startx y los users
Hola, al ejecutar startx como user me sale lo siguiente: clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_virge, s3_svga, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct6, ct68554, ct64200, ct64300, generic Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm. We strongly advise against making the server SUID root! When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. [~]$ como ven me vuelve a la consola, que debo hacer? Un saludo, J. Parera P.D. la nueva versión de XFree me parece mejor (a más crea los modelines justos), por ahora, el único inconveniente que he tenido es que no me ha creado el enlace con el server. Hasta que no he descubierto lo que pasaba me ha dado unos buenos dolores de cabeza.
rev_task en el /root
Hola, para que sirve el fichero /root/rev_task? Un saludo, Josep Parera
Hacentuar las mayúsculas en la consola
Hola, uso bash (cuando me aclare con la hamm zsh) he puesto el mapa es y el /etc/inputrc (las dos lineas que ya lleva descomentadas y he descomentado la otra que hay). El problema es que aún no puedo acentuar las mayúsculas, al intentar hacerlo me (acento+vocal) me sale solo la vocal. Si hay que cambiar la fuente me interesaría no perder los caracteres graficos, es decir aquellos que salen para dar forma a las cajas de dialogo de make menuconfig entre otros. Un saludo, J. Parera
Problemas al arrancar y apagar la máquina
Hola, al arrancar la máquina me sale lo que sigue: modprobe can't locate module net-pf-5. Para que sirve dicho modulo? Si quiero que no me salga dicho mensaje que he de hacer? Ya he puesto en el /etc/modules únicamente el auto. Y si quiero poner dicho modulo que opción debo activar? Al arrancar me sale Starting PCMCIA, yo no tengo ninguna tarjeta de esas. Cómo saco dicha opción? Al apagar la máquina tambien me sale /sbin/cardmgr no such file or directory (intenta matar al PCMCIA). Al arrancar me pone Starting lpd dos veces, que he de tocar para que solo me arranque el server una vez? Al arrancar por segunda vez no da ningún tipo de error (del tipo que ya está en marcha). Al apagar me pone Stopping kde display manager etc, yo no tengo el kde (instalé algún paquete pero ya lo borré, por una confusión), como lo quito? Ya sé que todos esos problemas se deben solucionar en el /etc/rc* pero es aqui donde nunca me he aclarado :-( y menos con la hamm. Saludos, Josep Parera
Configuración de SANE
Hola, tengo un scanner Mustek 800 II SP, el cual quiero usar en Linux pero me hago un lio con las diferentes partes de SANE (su estructura de uso). No acabo de entender la relación entre el saned (creo que se llama asi), el backend y el frondend. Conjuntamente con un archivo de configuración que parece que no yaya que tocar nada. Me pueden explicar dicha relación (lo quiero usar para Xs a más tambien conjuntamente con The gimp)? Saludos, Josep Parera
Num lock en hamm
Hola, como se activa el Num Lock en la Debian 2.0? Es decir que al arrancar es sistema esté encendida por defecto. Y para que esté activa al entrar en las Xs? Porqué no hay diferencia, dentro de las Xs, entre Num Lock activada o desactivada? Saludos, Josep Parera
SB16 y hamm
Hola, antes en la bo me funcionaba la tarjeta de sonido (con el mismo kernel que ahora 2.0.34) pero ahora no me la detecta, ni siquiera al arancar la máquina. Pués antes si la había configurado mal daba un mensaje de error pero ahora ni eso. Que Hago? Saludos, J. Parera
Problemas para configurar la conexión al ISP con hamm
Hola, acabo de pasarme ha hamm y me encuentro con que los scripts de conexión han cambiado, por lo que hecho uso del pppconfig, que en teoría, realiza los scripts (los cuales adjunto). El problema es que al ejecutar pon me conecta y entonces empiezan a salir frases en pantalla que antes no salían y ahora si. Después de los mensajes se corta la conexión (lo he probado varias veces). Les adjunto el archivo ppp.log para que puedan verlo. Un saludo, J. Parera P.D. con la hamm voy completamente perdido :-( connect-errors Description: Binary data no_ppp_on_boot Description: Binary data OPTIONS Description: Binary data pap-secrets Description: Binary data PPP.LOG Description: Binary data PROVIDER Description: Binary data Provider_en_etc_chatscripts Description: Binary data
Tecla Fin en xterm con joe
Hola, al ejecutar un xterm con joe la tecla Fin no me funciona, es un fallo del joe o se puede arreglar? En la consola (el prompt) el Fin si me funciona. Un saludo, Josep Parera
Urgent ! ZED / STED !!
Hola a todos, Necesito urgentemente el editor de texto ZED y el STED con sus fuentes Alguien me puede decir donde conseguirlos o enviarmelos Gracias, saludos. Alfonso Balcells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEBIAN FTP
Hola, Alguien me podria decir como puedo acceder al FTP de Debian ?? Cuando me quiero bajar algun archivo me dice: El servidor ha dado una respuesta no valida o no reconocida. Gracias, Saludos Alfonso Balcells
Re: DEBIAN FTP
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Alfonso Balcells wrote: Alguien me podria decir como puedo acceder al FTP de Debian ?? Elige un espejo que esté cerca de tí. ftp.debian.org puede que esté muy sobrecargado. Puedes obtener una lista de espejos en: http://www.es.debian.org/distrib/ftplist.html El resto, supongo que ya lo sabes, debes establecer una conexión de FTP anónimo, etc. etc. -- 0a3dd5d23335696c88721cb6b7fd7577 (a truly random sig)
Re: Hacentuar las mayúsculas en la consola
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, J. Parera wrote: uso bash (cuando me aclare con la hamm zsh) he puesto el mapa es y el /etc/inputrc (las dos lineas que ya lleva descomentadas y he descomentado la otra que hay). El problema es que aún no puedo acentuar las mayúsculas, al intentar hacerlo me (acento+vocal) me sale solo la vocal. Si hay que cambiar la fuente me interesaría no perder los caracteres graficos, es decir aquellos que salen para dar forma a las cajas de dialogo de make menuconfig entre otros. No sé qué fuente estarás usando, pero con la iso01.f16 a mí eso no me pasa. En cuanto a los caracteres gráficos, si la A con acento y un gráfico comparten el mismo código, entonces nunca podrás ver los dos al mismo tiempo, pues el dibujito que se corresponde con ese código depende de la fuente que estés usando. -- 93573183848dfe7388f96d802b53ff5d (a truly random sig)
Re: startx y los users
On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 06:35:51PM +0200, J. Parera wrote: P.D. la nueva versión de XFree me parece mejor (a más crea los modelines justos), por ahora, el único inconveniente que he tenido es que no me ha creado el enlace con el server. Hasta que no he descubierto lo que pasaba me ha dado unos buenos dolores de cabeza. Enlace? Que enlance? En debian no hay ningun enlace! De /usr/doc/X11/README.Debian: * The X server to be used by default is not selected by changing a symlink. Instead a small wrapper program (/usr/X11R6/bin/X) reads a configuration file (/etc/X11/Xserver) to find out which server to run and who is allowed to run it. $ file /usr/X11R6/bin/X /usr/X11R6/bin/X: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked, stripped $ cat /etc/X11/Xserver /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA Console The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server. The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server: RootOnly Console (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console) Anybody Fijate en /etc/X11/Xserver, y de ser necesario, instala xbase nuevamente. Marcelo
Re: rev_task en el /root
On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 06:37:19PM +0200, J. Parera wrote: Hola, para que sirve el fichero /root/rev_task? Eso es de Enrique :-) Al instalar Debian 2.0, al final te pregunta por el tipo de configuracion que deseas para la maquina (Estacion de Trabajo, Servidor de Red, ...). Ese archivo es parte de las cosas que se usan en esa parte de la configuracion. Marcelo
Re: Problemas al arrancar y apagar la máquina
On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 06:50:25PM +0200, J. Parera wrote:
modprobe can't locate module net-pf-5. Para que sirve dicho modulo? Si
quiero que no me salga dicho mensaje que he de hacer? Ya he puesto en el
/etc/modules únicamente el auto. Y si quiero poner dicho modulo que opción
debo activar?
apple-talk
En /etc/conf.modules pon:
alias net-pf-5 off
Al arrancar me sale Starting PCMCIA, yo no tengo ninguna tarjeta de esas.
Cómo saco dicha opción? Al apagar la máquina tambien me sale /sbin/cardmgr
no such file or directory (intenta matar al PCMCIA).
$ dpkg --purge pcmcia-cs
Al arrancar me pone Starting lpd dos veces, que he de tocar para que solo
me arranque el server una vez? Al arrancar por segunda vez no da ningún tipo
de error (del tipo que ya está en marcha).
Busca en /etc/init.d/ y/o /etc/rc2.d (mas probablemente aqui) si existen dos
archivos que arrancan lpd:
$ grep -l lpd /etc/{init.d,rc2.d}/*
Al apagar me pone Stopping kde display manager etc, yo no tengo el
kde (instalé algún paquete pero ya lo borré, por una confusión), como lo
quito?
purga kde*
esto:
$ dpkg -l \*kde\* | grep ^.\\?c | cut -c 5-20
te da la lista de paquetes de KDE con archivos de configuracion en la
maquina.
(Supongo yo que no hay ningun otro paquete con las letras kde en su nombre,
ademas de los de kde -- puedo estar equivocado; por eso mejor revisa la
lista antes de tratar de quitarlos)
Marcelo
HUELGA 3 SEPTIEMBRE
Hola. Perdonad si este mensaje no corresponde a esta lista de correo, pero creo que es importante que todos y todas conozcamos la existencia de esta huelga. -- Por favor, enviad este mensaje a todas aquellas personas que conozcais -- * Dia 3 de septiembre de 1998 Huelga General de Internautas Españoles El dia 3 de septiembre si todo va bien se va a celebrar una huelga de telefonos caidos. ¿que es eso? Que nadie se conectará a Infovia duranto ese dia en protesta de las subidas de Telefonica, Mirar en los comentarios de las news y encontrareis mas información. Ruego envien este mismo mensaje al mayor numero de personas posible. ¡Por una tarifa plana en España! Y si a la primera no lo conseguimos , no nos conectaremos los días impares en lo que queda de siglo. **
Re: hwclock (insisto) y gcc libc6-libc5
On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 01:04:53PM -0300, Enzo A. Dari wrote: Insisto con mi problemita del hwclock, esta vez con más datos; les recuerdo: el hwclock de hamm me da el siguiente error: # hwclock --show mktime() failed unexpectedly (rc -1). Aborting. Reinstala util-linux, a ver si le hace algo. Cambiando de tema: cómo puedo generar un ejecutable que utilice libc5 en hamm?. Ejemplo: instala altgcc, lee /usr/doc/altgcc/README.Debian Marcelo
Re: Second ethernet card
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Christopher J. Morrone wrote: I was wondering where I should set up the configuration for my second ethernet card. I have two ethernet cards, both PCI and Tulip chipset, which are currently detected just fine during bootup. I set up the ethernet networking like normal during the Debian installation, and it works fine. What I want to do now is enable the second ethernet card. (This computer is essentially node 0 for a beowulf, and the other nodes do not need to access the outside world, so I don't believe that I need any type of ip forwarding.) So I basically just want to know where I should put my custom configuration for the second ethernet card. Should I just add it to the /etc/init.d/network file? Or is there a better place to put the configuration? Thanks! (Please Cc the response to me, I was knocked off the debian-user list because our server was bouncing too many messages.) I put the configuration of my second NIC in /etc/init.d/network as you suggested when I did a similar thing on my own. One was just a 192.168.1.1 for my local LAN while the other is using dhcpc and both are configured with ifconfig and routed in that file. Hope this answers your question well enough. Ehren Wilson
Re: new to networking question
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Asher Haig wrote: [snip] You may also want to get midentd which allows you to set up ident to work through ipmasq. Where can I find that, please? I have been try to do cuseeme through masquerade and this may be the missing link. Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: starting ppp on host end
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: jens wrote, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: oh :) I thought that the script started it at the other end :) Not unless you made it! ok, slowly it's sinking in . . . OK, for the really dumb question: how do I start ppp on the other end on a debian box? it seems to be with pppd to start the daemon, but I'm having trouble figuring out the man doc pages. Actually I recommend using mgetty. mgetty is capable of auto sensing ppp when it picks up the line so you don't even have to log in and start ppp, your script simply waits for connect and then you authenticate using PAP or CHAP. so I merely need to install mgetty on the remote host, and it will replace getty? If you like you can have pppd use the regular user/password database to authenticate you. Having installed mgetty and made the necessary changes to /etc/inittab you can put this line in /etc/mgetty/login.config (my email client might wrap the line but it's supposed to be a single line): /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd proxyarp auth -chap +pap login modem crtscts 192.168.1.1:192.168.1.127 I've tryied a PAP script, but I can't see a difference between it's end and te plain chat script. So let's see if I've got this straight: 1) install mgetty on the remote host 2) put the Autoppp line above in, but switch local for modem crtscts as this is coming in over ethernet by the time it gets to the remote host. And switch to IP numbers to the static addresses for my local machine and the remote (i have a secon IP on the same subnet to use\ for the local machine). 3) use pppconfig to get an initial PAP chatscript. 4) add a few lines aftr connect to handle the network logon and machine selection, stoppping right before the remote system would offer a login prompt. Ooops. Sorry, I forgot that you're not dialing into a modem. No, this won't work because mgetty only works on modems. Hmmm. If you have a script on the remote end which just runs pppd you should be able to just run this. Is that what you had working before? You were using pon? Why? 5) try pon again. I've figured out to insert the ppp shlc modules on the host, but I'm not clear on what else to do. You shouldn't need to insert these modules if you have modules auto loaded. that's my impression too, but my modules don't seem to autoload: Weird. Ok. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMC Ethernet Problem
Hello I'm using an SMC card (EtherPower I think) with the DEC chip, and it seems to be running fine under bo. Did you configure the kernel to use tulip driver? King On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, George Bonser wrote: I have always used 3Com ethernet cards but I recently got a PCI SMC card with a DEC 21041 chip. The system boots, sees the card, loads the driver, reports the IO and IRQ. I get a good link light, card sees and selects the 10BaseT port, but it will not transmit. The card is brought up just fine and the IP, network, broadcast and netmask are correct. After some time, it starts reporting errors like: 20141 transmit timeout status fc6980d5 csr12 0001c8 csr13 ef05 csr14 ff3f, resetting When it resets, I can see the link light die on the hub and come back. I have replaced cables, and tried a different port on the hub. Has anyone else had this problem with this card? George Bonser The Linux We're never going out of business sale at an FTP site near you! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: gunzip - invalid compressed data?
Rich Hartman wrote: Is this a problem with my version of gunzip? OR did I download 38MB worth of corrupted file? Uhm, I hesitate to even ask this, but did you specify binary mode (typing bin at the ftp prompt) when you ftp'd the file? I'm not aware of anyway to convert a binary file accidentally downloaded in ASCII mode, I think data is actually lost if Binary mode is not used on a binary file. If this is the case you will probably need to download it again. Let's hope I'm wrong! Keith
Re: nasty...
On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 07:00:10PM +0100, David Wright wrote: I think that answers all the points raised, except perhaps to say that it isn't in the spirit of unix/linux to prevent you (as root) from trashing the system if you really want to. Of course. But all I did was pick purge in dselect and then run Remove -- usually dselect won't trash your system on your behalf. I didn't force it to remove something essential -- although apt did. All fixed up now, but I was a bit surprised something so obviously bad remains. If base-files contained the devices, there would be no problem, and why would you ever remove base-files? Hence your devices would never be lost. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
StarOffice on 2.0
Does Debian 2.0 install the correct libraries to run StarOffice 4.0 and 5.0 or do they need to be downloaded? --Greg
Re: Windows95 programs and X-Windows
Only if you have an X-server for Win95. There are several commercial ones on the market of which 'XVision' is the best one I have come across. There is also another commercial one that is really good called 'Xwin' that has a free demo server for one machine per network. I got a copy from the 'twocows' site - www.tucows.com (i think ??). It was still there last time I looked. Hope that helps, darryl
Re: bo - hamm, network disappears! [SOLVED]
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Pann McCuaig wrote: Yesterday I upgraded two machines from bo to hamm. The first went well, and the second was fine until I rebooted, then the network disappeared. For some reason the `-net' option had been left off the `route add' lines in /etc/init.d/network. All better now.
ipmasq, winnt and isp homepage?
Hi. Maybe there is a simple answer that I am overlooking for this small problem. A debian 1.3.1 box is successfully ipmasqing for a small home network. The win95 machines work nicely but an nt4 computer will display any url except the isp's home page. The message is 'not able to connect to the server..' . The default gateway looks ok. I can ping the isp's address by name or number. Routing table on the nt machine looks good. ie4.01 is being used. Any suggestions? thanks, -- tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new to networking question
Lindsay Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 8/12/98 6:13 PM You may also want to get midentd which allows you to set up ident to work through ipmasq. Where can I find that, please? I have been try to do cuseeme through masquerade and this may be the missing link. http://www.code.org/midentd/index.html == | Asher Haig[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Pager/Voice Mail (972) 328-9247 | == It was like a visit by Don Carleone. I expected to find a bloody computer monitor in my bed the next day. -- Mark Andreessen regarding the visit from Microsoft.
Clarification of Dselect script question
Subject: Dselect script Recently I read somewhere (possibly on this list) that there is a way to capture what was done during dselect using something like /.../script but they did not go into much detail. Could someone explain to me how to do this? I posed this question the other day but haven't gotten a response that explains how to do this. I found where I read this. It's in the Dselect Beginners document. Here's a qoute: The screen scrolls past fairly quickly on a new machine. You can stop/start it with ^S/^Q and at the end of the run you will get a list of any uninstalled packages. If you want to keep a record of everything that happens use normal Unix features like tee or script. I would use man to read the documention but I can't seem to get it working with the base installation. Can anyone explain exactly how to do this. I'm very new to Linux and totally green with Unix. My thanks to those who replied to the earlier message. :-) Cristov Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.
Chris, well, it helped jumble up the funny critters. s The only thing that works so far is shutdown Hank Using VFP: MS's OOP Production Tool http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fayhj -Original Message- From: Ronn Pimentel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 10:12 AM To: Christopher Barry; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles. On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 12:23:22PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: Hi, Every now and then I do a little goof-up that scrambles a virtual console and I'm sure we all do sometimes but lately I've been doing a little programming and if I accidentally gib a string argument then it corrupts the console every single time so I quickly run out of all 6 consoles and am forced to reboot. The way that I get ride of a scrambled console. 1. Try typing reset 2. Try typing clear 3. Try running top This always seems to work. don't know why but it does. .ronn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in your eyes i see a million candles burning bright.
RE: moving partition boundries???
I checked with PM tech, and they confirmed this. They can recognize and I think create; but that's it. Hank -Original Message- From: Ed Cogburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:37 AM To: Debian Users Subject: Re: moving partition boundries??? Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: I thought I saw an option for this in fdisk along the way, but now i can't find it. Now that I've moved about 40 floppies over by hand (no network card), I've found that if I set up a hibernation file in dos, the hardware will automatically use it. So I'd like to peel back the end of my / partition by 20mb . . . Is there any way to do this, or am I stuck with a complete reinstall if i want this? rick I'm afraid you are stuck. I think somebody said the commercial app Partition Magic can do this, but I'll bet it can only split DOS/Win FAT type partitions. There is no prog in the Linux world, that I've heard of, that can split an ext2 partition. -- Ed C.
Best Way to Upgrade From 1.3 to 2.00
Hello, I have the cdroms from linux press and I was wondering if it would be easier to upgrade or start anew. how much downloading would i have to do? Allan Bart == Allan W. Bart, Jr. Strategic Analyst _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Clarification of Dselect script question
*- Cristov Russell wrote about Clarification of Dselect script question | Subject: Dselect script | | Recently I read somewhere (possibly on this list) that there is a way | to capture what was done during dselect using something like | /.../script but they did not go into much detail. Could someone | explain to me how to do this? | [snip] | | I would use man to read the documention but I can't seem to get it | working with the base installation. Can anyone explain exactly how to | do this. I'm very new to Linux and totally green with Unix. | | My thanks to those who replied to the earlier message. :-) | % script /tmp/dselect.txt Script started, output file is /tmp/dselect.txt # dselect [run as normal] # exit(or ctrl-d) % Then you can review the output in the file /tmp/dselect.txt. Since dselect uses screen codes to move around the screen there will be lots of garbage but the text from the install phase will all be normal. The man page for script is short so I have included it below. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - SCRIPT(1)UNIX Reference Manual SCRIPT(1) NAME script - make typescript of terminal session SYNOPSIS script [-a] [file] DESCRIPTION Script makes a typescript of everything printed on your terminal. It is useful for students who need a hardcopy record of an interactive session as proof of an assignment, as the typescript file can be printed out lat er with lpr(1). If the argument file is given, script saves all dialogue in file. If no file name is given, the typescript is saved in the file typescript. Option: -a Append the output to file or typescript, retaining the prior con tents. The script ends when the forked shell exits (a control-D to exit the Bourne shell (sh(1)), and exit, logout or control-d (if ignoreeof is not set) for the C-shell, csh(1)). Certain interactive commands, such as vi(1), create garbage in the type script file. Script works best with commands that do not manipulate the screen, the results are meant to emulate a hardcopy terminal. ENVIRONMENT The following environment variable is utilized by script: SHELL If the variable SHELL exists, the shell forked by script will be that shell. If SHELL is not set, the Bourne shell is assumed. (Most shells set this variable automatically). SEE ALSO csh(1) (for the history mechanism). HISTORY The script command appeared in 3.0BSD. BUGS Script places everything in the log file, including linefeeds and backspaces. This is not what the naive user expects. 4th Berkeley DistributionJune 6, 19931
Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.
On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 10:47:58PM -0400, Hank Fay wrote: Chris, well, it helped jumble up the funny critters. s The only thing that works so far is shutdown Hank Using VFP: MS's OOP Production Tool http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fayhj -Original Message- From: Ronn Pimentel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 10:12 AM To: Christopher Barry; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles. On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 12:23:22PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: Hi, Every now and then I do a little goof-up that scrambles a virtual console and I'm sure we all do sometimes but lately I've been doing a little programming and if I accidentally gib a string argument then it corrupts the console every single time so I quickly run out of all 6 consoles and am forced to reboot. The way that I get ride of a scrambled console. 1. Try typing reset 2. Try typing clear 3. Try running top This always seems to work. don't know why but it does. Try CTRLvCTRLoENTER -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Installation Problems with Installing the base system
-Original Message- From: Richard E. Hawkins Esq. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hedrick, Brooke - 43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Installation Problems with Installing the base system 4. Everything went fine untill installing the base system (I skipped network config. as I will be using ppp) did you remember to tell your ftp client binary? this will happen if you do an ASCII download, which some clients default to. Yes, If I hadn't, I don't believe that my file sizes would have matched byte for byte either. I have made that mistake before though! I get an error that I cannot read because dinstall is covering it up. I think it says something about invalid archive format. I even created floppies and tried, but had a checksum error on the 4th disk 3 times with different disks. Try writing it on a different machine, this works sometimes. Write the disks? Any idea why there would be a problem with the base2_0.tgz file, though? I have compared the dates and files sizes of what I downloaded with what is out on the network and they match. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: Where is the documentation for C ? i.e. language help? I have a hard time remembering syntax and stuff.. :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If you know the name of the function just type man function Perfect, but I have not got the appropriate package installed, and I cant seem to find it.. call me stupid, blind whatever... where can the C manpages / info pages be found. When I used DO$ to program, DJGPP had info pages on all sorts of things.. surely there is an equivalent? I just cant find the package :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - Jump through hoops? I don't think so. Crawl through Windows? *HELL NO*!! - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: ipmasq, winnt and isp homepage?
On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 06:45:43PM -0700, tony mollica wrote: A debian 1.3.1 box is successfully ipmasqing for a small home network. The win95 machines work nicely but an nt4 computer will display any url except the isp's home page. The message is 'not able to connect to the server..' . The default gateway looks ok. I can ping the isp's address by name or number. Routing table on the nt machine looks good. ie4.01 is being used. Do your Win95 machines use a proxy which your NT machine is not configured to use? Some ISPs block the HTTP port to enforce proxy usage (mine does, because we pay through the nose for bandwidth here in Australia). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: Perfect, but I have not got the appropriate package installed, and I cant seem to find it.. call me stupid, blind whatever... where can the C manpages / info pages be found. When I used DO$ to program, DJGPP had info pages on all sorts of things.. surely there is an equivalent? I just cant find the package :) Well, the 'strcpy' man page is in the manpages-dev package, that sounds like it might be what you want. The gcc docs ought to come with the gcc package. Havoc Pennington http://pobox.com/~hp
Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)
*- Havoc Pennington wrote about Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :) | | On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: | | Perfect, but I have not got the appropriate package installed, and I cant | seem to find it.. call me stupid, blind whatever... where can the C | manpages / info pages be found. When I used DO$ to program, DJGPP had info | pages on all sorts of things.. surely there is an equivalent? I just cant | find the package :) | | | Well, the 'strcpy' man page is in the manpages-dev package, that sounds | like it might be what you want. The gcc docs ought to come with the gcc | package. | Don't forget the libc6-doc Debian package. It contains the info files for the libc library, 'info libc'. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: starting ppp on host end
jens wrote, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: OK, for the really dumb question: how do I start ppp on the other end on a debian box? it seems to be with pppd to start the daemon, but I'm having trouble figuring out the man doc pages. Actually I recommend using mgetty. mgetty is capable of auto sensing ppp when it picks up the line so you don't even have to log in and start ppp, your script simply waits for connect and then you authenticate using PAP or CHAP . so I merely need to install mgetty on the remote host, and it will replace getty? If you like you can have pppd use the regular user/password database to authenticate you. Having installed mgetty and made the necessary changes to /etc/inittab you can put this line in /etc/mgetty/login.config (my email cl ient might wrap the line but it's supposed to be a single line): /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd proxyarp auth -chap +pap login modem crtscts 192.168.1.1:192.168.1.127 I've tryied a PAP script, but I can't see a difference between it's end and t e plain chat script. So let's see if I've got this straight: 1) install mgetty on the remote host 2) put the Autoppp line above in, but switch local for modem crtscts as this is coming in over ethernet by the time it gets to the remote host. And switch to IP numbers to the static addresses for my local machine and the remote (i have a secon IP on the same subnet to use\ for the local machine). 3) use pppconfig to get an initial PAP chatscript. 4) add a few lines aftr connect to handle the network logon and machine selection, stoppping right before the remote system would offer a login prompt. Ooops. Sorry, I forgot that you're not dialing into a modem. No, this won't wor k because mgetty only works on modems. Hmmm. If you have a script on the remote end which just runs pppd you should be able to just run th is. Is that what you had working before? You were using pon? Why? months ago, I was using pon to go straight to an ISP. Now i need to go throught the university modem pool, login to that netwrok, issue a command to go 8 bit clean, then another to telnet to the ppp host, at which time I can initiate ppp. Howe ef, this time I control the machines at both ends; I just need to get them talking. hmm, it must be time to o to bed--i'm trying to figure out if ppp stands for particularly painful protocol :) 5) try pon again. I've figured out to insert the ppp shlc modules on the host, but I'm not clear on what else to do. You shouldn't need to insert these modules if you have modules auto loaded. that's my impression too, but my modules don't seem to autoload: Weird. Ok. yeah, i've just learned to live with it. It's not a big enough problem to spend a day on. rick
Re: Why Debian default kernel is bzImage ?
hi- did you get any responses to your question? At around Wed, 12 Aug 1998 05:42:30 +0200, Robert J. Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] may have mentioned: Every time I pick up a new Debian drop from scratch (ie use the install disks), I have to find the special tecra disks since on all portables I have installed Debian on, the standard disks, being bzImage do not boot. i have a thinkpad for which even the tecra disks don't seem to work -- i have created a custom rescue disk (w/ a lot of help from this list) that works. i too would like to not have to go to this trouble. I also have to take care since after the base install, the standard kernel-image files which are usually preselected by dselect, would render my system unbootable again. yup, me too. At the end of the base install, I must install the compiler, ther kernel sources and run a make-kpkg --zimage --revision mymachine.1 kernel_image and install the resulting package prior to the first reboot. i do something similar -- though i put: kimage := zImage in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf (though i have to remember to do this for each installation). All of this would not be necessary if Debian's kernel format was zImage. Why isn't this desirable ? In most contributions to this list, when it comes to kernel compiling I very often see make zimage or make-kpkg --zimage crop up ... may be totally wrong i have this vague recollection of reading that a patch was submitted (to what i don't remember -- it might have been the kernel) to address this problem and that it hadn't been incorporated yet. if that is the case, then the tecra disks may be seen as a temporary measure for a problem which may go away w/ time. /may be totally wrong -sen
Re: nasty...
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, David Wright wrote: I think Bruce or some other god put together a posting which showed exactly what to do. Here is that message:- Quote. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 13 12:09:47 1998 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 16:45 PDT From: Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, Eloy A. Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 1.3.1 upgrade: getting rid of the package base 1.1.0-13 -- dselect and downgrading dosemu Resent-Date: 12 Jul 1997 00:45:35 - Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown:;@[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and remove the paragraph about the base package, and that will effectively purge it. Forcing dpkg to remove the package removes all of the files in /dev. It's my error, sorry. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 Unquote. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Copying only root directory
I've got a simple question. I'm in the process of switching from a 2.5 GB HD to a 4.3 GB drive. I have my Linux box set up with a 64 meg / partition, a 700 meg /usr, and separate /tmp, /home, and /var (etc.) partitions. Okay, so I partition my new drive with the various sized partitions that I want. Then I mount a partition under /mnt and do a cp -axv /home/* /mnt (etc.) to copy the various old partitions to the new drive. Everything works fine. Until I get to the root partition, that is. I've been through a half-dozen books reading up on cp and dd and various commands and I can't come up with a way to copy only the subdirectories on my 64 meg / partition to the new / partition. I know this is an easy one; can someone shed some light on me please? Thanks in advance. -- Regards,| Debian GNU/ __ o http://www.debian.org . |/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy | / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ http://www.golgotha.net | ...because lockups are for convicts...
Re: VHDL design software for Linux?
On Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 02:04:40PM -0600, Young, Ed wrote: I'll be taking a digital hardware design class soon and am wondering if there's any VHDL design software available for Linux. Open Source, free, or otherwise. I use verilog instead of VHDL, but these links might help. There was a free VHDL simulator project going as well, but I can't remember where. www.linuxeda.com www.jumbo.com/pages/utilities/linux/circuits/ free: verilog mode for vim verilog mode for emacs www.silocon-sorcery.com otherwise: finsim verilog simulator www.fintronic.com speedsim verilog simulator www.quicksim.com www.veritoolsi-web.com undertow waveform viewer signalscan waveform viewer (maybe) www.designacc.com virsim waveform viewer (maybe) www.summit-design.com veriwell ?? wellspring -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copying only root directory
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Randy Edwards wrote: : Until I get to the root partition, that is. I've been through a : half-dozen books reading up on cp and dd and various commands and I : can't come up with a way to copy only the subdirectories on my 64 meg / : partition to the new / partition. I know this is an easy one; can : someone shed some light on me please? Thanks in advance. mount /dev/newrootdevice /mnt cd / find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
KDE configuration
Hello. I've recently switched from WindowMaker to KDE. I never run X from root, its always run from user azog. How can I get kde to read config files from ~/.kde (like it should... with $KDEDIR) instead of all the separate dirs like how its setup? azog has no write perms on /etc/kde, which makes it kinda hard to customize ; And yes, I did 'export KDEDIR='/home/azog/.kde' (zsh). Any Help is appreciated. -- -Josh Co-Admin of California.ZUH.net (Azog) ..and always remember...arf is god spelled funny. -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- GCS d---(pu) s+:- a16 C++$ UL+++$ P+ L+++ !E W-- N+++ o? K+ w--- !O !M V- PS+++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t 5 X+ R tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G+ e- h! r++ y- --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
New User
Im trying to add a linux workstation to an NT network. I have a madge nic tok0 and the base install is not seeing it. any suggestions? Second I thought there was a GUI in linux, but all i get is a $ prompt. I looked in the faq for a while but didnt see anything. SO, here I am. Any help would be appreciated. thanks, sid -- The trouble with doing something right the first time is that, nobody appreciates how difficult it was.
Re: Almost there. . .HELP
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/12/98 at 09:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not using the nameservers isn't hard - you simply type IP addresses instead of names. Instead of www.debian.org you type 209.81.8.242 for example. This works with ftp and lots of other software. The problem is of course knowing what IP-addresses the various names corresponds to. For this, use some other machine connected to the network, and use the nslookup command: nslookup ftp.debian.org This command wil print out something like this: Server: ns.online.no Address: 193.212.1.10 Non-authoritative answer: Name:santanni.cc.gatech.edu Address: 130.207.7.21 Aliases: ftp.debian.org Here we see that the IP address is 130.207.7.21 You could then use a command like ftp 130.207.7.21 (without the quotes) for connecting. We also get the IP address of the nameserver used (in this case 193.212.1.10) you may simply configure your debian for using the nameserver now that you know it and avoid the trouble of looking up addresses manually. The nslookup command is available on most machines and os'es that connect to the internet. It could be missing on dos/windows though. Helge Hafting -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
RE: New User
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 13-Aug-98 Stanley Ish Dunn wrote: Im trying to add a linux workstation to an NT network. I have a madge nic tok0 and the base install is not seeing it. any suggestions? Second I thought there was a GUI in linux, but all i get is a $ prompt. I looked in the faq for a while but didnt see anything. SO, here I am. Any help would be appreciated. thanks, sid What you are looking for, Stanley, is the Xserver. To make it easier, I would recommend installing either XDM or KDM as well (I prefer KDM myself). - -- Jeff Hurst E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13-Aug-98 Time: 01:30:27 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNdKICEiZN8hXvI05AQE03gMAp7eWRJCwHMzcfLlNX6iHXNBgg61sZEwD igUrbIR1XFrtn99We489Bt82UJq4S/95/vQUFBrp9o8zM8qcmULT/p+oUVMoFBAP z+RNkLZ8AGJ8ntDfp4V+ynTID12ueO6c =ZUE2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Installation Problems with Installing the base system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 13-Aug-98 Brooke Hedrick wrote: Yes, If I hadn't, I don't believe that my file sizes would have matched byte for byte either. I have made that mistake before though! I have compared the dates and files sizes of what I downloaded with what is out on the network and they match. Try issuing the command: tar -tzffilename That should tell you if there is something wrong with the .tgz file that you have downloaded. As far as the idea of writing the disks on another computer, it is along the idea that in some cases, the drive becomes minutely damaged thus causing a problem with the direct sector by sector/track by track copy of data to the diskettes. However, personally I would recommend running the above test command on the .tgz file first to find out if, perhaps, you did get a bad copy of the file (Couldn't hurt anything to check) - -- Jeff Hurst E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13-Aug-98 Time: 01:36:30 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNdKJbkiZN8hXvI05AQFg/QL+LXmrFNAuUrz3Y6tiiVixP/W1mV8VwI3k OdYMTxUQkeQ1eAsGzpBQLdlT8XKU5k6nOKaMTb8Ydo3IBZqxHXtze6UDcvcdBN06 5TZLEZA6ImsGlCa6S8/KWeRWNcyM8I6Q =1W4Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Almost there. . .HELP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 13-Aug-98 Helge Hafting wrote: The nslookup command is available on most machines and os'es that connect to the internet. It could be missing on dos/windows though. Just to add a bit of help, I've found that on a dos/windows machine, the easiest way to find the IP of a host is simply to PING the host (since there is almost ALWAYS a ping command on any network computer) and simply observe the output, and get the IP from there. The only disadvantage there, however, is that you don't get the Nameserver IP used to lookup the host. :( - -- Jeff Hurst E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13-Aug-98 Time: 01:41:29 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNdKKmUiZN8hXvI05AQETxgMAjtkcKmZWWJTTVJWE6YPWxzyUhP5c8KP2 fsHKsUof5oQjqJC+MMj3x5pKGWgJy3jXx+sO1X8LHBRt7fOwstsXjmtqj/eVchOr 0IBtATmmnpWcMIrSeRsCCFskJ3cx6Cw6 =H15+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: Almost there. . .HELP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/08/98 21:10:39 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org cc: John Gay/IE/3Com Subject: RE: Almost there. . .HELP Hi John, I have been trying to set-up a PC here at work without connecting to the NET( Boss won't let me : ). After trying to copy the files from a Windows PC via a null-modem cable, I found I didn't have enough room on the hard drive for ALL the debian packages. I've decided to 'borrow' an IP address from another PC and can now ping IP addresses from the net, but I can't get access to a DSN because I'm not supposed to be connected to the net. Strange. You really mean DNS, right? Name resolution doesn't work? All you have to do is to copy the DNS give on the Windows PC that you disconnected to /etc/resolv.conf. Say if it's 192.168.1.1, make that file contain a line nameserver 192.168.1.1 This will tell your box the address of the dns server. If you have several servers, add more nameserver lines. Then make sure /etc/host.conf contains the line order bind,hosts so that your box actually uses the DNS servers. If your nameservers don't resolve addresses from the net, then you could just add IP addresses and names to /etc/hosts, for example 130.207.7.21 ftp.debian.org HTH, Thomas John sends: As you can see, I'm NOT very NET literate. Work uses WindowsNT and most of the info is restricted to Administrator access, which I don't have. I should be able to use the IP address you have given me though to get connected. Is there anything else I would need to know to make the connection work? I used a DOS window to ftp to the address and logged in as anonymous, but I can't seem to be able to use any of the ftp commands like dir, ls . . . I keep getting 'Can't build data connection: Connection timed out.' I haven't tried this from the Linux PC yet, I want to be sure I know what I'm doing before I connect incase someone gets suspicious. Thanks again for the help. This list seems to be the best I have found for getting help, and I've been on many lists for many things! Cheers, John Gay
Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software
Hello again, This is the second time I am posting this message, since I find it really hard to believe that no one in this list was able to suggest a solution. I will be really thankful if someone can help me with this question: I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write them to CDs using the following applications: HP SureStore cd writer software Adaptec EZ CD-Writer Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless. The MD5 checksums of the files are correct. Thanks in advance, Arifi Koseoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED]---BeginMessage--- Hello everyone, I hope this is not a FAQ. I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write them to CDs using the following applications: HP SureStore cd writer software Adaptec EZ CD-Writer Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless. The MD5 checksums of the files are correct. I will appreciate very much if anyone here could shed some light on the problem. Thanks in advance, Arifi Koseoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ---End Message---
Re: StarOffice on 2.0
On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 09:14:19PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Debian 2.0 install the correct libraries to run StarOffice 4.0 and 5.0 or do they need to be downloaded? StarOffice 4.0 works fine on my Debian 2.0 box. -- Alexey Vyskubov
Re: Partitioning....
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/12/98 at 03:26 PM, Rick Smorawski [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am about to install hamm. I have dedicated 2.6gigs to it. I have seen several FAQs and HowTo's on the subject of partitions sizes, unfortunately they all say something different. What I want to know is what is the best way to partition the 2.6 gigs? Obviously this depends on how you want to use the machine! If you plan on having lots of users, put /home in a partition of its own. A user using up the drive will then be unable to steal space from more important stuff. Determine how many users and how much space each should have - then you know how big /home you want. Many like to put /usr on a partition of its own. It can then be mounted read-only for normal use. This is were most programs goes, so make it big! Putting /var and /tmp on a partition may be a good idea too. Something going wrong could fill the drive with tmp-files, but it won't fill outside this partition. If you plan on running a big mailserver/webserver/ftp server/ database or whatever, consider how much space that will need and the risk of full disk (someone may upload a ton of garbage...) My setup is like this: / 30MB (only 15 or so is used when /home /var /tmp /usr is elsewhere.) swap64MB Enough for my use, I also have 32MB ram var tmp 46MB Seems enough for my use. home 188MB More than enough so far usr500MB enough so far, but this fill up as more packages are installed. I put var and tmp on the same partition. This is done by creating a /var partition and making a subdirectory /var/tmp Then a link is made from /tmp to /var/tmp This technique may be used whenever you want to keep several directories on the same partition. Everything in one partition will give the best utilization of free space. It is also most risky if you get filesystem errors. My recoomendation is to have at least three partitions: root, swap, and one or more others for /home, /usr, /var and /tmp You will then have a low risk for errors in the root partition, as most of the action is in the other places. The machine will boot no matter what happens to other partitions, but it needs the root. Swap should be in a partition of its own for performance reasons. Swap size is determined like this: (largest amount of memory you'll ever want) - (amount of RAM installed) Having a lot more swap than RAM and actually using it may not be fun. You will probably avoid such situations, so don't create a swap partitions many times your RAM size. A swap partition is max 128MB If you need more you'll have to make several. You'll get better performance if multiple swap partitions are located on different drives. Helge Hafting -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:57:25 +0300, you scribbled: Hello again, This is the second time I am posting this message, since I find it really hard to believe that no one in this list was able to suggest a solution. I will be really thankful if someone can help me with this question: I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write them to CDs using the following applications: HP SureStore cd writer software Adaptec EZ CD-Writer Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless. The MD5 checksums of the files are correct. Thanks in advance, Arifi Koseoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arifi, we can burn them at our work (we have a Australian Debian Mirror) on a Windows 95 box running a program called CDRWin v3.3E, on a Matshita CD-R (SCSI) using the Record an IS9660 Image File Option, files as *.raw. Works like a charm. Cheers, Corey Popelier Technical Support Officer Q-Net Australia Pty Ltd
RE: Almost there. . .HELP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 13-Aug-98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John sends: As you can see, I'm NOT very NET literate. Work uses WindowsNT and most of the info is restricted to Administrator access, which I don't have. I should be able to use the IP address you have given me though to get connected. Is there anything else I would need to know to make the connection work? I used a DOS window to ftp to the address and logged in as anonymous, but I can't seem to be able to use any of the ftp commands like dir, ls . . . I keep getting 'Can't build data connection: Connection timed out.' I haven't tried this from the Linux PC yet, I want to be sure I know what I'm doing before I connect incase someone gets suspicious. Thanks again for the help. This list seems to be the best I have found for getting help, and I've been on many lists for many things! John, it sounds like you might be behind a SOCKS server or other type of firewall that is limiting what you can get to. One thing you might want to try, is to simply load Netscape/Internet Explorer, and give it the URL ftp://site as in some cases, a network is simply using a PROXY server to allow normal access to the Internet which will only work through a Web Browser (i.e. Apache Proxy Server) - -- Jeff Hurst E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13-Aug-98 Time: 02:20:37 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNdKTy0iZN8hXvI05AQH+egMAktoj88AVGq13BnXdwJFh0HgeHkTkQi2h 3HjoRnpTfzCX7zU2Ag9AUi1aN8txz8CBLEjn7cgt30nHxCFR9Kqha0dV6JgQ7JY2 UL2j/P5XlhMOUVutJHQG/9T5uPvLogjU =GFH4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: Almost there. . .HELP
I'm not sure what type of firewall we have but, I was able to re login to the IP address and execute the commands after I wrote the last E-Mail. I assume I would just need to run dselect, choose ftp for access mode, enter the IP address and then just accept the defaults for everything else. Is this correct? Or are there some settings I should be aware of. I don't pretend to understand most of the settings dselect asks for, I just want to make sure I can get connected, installed and dis-connected as quickly as possible. Thanks to everyone for putting up with my simple queries. I hope to be up and running soon! Cheers, John Gay
Re: moving partition boundries???
I used to have Partition Magic 3.0x installed back in the days when I was using a 2GB disk and it was definately one of my favorite programs. There was a posting on Slashdot awhile back that Partition Magic 4.0, when released, will fully support Linux partitions with ext2 formating, and IIRC this part would be available for free download. Definately a good thing I remember 3.0x would at least recognise ext2 partitions but you couldn't move, resize, play with cluster sizes (don't know why you'd want to do this with ext2 anyways though), etc... none of the cool things PM lets you do with fat/vfat/fat32/hpfs/ntfs partitions. Another cool thing about PM is that you don't need to manually defrag a partition before resizing it. Quite an impressive piece of software Powerquest managed to pull off Of course, now that I have my 9.1GB disk I don't really need it anymore since at any given time it seems I have at least 2GB of unpartitioned space and I keep my disk _very_ split so if I want to move ext2 partitions around I can use the 2GB+ for temporary space to store the files from an Ext partition while preparing where the files are to go. The ability to change the boundaries of the extended partition sure is something I miss though when I had PM 3.0x. This operation never took more than a fraction of a second (unlike, say, resizing a partition and changing the cluster size at the same time, which would take _FOREVER_, understandably). Since the extended partition resize only takes a fraction of a second and the extended partition itself has no formatting of any kind to complicate matters then I suppose that fundamentally all that defines an extended partition may just be a few bytes of data in the MBR to set boundaries, so if that is true then AFAIK it couldn't be modifying more than 512 bytes of data, which leads one to wonder if a free extended partition resizer could be developed without taking too much time/effort. Of course, I think partitioning software is the last thing on the list of stuff most people would be willing to beta test Hank Fay wrote: I checked with PM tech, and they confirmed this. They can recognize and I think create; but that's it. Hank -Original Message- From: Ed Cogburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:37 AM To: Debian Users Subject: Re: moving partition boundries??? Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: I thought I saw an option for this in fdisk along the way, but now i can't find it. Now that I've moved about 40 floppies over by hand (no network card), I've found that if I set up a hibernation file in dos, the hardware will automatically use it. So I'd like to peel back the end of my / partition by 20mb . . . Is there any way to do this, or am I stuck with a complete reinstall if i want this? rick I'm afraid you are stuck. I think somebody said the commercial app Partition Magic can do this, but I'll bet it can only split DOS/Win FAT type partitions. There is no prog in the Linux world, that I've heard of, that can split an ext2 partition. -- Ed C. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Almost there. . .HELP
John You've probably had loads of people reply to this, but better two than none. If you have access to a win95 machine that works on the net (ie can 'ping www.digital.com' and can therefore resolve names) try StartRunwinipcfg. Click the 'Advanced' button and it'll tell you the address of your net's DNS. In WfWG and NT the equivalent is ipconfig /all. Failing that, nslookup will tell you. You might also need to know the default gateway that gets you out to the Internet (but you say you can already ping addresses? Maybe just in the internal network?). The winipcfg/ipconfig thing tells you the default gateway, too. Now, I'm just getting started on Linux, but I think you need the address of the DNS in /etc/resolv.conf. There's a specific file format, but I don't know it off-hand. The default gateway goes somewhere too. There's a place for everything! I got this working on a Sun Solaris machine the other day - that OS seemed to want a /etc/gateways file, but it didn't actually work until I did a 'route add default a.b.c.d 1' command. I'm a bit hazy as to why it should need a gateway and a route (and also whether the route persists over a reboot), but perhaps someone will set us both straight? Regards John Midgley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 1998 21:06 To:Midgley John Cc:The recipient's address is unknown. Subject: Almost there. . .HELP I have been trying to set-up a PC here at work without connecting to the NET( Boss won't let me : ). After trying to copy the files from a Windows PC via a null-modem cable, I found I didn't have enough room on the hard drive for ALL the debian packages. I've decided to 'borrow' an IP address from another PC and can now ping IP addresses from the net, but I can't get access to a DSN because I'm not supposed to be connected to the net. Could someone tell me how I can connect to one of the debian mirror sites without using a DSN? I'm not very NET literate, I just know how to 'ping' and use the '?' command in ftp. If I could get connected via an IP address and run dselect, I could get my system up and running and dis-connect it during a night-shift when no-one can complain. I have been trying to get this system running for much longer that I care to think about, but work won't budge on letting me connect to the net, so I think this is the only way around them. Thanks very much for you help. Despite my current inability to get debian running on my system, I still recommend it to anyone who asks my opinion of Operating Systems, and some who don't ask : ) Cheers, John Gay -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Vfat Long file names
I have edited /etc/fstab and mounted my Win95 partitions as vfat. When I boot into Linux I get a message saying: Unable to load NLS charset cp437... Unable to load NLS charset ISO8859... I can view files in these partitions so I know that the partitions are mounted but I'm unsure what the error means. My other question is about long file names. How does Linux handle long file names? When I try to view a file with spaces (i.e. My Resume.txt) Linux seems to treat these as seperate files. How do I correctly specify a valid long file name? TIA Cristov Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gunzip - invalid compressed data?
Rich Hartman wrote: ...HOWEVER, when I type in gunzip linuxgui8.tar.gz, I get the message: gunzip: linuxgui8.tar.gz: invalid compressed data -- format violated Did you download BINARY ??? On a related note, IF I do get it working (with all of your help, of course) - where should I place the wordperfect directory? Is there some type of UNIX standard for where this type of directory should go? It's only a matter of taste ... my reccomendation would be placing all non packages under a /usr/local tree (/usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib, /usr/local/man etc.) and having the right pointers in your user's PATH variable. Also, IF I get it to work, should I run the Runme file in X? If WordPerfect supports X yes if not you will not need this. -- Robert J. Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIX Certified System Administrator - Debian Linux addict - Win.\* victim Via Sciangai, 53 - 00144 Rome, Italy
Re: Why Debian default kernel is bzImage ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi- did you get any responses to your question? yup, me too. i do something similar -- though i put: kimage := zImage in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf (though i have to remember to do this for each installation). Thank you sen. Yours is the only answer I got ... good to know I am not alone in this Universe 8- Good hint for the kimage := zImage Bye Bob -- Robert J. Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIX Certified System Administrator - Debian Linux addict - Win.\* victim Via Sciangai, 53 - 00144 Rome, Italy
Re: New User
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 13-Aug-98 Stanley Ish Dunn wrote: Im trying to add a linux workstation to an NT network. I have a madge nic tok0 and the base install is not seeing it. any suggestions? If it's a PCI token ring you are pretty out of luck AFAIK 8- -- Robert J. Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIX Certified System Administrator - Debian Linux addict - Win.\* victim Via Sciangai, 53 - 00144 Rome, Italy
Debian 2.0 Problems in Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA
I have downloaded the 2.0 images from 4 different servers now (from 3 different machines in case it was mine causing my problem...) All 4 dl'ed copies have come in ok with one exception... the md5sums are _not_ what they are listed as in the md5sums file... they all come out as a different number but all for have come out with the _same_ md5sum number, it just does not match the one posted Posted md5sum: e25491474227b42f61e4185201f4120b All 4 copies came out with: aed2a0df92ba52878171fb24a911c6dd Can anyone tell me what the beep is going wrong? Are 4 different servers (and three diffrent computers) screwing this up or is it just me? Systems: One: PII300 with windoze98 (ok... I'm just getting into Linux and have yet to find someone in Edmonton Alberta CANADA willing to sell me a Debian 2.0 CD _CHEAP_ , they all have 1.31 but not 2.0 and I have ADSL and a CD-R...) TWO: P-200 (win95a) on Cable Three: P-166 (winNT) on ??? at school (I think ISDN) I am lost as to what to do (I know that I can do an FTP install and then make cd-packages for my friends afterwards but having a bootable CD to work with from the get-go makes life a little easier in my eyes) Thanks in advance (BTW: if someone in the Edmonton region is reading this and you have a copy of 2.0 on CD, please PLEASE let me know :) _\\|//_ (` o-o ') ooO-(_)-Ooo Sean Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] .oooO Oooo. Visit the TimeWarp Tavern at- ( ) ( ) http://www.telusplanet.net/public/swp/index.htm \ (~) / \_) (_/
256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....
The latest Debian install manual when addressing the need of how big you need to make your swap partition says: That still leaves the question of swap space. There are as many views on how much swap you need as there are Unix administrators. One rule of thumb which works well is to use as much swap as you have RAM, although there probably isn't much point in going over 64MB of swap for most users. If you start using that much swap, you should get more RAM. Of course, there are exceptions. If you are trying to solve 1 simultaneous equations on a machine with 256MB of RAM you may need a gigabyte (or more) of swap. If your swap requirements are this high, however, you should probably try to spread the swap across different disks. So I suppose the For workstations the more RAM you have, the less you'll need SWAP isn't true for 100% of workstations, but I'll be damned if my 64MB Pentium-MMX has ever swapped much even with Netscape mail and bunch of browsers open and a kernel compile running in the background. Anyone care to explain why huge swap spaces should be spread across multiple disks? I can understand the need for multiple partitions, as swap partitions bigger than 128MB IIRC won't be able to use more than 128MB of it, but why should the multiple partitions be spread across multiple disks? Does doing this automatically make them RAID like so that writes and reads for the swap space are distributed so that each additional disk you distribute swap across increases your overall swap speed as is true with some RAID levels? If this is true, then in the name of the eaking out every last bit of swap performance that I'll never use I may just hook up an old unused 2GB SCSI disk I have (well, unused until I have enough other 'unused' parts to build a new computer to use it) and distribute my swap across it and my current disk (and mind as well make a few extra ext2 partitions on it while it's sitting on the SCSI chain so it sees more use). Certainly couldn't hurt, but might give me a 1% performance boost .0001% of the time I'm using my computer. :) Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote: Well, give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory (for 64 megs of ram, go for 128 megs of swap). Swap should be a seperate partition. Actually, this is antiquated advice to be handing out. On my Debian system this is what free turns up: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/morpheus}free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 63332 61784 1548 27160 32000 16208 -/+ buffers/cache: 13576 49756 Swap:14328 16 14312 14Mb of SWAP and 63Mb of RAM. For workstations the more RAM you have, the less you'll need SWAP. The only time this machine has touched swap was because of the Netscape memory leak. So why waste the HD space for something that is never used? Also, the 2x RAM rule of thumb is based on, IIRC, BSD systems which map RAM into the swap space so to get any swap you had to make the swap partition as large as RAM and then some. So, for a workstation, the lower the RAM I'd say the larger the swap. Something like: RAM/SWAP 4/32 8/32 16/24 32/16 64/16 Servers, the rule of thumb is, what do you plan to run on the machine and make sure your RAM/SWAP covers it. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian 2.0 Problems in Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA
From: Michael Tempsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13 Aug , Sean Peterson wrote: I have downloaded the 2.0 images from 4 different servers now (from 3 different machines in case it was mine causing my problem...) Blah blah blah Can anyone tell me what the beep is going wrong? Are 4 different servers (and three diffrent computers) screwing this up or is it just me? Could it be that your FTP-program defaults to text-mode and you didn't explicitly state that you wanted binary mode? Nope... thanks fer the thought though... I have used CuteFTP 2.0 and FTPVoyager6.0.02 and WSFTP (not sure of the ver) and they all a) autodetect and set mode and b) I have cuteftp set to default to Binary unless told otherwise...
Re: Vfat Long file names
On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 03:31:37AM -0500, Cristov Russell wrote: I have edited /etc/fstab and mounted my Win95 partitions as vfat. When I boot into Linux I get a message saying: Unable to load NLS charset cp437... Unable to load NLS charset ISO8859... I can view files in these partitions so I know that the partitions are mounted but I'm unsure what the error means. With recent kernel versions, proper VFAT support requires that you have the right National Language Support code/modules available; they allow Linux to properly deal with filenames containing non-ascii characters. (By e.g. translating from DOS codepage 850 to ISO 8859-1 (latin 1)). My other question is about long file names. How does Linux handle long file names? When I try to view a file with spaces (i.e. My Resume.txt) Linux seems to treat these as seperate files. How do I correctly specify a valid long file name? Put quotes around it, or use backslashes to quote, e.g.: cat '/win/File name with spaces in it' vim /win/My\ Documents/foo HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software
From: Arifi Koseoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello again, This is the second time I am posting this message, since I find it really hard to believe that no one in this list was able to suggest a solution. I will be really thankful if someone can help me with this question: I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write them to CDs using the following applications: HP SureStore cd writer software Adaptec EZ CD-Writer Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless. The MD5 checksums of the files are correct. Thanks in advance, Arifi Koseoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, I think you _may_ be making a mistake with _how_ you are writing the iso to CD (Ok, I am assuming things here so don't get mad at me if you already tried this...) To get the ISO's onto CD you have to tell the software to create CD from ISO image. If you just tell it to make the cd and point to the data file, it will just write it as a data file on a (windoze system) Joliet format disk... (which is what I think happend to you...) I Personally Use Adaptec EZ CD Creator but I have used EZ CD Pro In Creator you have to either Double click on the ISO image file (assuming it shows up with the Creator icon in Windoze) and it will start you right into pressing it _OR_ you have to go: FILE - CREATE CD FROM ISO IMAGE it then puts you at the dialog for starting the burn Just look for that type of option in your authoring software and it _should_ work. I had a different problem where 4 copies of binary-i386.raw all had a different md5sum than what's posted... (ALL 4 had the _same_ md5sum though) Hope that helps... _\\|//_ (` o-o ') ooO-(_)-Ooo Sean Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] .oooO Oooo. Visit the TimeWarp Tavern at- ( ) ( ) http://www.telusplanet.net/public/swp/index.htm \ (~) / \_) (_/
Urgent ZED / STED !!!!
Hi I need urgently the editor text ZED and STED with your code !!! Someone can to say me where I can get it . Thank Alfonso Balcells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE configuration
I once ran Windowmaker+GNOME as default, then I switched to KDE, but lately KDE's been uninstalled on my machine and I'm using Windowmaker again but this time without GNOME (which reminds me maybe it's about time I grabbed .25 ;) Anyways, IIRC KDE made dotfile directories for each user's customizations in their respective home directories when I installed it and I never encountered any permissions problems. Data that could be shared between users was put in /usr/share/... (like /usr/share/wallpaper/, a good idea). Also, I never had to add any export statements or edit any config files by hand with KDE. You can do everything from within it with a nice GUI. When you installed KDE, did you grab the *.debs from their site? If you didn't, but grabbed the tarball instead than this could explain your woes. If you do grab the debs, be sure to get the *-dev packages to because I heard some necessary run-time pixmaps are mistakingly/non-intuitively packaged there. Azog wrote: Hello. I've recently switched from WindowMaker to KDE. I never run X from root, its always run from user azog. How can I get kde to read config files from ~/.kde (like it should... with $KDEDIR) instead of all the separate dirs like how its setup? azog has no write perms on /etc/kde, which makes it kinda hard to customize ; And yes, I did 'export KDEDIR='/home/azog/.kde' (zsh). Any Help is appreciated. -- -Josh Co-Admin of California.ZUH.net (Azog) ..and always remember...arf is god spelled funny. -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- GCS d---(pu) s+:- a16 C++$ UL+++$ P+ L+++ !E W-- N+++ o? K+ w--- !O !M V- PS+++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t 5 X+ R tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G+ e- h! r++ y- --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?
makes sense...the more upstream developers, the more exposure debian gets lets face it...when you look around and see Linux Software the first name you see is RedHat and the first package format (not counting tarball) is RPM... And thats the kind of stuff that gives them real presense I've been following this discussion and as such I decided to add my own experience to it. Last year i got my Computer Science degree. In the Univ. we used linux (i think it was slackware). I used to say to my linux fanatic friends linux sucks! Windows is good!. I once had to install linux on my girlfriends computer and i installed red hat. THe installation went ok for a windows fanatic like me. To end the degree i had to make a large project. One of the requesites that i was given was that i had to work with linux (Oh no! i thought). During the first times i had lots and lots of hard fights with debian and if it wasn't for this list i don't know what i would have done. What does all this means. It means that IMHO the natural path for the usesr is windows (until they get tyred of all the reboot's and start looking elsewhere), then they find linux (and they with red-hat, Suse or Caldera, but more red-hat) then they start to see the shortcomings (i for instance removed some packages that i didn't need in my girlfriend's pc just to find out that the whole system was lost! Didn't even reboot)! And this is when they start looking for sothing else and come to debian! Of course some peopledie during the walk (windows fanatics and rh fanatics) but some survive to see the light. See y'a P.S : btw windows sucks. Debian is good! Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf | Agora bilingue (PT e EN) - Now bilingual (PT and EN)
You know, you really don't need to burn a CD....
Sean Peterson wrote: I have downloaded the 2.0 images from 4 different servers now (from 3 different machines in case it was mine causing my problem...) All 4 dl'ed copies have come in ok with one exception... the md5sums are _not_ what they are listed as in the md5sums file... they all come out as a different number but all for have come out with the _same_ md5sum number, it just does not match the one posted Posted md5sum: e25491474227b42f61e4185201f4120b All 4 copies came out with: aed2a0df92ba52878171fb24a911c6dd Hi, I have obtained 100% my Linux via ftp. It really is pointless to do a +600MB download and then roast a perfectly good blank CD when you are only going to use 10% of what you roast and then never use that CD again. Unlike Redhat, you don't need to download 60MB distributed in over 100 files and then edit the RPM availability file by hand to get a minimal base system working. Debian doesn't seem to try to make things impossible for you if you don't buy a CD. And once you get all the stuff installed from the 2.0 CD you are going to be updating half of it through ftp anyways in the near future and you'll be grabbing Slink versions of most of your stuff as well which isn't on that image. My connection is a 56k analog modem. If you have ADSL, FTP makes _A LOT_ of sense for you. If you insist on using the CD image you have right now, if it does indeed not contain errors, then you can at least save yourself the roasting of a perfectly good CD by using a bootable Linux floppy with the loopback device supported in the kernel as well as the iso-9660 filesystem. The loopback device will let you mount the raw CD image on your disk as though it were on a CD-ROM. Good luck, Chris Can anyone tell me what the beep is going wrong? Are 4 different servers (and three diffrent computers) screwing this up or is it just me? Systems: One: PII300 with windoze98 (ok... I'm just getting into Linux and have yet to find someone in Edmonton Alberta CANADA willing to sell me a Debian 2.0 CD _CHEAP_ , they all have 1.31 but not 2.0 and I have ADSL and a CD-R...) TWO: P-200 (win95a) on Cable Three: P-166 (winNT) on ??? at school (I think ISDN) I am lost as to what to do (I know that I can do an FTP install and then make cd-packages for my friends afterwards but having a bootable CD to work with from the get-go makes life a little easier in my eyes) Thanks in advance (BTW: if someone in the Edmonton region is reading this and you have a copy of 2.0 on CD, please PLEASE let me know :) _\\|//_ (` o-o ') ooO-(_)-Ooo Sean Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] .oooO Oooo. Visit the TimeWarp Tavern at- ( ) ( ) http://www.telusplanet.net/public/swp/index.htm \ (~) / \_) (_/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Parallel I/O
I am having trouble with porting a DOS prog to linux, It is used to control a Parallel port interface card, which I bought as a kit from the local electronics store. It works fine in DOS, but now, when I try to get and send info to it ( inb([base]) and outb([value],[base]) ) nothing registers. The control program that someone pointed to at: http://www-ugrad.cs.colorado.edu/~rkirkpat/software/ppc-1.0.tgz works quite well, but My program wont work. Is there something I should do in my program to let the port be used freely? ( Hex 0x378 ) I have the ioperm stuff from the ppc program. Can anyone help? I would probably accept flames... :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 007 System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Lilo, Dos, and an interesting attempt
DOS/Windows will not boot from other than the master drive if there are any visible DOS primaries on any preceding drives. In other words, it has to boot from what it interprets to be the C drive. If you have any DOS primaries on the master drive, temporarily hiding it/them will usually allow you to boot DOS from a another disk. If you don't have a convenient way to hide DOS partitions, try this freeware program, which is also a nice partitioning tool: http://www.intercom.com/~ranish/part/ Tom Robert Rati wrote: I'm trying to setup my computer so that I can boot to Win95, Linux, and Dos (basically for dosemu). I have the dos partition on a SparQ disk setup as master on the secondary controller. When I disconnect my drive on the primary controller, I can boot to my SparQ just fine. I setup Lilo to point to /dev/hdc (which is my SparQ in linux) and installed it. Upon trying different variations to make sure mine was right, lilo installed itself on my drive on the primary controller. I can boot to all partitions but DOS. It tells me Non-System disk or Disk error when I try. I'm assuming this message is coming from the boot record of my SparQ, but don't know why. On the upside, dosemu gives me the same message when I try to use this partition, so if I fix one, I'll probably fix both. Do MS OSes not allow themselves to be booted from a partition that is not the primary master or something? Can anyone help me out or provide any help? Thanks. === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. === -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.
Well nothing seems to get rid of the little critters except shutdown. I had to switch to another VC this time, because something unknown was going on in the first one. It seems to be getting stuck in a different video mode. Hank -Original Message- From: Mike Schmitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:01 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles. On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 10:47:58PM -0400, Hank Fay wrote: Chris, well, it helped jumble up the funny critters. s The only thing that works so far is shutdown Hank Using VFP: MS's OOP Production Tool http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fayhj -Original Message- From: Ronn Pimentel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 10:12 AM To: Christopher Barry; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles. On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 12:23:22PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: Hi, Every now and then I do a little goof-up that scrambles a virtual console and I'm sure we all do sometimes but lately I've been doing a little programming and if I accidentally gib a string argument then it corrupts the console every single time so I quickly run out of all 6 consoles and am forced to reboot. The way that I get ride of a scrambled console. 1. Try typing reset 2. Try typing clear 3. Try running top This always seems to work. don't know why but it does. Try CTRLvCTRLoENTER -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] | | Well, the 'strcpy' man page is in the manpages-dev package, that sounds | like it might be what you want. The gcc docs ought to come with the gcc | package. | Don't forget the libc6-doc Debian package. It contains the info files for the libc library, 'info libc'. Ripper... they had what I want.. thanks :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - ERROR #0001: Windows/NT loaded. Hoo-boy, is your system in for it now. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software
Arifi Koseoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write them to CDs using the following applications: HP SureStore cd writer software Adaptec EZ CD-Writer I really prefer to use Linux to burn my CD's. I don't really like booting into Windows NT just to burn CD's, and besides, I don't like Windows NT as much as Linux :-) I am using the latest 2.1.x kernels, mkeisfs/mkhybrid and cdrecord to burn CD's with an external HP SureStore 7100e and haven't had any problem at all. It works like a charm. And besides, you can do other things with your machine while you are burning a CD (like compiling a kernel :-). With Windows NT I wouldn't take that risk because it could crash, or it could stop sending data to the writing software, corrupting the CD you are burning. peloy.-
clock skew ???
Hi all, I've got a strange warning after make menuconfig with kernel-source-2.0.34. It says clock skew detected. I don't know what it means. Can you help? thanx, Jens
Re: clock skew ???
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:10:47 +0100 (CET), you scribbled: Hi all, I've got a strange warning after make menuconfig with kernel-source-2.0.34. It says clock skew detected. I don't know what it means. Can you help? Your post seems to think it was done in January :-) I would suggest checking your BIOS and altering the system date/time there if necessary. This may/may not correct this problem. Cheers, Corey Popelier Technical Support Officer Q-Net Australia Pty Ltd
Re: [FAQ] Re: Partitioning....
Will Lowe hat gesagt: // Will Lowe wrote: I am about to install hamm. I have dedicated 2.6gigs to it. I have seen several FAQs and HowTo's on the subject of partitions sizes, unfortunately they all say something different. What I want to know is what is the best way to partition the 2.6 gigs? Well, give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory (for 64 megs of ram, go for 128 megs of swap). Swap should be a seperate partition. AFAIK it is not nessecary to have twice as much swap space as RAM. I have 64 M Ram but only 32 M swap and everything works fine - even compiling The Gimp... Isn't this twice as much swap-rule a leftover from old commercial unix days? -- ____ Frank Barknecht __ __ trip\ \ / /wire __ / __// __ /__/ __// // __ \ \/ / __ \\ ___\ / / / / / / / // // /\ \\ ___\\ \ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_//_// / \ \\_\\_\ /_/\_\
man missing :-)
I'm a new linux user (but an old unix hacker) who can't figure out what happened to man, the manpage reader. I've installed a system via floppies and the net (no cd yet on this machine), and can see the man directories and the compressed manfiles (using zmore dumps a page with all the nroff commands in it) , but cannot locate a reader on the system. Have I failed to download a critical package? Is there some other utility to use instead to read the pages? Thanks, Harry Hersh -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: man missing :-)
On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 07:54:05AM -0400, Hersh, Harry wrote: I'm a new linux user (but an old unix hacker) who can't figure out what happened to man, the manpage reader. I've installed a system via Try installing man-db =o) utility to use instead to read the pages? hmmm strnage way would be soemthnig like groff -Tascii -man man_file | most -- Robert Ramiega | [EMAIL PROTECTED]IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate IT Manager @ PDi | http://plukwa.pdi.net/| the power of Source
Re: man missing :-)
Hersh, Harry hat gesagt: // Hersh, Harry wrote: I'm a new linux user (but an old unix hacker) who can't figure out what happened to man, the manpage reader. I've installed a system via floppies and the net (no cd yet on this machine), and can see the man directories and the compressed manfiles (using zmore dumps a page with all the nroff commands in it) , but cannot locate a reader on the system. Have I failed to download a critical package? Is there some other utility to use instead to read the pages? You want to install the package: man-db - Display the on-line manual. This packages provides the man command, this utility is the primary way of examining the on-line help files (manual pages). Other utilities provided include the whatis and apropos commands for searching the manual page database; the manpath utility for determining the manual page search path and the maintenance utilities mandb, catman and zsoelim. This package uses the groff suit of programs to format and display the manual pages. It's in the section docs. -- ____ Frank Barknecht __ __ trip\ \ / /wire __ / __// __ /__/ __// // __ \ \/ / __ \\ ___\ / / / / / / / // // /\ \\ ___\\ \ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_//_// / \ \\_\\_\ /_/\_\
Re: man missing :-)
On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 07:54:05AM -0400, Hersh, Harry wrote: I'm a new linux user (but an old unix hacker) who can't figure out what happened to man, the manpage reader. I've installed a system via floppies and the net (no cd yet on this machine), and can see the man directories and the compressed manfiles (using zmore dumps a page with all the nroff commands in it) , but cannot locate a reader on the system. Did you install man-db package? It contains /usr/bin/man. And, of course, you *may* *read* man pages with zcat | nroff | less :))) -- Alexey Vyskubov
Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: Where is the documentation for C ? i.e. language help? I have a hard time remembering syntax and stuff.. :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If you know the name of the function just type man function Perfect, but I have not got the appropriate package installed, and I cant seem to find it.. call me stupid, blind whatever... where can the C manpages / info pages be found. When I used DO$ to program, DJGPP had info pages on all sorts of things.. surely there is an equivalent? I just cant find the package :) Try the manpages-dev package. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Liran. --- http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/
debian.org removed from root nameservers
Hi, this morning the domain name 'debian.org' was removed from the root nameservers. At the moment we don't know what has caused this. We have sent an inquiry to the InterNIC about this and tried to phone them up. No response yet. As a result you might not be able to send mail to . lists.debian.org . bugs.debian.org . packages.debian.org . debian.org itself You might receive bounces saying 'host not found'. In that case please postpone your mail until this is fixed. Regards, Joey PS: I set a hardcoded route on my mailserver so this mail should go through. -- Experience is a useful thing. Unfortunately it is only acquired just after one could have used it. pgpFwJcOU5y0Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
multiple CDROM installation
At 10:00 AM 8/12/98 -0500, you wrote: Ok, so it looks like you're using the right driver. Are you sure the kernel you're trying to boot includes the mcdx support? Are you booting the debian rescue disk? The CDROM-HOWTO says 'mcdx=io-address,irq' so I don't know why you've got that long string below. If you still have windows on the target machine, why not find out from windows what io address and IRQ are being used? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] according to a document I found http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/PEOPLE/Linus/v1.3/patch-html/patch-pre2.0.1 3/linux_Documentation_cdrom_mcdx.html +If you are using the driver as a module, you can specify your ports and IRQs +like -and so on (address,IRQ pairs). When You intend to use more then one -drive, it's necessary to edit the mcdx.h file found in -/usr/src/linux/include/linux. Instead of providing the values on the -command line, You can hardwire them all in mcdx.h. The command line -values take precedence over the values in mcdx.h. + # insmod mcdx.o mcdx=0x300,11,0x304,5 ~~ I am running the new release official debian 2.0. I am booting from the hard disk. the system is total Linux the system has 3 Mitsumi cdroms FX001D and they all worked in DOS before i installed linux. I couldn't get the system to load off the cdrom. so I copied the files to the second drive and installed to the first. then i ran cfdisk and converted the second drive to Linux. cdrom 1 address 310 irq 9 cdrom 2 address 360 irq 11 cdrom 3 address 390 irq 10 1 smc eithernet card address 280 irq 15 FTP works, cdrom 1 works, the mouse works on serial port 1. when the document said You can hardwire them all in mcdx.h. how do you incorporate that change into the kernel? or does that document not apply to debian 2.0? Richard Grabbe Indiana 812-854-4196 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Arifi Koseoglu wrote: : Hello again, : : This is the second time I am posting this message, since I find it : really hard to believe that no one in this list was able to suggest a : solution. I will be really thankful if someone can help me with this : question: : : I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write : them to CDs using the following applications: : : HP SureStore cd writer software : Adaptec EZ CD-Writer : : Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed : above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to : just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless. : : The MD5 checksums of the files are correct. Your CD software doesn't understand what to do with an .iso file. Get some software that can (RTFM the CD-writing HOWTO perhaps?) I believe that with the Adaptec version, for example, you need the CD-writer Pro software (or whatever it's called). -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: clock skew ???
On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 01:10:47PM +0100, Jens Ch. Lisner wrote: I've got a strange warning after make menuconfig with kernel-source-2.0.34. It says clock skew detected. I don't know what it means. Can you help? Is your kernel source located on an NFS mount? If the NFS server's clock is ahead of the local machine, files created due to make will have timestamps in the future, which confuses make. Hence, it reports clock skew. NFS is the most obvious reason for this to occur; there could be others but I can't think of any, unless you changed the clock (either by hand or xntp/netdate etc) while running make menuconfig. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: 256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....
Christopher Barry wrote: The latest Debian install manual when addressing the need of how big you need to make your swap partition says: That still leaves the question of swap space. There are as many views on how much swap you need as there are Unix administrators. One rule of thumb which works well is to use as much swap as you have RAM, although there probably isn't much point in going over 64MB of swap for most users. If you start using that much swap, you should get more RAM. Of course, there are exceptions. If you are trying to solve 1 simultaneous equations on a machine with 256MB of RAM you may need a gigabyte (or more) of swap. If your swap requirements are this high, however, you should probably try to spread the swap across different disks. So I suppose the For workstations the more RAM you have, the less you'll need SWAP isn't true for 100% of workstations, but I'll be damned if my 64MB Pentium-MMX has ever swapped much even with Netscape mail and bunch of browsers open and a kernel compile running in the background. Wow are you lucky, for some reason when I run netscape it sucks all of my RAM and uses ~30Mb of swap (and all my 32Mb of RAM). I posted a question about a month ago on this but those who helped me noticed some of the same problems but not to the extent that I had. Anyone care to explain why huge swap spaces should be spread across multiple disks? I can understand the need for multiple partitions, as swap partitions bigger than 128MB IIRC won't be able to use more than 128MB of it, but why should the multiple partitions be spread across multiple disks? Does doing this automatically make them RAID like so that writes and reads for the swap space are distributed so that each additional disk you distribute swap across increases your overall swap speed as is true with some RAID levels? If you spread the swap partitons across multiple disks then SCSI can do some 'multitasking' buy telling disks to read or write data while waiting for another disk to finish it's operation. If this is true, then in the name of the eaking out every last bit of swap performance that I'll never use I may just hook up an old unused 2GB SCSI disk I have (well, unused until I have enough other 'unused' parts to build a new computer to use it) and distribute my swap across it and my current disk (and mind as well make a few extra ext2 partitions on it while it's sitting on the SCSI chain so it sees more use). Certainly couldn't hurt, but might give me a 1% performance boost .0001% of the time I'm using my computer. :) Yah, but it makes you feel good doesn't it? Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote: Well, give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory (for 64 megs of ram, go for 128 megs of swap). Swap should be a seperate partition. Actually, this is antiquated advice to be handing out. On my Debian system this is what free turns up: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/morpheus}free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 63332 61784 1548 27160 32000 16208 -/+ buffers/cache: 13576 49756 Swap:14328 16 14312 14Mb of SWAP and 63Mb of RAM. For workstations the more RAM you have, the less you'll need SWAP. The only time this machine has touched swap was because of the Netscape memory leak. So why waste the HD space for something that is never used? Really? What version of netscape do you have, and more importantly is it fixed in the newer versions? Also, the 2x RAM rule of thumb is based on, IIRC, BSD systems which map RAM into the swap space so to get any swap you had to make the swap partition as large as RAM and then some. So, for a workstation, the lower the RAM I'd say the larger the swap. Something like: RAM/SWAP 4/32 8/32 16/24 32/16 64/16 Servers, the rule of thumb is, what do you plan to run on the machine and make sure your RAM/SWAP covers it. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Sound cards
Can someone please recommend a good sound card for use with Linux, (~$30) I know that SB's are compatable but you can't find any without a PnP ISA interface. Isn't there an easier way? Also I've heard the OSS system is, well, crummy. Are they planning on replacing it? Mark Panzer
Re: printing not working
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 09:43:56PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote: I'm trying to get printing working on a friend's new laptop. He actually had it working on his old laptop. When we tried printing first up, it didn't print, and we got the following error: $ lpq Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Generic dot-matrix printer entry' Queue: 1 printable job Server: pid 6836 active Unspooler: pid 6837 active Status: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'Device not configured', attempt 1, Do you have printer support compiled in the kernel? It is a module. When I do lsmod I get: Module PagesUsed by serial_cs 10serial 8[serial_cs] 1 xirc2ps_cs 30ds 2[serial_cs xirc2ps_cs] 4 i82365 54pcmcia_core8[serial_cs xirc2ps_cs ds i82365]0 psaux 11 (autoclean) ppp51slhc 2[ppp] 1 lp 20 So as you see, lp is loaded. does echo Here I am /dev/lp1 work? If not, recompile your kernel and activate parallel printer support. When I do the echo command above it just hangs. What does it mean? Thanks, Mark __ _\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/ \__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/ \__/_\__/--\__/__/ /__To be is to do.__I. Kant___/ \__/__\__/___/ /__To do is to be.__A. Sartre_/ /__I am.God___/ /__Jesus did.___/
Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)
Hi, M == M C Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: M Hmm. I prefer Schildt's C the complete reference. Gack! The annotations are kown to be incorrect; the man even fails to describe the standard he has in front of him. On the comp.lang.c newsgroup, people have stated they can open the book at any random page, and have so far not failed to find an error within two pages. It is a cheap way to get the standard, though. Just ignore Schildt's own contribution. manoj -- Imagine what we can imagine! Arthur Rubinstein Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
xntp running behind
For some reason xntp is reading an hour early (correct time T-1hr). I'm in Athens, GA, USA which is EST with daylight savings nonsense. Could that have some affect? /etc/timezone reads EST. On a related note, where do I look to understand timezone configuration? Thanks- -- Paul Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design Lead Partner Software, Inc.http://www.partnersoft.com
Re: 256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Christopher Barry wrote: Anyone care to explain why huge swap spaces should be spread across multiple disks? I can understand the need for multiple partitions, as swap partitions bigger than 128MB IIRC won't be able to use more than 128MB of it, but why should the multiple partitions be spread across multiple disks? Does doing this automatically make them RAID like so that writes and reads for the swap space are distributed so that each additional disk you distribute swap across increases your overall swap speed as is true with some RAID levels? 1. It is not true (any more...) that the kernel doesn't use more then 128MB, it can use up to 4GB in one partition. 2. Putting the swap in several different disks does make the access time faster, but this is not the issue of RAID. RAIDs are good for their ability to continue working even though one of the disks is not working anymore (the RAID3 keeps an extra disk for parity bits, while the RAID5 does it on the regular disks.) If this is true, then in the name of the eaking out every last bit of swap performance that I'll never use I may just hook up an old unused 2GB SCSI disk I have (well, unused until I have enough other 'unused' parts to build a new computer to use it) and distribute my swap across it and my current disk (and mind as well make a few extra ext2 partitions on it while it's sitting on the SCSI chain so it sees more use). Certainly couldn't hurt, but might give me a 1% performance boost .0001% of the time I'm using my computer. :) You can do that, just remember that if you r computer has enough physical memory, and you don't use a lot of heavy processes (Netscape + a mail reader is not enough), the swap space will not be used, and if your system will have to use 2GB worth of swap space it will crash because of the thrashing... Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote: Well, give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory (for 64 megs of ram, go for 128 megs of swap). Swap should be a seperate partition. This is not true, you can use swap files, and not swap partitions. Liran. --- http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~liranz/
Re: 256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....
Quoting Liran Zvibel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): 2. Putting the swap in several different disks does make the access time faster, but this is not the issue of RAID. RAIDs are good for their ability to continue working even though one of the disks is not working anymore (the RAID3 keeps an extra disk for parity bits, while the RAID5 does it on the regular disks.) You're forgetting RAID0, which stripes data across multiple drives but does not include any error-recovery. Mike Stone
Re: Sound cards
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Panzer wrote: Can someone please recommend a good sound card for use with Linux, (~$30) I know that SB's are compatable but you can't find any without a PnP ISA interface. Isn't there an easier way? Also I've heard the OSS system is, well, crummy. Are they planning on replacing it? Mark Panzer If you are adventurous and wish to try something else than the OSS system there is the alsa system which supports a fairly broad variety of sound cards http://alsa.jcu.cz/src/soundcards.html and is supposedly fairly backwards compatible with OSS applications. If you decide to stick with OSS there is a listing of sound cards that are supported by it, and remember that SB compatible doesn't mean that will work with the SB drives in OSS, although a few do. Hope this helps steer you in the right direction towards a soundcard. Ehren Wilson -- Cooperative Education Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Chemical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Intent to Package kbackup
kbackup is a console backup solution primarily for single hosts and tapes. It was shareware but not it´s GP licensed. You can find it at: http://www.phy.hw.ac.uk/~karsten/KBackup.html Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] KeyID: 2048/E451C639 1998/01/28 Print: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 Hiermit untersage ich die Nutzung und Uebermittlung meiner Daten zu Werbezwecken oder fuer die Markt- bzw. Meinungsforschung gemaess Par. 28 Abs. 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz.
