Una pruebita...

1998-10-20 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
Perdón por publicar basura, pero me llegó un correo de la lista diciéndome
que me habían sacado debido a muchos correos rebotados (me lleva el chanfle
con el servidor de la Universidad), y esto es una pruebita para ver que
tan cierto es.

Hasta otra...
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Re: linux actual 4 falla (fwd)

1998-10-20 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 01:53:47PM +, Jordi Roman Mejias dijo:
 En cuanto a que los CD's botan debe ser cierto ya que las nuevas
 lectoras llevan unas pestañitas para agarrar los CD's

A, hombre... las pestanitas es para colocar las unidades de forma
vertical (para que no se caigan los discos...). Por lo menos para
eso sirven en la mía.

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joe en Debian 2.0

1998-10-20 Thread Iñaki Martínez
Kaixo!!!

 En Debian 1.3.1 el joe funcionaba perfectamente, ahora en debian 2.0 la
tecla fin no funciona, sale el simbolo ~, y no se que puede pasar, uso la
misma configuración de teclado, incluso en una instalación nueva me pasa, es
error de joe, Debian 2.0 o de quien?

 A alguien le pasa lo mismo?

 NOTA: solo pasa con joe, en los demas programas funciona perfectamente.

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Re: Re:indent

1998-10-20 Thread Fernando
Si funciona, crea dos ficheros que contengan
esto: 
  
int main()
{;}
int jander()
{;}  
int klander()
{;}
   

ok.

$ indent -bap kk.c

kk.c

int
main ()
{;
}
int
jander ()
{;
}
int
klander ()
{;
}

¿No deberia haber una linea entre cada funcion?

indent -version
GNU indent 1.9.1


Saludos 
Fernando.
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Re: CAPTURAS EN PLENA INSTALACION???

1998-10-20 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 12:58:48PM +0200, TooManySecrets wrote:
 Enrique Zanardi el día Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 11:15:42AM +0100 expuso lo 
 siguiente:
  EL problema es que dinstall no tiene opción test en todos los módulos,
  así que hay algunos que no se pueden ejecutar así. Tengo un parche para
  añadir las opciones test que faltan. Intentaré tenerlo listo para la
  2.1.
 
 ¿Cómo puedo ejecutar el programa este (dónde está)? Aunque no pueda ejectuar
 todos los módulos, con algunos ya me bastaría.

Las fuentes están en el paquete boot-floppies. En el directorio
utilities/dinstall . Muchos de los ficheros *.c tienen una rutina main
que se compila condicionalmente, según el valor de la variable TESTING.
Viene indicado en los propios ficheros cuál es la orden que debes usar
para compilarlos en modo test. El método es bastante chapucero, pero en
la próxima versión estará mucho mejor.

 Por cierto que hace un tiempo, no sé qué leches escribí (tratando de
 manejarme con los módulos), que me salió la pantalla de configuración de los
 módulos de la instalación, pero ahora no me acuerdo de qué comando utilicé.
 He probado algunas opciones, pero no me sale ni a tiros, ahora que lo
 necesito... :-(

Ese es fácil (es el único, de momento, que existe como un paquete
aparte). Se llama modconf.

Saludos,
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Re: DEBIAN 2.1 QUE PASO ??????

1998-10-20 Thread TooManySecrets
Enrique Zanardi el día Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 11:29:39AM +0100 expuso lo 
siguiente:
 On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 12:09:43AM -0400, Lord of Hell wrote:
  Este es mi primer e-mail en una lista de debian
  Tengo varias dudas con el 2.1 Supuestamente el debian 2.1 lo iban a
  lanzar para el viernes que paso 15 o 16 de octubre
 
 Pues no, lo que se iba a hacer (y se hizo) era congelar la 2.1. Es
 decir, a partir del viernes pasado no se pueden añadir nuevos paquetes a
 la 2.1 (irán a la futura 2.2, tal vez 3.0) y entramos en la fase dura
 de prueba y corrección de errores, que debe durar en torno a mes y medio.
 Así que si todo va bien, la Debian 2.1 saldrá a primeros de Diciembre. 

Este fin de semana pasé por la web de Debian y decían que para Noviembre... ¿?

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Tarjeta de 100MB

1998-10-20 Thread jrivas
Alguien conoce alguna tarjeta de 100MB que tenga drivers para linux
(no importa precio).

Un saludo,

Esper


Re: DEBIAN 2.1 QUE PASO ??????

1998-10-20 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 10:56:34PM +0200, TooManySecrets wrote:
 Enrique Zanardi el día Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 11:29:39AM +0100 expuso lo 
 siguiente:
  On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 12:09:43AM -0400, Lord of Hell wrote:
   Este es mi primer e-mail en una lista de debian
   Tengo varias dudas con el 2.1 Supuestamente el debian 2.1 lo iban a
   lanzar para el viernes que paso 15 o 16 de octubre
  
  Pues no, lo que se iba a hacer (y se hizo) era congelar la 2.1. Es
  decir, a partir del viernes pasado no se pueden añadir nuevos paquetes a
  la 2.1 (irán a la futura 2.2, tal vez 3.0) y entramos en la fase dura
  de prueba y corrección de errores, que debe durar en torno a mes y medio.
  Así que si todo va bien, la Debian 2.1 saldrá a primeros de Diciembre. 
 
 Este fin de semana pasé por la web de Debian y decían que para Noviembre... ¿?

Sí, finales de Noviembre (late November) o primeros de Diciembre 
(+/- 1 semanita).

Saludos,
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Re: joe en Debian 2.0

1998-10-20 Thread Jose Rodriguez

Hola!

Iaki Martnez wrote:
En Debian 1.3.1 el joe funcionaba perfectamente,
ahora en debian 2.0 la
tecla fin no funciona, sale el simbolo ~, y no se que puede pasar,
uso la
misma configuracin de teclado, incluso en una instalacin
nueva me pasa, es
error de joe, Debian 2.0 o de quien?

A alguien le pasa lo mismo?
A mi el Joe me funciona perfectamente en Debian 2.0 y no me pasa eso que
dices, asi que sera algo que tienes mal configurado...

Saludos,

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Re: CAPTURAS EN PLENA INSTALACION???

1998-10-20 Thread Correcaminos
TooManySecrets wrote:

[...]

 ¿Cómo puedo ejecutar el programa este (dónde está)? Aunque no pueda ejectuar
 todos los módulos, con algunos ya me bastaría.
 Por cierto que hace un tiempo, no sé qué leches escribí (tratando de
 manejarme con los módulos), que me salió la pantalla de configuración de los
 módulos de la instalación, pero ahora no me acuerdo de qué comando utilicé.
 He probado algunas opciones, pero no me sale ni a tiros, ahora que lo
 necesito... :-(
 ¿Alguna ayudita, por favor?

 Gracias por todo.

modconf

Como añadido, prueba esto:

locate conf|grep bin|less

Tiene un pelin de basura, pero obtendras un listado de muchos de los 
scripts que permiten
volver  a configurar muchos paquetes...
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Re: Tarjeta de 100MB

1998-10-20 Thread Salvador Bosch
El 20 Oct 98, a las 11:49, jrivas escribió:

 Alguien conoce alguna tarjeta de 100MB que tenga drivers para linux
 (no importa precio).

 Un saludo,

 Esper


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Yo tengo instalada una tarjeta de red PCI de 10/100 Mb/s, 3Com
Fast Etherlink XL modelo 3C905B-TX y me funciona perfectamente
con Debian 2.0. El modulo adecuado (que puedes instalar con
modconf) es el 3C59x - 3Com Vortex 3C59x. Su precio es de unas
12.000 pts. + IVA.
La tarjeta HP J2585A 10/100VG también tiene drivers para Linux
aunque creo que es mas cara.


Un saludo,

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Re: Tarjeta de 100MB

1998-10-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Oct 20, 1998 at 11:49:50AM +0100, jrivas wrote:
 Alguien conoce alguna tarjeta de 100MB que tenga drivers para linux
 (no importa precio).

Intel Etherexpress *
Tarjetas basadas en Tulip (es un poco caprichoso el soporte)


Marcelo


Re: joe en Debian 2.0

1998-10-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Iñaki Martínez wrote:

  En Debian 1.3.1 el joe funcionaba perfectamente, ahora en debian 2.0 la
 tecla fin no funciona, sale el simbolo ~, y no se que puede pasar,

Asegúrate de que tu fichero /etc/inputrc es el que viene con
libreadlineg2 de forma predeterminada y prueba a *no* usar ningún
fichero ~/.inputrc en tu directorio inicial.

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Re: Mi disco duro esta frito ...y sin tomate

1998-10-20 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
Antonio Castro wrote:
 
 Podría ser que el corte de luz acompañado de algún pico de tensión
 o microcortes provocara daños en algunos sectores del disco.
 Intenta chequear el estado físico del dísco.
Efectivamente. He probado con:
cat /dev/hda | wc --bytes
Y me da el mensaje:
cat: /dev/hda: IO Error
Como cat /dev/hda solo lee los sectores del disco sin
utilizar para nada su estructura creo poder suponer que
efectivamente hay un error fisico en el disco. 
Por tanto, ahora me toca preguntarme lo siguiente: Hay
alguna herramienta en linux que permita comprobar estos
errores y eliminarlos?

Gracias,

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Tecla ALT en Linux

1998-10-20 Thread MJerez.EET
Hola a todos, aunque todavia no he conseguido solucionar mis 
problemas con las X en Debian 2.0, tengo otra cuestion para la lista.
Estoy desarrollando una aplicacion en Java bajo Linux, y resulta que 
la dichosa aplicacion no me acepta la tecla ALT bajo ningun concepto. 
He revisado el codigo fuente de la aplicacion pero todo esta 
correcto, y encima me han dicho que el problema no es de la 
aplicacion sino de Linux, y que habria que modificar ciertos archivos 
de configuracion para que funcionara la dichosa teclita.

Sin mas y esperando noticias vuestras me despido.



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instalar desde CD Mitsumi

1998-10-20 Thread Gabriel B.
Hola a todos.

Soy nuevo en la lista y en Linux.
Me gustaría saber si alguien sabe cómo instalar debian desde un lector
CD-ROM Mitsumi 2x (no es muy veloz...). He mirado en la documentación y no
he encontrado nada.

Gracias a todos

Un Saludo.
Gabriel B.

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Re: CAPTURAS EN PLENA INSTALACION???

1998-10-20 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 12:58:48PM +0200, TooManySecrets wrote:
  
  Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] (otro miembro del equipo Debian)
  está escribiendo un artículo similar para una revista alemana, y ha
  estado preparando algunas imágenes. Tal vez pueda enviarte copias.
 
 
 Ya me pasastes su dirección, ya hace ya casi dos semanas que le escribí,
 pero o no mira mucho su correo, o mi inglés es pésimo, o está
 super-atareado, por que ni si quiera me ha dicho aquí estoy yo.

Posiblemente esta muy atareado, lleva gran parte del peso de slink
sobre sus espaldas :(

 
  EL problema es que dinstall no tiene opción test en todos los módulos,
  así que hay algunos que no se pueden ejecutar así. Tengo un parche para
  añadir las opciones test que faltan. Intentaré tenerlo listo para la
  2.1.
 
 ¿Cómo puedo ejecutar el programa este (dónde está)? Aunque no pueda ejectuar
 todos los módulos, con algunos ya me bastaría.
 Por cierto que hace un tiempo, no sé qué leches escribí (tratando de
 manejarme con los módulos), que me salió la pantalla de configuración de los
 módulos de la instalación, pero ahora no me acuerdo de qué comando utilicé.
 He probado algunas opciones, pero no me sale ni a tiros, ahora que lo
 necesito... :-(
 ¿Alguna ayudita, por favor?

Ese conjuro supongo que será modconf :)
 
 Gracias por todo.
 
 
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De nada..

Javi


Re: ¿Software para mis estudios?

1998-10-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Oct 20, 1998 at 09:37:48PM +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:

   El Spice es un programa se simulacion de circuitos escrito hace
 muuuchos años, por un profesor de una universidad estadounidense cuando no
 existia nada ni parecido entonces. (creo que hay un articulo en la
 Spectrum de OCtubre sobre el).

Me suena conocido... creo haber leído algo hace varios años en una Dr Dobbs'.
Voy a pedir prestada una Spectrum para ver que es el cuento...

   El original es libre (en el sentido original) ya que su autor ha
 sido un defensor del codigo libre (no lo patento y lo podía haber hecho y
 ganar una pasta... menos mal para nosotros)

El único problema es que es demasiado libre[*], y por lo visto Berkeley
tiene el copyright, y es tal que solo se puede distribuir para usos no
comerciales... non-free.

   No se donde se pueden encontrar las fuentes del spice original

Busqué en SAL y me encontré que hay un rpm, y que se distribuye en forma
binaria también. También existe una cosa que se llama SpiceCAD, para X11. Vi
los readme's y no se ve muy prometedor...

 según veo no está para Debian, seguramente se puedan coger y compilar
 fácilmente (aunque posiblemente se trate de código C antiguo). Algún
 voluntario? (lo siento yo ya tengo 11 paquetes que mantener y otros 8 en
 proyecto...)

Alguien ya hizo el trabajo de pasarlo a Linux (probablemente no es muy
limpio, aunque el autor dice que trató de dejarlo tan portátil como pudo --
de hecho no sé si estoy leyendo el copyright original o uno modificado). Voy
a copiarlo nada más por curiosidad, si sale algo voy a enviar una nota a
debian-devel pidiendo que alguien lo tome a su cargo... no me resulta
simpático cuidar de paquetes en non-free.


Marcelo

[*] Algún rollo referente a que las cosas sin licencia producidas en una
universidad entran en forma automática bajo cierto tipo de condiciones.


Re: DEBIAN 2.1 QUE PASO ??????

1998-10-20 Thread TooManySecrets
Enrique Zanardi el día Tue, Oct 20, 1998 at 10:55:59AM +0100 expuso lo 
siguiente:
  Este fin de semana pasé por la web de Debian y decían que para Noviembre... 
  ¿?
 
 Sí, finales de Noviembre (late November) o primeros de Diciembre 
 (+/- 1 semanita).

Desde luego va a ser un super-magnífico regalo de Navidad 8-D

A todo esto... ¿alguien me puede proporcionar alguna dirección
(preferentemente de algún mirror aquí en Spain) para ir dando un vistazo a
slink?

Gracias por todo.

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Re: Calidad de los CD's de Debian

1998-10-20 Thread ZeroByte
Enrique Zanardi comentaba lo siguiente:

  Creative 2X del 486 esto ha sido mano de santo,y en mi Creative 4x no he
  tenido que hacer ni siquiera eso,todo perfecto a la primera.
 
 ¿Tiene algún efecto negativo en los CDs en los que funciona bien con
 el tamaño habitual?

Pues no sabría decirte porque solo uso esa opción cuando tengo problemas
para leer CD,de todos modos ahora pruebo con uno a ver si ocurre algo
anormal,no es una respuesta muy científica pero no me puedo poner a probar
1000 CD a ver si alguno tiene algún problema. ;-DDD

Por lo que veo no hay nada anormal,lo leo exactamente igual.

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Re: Netscape install

1998-10-20 Thread Peter Granroth
On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 11:48:28PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote:
 Dear all,
 
   I have grabbed the libc6 verion of netscape, and installed the
 following packages:
 
 netscape-base-4 5
 netscape-base-4 4.07-1
 
 I have no netscape binary - only netscape-remote, which fails with not
 running on display :0.0, when clearly it is (or so env says)
 
 Which package do I need to just be able to run netscape???
 

I think you need navigator-smotif-407, netscape-java-407,
navigator-nethelp-407 and communicator-spellchk-407 for a complete
install, although I think that you only need to install the first
of the packages I mentioned above (or communicator-smotif-407 if
you want the complete comunicator suite, not just the navigator)
to get a basic install, but I'm not 100% sure, I use 4.5 now.

HTH
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Re: just shoot me

1998-10-20 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:15:45 -0700 (PDT), George Bonser wrote:

I just wonder  when a freeze is announced, a lot of people load up
their systems from unstable to give it a good workout. You might consider
this a wide but not ubiquitous beta. At this point, now that you have
several more times more systems in sync with the unstable tree, would it
make sense for someone ( other than the package maintainer ) to install
the package and check it out before addig it to the archive? I mean, not
an extensive feature bugcheck, just a basic integrity check to make sure
that it does not crash a system when installed.

I think this was hashed over on -devel a few months back when there was
another blow-up problem in a freeze.  A lot of things were tossed back and
forth and I don't quite remember what came out of it.  

If status can be changed to frozen and packages can be added that will
blow your system up, how are we going to get people to test after a freeze
announcement when it reality there is no comfort level that you will not
be loading something that is going to trash your system.

But that can happen, even in stable.  All it takes is a bug fix in
something that is security related which can get into the stable side of life
and it can break other packages.  Take a look at ncurses and sc, for example.
 Almost each time ncurses gets updated, sc breaks.

Youse takes your chances.

The problem on one of my remote servers was resolved easilly enough. I had
to make an appointment, be escorted back into the computer room, then
spend a half-hour repairing the system and taking care of a couple of
other odds/ends.

Personally, on production machines that you don't have access to easily
enough (for me that is walking into the next room) I'd not even think of
upgrading from a stable to a frozen.  I'd just ride the stables out.

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HELP: Root login broken

1998-10-20 Thread timothy
Hi everyone, all of a sudden my root login seems  to have broken.
When I su to root, it just stops and doesn't do anything. When I switch
to another VC and try to login as root, it gets as far as telling me I have no
mail, then it just stops.I have to press Ctrl+C to get out in both cases.
Luckily when it started doing this I was logged in as root in one VC,
so I can still do stuff, but I have to figure out what is going on quickly and
fix it before I have a powerfailure or something, because when the machine 
comes back up, most likely I still wont beable to login root and no doubt I will
have to be root to fix whatever is wrong, so i'll be doomed.

Any ideas on where I should start trying to fix this?
Thanks,
Timothy
PS: IF I su to root from the existin root login, it still dies trying to do it.
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Re: HELP: Root login broken

1998-10-20 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone, all of a sudden my root login seems  to have broken.
 When I su to root, it just stops and doesn't do anything. When I 
 switch
 to another VC and try to login as root, it gets as far as telling me I have no
 mail, then it just stops.I have to press Ctrl+C to get out in both cases.
 Luckily when it started doing this I was logged in as root in one VC,
 so I can still do stuff, but I have to figure out what is going on quickly and
 fix it before I have a powerfailure or something, because when the machine 
 comes back up, most likely I still wont beable to login root and no doubt I 
 will
 have to be root to fix whatever is wrong, so i'll be doomed.
 
 Any ideas on where I should start trying to fix this?

This is a known problem with sysklogd 1.3-29 in slink (many of us were
unpleasantly surprised by this).

To resolve this, either reboot your system and type 'linux single' at the
LILO prompt or boot with a rescue disk, mounting your root directory.

Do 'chmod -x /etc/init.d/sysklogd'.  This will disable syslog and permit
you to log in as root or use su to become root.

Next either downgrade to the sysklogd in hamm or upgrade to sysklogd
1.3-30 in slink and restore the x permissions (chmod +x) to
/etc/init.d/sysklogd. 

Bob


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Re: FVWM - Not all modules included?

1998-10-20 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 MP == Moore, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

MP Have I missed something, or is FvwmConsole not included in the debian
MP package?

I don't know this module. What does it do? How does it look like?
Perhaps it is not a official part of fvwm2 and Suse just included it.

Maybe you are just looking for the FvwmTalk module?

Ciao,
Martin


Re: HELP: Root login broken

1998-10-20 Thread M.C. Vernon

 Any ideas on where I should start trying to fix this?

This is a problem with sysklogd-29 which has been covered on this and
-devel recently. The fix is:

boot in single user
chmod -x sysklogd

reboot.

Install the newer version (-30)

Matthew

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Network Puzzle

1998-10-20 Thread Michael Montz
I have a Linux server setup with a hybrid cable modem (down cable/up
phone line)using ip masqurading.  Works great.

The puzzle is that whenever I telnet to the server from my computer, the
modem connects to the ISP. If the modem doesn't connect right away, the
telnet session will delay starting. 

This is the routing table of the server.

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
207.50.40.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U  1500 0  0 eth0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U  1500 0  0 eth1
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U  3584 0  0 lo
0.0.0.0 207.50.40.183   0.0.0.0 UG 1500 0  0 eth0

Any clues?
 
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simple GTK programs don't compile

1998-10-20 Thread M.C. Vernon
DEar all,

I donwloaded a really simple GTK program, and tryed to build it:

ld: cannot open -lXi: No such file or directory

What is going wrong, please?

Matthew

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Re: just shoot me

1998-10-20 Thread Nikolai Andreyevich Luzan
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, George Bonser wrote:

 On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Nikolai Andreyevich Luzan wrote:
 
 I just wonder  when a freeze is announced, a lot of people load up
 their systems from unstable to give it a good workout. You might consider
 this a wide but not ubiquitous beta. At this point, now that you have
 several more times more systems in sync with the unstable tree, would it
 make sense for someone ( other than the package maintainer ) to install
 the package and check it out before addig it to the archive? I mean, not
 an extensive feature bugcheck, just a basic integrity check to make sure
 that it does not crash a system when installed.

A freeze is the responsibilty of the committee that oversees the
entire distribution, not that of individual package maintainers. The
fact that a freeze is announce does not mean inherant stability, all
it means is that no new things will be added for that release of the 
distribution, the release could be buggy as all hell. The announce of 
freeze is analogous to the close acceptance of papers for a conference.

 I think everyone would agree that before a freeze is released, you should
 expect anything to happen if you are in the unstable tree. There is an
 implied level of security when it changes to frozen that all the basic
 system crashing bugs have been worked out  that is why its status was
 changed.
A freeze is not released, it is simply another step towards the release 
of a distribution, by the very nature of the unstable tree you should
expect nothing to be perfect in there. And s I have already said
freeze does not imply stability, it simplie states that the only
submissions that will be accepted for inclusion into the tree are
those that fix pre-existing bugs, it also by no means implies that
_any_ bugs have been fixed. The statuse merely changes to frozen to
tell people that release is approaching and that all the bugs are
being fixed.


Nikolai



Upgrade to Slink and custom kernel

1998-10-20 Thread Mark Panzer
Just wondering,

I compiled a custom kernel (2.0.34) with kpkg a while back for my HAMM
box.  If (When) I upgrade to SLINK will APT wipe-out my custom kernel? I
thought kpkg added a kernel-1 (or something similar) to the kernel
version so DPKG/APT wouldn't upgrade it, I just wanted to know if I was
right.

Mark Panzer


Nescape 4.5 for SWim Motif 2.1?

1998-10-20 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi,

Is there a package of Netscape 4.5 compiled for SWiM Motif 2.1 ?

Thanks,
Sasha.


gzip tar

1998-10-20 Thread Bob Barth




I have done TWO downloads using ncftp of 
StarOffice 4.0 from: ftp://ftp.stardivision.com/pub/so4/linux/sp3/01/

I have tried decompressing installing it using:

 gzip -dc 
the_file_name.tar.gz | tar -xvf -

When I do, after a few files I get a CRC and drive seek 
etc. error.

What should I do?

What should I try?

From what other site should I download 
it?


TIA,

Bob Barth[EMAIL PROTECTED]...Unix, 
MS-DOS, and MS WindowsThe Good, the Bad, and the Ugly






Re: Nescape 4.5 for SWim Motif 2.1?

1998-10-20 Thread aqy6633
 Is there a package of Netscape 4.5 compiled for SWiM Motif 2.1 ?

Most probably not. Netscape always used  Motif 1.2 for linking.
May be glibc2 version uses Morif 2.1 - but unlikely.

Alex Y.

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newbie d00d

1998-10-20 Thread Derek McCabe
What FTP, directory, and files are needed to get xwindows? I have Debian,
and I'm a new user. The computer is a 486 20MBram and no modem. Attachments
are welcome!


Re: Hi/True Color mode for X ! please help

1998-10-20 Thread Sergey V Kovalyov

On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Linh Dang wrote:

 I have just installed ham from SLS. Everything is fine except X
 in Hi (16bits) or True (24bits) color.
 
 I have a Sony CPD 200sf and a PCI ATI 3D Rage II+ with 8Mb on board.
 I have an excellent [EMAIL PROTECTED] in 8bits depth but when I switch to
 a 16/24/32 bits mode, I get an 1-inch-wide column of noise at 1/4 of 
 the screen on the left side. All the other area of the screen is OK 
 except for that column.
 
 - I configured X with XF86Setup and tuned it with xvidtune.

Try launch xvidtune from an xterm and see whether small changes can solve
the problem. Usually it helps in such an intermittent case. You can also
try to look at /etc/X11/XF86Config to see if there is anything suspisious. 

 - Windog95 has no problem in [EMAIL PROTECTED] in 16bits. 
Try to dig through Win95 files. Some video drivers actually have a
configuration file with timings (I have such a file for my 
Matrox Millenium II, so I've made timings in Linux exactly the same as in
Win95).

Another suggestion: rename your XF86Config and run xf86config program. It
usually produces somewhat different configuration. Use the best video
timings of these two methods.

Sergey.


smail problems

1998-10-20 Thread Patrick Olson

A problem has shown up all of a sudden on my Debian 2.0 system.
Everything worked fine until yesterday.

Now when I try to send mail, about half the time it spits out

ROUTER:smart_host TRANSPORT:smtp ERROR:(ERR164) transport smtp: BIND
server failure: : Connection timed out

into /var/log/smail/logfile almost immediately after I hit send and the
message is deferred and sits in my outgoing mailq for a long time.

I had not changed any settings, so I am at a loss as to what broke.   I
just tried messing with bindconfig and smailconfig some and nothing
changed.

Any ideas?


Problems after upgrade! Please help.

1998-10-20 Thread Luiz O. L. Zorzella
I'm in deep trouble. Yesterday I upgraded some packages from hamm to
slink, and since
then I've been unable to use my ppp link. I'm writing from a
non-mantained win 95 I
have in hand, because I can't do it under linux.

pon stalls without dialing or returning the prompt, and at
/var/log/messages there are
a couple of strange -- MARK -- messages that I don't really know are
related.

One of the packages I upgraded is netstd. Even yesterday I noted that I
could not do
a telnet anymore, but I said: never mind for a while and let it go.
It's 3.07-5.

Another suspicious move was downgrading perl to the latest version at
slink, as I was told
to do by some developers while I was having problems with a include. I
removed perl-suid
also while doing all that. Later I installed the perl-suid again.

Also, login as root, or suing to root doesn't work also (it stalls and
does not give
an error message or the prompt).

If you can help me, please email me, as I'm desperate.

Please, forward me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], as I'm not really being able
to read the list.

Thanks a lot.



Re: New motherboard (and processor)

1998-10-20 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael Beattie dixit:
 
  On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Your manufacturers website: http://www.ability.com/ (I think thats right)
  They should have some specs on your MB, But as a stab in the dark, I would
  say that yes, you do have an ATX board.
  
  Recompiling the kernel is easy, install the kernel-package and
  kernel-source-2.0.34 packages, and read the docs for kernel-package.
 
 In that case, wouldn't it be worth to recompile the latest stable kernel
 (2.0.35?)?

Yeah.. it would, I installed linux on a friends ATX pc yesterday, and I
found that it is 2.0.35 that has ATX support. (Is that right folks? - I
only looked quickly)

I said 2.0.34 because that is the latest version available in hamm.

 
   That's good news... will they keep coming?
  
  Im sorry.. I dont understand?
 
 I was just hoping you would give me the same good news about the m'board, so
 good news would keep coming.

Aha... Well.. Bad news is in the eye of the beholder,

 Thanks yet again.

Not a problem

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Re: Admin tool needed

1998-10-20 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Clovis Sena/Servicos Recife wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 is there some admin tool for X ??


package: xadmin


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Re: netscape

1998-10-20 Thread Remo Badii
dselect asks for libc5 versions of those files: what you have is libc6
version. You need to search for theold ones in the list dselect offers
you and install them as well.
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Re: bitmap to outline postscript

1998-10-20 Thread Jens Ritter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Harding) writes:

 Basically: given, e.g., the bit pattern
 
000
   0   0
  00   00
  00   00
   0   0
000
 
 is there a program which would take this pattern and produce an
 economical PostScript code which would operate by drawing two ellipses as
 smooth curves and filling the space between them?

Corel Draw comes with a utility capable of converting bitmaps to
vector format --- but it does not always produce smooth curves.

And it is not available for linux.

Jens

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Re: dselect taking a _looong_ time

1998-10-20 Thread Jens Ritter
Erik Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I use dselect, with the debian distribution mounted from a local
 nfs mirror, it really takes quite a horrible time telling me it's
 skipping deselected packages. I'm not so interested ! :)
 
 I think I've read somewhere there is a way to get dselect to just
 install the packages I've asked for, and quit. Without taking half a
 year listing all availiable packages.
 
 Am I wrong ? Where do I RTFM ?

Set up the NFS in /etc/fstab and use the mountable method.

Or install apt from slink.

Jens
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Re: Kernels from the 2.1 series

1998-10-20 Thread Helge Hafting
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/19/98 
   at 07:14 PM, Paul Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I'm thinking of moving over to the 2.1 series kernels, since it seems
that they're pretty stable these days.  Will this make life very much
harder for me?
I don't think so.  I am using 2.1.125 with no particular problems.

In particular:

* I believe I'll need this new kmod thing rather than the kerneld
that I'm used to.  Do I already have this installed?  Do I need a special
package?
No package needed, kmod is compiled into the kernel.  You may want to set
up a cron job that run rmmod -a now and then so unused modules get
unloaded.  kmod will load them when needed, but not unload.

The script that start kerneld will stop doing that automatically, and say
something like this isn't needed, kernel has kmod  You can disable it if
you don't want the message, or keep it in case you want to go back later.

* I've heard talk of a change to the behaviour of chown that breaks
dpkg.  Do I need a special dpkg?  A special kernel patch?
dpkg seems to work fine with kernel 2.1.125, wether I run it from 
dselect/apt or from a command prompt.

* Will ps, mount, etc keep going without change?
They will work if they are recent enough.  Take a look at 
http://www.linuxhq.com/pgmup21.html for recommended versions.  Hamm is up
to date on (almost) everything.

* Anything I don't know about?
A 2.1 kernel should work fine, but keep your old kernel around a while
just to be safe.  Set up your /etc/lilo.conf so you may choose kernel at
boot time.
2.1.125 is supposed to be one of the more stable development kernels,
but it is also the most recent one at the moment.

Helge Hafting


Re: [Debian] support for Adaptec 2940UW2 ?

1998-10-20 Thread Greg Norris
Ok, I'm downloading the boot-floppies package at this very moment, and
will shortly check into what's required to create an installation
diskette.  I may not have the chance to actually create it until after
work tomorrow, so it could be about a day from now before you recieve it.

I'll email you the image-file as soon as I have it available... you'll
need access to a system where you can write it to a diskette (using
rawrite2 on dos/windows, dd on linux/unix, etc.).

On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 07:57:48PM +0100, Boris Pavacic wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
  I think that the new version of the aic7xxx driver (5.1.2, if I remember
  right) supports the 2940U2W.  You can pull down a copy from
  ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/aic/.  This may not help you if you don't have
  another Debian system available, from which to create a custom install
  disk... I can probably generate one for you if you aren't able to do it
  yourself (it might take a day or two however).
 
 Can you help me ? I have on-board adaptec 7890 and debian 2.0 cannot detect
 my drive. I have linux kernel 2.0.34


URGENT-problem with named

1998-10-20 Thread ing.Bubulac Angela Tatiana



hello,
On 13 Oct I ask the maintainer of ro domain to change the name and IP
address of my DNS.
old:
 ;  DiG 8.1  @ns.ici.ro ns citon.ro 
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
 ;; got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2
 ;; QUERY SECTION:
 ;;  citon.ro, type = NS, class = IN
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 citon.ro.   4D IN NSpub.pub.ro.
 citon.ro.   4D IN NSB659.citon.ro.
 
 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 pub.pub.ro. 1D IN A 141.85.128.1
 B659.citon.ro.  4D IN A 193.226.61.100
 
 ;; Total query time: 20 msec
 ;; FROM: romsys-sun to SERVER: ns.ici.ro  192.162.16.21
 ;; WHEN: Fri Oct  9 13:57:07 1998
 ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 26  rcvd: 101
new:
;  DiG 2.1  @ns.ici.ro ns citon.ro. 
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 2, Auth: 0, Addit: 2
;; QUESTIONS:
;;  citon.ro, type = NS, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
citon.ro.   345600  NS  router.citon.ro.
citon.ro.   345600  NS  pub.pub.ro.

;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
router.citon.ro.345600  A   193.231.157.1
pub.pub.ro. 86400   A   141.85.128.1

;; Total query time: 27 msec
;; FROM: alpha to SERVER: ns.ici.ro  192.162.16.21
;; WHEN: Tue Oct 20 10:23:35 1998
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 26  rcvd: 103

I modify the root.hints cache file:
/var/named/zone/root.hints

;  DiG 2.2  @ns.internic.net . ns 
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
;; flags: qr aa rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 13, Auth: 0, Addit: 13
;; QUESTIONS:
;;  ., type = NS, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
.   NS  pub.pub.ro.
pub.pub.ro. A   141.85.128.1

;; Total query time: 6070 msec
;; FROM: waiting to SERVER: ns.internic.net  198.41.0.4
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 17 16:55:43 1997
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 17  rcvd: 436



The problem is that when I restart the named (ndc restart; ndc reload) I
get the next message:
Oct 20 09:23:51 router named[2770]: named shutting down
Oct 20 09:23:51 router named[2770]: USAGE 908900631 908900312
CPU=0.28u/0.07s CHILDCPU=0u/0s
Oct 20 09:23:51 router named[2770]: NSTATS 908900631 908900312 A=10 PTR=5
MX=1
Oct 20 09:23:51 router named[2770]: XSTATS 908900631 908900312 RR=18
RNXD=1 RFwdR=8 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=0 RAXFR=0 RLame=4 ROpts$
Oct 20 09:23:56 router named[2809]: starting.  named 8.1.2-T3B Sun Jun  7
23:43:52 MDT 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/bdale/debian/bind-8.1.2$
Oct 20 09:23:56 router named[2809]: cache zone  (IN) loaded (serial 0)
Oct 20 09:23:56 router named[2809]: master zone 127.in-addr.arpa (IN)
loaded (serial 1998100702)
Oct 20 09:23:56 router named[2809]: master zone citon.ro (IN) loaded
(serial 1998100707)
Oct 20 09:23:57 router named[2809]: master zone 193.231.157.in-addr.arpa
(IN) loaded (serial 1998100706)
Oct 20 09:23:57 router named[2809]: listening on [127.0.0.1].53 (lo)
Oct 20 09:23:57 router named[2809]: listening on [193.231.44.100].53
(eth0)
Oct 20 09:23:57 router named[2809]: listening on [193.231.157.1].53 (eth1)
Oct 20 09:23:57 router named[2809]: Forwarding source address is
[0.0.0.0].1947
Oct 20 09:23:57 router named[2810]: Ready to answer queries.
Oct 20 09:28:44 router named[2810]: sysquery: findns error (NXDOMAIN) on
B659.citon.ro?
Oct 20 09:28:46 router named[2810]: sysquery: findns error (NXDOMAIN) on
B659.citon.ro?
Oct 20 09:28:50 router named[2810]: Lame server on
'11.157.231.193.in-addr.arpa' (in '157.231.193.in-addr.arpa'?):
[141.85.128.1].53 'pub.pub.ro': learnt (A=141.85.128.1,NS=141.85.128.1)

Why it try to lookup to the B659.citon.ro?
Please tell me what to do I have to do because I have no idea.
TIA
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Re: Admin tool needed

1998-10-20 Thread Eric Jacoboni
Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  is there some admin tool for X ??
 
 
 package: xadmin

Bof

The xadmin package is rather incomplete... On my hamm (and there is no 
updated package), there is only 4 tools : User/Group editor, Domain 
editor, Network editor and Date/Time editor.

The Runlevel, File System and Printer editors are not available :(

Far from the latest Linuxconf version... which is not available in deb 
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Re: netscape

1998-10-20 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 Hi,
 One more problem about the netscape. I download the netscape from
 ftp.netscape.com and ran the ns-install to install it. But it just does
 not work. If I install it manually following the README.txt, the result is
 the same. But when I tried to install through dselect, it refered me to
 netscape. Could you let me know what I should do? Thanks.
 

Are there any error messages?  Is netscape in your path?  If you go to
the directory where netscape is installed, what does

ldd netscape

return?  It may be necessary to add some libc5 compatible libraries
from the oldlibs directory from hamm.

HTH,
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can't access cdrom, no isofs after install

1998-10-20 Thread Jack Nutting
Hi all,

I have a problem that's driving me a little nuts.  I've installed debian2.0  
(from cheap bytes), and I just can't get the cdrom to work properly.  Here  
are the details:

- When I try to mount, I get a message saying the kernal doesn't support 
iso9660.
- I've reinstalled the base system at least 4 times, and every time the  
cdrom has been inaccessible after reboot.
- When doing the base install, at the point where I can pick drivers and  
things, there is no iso9660fs or isofs listed with the other file systems.
- I've done a bit of searching DejaNews, but none of the suggestions I've  
found have helped.
- I know about how to do mounts and put things in /etc/fstab and all that.
- The cdrom works fine if I boot from the boot floppy that I created during  
the installation procedure, but not if I boot from the hard disk.
- I've looked int /etc/conf.modules, there is a line saying alias iso9660 
isofs.
- Doing a insmod isofs fails (can't find the module).
- Looking in /lib/modules/2.0.x/fs, I see no isofs.  I do see a number of  
modules named something like nls_iso8559_x.

Has anyone gone through something similar?

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(UK question) Help with diald and ISP demon.co

1998-10-20 Thread G. Kapetanios



Hi,
I was wondering whether anyone on the list has managed to use diald with 
the UK ISP demon. If so could you help help with the setup of the connect
script ?
Thanks very much
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Can I turn off portmap?

1998-10-20 Thread Anthony Campbell
I don't think I nee the portmap daemon (I'm the only user) but there doesn't
seem to be any way to turn it off in debian (there is in redhat).

Or am I missing something?

Anthony


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Re: Can I turn off portmap?

1998-10-20 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hello:

You can turn off the portmapper vi /etc/init.d/xinetd stop or
/etc/init.d/inetd stop. This however is not recommend because
any requests comming in on ports will not be serviced. Note.
portmaps are used to save system resources. It starts up
listening daemons on an as required basis as opposed to
having those daemon running and listening at all times.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 4:55 AM
Subject: Can I turn off portmap?


I don't think I nee the portmap daemon (I'm the only user) but there
doesn't
seem to be any way to turn it off in debian (there is in redhat).

Or am I missing something?

Anthony


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RE: Network Puzzle

1998-10-20 Thread David Karlin
Hi Michael,
You wrote:
 I have a Linux server setup with a hybrid cable modem (down cable/up
 phone line)using ip masqurading.  Works great.
 
 The puzzle is that whenever I telnet to the server from my computer, the
 modem connects to the ISP. If the modem doesn't connect right away, the
 telnet session will delay starting. 

What type of machine is running the telnet client?  My win95 machine
starts to dial my modem everytime I telnet to my linux system. I'd be
curious to know if you have that problem with a windows telnet client
or another linux system.

--David


RE: FVWM - Not all modules included?

1998-10-20 Thread Moore, Paul
From:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MP == Moore, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

MP Have I missed something, or is FvwmConsole not included in the debian
MP package?

I don't know this module. What does it do? How does it look like?
Perhaps it is not a official part of fvwm2 and Suse just included it.

Maybe you are just looking for the FvwmTalk module?

It provides a window into which you can type Fvwm configuration
commands. I use it for testing out the effect of commands (Style Xterm
Sticky) without needing to edit the config file and restart every time.

I saw something which gave me the impression it's in some sort of
extras directory in the fvwm source, but I only have the binary so I
can't check.

[Hmm, I just recalled that Debian 2.0 sources CD I had somewhere, check
on that - yes, it's in Fvwm2/extras/FvwmConsole/*. So I guess the real
question is, if I install the sources and compile this module myself,
where should I put it? I don't want to interfere with dpkg's handling of
the fvwm2 package, but I do want to keep my disk structure sensible...
Is there (or should there be) a fvwm2_extras package? I couldn't find
one...]

BTW, I just noticed that FvwmWharf is *also* in extras. I was also
planning on using that, for its Folders (expanding buttons). Looks
like I need to do some building of my own. Maybe I also need to consider
registering as a developer, to package these up. In at the deep end :-(

Paul.


Re: just shoot me

1998-10-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 04:40:02PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 Personally, on production machines that you don't have access to easily
 enough (for me that is walking into the next room) I'd not even think of
 upgrading from a stable to a frozen.  I'd just ride the stables out.

Each to their own; I upgraded my production box from bo to hamm
pre-autoup and even pre-HOWTO and all the way to final hamm without
visiting it once. I haven't been tracking slink, simply because I don't
need anything new in it yet. If the system were stuffed, it would
be a nuisance to go fix it, since it's located at my ISP in the CBD.
The risk is small enough for me.

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Network adapters (speed 100MB)

1998-10-20 Thread jrivas
Anybody knows some network adapter (speed 100MB) which supports linux
drivers?

Thank you

Esper


smail problems (dial-up)

1998-10-20 Thread Moore, Paul
Hi,
I'm just getting smail set up, and I'm not sure what I need to do for
the last stage (getting my dial-up setup working). I have local mail
setup fine, including redirecting postmaster mail to my normal
account. My ISP (Demon Internet in the UK) passes mail to me using SMTP
when I am logged on, so receiving mail seems to be no problem (I just do
pon and wait, Demon passes the mail to me fairly promptly). 

For outgoing mail, I have Demon's mailer set up as my smarthost. If I
send a message while offline, the smail log includes a line saying there
is an error, can't find post.demon.co.uk, deferring mail (OK, that's
right although as it is the expected situation, I'd rather it wasn't an
error...). However, when I start up the PPP connection with pon, nothing
seems to trigger smail to send deferred mail.

I found a command runq which seems to push stuff through. Is that what
it's for? If so, how do I get this to happen automatically when I start
the PPP link? Did I miss something in the configuration setup to get
this added automatically? All of the rest of the setup was put in as I
expected (I told the config that I was a dial-up Internet site, from
what I recall...)

As usual, if I do have to do manual tweaks, what do I need to do if I
later want to use dpkg/apt to upgrade or change things (for example, god
forbid, I need to switch to sendmail...)

Thanks for the help,
Paul.


Mail (pop3) IP Masquerasing..

1998-10-20 Thread Michael Beattie

I have had IP Masquerading running perfectly for the last 8-9 Months, but
My friend got to his inevitable reformat of his Windows 98 Hard Drive, and
he carefully asked me if I could install Linux for him... Fine by me, I
could then make use of his 56k modem via IP Masquerading. Everything is
installed and working well, but there is one problem. When I try to
download my mail from my pop account at our ISP (We have our own accounts
at the same ISP), fetchmail -v  gets to retrieving message 1, and then all
hell slows to a halt. It takes forever for the mail message to be
downloaded. Not that this is a major problem, It's just that it would be
handy if it actually worked properly.

Has anybody got any ideas on this? If you want more info, just ask... I
cant get the exact output now, I am using my modem for a change.. I can
next time the 56k is in use.


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Re: smail problems (dial-up)

1998-10-20 Thread Leon Breedt
On Tue, Oct 20 1998, Moore, Paul spake thus:

 I found a command runq which seems to push stuff through. Is that what
 it's for? If so, how do I get this to happen automatically when I start
 the PPP link?

any scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ get run when the ppp link is established.
so, in your case, i'd create in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ a script like so:

#!/bin/sh

if [-x /usr/sbin/runq]; then
/usr/sbin/runq
fi


cheers,

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Re: Eterm and X server

1998-10-20 Thread Leon Breedt
On Mon, Oct 19 1998, Brian Almeida spake thus:

 Are you running linux 2.1.x?
yes, 2.1.125

 If so there was a bug in it that is now fixed
 in the Eterm CVS...
i'll get the new version then, thanks

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Re: Can I turn off portmap?

1998-10-20 Thread Peter Granroth
On Tue, Oct 20, 1998 at 09:51:50AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I don't think I nee the portmap daemon (I'm the only user) but there doesn't
 seem to be any way to turn it off in debian (there is in redhat).
 
 Or am I missing something?
 

killall portmap

If you want to permanently turn it off, just comment the lines
in /etc/init.d/portmap that has to do with the portmap daemon.
This is at least what I did, and it seems to work fine.

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Re: Can I turn off portmap?

1998-10-20 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Peter Iannarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can turn off the portmapper vi /etc/init.d/xinetd stop or
/etc/init.d/inetd stop. This however is not recommend because
any requests comming in on ports will not be serviced. Note.
portmaps are used to save system resources. It starts up
listening daemons on an as required basis as opposed to
having those daemon running and listening at all times.

That's not true. You're turning off inetd here, not the portmapper.
Those 2 are seperate programs with seperate functionality. If you
turn off inetd, you won't be able to log in with telnet/rlogin anymore!

To turn of the portmapper, just comment it out in /etc/init.d/netbase

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Can someone send me patch for asus SCSI 7890 (aic7xxx) ?

1998-10-20 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,

I have a PC with the ASUS + SCSI 7890. There is a debian patch 
dir for this.
master.debian.org/~doko/aic7xxx developer's site seems very 
busy, so it is inmpossible to download the patch for aic7xxx.

Is there a mirror ? Could someone send me the kernel-image-
2.0.34_aic7xxx... ??

Regards,
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Re: Can I turn off portmap?

1998-10-20 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hello:

I am sure you are right. I'm running xinetd for the added security.
When I read my /etc/init.d/xinetd -- stop) It shuts down the
portmapper. start) starts up the portmapper. It is true that
it does not have to be run however, and correct me if I'm wrong
it controls the initiation of listening daemons ( ie, in.telnetd ),
as opposed to running in.telnetd as a deamon.

Peter


Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Peter Iannarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can turn off the portmapper vi /etc/init.d/xinetd stop or
 /etc/init.d/inetd stop. This however is not recommend because
 any requests comming in on ports will not be serviced. Note.
 portmaps are used to save system resources. It starts up
 listening daemons on an as required basis as opposed to
 having those daemon running and listening at all times.

 That's not true. You're turning off inetd here, not the portmapper.
 Those 2 are seperate programs with seperate functionality. If you
 turn off inetd, you won't be able to log in with telnet/rlogin anymore!

 To turn of the portmapper, just comment it out in /etc/init.d/netbase

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RE: Network Puzzle

1998-10-20 Thread Michael Montz
This is Linux to Linux.  Haven't tried it with Win95.


On 20 Oct, David Karlin wrote:
 Hi Michael,
 You wrote:
 I have a Linux server setup with a hybrid cable modem (down cable/up
 phone line)using ip masqurading.  Works great.
 
 The puzzle is that whenever I telnet to the server from my computer, the
 modem connects to the ISP. If the modem doesn't connect right away, the
 telnet session will delay starting. 
 
 What type of machine is running the telnet client?  My win95 machine
 starts to dial my modem everytime I telnet to my linux system. I'd be
 curious to know if you have that problem with a windows telnet client
 or another linux system.
 
 --David
 
 

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source install tracking

1998-10-20 Thread Leon Breedt
hi

is there a program to let me monitor any source installs i make?  i'm a
bit reluctant to do a 'make install' if i dont know what gets dumped on
my system, and where.

whats the best way to install programs from source?

regards

leon

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Re: Can I turn off portmap?

1998-10-20 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
According to Peter Iannarelli:
 I am sure you are right. I'm running xinetd for the added security.
 When I read my /etc/init.d/xinetd -- stop) It shuts down the
 portmapper. start) starts up the portmapper. It is true that
 it does not have to be run however, and correct me if I'm wrong
 it controls the initiation of listening daemons ( ie, in.telnetd ),
 as opposed to running in.telnetd as a deamon.

Nonono, the portmapper and inetd (or xinetd for that matter) are
*two very different things*

The portmapper is /usr/sbin/portmap.
It's for dispatching Remote Procedure Calls (well actually just
resolving RPC program number to TCP/UDP port). Such as NFS and NIS.

Inetd is /usr/sbin/inetd (or xinetd).
It's for starting daemons like telnetd and rlogind

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Re: StarOffice -or- Applixware 4.4.1

1998-10-20 Thread Damon Muller

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:38:13 -0700
Bob Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Should I keep my Applixware 4.4.1 suite or replace it with the StarOffice
 suite?

This isn't an answer to your question, sorry, but something I thought
was a little interesting...

I've been doing some research down at the Victorian Coroner's Court (I'm
a criminology student, studying homicide). In a day and age where most
government departments seem to be selling their souls to microsoft, the
coroner's court (well, at least the bits of it I see) are all running
Sun Sparc's, with a few X Terminals thrown in for good measure. 

Was quite interested to find out today that they all use Applix for all
their word processing and spreadsheets and all that (a Sun version,
obviously, but I don't imagine the Linux version is all that different).
Obviously it's quite usable in a busy office environment.

Unfortunately, I think they are talking about moving everyone to
Windows... Do think they should at least consider Linux tho! :)

damon

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Re: Desperately in need of a Database app....

1998-10-20 Thread Damon Muller

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:58:25 -0400
Person, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am looking for recommendations on a database. Nothing extravagant it
 mainly for home use right now. I'm looking for something to use in X
 along the lines of Access of Claris' db (I always forget the name - and
 I actually prefer this to Access...)

If you are one of those extravagent people who has more than one
computer, you could always run something like PostgreSQL or mySQL and
use their ODBC drivers to use them as a backend, but do all your
database design on Access... I'm thinking of doing this myself at the
moment with my homicide database, but I'm still trying to work out how
to tell mySQL that my other computer is allowed to connect to it...

There also seems to be some nice apps that talk to mySQL coming out (tho
I haven't played with many of them myself). Have a look at
http://freshmeat and search on SQL or mySQL.

BTW, mySQL is in non-free in Hamm.

HTH,

damon

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Re: Network adapters (speed 100MB)

1998-10-20 Thread Graham Ashton
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, jrivas wrote:

 Anybody knows some network adapter (speed 100MB) which supports linux
 drivers?

I never expected my first post to the debian list after having just
switched from Red Hat would be an answer(!), but...

Drivers exist for quite a few of them. I use 3com 3c905 cards and have had
no problems with them, but many recommend one of the many alternatives
instead (several people have reported great difficulty with them under
high loads). Another popular choice is the intel etherexpress.

I'd start by looking at Donald Becker's excellent drivers page;

http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/

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Re: Debian and K6-2

1998-10-20 Thread Frank Barknecht
Paulo J. da Silva e Silva hat gesagt: // Paulo J. da Silva e Silva wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am planning to do an upgrade from a Pentium 233MHz to an K6-2 350MHz. I
 really like the idea of a faster processor combined with a faster bus. Maybe
 I'll manage to compile the kernel in less than 3 minutes :-)!
 
 But I would like to know if Linux behave well in such machines. I've heard
 that tere are two K6 bugs that can't be worked around by kernel (and are
 reported at boot time). What are they? Are they dangerous?

This was the case with very early AMD K6 chips and has long been resolved.
Everything by AMD above 266 MHz never had those problems. 
Also the 100MHz bus speed of the newer motherboards usually work well.
Go for it!
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Re: Network adapters (speed 100MB)

1998-10-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, jrivas wrote:

 : Anybody knows some network adapter (speed 100MB) which supports linux
 : drivers?

Netgear FA-310TX does, and does it transparently - plug the card into a
10Base hub, it runs 10 Mbps ... plug it into a 10/100 switch and it
switches to 100 Mbps full-duplex ... and the machine remains on the
whole time :)

They use the tulip driver.  In the US the cards sell for about $35 each.

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Automate UPPER to lower case directory

1998-10-20 Thread Anthony Landreneau
Greetings,
Trying to automate work done by some WIN95/NT people who don't 
understand
upper/lower case.  I have a directory of files that are upper case and need
to be brought to lower case. Does anyones have a program or script that
could help me do about 400 files?

Thanks,

Anthony Landreneau
Infinity Data Systems


Re: simple GTK programs don't compile

1998-10-20 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| DEar all,
| 
|   I donwloaded a really simple GTK program, and tryed to build it:
| 
| ld: cannot open -lXi: No such file or directory
| 
| What is going wrong, please?

You probably haven't got xlib6g-dev installed. If you do, something is
boroken, but you can create it yourself with

ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6.0 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so

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Re: source install tracking

1998-10-20 Thread Mitch Blevins
Leon Breedt wrote:
 hi
 
 is there a program to let me monitor any source installs i make?  i'm a
 bit reluctant to do a 'make install' if i dont know what gets dumped on
 my system, and where.
 
 whats the best way to install programs from source?

installwatch does this...
http://appindex.freshmeat.net/view/907109750/

-Mitch



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Re: Automate UPPER to lower case directory

1998-10-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Anthony Landreneau wrote:

 : Greetings,
 :  Trying to automate work done by some WIN95/NT people who don't 
understand
 : upper/lower case.  I have a directory of files that are upper case and need
 : to be brought to lower case. Does anyones have a program or script that
 : could help me do about 400 files?

I'm sure my script won't be the prettiest one, but here it is:

for file in `echo [A-Z]*`; do mv $file `echo $file | tr A-Z a-z`; done

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Re: simple GTK programs don't compile

1998-10-20 Thread M.C. Vernon
On 20 Oct 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote:

 *-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |
 | DEar all,
 | 
 | I donwloaded a really simple GTK program, and tryed to build it:
 | 
 | ld: cannot open -lXi: No such file or directory
 | 
 | What is going wrong, please?
 
 You probably haven't got xlib6g-dev installed. If you do, something is
 boroken, but you can create it yourself with

True, but when I try to install it, it fails:
trying to overwrite '/usr/X11R6/bin/gccmakedep', which is also in package
xbase

Should I force-overwrite, or will this screw xbase?

Matthew

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Re: Automate UPPER to lower case directory

1998-10-20 Thread servis
*- Anthony Landreneau wrote about Automate UPPER to lower case directory
| Greetings,
|   Trying to automate work done by some WIN95/NT people who don't 
understand
| upper/lower case.  I have a directory of files that are upper case and need
| to be brought to lower case. Does anyones have a program or script that
| could help me do about 400 files?
| 

Install the mmv package, read the man page and then issue

mmv * #l1

This will match all files in the directory and convert there names to
lowercase.


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Re: Network adapters (speed 100MB)

1998-10-20 Thread Blazej Sawionek
 Anybody knows some network adapter (speed 100MB) which supports linux
 drivers?
Kingston KNE100TX

B.


Re: Automate UPPER to lower case directory

1998-10-20 Thread Blazej Sawionek
 Trying to automate work done by some WIN95/NT people who don't 
 understand
 upper/lower case.  I have a directory of files that are upper case and need
 to be brought to lower case. Does anyones have a program or script that
 could help me do about 400 files?
man mmv

B.


Re: Automate UPPER to lower case directory

1998-10-20 Thread Mitch Blevins
Nathan E Norman wrote:
 On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Anthony Landreneau wrote:
 
  : Greetings,
  :Trying to automate work done by some WIN95/NT people who don't 
 understand
  : upper/lower case.  I have a directory of files that are upper case and need
  : to be brought to lower case. Does anyones have a program or script that
  : could help me do about 400 files?
 
 I'm sure my script won't be the prettiest one, but here it is:
 
 for file in `echo [A-Z]*`; do mv $file `echo $file | tr A-Z a-z`; done

Anthony should also note that, if these files are created on a
Samba share, that there is a Samba option to have these files
auto-converted as they are created.

-Mitch



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RE: Automate UPPER to lower case directory

1998-10-20 Thread Andrew Chittenden
WARNING: I have had files disappear on me when using such a script when the
target filesystem is on a Win32 machine. It is safer to rename them via an
intermediate name:

for file in $*
do
to=`echo $file | tr [:upper:] [:lower:]`
mv $file $to.newone;mv $to.newone $to
done

Rgds, Andy Chittenden

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Re: (UK question) Help with diald and ISP demon.co

1998-10-20 Thread john
G. Kapetanios writes:
 I was wondering whether anyone on the list has managed to use diald with
 the UK ISP demon. If so could you help help with the setup of the connect
 script ?

The chatscripts generated by pppconfig work fine with diald.  Just replace
the default 'connect' line in /etc/diald/diald.options with

connect chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider
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Re: xmkmf generates bad Makefiles

1998-10-20 Thread Andy Spiegl
Would someone please be so kind to comment on this?  Thank you!
 Andy.

| Hi!
| 
| whenever I do a xmkmf to get a Makefile from an Imakefile I have
| to do manual editing of the Makefile before I can use it.  All the
| comment lines start with
|  XCOMM
| instead of
|  #
| 
| I don't have this problem at other unix machines (at work), so I
| suppose it could be a debian misconfiguration.  Also, I found a
| reference to this problem in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.rules:
| 
| /*
|  * Translate XCOMM into pound sign with sed, rather than passing -DXCOMM=XCOMM
|  * to cpp, because that trick does not work on all ANSI C preprocessors.
|  * Also delete line numbers from the cpp output (-P is not portable, I guess).
|  */
| #ifndef CppSedMagic
| #define CppSedMagic sed -e '/^#  *[0-9][0-9]*  *.*$$/d' -e '/^XCOMM$$/s//#/' \
|   -e '/^XCOMM[a-zA-Z0-9_]/s/^XCOMM/#/'
| #endif /* CppSedMagic */
| 
| But I have no idea how to make use of this.  Anyone?


Thanks,
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Re: Problem duplicating system

1998-10-20 Thread Andy Spiegl
According to Ole J. Tetlie [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I'm not sure if the cp on the floppies is different from the normal cp.
 Have you tried 'cp -a source destination'?

Unfortunately it is very different.  It can hardly do anything.
According to cp -h it accepts -r for recursive copying, but
I didn't get it to work.  Besides it wouldn't copy links etc. correctly.

Anyone else?

Thanks, 
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Exim for local mail?

1998-10-20 Thread Tom Pfeifer
This is a really basic question on setting up exim for local mail, which
is eluding me.

I have a two machine home network, both running Hamm. The machines are
named/addressed as follows:

newdebian.pfeifer.home  (192.168.1.1)
olddebian.pfeifer.home  (192.168.1.2)
pfeifer.home(192.168.1.0)

All other network communication between the machines works great -
telnet, ftp, nfs, etc, but I can't get exim to deliver mail from one to
the other. It works fine from one user to another on the same machine.

Here is what I did to set it up:

1) Ran eximconfig and set it up for local mail delivery only (choice 4)
   and accepted all defaults for the questions. 
2) Edited /etc/exim.conf and made one change, which was to add the other
   host to the local_domains field on each machine, so that it is
   considered a local machine. I've also tried it *without* editing this
   file with the same results as shown below.
3) I've verifed that exim is started by inetd with the
   /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs command line in /etc/inetd.conf

Here's two examples of what happens:
-
1) There is one user of the same name on both machines. If I send mail
from one to the other, the mail comes back to the user on the sending
machine, but never gets delivered to the other.

For example, if I send mail

  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  to:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

the mail goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Here's the header:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 20 11:03:14 1998
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:03:14 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: hello
From: Thomas Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:03:13 -0400
---
2) If I send mail to a valid user of a different name on the other
machine, the mail again does not get delivered, but the sender gets an
error mail message that looks like this:

From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Oct 20 11:21:10 1998
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:21:10 -0400
X-Failed-Recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:21:10 -0400

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients.
The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
unknown local-part karen in domain olddebian.pfeifer.home
---

Again, mail between users on the same machine works fine. Obviously I'm
mising *something* in setting this up, but I see nothing in the config
file that looks like it applies. Maybe I just misunderstand how to enter
the domain names in /etc/exim.conf. Here's the applicable lines on the
newdebian machine - I only changed the 3rd line:

qualify_domain = newdebian.pfeifer.home
# qualify_recipient =
local_domains = olddebian.pfeifer.home
local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true


I'm reading the exim docs, but if anyone sees what my problem is, or
things I should look at, I'd appreciate the help.

Thanks,
Tom


Re: two things

1998-10-20 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Shane Wegner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 2)  When I installed slackware, I did it over a null-modem serial
 connection to an ms-dos machine running a program called telix.  I do this
 because I use screen reading software to read the screen and as of yet,
 there is nothing available under Linux.  Therefore, in slackware I log in
 as root and go.
 /sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS0 vt100
 and do the whole setup remotely by running setup from the remote machine.
 Is this possible to do while using Debian?  I understand that it goes into
 the setup program as soon as you boot the bootdisk or cdrom so you'd have
 to break out somehow and spawn the agetty and run it from the remote
 machine.  Anyone have any hints on how to do it?

Hmm, I have thought about this, too. I run several boxes with a serial
console, but actually I never tested to install one over serial line. It's
not as easy as you describe with slackware - there is no getty on the rescue
disc. dinstall (the setup program on the rescue disc) doesn't need one.

Maybe It's still doable with a modified rescue disk: 
 patch the kernel with sercons support (to see boot messages on your serial
 line and to hopefully fake your real tty) or use a recent 2.1 kernel

 make /dev/tty0 what usually becomes /dev/console for sercons kernel
 (dinstall seems to open /dev/tty0 instead of /dev/console). Alternatively
 one may patch dinstall to open the required /dev/console.

 replace syslinux with lilo (to get your bootprompt on serial line).
 Alternatively you may hardcode the boot parameters in syslinux.cfg.

 hope dinstall doesn't fail eg. when loading the keymap...

I'll try this if you're interested.


Rainer

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Re: just shoot me

1998-10-20 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:17:11 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 04:40:02PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 Personally, on production machines that you don't have access to easily
 enough (for me that is walking into the next room) I'd not even think of
 upgrading from a stable to a frozen.  I'd just ride the stables out.

Each to their own; I upgraded my production box from bo to hamm
pre-autoup and even pre-HOWTO and all the way to final hamm without

Right.  For me I fubared a kernel upgrade of my machine at home.  I was
at work at the time and ended up having an 8 hour downtime because I couldn't
immediately access the machine.  I think what I should have said is simply to
take your chances on the upgrades.  Debian is very good about stability on
upgrades but, as with anything, there will be problems.  I don't think I'll
ever really complain about a show stopper like that in an unstable branch
when it causes problems I could have avoided by doing the upgrade while in a
position that made it easy to back out of it.

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Re: Network adapters (speed 100MB)

1998-10-20 Thread Jens Ritter
jrivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anybody knows some network adapter (speed 100MB) which supports linux
 drivers?

We use Lantronics 100 Mb with tulip chipset on the routers of our
network successfully.

Jens

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Re: bitmap to outline postscript

1998-10-20 Thread Carl Johnson
George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

He seems to occationally reply on comp.lang.postscript, or
you can try his web page at http://www.tinaja.com.

 Where is Don Lancaster when you need him?
 
 
 On 20 Oct 1998, Jens Ritter wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Harding) writes:
  
   Basically: given, e.g., the bit pattern
   
  000
 0   0
00   00
00   00
 0   0
  000
   
   is there a program which would take this pattern and produce an
   economical PostScript code which would operate by drawing two ellipses as
   smooth curves and filling the space between them?
  
  Corel Draw comes with a utility capable of converting bitmaps to
  vector format --- but it does not always produce smooth curves.
  
  And it is not available for linux.
  
  Jens
  
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xterm: select and paste query

1998-10-20 Thread Dean Allen Provins
Hello:

I recently installed Debian 2.0 from the Cheapbytes CD (July 21 record
date).  After the usual 'monkeying around', I got X up and running,
using my favourite windowing system - OpenLook (virtual) Window
Manager (olvwm).

I observed two differences from what I expected:  firstly, 'xterm'
cut and paste no longer worked (selection seems functional, but I
can't paste); and secondly, the 6 xterm windows that I 'opened' via the
'.openwin-init' file all appeared in the same (lower left hand) virtual
window - even though the geometry specifications indicated that they
should be distributed one per virtual window.

With respect to the individual xterm windows, 'mouse button' -
'control key' sequences didn't bring up the menu I expected.  For
example, there was no reverse video option, nor a Tek window option
(something I never used, but was always there).

If you have any idea what I may be doing wrong (I expect that it is
some configuration file, but which), please advise.

Thanks,

Dean


dvi viewer in 2.0

1998-10-20 Thread CHUCK
I have just upgraded to 2.0. Previously I could view .dvi files with xdvi.
It is no longer present. Is there a .dvi viewer (preferably for x) that
does not require a tetex installation?
  Thanks
   Chuck Kaufman
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Exim for local mail?

1998-10-20 Thread Tom Pfeifer
George Bonser wrote:
 
 On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
 
 
  qualify_domain = newdebian.pfeifer.home
  # qualify_recipient =
  local_domains = olddebian.pfeifer.home
  local_domains_include_host = true
  local_domains_include_host_literals = true
 

That is the file on newdebian. OK, it's wrong, but then how would I tell
it to deliver to the other machine? That's what I don't understand.
The docs don't give any *specific* examples with fields filled in for me
to look at.

Tom


Re: dvi viewer in 2.0

1998-10-20 Thread Paul Seelig
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have just upgraded to 2.0. Previously I could view .dvi files with xdvi.
 It is no longer present. Is there a .dvi viewer (preferably for x) that
 does not require a tetex installation?

Yes, there is tmview-98.06, which is split into the two .deb packages
dvisvga for the console and dvilx for X11. Both work just great and
especially dvisvga is a great means for having true WYSIWYG right at the
console. These packages are not present in Debian-2.0 but you can easily
fetch the sources from frozen and compile it yourself. I've already done
so for Debian-2.0 and you can get the binaries from our unofficial site at
ftp://ietpd1.sowi.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian/unofficial/{source,binary}; as
dvilx_98.06-1_i386.deb, dvisvga_98.06-1_i386.deb and tmview_98.06* for the
sources. An updated lyx-1.0.0pre2 package is available too.

 Cheers, P. *8^)
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PGCC, GCC, EGCC, SCC (Swarc), ARGH!!

1998-10-20 Thread Adam Greene
Which compiler is best, recommended, etc.  Does one compiler optimize for
Pentium, PentiumMMX, PentiumII, K6, K6-2, Cyrix 6x86MX, Cyrix MII, IDT
Winchip6(-2).  I know Swarc does the different MMX flavours and is working
on 3Dnow! (by using a variant on C).  But will EGCC / PGCC ever support
these??


Realplayer only works as root

1998-10-20 Thread Eric
I downloaded and installed the latest version of realplayer recently.  I
got the Redhat package and used alien to convert it to a deb.  It seemed
to install fine, but when I run it as a normal user and try to play
something (even the welcome.rm) it says File compression not supported.
Cannot locate the requested RealAudio decoder.  For more information,
please see Error 38 at: http://www.realaudio.com/help/errors;  I checked
this out, but it didn't help me at all.  As root everything works fine.  I
ran ldconfig, but that didn't seem to help.

Can anyone make this thing work?

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Re: Automate UPPER to lower case directory

1998-10-20 Thread Anthony Landreneau
Thanks guys, got the job done.  I love ths little script, fits well in my
/usr/bin too!
Tell you, you don't get help like this from Microsoft!

Thanks again,

Anthony Landrenea
Infinity Data Systems


I think this is from some HOWTO but I forget which one:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$less up2lo
#!/bin/sh

#
# up2lo - rename files from uppercase to lower case.
#
for i in $*
do
file=`echo $i | tr [A-Z] [a-z]`
mv $i $file
done



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Re: Cam I turn off portmap?

1998-10-20 Thread Anthony Campbell
Thanks to all for replies. It seems that I can turn off portmap without
anything terrible happening. It also seems that I might turn off inetd since
I don't log in remotely and I am the only user. However, man inetd says that
it is providing several `trivial' services internally, some of which I
presume I want, so perhaps I'd better keep it.

Anthony


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Re: Realplayer only works as root

1998-10-20 Thread Joey Hess
Use rvplayer.deb to install it.

Eric wrote:
 I downloaded and installed the latest version of realplayer recently.  I
 got the Redhat package and used alien to convert it to a deb.  It seemed
 to install fine, but when I run it as a normal user and try to play
 something (even the welcome.rm) it says File compression not supported.
 Cannot locate the requested RealAudio decoder.  For more information,
 please see Error 38 at: http://www.realaudio.com/help/errors;  I checked
 this out, but it didn't help me at all.  As root everything works fine.  I
 ran ldconfig, but that didn't seem to help.
 
 Can anyone make this thing work?
 
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2 XServers on 1 terminal?

1998-10-20 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi,

Could I run 2 X servers on one comupter?  So that Alt-F7 correspond to first 
session, and Alt-F8 for the second session?  There are 2 people working on one 
computer, and we don't want to mess each other X sessions.

Thanks,
Sasha.


LS120 problems

1998-10-20 Thread James G. MacKinnon
A few weeks ago, I got a new office computer (a P II) with an ATAPI LS120
installed. The kernel (2.0.34, Debian 2.0) had no trouble detecting it as
an ide-floppy, and I was able to mount it as type vfat with no problems.

Since a single LS120 is not much use, I next had one installed in my home
machine (a Pentium Pro, about 2 years old). With the same kernel version,
which has IDE floppy support compiled in, I cannot get it to work at all!
On bootup, the kernel reports that it is an ATAPI unknown device, type
31, and, when I try to mount it, I am told that /dev/hdd is not a block
device.

Has anyone else encountered and solved a similar problem?  I suspect that
either the drive itself or the BIOS is not correctly reporting this device
to the kernel. Is it the responsibility of the BIOS to do this? If so,
would a newer BIOS solve the problem?

Presumably I could get it to work if I could tell the kernel that /dev/hdd
is an LS120, perhaps using an append statement in lilo.conf. I looked at
the documentation for the IDE drivers in the 2.0.34 kernel and could not
find such a thing. You can tell the kernel that a device is a cdrom, but
not that it is an ide-floppy.

Before anyone asks, I don't have any version of Windows on either machine,
so I have no idea whether the LS120 at home works with another operating
system.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

James G. MacKinnon   Department of Economics
phone: 613 545-2293  Queen's University
  Fax: 613 545-2257  Kingston, Ontario, Canada
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