Re: Compilacion del kernel 2.0.34 con emulacion scsi no va.

1998-06-10 Thread Jordi Roman Mejias
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Antonio Calvo Rodriguez wrote:

 Estoy intentando compilar el kernel 2.0.34 con la opcion de
 emulacion-scsi
 para que me controle una grabadora HP 7100i pero me he encontrado con el
 siguiente
 problema.
 Tras configurar con make menuconfig
 y al hace make-kpkg 
 sale el error siguiente:
...
 In file included from ide.c:311:
 ide.h:69: #error SCSI must also be selected
...
 ---
 Pero en el fichero .config si tengo definido CONFIG_SCSI
 #
 # SCSI support
 #
 CONFIG_SCSI=m  
 Da igual que ponga y o m ya que el error es el mismo.

A parte de decirle que incluyes el soporte SCSI, tienes que
indicarle que controladora SCSI estas utilizando.

¿La HP7100i es SCSI o es IDE? (lo pregunto porque no lo se, y por 
la frase 'emulación SCSI') si es SCSI lo de antes te funcionara, si es IDE
yo diria que no debes necesitar el soporte SCSI, o necesitaras un driver
especial que dialoge entre el dispositivo y el modulo SCSI.

(Como por ejemplo el controlador de ZIP de puerto paralelo)

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Re: Del man a un fichero

1998-06-10 Thread Jordi Roman Mejias
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Juan C. Amengual wrote:

  ¿Como puedo mandar la salida del man a un fichero?

  Una simple redireccion, no vale porque me salen todos los codigos, es
  decir, no sale un fichero limpio.

  Prueba con man2html, el cual convierte paginas de man en HTML. Puedes 
 guardar
 la salida del programa en un fichero y luego visualizarlo con Netscape por
 ejemplo. O si no, puedes probar con rman, el cual es capaz de convertir
 paginas de man en varios formatos, entre ellos Latex, ASCII, HTML y RTF.

la utilidad strings quita los caracteres raros de un fichero. Se
podria usar de la siguiente manera:

man man | strings  kk.txt

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Re: Del man a un fichero

1998-06-10 Thread Octavio Rodriguez Perez
Hola,

En primer lugar muchas gracias Juan, Marcelo, Luis y Jordi.

En linux todas estas soluciones van bien. Pero en la universidad,
trabajo con una Silicon Graphics y es el man de una biblioteca de
Silicon el que me interesa guardar en un fichero.

La solucion de Marcelo aqui casi funciona, me aparecen caracteres bs
intercalados en algunas lineas (y el fichero es muy grande).

Se que entonces no esta justificado preguntar en esta lista, pero como
es una necesidad y no se a quien recurrir ... Sere breve:

¿Sabe alguien donde puedo encontrar ps2ascii, ps2html, man2html y
strings, y en general un mirror del Software GNU, para Silicon Graphics?

En la Universidad de Oviedo, en la plataforma sgi tienen poca cosa.

Gracias,
Octavio


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Debian hamm. Al fin?

1998-06-10 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
Hola,
Habeis mirado ultimamente algun mirror de debian. Yo acabo
de mirar el de rediris y el debian bo ha desaparecido (al
menos no esta donde estaba)
Ahora toda la lista de paquetes corresponde a debian hamm.
Significa eso que por fin ha terminado el desarrollo de la
version hamm y todos los paquetes se han estabilizado?
Sin embargo, no he encontrado (tampoco he mirado con mucho
detenimiento) ningun fichero que hable del proceso de
actualizacion. Alguien sabria decirme donde conseguir esa
informacion o paquetes?

Hasta mas bits,

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libpthread

1998-06-10 Thread Jose Miguel Gurpegui
Hola,

Estoy intentando hacer el traspaso de libc5 a libc6.
Instalo el nuevo paquete ldso y luego intento instalar
libc6-2.07pre1-4.deb. Me dice que entra en conflicto con mi
paquete libc5. Lo actualizo y sigo. Ahora me dice que entra
en conflicto con el paquete libpthread0_0.5-2.deb y que necesita
0.7-10. Busco por algunos servidores FTPs y sólo encuentro
0.6-1. Pregunta:

¿Dónde está el paquete de libpthread adecuado para la
libc6-2.07pre1-4.deb?

Saludos,

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Re: Del man a un fichero

1998-06-10 Thread Agustmn Martmn Domingo
Octavio Rodriguez Perez wrote:
 
 Hola,
 
 ?Como puedo mandar la salida del man a un fichero?
 
 Una simple redireccion, no vale porque me salen todos los codigos, es
 decir, no sale un fichero limpio.

Si tienes un filtro de impresora adecuado para postscript o una
impresora postscript directamente, (Por ejemplo para 'cpio', sustituye
'cpio' por la pagina de manual que quieres imprimir)

  man -t -Tps cpio | lpr

Si la impresora postscript no es la definida por omision sustituye 

lpr por lpr -Ptu_impresora_postscript

Creo que no necesitas aqadir -Tps a man porque te lo saca por omision en
postscript. Si no tienes una impresora postscript o un filtro adecuado,

  man -t -Tps tu_manpage  tu_manpage.ps

y luego lo sacarias con el ghostscript

Saludos,
---BeginMessage---
Octavio Rodriguez Perez wrote:
 
 Hola,
 
 ?Como puedo mandar la salida del man a un fichero?
 
 Una simple redireccion, no vale porque me salen todos los codigos, es
 decir, no sale un fichero limpio.

Si tienes un filtro de impresora adecuado para postscript o una
impresora postscript directamente, (Por ejemplo para 'cpio', sustituye
'cpio' por la pagina de manual que quieres imprimir)

man -t -Tps cpio | lpr

Si la impresora postscript no es la definida por omision sustituye 

lpr por lpr -Ptu_impresora_postscript

Creo que no necesitas aqadir -Tps a man porque te lo saca por omision en
postscript. Si no tienes una impresora postscript o un filtro adecuado,

man -t -Tps tu_manpage  tu_manpage.ps

y luego lo sacarias con el ghostscript

Saludos,


 
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RE: No consigo conectarme a internet

1998-06-10 Thread J. Parera

-Mensaje original-
De: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: J. Parera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha: dimarts, 9 / juny / 1998 20:35
Asunto: Re: No consigo conectarme a internet


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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, J. Parera wrote:

 Les he adjuntado los scripts junto con algún ficherito de más
 (/var/log/messages).

 Pregunta capciosa: ¿De veras era necesario el /var/log/messages
 enterito, desde el 30 de Mayo? ...


Uno que es un pelín despistadillo en cuanto a mantenimiento del sistema 

 Ten en cuenta que no todos los que reciben esta lista tienen una conexión
 directa...

Ni yo  :) Pero a mi enviarlo no me supuso demasiado tiempo

 Gracias.


Saludos.

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Re: Del man a un fichero

1998-06-10 Thread Gerardo Aburruzaga Garcia
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On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Octavio Rodriguez Perez wrote:

 Hola,
 
 En primer lugar muchas gracias Juan, Marcelo, Luis y Jordi.
 
 En linux todas estas soluciones van bien. Pero en la universidad,
 trabajo con una Silicon Graphics y es el man de una biblioteca de
 Silicon el que me interesa guardar en un fichero.
 
 La solucion de Marcelo aqui casi funciona, me aparecen caracteres bs
 intercalados en algunas lineas (y el fichero es muy grande).

Para quitarlos:

man [SECCIÓN] TÍTULO | col -b  FICHERO-DE-SALIDA

Por ejemplo: 

man col | col -b  col.1

 ¿Sabe alguien donde puedo encontrar ps2ascii, ps2html, man2html y
 strings, y en general un mirror del Software GNU, para Silicon Graphics?
 
 En la Universidad de Oviedo, en la plataforma sgi tienen poca cosa.
 

Puedes buscar en cualquier espejo de GNU, traerte los fuentes, compilarlos
para la SGI e instalarlos.

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Re: Compilacion del kernel 2.0.34 con emulacion scsi no va.

1998-06-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 09:22:00AM +0200, Jordi Roman Mejias wrote:

  Pero en el fichero .config si tengo definido CONFIG_SCSI
  #
  # SCSI support
  #
  CONFIG_SCSI=m  
  Da igual que ponga y o m ya que el error es el mismo.
 
   A parte de decirle que incluyes el soporte SCSI, tienes que
 indicarle que controladora SCSI estas utilizando.

El caso es que no tiene ninguna. Lo que falta por indicar es soporte SCSI
para que: disco duro, cdrom, misc, tape? Creo que proceso de compilacion
ve que nada va a usar SCSI asi que no lo pone... creo.


Marcelo


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Re: make-kpkg

1998-06-10 Thread Horacio Suarez


Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 08:26:34AM -0300, Horacio Suarez wrote:

  Quisiera saber que hace el make-kpkg que lei por ahi en un mensage.

 Es para hacer paquetes del kernel en formato .deb

 Basicamente:

 $ cd v2.0.34
 $ make menuconfig
 ...
 $ make-kpkg --revision 2.0.34.L.1 kernel_image
 ...
 $ cd ..
 $ dpkg -i kernel_image_2.0.34-2.0.34.L.1_i386.deb
 ...
 $ shutdown -r now

 Marcelo

Muchas gracias. Disculpen la ignorancia, pero para que necesito hacer un .deb 
del
kernel?
Horacio.


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Re: make-kpkg

1998-06-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 11:07:59AM -0300, Horacio Suarez wrote:

 Muchas gracias. Disculpen la ignorancia, pero para que necesito hacer un
 .deb del kernel?

En mi caso, necesito algunas cosas del kernel en desarrollo (2.1.x) asi que
lo tengo que compilar, pero el problema es que lo necesito para tres
maquinas diferentes (en particular, con distinto procesador), y ademas tengo
disponible un Pentium II de 233 MHz (el kernel aqui se compila en menos de 8
minutos!). Asi, usando make-kpkg puedo compilar los tres kerneles en esa
maquina, e instalarlo adecuadamente en donde corresponde.

Ademas la persona que mantiene el paquete kernel-package (Manoj Srivastava)
ha hecho un excelente trabajo para hacer que los paquetes producidos de esta
forma no estropeen nada, y de hecho le informan al usuario de situaciones
peligrosas que de otra forma podrian pasar desapercibidas (claro, nada
reemplaza leer la documentacion apropiada)


Marcelo


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Re: make-kpkg

1998-06-10 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Marcelo E. Magallon decía:
 $ make-kpkg --revision 2.0.34.L.1 kernel_image
Personalemente yo pongo
$ LC_ALL=C make-kpkg --revision revision kernel_image
para evitar problemas con el substvars.

Luis.
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Fuentes texi de los info

1998-06-10 Thread Esteban Crespi

¿Alguien sabe donde se pueden encontrar los fuentes de los info, es
decir los ficheros .texi ? Lo que quiero hacer es imprimirlos con
TeX.

Por ejemplo: El fichero bash.info empieza con la siguientes líneas:

This is Info file bashref.info, produced by Makeinfo-1.64 from the
input file ./bashref.texi.

he buscado en sunsite y en rediris y no he sido capaz de encontrar el
fichero bashref.texi

Esteban.

p.d. muchas gracias a Correcaminos y a Marcelo por su ayuda con mi
modem Supra. Ya he conseguido que el modem conteste, y ahora me estoy
pegando con el PPP (por el momento gana el).


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Re: A debian-user question.

1998-06-10 Thread Ralph Winslow
Karsten Bolding wrote:
 
 This is not a debian specific question - but its asked by a debian user
 and will be used on a debian system...
 
 I'm in the process of writing a frontend to a turbulence modelling
 system.
 For the GUI I'm thinking of either perl-tk or using the visual tcl
 package - any opinions? The GUI will contain radio-buttons,
 entry-fields, file-browser etc. to specify the different parameters for
 the model.

I'd definitely go with perl-tk for this.  IIRC, it'll do your graphing,
too.
 
 My real question concerns a package that will do real time plotting of
 the results of the turbulence modelling - this is simple X-Y graphs but
 they evolve over time so I need to - at run time - update the graphs
 based on the results of the turbulence calculations. Since I'm not at
 all a X-programmer I would like something a bit more high-level.
 
 If this is going to work - the resulting code would be an example of
 very specialized open-source code.
 
 Karsten
 
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multifunction device support? HP LaserJet 3100

1998-06-10 Thread Kiyan Azarbar
My dad just bought one of those new-fangled multi-function devices, for
faxing, copying, scanning (in a limited sense I guess, not a flatbed color
scanner), and printing. 

It's an HP LaserJet 3100. I checked the manufacture date: Apr 8, 1998, so it's
pretty damn new. Of course everything will be fine and dandy in Windows, but I
never boot into Windows anymore, nor do I want to. We have a little 3-node LAN
set up here on coax with ancient SMC 8013 cards that works for us so far. My
dad used to have a Canon BJC-4000, and I used to print to it using the bjc-600
magicfilter filter (slightly tweaked to 600 dpi, I think).

I was wondering... does anyone know what filter this new device is best suited
for? Should I use the ghostscript laserjet driver, ljetplus, ljet3, 4, or
what?

As far as I can tell it ain't a postscript printer... so I'm hesitant to
select any of the ones I listed.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: multifunction device support? HP LaserJet 3100

1998-06-10 Thread Lee Bradshaw
I looked at one of those too and as far as I could figure out it's a
winprinter. It supposedly has the HP6L print hardware, but it doesn't
support PCL or postscript. I think all the intelligence was moved to the
windows driver. There is a web page about a group trying to get linux to
support the OfficeJet series. I don't know if they're considering this
product or not. I think the OfficeJet products come from a different
division and are ink jet printers, while the 3100 is a laser printer.
Since the products were developed by different groups, the driver might
not be similar.

On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 05:39:00PM -0400, Kiyan Azarbar wrote:
 My dad just bought one of those new-fangled multi-function devices, for
 faxing, copying, scanning (in a limited sense I guess, not a flatbed color
 scanner), and printing. 
 
 It's an HP LaserJet 3100. I checked the manufacture date: Apr 8, 1998, so it's
 pretty damn new. Of course everything will be fine and dandy in Windows, but I
 never boot into Windows anymore, nor do I want to. We have a little 3-node LAN
 set up here on coax with ancient SMC 8013 cards that works for us so far. My
 dad used to have a Canon BJC-4000, and I used to print to it using the bjc-600
 magicfilter filter (slightly tweaked to 600 dpi, I think).
 
 I was wondering... does anyone know what filter this new device is best suited
 for? Should I use the ghostscript laserjet driver, ljetplus, ljet3, 4, or
 what?
 
 As far as I can tell it ain't a postscript printer... so I'm hesitant to
 select any of the ones I listed.
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
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Help: green smail and hamm

1998-06-10 Thread Roy Pluschke
Just got a new computer and decided to do a new (not an upgrade)
install of hamm(frozen) by using dselect with ftp.
So far I have gotten all the Standard
files and everything went smoothly with the following
exceptions:

1. the smail and lynx files on the ftp server were different
   than those in the Packages file. I installed these using dpkg
   later.

2. I had to run deselct several times to get tex to install.
   Have not fully tested it yet but seems OK.

current status:

1: dselect now runs without any packages showing dependancy problems
   or any errors.

2: I can connect to my isp, use lynx, ftp etc.
   I can ping localhost, talk between users (using vt's, it's
   a stand alone system).

MY PROBLEM:

I can't get (s)mail to work, even locally.  The smail error files
show me it can't even find root.  I have tried almost every
possible option using smailconfig --force, but still no luck.
perhaps there are some packages required that I don't have yet?

What I would like my machine to do:

It is a stand alone machine with a modem connection to the internet.
It is used by four people that use local mail to pass messages to
each other. I have 1 mailbox with my ISP but several aliases for
that mailbox (one for each user). 

I would like to have

 - local mail sent immediately
 - if connected have internet mail sent immediately
 - if offline queue the internet bound mesages and send them
   when anyone initiates an internet connection.
 - when an internet connection is made by anyone get any
   mail from my ISP's pop3 server and sort and deliver the mail
   locally according to their aliases (each user should only
   be able to read his own mail, obviously).
 - these users use several different mail programs (including
   netscape) to read their mail, probably not a problem?
 
additional questions:

  to which group should I add a user to allow them to initiate
  a ppp dialup connection (pon), or failing this what's the safest way
  to accomplish this.
  
  If a user terminates the ppp connection during the uploading
  or downloading of mail will it cause problems and if so how
  can I avoid them.

Lastly would like to thank the debian volunteers for their time
and effort, it is greatly appreciated!!

Thanks again,
Roy Pluschke  




 


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Printer (port) Problems

1998-06-10 Thread Mark Yobb
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 07:35:22 -0400
From: Bob Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Very little, if any.
To: Mark Yobb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Printer (port) Problems
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mark Yobb wrote:
 
Hi, I would really appreciate some's help.  I have been trying to get
 my linux system working for a long time.  I have install Redhat 4.1, Redhat
 5.0, Slackwear, etc.  I think I have found the distribution I want in Debian
 but now I have to get my system working right!
 
 When I try to print something with lpr using a command like:
 
 lpr XF86Config
 
 I get the message:
 
 Driver configured but no interfaces found.
 
 This message keeps poping up on my screen every few minutes also.  (Even
 after I kill the print job with lprm.)  Also I noticed this same message
 appears in my boot message as well.  dmesg shows that it appears a bunch of
 times at the end of the startup message file.
 
 Is this because my lp0 or lp1 is not configure by the kernel right.  Do I
 not have a module loaded or something?  Maybe the kernel is not finding lp0
 or lp1?  Do I have to remake the kernel or something?
 
 Please help.  I am totally at a loss as to what I should be doing?


You do have to enable the parrallel ports, as well as the serial ports
in the kernel.  You could test this with a command line call, that
should enable the port.  See the LILO docs for the proper method for
your distribution.  Did you try cat filename  /dev/lp? ?  if your lpd
is not set up correctly, this could also be your trouble.  How bout your
print filter?  Is your /etc/printcap correct?  There is an excellent doc
available in your /usr/doc/HOWTO, actuallu two of them, one on printer
set up, the other on usage.  Check em out.


Thanks.  I still am totally confused though.  I read Kernel-HOWTO,
the LILO docs and other literature and I still don't know what I am doing.
I got my distribution from a single CD release (cheap bytes Debian 1.3.1)
and it seems I don't have as may docs as I should.
Anyway, I used modprobe -a and loaded all modules.  I then got a
stepped text output from my printer after issuing the command lpr
textfile.  This is good.  I am getting somewhere.  I then considered
configuring my printcap whatever thingy so it would format correctly buy
instead I install HP filters (which includes magicfilter).  It then said
that it could not reach printer at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Man am I (^*^%^%*(^.

What I really need to know is how to configure a Kernel.  What
directory should I be in when I make config.  I am using bo 1.3.1.  I
loaded the Kernel source (Kernel 2.0.32) and then I typed make config in the
/usr/src directory and the thing said *** No rule to make target config'.
Stop.

Please help.  What am I missing? 






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Re: HTTP Proxy for dselect

1998-06-10 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Chris wrote:

 Does anyone know if it is possible to get dselect to use a http proxy for
 connecting to ftp sites?  I am behind a firewall which restricts ftp,
 except via a squid proxy server (ie. normally via netscape).

The APT dselect method works well over a proxy sever grab it from
http://www.debian.org/~jgg/ and set http_proxy=http://x.x.x.x:3128/; for
instance.

Jason


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Re: Realtek rtl8029 PCI Network card installation

1998-06-10 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

I have one of these cards, it works fine with the standard NE driver, no
need for those files.

There are two techiniques,
   #1) Use 2.0.34 and enable the PCI NE-2k support and then either load
   the ne2k-pci module or compile it into the kernel
   #2) Use 'cat /proc/pci' to determine the IO port of the card and pass
   that to NE, ala, 'modprobe ne io=0x7f80'

I've used both with no troubles.

Jason



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Re: Help: green smail and hamm

1998-06-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 05:38:36PM -0700, Roy Pluschke wrote:
 
  - local mail sent immediately
  - if connected have internet mail sent immediately
  - if offline queue the internet bound mesages and send them
when anyone initiates an internet connection.

# smailconfig

Option (1), then using smarthost, enter the ISP mailserver there.

  - when an internet connection is made by anyone get any
mail from my ISP's pop3 server and sort and deliver the mail
locally according to their aliases (each user should only
be able to read his own mail, obviously).

Install fetchmail. It will fetch mails from an account. It will only deliver
to one user account on your system for each user account on your ISP (if
every of the four users have their own account at the ISP, this is what you
want). You want to install a /etc/fetchmailrc file and the example files
/usr/doc/fetchmail/fetchmail-up and /usr/doc/fetchmail/fetchmail-down in
/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ resp. /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/. Don't forget to chmod +x this
two files, or they won't start.

You can use procmail or mailagent to filter the mail. This would allow to do
any sort of things you want to do with your mail.

A sample /etc/fetchmailrc for only one user is attached.

Files in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ are automagically started when the PPP connection
comes up.

  - these users use several different mail programs (including
netscape) to read their mail, probably not a problem?

This is not related to your mail setup in any way. I'm not sure about
Netscape, though.

 additional questions:
 
   to which group should I add a user to allow them to initiate
   a ppp dialup connection (pon), or failing this what's the safest way
   to accomplish this.

The group is dip. Check the group of /usr/sbin/pppd, it's a setuid binary.

   If a user terminates the ppp connection during the uploading
   or downloading of mail will it cause problems and if so how
   can I avoid them.

No. fetchmail is smart enough to *not* flush the mail in question.

 Lastly would like to thank the debian volunteers for their time
 and effort, it is greatly appreciated!!

No probs. Come back with more questions if you have problems.

Marcus

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# fetchmail control file sample
#
# This file (or one of your own creation, rather) should be located 
# in your home directory with the name .fetchmailrc.  Permissions on this
# file may be no greater than -rw--- (0600), or fetchmail will refuse to
# use it.

# To see what effect your ~/.fetchmailrc file has, do 
#
#   fetchmail --version
#
# This will display the fetchmail version number and an explanation
# in English of what the currently set options and defaults mean.
#
# Comments begin with a '#' and extend through the end of the line.
# Blank lines between server entries are ignored.
# Keywords and identifiers are case sensitive.
# When there is a conflict between the command-line arguments and the
# arguments in this file, the command-line arguments take precedence.
#
# Legal keywords are
#   poll  -- must be followed by a mailserver name
#   skip  -- must be followed by a mailserver name
#   interval  -- must be followed by an interval skip count
#   protocol (or proto)   -- must be followed by a protocol ID
#   uidl
#   port  -- must be followed by a TCP/IP port number
#   authenticate (or auth)-- must be followed by an authentication type
#   timeout   -- must be followed by a numeric timeout value
#   envelope  -- must be followed by an envelope header name
#   aka   -- must be followed by one or more server aliases
#   localdomains  -- must be followed by one or more domain names
#   interface -- must be followed by device/IP address/mask
#   monitor   -- must be followed by IP address
#
#   username (or user)-- must be followed by a name
#   is-- must be followed by one or more names
#   folder-- must be followed by remote folder names
#   password (or pass)-- must be followed by a password string
#   smtphost (or smtp)-- must be followed by host names
#   mda   -- must be followed by an MDA command string
#   preconnect (or pre)   -- must be followed by an initialization command
#
#   keep
#   flush
#   fetchall
#   rewrite
#   forcecr
#   stripcr
#   pass8bits
#   dns
#   no keep
#   no flush
#   no fetchall
#   no rewrite
#   no forcecr
#   no stripcr
#   no dns
#   no envelope
#   limit -- must be followed by numeric size limit
#   fetchlimit  

Re: Printer (port) Problems

1998-06-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 06:38:48PM -0700, Mark Yobb wrote:

 Anyway, I used modprobe -a and loaded all modules.

Maybe not the best idea. Try modconf.

 I then got a stepped text output from my printer after issuing the command 
 lpr
 textfile.  This is good.  I am getting somewhere.

Yeah, the hardware side is working.

 I then considered
 configuring my printcap whatever thingy so it would format correctly buy
 instead I install HP filters (which includes magicfilter).  It then said
 that it could not reach printer at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Man am I (^*^%^%*(^.

Dump your printcap file. Purge and reinstall magicfilter. Don't install
anything else for now. It then should work out of the box.

BTW: Can you do telnet debain.homebase (and why is debian miss-spelled?)
What is your hostname, what your domainname. What do you have in /etc/hosts
et al.?

 What I really need to know is how to configure a Kernel.  What
 directory should I be in when I make config.  I am using bo 1.3.1.  I
 loaded the Kernel source (Kernel 2.0.32) and then I typed make config in the
 /usr/src directory and the thing said *** No rule to make target config'.
 Stop.

# cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32
# make config
# make-kpkg clean
# make-kpkg --revision custom.1.0 kernel_image
# cd ..
# dpkg -i kernel-please fill in complete name.deb

Reboot. Done.

Marcus

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Re: auctex not happening

1998-06-10 Thread Mark Phillips

  .emacs file.  I believe this qualifies as a Debian bug (for the auctex
  package?).
 
 AFAIK it is not. AUCTeX is separate package for Emacs, and there is
 native(?) tex-mode in Emacs. In other words, if someone wants to use
 AuCTeX, she/he should put require tex-site in .emacs.

The fact that someone is installing AUCTeX would suggest to me that
they probably want require tex-site in their .emacs.  So either
this should be done automatically, or probably even better, the configure
script should prompt the user, asking them if they want this done.

The thing that annoyed me is that AUCTeX was working on my bo system, but
after upgrading it stopped working.  So either upgrading AUCTeX or
upgrading emacs changed require tex-site so that it was commented
out in my .emacs script.

Cheers,

Mark.

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Re: XFree86 + Netscape

1998-06-10 Thread Mark Phillips

 I am presently attempting to install both XFree86 and Netscape to a
 Debian O/S which I recently setup. My lack of knowledge in this area
 leaves me with a huge amount of questions, as you can see below.

Are you using dselect to install your debian system?  It should tell you
automatically what debian packages you need to install.  In dselect, if
you select netscape and you haven't installed packages like xbase, then
it will tell you that you have a dependency problem to correct, and tell
you what packages you need to install to correct this problem.

Cheers,

Mark.

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looking for a X-based Tcl/Tk FTP browser

1998-06-10 Thread Paul Miller

I'm looking for an attractive X-based Tcl/Tk FTP browser that I could
modify to use smbclient instead of ftp.

Any names, or even ideas?


Thanks
-Paul


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Re: ISO 9660 support in Hamm?

1998-06-10 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm running a clean Hamm installation. Since the default kernel doesn't have 
 support for the ISO 9660 file system used in CD-ROMs (shouldn't it be there 
 by default?) I am recompiling the kernel.
 
 However the make config menus never ask if I want support for this file 
 system or not. I remember this question was there in previous releases. Any 
 ideas how to get support for this?
 
 Thank you,

Remember to say yes to NLS, then you'll get it.


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Re: A debian-user question.

1998-06-10 Thread Johann Spies
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Ralph Winslow wrote:

 Karsten Bolding wrote:
  
  This is not a debian specific question - but its asked by a debian user
  and will be used on a debian system...
  
  I'm in the process of writing a frontend to a turbulence modelling
  system.
  For the GUI I'm thinking of either perl-tk or using the visual tcl
  package - any opinions? The GUI will contain radio-buttons,
  entry-fields, file-browser etc. to specify the different parameters for
  the model.
 
 I'd definitely go with perl-tk for this.  IIRC, it'll do your graphing,
 too.
  

Have a look at python also.

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slrnpull stopped pulling.

1998-06-10 Thread Johann Spies
Hallo,

I have used slrn and slrnpull to read 4 newsgroups
(comp.lang.python.announce, comp.lang.python, comp.os.linux announce,
comp.os.linux.answers) for a few months and then it just happened that no
new articles were collected anymore for the last two or three weeks. 

Even when I run slrnpull manually while my connection to the ISP is
active, everything seems OK as far as the connection to the news server is
concerned.  The message in the case of each of the newsgroups is just that
there are no new articles. 

I enquired about this at my ISP and the answer was that they are not aware
of a problem.

Does any one know what could have gone wrong?

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Re: Shutdown messages not visible after xdm stopped

1998-06-10 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Gerd Bavendiek wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I recently set up a hamm-system running xdm. When shutting down, there 
 are no messages from the moment xdm disappears and the console comes
 back until to the final system halted.
 
 I disabled xdm and used startx. After beeing back from X to the
 console I noticed that all messages during shutdown are issued.
 
 Anyone else ?
 

I get it too, but its just the system changing VT's. Use ALT-Fx to get
back to the terminal you typed ( CTRL-ALT-DEL | halt | reboot | etc ) on,
and you should get the rest of the messages.


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How to copy partition?

1998-06-10 Thread kriol

Hi, All

i had 330M old segate disk as my /.

Now i'm getting 2Gig disk, but the question is -
how to copy the system from
old seagate to the new disk
(or to the new disk partition). I don't want
to reinstall/reconfigure everything...

Is there Debian way/package for such things?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

thanks

OK


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Debian GNU/Linux and e-Commerce ??

1998-06-10 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
Hello out there,

since I believe that there are not only a few ISP's among
the Debian users  are there any projects to create
a GPL'd or otherwise free e-Commerce solution?   

If not -- what about starting a free e-Commerce project for
(Debian) Linux?


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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 09:43:07AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 On Tue, 09 Jun 1998 09:36:04 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 
 Well, that depends.  I'm not sure if cucipop impliments the nonstandard
 POP send protocol.  I do believe that is proprietary to qpopper and not part
 of the formal RFC.  Of course, I don't have them handy to confirm, so take
 that all with a mild grain of salt.
 
 Just wanted to say that cucipop does not support pop sends.  Just tried
 it and it returned:
 
 Tue, 09 Jun 98 09:41:06 == -ERR Invalid command, try one of: STAT, LIST
 [msg], RETR msg, TOP msg n, DELE msg, UIDL [msg], NOOP, RSET, QUIT ; Your
 server, while it is a POP3 server, does not support sending.
 
 I think the last part pretty much sums it up.  ;)

A few messages back you said that you found qpopper unacceptable because
the POP send is buggy, so you preferred cucipop. Now you say cucipop
doesn't even have POP send. Am I missing something here?


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Re: 2.0.34

1998-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 08:30:36PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 bash-2.00# ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 255.255.255.128 broadcast 
 203.14.18.127
 SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument
 
 It doesn't work on 2.0.32 either, I just discovered.
 
 Works for me:
 
 # ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 255.255.255.128 broadcast 203.14.18.127

 ii  netbase 3.01-1 Basic TCP/IP networking binaries

I have netbase 2.16-1 (it's a bo box). However it appears to be a kernel
error message. Very strange. I will try to get a newer ifconfig and see
if that works.


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LinuxConf

1998-06-10 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
Hi all,

I friend of mine is running RedHat 5.1 (i have tried to convert him, but
without any luck) and he was telling me that RedHat is now using the Linuxconf
package, and I was wondering how compatiable Linuxconf is with Debian 1.3.1(bo)
and 2.0(hamm)?  And is there a .deb package for the latest version and is there
any plans to incorperate it with Debian?

Regards

Graham


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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:29:10 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

A few messages back you said that you found qpopper unacceptable because
the POP send is buggy, so you preferred cucipop. Now you say cucipop
doesn't even have POP send. Am I missing something here?

Yes.  You must read the *WHOLE* message and try to comprehend it.

To me that is unforgivable and calls into question what other glaring
errors are lurking just below the surface.

IE, it isn't the fact that it is buggy, it is the nature of the bug which
calls into question the quality of the rest of the code.  On one had they
adhere to RFC822 by using the escaped dor sequence.  Then they turn around
and *FAIL* to escape the same sequence they accepted when they pass it on.

Also, I did point out that for my uses, and the uses of the person I
replied to pop send was not needed.  However, some people might have a need
to offer it to their users.  In the former I don't recommend qpopper because
I feel it is shoddy.  In the latter I don't make a recommendation because it
all depends on what the person feels his or her user needs.

Finally, my ISP has over 6,500 users and we get regular problems with
qpopper incorrectly deleting messages from the mail file and causing problems
with, of all things, large attachments when the other end is a Eudora client.

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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 01:41:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:29:10 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
 A few messages back you said that you found qpopper unacceptable because
 the POP send is buggy, so you preferred cucipop. Now you say cucipop
 doesn't even have POP send. Am I missing something here?
 
 Yes.  You must read the *WHOLE* message and try to comprehend it.

You're not here to make friends, are you, Steve?

 To me that is unforgivable and calls into question what other glaring
 errors are lurking just below the surface.
 
 IE, it isn't the fact that it is buggy, it is the nature of the bug which
 calls into question the quality of the rest of the code.  On one had they
 adhere to RFC822 by using the escaped dor sequence.  Then they turn around
 and *FAIL* to escape the same sequence they accepted when they pass it on.

It is probably a simple oversight. Had you reported it, it could no doubt
be fixed easily (Miquel has indicated that he has already fixed some things
as necessary). I don't think a simple bug such as this is sufficient
to comment on the quality of the entire program.

Miquel and others have indicated similarly user base sizes to you without
problems, which is strange.


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Re: How to copy partition?

1998-06-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hi, All
  
  i had 330M old segate disk as my /.
  
  Now i'm getting 2Gig disk, but the question is -
  how to copy the system from
  old seagate to the new disk
  (or to the new disk partition). I don't want
  to reinstall/reconfigure everything...
  
  Is there Debian way/package for such things?

If you can have both disks installed, make the partition on the new
disk (`fdisk /dev/hdc' or whatever); make the filesystem (mkfs)

Then mount the new disk:

   # mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt  [make appropriate substitutions for hdc1]

then copy the root file system (excluding /mnt)

   # mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt
   # find / -xdev | cpio -pdm /mnt

If you are using lilo, you should probably run /sbin/lilo and tell it to
write a boot sector on the new disk.

Now you can shutdown and replace the old disk with the new one, and it ought
to work.


An alternative:

With so large a disk, you may want to make separate partitions for
root, /var, /usr and /home, or some combination; this means that a disaster
to one partition won't affect the others.

Suppose that you want to fill a new /usr partition which is on /dev/hdc1:
mount the new partition on /mnt:

   # mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt
   # cd /
   # cp -a usr /mnt
[cp -a is an alternative to the find|cpio I used above; find|cpio should work
on any Unix, whereas cp -a may not.]
   # umount /mnt
 
Do the same for the other partitions; the trickiest is root itself, since you
must exclude the directories that go to other partitions. I think that `cp -a'
and `find / -xdev' do that, but it needs checking.  (If you are going
to keep the old disk in your machine, there's no need to move root - just
delete the contents of the directories that you have copied and mount the
new partitions on them. That will leave root on the old disk, with more
space, and everything else on the new one.)

Edit new-root_partition/etc/fstab to list the partitions and say which
ones are to be mounted automatically; shutdown and reboot.
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Re: looking for a X-based Tcl/Tk FTP browser

1998-06-10 Thread Alan Cox
 I'm looking for an attractive X-based Tcl/Tk FTP browser that I could
 modify to use smbclient instead of ftp.

Attractive and Tk. Strange pairing. TkDesk is probably the nearest. However
you might be better of playing with midnight commander as this has both
multiple output ends (gnome-gtk,tk,openlook,slang...) and virtualised file
system layers (ftp, tar  etc). So you can teach it smbfs files and it'll
do the rest


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Hamm upgrade to Slink

1998-06-10 Thread Randy Edwards
Now that hamm has been frozen I'm starting to miss the routine of
playing with new packages on my home system. :-)  So I was playing
with the idea of upgrading to slink and running that.

Unlike the upgrade from bo to hamm, I can find no docs/readme's on a
hamm to slink upgrade.  Can someone who is running slink fill me in on
a couple of things?

First, how buggy is slink?  I'll be upgrading a home system so it's
not like it's a critical box, but I'm not the most experienced Linuxer
and was curious about this.  Secondly, what's involved with the exact
hamm to slink upgrade?  Is there any dramatic library upgrades?  Is it
just a matter of dpkg'ing the new slink packages?

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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:51:41 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 01:41:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:29:10 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
 A few messages back you said that you found qpopper unacceptable because
 the POP send is buggy, so you preferred cucipop. Now you say cucipop
 doesn't even have POP send. Am I missing something here?
 
 Yes.  You must read the *WHOLE* message and try to comprehend it.

You're not here to make friends, are you, Steve?

 To me that is unforgivable and calls into question what other glaring
 errors are lurking just below the surface.
 
 IE, it isn't the fact that it is buggy, it is the nature of the bug which
 calls into question the quality of the rest of the code.  On one had they
 adhere to RFC822 by using the escaped dor sequence.  Then they turn around
 and *FAIL* to escape the same sequence they accepted when they pass it on.

It is probably a simple oversight. Had you reported it, it could no doubt
be fixed easily (Miquel has indicated that he has already fixed some things
as necessary). I don't think a simple bug such as this is sufficient
to comment on the quality of the entire program.

Miquel and others have indicated similarly user base sizes to you without
problems, which is strange.


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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:51:41 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 01:41:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:29:10 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 A few messages back you said that you found qpopper unacceptable because
 the POP send is buggy, so you preferred cucipop. Now you say cucipop
 doesn't even have POP send. Am I missing something here?

 Yes.  You must read the *WHOLE* message and try to comprehend it.

You're not here to make friends, are you, Steve?

With people who question my position when it was clearly stated in at
least three messages in the same thread?  No.  I think that is insulting.

It is probably a simple oversight.

So simple it should not have been there in the first place.

Had you reported it, it could no doubt be fixed easily (Miquel has indicated 
that he has already fixed some things as necessary).

And as stated, it was not something I was concerned with doing nor was it
during my time with Debian so what Miquel could do or could not do is
irrelevant.

I don't think a simple bug such as this is sufficient to comment on the 
quality of the entire program.

I do when it comes to one of the basic functions of the program that
should have been checked at least half a dozen times before it was first
introduced into stable code.



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Re: A debian-user question.

1998-06-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Karsten Bolding wrote:

 For the GUI I'm thinking of either perl-tk or using the visual tcl
 package - any opinions? The GUI will contain radio-buttons,
 entry-fields, file-browser etc. to specify the different parameters for
 the model.

Don't choose either of these without at least first considering tk over 
python (www.python.org). Though one could run into religious wars 
comparing perl and python, I'm certainly happier modularising python than 
I was with perl, and tk seems to be well integrated. I'm in the early 
stages of a project with them myself.

 My real question concerns a package that will do real time plotting of
 the results of the turbulence modelling - this is simple X-Y graphs but
 they evolve over time so I need to - at run time - update the graphs
 based on the results of the turbulence calculations. Since I'm not at
 all a X-programmer I would like something a bit more high-level.

Couldn't disagree with another's mention of gnuplot.

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Re: Multiple IP numbers, one for each Subnet

1998-06-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Ian Stuart wrote:

 I'm using a i386 portable with 2.0.34 installed.  I have a requirement to
 plug this machine into various subnets, depending on where I'm working
 within my organisation.
 
 Is there a way to configure the system so that I can use 
 (a) 4 or 5 different gateways (only one of which will be reachable at one
 time) and
 (b) 4 or 5 IP numbers, only one of which will be valid at any one time?

There are very few files that actually contain IP numbers, viz.
/etc/resolv.conf, /etc/hosts, /etc/networks and /etc/init.d/network and
the first of these would probably stay the same as we're talking subnets.

So all you need is a few scripts hacked from the last, that delete the two 
(network and gateway) routes, ifconfig the new number, and add the two new 
routes. They could meanwhile overwrite the middle two files as well.

ifconfig and route commands are totally dynamic; I don't think daemons 
etc. should hold onto any of this information. (I don't have a clue what 
reads /etc/networks though I suppose you could use it yourself to delete 
the appropriate -net route.)

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pppd-2.3.5 pap authentification does not work

1998-06-10 Thread Peter Weiss
hello debians,

after upgrading my machine to hamm I got problems using my old ppp
configuration. The connection establishes but pppd doesn't send the
pap-password from the pap secrets file.

I read a bug report on ppp-2.3.5-0.1 that pap authentification does not
work with this package so I'd like to send this to the list.

All options set in /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peer/provider:

  $ grep -v '\(^#\|^$\)' /etc/ppp/options /etc/ppp/peers/provider
  /etc/ppp/options:asyncmap 0
  /etc/ppp/options:auth
  /etc/ppp/options:crtscts
  /etc/ppp/options:lock
  /etc/ppp/options:modem
  /etc/ppp/options:proxyarp
  /etc/ppp/options:lcp-echo-interval 30
  /etc/ppp/options:lcp-echo-failure 4
  /etc/ppp/options:noipx
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:debug
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:connect /etc/chatscripts/provider-chat
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:defaultroute
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:38400
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:nopersist
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:noauth
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:remotename [EMAIL PROTECTED]:ppp
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:domain Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:netmask 255.255.255.0
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider:/dev/ttyS1

The strange user name is due to the remote to differ the connection
type. The log file reads as follows:

Jun 10 11:08:52 Winona pppd[3365]: Serial connection established.
Jun 10 11:08:53 Winona pppd[3365]: Using interface ppp0
Jun 10 11:08:53 Winona pppd[3365]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Jun 10 11:08:53 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0xddd2 pcomp accomp]
Jun 10 11:08:56 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0xddd2 pcomp accomp]
Jun 10 11:08:56 Winona pppd[3365]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0xb909e819 pcomp accomp auth pap]
Jun 10 11:08:56 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 auth pap]
Jun 10 11:08:56 Winona pppd[3365]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 asyncmap 0x0 
auth chap 05 magic 0xb909e819 pcomp accomp]
Jun 10 11:08:56 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x2 auth chap 05]
Jun 10 11:08:56 Winona pppd[3365]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0xb909e819 pcomp accomp]
Jun 10 11:08:56 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x3 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0xb909e819 pcomp accomp]
Jun 10 11:08:59 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0xddd2 pcomp accomp]
Jun 10 11:08:59 Winona pppd[3365]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0xddd2 pcomp accomp]
Jun 10 11:08:59 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xddd2]
Jun 10 11:08:59 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 
193.96.166.51 compress VJ 0f 01]
Jun 10 11:08:59 Winona pppd[3365]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x4]
Jun 10 11:08:59 Winona pppd[3365]: LCP terminated by peer
Jun 10 11:08:59 Winona pppd[3365]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x4]
Jun 10 11:09:00 Winona pppd[3365]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jun 10 11:09:00 Winona pppd[3365]: Modem hangup
Jun 10 11:09:00 Winona pppd[3365]: Connection terminated.
Jun 10 11:09:01 Winona pppd[3365]: Exit.

Does the auth chap 05 mean that a chap authentification is required?

 Thanks for any hints -- Peter


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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 04:25:30AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 It is probably a simple oversight.
 So simple it should not have been there in the first place.

That's exactly what an oversight is.

 Had you reported it, it could no doubt be fixed easily (Miquel has 
 indicated that he has already fixed some things as necessary).
 
 And as stated, it was not something I was concerned with doing nor was it
 during my time with Debian so what Miquel could do or could not do is
 irrelevant.

So your advice to avoid qpopper is not necessarily relevant to Debian?


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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:50:21 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

So your advice to avoid qpopper is not necessarily relevant to Debian?

It is as relevant to Debian as a message containing advice to avoid
cucipop is.  Or advice to use qpopper is.  Or advice to use cucipop is.  Or
even a message asking whether or not to use qpopper or cucipop is.

None at all.  It is a general Linux question which really isn't specific
to Debian at all.


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Re: 2.0.34

1998-06-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 bash-2.00# ifconfig eth0 203.14.18.1 netmask 255.255.255.128 broadcast 
 203.14.18.127
 SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument
 
 It doesn't work on 2.0.32 either, I just discovered.
 
 
 Thanks to everyone who has replied. Any other ideas?

It's a long shot but what does the rest of what would be your 
/etc/init.d/network say? I only ask because you've played around with 
newer kernels which do things differently in this file.

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Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1

1998-06-10 Thread dpk
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
 
 1.4.x doesn't use .steprc, look in /usr/share for the things that go in
 ~/GNUstep/Library/Afterstep I think.  And good luck configuring that mess. 
 I've given up.

Join the club!  I successfully configured 1.4 to function like my old
.steprc, however I recently upgraded again, which changed the
configuration even more.  Reconfiguring again, the wharf many times
won't show up (sometimes restarting fixes it)... which leads me to
find a new Windows Manager.  I know many others are as frustrated as
I,... what are people switching to?  Any recommendations for a fast,
slick, and easily configurable wm?

Thanks,
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Re: Hamm upgrade to Slink

1998-06-10 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Both hamm and slink are libc6-based so the upgrade should be quite
painless. If a package does not work for you, you always can revert to the
version in hamm easily.

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Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:15:37 -0400 (EDT), dpk wrote:

I,... what are people switching to?  Any recommendations for a fast,
slick, and easily configurable wm?

Why not just stick with the 1.0 series?


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Unidentified subject!

1998-06-10 Thread FRANCK . F . L . LEGALL
Since I have got afterstep ugraded to 1.4, my system go slowler. Do I dream ?
Is it another problem ?

Thanks


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Unidentified subject!

1998-06-10 Thread pedro . i . sanchez
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: ISO 9660 support in Hamm?


 I'm running a clean Hamm installation. Since the default kernel doesn't
have support for the ISO 9660 file system used in CD-ROMs (shouldn't it be
there by default?) I am recompiling the kernel.
 
 However the make config menus never ask if I want  support for this file 
 system or not. I remember this question was there in previous
releases. Any ideas how to get support for this?
 
 Thank you,

Remember to say yes to NLS, then you'll get it.


   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Thank you, it works. I only hope when hamm is finally released support for ISO 
9660 will be already there. I can't think of any reason why we have to 
recompile the kernel just to be able to read CD-ROMs. I don't think this would 
be user friendly!

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adduser and permissions

1998-06-10 Thread Carr, Daryl B.
Hello,
I'm new to this list and to Debian Linux.
When I add a user with 'adduser', there seems to be a permission
problem. This manifests itself in various ways. Two significant ways
are:
  1) calling the 'mail' program I get the response:
 Bad address
  2) calling the 'man' program I get the response
 man: can't create a temporary filename: No such file or
directory

Thanks for any help.
Daryl Carr
Monmouth College
Monmouth, IL 61462
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LyX

1998-06-10 Thread Kenneth . Scharf
I have an old version of LyX on my bo system that I know I loaded off the
official 1.3.1 CD.  I wanted to get the source package for LyX off the hamm
directory on the ftp site but I can't find it.  If fact LyX doesn't seem to
be listed in the packages file for hamm, slink, or even bo!  What happened
to LyX.?  It isn't under editors, or txt..  I can always go to the LyX site
and get the latest source and build it, but I can't believe there isn't a
debian package for LyX.

PS when you tell me where it is on your ftp site, and I find it, I'll know
I went temporally insane.



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Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1

1998-06-10 Thread dpk
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

 On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:15:37 -0400 (EDT), dpk wrote:
 
 I,... what are people switching to?  Any recommendations for a fast,
 slick, and easily configurable wm?
 
 Why not just stick with the 1.0 series?

Probably just me being picky... but 1.0 series is not going to have
maintenance or developement done on it.  I also do not want to revert
to using 'bo' packages, since at some point in time they will be
gone.  Maybe as afterstep reaches a point of configurability/stability
with the new standard I will revert back.   I just don't have much
time for tinkering right now.

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Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:47:22 -0400 (EDT), dpk wrote:

Probably just me being picky... but 1.0 series is not going to have
maintenance or developement done on it.

Last time I read the Afterstep mailing list there were murmers of someone
picking up the 1.0 tree and maintaining it.

I also do not want to revert to using 'bo' packages, since at some point in 
time they will be gone.

Make a package for hamm, then.



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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

: On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:50:21 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
: 
: So your advice to avoid qpopper is not necessarily relevant to Debian?
: 
: It is as relevant to Debian as a message containing advice to avoid
: cucipop is.  Or advice to use qpopper is.  Or advice to use cucipop is.  Or
: even a message asking whether or not to use qpopper or cucipop is.
: 
: None at all.  It is a general Linux question which really isn't specific
: to Debian at all.

Not to hack on you for not reading the thread, but had you done so you
might have noticed that Miquel van Smoorenburg not only maintains
qpopper for Debian, but he also implements bugfixes.  However, many of
those bugfixes do not make it upstream to Qualcomm since they have
chosen to make future versions of qpopper non-free.  (FWIW I support
Mike on this attitude).

This _does_ mean that qpopper vs. cucipop (or any other popper) is
relevant to debian, and is not a general Linux question.  Likewise,
qpopper on BSD is not as applicable as it could be (and I do agree that
on BSD qpopper is a piece of crap)

As you become more familiar with Debian you will notice that quality
isn't just a buzzword around here, it's the way things are done (most of
the time, anyway).  I'm continually impressed by the quality and
usability of Debian packages vs. the same software running on different
distributions or Operating Systems.

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More help, pls Re: simple interface/low-power users

1998-06-10 Thread G. Crimp
On Tue, May 26, 1998 at 08:16:52PM -0700, Darren Benham wrote:
 
 On 27-May-98 G. Crimp wrote:
I thought it would be great if I could set up their accounts so that
  when they logged in a button bar greated them.  They could invoke xpat2,
  logout, shutdown, or call up a graphic mail user agent (maybe xfmail or
  netscape) just by clicking the appropriate button.  Here is where I need
  ideas and guidance.
 If you use X (xdm) and one of the flavors of fvwm*, you can use FvwmButtons to
 give them a button bar on the screen when X starts up.
 
Thanks to all who sent suggestions.  I haven't had much time to work
on this so its a little slow.  The route I have decided to try is as above. 
I am using fvwm2 and xdm, so it is just a question of getting FvwmButtons
going ...

That's why I am writing again.  I've been through man fvwm2, man
FvwmButtons, /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc, /usr/doc/fvwm2/README.sysrc,
etc, etc, and I can't get a button box to come up.  I have created a ~/.fvwm2
directory in which I have two files: init-restart.hook and post.hook. Their
contents follow after which I'll decipher a little.

init-restart.hook:
###
##
##  ~/.fvwm2/init-restart.hook
##
###

##  Load any modules which should be started during fvwm
##  initialization.

#ModulePath /usr/lib/X11/fvwm:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/

##  Make sure FvwmButtons and FvwmPager are always there.
#AddToFunc InitFunction I Module FvwmButtons
#AddToFunc RestartFunction  I Module FvwmButtons
#Module FvwmButtons
#+  I Module /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/FvwmButtons
+   I Exec FvwmButtons
+   I Module FvwmButtons

##  Make it titlebar-less, sticky, and give it an icon
Style FvwmButtons Icon toolbox.xpm, NoTitle, Sticky

##  Alright, let's configure this puppy.
*FvwmButtonsFore White
*FvwmButtonsBack DarkSlateGrey
*FvwmButtonsColumns 1
*FvwmButtonsGeometry -0-0
*FvwmButtonsFont -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-14-* 
*FvwmButtons(Title Shutdown, Back LightRed, Fore Black, Action 'sudo shutdown 
-h now')
*FvwmButtons(Title Solitaire, Fore Black, Action 'xpat2 -geometry 700x450-0+0 
')

#Module FvwmButtons

 end of init-restart.hook 

post.hook:

##  Make it titlebar-less, sticky, and give it an icon
Style FvwmButtons Icon toolbox.xpm, NoTitle, Sticky

##  Alright, let's configure this puppy.
*FvwmButtonsFore White
*FvwmButtonsBack DarkSlateGrey
*FvwmButtonsColumns 1
*FvwmButtonsGeometry -0-0
*FvwmButtonsFont -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-14-*
*FvwmButtons(Title Shutdown, Back LightRed, Fore Black, Action 'sudo shutdown 
-h now')
*FvwmButtons(Title Solitaire, Fore Black, Action 'xpat2 -geometry 700x450-0+0 
')

#Module FvwmButtons

--- end of post.hook -

You can see a bit what I have tried from what is commented out.  My first
attempt was to put everything in init-restart.hook.  I tried a couple of
ways of adding the buttons to the init and restart functions.  I have tried
adding adding Module FvwmButtons on a separate line and in the post.hook
file.  After many fruitless experiments at little variations, I tried
putting the configuration stuff in the post.hook file as well.  

Nothing I have tried has given the slightest hint of success.  All
that starts is the pager and an xterm window.  ANYone know what the heck I
am doing wrong  (ie., how to make this right )   

Thanks a million,

Gerald Crimp


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Re: Help on Debian

1998-06-10 Thread Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Josh Jackson wrote:
 
 Sorry, about that comment on crackers. :)

No need to be sorry!  Alas, the media is really strong...  they can
change the meaning of words -- hey, wasn't this what Hitler did all the
time???


 debian if you would be so kindly to answer.  First off I need a online-order 
 form
 url

There are no orders from Debian directly, since Debian is not a
company, but rather a volunteer organization which packages the
GNU/Linux system and its programs.  There are others who will print the
Debian CDs, and those are listed on http://www.debian.org./vendors.html

You have the option also of burning your own CDs.  The images are on
some of the FTP sites, listed at the above URL.  You can use them, copy
and sell at will.


 and i want to by 2.0 so how long will it b4 I can purchase this on cd?

2.0 will be released when developers get it ready!  No joking, people
there are serious with quality.  It is expected to be until July, but no
one can be absolutely certain.

That said, if you search the mailing lists archives you will probably
find someone who will make a pre-2.0 CD.  Or perhaps some good soul will
have put the CD images on the FTP servers.


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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:15:42 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote:

: None at all.  It is a general Linux question which really isn't 
: specific to Debian at all.

Not to hack on you for not reading the thread, but had you done so you
might have noticed that Miquel van Smoorenburg not only maintains
qpopper for Debian, but he also implements bugfixes.  However, many of
those bugfixes do not make it upstream to Qualcomm since they have
chosen to make future versions of qpopper non-free.  (FWIW I support
Mike on this attitude).

Yes, that was in reply when I mentioned the bug.  My reply was, and this
will be the third time I have said this in this thread, when I found the bug
I was not using Debian so, obviously, I had no desire, inclination or
knowledge of reporting such a bug to the Debian maintainer of the package.  

That is not a hard concept to grasp.

This _does_ mean that qpopper vs. cucipop (or any other popper) is
relevant to debian, and is not a general Linux question.

Untrue in this context.

As you become more familiar with Debian you will notice that quality
isn't just a buzzword around here, it's the way things are done (most of
the time, anyway).  I'm continually impressed by the quality and
usability of Debian packages vs. the same software running on different
distributions or Operating Systems.

Quality is always a buzzword.  Debian is one of the nicer distributions
I've run across, but, as with any distribution there are problems with it. 
Took me less than an hour to get X running under Slack from the tarballs.  I
still can't get X to run under Debian because I'm not quite sure what .debs
to get and using the XF86Config from my working Slack isntall.  I'm finding
that the directions in the non-dev installs are sparse, sometimes not
including the man pages.  And then someone tells me that man is broken yet I
have the latest version.  

There are always problems, so please don't get onto the high horse of
Quality when it comes to Debian, just makes it a better target.



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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

: On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:15:42 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote:
: 
: : None at all.  It is a general Linux question which really isn't 
: : specific to Debian at all.
: 
: Not to hack on you for not reading the thread, but had you done so you
: might have noticed that Miquel van Smoorenburg not only maintains
: qpopper for Debian, but he also implements bugfixes.  However, many of
: those bugfixes do not make it upstream to Qualcomm since they have
: chosen to make future versions of qpopper non-free.  (FWIW I support
: Mike on this attitude).
: 
: Yes, that was in reply when I mentioned the bug.  My reply was, and this
: will be the third time I have said this in this thread, when I found the bug
: I was not using Debian so, obviously, I had no desire, inclination or
: knowledge of reporting such a bug to the Debian maintainer of the package.  
: 
: That is not a hard concept to grasp.

Nope, it's not.  You might notice that I wasn't arguing this point,
either.

: This _does_ mean that qpopper vs. cucipop (or any other popper) is
: relevant to debian, and is not a general Linux question.
: 
: Untrue in this context.

Hmm.  Just because you say so makes it so?  This is a Debian list.  The
person who asked the question uses Debian.  You responded with
complaints about the non-Debian version of qpopper.  As several people
have attempted to point out to you, the Debian qpopper != generic
qpopper available from Qualcomm, sunsite, etc.

I do not feel this is a difficult concept to grasp.

: As you become more familiar with Debian you will notice that quality
: isn't just a buzzword around here, it's the way things are done (most of
: the time, anyway).  I'm continually impressed by the quality and
: usability of Debian packages vs. the same software running on different
: distributions or Operating Systems.
: 
: Quality is always a buzzword.  Debian is one of the nicer distributions
: I've run across, but, as with any distribution there are problems with it. 
: Took me less than an hour to get X running under Slack from the tarballs.  I
: still can't get X to run under Debian because I'm not quite sure what .debs
: to get and using the XF86Config from my working Slack isntall.  I'm finding
: that the directions in the non-dev installs are sparse, sometimes not
: including the man pages.  And then someone tells me that man is broken yet I
: have the latest version.  
: 
: There are always problems, so please don't get onto the high horse of
: Quality when it comes to Debian, just makes it a better target.

I wasn't yet on a high horse though I'm about to go looking for one.
Then again, from reading the thread it has become clear to me that you
aren't very adept at carrying on civil discourse.

Configuring X under Debian 1.3 was fairly easy, I thought.  Sorry to
hear you're having problems.

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Re: procmail woes

1998-06-10 Thread Paul McDermott
hell santiago,
[paul:~]$ mail -v paul
Subject: test procmailrc
test testing tested failed!
Cc: write_log:Received FROM:paul PROGRAM:send-mail SIZE:121
director user matched user paul
transport local uses driver appendfile
  appendfile: write to file /var/spool/mail/paul
write_log:Delivered TO:paul ORIG-TO:paul DIRECTOR:user TRANSPORT:local
write_log:Completed.
You have mail in /var/spool/mail/paul
[paul:~]$

I don't have a mbox - it gives me an error
when i tried cat /var/spool/mail/paul | formail -s procmail it did sort it
but it was trying to resend stuff again my inbox said there was 7500
messages only 3 messages but they repeated to make the 7500.  But it did
sort it to the right mail boxes any ideas?  Thanks for everything.
Paul

On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Santiago Vila wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 I would try
 
 mail -v paul
 
 to see what smail exactly does.
 
 When there is no .procmailrc file, procmail should do the delivery as
 usual (i.e. everything to /var/spool/mail). You can test your .procmailrc
 rules separately by doing something like
 
 cat mbox | formail -s procmail
 
 see the log file for details.
 
 [ BTW: Please fix your e-mail address, the current one bounces... ].
 
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libstdc++ : unresolved ref... 'errno_location'

1998-06-10 Thread Stelios Parnassidis

 I'm boxing myself hard through same progs, written for HP and Solaris,
 many things in C++.

 I have somehow brought it to compile error-free, but then on 
 calling the executables i get this unresolved 'errno_location'.

 Allthough i see it in a errnos.h file, and realize it might have
 to do with threads, i cannot find out how it makes it in the
 compiled libraries - the ones i generate - why and where ...

 Please if it's a known problem don't blame, i need help ..

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FW: adduser and permissions

1998-06-10 Thread Carr, Daryl B.
I've found the solution to my problem. The owner.group permissions on
the /tmp directory were wrong.  I've set this to rwxrwxrwt root.root.  I
looked at a RedHat Linux system and copied the attributes.

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 From: Carr, Daryl B.[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 8:23 AM
 To:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
 Subject:  adduser and permissions
 
 Hello,
 I'm new to this list and to Debian Linux.
 When I add a user with 'adduser', there seems to be a permission
 problem. This manifests itself in various ways. Two significant ways
 are:
   1) calling the 'mail' program I get the response:
  Bad address
   2) calling the 'man' program I get the response
  man: can't create a temporary filename: No such file or
 directory
 
 Thanks for any help.
 Daryl Carr
 Monmouth College
 Monmouth, IL 61462
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Trying again

1998-06-10 Thread Matthew Myers
Having trouble sending to this list with NS Mail, testing again.



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Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1

1998-06-10 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 05:19:45AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 I,... what are people switching to?  Any recommendations for a fast,
 slick, and easily configurable wm?
 
 Why not just stick with the 1.0 series?

Upstream bugs, no libc6 version, the package was upgraded kinda by accident
(was on hold for a REASON...)  But that's just my case.


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Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Igor S. Livshits
At 3:51 AM -0500 on 6/10/98, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
It is probably a simple oversight. Had you reported it, it could no doubt
be fixed easily (Miquel has indicated that he has already fixed some things
as necessary). I don't think a simple bug such as this is sufficient
to comment on the quality of the entire program.

Don't bet on it -- reporting bugs to Qualcomm about qpopper is about in par
to pitching pennies into a well. Eventually, you yourself have to climb
down to gather them -- Qualcomm has yet to comment on any of my reports nor
fix the problems I reported.

Cheers, igor



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NS Mail is kinda screwy.

1998-06-10 Thread Matthew Myers
I sent this letter using Netscape Mail under a standard user account. 
If I try to send from Netscape Mail to this server as root, it never
makes it.  Does anyone know why?



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Re: NS Mail is kinda screwy.

1998-06-10 Thread Nathan C. Burnett
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Matthew Myers wrote:

 I sent this letter using Netscape Mail under a standard user account. 
 If I try to send from Netscape Mail to this server as root, it never
 makes it.  Does anyone know why?
 

The server might be rejecting it because it's from root.  Sending mail as
root is generally considered to be pretty tacky.  I'll bet mail from root
won't be accepted on the particular server regardless of what mailer you
use.

Nate

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RE: Hamm upgrade to Slink

1998-06-10 Thread timothy
Thus far I have simply installed any slink packages that were not available for
my hamm system (tya, karpski, xteddy, libc6-dev etc), and everything has worked
fine.
Does anyone know otherwise?

Timothy

On 10-Jun-98 Randy Edwards wrote:
 Now that hamm has been frozen I'm starting to miss the routine of
 playing with new packages on my home system. :-)  So I was playing
 with the idea of upgrading to slink and running that.
 
 Unlike the upgrade from bo to hamm, I can find no docs/readme's on a
 hamm to slink upgrade.  Can someone who is running slink fill me in on
 a couple of things?
 
 First, how buggy is slink?  I'll be upgrading a home system so it's
 not like it's a critical box, but I'm not the most experienced Linuxer
 and was curious about this.  Secondly, what's involved with the exact
 hamm to slink upgrade?  Is there any dramatic library upgrades?  Is it
 just a matter of dpkg'ing the new slink packages?
 
 Any and all info/advice would be greatly appreciated; thanks in
 advance.

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Re: procmail woes

1998-06-10 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Paul McDermott wrote:

 hell santiago,
 [paul:~]$ mail -v paul
 Subject: test procmailrc
 test testing tested failed!
 Cc: write_log:Received FROM:paul PROGRAM:send-mail SIZE:121
 director user matched user paul
 transport local uses driver appendfile
   appendfile: write to file /var/spool/mail/paul
 write_log:Delivered TO:paul ORIG-TO:paul DIRECTOR:user TRANSPORT:local
 write_log:Completed.
 You have mail in /var/spool/mail/paul
 [paul:~]$

Ok, I have just checked and it seems that a line like this one:

|/usr/bin/procmail

is enough for the ~/.forward file when using smail.
Probably this is all you need at this point.
 
 I don't have a mbox - it gives me an error

Well, the   cat mbox | formail -s procmail   trick was just a
way of speaking! You have to replace mbox with the name of the file 
you want to refilter.

 when i tried cat /var/spool/mail/paul | formail -s procmail it did sort it
 but it was trying to resend stuff again my inbox said there was 7500
 messages only 3 messages but they repeated to make the 7500.

So you learned the hard way it is a bad idea to refilter your inbox in
place. I'm sorry, perhaps I should have been more clear.
Remember not to refilter your /var/spool/mail/paul file
in this way. Next time you can do:

* cp /var/spool/mail/paul ~/tobefilteredagain

* remove /var/spool/mail/paul either by using your favourite mail
reader or with the help of the user root.

* cat ~/tobefilteredagain | formail -s procmail

 But it did sort it to the right mail boxes any ideas?

Then the .procmailrc file is ok and the ~/.forward file is probably the
last step. Good luck.

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aic6260, cdrom linux

1998-06-10 Thread Chea Prince
hi ralph

did you ever get linux to see your cdrom?  i have an onboard aic 6260
scsi chip on an old zeos
gosling motherboard that linux refuses to recognize.  the bios can be
set to autodetect scsi and i'ved tried bios SCSI ENABLED--no suucess
with sutoprobe.  disabled bios and forced detection using
append=aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,0  append=aic6260=0x340,11,7,1,0.  no
joy.  win95 has no problem
accessing the drive with SCSI ENABLED via bios.  seems to be a linux
thing.  trying desperately
to dump microsoft but snags like this are slowing me down.

any ideas?  anybody?  btw, cdrom is a NEC.

best--chea


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Re: LyX

1998-06-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
Look in contrib/text

On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have an old version of LyX on my bo system that I know I loaded off the
 official 1.3.1 CD.  I wanted to get the source package for LyX off the hamm
 directory on the ftp site but I can't find it.  If fact LyX doesn't seem to
 be listed in the packages file for hamm, slink, or even bo!  What happened
 to LyX.?  It isn't under editors, or txt..  I can always go to the LyX site
 and get the latest source and build it, but I can't believe there isn't a
 debian package for LyX.
 
 PS when you tell me where it is on your ftp site, and I find it, I'll know
 I went temporally insane.
 
 
 
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CD-rom and ZIP

1998-06-10 Thread Marc van der Vossen
Hi,

A big thanks to all who have responded to my questions. I can now mount
every thing I want. Is there an automatic mounter ? If I would like to mount
three things, what should they be called? I know /mnt, but that is only one
out of three. These are the things to be mounted:
hda5: misc
hdc4. Zip
hdd4: Cd-rom

Thanks

Marc
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Re: CD-rom and ZIP

1998-06-10 Thread Paul McDermott
hello, you can mount multiple devices by making directories in / ie mnt2
and mnt3 or what ever you want then mount them normally.  I hope this
answers your question.
Paul



On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Marc van der Vossen wrote:

 Hi,
 
 A big thanks to all who have responded to my questions. I can now mount
 every thing I want. Is there an automatic mounter ? If I would like to mount
 three things, what should they be called? I know /mnt, but that is only one
 out of three. These are the things to be mounted:
 hda5: misc
 hdc4. Zip
 hdd4: Cd-rom
 
 Thanks
 
 Marc
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Re: CD-rom and ZIP

1998-06-10 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Marc van der Vossen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 A big thanks to all who have responded to my questions. I can now mount
 every thing I want. Is there an automatic mounter ? If I would like to mount

put entries in /etc/fstab

 three things, what should they be called? I know /mnt, but that is only one
 out of three. These are the things to be mounted:
 hda5: misc
 hdc4. Zip
 hdd4: Cd-rom

I would use /mnt/misc, /mnt/zip, /mnt/cdrom with fstab entries:

/dev/whatever /mnt/misc   ext2defaults0   2
/dev/hdc4   /mnt/zipvfatnoauto,user 0   0
/dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,user,ro  0   0

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Re: HAMM ftp proxy install / Hamm Installing / blah

1998-06-10 Thread Kenneth Johansson
The Darkling wrote:lots of good stuff deleted

 choose FTP

 ftp.debian.org
 (passive or not.. I don't go through a firewall so I use non-passive and
 no proxie)

well here we have the problem Iam behind a firewall and that was my
original question. I have installed debian five times over ppp and ftp but
never thru a firewall. And I did not get it to work. I have a ftp accunt
that I can use to get outside and I have checked that it worked. In my
previous message I described every step I need to do to get it to work. The
problem is that I dont know perl and cant find where the script fucks up. I
need some help from a perl hacker.



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Re: LyX

1998-06-10 Thread Raul Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PS when you tell me where it is on your ftp site, and I find it, I'll know
 I went temporally insane.

I haven't checked the ftp site, but my copy of lyx is marked as coming
from contrib/text.  I expect that the copyright doesn't let us 
distribute it properly.

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Re: pppd-2.3.5 pap authentification does not work

1998-06-10 Thread Stefan Frank
 Does the auth chap 05 mean that a chap authentification is required?

not necesserily, first the system asks for authentication using pap, but
as your system denies, the remote system offers chap auth. 

I had the same symptom after upgrading to hamm. I solved it by putting
my username in double quotes   or ´´ in /etc/ppp/provider and in the
pap-secrets file. This might help here too, because of the : in the
user name.

bye Stefan


 
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Re: pppd-2.3.5 pap authentification does not work

1998-06-10 Thread Paul Miller

I had this problem.  I fixed it by downloading the source for ppp-pam and
copying the ppp.pam file to /etc/pam.d/ppp ... here is what that file
contains (notice the libraries are different from Debian's ppp file):

---
#%PAM-1.0
# Information for the PPPD process with the 'login' option.
authrequired/usr/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
authrequired/usr/lib/security/pam_nologin.so
account required/usr/lib/security/pam_permit.so
session required/usr/lib/security/pam_permit.so
---

I already reported this problem as a bug.

-Paul

On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Stefan Frank wrote:

  Does the auth chap 05 mean that a chap authentification is required?
 
 not necesserily, first the system asks for authentication using pap, but
 as your system denies, the remote system offers chap auth. 
 
 I had the same symptom after upgrading to hamm. I solved it by putting
 my username in double quotes   or ´´ in /etc/ppp/provider and in the
 pap-secrets file. This might help here too, because of the : in the
 user name.
 
 bye Stefan
 
 
  
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xserver and Matrox Mistique

1998-06-10 Thread Michael Roark
I have just finished an install (1.3.1) on a machine with a Matrox
Mistique. I followed the README on the cd (install the base, then the
server in seperate sessions), but when I startx the screen goes blank,
apparently after trying to contact the server. This is using the svga
server. Is there a better one to try? I haven't had any luck finding the
error output either. If I find that I will pass it along as well.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Michael


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Apache

1998-06-10 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello,

I have just installed Apache Web Server and keep getting the same 
message
I try to start the server. What do I need to do get the server working.
Here is the error.log


[Wed Jun 10 13:59:35 1998] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(debian)
[Wed Jun 10 14:08:11 1998] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(debian)
[Wed Jun 10 14:08:31 1998] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(debian)
[Wed Jun 10 14:09:44 1998] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(debian)
[Wed Jun 10 14:10:40 1998] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(debian)
[Wed Jun 10 14:17:51 1998] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(debian)
[Wed Jun 10 14:30:12 1998] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(debian)

I checked my hostname file and it has this entry: debian. What am I
supposed to put there? Any help with this from someone running Apache would
be greatly appreciated.



Mike Acklin
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Installing network

1998-06-10 Thread Brian Morgan
I'm having trouble beginning setting up my debian system with an ne2000
card.  During install, the card installed correctly, with correct i/o
address and interrupt.  I also entered all of the ip / host / domain
info. correctly.

Everytime I start up, though, I get the messages:
SCOCADDRT:  No such Device
SCOCADDRT:  Network is unreachable
and a few other errors that start with SCO.

Are there any other setup procedure that I need to follow to get my card
working correctly so I can ftp, etc.?

Thanks,

Brian Morgan
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3 questions

1998-06-10 Thread Dennis Dai
1. What's the difference between hamm (frozen) and slink?

2. Where is the xload package in hamm (frozen)? Several weeks before I
could find it but when I selected, it gave me some kind of dependency
error. And I can't even find it in my newly updated package list (in
dselect).

3. I've read discussions about Stampede Linux on Slashdot the other day,
and somebody metioned about apt in debian. I can't find it in hamm
(frozen) which is within my expectation. I know it won't be out until
2.1, but since somebody already used it, so I think it must be
somewhere...

TIA

Dennis


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Re: xserver and Matrox Mistique

1998-06-10 Thread Shaleh
I have a Mystique 220 4mb card.  I have no problems w/ XFree86_SVGA. 
Both bo and hamm/slink.  This is probably a misconfigured monitor
settings problem.

Michael Roark wrote:
 
 I have just finished an install (1.3.1) on a machine with a Matrox
 Mistique. I followed the README on the cd (install the base, then the
 server in seperate sessions), but when I startx the screen goes blank,
 apparently after trying to contact the server. This is using the svga
 server. Is there a better one to try? I haven't had any luck finding the
 error output either. If I find that I will pass it along as well.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Michael
 
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telnetting to a host behind ip_masq

1998-06-10 Thread Paul Miller

Is it possible to telnet directly to a host behind ip_masq? -- Something
like connecting to a different hostname at the same ip, and acting as a
different computer. -- Apache does this with virtual hosting.

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Re: 3 questions

1998-06-10 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Dennis Dai wrote:

 1. What's the difference between hamm (frozen) and slink?

Slink will eventually become Debian 2.1.  It contains those packages which
either aren't ready for prime time yet, or which contain additional
features past the freeze date of Debian 2.0.

 2. Where is the xload package in hamm (frozen)? Several weeks before I
 could find it but when I selected, it gave me some kind of dependency
 error. And I can't even find it in my newly updated package list (in
 dselect).

xload is now included in the xcontrib package (moved out of xproc).

 3. I've read discussions about Stampede Linux on Slashdot the other day,
 and somebody metioned about apt in debian. I can't find it in hamm
 (frozen) which is within my expectation. I know it won't be out until
 2.1, but since somebody already used it, so I think it must be
 somewhere...

Apt is Debian's next-generation frontend to dpkg.  While the GUI version
of it isn't yet working, the command-line interface and the dselect method
are both reasonably polished.  Many people feel that using apt as a method
for dselect is far superior to the other options.  You should be able to
find the latest apt package compiled for hamm in the project/experimental
directory of your favorite mirror.  A version compiled for libc5 (bo)
should be available at http://www.debian.org/~jgg/

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[NC013@aol.com: New User]

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I just downloaded and installed Debian on a computer for the first time.  I
think the free software thing is a great concept, and I like the fact that
there is a legitimate alternative to the Microsoft ruled world of pc operating
systems.  

I have only one slight problem.  I don't have a clue how to use Linux.  I'd
greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to learn the interface, as well as
what software I ought to have on my system and how to get and install it.

I checked the Debian site's FAQs and howtos, but didn't find them very
helpful.  Anything you can tell me wuld be extremely helpful.

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Re: [NC013@aol.com: New User]

1998-06-10 Thread Brian Morgan
Try the following FULL TEXT versions of linux books online at:

http://www.developer.com/reference/r_linux.html

I'm a beginning Linux user as well, and would also appreciate any beginner's 
advice
from others.

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 I just downloaded and installed Debian on a computer for the first time.  I
 think the free software thing is a great concept, and I like the fact that
 there is a legitimate alternative to the Microsoft ruled world of pc operating
 systems.

 I have only one slight problem.  I don't have a clue how to use Linux.  I'd
 greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to learn the interface, as well as
 what software I ought to have on my system and how to get and install it.

 I checked the Debian site's FAQs and howtos, but didn't find them very
 helpful.  Anything you can tell me wuld be extremely helpful.

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Re: [NC013@aol.com: New User]

1998-06-10 Thread Michael B. Taylor
Check out the Linux Documentation Project at:
http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/

There are many other mirrors of this site, you may wish to check the
'mirrors' section on the site to find one nearer to you.

In particular, check out the on-line book Installation and Getting
Started Guide

If you want dead-tree books, you cant go wrong with O'Reilly
(www.ora.com)

Mike  



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 I have only one slight problem.  I don't have a clue how to use Linux.  I'd
 greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to learn the interface, as well as
 what software I ought to have on my system and how to get and install it.
 
 I checked the Debian site's FAQs and howtos, but didn't find them very
 helpful.  Anything you can tell me wuld be extremely helpful.



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Re: telnetting to a host behind ip_masq

1998-06-10 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Stuart Krivis wrote:

 On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
 
  
  Is it possible to telnet directly to a host behind ip_masq? -- Something
  like connecting to a different hostname at the same ip, and acting as a
  different computer. -- Apache does this with virtual hosting.
 
 Unless I completely misunderstand ipmasq and NAT, no you cannot do this.
 
 routed sees an outgoing connection on port whatever and sees what MAC
 address or fake internal IP it's coming from. Then an incoming
 connection to the same port is obviously for that same internal machine.
 And you can setup various rules.
 
 I suppose you could setup a rule to direct all incoming telnet sessions to
 a particular internal host. Or all incoming telnet sessions from a
 particular IP address or block...
 
 But there is no way to directly telnet in. The outside world sees your
 network as having one (1) IP address. Any addresses used internally cannot
 be seen by the outside world.


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Re: [NC013@aol.com: New User]

1998-06-10 Thread Gutraind
Hi!
I've installed Debian 1.3 (bo) couple of month ago motivated by the same ideas 
you
have.
I hope I'll at some way helpful along more exerienced users' question to your 
answer.

Linux indeed seems to be vert customizable, and the commands usually have long
switches for even the basic functions (but you can simplify it by alias s)
basic opperation function:
dir -as in dos. also use ls or ls -l to display more details.
eveything starts at a directory '/' and no drives like 'c:' or 'd:'
to access another drive like your dos partition you might have to use
mount -t msdos /dev/[hard drive probably hda1] /dos
/dev/ contains all the hardware of your pc.
cd /blah/blah/blah is your way through the directrories... (not ' \ '!)
cp -copy
mv -move/rename
man [anything] access to the manpages that offer extensive help. (need to 
install
manpages
dselect is the packege manger,  from which you can install all the system 
parts.. to
make it bigger.
AND most important ask your questions here!

Sasha.



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 think the free software thing is a great concept, and I like the fact that
 there is a legitimate alternative to the Microsoft ruled world of pc operating
 systems.

 I have only one slight problem.  I don't have a clue how to use Linux.  I'd
 greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to learn the interface, as well as
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Re: Weird problem: normal user can't run bash in login

1998-06-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
Lorens Kockum wrote:
 
 In debian-user Ed wrote:
 
No.  Remember, the login process has already started, the user ('ed') 
  has
 already gotten a tty,  the system has printed to it (for example to tell him
 he has no mail), only when it tries to exec the default shell does the error
 occur.  I can't see how tty access could cause this.
 
 
 As always, take the error message. In 99% of case the error
 message accurately reflects the problem.
 
 The error message is cannot execute /bin/bash.
 
 You said you checked the permissions on /bin and on /bin/bash.
 
 Did you also check the permissions on / ? That often happens
 on newly-installed systems; it's caused by inconsiderate
 decompression of inconsiderate tarfiles in /tmp.  On all dynamic
 libraries linked to bash and their parent directories ? While
 you're at it (should not be this), also check /tmp and ~ed.
 
 If it was somewhere else than in /bin. I'd also say to check
 noexec mount option to the filesystem, but I think you'd have
 had problems before that :-)
 
 If this fails, try su-ing to ed, maybe that will bring up
 additional data.
 

I tried the things you mentioned.  su'ing to ed resulted in identical 
error
message (Permission denied), but no additional error messages.  I mounted
root under other dir but nothing wrong with permissions.  I finally solved
the problem with the brute force method:  a clean reinstall with deb 2.0.  I
copied all important stuff to other partition, so reinstall wasn't to
painful.  Still, I wish I knew enough to figure out that problem.


Thanks for your help anyway.
 

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RE: 3 questions

1998-06-10 Thread Dennis Dai
Thanks a lot Scott. Now it's much clearer.

Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Ellis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 1:36 PM
 To:   Dennis Dai
 Cc:   Debian User list
 Subject:  Re: 3 questions
 
 On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Dennis Dai wrote:
 
  1. What's the difference between hamm (frozen) and slink?
 
 Slink will eventually become Debian 2.1.  It contains those packages
 which
 either aren't ready for prime time yet, or which contain additional
 features past the freeze date of Debian 2.0.
 
  2. Where is the xload package in hamm (frozen)? Several weeks before
 I
  could find it but when I selected, it gave me some kind of
 dependency
  error. And I can't even find it in my newly updated package list (in
  dselect).
 
 xload is now included in the xcontrib package (moved out of xproc).
 
  3. I've read discussions about Stampede Linux on Slashdot the other
 day,
  and somebody metioned about apt in debian. I can't find it in hamm
  (frozen) which is within my expectation. I know it won't be out
 until
  2.1, but since somebody already used it, so I think it must be
  somewhere...
 
 Apt is Debian's next-generation frontend to dpkg.  While the GUI
 version
 of it isn't yet working, the command-line interface and the dselect
 method
 are both reasonably polished.  Many people feel that using apt as a
 method
 for dselect is far superior to the other options.  You should be able
 to
 find the latest apt package compiled for hamm in the
 project/experimental
 directory of your favorite mirror.  A version compiled for libc5 (bo)
 should be available at http://www.debian.org/~jgg/
 
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[Hamm Install] Dselect/ftp, what is this error message ?

1998-06-10 Thread Francois Gouget

I'm installing a new Debian 2.0 on my PC using the ftp method to 
download it from ftp.mi.us.debian.org. During the download I got the 
following error message:

 getting: 
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl_5.004.04-6.deb 
(3125884)
 FTP ERROR

 Do you want to retry downloading at once [y]:
 continue file: 
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl_5.004.04-6.deb (at 
1484820) [y]:
[...]
 getting: 
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl_5.004.04-6.deb 
(1641064/3125884)

As I understand it the first line tells me that I only got 1484820 
bytes out of the 3125884. So why does the download restarts at byte 
1641064 as the second line seems to indicate ?

Then it failed again and I had:
 FTP ERROR

 Do you want to retry downloading at once [y]:
 continue file: 
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl_5.004.04-6.deb (at 
2242560) [y]:
[...]
 getting: 
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/interpreters/perl_5.004.04-6.deb 
(883324/3125884)
Did it restart from scratch ?

I finally managed to download the entire file but it is only 262680 
bytes long. So what are the numbers displayed above ?
Does the ftp method support reget ?

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Re: [NC013@aol.com: New User]

1998-06-10 Thread servis
 
 I just downloaded and installed Debian on a computer for the first time.  I
 think the free software thing is a great concept, and I like the fact that
 there is a legitimate alternative to the Microsoft ruled world of pc operating
 systems.  
 
 I have only one slight problem.  I don't have a clue how to use Linux.  I'd
 greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to learn the interface, as well as
 what software I ought to have on my system and how to get and install it.
 
 I checked the Debian site's FAQs and howtos, but didn't find them very
 helpful.  Anything you can tell me wuld be extremely helpful.
 
 John
 

Go to www.cheapbytes.com and order Dale Sheetz's(one of the Debian
developers) book 'Debian User's Guide'.  The book normally comes with
3-CD's of Debian but Cheapbytes is value adding 4 more cd's to the
package, for a total of 7 CD's .  The total is only $34.  You might
also want a look at many of their other books at great prices.

Enjoy,

Brian 
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Re: Installing network

1998-06-10 Thread Greg Norris
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 02:53:38PM -0400, Brian Morgan wrote:
 I'm having trouble beginning setting up my debian system with an ne2000
 card.  During install, the card installed correctly, with correct i/o
 address and interrupt.  I also entered all of the ip / host / domain
 info. correctly.
 
 Everytime I start up, though, I get the messages:
 SCOCADDRT:  No such Device
 SCOCADDRT:  Network is unreachable
 and a few other errors that start with SCO.

This may be a bit of a long shot, but I was getting those same messages
when I had my NIC support compiled as a module, but didn't have a
corresponding entry in /etc/modules.


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support for NEC SuperScript 660plus?

1998-06-10 Thread Kiyan Azarbar
My dad returend the HP LaserJet 3100 multifunction devices, and got a
NEC SuperScript 660plus. 

Of course everything will be fine and dandy in Windows, but I
never boot into Windows anymore, nor do I want to. We have a little 3-node LAN
set up here on coax with ancient SMC 8013 cards that works for us so far. My
dad used to have a Canon BJC-4000, and I used to print to it using the bjc-600
magicfilter filter (slightly tweaked to 600 dpi, I think).

My main fear is that this is a part of that appalling new trend to manufacture
hardware that is incompatible with anything but Windows because the company
only releases industry non-standard Win95 drivers for it, and won't release
specs. Worse, it could be one of those printers that require CPUsage on the
Window$ client machine. Can anyone tell me if this is true?

If not, I was wondering... does anyone know what filter this new 
device is best suited
for? Should I use the ghostscript laserjet driver, ljetplus, ljet3, 4, or
what?

Thanks for your help.

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Unidentified subject!

1998-06-10 Thread forest
I've installed Debian 1.3 but can't run many commands, including man. Why?


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Re: aic6260, cdrom linux

1998-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 12:59:28PM -0400, Chea Prince wrote:
 did you ever get linux to see your cdrom?  i have an onboard aic 6260
 scsi chip on an old zeos
 gosling motherboard that linux refuses to recognize.  the bios can be
 set to autodetect scsi and i'ved tried bios SCSI ENABLED--no suucess
 with sutoprobe.  disabled bios and forced detection using
 append=aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,0  append=aic6260=0x340,11,7,1,0.  no
 joy.  win95 has no problem
 accessing the drive with SCSI ENABLED via bios.  seems to be a linux
 thing.  trying desperately
 to dump microsoft but snags like this are slowing me down.
 
 any ideas?  anybody?  btw, cdrom is a NEC.

Hmmm, I think this is the same as card I have (VLB, with floppy, IDE,
parallel/serial  SCSI all on board). To get it running with Linux,
I used

aha152x=0x340,11,7,0,0

I think the 1-0 disables disconnect or similar. I used an NEC CD-ROM
drive too and it worked.


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