Re: Distribucion mixta
Bueno , yo creo que si se puede hacer Yo solo quiero usar el xserver de openlinux unicamente y el 95 % debian Para poder trabajar bien Yo casi lo logre solo me falto un pequeno detallado el dselect no me corria decia que no era ejecutable cuande le dije chmod +a+x dselect Chao Lord of linux ---TooManySecrets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lord Of Linux el día Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 06:12:52AM -0800 expuso lo siguiente: Debido a ciertos problemas con el Xserve de debian ( solo me trabaja a 8 bpp ) Me gustaria usar el Xserve de Openlinux copiar los achivos bases de debian ( dselect , deb, etc ) e instalar las apps de debian Alguien sabe como yo puedo crear esa distribucion mixta ??? Bueno, algunas cosas de una distribución las puedes meter en la otra, pero una distribución mixta... creo que es como intentar sacar algo de un cruce entre un caballo y un pez... ¿un caballito de mar? -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: iconos desaparecidos en menus de KDE 1.0
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Juanmi Mora wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Melkor wrote: Yo he instalado esa version, para probarla (estoy muy agusto con Gnome, pese a que todavia tiene muchos problemas) y no tengo los problemas que dices. Debe de ser un error en la instalacion. Prueba a instalar otra vez el paquete de kdeutils. Que puedes contar de gnome. Yo lo he intentado instalar, pero desgraciadamente pago teléfono y estaba harto de bajar tantas librerías que necesitaba. Saludos!!! Juanmi Mora Barcelona - España [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Powered by Linux - Debian 2.0 Saludos, Pese a estar en un periodo de exposicion que se puede llamar critico, cuando falta poco para la congelacion y la aceptacion del usuario es muy necesitada, y pese a ser pocos los desarrolladores, puedo afirmar que Gnome esta perfectamente capacitado para coger a Kde en cuanto a prestaciones y facilidad de uso. Ciertamente, muchos de los que trabajamos con Gnome (yo lo alterno con AfterStep, aunque no sabria decirte por que) estamos contentos con el resultado. Una de las caracteristicas mas destacables es que no hay que sufrir la cantidad de tiempo que se toma Kde cuando lo cargas un poquito. Y, en contra de lo que dicen muchos, Gnome no es tan inestable. Como todos, sufri un poquito al instalarlo (lo primero fue partiendo de unos .rpm convertidos por alien, y fue un verdadero desastre). Pero vale la pena. Melkor...
compilación kernel
Buenas. Resulta que si ejecuto el make-kpkg con un kernel que haya instalado en formato *.deb, todo me va de maravillas. Pero si instalo uno, de los típicos, en formato tar.gz, no puedo compilarlo y hacer paquete con el make-kpkg. ¿Qué tendría que hacer para poder hacerlo? Gracias por todo. -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings)
Programacion en C
Hola, Me encanta el lenguaje de programación C y ahora me gustaria usarlo con Debian. 1) ¿Puede alguien decirme si existe algun entorno de desarrollo de aplicaciones en C.? 2) ¿Que otros entornos de desarrollo existen? Gracias a todos.
make-kpkg 2
Buenas. He destarado ;-) el kernel 2.0.36, y le he copiado los directorios y archivos debian/ y stamp-x que me aparecen con el kernel 34 de la distribución. Hago el make-kpkg --revision x kernel_image y todo parece ir bien, excepto al final, que me dice ésto. dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.36 -Pdebian/tmp-image/ no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME (root) at /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16. dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.0.36 not in control info make: *** [stamp-image] Error 29 Dos veces lo he probado, y las dos a acabado diciéndome ésto. Por favor ¿alguna ayudita? Gracias por todo. -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings)
Re: Distribucion mixta
Lord Of Linux el día Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 07:54:16PM -0800 expuso lo siguiente: Bueno , yo creo que si se puede hacer Yo solo quiero usar el xserver de openlinux unicamente y el 95 % debian Para poder trabajar bien Siendo así no creo que tengas ningún tipo de problema. Otra cosa es que, tal y como entendí en tu anterior emilio, quisieras mezclar a saco las dos distribuciones. Yo casi lo logre solo me falto un pequeno detallado el dselect no me corria decia que no era ejecutable cuande le dije chmod +a+x dselect Si he entendido bien, tienes una distribución Debian donde quieres instalar un Xserver de OpenLinux. ¿Cómo es que tienes problemas con el dselect del tipo que citas? Veamos, el 5% que parece ser no es de Debian... ¿de qué paquetes se trata? -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings)
Re: make-kpkg 2
TooManySecrets wrote: Buenas. He destarado ;-) el kernel 2.0.36, y le he copiado los directorios y archivos debian/ y stamp-x que me aparecen con el kernel 34 de la distribución. Hago el make-kpkg --revision x kernel_image y todo parece ir bien, excepto al final, que me dice ésto. dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.36 -Pdebian/tmp-image/ no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME (root) at /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16. dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.0.36 not in control info make: *** [stamp-image] Error 29 Tiene en debian/control la información que le has pasado (de la 2.0.34), pero intentas compilar una 2.0.36 y se queja. No necesitas para nada copiar la información de las versiones anteriores del kernel, make-kpgg lo creará. Así que simplemente destarra y lanza el make-kpkg desde ahí (configure,limpia,crea imagen), sin añadir nada de versiones anteriores del kernel Siempre que cambies el nombre de la imagen del kernel haz, después de configurar las opciones del kernel make-kpkg clean Puede que incluso sea suficiente en tu caso. Saludos, -- = Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 91-336-6536, Fax: +34 91-336-6554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html
RE: Programacion en C
Agustín Martín dijo: Me encanta el lenguaje de programación C ... ¡A mi tambien!. 1) ¿Puede alguien decirme si existe algun entorno de desarrollo de aplicaciones en C.? ENTORNOS INTEGRADOS DEDESARROLLO: *A modo DOS/Borland: xwpe, realmente bueno. *A modo UNIX: emacs, de lo más flexible y configurable. DEPURADORES: *ddd, realmente espectacular, lo mejor que he visto nunca. Si tu programa es C++, flipa con la depuración de objetos en forma gráfica (herencias, memoria,..). 2) ¿Que otros entornos de desarrollo existen? Si quieres tener el control absoluto de la compilación, enlace y control de versiones de tus programas, sin duda lo más potente y portable a cualquier UNIX es make a pelo. Esto es lo que yo utilizo, no es en formáto gráfico, pero una vez comprendido su cómo funciona y lo potente que es, no te apetecerá usar otra cosa. Gracias a todos. A ti. Si quieres informacioón más precisa, indícalo. Saludos, Javi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Programacion en C
[Mira la respuesta de Javier para algo mas civilizado -- la pregunta es demasiado tentadora como para dejarla pasar] On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 10:43:43AM +0100, Marcelino Valles wrote: 1) ¿Puede alguien decirme si existe algun entorno de desarrollo de aplicaciones en C.? El mas absolutamente fantastico de todos: el shell. (El shell de Unix *es* y ha sido tradicionalmente un entorno de desarrollo para C) Marcelo
Linux Actual .... y un poco de comodidad
Primero que nada dar las gracias por leer este misero mensaje ;) Resulta que anoche mismito me pelee con los paquetes rpm de KDE que tenia en un CDACTUAL (num:27)... Todo funciona prefe. Tengo la Debian 2.0 (hamm), y quisiera saber si alguien sabe donde puedo encontrar el Koffice para la glibc. A alguien se le ha escapado que habia instalado el KDE de la Linux Actual de este mes Esta el Koffice en el CD ??? mill (1000.0001) gracias de antemano
RE: StarOffice
Hola, alguien puede decirme dónde puedo encontrar el StarOffice 5, bien sea para bajarlo con ftp, o mejor si es publicado en alguna revista. En mi página web dedicada a Linux: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/linux/linux_home.html sección noticias, indico dónde está StarOffice 5.0 en un sitio ftp cercano español, el método aconsejado y lo que te costará aproximadamente bajarlo. La página está en construcción desde ayer así que perdón por los errores de carga de imagenes que tiene. Gracias No hay de qué. Javi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux actual y la madre que la...
Ante todo perdón por el off-topic... Soy subscriptor de Linux Actual y me encuentro que me llegan los numeros de 3 semanas a mes y medio despues de haber salido a la venta... e incluso los dos meses de retardo. Vivo cerca de barcelona y no tengo problemas con otras publicaciones. ¿ Hay mas subscriptores en la lista ? Me gustaria saber si soy el unico desgraciado o si es norma de la revista, en cuyo caso no pienso renovar mi subscripción. Alguna opinion? Un saludo, Juan Carlos Valero --
RE: Linux actual y la madre que la...
A mí me pasa parecido. Todas me llegan con unas 3 semanas de retraso, excepto el número 3, que no me llegó en mes y medio. Llamé, me quejé, y me enviaron otro ejemplar que me llegó en 15 días. Cuando me llegó, tenía el CD medio partido, y no iba. Llamé, se lo mandé por correo para que me lo cambiaran... y aún estoy esperando. Mi opinión es que tampoco renovaré la subscripción. Saludos Javi -- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: miércoles 9 de diciembre de 1998 16:48 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Linux actual y la madre que la... Ante todo perdón por el off-topic... Soy subscriptor de Linux Actual y me encuentro que me llegan los numeros de 3 semanas a mes y medio despues de haber salido a la venta... e incluso los dos meses de retardo. Vivo cerca de barcelona y no tengo problemas con otras publicaciones. ¿ Hay mas subscriptores en la lista ? Me gustaria saber si soy el unico desgraciado o si es norma de la revista, en cuyo caso no pienso renovar mi subscripción. Alguna opinion? Un saludo, Juan Carlos Valero -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Distribucion mixta (cont)
TooManySecrets Tengo dos distribuciones actualmente debian y openlinux. Cuando instale Debian el xserve me daba falla no me permitia usar los 16 bpp solo me trabaja con 8 bpp y me lo reconocia como una SVGA cuando en realidad era una S3V Asi que decidi usar mi viejo xserve que me trabajaba perfectamente y usar todas las apps de debian Lo que hice fue lo siguiente En una particion instale debian (solo los archivos base para poder instalar ) En otra particion instale openlinux con el xserver y S3V luego monte la particion debian copie el directorio bin y el /usr/bin en openlinux coloque algo asi chmod +a+x * trate de corre el dselect y no me corria estoy tratando de averiguar que hice mal :_) CHaO Lord of linux _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Driver para Syquest
Hola Alguien sabe si existen y donde puedo bajar los drivers para el systema de backups Syquest EZflyer ? Gracias Hernan Mauricio Velasquez Ingenieria de Sistemas y Computacion Universidad de los Andes Santafe de Bogota, Colombia
Re: make-kpkg 2
On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 12:04:50PM +0100, TooManySecrets wrote: Buenas. He destarado ;-) el kernel 2.0.36, y le he copiado los directorios y archivos debian/ y stamp-x que me aparecen con el kernel 34 de la distribución. Hago el make-kpkg --revision x kernel_image y todo parece ir bien, excepto al final, que me dice ésto. dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.36 -Pdebian/tmp-image/ no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME (root) at /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16. dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.0.36 not in control info make: *** [stamp-image] Error 29 Dos veces lo he probado, y las dos a acabado diciéndome ésto. Por favor ¿alguna ayudita? No quiero parecer desconfiado, pero ¿te has leido /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz ? ;-) Lo digo porque no hace falta copiar ningún directorio debian o stamp-x ni nada de eso. Basta con: - cd cualquier directorio que te apetezca, y donde puedas escribir - tar -xvzf donde sea que esté/linux-2.0.36.tgz - cd linux - make config(o menuconfig, o xconfig, ...) - make-kpkg clean(no es imprescindible, pero soy un poco paranóico) - LC_ALL=C fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=toomany.1.0 kernel_image (^-- algunas versiones del dpkg se lían si usamos otro idioma) y obtendrás tu kernel en ../kernel-image-*.deb Ni siquiera tienes que ser root para hacerlo. Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Programacion en C - info.
¡Hola a todos! En vista de los últimos mails que se han visto en las listas de linux, os hago llegar esta info que quizá os pueda ser de interés. Estoy poniendo en marcha una página sobre el lenguaje c en http://ccp.servidores.net/c Preparado para recibir sugerencias, críticas, info,... Un saludo, Carlos. +-- C a r l o s C o s t a P o r t e l a + | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: ccp.servidores.net | | Tódalas persoas maiores foron nenos antes, pero poucas se lembran.| +---+
Re: Programacion en C
Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote: ... DEPURADORES: *ddd, realmente espectacular, lo mejor que he visto nunca. Si tu programa es C++, flipa con la depuración de objetos en forma gráfica (herencias, memoria,..). ... Al hilo de esta respuesta...¿ como puedo saber si un programa C++ libera la memoria que ha solicitado dinámicamente ?, ¿ con el ddd ?, ¿ donde ? le he estado dando vueltas a los menús y no lo he encontrado :-( ¿ Con algún otro programa/utilidad ?, con el gdb tampoco he sabido hacerlo ;-( Muchas gracias por anticipado. Un saludo. Alfredo.
Re: ack! I've hosed init
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard L. Alhama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seems like I'm in big trouble here. I've experimented update-rc.d and now init doesn't know it's runlevel. Well, I can boot but when I issue reboot it coughs up something like: couldn't determine runlevel... doing soft reboot instead. then it reboots. This means your /var/run/utmp file is severely messed up, because that is where the runlevel is stored. Besides, it is good practice to use shutdown -r now instead of reboot. Or just press ctrlaltdel, because then init just calls the command shutdown -r now for you. Mike. -- Indifference will certainly be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
Debian installation hangs
Hi, I've been trying my first ever Linux installation from a Debian 2.0 CD, and have run into problems which are beyond me at the moment. I'd be really grateful for some help. The installation (CD or rescue floppy) loads the Linux kernel, and during the long series of hardware detection messages, successfully detects all the IDE devices and then hangs on the line. md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4 MAX_REAL=8 I've tried many times over with both media, and it always hangs in the same place. After this, I tried a RedHat 5.2 CD which installed successfully first time; on this one, the equivalent line was md driver 0.36.3etc So now I have a working RedHat install, but I'd actually set my heart on Debian. What hardware is this md driver supposed to be driving, and how possible is it to get a Debian boot/rescue disk with the later working (on my PC) version of it? BTW, at three days into being a Linux user, I don't yet feel up to the compile-your-own option. Here are the gory hardware details in case they help Dell PC with pentium 133 CPU PCI motherboad, Triton chipset 32MB RAM 4 (E)IDE devices Maxtor 7.5 Gb disk WD 1.6 Gb disk SyQuest IDE SyJet Teac IDE CD-ROM S3 Trio video card Soundblaster AWE32 Thanks in advance Mark Weston
Re: ssh with password
On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 10:48:43PM +0100, Torsten Hilbrich wrote: On: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 10:52:33 -0500 AJ writes: password in the opening command.. is there a way to edit ssh so that u can type something like: ssh -l login -p password host.com ? or is there a way to specify the password for this host so it doesnt ask you? Use ssh-keygen with an empty password[1] and follow the instruction in ssh(1): [exerpt from ssh-manpage deleted] I just tried it and it works in the way you probably want. *ARG* You should not do this and you don't need to. You can use ssh-agent in your .xsession-Script to get your passphrase and authenticate yourself for this session. Just do eval `ssh-agent` ssh-add # this will open a window to ask you for your passphrase /usr/bin/wmaker # for example eval `ssh-agent -k` # kill the ssh-agent Footnotes: [1] The use of empty passphrases is strongly discouraged in ssh-agent(1). Exactly :) cu Torsten pgp9O2TxBTG9W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: terminal window
1) I never used pppconfig but I think it strange that username/password is all it can handle. 2) Perhaps configure the chatscript by hand ? 3) xisp has the ability to open a terminal. But then again, I never needed this terminal. hello I need to open a terminal window for my dial-up ppp connection. I have to pass more than just the username/password. I used pppconfig, but it wasn't enough for the extras. How do I open a terminal window for dial-up connections? thanks
exim rewriting rules
I have a line in my exim.conf that rewrites my from and reply-to addresses, like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fr danel698... is my 'real' mail address, on my POP3 mail-server. I don't want people to get my [EMAIL PROTECTED], since I don't have my computer turned on all the time. The problem is that it doesn't work with local mail. For example, when I 'mail daniel' on my own computer, the from-address isn't changed to 'danel698...'. How could one fix this?
Re: finding a package name given a filename
Subject: Re: finding a package name given a filename Date: Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 10:41:24PM +0200 In reply to:Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho Quoting Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 03:51:30PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with a lot of packages is that the executable is linked from a shorter name, and the links are not part of the package but are created in the postinst scripts. The xemacs example is a really good one. /usr/bin/xemacs - /etc/alternatives/xemacs /etc/alternatives/xemacs - /usr/bin/xemacs20 /usr/bin/xemacs20 - /etc/alternatives/xemacs20 /etc/alternatives/xemacs20 - /usr/bin/xemacs-20.4-nomule (finally!!!) So doing a 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/xemacs' would not work because /usr/bin/xemacs is actually not in the xemacs20-nomule package but is created after the package is extracted. I was thinking about this, tried to find a utility to chase a symbolic link to a real file, but failed. I even asked if a local Unix guru knew one. He didn't. So I wrote one. Here's a sample session with it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:25:31]:~$ dpkg -S `chase /usr/bin/xemacs` xemacs20-nomule: /usr/bin/xemacs-20.4-nomule [EMAIL PROTECTED]:26:16]:~$ The `chase' here is my small utility. Basically it takes a file name and finds the name of the real file it refers to, recursively dereferencing all the symlinks it encounters. The source tarball (with a copy of GNU GPL and all the Autoconf bells and whistles) is currently 28kB. If anyone is interested, I might upload it somewhere (probably metalab aka sunsite), or even generate a .deb of it (though I can't upload it to Debian yet, as I'm still waiting for my developer status application to be fully processed). Is anyone interested enough to make an upload worthwhile at this point? Yes, I am. Any help on Debian(ese) would be appreciated! Antti-Juhani -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% About to generate a new signature, please wait... -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home. -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society Convention, 1977 ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [exim/fetchmail] A day in the life of an email
Mark Phillips wrote: I am looking at setting up mail properly on my machine. I have an email account at university and use ppp to gain dial-up access to uni. I wish to set things up so that I can receive and send email from my local machine (rather than rlogin to a uni machine to read email as I do at the moment.) It is nice to have both these options available to you. Please excuse my ignorance, but I am a bit unsure about what I must do and about exactly what happens with email. Here is my current understanding of what the story is: 1. Email arrives at the mail server at uni with the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] and is stored in a spool directory there. True. 2. I contact the mail server using fetchmail, asking it very nicely to remove the email from my spool directory there, and send it to my machine at home. Fetchmail does this with the POP protocol. You have to configure the politeness level in .fetchmailrc ;) 3. Fetchmail feeds this email into some black box (I don't understand this bit - is it a file or is it a program that is sitting around waiting for such events???). Exim somehow notices that there is email coming into this black box and stores this in /var/spool/exim/input. Exim then looks and sees that the domain of the message is ist.flinders.edu.au. Fortunately this domain has been configured as the local domain in exim.conf so exim knows to distribute these messages to local users. It then sees the user is mark and so knows to distribute this to mark on the local machine. It moves the email from /var/spool/exim/input to /var/spool/mail/mark. This is not my understanding. Fetchmail is the program that translates between your university address and your local address. You configure this in your .fetchmailrc. There is no black box. Fetchmail communicates directly with exim thru port 25 using the SMTP protocol. Exim sees the mail as coming to your local machine address/username. Exim will periodically (or immediately, if configured so) move your mail from the input spool to your /var/spool/mail/mark directory. 4. I then run a program such as pine which sees there is email in /var/spool/mail/mark and enables me to read it. I have received my email. True. Although exim can be configured to further process the email and sort it into mailboxes based on criteria you give, rather than just dumping it into /var/spool/mail/mark. 5. I then decide to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I compose an email in pine which puts the message in the black box talked about above. Exim again somehow notices it and stores it in /var/spool/exim/input. It sees that banana.com is not a local domain. It decides to forward the email to some smarthost configured in exim.conf. What mechanism/protocol does it use to do this? What should the smarthost be? Should it be my home machine (I think not??). Should it be the mail server at uni? Anyway, somehow it passes the email on to some machine that somehow knows what it is doing and delivers the email. As above, pine will communicate directly with port 25 or your local machine and talk to exim. Exim sees that the mail is not from the local network, so it forwards it to the smarthost, which is your uni server. Exim talks to the uni server thru the same SMTP port 25. 6. I then send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] who might be a friend at uni. Again exim gets this email, but sees that the domain is ist.flinders.edu.au. I have configured this as a local domain so exim trys to deliver this to a local user. But fred is not a local user on my home machine. He is a user at uni. I want this email forwarded on to the machine at uni. How is this done? Exim knows that ist.flinders.edu.au is not local, so it sends it to the smarthost, which is the uni server. The uni server knows to give it to fred at that domain. What you may be configuring exim to do is to pretend to be a member of ist.flinders.edu.au in the headers of the email to prevent other servers from rejecting your email for lack of a proper domain. This will not confuse the uni server (at the same domain) becuase it _should_ be configured to accept mail from it's own domain. Well, I think this sums up the state of my knowledge or lack of knowledge. I would appreciate any clarifying comments/explanations/hints etc. I would appreciate any clarifications of my understanding of it also. -Mitch
Re: KDE: krdb missing! Help!
If it helps, I install kdebase out of slink last weekend. Couldn't find krdb either. I also used the locate command after doing updatedb. Nothing. David Natkins email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shutdown -r instead of reboot? (was Re: ack! I've hosed init
On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 00:33:53 +0100, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Besides, it is good practice to use shutdown -r now instead of reboot. Or just press ctrlaltdel, because then init just calls the command shutdown -r now for you. Could you please explain why? Thanks. -- Ralf G. R. Bergs * Welkenrather Str. 100/102 * 52074 Aachen * Germany +49-241-876892, +49-241-86 (fax) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * PGP ok!
Re: What's the story on Xemacs+GPM?
On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 09:08:50PM +0100, Daniel Elenius wrote: I'm aware that Xemacs has problems with GPM (if you put Xemacs to sleep while GPM is running, things turn ugly). But is it possible to use GPM to paste text into Xemacs from a different VC? And the other way around? I certainly can't! Is it a configuration thing? I run a roll-your-own XEmacs 20.4 that I compiled withOUT gpm support. I do have gpm running. Also, I don't have any trouble with highlighting some text (from the shell, from another virtual terminal, from anywhere), and can paste with the middle mouse button. Good luck! Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They're always havin' a good time down on the bayou, Lord, them delta women think the world of me. -- Dickey Betts, Ramblin' Man
Re: exim rewriting rules
On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 12:53:41AM +0100, Daniel Elenius wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fr Uhm, who not do that in the MUA? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgpB32LWzy10V.pgp Description: PGP signature
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First attempt
#1. Ok I'm not getting very far. First of all I want to make sure I am using the right disk. I have Debian 2.0 official, both the Binary and Source disks say the same thing when I boot them up and try to install from cdrom. Can you use either, or? I went through the steps and everything seemed to go ok until I tried to partion the drive. I followed the instructions in the book. I select [New] and [Primary] then I can't change the size of the partion, it lets me make a 6149.89 MB partion but then can't go on to make a swap partion. The 6149.89 MB is my whole HD so maybe that is why I can't make another. At any rate I noticed the numbers lock isn't on and the numbers just don't work. I entered [US] when choosing a keyboard. #2. While I'm at it. I have a blank 6.4 gigabyte 2nd IDE HD that I am trying to install Debian on. Most of the literature I have read talks about partioning in limited space. I was thinking I could make the 1st partion (root) 1000 MB and the swap 100 MB, I have 64 MB Ram. Does this sound reasonable? Will that make the rest of the HD dead space? Thanks, Kent
First Attempt..?
Well I am not sure if I really know what I am talking about, and this may be stupid, but: 1) you can't change the size? Just delete the numbers it gives you and enter '###MB' or whatever size you want to make the partition. 2) you generally want to have a smaller (50-100MB) root partition and a larger /usr partition as a bare minimum, and if you have the space to create individual partitions for /var and /home , you should do it. With 6.4 GB you have enough space. I am not sure about the intelligence of using a 1000MB root partition only. Just my 50 pesos, correct or not... --Anders
Re: refused connect from 'unknown'
PC == Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PC I've checked, and there's no option. I've installed icmplogd and PC tcplogd which log all connection attemps to my machine. The log You should also install courtney. It did recognise a portscan of my server some time ago. Ciao, Martin
Riva TNT support (was: Re: X v3.3.3)
On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 10:31:32PM +1100, Chris Leishman wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 11:44:56PM -0700, John Lapeyre wrote: It would be nice to have the driver for the new Diamond AGP card ! I wonder if that could be added as another package for the version of X in slink... Well, I actually want it because it supports my new AGP Riva TNT :) If you don't mind using a binary-only version, follow these instructions: Go to www.d128.com and follow the link to Riva X-Servers. Download the glibc version. Install the xserver-svga package, and configure it for Riva 128. As root, run the command 'dpkg-divert /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA'. Finally, gunzip the XF86_SVGA.gz file you downloaded and copy it to /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA. Voila! Support for Riva TNT. Adam
Re: exim rewriting rules
SL == Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SL [1 text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)] SL On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 12:53:41AM +0100, Daniel Elenius wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fr SL Uhm, who not do that in the MUA? Because you don't always use a MUA when you send mails. Take the bug package for example, which will help in sending a bug report. Without such a rewrite, it will send the bug, using a bogus from-address, and the maintainer can't contact the submitter for further info. This is why I also rewrite the from header with smail. Ciao, Martin
Cannot access Web Page from behind firewall
The Web Page I am trying access is www.columbiahouse.com. I try to access it from either Netscape or Lynx but both get hung up on waiting for the host to reply. This is on my machine inside my firewall. My set up is a two machine network. One is my gateway with a masquarading firewall with the following rules: ipfwadm -F -p deny ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0 -D 0.0.0.0/0 I can get to the web site from the gateway using Lynx (can't test Netscapr. No X.), but it cannot complete a traceroute request to the site. Seems strange to me. What I get when I type traceroute www.columbiahouse.com on the firewall machine: traceroute to www.columbiahouse.com (206.25.182.132), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 server11.local.general.dialup.unt.edu (129.120.50.11) 146.731 ms 135.095 ms 139.239 ms 2 129.120.50.250 (129.120.50.250) 139.01 ms 136.072 ms 139.295 ms 3 utd-t1-s5-6.texan.state.tx.us (141.198.234.129) 168.984 ms 156.251 ms 149.173 ms 4 shb3-h1-0.capnet.state.tx.us (141.198.14.1) 178.957 ms 165.989 ms 159.252 ms 5 inet-gw.capnet.state.tx.us (141.198.1.1) 158.974 ms 166.212 ms 169.248 ms 6 12.127.180.161 (12.127.180.161) 242.778 ms 205.951 ms 189.294 ms 7 br1-a350s3.distx.ip.att.net (12.127.2.22) 169.041 ms 185.775 ms 159.35 ms 8 br2-h11.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.127.15.229) 248.99 ms 236.03 ms 209.274 ms 9 gr1-a3100s1.n54ny.ip.att.net (192.205.31.245) 239.039 ms 195.632 ms 289.295 ms 10 nr1-h11.napny.ip.att.net (192.205.31.218) 228.992 ms 195.716 ms 209.269 ms 11 2-sprint-nap.internetmci.net (192.157.69.48) 249.062 ms 235.758 ms 259.242 ms 12 core5-hssi0-0-0.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.10.229) 229.058 ms 255.061 ms 229.334 ms 13 bordercore2.WestOrange.cw.net (166.48.6.1) 238.954 ms 215.798 ms 229.326 ms 14 columbia-house.WestOrange.cw.net (166.48.238.6) 258.933 ms 226.294 ms 219.256 ms 15 * * * Now I have just tried upping my kernel to 2.0.36 to find out it still uses PPP v2.2.0. But the new kernel does not fix the problem. I have also tried opening the firewall (default policy of accept.) Again, to no avail. Any other suggestions? Thanx in advance. -- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stupid Telnet question.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen this before, but don't remember what I did to make it work. Have a remote user wanting access to a Linux system. That user used to just telnet hostname with no problem. Now they are getting: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: telnet 205.242.10.73 Trying 205.242.10.73... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host But I can do a ping and a traceroute from fuller to the Linux host. At this point I've spent so much time on it I'm getting frustrated... What's the short answer for where this is not working? Well, I'm not sure of the short answer but you can try pinging with larger packets sizes to see if it is the network itself. (man ping and look for the -s flag) I recall that improperly configured ATM networks can have problems with packet de/fragmentation, where small (ATM and ping size) packets get through but larger (TCP/IP size) packets don't. HTH, ksb
Re: First attempt
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: followed the instructions in the book. I select [New] and [Primary] then I can't change the size of the partion, it lets me make a 6149.89 MB partion but then can't go on to make a swap partion. The 6149.89 MB is my whole HD so maybe that is why I can't make another. At any rate I Anyway, you can choose [Delete] and delete your current partition, so you have extra space. Just make sure you don't Delete any files on HD that you might need later. #2. While I'm at it. I have a blank 6.4 gigabyte 2nd IDE HD that I am trying to install Debian on. Most of the literature I have read talks about partioning in limited space. I was thinking I could make the 1st partion (root) 1000 MB and the swap 100 MB, I have 64 MB Ram. Does this sound reasonable? Will that make the rest of the HD dead space? Thanks, Kent No. What HOWTOs talk about is having the boot sector within first 504Mb of the drive. That has nothing to do with you. What you want to do is make 200Mb / (root) partition. 64Mb Swap Allocate the rest as you wish. You can make it /usr For the reason of that vast majority of packages gets installed into /usr partition. So make it as big as you want. HTH, Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
Re: Linking Machines
Sean P. Mason wrote: I was wondering. . . I have a bunch of old machines, and I was wondering if it was possible to link them all together to act as a single machine under Linux. I can't seem to find any information elsewhere thus far. I have six 386 Sx-16s with a meg of RAM and 40 megs of space each, and one machine around a 486 Dx with 8 megs ram and 200 megs of a hard drive. GNU/Linux wont really make several machines act as one. Most of the clustering capabilities come from the software, which is able to divide it's work up and distribute it over several machines. This is specialized (mostly scientific) software that is not going to speed up your (for instance) web browsing. What you can do is run one program on machine A and another on machine B (showing them both on the same terminal) and get the benefits of multitasking without having one machine take the load of both programs. But I'm not sure how effective this will be on those 386's. The memory is a little low. However, if all these machines have network cards, you have the perfect platform to learn about networking. Set it up as 2 or 3 subnets and have one of your machines route between them. I guess it all depends... what do you want to do? -Mitch
Re: Just My 2 Cents
On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 12:45:07AM +1100, Richard Lyon wrote:
I guess the 'real' truth is that most of the microsoft stuff is actually
quite good. With the latest versions of service paks installed things
are very slick on windows NT.
quite good... mmmh. Certainly not for my needs, but my needs may be very
unusable. Microsofts design goal is to hide as much as possible. But this
also means that I loose control over what happens.
For example file sharing. The SMB protocol makes the clients broadcast to
find a server in the network. This is highly annoying, but removes one
configuration option from the client machine.
I prefer control over convenience.
I have debian and winnt-workstation running on two machines on my desk.
Sure at first glance it appears that linux is faster, but look at all
the services running on NT and what they do for me.
Do you have a list? I know only Win95 machines, and they don't even have a
telnet daemon running. Sure, it would be useless anyway ('cause DOS is
crap), but... My Linux machine has telnet, ftp, http, xdm and a dozen of
other daemons and services running without me noticing. Most time they are
sleeping anyway, so they don't slow down the machine.
Maybe I don't know what services you mean.
If I install new
hardware on my winnt box at least I don't have to compile and link a
new kernel.
Well, this is indeed a good point. But often when I install new hardware in a
windows machine, I have to reinstall Windows because all the drivers mess up
with the system. Modules make it quite easy to provide a similar
functionality under Linux. The Hurd will offer more functionality in this
area (as a Microkernel), and I hope pre-compiled drivers will be possible
(also a better hardware detection would be nice, but remember that we are
fighting against closed hardware protocols and specification).
Another interesting comparision is application installation.
I wonder how many people really prefer to use dselect to the microsoft
way of doing things.
Install Shield is just crap compared to dpkg. If you compare dselect with
Install Shield, you are comparing apples with oranges. It is true that
dselect is old fashioned, but apt, the new front end, will be better.
dselect is really only a front end to dpkg. Dpkg does handle the package
installation, upgrade and removal. Dpkg does keep track of dependencies
automatically, and does not ask, if you want to overwrite a shared library,
just because one is newer than the other (Do you want to overwrite
XXX.DLL? is a question where you _can't_ know the answer. This is _very_
user unfriendly, and it is common in the Windows world).
Actually dpkg does keep track of every single file in the system. Which is
far better than everything I've seen under Windows.
Both systems to be very stable and reliable.
I don't have much experiences about Windows NT. But I use WinNT + MSIE in
university sometimes. WinNT installation there does not allow anything but
using MSIE (it's a internet workplace). But still it is crashing or hanging
quite often.
Perhaps a more interesting question is; how many unix applications would
windows users like to run on their machines?
If you ask me, many. Still, I think this is the wrong question. Most
standard Unix commands and applications could not unfold their whole power
on a Windows machine (because of limitations in the file system and the
operating system design as a whole). For example, there are powerful text
processing tools under Unix, but most files under Windows are in a
proprietary binary format (word .doc uments for example). The text tools
would be almost useful on a windows machine (for example grep).
Maybe the real benefit of linux is that it encourages people not to have
one dimensional thinking and consider alternatives.
This is the problem of Windows users. They think computers have to crash
once in a while. And you have to reboot after changing the network protocol
or the IP address.
Marcus
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wmmail problems
Is anyone else using wmmail with WindowMaker under slink? I'm having problems getting the NewMailExecute configuration option to function properly. In my ~/.wmmailrc file I have the following line: NewMailExecute cat /home/glhenni/lib/sounds/ugotmail.au /dev/audio This is straight out of the wmmail man page, but it's not functioning. If I start wmmail on the command line it starts spewing out what, at least at the beginning, is the sound file itself to the screen. I can use ps ax to see that the command cat file /dev/audio is running, but it's outputting to the screen instead of /dev/audio. I managed to get it working with xanim via: NewMailExecute xanim +Ze +Av100 /home/glhenni/lib/sounds/ugotmail.au but I don't like xanim popping up on my screen every time I get new mail. TIA, Gary
Re: Suspend in XEmacs 20.4
On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 12:31:47PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is an ancient known bug(#20232,#20398,#23686,#22051,#20356) between xemacs and gpm. The problem has to do with xemacs support of gpm. You need to kill gpm before using xemacs on the console. Alternatively, you can recompile xemacs without gpm support, which I found particularly appealing, because you can get rid of some of the extra crud that comes with xemacs which you'll probably never need. Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They're always havin' a good time down on the bayou, Lord, them delta women think the world of me. -- Dickey Betts, Ramblin' Man
[exim/fetchmail] A day in the life of an email
I am looking at setting up mail properly on my machine. I have an email account at university and use ppp to gain dial-up access to uni. I wish to set things up so that I can receive and send email from my local machine (rather than rlogin to a uni machine to read email as I do at the moment.) Please excuse my ignorance, but I am a bit unsure about what I must do and about exactly what happens with email. Here is my current understanding of what the story is: 1. Email arrives at the mail server at uni with the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] and is stored in a spool directory there. 2. I contact the mail server using fetchmail, asking it very nicely to remove the email from my spool directory there, and send it to my machine at home. Fetchmail does this with the POP protocol. 3. Fetchmail feeds this email into some black box (I don't understand this bit - is it a file or is it a program that is sitting around waiting for such events???). Exim somehow notices that there is email coming into this black box and stores this in /var/spool/exim/input. Exim then looks and sees that the domain of the message is ist.flinders.edu.au. Fortunately this domain has been configured as the local domain in exim.conf so exim knows to distribute these messages to local users. It then sees the user is mark and so knows to distribute this to mark on the local machine. It moves the email from /var/spool/exim/input to /var/spool/mail/mark. 4. I then run a program such as pine which sees there is email in /var/spool/mail/mark and enables me to read it. I have received my email. 5. I then decide to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I compose an email in pine which puts the message in the black box talked about above. Exim again somehow notices it and stores it in /var/spool/exim/input. It sees that banana.com is not a local domain. It decides to forward the email to some smarthost configured in exim.conf. What mechanism/protocol does it use to do this? What should the smarthost be? Should it be my home machine (I think not??). Should it be the mail server at uni? Anyway, somehow it passes the email on to some machine that somehow knows what it is doing and delivers the email. 6. I then send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] who might be a friend at uni. Again exim gets this email, but sees that the domain is ist.flinders.edu.au. I have configured this as a local domain so exim trys to deliver this to a local user. But fred is not a local user on my home machine. He is a user at uni. I want this email forwarded on to the machine at uni. How is this done? Well, I think this sums up the state of my knowledge or lack of knowledge. I would appreciate any clarifying comments/explanations/hints etc. Thanks, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
FYI Re: ICQ and Other Apps over IP Masquerading
FYI http://dijon.nais.com/~nevo/masq/ The site above lists all the applications that have proven to work with ipmasq. Details have been gaven on how to make these apps work. ICQ is in Chat Program section. It seems that ipautofw is heavily used. What a sweet thing! I used to spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to make voxphone work. If I've ever found this site earlier, I'd have saved a lot of time for myself. Enjoy! -- Guoqiang Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linking Machines
GNU/Linux wont really make several machines act as one. Most of the clustering capabilities come from the software, which is able to divide it's work up and distribute it over several machines. This is specialized (mostly scientific) software that is not going to speed up your (for instance) web browsing. If I were to take this option, what benefits would I notice? For example, would I be able to run a single program off of all the machines simultaneously, thus increasing its speed? Or would the best I could do be to run separate programs on separate machines? What you can do is run one program on machine A and another on machine B (showing them both on the same terminal) and get the benefits of multitasking without having one machine take the load of both programs. But I'm not sure how effective this will be on those 386's. The memory is a little low. Unfortunately, the memory is a bit low. The best machine of the bunch will be somewhat decent, however. Anyway, this option sounds interesting. To do this, would I have to specify which machine to run each program on every time I run a program? That could get a little tedious. Thanks! --- Sean Mason
First attempt
I deleted the partion but my problem is I can't make more than that one partion. When I try to change the FS Type I can't do that either. I may be wrong but it seems my keyboard is screwed up. For example when I try to make the first primary partion and it has a space to change the number of MB for that partion (the cursor is under the 6 of 6149.89) and I press 5 I am kicked out to a menu about Changing the geometry, If I press the number 6 I end up at [logical] and so on. My numbers lock light is not on when I am trying to load Debian. Any ideas? Thanks, Kent Andrew Ivanov wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: followed the instructions in the book. I select [New] and [Primary] then I can't change the size of the partion, it lets me make a 6149.89 MB partion but then can't go on to make a swap partion. The 6149.89 MB is my whole HD so maybe that is why I can't make another. At any rate I Anyway, you can choose [Delete] and delete your current partition, so you have extra space. Just make sure you don't Delete any files on HD that you might need later. #2. While I'm at it. I have a blank 6.4 gigabyte 2nd IDE HD that I am trying to install Debian on. Most of the literature I have read talks about partioning in limited space. I was thinking I could make the 1st partion (root) 1000 MB and the swap 100 MB, I have 64 MB Ram. Does this sound reasonable? Will that make the rest of the HD dead space? Thanks, Kent No. What HOWTOs talk about is having the boot sector within first 504Mb of the drive. That has nothing to do with you. What you want to do is make 200Mb / (root) partition. 64Mb Swap Allocate the rest as you wish. You can make it /usr For the reason of that vast majority of packages gets installed into /usr partition. So make it as big as you want. HTH, Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Linking Machines
Sean P. Mason wrote: GNU/Linux wont really make several machines act as one. Most of the clustering capabilities come from the software, which is able to divide it's work up and distribute it over several machines. This is specialized (mostly scientific) software that is not going to speed up your (for instance) web browsing. If I were to take this option, what benefits would I notice? For example, would I be able to run a single program off of all the machines simultaneously, thus increasing its speed? Or would the best I could do be to run separate programs on separate machines? Separate programs on seperate machines. Unless you get (or write) a specialized program meant to be able to run distributed. What you can do is run one program on machine A and another on machine B (showing them both on the same terminal) and get the benefits of multitasking without having one machine take the load of both programs. But I'm not sure how effective this will be on those 386's. The memory is a little low. Unfortunately, the memory is a bit low. The best machine of the bunch will be somewhat decent, however. Anyway, this option sounds interesting. To do this, would I have to specify which machine to run each program on every time I run a program? That could get a little tedious. You could always automate (via scripts) which programs run on which machine. But I honestly don't see you getting any productivity benefits from this setup (as opposed to running everything on the 486). The money you would spend on network cards could be better off spent with more memory, etc. It could be a learning experience with networking, tho...
Re: A few questions
On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 09:51:01PM -0400, Jeff Browning wrote: Now that I got X up and running, I got a few questions. 1. How do I change the color setting from 256 colors to True Color? Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config appropriately, e.g.: Section Screen Driver Accel Device ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monitor Sony 200sf BlankTime 0 DefaultColorDepth 32 SubSection Display Depth8 Modes1376x1032 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 512x384 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth16 Modes1376x1032 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 512x384 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth32 Modes1376x1032 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 512x384 EndSubSection EndSection Note the line DefaultColorDepth. Alternatively: startx -- -bpp 32 xdm users may want to edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 Note that if you edit the XF86Config per the recommendation above, you don't need to mess with adding parameters to startx or the xdm/Xservers file. 4. If I'm idle for about 10 minutes, my screen turns black, how do I turn that off or start a screen saver? I forget how this handled on the VC, there's some parameter in the kernel terminal driver you can manipulate with setterm or something. In X, xset manages this and a few other hardware-related issues. man xset for more info. -- G. Branden Robinson | Optimists believe we live in the best of Debian GNU/Linux | all possible worlds. Pessimists are [EMAIL PROTECTED] | afraid the optimists are right. cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpSYc78m4Pje.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linking Machines
Are there any well known programs out there that will let me run processes distributed, or will I have to do a whole load of digging? =) I think I might just try that out, if I can manage to find the right software for it. --- Sean Mason
Re: Frame Buffer
On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 04:06:47PM -0600, Jeff Beley wrote: Whew, please set your wrapmargin/textwidth/whatever. 80-character lines are the norm. I've just upgraded to 2.1.130 and am expirementing the frame buffer that's built into the kernel. I've been able to use the fbset utility to set the resolution and suchhowever X is very fuzzy(for lack of a better term)...I read in the documentation that there is a fbdev server for X, however I have not been able to locate that X server. I have an ATI Mach64 card recognized at bootup. The fbdev server for i386 is new in XFree86 3.3.3, which I haven't gotten Debianized yet. It would be dishonest of me to try and give you an ETA on 3.3.3 .debs at this time, but the sooner I get the problems ironed out of 3.3.2.3a for the slink release, the sooner I can get 3.3.3 packages made. -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux |// // // / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |EI 'AANIIGOO 'AHOOT'E cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgp5j3KvduxH4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linking Machines
Sean P. Mason wrote: Are there any well known programs out there that will let me run processes distributed, or will I have to do a whole load of digging? =) If you want to run programs on separate machines and display them on just one, then telnet and X work just fine. But if you want the same program to run on several machines at once, you won't find any for everyday activites (mail, news, web, editing, etc). If you want to write your own, there is a neat framework called DIPC that allows inter-process communication across machines, using the familiar IPC mechanism. You can find this and others at http://sal.kachinatech.com -Mitch
Re: SQUAKE SVGALIB problems
Alexander N. Benner wrote: hi Ship's Log, Lt. Michael Beattie, Stardate 071298.1206: A `chmod +s /usr/games/squake.real` will fix it. you should also consider running suidregister from the package suidmanager as squacke is worth being updated frequently and you want to keep the +s Strange, SVGALIB also locked my system. Sound and video worked for a few moments and then at a random ,short time, after it started my machine would just lock Is there some problem with [s,x]quake and the S3 chipset? I'm running 2.0.34. Panz
Re: wmmail problems
I don't use wmmail, but you might tyr using wmss (sound server) and nmaker (noise maker) to make the sounds ... I use that in other simple applications when I don't want a lot of overhead. Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Is anyone else using wmmail with WindowMaker under slink? I'm having problems getting the NewMailExecute configuration option to function properly. In my ~/.wmmailrc file I have the following line: NewMailExecute cat /home/glhenni/lib/sounds/ugotmail.au /dev/audio This is straight out of the wmmail man page, but it's not functioning. If I start wmmail on the command line it starts spewing out what, at least at the beginning, is the sound file itself to the screen. I can use ps ax to see that the command cat file /dev/audio is running, but it's outputting to the screen instead of /dev/audio. I managed to get it working with xanim via: NewMailExecute xanim +Ze +Av100 /home/glhenni/lib/sounds/ugotmail.au but I don't like xanim popping up on my screen every time I get new mail. TIA, Gary -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: Linking Machines
I though that beowulf project, clustering PCs, and most of the effort was about such a process management. http://cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov/beowulf/ Daegyu On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 10:40:38PM -0500, Mitch Blevins wrote: Sean P. Mason wrote: Are there any well known programs out there that will let me run processes distributed, or will I have to do a whole load of digging? =) If you want to run programs on separate machines and display them on just one, then telnet and X work just fine. But if you want the same program to run on several machines at once, you won't find any for everyday activites (mail, news, web, editing, etc). If you want to write your own, there is a neat framework called DIPC that allows inter-process communication across machines, using the familiar IPC mechanism. You can find this and others at http://sal.kachinatech.com -Mitch -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
bizzare mutt behavior
Whenever I go to compose a message in mutt, I have a problem with the d key when mutt prompts me for the to: field. I have to press d twice for mutt to accept a d in the to: field. My d key is working fine in all other situations. Also strange: I tried to copy and paste with the mouse, and again, mutt will not accept any d with the mouse method, i.e. I have to add them by hand. Very annoying! Is this a known bug? My mutt version is: Mutt 0.94.17i (1998-11-19) Thanks, Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They're always havin' a good time down on the bayou, Lord, them delta women think the world of me. -- Dickey Betts, Ramblin' Man
Re: First attempt
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: #1. Ok I'm not getting very far. First of all I want to make sure I am using the right disk. I have Debian 2.0 official, both the Binary and Source disks say the same thing when I boot them up and try to install from cdrom. Can you use either, or? I'm fairly new myself, so don't take my responses as gospel. I'm not sure if you can use the Source CD for an initial install; I think you want to use the Binary. I went through the steps and everything seemed to go ok until I tried to partion the drive. I followed the instructions in the book. I select [New] and [Primary] then I can't change the size of the partion, it lets me make a 6149.89 MB partion but then can't go on to make a swap partion. The 6149.89 MB is my whole HD so maybe that is why I can't make another. At any rate I noticed the numbers lock isn't on and the numbers just don't work. I entered [US] when choosing a keyboard. I haven't yet figured out how to get the numlock to default On (that's low priority for now). You can us the numbers above the qwerty keyboard, or just press the NumLock key to turn on numlock. I don't think I'd use one partition for the system, although the system doesn't really care. It's just that later you might find it more useful if you've modularized the system some. I'd probably allocate 200MB for the root, maybe 300 if you want to be generous. Then maybe 64 or 128MB for the swap (you can't use more than 128MB for a single swap partition, I believe, and I think 64 would be more than adequate). The rest of the drive I'd probably evenly divide into partitions for /usr, /tmp, /var, and /home. Others would probably say this is overkill. If you have [an] existing partition[s], you may need to delete them first to make room for the scheme mentioned above (or whatever scheme you decide on). Be aware that partitioning will clean your drive of any existing data. Then when you create a new partition, don't let it use the entire space. One of the questions that cfdisk (or fdisk) asks is how big you want the partition (it automatically puts in 6149.89M for you, assuming it should use all the available space. Erase this and type in the size you want (such as 200M). I believe you can specify the size in megabytes by typing a number followed by M, but I'm not sure of the exact syntax. I think the on-screen hints will indicate how to do that. Once you've got the partitions created, you'll need to choose the Write option to actually write the changes to disk. #2. While I'm at it. I have a blank 6.4 gigabyte 2nd IDE HD that I am trying to install Debian on. Most of the literature I have read talks about partioning in limited space. I was thinking I could make the 1st partion (root) 1000 MB and the swap 100 MB, I have 64 MB Ram. Does this sound reasonable? Will that make the rest of the HD dead space? Thanks, Kent I'm not sure what you're referring to, but again, a root partition of 1000MB seems awfully large. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought
Re: Linking Machines
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Mitch Blevins wrote: Sean P. Mason wrote: I was wondering. . . I have a bunch of old machines, and I was wondering if it was possible to link them all together to act as a single machine under Linux. I can't seem to find any information elsewhere thus far. I have six 386 Sx-16s with a meg of RAM and 40 megs of space each, and one machine around a 486 Dx with 8 megs ram and 200 megs of a hard drive. GNU/Linux wont really make several machines act as one. Most of the clustering capabilities come from the software, which is able to divide it's work up and distribute it over several machines. This is specialized (mostly scientific) software that is not going to speed up your (for instance) web browsing. What you can do is run one program on machine A and another on machine B (showing them both on the same terminal) and get the benefits of multitasking without having one machine take the load of both programs. But I'm not sure how effective this will be on those 386's. The memory is a little low. However, if all these machines have network cards, you have the perfect platform to learn about networking. Set it up as 2 or 3 subnets and have one of your machines route between them. I guess it all depends... what do you want to do? ^^ today? Oh, sorry. Wrong thread :-) -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought
Re: First attempt
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: I deleted the partion but my problem is I can't make more than that one partion. When I try to change the FS Type I can't do that either. I may be wrong but it seems my keyboard is screwed up. For example when I try to make the first primary partion and it has a space to change the number of MB for that partion (the cursor is under the 6 of 6149.89) and I press 5 I am kicked out to a menu about Changing the geometry, If I press the number 6 I end up at [logical] and so on. My numbers lock light is not on when I am trying to load Debian. Any ideas? Thanks, Kent Is this on a laptop, or a programmable keyboard, or a Microsoft keyboard, or something similar? Does your Numlock key not turn on numlock? Can you use the numbers above the QWERTY keys? Definitely don't use the numeric number pad if you Numlock light is not lit; no telling what kind of weird behaviour you'll get. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought
Re: Still clueless
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Paul Baloo Johnson wrote: Ok, if someone would kindly write up a step by step procedure for configuring a Intel EtherExpress in newbie terms and make it as simply worded as possible, it would help very much on my project at school right now...(I can't figure out how to configure the thing...and no, this wouldn't be cheating, we can ask for outside support) Baloo Is this on a new install, or are you adding the card to an existing system? Hamm, Slink, Bo, what? Reply not to me, but to the list; I'm only knowledgeable enough to ask a few pertinent questions, not enough to actually provide many answers, but maybe someone else on the list is. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought
Re: ipchains/ip_masq problems
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 11:10:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas on what I have not done properly? Trying to do it yourself... ;) ipmasq - Initializes IP Masquerade firewalling/forwarding This package contains scripts to initialize IP Masquerade, a feature of Linux that allows an entire network of computers to be connected to another network (usually the Internet) with only one network address on the other network. IP Masquerade is often referred to as NAT (Network Address Translation) on other platforms. The package by default configures the system for a basic forwarding firewall, with IP spoofing and stuffed routing protection. However, ipmasq now features a very flexible framework whereby you can override any of the predefined rules if you so choose. It also allows you to control if the rules are reinterpreted when pppd brings a link up or down. IP Masquerade requires the kernel to be compiled with CONFIG_FIREWALL, CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL, CONFIG_IP_FORWARD, and CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! I'm trying to get ICQ on win98 out through a Linux firewall with not much luck so far. It sometimes works, usually mostly fails when the other end is also behind a firewall. I've got the above (CONFIG_*) configged in, have ipmasq installed with the following in rc.boot/ipmasq: ipfwadm -F -p deny ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 (192.168.1.2 is the win98 box and 192.168.1.1 the firewall) This is supposed to make ICQ happy but it fails with setsockopt: Protocol not available: /usr/sbin/ipautofw -A -r tcp 2000 4000 -c udp 4000 -u It looks like you (Steve) have ICQ working OK. Whatsa trick? Rick --
lilo problem - linux on each of two drives
Can lilo boot either of two linux installations , one on hda and the other on hdb? If this is possible I would appreciate any guidance. Thanks, Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486 32.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: eth0: unknown interface
How does one have a compiled AND module driver? Where can I look to find out what other modules are being loaded? -Original Message- From: John Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rino Mardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debby Ian debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 7:24 PM Subject: Re: eth0: unknown interface One of the easiest ways to configure the network is to use the install program on the Rescue Disk / CDRom. You can mount an already initialised swap and linux partition and then move on to configure the network. This will create all the right files for you (/etc/networks /etc/resolv.conf). If you still have problems it may be due to the drivers, either compiled into the kernel or a module, be careful not to have the 3com driver compiled into the kernel and as a module, I did that once and had the problem as you describe. Rino Mardo wrote: 486/66 with 8 MB RAM, 630 MB hard disk, 3C509B-combo NIC My problem is during initial installation I wasn't able to setup the NIC so now here I am in the # prompt not knowing how to add/configure it. I read thru all the HOWTOs and mini-HOWTOs (relevant ones of course), recompiled the kernel with 3C509 support but still it would give me: eth0: unknown interface as the error message. In SCO UNIX there's this netconfig command to add a NIC and assign protocols and ip address before recompiling the kernel. What's the equivalent command/steps in Linux? TIA. BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Mardo;Rino FN:Rino Mardo ORG:Obaid Humaid Al-Tayer;IT Department TITLE:Network and Systems Administrator NOTE:Certified Lotus Professional, R4 Administrator TEL;WORK;VOICE:+971 4 825000 TEL;WORK;FAX:+971 4 824901 ADR;WORK:;;P.O. Box 2623;Dubai;;;United Arab Emirates LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 2623=0D=0ADubai=0D=0AUnited Arab Emirates URL:http://members.tripod.com/~rinom/ EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19981209T043805Z END:VCARD
Re: Linking Machines
I've taken a look at this Beowulf thing (quite new to me) and it seems a bit. . . cryptic. It doesn't really say anything that will help me out on the page. Does anyone out there use or know a lot about Beowulf? If someone does, please drop me mail so we can chat a bit =) Thanks! --- Sean Mason On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, [iso-8859-1] ±è ´ë ±Ô wrote: I though that beowulf project, clustering PCs, and most of the effort was about such a process management. http://cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov/beowulf/ Daegyu On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 10:40:38PM -0500, Mitch Blevins wrote: Sean P. Mason wrote: Are there any well known programs out there that will let me run processes distributed, or will I have to do a whole load of digging? =) If you want to run programs on separate machines and display them on just one, then telnet and X work just fine. But if you want the same program to run on several machines at once, you won't find any for everyday activites (mail, news, web, editing, etc). If you want to write your own, there is a neat framework called DIPC that allows inter-process communication across machines, using the familiar IPC mechanism. You can find this and others at http://sal.kachinatech.com -Mitch -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: very weird problem with PPP (server+client)
On Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 06:09:52PM +, Pere Camps wrote: Hi! Hello Pere, Hmm, nobody replied so I will make a try. Forgive me if my answer is wrong but I am really tired (3:45 am here :) I used to have a very stable configuration for a PPP connection between two debian machines which suddenly has gone away. I'll explain myself. [detailed description deleted] Any help will be greatly appreciated (even if it's to tell me that my modem is broken! I want to blame this on something!)... and sorry, I have no other modem to try this on. TIA! Sorry if the logs are too long, but maybe the kdebug 1 messages are needed... Okay. Let's take a look: client: [...] Dec 6 18:35:37 ulivatar kernel: ppp_dev_xmit: writing 14 chars Dec 6 18:35:39 ulivatar pppd[407]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x2 user=pere password=CLASSIFIED] Dec 6 18:35:39 ulivatar kernel: ppp_dev_xmit_lower: fcs is 5419 Dec 6 18:35:39 ulivatar kernel: ppp_dev_xmit: writing 24 chars Dec 6 18:35:39 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: called buf=080645c0 nr=1504 Dec 6 18:35:39 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: no data (EAGAIN) Dec 6 18:35:42 ulivatar pppd[407]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x3 user=pere password=CLASSIFIED] Dec 6 18:35:42 ulivatar kernel: ppp_dev_xmit_lower: fcs is 4416 Dec 6 18:35:42 ulivatar kernel: ppp_dev_xmit: writing 24 chars Dec 6 18:35:42 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: called buf=080645c0 nr=1504 Dec 6 18:35:42 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: no data (EAGAIN) Dec 6 18:35:45 ulivatar pppd[407]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x4 user=pere password=CLASSIFIED] [...] This looks REALLY weird! Either your modem is broken or your server does not answer in a reasonable time. Suggestion: Try to connect without ppp using e.g. minicom. Report if this works and try binary file transfers using rz/sz. Dec 6 18:36:06 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: no data (EAGAIN) Dec 6 18:36:07 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: called buf=080645c0 nr=1504 Dec 6 18:36:07 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: no data (EAGAIN) Dec 6 18:36:36 ulivatar pppd[407]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0x8003] Dec 6 18:36:36 ulivatar kernel: ppp_dev_xmit_lower: fcs is 56df Dec 6 18:36:36 ulivatar kernel: ppp_dev_xmit: writing 14 chars Dec 6 18:36:36 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: called buf=080645c0 nr=1504 Dec 6 18:36:36 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: no data (EAGAIN) Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 Success] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 147.83.61.17 compress VJ 0f 01] Hmm, very funny. The kernel says no data and pppd receives a packet? What's that? [...] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x2 ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x3 ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x4 ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x5 ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x6 ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x7 ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x8 ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x9 ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0xa ] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0xd843] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar pppd[407]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0xd843] Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: called buf=080645c0 nr=1504 Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: len = 7 Dec 6 18:36:57 ulivatar kernel: ppp_tty_read: passing 9 bytes up [...] So the serial link seems to work - very slow. and for the server... [...] Dec 6 18:35:22 casal pppd[20334]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=pere password=CLASSIFIED] Dec 6 18:35:22 casal PAM_pwdb[20334]: (ppp) session opened for user pere by (uid=0) Dec 6 18:35:22 casal pppd[20334]: user pere logged in Dec 6 18:35:43 casal last message repeated 6 times Why that? Logged in 6 times? Huh! Dec 6 18:35:45 casal in.smtpd[20337]: connect from 147.83.61.42 Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: sent [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 Success] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 147.83.61.17 compress VJ 0f 01] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x8003] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x2 user=pere password=CLASSIFIED] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: sent [PAP AuthAck id=0x2 ] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x3 user=pere password=CLASSIFIED] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: sent [PAP AuthAck id=0x3 ] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x4 user=pere password=CLASSIFIED] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: sent [PAP AuthAck id=0x4 ] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x5 user=pere password=CLASSIFIED] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal pppd[20334]: sent [PAP AuthAck id=0x5 ] Dec 6 18:36:43 casal
Re: multiple X servers?
On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 10:04:00PM +, Preston Landers wrote: In the other user's home directory, I put an .xserverrc file with only this in it: exec X :1 -bpp 16 but unfortunately, that JUST starts the X server and no clients or window managers. It's not using the system wide xinitrc file, in other words. Are you using startx? This should fire up the window manager and all the stuff. You can even do without the .xserverrc by doing, for example: startx wmaker -- :1 -bpp 16 I am using wmaker as argument to get the windowmanager I want. I do not use -bpp 16 actually because I have it as DefaultColorDepth in /etc/X11/XF86Config. Okay - I do not really use this at all :-) But I tried it and it worked. Perhaps it works for you, too... cu Torsten pgpjzcvAhAQd6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: help please! still unknown interface and SIOCSIFADDR!!!!!
Thanks. Now both my 3c509 and NE2000 are working. The is the command I've been searching for (to add NICs) which eluded me for some time. The HOWTOs should really be rewritten as it is not clearly written specially for someone who has been an NT administrator for years. Now, time to prove to my boss about Linux vs. NT -Original Message- From: wb2oyc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debby Ian debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 5:00 PM Subject: Re: help please! still unknown interface and SIOCSIFADDR! eth0: unknown interface I have setup my NE2000 to be IRQ=5 and IO=0x300. Please help!! Rino, The eth0 message means the kernel did not find the ethernet card during its last boot. You could try the module and see if it will initialize the card. Ie: insmod ne2 300,5 should insert the module in the running kernel. If that doesn't work, I would suspect that some kernel option has not been selected (when you rebuilt it). If you still have the original kernel around, boot it and see what gives. All kernels since 2.0.0 will find an NE2000 clone; at least those of the well-behaved category. Note that there are many that do not have the proper signature byte, but I've been using LinkSys cards for years, and they've always worked. Besides that, the Linux driver even deals with many of those of the poor clone class as well; usually. Paul -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Mardo;Rino FN:Rino Mardo ORG:Obaid Humaid Al-Tayer;IT Department TITLE:Network and Systems Administrator NOTE:Certified Lotus Professional, R4 Administrator TEL;WORK;VOICE:+971 4 825000 TEL;WORK;FAX:+971 4 824901 ADR;WORK:;;P.O. Box 2623;Dubai;;;United Arab Emirates LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 2623=0D=0ADubai=0D=0AUnited Arab Emirates URL:http://members.tripod.com/~rinom/ EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19981209T045843Z END:VCARD
Re: [exim/fetchmail] A day in the life of an email
Hi Mark, Some answers are given below. I hope they're correct; they're based on my experience in a similar situation (although my machine is behind a firewall). miket On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 11:00:45AM +1030, Mark Phillips wrote: I am looking at setting up mail properly on my machine. I have an email account at university and use ppp to gain dial-up access to uni. I wish to set things up so that I can receive and send email from my local machine (rather than rlogin to a uni machine to read email as I do at the moment.) Please excuse my ignorance, but I am a bit unsure about what I must do and about exactly what happens with email. Here is my current understanding of what the story is: 1. Email arrives at the mail server at uni with the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] and is stored in a spool directory there. 2. I contact the mail server using fetchmail, asking it very nicely to remove the email from my spool directory there, and send it to my machine at home. Fetchmail does this with the POP protocol. 3. Fetchmail feeds this email into some black box (I don't understand this bit - is it a file or is it a program that is sitting around waiting for such events???). Exim somehow notices that there is email coming into this black box and stores this in /var/spool/exim/input. Exim then looks and sees that the domain of the message is ist.flinders.edu.au. Fortunately this domain has been configured as the local domain in exim.conf so exim knows to distribute these messages to local users. It then sees the user is mark and so knows to distribute this to mark on the local machine. It moves the email from /var/spool/exim/input to /var/spool/mail/mark. Fetchmail connects to port 25 on your local machine. Depending on your machine's configuration, either exim is started by inetd in response to this, or exim is running as a daemon and was already listening on that port. 4. I then run a program such as pine which sees there is email in /var/spool/mail/mark and enables me to read it. I have received my email. 5. I then decide to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I compose an email in pine which puts the message in the black box talked about above. Exim again somehow notices it and stores it in /var/spool/exim/input. It sees that banana.com is not a local domain. It decides to forward the email to some smarthost configured in exim.conf. What mechanism/protocol does it use to do this? What should the smarthost be? Should it be my home machine (I think not??). Should it be the mail server at uni? Anyway, somehow it passes the email on to some machine that somehow knows what it is doing and delivers the email. Exim uses SMTP to connect to the smarthost. For the smarthost, you want a machine with certain characteristics (see below). 6. I then send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] who might be a friend at uni. Again exim gets this email, but sees that the domain is ist.flinders.edu.au. I have configured this as a local domain so exim trys to deliver this to a local user. But fred is not a local user on my home machine. He is a user at uni. I want this email forwarded on to the machine at uni. How is this done? You probably don't want to your machine to have the same hostname as your university smarthost. Mail sent via SMTP is sent using an envelope, a list of addresses that is not contained within the message itself (this is what allows Bcc to work). So even though the mail that fetchmail fetches is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] within the message, fetchmail uses something like mark or [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the envelope recipient when it talks to your SMTP server via TCP port 25. You don't really want fetchmail getting too smart about parsing recipients from your message, or you might end up looping the message back to all of its original recipients. Here's the way you probably want your mail to work: 1) Configure exim to treat yourhostname.flinders.edu.au as a local domain. Add whatever other local domains are needed to get fetchmail to work; this may just involve setting local_domains_include_host = true or I believe it will work to set sender_unqualified_hosts = yourhostname.flinders.edu.au 2) Remove ist.flinders.edu.au from the local_domains. This is a distinct host from yours; having your machine accept mail for it complicates the situation and shouldn't be necessary. Presumably the only thing that will ever cause mail to be routed to your machine from the outside world is fetchmail anyway. 3) Set qualify_domain = ist.flinders.edu.au to make your locally generated mail appear to originate from that machine. This is potentially not necessary if ist.flinders.edu.au accepts mail for *.flinders.edu.au and the MX records are set up correctly in the DNS, but I don't think it can hurt. 4) Set ist.flinders.edu.au as your smarthost. Smarthosts should be able to directly
Re: A few questions
On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 09:51:01PM -0400, Jeff Browning wrote: Now that I got X up and running, I got a few questions. 4. If I'm idle for about 10 minutes, my screen turns black, how do I turn that off or start a screen saver? To disable blanking for the text consoles: setterm -blank 0 To disable X server screen blanking: xset s off To get a (great!) screensaver for X, install the xscreensaver package and add the following to your ~/.xsession (for XDM) or equivalent for startx (.xinitrc? not sure what Debian uses): xset s off xscreensaver These lines should precede the one that execs your window manager. My .xsession is: === #!/bin/sh xset s off xscreensaver exec fvwm2 === miket
How to install tcl8.0.4 ?
Hi all, I have Debian 2.0 (hamm) system running and I wanted to install the new tcl8.0.4 package from frozen. It turned out that it depends on libc6 (=2.0.7u-6) -- my libc6 is older. There is libc6 2.0.7u-7 in frozen but it conflicts with libstdc++2.8 (2.90.29-2). And I can't upgrade to the new libstdc++2.8 (2.90.29-2) because it depends on libc6 (=2.0.7u-6). Both these libraries have status 'required', so I am afraid to use dpkg --force, as I don't want to break my system down. Could someone give me a piece of advice please? Thanks in advance. -- Tad
Re: Netscape install
I think you should get the netscape installer. I had a similar problem and the only way to install is to use the netscape installer which can be found in binary-i386. -Original Message- From: Tamas Nyitrai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Netscape install On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, John Greer wrote: I was setting up Netscape last night on my machine, 2.0.34, X- Windows, KDE. I got libc5 installed and then when I tried to install the motifn I got a dependency error stating that I need to install xbase. This is obviously installed. Then when I tried to dpkg the netscape.deb file I got dependency problems with libg++ and xlib6g both of which I have. I ran ldconfig to no avail to. Any clues??? Have you installed the oldlib version of those libraries? Since your Netscape is running with libc5, you have to install the non-glibc version of libg++ and xlib6 as well ... Hope this helps... Regards, Tamas -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Mardo;Rino FN:Rino Mardo ORG:Obaid Humaid Al-Tayer;IT Department TITLE:Network and Systems Administrator NOTE:Certified Lotus Professional, R4 Administrator TEL;WORK;VOICE:+971 4 825000 TEL;WORK;FAX:+971 4 824901 ADR;WORK:;;P.O. Box 2623;Dubai;;;United Arab Emirates LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 2623=0D=0ADubai=0D=0AUnited Arab Emirates URL:http://members.tripod.com/~rinom/ EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19981209T052802Z END:VCARD
Re: dselect-help!!!!!!!
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Patrice Bertrand wrote: I have installed Linux on my laptop and i have now to use 'dselect' to install X and others packages. Problem : i can't find my way and i'm stuck with dselect from the beginning. I've downloaded the file 'Dselect documentation for beginners' from debian.org but it's not very helpful. (e.g. : when I go to select i can't understand anything from the different menus and the differents options. For instance, what's the difference between 'Install from a hard disk partition partion (NOT YET MOUNTED)' and 'Install from a filesystem which is already mounted'. Which one should I pick up since i've just installed Debian from floppies?) Basically, I'm looking for : - a manual which explains carefully and with examples what to do when using dselect. - if this is not available, is it possible to have a few directions about how to install X Windows with dselect, notably the very first steps -something in plain english for idiots or retardos. (What i have now on my lap-top computer is plain Linux. I can't use a CD ROM and can't yet get access to the Internet since I don't know how to setup my PCMCIA card. For now my priority is to install X Windows, the Mouse and have some graphical interface to navigate through Linux). Thanks for your help! I don't know of any good documentation, but I might can give you a couple of pointers. dselect is a front-end to dpkg. dpkg is the real installer/uninstaller. Apt is the next generation front-end to replace dselect, but it's not quite ready for prime-time. You're right; dselect is not easy to use. In case you don't understand it, you can't use dselect to install software unless it's pointed to a repository of that software. Accordingly, you need to use the Access option to tell dselect how to access that software. When you choose to install from a hardrive (not yet mounted), I believe you'll be given the option to mount the hard drive so it can be read by the system. Then that drive has become an already-mounted file system. Unless you've downloaded .deb files (maybe from a Windows partition, etc) to your local harddrive, these two options probably don't apply to you. However, I see that you can't use a CD or the network, so you're kind of up a tree without a paddle (or whatever the idiom is). Without the appropriate .debs, you can't install X-Windows, etc, just like you can't install Doom or Wordperfect on a Windows machine without the appropriate installation software. You really need to get a CD working and use a Debian CD, or better yet, get your network access up. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the list can help you with that. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought
Re: Latex - let me make clear
How about
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\Name: \Shoa Zhang\\
\Address: \Debian, org\\
\Email:\[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\Health: \Excellent\\
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On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Shao Zhang wrote:
Hi all,
Thanks for all the kind answers about tabbing in Latex.
Let me make myself clear, I am trying to do something like this(my
resume):
Name: Shao Zhang
Address:Debian, org
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Health: Excellent
and so on
Ok, so how do I write this in Latex?
Thanks in advance!
Shao.
Shao Zhang \\/
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PENSHURST 2035 //\
Sydney, NSW ///\\
Australia\\\
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Re: Broken package: dselect can't istall or deinstall a package
Hi, For about a 2 weeks I'm unable to install the wmaker package. Dselect tell me that the package is to much broken and that I should deinstall and when I try to deinstall I have the message to reinstall the package. Any idea? Yes. dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq wmaker For help on forcing dpkg to do its job, use dpkg --force-help. --force-remove-reinstreq will successfully remove a package that require reinstallation, but there is a warning that this may seriously damage your installation. I have used this myself and had no problems though. I guess the serious damage possibilities are mostly theoretical, at least when the package concerned isn't important. Helge Hafting
Re: g++2.8, egcs, gcc 2.7.2, etc. - *very confused*
Martin Waller wrote: Read /usr/doc/gcc/README.Debian . I did but was still confused :( It didn't say *why* we have an apparent fork in compiler development. Since the gcc compiler is at the core of Linux (behind only the kernel itself in importance), having a semi-permanent fork in development, ala emacs/xemacs, is the last thing we need. -- Ed C.
Re: Broken package: dselect can't istall or deinstall a package
Mario Bertrand wrote: Hi, For about a 2 weeks I'm unable to install the wmaker package. Dselect tell me that the package is to much broken and that I should deinstall and when I try to deinstall I have the message to reinstall the package. Any idea? It would help if we saw the exact error messages. Have you tried dpkg itself possibly with one or more of the '--force-xxx' options? Try purging the current package with 'dpkg --purge --force-depends [pkgname]', and then immediately installing the new version. -- Ed C.
Re: A few questions
Thomas Crulli wrote: On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 09:51:01PM -0400, Jeff Browning wrote: 3. Where can I get netscape and what are the procedures for installing it? from dpkg description of netscape package: Netscape Communications Corporation does not allow redistribution of [snip] Note: as of slink, this is no longer true. Slink does have the actual Netscape binary, so the old method of using an installer won't be needed with Debian 2.1. -- Ed C.
Re: lilo problem - linux on each of two drives
Yes. Below is a copy of a lilo.conf file. If your machine boots successfully you could ignore the disk sections. I use these because my bios can't see drives bigger than 2.1G and drive hdc is 2.5G. Good Luck, Stephen --- boot=/dev/hda delay=150 disk = /dev/hdc sectors = 63 heads = 16 cylinders = 4970 disk = /dev/hda sectors = 63 heads = 64 cylinders = 527 image=/bzImage root=/dev/hdc2 label=Sound image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc2 label=Debian image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 label=Caldera At 12:41 09/12/98 +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote: Can lilo boot either of two linux installations , one on hda and the other on hdb? If this is possible I would appreciate any guidance. Thanks, Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486 32.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Subject: Re: Linking Machines
I've been looking around the Beowulf sites for several days now. If you follow ALL the links, you will eventually find the useful info. Basically, Beowulf is used to enable several Linux boxes to behave as one super-computer. That's the good news. The bad news is, this is only useful if you are running programmes specially written to run on parallel processors. How the system would behave if you just kept opening several, sequential programmes, I'm not sure if it would automatically farm the different programmes to the different nodes or not. You can, as noted in earlier E-Mails, manually spawn these out yourself, but that is a bit like buying ten copies of the same CD to get a 10% discount. You sound like someone who just wants a plug-and-pray type system, so most of this mould be out of your league. If, on the other hand, you would like to try to programme your own concurrent code to utilise this Beowulf system, the follow the links from Beowulf to the other super-computer sites and you can find a wealth of info on building the system, programming the code and build your own little super-computer. At one site I saw a Beowulf system of 16, '486 PC's networked together that had achieved 1.3 GFOPs! That's 1.3 Billion Floating-point Operations per Second! Quite reasonable from PC's that can be bought for less than £150.00 @. This is just about the limit of my knowledge on the subject, but I am planning to start piecing together my own Beowulf system soon. Cheers, John Gay
Re: Debian installation hangs
On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:48:07 GMT, Mark Weston wrote: Hi, I've been trying my first ever Linux installation from a Debian 2.0 CD, and have run into problems which are beyond me at the moment. I'd be really grateful for some help. The installation (CD or rescue floppy) loads the Linux kernel, and during the long series of hardware detection messages, successfully detects all the IDE devices and then hangs on the line. md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4 MAX_REAL=8 I've tried many times over with both media, and it always hangs in the same place. After this, I tried a RedHat 5.2 CD which installed successfully first time; on this one, the equivalent line was md driver 0.36.3etc So now I have a working RedHat install, but I'd actually set my heart on Debian. What hardware is this md driver supposed to be driving, and how possible is it to get a Debian boot/rescue disk with the later working (on my PC) version of it? BTW, at three days into being a Linux user, I don't yet feel up to the compile-your-own option. I searched the kernel sources and I found this is the multiple devices driver. That handles disk striping (RAID 0), RAID 5, etc. I have never heard of this problem, nor do I have any insight as to what might cause this error. I was taught to disconnect unnecessary devices when things like this happened, reconnect cables and check master/slave settings, but maybe you already did that. I do see they use different driver versions, and if 0.36.3 works, then perhaps you need 0.36.3 for your box. The nature of drivers is to evolve and support more devices, after all. I have kernel 2.0.36 (from slink) installed (on hamm) and md is version 0.36.3. I realize you're probably not up to compiling a kernel at this point, but you'll probably need to get a boot floppy image with the newer kernel, unless you want to wait a few weeks for slink to release. Note that I'm not sure if there are any serious implications regarding changes in the kernel between 2.0.34 and 2.0.36, or any other issues which might make this task more complex than I've thus far presumed. My experience with replacing kernels on bootdisks is nil, but if noone else is willing and you don't mind waiting a day or two, let me know. I'm not a complete moron, I know where the Bootdisk-HOWTO is, I have a fairly new hamm system with a few slink packages, so it should be doable. I wonder if there's a boot-time option to disable md. Anyone? -- David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bizzare mutt behavior
On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 22:12:23 -0600, Matt Garman wrote: Whenever I go to compose a message in mutt, I have a problem with the d key when mutt prompts me for the to: field. You are using a recent mutt with an old muttrc. Current muttrc-s need to have .. around multi-character keynames. So change delete to delete etc. Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: g++2.8, egcs, gcc 2.7.2, etc. - *very confused*
On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 00:13:16 -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote: Read /usr/doc/gcc/README.Debian . It didn't say *why* we have an apparent fork in compiler development. It doesn't contain a full history of the free software movement either, as that's out of scope for that document too. Since the gcc compiler is at the core of Linux (behind only the kernel itself in importance), having a semi-permanent fork in development, ala emacs/xemacs, is the last thing we need. First, forks aren't necessarily bad. Read e.g. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/sane98-talk.ps or ESR's writings. The EGCS project has brought nearly all of gcc's lost children together again. That's progress. Second, de facto there is no fork. The FSF gcc development is dead (or at least smelling /very/ funny), though the FSF doesn't admit it yet. EGCS is alive and well. [As a small example, FSF gcc 2.8.1's C++ handling is more or less the same as EGCS 1.0.x's. Of the C++ bugs reported against Debian's EGCS 1.0.3 g++ package, half were fixed in EGCS 1.1, in a period shorter than a Debian release cycle. 2.8.1 is still the latest FSF gcc.] Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
hacked machine ?
HEllo, just yesterday I was logged to my debian machine from Sun solaris 2.5.1 machine using ssh; when I closed session i saw message like waiting for closing of forwarded X11 sessions from IP I checked netstat on solaris - no connection from that IP; I checked netstat on debian machine and there were few connectrions opened: one to port 6000; one to finger port, one to ident port, one to portmap port and one to poppassd port; I saw also processes cfingerd, identd, portmap, poppassd and X; in X i had xearth, xterm and netscape opened; It seems someone hacked my machine; anyway i disabled all connections from that IP and killed those processes; can anyone tell me where can be the problem ? -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, sysadmin at NETLAB+ Kosice, Slovakia BIC coord for *.sk; admin of netlab.irc.sk; co-admin of irc.felk.cvut.cz
fetchmail daemon mode
Hi all, If I comment out the line set daemon 300 in the file ~/.fetchmailrc. Then my fetchmail works fine... If I run fetchmail with the above line, then id doesn't work. The process just sits there and doing nothing... Do I have to start fetchmail in a special place?? If I put it in ip-up, do I have to use the fetchmailrc in the root directory?? If I use that, how does fetchmail know to put in my user account rather than root?? Thanks in advance.. Shao
Lynx Proxy again
Hi all, I did the following, still not working.. In netscape 4.5 I set my proxy - auto proxy - http://proxy2.hawkesbury.uws.edu.au/proxy.pac, and it worked fine... so in lynx.cfg, I wrote a line: http_proxy = http://proxy2.hawkesbury.uws.edu.au/proxy.pac But it does not work. Lynx returns cannot find the homepage.. I also tried to use the port settings and it didn't help... So what did I do wrong... Shao
Re: First attempt
The binary CD uses the normal resc1440.bin to boot. The source CD uses the boot disk with the tecra patch Depends on what your system needs. I would suggest that one partition is OK if you are having an initial play with Linux. You will probably make several installs before you start to use GNU/Linux seriously. The Debian FAQ (on the binary disk) has good advice on how to partition a HDD. There are probably as many partition schemes as Debian users. On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Kent West wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: #1. Ok I'm not getting very far. First of all I want to make sure I am using the right disk. I have Debian 2.0 official, both the Binary and Source disks say the same thing when I boot them up and try to install from cdrom. Can you use either, or? I'm fairly new myself, so don't take my responses as gospel. I'm not sure if you can use the Source CD for an initial install; I think you want to use the Binary. I went through the steps and everything seemed to go ok until I tried to partion the drive. I followed the instructions in the book. I select [New] and [Primary] then I can't change the size of the partion, it lets me make a 6149.89 MB partion but then can't go on to make a swap partion. The 6149.89 MB is my whole HD so maybe that is why I can't make another. At any rate I noticed the numbers lock isn't on and the numbers just don't work. I entered [US] when choosing a keyboard. I haven't yet figured out how to get the numlock to default On (that's low priority for now). You can us the numbers above the qwerty keyboard, or just press the NumLock key to turn on numlock. I don't think I'd use one partition for the system, although the system doesn't really care. It's just that later you might find it more useful if you've modularized the system some. I'd probably allocate 200MB for the root, maybe 300 if you want to be generous. Then maybe 64 or 128MB for the swap (you can't use more than 128MB for a single swap partition, I believe, and I think 64 would be more than adequate). The rest of the drive I'd probably evenly divide into partitions for /usr, /tmp, /var, and /home. Others would probably say this is overkill. If you have [an] existing partition[s], you may need to delete them first to make room for the scheme mentioned above (or whatever scheme you decide on). Be aware that partitioning will clean your drive of any existing data. Then when you create a new partition, don't let it use the entire space. One of the questions that cfdisk (or fdisk) asks is how big you want the partition (it automatically puts in 6149.89M for you, assuming it should use all the available space. Erase this and type in the size you want (such as 200M). I believe you can specify the size in megabytes by typing a number followed by M, but I'm not sure of the exact syntax. I think the on-screen hints will indicate how to do that. Once you've got the partitions created, you'll need to choose the Write option to actually write the changes to disk. #2. While I'm at it. I have a blank 6.4 gigabyte 2nd IDE HD that I am trying to install Debian on. Most of the literature I have read talks about partioning in limited space. I was thinking I could make the 1st partion (root) 1000 MB and the swap 100 MB, I have 64 MB Ram. Does this sound reasonable? Will that make the rest of the HD dead space? Thanks, Kent I'm not sure what you're referring to, but again, a root partition of 1000MB seems awfully large. Philip Charles; 39a Paterson St., Abbotsford, New Zealand; +64 3 4882818 For Debian GNU/Linux CDs see http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~philipc
Re: First attempt
Hi Kent; I add these lines to the rc file at /etc/init.d = # I add the following for NumLock ON by default INITTY=/dev/tty[1-8] for tty in $INITTY do setleds -D +num $tty done # eof /etc/init.d/rc = Alan Tam Kent West wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: #1. Ok I'm not getting very far. First of all I want to make sure I am using the right disk. I have Debian 2.0 official, both the Binary and Source disks say the same thing when I boot them up and try to install from cdrom. Can you use either, or? I'm fairly new myself, so don't take my responses as gospel. I'm not sure if you can use the Source CD for an initial install; I think you want to use the Binary. I went through the steps and everything seemed to go ok until I tried to partion the drive. I followed the instructions in the book. I select [New] and [Primary] then I can't change the size of the partion, it lets me make a 6149.89 MB partion but then can't go on to make a swap partion. The 6149.89 MB is my whole HD so maybe that is why I can't make another. At any rate I noticed the numbers lock isn't on and the numbers just don't work. I entered [US] when choosing a keyboard. I haven't yet figured out how to get the numlock to default On (that's low priority for now). You can us the numbers above the qwerty keyboard, or just press the NumLock key to turn on numlock. I don't think I'd use one partition for the system, although the system doesn't really care. It's just that later you might find it more useful if you've modularized the system some. I'd probably allocate 200MB for the root, maybe 300 if you want to be generous. Then maybe 64 or 128MB for the swap (you can't use more than 128MB for a single swap partition, I believe, and I think 64 would be more than adequate). The rest of the drive I'd probably evenly divide into partitions for /usr, /tmp, /var, and /home. Others would probably say this is overkill. If you have [an] existing partition[s], you may need to delete them first to make room for the scheme mentioned above (or whatever scheme you decide on). Be aware that partitioning will clean your drive of any existing data. Then when you create a new partition, don't let it use the entire space. One of the questions that cfdisk (or fdisk) asks is how big you want the partition (it automatically puts in 6149.89M for you, assuming it should use all the available space. Erase this and type in the size you want (such as 200M). I believe you can specify the size in megabytes by typing a number followed by M, but I'm not sure of the exact syntax. I think the on-screen hints will indicate how to do that. Once you've got the partitions created, you'll need to choose the Write option to actually write the changes to disk. #2. While I'm at it. I have a blank 6.4 gigabyte 2nd IDE HD that I am trying to install Debian on. Most of the literature I have read talks about partioning in limited space. I was thinking I could make the 1st partion (root) 1000 MB and the swap 100 MB, I have 64 MB Ram. Does this sound reasonable? Will that make the rest of the HD dead space? Thanks, Kent I'm not sure what you're referring to, but again, a root partition of 1000MB seems awfully large. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
emacs xemacs
Hi all, I can use emacs to browse the web now... But xemacs is not working... It says cannot load w3-el/w3. Any ideas?? By the way, can I use emacs to display the image(i.e. like netscape, not lynx)?? Thanks... Shao
Re: wmmail problems
On 8 Dec 1998, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Is anyone else using wmmail with WindowMaker under slink? I'm having problems getting the NewMailExecute configuration option to function properly. In my ~/.wmmailrc file I have the following line: NewMailExecute cat /home/glhenni/lib/sounds/ugotmail.au /dev/audio I already had such problem. I'd used play command instead of cat. NewMailExecute play /home/glhenni/lib/sounds/ugotmail.au I'm not sure if you have to specify the device name !! Best regards, Nuno Carvalho ¨ Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho Dep. Informatics Engineering University of Coimbra PGP key available at finger ¨
Toshiba Satellite - X problem
I'm trying to get X to work on my Toshiba Satellite 4000CDT. I've established that the chipset is CT B69000. This isn't listed in the hamm distribution. Has anyone got X to work on this machine and, if so, could they kindly provide their XF86Config file? Many thanks, Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald
Re: Toshiba Satellite - X problem
Hi, You should use SVGA server, the chip set should be CT 6 HTH, Giuseppe Anthony Campbell wrote: I'm trying to get X to work on my Toshiba Satellite 4000CDT. I've established that the chipset is CT B69000.
Re: finding a package name given a filename
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 03:51:30PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with a lot of packages is that the executable is linked
from a shorter name, and the links are not part of the package but are
created in the postinst scripts. The xemacs example is a really good
one.
/usr/bin/xemacs - /etc/alternatives/xemacs
/etc/alternatives/xemacs - /usr/bin/xemacs20
/usr/bin/xemacs20 - /etc/alternatives/xemacs20
/etc/alternatives/xemacs20 - /usr/bin/xemacs-20.4-nomule (finally!!!)
So doing a 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/xemacs' would not work because
/usr/bin/xemacs is actually not in the xemacs20-nomule package but is
created after the package is extracted.
I was thinking about this, tried to find a utility to chase a symbolic
link to a real file, but failed. I even asked if a local Unix guru
knew one. He didn't.
So I wrote one. Here's a sample session with it:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:25:31]:~$ dpkg -S `chase /usr/bin/xemacs`
xemacs20-nomule: /usr/bin/xemacs-20.4-nomule
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:26:16]:~$
The `chase' here is my small utility. Basically it takes a file name
and finds the name of the real file it refers to, recursively
dereferencing all the symlinks it encounters.
The source tarball (with a copy of GNU GPL and all the Autoconf bells
and whistles) is currently 28kB. If anyone is interested, I might
upload it somewhere (probably metalab aka sunsite), or even generate a
.deb of it (though I can't upload it to Debian yet, as I'm still
waiting for my developer status application to be fully processed).
Here is a short perl program that seems to do the same thing. Note that
it doesn't have much error checking.
- script start (whatever you want to call it) ---
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# follow down symbolic links
if ($#ARGV == -1) {
print usage: $0 symbolic link\n;
exit 1;
}
for ($f = $ARGV[0]; -l $f; $f = readlink($f)) { }
print destination doesn't exist: if ! -e $f;
print $f\n;
--- script end
--
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Re: Toshiba Satellite - X problem
On 09 Dec 1998q, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: Hi, You should use SVGA server, the chip set should be CT 6 HTH, Giuseppe This is what I am using. It doesn't work; I get the message: No valid modes found. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald
Problems with make menuconfig
i can't start make menuconfig. I get the errormessages: dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory make[1] *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1 make[1] Leaving directory '/usr/scr/kernel-source-2.0.34/scripts/lxdialog' make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 Does anybody knows the solutions for the problem. thank you in advance Michael
Re: Toshiba Satellite - X problem
This is usually done because a wrong monitor configuration is in use. You should check your monitor setting and the modelines (both in XF86Config) I can send you mine, if you need it. bye, Giuseppe Anthony Campbell wrote: This is what I am using. It doesn't work; I get the message: No valid modes found. Anthony
Re: g++2.8, egcs, gcc 2.7.2, etc. - *very confused*
Subject: Re: g++2.8, egcs, gcc 2.7.2, etc. - *very confused* To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Waller) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:30:50 +1100 (EST) Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: Jiri Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Over the weekend, I downlaoded V 1.20 onto /usr/local/. Did the same last night. I tried compiling it and after finding out that I needed all the OpenGl stuff and isntalling that to (V. annoying by the way - had even to edit some of the source code to get rid of those probelms) I left the source as it was, but added some softlinks, like /usr/include/X11/GL - /usr/include/GL Me to, but I had to edit out some refs. to a /GL/GLw/ directory included file - the header file was actually under /GL, and Glw doesn't exist on my system. But then I got the make error message: In vbglcnv.h:51:Invalid storage class specifiers decalared in friend functions Get rid of the word static on that line. This is what i eventually did, after finally gettinbg a clue as to what it meant. I didn't have a clue what this meant even after viewing the two friend functions alluded to. storage class means auto, static, register or extern; there are two modifiers, const and volatile. In this case, there's only one storage specifier on the whole line (unless there's something in macros), so that had to be what it was complaining about :-) Getting rid of it fixed the problem. I hope it didn't break anything (but FREEdraft compiled and ran okay, so I guess not). But try compiling the vopengl stuff - all the makefiles are set up for windows, even though I downloaded the X version of V. Do you know what's happened to the V mailing list? It just says it's moving on the V site. Being naive enough to try anything, and having heard of all sorts of problems with egcs and g++, I decided to scrap g++2.8 and put g++2.7.2 on. (I had egcs 2.90.29, dated 19980515). Eeventually, I did get it to compile with egcc and g++ (2.8). I had to edit the Config.mk to use CC=egcc instead of CC=gcc so as not to mix and match g++2.8 and GCC2.7.2. I didn't want to do that, because FREEdraft claimed to use fancy exception-handling that 2.7.x doesn't grok - and that's why I was getting V. There's also a way on the ftp site a way to compile V without the OpenGL stuff. But hell - if it's there why not play. (I'm on a HAMM systen still - it took me 4 goes to get a successful upgrade from bo to that, so I'm not ready to slink it yet). slink isn't released yet, anyway. Indeed, but it is clear from this list that many people with time to spare are upgrading anyway... I think I've got what's up with the different compilers now, but since compiling free source is such a typical Unix tradition, I feel that the documentation on what's going on should be more widely publcicised, like in the general info about installing/upgrading to HAMM. Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Problems with make menuconfig
On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 11:50:33 +0200, Michael Kirchner wrote: dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory You need to install the ncurses-devel package. -- Ralf G. R. Bergs * Welkenrather Str. 100/102 * 52074 Aachen * Germany +49-241-876892, +49-241-86 (fax) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * PGP ok!
Re: Problems with make menuconfig
i can't start make menuconfig. I get the errormessages: dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory make[1] *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1 make[1] Leaving directory '/usr/scr/kernel-source-2.0.34/scripts/lxdialog' make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 Does anybody knows the solutions for the problem. thank you in advance Michael Missing curses.h? Make sure you have /usr/include/curses.h If not - install the ncurses3.4-dev package that contains it. Helge Hafting
Re: Toshiba Satellite - X problem
On 09 Dec 1998q, Francois GELIS wrote: Francois Gelis Laboratoire de physique theorique LAPTH BP 110, F-74941 Annecy-le-Vieux Cedex email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Anthony Campbell wrote: I'm trying to get X to work on my Toshiba Satellite 4000CDT. I've established that the chipset is CT B69000. This isn't listed in the hamm distribution. Has anyone got X to work on this machine and, if so, could they kindly provide their XF86Config file? For C T chips, the server to be used is the SVGA X server. But, I'm not sure if this particular C T chip is supported in the hamm version of XFree86 (3.3.2, as far as I know). I've heard somewhere that new C T chips are supported by the 3.3.3 version. Since it has been released two weeks ago, I'm not sure if there is .deb package of that yet. First, you may want to check on http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.3/chips.html Best regards, Francois I just checked on this site and yes, the 69000 is supported on the later XFree86. I suppose I shall have to wait for it. And yet it's said to be similar to the 6, so that *should* work. I wonder why it doesn't. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald
Re: shutdown -r instead of reboot? (was Re: ack! I've hosed init
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ralf G. R. Bergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 00:33:53 +0100, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Besides, it is good practice to use shutdown -r now instead of reboot. Or just press ctrlaltdel, because then init just calls the command shutdown -r now for you. Could you please explain why? reboot under SystemV traditionally does just that, it reboots the system. Hard. Due to historical BSD tradition and the first init for Linux being BSD-like (remember simpleinit?) people expect reboot to do an orderly shutdown and reboot. So, the reboot command has to guess the context in which it is being used, and then decide to do a hard reboot by calling the reboot(2) system call, or to do an orderly shutdown. In the last case, it just calls shutdown -r now for you! It guesses that context by checking the runlevel (which is stored in /var/run/utmp on a correctly running system). If it's 0 or 6, reboot will assume it has to do a hard reboot. If it's 1 ... 5, shutdown will be called. If it's anything else or reboot gets confused, it prints a warning messages and calls shutdown. Mike. -- Indifference will certainly be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
Re: fetchmail daemon mode
On 9 Dec, Shao Zhang wrote: If I comment out the line set daemon 300 in the file ~/.fetchmailrc. Then my fetchmail works fine... If I run fetchmail with the above line, then id doesn't work. The process just sits there and doing nothing... are you sure that it's not doing anything in the background, every 5 minutes? you could try /usr/sbin/tcpdump (normally must be run as root) to see if there are any packets going between your box and the mailserver on the right port (e.g. /usr/sbin/tcpdump host client and host server, or /usr/sbin/tcpdump port 143 [the IMAP port - look in /etc/services for other port numbers]). Do I have to start fetchmail in a special place?? no. mine is in my crontab file, because I don't use daemon mode. If I put it in ip-up, do I have to use the fetchmailrc in the root directory?? If I use that, how does fetchmail know to put in my user account rather than root?? I would have thought you could specify which .rc file to use. looking at the man page, I find that you can do; fetchmail -f /path/to/.fetchmailrc As for where it will decide to put it, I'm not sure. A full reading of the man page might be in order. You may be able to fix it by setting the $LOGNAME or $USER environment variables in the script that calls fetchmail, but that would be a bit of a fudge, and I wouldn't recommend it. hope that helps. I've not tried any of that though. read the man page before you do! -- Graham Ashton
