Re: Inclusión de Debian 2.0 en Linux Actual 9/98
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: Cuanto estarias dispuesto a pagar por una revista (Linux Actual) con CUATRO Cds? - 1500? - 1995 ? - 2250 ? - otra cifra? Quizas pueda convencer a la editorial si hay mucha gente que acepta que salgan 4 CDs con un incremento en el precio, que lo va a tener que haber con tantos CDs. Un saludo a todos Javi Pienso que la cifra de 1995 es muy razonable, e incluso se podría considerar 2250, como propones. Yo mismo pagaría ésta última si viene la distribución completa (3 CDs + 1 CD de la revista). Sería un número extraordinario que iría en la línea de ofrecer lo último que vale la pena (¿qué mejor que la última versión?) de Debian, que parece ser la distribución preferida por la revista, y al mismo tiempo evitaría que numerosos linuxeros tengamos que echar mano de direcciones foráneas para hacernos con el paquete. Visto de este modo, creo que tendría bastante aceptación pues, creo, Linux Actual no es una revista demasiado generalista y los que la seguimos estamos muy interesados en ofertas como la que nos ocupa. Saludos, Pedro F. Pareja
Re: Problemas en X-Window con tarjeta AGP
Burning Ice wrote: Que tal meu: Una solucion parcial :( para tu problema es que instales las XFree86 3.3.2, pues estas ofrecen soporte para el puerto AGP, así como para algunas tarjetas Leadtek (aunque me parece que no la Winfast 3D S900). Otra opcion sería un driver comercial (Xi Graphics, Metro-X) que si tienen soporte para el i740 de intel. Lo malo de esta segunda opción es que atenta contra tu bolsillo :O KA, Burning Ice Gracias por responderme. Supongo que la versión 3.3.2 de las XFree86 a que te refieres será la última que acompaña a la Debian 2, ¿no? Por otro lado, paso de gastarme dinerito en comprarme algún controlador comercial. Así, pues, esperaré a que Linux Actual me provea de los CDs correspondientes. Saludos, Pedro F. Pareja
Re: Problemas en X-Window con tarjeta AGP
Rafael Cordones Marcos wrote: Te recomiendo que te actualizes a Debian 2.0. Lo que es seguro es que no te podras instalar los paquetes de las nuevas versiones de las XFree porque estaran compilados para libc6 y la Deb1.3.1 tiene la libc5. Tampoco te aseguro que las nuevas versiones de XFree soporten tu targeta. Puedes mirar en http://www.suse.com Ellos hacen servidores X que luego se unen a las fuentes de las XFree. Antes de bajarte ningun paquete binario asegurate que no este compilado para la libc6. Tambien puedes actualizar tu 1.3.1 a la libc6. (Mirate el Upgrade HOWTO en www.debian.org) Aunque a mi no me dio mucho resultado y al final instale la Deb2.0 Rafa Pues ya estoy deseando echar mano de la Debian 2 que parecer ser traerá el Linux Actual de septiembre. Mientras tanto, seguiré tu consejo (gracias mil) y me pasaré por el sitio de Suse para ver qué hay. Saludos, Pedro F. Pareja
Re: Re-instalacion
On 24 Aug 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: Estoy apunto de reinstalar todo mi sistema debian. Ahora, mi duda es que version instalar. Quiero usar gnome, por lo tanto, deberia instalar Slink, no es cierto? No necesariamente. En Debian se pueden mezclar paquetes de distintas distribuciones. Con Debian 1.3.1 y Debian 2.0 era algo problemático, porque la primera era libc5 y la segunda libc6, pero ya no: Si tienes Debian 2.0 instalado, nadie te obliga a actualizarlo *todo* solamente para usar algunos paquetes de slink. Si todavía quieres instalar slink, la forma de hacerlo sería instalar primero hamm y luego actualizarse a slink (pues efectivamente, slink todavía no tiene disquetes de arranque). Otra forma de hacer lo mismo, algo más rápida, pero que no garantizo que funcione (¡qué tontería!, ¿acaso garanticé que la forma anterior sí funcionaba? :-), podría ser instalar hamm, pero solamente el sistema base, cuando arrancamos con el sistema base por primera vez, en vez de decirle a dselect que tome la distribución stable le decimos que tome la unstable. He escuchado que lo mas aconsejable es bajar apt, y usarlo para instalar los paquetes que yo quiera. Bueno, la verdad es que no me ha ayudado man porque no entendi como usar apt-get. Me podria ayudar? No tengo mucha experiencia con apt, lo que yo hago es usarlo como método de dselect (cuando instalas apt aparece un nuevo método en dselect que es mucho mejor que cualquier otro método que se haya inventado). [...] Como trabaja apt? baja los archivos a algun directorio y luego ejecuta dpkg? Esencialmente sí. Creo que todavia no sale la version apt para X, pero falta mucho? No lo sé, pero yo diría que sí, que todavía falta bastante. Ya he bajado algunos archivos de Slink a mi computador, deberia instalarlos antes de ejecutar apt, cierto? Si estás firmemente decidido a instalar slink, probablemente sí, de esta forma apt no intentará bajárselos de nuevo. Ahora una pregunta aparte: si instalo gnome desde debs, y por ejemeplo quiero instalar la aplicacion `balsa' que supongamos no se encuentra en .deb, puedo compilarlo yo mismo, es decir, puedo compilarlo sin haber compilado gnome antes?? (supongo que si) Poderse se puede, y si así lo haces lo recomendable es que todo esté en /usr/local, pero es mejor instalarlo todo con .deb si es posible, así lo podrás desinstalar muy fácilmente con dpkg. Otra pregunta.. en el ftp, hay un directorio llamado hamm, slink, y sid, es sid la version 2.2 de debian??? No, es una distribución para las arquitecturas que todavía no han sido publicadas, la FAQ del paquete doc-debian de slink da más información sobre sid, si estás interesado. -- ae82ed556013619733e45c9609c57287 (a truly random sig)
Re: urge: DEBIAN 2.0
Hola yo te la dejo si me dices donde te la puedo dar. Ahora mismo se la he dejado a un amigo, pero supongo que puedo conseguir que me la devuelva a tiempo. Si no consigues una opcion mejor, avisame, vale? Ciao Carlos Rodrigo On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola,, Trabajo en una empresa donde necesitamos unas listas de distribucion. Yo he propuesto usar Linux (en nuestro entorno de trabajo usamos AIX, SOLARIS y WINDOWS NT) aprovechando que tenemos unas maquinas 486. Para sorpresa mia han aceptado...Linux ya comienza a ser conocido en algunos ambientes... El problema es que yo, en mi casa, uso Debian 1.3...pero en el trabajo quiero instalar la 2.0 (hay gente que quiere instalar RedHat...pero mi opinion prevalece puesto que yo me encargare del asunto), y por tanto: NECESITO UNA DEBIAN 2.0 esta semana (el viernes tiene que funcionar) Hay alguien que la tenga, me la copie o me la deje copiar? Es bastante importante, puesto que si el asunto funciona estoy seguro que usariamos Linux para otras cosas. Soy de Madrid capital. Si no me hago con la Debian 2.0 tendre que instalar la RedHat, por lo que os ruego que si hay alguien que me pueda suministrar la Debian 2.0 se ponga en contacto conmigo. Saludos. -- Para BORRARSE, enviar un mensaje a [EMAIL PROTECTED] que diga unsubscribe en el Subject. En caso de problema, escribir a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Directorio /var/cache/apt
¿Alguien sabe si sirve para algo el directorio /var/cache/apt despues de
realizar una actualización de la 1.3.1 a la 2.0?.
He notado que contiene un grupo de paquetes de la 2.0 ya actualizados y me
está ocupando mucho espacio en el filesystem /.
Bye.
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Re: Inclusión de Debian 2.0 en Linux Actual 9/98
Pedro F. Pareja: Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: Cuanto estarias dispuesto a pagar por una revista (Linux Actual) con CUATRO Cds? - 1500? - 1995 ? - 2250 ? - otra cifra? Quizas pueda convencer a la editorial si hay mucha gente que acepta que salgan 4 CDs con un incremento en el precio, que lo va a tener que haber con tantos CDs. Un saludo a todos Javi Pienso que la cifra de 1995 es muy razonable, e incluso se podría considerar 2250, como propones. Yo mismo pagaría ésta última si viene la distribución completa (3 CDs + 1 CD de la revista). Sería un número extraordinario que iría en la línea de ofrecer lo último que vale la pena (¿qué mejor que la última versión?) de Debian, que parece ser la distribución preferida por la revista, y al mismo tiempo evitaría que numerosos linuxeros tengamos que echar mano de direcciones foráneas para hacernos con el paquete. Visto de este modo, creo que tendría bastante aceptación pues, creo, Linux Actual no es una revista demasiado generalista y los que la seguimos estamos muy interesados en ofertas como la que nos ocupa. Saludos, Pedro F. Pareja -- Para BORRARSE, enviar un mensaje a [EMAIL PROTECTED] que diga unsubscribe en el Subject. En caso de problema, escribir a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Estoy de acuerdo con lo que plantea Pedro F. Pareja. Un saludo y por cierto cuando saldra la revista con el debian completo ya que si se demora mucho igual compensa comprarlo antes. Un saludo, David *** David LealDespacho: 10.1.02 Dpto. de Estadística y EconometríaTfno: (34-1)-624 9314 Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Fax: 34-1-6249648 C/Madrid, 126. 28903 Getafe (Madrid) e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jupiter.uc3m.es/~david/ ***
No puedo conectarme a internet!!
He seguido los pasos que decia en la revista de Programación Actual, pero a la hora de conectar dice que no puede determinar la IP remota, en el fichero options he probado la opción icp-accept-ip-remote, he puesto la dirección del servidor :111.111.2.456 y me dice ahora que que no puede determinar la IP local, le he puesto la opción icp-accept-ip-local pero no funciona. Me hechais un cable, llevo varias semanas intentando conectarme a internet con Linux y aún estoy por hacerlo. Gracias, David
Re: urge: DEBIAN 2.0
On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola,, Trabajo en una empresa donde necesitamos unas listas de distribucion. Yo he propuesto usar Linux (en nuestro entorno de trabajo usamos AIX, SOLARIS y WINDOWS NT) aprovechando que tenemos unas maquinas 486. Para sorpresa mia han aceptado...Linux ya comienza a ser conocido en algunos ambientes... El problema es que yo, en mi casa, uso Debian 1.3...pero en el trabajo quiero instalar la 2.0 (hay gente que quiere instalar RedHat...pero mi opinion prevalece puesto que yo me encargare del asunto), y por tanto: NECESITO UNA DEBIAN 2.0 esta semana (el viernes tiene que funcionar) Hay alguien que la tenga, me la copie o me la deje copiar? Es bastante importante, puesto que si el asunto funciona estoy seguro que usariamos Linux para otras cosas. Soy de Madrid capital. Si no me hago con la Debian 2.0 tendre que instalar la RedHat, por lo que os ruego que si hay alguien que me pueda suministrar la Debian 2.0 se ponga en contacto conmigo. Saludos. Tal como lo expones yo instalaría la distribicion 1.3 porque ya la estas usando y la conoces bien. Para temas de trabajo y con prisas yo no instalaría la 2.0. Me esperaría a tener noticias que confirmaran la buena calidad de los CD's. Ya se que hay mucha gente que ya la ha instalado y va bastante bien, pero no todo el mundo distribuye las cosas correctamente. Tambien lo digo porque creo que actualizar de versión es sencillísimo aunque si alguien no está de acuerdo con mi punto de vista que lo diga. Lo que no me gustaría es que tuvieras un mal resultado por las prisas. Lo de las prisas se te nota mucho. -- Para BORRARSE, enviar un mensaje a [EMAIL PROTECTED] que diga unsubscribe en el Subject. En caso de problema, escribir a [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- En caso de contestar a la lista mandame copia personal. /\ /\ No confies en un sistema operativo que se base en el \\W// secreto de sus fuentes. La NASA esta utilizando Linux. _|0 0|_Si Linux es bueno para la NASA, tambien lo será para ti. +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher |Se me olvidaba. Linux | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro.[EMAIL PROTECTED] |además es gratuito. +()()()--()()()--+ (*) Faq de Slug en http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro/slugfaq/slugfaq.htm (*) Top Ten Linux Comercial en http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro/topten.htm
Re: Re-instalacion
On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 01:03:19PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: On 24 Aug 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: Creo que todavia no sale la version apt para X, pero falta mucho? No lo sé, pero yo diría que sí, que todavía falta bastante. Hace poco estaba pensando en iniciar un proyecto para esto, pero mis conocimientos en C son pocos, y mucho menores en C++ (pero hay ganas de aprender) como para usar GTK, Qt o XView (claro que Qt no lo debería utilizar, por la filosofía de Debian), y solo empecé hacer una bosquejo pero en Visual Basic 5 (no me miren feo que con eso me gano la vida). Si alguien está interesado, o sabe de un proyecto que ya haya empezado por favor que me avise. Chao! -- Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dudas
El Mon, Aug 24, 1998, M.G Hola, ... a. el primero es que algunos programas, como el Acrobat Reader, al abrirlo ocupa más espacio que el de la pantalla, y no hay manera de cambiar el tamaño; no puedo acceder al tope de la ventana, y creo que lo he intentado todo. Muchos programas están diseñados para 800x600, y a mi que estoy en modo VGA me pasa a menudo ésto que comentas. A parte de la orden geometry que te han explicado, algunos programas aceptan Alt+F10, y automáticamente se te ajusta al tamaño de la pantalla. Al menos eso pasa con Netscape y el gestor fwmn2, por ejemplo. Saludos.
Re: problema con dselect multi-cd
El Mon, Aug 24, 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hola: Me he animado a instalar con dselect los paquetes por defecto para ir aprendiendo de que va esto. :-) Y me he encontrado con un error en el proceso, dada mi total inexperiencia no soy capaz de evaluar su relevancia.. Puede que no sea nada pero... os cuento que me pasa haber si me lo podeis aclarar. Tengo la distribución de DATOM y he instalado la opción de multi-cd. Al ejecutar dselect me pide el metodo de acceso y elijo multi-CD. Tengo entendido que había que actualizar el paquete 'dpkg-multicd' porque da algún error. Te lo paso por e-mail, :-) Saludos.
RE: problema con dselect multi-cd
Que tal meu: En primer lugar no te preocupes, no es un problema grave. Como muy bien dices , el dselect te pregunta por la ubicación del Packages.gz de local-i386. Sin duda te habrás fijado que dicho fichero no existe, no así el directorio local-i386 que contiene el gnome, el kde, y el mozilla. Según creo esto es así porque los paquetes local- no corresponden a la distribución oficial, sinó que son paquetes que se añaden a esta por parte del distribuidor local (no se si me explico, tu tambien puedes desarrollar o modificar paquetes que tendrias que distribuir incluidos en el directorio local- pues no pertenecen a la distribución oficial) La solución : - indicarle a dselect que no tienes los paquetes local-i386 (contestando none) de esta forma no te da ningún mensage de error y continua el proceso de instalación y configuración de los paquetes seleccionados. Si quieres instalar alguno de los paquetes que se incluyen en el directorio local-i386, puedes hacerlo directamente con dpkg: dpkg -i /dev/hdc/local-i386/xxx/yyy.deb donde xxx es el directorio donde esté el paquete que quieras instalar e yyy.deb el paquete en cuestion. KA, Burning Ice -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: lunes, 24 de agosto de 1998 20:47 Asunto: problema con dselect multi-cd hola: Me he animado a instalar con dselect los paquetes por defecto para ir aprendiendo de que va esto. :-) Y me he encontrado con un error en el proceso, dada mi total inexperiencia no soy capaz de evaluar su relevancia. Puede que no sea nada pero... os cuento que me pasa haber si me lo podeis aclarar. Tengo la distribución de DATOM y he instalado la opción de multi-cd. Al ejecutar dselect me pide el metodo de acceso y elijo multi-CD. Lo primero que me pregunta es el dispositivo y le digo /dev/hdc (tengo el CD como primer disco del segundo canal). Me pregunta por el top level de la distribución y le digo /debian. Y entonces me dice que le parece que estoy instalando desde un multi-CD set y me propone [yes] que acepto. Empieza a buscar la información de paquetes y cuando llega al local me dice lo siguiente: I can`t find the local 'Packages' file Were is de _local_ 'Packages' file [scan] ?Que paquetes son estos de local? ?son importantes? Parece que no vienen en los CD de DATOM. En el segundo disco veo un directorio que dice local-i3 ?es esto con otro nombre? Luego en el proceso Updates da un par de errores. Me dice esto: Running dpkg --record-avail -R /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/debian/dists/local/local/binary-i386 find: /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/debian/dists/local/local/binary-i386 no such file or directory dpkg: subprocess find returned error exit status 1 update available list script returned error exit status 1. ?Que me podeis decir? Gracias =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Un aprendiz NOVATO de Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- Para BORRARSE, enviar un mensaje a [EMAIL PROTECTED] que diga unsubscribe en el Subject. En caso de problema, escribir a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problemas en X-Window con tarjeta AGP
Hola de novo meu: de nada, ha mandar que para eso estamos ;-) (hoy por ti mañana por mi) Tambien decirte que la version 3.3.2 de la XFree86 salio en el CD nº 23 de la revista PC ACTUAL de mayo junto con el StarOffice 4 (que es el que yo tengo instalado) y el Mozilla Comunicator 4.05 [que tambien tengo instalado, aunque no configurado (me falta tiempo)] -Mensaje original- De: Pedro F. Pareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Burning Ice [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lista de Correo Debian Linux debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: martes, 25 de agosto de 1998 1:12 Asunto: Re: Problemas en X-Window con tarjeta AGP Burning Ice wrote: Que tal meu: Una solucion parcial :( para tu problema es que instales las XFree86 3.3.2, pues estas ofrecen soporte para el puerto AGP, así como para algunas tarjetas Leadtek (aunque me parece que no la Winfast 3D S900). Otra opcion sería un driver comercial (Xi Graphics, Metro-X) que si tienen soporte para el i740 de intel. Lo malo de esta segunda opción es que atenta contra tu bolsillo :O KA, Burning Ice Gracias por responderme. Supongo que la versión 3.3.2 de las XFree86 a que te refieres será la última que acompaña a la Debian 2, ¿no? Por otro lado, paso de gastarme dinerito en comprarme algún controlador comercial. Así, pues, esperaré a que Linux Actual me provea de los CDs correspondientes. Saludos, Pedro F. Pareja
Re: Inclusión de Debian 2.0 en Linux Actual 9/98
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a decia: Cuanto estarias dispuesto a pagar por una revista (Linux Actual) con CUATRO Cds? - 1500? - 1995 ? - 2250 ? - otra cifra? Tengo entendido que (al menos en revistas de mayor tirada) el coste de la inclusión de un CD adicional viene a ser 100 pts, según esto la cifra de 1500 pts me parecerçía adecuada, por otra parte yo personalmente estaría dispuesto a pagar en torno a 2000 pts por la revista y los 4 CDs. En cualquier caso una solución como la ya apuntada de poder comprar la revista con o sin la distribución debian podría ser la solución perfecta ;-) -- ===NaClU2\==Ignacio= _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ ( @ @ ) _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ +-ºoO(_)Ooº-+ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/| | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ +---+
Re: Netscape Navigator
On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:02:18PM -0500, the lone gunman shared with us the following words of wisdom: On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 02:52:26PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: The netscape license (until this past january, and no releases have been made since then) didn't allow us to redistribute the netscape binaries. You have to download them from ftp.netscape.com. Put them in /tmp, download the installer .deb, and dpkg -i it. It'll take care of setting up netscape and putting it in the right parts of the file tree, etc. .. What is the file name of the Netscape installer deb file? netscape4_4.0-12.deb -- -- + Peter Granroth + Microsoft is NOT the answer + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + Microsoft is the question + + http://granroth.ml.org + The answer is NO+ --
Re: Netscape Navigator
On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 01:05:42AM +0200, Peter Granroth wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:02:18PM -0500, the lone gunman shared with us the following words of wisdom: On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 02:52:26PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: The netscape license (until this past january, and no releases have been made since then) didn't allow us to redistribute the netscape binaries. You have to download them from ftp.netscape.com. Put them in /tmp, download the installer .deb, and dpkg -i it. It'll take care of setting up netscape and putting it in the right parts of the file tree, etc. .. What is the file name of the Netscape installer deb file? netscape4_4.0-12.deb Is that for the hamm system? I got that file, and it said I need to install libc5, among other things associated with bo. Plus, does that install the latest Navigator, 4.5pr1, compiled for linux with libc6?
New Maintainer submission Jason C. Locke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Here is a re-send of my earlier email. In the time between the first one I downloaded and installed PGP 2.6 and sent my 2.6 keys to public key servers (as listed below). I have also been doing quite a but of C++ on Solaris lately, which is good prep work for Linux C programming. Anyway, I won't duplicate any information in this email. What kind of work will I be doing for Debian? I am not really sure. I intend to lurk around IRC and the Listservs first before taking on any real work. Eventually I'd like to be on the Linux Kernel Dev Team as well. My work phone number is: 212-358-8220 extension 273. I work from around 9:30 through 6:30 (GMT-0500 Eastern US) Monday through Friday. Well, what follows is my previous email along with the corrected information (pgp 2.6.2 keys instead of version 5.x). - -- My name is Jason Locke. I have been programming for 13 years, professionally for about 3. My strengths are in C (but not really C++), Pascal and Delphi (I do know OOP in Delphi well) and Java. I am currently working as an Internet developer (JSP, ASP, Perl.. all back end stuff) for AGENCY.COM (www.agency.com). I would like... an account on master and to be subscribed to debian-private (the developers-only mailing list. I have read and understand the Debian social contract. PGP Public Key: - - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzXSGkYAAAEEALnPfKvtKC6cR2V+5JL4DwjT8txB7IAadBWhwBhar6/xEhGp RtNvkm4OmrwI+RI0VaUbO+zvVuDpnHTCJxuePHWiG1hSXHEfK+O5Yp881uxZEH5e laW/Dh00nxlmcMCC7Il8jPNVBRt/8dFbn6Gm5LJIJVIpA2eYyAKGCtukSVfBAAUT tCNKYXNvbiBDLiBMb2NrZSA8amNsQHF1YW50dW1vam8ubmV0Pg== =k4i5 - - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Preferred Login Name: jclocke (alternates... jlocke, jcl) I would like the email address I would be known by to be my new account on debian.org (ie [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Attached is my drivers license, PGP signed by me. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNeBsWwKGCtukSVfBAQHDzwQAhar8uy+2NAyGMwJZgV8iPEoi/tRl9EnP uSPzEzlO49W56CiIy2vlAZPt4ao9WaPLr/KOM7DJVrPVFGOYb4eM2BNsQi2eBYOQ KV3VG2qe765Bk8+Vqu9yCEBV+itXEorAfrlj8sPRQyRJMqLc9XaqK0Smylrws/pA bXtq6S6Ym24= =yWR2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- License.pgp Description: Binary data ___ Jason C. Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer
Re: Why hurd ? was (What is hurd?)
On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : *- Thomas Malloy wrote about Why hurd ? was (What is hurd?) : |ALPHA SPARC i386HURD : |Which one of these things is not like the other? : | : | Since hurd is an operating system and not an architecture why does debian release packages for it. : | I thought DEBIAN was a distribution of linux, which runs on various hardware platforms. I have no : | objection to the hurd project. It is quite worth while on its own merits, but what does it have to do : | with linux or debian? : | : : The Hurd is a kernel not an OS. My take on this is that Debian is a : collection of apps and their philosophy of package managment and the : DFSG. The real name of Debian is 'Debian GNU/Linux', with the Hurd : kernel it will just be 'Debian GNU/Hurd' but all the top level will be : the same. The package managment the DFSG, etc will be identical. In fact, it's conceivable that there could be a Debian GNU/blah release for any system blah, though the non-freeness of many of those systems makes that unlikely. Imagine Debian GNU/FreeBSD ... that would send some people straight over the edge. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: boot probs with aic7xxx driver... urgent...
Check your cables. A similar problem on one of my systems was caused by a bent pin on an external scsi cable. Mike On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 12:47:08PM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: Hi folks. We've a shiny new server and the resc1440 image from the current diskset is freezing on boot while downloading sequencer code ... 413 instructions loaded ... It's an Adaptec AIC 7880... Please, if anyone has an idea, please tell me. Please always cc me on replies... Thanks, Alexander
QUESTION
HI :-) CAN I RUN PROGRAMS FOR WN95 ON LYNUX LIKE AUTOCAD 14
sendmail / .forward / executables ???
I've got an aliase setup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that's supposed to filter all mail through a custom filter. I have a one-line .forward file: /home/vote/bin/test.sh test.sh consists of two lines #!/bin/bash cat test sendmail uses /bin/sh as it's mail shell and -r is NOT turned on... so... why does the mail get bounced with the following respone:? 550 /home/debian-vote/.forward: line 2: /home/vote/bin/test.sh... Can't create output: Executable files not allowed -- http://benham.net/index.html -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++ P+++$ L++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b DI+++ D++ G++G+++ e h+ r* y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- --
Re: Netscape Navigator
*- the lone gunman wrote about Re: Netscape Navigator | On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 01:05:42AM +0200, Peter Granroth wrote: | On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:02:18PM -0500, the lone gunman shared with us the following words of wisdom: | On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 02:52:26PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: |The netscape license (until this past january, and no releases have been |made since then) didn't allow us to redistribute the netscape binaries. |You have to download them from ftp.netscape.com. Put them in /tmp, |download the installer .deb, and dpkg -i it. It'll take care of setting |up netscape and putting it in the right parts of the file tree, etc. .. | | What is the file name of the Netscape installer deb file? | | netscape4_4.0-12.deb | | Is that for the hamm system? I got that file, and it said I need to | install libc5, among other things associated with bo. | Yes it is for hamm. It actually wants the following: Depends: motifnls, ldso (= 1.9.7-0), libc5 (= 5.4.0-0), libc6, libg++27 (= 2.7.2.1-1), xlib6 (= 3.3-0), xpm4.7 (= 3.4j-0) | Plus, does that install the latest Navigator, 4.5pr1, compiled for | linux with libc6? | I installed 4.5pr1 with the installer and it worked without a hitch. It matches the tarball against the wildcards of communicator-v4*.x86-*-linux*.tar*, and navigator-v4*.x86-*-linux*.tar* So any valid netscape tarball that fits those shell expansions will install. That is if the tarball's file structure is as expected. Note that libc5 plugins will crash 4.5pr1 when called! -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: QUESTION
On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 04:47:30PM -0700, Dimas Franco wrote: HI :-) CAN I RUN PROGRAMS FOR WN95 ON LYNUX LIKE AUTOCAD 14 Hmm okthe short answer is NO...but fear not :) There is a DOS emulator for DOS programs and there is WINE (Wine Is Not and Emulator ;) ) which impliments the Windows API for Linux AND has the ability to run Windows executables. Many Windows programs work under WINE many don'tI don't know if Autocad does or not but... It is possible to get CAD programs for Linux. You have to look aroundwho knows...maybe someday... AutoCad for Linux? maybe? :) hmm what company puts out AutoCAD? -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux pgpbiIRYRJT52.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: telnet break-in
On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: Hi, telnet ftp login exec finger shell ...you get the idea... And dont forget the r services ... rlogin, rsh, rexec, etc. Yep, the r services are covered by login, exec and shell. Here is what inetd.conf has to say: shell stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rshd login stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rlogind exec stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rexecd Interesting ... after reading the above messages, I decided to check out my /var/log files and found a whole suite of in.telnetd[XXX]: connect statements. Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first woman she meets and then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again. - TV listing for the Wizard of Oz in the Marin Independent Journal
where is NNTPSERVER variable set?
I moved back to school, and now must use a different news server than the one I used at home. Where do I change where the NNTPSERVER environment variable is originally initialized? Changing /etc/nntpserver doesn't seem to do it. Thanks
Re: Fetchmail.
*- Tony Schonfeld wrote about Fetchmail. | Please can i have an example to use fetchmail running from root | to retrieve a mail from a pop server and forward it to my | local smtp server ? I run fetchmail out of ip-up as the unprivileged user 'postman', and then feed it to mailagent for sorting and delivery. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: [pppd] error: link not 8-bit clean
Martin writes: You should ask their tech support. This is an important issue to know when setting up a dial-in connection. Yes, but if they offer you a set of scripts for Linux, don't install them: just use them for reference. Some isp's are passing out wacky Slackware-style scripts that will work only with old versions of pppd, if at all. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Xterm color
Hi, I'm having trouble with color support in xterm. At the moment I am running xterm with the terminfo as xterm, which seems to disable all color support (although ls --color still works ?). When I mean color support I'm talking about programs such as mutt and dselect. When I change terminfo to xterm-debian I get color support on my local machine, but when I connect to another machine (also debian 2.0) color still doesn't work in mutt (although I now does in dselect). I am connecting via ssh (although I tried with telnet as well). Is anyone able to explain this behaviour? Can anyone tell me how to make it work properly?? Also, I'd prefer not to use xterm-debian, as whenever I connect to uni machines I get the message Sorry, I don't know anything about your xterm-debian terminal whenever I try and run anything like vi, etc. Is there any advantage to xterm-debian (and anyway to make it more seamless?) Thanks for any assistance, Chris Leishman --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! --- Reply with subject 'key' for PGP public key. KeyID A9E087D5
pine pgp?
Hi again, Does anyone know if pinepgp can recognise mutt style pgp signatures? Thanks, Chris --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! --- Reply with subject 'key' for PGP public key. KeyID A9E087D5
Re: where is NNTPSERVER variable set?
On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 07:50:22PM -0500, the lone gunman shared with us the following words of wisdom: I moved back to school, and now must use a different news server than the one I used at home. Where do I change where the NNTPSERVER environment variable is originally initialized? Changing /etc/nntpserver doesn't seem to do it. Thanks since you didn't tell what shell you use, I'll assume bash. the global configuration files are /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc, and personal config files are ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc. For more info on how bash uses these files, chek out the Invocation section in the bash man page. In your casse, simply put the following line in /etc/profile: export NNTPSERVER=put.your.newsserver.here HTH -- -- + Peter Granroth + Microsoft is NOT the answer + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + Microsoft is the question + + http://granroth.ml.org + The answer is NO+ --
Re: where is NNTPSERVER variable set?
On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Peter Granroth wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 07:50:22PM -0500, the lone gunman shared with us the following words of wisdom: I moved back to school, and now must use a different news server than the one I used at home. Where do I change where the NNTPSERVER environment variable is originally initialized? Changing /etc/nntpserver doesn't seem to do it. Thanks since you didn't tell what shell you use, I'll assume bash. the global configuration files are /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc, and personal config files are ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc. For more info on how bash uses these files, chek out the Invocation section in the bash man page. In your casse, simply put the following line in /etc/profile: I thought it was read from /etc/news/server? Unless that is trn specific, that is where mine is set. Cheers. -- Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.telmer.com
FYI
Picked up some reading material for a flight to New Brunswick. Found a great article on Linux. This really demonstrates the power of knowledge sharing. Should have been a case study at the big knowledge management summit in San Diego earlier this year. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/98/0810/6209094a.htm Peter BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Iannarelli;Peter FN:Peter Iannarelli ORG:GenX Internet Laboratories TITLE:Engineer TEL;WORK;VOICE:1+ 416-929-1885 TEL;WORK;FAX:1+416-929-1056 ADR;WORK:;Madison;20 Madison Ave.;Toronto;Ontario;;Canada LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Madison=0D=0A20 Madison Ave.=0D=0AToronto, Ontario=0D=0ACanada URL: URL:http://www.genxl.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19980825T013220Z END:VCARD
HP Vectra/HP LAN adapter problem
Greetings, all: Here's the scenario: Intalled an older (ISA) HP LAN adapter in an HP Vectra 5/133, then installed Debian 2.0 from CD. During setup, when I went install the hp.o module into the kernel during drivers setup, it barked at me device or resource busy. Neither the I/O range (0x300 - 0x31f) nor the interrupt (irq5) is in use by anything else in the box, and the adapter is the only card in any expansion slot. I went on and finished the installation, then modified /etc/conf.modules by adding: alias eth0 hp options eth0 io=0x300 irq=5 then tried: modprobe eth0 which barked device or resource busy. dmesg says there is no card at 0x300, but scanport says there is. /proc/interrupts doesn't indicate anyone on IRQ5, and nothing appears hung as though there is an IRQ contention -- but I tried changing it to 9 just in case... same thing. The hpncset utility shows the configuration I had in mind, and both card test and link test indicate that the thing is functioning. I tried running modconf again after checking this, still device or resource busy. I had the same problem with an Intel EtherExpress PRO/10+ card and the eepro100.o driver. Has anyone been down this road before who can tell me how to either work around a Vectra-ism or pull my head out? (I'd rather trash the Vectra, but since it's destined to be an intranet web server at an HP site, I don't have much choice!) Thanks in advance! -- Art - Welcome to Planet Earth. Enter at your own risk. This product comes with absolutely no warranty!
HELP: Problems Installing Cheap*Bytes CD
I am attempting to install Debian onto a 600mb hard drive, which is the third drive on my system. I am running Windows 98 on drive C: A:\ floppy C:\ hard drive D:\ secondary E:\ cd F:\ tertiary I boot the pc into DOS mode to run the install.bat file off the CD. It allows me to partition the hard drive. However, when I get to the point to install the system I get the following error: /floppy/type.txt: Invalid Arguement I am booting the PC with a minimum autoexec and config. Just enough to allow the CD device driver to install. I am not installing an upgrade. This is a new install of Debian 2.0 onto its own hard drive. I plan to use a boot menu, if I ever get this installed. Please help, Thanks, Denis dePierro
Re: QUESTION
*- Stephen J. Carpenter wrote about Re: QUESTION | On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 04:47:30PM -0700, Dimas Franco wrote: | HI :-) CAN I RUN PROGRAMS FOR WN95 ON LYNUX LIKE AUTOCAD 14 | | Hmm okthe short answer is NO...but fear not :) | | There is a DOS emulator for DOS programs and there is WINE | (Wine Is Not and Emulator ;) ) which impliments the Windows API | for Linux AND has the ability to run Windows executables. | | Many Windows programs work under WINE many don'tI don't know if Autocad | does or not but... | It is possible to get CAD programs for Linux. You have to look | aroundwho knows...maybe someday... | AutoCad for Linux? maybe? :) Not likely. A quote from http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/td16/td165384.htm, While Autodesk no longer develops Unix applications Booo! Previously they had versions on AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, and SOLARIS. | | hmm what company puts out AutoCAD? | See above. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: help w/ ethernet (with a dash of ppp)
Martin Bialasinski wrote: Did you also add a routing entry for the subnet? route add -net 192.168.3.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 route -n should show a line like 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 I was told that 2.1.x adds route entries for you. I did add one on the 2.0.x machine.
Re: QUESTION
On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 09:55:10PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- Stephen J. Carpenter wrote about Re: QUESTION | On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 04:47:30PM -0700, Dimas Franco wrote: | HI :-) CAN I RUN PROGRAMS FOR WN95 ON LYNUX LIKE AUTOCAD 14 | | Hmm okthe short answer is NO...but fear not :) | | There is a DOS emulator for DOS programs and there is WINE | (Wine Is Not and Emulator ;) ) which impliments the Windows API | for Linux AND has the ability to run Windows executables. | | Many Windows programs work under WINE many don'tI don't know if Autocad | does or not but... | It is possible to get CAD programs for Linux. You have to look | aroundwho knows...maybe someday... | AutoCad for Linux? maybe? :) Not likely. A quote from http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/td16/td165384.htm, While Autodesk no longer develops Unix applications Booo! Previously they had versions on AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, and SOLARIS. Well...they can always change their minds and change that to: While Autodesk no longer develops Windows applications :) They will develop where the money is ;) and who knows...with all the press Linux is starting to get and all... maybe? hey it could happen CourseI wouldn't hold my breath Then again...I don't need CAD...tho I could use something better than xcircuit for drawing circuits -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
Re: QUESTION
On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:19:29 EDT, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 04:47:30PM -0700, Dimas Franco wrote: HI :-) CAN I RUN PROGRAMS FOR WN95 ON LYNUX LIKE AUTOCAD 14 [..] It is possible to get CAD programs for Linux. [..] I don't know if all these links are current, and also please be warned that some are $hareware, some are commercial, at least one is only in the concept stage of development, and one or two are just toolkits and not full-fledged apps. The open source (free) contender to autocad will probably be FreeDesigner, however it is still pre-alpha. I think MicroStation, BRL and one or both of the V's are commercial autocad contenders for Linux. angela! Graphs, Diagrams http://www.mpi-sb.mpg.de/~pabst/angela/ BRL-CAD® modeling http://web.arl.mil:80/software/brlcad/ daVinci Graph Vis. Sys. http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~davinci/ EnvDraw Prog. Diagrams http://www.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/~jmacd/envdraw.htm l ivtools frameworks for drawing ed. http://www.vectaport.com/ivtools/ FreeDesigner (OpenDesigner) http://www.fpa-engineers.com/OD/ FREEdraft2D http://pw2.netcom.com/~iamcliff/FREEdraft.html MicroStation http://www.bentley.com/products/microstation95/ PadDraw http://www.cs.unm.edu/pad++/paddraw/paddraw.html Scientific Applications on Linux http://SAL.KachinaTech.COM/ Sunsite Graphics Apps http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/! INDEX.html Tgif Drawing Tool http://bourbon.cs.umd.edu:8001/tgif/ Toolkit for Conceptual Modeling http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tcm/ VARIMETRIX http://www.vx.com/ Varkon http://www.microform.se/dl_linux.htm --
Running program at boot time
I try to run some program at the machine boot up, and put the program lines in rc.local. But it doesn't work. Hope anyone can help
Re: Running program at boot time
Xiaolin Wang wrote: I try to run some program at the machine boot up, and put the program lines in rc.local. But it doesn't work. Hope anyone can help -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null rc.local is used on BSD style boots. Debian uses a sysv style boot process. Where to put it depends on what it is. /etc/rc.boot is a good start. Any script in here is ran at boot. Another option is to put a script in /etc/init.d. You then put a symlink to this script in rc?.d where ? is the runlevel. 2-5 is the user run levels. 2 is the default. So a link in rc2.d will be run right before you get a login prompt.
Re: [pppd] error: link not 8-bit clean
Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This usually means that the chat script is exiting without having provided the other end with everything it needs. Dial in with minicom and work through the login until you get the garbage that indicates that ppp has started on the other end. Then use your notes to answer pppconfig's questions. Send me the error messages (they are in /var/log/ppp.log) and copies of /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider and I will try to help you. Attaching 3 files to this email. 1. pap (the log and various scripts) 2. chat (the log and various scripts) 3. hyper-term (What happens when I actually dial in using hyperterminal) So what is happening? Help would be greatly appreciated. S. ---PAP--- /var/log/messages - Aug 24 18:58:54 cabrio pppd[1253]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 Aug 24 18:58:55 cabrio chat[1254]: abort on (BUSY) Aug 24 18:58:55 cabrio chat[1254]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Aug 24 18:58:55 cabrio chat[1254]: abort on (VOICE) Aug 24 18:58:55 cabrio chat[1254]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Aug 24 18:58:55 cabrio chat[1254]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Aug 24 18:58:55 cabrio chat[1254]: send (ATZ^M) Aug 24 18:58:55 cabrio chat[1254]: expect (OK) Aug 24 18:59:14 cabrio chat[1254]: ATZ^M^M Aug 24 18:59:14 cabrio chat[1254]: OK Aug 24 18:59:14 cabrio chat[1254]: -- got it Aug 24 18:59:14 cabrio chat[1254]: send (ATDT5321000^M) Aug 24 18:59:14 cabrio chat[1254]: expect (CONNECT) Aug 24 18:59:14 cabrio chat[1254]: ^M Aug 24 18:59:44 cabrio chat[1254]: ATDT5321000^M Aug 24 18:59:44 cabrio chat[1254]: CONNECT Aug 24 18:59:44 cabrio chat[1254]: -- got it Aug 24 18:59:44 cabrio chat[1254]: send (\d) Aug 24 18:59:45 cabrio pppd[1253]: Serial connection established. Aug 24 18:59:46 cabrio pppd[1253]: Using interface ppp0 Aug 24 18:59:46 cabrio pppd[1253]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS2 Aug 24 19:00:16 cabrio pppd[1253]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Aug 24 19:00:16 cabrio pppd[1253]: Connection terminated. Aug 24 19:00:16 cabrio pppd[1253]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: Aug 24 19:00:16 cabrio pppd[1253]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 Aug 24 19:00:34 cabrio pppd[1253]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Aug 24 19:00:35 cabrio pppd[1253]: Exit. /etc/ppp/peers/netcom - noauth #pppconfig_noauth connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/netcom #pppconfig_connect debug #pppconfig_debug /dev/ttyS2 #pppconfig_dev 115200 #pppconfig_speed defaultroute #pppconfig_route noipdefault #pppconfig_ipdefault user 'us,ppp,thaths' #pppconfig_user /etc/ppp/pap-secrets 'us,ppp,thaths' * password /etc/chatscripts/netcom --- ABORT BUSY ABORT NO CARRIER ABORT VOICE ABORT NO DIALTONE ABORT NO ANSWER ATZ OK ATDT5321000 CONNECT \d\c ---Chat--- /var/log/messeges - Aug 24 19:09:05 cabrio pppd[1412]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 Aug 24 19:09:06 cabrio chat[1413]: abort on (BUSY) Aug 24 19:09:06 cabrio chat[1413]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Aug 24 19:09:06 cabrio chat[1413]: abort on (VOICE) Aug 24 19:09:06 cabrio chat[1413]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Aug 24 19:09:06 cabrio chat[1413]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Aug 24 19:09:06 cabrio chat[1413]: send (ATZ^M) Aug 24 19:09:06 cabrio chat[1413]: expect (OK) Aug 24 19:09:25 cabrio chat[1413]: ATZ^M^M Aug 24 19:09:25 cabrio chat[1413]: OK Aug 24 19:09:25 cabrio chat[1413]: -- got it Aug 24 19:09:25 cabrio chat[1413]: send (ATDT2230101^M) Aug 24 19:09:25 cabrio chat[1413]: expect (CONNECT) Aug 24 19:09:25 cabrio chat[1413]: ^M Aug 24 19:10:05 cabrio chat[1413]: ATDT2230101^M Aug 24 19:10:05 cabrio chat[1413]: CONNECT Aug 24 19:10:05 cabrio chat[1413]: -- got it Aug 24 19:10:05 cabrio chat[1413]: send (^M) Aug 24 19:10:05 cabrio chat[1413]: expect (ogin:) Aug 24 19:10:15 cabrio chat[1413]: 115200^M Aug 24 19:10:15 cabrio chat[1413]: netcom login: Aug 24 19:10:15 cabrio chat[1413]: -- got it Aug 24 19:10:15 cabrio chat[1413]: send (??) Aug 24 19:10:16 cabrio chat[1413]: expect (ssword:) Aug 24 19:10:25 cabrio chat[1413]: ^M Aug 24 19:10:45 cabrio chat[1413]: netcom login: 'us,ppp,thaths'^M Aug 24 19:10:45 cabrio chat[1413]: Password: Aug 24 19:10:45 cabrio chat[1413]: -- got it Aug 24 19:10:45 cabrio chat[1413]: send (??) Aug 24 19:10:45 cabrio chat[1413]: send (\d) Aug 24 19:10:46 cabrio pppd[1412]: Serial connection established. Aug 24 19:10:55 cabrio pppd[1412]: Using interface ppp0 Aug 24 19:10:55 cabrio pppd[1412]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS2 Aug 24 19:11:25 cabrio pppd[1412]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Aug 24 19:11:25 cabrio pppd[1412]: Connection terminated. Aug 24 19:11:25 cabrio pppd[1412]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: Aug 24
Running program at boot time
Thanks for all the reply. I am using a quite old Linux 1.2.13. So according to the start up scripts, anything you want to run at boot time, it should put in the rc.local file under /etc/rc.d. I put the program path in the rc.S file, and put the whole path for the program in rc.local. But still it dosn't work.
How to install modules after finished the installation
Hi! After I completed the installation of the Base System of Hamm, I found that I need some modules which have not selected from Step Install Operation Kernel and the Device Driver of Installation Program, How do I install these modules? In dont' want to re-install the Base System. Thanks Regards, Alex
Getting pine to send internet messages.
Hallo, In installed pine 3.96 on my Debian 2.0 system yesterday. With the older pine on Debian 1.3.1 I had a lot of pleasure. So far I could not get pine to send messages other than those to the localhost. When I try to send messages to somebody outside this machine, I get the error message: [Message not sent: defer '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' the email.address] I see no updated .pine-debug files. Does anyone know what the problem is? Johann. PS As my pine is not working, I sent this message using xemacs. -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. The heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up. II Peter 3:10
Re: QUESTION
On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: [snip] hmm what company puts out AutoCAD? AutoDesk I think. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 00A Promotional literature overflow - Mailbox full - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: correct procedure for make-kpkg
Hi, the == the lone gunman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the What is the correct procedure for building a home-grown custom kernel the with make-kpkg? What are the steps from installing the kernal source the package to installing the new, roll-your-own kernel? Please read /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. I had hoped that this document would be reasonably detailed; however, if you find it deficient, I would appreciate feedback so that I may improve it. manoj -- Why was I born with such contemporaries? Oscar Wilde Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E
Re: correct procedure for make-kpkg
On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 02:17:50AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, the == the lone gunman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the What is the correct procedure for building a home-grown custom kernel the with make-kpkg? What are the steps from installing the kernal source the package to installing the new, roll-your-own kernel? Please read /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. I had hoped that this document would be reasonably detailed; however, if you find it deficient, I would appreciate feedback so that I may improve it. Yes, yes. I apologize -- after posting the message, I realized the /usr/doc/ hierarchy. My fault entirely. Your document spells out everything perfectly. Sometimes it's just easier to ask rather than look myself. Thanks again!
Re: What is hurd?
I've browsed through the Hurd faq, but I'm still not clear exactly what advantages Hurd has over the Linux kernel. The FSF say that when they decided to continue Hurd development in 1990 once they heard about Linux, Linux was not portable and didn't scale well (esp. to multiprocessor machines). That's not true anymore (although maybe the Hurd can do it better?). I guess if you had been busy with such a project for years, you might want to finish it too. Besides that, I'd say that diversity is a Good Thing. There may be a point in the future you'd like to do something for which the hurd is better suited. Also, since both linux and hurd are GPL-ed, they can interchange code and learn from each other. The Hurd uses the Mach microkernel: microkernels are supposedly more efficient, but somewhere I read (I vaguely think it was by Linus, arguing with Tanenbaum about whether Minix was superior to Linux) that in the Real World, microkernels aren't as superior to monolithic kernels as they are theoretically supposed to be. Also, loadable modules give Linux some of the flexibility of microkernels. A very interesting and important difference as far as I understand it, is that _users_ may write, compile and install there own drivers into the kernel, without becoming root or rebooting, and without affecting the drivers used by others on the system. This goes as far as giving the possibility to provide different OS environments to different users, so in theory you could have `windows98' and `linux' running at the same time on the same machine without the kind of overhead you'd expect from an emulator. If anyone's keen to enlighten me/us on the intracacies of operating system kernels, they might like to comment on cached microkernels, like what the freedows project uses (www.freedows.org), or what the essential differences are between the Linux and BSD kernels. Some time ago there was a discussion on slashdot about freedows. Apparently at the time no actual coding had happened, and many people who entered the project had left it again already. From the discussion I gathered it is mostly vaporware. Since the hurd is now actually running, it may provide a more realistic route towards the goals of the freedows project. Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: Hardware monitoring software?
Have a look at wmlm78. Homepage : http://users.ox.ac.uk/~kebl0850/wmlm78/ Or search Freshmeat. Hope this is what you were looking for... Cheers. Bye. Ph. A. __ Reply Separator _ Subject: Hardware monitoring software? Author: Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] at SCITEX Date:8/24/98 8:38 PM Hi, Is there such a thing as software that will check environmental conditions on a motherboard, CPU fan, etc? My motherboard has a hardware monitor on it but I don't always want to go to the BIOS to check the conditions. Thanks, -Ossama -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Why hurd ? was (What is hurd?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Malloy) writes: It is quite worth while on its own merits, but what does it have to do with linux or debian? Debian, the multi kernel/multi arch distribution. I like the sound of that. I don't need hurd right now. but when I'm going to make some programs my self it would be nice not to use any linuxism. (Instead I will be using gnuisms) And by that time hurd will fille my spare 1/2 Gb which is now used by the OS of whom shall not be spoken. And it would be nice to work on a packages system I already knows. -- Makholm d.y.
Movie player
Is there a wprogram to play QuickTime movies in linux? BG
Re: telnet break-in
On Mon 08 Aug 1998, Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ok; granted - there are not free versions of ssh for Win95/NT (I thought there was one, but I don't have a URL so I'll concede the point). There is a sorta free implementation of SSH for Win95/NT. Source code is available, but modified versions may not be distributed without the permission of the author. The full copyright is available in the source code package. TeraTerm Pro is the actual software, and there is TTSSH, which is an extension to it, does a pretty nice job actually. Information available, including link to the TTSSH page at http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html It's only good for interactive sessions, and there is no ssh-keygen, but for secure connections from Win95/NT machines, it's a good alternative. Of course there is the standard ssh implementation for Win32 console mode, but terminal emulation is dodgy at the very best. There are two very good commercial implementations of ssh that I know of - the ssh from datafellows, and SecureCRT. SecureCRT is very nice... only available in the US, unless you visit www.replay.com Ben. -- Benjamin Lyall, perpetual slacker[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~blyall/ -= crappy homepage plug thingy 4th year student computer systems engineering and computer science RMIT city Oh my god! They killed Kenny! Those bastards! -- Kyle from South Park
Re: Movie player
On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 07:43:45PM +1000, BG Lim wrote: Is there a wprogram to play QuickTime movies in linux? Try xanim :) Mirek
Pygres not working on Debian 2.0
Hallo, I cannot get pygres running on Debian 2.0 with postgresql 6.3.2. The error message is this: from pg import * ImportError: /usr/lib/python1.5/lib-dynload/pgmodule.so: undefined symbol: lo_creat I had no problems on Debian 1.3.1 with libc5. Is anyone using pygres on libc6 on Linux? I would like to here from them. This problem is causing serous trouble for me. I cannot use my python database programs. If I cannot solve this, I will have to try going back to Debian 1.3.1 or perl or C++ to program all this over again. My problem is that I am very much a newbie C or C++ programmer and did never use perl before. Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. The heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up. II Peter 3:10
netMeeting
is there a program that can talk to netmeeting? BG
Re: Fetchmail.
On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't have to run as root, mine looks like this: ~ more .fetchmailrc defaults proto pop3 smtphost localhost poll mailhost1 user jesse password password1 poll mailhost2 user jesse password password2 I make it poll every 10 minutes like this: fetchmail -d 600 thank you for reply , yes it work well but the trafic go to the root account not all recipients write in each messages headers ??? comments are welcome tks tony On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 09:48:29PM +0200, Tony Schonfeld wrote: Please can i have an example to use fetchmail running from root to retrieve a mail from a pop server and forward it to my local smtp server ? Many thanks per advance, Tony Tony Schonfeld - F5GIT - GRENOBLE - Voice/Data/Fax: +33 (0)476932598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://schonfeld.home.ml.org - http://www.voiron.com/associations/ham/ Hamnet (ax25): [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Tony Schonfeld - F5GIT - GRENOBLE - Voice/Data/Fax: +33 (0)476932598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://schonfeld.home.ml.org - http://www.voiron.com/associations/ham/ Hamnet (ax25): [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
install hamm from CD
i've just receive my DEBIAN 2.0 distribution (linux central) today. i need to upgrade 1.3.1 to hamm, after reading instructions to upgrade correctly, i've mount my cdrom and type: cd /cdrom/upgrade/cd_autoup.sh /tmp cd /tmp chmod 555 cd_autoup.sh script /tmp/debian.upgrade cd /cdrom /tmp/cd_autoup.sh i've together this message error ! gate1# /tmp/cd_autoup.sh ldso_*.deb Can't find ../debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/base/ldso_*.deb! aborting upgrade. the script used is revision : 0.5 thank you for help ! Tony Tony Schonfeld - F5GIT - GRENOBLE - Voice/Data/Fax: +33 (0)476932598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://schonfeld.home.ml.org - http://www.voiron.com/associations/ham/ Hamnet (ax25): [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem with apt
Hi, I've just installed on some computer debian hamm via ftp method. I've also installed apt, but, when I give it update, it doesn't work ! It says that it cannot open passive conenctions. 425 Can't open passive connection: Permission denied. Any ideas ? TIA, Ionutz
Re: Why hurd ? was (What is hurd?)
On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Thomas Malloy wrote: [...] I thought DEBIAN was a distribution of linux, which runs on various hardware platforms. As you will know, Linux is two things at the same time. On one side, it is the name people usually call the complete OS, on the other side, it is just a Unix-like kernel. From this point of view, Debian is more a big collection of Debian packages than a distribution of Linux. The FSF people wanted a packaging system for the GNU operating system. They first planned to use rpm, but after we talked with them, they decided to use dpkg. To avoid unneeded duplication of efforts, it was decided to use the Debian source packages as a base, making it to be, in fact, some kind of Debian GNU/Hurd (there are some important differences, for example, we don't have a sysvinit-like boot system). Since they are Debian packages, and Debian has collaborated with other free software projects in the past, the logical place for these hurd-i386 packages is in the Debian FTP hierarchy, as if it were just another architecture. Hope this answer your question. Thanks. -- d693efbf1e22707739c131efa5315a8f (a truly random sig)
Package installation templates?
A good topic for the debain FAQ would be the answer to the following question. Perhaps someone would be kind enough to mail me their answer to this also. I want to create a standard list of packages which I will then install on 50 machines without having to go into dselect and choose them by hand. i.e. I want to to make a bunch of clones from the the sources. I need a template list for the packages in my set-up. How can I do this? Is is obvious? Thanks for any help, /M\ ~~ Work: +47 22453272Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax : +47 22453205WWW : http://www.iu.hioslo.no/~mark ~~
Can somebody help met to get pygres working on Debian 2.0?
I have sent email about this previously to the list, but since upgrading to Debian 2.0 my system is in such a mess that it seems the email got lost. If somebody have pygres running with postgresql 6.3.2 and debian 1.5.1 on Debian 2.0 I would like to know how they did it. If I cannot solve this problem, I will have to remove Debian 2.0 from my machine and reinstall 1.3.1. I do not know how to do that but I am so desperate that I will even do a new installation if necessary. Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. The heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up. II Peter 3:10
Re: MouseSystem optical mouse doesn't work on hamm
Opps! My /dev/mouse link was pointing to /dev/ttys0 and not /dev/ttyS0 ! Works now. After an upgrade from Slackware 96 (!) to hamm, my mouse doesn't work using the old XF86Config file and the old kernel. Attempts to reconfigure with XF86Setup were not successful. The mouse used to be at /dev/ttyS0 (not even a busmouse!) Peter
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Re: apt dists/stable-upgrades DOESN'T WORK
Quoting Ruud Janssen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This doesn't seem to work for me. This is my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Debian/dists/ stable-updates/ deb ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Debian stable main contrib non-us Try deb http://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian dists/stable-updates/ Mike Stone
Re: Why hurd ? was (What is hurd?)
On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The Hurd is a kernel not an OS. My take on this is that Debian is a collection of apps and their philosophy of package managment and the DFSG. The real name of Debian is 'Debian GNU/Linux', with the Hurd kernel it will just be 'Debian GNU/Hurd' but all the top level will be the same. The package managment the DFSG, etc will be identical. I may be wrong but that's what I have gathered. snip What's the major difference between Linux and HURD then? Is HURD stable enough for daily use? Admiral Charah Tech Support, Cyberspace Laoag, ISP http://www2.csi.com.ph/~keyoz Overuse of the smiley is a mark of loserhood --The Jargon File V4.0.0
Re: Why hurd ? was (What is hurd?)
Nathan wrote, Imagine Debian GNU/FreeBSD ... that would send some people straight over the edge. Actually, what I want is a Debian BSD/linux, using the BSD stuff rather than GNU. Maybe someday when i have a few hundred spare hours :) rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer.
Re: Why hurd ? was (What is hurd?)
On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: snip Imagine Debian GNU/FreeBSD ... that would send some people straight over the edge. Uhhmmm why not. So that we can all multiple boot to these OS's ( Linux /HURD/FreeBSD/Win32/fooOS) without learning any other packaging systems. I love OS's! snip Admiral Charah Tech Support, Cyberspace Laoag, ISP http://www2.csi.com.ph/~keyoz Overuse of the smiley is a mark of loserhood --The Jargon File V4.0.0
Smail in hamm checking DNS lookups?
I recently upgraded several of my Bo systems to Hamm. All went fine. I am currently struggling with some of the minor changes that the new packages have. My home system is setup on a dummy network (192.168.xxx.xxx), and I do typically email myself at my work Debian box which is on the net with a legit IP address. Now (after the hamm upgrade, I assume) I cannot send mail, and port 25 will not open if I telnet in from home. I never have a problem receiving mail from legit domains. So I assume Smail does this, and I would like to know how I can setup my home system to send mail to not just my work box, but other legit domains without a problem. I could even configure my work box so that it acted as the smarthost or relay or something along those lines. --Jay Barbee
New SMB Timeout...
Another package that I could not get my Bo configuration to work with the Hamm setup is SAMBA. Shares seem to be fine, but when I use SMBCLIENT I get an error such as: startlmhosts: Can't open lmhosts file /etc/lmhosts. Error was No such file or directory ...Then it simply hangs! It is true, I do not have a lmhosts file. I was hoping it to resolve via DNS. So I added name resolve order = hosts and I get the same error as above and also it tells me that port 134 on the machine I am tring to connect has timed-out? All Win95 clients connect to this same WinNT box just fine. Connections worked a-okay with my Bo setup. I currently run smbd and nmbd as daemons. Any ideas on the hangup? Encrypted passwords? This NT box getting to my Linux server works fine (printers, apps, shares, etc.). --Jay Barbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netMeeting
I'd have to guess NO. There are too many possible proprietary (non-free) interfaces. General API, Compression etc. Of couse you could write M$ and ask them when they're going to port it. :) You'd be much more likely to find a GNU project that is available on all your intereted platforms, instead of waiting for M$. L8r -- Greg. BG Lim wrote: is there a program that can talk to netmeeting? BG -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- What do you want to spend today? Debian GNU/Linux (Free for an UNLIMITED time) http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html Greg VenceKH2EA/4
Re: telnet break-in
Hi, Interesting ... after reading the above messages, I decided to check out my /var/log files and found a whole suite of in.telnetd[XXX]: connect statements. Bummer! It appears that it is time for you disable all of those incoming services we mentioned. Have you considered using Secure Shell? If you can't use Secure Shell, you might want to try One-Time Password packages, such as OPIE. I believe that even WU-FTP is starting to support one time passwords, too. -Ossama
Re: New SMB Timeout...
On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Jay Barbee wrote: : Another package that I could not get my Bo configuration to work with the Hamm : setup is SAMBA. Shares seem to be fine, but when I use SMBCLIENT I get an : error such as: : : startlmhosts: Can't open lmhosts file /etc/lmhosts. Error was No such file or : directory : : : ...Then it simply hangs! I had this problem when I was setting up Samba ... I'm sure it was the wrong thing to do but I did `touch /etc/lmhosts' and it's been working since ... Perhaps Eloy will have the real fix :) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
ifconfig failure.
Greetings, I sent this yesterday but never saw it appear on the list or in the archive, so I'm assuming something went wrong. I'm trying to install Debian 2.0 on an old 486dx4/100 with 32 MB of RAM, 2 GB of scsi disk, and a tulip-based PCI ethernet card. This is an Asus SP3g-based machine. Installing from the base disk set went fine. When the system rebooted after the base install the network was not visible. I noticed that the light on the back of the ethernet card was out. Upon investigating some more I noticed that the light is on when the tulip driver is loaded, and goes out when the first 'ifconfig' is done. Ifconfig returns SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable. If I remove and re-'insmod' the tulip driver the link integrity light reappears. but the first 'ifconfig eth0' does the same thing. I even tried downloading and installing the latest tulip driver. I'm pretty sure the card is not dead because I swapped it with a known good card and I see the same symptoms. Any suggestions appreciated. -- | Charles R. (C. R.) Oldham | NCA Commission on Schools| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Arizona St. Univ., PO Box 873011,| | V:602/965-8700 F:602/965-9423 | Tempe, AZ 85287-3011 _ | | I like it!--Citizen G'Kar | #include disclaimer.h X_|
pine installation
Hi everybody, I have downloaded the pine packages and don't know how to install the packages. Please help me. thanks in advance. Paul
proper permissions group for /dev/audio
I noticed exmh stopped beeping over new messages. I've found the reason: 0 crw-rw 1 root 2914, 4 Jun 23 17:57 /dev/audio It's lost whatever group it was attached to. Could someone who still has this tell me what the correct group permissions are? thanks rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer.
Re: proper permissions group for /dev/audio
should be group audio. The rest of what you showed is correct. Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: I noticed exmh stopped beeping over new messages. I've found the reason: 0 crw-rw 1 root 2914, 4 Jun 23 17:57 /dev/audio It's lost whatever group it was attached to. Could someone who still has this tell me what the correct group permissions are? thanks rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- = Linux, because I'd like to *get there* today
Re: proper permissions group for /dev/audio
should be group audio. The rest of what you showed is correct. Thanks, that did it rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer.
Re: proper permissions group for /dev/audio
I said, should be group audio. The rest of what you showed is correct. Thanks, that did it but it didn't. It worked for a few minutes, and now I find that /dev/audio is owned by bin. looking at /etc/group, it seems that audio and bin both fancy themself group 2. By it's position, audio should be 28 or 29, so i assume this is an editing error on my part. but which FM do I R to find what it should be, and what group i'm missing? rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer.
How do I prevent Ctrl+Alt+Q from killing my X server?
I've installed Debian 2.0 from the official Debian 2.0 binary. Things are working well, but while using Emacs, I discovered that Ctrl+Alt+Q immediately kills my X server. This is annoying, because that key sequence has meaning to Emacs. I'd like to tell the server not to die when I type that sequence, but I don't know how. For what it's worth, I've uncommented `DontZap' in /etc/X11/XF86COnfig; that prevents Ctrl+Alt+Backspace from killing the server ... Please respond by email, as I don't regularly read this group. Thanks! -- Eric Hanchrow -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp fingerprint: c6 c7 de 59 1d e3 95 44 bc 40 25 61 af b1 90 b7
Re: pine installation
On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Paul McDermott wrote: Hi everybody, I have downloaded the pine packages and don't know how to install the packages. Please help me. thanks in advance. Paul A description of what you need to do to complete the installation of pine is in /usr/src/pine/README is you installed the pine-diff package. You need that and the source package to install pine. Hope this helps, if you need more help, I have done this several times. Ehren -- Cooperative Education Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept of Chemical Materials Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta PGP key ID 7841CB11 For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and wrong. -- H. L. Mencken --
Re: proper permissions group for /dev/audio
Here is my /etc/group file. So not edit this file (much) (-: root:x:0: daemon:x:1: bin:x:2: sys:x:3: adm:x:4: tty:x:5: disk:x:6: lp:x:7:lp mail:x:8: news:x:9: uucp:x:10: proxy:x:13: kmem:x:15: dialout:x:20: fax:x:21: voice:x:22: cdrom:x:24: floppy:x:25: tape:x:26: sudo:x:27: audio:x:29: dip:x:30: majordom:x:31:majordom postgres:x:32: www-data:x:33: backup:x:34: msql:x:36: operator:x:37: list:x:38: irc:x:39: src:x:40: gnats:x:41: shadow:x:42: staff:x:50: games:x:60: qmail:x:70: users:x:100: nogroup:x:65534: Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: I said, should be group audio. The rest of what you showed is correct. Thanks, that did it but it didn't. It worked for a few minutes, and now I find that /dev/audio is owned by bin. looking at /etc/group, it seems that audio and bin both fancy themself group 2. By it's position, audio should be 28 or 29, so i assume this is an editing error on my part. but which FM do I R to find what it should be, and what group i'm missing? rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- = Linux, because I'd like to *get there* today
Installation/Loadlin LINUX ...
Hi, I have a 486 system, and am installing from a HD. When I try to run the autoexec.bat program, I find that I get an error= Not an image file. When I go thorugh the Machine code, it looks to me like Loadlin opens LINUX, reads 4096 = bytes (0x1000), and yet never actually looks at the contents. So much for figuring out how to find out what is going wrong, on my = own. Can you tell me what is going wrong here, or alternatively what it is = that LOADLIN is looking for? LINUX is approximately a 700-k file, with no extension. - Michael Rudmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var/log cleanout
Are system maintainers (su's) supposed to clean out the /var/log directory after a while? Mine is up to 15MB and I don't think I really need to see if I connected to the internet on June 2nd. Also is there a program which cleans this for you, or what is the correct way? Thanks. Mark Panzer
Re: telnet break-in
can't use Secure Shell, you might want to try One-Time Password packages,
such as OPIE. I believe that even WU-FTP is starting to support one time
passwords, too.
Uhm, secure shell is not the answer to all problems. It WILL revert to an
unsecure protocol if the other end can not establish an encrypted session.
The idea is to make sure all machines use Secure Shell. I know this isn't
always possible, but we don't live in an ideal world. :)
Also, it is still just as easy to log in with a cracked password. About
the only thing it is really great at is making sure that the other machine
really has permission for a password-less login. Still, even THIS can be
hacked if someone has gotten onto the machine in the past and snarfed a
copy of your public ssh key.
Hence the One-Time Password suggestion. Either way, better to have/use
SSH than use telnet/ftp/r{login,sh,exec}.
-Ossama
Help installing Debian on UMSDOS file system?
I'm trying to install Debian on my wife's laptop that's currently running Windows 95. She's afraid that if I repartition it to make space for Linux, that she won't be able to reinstall all the Win95 software that's on the disk (it's a Compaq, and they don't ship Win95 installation CDs with their boxes). So, I'm trying to make a UMSDOS partition and set up Debian using that. The Debian installation system doesn't seem to support UMSDOS based installation directly, although I've managed to put a UMSDOS-aware kernel on the rescue disk and get it to boot. I untarred the base_2.0.tgz file into a top level target directory that I'vecalled linux, as that's what loadlin and the UMSDOS-aware kernels seem to want for their root file systems. The Debian installation system wants to mount a partition itself; I tried mounting my UMSDOS partition by hand, but Debian didn't like it (though I don't know the magic to get /dev/hda1/linux mounted directly as a UMSDOS partition; so this may be why Debian doesn't see it). Debian said your system is unconfigured and maybe you need to install your rescue disk into the floppy drive and reboot. I've been using Debian since late '93, and have it installed on all my other computers, but this one has me stumped. Hopefully, someone can tell me: a) what the Debian does when configuring the base system so that I can do that by hand? b) how and where to mount the /linux directory UMSDOS partition so that the Debian installation system recognizes it as a valid Debian system that I can then complete the configuration on? c) is there some other way to install onto a UMSDOS paritition? d) there used to be dpkg.tar that you could use to bootstrap the installation process with; I can't find it anymore...is it still in existence? I tried installing the IronWing distribution which does run out of the box in a UMSDOS partition and then upgrading it to Debian, but I got stuck when trying to install the Debian glibc (IronWing is Slackware based, and is somewhat behind the times in the versions of software that are available for it; also, its /etc files use the different rc.d setup (no init.d), so installing .deb packages tends to lose when they try to set up their rc files). I appreciate any help that you can provide. Thanks! Steve
Wow! apt-get is great!
After a year of using Debian 1.3 without ever upgrading packages via ftp, I got my 2.0 CDs and upgarded via apt. It went great. Now, a few weeks later, I decide to try to upgrade packages via ftp. I edit /etc/apt/sources.list and run $ apt-get update $ apt-get upgrade Wow! It's great! Super upgrade with hardly any interaction! Thanks for such a great tool! [Q] What would I do differently if I only wanted to upgarde certain packages? Could I still use apt-get? -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd Linux user at the Linux Counter -- http://counter.li.org/
Re: Wow! apt-get is great!
Hey, /usr/doc/apt/guide.text answered my question! I could still use apt-get to upgrade only a few packages using $ apt-get install package1 package2 Great! -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd Linux user at the Linux Counter -- http://counter.li.org/
Re: Wow! apt-get is great!
*- Peter S Galbraith wrote about Wow! apt-get is great! | | [Q] What would I do differently if I only wanted to upgarde certain | packages? Could I still use apt-get? Use dselect with the apt access method or just download the individual files and the dpkg -i them. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
apache configuration
I'm not sure what happened, but during one of the upgrades of the apache package gzipped files no longer were sent with the correct Content-Type anymore. My understanding is that (for instance) if you get NEWS.gz that it will be sent back with a Content-Type: of text/plain and a Content-Encoding: of x-gzip. Instead it seems that the content type is sent as application/x-gzip. See the example below. Anyone know what I have to do to get apache to send back the correct Content-Type again? Thanks, Behan -- Behan Webster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-613-224-7547 http://www.verisim.com/ griffon:/tmp wget -Y off -S http://localhost/doc/wget/NEWS.gz --14:45:20-- http://localhost:80/doc/wget/NEWS.gz = `NEWS.gz' Connecting to localhost:80... connected! HTTP request sent, fetching headers... 1 HTTP/1.1 200 OK 2 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:45:20 GMT 3 Server: Apache/1.3.1 (Unix) Debian/GNU PHP/3.0.3 4 Last-Modified: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 04:52:56 GMT 5 ETag: a7a1-8cf-331f9f28 6 Accept-Ranges: bytes 7 Content-Length: 2255 8 Connection: close 9 Content-Type: application/x-gzip 10 Content-Encoding: 0K - .. 14:45:20 (2.15 MB/s) - `NEWS.gz' saved [2255/2255] griffon:/tmp
Re: Netscape xpm-problems solved.. next problem :-)
Quoting Kris Van Hulle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I see. Indeed, I get the right colors in 32 bpp mode. Unfortunately, my card/monitor doesn't seem able to handle 1024*768 in 32 bpp mode. And I'm certainly not gonna work in 800*600 mode. So, any other options ? Try 16bpp? Mike Stone
CVS 1.10 is out...hamm?
Hi, Will CVS 1.10 be available in hamm? -Ossama
IPX not compiled in Hamm distribution?
OK, new user here. I've searched through as many resources as I can to find an answer for this question but I must be overlooking it. My local Linux hand-holders are not able to answer my question. I recently did two installations of Debian Linux 2.0.34, the Hamm distribution. BTW, many congrats to all Debian participants for the slick installation methods - since I was attempting to put Linux on an old '386 with a very small hard drive and no CD, the handful-of-floppies install followed by the ftp-connected dselect was very impressive. At some point, I wanted to attempt to use the ncpfs utilities to try mounting Netware servers. When I had problems, at some point I of course needed to try using ipx_configure, but regardless of the arguments I used with it I generally got: ipx_configure: socket: Invalid argument My Linux hand-holder, who uses ncpfs a lot, took me through a bunch of directories and concluded that IPX support was not included in whatever kernel I had. I recalled that there were a number of optional modules that could be installed in the kernel by the Debian installation routines, and assumed I missed requesting IPX. So I did a clean re-install, and saw that indeed, ncpfs support was an optional module for inclusion in the kernel. I requested it and when I later got to the dselect selections, I requested the ncpfs and ipx packages. But even early on in the Debian installation routine, I saw times when the scripts called ipx_configure themselves and the same error appeared. Am i using the wrong distribution, or missing something in installation, etc. etc. Any pointers on this? Thanks! -- paul marxhausen ``` ` ` `` ` ` ` ` ` university of nebraska - lincoln ` ` ` `` ` ` `` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `` ` ` ` ` `` ` ` `` ` grace ` `` ` ` ` ` ``` `` happens `
Second drive for DOSEmu?
After reading through all the DOSEmu info, I'm sorta-kinda-nearly grasping this issue, but I still want to ask: I'll be converting a utility PC from MS-DOS over to Hamm soon, and will be running at least one DOS program under DOSEmu. I've already tested it and it's happy, if slow. I thought a handy way and safe way to migrate would be to take my existing DOS IDE drive (80 Mb), and make it the second drive in the system. Another 80 Mb drive would become the main drive with Debian Linux installed. (Yes, it'll fit.) I hope to be able to have two options: 1) have LILO give an option to boot either disk at startup, so we can have real pure MS-DOS if things go awry; and/or 2) use LREDIR or some other mechanism to have the whole second drive accessible as the DOSEMu drive. Now, am I right . . . is that second drive simply called /dev/hda2 in things like the fstab? I mean, when installing Debian, I've seen it make the main partition hda1 and the swap hda2 or hda6 . . . will that second drive appear in the Linux partitioning program? Am i on the right track here? I suspect this is an obvious application that's been done often. -- paul marxhausen ``` ` ` `` ` ` ` ` ` university of nebraska - lincoln ` ` ` `` ` ` `` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `` ` ` ` ` `` ` ` `` ` grace ` `` ` ` ` ` ``` `` happens `
Re: WARNING : libc6 Version: 2.0.7t-1 breaks resolv routines
This implies that 'host' deals only in names and would therefor make 'host 127.0.0.1' undocumented behavior. However, the man page also says: SNIP This, on the other hand, implies that 'host' does deal in IP addresses. Looks like a bug in the man page. this is a little old (i've been lazy with the email), but host does most certainly work with ip#'s. eg. [11:23am] badger(larry) host 209.112.156.52 Name: badger.alaska.net Address: 209.112.156.52 the reason that it worked with 127.0.0.1 and not with localhost that you have a 'search' or 'domain' parameter setup in your '/etc/resolv.conf' file so it appended 'yourdomain.com' to localhost... and failed. you'll notice that if you look for 'localhost.' (where the trailing dot means don't cannonify this addresses) it will resolve from your '/etc/hosts' file (assuming you have /etc/nsswitch.conf setup to use files for the hosts entry). eg. [11:25am] badger(larry) host 127.0.0.1 Name: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 [11:25am] badger(larry) host localhost localhost.alaska.net does not exist (Authoritative answer) [11:25am] badger(larry) host localhost. localhost A 127.0.0.1 some people have a localhost.theirdomain.com setup, in which case all three of the above would work, but obviously you don't :-) adam. Internet Alaska 4050 Lake Otis Pkwy Adam Shand (v) +1 907 562 4636 Anchorage, AK 99508 Systems Administrator (f) +1 907 562 4807 --- http://www.underrealm.net ---
Sending via SMAIL from dialup connection and private network
[Second Time Posted, I thought the Subject was not very informative] I recently upgraded several of my Bo systems to Hamm. All went fine. I am currently struggling with some of the minor changes that the new packages have. My home system is setup on a dummy network (192.168.xxx.xxx), and I do typically email myself at my work Debian box which is on the net with a legit IP address. Now (after the hamm upgrade, I assume) I cannot send mail, and port 25 will not open if I telnet in from home. I never have a problem receiving mail from legit domains. So I assume Smail does this, and I would like to know how I can setup my home system to send mail to not just my work box, but other legit domains without a problem. I could even configure my work box so that it acted as the smarthost or relay or something along those lines. --Jay Barbee -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Second drive for DOSEmu?
On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 01:34:24PM -0700, Paul Marxhausen wrote: After reading through all the DOSEmu info, I'm sorta-kinda-nearly grasping this issue, but I still want to ask: I'll be converting a utility PC from MS-DOS over to Hamm soon, and will be running at least one DOS program under DOSEmu. I've already tested it and it's happy, if slow. I thought a handy way and safe way to migrate would be to take my existing DOS IDE drive (80 Mb), and make it the second drive in the system. Another 80 Mb drive would become the main drive with Debian Linux installed. (Yes, it'll fit.) I hope to be able to have two options: 1) have LILO give an option to boot either disk at startup, so we can have real pure MS-DOS if things go awry; and/or 2) use LREDIR or some other mechanism to have the whole second drive accessible as the DOSEMu drive. Now, am I right . . . is that second drive simply called /dev/hda2 in things like the fstab? I mean, when installing Debian, I've seen it make the main partition hda1 and the swap hda2 or hda6 . . . will that second drive appear in the Linux partitioning program? No... you can read the Hard Drive devcice numbers for IDE like: /dev/hda1 a = physocal drive 1 = partition number it goes like this: /dev/hda = primary IDE controler Master drive /dev/hdb = primary IDE controller Slave drive /dev/hdc = secondary (if you have one) Master . so you probably want /dev/hdb1 Am i on the right track here? I suspect this is an obvious application that's been done often. Well I have managed to stay wawy from DOS...not much there I want -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
Debian 1.3.1 instal on a 386/40
Hi, I'm new at this list. Thinking on install 1.3.1 on a old AMD386DX/40 with 20Mb ram, a Mitsumi LU005S cd-rom (non-ide), an ET4000 graphic chip and no 387 processor. Any problem ? Btw.. do anyone knew the scanning frequency (H V) on a Victor color monitor BV243490 ? -- Rolf Edlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Attachment #1, win98.zip (17353826353873614 bytes), multipart/text 7bit-
Re: How do I prevent Ctrl+Alt+Q from killing my X server?
Check your XF86Config file in /etc/X11. Look for an option that is commented out called Dontzap. Uncomment this line. The sequence is usually Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill x but who knows it might work. -Allan On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Eric Hanchrow wrote: - I've installed Debian 2.0 from the official Debian 2.0 binary. Things - are working well, but while using Emacs, I discovered that Ctrl+Alt+Q - immediately kills my X server. This is annoying, because that key - sequence has meaning to Emacs. I'd like to tell the server not to die - when I type that sequence, but I don't know how. For what it's worth, - I've uncommented `DontZap' in /etc/X11/XF86COnfig; that prevents - Ctrl+Alt+Backspace from killing the server ... - - Please respond by email, as I don't regularly read this group. - - Thanks! - -- || | Allan K. Neal | Electronics and Computer Technology | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Utah State University | | http://cc.usu.edu/~slvkd/ | ASTE Network Administrator| || |The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when it's open. | ||
Re: ifconfig failure.
C. R. Oldham wrote: [...] Ifconfig returns SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable. Sorry for the false alarm. I checked by BIOS setup and the card was not being assigned an interrupt. Forcing the interrupt to 12 has fixed the problem. -- | Charles R. (C. R.) Oldham | NCA Commission on Schools| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Arizona St. Univ., PO Box 873011,| | V:602/965-8700 F:602/965-9423 | Tempe, AZ 85287-3011 _ | | I like it!--Citizen G'Kar | #include disclaimer.h X_|
