Re: Actualizando Debian con apt-get
El viernes 16 de abril de 1999 a la(s) 15:28:18 -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon contaba: On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 04:22:05PM -0300, Hernan Alvarez wrote: Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 herny tty4 ^^^ Alguien sabe como cambiar esto para que diga 2.1?? (Como ven no es muy grave...) edita /etc/issue y /etc/issue.net Al comprobar esto en mi sistema, me acordé del archivo /etc/debian_version y pensé si se podría poner automáticamente en el /etc/issue. El caso es que ahora me encuentro con: $ cat /etc/debian_version |hexdump 000 * 0002800 $ ls /etc/debian_version -l -rw-r--r-- 1 root root10240 ene 11 17:49 /etc/debian_version Uso Hamm y no he tocado el archivo para nada... -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User no. 87069 http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX. Linux 2.2.6 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc
Re: + de 64 Mb de memoria
El viernes 16 de abril de 1999 a la(s) 21:45:41 +0200, Ignacio J. Alonso contaba: pero el caso es que yo arranco con loadlin, ¿bastaría con añadir: c:\linux\loadlin c:\linux\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro mem=128M ?? Sí. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User no. 87069 http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX. Linux 2.2.6 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc
Re: smail/sendmail/qmail cual?
On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 08:15:21AM +0200, Manel Marin wrote: Agradecere que compartais vuestras opiniones y experiencia conmigo ;-) Hola. Yo uso sendmail porque cuando empecé con redhat sólo tenía el sendmail. Con el paso a debian, me pasé también todos los ficheros de configuración y no me calenté la cabeza. Resumiendo, que instalé sendmail por no leerme la documentación del smail (pese a que todo el mundo que conozcon con debian de dijo que era bastante sencillo). Si tienes que elegir alguno, quédate con el smail, el sendmail es un coñazo de configurar (todavía no conozco a nadie que sea capaz de decir que domina la configuración de senmail). Sobre el qmail no conozco nada. -- Un Saludo Han Solo The Rebel Alliance Conecto, luego existo. Desconecto, luego insisto. Soy usuario de infobirria+ P.D. La firma no es mía, sino de uno que trabajaba, precisamente, en M$. Vivir para ver.
Re: smail/sendmail/qmail cual?
On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Manel Marin wrote: Hola listeros, Tengo una duda existencial... Estoy usando smail porque la Debian lo instala por defecto, pero parece que to er mundo usa sendmail... Ya me corregiran si me equivoco. La seguridad en Debian es un valor que es tenido muy encuenta en todo momento. Debian por defecto sugiere las opciones más seguras y smail es mucho más seguro que sendmail. Lo que pasa es que sendmail es más flexible y permite hacer muchas cosas que no se pueden hacer con smail. He leido que sendmail es mas antiguo y que es propenso (o al menos tiene un largo historial) de fallos de seguridad. Y el que hizo el qmail parece que desafia al mundo a que le encuetren un fallo de seguridad... Agradecere que compartais vuestras opiniones y experiencia conmigo ;-) Saludos, -- Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.0) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- En caso de contestar a la lista mandame copia personal. /\ /\ Los mas importantes desarrolladores de Bases de datos \\W//están portando sus productos a Linux. Porque crees tu _|0 0|_ que será ?Yo creo que Linux es el futuro. +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+
Solucionado Diamon SpeedStar A50
Hola. Hice una pregunta sobre la SpeedStar A50, recibí respuestas que ayudaron, y ví que otros también preguntaron cosas parecidas. Así que cuento lo que hice para que funcionara la maldita tarjeta de video: 1- Instalar sí o sí el xfree 3.3.3-1. La version anterior no la contempla. 2- Crear el correspondiente XF86Config en /etc/X11. 3- Pero aún no me funcionaba correctamente, así que agregué los siguientes: Option no_accel Option Diamond Option nolinear Espero que sea de utilidad. Saludos. -- = | Dardo Sergio Botto| | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.rosario.com.ar/webs/botto.htm | =
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Re: Mas sobre GNOME
On sáb, abr 17, 1999 at 08:23:48 +0200, Jesus M. Gonzalez wrote: Me he bajado los paquetes de GNOME para Debian slink, y van de ¡Hombr!, ¡alguien que ha hecho lo mismo que yo!... es que como pregunté unas cuantas de cosas esta semana y ni caso... (indirecta) :-D miedo. Sólo una cosa: he elegido enlightenment como gestor de ventanas. ¿Cómo puedo hacer que no me muestre sus iconos? Se mezclan ¿Tienes Enlightenment 0.15?, yo lo tengo instalado del directorio de Jim y no pe ha puesto ningún icono :-/ con el panel de GNOME, y con otros iconos, y el resultado queda bastane liado... He buscado opciones en e-config, pero no he visto Pues a mi no. Lo que si me mosquea es la gran inestabilidad de gmc, alcambiar un icono de cualquier aplicación que tengas pegada al escritorio desaparece gmc y he de volver a lanzarlo, ¿te pasa a ti?. Ya se que este gnome para slink es unstable pero no se si lo que me pasa con gmc es culpa de esa 'unstabilidad' o que yo he hecho algo mal. Ya que estamos, ¿te guarda las opciones que cambies en el control-center de gnome? (sonidos, fondo de escritorio...) a mi no :-? Saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mas sobre GNOME
On 17-Apr-99 Jesus M. Gonzalez wrote: Me he bajado los paquetes de GNOME para Debian slink, y van de miedo. Sólo una cosa: he elegido enlightenment como gestor de ventanas. ¿Cómo puedo hacer que no me muestre sus iconos? Se mezclan con el panel de GNOME, y con otros iconos, y el resultado queda bastane liado... He buscado opciones en e-config, pero no he visto nada. Esto es de mucha ayuda, pero la definicion de los iconos del enlightenment depende de los themes que tengas instalados. Si quieres quitar los de abajo y los de los lados tienes que editar los temas a mano. Mira en el directorio /usr/share/enlightenment/themes/ y dentro de eso en el directorio del tema que tengas instalado. Espero que te sirva. Cesar +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Cesar Talon email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laboratorio de Bajas Temperaturas / Dpto.Física de la Materia condensada Universidad Autonoma de Madrid / Cantoblanco, E-28049 Madrid Phone: +34 91 397 4756 / Fax: +34 91 397 3961 It is very vulgar to talk like a dentist when one isn't a dentist. It produces a false impression. -- Oscar Wilde. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Re: smail/sendmail/qmail cual?
Hola El 17 Apr 1999 a las 08:15AM +0200, Manel Marin escribio: Hola listeros, Tengo una duda existencial... Estoy usando smail porque la Debian lo instala por defecto, pero parece que to er mundo usa sendmail... Yo no. Yo uso también smail. Sendmail me parecio mas dificilillo que smail, y al fin y al cabo, para enviar y recibir correo de un usuario (yo), tanto da. Poco mas te puedo contar. Te respondo por si te sirve como estadistica. Saludos. -- 04/17 An unexpected party (LOTR) 04/17 Bay of Pigs invasion crushed by Castro forces, 1961 04/18 Einstein's Death, 1955 04/18 First Laundromat opens, Fort Worth Texas, 1934 04/18 San Francisco earthquake, 1906 -- Andres Seco Hernandez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh urgente: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave publica PGP en http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver -- Microsoft Certified Product Specialist MCP ID 445900 Debian GNU Linux 2.0 (hamm) - Linux Registered User no. 113867 -- pgpf9BXdQWmJr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Logotipo de Debian
Guenas On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 02:18:06AM +0200, Hue-Bond wrote: ¿Por que no, Hue? ¿No quieres que cambien el pollito? (es en tono cariñoso :-))) Noo! Yo no quiero que lo cambien!! Yo quiero seguir con mi amorcito!! ;-) Hombre, la verdad es que podrian cambiarlo por algo con mas empaque, mas facil de identificar. Eso si, por favor, cada de pinguinos al uso, que, por lo menos en España, ultimamente estan demado vistos. ¿Al uso? Me temo que no pillo :-/ Hombreee, que no sea el pinguino de siempre, que tenga algo diferente. A ver si se da con algo original, pero sin pasarse. Saludines -- -- POWERED BY Linux. Debian 2.0 - Kernel 2.2.5 - User reg. 66054 Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antequera (Malaga) - Spain Grupo LIMA (Asociacion de Usuarios de Linux de Malaga) http://iaeste.cie.uma.es/lima
Re: Mas sobre GNOME
Hola. Yo lo he instalado entre ayer y hoy. Me he bajado un montón de paquetes. Alguno me he fijado que está con problemas de dependencias, pero bueno, esos fallos son casi lógicos dado que están en fase unstable. La cosa es que me funciona casi todo, pero me he fijado que muchos textos (gtk-labels) no me salen. Por ejemplo en los menús, en opciones de ventanas de configuración, en los label de los notebooks, etc ... Uh, oh !! Ahora mismo estoy cayendo en la cuenta de que todas las etiquetas que digo tienen tilde. Lo sé porque lo he comprobado con el editor de menúes de Gnome. Es decir, en el editor de menúes veo todos los menúes y fuera de él no los veo. ¿Alguien me puede ayudar? Un saludo a todos y gracias. Juan Carlos pd.- Voy a probar el gnome-apt. ¿Creeis que será fiable usarlo tan pronto? ;-)
Re: Mas sobre GNOME
On dom, abr 18, 1999 at 04:28:54 +0200, Juan Carlos Muro wrote: Hola. Yo lo he instalado entre ayer y hoy. Me he bajado un montón de paquetes. ¡26 Mb del ala! :-D Alguno me he fijado que está con problemas de dependencias, pero bueno, Ups eso no me ha pasado a mi. esos fallos son casi lógicos dado que están en fase unstable. La cosa es que me funciona casi todo, pero me he fijado que muchos textos (gtk-labels) no me salen. Por ejemplo en los menús, en opciones de ventanas de configuración, en los label de los notebooks, etc ... Oye eso no me ha pasado a mi... no se no se. Uh, oh !! Ahora mismo estoy cayendo en la cuenta de que todas las etiquetas que digo tienen tilde. Lo sé porque lo he comprobado con el editor de menúes de Gnome. Es decir, en el editor de menúes veo todos los menúes y fuera de él no los veo. ¿?¿? ¿Alguien me puede ayudar? :-? pd.- Voy a probar el gnome-apt. ¿Creeis que será fiable usarlo tan pronto? ;-) Yo ya lo tengo rulando. Dado que tengo copias de seguridad de la base de dpkg no me preocupa el tema demasiado. Tiene muy buena pinta pero desde mi punto de vista ha de mejorarse bastante el tema de la configuración de las fuentes (de donde se toman los paquetes). Saludos. P.D: ¿Te guarda a ti la conf realizada con el control-center de gnome?, a mi no :-/// -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Framebuffer y mis ojos
Holas! Resulta ha he añadido el soporte Vesa para la consola con un kernel 2.2.x pero... he visto que sólo admite refrescos a 60 Hz :( El problemón es que yo estoy acostumbrado a trabajar con un refresco de 120 Hz o más y, caro, comprenderéis, que gastarme lo que megastao en la pantalla pa 60 parpadeantes herzios ;) Bueno, el caso es que casi que me decantaría más hacia SVGAText, pero... tengo una banshee y no sé hasta qué punto está soportado, estuve haciendo pruebas y lo máximo que he consegudo son calidades de texto muy guapas pero con basura por tos los laos. Estaría interesado en poder escribir en consola a 132*50 a proximadamente con un refresco de unos 100Hz (eso taria bien). ¿Alguien en la lista tiene alguna experiencia similar o sabe por donde podría disparar los tiros pa dar al blanco? ¿Quizá tengo que definir los clocks de la bnahsee? ¿que clocks tiene la banshee? Bua con lo wapa que era mi Mach64 bua Ta luego! -- ** En un mundo sin fronteras ni murallas... ¿¿!! Pa quieres las Puertas y Ventanas 'Soy un Boina Verde de la Debian' Firmado: *Dakota*
Re: ip-up /ip-down
On dom, abr 18, 1999 at 12:29:22 +0100, Javier Ramirez wrote: Anteriormente tenía instalada le RedHat 5.2 y para automatizar la ejecución de programas y/o scripts al producirse la conexión a INTERNET bastaba con editar el archivo /etc/ppp/ip-up.local. Ahora tengo la debian 2.0 y veo que la cosa funciona ligeramente diferente. ¿Dónde puedo obtener información sobre el tema? ¿Hay algún HOWTO o FAQ? En caso contrario ¿algún alma caritativa me haría un sencillo resumen? Realmente fácil: *Para automatizar las tareas a lanzar cuando inicies la conexión con el servidor, pon shell-scripts, perl-scripts o el ejecutable que desees en el directorio '/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/'. Si hay varios ficheros en este directorio se ejecutarán por orden alfabético comenzando por los números, seguido de las mayúsculas y luego las minúsculas. Ejemplo (mi sistema) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -l /etc/ppp/ip-up.d total 6 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root35 abr 8 02:09 000jlclient (DNS dinámica) -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root43 sep 20 1998 00wmppp (necesario wmppp) -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 476 abr 6 16:44 01pon_correo (bajar correo) -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 536 abr 6 16:44 timofometro (monitor gasto) -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root21 mar 5 21:17 zz_news (bajar noticias) *Para automatizar las tareas a 'matar' cuando termines la conexión con tu servidor ponlas en '/etc/ppp/ip-down.d/' y se ejecutarán siguiendo el mismo criterio. Ejemplo (mi sistema) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -l /etc/ppp/ip-down.d total 4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root86 sep 20 1998 00wmppp (necesario wmppp) -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 249 dic 14 17:34 correo_poff (mato demonio) -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 267 abr 18 21:15 timofometro (escribo log gasto) Lógicamente el comentario entre paréntesis al final de cada línea es eso, un comentario puesto a pelo por mi. Un ejemplo de script de '/etc/ppp/ip-up.d' puede ser el de bajar correo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/01pon_correo #!/bin/sh # --- Coger/Enviar el correo --- # Normalmente tardo entre 5 y 10 segundos en hacer la conexión, así que ... #sleep 10 killall -v -9 tail # Mato el proceso del tail anterior /usr/sbin/sendmail -q # Mando el correo en la cola # Llamo a fetchmail (lo lanzo como demonio que mira el buzón del servidor) # cada 60 segundos. Mantengo un fichero de log: fetchmail -d 60 -k --protocol POP3 -v -L $HOME/etc/fetchmail.log # Voy viendo el log de lo que hace fetchmail en la consola 9 (tail -f $HOME/etc/fetchmail.log /dev/tty9) Un ejemplo de script de '/etc/ppp/ip-down.d' puede ser el de matar el demonio de fetchmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/correo_poff #!/bin/sh # # Finalizando tareas de correo al desconectarme de Internet # # Mato el proceso de fetchmail: fetchmail -v --quit killall -v -9 tail A mi con saber esto me basta y te aseguro que me resulta mucho más cómodo gestionar las tareas en scripts independientes que en un sólo fichero. Saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printing in Color
How can I get my printer to print in color? I print a page from Netscape and select lpr as the printer. Everything prints fine, but it prints in B/W. Printer is an Epson Stylus 850. Printcap is set up to refer to 3 magicfilters (ie. 3 printers all pointing to same dev): stylus800-filter (this is default) stylus_color_360dpi-filter stylus_color_720dpi-filter I assume I need the above to print in different dpi settings? Any assistance greatly appreciated - TIA == Jan M.- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint:397D 093C E802 964E 5316 B90A 93CE 6696 Thought for the day: I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
SHELL environment variable.
I was always under the impression that the SHELL envirinment variable was supposed to point to the _current_ shell. In my setup at least, it doesn't. It _always_ points to the login shell (I change to a different shell but the variable remains the same). Bug, feature, user error? Any comments or suggestions welcome. TIA == Jan M.- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint:397D 093C E802 964E 5316 B90A 93CE 6696 Thought for the day: Having your back scratched is not the only reason to be married, but it is a good one, especially for those spots that are so hard to reach by yourself. -- Maureen Johnson, 'To Sail Beyond the Sunset' (Robert Heinlein)
Re: New Kernel install (II)
Thanks everyone, I got lilo dual booting the two kernels. I'm having some trouble since the new kernel does not recognize hdd as a block device, and therefore I can't mount my iomega zip drive. I've checked both /boot/config-2.0.35 and /boot/config-2.0.34, and this might be the cause: # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set I thought this kernel option was this other kernel option was the one for the zip drive: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=y Also, during booting I'm getting some warnings: can't locate modules... one of them is vfat, but I can mount a floppy with `mount -t vfat ...' ??? another is cdrom, but I can mount cdrom. I ran lsmod and got: homega:/boot$ lsmod Module PagesUsed by Are there no modules loaded??? Last, if I try to mount a DOS formatted disk, it mounts but: homega:~# mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy Unable to load NLS charset cp437(nls_cp437) ^^^ ??? and the same for `mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy' `mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy' is working ok. -- Claves - GnuPG/PGP - Keys : http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver o/or Envía un mensaje vacío a [EMAIL PROTECTED] con la línea de asunto: Send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject line: Tipo de Clave/Key Type Asunto:/Subject: DSA/ElGamal fetch dsa/elgamal DSS/Diffie-Hellman fetch dh/dss RSA fetch rsa
Where is xserver 3.3.3 or higher
Just installed Debian 2.1 from distribution CD. Couldn't find xserver 3.3.3 anywhere (on CD or from debian mirrors). Does anyone know where I can download the debian package for XFree86 3.3.3? Please cc me on the reply, as I am not subscribed to the list. Thanks. -- Ke Huang -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/AUX
On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, John Foster wrote: Michael Beattie wrote: Sorry, stupid question, I just decided to change to a PS/2 mouse, but I dont have the faintest about how to set it up. kernel recompile? --- YEP! probably a good time to upgrade to 2.2.5 :-) It's too late for that: $ uname -a Linux bob 2.2.6 #1 Fri Apr 16 19:57:45 MST 1999 i586 unknown Ouch... well, Im not going that far, yet, Ive been told my VX/Pro MB wont like the 2.2 series very much... but a simple upgrade to 2.0.36 with PS/2 enabled sorted things... My only question.. how do I increase the mouse speed in X? gpm was easy. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 005 Multitasking attempted - System confused - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Pine question
You may want to check into the roles feature in the latest pine. Look for it in the first configuration menu. On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Bruce Sass wrote: Hmmm, Try editing /etc/{passwd,group,shadow,gshadow} manually, (make backups first!) then cd /home;mv ian iehrenwald, followed by chown * on-every-file-with-ian-permissions (* == iehrenwald | .iehrenwald | iehrenwald.iehrenwald ). Maybe it is simpler to create a new account for iehrenwald on your machine, then use it to do your mail. - Bruce -- On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, iehrenwald wrote: Hi everyone, I am using pine to read/send mail. I am also using a dial-up connection for my Internet access. My login name for my machine is 'ian'. My account on my ISP is 'iehrenwald'. How do I get pine to send mail from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and not '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or whatever it is at now? I tried playing with the passwd file using chfn but that didn't seem to do it? Anyone have some ideas? Thanks. --Ian Ehrenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: New Kernel install
On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 02:07:14PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all this is correct so far, what's the point in running lilo to update it? Because LILO makes reference to the absolute location on disk of the vmlinuz file (at the far end of the symlink) in the boot code it writes out. Changing the symlinks makes no difference on its own; LILO knows nothing about ext2fs file systems or symlinks. No need to copy .config over; that's just for convenience. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: Pine question
Find this entry in .pinerc: # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list= add allow-changing-from like this: feature-list=allow-changing-from This will allow you to use a customized header that is unrelated to your local user account. Next, find this entry: # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) # when composing customized-hdrs= Modify it like so: customized-hdrs=From: Any Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your copy of Pine must have been compiled to allow changing from. I think that is the default. iehrenwald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 17 April 1999 03:14: I am using pine to read/send mail. I am also using a dial-up connection for my Internet access. My login name for my machine is 'ian'. My account on my ISP is 'iehrenwald'. How do I get pine to send mail from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and not '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or whatever it is at now? I tried playing with the passwd file using chfn but that didn't seem to do it? Anyone have some ideas? Thanks.
Re: abiword troubles: improperly installed fonts
In foo.debian-user, you wrote: Running an old AcceleratedX 3.1 Mostly hamm, with slink and potato stuff mixed in, but dpkg is happy. abiword complains about improperly installed fonts. I tried the following as per the /usr/doc/abiword/unix_fonts.txt.gz file: xset fp+ /usr/share/abiword export ABIWORD_FONTPATH=/usr/share/abiword But still no go. Any suggestions? Install the abiword-fonts package. -Mitch
Re: how to reset the console?
On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 09:06:38PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 02:48:00PM +0200, Ookhoi wrote: Cool. :-) So now we have: reset stty sane ctrl-v esc c to restore a messed up text interface. Groetjes, Ookhoi don't forget setfont - maybe we can start a collection :) But the original question referred to an svgalib messed up console which is quite a bit different. Ivan. In particular, it's different in that none of those did me any good :(. svgalib comes with a couple of utils called textmode and savetextmode that are supposed to help in exactly my situation ... but the man page says: You do this by being a smart guy and running savetextmode right after booting of your machine, prior to any prob lems. Unluckily for me, I'm not a smart guy. these are both scripts for a couple of restoration utils that take a previous config from a file and reinstate it -- but I have made no such file. My question at this point: is there such a file on my system? could I create one? Or should I just break down and reboot again? If it helps, running textmode at this point changes the multicolored static pattern blinking on my textmode screens to a red static pattern blinking on my screen. Thanks again for the help. Please Cc: to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob -- It's computer hardware, of course it's worth having g -- Espy on #Debian
Re:SIOCADDRT error
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: hi Vaidhy, i also got the same error as u guys did, that is, i got it after i upgraded from 2.0.36 to 2.2.4. do u think that same fix'll still work fo= r I get the same error booting the 2.2.1 kernel; somehow I missed the fix, please repost or advise. Thanx Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looking for trouble.
There doesn't seem to be a special group for Debian Newbies, so I hope y'all don't mind me bringing up some questions here. I did a lot of reading on Linux and Debian, but I now have a copy of Debian 2.1 and am trying to get a system up. Background: Dutch, teacher, location: Taiwan, 32, shortwave DXer. System1: Pentium 200MMX, 64 MB RAM, 3.2+6.1 GB HD, S3 Trio64, Soundblaster AWE64. System2: Twinhead Slimnote 486-33, 8 MB RAM, 305 MB HD, VGA monochrome monitor. What I did sofar: Installed Debian 2.1 with base system on the Twinhead, with 9 floppies. Aim: Connect a parallel port CD-ROM (Shuttle EPIA) and install the rest of the system. Remarks: I cleaned the HD and reformatted it as one partition (305 MB). However, Debian 2.1 installation couldn't get cfdisk going and thus I used the second console to manually partition and set the swap. Questions: 1) What is an easy way to go to the previous directory, e.g. I am in /usr/bin and want to go to /usr? 2) With the base system installed I can't open man pages, that is, when typing man ls for example, the system returns with command not found. In /bin and /sbin I also can't see any man-binary. There are man pages stored, but in .gz format. Is it normal that the man command is not installed? How to open/read .gz files. 3) I tried to create some scripts, very simple ones, but they refuse to run, or the system says command not found. Example: #! /bin/bash # echo The time and date is.. date Saved as telltime, then mode changed with chmod -v u+x telltime. With cat I can still see the contents of the file as plain text. Is this normal? As said, when executing telltime the system returns command not found. I know that you have to watch the path, but even when I put this script in / or /bin it still won't run, while installed commands like date do run from almost every directory. What do I do wrong? 4) Any hints to where to find some in dept Debian specific FAQs? I know there is a lot around, and believe me I've been reading, but most tutorials/FAQs assume that the system is running smoothly and hardly deal with problem solving. Thanks for the help. Hans I was riding on the e-train I was whistling to the rhythm I was thinking 'bout my livin' I was feeling pretty fineI asked the time .Got a poke in the eye. (Sheryl Crow, The Globe Sessions)
Re: Looking for trouble.
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 02:34:57PM +0800, Hans van den Boogert wrote: There doesn't seem to be a special group for Debian Newbies, so I hope y'all don't mind me bringing up some questions here. Don't worry; this is a large part of what this mailinglist is here for. And we're glad that you RTFMed before you got here G. Background: Dutch, teacher, location: Taiwan, 32, shortwave DXer. System1: Pentium 200MMX, 64 MB RAM, 3.2+6.1 GB HD, S3 Trio64, Soundblaster AWE64. System2: Twinhead Slimnote 486-33, 8 MB RAM, 305 MB HD, VGA monochrome monitor. Questions: 1) What is an easy way to go to the previous directory, e.g. I am in /usr/bin and want to go to /usr? Try cd ~-. 2) With the base system installed I can't open man pages, that is, when typing man ls for example, the system returns with command not found. In /bin and /sbin I also can't see any man-binary. There are man pages stored, but in .gz format. Is it normal that the man command is not installed? How to open/read .gz files. The man reader is in the package man-db; run apt-get install man-db to install it if you are connected to the 'net. If you just want to read some random textual .gz file, run zless on it -- it's in the package zgip, but you need the package less to run it. (Install them with apt-get too.) 3) I tried to create some scripts, very simple ones, but they refuse to run, or the system says command not found. Example: From the following (cut), it looks like it, but did you try ./telltime? 4) Any hints to where to find some in dept Debian specific FAQs? I know there is a lot around, and believe me I've been reading, but most tutorials/FAQs assume that the system is running smoothly and hardly deal with problem solving. Try http://www.debain.org/doc/ -- I did just look, and there isn't much with problem solving there. One of the few bad things about the current state of Linux is that there aren't detailed problem-solving docs around -- perhaps it has somthing to do with the incidance rate of such problems. -=- James Mastros -- My friend Data: You see the world with the wonder of a child, and that makes you more human then any of us. -=- Lt. Tasha Yar, upon the occasion of her death.
Dayly cron job
Hi all: I've set up a dayly cron job to run at 11 pm. It's supposed to gzip some files on the system. It seems like if the computer is turned off at 11 pm, the job never gets done. Shouldn't it run as soon as the computer is powered on in case that it never got to run because it was off? Thanks! p.s. Output of my crontab -l: # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. # (/tmp/crontab.a01994 installed on Fri Apr 16 16:31:27 1999) # (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $) 1 23 * * * gzip -r9 ~/Mail/mail/*/[0-9]* -- Arcady Genkin I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood... - GsYDE
Re: misconfigured exim?
I just started having a similar problem this weekend. Mail delivery prior to Friday evening had been fine, then this started happening: SyberSpace:/# exim -v -qf Single queue run LOG: 0 MAIN Start queue run: pid=1429 delivering message 10YYbE-00015f-00 (queue run pid 1429) Connecting to mail.flex.net [207.70.185.245] ... connected SMTP 220 tron.flex.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:55:24 -0500 SMTP EHLO SyberSpace SMTP 250-tron.flex.net Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] [207.18.136.83], pleased to meet you 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 1000 250-DSN 250-ONEX 250-ETRN 250-XUSR 250 HELP SMTP MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1473 SMTP 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain must resolve SMTP QUIT LOG: 0 MAIN == [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp defer (0): SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1473: host mail.flex.net [207.70.185.245]: 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain must resolve delivering message 10YlQB-Lz-00 (queue run pid 1429) Connecting to mail.flex.net [207.70.185.245] ... connected SMTP 220 tron.flex.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:55:25 -0500 SMTP EHLO SyberSpace SMTP 250-tron.flex.net Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] [207.18.136.83], pleased to meet you 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 1000 250-DSN 250-ONEX 250-ETRN 250-XUSR 250 HELP SMTP MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1473 SMTP 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain must resolve SMTP QUIT LOG: 0 MAIN == [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp defer (0): SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1473: host mail.flex.net [207.70.185.245]: 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain must resolve LOG: 0 MAIN End queue run: pid=1429 == I've run eximconfig to make sure I'm set-up to use my ISP as a smarthost (first set of options, #2 - Internet site using smarthost),set the 'visible name' to flex.net, and added 'localhost. This is the result: Mail generated on this system will have `flex.net' used as the domain part (after the @) in the From: field and similar places. The following domain(s) will be recognised as referring to this system: flex.net, localhost Mail for postmaster, root, etc. will be sent to srgore. Local mail is delivered. Outbound remote mail is sent via mail.flex.net. == In exim.conf: qualify_domain = flex.net local_domains = flex.net:localhost local_domains_include_host = true local_domains_include_host_literals = true never_users = root host_lookup_nets = 0.0.0.0/0 sender_host_accept_relay = localhost trusted_users = mail smtp_verify = false gecos_pattern = ^([^,:]*) gecos_name = $1 smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 100 (...some stuff I'm pretty sure doesn't affect delivery...) address_reply: driver = autoreply remote_smtp: driver = smtp (...more stuff clipped...) smarthost: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = * mail.flex.net bydns_a == I have talked to a friend (sysadm) who claims ISP's are moving toward requiring users to have a FQDN, is this true? My hostname (SyberSpace) was just a spur-of-the-moment decision at install time, and has caused no probs till now. What?! 02:20! I've got to get some sleep. Thanks, Steve Gore Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: Dayly cron job
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 03:30:58AM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I've set up a dayly cron job to run at 11 pm. It's supposed to gzip some files on the system. It seems like if the computer is turned off at 11 pm, the job never gets done. Shouldn't it run as soon as the computer is powered on in case that it never got to run because it was off? Install anacron package :) Mirek
Re: Printing in Color
I think that you may wish to use the -Pprinter option in lpr. Note that you may need to edit the stylus_color... filters to make them work properly. See /usr/doc/gs-aladdin/Devices.htm (or equivalent for gs) to find out about the options (good luck: it looks a bit involved). It might be worth just trying what you have, and only trying to understand these options if that doesn't work. HTH Rich Jan Muszynski wrote: How can I get my printer to print in color? I print a page from Netscape and select lpr as the printer. Everything prints fine, but it prints in B/W. Printer is an Epson Stylus 850. Printcap is set up to refer to 3 magicfilters (ie. 3 printers all pointing to same dev): stylus800-filter (this is default) stylus_color_360dpi-filter stylus_color_720dpi-filter I assume I need the above to print in different dpi settings? Any assistance greatly appreciated - TIA == Jan M.- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint:397D 093C E802 964E 5316 B90A 93CE 6696 Thought for the day: I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Network problems with Vortex Adapter
I have had similar problems with 3c905b. The trouble is propbably that the PCI card is in the first PCI slot, the bios has problems reporting it to the kernel. Check the /proc/pci what irq it has, if no irq is shown than its the PCI slot. You can either change position of the card or turn PCI to manual in the bios, and assigning a free irq to that card. On thr other hand you could be lucky and have just misconfigured. make sure that the correct module is loaded then go to /etc/init.d/networks and check that the values are correct. /nisse On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Karl Gordon wrote: Hi I'm running Hamm on a Micron Millenia XKU 333 with a 3Com Etherlink 905B PCI installed. The kernel is configured with the correct Vortex driver but the adapter does not connect with or even see the other machines on the network. It has the correct IP address and can 'ping' itself but no other machine can ping it or vice versa. I tried moving it around in the machine but that doesn't work either. I down loaded the latest version of the driver and re-compiled the kernel and nothing. HELP -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Mutt question
Hi, I was wondering how to use mutt to configure a folder called sent-mail, and then on a monthly basis, move the sent-mail to sent-mail-date and create a new sent mail folder, just like what pine has got. thx. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
How to bring a file from Windows to Debian?
Hi! Yesterday I downloaded the new SVGA_Server in order to letwork my Diamond Viper V550. I burned the File on my RW. Who can help mehow to copying the file in the corresponding directory? Thanks a lot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendmail - aliases problem
Hi, I have installed sendmail, but when I use newaliases I get (after aprox. 2 minutes) the following warning: WARNING: local host name (kuijf) is not qualified: fix $j in config file /etc/aliases: 6 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 86 bytes total Sendmail is very too. All sendmail actions (starting up, sending mail) take about 2 minutes each. All help is appreciated, Robert-Jan Kuijvenhoven -- Download ICQ at http://www.icq.com
From hdr in mutt
Hi, mutt by default displays my local username as the email address in the From field. I tried to change this with the alternative variable. But it still doesn't work. Can anyone please help?? Thx. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: From hdr in mutt
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 08:16:50PM +1000, Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, mutt by default displays my local username as the email address in the From field. I tried to change this with the alternative variable. But it still doesn't work. Can anyone please help?? Straight from my .muttrc: set realname=Eric Gillespie, Jr. unset use_from my_hdr From: \$realname\ \[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you try to out-weird me! I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal! --Zaphod Beeblebrox
Re: Debian vs. RedHat
On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 11:04:53PM +0100, Matt wrote: Dan Nguyen wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], : Luca Filipozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : :It's unfortunate that the Debian install is difficult in comparison to : :RedHat. Having just switched to Debian 2.1 from RH 5.2, I think the Debian install is easier and more informative. H, is it just me being too dumb ? I didn't manage to install slink (5 CD-Set/german bookstore Lehmanns). Two hours of selecting packages and fighting dependencies and then. internal error - no filename at -e line 13 P chunk 14 And more informative than RH ? I didn't realize any informations about the required diskspace. I'm running Linux for four+ years and installed Slackware, DLD, RH 3.0.3, 4.1, 5.0, SuSE 5.1, 5.3, 6.0 but. Dselect is a major problem, however it's actually not that bad. I have no problems with dselect. Its just a case of getting used to it. I prefer dselect to RH's glint. In fact after using Debian for about a week now I'm not changing back to RH (or SUSE for that matter). I also see that some here have trouble with Cheapbyte CD's. I must be lucky with mine as the install went perfectly, first time. My only slight grumble is that Debian does not have a detailed LILO setup during the install. Then again, its fun reading the docs and figuring it out yourself. Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null vy 73, -- Stephan Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DG1EES -- amprnet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Essen, Germany6°E 56.479' 51°N 28.040' [JO31LL]
Re: how to reset the console?
If it's any good to you Rob, I could run savetextmode on my machine and post it to you. I'd hate to see you lose your uptime :) Can anyone on the list see a reason why this wouldn't work ? Ivan. On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 01:58:03AM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 09:06:38PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 02:48:00PM +0200, Ookhoi wrote: Cool. :-) So now we have: reset stty sane ctrl-v esc c to restore a messed up text interface. Groetjes, Ookhoi don't forget setfont - maybe we can start a collection :) But the original question referred to an svgalib messed up console which is quite a bit different. Ivan. In particular, it's different in that none of those did me any good :(. svgalib comes with a couple of utils called textmode and savetextmode that are supposed to help in exactly my situation ... but the man page says: You do this by being a smart guy and running savetextmode right after booting of your machine, prior to any prob lems. Unluckily for me, I'm not a smart guy. these are both scripts for a couple of restoration utils that take a previous config from a file and reinstate it -- but I have made no such file. My question at this point: is there such a file on my system? could I create one? Or should I just break down and reboot again? If it helps, running textmode at this point changes the multicolored static pattern blinking on my textmode screens to a red static pattern blinking on my screen. Thanks again for the help. Please Cc: to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob -- It's computer hardware, of course it's worth having g -- Espy on #Debian -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Looking for trouble.
Hans van den Boogert wrote: 1) What is an easy way to go to the previous directory, e.g. I am in /usr/bin and want to go to /usr? To go to the parent directory: cd .. To go to the directory you were in last: cd ~- 2) With the base system installed I can't open man pages, that is, when typing man ls for example, the system returns with command not found. In /bin and /sbin I also can't see any man-binary. There are man pages stored, but in .gz format. Is it normal that the man command is not installed? How to open/read .gz files. man is not part of the base system, which has to fit on a few floppies; install man-db 3) I tried to create some scripts, very simple ones, but they refuse to run, or the system says command not found. Example: #! /bin/bash # echo The time and date is.. date Saved as telltime, then mode changed with chmod -v u+x telltime. With cat I can still see the contents of the file as plain text. Is this normal? As said, when executing telltime the system returns command not found. I know that you have to watch the path, but even when I put this script in / or /bin it still won't run, while installed commands like date do run from almost every directory. What do I do wrong? On the face of it you are doing the right thing, and it ought to run from /bin, if your path is normal. To see what your path is, type `echo $PATH'. The normal place to put home-grown commands is /usr/local/bin, or ~/bin (~/ is your own home directory). These directories should be in your path. The command `type' will tell you where the system thinks a command is: $ type telltime telltime is hashed (./telltime) $ type ar ar is /usr/bin/ar Sometimes you may find that the system is looking at a file you weren't expecting. 4) Any hints to where to find some in dept Debian specific FAQs? I know there is a lot around, and believe me I've been reading, but most tutorials/FAQs assume that the system is running smoothly and hardly deal with problem solving. You want the Debian Tutorial: links from documentation on www.debian.org -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8,9
Re: Looking for trouble.
Can't help you much, but some of the smaller questions I can answer. On 18 Apr 99, at 14:34, Hans van den Boogert wrote about Looking for trouble.: [snipped to conserve bandwidth] Questions: 1) What is an easy way to go to the previous directory, e.g. I am in /usr/bin and want to go to /usr? try cd .. This will take you to the parent directory of any directory you're in. Another handy shortcut along these lines is cd - this will take you to the most recent directory you were in. For example - you're in /etc and you issue a cd /usr/src you're now in /usr/src; if you issue a cd - you will end up in /etc, if you then issue another cd - you will be back in /usr/src 2) With the base system installed I can't open man pages, that is, when [snipped to conserve bandwidth] installed? How to open/read .gz files. you need to get the man page package installed - catch22 :) I'm not sure if you have gzip, gunzip installed at this point or not. if so you can issue a gunzip name.gz to unzip the file, then look at the file, then followed by a gzip name to zip it up again (don't forget this last step). 3) I tried to create some scripts, very simple ones, but they refuse to run, or the system says command not found. Example: [snipped to conserve bandwidth] Saved as telltime, then mode changed with chmod -v u+x telltime. With cat I can still see the contents of the file as plain text. Is this normal? As said, when executing telltime the system returns yes - it is normal command not found. I know that you have to watch the path, but try - while in directory with script, issuing ./telltime I'm not sure what your current path is. Issue an echo $PATH to find out. even when I put this script in / or /bin it still won't run, while installed commands like date do run from almost every directory. What do I do wrong? try, while in the directory with the script, issuing ./telltime 4) Any hints to where to find some in dept Debian specific FAQs? I know there is a lot around, and believe me I've been reading, but most tutorials/FAQs assume that the system is running smoothly and hardly deal with problem solving. That's because no-one ever has any problems to solve VBG It appears that most of the Debian specific stuff is still in the process of being written, and they probably want to get all the base documentation down first. Thanks for the help. what little it was - you're welcome. == Jan M.- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint:397D 093C E802 964E 5316 B90A 93CE 6696 Thought for the day: Only someone who understands something absolutely can explain it so no one else can understand it. -- Rudnicki's Nobel Prize Principle
Re: Debian vs. RedHat
On 18 Apr 99, at 12:31, Stephan Goldenberg wrote about Re: Debian vs. RedHat: On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 11:04:53PM +0100, Matt wrote: Dan Nguyen wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], : Luca Filipozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : :It's unfortunate that the Debian install is difficult in comparison to : :RedHat. Having just switched to Debian 2.1 from RH 5.2, I think the Debian install is easier and more informative. H, is it just me being too dumb ? I didn't manage to install slink (5 CD-Set/german bookstore Lehmanns). Two hours of selecting packages and fighting dependencies and then. internal error - no filename at -e line 13 P chunk 14 This newbie found it easy just selecting one of the pre-configured installs. You can then fine tune the package selection after the initial configuration is installed (this can of course take days, weeks, maybe months or years :) ). This then amounts to 1 or 2 minutes deciding which configuration to install (based on needs/wants), and no fighting of dependencies. You can, of course, take longer to decide which configuration to install by checking the complete list of packages installed with each configuration etc. And more informative than RH ? I didn't realize any informations about the required diskspace. The pre-selected configurations do give information about required diskspace. [snipped to conserve bandwidth] TTFN == Jan M.- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint:397D 093C E802 964E 5316 B90A 93CE 6696 Thought for the day: Never look down to test the ground before taking your next step; only he who keeps his eye fixed on the far horizon will find his right road. -- Dag Hammarskjold
Re: How to bring a file from Windows to Debian?
Sebastian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yesterday I downloaded the new SVGA_Server in order to let work my Diamond Viper V550. I burned the File on my RW. Who can help me how to copying the file in the corresponding directory? Thanks a lot Hi Sebastian: You have two choices. One is use mtools, the other is to mount the drive, and use Linux. If you have mtools installed, and configured (mine was configured out of the box): mcopy C:/filename . This is a bit for bit copy, meaning, this is for binary files. If your file is cr-lf delimited text, you need to use mcopy -t C:/filename . which will convert the cr-lf to CR. Conversely, you can mount the file system. On my system, Windows is on /dev/sda1. As root, mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt If you don't have vfat (long file names) on your Windows system, then use msdos instead of vfat for the file system. Your Windows system's files will appear under /mnt. (NB There is no lf to cr-lf conversion here.) One thing: your message had a very long line, it will help those of us who use text mailers (PINE, etc) for you to press return every 70 characters or so. Some mail composers generate local cr but don't insert them into the file. --David David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software support should be free, timely, useful, technically accurate, and friendly. (I hope this is all of the above.)
Re: Dayly cron job
What you're asking for is something that's a part of anacron, a completely different package. cron just calls whatever when the system clock hits the given time--if the system clock doesn't hit the time, cron doesn't do the scheduled event. anacron will call jobs that have been missed due to downtime. (anacron is in the main/hardware/admin directory) On 18 Apr 1999, Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I've set up a dayly cron job to run at 11 pm. It's supposed to gzip some files on the system. It seems like if the computer is turned off at 11 pm, the job never gets done. Shouldn't it run as soon as the computer is powered on in case that it never got to run because it was off? Thanks! p.s. Output of my crontab -l: # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. # (/tmp/crontab.a01994 installed on Fri Apr 16 16:31:27 1999) # (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $) 1 23 * * * gzip -r9 ~/Mail/mail/*/[0-9]* -- Arcady Genkin I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood... - GsYDE -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: Mutt question
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 07:37:31PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, I was wondering how to use mutt to configure a folder called sent-mail, and then on a monthly basis, move the sent-mail to sent-mail-date and create a new sent mail folder, just like what pine has got. thx. Regarding creating a sent-mail folder, use the record variable to specify a folder which gets copies of outgoing mail. For example, in my .muttrc, I have: set folder =~/.mail set mbox=~/.mail/inbox set postponed =~/.mail/postponed set record =~/.mail/outbox set spoolfile =~/.mail/inbox Now, when it comes to moving it every month - mutt is constantly fighting against mail client bloat, so if you ask about this on one of the mutt mailing lists, the official answer is: Use cron, it's designed to do things exactly like this, it works, and it means we don't have to inflate the mail client anymore. So basically, just set up a quick monthly cron job that moves your sent-mail folder out of the way and touches a new one. -- Ian Peters I never let schooling interfere with my education. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Twain
Re: How to bring a file from Windows to Debian?
Sebastian: I hoped my first answer was useful and friendly. Friendly, perhaps, but the first answer wasn't too helpful. Sorry. I answered this for Windows / MS DOS file systems, not for RW (I assume CD-RW). The spirit of the answer is the same, but the details are somewhat different. I assume that your RW is a read-write CD, that the file system on the CD is iso9660, and that you have iso9660 supported by your kernel. If these things are true, then you can read the CD by mounting it first: mount -r -t iso9660 /mnt/hdxx /cdrom where hdxx is device for your ide cd rw. If your CD-RW is SCSI, I don't know. My scsi CD ROM is /dev/scd0, I would try that device, unless it is the second CD device, where it should be scd1. --David David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software support should be free, timely, useful, technically accurate, and friendly. (Hoping that this is all of the above. Everybody else's help is certainly all of the above.)
Samba problem: can't create a valid tmp service
When I run smbclient '\\[hostname]\tmp' (following the DIAGNOSIS doc) and enter my password, I get Invalid network name in tree connect. The smb log reports couldn't find service tmp, yet the tmp service setup in smb.conf is an exact match of the sample config file, and running testparm on the config file reports no errors for the service setup. FWIW, this is how the service is configured: [tmp] comment = Temporary file space path = /tmp read only = yes public = yes Can anyone give me a clue about what I'm missing? Thanks. -- Curt Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Please remove .NOSPAM from the above when responding)
Re: Pine question
On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, iehrenwald wrote: Hi everyone, I am using pine to read/send mail. I am also using a dial-up connection for my Internet access. My login name for my machine is 'ian'. My account on my ISP is 'iehrenwald'. How do I get pine to send mail from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and not '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or whatever it is at now? I tried playing with the passwd file using chfn but that didn't seem to do it? Anyone have some ideas? Thanks. Have you tried changing the 'From'-field in Pine's setup? Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Matthew 6:33
Incorrect MD5Sum on unofficial Xfree debs
Hi all, I'm going through the last stages of completely upgrading to slink. Everything works smoothly, except for that last step. I already installed xserver-glint from Vincent's 'unofficial' xfree-3.3.3.1 release. However, when performing a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' I get the error messages below. Is the master really corrupt, or did I screw up on my machine, and if so, how can I remedy this? I already tried removing the offending packages from the /var/cache/apt tree to force a new download, but that doesn't help (no new download is triggered). I'm running slink on a PII-350 w/128MB RAM, 8MB Permedia 2 video. Kernel 2.0.36. wiz:/# apt-get dist-upgrade Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...ok The following NEW packages will be installed: twm xsm xproxy xfree86-common xlib6g-dev rstartd nmh rstart xmh xfs 19 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 2347k/13.3M of archives. After unpacking 10.1M will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Get http://master.debian.org xfree-3.3.3.1/ xlib6 [758k] Get http://master.debian.org xfree-3.3.3.1/ xlib6g-dev [633k] Get http://master.debian.org xfree-3.3.3.1/ xlib6g [956k] ERROR http://master.debian.org/~vincent/xfree-3.3.3.1/xlib6_3.3.3.1-0_i386.deb Incorrect MD5Sum ERROR http://master.debian.org/~vincent/xfree-3.3.3.1/xlib6g-dev_3.3.3.1-0_i386.deb Incorrect MD5Sum ERROR http://master.debian.org/~vincent/xfree-3.3.3.1/xlib6g_3.3.3.1-0_i386.deb Incorrect MD5Sum wiz:/# -- ***Guido A.J. Stevens ***mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*** ***Net Facilities Group***tel:+31.43.3618933*** ***http://www.nfg.nl ***fax:+31.43.3560502*** PGP fingerprint E3 56 AA 30 44 EE 9E E9 CA 52 C5 B8 66 2F 77 21
more Mutt question
set folder =~/.mail set mbox=~/.mail/inbox set postponed =~/.mail/postponed set record =~/.mail/outbox set spoolfile =~/.mail/inbox Now, when it comes to moving it every month - mutt is constantly fighting against mail client bloat, so if you ask about this on one of the mutt mailing lists, the official answer is: Use cron, it's designed to do things exactly like this, it works, and it means we don't have to inflate the mail client anymore. So basically, just set up a quick monthly cron job that moves your sent-mail folder out of the way and touches a new one. thanks for the hot tip. now how do i mark 20 files out of the 80 i just received and move them over to some folder called debian-user ... presently i copy the selected emails to that folder (one by one) then i delete them afterwards ... (im a new mutt convert) TIA, chad
More trouble ahead....
Thank you James, March, Richard, Oliver and Jan for answering my questions. It seems indeed that the base system doesn't come with the man command. A bit strange, but who am I to comment on that :-) I still haven't solved the script problem, though. - I have used ./telltime, but still no luck. - I have changed the mode to 0777 (or +u if you prefer). - I have checked the PATH and put the file in /bin and /usr/local/bin, both of which are in the path. BTW, Oliver, $ type telltime comes back with bash: $: command not found. Bash is installed and in /bin. I have used a mini-Linux distribution (tomsrtbt 2.0.36 - the most Linux on a floppy. Never leave home without it) to boot and then change the mode according to the above. Still no result. A wild guess of mine is that I maybe did something wrong when I cfdisked the harddrive. As I said, when installing Debian 2.1 the installer didn't want to execute cfdisk and so I partitioned by hand and skipped that step. When booting now I see the following Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 20940 swap-space (priority -1) Exqueeze me, but what is VFS and is the fact that my Mounted root (hda1) is readonly correct? The reason why I need this problem solved is that I want to use paride to connect a parallel port CD-ROM and thus I need to make a /dev/pcd (which also doesn't come standard). Once I have the CD-ROM I can install the system in full, otherwise I will have to start thinking about buying some extra floppies and install it via that medium :-( I'm still having fun, though. Problem solving is the fastest way to become smart. Maybe that is street smart, but it'll come in handy sooner or later :-) At least I find Linux a lot more logical than MS-DOS, although I can't wait to install Moonlight Commander, because I really miss a commander like that. Should be standard in every distribution. From a dark and gloomy Taipei (no wonder at 10:20 pm) greetings from, Hans
Re: more Mutt question
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:20:00PM +0800, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: thanks for the hot tip. now how do i mark 20 files out of the 80 i just received and move them over to some folder called debian-user ... presently i copy the selected emails to that folder (one by one) then i delete them afterwards ... (im a new mutt convert) TIA, chad I'm not sure I completely understand what you're asking, but I'll give it a shot. If you're just looking to separate debian-user mail from everything else, one suggestion is procmail. I have the following procmail rule in my .procmailrc: :0: * ^TOdebian-user@ debian-user This files away all traffic from this list into ~/.mail/debian-user instead of my normal ~/.mail/inbox for new mail. Then, inside .muttrc, I define which mailboxes receive new mail like so: mailboxes =inbox snip =debian-user This way, mutt will alert me when new mail has arrived in debian-user, and when I press 'c' (for change folder), mutt will supply the name of the next mailbox with new unread mail automatically. Another way to go about this, if you still want all of your mail to arrive in your inbox, but then get sorted after you read it, is to use a mutt save-hook. For example, for debian-user, you do save-hook ^debian-user-request=debian-user Now, inside of mutt, whenever you hit 's' over a message from debian-user, it guesses that this belongs in the debian-user folder. You can still change this, of course, but you can save your mail by hitting 's', enter, over and over. To be really efficient, you use message tagging. So you hit 't' over all messages from debian-user as you read them, and they get a little asterisk next to them (in the default configuration, at least). When you're done, press ';' (that's the tag prefix, makes the next operation apply to all tagged messages), then 's', and the folder they belong in (if you've set up a save-hook, you won't even have to type this). So basically, there are lots of ways, either with mutt or with mutt in combination with other tools, to do this without copying the messages over and then deleting. Hope I've been of some help. -- Ian Peters I never let schooling interfere with my education. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Twain
Removing the Enlightenment Pager
I don't seem to be able to figure out how to stop the enlightenment pager from automatically starting when enlightenment starts (and gnome-session is controling). I don't want to use it as I use the gnome-pager. Any ideas? I am using the most up-to-date debs as of today and I am running a fully updated potato system. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Cheers. -- Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.telmer.com
Re: how to reset the console?
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 06:56:00PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's any good to you Rob, I could run savetextmode on my machine and post it to you. I'd hate to see you lose your uptime :) Can anyone on the list see a reason why this wouldn't work ? Ivan. That would be something to try, I guess. The only problem that I can forsee is that I have my machine booting to something besides the 80x24 character screen and I can't remember which one it was (the vga option in lilo.conf -- mine says 9 but I seem to remember that menu being machine-dependent). So unless you happened to do the same thing then I'll have to figure out how to hot-switch that. Shouldn't be too hard. If there are any dark secrets of vga incompatibility floating around out there, this would be a very good time to air them. I think it says a lot about the stability and flexibility of Linux that I haven't had a console since Wednesday and my machine is still accessible (and would be even if I didn't have xdm running, though that would be a lot harder), but I have no desire to make my monitor explode because I'm too stubborn to reboot. Please Cc: to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] And thanks for the help. You're all pretty cool. Rob -- Were there no women, men might live like gods. -- Thomas Dekker
Whoops
I did something really stupid: #mv /usr/bash somewhere_else (don't ask). Then I exited root, and (of course) I can't log in as root to fix it. I'm still logged in as a normal user, but anything using a script with /bin/bash or /bin/sh doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this. PS I don't think I have a rescue floppy Thanks Slightly Sheepish: Rich
Re: More trouble ahead....
I still haven't solved the script problem, though. - I have used ./telltime, but still no luck. - I have changed the mode to 0777 (or +u if you prefer). - I have checked the PATH and put the file in /bin and /usr/local/bin, both of which are in the path. BTW, Oliver, $ type telltime comes back with bash: $: command not found. Bash is installed and in /bin. That's a very strange error for bash to be giving... Because, unless you changed the script from before, there is no $ in it at all! i'm stumped... for the moment. When booting now I see the following Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 20940 swap-space (priority -1) Exqueeze me, but what is VFS and is the fact that my Mounted root (hda1) is readonly correct? That's completely normal. i forget exactly what VFS stands for (Virtual File System?), but the root partition is always mounted readonly until it can be checked. Then it's remounted read-write. The reason why I need this problem solved is that I want to use paride to connect a parallel port CD-ROM and thus I need to make a /dev/pcd (which also doesn't come standard). Once I have the CD-ROM I can install the system in full, otherwise I will have to start thinking about buying some extra floppies and install it via that medium :-( Slow net connection? Or are you on a different computer emailing us? Either way, it's a pain... I'm still having fun, though. Problem solving is the fastest way to become smart. Maybe that is street smart, but it'll come in handy sooner or later That's the best way to learn! Just get in there and do it...
Re: Mutt question
Subject: Mutt question Date: Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 07:37:31PM +1000 In reply to:Shao Zhang Quoting Shao Zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, I was wondering how to use mutt to configure a folder called sent-mail, and then on a monthly basis, move the sent-mail to sent-mail-date and create a new sent mail folder, just like what pine has got. thx. Shao. # nerxt puts mutt mail in dated monthly folders ??? save-hook mutt +mutt.`date +%m%y` -- Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: [Re: Whoops] Hurray]
Richard Harran wrote: Got it sorted. Copied the man for su to my home directory and unzipped it and read it. Used -s where-i'd-put-bash option for su. Moved bash back to where it belonged. Vowed to stop mucking about and get on with some work. Still feeling a bit silly: Rich I did something really stupid: #mv /usr/bash somewhere_else (don't ask). Then I exited root, and (of course) I can't log in as root to fix it. I'm still logged in as a normal user, but anything using a script with /bin/bash or /bin/sh doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this. PS I don't think I have a rescue floppy Thanks Slightly Sheepish: Rich -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Whoops
On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Richard Harran wrote: I did something really stupid: #mv /usr/bash somewhere_else (don't ask). Then I exited root, and (of course) I can't log in as root to fix it. I'm still logged in as a normal user, but anything using a script with /bin/bash or /bin/sh doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this. PS I don't think I have a rescue floppy Thanks Slightly Sheepish: Rich Do you have something like sudo or su installed ? other wise... you can maybe make a tomsrtbt disk... and restore it from there... (you can make those from DOS too... so) I'm out of ideas now... -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: PS/AUX
Michael Beattie wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, John Foster wrote: Michael Beattie wrote: Sorry, stupid question, I just decided to change to a PS/2 mouse, but I dont have the faintest about how to set it up. kernel recompile? --- YEP! probably a good time to upgrade to 2.2.5 :-) It's too late for that: $ uname -a Linux bob 2.2.6 #1 Fri Apr 16 19:57:45 MST 1999 i586 unknown Ouch... well, Im not going that far, yet, Ive been told my VX/Pro MB wont like the 2.2 series very much... but a simple upgrade to 2.0.36 with PS/2 enabled sorted things... My only question.. how do I increase the mouse speed in X? gpm was easy. -- run gpmconfig from the consol ( this will set it globally) or run xmseconfig from your xterminal.begin:vcard n:Foster;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.advance-computing.com org:AdVance-Computing Systems;WHQ version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Owner note:We Build Multi-Processor Computers adr;quoted-printable:;;Stonetrail Drive=0D=0ASuite A;Plano;Texas;75023-7223;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;22240 fn:John Foster end:vcard
Xfree support for SiS 6316 Pro 3D?
Does anyone know if there's an x server for this chip, I have a friend who's got it. Seems uncommon, he says it doesn't appear in xfconfig. -- -~* Daniel Elenius *~-
Compilation problems with XEmacs
I have the debian sources for xemacs 20.4-13 and wanted to recompile it to remove the gpm support. After applying a little filter to the debian/rules file to get rid of the mule variants: while(STDIN) { print unless /mule/; next unless /nomule/; s/\S*canna\S*//g; s/\S*[-_]mule\S*//g; s/[ ]mule\S*/ /g; print; } I compiled it as usual. However, gcc complained about the ndbm.h file missing. I used locate to find it in /usr/include/db1 and changed the rules file to point to this include locatation. The compilation succeeded, however xemacs crashed as soon as I started it in X11 (with -nw or in linux console it run fine). I was able to track the problem down to the database library. If I add the --with-database=berkdb option to the configure call in debian/rules, the resulting version won't crash on my system. Does anybody has similiar problems after stepping to glibc2.1 (currently 2.1.1-0.2 is installed)? Is there a better way to solve this problem without correcting the self-detection routines in autoconf.h? I'd like to compile unchanged debian packages on my system. Torsten -- Homepage: http://www.in-berlin.de/User/myrkr
OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
Does someone know why I would get the following errors in a compilation of a C app? I would think that the sqrt function is in one of the libraries defined in the beginning of the code (e.g. #include math.h ). kaynjay:/home/autodock/dist_3.0/src/autotors# cc -o autotors autotors.c /tmp/ccc01215: In function 'check_aromatic': /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0x1b4f): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccc01215: In function 'main': /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0xa586): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0xba83): undefined reference to 'sqrt' The compile dies with these. There are no directions for compiling. I'm following the same pattern given for another program in the distribution. Thanks for any help! Kenward Vaughan
www.debian.org
Wow! The Debian home page, (http://www.debian.org), just suggested to my broswer, M$IE 5, that I install the Chinese font set. Looks like M$ found another way to break the standards? I don't seem to be able to set the default browser language so the Debian home page comes up in EN. Any ideas? BTW, The site really looks cool in Chinese. - Bill So many good sigs out there, which one to use?
Re: OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
You need to link to the maths library. Add the -lm option to your linking line eg: gcc program -lm HTH Rich. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does someone know why I would get the following errors in a compilation of a C app? I would think that the sqrt function is in one of the libraries defined in the beginning of the code (e.g. #include math.h ). kaynjay:/home/autodock/dist_3.0/src/autotors# cc -o autotors autotors.c /tmp/ccc01215: In function 'check_aromatic': /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0x1b4f): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccc01215: In function 'main': /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0xa586): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0xba83): undefined reference to 'sqrt' The compile dies with these. There are no directions for compiling. I'm following the same pattern given for another program in the distribution. Thanks for any help! Kenward Vaughan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Sending mail with Exmh?
I am trying Exmh and like it a lot. It works great on my Debian 2.1 system except for sending mail. Whenever I compose a message and click 'send' I get this error message: post: problem initializing server; [BHST] no servers available send: message not delivered to anyone I understand that sending mail from a Tk app is not so straightforward. All I want to do is put the outgoing message into my mailqueue to be sent using sendmail when I connect to my ISP. I can do this from any other mail client. I do not use xdm, not have any desire to. I log on and run startx. Has anyone managed to send mail with Exmh and Debian? If so, please tell me how to do it. Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.1
Re: www.debian.org
It looks like this is the default I am seeing when I go to debian.org. I can't tell for sure though. http://www.debian.org/index.zh.html Quoting Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, What do you mean you can see debian home page in Chinese?? Is there acutally a Chinese version of the debian homepage?? On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 12:35:20PM -0500, Bill Bell wrote: Wow! The Debian home page, (http://www.debian.org), just suggested to my broswer, M$IE 5, that I install the Chinese font set. Looks like M$ found another way to break the standards? I don't seem to be able to set the default browser language so the Debian home page comes up in EN. Any ideas? BTW, The site really looks cool in Chinese. - Bill So many good sigs out there, which one to use? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _ - Bill So many good sigs out there, which one to use? - End forwarded message - - Bill So many good sigs out there, which one to use?
Banshee
Hello As a Debian newbie and was wondering if there is an HOWTO or a faq on how to get an Creative Labs Banshee 16mb working in Debian ? Rene
Re: OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:36:39AM -0700, Alan Su wrote: sqrt is probably in the math library, so you need to link with the -lm argument. try that, and if it doesn't work, i'm sure i can find out what the right way to do this is... -alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:27:19 -0700 ): |Does someone know why I would get the following errors in a compilation of a [...] Thanks Alan. That did it. Sorry for what must be a trivial question, but I am only on page 3 of my Ansi C programming for Scientists and Engineers book. Kenward
Re: OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:27:19AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does someone know why I would get the following errors in a compilation of a C app? I would think that the sqrt function is in one of the libraries defined in the beginning of the code (e.g. #include math.h ). kaynjay:/home/autodock/dist_3.0/src/autotors# cc -o autotors autotors.c ^^ cc -lm -o ... don't forget to link the math library :) HTH Ivan. /tmp/ccc01215: In function 'check_aromatic': /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0x1b4f): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccc01215: In function 'main': /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0xa586): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0xba83): undefined reference to 'sqrt' The compile dies with these. There are no directions for compiling. I'm following the same pattern given for another program in the distribution. Thanks for any help! Kenward Vaughan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian vs. RedHat
In linux.debian.user, Michael Schuerig wrote: I don't think it qualifies you as dumb, but is not a good idea to install each and every package you might need the first time around. Get a basic system running and then selectively install packages you want. You don't see that as a terrible indictment of dselect? What kind of installation system makes you select your options in *increments*? Especially when, without apt, it makes you sit around for twenty minutes on each cycle while pointlessly listing packages it *isn't* installing? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net
Re: Mutt question
One good way to archive files (which is the way that the files in /var/log are archived) is to use savelog. Type 'crontab -e' at the prompt, and add the following line to your crontab: 0 0 1 * * /usr/bin/savelog /path/to/my/file Carl
Re: Debian vs. RedHat
Jan Muszynski wrote: On 18 Apr 99, at 12:31, Stephan Goldenberg wrote about Re: Debian vs. RedHat: This newbie found it easy just selecting one of the pre-configured installs. You can then fine tune the package selection after the initial configuration is installed (this can of course take days, weeks, maybe months or years :) ). This then amounts to 1 or 2 minutes deciding which configuration to install (based on needs/wants), and no fighting of dependencies. You can, of course, take longer to decide which configuration to install by checking the complete list of packages installed with each configuration etc. I just installed the workstation standard, but since then I have been 'fighting with dependencies' and learning dselect and dpkg, but I still prefer them to glint. The hardest part for me was partitioning. I'd just bought a new 8GB drive, and wondered how much space to allocate for /, /usr, etc. I have some Linux experience, with SUSE and RedHat. Debian sounded like a challenge and I've found it to be very user friendly, although many have not. Matt
Re: libc6 2.1 on slink
On Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 10:03:07PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: A possible solution is to download the package source and build it yourself. [snip advice..] excellent! thanks shaleh and dan. i'm off to build Eterm-0.8.9.. -vinny -- Vincent Murphy | CompSci Undergrad, UCC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (086) 8397405 With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am limited only by my knowledge. --P J Schoenster
Re: OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
I just checked (and hope to be corrected) but I couldn't find _ANY_ reference to requiring the -lm option to enable math functions. I, like many others, was aware of this requirement but IMHO the documentation may be deficient in this respect. I would like to know if anyone can find the reference as it seems not to be in the places I would look myself or expect a beginner to look. Ivan. On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:56:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:36:39AM -0700, Alan Su wrote: sqrt is probably in the math library, so you need to link with the -lm argument. try that, and if it doesn't work, i'm sure i can find out what the right way to do this is... -alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:27:19 -0700 ): |Does someone know why I would get the following errors in a compilation of a [...] Thanks Alan. That did it. Sorry for what must be a trivial question, but I am only on page 3 of my Ansi C programming for Scientists and Engineers book. Kenward -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[off topic] new apt ?
hello everyone ! i see ppl are still fighting about debian and redhat and dselect and stuff ... anyway, would someone please try and check out http://www.debian.org/~jgg/apt/screenshots/ ??? i was roaming around a while ago when i saw them ... any idea what they are, their package names, etc ... i really think theyre neat ... they look so neat ... regards everyone, Chad A. Adlawan
Re: [off topic] new apt ?
Chad A. Adlawan wrote: hello everyone ! i see ppl are still fighting about debian and redhat and dselect and stuff ... anyway, would someone please try and check out http://www.debian.org/~jgg/apt/screenshots/ ??? i was roaming around a while ago when i saw them ... any idea what they are, their package names, etc ... i really think theyre neat ... they look so neat ... If that is the future of package management, then we are all winners. It does look good. But I suppose there will always be people who swear by the command line (I'm not saying thats a bad thing!). Matt
Re: how to reset the console?
On %M 0, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote If it's any good to you Rob, I could run savetextmode on my machine and post it to you. I'd hate to see you lose your uptime :) Can anyone on the list see a reason why this wouldn't work ? Ivan. It may not work if your video cards are sufficiently dissimilar, or if either is not very SVGA-ish; and he has to run the command from a textmode session so he has to login and type the command blind, but if he can it may work. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
Re: www.debian.org
On 18-Apr-99 Bill Bell wrote: It looks like this is the default I am seeing when I go to debian.org. I can't tell for sure though. This gives it away (view Doc Source): !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTML lang=zh Ted. In German oder English I know how to count down, Und I'm learning Chinese, says Werner von Braun. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 18-Apr-99 Time: 19:46:32 -- XFMail --
kernel question
Hi, If I compile something as a module rather than include it in the kernel, will I get a performance loss?? If I use something very often, such as ppp, should I include it in the kernel or compile it as a module? Thx. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: Dual Boot Linux/NT and ATI Rage IIc video
Well, I'm not quite sure what happened, but here it is. I decided that I would try putting the original X files back in from my CD, so I ran dselect, pointed it at my CD, and let it go. It restored alot of files, but not all of them. I ran the install option several time, but kept getting the same dependency problems. Then I tried using dpkg to install JUST xserver-mach64, thinking I could just check the dep's for it, and of course it failed miserably. At this point I figured my X directory was pretty hosed up. XF86Setup kept complaining about xinitrc files missing. I ran xf86config, and it let me select the Rage IIC card. But XF86Setup still wouldn't run. I rebooted it back to Windows out of disgust with myself. Later I figured I would just delete the entire X11R6 directory and try again with dselect. Imagine my surprise when, just as I was waiting for login at tty1, all of a sudden I got the X login screen! I logged in, and now I've got X. About 4 time the size of my 17 monitor. The screen scrolls with the mouse. The menu is there, I'm using fmw95, and lots of app's seem to be installed, but most of them don't work, yet. I haven't tried running XF86Setup yet, But I think I'll contact my friend here and see if he'll burn me a new CD with the latest version on it and try to upgrade with that. I need to get together with some Linux users to find out how to configure the rest of my system, but at least I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just hope it doesn't turn out to be a train! As for the other prob's, My modem is a Rockwell, I need to get that replaced, I think. My sound card is a crystal something. I have a lexmark 3200 colour printer, and I plan to get a cheap PC for my daughter as an X terminal, so we can stop fighting over the PC! This is certainly going to be an interesting and, hopefully, fun, learning curve. But I might as well jump in with both feet and take the plunge! Wish me luck! Cheers, John Gay
Re: kernel question
Hi, If I compile something as a module rather than include it in the kernel, will I get a performance loss?? If I use something very often, such as ppp, should I include it in the kernel or compile it as a module? There should not be a difference. If you use something the entire time the box is on, then consider compiling it in. Some items must be a module to allow irq and io addresses to be configed.
Re: Banshee
Hello As a Debian newbie and was wondering if there is an HOWTO or a faq on how to get an Creative Labs Banshee 16mb working in Debian ? The steps are: go to store buy a new card take out Banshee card install new card enjoy working Xfree Banshee cards are not currently supported. A coworker of mine sold his and bought a TNT. Cheaper and in all ways a better card. It can be forced to work by using the frame buffer console and Xframebuffer BUT it is non acclerated and is a waste of card.
Re: Looking for trouble.
3) I tried to create some scripts, very simple ones, but they refuse to run, or the system says command not found. Example: #! /bin/bash # echo The time and date is.. date Saved as telltime, then mode changed with chmod -v u+x telltime. With cat I can still see the contents of the file as plain text. Is this normal? As said, when executing telltime the system returns command not found. I know that you have to watch the path, but even when I put this script in / or /bin it still won't run, while installed commands like date do run from almost every directory. What do I do wrong?
Re: More trouble ahead....
-Hans van den Boogert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you James, March, Richard, Oliver and Jan for answering my questions. It seems indeed that the base system doesn't come with the man command. A bit strange, but who am I to comment on that :-) Lack of space. BTW, Oliver, $ type telltime comes back with bash: $: command not found. Bash is installed and in /bin. Don't type the dollar sign. It's only used in writing to imply that the following should be written after the shell prompt. Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 20940 swap-space (priority -1) Exqueeze me, but what is VFS and is the fact that my Mounted root (hda1) is readonly correct? VFS is the Virtual File System. It is an abstract wrapper around the different filesystems. root is supposed to be mounted readonly at first. I'm still having fun, though. Problem solving is the fastest way to become smart. Maybe that is street smart, but it'll come in handy sooner or later Certainly. From a dark and gloomy Taipei (no wonder at 10:20 pm) greetings from, The moon is up here too. Luckily it's not full, or I'd be stalking people in the forest instead of writing this :-E -- MS-DOS: Micro$oft Denial Of Service. The most popular denial of service attack. It is commonly disguised as an operating system. The easiest fix is to install a freenix.
Re: Whoops
-Richard Harran [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did something really stupid: #mv /usr/bash somewhere_else (don't ask). Then I exited root, and (of course) I can't log in as root to fix it. I'm still logged in as a normal user, but anything using a script with /bin/bash or /bin/sh doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this. Try: su --shell=somewhere_else/bash or, if you have shut it down: linux -b sushell=somewhere_else/bash at the LILO prompt. -- MS-DOS: Micro$oft Denial Of Service. The most popular denial of service attack. It is commonly disguised as an operating system. The easiest fix is to install a freenix.
Re: [off topic] new apt ?
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: i see ppl are still fighting about debian and redhat and dselect and stuff ... anyway, would someone please try and check out http://www.debian.org/~jgg/apt/screenshots/ ??? i was roaming around a while ago when i saw them ... any idea what they are, their package names, etc ... i really think theyre neat ... they look so neat ... Those are very old screenshots of apt (originally named deity). I have no idea if they still resemble the current apt. Parent Directory28-Mar-1999 23:36 - deity1.gif 26-Nov-1997 20:2727k deity2.gif 07-Dec-1997 19:0330k deity3.gif 23-Mar-1998 21:1634k ...RickM...
Re: Debian vs. RedHat
On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Carl Fink wrote: You don't see that as a terrible indictment of dselect? What kind of installation system makes you select your options in *increments*? Especially when, without apt, it makes you sit around for twenty minutes on each cycle while pointlessly listing packages it *isn't* installing? I have to agree with this. dselect was supposed to be a user-friendly front end, but it has a very bizarre structure. Why can't it update the package list in the same step in which you choose a method of installation? (I realize you may want to update the packages without changing the method, but why can't it automatically update the packages when you change it?) Furthermore, is there a method of searching by package description, rather than name, in dselect, and if not, why not? It could be very useful. (My apologies if I just need to RTFM more carefully. I learned the proper use of dselect primarily through trial and error.) - Bill
Re: Debian vs. RedHat
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 09:02:30PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: You don't see that as a terrible indictment of dselect? What kind of installation system makes you select your options in *increments*? It doesn't require it, it's just a sensible policy to install what you know you need and then go wandering through looking for things you might need (particularly given the size of the distribution - if you install everything that looks interesting you'll end up with a whole load of stuff sitting around on your disk that gets forgotten). A running count of disk space used would be useful, but you also have to worry about which partitions have how much space, caches which may be created and so on. Especially when, without apt, it makes you sit around for twenty minutes on each cycle while pointlessly listing packages it *isn't* installing? That's been fixed - use dpkg-multicd, apt or some other current method. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
Re: Banshee
I think you still can get it to work in linux although it is not that well supported. Check out all the infos at www.linux3d.org On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 03:37:47PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello As a Debian newbie and was wondering if there is an HOWTO or a faq on how to get an Creative Labs Banshee 16mb working in Debian ? The steps are: go to store buy a new card take out Banshee card install new card enjoy working Xfree Banshee cards are not currently supported. A coworker of mine sold his and bought a TNT. Cheaper and in all ways a better card. It can be forced to work by using the frame buffer console and Xframebuffer BUT it is non acclerated and is a waste of card. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
X mystery solved (sort of)
Hi all: I downloaded the X 3.3.3 files from Vincent's directory late last month. I ran into a small problem with the installation that wouldn't let me run XF86Setup. It kept complaining about some README file for xkb not being installed and then it would bail. I was able to get X working using xf86config, though. I tracked down the location of the file in xclients-base ad re-installed it with out improvement. Since the file was just a README, I decided to create it where it thought it should be. Voila! problem solved. Now it complains about some misc READMEs, but it runs perfectly. Has anyone else had this problem, or am I the only idiot on this list? I thought I would ask before I emailed Vincent. TIA -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ http://www.debian.org
Re: OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just checked (and hope to be corrected) but I couldn't find _ANY_ reference to requiring the -lm option to enable math functions. Try KR Mike. -- Indifference will certainly be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
Re: Looking for trouble.
3) I tried to create some scripts, very simple ones, but they refuse to run, or the system says command not found. Example: [...] Saved as telltime, then mode changed with chmod -v u+x telltime. With cat I can still see the contents of the file as plain text. Is this normal? As said, when executing telltime the system returns command not found. Are you executing this as root? If so, root only runs programs in its' path -- you'd have to do something like a ./telltime if that were the case. Yes, you should be able to cat the file as a plain text file (that's what it is). Try doing a chmod +x telltime to give everyone executable access and see if that works. -- Regards, | Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org - More software than . | *any* distribution, rock solid reliability, quality control, Randy | seamless upgrades via ftp or CD-ROM, strict filesystem layout | and adherence to standards, and militantly 100% FREE Linux!
kernels 2.0.x, 2.2.x and networking
Hi, I just shot myself in the foot, when trying to reach for the stars... I was trying out the 2.2.5 kernel on my Slink install. Before I saw the page on running 2.2 by Anthony Towns (did I get the name right?), I had noticed that when bring up my 2.2 kernel, my route using lo was not coming up. And I couldnt bring it up manually either. The messages that I was getting indicated some kind of syntax error - which was strange, since I was booting off of the same rootdisk used by my 2.0.36 Slink install. Anyway, when I discovered Anthony's page, I went and downloaded the new netbase and installed it. This of course required the new libc6 (otherwise it wouldnt configure), and which required apt version 0.10 (and which I couldnt find - what I found was apt version 0.3x [x = something or the other]). Anyway, everything is installed, and now my 2.2 kernel still doesnt produce a route for lo, but worse (oh horrors!) my 2.0.36 kernel now produces the following 'ifconfig' output : eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:20:78:15:E3:9E unix addr: Bcast: Mask: UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 Interrupt:10 Base address:0x1200 loLink encap:Local Loopback unspec addr:00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-3B-01-40-02-00 Bcast:00-00-7F-FF-FF-FF-00-00-00-00-00-3B-01-40-02-00 Mask:00-00-FF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-3B-01-40-00-00 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 This is what a working 'ifconfig' setup looks like (on my Redhat system - same machine) : loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:20:78:15:E3:9E inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:10 Base address:0x1200 Save me! Jor-el
Re: Telnet from M$win to Debian (newbie)
Well, you can login as root through telnet, but it's not recommended. I used to do that alot on my Slackware setup, but it seems that Debian (at least Slink) is set up to not let you do that. I'm sure you can change the settings somehow, but it's simpler and more secure to login as a regular user and then su. Try setting up ssh as well. It's a lot more secure and automatically forwards your X connection (encripted, unlike simply setting your display to the remote computer). my $0.02 -igor - Original Message - From: Assad Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 1:38 PM Subject: Re: Telnet from M$win to Debian (newbie) John, first of all you can't login as root via telnet. It is probably something with telnetd or the kernel as security, also never log in as root. A lot of exploits can be used and you can accidently format your whole hard drive. Use su, but only use it when you need to, since only bad system administrators login as root all the time. -Original Message- From: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harte, Tiemen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Telnet from M$win to Debian (newbie) First, give up on logging in as root over telnet unless you want to ignore about a dozen rules of thumb for computer security and override one or two built in safties. As for normal users, I haven't needed any special perms to get a few dozen friends to log into my box: you're sure that you have telnetd installed? Perhaps the remote host is in hosts.deny (it sounds like that might be the prob, but I really don't know for sure)? If you really need to use the root account, first login as a user, then su. HTH On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Harte, Tiemen wrote: Hi Debian people, I'm trying to telnet to my debian PC. I can get the login screen but I can't log in with the ROOT account or a other account created with adduser. It's like my password is wrong, i keep getting the message access denied. Do I need to give the account the rights to login via telnet from another computer? And if that's it, what do I need to change? Groetjes, Tiemen -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null a mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Who is John Galt?/a Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -- Ferenc Mantfeld -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Setting up ssh
The man pages for ssh are pretty comprehensive. That's what I used to set up ssh both on my (first Slackware, then Debian slink) box and the Sun Ultra's in our computer lab. I'm able to ssh into my box, which has only a static IP address. I use $- ssh -l username XXX.YYY.ZZz.www (ip address) Works fine for me -igor - Original Message - From: Corey Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 9:12 PM Subject: Setting up ssh Does anyone know where I can find a howto on setting up ssh? I have tried running the script to get the hosts using dns, but it doesn't find any hosts. Is there a way to give it an IP address to try, and have it add the host? Thanks in advance. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Some email bounces = misconfigured exim?
Hello, Arcady Genkin: Well, I personally don't think that *that* is the problem. My outgoing mail bounces from the foreign servers, not sympatico's. Why are you trying to send mail directly to foreign servers? Simpler to give it all to your ISP and let *them* handle it. It's their *job* to figure out how to talk to all the SMTP hosts on the planet, and they have the resources to do it (including their own DNS, static IP, permanent link, full-time staff to handle problems etc). You should only need to figure out how to talk to your own ISP's SMTP host. Most of them only require that you be calling in from their modem pool. (My own mail address - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - is an MX-only domain pointing to a commercial ISP; I have no problem using that address when sending e-mail, provided I send it to whoever I've currently phoned (ISP server when I call the ISP, university server when I'm on the uni modem pool). The machine I'm typing on is called legend.baum.com.au) In the routers section of exim.conf, use something like: smarthost: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = * mail.sympatico.ca bydns_a end (Actually, since I routinely call either the ISP or the university, I have the ip-up.d/exim script place the mailserver name in a file and then I pull it into the exim config using the $lookup function.) HTH Jiri -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll know the future has arrived when every mailer transparently quotes lines that begin with From , but no-one remembers why.
Re: SIOCADDRT error
Well, let's see. You're looking for somthing that you know was said on this mailing list recently. Dosn't that suguest to you that you want to look at the mailing list archives? So you go to www.debian.org in your favorite web browser, and find Mailing List Archives on the map to the left. From there, you find the April 1999 debian-user, and search for SIOCADDRT (using alt-f in netscape or / in lynx). You'll find it in the third page of debian-user for this month. You can find two specific fixes on that page, mine (http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9904/msg01303.html), and Wayne Topa's (http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9904/msg01522.html). -=- James Mastros -- My friend Data: You see the world with the wonder of a child, and that makes you more human then any of us. -=- Lt. Tasha Yar, upon the occasion of her death.
Another pine dilemna
Now that I've got pine working with sending mail from the right place, it seems that it errors when I try and view any message from the list. It tells me: [Error: can't find body for requested message]. Anyone know why this would come up? You'll have to cc: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I'm not able to view the mailing list :/. Thanks Ian Ehrenwald
Re: OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:00:25PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just checked (and hope to be corrected) but I couldn't find _ANY_ reference to requiring the -lm option to enable math functions. Try KR That's not really part of Debian, though. It *is* documented in the comp.lang.c FAQ, but that isn't packaged. I guess what's being looked for is more like writing something in the appropriate man pages or what have we. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/