Problema con apt-get

1998-07-31 Thread Traque
Siguiendo vuestras indicaciones, estoy utilizando para
actualizarme desde 1.3.1 a 2.0 la utilidad apt-get que me
he bajado de /debian/project/experimental.

La instalación de los paquetes con apt-get la estoy
efectuando via FTP.
El comando apt-get update me ha funcionado bien.
Sin embargo estoy teniendo problemas con
apte-get -f dist-upgrade :

. el primer día que lo utilicé me bajó un montón de
  paquetes sin ningun problema
. probé a cancelar y volver a ejecutar el comando
  para ver si funcionaba el reenganche, y funcionó
  perfectamente
. al día siguiente, al intentar reanudar la transmisión
  de paquetes por el ddd, no deja de darme el siguiente
  error:

0%  [Forking]
0%  [ddd 23360/2009k 1%]
0%  [ddd `Connecting to slug.ctv.es' 23360/2009k 1%]
0%  [ddd `Connecting to slug.ctv.es' 23360/2009k 1%]
0%  [ddd `Logging in' 23360/2009k 1%]3594b/s 7h49m17s
0%  [ddd `Logging in' 23360/2009k 1%]

1%  [Err:ddd 0/2009k 0%]
1%  [Err:ddd 0/2009k 0%]   324k/s 5m5s
1%  [Err:ddd 0/2009k 0%]

y ahí se me queda clavado durante bastante tiempo, sin
hacer nada aparentemente;
si le dejo mucho tiempo, empieza a saltarse paquetes
dando el mismo error en todos ellos y cancelando al
final.

Por favor, podría alguien ayudarme para que pueda
continuar, porque no creo que sea porque tengo que
hacerlo todo de golpe en el mismo día, no ?.

Por último, no creo que tenga que ver pero os comento
que al instalar apt con dpkg -i àpt*, me dió el error
can't open /usr/lib/libpthread.so
aunque, aparentemente, se instaló bien.

Gracias por la ayuda y un saludo.


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Re: debian 2.0...donde?

1998-07-31 Thread crontab
 Una sugerencia para la revista cuando salga en Septiembre es
 que publiquen en este medio si a nadie le parece mal un lugar
 donde pueda obtenerse sin problemas porque no suelen tenerla
 en todos los quioscos.


aqui en madrid, yo la veo en bastantes quioscospero donde siempre
hay **muchas unidades** es en el Corte Ingles (en los quioskos sule
haber pocas unidadesya sabeis)

saludos


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Re: debian 2.0...donde?

1998-07-31 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a


On Thu, Jul 30, 1998 at 01:28:17PM +0200, Antonio Castro wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lu=EDs_Arocha_Hern=E1ndez?= wrote:
 
  Me sumo a la sugerencia de incluir los fuentes.
  Personalmente  no me importa pagar un poco más por la revista para disponer
  de un Debian completo.
 
 Hombre a mi tampoco pero no es esa la cuestión porque no creo que un
 CD más represente tanto dinero. 
(...)

Supongo que no es tan caro, no lo se, yo no llevo la edicion solo soy 
un colaborador
en la revista. De todas formas que sepais que como mucho llevara 3 CD's, el CD 
de la
revista y 2 CDs de Debian=main+ fuentes. Non-free y contrib son dificiles de 
meter
en un CD porque hay que ir paquete por paquete a ver si se puede o no 
distribuir (si la
licencia lo permite), aunque ya se que en contrib puede que haya paquetes 
interesantes con
licencia GPL pero que dependan de algo non-free.


  Por cierto, ¿que hay de Linux Actual de este mes?
 
 Sale cada dos meses. Esperamos que en Septiembre lo hagan bien y
 no nos dejen con la miel en los labios. La nueva versión de Debian
 son tres CD's y no dos.

Respecto a lo de los CD's ya SE que son 3 CD's solo os digo que veo 
dificil que una
revista salga con 4 CD's (amen de los problemas con non-free... que ya os he 
comentado). En
debian-devel se estuvo discutiendo el hacer un directorio dist-cd, o algo asi, 
para aquello
que estuviera fuera de main pero se pudiera dar en un cd...

  
 Con todo lo comentado aquí deberían comprender que el número de
 ejemplares que van a vender variará bastante creo yo si solo 
 ponen dos a si ponen tres sin meter la pata en nada porque ese
 tipo de noticias vuelan.

Si, estoy de acuerdo contigo, pero eso no creo que lo vea la editorial 
asi.

 
 Una sugerencia para la revista cuando salga en Septiembre es
 que publiquen en este medio si a nadie le parece mal un lugar 
 donde pueda obtenerse sin problemas porque no suelen tenerla 
 en todos los quioscos.

Eso no creo que debiera aparecer en la revista, aunque comentare en la 
editorial ese
problema de distribucion... de hecho no se cuantos ejemplares se 
editan/distribuyen. Aunque si
se que me han llegado e-mails desde Argentina con referencia a la revista!

 
  Saludos. Luís
  


Saludete

Javi


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Re: debian 2.0...donde?

1998-07-31 Thread Raúl Hernández Alvarez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
  Una sugerencia para la revista cuando salga en Septiembre es
  que publiquen en este medio si a nadie le parece mal un lugar
  donde pueda obtenerse sin problemas porque no suelen tenerla
  en todos los quioscos.
 
 aqui en madrid, yo la veo en bastantes quioscospero donde siempre
 hay **muchas unidades** es en el Corte Ingles (en los quioskos sule
 haber pocas unidadesya sabeis)


¿Estáis queriendo decir que ya ha salido el número tres? Yo no la he
encontrado en ningún quiosco de mi barrio.

Un saludo. Raúl


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Re: debian 2.0...donde?

1998-07-31 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:59:42PM +, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
   Supongo que no es tan caro, no lo se, yo no llevo la edicion solo
 soy un colaborador en la revista. De todas formas que sepais que como
 mucho llevara 3 CD's, el CD de la revista y 2 CDs de Debian=main+
 fuentes. Non-free y contrib son dificiles de meter en un CD porque hay
 que ir paquete por paquete a ver si se puede o no distribuir (si la
 licencia lo permite), aunque ya se que en contrib puede que haya
 paquetes interesantes con licencia GPL pero que dependan de algo
 non-free.

_Todos_ los paquetes de contrib deben cumplir la DFSG, así que no tienes
que precuparte por sus licencias. Los paquetes problemáticos son los de
non-free.

Las fuentes de main completas no caben en un solo CD.

Por eso el tercer CD oficial de Debian es contrib + fuentes de x11.
(Los otros dos CDs oficiales para i386 son main y fuentes-sin-x11).
Y por supuesto se pueden distribuir sin ningún tipo de restricciones.
 
   Respecto a lo de los CD's ya SE que son 3 CD's solo os digo que
 veo dificil que una revista salga con 4 CD's (amen de los problemas con
 non-free... que ya os he comentado). 

Y que son totalmente irrelevantes porque non-free no va en ninguno de los
3 CDs.

 En debian-devel se estuvo
 discutiendo el hacer un directorio dist-cd, o algo asi, para aquello
 que estuviera fuera de main pero se pudiera dar en un cd...

No. Era para aquello que estuviera en non-free (recordatorio para todos:
existe main, contrib, non-free y non-US) y se pudiera dar en un cd.
No hay problemas con contrib.

Además es una idea que no tiene mucho interés dentro de Debian. Nosotros
no podemos ponernos a ejercer de abogados para decidir qué es lo que cada
distribuidor puede meter o no. Sólo cuando las licencias son totalmente
claras, lo cual es poco común, y normalmente sólo pasa cuando la licencia
es una de las típicas DFSG.

Saludos,
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Re: Using two mice under X at once.

1998-07-31 Thread Christopher Barry
Thank you very much. I got both of them running alongside each other
perfectly now. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 *- Christopher Barry wrote about Using two mice under X at once.
 | Hi all,
 |
 | I just today bought a really nifty keyboard with a built-in touchpad and
 | the touchpad part of it uses a serial interface, while my existing mouse
 | is PS/2. I can switch between them by killing X and quickly editing
 | XF86Config and then restarting X, but I'm wondering if there is way to
 | get X to support 2 pointing devices at once. The keyboard comes with a
 | serial pass-through mouse connector so if you already have a serial
 | mouse you can plug it into the keyboard instead of your motherboard so
 | you can at least flip a switch on the keyboard to switch between
 | touchpad and regular mouse modes. But this doesn't work for me because
 | my mouse is PS/2. So is there a way to run two pointing devices
 | simultaneously under X?
 |
 
 I have the same situation.  You need to use the XInput section of
 XF86Config.  Read the XF86Config man page.
 
 These are snippets from my XF86Config file.
 
 # Logitech Mouseman+ with 4 buttons and a wheel
 Section Pointer
ProtocolMouseManPlusPS/2
Device  /dev/psaux
SampleRate  133
Resolution  200
Buttons 6
ZAxisMapping5 6
 EndSection
 
 # keyboard with eraser pointer and two buttons(1,3)
 Section XInput
 SubSection Mouse
 Port /dev/ttyS0
 DeviceName Pointer
 Protocol Microsoft
 AlwaysCore
 EndSubSection
 EndSection
 
 | Also, one other question. How would you add 'xset m 5 0' to your
 | XF86Config file? Is there a general list or howto of how to figure out
 | which xset statements correspond with which XF86Config statements? For
 | example, 'xset fp+ ...' is like a 'FontPath' statement but I don't know
 | where to look to find these relationships. As usual, the man page and
 | /usr/doc isn't too helpful.
 |
 
 Just put the xset command in your .xinitrc, .xsession, or whatever file
 you use to start all your X apps.  I don't think there is a direct
 mapping between all the options of xset and things in XF86Config.
 
 Have fun.
 
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Re: Which debian?

1998-07-31 Thread Adam Keys
Stephen E. Collins wrote:
 
 I have given up trying to get PHP3 running as a module in Apache 1.3.1
 with sybase-ct support on my RedHat 5.1 machine.  Apache gives me a
 segmentation fault upon startup.  I believe that glibc is at fault.  I'd
 like to try another distribution instead of going back to RH4.2, which
 uses libc5.
 
 I know very little about the Debian distribution in general.  My
 question: does hamm use glibc or libc5?  If it is glibc, is there a way
 to compile PHP and Apache using libc5?
Go with Debian 2.0, it's thoroughly mostly bug free and is libc6/glibc
based.  Apache and PHP packages are available and are a snap to get
working.

Adam Keys
aka uberfunk


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Re: SCSI Controller

1998-07-31 Thread Stephen A. Witt
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Timothy C. Phan wrote:

 Hi,
 
   Didn't Adaptec bought out BusLogic?  I thought I heard some news like
   that a while back!
 

No, Mylex (whoever they are) bought BusLogic.  


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Re: SCSI Controller

1998-07-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Stephen A. Witt wrote:

: On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Timothy C. Phan wrote:
: 
:  Hi,
:  
:Didn't Adaptec bought out BusLogic?  I thought I heard some news like
:that a while back!
:  
: 
: No, Mylex (whoever they are) bought BusLogic.  

Yup, and Adaptec bought Future Domain (and then proceeded to give us
that shi^H^H^Hgreat SCSI card, the AHA2920)

Mylex used to make system boards - I believe they still do.  It used to
be you couldn't go wrong with Mylex :)

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Re: SCSI Controller

1998-07-31 Thread Anders Hammarquist
 Hi,
 
   Didn't Adaptec bought out BusLogic?  I thought I heard some news like
   that a while back!

No, that was Symbios, and it didn't turn in to anything. See
http://slashdot.org/articles/980626094256.shtml if you want details.

 Anders Hammarquist wrote:
  
 Which motherboard has the BusLogic on board?  Thanks!
  
  I don't know of any, or if they even exist (I suspect not). You should
  check with the manufacutrer Mylex http://www.mylex.com/ - they should know
  if there are any motherboards out there with BusLogic controllers on them.



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Re: Linux vs. Windows

1998-07-31 Thread Tom Pfeifer
George Bonser wrote:
 

 One thing that I find common is that newbies do not take the time
 to read the instructions. They think they can figure it out as they
 go along like they are used to doing with Windows. That can be 
 disaster with Linux because it will not warn you that you are about to
 erase a partition, it assumes you read the documentation and know what
 you are doing.


This is true, but no matter how much you read, partitioning is still 
very error prone if you've never done it before. I've done so much of 
it that it's second nature, but the first few times are tough - and when 
it comes down to it, you have to do it to learn it. My point was really
that installing Linux sort of takes the hit for this, when it really
has nothing to do with Linux itself.


  A lot of the problem is also Windows' fault. It assumes that it is the
 only OS on the computer and gets cranky when a new OS tries to move in.


The only problem along these lines with Windows is that it insists on
rewriting the MBR when you install it. This can really throw someone 
who's not aware of it, and this practice is dead wrong - no OS should 
ever do that without at least asking. I've never had any other problem
as far as Windows getting along with other OSes.


 The second most common mistake is not reading the dselect documentaion
 and the third mistake is trying to select a bunch of stuff on the first
 pass through dselect. 


This is very true, and let's face it - dselect is damn confusing at
first, especially when you barely know what a package is!

Tom


 George Bonser
 
 Microsoft! Which end of the stick do you want today?
 
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Re: Dumb Terminals

1998-07-31 Thread Bill Bell
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dumb Terminals
Date: 30 Jul 1998 21:58:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have some old computers that I would like to use as dumb terminals.  
I
 was wondering if someone could point me to a good howto or faq on how 
to
 set this up or perhaps give me some tips and or help.  

Among a zillion other things this is covered in the Serial-HOWTO, which
you probably have on your system as /usr/doc/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.gz.

You need a terminal program on the computer you want to use as a
terminal. Connection by a null-modem cable.

Actual configuration on the Linux host side is trivial. You need to 
tell
init(8) to spawn a getty on that particular serial port. Enter an
appropriate entry in /etc/inittab. There's an example there. E.g.,
I use:

T6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -hL ttyS6 38400 vt320

-L tells getty that this is a local line, i.e. not connected to a 
modem,
-h tells it to use RTS/CTS flow control (not required but recommended).
Then there's the serial port, which is probably ttyS0 or ttyS1 unless
you have a multi-port card, the speed and terminal type. For the latter
two, use what your dumb terminal (or emulation thereof) supports.

After editing /etc/inittab you need to tell init(8) to re-read its
configuration file. The telinit q command will do this.

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Please correct me if I am not understanding the question, but I belive 
you originally asked if the connection to the dumb device could be 
done without a cpu/OS (PC) between the dumb station and the server.  I 
would not even begin to guess how to make a monitor/keyboard/mouse 
talk serial, (or any other way), to a server without some form of cpu.

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dselect and getting rid of dependency complaining without installing packages.

1998-07-31 Thread Christopher Barry
Hi,

This has been bugging me for awhile and now I guess I'll ask what to do
about it. I've been using glibc Netscape 4.5pre1 for awhile now and I
installed it with dpkg -i --force-depends using the NS4 debian
installer. Whenever I use dselect I always have to exit with 'Q' or else
it will keep on telling me Netscape needs all these old libs which it
really doesn't. I was hoping the slink NS installer would be smart about
this but it looks like it's the exact same version as the hamm. Can I
just get dselect to shut up about it?

Thanks,
Christopher


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Re: dselect and getting rid of dependency complaining without installing packages.

1998-07-31 Thread Aria Prima Novianto


On 31 Jul 98 01:00:22 GMT, Christopher Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,

This has been bugging me for awhile and now I guess I'll ask what to do
about it. I've been using glibc Netscape 4.5pre1 for awhile now and I
installed it with dpkg -i --force-depends using the NS4 debian
installer. Whenever I use dselect I always have to exit with 'Q' or else
it will keep on telling me Netscape needs all these old libs which it
really doesn't. I was hoping the slink NS installer would be smart about
this but it looks like it's the exact same version as the hamm. Can I
just get dselect to shut up about it?

Thanks,
Christopher


You can grab the netscape4 installer deb source and repackage it using
dpkg-buildpackage. 
Make sure to give it a higher version number.
That's what I did. I think I still have the new deb file somewhere if you
need it.
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Re: log file rotation in hamm...

1998-07-31 Thread Shaleh
Ok Alan, tell me how you like this answer.  syslogd-listfiles has a -f
option.  With you you can pass it a BOGUS syslogd.conf file.  Here is
one I doctored for show purposes.

Run syslogd-listfiles -f test.conf and you will see how it works.  (Also
see the --weekly).

Now if you like this setup, edit cron.{daily,weekly}/sysklogd and add
the -f file to each call to syslogd-listfiles.*.*;ppp -/var/log/ppp.log
*.*;mail-/var/mail/mail.log


auth,authpriv.* /var/log/auth.log
#*.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog
auth,authpriv.none  -/var/log/syslog
#cron.* /var/log/cron.log
daemon.*-/var/log/daemon.log
kern.*  -/var/log/kern.log
lpr.*   -/var/log/lpr.log
mail.*  /var/log/mail.log
user.*  -/var/log/user.log

#
# Logging for the mail system. Split it up so that
# it is easy to write scripts to parse these files.
#
mail.info   -/var/log/mail.info
mail.warn   -/var/log/mail.warn
mail.err/var/log/mail.err

# Logging for INN news system
#
#news.crit  /var/log/news/news.crit
#news.err   /var/log/news/news.err
#news.notice-/var/log/news/news.notice

#
# Some `catch-all' logfiles.
#
*.=debug;\
auth,authpriv.none;\
news.none;mail.none -/var/log/debug
*.=info;*.=notice;*.=warn;\
auth,authpriv.none;\
cron,daemon.none;\
mail.none   -/var/log/messages

#
# Emergencies are sent to everybody logged in.
#
*.emerg *

#
# I like to have messages displayed on the console, but only on a virtual
# console I usually leave idle.
#
daemon,mail.*;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=notice;*.=warn   /dev/tty5

# The named pipe /dev/xconsole is for the `xconsole' utility.  To use it,
# you must invoke `xconsole' with the `-file' option:
# 
#$ xconsole -file /dev/xconsole [...]
#
# NOTE: adjust the list below, or you'll go crazy if you have a reasonably
#  busy site..
#
daemon.*,mail.*;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=notice;*.=warn   |/dev/xconsole


Re: Dumb Terminals Was: Unidentified subject!

1998-07-31 Thread Paul
It should be fairly trivial to set up some terminals up to serial ports.
What kind of terminals do you have in mind?

This would require a serial port for each terminal and changes in 
/etc/inittab.

On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone or does anyone know how to, set up dumb terminals that are not
 X terminals?  I have read a few docs that some have pointed me to
 (greatly appreciated) but they describe installing a unix on them I was
 wondering if there was a way to just plug a few monitors into 1 box
 kind of like an old mainframe but all the dumb terminal would have would
 be is a keyboard and a monitor.
 
 
  If I had known this before IJoel Keating
  started, I would have been a plumber-Albert Einstein 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
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How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Scott Hill
I am quite a beginner.  I am trying to make a clone of my hamm  (disk A)
to another
hard drive (disk B).  Here is what I did.
1. I put them on master/slave and I partitioned B appropriately.
2. I created file systems on appropriate partitions with mkfs /dev/hdb2
and so on..
3. I mount the B partitions on the /mnt  point.
4. After reading in a multidisk HOWTO that cp is well behaved with
regard to
symbolic links I did a
cp -av /usr/mnt/usr
cp -av /home  /mnt/home
and so on for each of the files and directories under /
(I did not just do the whole disk at one go cause I wanted to avoid /mnt
and /proc).

Anyway,  I take off the A and use my floppy boot diskette and B and i
can logon
and seems ok.  I want to boot off the hard drive so I did a /sbin/lilo.
But can't boot
off hard drive, just after the fsck check of partitions I get error
message:
unable to open an initial console.

So:  is there a better way to do a clone (like a script) that i could
not find? Is there
a better way to get contents of A onto B in step 4?  Did some files not
go through
by my cp method.

Thanks,

Scott




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disc two

1998-07-31 Thread David Parmet


base14-2 is coming up bad sector every time i try to rawrite it to a
diskette


any other sources?



tia


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Re: Mounting Win95 Shares with samba

1998-07-31 Thread joost


On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote:

 Have you any ideas on what this is trying to tell me?
 
 elm# smbmount  //gum/h /mnt
 Password:
 SMBFS: need mount version 6
 mount error: Invalid argument
 Please look at smbmount's manual page for possible reasons
 
 Running 2.1.105 if that makes a difference.

IIRC when running 2.1.x kernels, you need to install the smbfsx package
instead of smbfs.

Cheers,


Joost


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enlightenment package for bo (libc5)?

1998-07-31 Thread the lone gunman

I'm still running the crusty ol' bo (1.3.1) Debian release.  I'd like
to install the Enlightenment window manager, but the only .deb package
I can find is libc6-based (and bo is libc5).

I tried installing from scratch, but that just didn't work.

Any hints?

Thanks!


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Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Scott Hill wrote:

[ moving partitions snipped ]

: Anyway,  I take off the A and use my floppy boot diskette and B and i
: can logon
: and seems ok.  I want to boot off the hard drive so I did a /sbin/lilo.
: But can't boot
: off hard drive, just after the fsck check of partitions I get error
: message:
: unable to open an initial console.

Sounds like a missing device file.

: So:  is there a better way to do a clone (like a script) that i could
: not find? Is there
: a better way to get contents of A onto B in step 4?  Did some files not
: go through
: by my cp method.

[ Warning!  You are about to invoke religious debate ]

I've found that `find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt' works everytime
device and other strange files included.

So, to copy on filesystem to another, mount the target filesystem on
/mnt .  `cd' to the mountpoint of the source filesystem (you're moving /
`cd /', /usr `cd /usr', etc.)  Then run the above command.  Couldn't be
easier.

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Re: enlightenment package for bo (libc5)?

1998-07-31 Thread Shaleh
If you want to run E, I recommend moving on up to hamm (or slink). 
Otherwise, you have to compile your own version of the following (in
order):

libz
libtiff
libpng
libjpeg
either libgif or libungif
Imlib
Fnlib
Enlightenment

If you want to -- go for it.  Frankly give it up and move on to Hamm. 
It is better, faster, etc.  All the libs except for libjpeg are rather
out of date in Bo.  libungif is not there at all.

I do not have access to a Bo box or I would offer to help.  

(BTW I maintain E, Imlib and Fnlib for Debian).


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Re: Can only run X as root

1998-07-31 Thread George R
On 07/30/98 at 11:55 AM, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:


X should be suid root and look like:

$ ls -l /usr/bin/X11/X
-rwsr-xr-x   1 root root 4880 Jun 23 23:46 /usr/bin/X11/X
   ^ important

Something must have messed up your setup, maybe you could try to set X
back with a

chmod -v 4755 /usr/bin/X11/X

THAT WAS IT!!!  I must have changed it.  As I said I fiddled with it so
much I was repeating the same mistake over and over.

Thanks everyone, what tech support!

George



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guile problem Re: gnome-card-games

1998-07-31 Thread B. Bell
Thanks!

It looks like guile installs /usr/share/guile/slib - ../../lib/slib

but, of course, /usr/lib/slib does not exist on my system yet...

so, perhaps guile needs to depend on slib...

-brad

On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Joey Hess wrote:
 usr/lib/scm/require.scm  interpreters/scm
 usr/lib/slib/require.scm devel/slib

B. Bell wrote:
 when I run /usr/bin/sol, I get this error:
 
 guile: Could not find slib/require.scm in  (/usr/share/guile/site
 /usr/share/guile/1.2 /usr/share/guile .)
 



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Re: Linus Torvalds interview

1998-07-31 Thread C.J.LAWSON
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote:
 Well, Windows is a decent OS if you know how to use and configure it right
 (and work around its many bugs). If you can't deal with bugs in an OS you
 don't deserve to be allowed to use a computer, or even own one. Windows
I wonder if you would have the same attitude if you loose vital data on a
computer crash. You sound as if you can predict when the crash is going to
occur (I have seen windoze freeze a few minutes after a systems reset)

 took many years to develop into its present state of glory and bugs alike.
 Do you think MS took only 5 minutes to design and implement the UI? Or
 FAT32? I don't think so.
Not that Trovalds took any longer ... I think we are missing the point
here. The length of time one takes to achieve a task is irrelevant
(particularly so when there are standards which have to be met/adhered
to). The fact that I take two weeks to assemble the components of a
computer 'does not' make it better than one assembled in two hours by
default.
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fdisk and fujitsu drives

1998-07-31 Thread G. Crimp
I've got a 6.4 GB fujitsu drive that I am trying partition. 
Actually,  I had it partitioned, formatted (no reported errors), and file
system from an old disk transferred to it.  However,  I made it the master
after the fs transfer, and was using a rescue floppy to boot, mount all the
partitions and set up LILO, but LILO setup failed with:

Device 0X0300: Invalid partition table, 3rd entry
3D address: 1/0/78 (73710)
linear address: 55/11/21 (20592)

fdisk reported the first four partitions not ending on cylinder boundaries.
Also, the beginning, starting and ending cylinders are all wonky. Eg., 
begin   start   end typesize
part 1  1   1   11  native  5M
part 2  40  11  22  native  5M
part 3  79  22  239 native  100M
part 4  855 239 2859extendd rest of disk
part 5  855 239 889 native  300M
part 6  1024889 1539native  300M
part 7  102415392189native  300M
part 8  202421892623native  200M

So, v (verify) gives all kinds of errors (end of cylinders not on
boundaries, bad start of data, partitions overlapping).  I deleted all the
partitions and started over which fixed up the beginning cylinders on parts
1-4 but not the rest.  ( I didn't write the partition table so I still have
the old setup)

QUESTIONS:
1)  Does this matter ? (apparently it does to LILO) I was able to mke2fs -c
all partitions no problem, and copy over the old file system.

and if it does matter,

2a) Anyone know what is causing this ?
2b)   I can do to fix it ?

I suspect this might be a logical/physical geometry thing.  Linux required
me to explicitly state the physical geometry of a 1.2 Gig Seagate (now a
paper weight) before it would install on it.  However, I have a Western
Digital 3.1 Gig in another box that Linux happily installed on without the
physical parameters.

All help appreciated. Thanks,

Gerald


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Re: American Cancer Society Email... HOAX! (fwd)

1998-07-31 Thread Richard Alhama
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Norbert Bottlaender-Prier wrote:

 Richard L. Alhama a écrit:
 
 ... 
  DEATH TO SPAMMERS!
  
 Aardvark Daily
  
 Spam not ours says American Cancer Society
 ...
 
 Not only that, but think seriously : If they think about giving money,
 WHY WOULD THEY WASTE THEIR TIME AND ENERGY COUNTING E-MAILS for 3 cts.
 each ? They'd give it right away, wouldn't they ?

Yup! Absolutely

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[hamm] How-to install the powerpc version?

1998-07-31 Thread Nico De Ranter

Howdy,

I'm a little bit confused here.  On the mirror I'm mirroring from there are
directories called:

/dists/stable/hamm/binary-alpha
/dists/stable/hamm/binary-powerpc
/dists/stable/hamm/binary-sparc
/dists/stable/hamm/disks-alpha
/dists/stable/hamm/disks-sparc

However on the main debian ftp site these seem to have vanished.  Any idea where
they went to?  Anyway I need to install linux on some spare macs we have
here (so they can be usefull for once :-) ) and ofcourse I would prefer
to use Debian.  Is there a Debian version for powerpc and ifso how can I install
it since there is no disks-powerpc directory?

Thanks in advance,

Nico

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Re: Anyone Read the Articles on Free Software In Forbes

1998-07-31 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thursday 30 July 1998, at 15 h 40, the keyboard of Allan Bart 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just received the august 10th issue of forbes and guess who is on
 the front page? Linus himself, in a semi hippie pose. the articel is

International audience should note that, in the global edition of Forbes, 
which you can buy in France for instance, the cover is completely different 
(but the paper on free software is there and is very well written, very well 
explained, highly recommened if you have a suit to convince).

I wonder why the editors of Forbes judged that europeans would not like a cover 
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Re: Great stdout/stderr turorial!!! SHELL: duping stdout and stderr to another file

1998-07-31 Thread Ulisses Alonso
Hi Daniel!

It's a great tutorial what you have done here

[...]

 I hope this answers your question.

It's a joke? :-)


Best whishes

Ulisses

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Re: SHELL: duping stdout and stderr to another file

1998-07-31 Thread Ulisses Alonso
Hi Jim!

[...]
 Take a look at the tee command.  Its in the package
 shellutils.
 
 With tee you should be able to redirect stderr to stdout
 (for whatever shell you are using) and then use tee to
 copy stdout to a file.

Thanks for your reply

regards,

Ulisses

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Solution: find -exec

1998-07-31 Thread Ulisses Alonso
Hi all!

I reply myself here

On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 Ulisses Alonso wrote:
   
   Hi all
   
   I would like to know if there is a way to make something like this
   
   find some path -exec command1 {} | command2 \; 
  
 I take it you want to run the pipeline `command1 | command2' on each file.
 
 I don't think you can do this with find's own command line; the easiest way
 is probably to write a little script and execute that instead:
[...]
 find some path -exec myscript {} \;

I found a better way:

find some path -exec bash -c myfirstcommand {} | mysecondcommand | [...] \;

Note that the use of find's {} is correct here

Regards,

Ulisses

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Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Scott,

It may help if you read over this mini-HOWTO which covers this exact
topic:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html

I've used the first copy method (with everything on one partition) many
times with no problem. It also gives several other variations of how to
copy depending on your setup.

One thing to check is if you have a /proc directory on the new disk,
because you usually need to do that manually.

Tom

Scott Hill wrote:
 
 I am quite a beginner.  I am trying to make a clone of my hamm  (disk A)
 to another
 hard drive (disk B).  Here is what I did.
 1. I put them on master/slave and I partitioned B appropriately.
 2. I created file systems on appropriate partitions with mkfs /dev/hdb2
 and so on..
 3. I mount the B partitions on the /mnt  point.
 4. After reading in a multidisk HOWTO that cp is well behaved with
 regard to
 symbolic links I did a
 cp -av /usr/mnt/usr
 cp -av /home  /mnt/home
 and so on for each of the files and directories under /
 (I did not just do the whole disk at one go cause I wanted to avoid /mnt
 and /proc).
 
 Anyway,  I take off the A and use my floppy boot diskette and B and i
 can logon
 and seems ok.  I want to boot off the hard drive so I did a /sbin/lilo.
 But can't boot
 off hard drive, just after the fsck check of partitions I get error
 message:
 unable to open an initial console.
 
 So:  is there a better way to do a clone (like a script) that i could
 not find? Is there
 a better way to get contents of A onto B in step 4?  Did some files not
 go through
 by my cp method.
 
 Thanks,
 
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dump, rmt, and bo

1998-07-31 Thread David Khoury

  Hi ... trying to backup a bo system to another bo system.  I'm using
dump ver 0.3-14 and cpio 2.4.2-10 .

  Trying to dump or even run restore gets the error message:
'Protocol to remote tape server botched (code sh: rmt: command not found).
 rdump: Lost connection to remote host.'

  This one has got me buggered.  Has anyone got any ideas??
 
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Re: Which debian?

1998-07-31 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Adam Keys wrote:

 : Go with Debian 2.0, it's thoroughly mostly bug free and is libc6/glibc
 : based.  Apache and PHP packages are available and are a snap to get
 : working.

Beware that the current apache (1.3.1) and php3 (3.0) packages in slink
don't work together. Get the apache 1.3.0 package (I think it's in hamm)
and it works.

 -Remco


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Re: SCSI Controller

1998-07-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jul 30, 1998 at 06:54:17PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 Yup, and Adaptec bought Future Domain (and then proceeded to give us
 that shi^H^H^Hgreat SCSI card, the AHA2920)

Well, Adaptec recently tried to buy Symbios Logic but gave up due
to competition concerns. I could just see all good SCSI card manufacturers
being absorbed in to Adaptec ..

I do like Adaptec's CD mastering software for Windows though.

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RE: HP DeskJet 890C: poor performance on Linux vs. Windows

1998-07-31 Thread Ted Harding
On 30-Jul-98 Martin Weinberg wrote:
 I have benchmarked the performance of both the cdj550, hp850, and
 hpdj drivers in gs on my Debian box and the HP provided Windows
 driver.  I used both photographs and scientific visualized data.
 
 I'm using magicfilter and the parameters to gs were set as
 recommended in the various gs readmes.

What format were the original image files in? If not in PS, how did you get
them into PS for gs to work on?

Ted.


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ssltelnet not working...

1998-07-31 Thread Ulisses Alonso
Hi all,

anybody using ssltelnet?

I'm using:

ii libssl08 0.8.1-7 SSL shared libraries 
ii ssleay 0.8.1-7 Secure Socket Layer and related cryptographi 
ii ssltelnet 0.11.1-2 SSLtelnet(d) is telnet(d) replacement with e

I setup certificates and private key using

req -new -x509 -nodes -out telnetd.pem -keyout telnetd.pem ln -s
telnetd.pem `x509 -noout -hash  telnetd.pem`.0

also verified...

verify telnetd.pem

as the READMEs say...

but or it cores dump (when telneting to localhost) but it seems to 
work when I telnet to some ssl aware host: 

bash-2.01$ telnet -z ssl localhost 
Trying 127.0.0.1...  
Connected to localhost.  
Escape character is '^]'.  
Segmentation fault

bash-2.01$ telnet -z ssl www.bemarnet.es 443 
Trying 194.179.67.200... 
Connected to www.bemarnet.es. 
Escape character is '^]'. 


I would like to know what is really happening before sending a bug to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

If I execute telnet client as

bash-2.01$ telnet -z ssl -z verbose -z cert=/usr/lib/ssl/certs/telnetd.pem 
localhost 
Trying 127.0.0.1... 
SSL_connect:PINIT before SSL initalisation
SSL_connect:23WCHA SSLv2/v3 write client hello A 
SSL_connect:error in 23RSHA SSLv2/v3 read server hello A 
Connected to localhost. 
Escape character is '^]'. 
Segmentation fault

The same happens if -z cert=... is ommited

Does I need to setup something more?

Any comment will be greatly appreciated,

Ulisses

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Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Eugene Sevinian

Hi Tom, 
I have read from this mini-howto (point 4.) the following:
...(Note: Contrary to what the man page states, 
the command mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdb1 doesn't check for bad blocks under
any of Red Hat, Debian or Slackware.)...

Is it true for Debian?

On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Tom Pfeifer wrote:

 Scott,
 
 It may help if you read over this mini-HOWTO which covers this exact
 topic:
 
 http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html
 
 I've used the first copy method (with everything on one partition) many
 times with no problem. It also gives several other variations of how to
 copy depending on your setup.
 
 One thing to check is if you have a /proc directory on the new disk,
 because you usually need to do that manually.
 
 Tom
 
 Scott Hill wrote:
  
  I am quite a beginner.  I am trying to make a clone of my hamm  (disk A)
  to another

[...]

 

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PLEASE - I really need help

1998-07-31 Thread Mario Filipe
Hi

Like i've said before, upgrading from bo to hamm broke my X. Namely evrything
that is  in xbase does not work. THat means xinit, xterm , startx, xauth, etc.

When I try to run any of these programms i get the following:

xterm: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6: undefined symbol: _Xglobal_lock

I've looked into this library and :

12:01:57 mjnf neptuno# ld /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; not setting start address
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6: undefined reference to `_Xglobal_lock'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6: undefined reference to `_XUnlockMutex_fn'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6: undefined reference to `_XLockMutex_fn'

and ...

12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x)

I've tryed to reinstall all the packages without success. 

On an act of dispair of tryed to hand compile the thing (i thing i messed up
because i ended up compiling the entire xfree stuff!HUGE), but in the end
(after several hours of compilation) it didn't work. I noticed during the
compilation of XF86Setup that it said something about needing tk4.1 well :

12:03:01 mjnf neptuno# dpkg -l | grep tk
ii  tk404.0p3-5The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.0 - Run-Ti
ii  tk414.1p1-2The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.1 - Run-Ti

So am i missing something! Is there Hope for me! PLEASE just anwser me even if
it is to tell me that i can shoot myself in the head!

Any aditional info that you need just ask i'll give it to you (well ... not any
kind ... i'm not ready yet to give you my root password )...

Thanks (I eagerly await your awnsers)

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Re: PLEASE - I really need help

1998-07-31 Thread jdassen
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:08:20PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
 12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
 libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001)

The dynamic loader tries to load it against a libc5 library,

 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000)

but it is a libc 6 library.

Did you install the xlib6g package, which contains the libc6 X libraries?

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Re: Is this expected ssh behavior?

1998-07-31 Thread Razathorn


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Re: PLEASE - I really need help

1998-07-31 Thread Mario Filipe

On 31-Jul-98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:08:20PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
 12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
 libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001)
 
 The dynamic loader tries to load it against a libc5 library,
 
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000)
 
 but it is a libc 6 library.
 
 Did you install the xlib6g package, which contains the libc6 X libraries?

12:18:10 mjnf neptuno# dpkg -l | grep xlib
ii  xlib6   3.3.2.2-4  shared libraries required by libc5 X clients
ii  xlib6g  3.3.2.2-4  shared libraries required by X clients
ii  xlib6g-dev  3.3.2.2-4  include files and libraries for X client dev 

Hope this awnsers your question and helps solve my problem...

Thanks

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Is the diskless boot possible in debian ?

1998-07-31 Thread Sakai Atsushi
I plan to boot diskless PC as a X-terminal temporaly.
If you have any suggestion, please tell me.

Also I cannot find FDD image for Diskless boot
(which is documented in Diskless-HOWTO) 
Please tell me good ftp site.

The reason I plan to boot diskless PC is
the PC SCSI-IF does not seems  working now.

A.Sakai


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Re: PLEASE - I really need help

1998-07-31 Thread Mario Filipe



On 31-Jul-98 Mario Filipe wrote:
 
 On 31-Jul-98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:08:20PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
 12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
 libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001)
 
 The dynamic loader tries to load it against a libc5 library,
 
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000)
 
 but it is a libc 6 library.

No netscape doesn't work :

13:53:22 mjnf neptuno$ ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape
libXt.so.6 = not found
libSM.so.6 = not found
libICE.so.6 = not found
libXmu.so.6 = not found
libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x4000c000)
libXext.so.6 = not found
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4001a000)
libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x400b8000)
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x400bb000)
libg++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x40179000)
libstdc++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x401b1000)
libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x401e2000)

but ...

13:55:03 mjnf neptuno$ ldconfig -p | grep libXt.so.6
libXt.so.6 (libc6) = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
libXt.so.6 (libc4) = /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/libXt.so.6
libXt.so.6 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6

Can someone shed some light over this. I'm going crazy!

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Re: Is this expected ssh behavior?

1998-07-31 Thread Brandon Mitchell
package: bash
version: 2.01.1-3.1

On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

  I do set the path, but it doesn't look like it is being run. (Other
  statements should print to the screen as an earlier example you ran
  showed.) ssh hostname does execute .bash_profile.
 
 Ok, let's focus on this.  Anyone have a good idea as to why bash doesn't
 read it's .bash_profile when ssh is given the -t switch and bash is given
 the -login switch?  I'm stumped.

[ Submitting bug report, watch cc's when replying. ]

Dang, it does look like it's a debian problem.  I'm guessing it's a
problem with bash only taking the first arguement after -c and not
handling the --login switch appropriately when -c is given.  Here's an
example of the bug:

[EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ bash -c echo hello world

[EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ 

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: HP DeskJet 890C: poor performance on Linux vs. Windows

1998-07-31 Thread Martin Weinberg
Hi,

I used GIMP to view the original images and convert to postscript.
They were both jpeg and gif originally.  Similar results were 
obtained by converting with XV.

Hm.  Is there a better way to do the conversion?

--M

Regarding your message dated: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:00:51 BST
On 30-Jul-98 Martin Weinberg wrote:
 I have benchmarked the performance of both the cdj550, hp850, and
 hpdj drivers in gs on my Debian box and the HP provided Windows
 driver.  I used both photographs and scientific visualized data.
 
 I'm using magicfilter and the parameters to gs were set as
 recommended in the various gs readmes.

What format were the original image files in? If not in PS, how did you get
them into PS for gs to work on?

Ted.


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[OFF TOPIC] How to obtain molecules' pictures when using LaTeX ?

1998-07-31 Thread Max Lawson
Hello,

I'd like to put molecules' pictures in a LaTeX-document. 
What package should I retrieve ? 

Actually, I'd like to know if there's sthg like Chemdraw 
in the GNU environment ? I could use xfig, but it looks like 
overkill, isn't it ? :-/

Thanx in advance, Max


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Re: Trouble With Simple Thing.

1998-07-31 Thread Will Lowe
   I'm sorta new to Debian.. and I was wondering if anyone could help
 me with limiting users to their own directory. I've read docs about it,
 but still can't get it working. Anyone help? Thanks.

What exactly are you trying to do?  Preventing users from changing
directories can be accomplished by forcing them to run bash in restricted
mode...

Will


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Re: Is this expected ssh behavior?

1998-07-31 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Paulo J. da Silva e Silva wrote:

 Brandon Mitchell writes:
   Dang, it does look like it's a debian problem.  I'm guessing it's a
   problem with bash only taking the first arguement after -c and not
   handling the --login switch appropriately when -c is given.  Here's an
   example of the bug:
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ bash -c echo hello world
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ 
 
 I don't think this behavior is Debian specific. Here is some output from a
 solaris2.5 system:
 
 --
 
 rebutosa[~]% bash -c echo hello world
  
 rebutosa[~]% bash -c echo hello world
 hello world
 rebutosa[~]% 
 rebutosa[~]% bash --version
 GNU bash, version 2.00.0(1)-release (sparc-sun-solaris2.5)
 Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Thanks Paulo.  Well Guy, I don't know what to do with this one.  It turns
out that -i helps run some of the login scripts and my goofup with -c is
probably enough to close this bug report.  You wouldn't happen to know how
to get bash to read all of it's appropriate login scripts and then
executing a command would you (this is for over an ssh connection)? 

Thanks,
Brandon

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Re: PLEASE - I really need help

1998-07-31 Thread Mario Filipe
Hello

Thanks to everyone but everything id ok now! I had installed a different
libX11 for deadkeys and that was the thing that was messing up the whole
thing.

THere are still a few problems but they will be solved 

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Maintaining the operating environment Questions:

1998-07-31 Thread G. Kaplan
Is there any way to determine the distribution source of an installed
module ?

Suppose I wanted to maintain a system through  dpkg  , where is it
reasonable to store files that are not part of the current standard
distribution; but are:
1. a properly defined .deb package,
2. a properly defined .rpm package, or
3. a primary module i.e.. xyz.tar.gz
What are the consequences with respect to 'Packages' , 'available',
'available-old', 'status', 'status-old'?
What side effects should I be on the look out for?

I am reading the programmer and policy documentation; but do not feel
comfortable with my lack of understanding of side effects.

Thank you.


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Re: Maintaining the operating environment Questions:

1998-07-31 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, G. Kaplan wrote:

 Is there any way to determine the distribution source of an installed
 module ?
Not sure what you're asking here.

 Suppose I wanted to maintain a system through  dpkg  , where is it
 reasonable to store files that are not part of the current standard
 distribution; but are:
 1. a properly defined .deb package,
These can be handled by dpkg -- even if they're not in the current
distribution,  it'll install them and keep track of them for you.  It'll
mark them as Obselete/Local in its package listing (because they don't
fit in its current notion of what the distribution is,  but otherwise
with no side effects), but won't complain about installing or managing
them for you.

 2. a properly defined .rpm package
Use alien to convert it to a .deb and then see #1.

 3. a primary module i.e. .xyz.tar.gz
Generally it's safest to untar, compile and install these with
prefix=/usr/local ... debian packages won't touch anything under
/usr/local,  so nothing will get overwritten or anything.  In general,  a
lot of stuff you compile from tarballs yourself has a default install
under /usr/local.

Will
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Where can I find...

1998-07-31 Thread Mario Filipe
hi

Well what package contains :
Xm/Xm.h
Xm/Text.h
Xm/List.h
Xm/ToggleB.h

Thanks

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Re: [OFF TOPIC] How to obtain molecules' pictures when using LaTeX ?

1998-07-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:03:53PM +0200, Max Lawson wrote:

 Actually, I'd like to know if there's sthg like Chemdraw in the GNU
 environment ? I could use xfig, but it looks like overkill, isn't it ? :-/

Look in CTAN for chemsym, ppchtex (Plain TeX), xymtex (latex209)

CTAN is http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/catalogue.html

or try SAL (http://sal.kachinatech.com/, specifically
http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/ -- but look for a mirror first!!!)


Marcelo


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Re: Where can I find...

1998-07-31 Thread jdassen
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:05:24PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
 Well what package contains :
 Xm/Xm.h
 Xm/Text.h
 Xm/List.h
 Xm/ToggleB.h

lesstifg-dev .

HTH,
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'eepro' module missing in 2.0 ???

1998-07-31 Thread Sergei Organov
Hello;

Just tried to install Debian 2.0. Can't, however,
find module for Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 card.
In older versions of Debian it was 'eepro' module.

Help, please.

Thanks in advance.
Sergei Organov.


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Re: Where can I find...

1998-07-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:05:24PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:

 Well what package contains :
 Xm/Xm.h
 Xm/Text.h
 Xm/List.h
 Xm/ToggleB.h

If you have a Debian CD-ROM, look for the file Contents-i386 (or
Contents-i386.gz) and then 

$ grep Xm/Xm.h Contents-i386

or 

$ zgrep Xm/Xm.h Contents-386.gz

on the right side of the screen you'll see things like

devel/foobar-dev

That means that the package foobar-dev in section devel contains the file
you are looking for.

Or look in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages, near the bottom of the
page there's a search form entitled Search the Contents of the lastest
release.


Marcelo

PS: It's in devel/lesstifg-dev


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SPI maintains Debian?

1998-07-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
Seen on COLA

Message ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...
Our work is supported in part by SPI, who maintain the Debian
GNU/Linux distribution.
...

I thought SPI maintained copyrights and the like for Debian - I was
not aware they were involved to the extent implied by this sentence.  Is
there information available which clearly delineates the relationship
between Debian and SPI?

(I'm not (too) paranoid, just confused)

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Problem mounting a NFS Filesystem

1998-07-31 Thread Nico Fritschi
Hello,

i got two boxes, which i wanted to connect. As usual i wanted to mount
filesystem A with my box B. But I get the message: mount clntudp_create:
RPC: Program not registered
So i checked that with rpcinfo -p (Box A) and it get the message No
remote programs registered.
So i check it directly on my Box A.

102   tcp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
132   udp   2049  nfs
132   tcp   2049  nfs
151   udp732  mountd
152   udp732  mountd
151   tcp735  mountd
152   tcp735  mountd  
That's what I get. That means all is running.
How is that possible? The Ethernet Hard- and Software is configured
correctly because the machines can ping each other.
Had someone already have the same experience and can help me?

Thanks in advance.

Nico


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Re: Problem mounting a NFS Filesystem

1998-07-31 Thread Will Lowe
Do you have the NFS filesystem compiled into your kernel?

Will


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about sendmail

1998-07-31 Thread Mario Filipe
Hi

(Yes it's me again)
Is there a good way to diagnose what's happenning with sendmail ?

Let me clarify: Sendmail is running, it's using the bo configuration I
telnet into the machine into port smtp and it responds but if i send mail
to it it just gets lost in the vacuum...

Thanks 

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Minicom OK, PPP very slow!

1998-07-31 Thread Young, Ed

Last night I did a brand new install of 2.0. All went well and I wanted to
get ppp going. 

I saved the distribution ppp files and put in my old options, options.ttyS3,
net-connect, and net-chat files. 

When I run pppd it connects and I get an IP and everything works, except it
is *extremely* slow. 

tail -f /var/log/messages reports that it has connected at 9600 baud (not
sure why so slow)

but if I ping the host I get 50% lost packets and loop time of approx
6ms

(What is that, 60 seconds per packet??!!)

Even trying to telnet is impossible. 

Now, if I connect with minicom, it reports that it has connected at 56k and
works nicely. 

I'm pretty sure that this is a new version of ppp and I suspect that things
work differently and that I may need to configure differently. It works with
the old files, but not correctly. 

I can provide any info that is necessary. 

Thank you, 

Ed

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Re: Maintaining the operating environment Questions:

1998-07-31 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 11:01:54AM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, G. Kaplan wrote:
 
  3. a primary module i.e. .xyz.tar.gz
 Generally it's safest to untar, compile and install these with
 prefix=/usr/local ... debian packages won't touch anything under
 /usr/local,  so nothing will get overwritten or anything.  In general,  a
 lot of stuff you compile from tarballs yourself has a default install
 under /usr/local.

With respect to 1. and 2., one has to be careful here.

Native Debian packages don't touch /usr/local, so it is safe to put local
add ons there (and this is the intended and formal correct place).

BUT inofficial *.deb files and *.rpm files converted with alien may very
well contain /usr/local files, please check this with the --contents
option prior installation.

I believe you can even convert tar files to deb files. This is intereting if
you want to make /usr/local managed by dpkg.

Thank you,
Marcus

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Re: Is the diskless boot possible in debian ?

1998-07-31 Thread Christopher Wesneski
I am having considerable trouble setting up my modem to connect to my ISP. I'm 
pretty
sure I have the serial port configured but every time I run pppd via pon I get 
an
error in the log file. I've read all the HOWTOs and anything else I can find 
(since
no one on this list will ever help you if you don't) and I am still as lost as 
I was
going in. In one of the HOWTOs they mention kermit and another program to test 
(not
connect) the modem. I only have the base installed so I need to know,
1) what am I supposed to use to test that the modem is working?

2) is it a pert of the base install package?
  a) if not where can I get it and what do I need to do to get it running?

3) how can I mount(?) my win95 partition so I can access the files while in
Linux (and vice-versa)? It is a real pain to have to keep switching OSs to read 
this
lists mail and browse docs online and then try something and switch back and 
..
well you get the picture.

I can see why people complain about the learning curve. It's not a matter of 
getting
up it, it's just when you do get to a point where ignorance overcomes you and 
no one
is willing to help it gets very frustrating. I'm almost ready to switch back to
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where...

1998-07-31 Thread Mario Filipe

Hi

Once again i need help. Where is ssl.h! It used to be in ssleay but not
anymore. I've looked but in the non-US there is no COntents file so i
really can't find the darn thing. Can someone give me a hand.

Lots and Lots of thanks

Mario Filipe


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Re: where...

1998-07-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 05:36:35PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:

 Once again i need help. Where is ssl.h! It used to be in ssleay but not
 anymore. I've looked but in the non-US there is no COntents file so i
 really can't find the darn thing. Can someone give me a hand.

You are right, there's no Contents there... (/me thinks a bug should be
filed against nonus.debian.org)

The file is probably in libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb, in non-US:

$ dpkg --contents hamm/binary-i386/libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb | grep ssl.h
-rw-r--r-- root/root 46150 1998-07-06 07:48 usr/include/ssl/ssl.h


Marcelo


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Re: Linus Torvalds interview

1998-07-31 Thread tko
Please allow me my two cents of experience with Lost95 (if they don't 'Win',
they 'lost')


C.J.LAWSON writes:
 
 On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote:
  Well, Windows is a decent OS if you know how to use and configure it right
  (and work around its many bugs). If you can't deal with bugs in an OS you
  don't deserve to be allowed to use a computer, or even own one. Windows
 I wonder if you would have the same attitude if you loose vital data on a
 computer crash. You sound as if you can predict when the crash is going to
 occur (I have seen windoze freeze a few minutes after a systems reset)

Ever try replacing a Motherboard on a win95 system? That fabulous, great,
decent OS loses it's mind! You see, all information about the hardware is
kept in the registry files. When the Id's of the old MB (in the registry)
don't match the new Id's of the new MB, all H-LL breaks loose. In contrast,
Linux boots up without so much as a single hick-up and runs fine! Why would
one want to change the MB? MEMORY! I found that newer memory DIMMs are not
recognized properly by the older BIOS'es. Example, a 64Meg DIMM is reported as
a 16Meg DIMM or a 128Meg DIMM is reported as a 8Meg DIMM. Upgrading the MB to
a newer one fixes the problem!

 
  took many years to develop into its present state of glory and bugs alike.
  Do you think MS took only 5 minutes to design and implement the UI? Or
  FAT32? I don't think so.
 Not that Trovalds took any longer ... I think we are missing the point
 here. The length of time one takes to achieve a task is irrelevant
 (particularly so when there are standards which have to be met/adhered
 to). The fact that I take two weeks to assemble the components of a
 computer 'does not' make it better than one assembled in two hours by
 default.

You are right, the time is irrelevent, however, where is the peer review of
the inner workings of Win95/98? I get extremely irritated when an application
hoses the whole nine yards and I lose hours of labor to the blue screen of
death. I've yet to lose anything within Linux. Apparently, the Win95
advocates think that it is ok for the OS to lock down or freeze. Perhaps they
are numbed by the inability to fix the problem(s).

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Re: linux software

1998-07-31 Thread tko
Geoff Brimhall writes:
 
 Create a binary file, that contains the bit you want.
 
 The on the shell command line, execute the following command:
 
 cat binary_file_name  /dev/lp1.
 
 or whichever device is your printer.

If you store the word as a sequence of 10 bytes, you could simulate a serial
port with appropriate timing loops.


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Debian 2.0 SCSI Install Problem

1998-07-31 Thread Ian Stirling
I downloaded the Official Debian 3 CD images and built a set of three CDs

When I put the Debian 2 Binary CD in my machine and reboot the system boots
from the CDROM and loads various drivers.   It gets to the point when it tries
to
load the drivers for my SCSI card (an Adaptec 2940UW) and then it gets some
error (timeout I think) and goes into a loop trying this over and over again.

I booted with the Official 1.3 CD and it correctly identified the SCSI card and
I was able to install a skeleton system.

I then tried to ugrade this 1.3 system to 2.0 and the cd_autoup.sh command has
a couple of problems.  Firstly on the CD it does not have the eXecute file
permission set so it will not run.   I copied it to the /tmp directory, ran
chmod 555
against it, modified one line which points to the upgrade packages, and ran it.
This time it ran but failed with a pacgae missing error.  I think that it was
something
like libg++-2.7 that is missing.

Any help with either of these problems will be gratefully received.

Regards

Ian

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Re: where...

1998-07-31 Thread Shaleh
Mario, in general whenver a lib package exists, a corresponding lib-dev
package exists w/ the header files and other items needed to compile
against the lib.

Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 05:36:35PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
 
  Once again i need help. Where is ssl.h! It used to be in ssleay but not
  anymore. I've looked but in the non-US there is no COntents file so i
  really can't find the darn thing. Can someone give me a hand.
 
 You are right, there's no Contents there... (/me thinks a bug should be
 filed against nonus.debian.org)
 
 The file is probably in libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb, in non-US:
 
 $ dpkg --contents hamm/binary-i386/libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb | grep ssl.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root 46150 1998-07-06 07:48 usr/include/ssl/ssl.h
 
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Re: Is the diskless boot possible in debian ?

1998-07-31 Thread Christopher Barry
Well firstly, what is that error in the log file? Can you be more
specific? To read your files on the win95 partition, the command is
mount -t msdos /dev/windows partition device name /mnt (can be almost
any directory you want). For example, say you have an IDE disk and
Windows is on your first primary partition. Type:

$ mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt

If during the install of Debian you added vfat support then you should
replace 'msdos' in the above with 'vfat' so that long file names aren't
truncated.

One problem with your ppp attempts may be that you didn't add ppp
support during the install of debian.

If are looking for some communications software to test your modem, you
can grab minicom. It's a Debian package, find it at www.debian.org.

In general with PPP and Debian, since they made the setup so friendly
the're only a few things that could stop you from connecting that I can
think of.

1) PPP support is not built in the kernel or not loaded as a module.
2) Your serial port's initialization failed.
3) Your modem's initialization string isn't right.
4) Your trying to connect as a user and aren't a member of group 'dip'.
Solution is to do: as root, type 'adduser your_user_name dip'.

If you think Linux is hard to install, try OpenBSD (aaaggghh :)

Good luck,
Christopher



Christopher Wesneski wrote:
 
 I am having considerable trouble setting up my modem to connect to my ISP. 
 I'm pretty
 sure I have the serial port configured but every time I run pppd via pon I 
 get an
 error in the log file. I've read all the HOWTOs and anything else I can find 
 (since
 no one on this list will ever help you if you don't) and I am still as lost 
 as I was
 going in. In one of the HOWTOs they mention kermit and another program to 
 test (not
 connect) the modem. I only have the base installed so I need to know,
 1) what am I supposed to use to test that the modem is working?
 
 2) is it a pert of the base install package?
   a) if not where can I get it and what do I need to do to get it running?
 
 3) how can I mount(?) my win95 partition so I can access the files while in
 Linux (and vice-versa)? It is a real pain to have to keep switching OSs to 
 read this
 lists mail and browse docs online and then try something and switch back and 
 ..
 well you get the picture.
 
 I can see why people complain about the learning curve. It's not a matter of 
 getting
 up it, it's just when you do get to a point where ignorance overcomes you and 
 no one
 is willing to help it gets very frustrating. I'm almost ready to switch back 
 to
 Windows (gasp) full-time.


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Re: Linus Torvalds interview

1998-07-31 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:03:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ever try replacing a Motherboard on a win95 system?

Yes.  In fact, I swapped machines around the HDs to test a theory of
mine.

 That fabulous, great, decent OS loses it's mind! You see, all
 information about the hardware is kept in the registry files. When the
 Id's of the old MB (in the registry) don't match the new Id's of the new
 MB, all H-LL breaks loose. 

That hell, of course, is that Windows is updating the drivers supplied
by the manufacturer(s) for their motherboard.  One reboot is all that is
needed.  I know, like I said, I did it.  Swapped a whole machine around the
HDs.  One machine had Win95 on it, another had Win95 and WinNT.

Am I advocating Windows?  No.  What I am doing is quelling some serious
BULLSHIT here.

 In contrast, Linux boots up without so much as a single hick-up and runs
 fine!

This is also true since I've does the swap of a machine from around a
HD with Linux.  

 You are right, the time is irrelevent, however, where is the peer review of
 the inner workings of Win95/98? I get extremely irritated when an application
 hoses the whole nine yards and I lose hours of labor to the blue screen of
 death. I've yet to lose anything within Linux.  Apparently, the Win95
 advocates think that it is ok for the OS to lock down or freeze. Perhaps they
 are numbed by the inability to fix the problem(s).

Apparently you're doing something wrong.  Because this *LINUX* advocate
has a Win95/WinNT machine at home that rivals the uptimes of my Linux box. 
I have yet to lose data on that machine because of the OS, same as my Linux
box.  In fact, at one time I ran on a single machine OpenDOS, Win95, WinNT,
OS/2 and Linux (Slackware).  I had no problems with any of them.

So, no, I don't think it is right that the OS dies unexpectedly.  My
experience is different than yours.  Wonder why that is?  I don't think I am
gifted with any knowledge that you're not.

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Re: SPI maintains Debian?

1998-07-31 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 Seen on COLA
 
 Message ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ...
 Our work is supported in part by SPI, who maintain the Debian
 GNU/Linux distribution.
 ...
 
 I thought SPI maintained copyrights and the like for Debian - I was
 not aware they were involved to the extent implied by this sentence.  Is
 there information available which clearly delineates the relationship
 between Debian and SPI?
 
 (I'm not (too) paranoid, just confused)
 
It is my understanding that SPI agreed to donate $1000 to the GNOME
effort. I believe that it is this contribution that supports the above
statement. I admit that the reference to Debian being maintained by SPI is
a bit confusing, but my reading of the SPI charter (published by Ian J a
while back) indicates that all Debian Developers are members of SPI.
This may be the reason for the cart before horse statement above. (It
could be argued that Debian maintains SPI ;-)

Luck,

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libXmu.so.6 can't load

1998-07-31 Thread Mike Nachlinger

Hi All,

Just upgraded from bo to hamm. Got a problem with libXmu.
xlib6g and xlib6g-dev are installed. /usr/X11R6/lib is in
ld.so.conf. I've run ldconfig, rebooted, the sym. links
exist. When loading vi or netscape I get a can't load
library libXmu.so.6 error. Any ideas or pointers to
specific docs would be great!

Thanks in advance!
Mike

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CD Creation in Windows

1998-07-31 Thread Dinesh Nadarajah
Is it possible to create a debian CD under windows with the CD images posted
on the web? Documentation discusses about changing the extension to .iso but
my windows box would not recognize the format. Are there any
freeware/shareware apps. for windows to do this?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Linus Torvalds interview

1998-07-31 Thread Christopher Barry
My experience also with Windows 95 has been pretty solid. I've had
months of uptime with Windows 95 with the only problems being occasional
GPF errors that close all open Netscape windows. But other than that
it's been pretty rock solid for me as long as I haven't installed
library type software or big software installations that play with the
registry a lot and dlls. With Windows 98, I haven't had a single GPF
error with Netscape, and pretty much everything I've run under it has
been rock solid and without incident. Also, I removed my 64MB SDRAM DIMM
and put in 16MB EDO for a day so (it's a long story why) and I hate to
say it but Windows 98 ran very smooth on my P166mmx with 16mb, faster
than my very lean compiled kernel Debian 2.0 with bone stock wmaker,
because when I had Netscape mail and a few Navigator windows open there
was little to no swapping to disk with Win98 (or the effect was
transparent to me) but things were not so smooth with Debian
2.0/Xfree/wmaker. WinNT IS NOT SMOOTH with 16mb at all, and I don't know
why this is because it's supposed to be a 'higher performance' OS than
95/98, right? As a matter of fact, NT for me has been less stable than
95/98, as I've had the blue screen of death several times with NT.

I should mention though that I've broken 95' very badly by doing things
like upgrading from DirectX5 to 5.2. Doing that rendered an image
browser the had been working perfectly till then inoperable, and it
would not uninstall properly nor reinstall, very strange behavior
indeed. But of course, taking 2 hours to reinstall 95' fixes that, or
any problem. I now use Debian 99.9% of the time though because it's
so much nicer overall. I'm able to get work done much faster and
it's much more manageable than 95'/98' and has been 100% reliable for
me. Whenever something is screwed up, it always turns out to be my fault
with Debian, which I like.

Steve Lamb wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:03:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ever try replacing a Motherboard on a win95 system?
 
 Yes.  In fact, I swapped machines around the HDs to test a theory of
 mine.
 
  That fabulous, great, decent OS loses it's mind! You see, all
  information about the hardware is kept in the registry files. When the
  Id's of the old MB (in the registry) don't match the new Id's of the new
  MB, all H-LL breaks loose.
 
 That hell, of course, is that Windows is updating the drivers supplied
 by the manufacturer(s) for their motherboard.  One reboot is all that is
 needed.  I know, like I said, I did it.  Swapped a whole machine around the
 HDs.  One machine had Win95 on it, another had Win95 and WinNT.
 
 Am I advocating Windows?  No.  What I am doing is quelling some serious
 BULLSHIT here.
 
  In contrast, Linux boots up without so much as a single hick-up and runs
  fine!
 
 This is also true since I've does the swap of a machine from around a
 HD with Linux.
 
  You are right, the time is irrelevent, however, where is the peer review 
  of
  the inner workings of Win95/98? I get extremely irritated when an 
  application
  hoses the whole nine yards and I lose hours of labor to the blue screen of
  death. I've yet to lose anything within Linux.  Apparently, the Win95
  advocates think that it is ok for the OS to lock down or freeze. Perhaps 
  they
  are numbed by the inability to fix the problem(s).
 
 Apparently you're doing something wrong.  Because this *LINUX* advocate
 has a Win95/WinNT machine at home that rivals the uptimes of my Linux box.
 I have yet to lose data on that machine because of the OS, same as my Linux
 box.  In fact, at one time I ran on a single machine OpenDOS, Win95, WinNT,
 OS/2 and Linux (Slackware).  I had no problems with any of them.
 
 So, no, I don't think it is right that the OS dies unexpectedly.  My
 experience is different than yours.  Wonder why that is?  I don't think I am
 gifted with any knowledge that you're not.
 
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NE2000 configuration

1998-07-31 Thread Cristov Russell
Hello everyone.

A few weeks ago someone responded to my question concerning how to
determine what I/O settting to use to configur my NIC.  In my haste, I
deleted the message which gave the linux command to report this
information.  Now I'm installing hamm and although I remember what
settings I used last time, I can't seem to get them to work.

Can someone forward me the information concerning the command and also
explain to me what's involved in adding the settings after the initial
installation?

TIA

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secure lynx?

1998-07-31 Thread Bob Nielsen
Has anyone made a Debian package of lynx with encryption (weak or strong)?
I don't see anything like this on us or non-us mirrors.

Bob


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Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Eugene Sevinian wrote:
 
 Hi Tom,
 I have read from this mini-howto (point 4.) the following:
 ...(Note: Contrary to what the man page states,
 the command mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdb1 doesn't check for bad blocks 
 under any of Red Hat, Debian or Slackware.)...
 
 Is it true for Debian?
 

Yes, it does check for bad blocks on my machine (hamm) with either
syntax

mkfs.ext2 -c /dev/hdxxOR  mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdxx

of the command, as long as the -c is used.  Not sure I understand what
the author is talking about there.

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Dell Laptop install problems

1998-07-31 Thread Brian Almeida
Hey,

I'm trying to install Debian 2.0 on a Dell Latitude XP laptop with
Advanced Port Replicator.  It gets to 'Loading linux' then
hangs after it is done loading the kernel.  Anyone else seen this
problem, and if so, do you have a solution?  I'm using 
the newest set of disk images off of ftp.debian.org.  Thanks guys!

Brian

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Smail routers error

1998-07-31 Thread litvos
Hello,
I have 2 Debian machines with smail 3.2
Everything worked fine for 3 months, but suddenly few days ago stopped.
When I try to mail to snickers.ek.univ.gda.pl from voruta.ek.univ.gda.pl
I get an error Xdefer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] reason: (ERR164) 
router inet_hosts: BIND server failure: : Connection timed out

The same error is on the snickers mailing to voruta.
It is very strange, because mail to other internet hosts works perfectly and 
worked perfectly to these hosts as well few days ago.
There was NO configuration, or some changing in all system, so I have no idea 
why suddenly mail systems started to do not like each other.

there is my /etc/smail/routers config:
inet_addrs:
driver=gethostbyaddr, transport=smtp;
check_for_local, fail_if_error

inet_hosts:
driver=bind, transport=smtp;
defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames,
gateways=uu.net:uucp:+:cunyvm.cuny.edu:bitnet

Thank's very much for help


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Need help connecting to network in new 2.0 installation

1998-07-31 Thread Ben Turner
During a new Debian 2.0 installation, the ne2000-compatible ethernet adapter
driver installed without complaint, and the TCP/IP numbers were correct.
Yet, when linux boots, it gives the message SIOCADDRT:Network is
unreachable. What can I do to troubleshoot this?
I know that the network connection should be good, since it worked properly
under win95 before I erased it. Thanks in advance.


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Re: Need help connecting to network in new 2.0 installation

1998-07-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Ben Turner wrote:

: During a new Debian 2.0 installation, the ne2000-compatible ethernet adapter
: driver installed without complaint, and the TCP/IP numbers were correct.
: Yet, when linux boots, it gives the message SIOCADDRT:Network is
: unreachable. What can I do to troubleshoot this?
: I know that the network connection should be good, since it worked properly
: under win95 before I erased it. Thanks in advance.

I know you said all the numbers are correct, but make sure the gateway
and your box are in the same subnet - I've seen people subtly typo the
netmask or gateway and go crazy tracking it down ...

You can also run all the commands in /etc/init.d/network from the
command line, which helps with troubleshooting.

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Debian install problem

1998-07-31 Thread Gary S. MacKay
I've downloaded the latest Debian release via ftp. I used my
RedHat 5.1
machine and ncftp to download it onto my Win95 machine mounted via
Samba. All went fantastic. I created the boot disks
(rescue,drivers,root) and booted the machine. Blew away RedHat
(I'm
learning so I keep installing and blowing them away. Good practice
I
think), partitioned the drive and swap space. Now what do I do. I
installed RedHat via ftp and that was kool. I only have a 500 mg
hard
drive so I can't copy it all to there. I have a Sony CDU31a cdrom
drive
which I have touble getting any flavor to recognize. (I was
finally
successfull with RH5.1 tho.)

Question:
Is there any way I can either install via ftp or from my Win95
shared
directory?

If not, how do I burn this image onto a cd that Debian will read.
I
tried burning a cd for RedHat but the EZ software burnt it with
Julian
format and not the RockRidge or whatever it is that Linux likes.
All of
the files were there, but in 8.3 name format, no long filenames.

Come to think of it, even if I get a cd burned, will Debian talk
to a
Sony cdu31a drive?

- Gary





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Debian Install problem

1998-07-31 Thread Gary MacKay
I've downloaded the latest Debian release via ftp. I used my
RedHat 5.1
machine and ncftp to download it onto my Win95 machine mounted via
Samba. All went fantastic. I created the boot disks
(rescue,drivers,root) and booted the machine. Blew away RedHat
(I'm
learning so I keep installing and blowing them away. Good practice
I
think), partitioned the drive and swap space. Now what do I do. I
installed RedHat via ftp and that was kool. I only have a 500 mg
hard
drive so I can't copy it all to there. I have a Sony CDU31a cdrom
drive
which I have touble getting any flavor to recognize. (I was
finally
successfull with RH5.1 tho.)

Question:
Is there any way I can either install via ftp or from my Win95
shared
directory?

If not, how do I burn this image onto a cd that Debian will read.
I
tried burning a cd for RedHat but the EZ software burnt it with
Julian
format and not the RockRidge or whatever it is that Linux likes.
All of
the files were there, but in 8.3 name format, no long filenames.

Come to think of it, even if I get a cd burned, will Debian talk
to a
Sony cdu31a drive?

- Gary





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Changing hamm?

1998-07-31 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
Is all development work going into slink now? I'd really like to get a
couple of new things, kernel-source-2.0.35 in particular, but I don't
want to upset my very stable hamm system with slink stuff.

Seems like for bo when a new kernel came out it was only about a
week or so and you could find it all Debianized up in bo. Kernel
2.0.35 has been out for a couple of weeks at least and still nothing
in hamm. Why? Is this related to the fact that hamm was just so
recently released?

And what are the /debian/dists/sid and /debian/dists/stable-updates
directories?

Not complaining, just curious.

Gary


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Re: Changing hamm?

1998-07-31 Thread Shaleh
stable-updates are hamm bugfixes.  The new kernel will probably appear
there first.  Along w/ other updates.  Besides, you can get your own
kernel source and use kernel-package to build it.  Many of us never use
the Debian kernel, we make our own.

sid is the directory where a new Debian goes before it makes it into a
distribution directory -- like a holding bin, ignore it.  Things like
ports to hardware and what not appear there.


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MCA debian Thinkpad

1998-07-31 Thread Alan Maciel Salcedo.

hi I am a debian-user-wannabe because I have a 
thinkpad 720 4mb ram hd 120mb esdi and I am tired
of looking for a linux distribution that works with MCA/ESDI
I found a web page that have a bootdisk and a modules drivers disk
and a patch disk and have a story about this person and the installation
of debian 1.3 (http://mojo.calyx.net/~bri/projects/debian/MCA/)
with this disks all works until I reach the point of install the base
system but I do not find the 1.2 or 1.3  debian base disks set anywhere in
the web or ftp server, with the 2.0 base disks set that I found in
www.debian.org don't find my esdi hd either so if anyone can help 
me please do it, I am having a bad time here!


thank you very much


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Mouse died after PCMCIA setup

1998-07-31 Thread Kent West
I've got a hamm system. I've had the PCMCIA services and the mouse working
at the same time, but this was several wipe/reinstalls ago (I'm still early
in the learning stage).

The last reinstall I did I forgot to enable PCMCIA during the install. So I
put it on the back burner.

Finally I've gotten X working (minimally), so I decided to download/install
Netscape (via ethernet not PCMCIA modem), and while in dselect, I saw the
PCMCIA package and remembered that I needed to get that also.

After the reboot that the PCMCIA package suggested (because of a replaced
kernel or something - 2.0.34 w/PCMCIA for 2.0.34), everything came back up
except for the mouse. I ran gpmconfig, and everything seems fine, except
the mouse doesn't work (no visible cursor at least).

Win95 reported my PCMCIA modem as being on COM3 (this was before I wiped
Win95 off); my mouse is on /dev/ttyS1 (which I understand to be what DOS
calls COM2) which is where it belongs.

Any clues? As I was writing this, I had the thought that maybe Debian
somehow moved the modem to com2, which is clobbering the mouse. How would I
check this?

Also, in DOS, I could echo atdt555  com2 at the DOS prompt to see if
the modem dials that number, then echo atz  com2 to hang it up. Is there
anything comparable I can do in Linux, or do I need a terminal program such
as minicom to do any manual dialing/testing?

Thanks.
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Re: Trouble With Simple Thing.

1998-07-31 Thread shaul
 Hello,
 
   I'm sorta new to Debian.. and I was wondering if anyone could help
 me with limiting users to their own directory. I've read docs about it,
 but still can't get it working. Anyone help? Thanks.
 

I am not sure but I think giving them rbash will keep them in their own 
directory. It might also have some undesirable effects in your case.

Please tell me (and the list) about your findings.
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How do I mount a FAT32 partition?

1998-07-31 Thread Michael B. Taylor
How do I mount a FAT32 partition on a hamm system?  FAT16 has worked out of
the box for years, and I know there is a way to mount NTFS partitions 
read only, but I havent seen anything on FAT32.  Any pointers appreciated.

Mike


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Re: How do I mount a FAT32 partition?

1998-07-31 Thread Shaleh
FAT32 requires a patch to the Linux kernel to support it.  So if you
MUST do it, you have to get a new kernel.


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Re: Mouse died after PCMCIA setup

1998-07-31 Thread Kent West
I figured out the problem; still working on the solution.

Yes, a person can test the modem by entering echo ATDT555 
/dev/ttyS[x]. This test verified that my modem is on the same com port as
my mouse (/dev/ttyS3).

Then I found the /var/run/stab file; I tried to edit it, changing the
/dev/ttyS3 to /dev/ttyS4, but after a restart, the file had reverted back,
so apparently that's just a here's how it's configured file, not a
here's how it will be configured file.

So, any suggestions on how I tell the PCMCIA modem to use a different com
port?

Thanks.


At 05:24 PM 7/31/1998 -0500, you wrote:
I've got a hamm system. I've had the PCMCIA services and the mouse working
at the same time, but this was several wipe/reinstalls ago (I'm still early
in the learning stage).

The last reinstall I did I forgot to enable PCMCIA during the install. So I
put it on the back burner.

Finally I've gotten X working (minimally), so I decided to download/install
Netscape (via ethernet not PCMCIA modem), and while in dselect, I saw the
PCMCIA package and remembered that I needed to get that also.

After the reboot that the PCMCIA package suggested (because of a replaced
kernel or something - 2.0.34 w/PCMCIA for 2.0.34), everything came back up
except for the mouse. I ran gpmconfig, and everything seems fine, except
the mouse doesn't work (no visible cursor at least).

Win95 reported my PCMCIA modem as being on COM3 (this was before I wiped
Win95 off); my mouse is on /dev/ttyS1 (which I understand to be what DOS
calls COM2) which is where it belongs.

Any clues? As I was writing this, I had the thought that maybe Debian
somehow moved the modem to com2, which is clobbering the mouse. How would I
check this?

Also, in DOS, I could echo atdt555  com2 at the DOS prompt to see if
the modem dials that number, then echo atz  com2 to hang it up. Is there
anything comparable I can do in Linux, or do I need a terminal program such
as minicom to do any manual dialing/testing?

Thanks.
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