linux.  OSS/* is an example of how
 NOT to write good drivers for Linux.  =p/RANT
Ok I will admit...it has its um quirks
reminds me..have to set mu /usr/include/
sym links back
 
 If at all possible, I strongly advise you use OSS/Free in the kernel for
 now.  OSS/Linux has been known to be responsible for MANY problems on my
 system including all-out crashes (without so much as an OOPS!)
 
I wish I could :(
I have an Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard...
in fatc that Soundcard is a good amount of why I finnaly
decided to stop running linux onm my server and WIn95 on my Workstation
and just go completely linux...
cuz AudioPC DOs Mode drivers are incompatible with the AMD K6
processor (fixed in a letter processor stepping)
which means I oculdn't play Quake :( 
(eventually I will get a new soundcard but...I have other priorities)
 ...patiently waiting for ALSA.
Whats ALSA?

- -Steve


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