Re: Problemas instalación KDE

1998-05-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 07:52:57PM +0200, Ignacio J. Alonso wrote:

  Me pasa exactamente lo mismo, por eso me he bajado las fuentes
  (qt-1.33.tar.gz) (creo que seria capaz de instalarlas siguiendo las
  instrucciones) y para que fueran reconocidas por el sistema dpkg he
  intentado hacer un paquete debian con ellas (mi primer paquete ;-)
  ) siguiendo el COMO de New maintainers  y . fracaso total,
  en algún lugar me perdí :'-( , no si ya lo dice el COMO, que es
  para paquetes sencillos, los paquetes de libreria y otros tipos
  necesitan un trabajo especial  aquí es donde he debido
  meter la pata.

 Como por lo visto quieres darte el trabajo, lo que puedes hacer es
 bajar el paquete fuente de debian para qt (está en
 debian/dists/hamm/non-free/source/libs/qt1_1.33*) y le das

 $ dpkg-source -x qt1_1.33-4.dsc

 lo que te va a resultar es un directorio qt-1.33 (o algo así). Allí
 le das:

 $ debian/rules binary

 para esto necesitas dpkg-dev instalado.


  Marcelo


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Es estrictamente necesario sendmail?

1998-05-24 Thread Felipe Sanchez
Hola.

En el trabajo el sistema operativo oficial es HPUX. Cuando estoy alla
uso dos formas de ver mi email, pine para el email de la cuenta que
tengo en mi trabajo y Netscape Messanger para la cuenta privada en mi
ISP. El Messanger no parece comunicarse para nada con el pop o el smtp
de mi maquina local, sino que hace una coneccion remota con la maquina
de mi ISP. Tengo debian instalado en mi notebook y la pregunta es, ¿es
necesario instalar sendmail o equivalentes cuando puedo usar Messanger
para bajar mi mail directamente desde mi ISP y mi trabajo?; en realidad
la pregunta es ¿ necesita Messanger que este sendmail o equivalente
instalado en mi notebook?.

Saludos y gracias.

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Hacer un 'pipe' en Mutt

1998-05-24 Thread Cosme Perea Cuevas
  Hola,
  
  estoy utilizando Mutt (0.88) para el correo y recibo
  algunos mensajes bastante largos, de los cuales solo
  parte me gustaría conservar. Por eso había pensado
  utilizar el 'pipe' (haciendo |) para enviarle el mensaje
  al editor y modificarlo (recortarlo), y que al salir
  regresara al lector con el mensaje modificado.
  
  Pero al enviárselo al 'joe' (supongo que no es problema del
  editor concreto), o bien empieza a 'cargar' líneas de
  forma insaciable y hay que pararlo con un 'kill' (je,
  si me hubiera pasado en W$95...), o bien lo carga
  correctamente y me devuelve automáticamente al lector de
  correo.
  
  Me preguntaba si alguien puede hacer esto y como lo hace.
  
  Pues eso, un saludo.
  
  PD: por cierto, me sumo a los que recomiendan probar
  Mutt, :-)


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Re: problemas con tar

1998-05-24 Thread Luis Clausell
Yep Roman!

El Sat, May 23, 1998 at 03:42:03PM -0400, Roman Ferreiras escribió:

 he bajado algunos programas .tar.gz   pero tengo el problema de que no
 se como descomprimirlo e instalarlo, he intentado descomprimirlo con

Prueba con 'gzip -dc archivo.tar.gz | tar -xvf -'

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Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-24 Thread Joel Klecker
At 13:12 -0700 1998-05-23, Steve Lamb wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 1998 20:01:53 +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:

Not really.  Other than that it's the default and is more or less considered
standard so I left it that way.

*chuckle*  There are quite a few people in quite a few newsgroups that
would love to hear you say that so they can educate you otherwise.

usenet != mail

A newsreader that doesn't grok MIME is a common thing. A MUA that doesn't
is a sorry POS, IMNSHO.
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Re: Upgrade script

1998-05-24 Thread Bob Hilliard
Scott D. Killen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
 Where can I find the script that prepares my 1.3.1 system for upgrade
 to hamm?  Any help is greatly appreciated...

http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup or 
ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup

 AFIK the latest version of autoup.sh is v0.25.  A recent message
on this list noted that slang*.deb has been moved to /base (the script
looks for it in /libs.

 There is also a tarball autoup.tar.gz on those sites that
contains all the files needed for by the script.  This can be more
convenient than getting all the files by ftp.

 I believe the script is also on www.debian.org in the developers
corner, but this does not always have the latest version.

Bob
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boot time options

1998-05-24 Thread Chris


Hi,

I just found out that I can boot a linux system to root by typing the
following at the lilo prompt:

linux init=/bin/sh

Due the environment in which the machines running linux are used, I would
like to disable the ability to modify boot methods.  Does anyone know how
I can do this?

Thanks,

Chris


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System.map

1998-05-24 Thread Chris


Hi,

I was wondering if somebody could give me an idea of what the System.map
file is for?  I've allways compiled my own kernels, and never had to worry
about this file (never had any problems).  However I tried to use the
command lsof, and it complains that it can't find a System.map file to
match my currently booted kernel.

What does this mean - and how can it be rectified?  I've looked through
the docs and it doesn't appear to be mentioned.

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: boot time options

1998-05-24 Thread joost


On Sun, 24 May 1998, Chris wrote:

 I just found out that I can boot a linux system to root by typing the
 following at the lilo prompt:
 
 linux init=/bin/sh
 
 Due the environment in which the machines running linux are used, I would
 like to disable the ability to modify boot methods.  Does anyone know how
 I can do this?

read man lilo.conf and look at the options password and restricted

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-24 Thread Mark Phillips

Of course newsgroups are fine provided you have access to a good news
feed.  The one I have access to is rather unreliable.  It seems that many
messages simply don't get through, and there are often periods when news
groups have no messages at all in them for a day or two.  (Not that I have
tried using it for a while.)

For me, stopping the mailing list would be a disaster.

Cheers,

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Re: Upgrade From RH 5.0 to Debian 2.0

1998-05-24 Thread joost


On Sat, 23 May 1998, David Lauder wrote:

 I've downloaded the base disk sets from /hamm/disks-i386/1998-04-26 
 rather than the /hamm/disks-i386/current. Is this okay?

You can find the latest versions (2.0.6) in
ftp1.us.debian.org/pub/debian/Incoming

Cheers,


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Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-24 Thread Raul Miller
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Then why discredit the idea, then point out all the niceties in your
 current prefered system when they aren't comparable at all?

For what it's worth, the debian control information has always been
present in tgz format, never in binary format.  The old .deb files
required a shell script and dd to extract the .tgz files, but it
wasn't a very complicated shell script.

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Re: Upgrade From RH 5.0 to Debian 2.0

1998-05-24 Thread storm
On Sat, 23 May 1998, David Lauder wrote:

 Thanks to everyone that responded! I'm now preparing for a clean
 install. Good riddance to Redhat.
 
 I've downloaded the base disk sets from /hamm/disks-i386/1998-04-26 
 rather than the /hamm/disks-i386/current. Is this okay?

I would recomend finding your favorite mirror of the incoming directory
(i.e. ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org://debian/Incoming/) and getting the latest
disk set from there (they are version 2.0.6).  The disks clean up several
problems with the earlier boot floppies.


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Re: Upgrade From RH 5.0 to Debian 2.0

1998-05-24 Thread Bob Hilliard
David Lauder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I've downloaded the base disk sets from /hamm/disks-i386/1998-04-26 
 rather than the /hamm/disks-i386/current. Is this okay?

 This is definitely better than current, which  mistakenly
points to 1988-04-11.  I believe the 1998-04-26 disks are version
2.0.5, which are usable, but have some minor problems.  The 2.0.6
disks, which are in Incoming, seem to be ready for prime time. 

 Not all mirrors include Incoming.  llug.sep.bnl.gov does, and I
think ftp1.us.debian.org does.

 Good Luck

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pon, ppp, pppd

1998-05-24 Thread VB Student
Anyone able to help?
When I use minicom I get a login prompt from my ISP then a password
prompt. All goes well but then I get some info such as current ip
address etc.
I get this info when I log in using win 95 and just hit F7. But what key
would be used in minicom. F7 doesn't work. 
Thanks


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Re: pon, ppp, pppd

1998-05-24 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 VS == VB Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

VS When I use minicom I get a login prompt from my ISP then a password
VS prompt. All goes well but then I get some info such as current ip
VS address etc.
VS I get this info when I log in using win 95 and just hit F7. But what key
VS would be used in minicom. F7 doesn't work. 

Follow the instructions at http://www.debian.org/fom/40.html
Using minicom to connect is rather clumpsy.

Ciao,
Martin


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NT: boot to Linux?

1998-05-24 Thread Gregory Guthrie
NT provides a boot manager, with a startup option to boot to various OS's,
clearly intended mainly for MSoft versions!

Can this be used to provide a boot to a Linux partition?

Thanks.

Greg Guthrie


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Re: NT: boot to Linux?

1998-05-24 Thread aqy6633
 NT provides a boot manager, with a startup option to boot to various OS's,
 clearly intended mainly for MSoft versions!
 
 Can this be used to provide a boot to a Linux partition?

Yes.

Check out Linux+NT-Loader mini-HOWTO.

Alex Y.

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Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, 23 May 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

  the same thing (while internally it does use .tgz and ar etc...

 I never said it was.  I was pointing out that SLP could be.

i doubt it.  tar doesn't need crap tacked onto the end of it.



 The fact is that .tgz is great for archives (and backups...  I use
 tar with my tape drive) but I (and many debian users) feel that dpkg
 makes a good packaging systemn and makes system adminitration allot
 easier (rpm does too, even tho most people here don't like to admit
 it :) )

 Never said it wasn't.  But what people who look at SLP and the fact
 that it is just a TGZ with information at the end are looking at is
 not just this system or that system it is all systems as a whole.

IMO people who look at SLP and see that, just don't get the big picture.
there is a lot more to a distribution than just compiling some binaries.



 RPMs are nice, but outside Red Hat they're not fun.  DEB, same thing.
 Unless you have the package manager that comes along with it, they
 never really get used.  

wrong. they can be used by anyone with a brain who is willing to learn
a simple command or two. ar and tar are on every unix so deb packages
are no problem. rpm2cpio is easily compiled on any unix, and cpio is
standard so rpms aren't much trouble either.

this still doesn't get you anything which is worthwhile - in most cases
it is too dangerous to install a redhat package on a debian system or
debian package on stamped or slackware or slackware onto debian. as i
said, there's a lot more to a distribution than just compiling some
binaries.


 SLP, without the package manager, *CAN* be used by anyone who is used
 to tar.

so what? like, big deal. in other words, who cares? what use is that?

debian users are going to use dpkg because they don't want cruft from a
.tar.gz or .slp screwing up their package-managed system.

redhat users are going to use rpm because they don't want cruft from a
.tar.gz or .slp screwing up their package-managed system.

ditto for caldera and suse users.

slackware users don't matter. in my experience, slackware users are
either clueless newbies who will have trouble even with tar, or they are
rabid do-it-yourselfers who wouldn't install someone else's pre-compiled
binary even if they were paid to do it.

stampede users matter even less - slp is their native package format, so
the issue of foreign packages doesn't even arise.


so, given all that, what *use* is this much touted ability to easily
install on another system? what good does it actually do?




btw, it is trivial to install a deb package on a non-debian
systemit is a stupid thing to want to do (because .deb packages are
designed for debian systems and may conflict with or overwrite curcial
parts of your non-debian system...same as .rpm and .tar.gz and .slp
packages are designed for their respective distributions).

anyway, it's a stupid thing to want to do but it is easyas simple
as:

cd /
ar x PACKAGE.deb data.tar.gz
tar xfz data.tar.gz

note the similarity in the command line arguments for ar and tar. from
your other messages it seems as if you believe that 'ar' is some sort
of weird, non-standard archiving format. it's not. it's been around for
years. in fact, it was around long before tar. tar was based on ar, as a
tape backup utility. ar == archive. tar == tape archive. in other words,
any unix system will have ar on it.




 Even if we all just used .tgz archives and SLP, this makes the
 question of it moot because yes, you don't need the extra stuff
 you can just unpack it, but if you don't use SLP, then 
 unpack it with .tar.gz...it is still possible that what you unpack
 will not intergrate well with your system
 
 Correct.  But, again, my scope is beyond any one system.

i think you haven't spent much (if any) time at all, thinking about the
issues involved in managing multiple systems.



 It isn't the fact that they are available but the fact that most
 people are unaware of their use.  You know, I've been using Linux
 for over two years and until this discussion I've never heard of ar?
 Until a discussion I had on the newsgroups about RPM a while back I
 was unaware of cpio.  The while time I have used tgz.

if you don't even know about these programs, then what makes you qualified
to comment on then?

having opinions is finebut please try to make them *INFORMED*
opinions before spreading them around to others.  Quite often, this is
as simple as just reading and listening and learning something before
opening your mouth - i.e. learn-by-lurking.


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Re: How can I make this done? Orig:Re: where's the 'man'?

1998-05-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, 23 May 1998, Jonah Kuo wrote:

 I have a win95 and two FreeBSD boxes ( called Fa and Fb) in my office,
 Fa has a modem connecting to Internet, Fb and win95 access Internet
 through Fa. Since only pppd comes with debian base system, all I can
  ^

this is incorrect. the debian base disks included drivers for many
(all??) ethernet cards, ppp, slip, and probably plip too.

if you have a linux-supported network card in your notebook, you should
be able to do a network installthis will be MUCH less trouble than
getting ppp running.


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Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-24 Thread Norbert Veber
 The best solution is a unified mail/news reader application ofcourse
 that can let you read mailing lists as newsgroups. Only emacs (with GNUs)
 can do that now AFAIK and I do not want to learn emacs..

have you ever looked at mutt?


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Re: System.map

1998-05-24 Thread Chris


Just a thought - when I compile and installed my own kernel, I used the
zImage kernel.  I played with make-kpkg, and this wants to put the
files vmlinuz  vmlinux in /boot.  Would using zImage instead of
vmlinux cause problems?  How do I produce vmlinux from the kernel source?

BTW, I can't see any install options in the kernel makefile.  I just
followed the instructions in the readme, which were to:

make config
make clean; make dep
make zImage
make modules
make modules-install
cp arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot

modify lilo to include /boot/zImage


The README doesn't mention anything about System.map :(

Thanks for any information,

Chris





On Sun, 24 May 1998, Bill Mitchell wrote:

 Off the top of my head ---
 
 That file gives the memory addresses of symbolic variables used in
 the kernel.  The memory contents of the kernel data in these variables
 can then be found by looking at the appropriate offset in /dev/kmem.
 It's messy, but it's effective.
 
 The lsof program needs to peek at internal kernel data in this way to
 find the info on what files are open.
 
 I believe that the System.map file gets put in place properly if
 you use the kernel makefile to install the kernel you've built.
 I don't have a machine with a kernel source tree handy to check how
 to do that, but it should not be too hard to figure out by looking
 at the docs in the source tree or reading the makefiles.  Perhaps
 it's as simple as typing make install, or make Zinstall, or somesuch.
 
 Also, there is a debian package named kernel-package which provides
 a means to build .deb format binary kernel packages for you from the
 source tree you have installed. You can then use dpkg to install the
 kernel, and put the System.map file in place that way.  I participated in
 a debian-devel discussion about the internals of this six or eight months
 ago, and that discussion produced plans to enhance the kernel-package
 package so as to support installing multiple alternative kernels of the
 same kernel version (something it could not handle at that time).  I am
 just getting back into debian after a long absence from the project, and
 I'm not sure of the current status of kernel-package (or, for that
 matter, of quite a few other things).
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 On Sun, 24 May 1998, Chris wrote:
 
  
  
  Hi,
  
  I was wondering if somebody could give me an idea of what the System.map
  file is for?  I've allways compiled my own kernels, and never had to worry
  about this file (never had any problems).  However I tried to use the
  command lsof, and it complains that it can't find a System.map file to
  match my currently booted kernel.
  
  What does this mean - and how can it be rectified?  I've looked through
  the docs and it doesn't appear to be mentioned.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Chris
  
  
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Re: ppp speed

1998-05-24 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 08:45:40AM -0400, Thomas J. Malloy wrote:
 Well I finally got ppp to work again.  Ok, I confess I had to reinstall
 the os.  Anyway I have a question.  How do I determine what speed my
 modem is making the ppp connection at and how do I maximize it?
   
 Thank you

use the plog command or look at /var/log/ppp.log


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Re: wishx

1998-05-24 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 06:32:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Which debian package provides 'wishx'? (Trying to run tk3play,
 wm-tk3play).

According to the Contents-i386.gz file, there are several wishx's namely:
usr/bin/wishx7.4 libs/tclx74
usr/bin/wishx7.5 libs/tclx75
usr/bin/wishx7.6  interpreters/tclx76



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Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-24 Thread Michael Shields
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Proprietary -- what in the heck could possibly be proprietary about
  Debian? We need to clear this confusing mess up NOW!!!
 
 As I meant it, is not really meant to be used outside of Debian or at least
 dpkg enabled dists..  Better?

`Specific' would be a less loaded choice of word.
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Re: NT: boot to Linux?

1998-05-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 08:59:47PM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
 NT provides a boot manager, with a startup option to boot to various OS's,
 clearly intended mainly for MSoft versions!
 
 Can this be used to provide a boot to a Linux partition?

Absolutely; find (and use) BOOTPART, BOOTPA20.ZIP.
I have Linux and FreeBSD both booting from the NT menu. It can also set it
up so you can boot both 95 and DOS directly, instead of going via 95's
menu.

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Reinstalling required packages with dselect

1998-05-24 Thread Jim Rogers




I accidentally overwrote /bin/more (using  
instead of |), and dselect won't let me reinstall the package that contains it 
(util-linux) because it is already installed. I can't uninstall it because it is 
a required package. How did I get back MORE?
Thanks,
Jim


Re: Reinstalling required packages with dselect

1998-05-24 Thread Adam Heath

First, fix your mailer so it wraps lines at about 75.

On Sun, 24 May 1998, Jim Rogers wrote:

 I accidentally overwrote /bin/more (using  instead of |), and dselect won't 
 let me reinstall the package that contains it (util-linux) because it is 
 already installed. I can't uninstall it because it is a required package. How 
 did I get back MORE?

Download more.deb yourself.  Then dpkg -i it.

Adam



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Re: Reinstalling required packages with dselect

1998-05-24 Thread Adam Heath


On Sun, 24 May 1998, Adam Heath wrote:

 
 First, fix your mailer so it wraps lines at about 75.
 
 On Sun, 24 May 1998, Jim Rogers wrote:
 
  I accidentally overwrote /bin/more (using  instead of |), and dselect 
  won't let me reinstall the package that contains it (util-linux) because it 
  is already installed. I can't uninstall it because it is a required 
  package. How did I get back MORE?
 
 Download more.deb yourself.  Then dpkg -i it.

Doh.  I'm an idiot.  I need more sleep.

It should be util-linux.deb.

Adam(who's face is red)




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Re: wishx

1998-05-24 Thread timothy
Cool. Thanx.
Any particular reason wishx8.0 isn't debianized?
 
 According to the Contents-i386.gz file, there are several wishx's namely:
 usr/bin/wishx7.4 libs/tclx74
 usr/bin/wishx7.5 libs/tclx75
 usr/bin/wishx7.6  interpreters/tclx76
 

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Re: SB16 install configure

1998-05-24 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 How do I enable my SB16 card?  I did not see a option during the base
 install.  I have seen AWE32 stuff, but I don't think that is the same
 thing.
 
 Where  how do I setup my card?

 Umm, it's pretty similar to AWE, but you just leave out the AWE spesific 
stuff. 
 To put it short: you'll have to compile kernel again and include the sound 
 options in. If it is pnp card, you'll have to install and configure the 
isapnptools
 package. 

 There are few documents that are good to read before starting: Sound-HOWTO
 and Soundblaster-16 mini-HOWTO that you can find under /usr/doc/HOWTO
 if you have installed the HOWTO-documents package. 

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 BTW, are there sound modules in the standard kernel package, anybody ?



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Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-24 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 On Sat, 23 May 1998 16:25:46 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
 
 The other data in Debian's case is stuff like dependency information,
 installation and removal scripts, and the maintainer's contact address.

 Proprietary to Debian...
^

 That's a pretty flamboyant choice of word around here. Maybe you ment
 spesific to Debian ? ;)

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Debian 2.0 FAQ

1998-05-24 Thread Wolfgang Gernot Bauer
Hi,

Im looking for the Debian2.0 upgrade-FAQ. Does anyone know where it is?

Btw. Is upgrading better than reinstalling? 

Thanx, Gernot
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Delivery errors

1998-05-24 Thread Steve Lamb
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Arrival-date: Sun, 24 May 1998 11:08:44 GMT

Anyone else getting these?


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Re: Delivery errors

1998-05-24 Thread M.C. Vernon
Steve, 

Yes, I got one - 


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 24 11:38:30 1998
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:37:39 + (GMT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

Report on your message to: /R=AM/U=sslillg/@mr.geccs.gecm.com
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Diagnostic: Maximum time expired (5)
Extension-id: 1
Arrival-date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:37:39 GMT

I guess that mean that it never got anywhere.. :(

Matthew

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Re: IPX support

1998-05-24 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear Leonardo,

I'm sending this again. Hopefully it will get to you this time :)

Matthew


From: M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Leonardo Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Debian-User debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: IPX support


 SOS - EMERGENCY   
:( 
   I'm trying to use the Linux IPX support in a Debian BOX wich should
 bakup out my NCPmounted servers.
:)
   I've succesfully used the Red Hat with ipx support but when I've tried
 to execute any ipx commands (ipx_configure, ipx_interface) the system
 answer as
 
 cariri#ipx_configure ...
 ipx: socket: Invalid Argument
 
 And never comes up.
 
   I've tried to deinstall reinstall several times IPX support with
 dselect and have instaled Debian so much times.
 
   I'm currently using the 2.0.30 stable kernel. But scaned the CD with
 the dselect utility and instaled the new IPX. How do I fix up it???

I think you have to recompile the kernel with IPX support. Have fun :)

HTH,

Matthew


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Re: NT: boot to Linux?

1998-05-24 Thread C.L.Daugaard
Try http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~sedmison/directboot.html

On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 08:59:47PM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
 NT provides a boot manager, with a startup option to boot to various OS's,
 clearly intended mainly for MSoft versions!
 
 Can this be used to provide a boot to a Linux partition?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Greg Guthrie
 
 
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Re: NT: boot to Linux?--correction

1998-05-24 Thread C.L.Daugaard
Sorry for the stale link.  Use this instead:

http://www.bcpl.net/~dbryan/directboot.html


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Re: Debian 2.0 FAQ

1998-05-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 24 May 1998, Wolfgang Gernot Bauer wrote:

 Im looking for the Debian2.0 upgrade-FAQ. Does anyone know where it is?

if you are referring to the HOWTO, then you can get it from my autoup
site.

http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/
or
http://taz.net.au/autoup/


i don't know if Scott has updated this HOWTO lately or not...but there
is a link to his site in the howto.

in any case, you probably want to run the autoup.sh script rather than
follow the HOWTO. autoup.sh does everything that's in the howto and more
(and has been kept up to date).


 Btw. Is upgrading better than reinstalling? 

yes. that's one of the advantages of debian :-)you never have to
reformat and reinstall ever again (barring hard disk failure, of course)

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Re: Delivery errors

1998-05-24 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 24 May 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote:


I got about four...

 Steve, 
 
   Yes, I got one - 
 
 
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 24 11:38:30 1998
 Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:37:39 + (GMT)
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed
 
 Report on your message to: /R=AM/U=sslillg/@mr.geccs.gecm.com
 Reason: Failed to transfer; communications failure (0)
 Diagnostic: Maximum time expired (5)
 Extension-id: 1
 Arrival-date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:37:39 GMT
 
 I guess that mean that it never got anywhere.. :(
 
 Matthew
 
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Re: !!! URGENT !!! Can't boot back to Win95

1998-05-24 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, 22 May 1998, Brian Weiss wrote:

 
 
 On Sat, 23 May 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
 
  On Fri, 22 May 1998, Ionut Borcoman at musa wrote:
  
   Hi,
   
   Unfortunately, I've panicked and reinstalled all Win95. Fortunately, all
   my personal data and files are on a different partition (sda5 and sda6)
   so nothing important was lost, excepting my time and yours. With this
   occasion I have also changed sda1 from FAT32 to VFAT as my newly 2.0.33
   kernel didn't recognize it. Any idea about this ? The original kernel
   that come with hamm had had no problem to mount that partition.
  
  If you downloaded it not in .deb form, the patch for FAT32 support is not
  included... The .deb version does... I had to figure that out about 3
  weeks ago..
  
 
 I would really suggest not using .deb kernels. The reason they have FAT32
 support is because they are just the standard default bins. They are not
 configured to run on your system. They therefore are not very high
 performance. They usually take up way too much memory because they include
 all kinds of things you probably dont even have. It is always good to
 compile your own kernels. Try it, you'll find it makes a HUGE difference. 
 
   Brian
 

What I really meant was to use the .deb kernel sources... But thats my
fault.. I didnt make that clear.


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Re: Debian 2.0 FAQ

1998-05-24 Thread Wolfgang Gernot Bauer
Hi Craig, 

thanx for the prompt reply.

Craig Sanders wrote:
 On Sun, 24 May 1998, Wolfgang Gernot Bauer wrote:
  Im looking for the Debian2.0 upgrade-FAQ. Does anyone know where it is?
 
 if you are referring to the HOWTO, then you can get it from my autoup
 site.
 
 http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/
 or
 http://taz.net.au/autoup/
Yup. I meant the HOWTO...

 i don't know if Scott has updated this HOWTO lately or not...but there
 is a link to his site in the howto.
 
 in any case, you probably want to run the autoup.sh script rather than
 follow the HOWTO. autoup.sh does everything that's in the howto and more
 (and has been kept up to date).
There is one problem with the autoup.sh when using
ftp-installation-method. 

I used ftp.debian.org as mirror and the slang-lib was not found (and not
downloaded). 
It worked after downloading the slang-package from
/pub/debian/hamm/binaries-i386/base and putting it into the
/tmp/libs-directory.

Thanx again, Gernot
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Re: Is this a compiler error?

1998-05-24 Thread jdassen
On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 08:54:35PM +0200, Oliver Elphick wrote:
 +++
 linda:~/cprogs/priory$ ldd prdb 
 prdb: error in loading shared libraries
 prdb: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 +++
 (why did that not work, while the next command did? it is the same executable)

No. Not necessarily. ldd has a weird method of searching, where the current
directory is the last in the search path. So if there is a prdb in the
search path, but outside the current dir, you get the results of ldd on
that.

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Re: HTML ToC generators?

1998-05-24 Thread Frank Barknecht
John Goerzen hat gesagt: // John Goerzen wrote:

 I have a large collection of webpages and I am looking for something
 to generate a Table of Contents (eg, site index).  I don't need a
 search tool -- something that just spits out HTML will be fine.
 
 Any ideas where to find such a thing?

Maybe the debian package wml could help you. This is a large collection
of tools to make a webmaster's life easier. It takes some getting used to,
though.
After installation take a look at the man page for wml::std::toc
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Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-24 Thread Raul Miller
 On Sat, 23 May 1998 16:25:46 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
 The other data in Debian's case is stuff like dependency information,
 installation and removal scripts, and the maintainer's contact address.

Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Proprietary to Debian...

Note to self: The debian administrator's guide needs an appendix on
broken-system maneuvers. This would, after appropriate disclaimers,
delve into the file formats of the current packaging system for cases
where the files have been damaged, and/or where the dpkg suite isn't
available. Make sure to discuss issues not handled by these techniques,
and make sure to reference the chapter on how to write bug reports
(since presumably something would be broken for these techniques to
be needed).

[As so many people have already pointed out that ar is not proprietary
to Debian, I hope I don't have to delve further into this issue at this
time.]

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angband save problems

1998-05-24 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear debian people,

I (mcv21) when sat at my computer can play angband, exit, and
later restart with the same character. Other users when they exit cannot
access the high-score table, and when they restart, they have to
regenerate their characters. They have save files in
/usr/lib/games/angband just like me. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Matthew

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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-24 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 24 May 1998 16:22:56 +0100 (BST), M.C. Vernon wrote:

   I (mcv21) when sat at my computer can play angband, exit, and
later restart with the same character. Other users when they exit cannot
access the high-score table, and when they restart, they have to
regenerate their characters. They have save files in
/usr/lib/games/angband just like me. Any ideas?

What are the permissions on the files and on the executable itself?  Who
owns it?

When I set up angband on Slack I chown'd it to games:users and had it
SUID.  All the data files were also chowned to games:users.  Didn't have any
problems with it running that way.  However, if it weren't set that way it
wouldn't reload characters properly.  

I'm not sure how the Debian install sets it up, still using the copy I
installed under Slack.


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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-24 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Sun, 24 May 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

 On Sun, 24 May 1998 16:22:56 +0100 (BST), M.C. Vernon wrote:
 
  I (mcv21) when sat at my computer can play angband, exit, and
 later restart with the same character. Other users when they exit cannot
 access the high-score table, and when they restart, they have to
 regenerate their characters. They have save files in
 /usr/lib/games/angband just like me. Any ideas?
 
 What are the permissions on the files and on the executable itself?  Who
 owns it?

-rwxr-sr-x   1root games 494780 Mar 9 19:28 angband

(do I need to chown games angband? and is that how I do it?)

-rw-r--r--  1 apc27 games34406 May24 14:18 1002.Apc27

Permissions are the same as my save file (name 1000.mcv21 and mcv21
instead of apc27)

Thanks for your time,

Matthew


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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-24 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 24 May 1998 16:48:33 +0100 (BST), M.C. Vernon wrote:

-rwxr-sr-x   1root games 494780 Mar 9 19:28 angband

-rwxr-xr-x   1 gamesusers  427012 Mar 29 07:09 angband

-rw-r--r-- 1 apc27 games34406 May24 14:18 1002.Apc27

-rw-r--r--   1 gamesusers   38353 May 23 01:45 1000.Morpheus
-rw-r--r--   1 gamesusers   42401 Mar 24 02:46 1000.PLAYER
-rw-r--r--   1 gamesusers   35738 Mar 23 00:16 1001.PLAYER

(do I need to chown games angband? and is that how I do it?)

Yes, that is how you do it.  However, as to whether or not that would
help, or is advisable, I'm not sure.  Your executable is set GUID.  Hrm.  But
the files are not set to group writable.  Maybe that is the problem.

Permissions are the same as my save file (name 1000.mcv21 and mcv21
instead of apc27)

They're all in angband/lib/save, right?


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the boot disk's kernel

1998-05-24 Thread Wakko Warner
I have noticed that the boot disk for debian contains support for fat32
drives, yet 2.0.33 does not have this support.  What has been done in the
kernel to support fat32?

P.S.  Sorry if I sent this again, my mailer daemon has been dead for a week
=(  Please re-reply to this.


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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-24 Thread M.C. Vernon

 Yes, that is how you do it.  However, as to whether or not that would
 help, or is advisable, I'm not sure.  Your executable is set GUID.  Hrm.  But
 the files are not set to group writable.  Maybe that is the problem.
 
 Permissions are the same as my save file (name 1000.mcv21 and mcv21
 instead of apc27)
 
 They're all in angband/lib/save, right?

Nope  /var/lib/games/angband/save/

Interestingly, character dumps fail as well

Matthew

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[Fwd: Returned mail: Insufficient permission: Error 0]

1998-05-24 Thread David A. Bandel
I believe the original post came from debian-user.  Not sure wha'
'appened at Chris' end.

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The System.map file should be put in / or in /boot with a symlink from /.

You don't really need the System.map except for debugging purposes, although at
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Re: Debian 2.0 FAQ

1998-05-24 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 24, 1998 at 01:02:43PM +0200, Wolfgang Gernot Bauer wrote:
 Im looking for the Debian2.0 upgrade-FAQ. Does anyone know where it is?

Attached to email.

 Btw. Is upgrading better than reinstalling? 

Unless you have a reason to reinstall, ie I plan to reinstall at some point
so I can get a fresh set of good partitions now that I know how much space I
-USE- on different partitions..


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RE: Reinstalling required packages with dselect

1998-05-24 Thread Darren Benham
Unless you don't like less for some reason, I'd just copy /usr/bin/less ontop
of /bin/more and use less, instead.

On 24-May-98 Jim Rogers wrote:
 I accidentally overwrote /bin/more (using  instead of |), and dselect won't
 let me reinstall the package that contains it (util-linux) because it is
 already installed. I can't uninstall it because it is a required package. How
 did I get back MORE?
 Thanks,
 Jim

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RE: the boot disk's kernel

1998-05-24 Thread Darren Benham

On 24-May-98 Wakko Warner wrote:
 I have noticed that the boot disk for debian contains support for fat32
 drives, yet 2.0.33 does not have this support.  What has been done in the
 kernel to support fat32?

The 2.0.34 kernel will have FAT32 support (all the prePatches do) officially.
 Debian's kernel has had a patch applied, I believe, to provide the support.
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Debian and w95 after adding memory

1998-05-24 Thread Eugene Sevinian
Hi all,
I just upgrated my PC to 32M which has only 8M before. Now I can run w95
only in safe mode. At the same time everything is OK with Debian!
During the normal w95 mode I got nothing but blue screen with:
Fatal exeption OE occured at 0028:C0026240 in   VXD VFAT(01) +
73B9.

Though I feel some kind of malicious joy, however I need to forth it to 
load in normal way. I mean as it was before, even it was abnormal :) 

Does someone have any glue?

Thanks in advance,

Eugene Sevinian


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off-topic - netscape

1998-05-24 Thread Chris Zander
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hi,
I know this might seem a little off-topic, but I consider this mailing list a
good place to ask questions since most of them get answered quickly.

I've been using the Netscape Communicator for Linux for quite some time now and
have always wondered if there is some way to make it use dynamic fonts - or at
least make its fonts look better. I always figured there was no official support
of dynamic fonts for Linux Netscapes, however two things make me wonder if this
is true:
- firstly I noticed that I can get a popup menu from within 
   Communicator listing all installed font-displayers. There
   are none right now, but if there aren't any available, why
   does this menu exist then?
- secondly I find it hard to believe that this fairly old and
   established chunk of software does not support what for
   instance the KDE webbrowser supports.

Is there really no way of making the linux version of netscape dynamic fonts?

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Re: wishx

1998-05-24 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sun, May 24, 1998 at 03:43:48AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cool. Thanx.
 Any particular reason wishx8.0 isn't debianized?

I dont know, try asking the maintainer..


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Re: the boot disk's kernel

1998-05-24 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sun, May 24, 1998 at 12:08:02PM -0400, Wakko Warner wrote:
 I have noticed that the boot disk for debian contains support for fat32
 drives, yet 2.0.33 does not have this support.  What has been done in the
 kernel to support fat32?
 
 P.S.  Sorry if I sent this again, my mailer daemon has been dead for a week
 =(  Please re-reply to this.

You might find the mailing list archives usefull in this case, they are on
www.debian.org under the support section..


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jdk

1998-05-24 Thread tony mollica
Hi.

There are two directories in the debian ftp site for java,
one 'sbb-port' and the other 'sn-port'.  Can someone 
enlighten me on what the difference is between these 
two directories and the files contained in them.

Which one should I use for 2.0.33 debian 1.3.1r6?

thanks,
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Re: Reinstalling required packages with dselect

1998-05-24 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 24, 1998 at 10:22:15AM -0700, Darren Benham wrote:
 Unless you don't like less for some reason, I'd just copy /usr/bin/less 
 ontop
 of /bin/more and use less, instead.

Nononononono...

more works on ANY terminal.  less does not.


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Re: off-topic - netscape

1998-05-24 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 24, 1998 at 09:51:56PM +0200, Chris Zander wrote:
 I've been using the Netscape Communicator for Linux for quite some time now 
 and
 have always wondered if there is some way to make it use dynamic fonts - or at
 least make its fonts look better. I always figured there was no official 
 support
 of dynamic fonts for Linux Netscapes, however two things make me wonder if 
 this
 is true:
   - firstly I noticed that I can get a popup menu from within 
  Communicator listing all installed font-displayers. There
  are none right now, but if there aren't any available, why
  does this menu exist then?
   - secondly I find it hard to believe that this fairly old and
  established chunk of software does not support what for
  instance the KDE webbrowser supports.
 
 Is there really no way of making the linux version of netscape dynamic fonts?

You can make it use a font server.  If you're running hamm it should be
possible to grab and set up the slink package xfstt.  Wait for a few days
for the new version to circulate out to everyone.  Then you can happily use
TrueType fonts and call it good enough.


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Re: the boot disk's kernel

1998-05-24 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 24 May 1998 12:08:02 -0400, Wakko Warner wrote:

I have noticed that the boot disk for debian contains support for fat32
drives, yet 2.0.33 does not have this support.  What has been done in the
kernel to support fat32?

The kernel has had the fat32 patch applied to it.


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Re: angband save problems

1998-05-24 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sun, 24 May 1998 17:19:37 +0100 (BST), M.C. Vernon wrote:

 They're all in angband/lib/save, right?

Nope  /var/lib/games/angband/save/

Hrm, ok.  Lemme install the Debianized version to look at it more.  


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Re: Debian and w95 after adding memory

1998-05-24 Thread George R
On 05/24/98 at 10:49 PM, Eugene Sevinian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

Hi all,
I just upgrated my PC to 32M which has only 8M before. Now I can run
w95 only in safe mode. At the same time everything is OK with Debian!
During the normal w95 mode I got nothing but blue screen with: Fatal
exeption OE occured at 0028:C0026240 in   VXD VFAT(01) + 73B9.

Though I feel some kind of malicious joy, however I need to forth it to
 load in normal way. I mean as it was before, even it was abnormal :) 

Does someone have any glue?

Well, I have found the best way to fix Win95's odd-ball behavior is to
re-install the OS.  But before going to that extreme: re-seat the RAM,
in the BIOS ensure autodetect/configure is enabled, then PRAY.

Now reinstall Win95.

George

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Re: [Offtopic] Linux Logo Q

1998-05-24 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sat, 23 May 1998, George Bonser wrote:

 I once saw an animated .gif of Tux that looked exactly like the official
 Tux except his eyes would blink at about 10-15 second intervals.  

http://www.resnet.wm.edu/~bhmit1/img/penguineyes.gif

Brandon

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Re: Cannot link ossmixer (KDE application) on hamm

1998-05-24 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I've managed to cimpile ossmixer. The thing that was missing from my
Makefile was the -lXext (I've seen this in the Makefile for qtez, a nice
RAD tool for qt). So, my Makefile has these lines now:

### Makefile for ossmixer 1.0 KDE Version
###

INCDIR  =   /usr/include/qt -I/usr/include/kde
CFLAGS  =   -O2 
LFLAGS  =   -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lqt -lkdecore -lkdeui -lXext 
CC  =   g++
MOC =   moc

Ionutz


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Re: Is this a compiler error?

1998-05-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
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  On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 08:54:35PM +0200, Oliver Elphick wrote:
   +++
   linda:~/cprogs/priory$ ldd prdb 
   prdb: error in loading shared libraries
   prdb: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
   +++
   (why did that not work, while the next command did? it is the same executa
  ble)
  
  No. Not necessarily. ldd has a weird method of searching, where the current
  directory is the last in the search path. So if there is a prdb in the
  search path, but outside the current dir, you get the results of ldd on
  that.
  
In this case, there is only one file; it is not a case of two different
executables being found.

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Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Rev == Rev Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Rev [1  text/plain; us-ascii (8bit)]
 Rev On Fri, May 22, 1998 at 03:37:44PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 George It is a lot easier to follow a high-traffic list with a
 George newsreader than it is a mail reader.
  
  Yes. I agree. What does this have to do with gateways, though?
  Why *don't* people just read mailing lists with news readers? 

 Rev There are no easy to set up news servers and you need a server before you
 Rev can use a gateway as I understand it..

As I asked, what does reading mailing lists with news readers
 have to do with gateways? I read all debian-* mailing lists with my
 news reader. Nary a gateway in sight.

manoj

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