Interfaz dpkgweb
Este fin de semana e estado preparando unas paginas web para un servidor
que tengo en el trabajo,
me interesaria mostrar una lista de los paquetes instalados en el mismo,
para ello he escrito
este script, pero como mis conocimientos son bastante limitados, me
gustaria saber si alguien
ha escrito algo parecido , o por lo menos como filtrar los paquetes no
instalados para reducir el
tamaño de la pagina generada ).
Un saludo
--
Antonio Calvo Rodriguez
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vigo/Galicia/España
--#! /bin/bash
#
# Program : deb2web [genera lista de debs para la web]
# Written : sáb 26 dic 1998 19:13:11 CET
# Copyright : (c) Antonio Calvo Rodriguez ( 1998 )
# Licensed: under the GNU General Public License V2.0 or later.
#
# $Id$
#
#
# Este script genera una lista de paquetes para insertar en una pagina web
# Ojo que la lista es enorme
# generamos la lista de paquetes
echo table
echo trtdstrongPaquetetdVersiontdComentario/trstrong
dpkg -l|grep -E '^[a-z]'|sed -e s/^[a-z][a-z] //g| awk '{print trtda
href=#$1$1/a/tdtd$0/td/tr}'
echo /table
cat /var/lib/dpkg/status|awk '/Package/{print pstrongPackage:a
name=$2$2/abr/strong};$0 !~ /Package/{print $0br}'
Scanner ¿USB?
Hola, Aprovechando que he sido muy bueno este año, le voy a pedir a los Reyes Magos un scanner, para aprovechar las nuevas tecnologías estaba pensando en comprar uno por puerto USB, ¿Me podeis aconsejar?. ¿Tendré problemas para usarlo bajo Linux-Debian? ¿me aconsejais mejor un scasi?. Presupuesto: alrederor de 30.000 (iva incluido). Utilización: personal. Gracias por vuestro tiempo. -- ===NaClU2\==Ignacio= _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ ( @ @ ) _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ +-ºoO(_)Ooº-+ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/| | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ +---+
Grabadora de CDs ¿cual?
Hola a todos, como decía Ignacio, yo he sido bueno este año así que le voy a pedir a los Reyes una grabadora de CDs, he estado mirando la lista de compatibilidades hardware para asesorar a sus majestades los Reyed de Oriente pero no me aclara mucho pues son muchas las que trabajan bien sobre Linux. ¿Alguien me podría aconsejar una marca y modelo?. Es para uso personal y potencia de ordenador no me falta. Gracias. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanner ¿USB?
At 15.21 29/12/98 +0100, you wrote: Hola, Aprovechando que he sido muy bueno este año, le voy a pedir a los Reyes Magos un scanner, para aprovechar las nuevas tecnologías estaba pensando en comprar uno por puerto USB, ¿Me podeis aconsejar?. ¿Tendré problemas para usarlo bajo Linux-Debian? ¿me aconsejais mejor un scasi?. Presupuesto: alrederor de 30.000 (iva incluido). Utilización: personal. Gracias por vuestro tiempo. -- ===NaClU2\==Ignacio= _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ ( @ @ ) _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ +-ºoO(_)Ooº-+ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/| | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ +---+ Personalmente te recomiendo que le eches un ojo a la pásina de SANE antes de elegir, así te aseguras de que tu Scanner tendrá soporte en Linux antes de decidirte. http://www.mostang.com/sane/ Hardware Soportado: http://www.mostang.com/sane/sane-backends.html __ / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ /la oportunidad de -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ dominar tu ordenador __ | | |Miguel Pérez Colino | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | http://www2.adi.uam.es/~migpc | |__|
Re: Grabadora de CDs ¿cual?
At 15.36 29/12/98 +0100, you wrote: Hola a todos, como decía Ignacio, yo he sido bueno este año así que le voy a pedir a los Reyes una grabadora de CDs, he estado mirando la lista de compatibilidades hardware para asesorar a sus majestades los Reyed de Oriente pero no me aclara mucho pues son muchas las que trabajan bien sobre Linux. ¿Alguien me podría aconsejar una marca y modelo?. Es para uso personal y potencia de ordenador no me falta. Gracias. En mi tabajo tenemos un Philips CDD200 y una Panasonic, y sin duda gana por goleada la panasonic, aunque hay que decir que la Philips ya tiene un tiempecito. Aún así, si lo que quieres es una IDE, te recomiendo una Yamaha, que lleva un buffer de 2Mb, con lo que te ahorras un dinerillo en CD jodidos por el Buffer Under-run. (De todas formas, asegurate de que esté soportada por Linux). Yamaha: http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/Specs/?gHDR7CRW4416E http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/Specs/?gHDR7CRW2216E Panasonic: http://www.panasonic.com/PCSC/PCPC/storage/spdcds.html Philips: http://www.pc.be.philips.com/cdrw/ __ / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ /la oportunidad de -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ dominar tu ordenador __ | | |Miguel Pérez Colino | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | http://www2.adi.uam.es/~migpc | |__|
Cambio de contexto en WindowMaker
Hola Lista!!! Sabe alguién donde encontrar el parche para WindowMaker que permite el cambio de contexto (de ventanas) con Alt+Tab. No me refiero al CirculateRaise. Me refiero a la forma de cambiar entre tareas como se hace en Güindos. Gracias!!! Juanmi Mora Barcelona - España [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Powered by Linux - Debian 2.0 Hamm
S3Trio3D
¿Que servidor puedo usar para esta tarjeta, la S3Trio3D? Con las X que vienen en la hamm no viene nada sobre esta tarjeta (AGP). MadBit E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LLave PGP publica en: http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver ICQ#: 22515593
re: gcc / g++
Michael -- Thanks for your reply. I had not tried that. I must admit I've been a bit confused about the differences between gcc, g++, egcs, libc5 and libc6. The program I was trying to compile worked on Slackware 3.5 (libc5, I suspect) with gcc, and I seem to recall compiling it on Red Hat 5.1 (glibc/libc6). I have a much better feeling about things, now that I've gotten C and C++ to compile on my debian system. Thanks again! CSS On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Michael Procario wrote: Have you tried g++ -o hello hello.cc g++ is the egcs c++ compiler It know waht libraries it needs. -- Christopher S. Swingley International Arctic Research Center University of Alaska Fairbanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] mercury.bio.uaf.edu/~cswingle.grad -- An evil mind is a great comfort.
xdm (slink)
I am having some weirdness with the version of xdm in slink. When the package installed and did its setup, xdm started itself. I thought this was a test, like when you install the Xserver, but xdm did not then shutdown. I killed it and eventually rebooted. Now in /etc/X11/config I have no-start-xdm. When my system came back up, xdm started again. I've tried touching /etc/X11/config, recreating it, etc... Short of renaming /etc/init.d/xdm, I can't find any way of stopping xdm now. Anyone have any ideas (other than that the xdm package has a bug, which I suspect)? Sean Oh and if this message comes through as html, let me know; I seem to be having a problem getting netscape to stop.
Re: Adding memory
I have just purchased some more memory for my machine so that i can upgrade it to 64megs. Is there anything that i need to do so that Debian will recognize it or should I just put it in and start the machine up??? Put it in (carefully!:-) and start the machine up. Linux should see it fine. It's only when you go over 64 MB that you have to specifically tell Linux about the additional memory (via a /etc/lilo.conf append statement). -- . | For those old-timers like me who remember Randy | with nostalgia the days of 4.77mhz 8088 PCs; ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | get that old time feeling back any time you http://www.golgotha.net | want -- just run Windows on your Pentium!
Re: spreadsheet
Hi George Bonser; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: You might also look around for WingZ. Free download for Linux. If you want to be as close to Excel (for whatever reasons), I'd go with the spreadsheet in StarOffice5.0. damir On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Richard Sevenich wrote: ApplixWare has a spreadsheet - it's adequate for my needs, but is not free. Richard George Bonser From our familly to you, a toast. Peace, Health, and Prosperity.
Re: xdm (slink)
This is a bug in xdm (reported). Try removing the link in /etc/rc?.d that starts xdm. Better solution is removing xdm and installing it again when it's fixed. I'm not at my box now, so I can't give the exact answer, but I want to do the same because it seems to lock up my keyboard (another bug, but this may be limited to Branden's beta build). HTH, Brandon +--- ---+ | Brandon Mitchell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/ | | Sometimes you have to release software with bugs. - MS Recruiter | On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Sean M Hollingsworth wrote: I am having some weirdness with the version of xdm in slink. When the package installed and did its setup, xdm started itself. I thought this was a test, like when you install the Xserver, but xdm did not then shutdown. I killed it and eventually rebooted. Now in /etc/X11/config I have no-start-xdm. When my system came back up, xdm started again. I've tried touching /etc/X11/config, recreating it, etc... Short of renaming /etc/init.d/xdm, I can't find any way of stopping xdm now. Anyone have any ideas (other than that the xdm package has a bug, which I suspect)? Sean Oh and if this message comes through as html, let me know; I seem to be having a problem getting netscape to stop. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Get queue full runnig lpr
I am getting the message 'queue full' when I attempt to print. How do I fix it? David Natkins email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax : (609) 896-2239
Communicator won't run. Help!
The communicator 4.5 (complete install) won't run on my Debian box. I wonder maybe I did something wrong in configuration. Here is what I did: 1. login as root and download from ftp3.netscape.com 2. move the file to /tmp and gunzip and tar 3. Now I got all the files in /tmp/communicator4.5-x486 The README.install file suggests the ns-install be used. so I used it and install communicator in /usr/local/netscape. 4. logout and login as regular user. run netscape. I got seg fault! where did I do wrong? Is the libc5 in my system compatible with communicator? I am using libc.so.5.4.38. If a newer version of libc5 is required. Which one and how do I update it? Thanks for any help.
Re: installation frustration
On Wed, 23 Dec 1998, Bill Newman wrote: I'm an experienced Linux user. I just tried to install Debian on my Toshiba 225CDS. It was not a good out of the box experience. I ordered the most recent CD Cheapbytes had -- 2.0 (hamm). Booting from the CDROM fails -- the console announces that Linux is being loaded, but then the system suddenly reboots itself, starting over from self test, etc. Is it the cdrom, your computer, or the Debian distribution that's responsible? I ran across various obvious and not-so-obvious errors in the install documentation. install.txt has obvious errors in machine translation from HTML, e.g. Otherwise, you can retrieve them from urlnam, or a similar directory in any of the Debian FTP mirror sites. and elsewhere, with urlnam in place of a real URL. True. install.html is unclear about the various install options, e.g. Since you'll boot Linux from a floppy while installing it, it is important that the BIOS enables booting from a floppy disk. even though -- I believe -- one can go through the entire Debian install process without ever booting from a floppy. And install.html also says that BOOT.BAT is in \BOOT when it's actually in \INSTALL, and just says that you should run it when what you should actually do is CD \INSTALL, *then* run it. If this is the Official Debian GNU/Linux CD-ROM, you have a complaint. I don't know what Cheapbytes Hamm cdroms are like, but their Bo was disordered. Once I figured out where BOOT.BAT was, I was able to run BOOT.BAT from Win95 DOS mode, and Linux was able to start without crashing. So the installation proceeded, but then there were other problems. The install process pops up text windows which then get overwritten by other text windows before it's possible to read them, and there's no way to go back. Disturbing.. Finally at the end of the install process the window stayed up long enough that I could see that it just says Please wait, the system is determining the next step. This is IMNSHO not good UI behavior. Okay, but why not? Your system must really fly. I could read each next step on a 333 Celeron and an 200 Pentium Pro. The install process hung rather late (after much walking through menus to select modules, etc.) on my first try through. There were no error messages, just no response from the system, even to Ctrl-Alt-Del. The problem occurred right after I had the temerity to try switching virtual consoles, so I started over again and avoided switching virtual consoles, and didn't have that problem again. Tough. When choosing modules, the PPP module description says something that I (experienced with Linux, also some experience with SunOS and AIX system administration) couldn't understand about relying on serial.o and not being able to detect it automatically. I tried selecting the serial module by hand, but I'm still not sure that's what was intended. I don't recollect the automatically part. It's probably unusual ignorance on my part, but I found the time zone names confusing, and I didn't have any idea where to look up their definitions. Just a pointer to a net resource defining them would be really nice. I was looking for CST, and ended up with CST6CDT, which might be what I need for Dallas for all I know, but I'm certainly not confident. Central Standard Time. You might have just picked a geographical location rather than an explicit zone. I also found the description of the system clock in GMT? question to be confusing -- I wanted to keep the system clock in local time. I freely admit this is rather silly on a laptop, but Microsoftware does like it, and I have fairly compelling reasons to dual boot Win95 on my system. It was unclear to me from install.html whether this is supported by Debian: Unix and Linux keep GMT time on the system clock and use software to convert it to the local time zone. So what's the point of the install question? Can Debian Linux be made to work in local time, or not? It seems to work in RedHat, but from all I could see of the Debian documentation and behavior, it might be that all Debian does is a one-time clock adjustment. I believe the clock installation screens inform you that if your computer had been running a non-Unix system, then its clock was most likely set to local time. Therefore, you would answer no to the question, with the result that your clock would be read as local time, and not GMT. I found the documentation of the Create Master Boot Record? question to be unclear. Since my laptop allows me to run with either a CDROM installed, or a floppy installed, but not both, I was pretty much stuck modifying the MBR. I couldn't tell from the documentation whether the installation procedure would do the right thing with other bootable partitions on the system, leaving them accessible at the LILO boot: prompt, but I figured that since dual boot systems are ubiquitous in the Linux world, and since
Solved: Fujitsu Dynamo errors
hollen writes: dion I just bought a Fujutsu DynaMO 640SE magneto optical disk and am dion having trouble getting it to work. Several people were helpful in solving this problem. First (and what I already knew) was obtaining the patches for 2048 byte sectors for the kernel (I am using 2.0.34). Next was getting a patched fdisk that accepted the -b 2048 parameter to specify blocksize. And lastly, was the use of the -b 2048 parameter when running mke2fs. Now the MO works just fine. Thanks to all. dion -- Dion Hollenbeck Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page:http://woodsprite.com Brewing Page: http://hdb.org/hollen
Re: Communicator won't run. Help!
Tongyu Wang posted here: The communicator 4.5 (complete install) won't run on my Debian box. I wonder maybe I did something wrong in configuration. Here is what I did: Did U get the libc5 or glibc2 (from the unsupported dir) variety ? where did I do wrong? Is the libc5 in my system compatible with communicator? I am using libc.so.5.4.38. If a newer version of libc5 is required. Which one and how do I update it? Thanks for any help. Now U have to set the $HOME environment in .profile of UR Shell. Also run ldd -v /usr/local/netscape/netscape and see whether U R able to fulfill all the lib dependencies of Netscape. Please post with a detailed error description again if U have problems. ragOO, VU2RGU. Keeping the Air-Waves FREEAmateur Radio Keeping the WWW FREE...Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Communicator won't run. Help!
I got the libc5 version from the supported directory. I am using tcsh. The $HOME is already set. here is the ldd output: ldd: version 1.9.9 libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000d000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40055000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4005e000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40073000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x40085000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40093000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4009f000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40143000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40146000) libg++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x40206000) libstdc++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x4023e000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x4026f000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40278000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4031d000) I also try to debug the netscape executable (although there is no debugging symbol). The seg fault seems to be in libc.so.5. On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Raghavendra Bhat wrote: Tongyu Wang posted here: The communicator 4.5 (complete install) won't run on my Debian box. I wonder maybe I did something wrong in configuration. Here is what I did: Did U get the libc5 or glibc2 (from the unsupported dir) variety ? where did I do wrong? Is the libc5 in my system compatible with communicator? I am using libc.so.5.4.38. If a newer version of libc5 is required. Which one and how do I update it? Thanks for any help. Now U have to set the $HOME environment in .profile of UR Shell. Also run ldd -v /usr/local/netscape/netscape and see whether U R able to fulfill all the lib dependencies of Netscape. Please post with a detailed error description again if U have problems. ragOO, VU2RGU. Keeping the Air-Waves FREEAmateur Radio Keeping the WWW FREE...Debian GNU/Linux -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Communicator won't run. Help!
Tongyu Wang replied to my answer posting: I got the libc5 version from the supported directory. I am using tcsh. The $HOME is already set. here is the ldd output Please upgrade UR libc5. U have the latest version in ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/oldlibs/libc5_5.4.46XXX. I think libc5 is the culprit 'coz the binary might have been compiled using 5.4.46. Get the .46 lib instead of the .38 lib. Get back to me after installing the libc5XXX.46 and the errors ensuing or post UR reply here. ragOO, VU2RGU. Keeping the Air-Waves FREEAmateur Radio Keeping the WWW FREEDebian GNU/Linux
Re: _very_ reproducable WP8 X client lib error.
Stan Brown writes: I am having a reproducable problem with WP*. It must be a clinet side library problem, since it ccurs even on remote X servers. If you go to Format, and select Labels then select a label, and press OK WP says an X server error has occured. Popushell must have a non NULL parent. I have upgraded to xlib6-3.3.2.a-8 from frozen, and it still persists. I know I got a good download, because I have installe from the same tarball on a FreBSD machine, and runing it under Linux emulation there does not reproduce the bug. This bug is 100% reproducable. Sugestions? Do you have libc5 libraries or libc6 libraries? It may be a conflict in the old vs. new libc# libraries. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.-
Newsgroups and this mailing list
Hi. I'm about to get a new machine and put Debian on it, and was wondering if someone could explain the relation between the Debian mailing lists and the comp.os.linux hierarchy in newgroups. My immediate practical question is which source I should use for help. My more general question is why this apparent split exists (if I'm correct that it does). First, why not use the newsgroups mechanism? Are there people without access to them, or is it just an historical holdover? I believe it is possible to gateway between a mailing list and a newsgroup, so that posts to one come out in both forms. Newsgroups would allow searching and archiving via Deja News (among others), would be more visible to others, and wouldn't fill up my disk so much :) Of course, Debian could use newgroups but keep them separate from the comp.os.linux groups. Is there any reason to do so? It seems to me doing so somewhat defeats the purpose of open software. It also makes Debian appear somewhat rare, if one judges by traffic in the newsgroups. If this has been discussed ad nauseum before, I'd appreciate a pointer to the earlier discussions. I hunted around the archives some and couldn't turn up anything.
Re: installation frustration
On Wed, 23 Dec 1998, Bill Newman wrote: I'm an experienced Linux user. I just tried to install Debian on my Toshiba 225CDS. It was not a good out of the box experience. I ordered the most recent CD Cheapbytes had -- 2.0 (hamm). Booting from the CDROM fails -- the console announces that Linux is being loaded, but then the system suddenly reboots itself, starting over from self test, etc. [snip] I had the same problem on a laptop. You need to use the Tecra kernel image, which is on the Cheapbytes CD. If you are installing on a Toshiba Satellite, have a look at my website: www.achc.demon.co.uk/linux-toshiba.html. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: xterm not found in slink
Thank you Peter for your reply. Peter wrote: [snip] I dont' know, but if You are use the german mirror it could be happened try: entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list # begin of file /etc/apt/sources/list # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free #end of file and than if You like to upgrade Your whole distribution: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade I think the sources.list-file was one of the problems... It had stable instead of slink in it... but apt-get segfaults: mother# cat sources.list # begin of file /etc/apt/sources.list # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URLs deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free # end of file mother# apt-get update Get http://http.us.debian.org slink/contrib Packages Get http://http.us.debian.org slink/main Packages Get http://http.us.debian.org slink/non-free Packages Fetched 582k in 15s (36.8k/s) Updating package file cache...done Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...ok Segmentation fault Hmm. Damn. Anyone with the same problems? Ill try dselect-apt if it also segfaults and have a look for new apt-packages... Thanks, Gery -- - Wolfgang Gernot Bauer SKWB Schoellerbank Aktiengesellschaft Sterneckstrasse 5, A-5024 Salzburg Tel.: ++43-662-8684-364 Fax.: ++43-662-8684-44364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PB] a quiet sound blaster
[ First, thanks to everyone answered my first post ] It's amazing how my SB AWE 64 Gold can remain silent these days... So, I followed the instructions in Marcus' mini HOWTO. Everything went right, even the reboot step, but then, nothing works. Here are the symtoms: * At boot time, the only line appearing is: AWE32: not detected[1]. * Trying to cat a sound file on /dev/audio says: device busy. * I also tried it manually: `isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf' says a line similar to that of the mini HOWTO `modprobe -r sound' says device busy `modprobe -a sound' says nothing. * Some other checks: cat /dev/sndstat outputs something very similar to the example in the mini HOTWO, appart from the 2 AWE32 lines which are not present. `lsmod' says a line about sound (usage number: 2) etc... * My generated /etc/isapnp.conf look also very much like the example (appart from a missing -CD ROM- entry, which is surprising because I know I have a cdrom connected). What can be going wrong ? Footnotes: [1] BTW, I already had an init file for isapnp in /etc/init.d, but I'm not sure whether it is executed automatically at boot time or not. The HOWTO speaks about a /etc/init.d/boot file, which I don't have. -- / / _ _ Didier Vernahttp://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / E.N.S.T. INF C201.1 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ / /_/ / /__ /46 rue BarraultTel. (33) 01 45 81 73 46 75634 Paris cedex 13 Fax. (33) 01 45 81 31 19
Re: Running two mgetty's on same line
On Mon, 21 Dec 1998, John Forest wrote: Tim Thomson wrote: I have mgetty running on my modem from inittab and it answers after 10 rings, but I've set up xringd to dialup the internet and then run mgetty. The second one complains about the first, and won't run. I would take the mgetty out of the inittab, but then when the line is used for ppp, it isn't logged in utmp, and I like this, because sac dialout gives the total time for the month. Is there any other way to get such a simple time log for dialup? ... I think I understand what you mean. I set up mgetty and diald is now showing up in 'last'. Havent' tried yet, but maybe it is possible to set mgetty to debug 9 and make up a script simulating xringd. I might be totally of the mark, but with a little timing that program/script could check for RING's in the logfile. Providing mgetty sends the RING's to the logfile of course. If that works, you don't have to run xringd and 'sac dialout' would work. Hmmm, I haven't attempted this. What I did do was set up and inittab file with mgetty and one without, and put them in /etc/inittab.mg and /etc/inittab.nomg. Then I created /etc/mail.get which is an executable script like this : #! /bin/sh echo 'Dialing...' pppd call kapiti sleep 60 echo 'Waiting till pppd off...' while test -f /var/lock/LCK..ttyS3; do sleep 10; done sleep 5 echo 'Switching off mgetty via inittab' cp /etc/inittab.nomg /etc/inittab kill -HUP 1 sleep 2 echo 'Waiting for call...' mgetty -n 2 ttyS3 echo 'Modem Off, now turning mgetty back on' sleep 2 cp /etc/inittab.mg /etc/inittab kill -HUP 1 echo 'Done' - I have had a problem with this though. After dialling up, and getting mail and stuff, it decided to shut down. But this is what happened: Dec 25 17:59:20 tui pppd[31393]: Terminating connection due to lack of activity. Dec 25 17:59:28 tui pppd[31393]: write: Interrupted system call(4) Dec 25 21:58:37 tui pppd[31393]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Dec 25 21:58:38 tui pppd[31393]: Exit. There is usually a connection terminated line in there, so I guess that part may have been the one to be interrupted. I guess pppd thought it was down, so wouldn't try again. It was up for 4 hours (at NZ$2/hr), before hanging up properly!!! I'm not sure if it was pppd finally timing out, or if my ISP did it automatically. I guess xringd or mgetty may have caused the interrupted system call, but I'm not sure how to fix it. I made the sleeps longer in /etc/mail.get to what the are now, but it still does it. It doesn't do this every time, usually only when there is a bit of traffic waiting. Any ideas? Thanks, Tim. -- ICQ #18073712 http://members.xoom.com/thomson
Re: Setting screen back to B/W
On 21 Dec 1998, Tim Thomson wrote: When I set my machine up, I had a VGA screen on it, and so selected a colour install. But now I have a monochrome screen, and would like to set the terminal type back to b/w. I am running a bo system still, I see that the hamm disks define TERM to be 'linux-m' or something similar, but my system only knows the vanilla 'linux' terminal type. Where can I find a monochrome terminal definition, or does bo do this differently than hamm? Haha, I found it myself! It's in the other ncurses package, and now everything works! (Except I've put TERM=linum-m into ./.bash_profile, so now even remote systems get it. Anywhere better? No, don't tell me ahah! I can set it in /etc/inittab - add linux-m to the end of all my getty lines. Now it should pick up the correct terminal for remote connections too! Anywhere better this should be defined? Thanks, Tim. -- ICQ #18073712 http://members.xoom.com/thomson
Re: SUCCESS: xterm not found in slink
Hi Peter and all the other debianeers... I figured out my problem with the X-installation: apt had stable instead of slink in its config file - I only updated part of the packages (which delsect-ftp for slink) and dselect apt grabbed the stable-package-files again :( Seems to work now (at least I can see the xterm, etc. -packages now). I just wonder why apt segfaults when used in command-line (dselect-apt works fine). Peace, Gery -- - Wolfgang Gernot Bauer SKWB Schoellerbank Aktiengesellschaft Sterneckstrasse 5, A-5024 Salzburg Tel.: ++43-662-8684-364 Fax.: ++43-662-8684-44364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Web mirroring software
Cagdas Ogut wrote: Hi all, Can anybody suggest me a tiny web mirroring software to run on debian, preferebly in *.deb format? I don't expect much, only the basic functionality. I only know about a web-fetcher, named wget. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: (null) as hostname, shell, etc.
Have you checked out /etc/hostname and/or /etc/HOSTNAME? Somebody with local access should also be able to issue the command hostname myhostname. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: How to restore original conffiles?
Henning Makholm wrote: The short story: How do I tell dpkg to re-install the conffiles in a package, overwriting any changes I've made myself? Normally dpkg renames overwritten conffiles into conffile.dpkg-old and not installed conffiles into conffile.dpkg-dist. However I'm not sure if it also does this when it has accepted that the user had modified the configuration file. Please try: cd / dpkg --fsys-tarfile foo.deb |tar xf etc/where/the/conffile/is Even more secure, unpack the .deb file somewhere else and copy the conffile: mkdir /tmp/foo dpkg -x foo.deb /tmp/foo Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: killing D processes
Pere Camps wrote: Hi! How do I kill this processes? Reboot the machine. root 844 4.0 0.0 0 0 ? DW 14:46 0:24 (quotacheck) root 1041 0.0 0.3 744 344 ? D14:51 0:00 umount /xtd/ root 1119 0.1 0.5 868 500 ? D14:53 0:00 repquota -a I've tried with kill -9 pid but nothing happened. Is there anything I can do without having to reboot? Please refer to the documentation of top and ps. 'D' as status means non-interruptible. This is used when opening a file for writing, mounting or umounting filesystems etc. You can't interrupt or terminate a program in such a state. 'D' mainly occurs if you run into severe disk problems - or removed a disk without telling the system. In case of severe disk problems a reboot combined with a filesystem check would be a good idea. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: How do I keep copies of outgoing mail?
Helge Hafting wrote: I would like to keep a copy of every outgoing message I send from work, (using exmh, nmh smail). Is there a simple way of achieving this so I won't have to cc everything to myself? I know that elm, pine and mutt provide a way to copy mail into a =sent folder. I doubt that nmh/exmh lacks support for this. Please check its documentation. (I'm not a *mh user, so I don't know myself.) Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: mailing list archives
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I'm writing this, the archive on www.debian.org was last updated 35
hours ago.
Does anyone know of a mirror that is kept more up to date? even just a
flat text file would suit me.
You'll find an up-to-date archive of both lists at
ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/usenet/mailing-lists/debian-{devel,user}/
It's splitted by months and gzipped for older months.
Regards,
Joey
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Re: dpkg-multicd
Kenneth Scharf wrote: I installed the dpkg-multicd package, but I don't see how to use it to install from multiple cd's. I have the cheap bytes cd set with main, Please refer to /user/doc/dpkg-multicd/readme.txt.gz to find out how it works. The multicd rules doesn't work on regular disks. It can only work properly with special multicd cds. contrib, and non-free on separate disks. Is dpkg-multicd supposed to let me flip disks as required, or does it assume that I have 3 cdrom drives? In the access section of dselect I can't specify the same multicd lets you flip the cds. It doesn't provide multiple cdrom drives. This could be achieved by regular methods - or by apt or dpkg-multiftp. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: apm - questions
Bradley Fehr wrote: I just installed debian 2 on a laptop and I have the apm -s command working to suspend the system but, 1. I want apm -s to work for users other than root. Currently it says apm: Operation not permitted Any ideas? Use sudo or super as wrapper around it. I use super to allow certain users to perform small defined administrational tasks. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: mount -r -t iso9660...-fs not supp by kernal (fwd)
Eric Drayer wrote: currently the sugestion is to say yes to _NLS but there might be another fs that has somthing to do??? with iso9660. That's appropriate. Afaik you'll need at least one NLS and one KEYMAP (sp?) define. PS should i CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION y/n PENTIUM 200 no mmx two chips on the board GA586 I'm pretty sure that a Pentium has a math coprocessor on board. :) This option is essentially needed for 386 machines without an 387 and 486SX machines - speaking of intel boxes. I can't speak about the others. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Web server is really good, but can't email webmaster
Alex Perry wrote: I originally tried to send this message to the Webmaster. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: CNAME lookup failed temporarily. (#4.4.3) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. This only reflects one webmaster, there is half a dozen of them. It is a temporary failure, the address is correct, afaict. Perhaps someone could deliver the error report to the maintainers of the redirector list on master.debian.org and/or forward my _minor_ comments to the webmaster? Please direct your input to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The webmasters are reading there as well as other people who are interested in the Debian web site. I may not have mentioned this before, but the whole web server is well organised and is among the most responsive I've found on the internet. (1) Are you maintaining the 'nocache' tags correctly, so that I can have my machine locally cache the site and reduce loading on static pages in the usual way ? Please define correctly. (2) What really slows the whole site is when I hit the 'search' feature. I almost dread using it, partly because it tends not to find what I'm looking for. cgi.debian.org is a different machine. (4) Is there some way to browse the man pages on the site? If there is, I haven't found it. It would be useful to read the man pages in a package before I install it... You could try http://site/cgi-bin/dwww, iirc this is the way to access documentation through dwww. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: How to use scp through a crontab
By the way, this issue is resolved, although I can't give you the reason. *sigh*. All I can say is that it had something to do with /etc/hosts.equiv apparently. After I removed that file scp worked as expected. Unfortunately it still worked after I re-added the local machine name in that file. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Setting screen back to B/W
Tim Thomson wrote: Hi Guys, When I set my machine up, I had a VGA screen on it, and so selected a colour install. But now I have a monochrome screen, and would like to set the terminal type back to b/w. I am running a bo system still, I see that the hamm disks define TERM to be 'linux-m' or something similar, but my system only knows the vanilla 'linux' terminal type. Where can I find a monochrome terminal definition, or does bo do this differently than hamm? There is none, afaik. Normally console programs are only b/w if not defined otherwise. Slang programs are used to be colourful though. You need to tell them to use different colours then. In case you need X11 there is an option to XF86Config to tell the server that the screen device is only mono. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Using UPS.
±è ´ë ±Ô wrote: I like to know if there is any way of making a machine to start the shutdown process automatically when (may be after some minutes) it gets the power from a UPS? There are several UPS's that are supported by free software. Please take a look into the /pub/Linux/system/daemons/ups (or similar) directory on sunsite.unc.edu. For example www.apcc.com produces UPS's that are supported by free software. The required apcd is also included in Debian. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: StarOffice 3.1 setup
Stephen Turner wrote: I'm trying to install StarOffice 3.1. I used the installation package in contrib/editors. That bit seemed OK. But when I run /usr/lib/StarOffice-3.1/setup (or the file it points to inside the Linux subdirectory) as a user, I get StarOffice 3.1 Installation Tool Segmentation fault I guess you have experienced a problem with libc5 / libc6 version of libaries. I'm sorry, but I don't have a fix. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Upgrade to slink
Shao Zhang wrote: Hi all, I am thinking about upgrading from hamm to slink via modem. But I am not sure how to do it.. Could someone please point me out some documents to read or give me some suggestions? Use apt-get upgrade-dist (or upgrade dist), there is an option for it. Since hamm and slink are not that different, you can also just switch your paths in dselect to point to slink and run select once and install and configure a few times. Be careful, you'll need to manually select packages like xterm and nfs-server since the former packgaes were splitted. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Mutt and PGP folders?
Erik van der Meulen wrote: After all the praise here for the Mutt mail client, I decided to give it a try and upgraded from elm. Now after a week I do not know if I can do without! Wonderful stuff. Hee hee. It has so many possibilities that it makes me hungry for more. I would really like to be able to have PGP encrypted mail folders, accessible through Mutt. Does anyone know of a way to make Mutt open encrypted folders and display contents and also have me add message again? This would be fantastic! You should ask on the mutt-dev list, www.mutt.org is set up, the list would probably [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I'm not sure, please refer to the web page. But please let them add support for gzip'ed mail folders first. :) [it's only available as additional patch at the moment.] Much less of a problem but nice to have: is there a simple way to change ispell's default language on the fly? I usually type in Dutch, this is my default. Now after finishing this mail I would like to run ispell English (as you can imagine). Can this be done without exiting Mutt and having to change links and the like? I'm pretty sure you can specify the program that is run as spell checker. Change it from ispell to LANG=nl_NL ispell so ispell loads dutch maps - I hope ispell understands this... Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: aol.com not blocked anymore? (was Re: just a test - please ignore)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you read this, I suppose that block has been lifted (maybe just in my case?). IMHO, blocking AOL is a BAD idea - I can understand the need to That's correct, I added your address to the list of valid ones just after I saw the first of your mail which indeed didn't look like spam. control spam, but stopping messages from the world's number one e-mail service isn't a very friendly thing to do. There are people that still use AOL constantly (especially here at the office) and run Linux as well. In December a large amount of spam we receive originates from AOL, only UUnet has a higher amount of spam output. Since there are only half a dozen active debian users who use their AOL account for Debian lists it is convenient to simply add their address to our exception list. Regards, Joey (Debian Listmaster and *) -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: power outage now linux problem
AJ wrote: ok the power in my house just went out and when linux tries to boot it goes and checks my inodes and junk and then gets to a part and says: Problem: block on freelist at 06fbbc90 isnt free over adn over and doesnt boot it lets me type but i have no clue what to do.. I'd try to boot Linux into single user mode and repair the fs manually. At the LILO prompt enter linux single (if that's not sufficient you could also add init=/bin/sh) and issue the command e2fsck -fpy /dev/hdwhatever Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: getty source
Eugene Sevinian wrote: Hi, where can I find the source of (a)getty? It's in the util-linux package Regards, Joey PS: dpkg -S /sbin/getty tells you. -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Logitech TrackMan Maple+
Michael Wahl wrote: Good morning, Can somebody help me with the installation of a Logitech TrackMan Maple+? Is this a typo and should be TrackMan Marble? If so this is my Pointer section in XF86config: Section Pointer ProtocolMouseMan Device /dev/ttyS0 EndSection And this is my gpm configuration from /etc/gpm.conf: device=/dev/ttyS0 responsiveness=15 type=mman append= Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: pkgsel
Please only refer to debian-boot@lists.debian.org in your replies. Philip Jensen wrote: I installed Debian v2.0, and after the first re-boot I am asked for a password for root. Ok, no problem so far. But, I discovered an application which runs automatically after you have logged in for the first time called PKGSEL. This allows you to chose a basic initial installation. However, this program/script cleverly deletes itself. I did a reinstall, so I could back the file/s up before PKGSEL completed running, and deleted itself. I thought this was an excellent way of making Debian easier to install. I have attempted to work through dselect, however my knowledge of dselect is minimal, and I found dselect fairly laborious to use. When you select a package, it advises about dependancies, and then you need to choose those, etc, etc. I guess I just don't know how to drive it very well, even though I have read the dselect.beginner.txt file. Anyway, does anyone know anything about pkgsel (which is a perl script). I would like to investigate further to make Debian easy to install for my friends, who I want to try Debian/GNU Linux. What do you want to know? The used technique is quite easy. Extract a selection with dpkg --get-selections foo.select and install a new one with cat foo.select | dpkg --set-selections. You'll find the entire list in the boot-floppies package. I'm sure that a current version of it can be found in our incoming directory right now. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Newsgroups and this mailing list
Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote... Hi. I'm about to get a new machine and put Debian on it, and was wondering Congratulations!! Please don't take the following as criticism, it's meant more as correcting some mis-knowledge you have. Share And Enjoy, and all that. Feel free to respond :) if someone could explain the relation between the Debian mailing lists and the comp.os.linux hierarchy in newgroups. My immediate practical question is which source I should use for help. Use the debian sources for debian-specific help like Why doesn't this .deb install properly? and the *linux* newsgroups for more general help. My more general question is why this apparent split exists (if I'm correct that it does). So that the Debian-specific questions can be answered in a quieter forum with less noise. Newsgroups tend to have much more off-topic junk and spam than mailing lists. Those newsgroups are also for -all- flavours of Linux, not just Debian. Many of the Debian people who help here probably don't have the time or inclination to wander through newsgroups full of questions that have nothing to do with Debian. First, why not use the newsgroups mechanism? Are there people without access to them, or is it just an historical holdover? I believe it is 1. More noise, less 'signal' in the newsgroups. 2. More stuff not related to Debian. 3. News propogation isn't great, people will only get some of the articles. It depends on -all- of the machines being up and well-behaved, where mailing lists just depend on debian.org and the recipient machine. 4. News is slower to propogate. 5. To start up a new newsgroup is a long and involved process, where if Debian needs a new mailing list they can just start it. possible to gateway between a mailing list and a newsgroup, so that posts to one come out in both forms. Gatewaying tends to be buggy and cause dupes. It also means that the spam and junk that tends to get posted to newsgroups will end up in the mailing list as well - Newsgroups would allow searching and archiving via Deja News (among others), would be more visible to others, The archives are available to anybody on the Debian website. And there's plenty of advertising that they exist. and wouldn't fill up my disk so much :) :) True. But you -could- always read them from the website archives! Of course, Debian could use newgroups but keep them separate from the comp.os.linux groups. Is there any reason to do so? It seems to me doing so somewhat defeats the purpose of open software. It also makes Debian Why so? If the discussions weren't available to anybody then probably it would defeat the purpose of open -support-, but the mailing lists are open and the archives are on the web ... appear somewhat rare, if one judges by traffic in the newsgroups. Is this a problem? Advertising isn't our game, and Debian has lots of users. Taking over the world, or even the Linux world, isn't their aim. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : It is the business of the future to be dangerous. -- Hawkwind
Re: Mailing list software for non-permanent internet access?
Mario Bertrand wrote: Hi, I would like to setup a mailing list, but I don't have a permanent internet access. Is there a software I can configure for that? You can use both smartlist and majordomo in an offline setup. All you need is to be able to receive mail for several different accounts and pipe mail through certain programs. The most easiest way to provide mailing lists offline is if you're using UUCP or receive mail via SMTP every now and then - thus an infinite number of accounts can be used. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Unidentified subject!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how I can load Linux onto a Toshiba Prestege 300CT?? I created a copy of the bost disks from the web site (along with the base files on disk) yet I cannot get Linux to start. Everytime I try to boot, the computer restarts. I tried the other Toshiba boot files and got the same problem. Is that a laptop? If so you should take a look at the Linux Laptop homepage to find out if Linux runs on your machine and if it needs some modifications. http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: apsfilter
Rick Knebel wrote: Is there any way to rerun the apsfilter setup. If so where is the setup script located at? Currently there isn't. I think that you can re-run the apsfilter postinst by sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/apsfilter.postinst Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: mirror
John Leget wrote: HI all, Any mirror users out there, how do i force it to download the files that symlink's on a remote site point to, ive had no success, it just ignores them. Normally mirror will only add the link if the file it points to is also available on the local system. This behaviour can be modified: make_bad_symlinks If true, symlinks will be made to invalid (non-existent) pathnames. Under older ver- sions this defaulted to true. [false] follow_local_symlinks Regexp of pathnames that should be followed to the file or directory they point at. This makes local symlinks invisible to mir- ror. [''] [..] If the remote site contains symlinks that you want to flatten out into the corresponding files, then do this by changing the flags passed to the remote ls: flags_recursive+L or flags_nonrecursive+L First test this by trying a ls -lRatL on the remote site under the ftp command to check whether the remote file- store has any symlink loops. Regards, Joey PS: man mirror could be your friend... -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: quantex laptops, any good/debian compatible?
Adam Shand wrote: i've been looking at the quantex laptops (www.quantex.com) and they look too good to be true. very reasonable prices, decent looking hardware and a pretty cool web site (though slow ...). has anyone had any experiences with them? i'd love to hear anything about them, especially if debian works well with them (graphics card, sound card etc). Debian GNU/Linux should work well with them if Linux will run and XFree86 will be able to access the graphics card properly. Please refer to the Linux laptop homepage at http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: apsfilter
Rick Knebel wrote: Hi, I am trying to set up apsfilter with my Hp 870Cse and have not been succesful with debian. I have used freebsd with apsfilter without problems. Here is a copy of my printcap. My problem is that nothing will print but when i check the que it is empty. Apparently lpd/apsfilter has already sent the data to the printer not noticing that it can't handle them. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Xdm on remote servers.
I have xdm installed on my server and have configured it to not start a local xserver. I also have a win98 computer with eXceed configured for XDMCP broadcast. I get the login window and it is able to authenticate me as a user and then the login window shows up again and it only loops.
Re: mailing list archives
On Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 06:05:38PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
You'll find an up-to-date archive of both lists at
ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/usenet/mailing-lists/debian-{devel,user}/
It's splitted by months and gzipped for older months.
Noteworthy is that this unlike the HTML archives actually work as well as
your mail reader does wrt things like MIME...
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Re: Upgrade to slink
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: Shao Zhang wrote: Hi all, I am thinking about upgrading from hamm to slink via modem. But I am not sure how to do it.. Could someone please point me out some documents to read or give me some suggestions? Use apt-get upgrade-dist (or upgrade dist), there is an option for it. Since hamm and slink are not that different, you can also just switch your paths in dselect to point to slink and run select once and install and configure a few times. Be careful, you'll need to manually select packages like xterm and nfs-server since the former packgaes were splitted. That should be 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and it works quite well (you will probably need to run dselect install more than once). Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Newsgroups and this mailing list
I may be wrong (pls correct me if so) but I believe this mail list _IS_ linked to the newsgroups. Check out linux.debian.user ivan. At 11:30 AM 12/29/98 GMT, you wrote: Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote... Hi. I'm about to get a new machine and put Debian on it, and was wondering Congratulations!! Please don't take the following as criticism, it's meant more as correcting some mis-knowledge you have. Share And Enjoy, and all that. Feel free to respond :) if someone could explain the relation between the Debian mailing lists and the comp.os.linux hierarchy in newgroups. My immediate practical question is which source I should use for help. Use the debian sources for debian-specific help like Why doesn't this .deb install properly? and the *linux* newsgroups for more general help. My more general question is why this apparent split exists (if I'm correct that it does). So that the Debian-specific questions can be answered in a quieter forum with less noise. Newsgroups tend to have much more off-topic junk and spam than mailing lists. Those newsgroups are also for -all- flavours of Linux, not just Debian. Many of the Debian people who help here probably don't have the time or inclination to wander through newsgroups full of questions that have nothing to do with Debian. First, why not use the newsgroups mechanism? Are there people without access to them, or is it just an historical holdover? I believe it is 1. More noise, less 'signal' in the newsgroups. 2. More stuff not related to Debian. 3. News propogation isn't great, people will only get some of the articles. It depends on -all- of the machines being up and well-behaved, where mailing lists just depend on debian.org and the recipient machine. 4. News is slower to propogate. 5. To start up a new newsgroup is a long and involved process, where if Debian needs a new mailing list they can just start it. possible to gateway between a mailing list and a newsgroup, so that posts to one come out in both forms. Gatewaying tends to be buggy and cause dupes. It also means that the spam and junk that tends to get posted to newsgroups will end up in the mailing list as well - Newsgroups would allow searching and archiving via Deja News (among others), would be more visible to others, The archives are available to anybody on the Debian website. And there's plenty of advertising that they exist. and wouldn't fill up my disk so much :) :) True. But you -could- always read them from the website archives! Of course, Debian could use newgroups but keep them separate from the comp.os.linux groups. Is there any reason to do so? It seems to me doing so somewhat defeats the purpose of open software. It also makes Debian Why so? If the discussions weren't available to anybody then probably it would defeat the purpose of open -support-, but the mailing lists are open and the archives are on the web ... appear somewhat rare, if one judges by traffic in the newsgroups. Is this a problem? Advertising isn't our game, and Debian has lots of users. Taking over the world, or even the Linux world, isn't their aim. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : It is the business of the future to be dangerous. -- Hawkwind -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Install wierdness or newbie goes doh!
Desperately seeking help! Think I'm doing something silly in my installation. Is it necessary to load/configure any modules for an integrated pci controller for ide disk/cdrom (or for anything else - fairly plain vanilla system) using the hamm cd's? If so, which ones? The install script doesn't seem to be entirely clear on this one - or else i'm an idiot and need to learn to read (entirely possible and quite likely). Also I may need to add hdc=cdrom as a boot parameter for my cdrom (see below) - I can't find anywhere obvious to do this in the install script. I tried adding the cdrom module and feeding it hdc=cdrom as a parameter - received error - this module does not accept command line parameters or word to that effect. Also tried modifying /target/etc/lilo.conf from AltF2 and installing it with sbin/lilo -c lilo.conf. However I can't get the newly installed kernel to boot bit hard to know if this works! If I'm not doing something silly I'm having what can only be described as an interesting problem. Gory details are: Installing debian 2.0 from the hamm cd's (downloaded from mirror.aarnet.edu.au). Booting from a dos floppy with cd drivers and running d:\install\boot.bat, boots into kernel from cd just fine. After installing kernels and base system, set to boot from hard drive, create boot floppy. Reboot from the hard drive: see message loading linux... before computer promptly hard resets itself. I assume from this (dangerous, especially when you have no idea how the kernel loads) that I have either misconfigured my kernel installation, or that something in my BIOS isn't set right (doesn't like being scanned? - however why does the kernel loaded from cd work if this is the case?) Saga continues: boot from floppy - this works just fine. Continue into dselect and install packages o.k. Reboot from hard drive, falls over. Reboot from floppy, now it falls over too (??). this continues until a dos boot floppy and fdisk intervene. Try again - repartition, reinstall.reboot...reset... Installation details: Debian 2.0 hamm cd's - as far as I can tell kernel v2.0.34 No device drivers configured manually in script - is this right for onboard ide controller for disk/cdrom? tried loading linear disk device and cdrom modules just in case, still fell over. System details are: - pentium 166 dual boot (when i can get to lilo!) windoze and malfunctioning debian - motherboard reports as 430VX rev3.0 chipset, Award PCI/ISA BIOS 4.51PG with Plug and Play BIOS extensions 1.0A - 64mb of ram - 2Gb mode-4 ide disk drive on hda (3 partitions - 1.2gb fat32, ~515mb linux, 96mb linux swap) - Generic ide cdrom (reported as CDROM 24X/AKOv by bios) on hdc - internal modem on isa bus, set to COM4 Previously I have been running the slackware 3.0 release (not sure of the kernel version - now in digital heaven) without any problems apart from: linux and win95 seem to have difficulty recognising my cdrom when it is set as a master. Works fine as a slave. When set as master, under slackware needed to append hdc=cdrom in lilo.conf - with a 30 second delay in lilo windoze also recognises it (???) - otherwise need to add device driver in config.sys. Work that one out! (cdrom is listed as being detected at startup by the BIOS). Thanks to Jaakko Niemi and Thomas Kocourek for the following info: . I swapped /dev/hdb (hard drive slave on primary bus) for /dev/hdc (cdrom master on secondary bus). Two things have become self-evident: 1) If the kernel does not see any valid devices on the secondary IDE bus, the kernel will disable the bus (this fact was unknown to me) 2) Some CDrom drives prefer to be slave drives and do not properly respond to the kernel's inquiry when jumpered as a master drive (again, an unknown fact) Apologies for the lengthy post, but kind of confused at the moment. Thanks in advance for any help/advice that anyone can give me. cheers john [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install wierdness or newbie goes doh!
On 30 Dec, John Reid wrote: - 2Gb mode-4 ide disk drive on hda (3 partitions - 1.2gb fat32, ~515mb linux, 96mb linux swap) I think this might be the problem. LILO has problems booting linux if the primary linux partition is located above a certain block. I think it would be best to have the linux ext2 partition as the first, located below the 1Gb mark. I am not sure though. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. -- - Alexander Deruwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: Gummbah -
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Web-based email for Debian
I'm running a slink system w/Exim as my MTA. Does anyone know of a web-based e-mail system that would fit into a Debian system nicely? -- Regards,| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a . | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 Randy | bit operating system originally coded for ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | a 4 bit microprocessor written by a 2 bit http://www.golgotha.net | company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.
Re: ipchains/ip_masq problems
This is in response to a very old message on debian-user which I saw while browsing the mailing list archives. I've got IP masq working on a Debian system with kernel 2.1.132 at home. I think you're missing the obligatory echo for the 2.1.x kernels to turn on IP forwarding. I'm not at home right now, but I seem to recall that in my /etc/init.d/network I inserted the following lines: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ipchains -P forward DENY ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.2.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 Don't just type these in without double-checking them, though, since I'm *not* at home and they might be wrong. If you still need this information, let me know and I can look it up at home to get it right.
Re: pkgsel
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: Philip Jensen wrote: Anyway, does anyone know anything about pkgsel (which is a perl script). IIRC it is in fact a b/ash script, which uses whiptail to produce a nice colourful menu display of varying ways of configuring your shiny new Debian installation. I agree with Philip -- it's a shame to have such a nice utility disappear following the initial install. So, like him, I also switched to another VC in the middle of my install, and saved not only the pkgsel script, but also the profiles and tasks sub-directories and their contents, as well as the rev_task (packages to deinstall) file. [Truth to tell, I was really more interested in the lists of selected packages as found in the tasks and profiles sub-directories than in the script to drive their selection.] The pkgsel script needs some tweaking before you can run it standalone post-install; but as Joey says: if you've got the lists of packages which make up a task or a profile, then just run cat chosen_packages_list | dpkg --set-selection to set your selection of desired packages so that when next you run dselect, they will already be marked for installation. (This is, in fact, all pkgsel does.) I thought this was an excellent way of making Debian easier to install. Agreed. It's also a neat way to customise your own list of desired packages to install, for whatever purpose (custom workstation; whatever). (And, unlike dselect, it doesn't scare you witless the first time you encounter it.) msw -- Martin Wheeler -StarTEXT, Glastonbury, Somerset, England - BA6 9PH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.startext.co.uk/
Re: qmail on dial-up ppp
This is in response to a fairly old message on debian-user. I run qmail at home on a Debian system which is connected via dialup PPP (using diald) with a dynamic IP address. I'm not at home right now, so if you need to see exact copies of config files, let me know and I can look them up. First of all, make up a FQDN. My home dialup system is named phoenix.local. The /etc/hosts entry will look something like this: 192.168.1.1 phoenix.local phoenix I used .local because this will likely never become a valid top-level domain name. I wouldn't want a name conflict. The 192.168.1.1 is the address of one end of the sl0 (SLIP) connection that diald establishes. (This is not the same as the ppp0 (PPP) connection that will be established when diald actually spawns pppd in response to routing requests. The ppp0 interface gets a dynamic IP address from the other end of the phone line.) Once you've made up a FQDN, you can tell qmail what your hostname is. It may not be able to figure it out automatically... which is OK. All you have to do is put your FQDN into the appropriate control file (I think it's control/me, but it's been a while). With diald, then, that's all you have to do. Purely local mail (such as mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], generated on phoenix) will be handled without causing qmail to do any DNS lookups, so it won't trigger diald. Outbound messages (e.g., to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) require a DNS lookup, so diald will be triggered (assuming you're using your ISP's DNS servers, which you pretty much *must* do when using diald with a dynamic IP address, since the first packet will be lost due to changes of the local IP address), and then the message will be sent out. Incoming mail will have to be fetched from a POP3 or IMAP server; I use fetchmail for this. Without diald, you'll have to manually tell qmail to deliver the mail when the PPP connection comes up. There's a signal you can send to one of the qmail processes to make it run the queue -- I believe it's signal 14 (SIGALRM), and the process is probably qmail-send, but check the docs to be sure. You can put a line like this into ip-up: kill -ALRM `pidof qmail-send` I actually do this even though I don't have to... my outbound mail volume is low enough that I want each of them delivered ASAP. Hope this helps.
mounting W95 partitions
I need to mount my Windows 95 partitions from the Debian 2.0 setup. I keep getting errors that say I am trying to mount an extended partition. Well, guess what? That's exactly what I'm trying to do! Just what is Linux's syntax for these DOS extended partitions that Windows puts all those drive letters on? I've tried /dev/hda1 and so on, and I've tried combinations from /dev, but nothing works. What's the secret password? _ () _-- __() Ted Llewellyn ) _-- / /_--/__--- (/ (/
Re: mounting W95 partitions
It sounds like you are trying to mount the extended partition itself rather than one of the logical partitions which it contains. To see what is there, run fdisk and use the 'p' command. Bob On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Ted Llewellyn wrote: I need to mount my Windows 95 partitions from the Debian 2.0 setup. I keep getting errors that say I am trying to mount an extended partition. Well, guess what? That's exactly what I'm trying to do! Just what is Linux's syntax for these DOS extended partitions that Windows puts all those drive letters on? I've tried /dev/hda1 and so on, and I've tried combinations from /dev, but nothing works. What's the secret password? _ () _-- __() Ted Llewellyn ) _-- / /_--/__--- (/ (/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Logitech TrackMan Maple+
Martin Schulze wrote: Michael Wahl wrote: Can somebody help me with the installation of a Logitech TrackMan Maple+? Is this a typo and should be TrackMan Marble? If so this is my Pointer section in XF86config: Section Pointer ProtocolMouseMan Device /dev/ttyS0 EndSection And this is my gpm configuration from /etc/gpm.conf: device=/dev/ttyS0 responsiveness=15 type=mman append= Hmm... my Trackman Marble is a PS/2 device: Section Pointer ProtocolPS/2 Device /dev/mouse EndSection ...and... device=/dev/psaux responsiveness= type=ps2 append=-l \a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\ (The append= line isn't relevant to the device type; it's to do with recognising words and sentences.) -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. Matthew 12:36
Re: Communicator won't run. Help!
I got the libc5 version from the supported directory. I am using tcsh. Also make sure that the environment variable MOZILLA_HOME is set to point to /usr/local/netscape The $HOME is already set. here is the ldd output: ldd: version 1.9.9 libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000d000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40055000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4005e000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40073000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x40085000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40093000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4009f000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40143000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40146000) libg++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x40206000) libstdc++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x4023e000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x4026f000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40278000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4031d000) I also try to debug the netscape executable (although there is no debugging symbol). The seg fault seems to be in libc.so.5. Do the following and send me the output via personal email (do not mail the mailing list) - $ strace /usr/local/netscape/netscape One thing you could try is moving the ~/.netscape directory out of the way and starting communicator again. If it starts fine, you can slowly start moving files from your old ~/.netscape to your new ~/.netscape one by one and see when the seg fault starts happening. Thaths -- Homer: Oh Lisa! There's no record of a hurricane ever hitting Springfield. Lisa: Yes, but the records only go back to 1978 when the Hall of Records was mysteriously blown away. Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Indentured Slave
Re: Logitech TrackMan Maple+
Oliver Elphick wrote: Hmm... my Trackman Marble is a PS/2 device: Mine too, but I'm too lame to test the PS/2 connector so I used the adapter to turn it into a serial device. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
printing --help
got an epson stylus color 400, but have not been able to get it to print anything at all yet. if anyone has any ideas on what's going on, i would appreciate some help in fixing this. whatever is sent to the printer makes it to the queue, then the bytes seem to disappear because nothing happens at this point. could this be a driver issue, and if so how? i'm running debian 2.0.34 on a 233mmx with 32 megs. if more iinformation is needed, i'll be glad to give it. thank you for your help. harold
Re: uninstalling smail when a self compiled MTA is present
The necessary package for telling Debian that you've got a locally built mail-transport-agent installed is equivs. I don't know whether the hamm version will work right or not... several months back, during either hamm or slink upgrading, my equivs suddenly stopped working; I filed a bug report, and the maintainer told me to edit some file and change a version number, at which point everything mysteriously worked again. But don't ask me why -- no explanation was given along with this advice. The equivs package only seems to be available from http://www.debian.org and not from any mirror sites. Or at least that was what seemed to be the case when I was doing all of this If equivs doesn't work for you, let me know and I can try to dig up exactly what I did. (I'm not at home right now.)
Where are the configuration files for Afterstep?
Does anyone know where the config files for Afterstep (the version contained in hamm) are found? In particular I want to modify the options presented by Start/Debian (Apps, Screen etc.). The docs seem to say they are in ~GNUstep or /usr/share/GNUstep but they don't seem to be. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: Installation on a separate hard drive
At 06:39 AM 12/27/1998 -0600, Gordon von Miller wrote: Hello, Would installation be any easier on a separate hard drive? TIA Gordon Just my opinion, but YES. For one thing, it gives you one more level of removal from doing something wrong and hosing your existing setup. There's really not a great deal of difference, but for my money, I'd go for the separate drive.
Re: File download problem
At 06:35 PM 12/27/1998 -0600, KTB wrote: Hi, I was downloading the Communicator file once again. I tried another installation and came very close this time. Anyway I decided to remove all the previous Communicator files I had downloaded and see if a fresh one would work. I used rm to take out a communicator directory and all the files. I used updatedb and locate communicator and didn't find anything. My problem is when I finished downloading the Communicator file with Lynx the selection save to disk came up; I selected that and when I did, got the message, Alert!: Cannot write to file then it said to enter a new file name which I tried but it just kept saying Alert!:... So what have I done now? Why can't I save the file to disk? Thanks, Kent Sounds like you don't have write permission in the directory where you're trying to save the file. Either change directories to where you do have write permission (the home directory of the user you're logged in as), or download the file as root.
Re: Where are the configuration files for Afterstep?
I think they are in /usr/share/afterstep/ Andrew On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Anthony Campbell wrote: Does anyone know where the config files for Afterstep (the version contained in hamm) are found? In particular I want to modify the options presented by Start/Debian (Apps, Screen etc.). The docs seem to say they are in ~GNUstep or /usr/share/GNUstep but they don't seem to be. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
[Off Topic] Ideas on providing low cost email access to schools
[I would appreciate it if you Cc-ed your replies to this thread to me] #include offtopic.h Folks, I am planning on writing an article for a computer magazine in India [1]. This magazine is big supporter of Linux in India. I thought of writing an article on how high schools and colleges with non-dedicated connections to each other could provide basic internet access [2] to its students. Basic Idea ^^^ The schools will be connected to each other with hubs in the various regions. These hubs typically would have dedicated connections (leased lines). The schools have departmental LANs with windows (3.1 and '95) machines. Basically, the departments will be providing the students with accounts on their POP/SMTP (Linux) servers. The students would use a POP/SMTP capable client to connect to the server and download and upload their emails. Outgoing Mail ^ The Linux machine will queue all the outgoing mail. This Linux machine will then dial another school or hub (via. PPP) during the off-peak hours and send out the emails from the queue. The hubs which have dedicated connections will then take care of sending out the emails to the recipients. Incoming Mail ^ An email bound for foo.edu.in will reach the hub (bar.net.in) and will be queued there. When foo.edu.in connects to bar.net.in to send out outgoing email, bar will instruct foo to download the incoming email. Questions ^ 1. Has something like this been implemented elsewhere? It would be nice if I had more actual technical details on how this has been implemented. 2. I have a pretty good knowledge of how to take care of the outgoing mail scenario. I am a bit hazy on how the hub would queue mails coming to foo. How can the MTA be configured in bar to wait for foo to connect? 3. Are there out of the box solutions available? Do any of the MTAs support this kind of stuff? I don't want to write custom scripts. I prefer a solution that needs minimal maintenance. 4. I want to stay with TCP/IP. uucp is not a solution for me. Footnotes [1] PCQuest - http://www.pcquest.com/ [2] I am defining basic internet access as email for starters. If a school has a dedicated internet connection this will include NNTP, FTP and HTTP access. Thanks in advance for your input. Thaths -- Homer: Oh Lisa! There's no record of a hurricane ever hitting Springfield. Lisa: Yes, but the records only go back to 1978 when the Hall of Records was mysteriously blown away. Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Indentured Slave
Booting Problems, Floopy drive is dying!!
Hi All, I am upgrading a system from Red Hat to Debian 2.0. But it seems the floppy drive on the box is dead. I can not write a boot disk no matter what I tried to do. I use new floppies, old floppies etc and nothing works. At the point where dinstall ask you to insert a floppy and everything seems to go well. It does the deviation check and seems to write the disk. Then after write the last cylinder something flash on the screen to quick to read and it is then covered by the color dinstall message - determining next set. Basically, I need to know if I can find a Debian boot image on the web or net. I've checked Debian.org did see it. Any hints. Rod.
OFFTOPIC: How to use strings with libstdc++?
Hi All I've stated that there is no old good String class in libstdc++. Instead I've found the string header which defines the string class. Is it OK to use it in new C++ programs, or it is added only for compatibility? Why has it such nonstandard name (without .h suffix). TIA Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C libraries?
I'll give it away before my questions do - I'm a Linux newbie (Woohoo!). I always try to find my answers in documentation first, but I'm still stumped on this one. I have installed the .deb packages for libc5, libc6, and I think glibc2 (not at home right now). Does this mean I can run all three types of binaries? Which library will be used when I compile an app from source? Later, _) Craig McDaniel _)_) [EMAIL PROTECTED] _)_)_) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail filtering
On Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 08:46:44PM -0500, Rick Knebel wrote: This is my first exposure to smail which seems to be the default in Debian. I had no trouble setting it up. That's what you think. I'd check my From: line if I were you.
[no subject]
Last week I installed Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 Everything went (quite) well. I installed Linux, windowmanager, Netscape, connection with my ISP,... Since yesterday I am unable to login. After login I get following error message: login [128] unable to change tty '/dev/tty1' for user root Unable to change tty /dev/tty1: illegal seek I get the error message at every login (root, normal user) What is the problem? What have I done wrong? What is the solution? Paulussen Edmond
Re: OFFTOPIC: How to use strings with libstdc++?
On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 20:21:43 +0100, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: I've stated that there is no old good String class in libstdc++. String was a GNU extension; if you have code that still uses it, install the libg++ packages. Instead I've found the string header which defines the string class. Is it OK to use it in new C++ programs, Yes. It's specified in the ISO C++ standard. or it is added only for compatibility? Why has it such nonstandard name (without .h suffix). The .h suffix on a number of include files was dropped during the standardisation process. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: C libraries?
On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 02:20:17PM -0500, Craig P. McDaniel wrote: I'll give it away before my questions do - I'm a Linux newbie (Woohoo!). I always try to find my answers in documentation first, but I'm still stumped on this one. I have installed the .deb packages for libc5, libc6, and I think glibc2 (not at home right now). Does this mean I can run all three types of binaries? Which library will be used when I compile an app from source? libc6 is the same as glibc2. Debian has libc6 libraries and some other stuff end with a g on the end of the packagename to specify that it's a libc6 package. There are also things in the oldlibs/ section for old libc5 programs, so if you have those you can run libc5 apps. When you compile things, the binary will be libc6, unless you get the -altdev package, and follow the procedure to make a libc5 binary specifically. -- Rafael Kitover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acroread Hamm ???
Wayne Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Acroread work with hamm? It tells me it can't find libXt.so.6. If I set my LD_LIBRARY_PATH I get a SEGV. I do have libc5 installed. Install the xlib6 (and to be sure the xpm4.7) packages from the oldlibs section. Otherwise check the output of (in my version of acroread) of ~$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/Acrobat3/Reader/intellinux/lib ldd /usr/lib/Acrobat3/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread libreadcore.so = /usr/lib/Acrobat3/Reader/intellinux/lib/libreadcore.so (0x4000d000) libpfs.so = /usr/lib/Acrobat3/Reader/intellinux/lib/libpfs.so (0x4015f000) libagm.so = /usr/lib/Acrobat3/Reader/intellinux/lib/libagm.so (0x401e3000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4026b000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x402ad000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x402b8000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40356000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x4035f000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40362000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4042) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40429000) Your output should be quite similiar but please check if the directory /usr/lib/Acrobat3/Reader/intellinux is the same in your version: ~$ dpkg -l acroread Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii acroread3.02-0.1 Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Form Torsten BTW: In my version the dependency line seems to be correct: ldso (= 1.9.7-0), libc5 (= 5.4.0-0), xlib6 (= 3.3-0) -- Homepage: http://www.in-berlin.de/User/myrkr
Re: Newsgroups and this mailing list
ivan wrote: I may be wrong (pls correct me if so) but I believe this mail list _IS_ linked to the newsgroups. Check out linux.debian.user ivan. Somebody on this list awhile back said that the linux.* newsgroups were deprecated. In any event, not everybody can get linux.* newsgroups, because of upstream providers not carrying these groups. -- Ed C.
metamail aternative display methods?
I'd like metamail to offer me _all_ of the possible display machanisms until I say yes to one of them: In my ~/.mailcap I have: application/msword; /opt/WordPerfect8/wpbin/xwp %s application/msword; /opt/StarOffice-5.0/bin/soffice %s application/msword; word2txt %s When I view it with metamail (or mhn which calls metamail), it prompts me like so: This message contains 'application/msword'-format data. Do you want to view it using the 'xwp' command (y/n) [y] ? Only the first entry is prompted-for. It would be nice if it prompted for `soffice' if I said no to `xwp' and so on. It this possible? I couldn't find anything in the metamail or mailcap man pages, but maybe I missed it. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/
booting recalictrant machine, or tar from resc1440
I really only need tar split from this machine; i need to move large dos directories between a non-networked, phoneless win3.1 machine, and my slowly connected cdless laptop. This seems to mean copying to floppy. msbackup is, well, msbackup. After spending 15 minutes on the first disk, I gave up on it. It appeared that it would be easier to put a tiny install of linux in. I'm assuming tom's will do the job. Unfortunately, this machine has (presumably) a heat problem. It's a 94 ATT with a 486/120 added. The prior owner had sig11 problems trying to install redhat, and I'm seeing excessive segmentation violations. After several tries, I managed to get everything unpacked, though i had to untar base2_0.tgz by hand. It thinks it is fully configured, though it segfaults for each module it tries to look at. However, It cannot successfully write a boot disk or install lilo. I don't know what the error messge is on the first; it is hidden behind a dialog box. What i can see of lilo's says something about chroot. I've tried booting from resc1440 as linux root=/dev/hda2 and resc root=/dev/hda2, as well as from a bootdisk freshly made by my thinkpad with the same options. In all cases I get through boot, and a hang on unable to open initial console Any ideas? And does anyone know how to clean the filters on a power supply? I'm assuming that it isn't providing adequate cooling, and i don't see any practical way to add another fan (the card slot ram i have from compunerd (?) is a joke' when it deigns to run, it doesn't push much air). rick --
Re: [John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net: ML.ORG replacement]
On Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 01:49:20PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Since some people have requested an alternative I'm forwarding this mail from debian-user. Regards, Joey -- If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country. -- motd of irc.funet.fi Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Umm.. there is also another free dynamic dns hosting service at ddns.org. I have already packaged their linux client. apt-get install irquery. You will still need an account with them (see their webpage). Basic redirecting hostname.ddns.org - your current IP is free along with some other dynamic IP stuff. -- Robert S. Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PB] a quiet sound blaster
FYI: You might have a cdrom installed.. But I suspect it is on an IDE channel rather then on the IDE channel on the soundcard? I am not sure on AWE32 cards, but I know the AWE64 has no ide cdrom controller. So hence my card would have no sure CDROM entry in the ISAPNP.CONF file. -Original Message- From: Didier Verna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, 29 December 1998 21:02 Subject: [PB] a quiet sound blaster * My generated /etc/isapnp.conf look also very much like the example (appart from a missing -CD ROM- entry, which is surprising because I know I have a cdrom connected).
/dev/fd0
I can't seem to get my floppy drive to work under Debian. For example, when trying to format a disk with: superformat /dev/fd0 hd sect=18 I get: old capacity=12500 Measuring drive 0's raw capacity Fatal error while measuring raw capacity 0: 40 1: 01 2: 00 3: 00 4: 00 5: 01 6: 08 Wouldn't be something obvious, would it? Brent
re: snmpd (ucd) mrtg
I want to monitor other stuff with the snmpd service.. I have a config file that lists the procs or processes that I want to monitor. But I am lost how I get mrtg to monitor anything except for ppp0 and eth0 which I have it currently doing. Anyone got snmpd.conf files I can look at and also an example mrtg.conf file that will monitor stuff like diskspace, swap usage etc.. number of httpd's running and the number of mail in/out Example of what I want is on this site... http://www.linux.nu/statistik.html Thanks Michael
RE: /dev/fd0
On 29-Dec-98 Brent Hueth wrote: I can't seem to get my floppy drive to work under Debian. For example, when trying to format a disk with: superformat /dev/fd0 hd sect=18 Try something like mkfs.
debian-cd package broken? (hamm)
OK, I have a few questions. Background: We have a mirror (debian.ssc.com for those on the west coast who hadn't noticed) which makes on-site installs a breeze. However, we have employees who'd like to install Debian at home, so I thought Gee, we have a mirror, why don't I just burn a CD or two? Question 1: Why?? hamm: debian-cd_2.0.3.deb slink: debian-cd_2.0.2.deb Question 2: (the words hack and frozen both make me nervous in this context) There is a line in 'Configuration': # This is not the released version STATUS=frozen which I changed to STATUS=stable and there is a comment in 'Rules': # Create a dists/ subdir in debian/ subdir of the tmpdir. define init-dists # Hack for frozen (cd $(ARCHIVE); cp -dpRPl dists/$(STATUS) $(TMPDIR_MAIN)/debian) -ln -s $(STATUS) $(TMPDIR_MAIN)/debian/dists/stable -ln -s ../hamm $(TMPDIR_MAIN)/debian/dists/hamm endef Question/Comment 3: I want to burn a hamm CD. I execute 'make binary-i386' and /usr/src/debian-cd/Rules breaks down because it wants to copy fips15.zip and fips15c.zip, but the only file available for it is /home/ftp/pub/debian/tools/fips20.zip. OK, I fixed that. (But perhaps the script should be fixed?) Question 4: Now things move along swimmingly until mkiofs takes off. I guess it's assigning alternate file names. Here is the output, starting with the last line that looks correct to me, followed by a line that looks broken to me, and ending with the abend of the make. Using HFSUTILS.000;1 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/otherosfs/hfsutils_3.1-3.deb (hfsutils-tcltk_3.1-3.deb) Using 2_0.000 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/2.0.10_1998-07-17 (2.0.10_1998-07-21) Using RESC1440.000;1 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/2.0.10_1998-07-21/resc1440tecra-fast.bin (resc1440.bin) Using RESC1440.001;1 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/2.0.10_1998-07-21/resc1440.bin (resc1440tecra.bin) Using RESC1440.002;1 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/2.0.10_1998-07-21/resc1440tecra.bin (resc1440-fast.bin) Using RESC1440.000;1 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/2.0.10_1998-07-17/resc1440.bin (resc1440tecra.bin) Using RESC1440.000;1 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/install/resc1440tecra.bin (resc1440tecra-fast.bin) Using RESC1440.001;1 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/install/resc1440tecra-fast.bin (resc1440.bin) Using RESC1440.002;1 for /home/ftp/pub/debian/tmp/main/install/resc1440.bin (resc1440-fast.bin) Unable to open disc image file make: *** [binary-i386] Error 1 Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Pann -- Pann McCuaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 55549, Seattle, WA 98155 Technical Manager Phone: (206) 782-7733 ext 122 SSC, Inc. www.ssc.comFax: (206) 782-7191 Linux Journal www.linuxjournal.com
Re: installation frustration
On Wed, 23 Dec 1998, Bill Newman wrote: I'm an experienced Linux user. I just tried to install Debian on my Toshiba 225CDS. It was not a good out of the box experience. I think there are laptop install apps in Debian When choosing modules, the PPP module description says something that I (experienced with Linux, also some experience with SunOS and AIX system administration) couldn't understand about relying on serial.o and not being able to detect it automatically. I tried selecting the serial module by hand, but I'm still not sure that's what was intended. I took the opportunity to do a Hamm install on an old box. When you select PPP, you are told that serial support is not automatically selected and that you'll have to select it yourself. That's all. Upon rebooting the system, LILO doesn't prompt for a choice of OS, but simply loads the /dev/hda2 Linux image that the hamm install created. As I wrote earlier, that's a major unfriendliness of the Debian install procedure. Dual booting is common among Linux users and the distribution ought to have it as an installation option. Otoh, why ought the distribution assume you'll dual boot? Afaik, none of the commercial os's allow for it in their installs. I think you have a legitimate complaint about the boot/ install/ error, which is annoying but not too annoying (an install dir seems a good place to poke about during an install). It doesn't seem worth much of a fuss, though. (__)Sourcerer /()\ O|O|O|O||O||O The world hadn't ever had so many \../ |OO|||O|||O|O moving parts or so few labels. || OO|||OO||O||O -- mlo
Re: installation frustration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:53:49 -0500 (EST), Sourcerer wrote: Afaik, none of the commercial os's allow for it in their installs. Untrue. OS/2 allows you to use Boot Manager to dual boot and even points you in the right direction to do it. IIRC WinNT also does this... when installed on a machine with Win95/98. OK, that is pushing it, but it is true. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQCVAwUBNole4qC6xbtZwvdnAQG40QQAj8ETM1uf31IrRiozoqeaW2OZvj0U4N2t 4KxQIBfGGyle0Bsx/q1IINUUosIMCUXY+5PZFt9PL3jvaBhP19EVvWkySm6EE+80 KZkAmBAk3++eEcUUimeRvLJvWoBYnEoj3Sji4Pq5MUGBnHeE/VVl8jpDyQjMtr9c Y22FCVCxb0A= =H9I3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
I've got a problem installing a new Graphic Card (ELSA Gloria Synergy)
This card use the 3DLabs PERMIDIA 2 Chipset and I don't know how to run an X server from the debian 2 distribution. I know that XFree86 3.3.3 provide a new Xserver for 3DLabs Chipsets but where can I find the Debian Package for it ? There is other possibilities for me to run an Xserver without the new version of Xfree86. Thanks Andrea Zennaro
Re: ip-up ip-down
May I ask what dynipclient does? I'm setting up a tiny network at home and am going to network a Linux box (running slink) with a Windows 95 machine (my son's) and I get a dynamic IP address from my ISP. I use a PPP connection. head over to www.dynip.com, they give a better explaination than I can... but in a nutshell, for $24 a year US, they will resolve yourname.dynip.com whenever your server says hello to their dns server, via the dynip client. Its probably the cheeziest way of getting your box on the internet with a permanent address (xephic.dynip.com in my case) even if your IP address changes via DHCP from your ISP. The beauty of their particular client, is when your box is NOT on the web, their DNS server will resolve yourname.dynip.com to a page on their server, saying your server is temporarily unavailable. This is a nice way of handling this, which is why I was more than happy to pay the minimal annual fee. Other services, even if they were free, simply leave your last IP address as yours, even if your neighbor, who has the same ISP, manages to get that address when you shut your PC down. Hope that helped. I've been using them for almost 2 years, and have been very satisfied. They don't respond to email very fast unfortunately, but their software for linux, NT and Win95 is very simple to install. My only complaint with them is they don't take American Express, just MC and Visa. Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ 1993 Supercharged Lincoln Continental 1989 HMMWV 1973 Lincoln Continental (460cid) 1975 Dodge D200 3/4 ton Club Cab 2000 Buick-Powered Mid-Engined Sports Car -
Re: ip-up ip-down
How do you know? These scripts are run with stdout directed to /dev/null, so you won't see any output. I was able to determine this by having another PC, running windows, connected to the internet not being able to ping the resolved name. I had originally though, since I can't ping the box, and I didn't see any output, the program wasn't being executed properly. Turned out to be in fact true. In the ip-up and up-down scripts, I had to switch directories in order for the program to see its config file in the same directory - it doesn't use any path or environment variables ! Unfortunately, it doesn't say that anywhere in the directions, which I followed too literally apparently :( So, in ip-down for example, I ended up with the following: cd /usr/local/bin dynipclient -k cd /etc/ppp And viola, I'm all set :) Thanks for your help and support everyone! Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ 1993 Supercharged Lincoln Continental 1989 HMMWV 1973 Lincoln Continental (460cid) 1975 Dodge D200 3/4 ton Club Cab 2000 Buick-Powered Mid-Engined Sports Car -
