¿Compresion bz2?
Hola a todos, Buscando en internet manuales de esto y aquello, me encuentro con ficheros tar.gz y tar.bz2 . ¿Que formato de compresion es este? ¿Es mas eficiente que el gzip? ¿Con que comandos comprimo y descomprimo? Gracias, Octavio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Procesador de textos
Creo que te refieres al StarOffice4.0 No, no me refera al StarOffice 4.0 sino a uno realmente muy parecido a word, casi igualito, es un proyecto (o era..., no s) que pretende realizar un procesador de textos igual a word para linux lo que pasa es que no me acuerdo donde lo vi ni si era GNU o no. Saludos, J. Parera
Re: Procesador de textos
StarOffice *no* es software libre, y desde luego, no es de GNU. Es de una empresa (creo que alemana), que distribuye gratis la versi'on binaria para Linux. La licencia dice que se puede utilizar para evaluaci'on, y creo recordar que tambi'en para uso personal. Pero prohibe extresamente cosas como instalarlo en un serividor de ficheros o utlizarlo para el trabajo normal en una empresa... Por lo dem'as, la pinta que tiene es muy buena, y tiene cierto grado de interoperabilidad con ficheros creados por MS-Office... Jesus. Octavio Rodriguez Perez writes: J. Parera wrote: Alguien me puede recomendar un procesador de textos GNU, que no sea LaTeX, que no ocupe demasiados MB's? Hay alguno en la distribución de Debian 1.3.1, yo no lo encuentro...? Hace tiempo vi uno que se parecia *mucho* (prácticamente igual) al word 7 u 8. Saben cuál es? Y si lo conocen es GNU? Ocupa muchos MB's? Me lo recomiendan? Esta aún en fase beta o ya es estable? Un saludo, J. Parera Creo que te refieres al StarOffice4.0 Lo puedes bajar de: ftp://slug.ctv.es/pub/slug/luis/so40_lnx_01.tar.gz No se si es de GNU, y sobre el tamaño, esta bien. Comprimido ocupa unos 4.5 MB Octavio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesus M. Gonzalez Barahona | Grupo de Sistemas y Comunicaciones tel +3491 624 9458, fax +3491 624 9430 | Departamento de Informatica [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Universidad Carlos III de Madrid http://www.gsyc.inf.uc3m.es/~jgb | c/ Butarque, 15, 28911 Leganes, Spain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Net Card...
Hola a todos... Acabo de instalar Debian 1.3.1 en mi PC y me gustaria conectarlo a la Red de mi oficina (TOKEN RING). Tengo una targeta MADGE PRESTO Token Ring (puerto PCI), colocada en uno de los puertos PCI de mi PC. Mi pregunta es como puedo hacer para configurar esa targeta en Linux y hacer que entre a red... (como asignarle una dirección IP, DNS, Gateway, Router ETC...) Les agradezco cualquier ayuda que me puedan prestar... RAFAEL CASTILLO MEJIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compilacion del kernel 2.0.34 con emulacion scsi no va.
Estoy intentando compilar el kernel 2.0.34 con la opcion de emulacion-scsi para que me controle una grabadora HP 7100i pero me he encontrado con el siguiente problema. Tras configurar con make menuconfig y al hace make-kpkg sale el error siguiente: --- gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o ide.o ide.c In file included from ide.c:311: ide.h:69: #error SCSI must also be selected make[4]: *** [ide.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/drivers/block' make[3]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/drivers/block' make[2]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/drivers' make[1]: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34' make: *** [all] Error 2 --- la linea famosa pone: -- #if defined(CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI) !defined(CONFIG_SCSI) #error SCSI must also be selected #endif --- Pero en el fichero .config si tengo definido CONFIG_SCSI # # SCSI support # CONFIG_SCSI=m Da igual que ponga y o m ya que el error es el mismo. Alguien ha podido compilar la emulacion SCSI?? Lo de comentar el mensaje tampoco da resultado. -- Antonio Calvo Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Del man a un fichero
Hola, ¿Como puedo mandar la salida del man a un fichero? Una simple redireccion, no vale porque me salen todos los codigos, es decir, no sale un fichero limpio. Octavio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Del man a un fichero
Octavio Rodriguez Perez wrote: Hola, ¿Como puedo mandar la salida del man a un fichero? Una simple redireccion, no vale porque me salen todos los codigos, es decir, no sale un fichero limpio. Octavio Prueba con man2html, el cual convierte paginas de man en HTML. Puedes guardar la salida del programa en un fichero y luego visualizarlo con Netscape por ejemplo. O si no, puedes probar con rman, el cual es capaz de convertir paginas de man en varios formatos, entre ellos Latex, ASCII, HTML y RTF. Saludos, JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALCarmen Sevilla en el Telecupón se dirige, UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I simpática ella, a una televidente: DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMATICA CAMPUS DE PENYETA ROJA C.S.: ¿Y tú de qué trabajas? CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.T.: Soy parapléjica. Phone: +34 964 345771 (4816)C.S.: ¡Caramba! ¡qué profesión tan bonita! Fax: +34 964 345848 T.: No, es una enfermedad ... e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.S.: ¡Vaya! ... pues ¡que te mejores pronto! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No consigo conectarme a internet
Al ejecutar pppd en unos dos segundos se oye marcar el modem pero al cabo de unos dos-cuatro segundos más se corta la conexión, no sé a que es debido pero he probado con varios scripts y nunca he conseguido pasar de esto. Les he adjuntado los scripts junto con algún ficherito de más (/var/log/messages). Les agradecería que me dijesen que es lo que hago mal. Utilizo un modem SupraExpress 33.6 y conexión con Teleline a través de infovia. Un saludo, J. Parera P.D. Si alguien tambien utiliza Teleline como proveedor le agradecería que me enviase sus scripts. no_ppp_on_boot Description: Binary data Messages Description: Binary data Ls-l Description: Binary data infovia.chat Description: Binary data connect-errors Description: Binary data resolv.conf Description: Binary data pap-secrets Description: Binary data options.ttyXX Description: Binary data Options Description: Binary data
Re: Del man a un fichero
Octavio Rodriguez Perez wrote: Hola, ¿Como puedo mandar la salida del man a un fichero? $ man -Tlatin1 man man.txt Marcelo PS: $ man man $ man troff ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No consigo conectarme a internet
A mi me parece todo correcto, solo lo que me mosquea es el fichero connect-errors, que parece decir algo asi como que el infovia.chat no ha funcionado bien, yo lo que haria seria poner mas depuracion (opcion debug en el fichero options), y mirar que va sucendiendo con 'plog' (que vuelca los mensajes de ppp diregidos al log, i.e. el messages que nos has enviado)... si ejecutas 'plog -f' en lugar de salir solo las diez ultimas lineas y cortar no cortara y te ira mostrando paso a paso los mensajes enviados. Para mi que el problema se debe a la conexion, es decir al momento de marcar el modem, como se ve por el alarm del chat en el Messages, pero al no estar suficientemente detallado no lo puedo asegurarlo. Pero me da la impresion que tendrias que inicializar el modem con el comando AT correspondiente. Has probado a ejecutar minicom y marcar a mano sobre el modem? Yo tengo un Supra tambien y menos mal que me di cuenta que para inicializarlo utilizaba un comando AT distinto a otros modems (vease US Robotics). Para terminar, y haciendo propaganda de mi mismo (g :) en el Linux Actual de mayo tienes un articulo sobre como conectarte con el modem a Internet (escrito por un servidor). Un saludo Javi On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, J. Parera wrote: Al ejecutar pppd en unos dos segundos se oye marcar el modem pero al cabo de unos dos-cuatro segundos más se corta la conexión, no sé a que es debido pero he probado con varios scripts y nunca he conseguido pasar de esto. Les he adjuntado los scripts junto con algún ficherito de más (/var/log/messages). Les agradecería que me dijesen que es lo que hago mal. Utilizo un modem SupraExpress 33.6 y conexión con Teleline a través de infovia. Un saludo, J. Parera P.D. Si alguien tambien utiliza Teleline como proveedor le agradecería que me enviase sus scripts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fresh install. Little troubles.
hello Julian, first we have to get your base system up. You have to decide if you want libc5 (bo) or libc6 (hamm) It is not a good idea to have half and half. To upgrade to hamm there is a howto that tells you how to upgrade from libc5 to libc6. It is on the debian site somewhere. Once you have that sorted out you can get the programs that you want to install. the trick is to go to the hamm directory structure and get the libc5 and install that then you can install libc6. But read the howto and you should be ok and we can take it from there. I hope this helps you and if there is anything wlse that me or the debian-user list can do, don't hesitate to ask. Hope this helps. Paul On Sat, 23 May 1998, Julián Cardona wrote: Hi! I'm installing Debian (hamm) in two machines, a 386SX with 4 MB RAM and 80 HD and a 486 with 22 MB RAM and 323 HD. I was very pleased to see the two new (?) preselections, a basic system that fits in about 40 MB of disk, and a standard system that occupies about 120 MB. Great, that was precisely what I needed! Sorrowfully, I had problems with both installations. In the basic system, libc5 conflicted with libc6 and I was left with a system without manpages, among other things. In the standard system I got errors in a couple of packages (modutils and bibtex, I think -I could check it-). The standard system also tried to replace my passwords and group files and asked me twice to select a dictionary (american/british) ... and keeps asking me that *every* time I run dselect. Of course the resulting systems are usable and work fine, but I'd like to get rid of those little annoyances ... How can I: a. Install manpages (which depends on things that depend on libc5) and libc6 on the basic system? I suppose it's not a problem, since the standard system probably does something like that. BTW, something in perl also depended on libc5, but dselect seemed to work fine (?). b. Tell dselect passwords, group and dictionary are alive and well and don't need to be reconfigured every time? This trouble I had also in a machine I debianized a month ago (after freeze, before deep freeze). Besides, I might do some testing on the installation procedures if that helps ... I mean, I can keep installing on these two machines from scratch and reporting errors if that's of any use. I think an absolutely clean and smooth installation might do a very good first impression on every new user, and the basic/standard preselections are a big step in that direction. Other than that, I have only the most positive things to say about Debian 2.0, the system and the community (develpers and users) behind it. Thanx a lot for your *excelent* work! JulianC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 10:38:06AM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: What does linux support? Or is there a standard protocol for ide? SCSI would be a much better choice. I have IDE disks but felt it was worth paying a bit more for a SCSI burner. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Checking Ports? (fwd)
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 01:54:40PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
I run a very simple joystick server that writes its position to a port, say,
50005, so that (a) multiple clients can connect to the stick (b) I can run
a fake server on machines without a stick and continue to test programs that
need to read a stick.
When I kill the server, I find I often can't restart it on that port, but
can on, say, 50006. I'm guessing that some resource stays around until it's
killed off, usually after less than a minute.
I intend making my server pick the next free port, and likewise the clients
will have to play chase the server. Meanwhile I don't worry.
You need to set the socket to be reusable, eg:
int fd, on = 1;
[...]
/* Set it to be re-usable */
if (setsockopt(fd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR,
(char *) on, sizeof(on)) 0) {
fprintf(stderr, Could not set socket options\n);
}
Hamish
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Re: cd writers linux
I know SCSI is faster, but if the drives only write at 2X or 4X, why does it matter? ... I think the buffer size and supported functions are probably the most important. From the FAQs, it looks like Linux supports most IDE and SCSI drives. I'm not sure about ECP/EPP parallel port drives. -Paul On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 10:38:06AM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: What does linux support? Or is there a standard protocol for ide? SCSI would be a much better choice. I have IDE disks but felt it was worth paying a bit more for a SCSI burner. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: umsdos run on fat32 ?
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 01:33:40PM -0400, R. Chris Ross wrote: I have recently gotten a laptop at work that I need to run Win95 and later, likely NT. It would be great to also load Linux in the same partition. Can Debian be installed using an umsdos file system in a fat32 partition? NT can't read FAT32 anyway, but I don't think it'd work. I may be wrong. pgpRTqR3yPtvQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: procmail woes
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 03:01:32PM -0400, Paul McDermott wrote: hello my debian user friends, I have just upgraded my hardware and was doing a new install of slink. When it came to configure procmail is where I ran into trouble. These are the versions of procmail and smail smail 3.2.0.101-4.3 Electronic mail transport system. procmail3.10.7-6 Versatile e-mail processor. here is my .forward file |IFS=' 'exec /usr/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #paul here is my .procmailrc file (this is simplified debian of course) PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail ALOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from :0 * ^To:.*debian Debian :0 * ^Resent-From:.*debian Debian Any help would be greatly appreciated. I think that I have things set up correctly but obviously i don't. # Sorts the mailing lists :0: * ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-user/ :0: * ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-mentors/ :0: * ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-devel/ :0: * ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-announce/ :0: * ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-security-announce/ pgppzhlYLtOMl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 02:31:59PM -0700, Phlip wrote: I got this version ooff your site and installed it but had problems making it the default manager. Also, is the file .steprc included in the package? I can't seem to locate it on my system and would really appreciate knowing where it is supposed to be so I can at least create a new one and put it where it belongs. 1.4.x doesn't use .steprc, look in /usr/share for the things that go in ~/GNUstep/Library/Afterstep I think. And good luck configuring that mess. I've given up. pgpWqFQjwGnQg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cd writers linux
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: They make permanant pits iinto the disk and can not be erased (well ok... they can be erased...just dip them in some acetone... but they can not be erased AND re-used) After looking around on the net, I think that is right. The re-writeable are differnt...they burn (make pits) just like the WORM but they are more complex...the drive has a special mode where it heats them much much more and erases teh pits, so that they can be burned again. hmmm... I think rewritable discs are magnetic and they can only be read on other CD-RW drives or DVD drives. BTW they seem very suceptible to IO bandwidth.. a few things: 1) never burn files that are not stored on a local drive 2) put the writer on its own IDE controller, it should not share a controller with another drive that is being used 3) SCSI is better than IDE :) If the drive has a 1MB or 2MB buffer and is only writing at 2X or 4X, why does it matter how fast the interface is? Most drives are 2X, which is something like 300KB/s.. My motherboard supports up to 20MB/s on both of its IDE channels. So even if the drive is on a shared channel, it'll still be able to continously write at 300KB/s, right? as for what drive to getim not sure whats supported right now...there is a HOWTO somewhere ahh.. there is a HOWTO. Good. It lists many different brands and is very helpful. Thanks -Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 08:33:43PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: I know SCSI is faster, but if the drives only write at 2X or 4X, why does it matter? ... I think the buffer size and supported functions are probably the most important. From the FAQs, it looks like Linux supports most IDE and SCSI drives. I'm not sure about ECP/EPP parallel port drives. It's not the speed, it's compatibility. If you think all the software you will ever want to use does IDE, then go for it. Otherwise use SCSI. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installation
How do you do? I recently got a copy of Debian Linux 2.0, unfortunately I have no documentation for it and as such installation is difficult. This will be my first Linux installation, my hardware is as follows pentium 133, 32mb of ram, and two clean 420mb hard drives, that I would like to install to. My problem is that I have no idea how to create the boot and root floppies. Also if it's no trouble I would like to get a basic idea of how to proceed with the installation from there. If some one could respond with some information on this problem I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance, Tim McCann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 10:51:32AM +1000, Tim wrote: How do you do? How do I do what? :) I recently got a copy of Debian Linux 2.0, unfortunately I have no documentation for it and as such installation is difficult. This will be my first Linux installation, my hardware is as follows pentium 133, 32mb of ram, and two clean 420mb hard drives, that I would like to install to. My problem is that I have no idea how to create the boot and root floppies. Also if it's no trouble I would like to get a basic idea of how to proceed with the installation from there. If some one could respond with some information on this problem I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance, Tim McCann Tim, How did you exactly get the files that you mentioned? Via FTP or HTTP? If you obtained the files via HTTP there is a page called Installation Via FTP that has all the information you need to install Debian 2.0. Also, if you look at the same place you got the boot and root floppies you should also see a few other files. The ones you need are: 1. resc1440.bin 2. drvs1440.bin 3. base1 Thru base5.bin 4. rawrite2.exe This should get you started. Use the rawrite2.exe to extract the *.bin files to 7 1.44m floppies. And then insert the rescUE Disk into your floppy drive and reboot. That should get you started and you can get the rest from the FTP site. Hope this helps get you going -- Mike Acklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Newbie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Tim wrote: How do you do? I recently got a copy of Debian Linux 2.0, unfortunately I have no documentation for it and as such installation is difficult. This will be my first Linux installation, my hardware is as follows pentium 133, 32mb of ram, and two clean 420mb hard drives, that I would like to install to. My problem is that I have no idea how to create the boot and root floppies. Also if it's no trouble I would like to get a basic idea of how to proceed with the installation from there. If some one could respond with some information on this problem I would be very grateful. Tim, I'm not sure I'd recommend 2.0 for a first-time Linux installation yet (it isn't quite ready for release). Version 1.3 is quite stable. I have done one fresh installation of 2.0 without problems although some others have had difficulties. However, if you really want to try 2.0, go to ftp.debian.org in the directory /pub/debian/dists/frozen/main/disks-i386/current and read install.txt. This tells how to create the various floppies needed plus a lot more. You will need rawrite2, which is in /pub/debian/tools. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp error
If fetchmail say I have a smtp transfer error, where should I look to figure out what that means and how to fix it? Is that a fetchmail or smail problem or something else. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPC linux
At 09:17 -0700 1998-06-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 3 motorola PPC boxes here gathering dust now that they are Windows NT orphans. I don't know what the model number is but they are in standard mini-tower cases with PCI/ISA mother boards with SCSI drives. What linux distribution would support them? At this point, the only choice is the RedHat-based LinuxPPC, http://www.linuxppc.org. Those are probably PReP boxes, so LinuxPPC should support them just fine. Eventually Debian/powerpc will support them too, but right now we are still working on the base system for Power Macs. -- Joel Espy Klecker Debian GNU/Linux Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://web.espy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HAMM ftp proxy install / Hamm Installing / blah
Well since I'm doing it as we speak, I might as well write out what works, since I got all this nice help from the list with my problem, and in the fassion of supor models makeing their speachs ' if I had a hundred grand, I would buy everyone a puppy so they could feal the love I'm fealing now! ' except I'd give you all hamm. well here is how I did it (and made it work :) first I booted on the 1.3.1 installation disk, went through for a bare install (bare minumum to get on the internet) in my case that was configuring the eth0 device. I gave it my debian CD and it installed the base system etc. Then i made mya ccounts, (after restarting) and when dselect came up I hit exit. I then obtained a copy of the auto up to libc6 off the Debian www sight (well I ftped it from a friend) ran it and upgraded my dkpg so I could then do a *working* ftp install of debian. at this point those of you useing PPP will have to use dselect and your CD to setup your PPP connection (but nothing more .. you will get all the other stuff from Ham.. ie no X no libs no bitchx..). Then when you are connected and have run the autoup.sh script (with a base system it should have no problems seeing as nothing is installed to conflict with it) then run dselect choose FTP ftp.debian.org (passive or not.. I don't go through a firewall so I use non-passive and no proxie) the base dir is /debian then when it asks you to tell it the stable non-free contrib dirs type in: dists/frozen/main dists/frozen/non-free dists/frozen/contrib walla enter. it should connect (if your inet works ..) adn see the dirs are there, then select update and wait while it grabs the package files. sometime along hte way it will ask you if you want to remove your old package lists. say yes so you can choose from a Hamm only installation. now go through and select, when you hit installation you can leave your computer going for however many days its nessicery to download all that kewl new Hamm crap. the rest of the installation goes regular This was done on a compleetly clean system. I downloaded the packages to /tmp deleted them afterwards and am now a happy hip ham user. mad pheer. -p (J. Steinbrecher) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
weird k/b problem
hmm... i seem to be having strange problems with my keyboard... i'm running a current (updated today) hamm... seems like backspace and delete both send a delete under X, so i can't backspace at all... seems fine in console mode, at least in bash, i can backspace, and delete deletes the character under it. but- when i run vncviewer (either svga or x) neither shift key works. it used to be that the left shift worked, but the right did nothing, and i put it down to the different scancodes the keys generate, but it seems not right that neither of them work now. makes typing in drive letters on a windows vnc server interesting. :^) anyone have any clue as to why this is happening? i remember installing a new linux termcap with one of the previous updates i did, or it might be the new 2.0.34 kernel i'm running. suggestions? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 08:43:44PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: BTW they seem very suceptible to IO bandwidth.. a few things: 1) never burn files that are not stored on a local drive 2) put the writer on its own IDE controller, it should not share a controller with another drive that is being used 3) SCSI is better than IDE :) If the drive has a 1MB or 2MB buffer and is only writing at 2X or 4X, why does it matter how fast the interface is? Most drives are 2X, which is something like 300KB/s.. My motherboard supports up to 20MB/s on both of its IDE channels. So even if the drive is on a shared channel, it'll still be able to continously write at 300KB/s, right? Sure, but continuous, for the whole 37 odd minutes to write a full CD? Yesterday I burnt a full CD for someone, with the files located on their PC, over Windows networking (I was running NT, they were running 95). I recorded it on the fly, without making an image first; the test phase (the first half, until we cancelled it anyway) kept the buffer 100% full. But on the actual CD, the last 100mb of files are all unreadable. Ethernet is 10mbit/s, ie 1mbyte/sec, which is 600kb/s for a 4X write, you say? A CDR benchmarking program says that the transfer rate off the Windows machine was under 600kb/sec on average. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailer question
O.K. I'm going to go out on a limb here. I need to get one of my email servers to reject mail if the /var/spool/mail/user file is past a certain size. In so many words, I need to dole out the mailbox full error when needed. Is this something done with deliver or procmail, or is it a sendmail ruleset issue? Any suggestions? Thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
Well, that is over a network, which has nothing to do with SCSI, IDE, or parallel ports... the network is the bottleneck instead of the interface. Benchmark your network in windows.. it'll probably be less than 10mbit -- around 600 or 700kb/s.. Besides... you were using windows, and windows (from my experiance) can't handle large amounts of network traffic. Over FTP I've only be able to get windows downloading at 450kb/s, while linux could get over 600kb/s from the same internet site (I have a 10mbit cable modem connection). -Paul On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 08:43:44PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: BTW they seem very suceptible to IO bandwidth.. a few things: 1) never burn files that are not stored on a local drive 2) put the writer on its own IDE controller, it should not share a controller with another drive that is being used 3) SCSI is better than IDE :) If the drive has a 1MB or 2MB buffer and is only writing at 2X or 4X, why does it matter how fast the interface is? Most drives are 2X, which is something like 300KB/s.. My motherboard supports up to 20MB/s on both of its IDE channels. So even if the drive is on a shared channel, it'll still be able to continously write at 300KB/s, right? Sure, but continuous, for the whole 37 odd minutes to write a full CD? Yesterday I burnt a full CD for someone, with the files located on their PC, over Windows networking (I was running NT, they were running 95). I recorded it on the fly, without making an image first; the test phase (the first half, until we cancelled it anyway) kept the buffer 100% full. But on the actual CD, the last 100mb of files are all unreadable. Ethernet is 10mbit/s, ie 1mbyte/sec, which is 600kb/s for a 4X write, you say? A CDR benchmarking program says that the transfer rate off the Windows machine was under 600kb/sec on average. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 10:43:28PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: Well, that is over a network, which has nothing to do with SCSI, IDE, or parallel ports... the network is the bottleneck instead of the interface. Yes, I am well aware of that -- I was just backing up one of Stephen's points. If you want to get IDE, just go get it -- don't keep asking about it when you don't seem to want to know the answer! Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
quick question about networking
i just need to know if there is some script (ala slackware's netconfig) that will let me reconfigure my network settings after debian has been installed- i've checked, but haven't found anything, nothing in the faq, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Tim wrote: snip I'm not sure I'd recommend 2.0 for a first-time Linux installation yet (it isn't quite ready for release). Version 1.3 is quite stable. I have done one fresh installation of 2.0 without problems although some others have had difficulties. I did it from a first-time (with the version of boot floppies that hanged partway through the first time :)). Given that quite a few people have had problems with the autoup script, I'd recommend going for hamm (2.0) I should probably point out that I am a newbie (but learning fast :)) HTH, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward-elect of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quick question about networking
I'm not sure if there's a script for it but all the important parameters are in /etc/init.d/network you can just use an editor to change them. Nate On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Ian Eure wrote: i just need to know if there is some script (ala slackware's netconfig) that will let me reconfigure my network settings after debian has been installed- i've checked, but haven't found anything, nothing in the faq, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Nathan C. Burnett Everyone is born right-handed, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] only the greatest overcome it. http://www.cse.msu.edu/~burnet26-Slogan, Left-Handers' Club of Ireland ( ( (((In Stereo Where Available))) ) ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D-Link DE220 Ethernet Card driver
Please provide me with D-Link DE220 Ethernet driver. It is not available with D-Link. They have drivers for Solaris,SCO, ATT ports only. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: D-Link DE220 Ethernet Card driver
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, V P REDDY wrote: Please provide me with D-Link DE220 Ethernet driver. It is not available with D-Link. They have drivers for Solaris,SCO, ATT ports only. Hm, this card is a PnP ne2000, get isapnptools to configure it and then use the ne module at the IO address you specified. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web mail
Hello, Would someone recommend me a good web mail (like hotmail) ? I do not need the attachment feature. I think that a good web mail could be built in Perl. Does it exist?! But, it can be written in any language. Thank you for any help, Jorge K. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 12:16:07PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 08:43:44PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: BTW they seem very suceptible to IO bandwidth.. a few things: 1) never burn files that are not stored on a local drive 2) put the writer on its own IDE controller, it should not share a controller with another drive that is being used 3) SCSI is better than IDE :) If the drive has a 1MB or 2MB buffer and is only writing at 2X or 4X, why does it matter how fast the interface is? Most drives are 2X, which is something like 300KB/s.. My motherboard supports up to 20MB/s on both of its IDE channels. So even if the drive is on a shared channel, it'll still be able to continously write at 300KB/s, right? [snip] Ethernet is 10mbit/s, ie 1mbyte/sec, which is 600kb/s for a 4X write, you say? A CDR benchmarking program says that the transfer rate off the Windows machine was under 600kb/sec on average. Thats exactly my point earlier...yes... In theory the bandwidth on ethernet is large enough to burn a CD, keeping the buffer full...in practice it is not. You can't forget, yes there is 10 Mb/s but... Think of how actual file acess works... you have to send a request out for more data (read request) then the other machine has to stop what it is doing (even when idle it is burining up cycles on some other tasks), respond to you, read what you requested, or get it from some cache, then send it back. This is all while the network is serviceing other requests (hey Windows Networking anyone? unless you use WINS, a network can be bogged down during those browser elections every 11 mins...and takes more than 11 mins to burn a CD). The point is that In theory yes you can do it...but in practice I have seen it tried and never seen it work. The same goes for SCSI and using separate IDE contollers etc...yes in theory it doesn't cause a problem..in practice it is better safe tahn sorry (it sure is disapointing to wait an hour or so for a CD only to find out the burn screwed up) -Steve -- ** Stephen Carpenter ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Maturity is often more absurd than youth and very frequently is most unjust to youth -- Thomas Edison pgpM6fs5zZSrp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: deb package for Netscape 4.05 installer on Debian 1.3.1 ?
glibc (libc6) and the libc5 version. The libc6 version, of course, won't work on bo. Do you know how I can get 128 bin Encryption of netscape 4.05 with libc6 I can only get it with libc5. -Oz -- NAME Oz Dror, Los Angeles, California EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux since 8/15/94 PHONE Fax (310) 474-3126 -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.2 mQBtAzA/tLQAAAEDAKUy/TEjQ/jiZ+9/WJb/+NHxqkvOxGZ3W/F2JCNm5v5ZTZz+ BVZC9GM/I+plQ8xz+7B+KhDSVax8gxNTAkJ+I7P/zAP2ZDMwVf4lq5ZFxMJC+7c7 ET+hNtmQUt8vCVR8hQAFEbQZT3ogRHJvciA8ZHJvckBuZXRjb20uY29tPg== =EU23 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about xterm and rxvt
Thanks Ed. Resent-Date: 8 Jun 1998 14:31:26 - Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:34:41 -0500 From: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Question about xterm and rxvt References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Message-ID: XriWiD.A.vR.-W_e1@murphy Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/7952 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Yobb wrote: How do I change the colours of these terminals. Don't know about rxvt, but for Xterm there are command line options for this as well as resources you can put in your Xresources file. Example resources: XTerm*VT100*background: Black XTerm*VT100*foreground: WhiteSmoke You can find the names for the colors in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb.txt. -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 12:45:04PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 10:43:28PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: Well, that is over a network, which has nothing to do with SCSI, IDE, or parallel ports... the network is the bottleneck instead of the interface. Yes, I am well aware of that -- I was just backing up one of Stephen's points. If you want to get IDE, just go get it -- don't keep asking about it when you don't seem to want to know the answer! And lets not forget... I said SCSI is better and I meant it... yes it costs more but...I love SCSI, even if you feel IDE works for you If you feel its good enough then go for ... Just do it And...don't forget... the most important reaosn of all for me saying SCSI is better: I am biased :) -Steve -- ** Stephen Carpenter ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Maturity is often more absurd than youth and very frequently is most unjust to youth -- Thomas Edison -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deb package for Netscape 4.05 installer on Debian 1.3.1 ?
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Oz Dror wrote: Do you know how I can get 128 bin Encryption of netscape 4.05 with libc6 I can only get it with libc5. Fortify (see www.fortify.net) will provide 128 bit encryption with either version. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stdc++ lib
Can't download libstdc++2.8 at http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/unstable/libs/libstdc++2.8.html it's a file that the KDE base is dependant on Thanks Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bo or hamm?
I have bo on CD. I'm about to install a new system. Destroying the system and rebuilding from scratch doesn't bother me as it's my home system. In the lists opinion, should I go ahead and re-install bo now, or wait for a hamm CD? Gerald V. Livingston II '69 Bug -- AirBall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smtp error
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Tom Malloy wrote: : If fetchmail say I have a smtp transfer error, where should I look to : figure out what that means and how to fix it? Is that a fetchmail or : smail problem or something else. Thanks You could give `fetchmail -v` a try, to determine which program is having problems. Maybe it isn't fetchmail itself. bye, -Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailer question
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Michael Roark wrote: : O.K. I'm going to go out on a limb here. I need to get one of my email : servers to reject mail if the /var/spool/mail/user file is past a : certain size. In so many words, I need to dole out the mailbox full : error when needed. Is this something done with deliver or procmail, or : is it a sendmail ruleset issue? You could give the Quota System a try. If you're using procmail as local delivery agent: procmail is quota-aware, so it will bounce mail when the user's mailbox size exceeds his quota. bye, -Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fresh install. Little troubles.
Julián Cardona wrote: Hi! I'm installing Debian (hamm) in two machines, a 386SX with 4 MB RAM and 80 HD and a 486 with 22 MB RAM and 323 HD. I was very pleased to see the two new (?) preselections, a basic system that fits in about 40 MB of disk, and a standard system that occupies about 120 MB. Great, that was precisely what I needed! Sorrowfully, I had problems with both installations. In the basic system, libc5 conflicted with libc6 and I was left with a system without manpages, among other things. In the standard system I got errors in a couple of packages (modutils and bibtex, I think -I could check it-). The standard system also tried to replace my passwords and group files and asked me twice to select a dictionary (american/british) ... and keeps asking me that *every* time I run dselect. If you have a true hamm system, you don't need libc5 to get manpages. The package 'man-db' has the man command and there is a version of this in the hamm directory for libc6. If its asking for libc5 then you are trying to install the older bo version. The are several packages (like manpages) that provide man pages, but are not dependent on the system's lib. Whenever you install a package over the same or older version of itself, it will give you the option of keeping your old config files or overwriting them with the version in the package you are trying to install. This is why it is asking you whether to overwrite your passwd and group files. If deselect keeps asking the same response every time, then its probably failing during the install of those packages. The package remains uninstalled, or 'broken' in deselect's term, and when you rerun deselect it automatically attempts to install packages that remain 'broken' from the last time. When you run Install use Control-S and Control-Q to pause the screen display so you can read the messages that dselect is printing. The messages may explain why the install of those packages is failing. Of course the resulting systems are usable and work fine, but I'd like to get rid of those little annoyances ... How can I: a. Install manpages (which depends on things that depend on libc5) and libc6 on the basic system? I suppose it's not a problem, since the standard system probably does something like that. BTW, something in perl also depended on libc5, but dselect seemed to work fine (?). You should be trying to install 'man-db_2.3.10-65.deb'. This is the libc6 version (available from ftp.debian.org). b. Tell dselect passwords, group and dictionary are alive and well and don't need to be reconfigured every time? This trouble I had also in a machine I debianized a month ago (after freeze, before deep freeze). As mentioned above, its probably asking you every time because it can't sucessfully install/configure the packages. Are there any error messages displayed when dselect installs them? What does 'dpkg --status name_of_package_.deb' say? For example, check the stats of the american dictionary with 'dpkg --status iamerican'. Status should be 'install ok installed'. Besides, I might do some testing on the installation procedures if that helps ... I mean, I can keep installing on these two machines from scratch and reporting errors if that's of any use. I think an absolutely clean and smooth installation might do a very good first impression on every new user, and the basic/standard preselections are a big step in that direction. Other than that, I have only the most positive things to say about Debian 2.0, the system and the community (develpers and users) behind it. Thanx a lot for your *excelent* work! JulianC Make sure you don't mix bo and hamm disks/packages together. If you are installing with hamm boot/root/bin disks then use only packages from the hamm directory tree (Example: ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main). -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: weird k/b problem
Ian Eure wrote: hmm... i seem to be having strange problems with my keyboard... i'm running a current (updated today) hamm... seems like backspace and delete both send a delete under X, so i can't backspace at all... seems fine in console mode, at least in bash, i can backspace, and delete deletes the character under it. but- when i run vncviewer (either svga or x) neither shift key works. it used to be that the left shift worked, but the right did nothing, and i put it down to the different scancodes the keys generate, but it seems not right that neither of them work now. makes typing in drive letters on a windows vnc server interesting. :^) anyone have any clue as to why this is happening? i remember installing a new linux termcap with one of the previous updates i did, or it might be the new 2.0.34 kernel i'm running. suggestions? FWIW: Are you sure you mean termcap and not terminfo? If it works in the console but not x, check your xterm terminfo file and see if its in sync with the linux terminfo file for the console. The relevant entries are 'kbs' and 'kdch1'. -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bo or hamm?
Gerald V. Livingston lI wrote: I have bo on CD. I'm about to install a new system. Destroying the system and rebuilding from scratch doesn't bother me as it's my home system. In the lists opinion, should I go ahead and re-install bo now, or wait for a hamm CD? Gerald V. Livingston II Nobody knows how long you might have to wait for hamm to be released. It's been delayed twice that I know of (they keep pushing back the release date). If internet access is 'cheap' for you, i.e. you don't pay by the hour and you aren't under any significant hour restrictions (xxx hours per week, e.t.c) then try an ftp install if you have the time. Otherwise, load bo and wait for hamm to go official, then you can upgrade without having to reinstall. The only downside to this is that nothing about bo is being upgraded (except when bugs are found). To find the most recent versions of packages, you have to go to hamm+slink. I started out like you. I was going to wait for hamm, but when hamm got delayed twice (two months) I decided to just upgrade via ftp (I have unrestricted access and I pay by the month, not the hour). It took the better part of a Saturday, but its a one shot deal; once done you don't have to do it again. For me it was worth it, but it boils down to how much time you have to kill. -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deb package for Netscape 4.05 installer on Debian 1.3.1 ?
Oz Dror wrote: glibc (libc6) and the libc5 version. The libc6 version, of course, won't work on bo. Do you know how I can get 128 bin Encryption of netscape 4.05 with libc6 I can only get it with libc5. -Oz First, get the libc6 version of Netscape from 'ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.05/development/english/unix/linux20_glibc2/' (then select which version you want, stand-alone/professional etc). Second, get 'Fortify-1.2.3-unix.tar.gz' from 'http://www.fortify.net' and run it against the binary of Netscape 4.05. I haven't actually used 128-bit encryption (that I know of) so I can't guarantee that Fortify will do what you want, but I ran Fortify and it claimed to have updated Netscape to 128 bit encryption. See the README.html in the fortify package. -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weird problem: normal user can't run bash in login
I've attempted to run the 2.0.34 and 2.1.105 kernels (currently running 2.0.33, Debian 2.1 hamm+slink), but have been stumped by a problem. ROOT can login normally with no problem, but a normal user (I have an 'ed' account for doing things that don't require root access) gets an error message during login. Right after the system checks for mail (it prints no mail) it then says Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied. I'm then returned to the login screen. The file permissions for /bin and /bin/bash are normal (rwxr-xr-x) and keep in mind that everything works fine with the 2.0.33 kernel. It also fails with other shells in other directories, e.g. /usr/bin/es. Giving the user root uid is the only way to allow the user to login. It fails with newly created users. I've looked in linux/Documentation and /etc for some explanation but haven't found one. I'm stumped. What am I missing? -- Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird problem: normal user can't run bash in login
I am running 2.0.34 w/ no problems. Could it be a permission on the tty and not the executable?? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird problem: normal user can't run bash in login
Shaleh wrote:
I am running 2.0.34 w/ no problems. Could it be a permission on the tty
and not the executable??
No. Remember, the login process has already started, the user ('ed')
has
already gotten a tty, the system has printed to it (for example to tell him
he has no mail), only when it tries to exec the default shell does the error
occur. I can't see how tty access could cause this.
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Re: cd writers linux
Paul Miller wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: They make permanant pits iinto the disk and can not be erased (well ok... they can be erased...just dip them in some acetone... but they can not be erased AND re-used) After looking around on the net, I think that is right. Yes. Although you can write multiple sessions to a CDR. If you have space at the end of a CDR, you can tack on more files later, but you can't overwrite anything you've written. hmmm... I think rewritable discs are magnetic and they can only be read on other CD-RW drives or DVD drives. Nope. There's no such thing as a magnetic CDROM/DVD. They use a different power laser, and require the same on anything that tries to read the CD-RW. All newer CDROM/DVD will read CD-RW's (they will say they support multi-read). In fact, I have a sony stereo that will play audio CD-RW's (although most audio equipment won't play them). If the drive has a 1MB or 2MB buffer and is only writing at 2X or 4X, why does it matter how fast the interface is? Most drives are 2X, which is something like 300KB/s.. My motherboard supports up to 20MB/s on both of its IDE channels. So even if the drive is on a shared channel, it'll still be able to continously write at 300KB/s, right? Speed is not an issue, reliability is. SCSI is MUCH more reliable that IDE. I tried to copy a scratched CD on an IDE CDROM once. It got to a damaged file, puked died on the spot. I tried copying it from a SCSI CDROM, and it took about 30 seconds while it retried, but it copied the file and continued on. IDE does not deal well with errors during reading or writing. IDE devices tend to just give up, while SCSI does the best it can to continue. SCSI also uses less CPU time than even UDMA. This isn't a big deal if you are exclusively using your machine as a burner, but I've done compiles, used netscape, etc. while burning CDs under linux. I would not even think of doing that with an IDE burner. I'm not saying you shouldn't get an IDE burner. It will probably work OK and will cost much less, but SCSI is a better option if you can afford it. Kerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A debian-user question.
This is not a debian specific question - but its asked by a debian user and will be used on a debian system... I'm in the process of writing a frontend to a turbulence modelling system. For the GUI I'm thinking of either perl-tk or using the visual tcl package - any opinions? The GUI will contain radio-buttons, entry-fields, file-browser etc. to specify the different parameters for the model. My real question concerns a package that will do real time plotting of the results of the turbulence modelling - this is simple X-Y graphs but they evolve over time so I need to - at run time - update the graphs based on the results of the turbulence calculations. Since I'm not at all a X-programmer I would like something a bit more high-level. If this is going to work - the resulting code would be an example of very specialized open-source code. Karsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multiple IP numbers, one for each Subnet
I'm using a i386 portable with 2.0.34 installed. I have a requirement to plug this machine into various subnets, depending on where I'm working within my organisation. Is there a way to configure the system so that I can use (a) 4 or 5 different gateways (only one of which will be reachable at one time) and (b) 4 or 5 IP numbers, only one of which will be valid at any one time? An example: IP Gateway 111.222.1.1111.222.1.254 111.222.2.5111.222.2.254 111.222.10.2 111.222.10.254 111.222.200.210111.222.200.254 all configured, all accessable, not reconfiguring rebooting IP Aliasing seems to only work within the same subnet, and has to be re-initialised at each bootup. many thanks... ** Ian Stuart Land Rover : A British car that was meant to survive the charge of an adult bull rhino and be field-stripped in the jungle with essentially a screw-driver and a crescent wrench. WWW: http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shutdown messages not visible after xdm stopped
Hi, I recently set up a hamm-system running xdm. When shutting down, there are no messages from the moment xdm disappears and the console comes back until to the final system halted. I disabled xdm and used startx. After beeing back from X to the console I noticed that all messages during shutdown are issued. Anyone else ? Kind regards Gerd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Echoing another terminal
Matthew Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible to echo the display of another terminal to the current terminal you are on? You can use tee and tail -f for that purpose (if both terminals are of the same nature: xterm - xterm, console - console, etc). HTH, Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wav to mp3
Timothy C. Phan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'd like to know if there is a tool that would convert wav file to mp3 file! Thanks! package l3enc (non-free shareware trial version). HTH, Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ecogburn@greene.xtn.net: Re: Fresh install. Little troubles.]
- Forwarded message from Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: at Infodrom Oldenburg (/\##/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.12 Joey) by finlandia.Infodrom.North.DE from murphy.debian.org with smtp id m0yjGZS-001Mw7C; Tue, 9 Jun 98 07:03 MET DST Received: from ([205.229.104.6]) by teergrube (0 sec delayed, relaying denied) Received: (qmail 24392 invoked by uid 847); 9 Jun 1998 05:02:40 - Received: (qmail 24379 invoked by uid 38); 9 Jun 1998 05:02:40 - Received: (qmail 24372 invoked by uid 38); 9 Jun 1998 05:02:39 - Date: 9 Jun 1998 05:02:39 - X-From_:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 9 00:02:39 1998 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24354 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1998 05:02:39 - Received: from martha.xtn.net (206.30.163.12) by murphy.novare.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 1998 05:02:39 - Received: from greene.xtn.net (p70.greene.xtn.net [206.30.189.70]) by martha.xtn.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA31867 for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 01:02:06 -0400 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 01:05:24 -0500 From: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.1.105 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Fresh install. Little troubles. References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Envelope-To: debian-user Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julián Cardona wrote: Hi! I'm installing Debian (hamm) in two machines, a 386SX with 4 MB RAM and 80 HD and a 486 with 22 MB RAM and 323 HD. I was very pleased to see the two new (?) preselections, a basic system that fits in about 40 MB of disk, and a standard system that occupies about 120 MB. Great, that was precisely what I needed! Sorrowfully, I had problems with both installations. In the basic system, libc5 conflicted with libc6 and I was left with a system without manpages, among other things. In the standard system I got errors in a couple of packages (modutils and bibtex, I think -I could check it-). The standard system also tried to replace my passwords and group files and asked me twice to select a dictionary (american/british) ... and keeps asking me that *every* time I run dselect. If you have a true hamm system, you don't need libc5 to get manpages. The package 'man-db' has the man command and there is a version of this in the hamm directory for libc6. If its asking for libc5 then you are trying to install the older bo version. The are several packages (like manpages) that provide man pages, but are not dependent on the system's lib. Whenever you install a package over the same or older version of itself, it will give you the option of keeping your old config files or overwriting them with the version in the package you are trying to install. This is why it is asking you whether to overwrite your passwd and group files. If deselect keeps asking the same response every time, then its probably failing during the install of those packages. The package remains uninstalled, or 'broken' in deselect's term, and when you rerun deselect it automatically attempts to install packages that remain 'broken' from the last time. When you run Install use Control-S and Control-Q to pause the screen display so you can read the messages that dselect is printing. The messages may explain why the install of those packages is failing. Of course the resulting systems are usable and work fine, but I'd like to get rid of those little annoyances ... How can I: a. Install manpages (which depends on things that depend on libc5) and libc6 on the basic system? I suppose it's not a problem, since the standard system probably does something like that. BTW, something in perl also depended on libc5, but dselect seemed to work fine (?). You should be trying to install 'man-db_2.3.10-65.deb'. This is the libc6 version (available from ftp.debian.org). b. Tell dselect passwords, group and dictionary are alive and well and don't need to be reconfigured every time? This trouble I had also in a machine I debianized a month ago (after freeze, before deep freeze). As mentioned above, its probably asking you every time because it can't sucessfully install/configure the packages. Are there any error messages displayed when dselect installs them? What does 'dpkg --status name_of_package_.deb' say? For example, check the stats of the american dictionary with 'dpkg --status iamerican'. Status should be 'install ok installed'. Besides, I might do some testing on the installation procedures if that
[ecogburn@greene.xtn.net: Re: deb package for Netscape 4.05 installer on Debian 1.3.1 ?]
- Forwarded message from Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: at Infodrom Oldenburg (/\##/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.12 Joey) by finlandia.Infodrom.North.DE from murphy.debian.org with smtp id m0yjGsI-001MxEC; Tue, 9 Jun 98 07:23 MET DST Received: from ([205.229.104.6]) by teergrube (0 sec delayed, relaying denied) Received: (qmail 27025 invoked by uid 847); 9 Jun 1998 05:22:06 - Received: (qmail 27012 invoked by uid 38); 9 Jun 1998 05:22:06 - Received: (qmail 27005 invoked by uid 38); 9 Jun 1998 05:22:06 - Date: 9 Jun 1998 05:22:06 - X-From_:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 9 00:22:06 1998 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 26987 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1998 05:22:05 - Received: from martha.xtn.net (206.30.163.12) by murphy.novare.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 1998 05:22:05 - Received: from greene.xtn.net (p70.greene.xtn.net [206.30.189.70]) by martha.xtn.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA32214 for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 01:22:02 -0400 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 01:25:21 -0500 From: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.1.105 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: deb package for Netscape 4.05 installer on Debian 1.3.1 ? References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Envelope-To: debian-user Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oz Dror wrote: glibc (libc6) and the libc5 version. The libc6 version, of course, won't work on bo. Do you know how I can get 128 bin Encryption of netscape 4.05 with libc6 I can only get it with libc5. -Oz First, get the libc6 version of Netscape from 'ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.05/development/english/unix/linux20_glibc2/' (then select which version you want, stand-alone/professional etc). Second, get 'Fortify-1.2.3-unix.tar.gz' from 'http://www.fortify.net' and run it against the binary of Netscape 4.05. I haven't actually used 128-bit encryption (that I know of) so I can't guarantee that Fortify will do what you want, but I ran Fortify and it claimed to have updated Netscape to 128 bit encryption. See the README.html in the fortify package. -- Ed - End forwarded message - -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / No question is too silly to ask, / / but, of course, some are too silly to answer. -- perl book / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ecogburn@greene.xtn.net: Re: bo or hamm?]
- Forwarded message from Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: at Infodrom Oldenburg (/\##/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.12 Joey) by finlandia.Infodrom.North.DE from murphy.debian.org with smtp id m0yjHR4-001MvIC; Tue, 9 Jun 98 07:59 MET DST Received: from ([205.229.104.6]) by teergrube (0 sec delayed, relaying denied) Received: (qmail 31673 invoked by uid 847); 9 Jun 1998 05:57:40 - Received: (qmail 31643 invoked by uid 38); 9 Jun 1998 05:57:39 - Received: (qmail 31624 invoked by uid 38); 9 Jun 1998 05:57:38 - Date: 9 Jun 1998 05:57:38 - X-From_:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 9 00:57:38 1998 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 31581 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1998 05:57:36 - Received: from mary.xtn.net (206.30.163.13) by murphy.novare.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 1998 05:57:36 - Received: from greene.xtn.net (p70.greene.xtn.net [206.30.189.70]) by mary.xtn.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27611 for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 01:56:05 -0400 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 02:00:50 -0500 From: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.1.105 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: bo or hamm? References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Envelope-To: debian-user Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerald V. Livingston lI wrote: I have bo on CD. I'm about to install a new system. Destroying the system and rebuilding from scratch doesn't bother me as it's my home system. In the lists opinion, should I go ahead and re-install bo now, or wait for a hamm CD? Gerald V. Livingston II Nobody knows how long you might have to wait for hamm to be released. It's been delayed twice that I know of (they keep pushing back the release date). If internet access is 'cheap' for you, i.e. you don't pay by the hour and you aren't under any significant hour restrictions (xxx hours per week, e.t.c) then try an ftp install if you have the time. Otherwise, load bo and wait for hamm to go official, then you can upgrade without having to reinstall. The only downside to this is that nothing about bo is being upgraded (except when bugs are found). To find the most recent versions of packages, you have to go to hamm+slink. I started out like you. I was going to wait for hamm, but when hamm got delayed twice (two months) I decided to just upgrade via ftp (I have unrestricted access and I pay by the month, not the hour). It took the better part of a Saturday, but its a one shot deal; once done you don't have to do it again. For me it was worth it, but it boils down to how much time you have to kill. -- Ed - End forwarded message - -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / No question is too silly to ask, / / but, of course, some are too silly to answer. -- perl book / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ecogburn@greene.xtn.net: Weird problem: normal user can't run bash in login]
- Forwarded message from Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: at Infodrom Oldenburg (/\##/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.12 Joey) by finlandia.Infodrom.North.DE from murphy.debian.org with smtp id m0yjHnc-001Mw7C; Tue, 9 Jun 98 08:22 MET DST Received: from ([205.229.104.6]) by teergrube (0 sec delayed, relaying denied) Received: (qmail 3482 invoked by uid 847); 9 Jun 1998 06:21:19 - Received: (qmail 3469 invoked by uid 38); 9 Jun 1998 06:21:18 - Received: (qmail 3462 invoked by uid 38); 9 Jun 1998 06:21:18 - Date: 9 Jun 1998 06:21:18 - X-From_:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 9 01:21:18 1998 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 3297 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1998 06:21:14 - Received: from martha.xtn.net (206.30.163.12) by murphy.novare.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 1998 06:21:14 - Received: from greene.xtn.net (p70.greene.xtn.net [206.30.189.70]) by martha.xtn.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00324 for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 02:21:12 -0400 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 02:24:31 -0500 From: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.1.105 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Weird problem: normal user can't run bash in login Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic: Mail to e.g bounced 0 times X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Envelope-To: debian-user Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've attempted to run the 2.0.34 and 2.1.105 kernels (currently running 2.0.33, Debian 2.1 hamm+slink), but have been stumped by a problem. ROOT can login normally with no problem, but a normal user (I have an 'ed' account for doing things that don't require root access) gets an error message during login. Right after the system checks for mail (it prints no mail) it then says Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied. I'm then returned to the login screen. The file permissions for /bin and /bin/bash are normal (rwxr-xr-x) and keep in mind that everything works fine with the 2.0.33 kernel. It also fails with other shells in other directories, e.g. /usr/bin/es. Giving the user root uid is the only way to allow the user to login. It fails with newly created users. I've looked in linux/Documentation and /etc for some explanation but haven't found one. I'm stumped. What am I missing? -- Ed - End forwarded message - -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / No question is too silly to ask, / / but, of course, some are too silly to answer. -- perl book / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A debian-user question.
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Karsten Bolding wrote: My real question concerns a package that will do real time plotting of the results of the turbulence modelling - this is simple X-Y graphs but they evolve over time so I need to - at run time - update the graphs based on the results of the turbulence calculations. Since I'm not at all a X-programmer I would like something a bit more high-level. Take a look at gnuplot, it can do wonderful things with graphs. Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.0.34
I just upgraded a Debian 1.3 (bo) machine to 2.0.34, and when I do ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 203.14.18.128 broadcast 203.14.18.127 (in /etc/init.d/network), I get SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument then ifconfig reports the mask is set to 255.255.255.0, which is wrong. So I get wrong routes etc. What is the fix -- is a new ifconfig required, or something else? I can get it to accept 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.254 255.255.255.252 255.255.255.248 255.255.255.240 255.255.255.224 255.255.255.192 but not .128. It works on 2.0.32 and 2.0.32 though. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird problem: normal user can't run bash in login
In debian-user Ed wrote:
No. Remember, the login process has already started, the user ('ed')
has
already gotten a tty, the system has printed to it (for example to tell him
he has no mail), only when it tries to exec the default shell does the error
occur. I can't see how tty access could cause this.
As always, take the error message. In 99% of case the error
message accurately reflects the problem.
The error message is cannot execute /bin/bash.
You said you checked the permissions on /bin and on /bin/bash.
Did you also check the permissions on / ? That often happens
on newly-installed systems; it's caused by inconsiderate
decompression of inconsiderate tarfiles in /tmp. On all dynamic
libraries linked to bash and their parent directories ? While
you're at it (should not be this), also check /tmp and ~ed.
If it was somewhere else than in /bin. I'd also say to check
noexec mount option to the filesystem, but I think you'd have
had problems before that :-)
If this fails, try su-ing to ed, maybe that will bring up
additional data.
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Re: 2.0.34
Hamish Moffatt wrote: I just upgraded a Debian 1.3 (bo) machine to 2.0.34, and when I do ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 203.14.18.128 broadcast 203.14.18.127 (in /etc/init.d/network), I get SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument then ifconfig reports the mask is set to 255.255.255.0, which is wrong. So I get wrong routes etc. What is the fix -- is a new ifconfig required, or something else? I can get it to accept 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.254 255.255.255.252 255.255.255.248 255.255.255.240 255.255.255.224 255.255.255.192 but not .128. It works on 2.0.32 and 2.0.32 though. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] netmask 203.14.18.128 ??? are you sure. ? 255.255.255.128 should be better -- ww ( o 0 ) -oOO---(_)OOo- Julien ORTEGA .ooo0 0ooo. Etudiant Genie des Telecoms et Reseaux ( ) ( ) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---\ (---) /-- \_) (_/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Echoing another terminal
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 01:52:47PM -0500, Matthew Myers wrote: Is it possible to echo the display of another terminal to the current terminal you are on? try ttysnoops -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Paul McDermott wrote: hello my debian user friends, I have just upgraded my hardware and was doing a new install of slink. When it came to configure procmail is where I ran into trouble. These are the versions of procmail and smail smail 3.2.0.101-4.3 Electronic mail transport system. procmail3.10.7-6 Versatile e-mail processor. here is my .forward file |IFS=' 'exec /usr/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #paul here is my .procmailrc file (this is simplified debian of course) [...] Your .procmailrc file looks ok to me, as long as you have a $HOME/Mail directory. It may be a bug in smail. To be sure, do the following: mv .procmailrc .procmailrc.not.yet so that all mail go to /var/spool/mail. This way you will know whether procmail does the deliver right or not. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNX0LHCqK7IlOjMLFAQE97gQAmqYdzvpydsNsDVFZ+1VMO3nYrDkEBVsy jgWvDT5+Z6ke4WarrJtF9jG/Yhwh35HOa4sV5jAswAvSM6v8uR3ynGYomnXXsWpu ulr75VtUvlS6Z/fFJtebQgxNAWAwHFkz4TOIsyahRb5YkqHYgxCAqBJQEg5TS7S1 5SqNr3lmGJA= =GGy4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.0.34
I just upgraded a Debian 1.3 (bo) machine to 2.0.34, and when I do ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 203.14.18.128 broadcast 203.14.18.127 That isnt a valid netmask I think you mean 255.255.255.128 ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.0.34
I just upgraded a Debian 1.3 (bo) machine to 2.0.34, and when I do ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 203.14.18.128 broadcast 203.14.18.127 ^ ^ (in /etc/init.d/network), I get SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument then ifconfig reports the mask is set to 255.255.255.0, which is wrong. So I get wrong routes etc. What is the fix -- is a new ifconfig required, or something else? No, just give the *right* netmask: 255.255.255.128 What you give is the network address, not the netmask. I seriously doubt that what you are doing has worked on older kernels ... Greetings, Rob van Nieuwkerk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pop3 mail problem
I just upgraded my system with the latest pop3 server qpopper from the debian site. I am now getting errors when ever anyone tries to log on and get there mail. Mail client returns this: ERR maillock: '/var/spool/pop/username.pop' /var/log/messages returns this error: Jun 9 12:53:25 www in.qpopper[26900]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -ERR maillock: '/var/spool/pop/randy.pop' /var/log/daemon.log returns: Jun 9 12:53:25 www in.qpopper[26900]: connect from ws2.deltastar.nb.ca I used dftp to update my existing system and it also added shadow passwds to the system. I checked the qpopper docs dir and there is mention of allow.pop and deny.pop which neither file has been setup in /etc but it also stated if they weren't there it would run without them. Any ideas on what could be wrong? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auctex not happening
Noel Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .emacs file. I believe this qualifies as a Debian bug (for the auctex package?). AFAIK it is not. AUCTeX is separate package for Emacs, and there is native(?) tex-mode in Emacs. In other words, if someone wants to use AuCTeX, she/he should put require tex-site in .emacs. BTW: AuCTeX provides LaTeX-mode, not latex-mode. Perhaps it is enough to put in latex files: % Mode: LaTeX or something similar. I can't remember now, as I grab new latex files from my templates, so I don't write such things very often. Bilbo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
Paul Miller wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: They make permanant pits iinto the disk and can not be erased (well ok... they can be erased...just dip them in some acetone... but they can not be erased AND re-used) After looking around on the net, I think that is right. Yes. Although you can write multiple sessions to a CDR. If you have space at the end of a CDR, you can tack on more files later, but you can't overwrite anything you've written. hmmm... I think rewritable discs are magnetic and they can only be read on other CD-RW drives or DVD drives. Nope. There's no such thing as a magnetic CDROM/DVD. They use a different power laser, and require the same on anything that tries to read the CD-RW. All newer CDROM/DVD will read CD-RW's (they will say they support multi-read). In fact, I have a sony stereo that will play audio CD-RW's (although most audio equipment won't play them). If the drive has a 1MB or 2MB buffer and is only writing at 2X or 4X, why does it matter how fast the interface is? Most drives are 2X, which is something like 300KB/s.. My motherboard supports up to 20MB/s on both of its IDE channels. So even if the drive is on a shared channel, it'll still be able to continously write at 300KB/s, right? Speed is not an issue, reliability is. SCSI is MUCH more reliable that IDE. I tried to copy a scratched CD on an IDE CDROM once. It got to a damaged file, puked died on the spot. I tried copying it from a SCSI CDROM, and it took about 30 seconds while it retried, but it copied the file and continued on. IDE does not deal well with errors during reading or writing. IDE devices tend to just give up, while SCSI does the best it can to continue. SCSI also uses less CPU time than even UDMA. This isn't a big deal if you are exclusively using your machine as a burner, but I've done compiles, used netscape, etc. while burning CDs under linux. I would not even think of doing that with an IDE burner. I'm not saying you shouldn't get an IDE burner. It will probably work OK and will cost much less, but SCSI is a better option if you can afford it. Kerry --- -- Let me add my two cents worth: SCSI is a multi-tasking interface, each device on the bus can be active at the same time (at least each device can be issued commands while others are running). IDE is single tasking. That's why the CD burner MUST be on its own ide controler. With two ide controlers you can transfer from a hard disk (ide0) to the CD burner (ide1). Used this way the ide cd burners (at least up to 2x speed) should work well (but see comment below). I don't know if the CDR drive makers are putting the same quality firmware into the ide drives as they are into the SCSI drives. That could account for a difference, not the interface used. Also there is SCSI and then there is SCSI. What kind of host adapator you use makes a difference. A programed IO SCSI interface card with a small buffer might be WORSE than an IDE interface. I think that unless you have a 2940 or equalivant bus master card you might not be any better off with SCSI than IDE. I have not gotten a CDR drive yet (when the price drops below $200 I'll byte). I have a 2920 SCSI card in my computer, but its only driving a DCC tape drive so speed here is not an issue. If I want to go SCSI for CDR I fear I'll have to replace this with the 2940. BTW people have told me that the biggest problem with CDR drives is heat. They can't burn more than one CD without letting the drive cool down inbetween and then only at 1X speed. The external drives work at 2X or 4X but the internal ones I'm told get too hot at 2x and above to be reliable. The fans inside the drive are just too small. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Echoing another terminal
On: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:52:47 -0500 (CDT) Matthew Myers writes: Is it possible to echo the display of another terminal to the current terminal you are on? You can use the vcs* devices for that: 7 charVirtual console capture devices 0 = /dev/vcs Current vc text contents 1 = /dev/vcs1 tty1 text contents ... 63 = /dev/vcs63tty63 text contents 128 = /dev/vcsa Current vc text/attribute contents 129 = /dev/vcsa1tty1 text/attribute contents ... 191 = /dev/vcsa63 tty63 text/attribute contents NOTE: These devices permit both read and write access. /dev/vcs# is the device for accessing /dev/tty#. Unfortunately, I don't know how to access pseudo ttys such as a xterm. Does anybody? Torsten -- Whenever a system becomes completely defined, some damn fool discovers something which either abolishes the system or expands it beyond recognition. Fortune Cookie PGP Public key available -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quake Segfaults
On: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 09:57:10 -0500 Ed Cogburn writes: Is there a man page/info/FAQ that explains this? Is this why its referred to as 'sticky' or am I thinking of something else. See the info page on Fileutils/File permissions/Mode structure. The sticky bit is the t-bit for files and is propably not even used in Linux or other todays unix. Its purpose on old machines was to put often used programs (such as ls or vi) into the swap space for faster loading (in the times were machines had no load on demand nor file system cache). Torsten -- Whenever a system becomes completely defined, some damn fool discovers something which either abolishes the system or expands it beyond recognition. Fortune Cookie PGP Public key available -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux OS
Calvin T. Bowen, Jr. wrote: Hi, Hello! I'm new to Linux. I would like to get have information about your software sent to me. Please include a catalog if available. This is not a company, it's a user support list for the user community of the Debian GNU/Linux distribution. Then, we do not have catalogues. Take a look at http://www.debian.org./, this is the home page for our distribuition. Take a look at http://www.linux.org./ for a user friendly overview of GNU/Linux and its distributions. If your need is more specific, let us know. -- Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra http://www.lge.com.br./ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terravista.pt./Enseada/1989/ BRASIL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail woes
hello Santiago, I did as you suggested mv .procmailrc to .procmailrc.not.yet and i still get mail delivered to my main mail box. Just a side not when i had the .procmailrc file i did have the Mail directory and still i got mail delivered to my main mail box or inbox. Do you know of any solution that I can use to make procmail, smail and pine work? Thanks again for your suggestion. Paul On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Paul McDermott wrote: hello my debian user friends, I have just upgraded my hardware and was doing a new install of slink. When it came to configure procmail is where I ran into trouble. These are the versions of procmail and smail smail 3.2.0.101-4.3 Electronic mail transport system. procmail3.10.7-6 Versatile e-mail processor. here is my .forward file |IFS=' 'exec /usr/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #paul here is my .procmailrc file (this is simplified debian of course) [...] Your .procmailrc file looks ok to me, as long as you have a $HOME/Mail directory. It may be a bug in smail. To be sure, do the following: mv .procmailrc .procmailrc.not.yet so that all mail go to /var/spool/mail. This way you will know whether procmail does the deliver right or not. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNX0LHCqK7IlOjMLFAQE97gQAmqYdzvpydsNsDVFZ+1VMO3nYrDkEBVsy jgWvDT5+Z6ke4WarrJtF9jG/Yhwh35HOa4sV5jAswAvSM6v8uR3ynGYomnXXsWpu ulr75VtUvlS6Z/fFJtebQgxNAWAwHFkz4TOIsyahRb5YkqHYgxCAqBJQEg5TS7S1 5SqNr3lmGJA= =GGy4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I would try mail -v paul to see what smail exactly does. When there is no .procmailrc file, procmail should do the delivery as usual (i.e. everything to /var/spool/mail). You can test your .procmailrc rules separately by doing something like cat mbox | formail -s procmail see the log file for details. [ BTW: Please fix your e-mail address, the current one bounces... ]. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNX0vyyqK7IlOjMLFAQEPDwP/WL7ThamhtNSeRymPCi6fk7karneabwlK HiztVb0Ae+DtYpRz0rwh2WriYfQ91YE747Eo5EmJkSsf3WNNt1r0sCM0LJJICrnm Aq4+s8vqFTNZ8tah8W4ChEPL35cr74Nw36PNNk+arCxsChexoRwgLNzz+ltquyvj Racll9o66yA= =fE+V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.0.34
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 12:34:21PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: I just upgraded a Debian 1.3 (bo) machine to 2.0.34, and when I do ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 203.14.18.128 broadcast 203.14.18.127 That isnt a valid netmask I think you mean 255.255.255.128 ;) You're right, of course, and that is what my startup scripts say (I just typed it into the email wrong), but unfortunately that doesn't seem to work either: bash-2.00# ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 255.255.255.128 broadcast 203.14.18.127 SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument It doesn't work on 2.0.32 either, I just discovered. Thanks to everyone who has replied. Any other ideas? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my machine is refusing talk
Try to update your talk command ! Download the latest package from debian which has the talk command and I think it will work ! If you don't know what's the package try something like: $ dpkg --search talk Best regards, Nuno Carvalho --- Nuno Emanuel Carvalho University of Coimbra Dep. of Informatics Engineering PORTUGAL URL: http://student.dei.uc.pt/~nemanuel e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm trying to enable the talk in my machine, but can't figure out what's happening. If I try to talk to a local user, I get this message: $ talk zorzella [Your party is refusing messages] [Press any key to continue] Even if mesg is y and talkd is up: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pop3 mail problem
Thus spake Brian Freeze [EMAIL PROTECTED] : I just upgraded my system with the latest pop3 server qpopper from the debian site. I am now getting errors when ever anyone tries to log on and get there mail. Mail client returns this: ERR maillock: '/var/spool/pop/username.pop' /var/log/messages returns this error: Jun 9 12:53:25 www in.qpopper[26900]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -ERR maillock: '/var/spool/pop/randy.pop' /var/log/daemon.log returns: Jun 9 12:53:25 www in.qpopper[26900]: connect from ws2.deltastar.nb.ca I used dftp to update my existing system and it also added shadow passwds to the system. I checked the qpopper docs dir and there is mention of allow.pop and deny.pop which neither file has been setup in /etc but it also stated if they weren't there it would run without them. Any ideas on what could be wrong? Brian, I ran into a similar problem a few months back when migrating from one machine to another. It turned out the problem was permissions on the /var/spool/mail folder. I had not set the sticky bit and it was rejecting everyones attempt to check mail. This may not be the situation for you, but it worked out for me. Good luck. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xinetd bug #20705
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 02:56:44PM -0400, Norbert Veber wrote: The bug report pretty much says: xinetd: samba 1.9.18p3-1 don't work from xinetd (from inetd is ok) What I need is to know if this is a real bug or just a user configuration problem. I personally do not have/use samba, but I know of at least 2 people that use it successfully with xinetd. If someone else could confirm this bug, then I will forward it to the upstream maintainer, otherwise I will close it.. I've submitted this bug. I have two debian boxes: my workstation (hamm) and my server (bo). This bug come with samba 1.9.18 (with 1.9.17 I hadn't this problem). I tried nmbd standalone and from inetd - it simply runs. Then I filled a bug report against xinetd. Hurray, hurray ! I find today a solution, you need add flag=REUSE for nmbd (service netbios-ns) section in xinetd.conf. nmbd is started from xinetd and I see that it runs. Add this to docs and close this bug :) Mirek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fixed] NAS Audio spontaneously stopped working
For the benefit of others, it helps to boot another OS to debug these problems. After 2 months, I booted Win95 and it also failed to play sound, saying there wasn't a sound device. So Linux meant it when it said `No such device or address' ! I opened the case, remove the card and put it back in. Now it works fine. Go figure. Peter I wrote: I noticed that my audio wasn't working any more (on Debian 1.3 bo). Any hints to how to get it working again are appreciated. (Did running 2.0.33 finally catch up to me? I don't know.) # bplay bplay ~/debian-mail.au bplay: /dev/dsp: No such device or address # cat ~/debian-mail.au /dev/audio bash: /dev/audio: No such device or address # mtvp file.mpg Device busy or sampling rate not supported (muting): No such device or address I get the same sort of error trying to start nas (which is what I usually use) bash-2.01# /etc/init.d/nas start Starting the Network Audio System Fatal server error: could not create audio connection block info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which pop3: qpopper or cucipop?
How do I decide which POP3 server to run, qpopper or cucipop? I'll simply be serving mail to my wife's Win95 machine over our lan at home. I'll get her mail from her ISP over my cable modem or ADSL using fetchmail. I don't have to _send_ her outgoing mail; the Win95 box will continue to send it directly to the ISP's SMTP server. The idea is to be able to peek at her mail from upstairs instead of having to go down to the basement where the Win95 box hides. I think TkBiff has a peek feature, or we could just run pine or whatever. -- ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
broadcasting samba messages to a workgroup
Is it possible to broadcast a message to an entire workgroup with currently available software? I didn't see a documentation concerning the messages to a workgroup in smbclient's man page. I know it is possible, because windows can do it... Thanks -Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which pop3: qpopper or cucipop?
On Tue, 09 Jun 1998 08:29:30 -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: How do I decide which POP3 server to run, qpopper or cucipop? Personally I stay away from qpopper as much as possible. cucipop has been running fine for me here for weeks. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quake Segfaults
In debian-user Torsten wrote: For a directory the set t-flag means that only the owner of a file may delete it. Or the owner of the directory (but not the group of the directory). -- #include std_disclaim.h Lorens Kockum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writer support under linux
Does Linux support the HP SureStore 2X6 CD-Writer 7200? The internal model uses the IDE interface and the external model uses a ECP or EPP parallel port. Has anyone used either of these drives (on any OS)? Any comments? According to kernel documentation (2.1.101, paride.txt), the support for ide cdr cdrw's that connect to parallel port is in design-phase, so not yet here. You could say RSN :) --j -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zip and CD-rom (part two)
--- 1. As i mentioned I have an IDE zip-drive, it is recognized as a IDE floppy drive, but it looks like a driver is missing or something, because it does not want to read it. It says it doesn't have a msdos-file format, which it does. 2. Same message on HDA3, where some linux packages are located. Here's my partitioning on the 3,2 GB HD HDA1: Boot 120 MB HDA2: Root 1 GB HDA3: msdos-type (for now) with mail, packages and stuff like that. Is the problem that HDA3 starts after 540 (or something around that) MB ? (woh, problem just solved (needed HDA5 for that partition) I still cannot mount CD-rom and zip though Just plug in a zip-disk and check with fdisk that it can be read (at least the partition table on the disk). How are you trying to mount them ? The exact commands ? --j -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISO 9660 support in Hamm?
I'm running a clean Hamm installation. Since the default kernel doesn't have support for the ISO 9660 file system used in CD-ROMs (shouldn't it be there by default?) I am recompiling the kernel. However the make config menus never ask if I want support for this file system or not. I remember this question was there in previous releases. Any ideas how to get support for this? Thank you, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gcc can't compile, egcc can!??
Hi all,
I can't get gcc to compile anything but egcc can. Example:
/* hello world */
#include stdio.h
int main(void)
{
printf(Hello world!\n);
return 0;
}
/* end hello world */
tcsh% gcc -o hello hello.c
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `__libc_init_first'
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `_environ'
tcsh% egcc -o hello hello.c
tcsh% hello
Hello world!
Brian
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Re[4]: pop3 mail problem
I saw another list member post that we should stay away from qpopper. I haven't heard anything - either good or bad. Do you know what the problem is with that daemon. My Debian machine is serving 600 or so dial-up connections for mail (coming and going) and authentication. If I need to switch for more reliable performance I need to know. Any ideas? Thanks, Michael _ Michael Roark Systems Administrator Telconnect, Inc. v. 912.685.3947 f. 912.685.4880 _ _ Going to church does not make a person religious, nor does going to school make a person educated, any more than going to a garage makes a person a car. - unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??
Hi all,
I can't get gcc to compile anything but egcc can. Example:
/* hello world */
#include stdio.h
int main(void)
{
printf(Hello world!\n);
return 0;
}
/* end hello world */
tcsh% gcc -o hello hello.c
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `__libc_init_first'
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `_environ'
tcsh% egcc -o hello hello.c
tcsh% hello
Hello world!
Ack...hit the wrong key before I was donesorry.
I should mention I have the following installed(from dpkg -l):
ii gcc 2.7.2.3-4.5The GNU C compiler.
ii cpp 2.7.2.3-4.5The GNU C preprocessor.
ii egcc2.90.28-0.1The GNU (egcs) C compiler.
ii libc6 2.0.7pre3-1The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files)
ii libc6-dev 2.0.7pre3-1The GNU C library version 2 (development fil
Thanks for any pointers,
Brian
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Re: Re[4]: pop3 mail problem
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:38:04 -0500 (EST), Michael Roark wrote: I saw another list member post that we should stay away from qpopper. I haven't heard anything - either good or bad. Do you know what the problem is with that daemon. My Debian machine is serving 600 or so dial-up connections for mail (coming and going) and authentication. If I need to switch for more reliable performance I need to know. Any ideas? It is just personal bias on my part against qpopper because of one glaring oversight they made. In the non-standard (IIRC) pop send feature, which I do use from time to time, they properly accept an escaped \n.\n string. EG, they take \n..\n and strip it to the proper \n.\n string. The problem is, when they pass it on to the SMTP server they forget to escape it again so any message which contains a dot on a line by itself will end prematurely. To me that is unforgivable and calls into question what other glaring errors are lurking just below the surface. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recompiling packages
Hi. I was wanting to recomplie a package for use with my debian box. I have downloaded the source file (orig.tar.gz) and the diff file (.diff). I was wondering if someone could tell me an easy way to apply the diff file so that I can compile a 'debianized' version? I'm sure its pretty obvious - but I can't seem to see how yet. Thanx, Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recompiling packages
Chris wrote: Hi. I was wanting to recomplie a package for use with my debian box. I have downloaded the source file (orig.tar.gz) and the diff file (.diff). I was wondering if someone could tell me an easy way to apply the diff file so that I can compile a 'debianized' version? I'm sure its pretty obvious - but I can't seem to see how yet. Thanx, Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] You missed one file: the .dsc file. Brab that too. Put the tar.gz, the diff.gz, and the dsc in a dir together and run dpkg-source -x file.dsc. Where file.dsc is the dsc file name. Then CD into the created dir and run dpkg-buildpackage as root, or use sudo. This will create your own debian package from the orig. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP Proxy for dselect
Does anyone know if it is possible to get dselect to use a http proxy for connecting to ftp sites? I am behind a firewall which restricts ftp, except via a squid proxy server (ie. normally via netscape). Thanks for any insights, Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[6]: pop3 mail problem
Thus spake Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] : On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:38:04 -0500 (EST), Michael Roark wrote: I saw another list member post that we should stay away from qpopper. I haven't heard anything - either good or bad. Do you know what the problem is with that daemon. My Debian machine is serving 600 or so dial-up connections for mail (coming and going) and authentication. If I need to switch for more reliable performance I need to know. Any ideas? It is just personal bias on my part against qpopper because of one glaring oversight they made. In the non-standard (IIRC) pop send feature, which I do use from time to time, they properly accept an escaped \n.\n string. EG, they take \n..\n and strip it to the proper \n.\n string. The problem is, when they pass it on to the SMTP server they forget to escape it again so any message which contains a dot on a line by itself will end prematurely. To me that is unforgivable and calls into question what other glaring errors are lurking just below the surface. Well, that explains some things. I have been getting the following errors _alot_: collect: premature EOM: connection reset by dial31.planters.net collect: I/O error on connection from dial31.planters.net One follows the other without fail. Should I try cucipop instead? Thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??
Hi,
What does g++ say about the file?
I don't use gcc (only g++). I know that at my Uni. some programs don't
compile on gcc because it doesn't support some features. I think that the
problem with the _environ is that it doesn't know that there is a global
variable called environ that passes the environment list to the program,
and still waiting to the int main(int argc, char * argv[], char * envp)
style. I'm not sure about it thought. You should try g++.
Liran.
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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I can't get gcc to compile anything but egcc can. Example:
/* hello world */
#include stdio.h
int main(void)
{
printf(Hello world!\n);
return 0;
}
/* end hello world */
tcsh% gcc -o hello hello.c
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `__libc_init_first'
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `_environ'
tcsh% egcc -o hello hello.c
tcsh% hello
Hello world!
Ack...hit the wrong key before I was donesorry.
I should mention I have the following installed(from dpkg -l):
ii gcc 2.7.2.3-4.5The GNU C compiler.
ii cpp 2.7.2.3-4.5The GNU C preprocessor.
ii egcc2.90.28-0.1The GNU (egcs) C compiler.
ii libc6 2.0.7pre3-1The GNU C library version 2 (run-time
files)
ii libc6-dev 2.0.7pre3-1The GNU C library version 2 (development
fil
Thanks for any pointers,
Brian
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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:02:50 -0500 (EST), Michael Roark wrote: collect: premature EOM: connection reset by dial31.planters.net collect: I/O error on connection from dial31.planters.net One follows the other without fail. Should I try cucipop instead? Well, that depends. I'm not sure if cucipop impliments the nonstandard POP send protocol. I do believe that is proprietary to qpopper and not part of the formal RFC. Of course, I don't have them handy to confirm, so take that all with a mild grain of salt. On the one hand, that error is there. On the other, it does allow users to send mail via pop. This means that the users must authenticate themselves and provides means for users who are on a different connection to get around the relay blocks most ISPs put in place to prevent unwanted UCE runs from spammers. It sounds like a security hole but it there are legit uses to it. Some examples that I use on a daily basis: 1: I have a read-only pop account. To send mail out I've got to have my own connection. Since this is a semiprivate account I don't want to relay through my machine. I send it out through my secondary ISP's qpopper using the pop send feature. 2: I have two different ISPs. I work for one but live outside their calling area so I must get service from another. When at work mail comes from one domain, from home the other. To get around the relay security of my home ISP while at work I, again, use their qpopper pop send feature. I just want to explain that because it is part of the decision. If people are using that feature for legitimate reasons and if you switch to cucipop which, in all likelihood, does not have that feature, you may be angering some people who will no longer have the ability to send that they otherwise would have. It is a trade off. In your case, I dunno what to say. However, in the case where I responded against qpopper it was to a person who wanted a pop server for his wife who had an SMTP path out. In that case, there are no considerations for that one feature and I would wholeheartedly recommend cucipop. Sounds odd that I get so much distrust from a bug in a feature that doesn't exist, but I think there is logic in it somewhere. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
