RE: Mi disco duro esta frito ...y sin tomate
-Mensaje original-De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Ennombre de Jose Luis TrivinoEnviado el: jueves 15 de octubre de 1998 10:28Para: 'Lista de Debian'Asunto: Mi disco duro esta frito ...y sin tomateHola, Tengo un ordenador con debian 1.3.1 instalado. El caso esque, tras un corte de luz hace unas semanas, cuando arrancoel sistema y comienza la comprobacion del HD empieza a darmeerrores como IO request error y Short read en sector Despues se para y me dice que entre como root yejecute fsck a mano sin opciones -p ni -a. Tras hacer esto ydespues de tragarme de nuevo todos los mensajes de errorconsigo arrancar el sistema. Sin embargo, parece que loserrores no se han corregido puesto que en la siguienteverificacion vuelven a aparecer. Alguien sabria decirme a que se deben estos errores y comocorregirlos (a ser posible sin tener que reformatear oreinstalar)? Gracias,---Jose Luis Trivintilde;o RodriguezLAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html-La medida de programar es programar sin medidaEl error puede se por 2 causas: 1) Linux usa los discos de manera diferente a los Windows, en uno de stos si tu le mandas escribir algo, automticamente lo hace, pero Linux utiliza bferes del disco, (que para algo estn), y por ello, si le mandas copiar algo, el decidir cuando lo hace. Si en el momento en el que se te fu la luz tena algo que no haba copiado en buffer, eso se pierde y un archivo corrompido es lo que el encuentra.(De ah el messaje I/O request error, que significa error de entrada y salida y te dice el n de cluster con datos defectuosos). El archivo daado no se cual es, ya que no especificas si aparece cuando accede al disco o si es cuando te dice que tu sistema de archivos est limpio. 2) Podra ser un problema ms grave, ya que si se te fue la luz y justo estaba escribiendo, entonces se pueden haber daado varios clsteres y aparte de estar daado el software, tambien estarlo el hardware, (no me mola ser pesimista, pero es la otra opcin), ya que las cabezas en un disco duro, estn suspendidas a muy poco espacio sobre la superficie del disco, mantenidas por el aire que producen los platos del disco al girar, si se corta la corriente y las cabezas estn en la zona de los platos, porque justo estaba escribiendo en ese momento, estas pueden caer y daar fsicamente el disco. Espero que este no sea tu caso. Saludos :))
Re: Una reflexión sobre locales y documentación traducida
El Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:29:50AM +0200, Jose Luis Trivino dijo: Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote: No sería más fácil que cuando se instale el paquete locales, este borre todos los subdirectorios de otros lenguajes, excluyendo el inglés y cualquier otro idioma que hayamos seleccionado? Esto si que no. De ninguna manera! Puede darse el caso que un ordenador lo use mas de una persona con diferentes idiomas. En este caso interesaria tener mas de un local instalado y definir la variable LANG de forma personal para cada usuario. De esta forma un usuario podria trabajar en ingles, otro en español y otro en japones con el mismo equipo/configuracion. Claro... tal vez no me expliqué bien, en pocas palabras el cuento es definir el idioma (o claro... LOS idiomas) que se quieran instalar. Pero está el problema cuando llegue un ruso a una empresa franco-italiana. Me inclino por lo que dijeron de separar los locales (por ej. locales-es), y realizar un sub-programa para dselect (o dpkg) para que el los instale automágicamente. Ciao... -- Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa| POWERED BY | www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 | www.gnu.org - Always Free, Always Cool, Always Linux
RV: De nuevo sobre mi unidad scsi...
-Mensaje original-De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: viernes 16 de octubre de 1998 0:42Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.orgAsunto: RE: De nuevo sobre mi unidad scsi... -Mensaje original-De: Miguel Angel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Enviado el: jueves 15 de octubre de 1998 23:22Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.orgAsunto: De nuevo sobre mi unidad scsi... Pues, perdona el lapsus, pero s que tiene arranque desde la bios, hasta tal punto que sale LI y ah se queda el sistema (reseteo y arranco desde CD, que funciona perfectamente). Gracias. - Si efectivamente puedes ver slo LI en el arranque, es que efectivamente tu BIOS puede arrancar por SCSI, (vaya suerte, la mia slo es A,C y ah se queda), entonces el problema est en tu contoladora SCSI o en tu JAZ. 1) Si por algn casual posees Windows, preferiblemente 9X, mira si no posee ningn conflicto de asignacin de recursos, esto se mira en PANEL DE CONTROL\SISTEMA, una vez dentro pincha sobre ADMINISTRADOR DE DISPOSITIVOS, y vete a SCSI pincha sobre tu tarjeta y dale a PROPIEDADES, entonces mira la asignacin de recursos pinchando sobre ellos y viendo si alguno entra en conflicto con otra tarjeta, si es as tendras que consultar en el manual de tu controladora y mirar como se cambian las IRQ. 2) Puede ser que el MBR(master boot record) donde se aloja LILO est corrompido, ya que si slo te aparece LI entonces puede ser que tenga algna parte de LILO corrompido, entonces, tu nica solucin es utilizar un disquete de arranque (siempre protegido contra escritura, claro) que sepa que tu Linux est en el JAZ, arracar y teclear la orden para borrar LILO lilo -u sin comillas y luego para restaurar LILO tecleando lilo tambin sin comillas. Si esto falla significa que tu disco JAZ esta estropeado (creeme, he visto fallar muchos discos JAZ, ya que si levantas la tapa y miras al fondo vers unos cabezales de escritura\lectura iguales a los de los discos duros, ya que el JAZ y estos utilizan la misma tecnologa, WINCHESTER* , pero el JAZ tiene el inconveniente que al ser un cartucho extraible nunca va a quedar tan calibrado como un disco fijo, entonces las cabezas pueden golpear contra la superficie, dandola, y si esa zona es el MBR, entonces te inutiliza el cartucho para siempre). 3) Si ves que todo lo anterior est bien, cosa que dudo, me sentir un poco insatisfecho por no poder ayudarte, pero estos son mis conocimientos que espero ampliar poco a poco. No se me ocurren ms cosas que puedan provocar dicho cuelgue. Saludos :)) *Un fallo lo tiene cualquiera. #Vctor#
Re: Problemas con send mail
El Thu, Oct 15, 1998, Octavio Rodriguez Perez... Antonio Castro wrote: Despues de la última actualización a Debian 2.0 me quedan algunas cosas por arreglar. Una de ellas es el sendmail. ... La recepción la hace normalmente pero tanto mailq con sendmail -q esperan exactamente un minuto antes de hacer nada. ... A mi tambien me ocurre algo raro. Al arrancar el sistema operativo, al llegar al punto: Activando el Agente de Trasporte de Correo: sendmail se queda ahi unos 20 segundos (no los he contado), y luego sigue. Mi ordenador es un Pentium II a 333 MHz y tiene instalado la Debian 2.0 Y no será que, al actualizaros la Debian, cuando configuráis el host, que solo admite nombre *sin puntos* (!?), luego no lo arregláis para disponer de un full qualified... ?? Si tenéis un `hostname' formado por una palabra añadidle `.net', por ejemplo, a ver que pasa. Saludos. PD: yo estoy en el siguiente paso del Sendmail, conseguir que salga la dirección correcta, ;-) Cosme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux actual 4 falla (fwd)
El Thu, Oct 15, 1998, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a... ...También parece que, para rebajar costes las estampadoras bajan la calidad y resulta que los CDs se leen bien en lectores de baja velocidad (hasta 12x) pero a más alta empiezan a fallar. Yo con un lector 1x el único problema que he tenido ha sido el que la instalación se alargue horas y horas... ;-) Funcionaron a la primera. Saludos. Cosme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DRIVERS PARA DFE-530TX (D-LINK)
Necesito los drives para la tarjeta de red DFE-530TX (D-LINK) para linux. Si alguien sabe donde poder conseguirlos que lo diga. Un saludo, Esper P.D.MUCHAS GRACIAS
Re: Problemas con send mail
Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 06:24:31PM +, Octavio Rodriguez Perez wrote: A mi tambien me ocurre algo raro. Al arrancar el sistema operativo, al llegar al punto: Activando el Agente de Trasporte de Correo: sendmail se queda ahi unos 20 segundos (no los he contado), y luego sigue. Mi ordenador es un Pentium II a 333 MHz y tiene instalado la Debian 2.0 Me atrevo a apostar que tienes xntp3 instalado... y que no tienes una conexion directa a la red... es eso. Marcelo SORPRESA!! He cronometrado el tiempo y no son 20 sino 60 SEGUNDOS!! Asi que me temo que mi problema es el mismo de Antonio. ¿Alguna sugerencia? Octavio
Re: problemas con infovia en Debian2
Antonio Calvo Rodriguez wrote: Debian 2 ha cambiado el formato de /etc/ppp . . . He puesto todo como nos indicaste. Y cuando arranco pon, al poner plog me salen los siguientes mensajes: ... send (ATDT055^M) Serial connection established Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS2 ... Serial line is looped back Connection terminated Exit ¿Donde se configura esto de que el modem haga loopback a mi maquina? En /etc/hosts tengo: 127.0.0.1 debianlocalhost siendo debian el nombre de mi maquina. No consigo conectarme a internet, ¿que puede ser? Gracias, Octavio
RE: linux actual 4 falla (fwd)
El Thu, Oct 15, 1998, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a... ...También parece que, para rebajar costes las estampadoras bajan la calidad y resulta que los CDs se leen bien en lectores de baja velocidad (hasta 12x) pero a más alta empiezan a fallar. Yo con un lector 1x el único problema que he tenido ha sido el que la instalación se alargue horas y horas... ;-) Funcionaron a la primera. Yo los he probado en 12x y han ido bien. Lo que si he comprobado comparando con CDs de hace 3 o 4 años, es que ahora pesan menos, creo que deben llevar menos material. Tambien he oido de lectores de CD averiados, porque los CD se mueven dentro, no solo girando, sino botando. Saludos. Angel Vicente Perez Dpto. Informatica KNIPPING ESPAÑA S.A. Tfno. +34-1-6070-311 Fax +34-1-6070-331 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problemas de instalacion
Hola, mi nombre es Manolo y estoy teniendo problemas para instalar la Debian 2.0 alias hamm en un PC. El PC es un Pentium II a 266 MHz con 32 Mb de memoria Ram. Tiene una tarjeta de video S3 Virge GX2 con 4Mb de memoria en PCI, un disco duro Western Digital de 3 Gb,una grabadora Philips 3610, una tarjeta de red compatible NE2000 en PCI, un teclado y un raton PS/2 y una placa madre QDI Legend V. Lo que me ocurre en la instalacion es que al ponerle que me instale los paquetes correspondientes a un perfil de Workstation Standard se queda colgado en la instalacion. Exactamente se queda en el paquete make-doc, y tengo que resetear el PC. Un companero me sugirio que podia ser un problema de hardware, y le he estado cambiando todo el hardware, es decir, teclado, raton, tarjeta de video y tarjeta de red. Lo unico que me faltaria seria la placa madre.Si le digo que me instale otro perfil como el de Workstation Cientifica me canta un Segmentation Default. Sin embargo al ponerle una instalacion minima de unos 50Mb si me la hace. Me gustaria que me sugirieran alguna posible solucion. Un Saludo. -- -- Manuel Jerez Cardenes Dpto. Electronica Telematica y Automatica E.T.S.I. de Telecomunicaciones Universidad de Las Palmas de Gran Canaria E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --
Re: linux actual 4 falla (fwd)
Angel Vicente Perez wrote: ... bajan la calidad y resulta que los CDs se leen bien en lectores de baja velocidad (hasta 12x) pero a más alta empiezan a fallar. ... Yo los he probado en 12x y han ido bien. Lo que si he comprobado comparando con CDs de hace 3 o 4 años, es que ahora pesan menos, creo que deben llevar menos material. Tambien he oido de lectores de CD averiados, porque los CD se mueven dentro, no solo girando, sino botando. ... Yo lo he probado con dos lectoras de 24x y tambien funcionan bien. En cuanto a que los CD's botan debe ser cierto ya que las nuevas lectoras llevan unas pestañitas para agarrar los CD's \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Jordi Román Mejiase-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Autònoma ObertaServei de InformàticaUniversitat Autónoma de Barcelona /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Re: problemas con infovia en Debian2
Ejem, creo que el Serial line is looped back es un problema común de Infovía (corregidme si me equivoco). Lo que está pasando es que los paquetes que envía el Linux para la negociación PPP (sube el debug level del ppp a 3 para verlo, creo) le son enviados tal cual. Por eso es mejor no utilizar el servicio de Infovía, muchas veces falla lo que pasa es que en Linux ves por qué. Puedes probar varias veces y en algún momento llegará a conectarse, mientras tanto todos los errores que sepas que los pagas (en todos los sentidos). Un saludete Javi On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 01:21:18PM +, Octavio Rodriguez Perez wrote: Antonio Calvo Rodriguez wrote: Debian 2 ha cambiado el formato de /etc/ppp . . . He puesto todo como nos indicaste. Y cuando arranco pon, al poner plog me salen los siguientes mensajes: ... send (ATDT055^M) Serial connection established Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS2 ... Serial line is looped back Connection terminated Exit ¿Donde se configura esto de que el modem haga loopback a mi maquina? En /etc/hosts tengo: 127.0.0.1 debianlocalhost siendo debian el nombre de mi maquina. No consigo conectarme a internet, ¿que puede ser? Gracias, Octavio
Re: problemas con infovia en Debian2
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: Ejem, creo que el Serial line is looped back es un problema común de Infovía (corregidme si me equivoco). Lo que está pasando es que los paquetes que envía el Linux para la negociación PPP (sube el debug level del ppp a 3 para verlo, creo) le son enviados tal cual. ¿Y por que con la Debian 1.3.1 esto no me pasaba? Perdon, me explico, si que unas veces se conectaba y otras no, pero es que ahora nunca consigo conectarme. Tengo la opcion debug activada y efectivamente hay una negociacion que no entiendo muy bien donde entra en juego el valor del parametro asyncmap que he probado a poner a 0 y a a, siempre con el mismo resultado. Por cierto, en el mensaje de Antonio Calvo donde ponia como ejemplo sus ficheros de configuracion del PPP, no incluye el /etc/ppp/options. Las opciones de este fichero no se modifican con el programa pppconfig. ¿Es que este fichero no se usa con el nuevo formato del PPP? Yo las he modificado a mano, al fin y al cabo no es mas que descomentar dos o tres lineas. Otra cosa que queria preguntar es que si cada vez que hay que incluir en algun fichero el nombre de usuario hay que omitir el .es (p.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] en vez de [EMAIL PROTECTED]) y por que la clave ahora se pone como \qMiClave en vez de \qMiClave\q que es como se ponia antes. Por eso es mejor no utilizar el servicio de Infovía, muchas veces falla lo que pasa es que en Linux ves por qué. Puedes probar varias veces y en algún momento llegará a conectarse, mientras tanto todos los errores que sepas que los pagas (en todos los sentidos). Y si no me conecto por medio de infovia, ¿como lo hago? ¿Sabes cuando estara operativa la nueva red IP de Telefonica, o si Retevision tiene algun servicio alternativo? Un saludete Javi Gracias Javi. Por cierto, los CD´s me funcionaron a la primera y con lo que me quede mas sorprendido fue con la instalacion de X Windows, que se instalaron sin problemas (la primera vez que me pasa). Saludos, Octavio
Re: linux actual 4 falla (fwd)
Jordi Roman Mejias wrote: Angel Vicente Perez wrote: ... bajan la calidad y resulta que los CDs se leen bien en lectores de baja velocidad (hasta 12x) pero a más alta empiezan a fallar. ... Yo los he probado en 12x y han ido bien. Lo que si he comprobado comparando con CDs de hace 3 o 4 años, es que ahora pesan menos, creo que deben llevar menos material. Tambien he oido de lectores de CD averiados, porque los CD se mueven dentro, no solo girando, sino botando. ... Yo lo he probado con dos lectoras de 24x y tambien funcionan bien. En cuanto a que los CD's botan debe ser cierto ya que las nuevas lectoras llevan unas pestañitas para agarrar los CD's Pues yo los he probado con un lector de 32x y todo funciono a la primera. Saludos, Octavio
Re: problemas con infovia en Debian2
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 05:19:12PM +, Octavio Rodriguez Perez wrote: Por cierto, en el mensaje de Antonio Calvo donde ponia como ejemplo sus ficheros de configuracion del PPP, no incluye el /etc/ppp/options. Las opciones de este fichero no se modifican con el programa pppconfig. ¿Es que este fichero no se usa con el nuevo formato del PPP? Yo las he modificado a mano, al fin y al cabo no es mas que descomentar dos o tres lineas. En realidad no hay nuevo formato de PPP. El PPP es un protocolo (especificado en un RFC), si algo ha cambiado es el programa encargado de implementarlo, que es el demonio pppd. Lo que se modifica al tocar el options es el *comportamiento* de este demonio. Otra cosa que queria preguntar es que si cada vez que hay que incluir en algun fichero el nombre de usuario hay que omitir el .es (p.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] en vez de [EMAIL PROTECTED]) y por que la clave ahora se pone como \qMiClave en vez de \qMiClave\q que es como se ponia antes. Bueno, esto en realidad no es problema del demonio, cuando tu accedes al modem de Infovia. Llamando al 055, y te autentificas (primero acuerdas el sistema, que suele ser PAP creo), mandas una cadena con tu login ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) y tu password. El @ y lo que sigue es necesario para que te autentifique él a su vez con tu proveedor, identificado por lo que sigue a la arroba. Pero si te conectas diréctamente al nodo de tu proveedor, como usuario utilizaras solo octavio. Y si no me conecto por medio de infovia, ¿como lo hago? ¿Sabes cuando estara operativa la nueva red IP de Telefonica, o si Retevision tiene algun servicio alternativo? La nueva red IP de Telefonica, según he oído de gente que ya la está usando (algunos proveedores) es aún peor. La implementación de PPP que han hecho no es la correcta y no funciona con Linux (esto son rumores, no los he probado y no puedo verificarlo). Retevisión ofrecerá un servicio alternativo, aunque aún está por ver cuando (preguntaré a mi novia que trabaja con ellos :) Aunque lo último que hoy yo era finales de este año (por Noviembre). La alternativa a utilizar Infovia es conectar directamente con tu proveedor vía su nodo, si tiene uno en tu ciudad te costará menos que Infovía, que es un número de teléfono determinado. Los proveedores suelen tener nodos en ciudades importantes (Madrid, Barcelona..) o donde tienen su central. Un saludete Javi Gracias Javi. Por cierto, los CD´s me funcionaron a la primera y con lo que me quede mas sorprendido fue con la instalacion de X Windows, que se instalaron sin problemas (la primera vez que me pasa). Saludos, Octavio Pues me alegro que a alguien le funcionara, ya estaba yo un poco depre :( Un saludo Javi
ZIP IDE/ATAPI mal configurado
Saludos, Tengo una unidad ZIP 100 IDE/ATAPI interna y al arrancar Linux los parámetros Cilindros/Cabezas/Sectores salen mal configurados. ¿Alguien puede decirme cuales son los verdaderos? Por más que busco en ZIP HOWTOs no encuentro NI UNA referencia a unidades ZIP IDE. Gracias anticipadas.
Re: Sobre el leafnode
Hola, No exactamente, el leafnode te baja las noticias de los grupos a los que has accedido -o eso es lo que tiene que hacer. Es decir, tú intenta leer un grupo, y ya verás cómo a la próxima te lo baja. lo hago y me sale el fichero del grupo en los grupos interesantes del leafnode pero la próxima vez que ejecuto fetch -v no me baja dicho grupo. Solo me baja los grupos suscritos si previamente envio yo algún mensaje a un grupo cualquiera. Un saludo, J. Parera
Un cambio en Senmail (quizas no muy reciente)
Bueno pues por fin he resuelto el problema con sendmail.
Puesto que nadie de la lista ha sabido darme ninguna
pista sobre el particular mando esto para resaltar que
efectivamente parece que hay un comportamiento distinto
de sendmail con versiones anteriores. El problema quizas
venga por una mala configuración mía que anteriormente no
me daba problemas. Recuerdo que el problema consistía en
que sendmail tardaba un minuto exacto en empezar a hacer
cualquier cosa. Incluso mailq tardaba un minuto.
/etc/resolv.conf parecía no tener que ver.
Así las cosas decidí investigar el tema por mi mismo hasta
donde pudiera y luego con el máximo de dátos llamar a
Luis Ignacio para que me ayudara.
Empiezo por ejecutar mailq con el strace.
# strace mailq
connect(3, {sun_family=AF_UNIX, sun_path=/dev/log}, 16) = -1 EPROTOTYPE
(Protocol wrong type for socket)
close(3)= 0
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 3
fcntl(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
connect(3, {sun_family=AF_UNIX, sun_path=/dev/log}, 16) = 0
send(3, 18Oct 16 19:54:10 sendmail[961..., 101, 0) = 101
sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, NULL) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [ALRM], []) = 0
time([908560450]) = 908560450
getpid()= 9618
sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x804c2a0, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}) = 0
alarm(60) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ALRM], [ALRM]) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ALRM], [])= 0
pause(
=
Después busco en los fuentes de sendmail. (8.8.6)
En clock.c localizo lo que parece una implementación de sleep con ala
Y en otro fuente buscosleep(60)
==daemon.c===
** If _still_ no dot, wait for a while and try again -- it is
** possible that some service is starting up. This can result
** in excessive delays if the system is badly configured, but
** there really isn't a way around that, particularly given that
** the config file hasn't been read at this point.
** All in all, a bit of a mess.
*/
if (strchr(hostbuf, '.') == NULL !getcanonname(hostbuf, size, TRUE))
{
sm_syslog(LOG_CRIT, NOQID,
My unqualified host name (%s) unknown; sleeping for retry,
hostbuf);
message(My unqualified host name (%s) unknown; sleeping for retry,
hostbuf);
sleep(60);
if (!getcanonname(hostbuf, size, TRUE))
{
sm_syslog(LOG_ALERT, NOQID, unable to qualify my own
domain name (%s) -- using short name, hostbuf);
message(WARNING: unable to qualify my own domain
name (%s) -- using short name,
===
Llegado aquí se me ocurre repetir mailq y buscar el mensaje en
/var/log/... y Bingo.
===/var/log/mail.log==
nknown; sleeping for retry
Oct 16 19:38:29 localhost sendmail[9571]: My unqualified host name (localhost)
unknown; sleeping for retry
Oct 16 19:50:00 localhost sendmail[9607]: My unqualified host name (localhost)
unknown; sleeping for retry
Oct 16 19:51:00 localhost sendmail[9607]: unable to qualify my own domain name
(localhost) -- using short name
===
Bueno seguro que llegado a este punto alguíen se preguntará porque en
lugar de dar tantas vueltas no empecé mirando directamente /var/log/mail.log
La respuesta es que no lo vi. Busque en el lugar equivocado /var/log/messages
En este punto fué cuando recurro a Luis Ignacio.
===/etc/hosts==
127.0.0.1 localhostmidas
172.22.22.22tintin.ctv.estintin
172.22.22.21midas.ctv.es midas
172.22.22.23robin.ctv.es robin
===
Por indicación de Luis Ignacio elimino el último campo (alias=midas) de
la primera linea y todo vuelve a funcionar perfectamente.
A mi no me pregunteis porque funciona ahora. Luis solo me ha podido
decir que esa práctica de poner un alias a localhost no es buena
pero tampoco él sabe con exactitud la razón de este comportamiento
de sendmail. Parece que intenta averiguar el dominio de la máquina
y la configuración de /etc/hosts no se como terminaba despistandole.
Esto no pasaba en la versión de sendmail que yo usaba antes.
No es un bug pero creo interesante lanzar este aviso porque es
facil que alguien más tenga ese mismo problema ya que poner un
alias a locahost es algo que creo haber visto como práctica recomendable
en algún sitio aunque no recuerdo donde. Bueno ahora creo que no lo es.
Puede que alguno me diga que no me entero y que este cambio ya es
Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: kushni kushniIf there were some Debian oriented database, where one could kushniadd his experience about installation of Debian on some kushniunusual hardware, I would add mine about ThinkPad 380XD. THERE IS ! FAQ-O-MATIC ! (Excuse my yelling, I just wanted to advertise ;) ) Why don't you put an entry in this nice, underutilized tool. And reward Mr. Grobman for his effort. See: http://www.debian.org/fom/1.html John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre
RE: Hiding a Linux computer
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:01:59PM +0200, Rainer Clasen wrote: [snip] = try putting a send host-name statement in your dhclient.conf (see man 5 = dhclient.conf for details) = = I'd like to not even use the dhcp server but I think that would mean I'd = have to setup the Linux machine to be a DNS server wouldn't it? = = No! Not using dhcp means guessing a free IP - or better getting a real staic = one. = = I don't = know what that would do to the rest of the machines on our network, I = can't be messing them up or else I'll be in hot water. = = You can mess at least one box on your net - if you use the same IP as it. = = =Well if your network works like oursno problem :) = =Someone takes an IP no problem =DHCP server gives out that IP...and the unsuspecting user gets an IP =adress conflict. = =They call the helpdesk...helpdesk calls net eng... that adress is =taken out of the DHCP pool and put on the exclude list. = =-Steve ...Or it works like the helpdesk I work on: Someone grabs an IP address, DHCP gives out that address, user gets an IP conflict. User calls us, we call net eng, who bounces the static address and leases it to the DHCP user. Static user calls us, we ask them why they're screwing up the network. They complain, we offer to remove the computer from their desk and give it to someone who has a little less free time on their hands :-)... (Being on the Win95/MSOffice support team can really give you a crappy outlook on life...) Tom (Another person in a shop that keeps saying, We can't use Linux - there's no company to hold responsible if there's problems.) -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
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Debian Distribution/Web Page
[Well, I fowarded one negative comment. Here is a positive comment that webmaster recieved - Darren] I thought Debian was a rag-tag kludge loosely gopped together on the Internet. After reading reviews of Debian 2.0 and visiting your website, I have to say that I am extremely impressed. The information and instructions on your website are very thorough and well-written. I haven't seen or touched Debian Linux before, but, now I am scheming as to how I can scrounge another machine up to put Debian on I have experience with Slackware, Red Hat, and Caldera... now I just gotta try Debian out! I have watched as the various popular distributions have matured and am very excited about the direction and pace of Linux (straight up, fast). I wrote this just to let you know that Linux is kewl and I appreciate your fine efforts at making Linux better and more digestible to the unwashed masses (Windoze users) :-)
Re: Hiding a Linux computer
Quoting Hogland, Thomas E. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): =Someone takes an IP no problem =DHCP server gives out that IP...and the unsuspecting user gets an IP =adress conflict. = =They call the helpdesk...helpdesk calls net eng... that adress is =taken out of the DHCP pool and put on the exclude list. = =-Steve ...Or it works like the helpdesk I work on: Someone grabs an IP address, DHCP gives out that address, user gets an IP conflict. User calls us, we call net eng, who bounces the static address and leases it to the DHCP user. Static user calls us, we ask them why they're screwing up the network. They complain, we offer to remove the computer from their desk and give it to someone who has a little less free time on their hands :-)... Or you could use the debian dhcp daemon, so if someone grabs an ip, the dhcp server marks it as unavailable and doesn't hand it out. Makes sense to me... Mike Stone
Re: Hiding a Linux computer
Hogland, Thomas E. wrote: [snip] (Being on the Win95/MSOffice support team can really give you a crappy outlook on life...) Tom (Another person in a shop that keeps saying, We can't use Linux - there's no company to hold responsible if there's problems.) Like Microsoft would be held responsible? There aren't enough lawyers to go after M$. Sorry for the off-topic comment -- Greg Frye, APS California Environmental Protection Agency Air Resources Board Monitoring and Laboratory Division 1927 13th Street P. O. Box 2815 Sacramento, CA 95812-2815 voice: 916-324-8892 fax: 916-327-8217
Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?
Hi, John! Thanks for reminding me about that. Part of the reason I forgot is that there is no direct link to it from main Web page. Perhaps FAQ-O-Matic deserved it's place on Main page. Sasha. kushni kushniIf there were some Debian oriented database, where one could kushniadd his experience about installation of Debian on some kushniunusual hardware, I would add mine about ThinkPad 380XD. THERE IS ! FAQ-O-MATIC ! (Excuse my yelling, I just wanted to advertise ;) ) Why don't you put an entry in this nice, underutilized tool. And reward Mr. Grobman for his effort.
Re: Star Office
Dave Swegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 10:39 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So star office 4/5 can be downloaded for free for non-commercial use? well thats very nice of them, but how many people are going to be prepared to wait through a 50Mb download? Has anybody broken it up into 1MB pieces that can be downloaded gradually, or has anybody got it on CD that they can lend me? (UK address) One alternative is to use ncftp's forced continuation function. Start dowloading huge file, press CTRL-C when you want to stop, and whenever you want to continue the download just use 'get -C filename'. Just make sure you don't delete the semi-downloaded file. From the ftp man page (the one in netstd, not ncftp): reget remote-file [local-file] Reget acts like get, except that if local-file exists and is smaller than remote-file, local-file is presumed to be a par- tially transferred copy of remote-file and the transfer is continued from the apparent point of failure. If local-file does not exist ftp won't fetch the file. This command is useful when transferring very large files over networks that are prone to dropping connections. -- David Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kde Problem...
I had to run ldconfig as root... kde didn't have any difficulties locating it's shared-libraries after that. On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 01:30:52PM -0500, Evan Van Dyke wrote: Hrrm, ok now this is interesting... kfm _is_ running. xterm runs(via Ctrl-F2 and running it) but kvt does not. I got netscape up(had to write a script that killed the /usr/X11R6/lib from the LD_LIBRARY_PATH since it uses libc5 stuff) However, kvt still does not run... when I run it from w/in an xterm it says that it can't find libkdeutil.so.1 although it A) exists and B) is pointed to in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH. This is, obviously, a problem. : Any suggestions?
tetex-bin package removal problem -- FIX!!
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Darxus wrote: Okay, I was getting this... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-get -f install Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...dependency error Correcting dependencies...ok The following extra packages will be installed: tetex-base The following NEW packages will be installed: tetex-base 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0b/3498k of archives. After unpacking 15.9M will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 56061 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking tetex-base (from tetex-base_0.9.981008-1.deb) ... checking for old tex packages ... none. ** purging old tex files ** dpkg: error processing tetex-base_0.9.981008-1.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/texmf/doc', which is also in package bibtool dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Preparing to replace tetex-bin 0.9.981008-1 (using tetex-bin_0.9.981008-1.deb) ... Unpacking replacement tetex-bin ... rm: /usr/lib/texmf/web2c: is a directory dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... rm: /usr/lib/texmf/web2c: is a directory dpkg: error processing tetex-bin_0.9.981008-1.deb (--unpack): subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1 rm: /usr/lib/texmf/web2c: is a directory dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: tetex-base_0.9.981008-1.deb tetex-bin_0.9.981008-1.deb E: Sub-process returned an error code Okay, Greg_W on #debian on irc.debian.org said this: Greg_W darxus: a while ago someone mentioned moving the contents of /usr/lib/texmf/web2c to /var/lib/texmf/web2c and making a sym link... So I tried it. I had already downloaded the tetex-bin_0.9.981008-1.deb file from my favorite debian archive, and typed the following: mv /usr/lib/texmf/web2c /tmp ln -s /tmp/web2c//usr/lib/texmf/ dpkg -i --force-overwrite-dir tetex-bin_0.9.981008-1.deb dpkg -r tetex-bin and it WORKED!! I was able to remove tetex-bin. I then went through a few cycles of apt-get -f upgrade's dpkg -r's, but Greg_W's suggestion got me past the main problem. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-get -f upgrade Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...ok 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. sooo nice to see again :) ***PGP fingerprint = D5 EB F8 E7 64 55 CF 91 C2 4F E0 4D 18 B6 7C 27*** [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.op.net/~darxus Chaos reigns.
Re: replacment for quick books
Carl Vilbrandt wrote: Is there a replacement for Quicken/Quickbooks ? . . . for ACT, a contact management software ? without creating one in linux. gnucash - http://www.gnucash.org/ ksb
http apt source
Anyone have a source for dselect/apt http option other than the bnl.gov source for a USA user? Bnl.gov has been start/stopping frequently and the thruput often is very slow. I use the slink distribution. Thanks! -- Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP KEYS D/H 0xB65DC61A RSA 0x935801A9
Re: http apt source
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:51:13AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a source for dselect/apt http option other than the bnl.gov source for a USA user? Bnl.gov has been start/stopping frequently and the thruput often is very slow. I use the slink distribution. Thanks! deb http://debian.ssc.com/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free These are the folks (in Seattle) that publish _Linux Journal_. (and I'm sure they mirror slink as well as hamm) Luck, Pann -- What's All the Buzz About Linux? http://www.rdrop.com/users/pann/
Re: http apt source
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Anyone have a source for dselect/apt http option other than the : bnl.gov source for a USA user? Bnl.gov has been start/stopping : frequently and the thruput often is very slow. I use the slink : distribution. Thanks! http://debian.midco.net/debian ought to be (more or less) up to date. It's also available via ftp and rsync. There may be a few nits with the setup - let me know as work's been kicking my ass and I've been a bit tardy with all the maintenance. (However, a lot more space coming soon :) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: http apt source
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a source for dselect/apt http option other than the bnl.gov source for a USA user? Bnl.gov has been start/stopping frequently and the thruput often is very slow. I use the slink distribution. Thanks! http://ftp1.us.debian.org It was down for much of today, but is working now. I tried llug.sep.bnl.gov several hours ago and timed out on the update. It's used to be pretty fast. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: http apt source
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a source for dselect/apt http option other than the bnl.gov source for a USA user? Bnl.gov has been start/stopping frequently and the thruput often is very slow. I use the slink distribution. Thanks! http://ftp1.us.debian.org There is a list of about 30 mirrors at http://www.debian.org/~jgg/Mirrors Additions welcome at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason
slink and netstd package(s) question
Hi, all -- sorry for being slow but I have noticed that slink now hosts netstd package and a whole pile of separate daemon and client networking packages ( for example, telnet and telnetd). Can someone point me in the general direction of the html or somesuch document hwere I can learn about what these changes mean to my upgrading the packages between hamm and slink? And why did debian do that? I am sorry if I am just wasting your time, but it seems to me that I'll need to d/l about 5 or 10 packages instead of netstd only. *nix seemed much more friendlier before. damir
How big is Complete Debian install from LSL?
I want a distro with everything. i have about 3.7 gigs to spare. the lsl has the official, binary, source, non-free us non us non free. if i install EVERYTHING on these discs, how big will everything be? _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: replacment for quick books
Is there a replacement for Quicken/Quickbooks ? Good question. I still use NT for two purposes: QuickBooks and a voice-mail system. I could live without the voice mail system but until I find a decent accounting program I'm still in the dual-boot mode. -- Regards,| Debian GNU/ __ o http://www.debian.org . |/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy | / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ http://www.golgotha.net | because lockups should only be for convicts.
config printer.
Hi I have a HP 5L printer, but when I print something, the paper is running but nothing is printed. Could you help me figure out the problem? Thanks. Zheng Wang, Ph. D Department of Statistics and Applied Probability University of California, Santa Barbara E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://www.pstat.ucsb.edu/~zwang On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, W. Paul Mills wrote: Sounds like an irq problem. X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:14:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Zheng Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/21434 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 03a0a4e87fe9d857fd8dd623b3c9da57 Hi, When I install the Debian base, the network is working. But when I choose to install all package from the CD. The network is disconnected. Could I get some help to solve this problem? Thanks. -- /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * EMAIL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] * WWW= http://Mills-USA.com/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * pgp public key emailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
CD encyclopedias
There are quite a few encyclopedias on CDs nowadays and I was wondering if there was some way of reading them with Linux? Or, alternately, if there was a Linux version for any of them? I know this seems a bit off-the-wall but I thought I'd ask :) --- Just call me a sugar vampire D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key
win-stuff
There seems to be a growing proliferation of cheap Win-only stuff. Do any of you think that this would negatively impact Linux new user base? I imagine most people start out dual-booting their existent machines, and I would guess that finding out a lot of your stuff won't work is quite a turnoff. I get the impression this trend won't stop - and I'm not even saying this is the work of evil M$ empire :) comments? --- Just call me a sugar vampire D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key
Rsync push mirrors
Anyone know why there's a control file in the root of the debian site? There's one present on my mirror, at any rate. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: win-stuff
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, D'jinnie wrote: : There seems to be a growing proliferation of cheap Win-only stuff. Do : any of you think that this would negatively impact Linux new user base? I : imagine most people start out dual-booting their existent machines, and I : would guess that finding out a lot of your stuff won't work is quite a : turnoff. I get the impression this trend won't stop - and I'm not even : saying this is the work of evil M$ empire :) : comments? It's certainly disheartening to learn that your new system from Gateway has a WinModem that won't work with any OS other than 95/98 (it won't even work with NT!), and that the snazzy WinPrinter won't work either. I blame media like PC Magazine who seem to believe that Winhardware is a good thing, and needed! The thought process goes like this: Well, the OS doesn't use 90% of the processor power so we might as well use it for something. Rubbish, of course, but there you have it. If the average user isn't educated, there's little hope that manufacturers will cease building this crap into their systems. I've helped some friends order Gateways (we're in serious Gateway country here, and they do make nice home machines), and I usually confuse the salesperson when I rant against the WinModem :) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: High points of debian
Plelase read http://master.debian.org/~doogie/why-debian_me.txt Chris Frost wrote: I've got a few questions re: debian, coming from a longtime redhat user... I've been using redhat since around v4, and while I definately like it, sometimes things are a little unstable, I wish rpm were more powerful (I normally end up building my own and making rpm's, so that they register in the rpm database), really like the idea of a near-completly gpl'd os, and of course I like to toy :) So, what are some of the main reasons everyone here uses debian instead of something else (linux wise)? Are there any big drawbacks? (I'm experienced enough that building from tar balls isn't really a concern, so if the number of .deb's premade is small, that's fine.) thanks for the info, Chris - Visit Me At http://www.frostnet.coso.com/chris/ - - Public PGP Key: http://www.frostnet.coso.com/chris/pgp_key.phtml - -- The MS-DOS filesystem is nice for removable media. -- H. Peter Anvin
APT 0.1.7 released!
The APT team is proud to announce release 0.1.7 of the next-generation packaging tool, APT, which enables users to easily upgrade their whole system of Debian GNU/Linux packages to the latest versions on the world-wide network of Debian HTTP and FTP mirrors. This release covers a few issues with linking with the newest versions of the stdc++ library (2.9) and fixes a glitch in file URI handling with mismatched sizes. To experience all the other improvements for yourself, why not install APT on your Debian system and make sure your system is in synch with the latest and greatest security updates today? Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux APT Package Maintainer -- Brought to you by the letters J and C and the number 14. I wanna be Twist Barbie! -- Shonen Knife Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomorrow? http://www.debian.org/ I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox.
Re: CD encyclopedias
D'jinnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are quite a few encyclopedias on CDs nowadays and I was wondering if there was some way of reading them with Linux? The alternative I go for is to sign up with Encyclopedia Britannica on-line. One of the features I like is that they have the top of the news for the week with background references into the encyclopedia. They just lowered their price to a very affordable $50/year. www.eb.com -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Say it with MIME. Maintainer of comp.mail.mh and news.software.nn FAQs. If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.
Chap w/o Chap?
I just got off the phone with tech-support for my ISP. He (tried) to tell me that they've had CHAP for the last year and a half... and I never set it up. I thought it would be impossible for me to login that way...??? Where the system-admins incomp and unable to implement the security they wanted?? = * http://benham.net/index.html * * * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- ---* *Darren Benham * Version: 3.1 * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++ P+++$ L++* * * E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- * * Debian Developer * PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b DI+++ D++ * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * G++G+++ e h+ r* y+* * * --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---* =
ppp server gone?
There isn't a server process for ppp, is there? It just relies on the client telling the server to start uup? I couldn't use ppp for a few days, when the changes to libpam came out of sequence. I upgraded again today, and got the4 rest. I was able to make a single connection. When it flaked out, I was unable to create another. It ends with Oct 15 16:47:23 hawkins pppd[980]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x3919] Oct 15 16:47:53 hawkins pppd[980]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0x3919] Oct 15 16:48:23 hawkins pppd[980]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3 magic=0x3919] Oct 15 16:48:53 hawkins pppd[980]: No response to 4 echo-requests Oct 15 16:48:53 hawkins pppd[980]: Serial link appears to be disconnected. Oct 15 16:48:53 hawkins pppd[980]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0xb Peer not responding] Oct 15 16:48:56 hawkins pppd[980]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0xc Peer not responding] Oct 15 16:48:59 hawkins pppd[980]: Connection terminated. on this end No log exists on the host end. oddly, not even for the earlier connection: eyryttyp1:hawkls -ls /var/log/ppp* 0 -rw-r- 1 root adm 0 Oct 11 06:51 /var/log/ppp.log 12 -rw-r- 1 root adm 11768 Oct 10 17:54 /var/log/ppp.log.0 2 -rw-r- 1 root adm 1781 Oct 3 09:51 /var/log/ppp.log.1.gz 2 -rw-r- 1 root adm 1140 Sep 26 21:34 /var/log/ppp.log.2.gz 2 -rw-r- 1 root adm 1085 Sep 19 21:48 /var/log/ppp.log.3.gz 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 59 Sep 17 12:20 /var/log/pppupd.log eyryttyp1:hawk rick
Help with getting my mail
Hello all, I have had a fetchmail setup working for some time. However, today I started getting funny errors when I try to get my mail: reading message 9 of 19 (1710 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed: Connection refused fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop03.ca.us.ibm.net I can, however, telnet to port 25 of localhost: whitehouse$ telnet localhost 25 and hook up to the popserver manually. And interestingly after I telnet to port 25 of my machine, the next time (and only the next time) I use fetchmail, it seems to work. So what gives. I have an up-to-date Debian 2.0, 40meg RAM, etc.. Thanks in advance, Ben -- __oBenjamin White, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] -\,http://members.aol.com/benmd/home.html (_)/(_) Public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] or see my home page Key fingerprint = DB0F124D 477EA116 3113F306 DC1D4858
Is Supra 336i a Winmodem?
I have been trying to get my modem to work in debian, and unfortunately, unsuccessfully. I have 486DX4, it's got SupraExpress 336i Sp modem installed in it. My primary boot right now is Win95, until I can get debian setup. Modem works perfectly with Windows. In debian what happens is: Modem is on COM3, at least this is what Windows tells me. setserial /dev/ttyS2 gives me output : UART unknown, IRQ 4, Port 0x03e8 When I run wvdialconf, it tells me that modem was not detected, asks if it's in use by any other programs, etc. Any idea why is this not working? How can I check if this is a Winmodem? Any suggestions, please? Andrew /** * Andrew Ivanov * * email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * ICQ: 12402354 * **/
Re: Chap w/o Chap?
Darren Benham wrote: I just got off the phone with tech-support for my ISP. He (tried) to tell me that they've had CHAP for the last year and a half... and I never set it up. I thought it would be impossible for me to login that way...??? Where the system-admins incomp and unable to implement the security they wanted?? The tech guy at my ISP (Mindspring) told me they were using PAP, but not until I asked if they were using CHAP or PAP. I then find out for myself that they use neither. I think the guy was just used to multiple choice questions and didn't like the 'none of the above' choice. -Mitch
Re: Chap w/o Chap?
Darren Benham writes: I just got off the phone with tech-support for my ISP. He (tried) to tell me that they've had CHAP for the last year and a half... and I never set it up. I thought it would be impossible for me to login that way...??? Many ISP's support both PAP/CHAP and scripted logins. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: ? WinModem
I believe it is called isapnptools. On 15-Oct-98 David Sherow wrote: Where can I get isapnp? Shaleh wrote: Win modems are almost always made by US Robotics. You should only need to type pon. You also need to ensure that you have told ppp to use the right com port. If the modem is a plug and play modem, you need to install the isapnp tools and follow their instructions. On 15-Oct-98 David Sherow wrote: How can a person tell if they have a WinModem. Or I'm doing something wrong, because I can't connect to my ISP using pon providername it is acting like it is on but it doesn't dial. -- Best regards /-\ /***\ /***/ David Sherow \**\ /*/ President, Sherow Enterprises \***\ \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /*/ \*\ http://www.ourtownusa.net/~sherow /**/ \**/ \/ -- E-Mail: Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16-Oct-98 Time: 00:14:17 This message was sent by XFMail --
How to change Timezone...
WOuld someone knowledgable about linux tell me how to change the timezone info? The computer was set up in EST5EDT, but is now in CST6CDT. I have chanted /etc/timezone to referance the new zone, but 'date' still shows EDT even after reboot... Im sure this is a simple little fix, but it would be very helpful to have! --Evan
Any Debian aware folks in Myrtle Beach, SC, USA?
Howdy all. I have a user in Myrtle Beach/Seaside area of South Carolina, USA who needs some help. System disconnected while downloading packages, ppp-pam is installed, but not libpam. Now they can't get connected to their ISP so I can finish the install. Need someone familiar w/ Debian who can help. Anyone? Just need ppp and/or libpam on a diskette for them to get back in shape. CD won't do any good for them - old laptop w/o PCMCIA or CD-ROM drive... Thanks Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network DesignVoice: +1-419-529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:+1-419-529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1301 USA
Re: How to change Timezone...
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Evan Van Dyke wrote: WOuld someone knowledgable about linux tell me how to change the timezone info? The computer was set up in EST5EDT, but is now in CST6CDT. I have chanted /etc/timezone to referance the new zone, but 'date' still shows EDT even after reboot... Im sure this is a simple little fix, but it would be very helpful to have! Run tzconfig
Re: -URGENT- exim:incoming message frozen
Ok. The problem was that in hosts file I find the next line: 193.231.157.1routerrouter.citon.ro After I switch the plce of the router word with router.citon.ro everything goes to normal. Thanks \\\___/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) -oOOo-(_)-oOOo *Bubulac Angela Tatiana - National Institute for RD of Materials Physics* * Bucuresti - Magurele P.O.B. MG-7 * * Romania* *e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | phone :401-7805385 int.1380 * *[EMAIL PROTECTED] | 401-7806925 * * | 401-7804573 * --Oooo oooO ( ) ( )) / \ ((_/ \_) On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, ing.Bubulac Angela Tatiana wrote: for receiveing 1998-10-15 09:20:57 0zTq92-pr-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=alpha1.infim.ro [193.231.44.2] P=smtp S=1313 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1998-10-15 09:20:57 0zTq92-pr-00 remote host address for router.citon.ro is the local host 1998-10-15 09:20:57 0zTq92-pr-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=lookuphost defer (-1): remote host address is the local host 1998-10-15 09:20:57 0zTq92-pr-00 Frozen You need to add router.citron.ro to the local_domains entry if you want to accept mail as that domain. Exim sees that the MX or A record points to the local machine but the local config file is not set up to accept mail for that domain. George Bonser The Linux We're never going out of business sale at an FTP site near you!
Re: SATAN .deb?
At 14:16 Uhr +0100 15.10.1998, M.C. Vernon wrote: it's an essential admin tool for checking your setup. This is the reason why it shouldn't be prepackaged. I really can't imagine anybody concerned about security trusting a prepackaged security scanner. Personally, I wouldn't. That's perhaps because two vital parts of my Debian 2.0 system were broken the way the *.deb files installed them. (cnews and UUCP) I think I'll steer clear of *.deb files in the future and go the *.tar.gz route. YMMV, though.
Re: Hiding a Linux computer
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 01:35:49PM -0800, Hogland, Thomas E. wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:01:59PM +0200, Rainer Clasen wrote: [snip] = try putting a send host-name statement in your dhclient.conf (see man 5 = dhclient.conf for details) = = I'd like to not even use the dhcp server but I think that would mean I'd = have to setup the Linux machine to be a DNS server wouldn't it? = = No! Not using dhcp means guessing a free IP - or better getting a real staic = one. = = I don't = know what that would do to the rest of the machines on our network, I = can't be messing them up or else I'll be in hot water. = = You can mess at least one box on your net - if you use the same IP as it. = = =Well if your network works like oursno problem :) = =Someone takes an IP no problem =DHCP server gives out that IP...and the unsuspecting user gets an IP =adress conflict. = =They call the helpdesk...helpdesk calls net eng... that adress is =taken out of the DHCP pool and put on the exclude list. = =-Steve ...Or it works like the helpdesk I work on: Someone grabs an IP address, DHCP gives out that address, user gets an IP conflict. User calls us, we call net eng, who bounces the static address and leases it to the DHCP user. Static user calls us, we ask them why they're screwing up the network. They complain, we offer to remove the computer from their desk and give it to someone who has a little less free time on their hands :-)... Well... I work at a hospital... ther eis no telling what the person using the IP was doing (plus...its always possible they don't even know what an IP is and it may not even be their fault). Someone migh thave to answer for something if Net Eng compromised patient care just to smite a user and teach someone a lesson. besides... half the machines are Macs using dynamic adressing in MacTCP (which is NOT dhcp)...so they get an error...then it steals a new IP...90% of the time they wont even call the Help Desk SOon everyone will be on Catalyst 5000 Switches... then we can really track them down :) (Being on the Win95/MSOffice support team can really give you a crappy outlook on life...) esp when Outlook sucks as much as it does! (I had a user specifically ask me to have their new Outlook acount removed and to put them back on Helix (unix) e-mail) In any case..thats why I (the only Macintosh Tech Supporter in our team) am hopeing to get out of this line of work and into one where I can use Unix systems all day long. (Another person in a shop that keeps saying, We can't use Linux - there's no company to hold responsible if there's problems.) Bah...Chances are its your own fault anyway... besides...just blame it all on Network VooDoo and those Gremlins in the closet! -Steve who is amazed that anyone thinks the ability to get support for an OS is more important than having the OS actually work -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux pgpKcFfcv10N6.pgp Description: PGP signature
I can't compile anymore
I've trashed something. I've installed gcc from the 2.0 disks, it doesn't compile the linux kernel. Tried installing egcc, nope. It doesn't find some files. Tried downloading egcc from the slink directory. Same error. So this is the error I get when compiling kernel 2.1.125 with egcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux # make xconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) egcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36, from scripts/split-include.c:26: /usr/include/errnos.h:24: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux # What shall I reinstall to get that file at his place ? Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.infogroup.it ik5pvx| http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/8999 Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.1.122 #7 Thu Sep 17 13:56:01 CEST 1998 i586 unknown
Exchange root and swap partitions?
Problem. Not enough space for my root partition on hdb. At 100% use, I can't even send messages. I'd like to shrink a DOS partition on hda, expand the adjacent Linux swap partition into the freed space, then switch the root and swap partitions. One additional issue: I'll be redoing OS/2's Boot Manager in the middle to get the new partition on the menu. This will need a format of the swap partition to something OS/2 recognizes. Afterwards, I'll redo the fs for that partition. Is this possible?? Is the resizing/formatting a problem?? I saw an earlier post about moving root to a new partition but that didn't seem to cover this problem. I'll have sufficient swap afterwards, FWIW. Thanks for any help! Kenward -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
X and keyboard layouts
I've just switched from RedHat (ohh, it's a convert! :)) and I've -nealry- got the hang of this all, now. Finally. One of the last remaining annoyances: I use a modified dvorak keyboard layout (ie: not-quite-dvorak, but close) and do most of my work in text-mode consoles. But sometimes I have to boot up X to run Netscape or PilotManager. RedHad's X setup had -something- that automatically pulled my keyboard layout out of loadkeys and put it into X so I -didn't- have to figure out a xmodmap file (which I don't have made up) and all that stuff. I figure Debian can prob'ly do anything RedHat can do ... is there a way for this? bekj -- : --Neophilic-Hacker-Grrl-Geek-Eclectic-Gay-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who : does not want to adopt a rational attitude. -- Karl Popper
Re: debian latest version?
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:14:33PM -0600, Jason Herring Dale Davis wrote: what is debian's lattest version At the moment, 2.0 . I keep hearing about debian 2.1... We've just entered a code freeze for 2.1, meaning that we hope to release 2.1 in the not too distant future. and where can I find a list of supported hardware and package version information?? Start at the website: http://www.debian.org . HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: debian latest version?
Goto http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ 4. Compatibility issues and you may find your answer there. J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:14:33PM -0600, Jason Herring Dale Davis wrote: what is debian's lattest version At the moment, 2.0 . I keep hearing about debian 2.1... We've just entered a code freeze for 2.1, meaning that we hope to release 2.1 in the not too distant future. and where can I find a list of supported hardware and package version information?? Start at the website: http://www.debian.org . HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
exim: never stop Mail delivery failed
hello, I think the problems never stops. This is one of the sense of life. Although the message I sent arrive to its destination (in my case a user in doamin citon.ro) continuouslyI receive messages like this (even from messages that was send yesterday): Please tell me what is wrong or what is happen. Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:23:02 -0700 From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Permission denied: failed to chdir to /root: retry timeout exceeded -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from alpha1.infim.ro [193.231.44.2] by router.citon.ro with smtp (Exim 1.92 #1 (Debian)) id 0zUCC9-0004Yw-00; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:53:37 -0700 Received: from localhost by alpha1.infim.ro; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/20May97-1214PM) id AA04147; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:54:00 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:54:00 +0200 (EET) From: ing.Bubulac Angela Tatiana [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: maric [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Au fost doua probleme. Fara ici nu puteam rezolva si a doua problema. On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, maric wrote: Buna dimineata. Multumesc pt. rezolvare. Ai gasit ceva, sau ne-au conectat cei de la ici? P.S. Before the exim starts to function normal I had a lot of frozen messages.
Re: Exchange root and swap partitions?
In BwTCcC.A.87D.CLvJ2@murphy, on 10/16/98 at 12:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Problem. Not enough space for my root partition on hdb. At 100% use, I can't even send messages. I'd like to shrink a DOS partition on hda, expand the adjacent Linux swap partition into the freed space, then switch the root and swap partitions. One additional issue: I'll be You don't really have to move everything around unless you have other reasons too. Consider this alternative: Just shrink that dos partition, and create an extra partition in the free space. Then use 'du' and find a subdirectory on the existing root that is approximately that size, and move that subdirectory only to the new partition. (Change the directory to a mount point for the new partition) Less data to move around, less work. Moving the root can be tricky at times. redoing OS/2's Boot Manager in the middle to get the new partition on the menu. This will need a format of the swap partition to something OS/2 recognizes. Afterwards, I'll redo the fs for that partition. Os/2's boot manager does not need to understand the partition it boots! You can run os/2's fdisk and add anything to the menu, even linux partitions. OS/2's fdisk will display a linux partition as type 83, a linux swap partition will show up as type 82 There is no need to temporarily format the partition for os/2, it does not need a drive letter for this to work. If os/2 won't add linux to the boot menu then it may be some other problem, such as the infamous 1024 cylinder limit. If this bothers you, put the kernel in a small partition of its own below cyl 1024, and install lilo in that partition's boot sector. You don't have to move root for this. Is this possible?? Is the resizing/formatting a problem?? I saw an earlier post about moving root to a new partition but that didn't seem to cover this problem. I'll have sufficient swap afterwards, FWIW. Resizing and formatting should work fine. If you want to move root like this, change the partition type, run mkfs, and then do the copying. Use the correct parameters so that links, mount points and the files in /dev are copied correctly. You do have enough RAM to run without swapping while making the transfer? Helge Hafting -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: I can't compile anymore
I've trashed something. I've installed gcc from the 2.0 disks, it doesn't compile the linux kernel. Tried installing egcc, nope. It doesn't find some files. Tried downloading egcc from the slink directory. Same error. So this is the error I get when compiling kernel 2.1.125 with egcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux # make xconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) egcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36, from scripts/split-include.c:26: /usr/include/errnos.h:24: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux # What shall I reinstall to get that file at his place ? linux/errno.h is in libc6-dev. You also should not try to compile 2.0 kernels with egcc, use gcc2.7.2 instead. The problem is that the 2.0 kernels contain some bugs that are exposed only by the more agressive optimization techniques present in egcc. The 2.2 kernel-to-be will not have these bugs anymore (well, it is supposed not to have them). HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: How big is Complete Debian install from LSL?
I want a distro with everything. i have about 3.7 gigs to spare. the lsl has the official, binary, source, non-free us non us non free. if i install EVERYTHING on these discs, how big will everything be? If you install EVERYTHING, you will be screwed. There are many packages in debian that contain equivalent or comparable functionality and conflict with each other. Besides this, I'd guess that 3.7 gigs should be able to hold the biggest debian that can be had consistently. However, think twice about installing everything. Chances for problems and conflicts to turn up grow exponentially with the number of packages installed. It is usually much nicer to install just the stuff you need. Packages can be added and removed as your interests and needs change. This is a point where debian really shines: once it is installed it is very easy to maintain. HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Lilo/MBR boot problem: 1FA:
I'm hoping to run a course including the installation towards the end of next week, but the machines I'll be using have a problem. When debian is installed to boot off the hard disk, a prompt: 1FA: comes up. According to the docs, this should mean that I can boot off partition 1 of the hard disk, or a floppy, but booting off partition one doesn't work. Any solutions to this problem? I know other people have had it, but haven't yet seen a solution on the lists. The disk controller is a AHA-2940 (SCSI), but booting NT from the BIOS is no problem... I know the problem is tied in some way to Lilo and the MBR, but don't know what to do to fix it... Please respond to my email as well as the list, since I read the list only through the web pages, and need an answer fairly soon (since we may need to cancel the course...). Cheers -duncan
Re: X and keyboard layouts
Bek Oberin hat gesagt: // Bek Oberin wrote: One of the last remaining annoyances: I use a modified dvorak keyboard layout (ie: not-quite-dvorak, but close) and do most of my work in text-mode consoles. But sometimes I have to boot up X to run Netscape or PilotManager. RedHad's X setup had -something- that automatically pulled my keyboard layout out of loadkeys and put it into X so I -didn't- have to figure out a xmodmap file (which I don't have made up) and all that stuff. I figure Debian can prob'ly do anything RedHat can do ... is there a way for this? I don't know if debian has this automatized like Redhat somewhere, but you can use xkeycaps to generate a xmodmap file for your layout. But maybe you can setup your keyboard with the basic X configuration tool /usr/bin/X11/XF86Setup or /usr/sbin/xbase-configure. -- ____ Frank Barknecht __ __ trip\ \ / /wire __ / __// __ /__/ __// // __ \ \/ / __ \\ ___\ / / / / / / / // // /\ \\ ___\\ \ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_//_// / \ \\_\\_\ /_/\_\
Re: exim: never stop Mail delivery failed
Ok. It work but now I receive in that user a lot of messages like that: Cron[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/sbin/exim -q false with the next contnBet 1998-10-16 12:09:01 queue run: process 23976 crashed with signal 11 while delivering 0zUD7c-0004xc-00 1998-10-16 12:09:02 queue run: process 23981 crashed with signal 11 while delivering 0zUDM9-00055V-00 1998-10-16 12:09:03 queue run: process 23986 crashed with signal 11 while delivering 0zUDaf-0005Cy-00 1998-10-16 12:09:03 queue run: process 23991 crashed with signal 11 while delivering 0zUE3h-0005TT-00 1998-10-16 12:09:04 queue run: process 23996 crashed with signal 11 while delivering 0zUElF-0005qr-00 The paniclog and mainlog files increase rapidly. I installed exim when I installed debian with dselect and I was root. this is a sample from mainlog file: 6 12:23:10 0zTurN-98-00 = maric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_del 6 12:23:10 0zTurN-98-00 Completed 6 12:23:11 0zTucu-8t-00 = maric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_del 6 12:23:11 0zTucu-8t-00 Completed 6 12:23:11 0zTvKP-AT-00 = maric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_del 6 12:23:11 0zTvKP-AT-00 Completed ... 1998-10-16 12:46:51 refused relay (host reject) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED] H= 1998-10-16 12:53:01 Start queue run: pid=24401 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zTnfQ-4E-00 ** root@: unrouteable mail domain 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zUFwG-0006Lb-00 Error while handling error message: at least one malformed recipient 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zTnfQ-4E-00 Process failed (1) when writing error message to root@ 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zTtRH-us-00 Message is frozen 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zTq92-pr-00 Message is frozen rejectlog file: 1998-10-16 12:14:57 refused relay (host reject) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=(maric) [193.231.157.5] -- 1998-10-16 12:46:51 refused relay (host reject) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]H=(maric) [193.231.157.5] -- Any suggestion? TIA \\\___/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) -oOOo-(_)-oOOo *Bubulac Angela Tatiana - National Institute for RD of Materials Physics* * Bucuresti - Magurele P.O.B. MG-7 * * Romania* *e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | phone :401-7805385 int.1380 * *[EMAIL PROTECTED] | 401-7806925 * * | 401-7804573 * --Oooo oooO ( ) ( )) / \ ((_/ \_) On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, George Bonser wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Bubulac Angela Tatiana wrote: hello, I think the problems never stops. This is one of the sense of life. Although the message I sent arrive to its destination (in my case a user in doamin citon.ro) continuouslyI receive messages like this (even from messages that was send yesterday): Please tell me what is wrong or what is happen. Create an alias in the /etc/alias file for root that points to your user account, for example: root: tatia Root mail will then be delivered to a suer account and you will not have problems will attempting to read anything in /root. I wonder what the real problem is ... I think it is because exim does not run as root so when it looks for a .forward or filter file for the root user, it fails to gain access to that directory. George Bonser The Linux We're never going out of business sale at an FTP site near you!
Re: Hiding a linux computer
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:01:59PM +0200, Rainer Clasen wrote: No! Not using dhcp means guessing a free IP - or better getting a real staic one. There are other reasons for using dhcp. I have a notebook and it's very handy for getting a relevant IP wherever I happen to be. At home I have a static IP registered in the DNS, but I get a dynamic one at the other places I use it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org pgpe1sEInL2On.pgp Description: PGP signature
cdrom device not there
After reinstalling my system (hamm) from scratch I have no /dev/cdrom Is this obselete ? If yes then what is the name of the new device ? I have tried ./MAKEDEV cdrom and got an error Any ideas ? George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html ---
eterm broken dependancies?
Dear all, The new eterm depends on eterm-backgrounds, which is a package I can't seem to find - the backgrounds packages are eterm-bg and eterm-bg-ok Is this a bug, or am I being stupid again? Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: cdrom device not there
After reinstalling my system (hamm) from scratch I have no /dev/cdrom Is this obselete ? If yes then what is the name of the new device ? I have tried ./MAKEDEV cdrom and got an error Any ideas ? George /dev/cdrom is not a device, but a symbolic link to the cdrom device. If you have an ide cdrom, it will usually point to something like /dev/hdb (slave on primary port), /dev/hdc (master on secondary port) or /dev/hdd (slave on secondary port). You probably need to do something like cd /dev ln -s hdb cdrom as root. HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Format of .deb files
I am trying to get to grips with Debian, and I'd like to browse through the documentation. The problem I have is that my Debian PC is at one home, whereas the PC where I have the most chance to read documentation, print things out, follow up references, etc, is at work. My current work PC is Windows only [:-(] but it does have a CD drive and I have the Debian CDs. My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages on a Windows box? Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities). If not, is there any other way I can browse the documentation (/usr/doc, /usr/man, /usr/info) for debian while not actually at a PC with debian running? Is it available on the web? Thanks in advance for any help... Paul Moore.
Re: Format of .deb files
My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages on a Windows box? Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities). deb files are `ar' archives, they contain gzipped tar files, one of which contains the data, and another one contains the control scripts. HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: Format of .deb files
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:06:25PM +0100, Moore, Paul wrote: My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages on a Windows box? Probably, though I don't know how much work is involved. Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities). deb(5) documents the format. Basically, it's an ar(1) archive containing tar.gz archives. If not, is there any other way I can browse the documentation (/usr/doc, /usr/man, /usr/info) for debian while not actually at a PC with debian running? Perhaps setting up a dwww server is an option. (see http://dwww.jimpick.com/) Is it available on the web? See http://dwww.jimpick.com/dwww/ for a demo. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
RE: Format of .deb files
From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities). deb(5) documents the format. Basically, it's an ar(1) archive containing tar.gz archives. Great. I'll pick up man 5 deb tonight and I can start hacking... If not, is there any other way I can browse the documentation (/usr/doc, /usr/man, /usr/info) for debian while not actually at a PC with debian running? Perhaps setting up a dwww server is an option. (see http://dwww.jimpick.com/) Is it available on the web? See http://dwww.jimpick.com/dwww/ for a demo. Actually, this gives me 90% of what I need directly. Brilliant! Thanks for the help. I think that's the record for the fastest ever help I've ever had with a problem - your reply was back in a few minutes after I posted!!! Paul.
Re: Safe rm available?
According to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am using a program called safedelete that you alias to rm. It is not a Debian package but is found on Sunsite. It saves the files in a directory in your home directory for a configurable amount of days. I still like it very much, but I just recently ran into a problem: The size of the trashcan. It filled up my partition, so that I had to manually remove some of the files. So I started looking for some method of restricting the maximum total size or the maximum size of files to be put in the .Safedelete dir, but couldn't find anything. How did you guys solve this? Or do you have infinite harddisks? :-) A quick second question: When I run undelete without arguments I can't read anything because the screen switches away. Anybody have a solution to this? Thanks, Andy. -- Andy Spiegl, University of Technology, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.spiegl.de Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for my PGP key o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~
DRIVERS FOR DFE-530TX (D-LINK)
Anybody knows where i can get DFE-530TX (D-Link) drivers? Thank you for you time, Esper ---BeginMessage--- Necesito los drives para la tarjeta de red DFE-530TX (D-LINK) para linux. Si alguien sabe donde poder conseguirlos que lo diga. Un saludo, Esper P.D.MUCHAS GRACIAS ---End Message---
Re: High points of debian
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 04:37:31AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Plelase read http://master.debian.org/~doogie/why-debian_me.txt Chris Frost wrote: I've got a few questions re: debian, coming from a longtime redhat user... I've been using redhat since around v4, and while I definately like it, sometimes things are a little unstable, I wish rpm were more powerful (I normally end up building my own and making rpm's, so that they register in the rpm database), really like the idea of a near-completly gpl'd os, and of course I like to toy :) So, what are some of the main reasons everyone here uses debian instead of something else (linux wise)? Are there any big drawbacks? (I'm experienced enough that building from tar balls isn't really a concern, so if the number of .deb's premade is small, that's fine.) I installed Debian about 2 months ago, after using Redhat for about 18 months (I still have it installed as well). So far I prefer Debian, although not by a huge amount; Redhat is a very good installation. As everyone says, upgrading seems to be more problem-free. What I 've particularly appreciated in Debian is getting immediate helpful replies from the maintainers of packages. On at least two occasions these have enabled me to get programs working that I would otherwise have given up on. This is a very big plus. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk
netscape4.x cannot read debian-user list archives
I have installed netscape4.5b2 under debian2.0. When I try to read debian-user mailing list archives (e.g. from September, august) first time it's O.K. but next times on the same month archives netscape just hangs I have to kill it (the archives are very big). When I try to read much smaller archives (e.g. debian-changes, September) it's all right. I had the same behavior using netscape4.x, but netscape3.x reads the archives well. Does anybody have any idea what causes such behavior of netscape ? May be I have configured netscape wrong. My be I some hint what change in preferences? Jan Krupa
Re: cdrom device not there
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 11:08:17AM +0100, G. Kapetanios wrote ... After reinstalling my system (hamm) from scratch I have no /dev/cdrom Is this obselete ? If yes then what is the name of the new device ? /dev/cdrom is just a link to another device. Is your CDROM Drive Atapi or SCSI ? If Atapi, and 1st controller, master: /dev/hda or 1st controller, slave: /dev/hdb (most cases) or 2nd controller, master: /dev/hdc or 2nd controller, slave: /dev/hdd Dominik. -- Dominik Rothert WWW: http://domix.rhein.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: BB8F 7348 18AE 565F 6ABA 453F A964 3160 B20A 5726 PGP Fingerprint: 70 1C 59 75 D8 30 65 3F FE 1E D8 B5 89 EA 4B 5A
Re: DRIVERS FOR DFE-530TX (D-LINK)
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 01:48:27PM +0100, jrivas wrote: Anybody knows where i can get DFE-530TX (D-Link) drivers? Isn't that one using a DEC chipset? If so, try the tulip driver. Regards, Jeff -- It's time to close windows and open source. Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds.
Re: netscape4.x cannot read debian-user list archives
[ netscape 4 chokes on mailing list archives ] I recognize this behaviour. I suppose what is wrong is the netscape has some, er, `shortcommings' (i.e. bugs). I always use lynx to access the debian mailing list archives or bug-track system. HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
slink :i386 : net :netstd_3.07-5.deb
Just updated my system and things came apart around the above with the following error messages using APT ##Preparing to replace netstd 3.07-4 (using .../net/netstd_3.07-5.deb) ... Can't locate DebianNet.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.005 /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 /usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/sbin/update-inetd line 23. dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... Can't locate DebianNet.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.005 /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 /usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/sbin/update-inetd line 23. dpkg: error processing /mnt/data/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/netstd_3.07-5.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 Can't locate DebianNet.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.005 /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 /usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /var/lib/dpkg/info/netstd.postinst line 4. dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: /mnt/data/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/netstd_3.07-5.deb E: Sub-process returned an error code Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall again Press enter to continue. # as a result my networking ie ppp fails after disconnects, stays up sort off :). I used ifconfig to bring it down and restarted pppd. Hence im able to post this. I did a search for DebianNet.pm and found this in /usr/lib/perl5 so i created a link in /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 to it which seemed to allow the package to install.( i remember perl 5.005?? running into probs when it upgraded last time but it fixed itself or so i thougth ?). Now was this safe to do ???. I couldnt uninstall it because of numerous sigh dependencies. Thanx all. John
Re: I can't compile anymore
E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: linux/errno.h is in libc6-dev. You also should not try to compile 2.0 Ok, reinstalled libc6-dev, I get these messages further on in the compilation: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux # make bzImage make modules make modules_installegcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/scratch/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o init/main.o init/main.c /usr/include/asm/string.h: In function `__constant_memcpy': In file included from /usr/include/linux/string.h:39, from /usr/include/asm/termios.h:58, from /usr/include/linux/termios.h:5, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:26, from init/main.c:17: /usr/include/asm/string.h:443: warning: control reaches end of non-void function /usr/include/asm/string.h: In function `__constant_c_and_count_memset': /usr/include/asm/string.h:594: warning: control reaches end of non-void function /scratch/usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h: At top level: In file included from init/main.c:31: /scratch/usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:59: conflicting types for `kfree' /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:7: previous declaration of `kfree' init/main.c: In function `get_options': init/main.c:379: warning: subscript has type `char' init/main.c: At top level: init/main.c:857: `pci_setup' undeclared here (not in a function) init/main.c:857: initializer element for `raw_params[1].setup_func' is not constant init/main.c: In function `start_kernel': init/main.c:1154: warning: implicit declaration of function `dcache_init' init/main.c:1155: warning: implicit declaration of function `vma_init' init/main.c:1158: too few arguments to function `inode_init' init/main.c:1159: too few arguments to function `file_table_init' init/main.c: In function `do_basic_setup': init/main.c:1229: too few arguments to function `pci_init' init/main.c: In function `init': init/main.c:1325: warning: implicit declaration of function `lock_kernel' init/main.c:1334: warning: implicit declaration of function `unlock_kernel' make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux # again, linux kernel to compile is 2.1.125 I would like to know if someone else is having these problems or if I just trashed the system somehow (how? :-) Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.infogroup.it ik5pvx| http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/8999 Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.1.122 #7 Thu Sep 17 13:56:01 CEST 1998 i586 unknown
Help! FAT magic number corrupted!
Hi all--- I'm new to Linux, and in the process of hacking cluelessly with my hard-drive setup I've managed to trash some vital part of my hard drive. Here's the general setup: /dev/hda1 (~100MB) Win95, formerly bootable, formerly DOS /dev/hda2 (~16MB) linux swap /dev/hda3 (~200mb) linux main: bootable, mounted as / /dev/hda4 (0) /dev/hda5 (~75mb) linux /var /dev/hda6 (~250mb) linux /usr a few days ago, i was hacking on something (LILO?), and flipped the bootable flag on /dev/hda1 to OFF. I also changed /dev/hda1 from a DOS partition to a Win95 FAT16 LBA partition, not thinking that this might pose a problem. (/dev/hda1 has win95 loaded on it, but I corrupted all the long filenames when I was repartitioning it. when it was labeled as a DOS partition, I could get into it using linux.) cfdisk returned an error as it was trying to write; silly me, i didn't write down what it said, but i figured nothing was seriously wrong. I rebooted. when I rebooted, I got an error: Kernel Panic: [something to the effect of, this drive's f*ed up] 03:01 I looked around and found a rootboot disk on the net (tomsrtbt), dutifully created it using another computer, and booted from a floppy. (My Debian rootboot disk wasn't working, still isn't, dunno why. sigh) Using a boot floppy, I can mount and read /dev/hda3 just fine, but I can't seem to run any of the binaries on it. (for example, cfdisk). I can't get into /dev/hda1 at all. So: is there a way to fix the hard drive, and /dev/hda1, without losing significant amounts of data? If so, what is it? Thanks in advance. -Renee Landrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] (main) - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (forwarding)
Re: slink :i386 : net :netstd_3.07-5.deb
On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, John Leget wrote: Just updated my system and things came apart around the above with the following error messages using APT downgrade to perl5.004. perl5.005 has some problems and was removed from slink.(checked yesterday, though). []s, Mario O.de Menezes | Many are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP | is the Lord's purpose that prevails Prov. 19.21
HELP:pgp5 doesn't work
hello, i am still trying to get pgp5 to work the selftests work, i can encrypt a file with pgp, i can decrypt it using my key, i can list the available keys etc. now i added the key of a friend, receivend an encrypted attachmet to a mail, when trying to decrypt i get the message couldn#t decrypt key with ID x not found, now when i lsit keys i see that the key with that ID exists so why does pgpv doesn't take it? ciao bboett == acount at earthling net http://erm6.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett === Unsolicited commercial email is NOT welcome at this email address To contact me replace acount by bboett in above addresses
Debian on Notebooks
Hi there, I am looking for a new laptop for debian. If you run debian nicely, please let me know. I had some problems installing and running debian on my current laptop, and if I can avoid these on my next buy, I would be very glad. So please drop a note if you are happy with your installation. I would like to buy one with TFT screen 1024x789 w 32k colors in X, if possible with a nice resolution with SVGATextMode. Most information I get is on 'how can I run X on my laptop', I look for information the other way 'round. On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Infomed wrote: Acabo de comprar un notebook (ayer) y quisiera instalar Linux en él. Podriais aclararme cosas ???. Even tough I did not understand everything (Julián, please try to write english, even if it is difficult for you, people will understand better) it seems the same question. Thanks, -- Lukas Eppler (godot)
Re: Help! FAT magic number corrupted!
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 09:07:14AM -0400, me wrote: Hi all--- I'm new to Linux, and in the process of hacking cluelessly with my hard-drive setup I've managed to trash some vital part of my hard drive. Here's the general setup: /dev/hda1 (~100MB) Win95, formerly bootable, formerly DOS /dev/hda2 (~16MB) linux swap /dev/hda3 (~200mb) linux main: bootable, mounted as / /dev/hda4 (0) /dev/hda5 (~75mb) linux /var /dev/hda6 (~250mb) linux /usr a few days ago, i was hacking on something (LILO?), and flipped the bootable flag on /dev/hda1 to OFF. I also changed /dev/hda1 from a DOS partition to a Win95 FAT16 LBA partition, not thinking that this might pose a problem. (/dev/hda1 has win95 loaded on it, but I corrupted all the long filenames when I was repartitioning it. when it was labeled as a DOS partition, I could get into it using linux.) cfdisk returned an error as it was trying to write; silly me, i didn't write down what it said, but i figured nothing was seriously wrong. I rebooted. when I rebooted, I got an error: Kernel Panic: [something to the effect of, this drive's f*ed up] 03:01 MORAL NEVER play with the partitions on a system without making a backup! /MORAL MORAL2 Always mount a scratch monkey /MORAL2 (yes I read the jargon file too much) Have you tried looking at it in normal fdisk? How AFU is the partition table? I looked around and found a rootboot disk on the net (tomsrtbt), dutifully created it using another computer, and booted from a floppy. (My Debian rootboot disk wasn't working, still isn't, dunno why. sigh) Using a boot floppy, I can mount and read /dev/hda3 just fine, but I can't seem to run any of the binaries on it. (for example, cfdisk). I can't get into /dev/hda1 at all. tomsrtbt is a GREAT disk but...alas it is libc5 and thusly can't run glibc binaries (libc6). try cd'ing to the directory where /dev/hda3 is mounted and chroot . bash this SHOULD give you a shell that can run those binaries. (and its bash too ;)) So: is there a way to fix the hard drive, and /dev/hda1, without losing significant amounts of data? If so, what is it? have you tried fsck? I would recommend trying fdisk and seeing what it says...also writting down every error message ;) (btw tomsrtbt should have fdisk) As for the Win95 system... you will probablky need to re-install -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
Re: BROWSER
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, count zero wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: Im searching for graphicals internet browsers... What can you people recomend me?? (currently im using netscape) why u want to change? netscape it's not so ugly ! Hi, You might try kfm, the filemanager of the kde package. However, it's not totally free (like netscape up to now) and has some problems displaying forms. You might try lynx and configure it with zgv as graphical viewer (runs in the console, but is quick as hell). Both have no java, so keep netscape installed. Other browsers I only know the name: amaya, mozilla (from netscape), qtscape (mozilla port on qt-libraries). Gruss -- Lukas Eppler (godot)
Re: Format of .deb files
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:06:25PM +0100, Moore, Paul wrote: I am trying to get to grips with Debian, and I'd like to browse through the documentation. The problem I have is that my Debian PC is at one home, whereas the PC where I have the most chance to read documentation, print things out, follow up references, etc, is at work. My current work PC is Windows only [:-(] but it does have a CD drive and I have the Debian CDs. I guess your home PC can't be acessed from work (ie having it online) too bad...I need to set mine up (one of these days) to let me tell it to conenct remotely. My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages on a Windows box? Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities). thay are... ar is the top level used... user ar to extract that and there will be a couple of control files and a .tar.gz Winzip should be able to take it from there. If not, is there any other way I can browse the documentation (/usr/doc, /usr/man, /usr/info) for debian while not actually at a PC with debian running? Is it available on the web? hmm well... with dwww there is an entire web interface to documentation I don't know if anyone has dww publicly available for browseing -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
New Install... pon not working
Hi, I Have installed Linux 2.0 from floppy disk to a unit without any non- linux partitions and have tried both using pppconfig and manually editing the provider files as indicated in install.txt. FTP is the only method to my disposal of enhancing my installation. It would seem the best I can do is with the configuration files I had after running pppconfig. Using pon and plog I get an OK in response to ATZ, I get a CONNECT in response to the ATDT1231234. But then a string of some sort of PPP negotiation talk is sent and after a while I get a message it has been sent 9 times without a response and I disconnect. I have two remote access numbers with valid account ID to my disposal, both of which will accept a Windows95 connection. My modem is a 56KFlex AOPEN FM56-RS with the latest firmware revision. Any suggestions would be appreciated, Thanks, -- Robert Abbott-Eidt ADI Group Inc. 1133 Regent St., Suite 300 Fredericton N.B. E3B 3Z2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph. (506) 452-9000 Fax (506) 459-3954 --- To obtain the direct dial in prefix to a known extension send any message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: exim: never stop Mail delivery failed
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, ing.Bubulac Angela Tatiana wrote: : Ok. It work but now I receive in that user a lot of messages like that: : Cron[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/sbin/exim -q false with the next contnBet : 1998-10-16 12:09:01 queue run: process 23976 crashed with signal 11 while : delivering 0zUD7c-0004xc-00 : 1998-10-16 12:09:02 queue run: process 23981 crashed with signal 11 while : delivering 0zUDM9-00055V-00 : 1998-10-16 12:09:03 queue run: process 23986 crashed with signal 11 while : delivering 0zUDaf-0005Cy-00 : 1998-10-16 12:09:03 queue run: process 23991 crashed with signal 11 while : delivering 0zUE3h-0005TT-00 : 1998-10-16 12:09:04 queue run: process 23996 crashed with signal 11 while : delivering 0zUElF-0005qr-00 : : The paniclog and mainlog files increase rapidly. I installed exim when I : installed debian with dselect and I was root. : : this is a sample from mainlog file: : 6 12:23:10 0zTurN-98-00 = maric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_del : 6 12:23:10 0zTurN-98-00 Completed : 6 12:23:11 0zTucu-8t-00 = maric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_del : 6 12:23:11 0zTucu-8t-00 Completed : 6 12:23:11 0zTvKP-AT-00 = maric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_del : 6 12:23:11 0zTvKP-AT-00 Completed : ... : 1998-10-16 12:46:51 refused relay : (host reject) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED] H= : 1998-10-16 12:53:01 Start queue run: pid=24401 : 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zTnfQ-4E-00 ** root@: unrouteable mail domain : 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zUFwG-0006Lb-00 Error while handling error message: : at least one malformed recipient : 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zTnfQ-4E-00 Process failed (1) when writing error : message to root@ : 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zTtRH-us-00 Message is frozen : 1998-10-16 12:53:28 0zTq92-pr-00 Message is frozen : : rejectlog file: : 1998-10-16 12:14:57 refused relay (host reject) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : from [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=(maric) [193.231.157.5] : -- : 1998-10-16 12:46:51 refused relay (host reject) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : from [EMAIL PROTECTED]H=(maric) [193.231.157.5] : -- : : Any suggestion? Last time I saw this I had not set up an alias for the root account. Exim seems to dislike selivering mail to the root account. Edit /etc/aliases and make sure that ONE alias exists for the user root, and that it refers to a real mail account somewhere. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Is Supra 336i a Winmodem?
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Andrew Ivanov wrote: : I have been trying to get my modem to work in debian, and unfortunately, : unsuccessfully. : I have 486DX4, it's got SupraExpress 336i Sp modem installed in it. My : primary boot right now is Win95, until I can get debian setup. Modem works : perfectly with Windows. : In debian what happens is: : Modem is on COM3, at least this is what Windows tells me. : setserial /dev/ttyS2 gives me output : : UART unknown, IRQ 4, Port 0x03e8 : : When I run wvdialconf, it tells me that modem was not detected, asks if : it's in use by any other programs, etc. : : Any idea why is this not working? How can I check if this is a Winmodem? : Any suggestions, please? Well, due to old habits I usually round up a DOS boot disk and try something like this: ECHO ATX0 COM3 ECHO ATDT123456789 COM3 If a modem actually exists at COM3 these two commands will make the modem go off-hook, ignore dialtone, and dial 123456789. You probably don't want a phone line connected for this test :) I suppose you could do the same test within linux: echo atx0 /dev/ttyS2 echo atdt123456789 /dev/ttyS2 However, since setserial didn't do much for you I'd guess you're screwed. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
