shellscripts para todos

1998-04-30 Thread David Manuel Cabal Ines
Tengo un problema que no acabo de entender pero que me temo que tiene una
facil solucion, pero yo me he quedado atascado y no se me ocurre nada mas.
El problema es el siguiente: tengo dos usuarios en mi linux, el root y uno
para trabajar. El problema es que si no arranco como root para hacer el
mount no puedo trabajar. El principal problema es que en mi usuario
ejecuta muy bien los shellscripts, pero en el root no los ejecuta si no le
pongo bash delante. Los dos tienen el bash como shell y me temo que la
unica diferencia es el bash_profile pero una vez que se me ocurrio copiar
el profile del de trabajo en el root no me dejo volver a entrar como root
y tuve que reinstalar. Asi que agradeceria cualquier tipo de ayuda,
tambien agradeceria mucho si me indican alguna forma de hacer que el
usuario pueda hacer el mount ya que el man del super no hay quien lo
entienda...

Muchas gracias por anticipado,

Delfar

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puertos serie???

1998-04-30 Thread R.Ll.V
Hola :
Este es mi primer mensaje a la lista un saludo a todos
He isnrtalado devian y puesta a fincionar las x ayer, no esta mal
Priemr problema : no tengo puesrtos series /dev/cua... ninguno. ¿se llaman
de otra manera, hay que hacerlos . He estado hasta las cuatro AM con esto y
el lilo. El lilo lo he instalado pero sin puertos serie ni modem ni
conexion.!!Ayuda!!

PD: ¿Hay en la distribucion al gun programa gestor de archivos grafico como
el  xfm que viene con la slak, o algo parecido. Si lo hay porfa me pasais el
nombre del paquete.
Seguiremos en contacto ;-) Un saludo y gracias
Ricardo
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FW: Problemas locale - Xlib

1998-04-30 Thread M. Pascual
Hola:

Siguen los problemas con el paso de libc5 a libc6. Tengo las siguientes
librerias instaladas:

locales_2.0.7pre1-4.deb - Xlib6_3.3-6.deb - Xlib6-altdev - Xlib6g_3.3-6.deb -
Xlib6g-dev

Y cuando inento ejecutar algun cliente de X, como por ejemplo xedit me suelta
el siguiente error y no me ejecuta el programa:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ xedit 
[1] 15972
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged
Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
 
Tambien me sucede con el netscape, como ya comente en otro mensaje (debe ser
dificil el problema porque no he obtenido respuesta alguna).

Sabeis si es algun error conocido (creo que no sera eso), en caso contrario que
me falta, que he hecho mal en la transicion; comentar que los problemas
aparecieron al actualizar las Xlib (eso creo, aunque no estoy seguro, pero
antes habia hecho una transicion minima de libc5 a libc6 (lo que decia el mini
howto y no tuve esos problemas)).

El resto del sistema funciona perfectamente, asi como las X con KDE-beta4.

Se agradeceran las soluciones y/o comentarios.

Salu2t's.
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Re: shellscripts para todos

1998-04-30 Thread Alberto F. Hamilton Castro
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, David Manuel Cabal Ines wrote:

 ...
 y tuve que reinstalar. Asi que agradeceria cualquier tipo de ayuda,
 tambien agradeceria mucho si me indican alguna forma de hacer que el
 usuario pueda hacer el mount ya que el man del super no hay quien lo
 entienda...
 

  Esto se puede lograr con opciones del 'mount' que se especifican en el
fichero /etc/fstab. En mi caso, algunas líneas este fichero son: 

#particiones de msdos en el disco duro
/dev/hda1   /dosc   msdos   rw,noauto,user
/dev/hda5   /dosd   msdos   rw,noauto,user

Las opciones finales significan:
  user  cualquier usuario la pueden montar
  noautoNo se monta al arrancar sino explícitamente con mount
  (para que los usuarios tengan permisos)
  rwEl que la monta puede leer y escribir (ficheros a su nombre)

#para las disqueteras
/dev/fd0/A  autorw,noauto,user
/dev/fd1/B  autorw,noauto,user

Es lo mismo pero con el tipo de sistemas de fichero 'auto' con lo cual
trata de adivinar si es un disquete 'msdos' o 'minix'.

Más opciones en la página de manual del 'mount'


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Re: debian de la revista, y libro Utilizando Linux de Prentice Hal

1998-04-30 Thread Manuel Suarez Calafell
 gracias anticipadas!

sigo con problemas con mi conexiónuso Infovia, dos discos duros, Pentium 233, 32
Mb, uss robotics 33,600 y placa red 3 com.
En un disco duro la partición FAT32 para W95
en el otro
las dos particiones para Linux y una para intercambiar ficheros con dos


* en /etc/ppp.chatscrip
cambie la línea  ATDT por
 ATDT055

* en /etc/ppp.options
añadi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
y he probado dejandolo a continuación de la línea que había de origen
y tambien dejandolo con 2 lineas

* en /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
he añadido
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   * (mi pasword de conexion a ctv)

* con estas modificaciones sigo sin poder activar el telnet y el minicom me 
sigue
dando señal de que estoy conectado pero no de deja hacer nada.

* como puedo ejecutar pon?

* los datos que tengo en /etc/hosts son la direccion que me ha facilitado ctv, y
man es el nombre que le puse a Linux cuando la configure.

* que fichero debo editar? o que comando debo activar? para darles 
autorizaciones
a los usuarios de Linux ( en este caso para que yo pueda trabajar como usuario y
no como root).

* como hago para bajar el núcleo con la versión actual de Debian?

* de donde recojo instrucciones actuales para compilar el núcleo nuevo?


  tengo varios problemas con mi conexion y a pesar del libro del subject y
  todos los que he encontrado en librerias de Madrid y lo que leo en HOWTO
  y listas de correo no consigo solventar los siguientes problemas:
  :)
 
  a) le doy a minicom los parametros de mi conexion a ctv  y
  me arranca, el modem hace la musiquilla y  me da el mensaje:
 connect 33600/ARQpero.. me queda la pantalla que no puedo
  escribir nada
  si intento hacer un telnet desde otra pantalla me dice que es
  unreasable
  (o algo asi).
  si ya estoy conectado... como hago el ftp?
  esto arrancando desde root
  Si intento arrancar desde usuario me dice:
  cannot open /dev/ttyS1: permission denied
 Vamos a ver. Estoy suponiendo que usas Infovía.

 Lo que tienes es que editar el /etc/ppp.chatscript
 Edita la línea
  ATDT... a  ATDT055

 y borra el resto.

 En /etc/ppp.options_out añade:
 user [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 (Todo tiene que estar en una línea)

 Por último, añade tu clave y usuario a
 /etc/ppp/pap-secrets:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * tu_clave

 ¡Ah! y para arrancar el ppp, ejecuta pon como superusuario.
  * en /etc/hosts tengo:
 127.0.0.1 localhost
 194.179.86.53   man 194.179.86.53  man
 ¿Esta dirección de IP es fija? ¿Es tu máquina man?
 El ppp normalmente es el que cambia la ruta.

  * netstat -ry route
 DestinationGatewayfenneskFlags mss   window   irtf
  Iface
127.0.0.0*   255.0.0.0  U   3584
  0   0lo
 

  b)  No consigo encontrar la forma de autorizar a los usuarios
   ejemplo:
   el user manuel si intento usar el editor:
  joe manuel
   me entra con la leyenda read only
 Eso depende del fichero que edites. Tienes que mirar quién es el dueño y que
 derechos tienes como usuario manuel.

   c) si entro en dos me entra en un c:\ que no entiendo
 como hago para ir a la partición de 16 bits hdb1?o a las
  hdb5 o
  hdb6?
 puedo ver desde linux la partición de w95 de 32 bits?
 No estoy seguro de a qué llamas entro en dos. Las particiones tienes que
 montarlas. Así suponiendo que quieras montarlas en un directorio /dos (que
 tienes que crear primero) das
 mount -t /dev/hdb5 /dos -t vfat

 Las particiones FAT32 no se pueden leer con el núcleo estandard. Hay que usar
 un parche. El núcleo que viene con la nueva versión de Debian que esta en
 fase de congelación de código si puede pero el que tienes tú seguramente no.
 Tienes que compilar un núcleo nuevo.

 Luis.
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Re: shellscripts para todos

1998-04-30 Thread Jaime E. Villate
David Manuel Cabal Ines wrote:
 
 ...El problema es que si no arranco como root para hacer el
 mount no puedo trabajar. El principal problema es que en mi usuario
 ejecuta muy bien los shellscripts, pero en el root no los ejecuta si no le
 pongo bash delante...tambien agradeceria mucho si me indican alguna forma
 de hacer que el usuario pueda hacer el mount ya que el man del super no
 hay quien lo entienda...

Me parece que tu problema se refiere a lo siguiente (si ya sabias esto y
no era ese tu problema, disculpame):
El superusuario normalmente no tiene el directorio actual (.) definido en
el path, por motivos de seguridad, y conviene dejarlo asi; lo unico que tienes
que hacer es acostumbrarte a escribir
./nombre-de-tu-script
para ejecutar tu script, en vez de solo nombre-de-tu-script.

Con el mount es algo semejante. Por razones de seguridad, conviene dejar
que solo el superusuario pueda montar cualquier dispositivo. Si entraste
como otro usuario y quieres montar algo, de cualquier forma puedes hacer:
   su password-de-root
   mount lo-que-sea
   exit
asi tienes algun tiempo extra para asegurarte que no metes la pata.
Si no quieres perder tanto tiempo cuando montas por ejemplo un diskette,
o una particion que usas con frecuencia, incluye en el archivo /etc/fstab
una linea como por ejemplo la siguiente:

/dev/fd0/floppy vfatdefaults,noauto,user0   0

Asi cualquier usuario puede montar y desmontar el diskette (en un directorio
/floppy que hallas creado) por medio de:
  mount /floppy

Si usas diskettes con varios formatos, fuera del vfat, puedes poner otras
lineas, cambiando el vfat y el nombre del directorio.

Saludos,

Jaime Villate http://quark.fe.up.pt
Universidade do Porto


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Re: puertos serie???

1998-04-30 Thread karris


Pablo Sendin Ranha - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Monte Perdido Cuvi - etset - Universidade de Vigo
Asako Arroto, e as suas cinzas. 
  
  

Aun a pesar de cometer una soberana estupidez, creo que los puertos serie
COM1 y COM2 son /dev/ttyS0 y /dev/ttyS1. Por lo menos el raton va en uno
de esos.
Abur.


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, R.Ll.V wrote:

 Hola :
 Este es mi primer mensaje a la lista un saludo a todos
 He isnrtalado devian y puesta a fincionar las x ayer, no esta mal
 Priemr problema : no tengo puesrtos series /dev/cua... ninguno. ¿se llaman
 de otra manera, hay que hacerlos . He estado hasta las cuatro AM con esto y
 el lilo. El lilo lo he instalado pero sin puertos serie ni modem ni
 conexion.!!Ayuda!!
 
 PD: ¿Hay en la distribucion al gun programa gestor de archivos grafico como
 el  xfm que viene con la slak, o algo parecido. Si lo hay porfa me pasais el
 nombre del paquete.
 Seguiremos en contacto ;-) Un saludo y gracias
 Ricardo
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Re: debian de la revista, y libro Utilizando Linux de Prentice Hal

1998-04-30 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
  gracias anticipadas!
 
 sigo con problemas con mi conexiónuso Infovia, dos discos duros, Pentium 233, 
 32
 Mb, uss robotics 33,600 y placa red 3 com.
 En un disco duro la partición FAT32 para W95
 en el otro
 las dos particiones para Linux y una para intercambiar ficheros con dos
 
 
 * en /etc/ppp.chatscrip
 cambie la línea  ATDT por
  ATDT055
 
 * en /etc/ppp.options
 añadi
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 y he probado dejandolo a continuación de la línea que había de origen
 y tambien dejandolo con 2 lineas
Tiene que ser user [EMAIL PROTECTED] y *todo* en una línea.

 
 * en /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
 he añadido
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   * (mi pasword de conexion a ctv)
 
 * con estas modificaciones sigo sin poder activar el telnet y el minicom me 
 sigue
 dando señal de que estoy conectado pero no de deja hacer nada.
No sigas probando con minicom. No va a cambiar. El telnet te funcionará cuando
uses pon.

 * como puedo ejecutar pon?
Como root ejecuta /usr/bin/pon

 * los datos que tengo en /etc/hosts son la direccion que me ha facilitado 
 ctv, y
 man es el nombre que le puse a Linux cuando la configure.
En ese caso puedes dejar el /etc/hosts como está. De todas maneras que sepas
que sólo tu máquina sabe que se llama man a menos que ctv te añada el nombre a
su servidor de nombres.

 * que fichero debo editar? o que comando debo activar? para darles 
 autorizaciones
 a los usuarios de Linux ( en este caso para que yo pueda trabajar como 
 usuario y
 no como root).
Esto es más complicadillo. Para usar telnet, ftp, etc. no tienes que hacer
nada, pero para conectarte necesitas ser root. Creo que si añades tu nombre
de usuario al grupo dip valdrá también pero no lo he probado.

 * como hago para bajar el núcleo con la versión actual de Debian?
Una vez conectado, usa ftp y traete el núcleo tal cual. Luego con el paquete
kernel-package puedes construirte un fichero deb con un núcleo que compiles
tú mismo.

 * de donde recojo instrucciones actuales para compilar el núcleo nuevo?
En el paquete que te decía antes, en las instrucciones
(/usr/doc/kernel-package)

Luis.
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Re: Ayuda con tarjeta grafica.

1998-04-30 Thread gustavo
Queriendo mejorar los gráficos, le hice caso a los de la tienda y
compré una ATI-3D Charger (el procesador creo que es un Rage II +
DVD, si no recuerdo mal). Pero no consigo configurar el XF86Config
por más que lo intento de mil formas, con el XF86Setup, con el
xf86config, retocando directamente los resultados de los
anteriores...

Para empezar, la educación ante todo SALUDOS.

El problema que tienes (creo) es que las Xfree que trae la
distribución de Debian que tienes instalada no soporta ese chip.
Yo tuve el mismo problema (con ese mismo chip) y lo solucioné
actualizándome a una versión más reciente de las Xfree.
En  http://www.xfree86.org/  encontrarás lo necesario para
actualizarte, en el fichero RELNOTES viene explicado claramente los
ficheros que necesitas y los pasos a dar para la actualización.

Espero que te sirva de ayuda.


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Re: Ayuda con tarjeta grafica.

1998-04-30 Thread Jaime E. Villate
Antonio Vieiro Varela wrote:
 
 Queriendo mejorar los gráficos, le hice caso a los de la tienda y compré
 una ATI-3D Charger (el procesador creo que es un Rage II + DVD, si no
 recuerdo mal). Pero no consigo configurar el XF86Config por más que lo
 intento de mil formas, con el XF86Setup, con el xf86config, retocando
 directamente los resultados de los anteriores...

La ATI 3D Rage II aparece entre la lista de tarjetas admitidas por
XF86_Mach64 o sea que tienes que instalar el paquete xserver-mach64.
Dale un vistazo a /usr/doc/x11/README.Mach64
Buena suerte,

Jaime Villate
Universidade do Porto


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Re: Ayuda con tarjeta grafica.

1998-04-30 Thread Antonio Vieiro Varela
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Jaime E. Villate wrote:

 Antonio Vieiro Varela wrote:
  
  Queriendo mejorar los gráficos, le hice caso a los de la tienda y compré
  una ATI-3D Charger (el procesador creo que es un Rage II + DVD, si no
  recuerdo mal). Pero no consigo configurar el XF86Config por más que lo
  intento de mil formas, con el XF86Setup, con el xf86config, retocando
  directamente los resultados de los anteriores...
 
 La ATI 3D Rage II aparece entre la lista de tarjetas admitidas por
 XF86_Mach64 o sea que tienes que instalar el paquete xserver-mach64.
 Dale un vistazo a /usr/doc/x11/README.Mach64
 Buena suerte,

  Bueno, realmente yo no dije eso que tú dices que dije ;^)

  Ya me gustaría a mí tener una tarjeta de ésas, ya...

  Un saludo,
  Antonio


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Re: xdm, startx y kdm.

1998-04-30 Thread Juan Carlos Muro
Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote:

 Juan Carlos Muro decía:
  Hola.
  Queria hacer una pregunta que me llevo haciendo desde hace ya tiempo.
  Estos dias me ha dado por hacer arrancar las X windows con xdm. La duda
  es : ¿En que archivo le digo que gestor de ventanas tiene que arrancar y
 /etc/X11/window-managers
 Va a arrancar el primero.

  los terminales, xclock y todo eso? Es decir, el .xinitrc de 'startx'.
  Siguiendo la pista, veo que en '/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config' aparece :
 
  DisplayManager*setup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup
  DisplayManager*startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup
  DisplayManager*reset:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xreset

No sera que pone antes Xreset que Xsession? Pero bueno, eso venia asi con la
instalacion, asi que me extraña.

  DisplayManager*session:  /etc/X11/Xsession
 
  /etc/X11/Xsession no existe. ¿Puede ser esto?
 Este fichero es parte de xbase y debería estar.
 Para ejecutar el ~/.xsession, mira a ver si está habilitado en el
 /etc/X11/config con la opción allow-user-xsession.

Lo tengo habilitado. Veras :

allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession
start-xdm
xdm-start-server

Eso es lo que tengo en /etc/X11/config. En ~/.xsession (con permiso de
ejecucion) tengo:

kfm 
kcontrol -init 
kbgndwm 
krootwm 
kpanel 

Y en /etc/X11/window-managers :

/opt/kde/bin/kwm
/usr/X11R6/bin/afterstep
/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2
/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm

El resultado es que al arrancar con 'kdm', me aparece la pantalla de colorines
que trae Debian par el xdm, Aparece tambien una ventanitta con botones que
trae el KDE y ahi selecciono al root. Pongo su password. A partir de ahi se
pone la pantalla en negro y vuelve a reiniciar el xdm. Pero nada de gestor de
ventanas. El otro dia por lo menos me aparecia algo.  Dando login de un
usuario, me ocurre lo mismo.

 ¿El Xsession? Yo te lo mando si quieres aunque deberías ver que pasa con tu
 paquete xbase que no lo tiene.

Nada, nada, que si que lo tengo. Me he dado cuenta de que no esta donde yo lo
buscaba (/etc/X11/xdm) sino en '/etc/X11'. Pero gracias por todas formas ;-)


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alien y dpkg

1998-04-30 Thread R.Ll.V
Hola:
He convertido el Netscape comunicator en rpm a formato dev lo he instalado y
al parecer sin problemas, todo parece estar donde deve. Pero al ejecutarlo
me dice que no está instalado incluso en el propio directorio /usr/bin

Alguien sabe donde la meto, gracias
un saludo y gracias por al celeridad de las respuestas de la mañana
Un saludo
Ricardo
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Re: Ayuda con tarjeta grafica.

1998-04-30 Thread Jose M. Bello Dieguez
At 19:22 29/04/98 +0200, Antonio Vieiro Varela wrote:
  El servidor X11 de Linux, el que viene en todas las distribuciones,
  se llama XFree. Claro, hay tantas tarjetas que, en vez de hacer
  un único programa muy grande hay muchos programas más pequeños.

  Algunos de estos programas funcionan sólo con VGA, otros son 
  específicos para algunas tarjetas. Lógicamente debes instalar el
  servidor que se adecúe a tu tarjeta. Lamento no poder ayudarte en
  ese sentido (no sé qué servidor te toca). Supongo que en /usr/doc/XFree
  (o algo así) tendrás una lista de tarjetas soportadas y del programa
  que sirve para cada una.


Gracias, Antonio, efectivamente es como dices :-) El servidor correcto me
lo indicó Ignacio y me lo bajé de una web de SUSE; fue a la primera
simplemente con el xf86config, sin necesidad de mayores ayudas. 

  Una vez tengas el servidor correctamente instalado ya puedes dedicarte
  a modificar el XF86Config (con cualquiera de los programas disponibles).


Ya no hizo falta, entró a la primera (bueno, lo modifiqué para probar los
colores con 16 y 24 bits, fundamentalmente por jugar). El problema era
tener el servidor correcto, efectivamente.

Gracias, y saludos :-)

JM



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Re: puertos serie???

1998-04-30 Thread Felipe Sanchez


R.Ll.V escribió:[...]

 Priemr problema : no tengo puesrtos series /dev/cua... ninguno. ?se llaman
 de otra manera, hay que hacerlos . He estado hasta las cuatro AM con esto y
 el lilo. El lilo lo he instalado pero sin puertos serie ni modem ni

[...]

Hola.

Yo tuve el mismo problema hace un tiempo, pero según me indicaron algunos
colisteros, los /dev/cuaX estan obsoletos, en su lugar tienes que usar los
/dev/ttySX como puertos seriales de entrada y salida.

Saludos.

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Re: FW: Problemas locale - Xlib

1998-04-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 10:39:39AM +0200, M. Pascual wrote:

 Siguen los problemas con el paso de libc5 a libc6. Tengo las siguientes
 librerias instaladas:
 
 locales_2.0.7pre1-4.deb - Xlib6_3.3-6.deb - Xlib6-altdev - Xlib6g_3.3-6.deb -
 Xlib6g-dev

para Netscape (debe ser el mismo problema puesto que las dos pajas son
motif), tienes:

Versions of the packages netscape4 depends on:
motifnlsVersion: 2.1-1.1
ldsoVersion: 1.9.7-1
libc5   Version: 5.4.38-1
libc6   Version: 2.0.7pre1-4
libg++27Version: 2.7.2.1-14.2
xlib6   Version: 3.3.2-3
xpm4.7  Version: 3.4j-0.6

creo que el problema viene de motifnls, que es la cosa que las aplicaciones
de motif usan para manejar los locales... si necesitas más ayuda pregunta,
pero esto tiene que estar documentado en los archivos de la lista
debian-user, pues lo han preguntado el chorro de veces antes.


Marcelo

PS: No existe todavía un archivo de debian-user-spanish, ¿o sí? Voy a
escribir nuevamente a los encargados, pues parece que la última vez no me
entendieron...


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¡Estamos archivados!

1998-04-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Si estamos archivados, no lo había visto porque estamos al
final... en Others :-) Los archivos comienzan en abril de este
año, pero peor es nada.

Nuestro URL:

http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-spanish-9804/
 
 Esto es
obviamente el año y el mes.

¡Salud!

Marcelo


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Re: Alternative to MS Frontpage web design?

1998-04-30 Thread tony mollica
Hi.  Here's something that works with Linux, but is not 
nearly as easy to use or with as many features as frontpage.
It does the job, though.

http://www.w3.org/Amaya


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Re: Alternative to MS Frontpage web design?

1998-04-30 Thread Travis Cole
You may want to try Netscape Composer.  It comes with
Netscape Communicator. 
We use it here at WWU for a ton of stuff.  Unfortunatly we 
use the Win95 version.

I think the Linux version works pretty well, although I haven't
played with it for a while.  Vi is my HTML composer of choice.

-- 
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Compare the performance: Buy the most expensive Sun box you can and 
compare its Web performance to an inexpensive Windows NT box. 
Let's not joke around: Pentium Pro processors have more performance 
than the RISC community is putting out. I'm not talking about 
price/performance; I'm talking about performance in the absolute. 
-Bill Gates  March 1996 interview with InfoWorld


On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 06:43:36PM -0400, Alain Toussaint wrote:
 i'll try to find something tonight,there is some utility for doing the
 stuff you describe here (though i'm not sure about the DHTML thingie).
 
 Alain (who did his last night searching program and d/l documents).
 

snip

  I really don't have the time or the patience to write all the HTML codes,
  so
  I would like a decent web designing package that I can use in linux. Please
  could I have some recommendations/suggestions of such a package, commercial
  or not...
  
  Thanks,
  
  Tristan


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/dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Bob Nielsen
I have /dev/ttyS0 shown as belonging to group dialout and have added my
username to the dialout group, but I get 

cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied

errors with both minicom and efax.  I'd rather not run these as root.  

Did I miss something?

Bob


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TCP/IP Network +WIN95

1998-04-30 Thread Florian Attenberger
I have a local network that consists of 2 win95 and 1 debian box.
The debian box has an isdn connection to the Internet.
There is one Problem:
The win95 boxes make the debian box dial exactly dial every 5 minutes,
each. This is getting very expensive.

Is there a possibility to get win95 to NOT doing this thing every 5
minutes

How could i make i little script for win95 to do manual dialup remotely,
only when needed, if the above isn't possible???



Thanx very much,

Florian Attenberger




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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Did you check 'ls -l /dev/ttyS0' to make sure the group ownership on the file is
not 'dip' rather than 'dialout' (although I think it should be dialout on my
system, debian 1.3.1, it was set up as group dip).

Bob Nielsen wrote:

 I have /dev/ttyS0 shown as belonging to group dialout and have added my
 username to the dialout group, but I get

 cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied

 errors with both minicom and efax.  I'd rather not run these as root.

 Did I miss something?

 Bob

 
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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Also, if you changed /etc/group which you were logged in you need to log in
afresh in order for the group addition to take affect.

Bob Nielsen wrote:

 I have /dev/ttyS0 shown as belonging to group dialout and have added my
 username to the dialout group, but I get

 cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied

 errors with both minicom and efax.  I'd rather not run these as root.

 Did I miss something?

 Bob

 
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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Bob Hilliard
 /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
/dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
abnormally, and perhaps by other events.

Bob
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DNS/Non-authoritative answer trouble

1998-04-30 Thread Paul Miller

When I use nslookup to resolve my DNS name, it gives a 'Non-authoritative
answer'..  How can I fix this?  Below is the relevant named configuration
(I'm using the lasted BIND from Debian/hamm+unstable): 

--begin---
; name resolution for 3dillusion.com

@   IN  SOA ns.3dillusion.com. root.3dillusion.com. (
1998042903  ; serial (ccyymmddxx)
86400   ; refresh = 1 day
1800; retry = 1/2 hour
2592000 ; expire = 30 days
86400   ; minimum = 1 day
)
IN  NS  ns.3dillusion.com.

; domain 3dillusion.com

@   IN  A   198.109.162.43
IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
IN  HINFO   i586Linux

; server

serv1   IN  A   198.109.162.43
serv1   IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
serv1   IN  HINFO   i586Linux
server  IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.

; primary name server

ns  IN  A   198.109.162.43
ns  IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
nameserver  IN  CNAME   ns.3dillusion.com.

; mail server

mailIN  A   198.109.162.43
mailIN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
postoffice  IN  CNAME   mail.3dillusion.com.

; other hosts

ftp IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
www IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
---eof-

I don't ever remember this being a problem before.  The SOA record looks
correct to me..  Has anything changed with the recent versions of BIND?

Thanks
-Paul


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Quota on Mail systems

1998-04-30 Thread Chris

Hi.

I am trying to implement quotas on the mail system of my debian linux
server.  I have configured the quota system so that users have a quota on
/var/spool.

This quota works fine and enforces the limit correctly when a user
attempts to put any files in that filesystem via the shell - but when a
user recieves mail it is placed into their mail file - regardless of their
disk quota.  So affectively the mail system is quotaless.

Can anybody explain this behaviour and perhaps suggest how I may correct
this??

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: Printing from windows

1998-04-30 Thread Will Lowe
 Editing the file is cheating so you've shown nothing. I can delete the back 
 half of a
 jpeg and 'file' will still say the file is a jpeg. Besides which fact 'file' 
 and
 magicfilter do not share the same magic info which identifies files.
Nononono.  The _front_ end of the file (which I've determined is a PJL
file) has a whole mess of control-@ characters.  If you delete them,  then
the magic identifiers used (most involve some variation on EscPJL) are
visible.  Otherwise they're too far into the file (around 255 bytes) for
magic or file to find them,  and so they both think they're text
files.

This DOES work:
1) make some windows thing (ie. MS Word) print to a file
2) ftp the file to the linux host in BINARY mode
3) killoff lpd
4) become user lp
5) do cat filename  /dev/lp1

it prints just fine this way (even with all the crazy control characters
at the front).  

But the default magicfilter option for text files is to run them through  
djscript,  and they don't print right that way.  Is there any way (other
than having a 255-character string in /etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter) to
get magic to recognize this as a weird form of PJL and just cat it?

Will

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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 08:40:35PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
  /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
 /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
 abnormally, and perhaps by other events.

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  heh

Sounds like a bug to file against pppd if not already there, yes?


pgpoERyJOborb.pgp
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ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

1998-04-30 Thread Stephen Carpenter
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I got my SCSI tape drive and I installed a SCSI card I had lying around
unfortunatly it didn't work :(
I THINK the problem may be the controller...
I get the messages:
aha152x: processing commandline: ok
aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled,
parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended
translation=disabled
aha152x: trying software interrupt, lost.
aha152x: IRQ 9 possibly wrong.  Please verify.
- ---
I have tried IRQ 11 with the same effect...then it is...
scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
scsi : 1 host.
scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 
- --- repeated for id 0 - 6
The SCSI card is from a ZIP SCSI drive (I got it for free from omeone
who already had a SCSI card and installed a ZIP)
It calls itself (written on the board) an 
Adaptec AVA-1502
the Tape drive apears to be (jumpers) SCSI ID 4, Parity on, Termination
power on 
Any ideas? should I just forget it asnd buy a new adapter?
I recompiled my kernel...turned on SCSI supoert and
all of the Adaptec Drivers ...I am running Kernel 2.0.29
(on a hamm system but I doubt that matters)
I read the SCSI-HOWTO...but it was of no help :(
- -Steve


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iBCS compiling

1998-04-30 Thread Steve Izma
I'm trying to compile iBCS for kernel 2.0.30. I've gotten the
source code tar file: ibcs_970212.orig.tar from the August 1997
Info Magic disks. The code compiles easily enough and installs.
Using insmod iBCS does not produce a kernel mis-match, but the
loading fails with:

/lib/modules/misc/iBCS: unresolved symbol apic_reg

I can't find any reference to this symbol in the .c or .h files
among the source. It sounds like this version of iBCS depends on
the installation of another module but I can't find any
indication of what that should be.

Has anyone know how to deal with this problem?

Also, is there a way of using the binary of iBCS that is supplied
with any particular debian release with kernel versions other
than the one that comes in that release?

Thanks,

--Steve Izma, Wilfrid Laurier University Press
Waterloo, Ont., Canada N2L 3C5
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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 08:40:35PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
   /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
  /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
  abnormally, and perhaps by other events.
 
 I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  heh
 
 Sounds like a bug to file against pppd if not already there, yes?
 

Yes, it had 640 permissions.  Sounds like a bug to me also.  Thanks to all
who responded for the suggestions.

Bob


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display postscript

1998-04-30 Thread David B Wilson
Is there any sort of display postscript support in Linux?
David


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Off Topic: Toddler property laws - Humor

1998-04-30 Thread George R
Forwarded from:  HENRY L. BUNCH,FIC([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Toddler Property Laws


 1. If I like it, it's mine.

 2. If it's in my hand, it's mine.

 3. If I can take it from you, it's mine.

 4. If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.

 5. If it's mine, it must never appear to be yours in any way.

 6. If I'm doing or building something, all the pieces are mine. 

 7. If it looks just like mine, it's mine.

 8. If I think it's mine, it's mine.

 9. If it's yours and I steal it, it's mine.

10. If I ... Whoops! Sorry! I goofed! Instead of reading the Toddle 
Property
Laws, I've been reading Microsoft's Business Plan.



I thought you may find this funny.

Skip
 

reply to:
grimel
@icx   Sorry for the trouble, I'm just getting to much spam.

.net




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Re: Quota on Mail systems

1998-04-30 Thread Pete's mailing list account

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:

 This quota works fine and enforces the limit correctly when a user
 attempts to put any files in that filesystem via the shell - but when a
 user recieves mail it is placed into their mail file - regardless of their
 disk quota.  So affectively the mail system is quotaless.

Chris,

It's actually a linux kernel bug crawling through your system at
this very moment.  Whatever program puts mail into mailboxes is doing so
as root and then chown's the mailbox back to the original owner.  This
process doesn't slam into quotas the way that it should, unless you're
lucky like me and are using procmail as your local delivery agent, in
which case users experienced bounced mail as soon as they go over
softquota.

I believe a kernel bug is open regarding this, but I wouldn't hold
your breath about it.

--Pete




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Re: [SOLVED] DNS/Non-authoritative answer trouble

1998-04-30 Thread Paul Miller

I figured it out with a little playing around..  I guess BIND has gotten a
little more strict with its format because I never had this problem
before.  Oh well, it's fixed now.

-Paul

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 
 When I use nslookup to resolve my DNS name, it gives a 'Non-authoritative
 answer'..  How can I fix this?  Below is the relevant named configuration
 (I'm using the lasted BIND from Debian/hamm+unstable): 
 
 --begin---
 ; name resolution for 3dillusion.com
 
 @ IN  SOA ns.3dillusion.com. root.3dillusion.com. (

^^ changed to 3dillusion.com.

   1998042903  ; serial (ccyymmddxx)
   86400   ; refresh = 1 day
   1800; retry = 1/2 hour
   2592000 ; expire = 30 days
   86400   ; minimum = 1 day
 )
   IN  NS  ns.3dillusion.com.
 
 ; domain 3dillusion.com
 
 @ IN  A   198.109.162.43

^ @ removed

   IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
   IN  HINFO   i586Linux
 
 ; server
 
 serv1 IN  A   198.109.162.43
 serv1 IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
 serv1 IN  HINFO   i586Linux
 serverIN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
 
 ; primary name server
 
 nsIN  A   198.109.162.43
 nsIN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
 nameserverIN  CNAME   ns.3dillusion.com.
 
 ; mail server
 
 mail  IN  A   198.109.162.43
 mail  IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
 postofficeIN  CNAME   mail.3dillusion.com.
 
 ; other hosts
 
 ftp   IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
 www   IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
 ---eof-
 
 I don't ever remember this being a problem before.  The SOA record looks
 correct to me..  Has anything changed with the recent versions of BIND?
 
 Thanks
 -Paul
 
 
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Re: Quota on Mail systems

1998-04-30 Thread Paul Miller
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Pete's mailing list account wrote:

 
 On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:
 
  This quota works fine and enforces the limit correctly when a user
  attempts to put any files in that filesystem via the shell - but when a
  user recieves mail it is placed into their mail file - regardless of their
  disk quota.  So affectively the mail system is quotaless.
 
 Chris,
 
   It's actually a linux kernel bug crawling through your system at
 this very moment.  Whatever program puts mail into mailboxes is doing so
 as root and then chown's the mailbox back to the original owner.  This
 process doesn't slam into quotas the way that it should, unless you're
 lucky like me and are using procmail as your local delivery agent, in
 which case users experienced bounced mail as soon as they go over
 softquota.
 
   I believe a kernel bug is open regarding this, but I wouldn't hold
 your breath about it.
 
 --Pete


How is it a kernel bug? .. If the program is suid'd to run a root,
shouldn't it assume the root's quota (none) instead of the user's?  To me
it sounds like a MTA bug..  QMail works just fine for me..

-Paul


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Re: Debian Linux and W95 coexist?

1998-04-30 Thread shaul
/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Partition.gz could be helpful (attached to your email).

 -- [ From: Herb Howe * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] --
 
 Just received Debian Linux on the LSL CD which will be used on a shared
 Pentium which already has Windows 95 installed. The installation
 instructions look straight forward with one exception. It is not clear
 whether the installation routine is designed to overwrite what is
 already on the hard disk or if only the unused part of the disk will be
 used. Could someone please point me to a discussion of this and/or more
 basic information about disk partitioning? This must be an elementary
 question but is not apparent in the FAQs.



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Re: display postscript

1998-04-30 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi David B Wilson; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 Is there any sort of display postscript support in Linux?
 David

Maybe ghostview_*.deb or gv_*.deb?

Regards
DamirN


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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Bob Hilliard
Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
  /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
  abnormally, and perhaps by other events.
 
 I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  heh
 
 Sounds like a bug to file against pppd if not already there, yes?

 I don't think so.  When it starts, pppd mopdifies the permissions,
and resets them when it exits.  If it is stopped with a kill -9, which
is what I did to test this, it has no chance to clean up.  If anything,
its a bug against the user (me) who sent the kill -9.

Bob
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Re: lib problem with netscape 4.05

1998-04-30 Thread deniz
Hi,

 Noah == Noah L Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Noah -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 29 Apr 1998
Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$/usr/local/netscape/netscape
 /usr/local/netscape/netscape: can't load library 'libXt.so.6'
 

Noah Try # setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/X11R6/lib (if using
Noah csh/tcsh) or # export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib (if
Noah using bash/sh/ksh(?))

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$/usr/local/netscape/netscape  
/usr/local/netscape/netscape: can't load library 'libc.so.5'

I`ll install libc5 as Alex Yukhimets suggested.

Thanks both of you.

Deniz Dogan


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Re: TCP/IP Network +WIN95

1998-04-30 Thread Stephen Carpenter
I dunno what to tell you about the Win95 boxes and dialing every 5 mins :(
I used to do it this way:
I had a linux server with no monitor (oh sure its a minor detail...
until you need to reboot it and find out hours later there was
a bootable CD in the CD drive (but I digress))
I would telnet to the linux machine and run pppd 
if you don't know what is causing the dialing (win95 must be looking for
osmething weird)
then its not easy to stop it...
you could run a network sniffer and watch for what happens every 5 mins...
are the win95 machines running anything weird like D4time (a time
syncronizer)?
maybe it is a problem with it using TCP/IP...you could try
telling the WIndoze machines to use a differnt default protocol...
hmm...
are you sure the windows machines are doing it?
have you run with all of the winDOS machines off and seen
if it still does it?
wish  could help more...hopefully some of this will lead you on the right
track
-Steve


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Florian Attenberger wrote:

 I have a local network that consists of 2 win95 and 1 debian box.
 The debian box has an isdn connection to the Internet.
 There is one Problem:
 The win95 boxes make the debian box dial exactly dial every 5 minutes,
 each. This is getting very expensive.
 
 Is there a possibility to get win95 to NOT doing this thing every 5
 minutes
 
 How could i make i little script for win95 to do manual dialup remotely,
 only when needed, if the above isn't possible???
 
 
 
 Thanx very much,
 
 Florian Attenberger
 
 
 
 
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Re: TCP/IP Network +WIN95

1998-04-30 Thread Lee Bradshaw
You could try running tcpdump to see which packets are causing the
dialing.  If you can make all the machines idle, there shouldn't be too
much traffic.  I would guess the packets are from netbios ports on the
windows machine to the DNS port on you DNS server.  I had to block ports
137-139 for both TCP and UDP traffic on my router.  I think windows may
only use 137/tcp, 138/tcp and 139/udp, but I blocked all six of the
combinations to make sure.  

On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 01:46:11AM +0200, Florian Attenberger wrote:
 I have a local network that consists of 2 win95 and 1 debian box.
 The debian box has an isdn connection to the Internet.
 There is one Problem:
 The win95 boxes make the debian box dial exactly dial every 5 minutes,
 each. This is getting very expensive.
 
 Is there a possibility to get win95 to NOT doing this thing every 5
 minutes
 
 How could i make i little script for win95 to do manual dialup remotely,
 only when needed, if the above isn't possible???

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Re: lib problem with netscape 4.05

1998-04-30 Thread deniz
Hi,

 Alex ==   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance.

Alex Install xlib6 (not xlib6g) and libc5 packages.

I think list is too long. libc5, xlib6, xpm4.7 and now:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$/usr/local/netscape/netscape 
/usr/local/netscape/netscape: can't load library 'libg++.so.27'

Isn`t there a netscape version compiled against libc6?

Thanks.

Deniz Dogan


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compiling joystick.o

1998-04-30 Thread Corey Miller
I'm trying to compile the module for joystick support, but when I
make joystick.o and try to load it with insmod I get this error:

mstie# insmod joystick.o
joystick.o: kernel-module version mismatch
joystick.o was compiled for kernel version 2.0.32
while this kernel is version 2.0.33.

I am running 2.0.33, and have 2.0.33 in /usr/src/linux. If anyone
could point out my mistake, I would really appreciate it.

Corey

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Re: DNS/Non-authoritative answer trouble

1998-04-30 Thread Stephen Carpenter
I get the same thing...
I don't think this needs to be fixed
I believe this is correct...
in any case I have never seen it be wrong even whan it says that...
have you seen any wrong entries with it?
might be a good idea to seek out what non-authoritative means
before trying to fix it ;)
-Steve


On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 
 When I use nslookup to resolve my DNS name, it gives a 'Non-authoritative
 answer'..  How can I fix this?  Below is the relevant named configuration
 (I'm using the lasted BIND from Debian/hamm+unstable): 
 
 --begin---
 ; name resolution for 3dillusion.com
 
 @ IN  SOA ns.3dillusion.com. root.3dillusion.com. (
   1998042903  ; serial (ccyymmddxx)
   86400   ; refresh = 1 day
   1800; retry = 1/2 hour
   2592000 ; expire = 30 days
   86400   ; minimum = 1 day
 )
   IN  NS  ns.3dillusion.com.
 
 ; domain 3dillusion.com
 
 @ IN  A   198.109.162.43
   IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
   IN  HINFO   i586Linux
 
 ; server
 
 serv1 IN  A   198.109.162.43
 serv1 IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
 serv1 IN  HINFO   i586Linux
 serverIN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
 
 ; primary name server
 
 nsIN  A   198.109.162.43
 nsIN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
 nameserverIN  CNAME   ns.3dillusion.com.
 
 ; mail server
 
 mail  IN  A   198.109.162.43
 mail  IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
 postofficeIN  CNAME   mail.3dillusion.com.
 
 ; other hosts
 
 ftp   IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
 www   IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
 ---eof-
 
 I don't ever remember this being a problem before.  The SOA record looks
 correct to me..  Has anything changed with the recent versions of BIND?
 
 Thanks
 -Paul
 
 
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MUTT...the final configs

1998-04-30 Thread Stephen Carpenter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

As per that big pine discussion I decided to try mutt...
I used it for about 5 mins...and think I would like to continue using it.
I believe I have the version from non-us (a coupla weeks ago I burned
a CD at work with the entire non-us portion of debian on it...
along with non-free and some goodies)
here is what I need to make mutt usefull to me and stop using pine
(btw I do like mutts speed alot)
I think I asked part of this before but didn't quite get it:
1) how do I set it up to automatically sign and/or encrypt messages with
PGP? also should automatically check sigs / unencrypt when I view 
the message (I already have pine doing this just fine)
2) I have the following mailboxes -
INBOX ZZ-INBOX  debian-devel ZZ-debian-devel debian-user ZZ-debian-user 
BUGTRAQ ZZ-BUGTRAQ
anything normal is an incommin gfolder (not defined as one in pine but..
procmail delivers directly to it)
and enything with a ZZ is where pine automatically puts
messages after I have read them
as you can see im on debian-user and debian-devel ...
getting a few hundred e-mail messages a day I need this
can mutt do this? if so how..if not...
are there alrenatives?
- -Steve


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an exim expert, please REPOST

1998-04-30 Thread Marco Frattola
Sorry to repost, but got no answer, so maybe this message got lost ..

Hi all,
I'm trying to switch from sendmail to exim, and I'm facing some problems.
I have a small net and a dialup connection to internet. Since only some accounts
on one machine are enabled to internet mail usage, I'd like to rewrite headers
to supply correct reply-to and From field (and maybe some host masquerading,
since my small net has no offical IP/DNS enties) for mail leaving my net, while
maintaining as is for internal mail user. I'd also like to keep it trasparent
to users (i.e. not using MUA headers rewrite)

Here are the simple rules for rewriting I'm trying (and failing) to implement:

Source Addr Dest. Addr  Rule
userA   UserB   don't do anything (local mail)
userA   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   don't do anything (LAN mail), route it
userA   [EMAIL PROTECTED] rewrite From,Reply-To and route thru IPS 
mailhub

Here are the relevant parts from my exim.conf

qualify_domain = machine.my.net
local_domains = localhost:@

...

# ROUTERS CONFIG

# for LAN mail
lookuphost:
  driver = lookuphost,
  domains = *.my.net,
  transport = smtp;

# for internet mail
smarthost:
  driver = domainlist,
  transport = smtp,
  route_list = * my.isp.mailhub byname;

...

# REWRITE CONFIGURATION

# for outbound mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] match {$h_to:} {my.net} {my.net} {my.isp} 
}  Ffrs

This rule doesn't seem to work. I read this (but I'm surely wrong)

for every addr, if the To: header matches my.net, let it go, else go with 
my.isp

The effect of the above rule is that all mail except local have rewritten 
headers. It looks to me that the problem is with $h_to:
Can somebody shed some light on what I'm doing wrong, or suggest a better 
approach?
Thanks

PS: I think exim should become debian default MTA.
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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 11:14:06PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
/dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
   /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
   abnormally, and perhaps by other events.
  
  I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  heh
  
  Sounds like a bug to file against pppd if not already there, yes?
 
  I don't think so.  When it starts, pppd mopdifies the permissions,
 and resets them when it exits.  If it is stopped with a kill -9, which
 is what I did to test this, it has no chance to clean up.  If anything,
 its a bug against the user (me) who sent the kill -9.

I never kill -9 it, but often have it end up like that.  pppd does screw it
up in normal operation.


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kde dont work

1998-04-30 Thread Alain Toussaint
i installed kde tonight,also started it but it gave me these error
messages:

kwm: cannot connect to X server
~$ kcmbell: cannot connect to X server
kpanel: cannot connect to X server
kbgndwm: cannot connect to X server
krootwm: cannot connect to X server
kcminput: cannot connect to X server
Starting audio server with talk id 0.
kfm: cannot connect to X server

does X have to be running when i do the command startkde ???

p.s.i used to have X running at boot but when i rebooted (after the kde
install),i was no more having an xterm so i couldn't start kde when X was
up,if i need to start it,which file i need to modify so it start when X
get started ???

also,the kde version is the Beta4 from bo-unstable.

thanks a lot.
Alain



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Re: MUTT...the final configs

1998-04-30 Thread Norbert Veber
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 12:57:02AM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 As per that big pine discussion I decided to try mutt...
 I used it for about 5 mins...and think I would like to continue using it.
 I believe I have the version from non-us (a coupla weeks ago I burned
 a CD at work with the entire non-us portion of debian on it...
 along with non-free and some goodies)
 here is what I need to make mutt usefull to me and stop using pine
 (btw I do like mutts speed alot)
 I think I asked part of this before but didn't quite get it:
 1) how do I set it up to automatically sign and/or encrypt messages with
 PGP? also should automatically check sigs / unencrypt when I view 
 the message (I already have pine doing this just fine)

in ~/.muttrc put:
set pgp_autosign
^ thats all you really need
these might also be usefull:
set pgp_encryptself
set pgp_replyencrypt
set pgp_replysign

as for checking signatures, it does that by default.

 2) I have the following mailboxes -
 INBOX ZZ-INBOX  debian-devel ZZ-debian-devel debian-user ZZ-debian-user 
 BUGTRAQ ZZ-BUGTRAQ
 anything normal is an incommin gfolder (not defined as one in pine but..
 procmail delivers directly to it)
 and enything with a ZZ is where pine automatically puts
 messages after I have read them
 as you can see im on debian-user and debian-devel ...
 getting a few hundred e-mail messages a day I need this
 can mutt do this? if so how..if not...
 are there alrenatives?

it can move read mail, I forgot how though, look at the documentation..
these options might also be usfull:
folder-hook . set sort=date-sent   - default sorting
folder-hook *Linux-Kernel* set sort=threads  - any folders matching *blah*
are sorted by tread
folder-hook *Bugtraq* set sort=threads
folder-hook *debian* set sort=threads
set record==sent-mail - copies mail you send to this
   folder
set nomark_old  - prevents that (for me) annoying O mark on
   messages you've seen but not read


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Description: PGP signature


Re: TCP/IP Network +WIN95

1998-04-30 Thread Johan Berglund
I have a local network that consists of 2 win95 and 1 debian box.
The debian box has an isdn connection to the Internet.
There is one Problem:
The win95 boxes make the debian box dial exactly dial every 5 minutes,
each. This is getting very expensive.

I have experienced this problem to.
It was something with DNS request,
but I don´t remember if it was the
Linux box or the Win that caused
the problem.
Try to disable DNS requests from 
the computers one at a time.
Are you using diald?
Is it possible to block-out
DNS requests?


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Error when booting

1998-04-30 Thread Julian Easterling
I mistakenly sent the following to one person when I meant to send it to the
list.  To Oliver, sorry that you have to read this twice.
Message Follows:
I did that and I it still won't boot from the hard drive.  I think these
type of problems is what made me give up Linux last year when I tried.  I am
determined to not let my ignorance get in the way this time.  Have any other
suggestions.  I am beginning to consider reinstalling the base system again
but this is the 4th time I have installed the base so I am assuming that it
is something I am not doing right during the install.  The computer is an
AMD 586-75 running at 100mhz, 32MB of mem, ISA only motherboard with Award
4.50 BIOS, Cirrus Logic 5426 VL-Bus video card, a NE-2000 net card and a i/o
board, the hard drive is a Conner 540 MB.  Right now it connected to the
network at work, but if I can get it to work, I plan on bringing it home to
create a network of 4 other computer to dial in to the internet and provide
some protection for 2 windoze computers.  Thanks in advance for anyone who
can help with this problem.  I have read the man pages for lilo,
experimented with different settings in lilo.conf and I have read through
all of the FAQ's at www.debian.org and www.linux.org.


 


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Re: Boot Disk Failures

1998-04-30 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Hello Dale!

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, G.Dale Miller wrote:

 I am having trouble with the boot disks from April. I boot up with the
 rescue floppy
 and it start up with the loading root... etc.. Eventually it says
 boot failed press and
 key to try again. Are there problems with these disk2 and pentium2
 boards.

It sounds to me is a problem with the floppy disk, try with another one
and/or format it before with some kind of good tools for floopy disk
formatting (safe format -- sforma.exe fron Norton Utilities is great and
works under dosemu)

I hope this helps

Ulisses
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Re: Exim Problem

1998-04-30 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
   Do you have this in /etc/host.conf?
   
   order hosts,bind
   
   this should tell DNS to look in /etc/hosts before looking into named
   (or at least this is what I think it should do :)
  
  Yep that is what is in my /etc/host.conf file. and it still don't work, it
look
  to me like exim and smail (which I have tried on my second machine) as
just
  doing a DNS lookup and ignoring the /etc/host.conf file.  I have
configured
  both exim and smail using the debian config programs. and selected option
1,
  internet mail, as the other options don't seem to take into account if you
are
  not connected to the internet,  I think the problem is that my nameserver
is
  just a cacheing name server and so doesn't do reverse lookups,  
 
 Why shouldn't a cache DNS server cache reverse lookup? Have you tried this?
 I'm asking this because I usually work in closed domains (i.e. no connection
 to the net) so I have to build my DNS server and don't use cache server that
 much.

well I have finally fixed this problem, I had to configure a full namserver as
for some reason, a cacheing nameserver just didn't so the job, I even tried
smail to see if it was a exim problem and the same thing happened.
 
  Could this be the problem or should I reconfigre exim/smail using the
config
  progam?  If I reconfigure them using the config program which option
should I
  use?
 
 Well, I don't know, sorry. I've just started playing with exim, and as you
see
 (my msg to the list) I have my problems with it too.
 There doesn't seem to be a lot of exim expert these days. :(
 Sorry I can't be much help
 
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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

1998-04-30 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote:

  /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
 /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
 abnormally, and perhaps by other events.

Is there some place in the documentation where one can see what the
permissions of different files should be on a standard Debian system or is
this list the way to find out information like this?  

I know that I saw some instructions in Howto's or in installation README's
on permissions, but how do I for example find out what /tmp 's permissions
should be if restore screwed mine up - as has happened before.

Johann


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HP Laserjet 4000 T

1998-04-30 Thread Mario Filipe
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Hi

The bosses arround here have bought one of these. Our problem now is that when
printing the printer holds the last page (FF missing). Question: What is the
right filter for this one, and how can we force the FF?

Thanks

Mario Filipe
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Re: recompiling kernel

1998-04-30 Thread G. Crimp
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 11:32:27AM -0400, Scott Ellis wrote:

[snip]

  Somewhere in usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/compressed there is a file
  that is invoking objdump (whatever that might be) with an option `-k'. 
  make zdisk and make zImage say this is an illegal option.  

[snip]

  
  The objdump man page doesn't mention the `-k' option.  So why is
  some script somewhere issuing this command ?  This is more puzzling since I
  compiled a kernel when I first installed without any problem.  Same 
  sources. 
  Now I try to add sound and I get this.  Even if I take out the sound support
  and try to compile the kernel exactly like the one I am currently using
  (from a backed up .config) I get this error.
[snip]


 
 Argh!  This keeps popping up.  The proper fix for this is 
 
 rm `which encaps`

Thanks for the answer.  Sorry if I'm dredging up old muck.  Before I
just blindly apply your solution, though, I want to make sure I know at
least at little what's going on.  I've been trying to decipher the stdout
from make zImage (or zdisk), and I am not sure the above solution will solve
the problem.  Once again, here is where the compile craps out:

(...)
make[2]: Entering directory
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/arch/i386/boot/compressed'
(...)
if hash encaps 2 /dev/null; then \
  objdump -k -q  -o 0x10 /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/vmlinux 
$tmppiggy; \
else \
  objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -R .stab -R .stabstr
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/vmlinux $tmppiggy; \
fi;
(...)
objdump: illegal option -- k
Usage: objdump [-ahifdDprRtTx  (...)
(...)
make: *** [zdisk] Error 2
root:/usr/src/linux #


Let me explain why I am unsure that the above solution is going to
solve my problem.  If I understand the above excerpt correctly, `objdump -k
-q ...' will be executed if `hash encaps' returns an exit status of true. 
It shouldn't.  I don't have encaps on my system.  I have checked using 

`find / -iname encaps', 
`type encaps', 
  and   `file encaps'.  

Therefore, `objcopy -O binary ...' should be executed instead.  I have
tested this with the following little script :

if hash encaps 2 /dev/null
 then
  echo Hello !
 else
  echo Loser !
fi

which effectively returns `Loser !' rather than `Hello !'.  So I don't
understand why the compile script trys to run `objdump -k ...' instead of
`objcopy ...'  Can anyone explain ?

My understanding of all this is pretty scant.  Maybe there is
something behind the scenes that I can't see with my little analysis.  If
someone could confirm that rm 'which encaps' will indeed solve the
problem, it would be greatly appreciated.  (If that someone had the time and
inclination, I'd love to know the how and why of the solution !)


Thanks all for your help,

Gerald Crimp


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Re: display postscript

1998-04-30 Thread jdassen
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 09:57:27PM -0400, David B Wilson wrote:
 Is there any sort of display postscript support in Linux?

Yes. The ghostscript author was contracted to produce Display PostScript
support for gnustep (see http://www.gnustep.org/GoodNews/GeneralNews.html);
the dgs package in hamm is Display Ghostscript; it is explicitly marked as
a developer release. Don't use it for production..

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Re: KDE Beta-4 with bo?

1998-04-30 Thread John Wingfield
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Berlin.MPG.DE, Heiko R. Selber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

-+ On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 04:22:08PM +0200, Heiko R. Selber wrote:
-+ 
-+  I heard that the new KDE Beta-4 was released. Unfortunately, it seems
-+ that
-+  the .deb packages exist only in hamm. Is that true, or did someone make
-+  new KDE packages for bo? If so, where can I get them?
-+ 
-+ I saw a bo directory on the ftp mirror.  I didn't go in it (run hamm here)
-+ but I did see the dir.  The pacakges are debianized too, not just in .deb
-+ form.

I saw the dir, too. However, it's empty. Maybe due to a transmission
error?

I am still reluctant to switch to hamm because I recently screwed up a
running bo system trying to upgrade automagically using some script I
found on the web. I would like to wait for hamm to become stable, but
upgrade KDE, mostly because kfm is rather unstable in KDE Beta3. 

Heiko

Could someone please explain to me what bo and hamm actually are?
Thanks!

John

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logging/syslog

1998-04-30 Thread Paul Miller

I am not on the mgetty mailing list, please reply directly to me

I just noticed that mgetty is logging caller information to
/var/log/syslog.. Is there any way I can get mgetty to start logging to
something like /var/log/callers?

That would make it easier to have a program watch that file and execute a
command when a new line appears than digging through the mgetty log
files..

Thanks
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Driver for Diamond Fire GL 100 PRO

1998-04-30 Thread Mircea-David MORAR
Hello,

Does anybody know where could I find a driver for a graphic card
Diamond Fire GL 100 Pro? I can't use X on my machine because the card is
not supported.

Many thanks,

Mircea

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Re: PPP problem using hamm

1998-04-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, calvin wrote:

 when i type in pon it dials my ISP and logs in fine then like 30 seconds
 later it disconnects heres what it says when i type in plog
 pppd[129] Serial connection established
 pppd[129] Using interface ppp0
 pppd[129] LPC: Timeout sending config-requests
 pppd[129] Connection terminated
 pppd[129] Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
 pppd[129] Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
 pppd[129] Hangup (SIGHUP)
 pppd[129] Exit
 
 any suggestions?

Here's a (bo) script for dialing my ISP (on an internal extension):

#! /bin/bash

/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 115200 defaultroute connect '/usr/sbin/chat -v 
-t 90 ABORT BUSY ABORT NO CARRIER ABORT VOICE ABORT NO DIALTONE  
ATZ OK ATL1 OK ATDT8881 ervice--ervice ppp' user spqr -chap

If I don't send that ppp I get the same error as you do. The command
you need to send is usually ppp, though I observed that if you type
help to our Xylogics Annex box (which is what says Service) there's
no mention of ppp as a command.

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bouncing mail with procmail

1998-04-30 Thread Paul Miller

How can I bounce mail with procmail?  I've tried using |exit 111, but it
complains about not being able to open the exit mail file...  Here is my
current .procmailrc:

LOGFILE=$HOME/mail.log
:0
* ! ^(FROM|TO).*tcimet.net
|exit 111
:0
* ^(FROM|TO).*tcimet.net
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This it not on my server, so I only have .forward and .procmailrc to work
with.  Their MTA is sendmail 8.8.5.. Is there another way using .forward?

Thanks
-Paul

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green monitor functions for the console?

1998-04-30 Thread Paul Miller

Is there a program, similar to xset, that can set the green monitor
functions for the console?  I'd like my monitor to turn off after a
certain amount of inactivity.

Thanks
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Re: KDE Beta-4 with bo?

1998-04-30 Thread John Wingfield
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael
Tempsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On 29 Apr , John Wingfield wrote:

 Could someone please explain to me what bo and hamm actually are?
 Thanks!

Codewords for different versions of the distribution,
bo == 1.3(.1rX) (currently the stable distribution)
hamm == 2.0 (currently in the 'frozen' state, soon to be stable)
slink == what is to be 2.1, also currently known as unstable

A distribution will progress from unstable to frozen to stable as it
evolves - but it keeps the same codeword.

As to where the names come from - Bruce Perens, the previous Debian
leader works for Pixar, the company that produced the movie Toy Story...

/michael

I see!  Thanks for clearing that up for me.  I'm planning to upgrade to
Debian 2.0 as soon as some 'official' CDs are produced.  I'll install
KDE then.

John


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Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

1998-04-30 Thread Michael Beattie
I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
first knowing of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
Torvalds. Would anyone have any idea if this is available, or even if it
was saved? Or even where I could start to look for it?

Sheesh.. I ask TOO much.. :)


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Re: Driver for Diamond Fire GL 100 PRO

1998-04-30 Thread Mike Holliday
Hi,
Download The Xserver/driver  in the latest XF86_SVGA
server, i.e. in XF86 3.3.2.  I'm not sure if that is available as a bo set
of packages.  If it isn't just download the Linux_ix86 XF86-3.3.2 binaries
(not the glibc ones) from any XF86 mirror.  The glibc XF86 binaries are
for Linux libc6/glibc2, not Linux libc5 which is what is normally found on
bo systems (Debian 1.3.1).

-Original Message-
From: Mircea-David MORAR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 6:03 AM
Subject: Driver for Diamond Fire GL 100 PRO


Hello,

Does anybody know where could I find a driver for a graphic card
Diamond Fire GL 100 Pro? I can't use X on my machine because the card is
not supported.

Many thanks,

 Mircea

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Re: kde dont work

1998-04-30 Thread Alain Toussaint
Hello all,i got it working finaly,it's awesome,i like it very much and i
look stable on my setup (16 MB ram,48 MB swap).

thanks !!
Alain



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Re: bouncing mail with procmail

1998-04-30 Thread Lorens Kockum
In debian-user you wrote:

How can I bounce mail with procmail?  I've tried using |exit 111, but it
complains about not being able to open the exit mail file...

You need to put 'EXITCODE=xxx' instead.

Here is my current .procmailrc:

Here is mine :-) I use qmail, so YMMV. reject-spam prints a
message to stderr (which is taken up by the bounce), and exits
100. I'm not sure which of the two '100' is used as the actual
code returned to procmail, I did this in increments, and it was a
long time ago.

--
MAILBOX=~/procmailbox

:0
snip recipes that weed out good mail

EXITCODE=100

:0c
|~/reject-spam

:0
!spam
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Yes, spam is a user-name on my machine. It might be better to
make it a file, that way I'd keep the MAIL FROM:.  I'm looking
(but not very hard) for a way to keep the RCPT TO: ...

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Re: Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

1998-04-30 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:29:43PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote:
 I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
 first knowing of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
 Torvalds.

A number of early Linux posts from Linus are available as part of the Linus
vs Andy Tanenbaum flamewar, which is archived on many places, e.g.
http://www.kde.org/food/linux_is_obsolete.html

HTH,
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Re: Printing from windows

1998-04-30 Thread Brian Servis
Will Lowe wrote:
 
 This DOES work:
 1) make some windows thing (ie. MS Word) print to a file
 2) ftp the file to the linux host in BINARY mode
 3) killoff lpd
 4) become user lp
 5) do cat filename  /dev/lp1
 
 it prints just fine this way (even with all the crazy control characters
 at the front).
 
 But the default magicfilter option for text files is to run them through
 djscript,  and they don't print right that way.  Is there any way (other
 than having a 255-character string in /etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter) to
 get magic to recognize this as a weird form of PJL and just cat it?
 

The solution then is to set up a printer in printcap that does not use
magicfilter but instead just passes the raw data straight to the
printer.
Then use this printer as the share printer exported by samba.  Windows
is 
already taking care of all the formatting, printer definition, etc. via
the
printer driver.  All samba has to do is pass it on to the printer
without
trying to process it.  

Brian


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Lilo woes

1998-04-30 Thread Tristan Day
Thanks to everyone who gave opinions and advice on the HTML editor. I can't
stand 'vi' (the DOS to Linux HOWTO is right when it says that DOS users
probably won't like vi! Is there a good tutorial? the man page assumes you
know it well), so when I get everything working again (see below) I think I
will have a look at  Netscape Composer. =)


Just reinstalled Debian, and everything worked fine until I configured lilo,
which decided that it didn't like the idea of not installing an MBR, so it
went ahead and did it anyway.
I *used to* dual boot WinNT and Debian 1.3.1 (not R6), and if there's any
possibility of restoring the Master Boot Record then I would like to persue
it.

Partitioning is as follows

Hda1 = extended partition, can't get to it

Hda2 = 4MB partition with the NT bootloader and all it needs to boot up
Linux and NT

Hda3 = 100MB Linux Swap

Hda4 = about 300Mb (very happy I have this one!) All my important documents,
etc. FAT format

Hda5 = about 1.5gig: NT (NTFS format -- is the alpha driver usable/reliable
yet? Last time I heard it actually ignores Security information!! MS reckons
NTFS is impregnable!) This is where all the NT resides

Hda6 = Linux root

The only problem is that Linux is in the MBR, so it _seems_ unnecessary to
reinstall NT just for this. Is there a way of getting to the MBR? Is it easy
to change?

So my questions are as follows:

1. Where can I find a good tutorial for vi?
2. Can anyone suggest how I could restore NT as the default boot?
3. Failing 2, is there a way of booting NT from lilo or loadlin, or
something along these lines?
4. a)Can I get to the MBR, and how?
b) If so, is it easy to edit?


Thanks for help on any of these issues,

Tristan


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Re: iBCS compiling

1998-04-30 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi,

did set the SMP support in the CONFIG file correctly?

Cheers, Thomas



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Re: Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

1998-04-30 Thread Lorens Kockum
In debian-user Michael Beattie wrote:
I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
first knowing of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
Torvalds.

MODE=Approximate quote from memory

Do you yearn for the days when men were men, and wrote their own
device drivers...

/MODE

MODE=Altavista simple query, third match

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
 Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
 Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT
 Organization: University of Helsinki
 
 Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote
 their own device drivers? Are you without a nice project and just dying
 to cut your teeth on a OS you can try to modify for your needs?  Are you
 finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all-
 nighters to get a nifty program working? Then this post might be just
 for you :-)

It's about 33% into URL:http://sslug.imm.dtu.dk/linux_history_1.html

/MODE

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linux shutdown

1998-04-30 Thread Arunas Norvaisa
 Dear all,

 I'm confused...

 Have RTFMing and am using 'shutdown -r now' to restart my system.
BUT our system (Netware/Unix) admin (really old and experienced
'wolf') have told me that he's using 'sync;sync;halt' and have tried
to persuade me to use 'his' command.

 What is your opinion as I'm really confused about this.

 And - what are dangers of so-called 'three-finger salute' which is
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hamm's last soaks up 9MB RAM

1998-04-30 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

I recently updated an 386 with 8MB to hamm and after fixing utmp/wtmp I ran
last too check if everything is ok. It seemed to do nothing, neither ^C nor
^Z worked. I opened another ssh-connection and ps showed me

root   210  6.9 49.5  9952  3400  p0 D13:39   0:02 last

After a while last completed sucessfully. I copied wtmp to a faster
hamm-box, which apearantly had no problems, but also used 9MB RAM.

bo's last only takes 800k - so what's wrong??

BTW: its from sysvinit_2.74-4

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Re: HP Laserjet 4000 T

1998-04-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:08:29AM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
 The bosses arround here have bought one of these. Our problem now is that when
 printing the printer holds the last page (FF missing). Question: What is the
 right filter for this one, and how can we force the FF?

I recommend installing magicfilter -- it can do that for you.


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Re: linux shutdown

1998-04-30 Thread Lorens Kockum
In debian.user was writ:

 And - what are dangers of so-called 'three-finger salute' which is
described as The Very Bad Thing (tm) and absolute no-no?

It is?  Hasn't been so for a *very* long time!

/etc/inittab:
# What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t20 -h now

-h is not the default, of course, -r is the default.

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Re: Printing from windows

1998-04-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 06:57:35AM -0500, Brian Servis wrote:
 The solution then is to set up a printer in printcap that does not use
 magicfilter but instead just passes the raw data straight to the
 printer.
 Then use this printer as the share printer exported by samba.  Windows
 is 
 already taking care of all the formatting, printer definition, etc. via
 the
 printer driver.  All samba has to do is pass it on to the printer
 without
 trying to process it.  

I have never found magicfilter to interfere with this though. I have
a PCL5 HP5L, and I print through samba to the same printer which I print
to on linux with lpr, with magic filter -- no problem. From memory
I did the same with my ESC2P bubblejet 20 before that.


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Re: diamond viper card and xfree86

1998-04-30 Thread Frank Barknecht
Lewis, James M.  hat gesagt: // Lewis, James M.  wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Anyone know if a diamond viper 330 card is supported
 under XFree86?  If it is, can I run it with a bo system?
 
 
 I think this is a card with a Riva128-Chip. If so, take a look at 
 http://www.suse.de 
 Suse has developed a X-Server for Riva-Chips (XSuse) that should work 
 with bo.

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RE: Quota on Mail systems

1998-04-30 Thread Patrick Ouellette
IMHO quotas on /var/spool are a bad idea.  They are only effective
(as you have discovered) if the user owns the file there - many processes
(news, mail, etc.) put things in spool with the ownership other than
the user who the file is for.  If you do get say all the processes to put
the
file in spool with the owner as the user, and the user spools a postscript
print job, they can't get mail, news, whatever until the print job is
removed.
If the user is using gs to render the postscript, they may need additional
space (in /var/spool) before that happens.

I grant that what I describe has a lot of if this statements.  My experience
with computers has shown me that eventually you get discover about 5 times
the
what if statements in actual problems.

A solution would be to have quotas on the user's home directory, and have
the
user's mail spool to ~/mail or some such directory.  Of course if the user
fills up his home directory then he can't get any mail, but that is his/her
problem ;-)


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 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 9:29 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Quota on Mail systems



 Hi.

 I am trying to implement quotas on the mail system of my debian linux
 server.  I have configured the quota system so that users have a quota on
 /var/spool.

 This quota works fine and enforces the limit correctly when a user
 attempts to put any files in that filesystem via the shell - but when a
 user recieves mail it is placed into their mail file - regardless of their
 disk quota.  So affectively the mail system is quotaless.

 Can anybody explain this behaviour and perhaps suggest how I may correct
 this??

 Thanks,

 Chris


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Re: green monitor functions for the console?

1998-04-30 Thread Thomas Lakofski
I have this in a file called `/etc/rc.boot/consoledpms':

#!/bin/sh
setterm -blank 15 -powersave powerdown

I couldn't get it to do anything other than 'suspend' on the console, and
'off' in X... probably depends on your videocard and monitor.

-thomas


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:05:48 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: green monitor functions for the console?
 
 
 Is there a program, similar to xset, that can set the green monitor
 functions for the console?  I'd like my monitor to turn off after a
 certain amount of inactivity.
 
 Thanks
 -Paul


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Re: compiling joystick.o

1998-04-30 Thread Brian Servis
Corey Miller wrote:
 
 I'm trying to compile the module for joystick support, but when I
 make joystick.o and try to load it with insmod I get this error:
 
 mstie# insmod joystick.o
 joystick.o: kernel-module version mismatch
 joystick.o was compiled for kernel version 2.0.32
 while this kernel is version 2.0.33.
 
 I am running 2.0.33, and have 2.0.33 in /usr/src/linux. If anyone
 could point out my mistake, I would really appreciate it.
 

Check the Makefile, I think there is a variable in there that sets what
kernel it is compiling for.  I am not at my Linux machine now to check.
I think you can even give a list of kernel versions and it will create
a set of different joystick.o's one for each kernel version.  

Brian


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Re: HP Laserjet 4000 T

1998-04-30 Thread Mario Filipe
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On 30-Apr-98 Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:08:29AM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
 The bosses arround here have bought one of these. Our problem now is that
 when
 printing the printer holds the last page (FF missing). Question: What is the
 right filter for this one, and how can we force the FF?
 
 I recommend installing magicfilter -- it can do that for you.

We are using magicfilter! My question would be more correct like this:

What is the correct magicfilter filter for this printer ?

Mario Filipe
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RE: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

1998-04-30 Thread Patrick Ouellette
Does you SCSI card have *gasp* jumpers to configure the interrupts
(or software)?  I get similar messages if I put the wrong irq in
the AHA152x module load line.  If it is one of those plug-n-pray
cards there used to be some utils that might help, iirc.


Pat Ouellette

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 Stephen Carpenter
 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 9:37 PM
 To: debian-user list
 Subject: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking


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 I got my SCSI tape drive and I installed a SCSI card I had lying around
 unfortunatly it didn't work :(
 I THINK the problem may be the controller...
 I get the messages:
 aha152x: processing commandline: ok
 aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
 aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled,
 parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended
 translation=disabled
 aha152x: trying software interrupt, lost.
 aha152x: IRQ 9 possibly wrong.  Please verify.
 - ---
 I have tried IRQ 11 with the same effect...then it is...
 scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
 scsi : 1 host.
 scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
 lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00
 - --- repeated for id 0 - 6
 The SCSI card is from a ZIP SCSI drive (I got it for free from omeone
 who already had a SCSI card and installed a ZIP)
 It calls itself (written on the board) an
 Adaptec AVA-1502
 the Tape drive apears to be (jumpers) SCSI ID 4, Parity on, Termination
 power on
 Any ideas? should I just forget it asnd buy a new adapter?
 I recompiled my kernel...turned on SCSI supoert and
 all of the Adaptec Drivers ...I am running Kernel 2.0.29
 (on a hamm system but I doubt that matters)
 I read the SCSI-HOWTO...but it was of no help :(
 - -Steve


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Re: Quota on Mail systems

1998-04-30 Thread Pete's mailing list account

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:

 I don't think I'll hold my breath - but I will switch over to procmail to
 my MDA.  Can you give me any information on setting procmail up as the
 MDA?  Or is it fairly straight forward (ie. I should just read the
 sendmail man page)

I would not recommend this switchover.

If a user receives a mail which puts them over softquota, with  as a
local delivery agent: 

1) deliver.  User would receive their mail and go over softquota but with
zero grace period.  If you ran a script like I do to notify users of being
overquota, they'd know about being overquota (as long as they didn't hit
hard quota) and be able to fix it.

2) procmail.  Incoming mail which puts the user overquota will fail the
final delivery stage (procmail notices the error of no quota/no grace
period) and bounce.  Unless your automatic overquota email is the only
thing small enough to get into their mailbox, they won't know that they're
overquota, and won't get their mail.  This is totally unreflective of hard
quota

Check out http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/20/20879.html for more details on
this bug.


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Re: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

1998-04-30 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Patrick Ouellette wrote:

 Does you SCSI card have *gasp* jumpers to configure the interrupts

Jumpers for both interrupts and IO adress...I had (previously to posting my
first message even) check /proc/interrupts
found that 11 and 9 are free interrupts for me...and the board suports both
(it also suports 12 which is my PS/2 mouse and 10 which is my NIC card)
I don't have the manual for the card but...
if I look at the board itself i see jumpers (yes jumpers...I LOVE jumpers..
the best way to set IRQs and what not)
next to one of the sets of jumpers there are a few rows marked
I9, I10, I11,I12. ...I assume these ar eteh interrupt setting
then there is another which is marked
in: 140
out: 340 (I think...I forget the higher value)
in any case yes...I am pretty darned sure I used the rigth IRQ

 (or software)?  I get similar messages if I put the wrong irq in
 the AHA152x module load line.

hmm well it isn't a module load line... its in the kernel boot parametersI don't
use kernel modules whenever I can avoid them...I just compile it into the kernel

and turn off what I don't need
same diff tho I guess

 If it is one of those plug-n-pray
 cards there used to be some utils that might help, iirc.

 Pat Ouellette

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  Stephen Carpenter
  Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 9:37 PM
  To: debian-user list
  Subject: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking
 
 
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  I got my SCSI tape drive and I installed a SCSI card I had lying around
  unfortunatly it didn't work :(
  I THINK the problem may be the controller...
  I get the messages:
  aha152x: processing commandline: ok
  aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
  aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled,
  parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended
  translation=disabled
  aha152x: trying software interrupt, lost.
  aha152x: IRQ 9 possibly wrong.  Please verify.
  - ---
  I have tried IRQ 11 with the same effect...then it is...
  scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
  scsi : 1 host.
  scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
  lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00
  - --- repeated for id 0 - 6
  The SCSI card is from a ZIP SCSI drive (I got it for free from omeone
  who already had a SCSI card and installed a ZIP)
  It calls itself (written on the board) an
  Adaptec AVA-1502
  the Tape drive apears to be (jumpers) SCSI ID 4, Parity on, Termination
  power on
  Any ideas? should I just forget it asnd buy a new adapter?
  I recompiled my kernel...turned on SCSI supoert and
  all of the Adaptec Drivers ...I am running Kernel 2.0.29
  (on a hamm system but I doubt that matters)
  I read the SCSI-HOWTO...but it was of no help :(
  - -Steve
 
 
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Sidewinders and Re: compiling joystick.o

1998-04-30 Thread David Wright
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Brian Servis wrote:

 Corey Miller wrote:
  
  I'm trying to compile the module for joystick support, but when I
  make joystick.o and try to load it with insmod I get this error:
  
[...]
 
 Check the Makefile, I think there is a variable in there that sets what
 kernel it is compiling for.  I am not at my Linux machine now to check.
 I think you can even give a list of kernel versions and it will create
 a set of different joystick.o's one for each kernel version.  

You're right, and I guess that's why the binary package only has 2.0.27
and 2.0.30 versions in it.

But on the subject of joysticks, I have a MS Sidewinder 3D Pro joystick
which claims to be a digital stick. Fortunately it also seems to run in
a compatibility analogue mode though not everything works: the throttle
(slider) and 4 buttons on the base don't work. The effect of the switch
appears merely to turn on/off the hat.

To anyone who uses one of these, have I missed any features?
To all and sundry, is there any work in progress on driving digital
joysticks digitally (not that I particularly want to run a Sidewinder
Force Feedback Pro and get whitefinger syndrome!).

Cheers,

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libc5 Version von mesa für hamm?

1998-04-30 Thread Dirk Luetjens

Hallo,

ich suche die mesa2 libraries in einer libc5 Version für ein hamm System.
Hat jemand eine Idee?

Dirk


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Re: logging/syslog

1998-04-30 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

Paul Miller wrote:
 I am not on the mgetty mailing list, please reply directly to me
 
 I just noticed that mgetty is logging caller information to
 /var/log/syslog.. Is there any way I can get mgetty to start logging to
 something like /var/log/callers?

No.

(Well, yes, direct the *mgetty* log file into /var/log/callers, by
changing policy.h and recompiling, but you usually don't want to do that).

gert

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Re: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

1998-04-30 Thread Mark Ciciretti
Try setting the jumper to set the address to 340.  I have an Adaptec 1522, which
is basicaly the same card but with floppy support.  This is the message I get
from dmesg:

aha152x: BIOS test: passed, auto configuration: ok, detected 1 controller(s)
aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x340, IRQ=11, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled, pari
ty=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended translation=disabled
aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok.
scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $

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Debian 2.0 Question

1998-04-30 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello Everyone,

I have been using Debian 1.31 for some time now, but had a bad crash 
last
Monday and was going to go ahead and upgrade to Debian 2.0 from the Frozen
Distribution. I know I am pre-mature but, thought this was a good time,
seeing how my system is hosed as it is. I do have backups but really was
hoping that 2.0 was going to be out by the end of this month (April), but
checked and now it is May. 

The question I have is looking at the /binary-i386 Disk section, there 
all
the files and 2 I am not sure about. This is resc1440tecra.bin and
drv1440tecra.bin. What exactly is the tecra? Do I need it for installing
Debian 2.0? I checked the list archives and couldn't find anything about
this for the last 2 months. 

Also, is it smart for me to go ahead with the Debian 2.0 upgrade 
starting
out fresh? I do have some scripts - ppp.chatscript, reslov.conf, and a few
others that will probably work with 2.0 that I have backed up and will
probably use. But other than that, I was hoping to get all the updated
files for 2.0 with this install. Is this Ok?

Thanks for your help!



Mike Acklin
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Re: Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

1998-04-30 Thread DAVID B. TEAGUE
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

 I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
 first knowing of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
 Torvalds. Would anyone have any idea if this is available, or even if it
 was saved? Or even where I could start to look for it?
 
 Sheesh.. I ask TOO much.. :)

I have a file I got somewhere that may have what you need in it.
I'm including the first 100 lines or so, if anyone wants it all
please mail me. It runs about 500 lines.

I'll send it sometime next week.

--David


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Subject: Birthday (was Re: Uptime found.  Thanks to all)
Date: 31 Jul 92 22:15:20 GMT

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duperval Laurent) writes:

P.S.  BTW, noone answered yet:  when is Linux's birthday?  Let's have a
party!

I couldn't for the life of me remember when it all happened, and I don't
keep a diary, so I can't give you any exact dates for when linux was
born.  But I did start to wonder, so I started ftp'ing around for
archives of the comp.os.minix group (where I announced it), and this is
what I came up with (with some editing). 

This is just a sentimental journey into some of the first posts
concerning linux, so you can happily press 'n' now if you actually
thought you'd get anything technical. 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
 Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
 Subject: Gcc-1.40 and a posix-question
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT
 
 Hello netlanders,
 
 Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix
 standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably)
 machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be
 nice.

The project was obviously linux, so by July 3rd I had started to think
about actual user-level things: some of the device drivers were ready,
and the harddisk actually worked.  Not too much else. 

 As an aside for all using gcc on minix - [ deleted ]

Just a success-report on porting gcc-1.40 to minix using the 1.37
version made by Alan W Black  co.

   Linus Torvalds  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 PS. Could someone please try to finger me from overseas, as I've
 installed a changing .plan (made by your's truly), and I'm not certain
 it works from outside? It should report a new .plan every time.

So I was clueless - had just learned about named pipes.  Sue me.  This
part of the post got a lot more response than the actual POSIX query,
but the query did lure out arl from the woodwork, and we mailed around
for a bit, resulting in the Linux subdirectory on nic.funet.fi. 

Then, almost two months later, I actually had something working: I made
sources for version 0.01 available on nic sometimes around this time. 
0.01 sources weren't actually runnable: they were just a token gesture
to arl who had probably started to despair about ever getting anything. 
This next post must have been from just a couple of weeks before that
release. 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
 Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
 Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
 Summary: small poll for my new operating system
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
 Organization: University of Helsinki
 
 
 Hello everybody out there using minix -
 
 I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
 professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones.  This has been brewing
 since april, and is starting to get ready.  I'd like any feedback on
 things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
 (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
 among other things). 
 
 I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work. 
 This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and
 I'd like to know what features most people would want.  Any suggestions
 are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)
 
   Linus ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 PS.  Yes - it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs. 
 It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never
 will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(. 

Judging from the post, 0.01 wasn't actually out yet, but it's close. I'd
guess the first version went out in the middle of September -91. I got
some responses to this (most by mail, which I haven't saved), and I even
got a few mails asking to be beta-testers for linux.

After that just a few general answers to quesions on the net:




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RE: Debian 2.0 Question

1998-04-30 Thread Mark Ciciretti
The Tecra files are for the Toshiba Tecra series of laptops.  I'm not really
sure what is the difference between them and thee standard boot disks.

You don't need to do a clean install.  I just downloaded the hamm base
packages and used dpkg to upgrade.  Look at
http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
This is the basic installiation instructions.  There is also an autoupgrade
script but I can't remeber where it is.  The only think that you need to be
real carefull about is the ordering of the packages when you install them. 
Your scripts should work in hamm.

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Re: Debian 2.0 Question

1998-04-30 Thread aqy6633
   The question I have is looking at the /binary-i386 Disk section, there 
 all
 the files and 2 I am not sure about. This is resc1440tecra.bin and
 drv1440tecra.bin. What exactly is the tecra? Do I need it for installing
 Debian 2.0? I checked the list archives and couldn't find anything about
 this for the last 2 months. 
 
   Also, is it smart for me to go ahead with the Debian 2.0 upgrade 
 starting
 out fresh? I do have some scripts - ppp.chatscript, reslov.conf, and a few
 others that will probably work with 2.0 that I have backed up and will
 probably use. But other than that, I was hoping to get all the updated
 files for 2.0 with this install. Is this Ok?

Yep.

Go ahead and do fresh install. Tecra disks are mainly for laptops.
As for ppp.chatscript and friends, old scripts will be of big help,
but the localtion of scripts themselves is changed, they are now in
/etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/chatscripts/provider

Good luck.

Alex Y.
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Re: Quota on Mail systems

1998-04-30 Thread Chris


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Pete's mailing list account wrote:

 
 On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:
 
 
 If a user receives a mail which puts them over softquota, with  as a
 local delivery agent: 
 
 1) deliver.  User would receive their mail and go over softquota but with
 zero grace period.  If you ran a script like I do to notify users of being
 overquota, they'd know about being overquota (as long as they didn't hit
 hard quota) and be able to fix it.
 
snip

The problem I am having, however, is that deliver will still put mail in
their mailbox well after going over their hard quota.  I believe this is
because it is running as root (although  it really should assume the id of
the user just before attempting to deliver the mail).

Perhaps to overcome the problem with the quota notification, the quota
warnings should be delivered by root, using an alternate MDA (such as
deliver) - which means the user will recieve the mail regardless of their
quota?


Chris




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mars-nwe preliminary for slink

1998-04-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I've uploaded a preliminary package for mars-nwe (at long last)
to my FTP server at ftp.rising.com.au, in directory /pub/hamish.

This is 0.99pl8 which requires no patches to get running on libc6,
unlike previous editions. Thanks to Marcus for letting me know about
this, and for making me get around to releasing the package.

Caveats: it spits out some ugly startup messages, which I haven't
removed yet, so I'm not going to upload it to master just yet.
Also, on my system, it still won't die -- I can't kill the thing,
I even send it SIGSEGV and it just notes in the log and keeps running.

Note: this package is for slink, which means you need a hamm or
slink system to run it.

Hamish
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Re: Printing from windows

1998-04-30 Thread Will Lowe
 I have never found magicfilter to interfere with this though. I have
 a PCL5 HP5L, and I print through samba to the same printer which I print
 to on linux with lpr, with magic filter -- no problem. From memory
 I did the same with my ESC2P bubblejet 20 before that.

The problem is that my win95 driver is putting out a non-standard pjl
file.  It's pjl stuff,  but with a couple hundred control-@ charactars at
the front.  I have NO IDEA what they're for -- if you delete them you get
a standard pjl file,  which magicfilter recognizes and which the printer
prints just fine.  It's enough to make you wonder if the printer doesn't
just ignore them -- maybe the win95 driver sticks them there exactly to
make it difficult for utilities like file to figure out what's in the
driver output...

Anyway,  I changed the default line in my magicfilter to cat rather
than djscript and it works fine now.  If someone can give me an idea
about how to write a filter that does nothing,  I'll do that ... I'd make
another printcap entry like this:

raw|winprint:\
:lp=/dev/NULL:\
:if=/usr/sbin/rawprint:

where /usr/sbin/rawprint just takes its input and cats it to /dev/lp1 ...
any ideas?  Remember that I can't cat anything to lp1 without killing lpd,
which is waiting on lp1 already,  but that if I try to do lpr within
rawprint,  it'll get passed through magicfilter,  which is the problem in
the first place...
Will

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Re: Printing from windows

1998-04-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 04:03:46AM -0500, Will Lowe wrote:
 about how to write a filter that does nothing,  I'll do that ... I'd make
 another printcap entry like this:
 
 raw|winprint:\
   :lp=/dev/NULL:\
   :if=/usr/sbin/rawprint:
 
 where /usr/sbin/rawprint just takes its input and cats it to /dev/lp1 ...
 any ideas?  Remember that I can't cat anything to lp1 without killing lpd,
 which is waiting on lp1 already,  but that if I try to do lpr within
 rawprint,  it'll get passed through magicfilter,  which is the problem in
 the first place...

H. If you don't specify a filter at all (remove the if=) then
it won't use magicfilter, and will go straight through to the printer.

Then you can have both the raw and cooked (magicfiltered) queues
running in parallel; at least, I THINK this is supported (using the
same port).


Hamish
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Re: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

1998-04-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
[ snip ]
: I don't have the manual for the card but...

http://www.adaptec.com/support/overview/scsiha.html - you should be able
to figure out how to find the manual from there.

: if I look at the board itself i see jumpers (yes jumpers...I LOVE jumpers..
: the best way to set IRQs and what not)
: next to one of the sets of jumpers there are a few rows marked
: I9, I10, I11,I12. ...I assume these ar eteh interrupt setting
: then there is another which is marked
: in: 140
: out: 340 (I think...I forget the higher value)
: in any case yes...I am pretty darned sure I used the rigth IRQ

It's best to be 100% sure; the 152x driver doesn't work too well if you
haven't got it right. 

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