Re: Noticia del día...
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 07:55:42PM +0200, AVILA BERMEJO FRANCISCO JOSE wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, TooMany wrote: Creo que ésto puede ser muy muy interesante: Inprise y Corel han juntado sus esfuerzos en potenciar Linux, reflejándose más que nada en el tema del Office de Corel, y lógicamente, herramientas de desarrollo de Borland/Inprise y demás progs de Corel... (a grosso modo). Así compartirán todo lo referente a temas de marketing y distribución en cuanto a Linux se refiere. Entonces supongo que dejarán a GTK+ de lado y harán las cosas para las Qt. Lo contentos que se van a poner los de Troll. Como esto siga así cualquier dia nos daremos cuanta de que las Qt valen 10.000 ptas. y todo el mundo a rascarse el bolsillo. No me fio de la licencia de las Qt. Mirad lo que pasó hace unos años con las XFree... Bueno... no eres la primera persona que me lo dice... pero yo creo que, simplemente, se basaran en la Xlib. Osea, en la librería X. Con ésto conseguirían una estandarización total, y los programas podrían compilarse en cualquier plataforma con XFree86... Desde luego, como se basen en las Qt, y como opinión mía personal, creo que harán una de las mayores cagadas de la historia... windows aparte ;-) -- \|/ \|/ Have a nice day ;-) @'/ ,. \'@ TooManySecrets /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/
Re: squid
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 03:22:30PM -0500, Ruben Dario Rojas Perez wrote: necesito aprender a configurar el squid lo tengo montado en linux red had 6.0 por favor cualquier ayuda es buena gracias espero respuesta Por mi parte, en ésto y lo que buenamente pueda, recibirás toda la ayuda que pueda y más... Pero chacho... estás en una lista de Debian, y NO de Red Hat... -- \|/ \|/ Have a nice day ;-) @'/ ,. \'@ TooManySecrets /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/
Re: Dominios virtuales en el sendmail
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:12:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ricard P.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dominios virtuales en el sendmail To:Lista de Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Buenas, A ver, ando algo loco buscando documentacion para crear los dominios virtuales en sendmail (o sea, que un mismo ordenador lleve dom1.com y dom2.com y pueda recibir correo a [EMAIL PROTECTED] y [EMAIL PROTECTED] diferenciandolos y todo eso) Si te entiendo bien creo que debes resolver declarando en sendmail.cw estos dominios, solo tendria que editarlo y poner dom1.com dom2.com Y el sedmail de esa maquina aceptara todo lo que envien para esos dominios. Nop, eso es para que tu maquina los reciba, efectivamente, pero la cuenta de correo (siguiendo el ejemplo anterior) info que? es un mismo usuario pero en dos dominios diferentes. Logicamente no vamos bien si yo envio correo a [EMAIL PROTECTED] y lo pueden leer dom1.com y dom2.com. Tampoco vamos bien si le digo al cliente que quiere poner dom2.com perdone, pero no puedo darle un correo que se llame info, otro usuario lo tiene. Creo que he conseguido explicarme un poquito mejor, no? sea como sea todo esto ocurre con una maquina con una IP. = . (O) See you, Nos vemos, Ens veiem ab. o M http://www.doneval.speedhost.com d88b. /| .. /:M\--- 8PYPY88 (O)[]XX[]I:K+}= TOR NEC DONAVAM == 8|o||o|88 \| ^^ \:W/--- 8'.88 o W Microsoft gives you Windows ... 8`._.' Y8 (O) Linux gives you the whole house d/ `8b. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Lista de Correos solo para mujeres
Si eres mujer Les, Bi o con inquietudes te invito a formar parte de mi lista de contactos exclusiva para mujeres de habla hispana. La lista se llama Contactos-Les-Bi y no se permiten los mensajes de hombres. Esta lista de correo es TOTALMENTE GRATUITA Y ES UNICAMENTE PARA MUJERES ! Puedes enviarme un mail a [EMAIL PROTECTED] para suscribirte. Las espero a TODAS. Un beso, Inés.
Sobre XFIG
Hola a todos, escribo para saber si alguién ha utilizado el XFIG. Me interesa exactamente el código que genera, ya que yo tengo que hacer el proceso inverso al que normalmente se sigue. Me explico, tengo que generar el dibujo de XFIG a partir de un archivo .fig que tengo que generar yo. Por ello me gustaría saber si alguién ha hecho algo así, o sabe dónde podría conseguir información sobre el código que utiliza XFIG para realizar los dibujos. Un saludo y gracias.
Re: gmc
Guenas On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 06:36:10PM +0200, Hue-Bond wrote: Bien, probaré gmc entonces :^) ¿No te vale el simple y comun filerunner? Saludines -- -- QQ | N.66054 Q Q | POWERED BY Debian 2.0 - Kernel 2.2.12| Andres Herrera QQ ---| [EMAIL PROTECTED] QQ Q!! Yo EXIJO drivers para Linux !!| Grupo LIMA QQ Q http://www.jr-projects.net/firmas| http://iaeste.cie.uma.es/lima --- pgpdYCDWoXQP6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sobre XFIG
Manuel Jerez Cßrdenes wrote: ... me gustaría saber si alguién ha hecho algo así, o sabe dónde podría conseguir información sobre el código que utiliza XFIG para realizar los dibujos. Pues la información que necesitas está en el manual de xfig, que viene en un paquete debian (graphics/xfig-doc). Si no lo has instalado o quieres ir rápido a lo que te interesa, visita: http://quark.fe.up.pt/manuals/xfig/fig-format.html o si quieres ver el manual completo, usa el enlace en la página: http://quark.fe.up.pt/manuals/ (Disculpame que está toda en portugues, pero solo necesitas encontrar el enlace para xfig). Espero que eso te ayude. Yo trabajo mucho haciendo mas o menos lo que quieres (generar los comandos en un editor de texto, para producir una gráfica) pero en vez del formato .fig uso directamente PostScript. Un cordial saludo, Jaime Villate
Re: Sobre XFIG
Manuel Jerez Cßrdenes wrote: Hola a todos, escribo para saber si alguién ha utilizado el XFIG. Me interesa exactamente el código que genera, ya que yo tengo que hacer el proceso inverso al que normalmente se sigue. Me explico, tengo que generar el dibujo de XFIG a partir de un archivo .fig que tengo que generar yo. Por ello me gustaría saber si alguién ha hecho algo así, o sabe dónde podría conseguir información sobre el código que utiliza XFIG para realizar los dibujos. ... Alguna vez lo hice. La información del formato está en el paquete xfig-doc (al igual que el xfig está en la sección main/graphics). Una vez instalado, en el directorio /usr/doc/xfig-doc vas a encontrar documentación bastante completa. -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()=\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm
Re: Lista de Correos solo para mujeres
No tengo nada en contra de las mujeres con inquietudes ni de las empresas argentinas, pero esta lista no podria ser moderada? --- Ines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Si eres mujer Les, Bi o con inquietudes te invito a formar parte de mi lista de contactos exclusiva para mujeres de habla hispana. La lista se llama Contactos-Les-Bi y no se permiten los mensajes de hombres. Esta lista de correo es TOTALMENTE GRATUITA Y ES UNICAMENTE PARA MUJERES ! Puedes enviarme un mail a [EMAIL PROTECTED] para suscribirte. Las espero a TODAS. Un beso, Inés. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null = . (O) See you, Nos vemos, Ens veiem ab. o M http://www.doneval.speedhost.com d88b. /| .. /:M\--- 8PYPY88 (O)[]XX[]I:K+}= TOR NEC DONAVAM == 8|o||o|88 \| ^^ \:W/--- 8'.88 o W Microsoft gives you Windows ... 8`._.' Y8 (O) Linux gives you the whole house d/ `8b. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Dominios virtuales en el sendmail
Si te entiendo bien creo que debes resolver declarando en sendmail.cw estos dominios, solo tendria que editarlo y poner dom1.com dom2.com Y el sedmail de esa maquina aceptara todo lo que envien para esos dominios. Nop, eso es para que tu maquina los reciba, efectivamente, pero la cuenta de correo (siguiendo el ejemplo anterior) info que? es un mismo usuario pero en dos dominios diferentes. Logicamente no vamos bien si yo envio correo a [EMAIL PROTECTED] y lo pueden leer dom1.com y dom2.com. Tampoco vamos bien si le digo al cliente que quiere poner dom2.com perdone, pero no puedo darle un correo que se llame info, otro usuario lo tiene. Creo que he conseguido explicarme un poquito mejor, no? Si Ahora te entendi. Pero creo que adicionalmente al problema que tienes con el Sendmail para calificar distintos ID con diferentes dominios virtuales, se presenta tambien el problema que como ese ID es una cuenta real no la podras tener definida doblemente en un ip o pc. Se me ocurre que lo que puedes hacer es lo que te dije para el .cw y en virtusertable poner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Declarando dos usuarios diferentes pero que para el que le escribe tienen el mismo id con diferentes dominios, supongo no te haga falta acompañar los id de @domreal.com Saludos - Humberto Morell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mini Debian sobre Zip
Hola a todos. Estoy intentando implementar una reducción de Debian para Zip (posíblemente Jaz... no se) y me gustaría saber si alguien tiene hecho algo sobre los que me pueda basar (el ZIP-Install mini-HOWTO del LDP es lo único que he encontrado y no es muy fino en lo que a Debian se refiere). Es algo que a mi me resultaría de utilidad y como pienso que a bastante gente igual también pues ahí queda eso por si alguien quiere echar un cable. El primer escollo que me encuentro es la modificación de boot-floppies para que tome los paquetes del CD y se vaya la Zip a grabarlos. Uso un rescue disk con núcleo 2.2.12 con soporte ppa 'built-in'. ¿Alguien puede orientarme un poco?, con la doc de boot-floppies no me aclaro ni a la de tres. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/linux/ ViguLinux PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey
Re: [off-topic] graciosillo casos veridicos
Hola Yo una vez leí un par de ellas de un chaval que trabajaba en un servicio técnico de ordenadores: Llama un cliente por teléfono algo enojado diciendo que hace una semana que compro el ordenador y ya se le ha roto... - ¿Que se le ha roto? - la repisa donde se pone la cocacola - ¿Perdón, que dice que se le ha roto? - Si, esa bandejita que sale al apretar un botón y que sirve para dejar las bebidas Sin comentarios... x-DDD Una señora llama por teléfono diciendo que tiene un CD que no le funcionadespués de casi una hora al teléfono, en la que aplicó todos sus conocimientos e incluso hizo lavar a la señora el CD 2 veces con mistol, se le enciende una lucecita y pregunta a la señora: - ¿Como mete el CD en la disquetera? - Pues con la parte brillante para arriba naturalmente. Esta la presencie yo personalmente aunque no es de ordenadores sino de CDs de músicaNos invita un amigo a mi mujer y a mi a cenar a su casa, después de la cena nos tomamos unas copitas oyendo música en su nuevo equipo estereo (lo normal vamos ;-) ), cuando se acaba el CD va la mujer de mi amigo y dice. Anda Javier levantate y pon la otra cara del CD (me dio la risa y espurree el viski en la pared de enfrente) Para terminar, si os gustan las historias veridicas en clave de humor os recomiendo que vayais a la web que aparece en mi firma y desde allí a la página del Oso Gracioso, en ella hay una historia sobre las tribulaciones de un profesor particular de ingles para directivos que es para troncharse de risa... (el profesor lo fue mio y el alumno se que es un alto directivo de Unilevel) [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Me gustaría saber donde encontrar más de estas... están muy bien en general aunque a algunas juraría que le faltan palabras o el que las escribio tambien es medio suagili... ¿Sabeis donde ver una web con más anécdotas de estas o dónde sacarlas? Saludos Daniel -- ===NaClU2=== _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Desde: 40º25'N 3º39'O _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ http://web.jet.es/ijalonso
Re: ipchains
El miércoles 29 de septiembre de 1999 a la(s) 20:00:19 +0200, Fernando Sanchez contaba: Igual tienes alguna regla antes que permite acceso a los puertos 1024 o algo así, y añadiendo (con -A) esta que dices no arreglas nada porque la pones después de alguna que ya lo deja pasar. Si es esto, deberías sustituir el -A por -I para insertarla al principio (ipchains -I input -s ij-9.arrakis.es -j DENY debería hacer bien eso que quieres, digo) Sí, también lo he probado pero nada. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.12Linux Registered User #87069
HP9000/300 cambio a Debian
Hola a todos, Como veo que lo de la reparación del HP 9000 y su fabuloso disco duro es un dolor de muelas por motivos de sistema operativo HP 8.0. He pensado en instalar un sistema operativo GNU LINUX para motorola 68040. He pensado en Debian porque me va muy bien en plataforma x86. Os comento entonces el problema de mi equipo. Es un equipo que posee dos discos duros (gruesos) SCSI. Pero carece por completo de disketera. Se ve que por aquel entonces no las debian necesitar. Lo que si está es conectado a una red. Dos son equipos debian para x86 (y con cdrom y acceso a internet) y un Solaris. ¿Cómo puedo hacer para instalar este debian? ¿Algún consejo? ¿Alternativas? Un saludo y muchas gracias por todo. Angel Carrasco -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0.2i mQGiBDfvYfcRBADZWD6125rYVJc4s9KV1AoYw8VtRWIV/JjyKRRHcgEbWyxY1xy0 qEuPpXUbj2yy3ar0AvZvgXSrNQYCEHobm7ABCpJxEoRAwU1eUdI3n3V/fi6R74wa c+7cMaQyxPWK6FRWkkg8C13nbKT1AOcxUU0cX5BM/qxvlYrHR/uBIxpQewCg/ygW tGP2/BeBDoPGiY+LPIuQUpsD/3F/19rVBvsPdeffPq+AUt23P+QOztpCb2tif7AY 1KEj+z+iWQ6uIt20atE3kuFEjaWC/g6WEB1E06gPpu/G7zBuuCu99s1Bv9Yga4Rm FaxrTaLgLqJekqvMbuWH2hmTOW9RlNWBGc9e6mKkP+myp27N0mzaKK/zcBHrWnjJ 4pYuBACFiDOQUSSjHT4/6ucJ5fySxW6+0k5n4yUekQ03Vd+voLfbCVf7l5SYLes+ sf3CLw0Ejv2q+ex+4i4DsjqptO1xBGtTA/gxd07pvVM3ahd6jYj8kW3xgec+5oKs CaPJcT9QKcLCBQNhqq8OTyU4Wsn4VPk/0ptXYSXz7HvmauZgkrQqQW5nZWwgQ2Fy cmFzY28gPGEuY2FycmFzY29AY3dvcmxkdGVsZS5jb20+iQBLBBARAgALBQI372H3 BAsDAgEACgkQblZFF/0/6nXgwgCeLyGJkX+JFlardwpd3BzrosKyEDMAniz3yejM 7a8sPq2WMefZbb0ZaEGkuQQNBDfvYfkQEAD5GKB+WgZhekOQldwFbIeG7GHszUUf Dtjgo3nGydx6C6zkP+NGlLYwSlPXfAIWSIC1FeUpmamfB3TT/+OhxZYgTphluNgN 7hBdq7YXHFHYUMoiV0MpvpXoVis4eFwL2/hMTdXjqkbM+84X6CqdFGHjhKlP0YOE qHm274+nQ0YIxswdd1ckOErixPDojhNnl06SE2H22+slDhf99pj3yHx5sHIdOHX7 9sFzxIMRJitDYMPj6NYK/aEoJguuqa6zZQ+iAFMBoHzWq6MSHvoPKs4fdIRPyvMX 86RA6dfSd7ZCLQI2wSbLaF6dfJgJCo1+Le3kXXn11JJPmxiO/CqnS3wy9kJXtwh/ CBdyorrWqULzBej5UxE5T7bxbrlLOCDaAadWoxTpj0BV89AHxstDqZSt90xkhkn4 DIO9ZekX1KHTUPj1WV/cdlJPPT2N286Z4VeSWc39uK50T8X8dryDxUcwYc58yWb/ Ffm7/ZFexwGq01uejaClcjrUGvC/RgBYK+X0iP1YTknbzSC0neSRBzZrM2w4DUUd D3yIsxx8Wy2O9vPJI8BD8KVbGI2Ou1WMuF040zT9fBdXQ6MdGGzeMyEstSr/POGx KUAYEY18hKcKctaGxAMZyAcpesqVDNmWn6vQClCbAkbTCD1mpF1Bn5x8vYlLIhkm uquiXsNV6z3WFwACAg//fJz4teO8j8I+vrhCHsPJs2x+6AMsF4a9KvgBFoLlaVpA EXClbY8tTGFwZOuhwpTwTVXUNCTMPD9oyStWL3DjeReN1WFI4ny0X6t2vyUgmLJo 6fmT1pEZGsaJAxkxRgktLKnrwUlz+mBd/AFiW/kU5urOwKbyOaCM10M0ouQJtKJJ lA/Tuw9qp9cUzr88zqUe5j6qB0szzFKTs5RGiH+nqTBlFqkGqt5P/hvE54r/fcOK rN6M36x9vBDSlqS5t2YyNBo82vq35b1tmLiSBe0avKzVwSN5WxGBKUDAptcD1lET GMYxGCkUB4LgPncN974BrEg30dmpbEGiAZmP/7hkz+GoQBcx7tQJYjQpIlZDuXRw 3NcMJalxVEmkEpTvxVZeHKCf5BQgeH8IyZuNOe9IDqtJ0PkTHbL3xWfb6yNizgm6 CqMOgdu5U75RaM2WE5EQBqokImPsiIHyPyL4Nc8GbQti6+uRKYGvIZ/R+RhEx56b BgRM9j8R5PVc35SL97IqxWQe/m7FpUkgrdi5QMco4pb2KV0MfDnW+ZQ0oTZlYNVJ FwW36L72ki/QP09IGm4st3Bp7iPzhKihyf9PCB2NnY9vKpXgFVHoeQ4kEIbyqYK9 9BtZPsidvri9wJAP9qYxoLPfdUYYFylw10u5tZ02IoRyzjZp5wW7JDEPIaUccCeJ AEYEGBECAAYFAjfvYfkACgkQblZFF/0/6nU0mwCeNy+yMNK0Pn76dR6CZxGK+RIf xVIAn0DNDEaq7QgjrFtonjOJ01gmFi7j =GnKk -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Re: ipchains
El miércoles 29 de septiembre de 1999 a la(s) 11:55:23 +0200, RESET contaba: Si la dirección de destino es correcta (y tienes una RSDI) debería estar funcionando. Eso sí, el scan te va a llegar igual, tengas o no tengas firewall. ¿Comor? Si le pongo un DENY, el paquete entrante que cumple con la regla se descarta. O sea, no se acepta. Sólo resta saber quién ve antes al paquete, si el firewall o el iplog. Pero yo creo que lo ve antes el fw no?, que para eso está en el núcleo. Por tanto deduzco que si el iplog lo ve, es que el fw lo ha permitido. Y eso es lo que me mosquea. Claro que si lo que quieres es j***r... ;-). Quien me hace un port scan me intenta joder a mí, así que le planto un DENY alegremente :^). De todos modos, ij-9.arrakis.es es una IP dinámica, de modo que no te vale de nada tenerla en un firewall. Ya sé, pero contengo el scan y luego de noche hago una pequeña limpieza de rules jeje. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.12Linux Registered User #87069
Re: gmc
El viernes 01 de octubre de 1999 a la(s) 00:34:47 +0200, Andres Herrera contaba: On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 06:36:10PM +0200, Hue-Bond wrote: Bien, probaré gmc entonces :^) ¿No te vale el simple y comun filerunner? Plis hazme un 'dpkg -S bin/filerunner' ;^) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.12Linux Registered User #87069
Re: [off-topic] graciosillo casos veridicos
El miércoles 29 de septiembre de 1999 a la(s) 23:39:10 +0200, Han Solo contaba: Hola a todos, os mando una cosilla que seguro que os gusta. Más de uno se habrá visto en una de estas. :^DDD Jo, qué sanos son a veces los off-topic :^D [esto es *retro-computación*, y lo demntos] [confieso que me costó recuperarme de [¿por qu no hablarllas?] Pero parece haber algún pequeño problema con los tildes. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.12Linux Registered User #87069
Re: por favor solicito informacion
El jueves 30 de septiembre de 1999 a la(s) 00:29:56 +, JUAN CARLOS CONTRERAS contaba: seria posible por favor que me ofrecieran informacion completa sobre el shell de linux, interpretes de lineas y la rutas de busqueda, le agradeceria mucho su servicio prestado..! No existe el shell de Linux, pero el más usado es bash. ¿Información sobre bash? Sí, mucha; en 'man bash'. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.12Linux Registered User #87069
Re: Dominios virtuales en el sendmail
El viernes 01 de octubre de 1999 a la(s) 00:12:36 -0700, Ricard P.G. contaba: Creo que he conseguido explicarme un poquito mejor, no? sea como sea todo esto ocurre con una maquina con una IP. O sea, en un ordenata con una IP quieres que [EMAIL PROTECTED] y [EMAIL PROTECTED] sean dos personas distintas... te veo un poco chungo. Algo se podrá hacer, imagino, pero buf. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano In love with TuX - Linux 2.2.12Linux Registered User #87069
Re: Imprimir
Hola: Bueno pues uno de los problemas lo he resuelto instalando el paquete html2ps, creo, y ya imprime ficheros .html .gif .jpg, pero de texto llano aún no puedo. Joder, como me gusta la Debian y eso que vengo de SuSE, pero la Debian se deja de hacer siempre y cuando aciertes :-). Bueno pues eso una mano -- Powered by GNU/Linux Debian 2.1 Slink Linux Register User: 90717 Linux Register Machine: 81353
Re: ($BL5Bj(B)
jajaajajajajaajajajaajajajaajajaajaajaajajaaj Saludos -- Daniel H. Perez a veces Tango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fui lo que crei, soy lo que esta pasando (Charly Garcia) Linux 2.2.11 Usuario Reg. N. 85920 PGP Public Key 0x4A2036B5
Re: Cron root@debian run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
Hola a todos. Duda existencial. Antes de nada, quiero mostrar mi asombro, porque sin hacer yo nada especial, habro mi inbox y descubro que _el sistema_ me ha mandado un mensaje a _mí_ :-) Jeje, resulta gracioso... bueno al grano: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Cron Daemon wrote: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: error: /etc/logrotate.conf:23 unkown group 'utmp' run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1 /etc/cron.daily/suidmanager: /usr/X11R6/bin/X PERMISSION MISMATCH: was root.root 777 changed to root.root 4755 File /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered but not installed Obviamente me informa de algún error raro oscuro del que no tengo ni idea qué significa. ¿Alguien podría decirme qué es lo que he hecho mal, cómo lo harreglo, cómo hago para evitar que vuelva a suceder, y alguna referencia a manuales o URLs para que me informe más sobre el tema antes de preguntar en la lista? (gatillo rápido, que se dice). Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gogosoftware - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/ WinError 01E: Timing error - Please wait. And wait. And wait. And...
Re: Cron root@debian run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz wrote: especial, habro mi inbox y descubro que _el sistema_ me ha mandado un ^ No me torturéis, ¿fale? :-) Ya se sabe, uno que todavía no ha configurado el ispell... Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gogosoftware - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/ Do you mean you don't see those montains?
Marvin 1.2 - AYUDA
Hola a todos, si alguien ha conseguido compilar el programa Marvin 1.2, por favor que contacte conmigo en privado. Necesito ayuda. Gracias. Sergio Blanco Cuaresma Registered Linux user #140941 http://come.to/sblanco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Error al compilar kernel 2.0.37
Hola a todos, He intentado compilar el kernel 2.0.37 pero me da el siguiente error al ejecutar make bzImage (tambien con make zImage). Alguien sabe que ocurre? He realizado los mismos pasos que al compilar el kernel 2.2.10. No lo entiendo. /usr/src/linux-2.0.37/include/asm/string.h:443: warning: control reaches end of non-void function /usr/src/linux-2.0.37/include/asm/string.h: In function `__constant_c_and_count_memset': /usr/src/linux-2.0.37/include/asm/string.h:594: warning: control reaches end of non-void function init/main.c: In function `get_options': init/main.c:269: warning: subscript has type `char' make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 Gracias. Sergio Blanco Cuaresma Registered Linux user #140941 http://come.to/sblanco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic] graciosillo casos veridicos
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Agustin MuNoz wrote: PD: please la próxima vez evita enviar otra vez el *todo* el msg original, ten en cuenta que YA lo habiamos leido, gracias :) No sé porqué te molestas en decirselo, no te van a hacer caso X'D Tienes que intentar convencerle de que si escribe menos, nos sale más barato a todos, como en Fido X' Si quieres saber cómo pertenecer a Paco Brufal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fidonet, la red de correo con más Fidonet 2:346/3.68 CALIDAD del Mundo y SIN SPAM, preguntame como. ...D-Leria. Buzz Fuzz. 1993 --- Pine 4.10 + Sendmail 8.9.3 * Origin: FAQ de R34.LINUX: http://www.linuxfreak.com/~r34_linux (2:346/3.68)
Re: [off-topic] graciosillo casos veridicos
Paco Brufal dijo: No sé porqué te molestas en decirselo, no te van a hacer caso X'D Tienes que intentar convencerle de que si escribe menos, nos sale más barato a todos, como en Fido X' ¡Ché Paco! Lo tuyo es una suposición, mira que si no lo sabía y ahora cae en la cuenta Por cierto las meigas de los taglines esta vez no han funcionado ya que tengo uno que dice: ... Ecología en la Red: No mandes ni un byte de más y no lo ha elegido ;-( -- Roberto Claassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Nueva news [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ados (dedicada al güindozer 2000)
Re: Imprimir
Pedro A . Vizcaíno wrote: ... Bueno pues uno de los problemas lo he resuelto instalando el paquete html2ps, creo, y ya imprime ficheros .html .gif .jpg, pero de texto llano aún no puedo. ... Si puedes imprimir postscript ya tienes el 99% listo. La mayoría de las aplicaciones con algún soporte para imprimir suponen que tu impresora es postscript. Para convertir texto común a postscript hay muchas alternativas, que recuerde: -Abrir el archivo con emacs y hacer tools-Postscriptprintbuffer. -enscript (del paquete enscript, sección text). -mpage (del paquete mpage, sección text). Yo suelo usar el último, además de convertir a postscript te permite poner más de una página virtual en una página física. Lo podés usar para convertir un archivo en otro, o como pipe para mandar derecho a la impresora, por ejemplo: mpage -2 mi_file.txt | lpr genera un archivo postscript con el texto que saca del archivo ascii mi_file.txt, poniendo 2 páginas en una y lo envía a la impresora. Bonus: también acepta como input archivos postscript. -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()=\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm
Re: squid
--- Ruben Dario Rojas Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: necesito aprender a configurar el squid lo tengo montado en linux red had 6.0 por favor cualquier ayuda es buena gracias espero respuesta La verdad es que el mismo archivo /etc/squid.conf biene ya muy comentado. Sino prueba en http://squid.nlanr.net/ y sino pues en /usr/doc/squid/* hay de todo y mas = . (O) See you, Nos vemos, Ens veiem ab. o M http://www.doneval.speedhost.com d88b. /| .. /:M\--- 8PYPY88 (O)[]XX[]I:K+}= TOR NEC DONAVAM == 8|o||o|88 \| ^^ \:W/--- 8'.88 o W Microsoft gives you Windows ... 8`._.' Y8 (O) Linux gives you the whole house d/ `8b. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Justera timingparametrar för 2.2-framebuffert
Jag tror det finns ett program som heter fbtune eller något sådant. fbset verkar det som. (Har inte 2.2 själv) Och du klagar på att jag fortfarande körde 2.0 :-) Nu om jag kunde komma på varför X inte fungerar ordentligt från 2.2... :-( -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ - and God said: nohup make World World.log
Re: Justera timingparametrar för 2.2-framebuffert
Nu om jag kunde komma på varför X inte fungerar ordentligt från 2.2... :-( Borde väl inte vara några problem? Uppgraderade du till glibc 2.1 också? När jag kör med fb för ATI Mach64 (vilket är vad jag har) så blir X-skärmen trasig när jag startar den. När jag kör med fb för VESA så fungerar det, men å andra sidan får jag en monstermarkör (block) som ser hemsk ut. Sen har jag inte riktigt luskat ut hur fbset fungerar, speciellt som manualsidan säger sig själv vara hemskt utdaterad :-/ -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ - and God said: nohup make World World.log
Re: Justera timingparametrar för 2.2-framebuffert
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, peter karlsson wrote: Vilken version av XFree86 kör du? Den som finns i potato. 3.3.5. Då borde det ju fungera. Vilken version av 2.2 kör du? Har du kompilerat den själv, eller kör du med ett debianpaket?
Re: Justera timingparametrar för 2.2-framebuffert
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, peter karlsson wrote: Då borde det ju fungera. Vilken version av 2.2 kör du? 2.2.12 Fungerar bra för mig hemma med samma X-version. Fast med ett annat grafikkort iofs (RIVA TNT2). Har du kompilerat den själv, eller kör du med ett debianpaket? Både och :-) (make-kpkg) Borde ju inte vara några problem.
Re: Justera timingparametrar för 2.2-framebuffert
Fungerar bra för mig hemma med samma X-version. Fast med ett annat grafikkort iofs (RIVA TNT2). Med det kortet kör du knappast Mach64-fb :-) -- \\// Peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ When answering to mailing list or news posting, please do not Cc me personally. Thanks.
Re: Install with floppies and NFS
Seth Are you using rawrite or dd, or just a straight copy? A straight copy Seth will never work, but a rawrite (from dos) or dd (under a unix) will do Seth the job nicely. :) Sorry! Read the #$%! manual, right? :) -- Jordan Howarth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CSIRO Mathematical and Information Sciences Ph: (07) 3214 2465 Fax: (07) 3214 2480
Re: make-kpkg questions
You should be able to achieve what you want by editing /usr/share/kernel-package/rules and the various preinst, postinst, prerm and postrm scripts. Also see 'man kernel-pkg.conf' for a way to put vmlinuz in /boot instead of /. It sounds like it may be easier to let it install per the defaults and then run a script which renames the files (and edits lilo.conf). On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:24:10PM +0200, peter karlsson wrote: Hi! Just learned to use make-kpkg, *but*, I want to do some things differently: 1. How do I tell it not to create a /vmlinuz symlink in the root directory? I want my root directory clean (i.e no files at all) (Also, it complained when there wasn't a /vmlinuz already, thought I was doing a new install) 2. How do I tell it to use another name for my kernels image file (I've never really liked vmlinuz anyway)? -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ - and God said: nohup make World World.log -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
cyclades install / kernel config
Hi i am about to install the cyclades cyclom-y driver but after reading the README file it refers to the install program pointing to the /usr/src/linux directory. I have installed slink with kernel 2.0.36 from the cheapbytes CD and I appear to have no /usr/src/linux directory. After running the install script I have to configure the kernel with the make config command executed from the /usr/src/linux... My concern is that i do not think the install script will work because i do not have the kernel files in the /usr/src/linux directory. What shall I do? Thanx
Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?
John Hasler wrote: Mario O.de Menezes writes: That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes from year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1 or 2 days till it changes. I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with daylight savings time in a tropical country? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. Why should anyone bother with daylight savings time in ANY country? - Kris
Re: Problems with lilo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, RESET wrote: : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jason Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason:: I think this problem is with lilo. I am riding the Jason:: bleeding edge upgrading roughly every night. Well Jason:: yesterday when I upgraded there was an update for Jason:: lilo. Now I can't boot from the HD. It tells me this: Jason:: LILO boot: Jason:: Lodaing Linux Jason:: Uncompressing Linux... Jason:: crc error Jason:: -- system halted I had the same error, but solved it compiling a new kernel using `make bzlilo'. Just out of curiousity, did you happen to do an apt-get upgrade about the same time? The old version of lilo that Brian Servis mentioned is now available on the mirrors; if you installed it then that solved the problem, not rebuilding the kernel. Quick check: dpkg -l lilo. If the version installed is not 22, then you have the old version. - -- finger for PGP public key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBN/P86b7M/9WKZLW5AQEzEQP5AfgpUELZm7y6opAXW3I6YNpiOhyNs4xJ 3GQ6CAcPnVBSz1PWBrligHCBlejjb3ttil8ISE+a1wIQBIHmiFWVHCjJ/rly7Gxa 5I9lCATli1N0omZBNYukybWJd584v9O4/C+ykRT+cw7oykIjqJEGWXzSKG/eY9LJ 7OkQNVPLr8A= =YX++ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kernel question: From bootdisk to hard drive
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Please try to keep lines to 76 chars in length. On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, David Kanter wrote: I've got a custom bootdisk that works fine. I moved the kernel to my home directory using dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/david/vmlinuz. (I also used cat /dev/fd0 /home/david/vmlinuz and it did the same thing.) Everything is OK, except the file size of this new kernel looks like its the size of an unformatted disk, i.e. 1.47 Mb. The past kernel was about 350Kb, but had extraneous stuff. Probably it is exactly the size of an unformatted disk, since it's basically an exact copy of the floppy. Likely only a part of that file is the actual kernel, while the rest is boot information or empty space. I reran lilo and booted off the hard drive, and the new kernel works fine. Should the fact that this custom/slimmer kernel is larger in size than the stock Debian kernel (by about 4X) worry me? Just out of curiousity, why can't you install the kernel normally, using make-kpkg (from the kernel-package package) or the directions in the kernel docs? - -- finger for PGP public key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBN/QCh77M/9WKZLW5AQHpewP9EdO6VDp0E0SULuOK3xHIdEPCarWy1Zs8 mRen88fViVZsUYGfdz9+D0ISsrqoXeDM2unpaHWl3jWHT0aeMFGutGX9UlVOUzAf JdJacoOIBYiOUOsBRmDh82WY4EYguRwDXAPobLsSHWNVSdiIaWYn0a05xtHQbhW6 fP8sYgI6GVY= =ZVbI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Problems with printing
I have two, not unconnected problems I suspect, with printing. The first is directly from linux, in that when it comes out the printer, its stepped across the page and is unreadable. Is there an easy method to fix that? The second is via samba. At the present moment the server is not visible on the network from windows boxes but directories can be mounted. At the same time though, printing returns the network name cannot be found when attempted from a windows box. Any ideas? cheers Brian -- Brian Ross, Network Manager Voice +61-1-2-6279-8336 John Curtin School of Medical Research Fax +61-1-2-6247-4823 Australian National University
Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?
Kristopher Johnson writes: Why should anyone bother with daylight savings time in ANY country? If there is anything dumber that daylight savings time, it is daylight savings time in the tropics. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
[OT] thanks
Well, 100+ messages a day finally swamped me. I want to thank all of you for bringing me into the debian fold so quickly and nicely. I am unsubbing from the list; I am sure I will be back. Thanks for all the help. :) -- Seth Arnold | http://www.willamette.edu/~sarnold/ Hate spam? See http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ for help Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Bye Seth, thanx for the help
Re: trivial egcc question...
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 05:29:00PM -0400, Jonathan Lupa wrote: Is there a way to set an environment variable with the args I want for the egcc line? The traditional approach is to use a Makefile. However... For example, I like STL, and am always typing `egcc -Wall -lstdc++ foo.cpp`. It seems to me (from my DOS experience g) that I should be able to do something like: bash:~$ export cl=-Wall -lstdc++ bash:~$ egcc foo.cpp The command g++ (also known as c++) exists to do exactly this job - it will do all the magic required to link C++ code. There's also a command g77 for Fortran 77 and so on for the other languages gcc supports. Any gcc command will compile any supported language: one of the main reasons for having these front ends is that they do things like linking in required libraries. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpgZ4Bn5iCh2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cron: daemon.log grep mail to root
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 04:03:33PM -0700, bwarsing wrote: [Please wrap your lines at 80 columns and put a blank line between paragraphs - it makes your mail much more legible and easier to reply to] I'm a newbie, but I need to set up cron to grep the auth attempts from /var/log/daemon.log and mail me (root) the results daily. Can anyone suggest a means of doing this? As it stands, it only logs weekly. As well, if there is anyone who can point me to some good info on using cron effectively, I would appreciate it. The logcheck program contains a utility that does the appropriate magic and is pretty neat itself. Unfortunately it's not packaged (although someone said they would make a package just recently), I don't know the web site and the author has neglected to include it in the distribution. Searching on http://www.securityfocus.com/ will turn it up, though - look at free tools then intrusion detection IIRC. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpYFIFNIvRPF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's this in my daemon.log
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 04:01:10PM +0200, Patrik Magnusson wrote: This has been popping up for a couple of days now. Anyone know what it means? Sep 27 15:58:10 pedgr634 identd[26739]: started Sep 27 15:58:10 pedgr634 identd[26746]: request_thread: read(10, ..., 1023) failed: Connection reset by peer Apparently, a remote machine tried to connect to your ident server but for whatever reason it closed the connection permaturely. I probably wouldn't worry about it. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpjForw2nq3i.pgp Description: PGP signature
A travelogue installing Debian 2.1 on a laptop
I was updating my page on installing Debian GNU/Linux on the Dell Latitude CPi D300XT when it occurred to me that a lot of the material there might be of interest in general. It's a log of how to install Debian on this laptop (and maybe installing Debian in general) and aims to be fairly descriptive. In case anyone is interested in it http://www.dit.csiro.au/~gjw/linux/dlcpid300xt.html Warning: I've been a silent user of Debian for many years but would not claim to be a Debian expert Of course, updates are welcome! Cheers, Graham
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why no package status feature for dpkg?
Why does dpkg not have a way to check the cksum's of the package's contents. I deleted a bunch of man pages, and now I find myself having to write perl scripts to coerce dpkg into releasing the information about missing files. And even then, I won't know if a file is really undamaged. It wouldn't be such a problem except that I did an FTP install, and a gnome upgrade, which needed some other things from potatoe (fortunately Quayl has givene up the ghoste). Plus I upgraded to the current kernel from potato because my new hardware runs Linux unreliably and I wanted to make sure it wasn't due to old drivers. Plus I needed some gnome things out of CVS to get the latest version, because gnome developers have this nasty habit of writing their applications to the current libraries, not the stable libraries. So who *knows* what I'm running now, and whether it corresponds to anything remotely resembling Official Debian 2.0. Somebody remind me again how .deb is the perfect packaging format, sublime in all the details of its creation, without flaw in its every detail, and how all others (should) bow low to it. I still haven't found an explanation of why RPM sucks so badly that Debian developers cannot fix it. I mean, xterm sucked so badly that somebody had to create xterm-debian and break everybody's termcap, so why not RPM-debian and break everybody else's RPM manipulators? -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kristopher Johnson writes: Why should anyone bother with daylight savings time in ANY country? If there is anything dumber that daylight savings time, it is daylight savings time in the tropics. It isn't much better in the north, where daylight savings time may shift sunrise from 1AM to 2AM, and sunset from 11PM to midnight. Of course, it never really gets dark during that time, so you don't even notice it. -- Carl Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any FAQ's on setting up a news server?
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 06:19:19PM -0500, Charles Lewis wrote: What are all the components I need in order to setup a news server so that I can connect from a remote computer. I currently have the nntp and cnews packages installed, although don't know what else to do to configure them or This depends on what you want to do. Do you want to provide a news server to a large number of people or are you only interested in reading news? In the former case you want to set up a large news server package, but in the latter case you can get away with a much simpler program like Leafnode. If you're on a dialup connection you're almost certainly in the latter group. The standard full news server these days is INN - cnews/nntp is an older system. I haven't used it in a while, but from what I remember the documentation supplied is pretty complete. It can be a bit tricky to find everything you need, but all the information is in there. When using this sort of system you normally agree with several other systems that you will send each other news, and your servers push the news at each other whenever they get new news. As well as INN and cnews there's also Diablo and some commercial packages, but Diablo isn't packaged for Debian and the commercial packages are commercial and often not for Linux. Diablo does have a nice reputation for configurability, though. setup newsgroups. Do I also need suck? I can't seem to find any FAQ or HOWTO You need suck if you're not running a full news server but want to use INN or nntp/cnews. It (or an equivalent package such as newsx) talks to another news server like a client, downloads news and then feeds it into your own news server and also does the reverse translation. OTOH, it is very much easier to use Leafnode. This will do all the work of inn and suck that is needed to support a small userbase, but doesn't scale very well to large numbers of users and groups. on this topic. Also, where would I get my newsfeed from? Charles Lewis, Director of Administrative Computing Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, TX Does your university LAN have a news server on it already? If you're on the LAN and there is one you probably don't want to use a server at all but to simply point your client at it. If there is no server then one or more of your IP providers (redundancy is good) will probably provide a feed. They should be able give you quite a bit of help with setting up. Otherwise, places like news.software.nntp are good places to look. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpG1xpxDfAdq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mathematica
It works just fine on my potato system. I suspect this is because the whole thing is statically linked to its own libraries, etc. The only gripe I have with it is I have a dual processor system, but as it was compiled under a 2.0.x environment, there is no SMP support. I really like the package, but SMP support would be cool. Sean Nathan Smith wrote: Hello all, We're (I'm) setting up a computer lab here at Univ. Texas at Tyler (nevermind the address above), and I'd like to run Debian as the OS in the lab. We're going to need to have Mathematica on the computers in the lab, and according to the Wolfram web page Mathematica will run on any ELF Linux system, but it's my understanding that Debian is not ELF but glibc6. Is there a way to make this work? Does anybody have Mathematica running on a Debian system? I have Debian on my machine here at work and would like to not have to switch to Red Hat or something else since I'm already somewhat familiar with what I have, but if it's not possible to run Mathematica I'll have to - or if it's too much work I'll have to as well since I have other duties. Anyone able to answer my questions? Thanks for your time, Nate -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Why am I getting ? instead of apostrophe in Netscape?
You can thank Microsoft for that one. If you have a webpage and use a
Microsoft tool
to edit it, it exends and ebraces the font scheme into one that only renders
correctly under Windows. All it really means, though, is that some MS editing
tool
was used sometime in the document's editing history.
Sean
Phillip Deackes wrote:
Recently I have noticed I am getting a question mark instead of an
apostrophe on web pages. The apostrophe works fine everywhere else (')
Any ideas what is wrong?
--
Phillip Deackes
Debian Linux (Potato)
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g32pbm - gs - pbm2g3 - newslock
Hi where can i find the above files?? are they part of a utils package?? they are used for fax conversion etc. Thanx
Re: g32pbm - gs - pbm2g3 - newslock
*- On 1 Oct, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about g32pbm - gs - pbm2g3 - newslock Hi where can i find the above files?? are they part of a utils package?? they are used for fax conversion etc. Use the 'Search the Contents ...' search at the bottom of http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages.html. As an example a search for g32pbm returned FILE PACKAGE --- usr/bin/g32pbm comm/mgetty-fax usr/man/man1/g32pbm.1.gzcomm/mgetty-fax So you would need to install the mgetty-fax package. This search just greps the Contents-arch.gz file that is found on your favorite mirror. I keep a local copy on hand and search that. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: eth0: unknown interface...
It may not help, but I installed debian on my laptop using a laplink cable and it was not too difficult to set up. I was planning on using an ethernet card, but I couldn't get one right away... so I spent $10 on a laplink cable instead. Hugo van der Merwe wrote: Hello, I have installed the debian base system on a laptop, but now I need to install the rest over a network (from another brilliant working Debian machine). For this to work, I must get the pcmcia network card working... I installed the same kernel package I installed on anther laptop, and the pcmcia-modules package that was compiled with it, and am using the same network card. However, even with this kernel, eth0 is still an unknown device. How does Debian Linux get to know eth0? I though it was only in the kernel, but clearly it isn't. Or what modules must I load with modprobe? Thanks in advance, Hugo van der Merwe -- ps. Please ensure replies are also sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I do not subscribe to the mailing list, and I mistrust the news server I read the list through. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
pgcc compiler for slink?
Has anyone successfully patched and compiled a pgcc/egcs package for Slink? I was able to patch for Potato using the gcc source package and a slightly older gcc source tarball patched with the pgcc patches. I recently updated one of my testing machines to Potato, and the patched gcc seems to be working fine. Unfortunately, the Potato gcc source package requires the Potato debhelper, which won't compile without versioned perl, and the slink egcs package doesn't patch with any pgcc patch files. :/ Is there any documentation on compiling for glibc 2.0 on a glibc 2.1 system? And how could I verify that the patched compiler is actually producing optimised code? (In my case for AMD K6 with MMX) -- Ferret no baka
Slink to Potato
Hi, I know that the basic issues of my question have been asked many times here previously. But, time goes on and things change. Maybe this all too important issue needs to be addressed again. When I talked with some Debian folks at Linux World, they indicated that Potato was fairly stable and that I could safely upgrade a Slink installation to Potato without problems. However, when looking at the mailing list archives, it seems that it isn't so. For one, perl and everything it depends on is broken. Ooops! There was some talk about putting out an interim release with updated packages. That talk seems to have died out. There was also some talk about bringing the latest applications from Unstable to Stable so that Stable remains up to date, which is kind of what they do with the Linux kernel. Without some mechanism to do this, Debian is badly outdated. Slink still ships with Enlightenment 0.14, Gnome 0.30 and LyX 0.12--my favorite tools are hopelessly unusable. I need a 2.2 kernel before I can use Debian on my main box. But, I am experimenting with Slink on a small Pentium box. I must say that everything works wonderfully. I can apt-get through my big box's ip-chains. Everything is cool except for the legacy major components, like the windows managers. I want to upgrade the packages to the latest. I know that many Debian users do this because nobody could remain happy with standard Slink for long. Is there a standard place for updated packages? If there isn't, there should be. At least I want the latest released Gnome, Enlightenment, LyX and GIMP--all the major packages which take so much effort to compile and install from tarballs. Somebody has done this. Where do I start? What can we do to help others with this common problem? Thank you ahead of time. Regards, Arne Flones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slink to Potato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I talked with some Debian folks at Linux World, they indicated that Potato was fairly stable and that I could safely upgrade a Slink installation to Potato without problems. However, when looking at the mailing list archives, it seems that it isn't so. For one, perl and everything it depends on is broken. Ooops! I've been slowly upgrading my packages from slink to potato, and frankly, have never had a single problem. I was nervous about upgrading perl, because I've seen all sorts of veiled references to possible hosage (although I've never seen a concise statement of the actual problem), but eventually I just did it, and removed the old perl. Result? No problems, everything seems to work perfectly. Perhaps there are a few packages that crash and burn, but I apparently don't use any of them. -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
Upgradeing to 2.2 kernel broke X
Hi! I just upgraded to a 2.2 kernel (from 2.0.38), running a virtual framebuffer (ATI Mach64), and now my X Windows doesn't work, the picture is *extremely* distorted. Console mode (which also is graphics now) works just fine. I'm running on a PC, and my card is, according to SuperProbe: First video: Super-VGA Chipset: ATI 264GT-IIc (3D Rage IIc) (Port Probed) Memory: 4096 Kbytes RAMDAC: ATI Mach64 integrated 15/16/24/32-bit DAC w/clock (with 8-bit wide lookup tables) (programmable for 6/8-bit wide lookup tables) Attached graphics coprocessor: Chipset: ATI Mach64 Memory: 4096 Kbytes I like the framebuffer and stuff, but it seems like if I should switch back to 2.0.38 :-/ -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ - and God said: nohup make World World.log
Re: Slink to Potato
I've been slowly upgrading my packages from slink to potato, and frankly, have never had a single problem. I was nervous about upgrading perl, because I've seen all sorts of veiled references to possible hosage (although I've never seen a concise statement of the actual problem), but eventually I just did it, and removed the old perl. Result? No problems, everything seems to work perfectly. Perhaps there are a few packages that crash and burn, but I apparently don't use any of them. -Miles That's great. This is what I've heard, but not what I see in the mailing list archive where people ask about problems with Potato and they are answered only That's what unstable means. In other words, you're on your own, pal. Some people just don't have the luxury of working with Unstable. However, much of the software released, like Gnome, GIMP, LyX and such *is* stable. Enlightenment 0.15.x is quite stable, albeit incomplete. It is no less stable than the 0.14.6 that ships on the Slink CDs. So what I'd like to see is a collection of upgrades to the current Stable from the Unstable chain, just the way its done in the Linux kernel. This will keep everybody happy and will delay the obsolescense of Stable. Right now, I wouldn't recommend Slink to anybody. It's just too out of date. I'm only playing around with it because I have a need for it in the future. What can we do to get this accomplished? I'm willing to put in some work to get this ball going. Does anybody else see this as worthwhile? Regards, Arne
fvwm 2.2 and missing menu items
I just installed Debian 2.2 after reformatting my old Slink partition. I noticed that as root I had my fvwm 2.2 menus as I always had them with the old version (2.0.46-BETA I believe) in Slink. However, if I ran fvwm 2.2 as a normal user, I got a menu that basically let me exit and nothing else. The .fvwm2rc file in my home directory does nothing but start xterm and use xv to put a background on my screen. Is there some change I need to make so that fvwm 2.2 will operate correctly? Thanks, Alec
Re: Upgradeing to 2.2 kernel broke X
I just upgraded to a 2.2 kernel (from 2.0.38), running a virtual framebuffer (ATI Mach64), and now my X Windows doesn't work, the picture is *extremely* distorted. Console mode (which also is graphics now) works just fine. I switched to the VESA framebuffer, and now it works. But does anyone know why the heck the cursor suddenly became a block instead of just an underscore, and how I change that? -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ - and God said: nohup make World World.log
installation of potato doesn't work...
hello everyone! i set up a debian mirror and want to install potato using the nfs exported files from my mirror. but when selecting install within dselect there are several problems: 1.) the first time dselect aborts when installing libc6. it complains about apt which is already installed but with a too low version number. i could fix this with removing apt before invoking dselect. maybe the problem is that potato uses the same file for the base system as slink, base2_1.tgz. probably the packages from potato need newer base packages than are contained in base2_1.tgz. 2.) the second time dselect aborts when installing libpam0g because libpam-runtime isn't installed yet. but the deb file for libpam-runtime is available. i fixed this by installing libpam-runtime by hand berfore starting dselect. i gave up at the third error. i'm nut sure, if this is a problem with my mirror or with the unstable potato release. did you have the same or similar problems? are these bugs in the potato release? can someone send me a control file for his debian mirror? i tried a test installation of slink from my mirrored files an it worked without problems. to me it looks like the potato installation doesn't work right now. any hints? thank you! bye. -r -- @ Rainer Hubovsky @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ Ferdinandstr. 29/15, A-1020 Vienna @ Tel/Fax: +43 1 214 24 48
Re: How to filter this list?
*- On 30 Sep, Stefan Blum wrote about How to filter this list? Hi, how can I filter the incoming stuff from this list by using ''elm''? My $HOME/.elm/filter-rules contains the following entries: ... if (from = debian-user@lists.debian.org) then save /home/meru/blum/Mail/linux if (sender = debian-user@lists.debian.org) then save /home/meru/blum/Mail/linux ... Because some of the mails to the lists are sent by using ``CC'', the mechanism does not work correctly. Is there a way out? I _have_to_ use elm and filter ;-( When I was using elm's filter I used if (to contains debian) then save ... Thanks.. that seems to work! The 'to' should catch the To and Cc lines. Just curious, why do you _have_to_ to use filter? I am not a system admin. The only way (that I know) to configure elm-filter remains in $HOME/.elm/filter-rules :( Regards, Stefan -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?
John Hasler wrote: I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with daylight savings time in a tropical country? Despite some opinions, we have a large industrial park, 180 million people, a high energy comsumption. There is no outdoors with Coming soon... Coca Cola!. Brazil is not one immense rain forest, as some people would think. Taupter
organizing pptp network over Internet with Win98 and linux
Hi all, Has anyone tried to make subj. with win98 comps acting as pptp-client and linux-box as pptp server? The problem is: we have private ip LAN in one office. Another comp (win98) is located in another far away office. It has it's own Internet connection. The first office also has Internet connection (with static ip address). We need the comp in the second office to be available on our private ip LAN. Any suggestions will be very appreciated. Alex
Re: How to filter this list?
Hello, I am interrested in filtering the incoming mail. On my opinion, my situation is quite different from the explained in this thread. I am the administrator of a PC K6-3 400MHz running Debian Linux. I use a mail server (mercurio.des.fi.udc.es) to send and receive mails. [mercurio:/home/des/becarios/arenaz]$ uname -a SunOS mercurio 5.7 Generic sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCclassic My question is: What do I need in order to filter the incomming mail received in the server? Can I manage using elm? I am currently using netscape messenger to filter the mail, but, first, I have to download the mail to my machine and, second, perform the filtering action by hand. You can imagine that this a tedious and embarrasing task. I would be very grateful if you could help me. Thanks in advance, Manuel Arenaz
anacron read out
Hi! Newbie here I'm getting this read-out from my daily cron but haven't a clue what is wrong or more importantly, how to fix it. Any ideas? /etc/cron.daily/cracklib /usr/sbin/crack_mdict: tr: command not found /usr/sbin/crack_mdict: tr: command not found /usr/sbin/crack_mdict: line 23: 645 Boken pipe zcat -f $* 646 Done(127) | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' 647 Done(127) | tr -cd '\012[a-z][0-9]' 648 Done| $Sort 649 Done| uniq 650 Done| grep -v '^#' 651 Done| grep -v '^$' /etc/cron.daily/standard: /usr/sbin/checksecurity: wc: command not found /usr/sbin/checksecurity: [: -gt: unary operator expected Thanks in advance
Re: anacron read out
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 05:44:06 -0500, eric k. wolven wrote: I'm getting this read-out from my daily cron but haven't a clue what is wrong or more importantly, how to fix it. Any ideas? Your system doesn't have the textutils package installed, which is weird as it's a required/essential package. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Using of parity bit in RS232 in Linux
Hi All! I need to detect the corrupted serial data in my program. I have set the c_lflag to ISIG in termios structure, but no signals are being sent to my program. What signal does the serial driver send when parity or overrun error occurs? How to manage these signals? Where can I find more info? (I've already checked the HOWTO/Serial-Programming, but it didn't help). -- TIA Wojciech M. Zabolotny http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnupg.org Gnu Privacy Guard - protect your mail data with the FREE cryptographic system
Strange Behaviour of apt-get update
Hi all, today I'm trying to update my machines with apt and there is a strange error: Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/main Packages Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/main Release Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/contrib Release Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages Hit ftp://ftp.br.debian.org unstable/non-free Release Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Malformed Priority line E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.br.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. update available list script returned error exit status 100. Press RETURN to continue. What is this? Thanks, Paulo Henrique
Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?
Hi, I was able to find some info about daylight savings setting in other Linux list. Thanks for your concerns about Brazil. BTW, I think we'll have daylight savings for while :-)) BTW again, zic(8) is the program which compiles the time zone and somebody provided an updated file with correct daylight savings beginning and end for this year. thanks again []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 http://www.revistalinux.com.br
Re: trivial egcc question...
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:04:56AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: The command g++ (also known as c++) exists to do exactly this job - Thanks! This is what I was looking for. For whatever reason, I was still laboring under the misconception that egcs and g++ were not one and the same. I agree that makefiles are the way to go, but I often like to prototype unfamilliar language features before I use them in production code. I guess I'm still screwed if I need to specify unweildly include paths or such since all of the responses I have gotten are along the lines of you should do this instead which is leading me to the conclusion that the gnu compiler doesn't support the environment variable schlotz that I want to do. Thanks to you and Ian for the pointers. -Jonathan -- Jonathan Lupa [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpQouI4fGmbW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Slink to Potato
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:52:47PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: I've been slowly upgrading my packages from slink to potato, and frankly, have never had a single problem. I was nervous about upgrading perl, because I've seen all sorts of veiled references to possible hosage (although I've never seen a concise statement of the actual problem), but eventually I just did it, and removed the old perl. Result? No problems, everything seems to work perfectly. Perhaps there are a few packages that crash and burn, but I apparently don't use any of them. How are you doing this? Do you just go get the packages and 'dpkg -i' them or do you use apt? There are a bunch of things I want to upgrade on my system but I assumed that all of the potato packages would have dependencies to library versions I don't have and that updating my libraries would break slink packages that I do have.
Re: Slink to Potato
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 12:54:24AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I've heard, but not what I see in the mailing list archive where people ask about problems with Potato and they are answered only That's what unstable means. In other words, you're on your own, pal. Well, it's a bit better than that - particularly if you keep up with the various lists (mostly -user and -devel) you should be all right. It's more a case of pay attention and be prepared to fix things if they break than anything else. I'd guess that a fair proportion of developers are running at least some unstable, and we like our machines to continue to work. Some people just don't have the luxury of working with Unstable. However, much of the software released, like Gnome, GIMP, LyX and such *is* stable. Sure, but which software and how does it play together :-) . I can actually imagine this being a more serious problem these days with things like GNOME having so many librarie to get right. So what I'd like to see is collection of upgrades to the current Stable from the Unstable chain, just the way its done in the Linux kernel. This will keep everybody happy and will delay the obsolescense of Stable. Right now, I wouldn't recommend Slink to anybody. It's just too out of date. I'm only playing around with it because I have a need for it in the future. I think that's a bit extreme - this machine is running a vanilla Slink system plus kernel 2.2 and the GNOME panel (and it's not as though I couldn't do without the GNOME panel) and it does everything I would want in a Unix system. There isn't much visible difference between it and the potato systems I run. Then again, the potato boxes are pretty much solid - my router/server box here at home runs unstable updated every weekend, and I can't recall any reboots other than for kernel upgrades or when it's been powered down while I've out of town for more than a day or two. The machine which currently acts as smarthost for tardis' outbound mail is running unstable updated approximately daily and hasn't done anything particularly nasty to me. If you really want to run an up-to-date system and can't tolerate any breakage at all then you probably want to have a test box sitting by which you can try out the new versions on before your production system falls over. Otherwise, giving it a day or two before installing new packages and paying attention to bug reports and the lists should help you steer clear of anything really serious. Using apt, you can track just the list of packages you need rather than the entire distribution. What can we do to get this accomplished? I'm willing to put in some work to get this ball going. Does anybody else see this as worthwhile? Check out the extensive existing discussion in the -devel archives. There are several proposals, some of which would require code to be written. IMHO it's probably enough to get the release cycle down to six months, though a semi-stable distribution may be one way to achieve that. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpRGVSilKcIt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: why no package status feature for dpkg?
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Russell Nelson wrote: : So who *knows* what I'm running now, and whether it corresponds to : anything remotely resembling Official Debian 2.0. Somebody remind me : again how .deb is the perfect packaging format, sublime in all the : details of its creation, without flaw in its every detail, and how all : others (should) bow low to it. I still haven't found an explanation : of why RPM sucks so badly that Debian developers cannot fix it. I : mean, xterm sucked so badly that somebody had to create xterm-debian : and break everybody's termcap, so why not RPM-debian and break : everybody else's RPM manipulators? Sounds like you need to run RedHat. rant People who post I'm pissed off and Debian sucks so help me now messages probably don't get it. /rant -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
ppp refusing connections due to pam
Hi, I used apt yesterday to upgrade some packages including some libpam packages and now an incoming ppp connection fails with entries like this in the log: Oct 1 21:17:08 elm PAM_unix[25488]: check pass; user unknown Oct 1 21:17:08 elm PAM_unix[25488]: authentication failure; LOGIN(uid=0) - CONNECT 57600 for login service Oct 1 21:17:10 elm login[25488]: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM FOR CONNECT 57600, Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. Connections worked yesterday morning. I use mgetty with this line: /AutoPPP/ - au_ppp /usr/sbin/pppd debug My box is potato with some slink packages still installed. elm:# dpkg -l login libc6 libpam\* ppp\* ii login 19990827-4 System login tools ii libc6 2.1.2-2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libpam-modules 0.69-7 Pluggable Authentication Modules for PAM ii libpam-runtime 0.69-7 Runtime support for the PAM library ii libpam0g0.69-7 Pluggable Authentication Modules library ii ppp 2.3.9-1 Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. pn ppp-pam none (no description available) I have no idea at all what PAM_unix is or how to go about fixing this problem. I would just like to ppp working again which will buy me time to research all this properly. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks, Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445E Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
GNU Emacs-20.4 debs
Hi! Tell me, ple-e-e-e-ase, where I can find GNU Emacs 20.4 Debian packages? -- Alexander Zhuckov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:5030/518.50
tar help (excluding files)
Hi, All, I tried to back up my home directory today for the first time in a month or so (I back it up to zip drvie which was dead; I got a new one yesterday). I used the same command which I always do: tar -cPvzf /zip/cdj.tgz --exclude-from=.tar_exclude . .tar_exclude is a short file: .netscape/* download/* Office51/* This time it didn't exclude the files. I tried specifying patterns on the command line but this didn't work either. I checked the timestamp on /bin/tar and it says Sep 14, so it must have been updated since my last backup. Is this a known bug, or am I doing something wrong now? -Chris -- || | Christopher D. Judd, Ph.D. | | NYS Dept. of Health [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Wadsworth Center - ESP | | P.O. Box 509 518 486-7829 | | Albany, NY 12201-0509| ||
download problem in potato version
Dear Dr. Benham or to whom may concern: I tried to download binary source through ftp on ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386 However, every time the transfer process will stoped at devel folder and gave me the error message. would you please have a look at it? Sincerely, Yi
Re: GNU Emacs-20.4 debs
On 1 Oct 1999, Alexander Zhuckov wrote: Tell me, ple-e-e-e-ase, where I can find GNU Emacs 20.4 Debian packages? In unstable distribution in the packages xemacs20-*. -- Jean Pierre
Re: ppp refusing connections due to pam
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 10:42:54PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote: Hi, I used apt yesterday to upgrade some packages including some libpam packages and now an incoming ppp connection fails with entries like this in the log: Oct 1 21:17:08 elm PAM_unix[25488]: check pass; user unknown Oct 1 21:17:08 elm PAM_unix[25488]: authentication failure; LOGIN(uid=0) - CONNECT 57600 for login service Oct 1 21:17:10 elm login[25488]: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM FOR CONNECT 57600, Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. Connections worked yesterday morning. I use mgetty with this line: /AutoPPP/ - au_ppp /usr/sbin/pppd debug Where are your ppp users coming from (NIS, /etc/passwd)? It seems that it cannot find the user that is logging in. Ben
Re: How to filter this list?
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 12:39:54PM +0200, Manuel Arenaz Silva wrote: Hello, I am interrested in filtering the incoming mail. On my opinion, my situation is quite different from the explained in this thread. I am the administrator of a PC K6-3 400MHz running Debian Linux. I use a mail server (mercurio.des.fi.udc.es) to send and receive mails. [mercurio:/home/des/becarios/arenaz]$ uname -a SunOS mercurio 5.7 Generic sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCclassic My question is: What do I need in order to filter the incomming mail received in the server? Can I manage using elm? You sound like a candidate for procmail. IIRC, one of the examples in the procmail docs is how to filter debian-user. Rob -- I fill MY industrial waste containers with old copies of the WATCHTOWER and then add HAWAIIAN PUNCH to the top ... They look NICE in the yard ...
Re: Slink to Potato
In linux.debian.user, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some people just don't have the luxury of working with Unstable. However, much of the software released, like Gnome, GIMP, LyX and such *is* stable. Enlightenment 0.15.x is quite stable, albeit incomplete. It is no less stable than the 0.14.6 that ships on the Slink CDs. So what I'd like to see is a collection of upgrades to the current Stable from the Unstable chain, just the way its done in the Linux kernel. This will keep everybody happy and will delay the obsolescense of Stable. Right now, I wouldn't recommend Slink to anybody. It's just too out of date. I'm only playing around with it because I have a need for it in the future. When I asked a similar question a long time ago (but still when slink was stable!) it was explained to me thusly: if you start modifying stable, then you might break it. That means that if one permitted regular modifications/upgrades to stable packages, one would have to go through the entire beta-test cycle ON THE ENTIRE RELEASE each time a package was upgraded. This is impractical. The problem, of course, is that potato is taking a very long time to be released. (Is it even frozen yet? I haven't kept track.) I, too, am waiting for some of the newer software with metaphorically bated breath. So, since you offered to help, the thing you could do is help test potato and get it released. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net
Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?
I wrote: I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with daylight savings time in a tropical country? Taupter writes: Brazil is not one immense rain forest, as some people would think. What's that got to do with it seasonal variation in daylight? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
smbmount
Hi, When smbmount fails to mount a NT-share, the mount entry exists in /etc/mount after failed mount anyway. This prevents mounting anything else to that mount point. Is this a so-called bug or what? I'm using the latest stable version (at least apt-get told me so...) on debian 2.1. df doesn't know anything about the mount but I just umount it, and everything is just fine. Another thing: is it possible to give passwd on command line to smbmount? juha
Re: why no package status feature for dpkg?
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:31:25PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: Why does dpkg not have a way to check the cksum's of the package's contents. I deleted a bunch of man pages, and now I find myself having to write perl scripts to coerce dpkg into releasing the information about missing files. And even then, I won't know if a file is really undamaged. Good idea --- maybe a dpkg --check-corrupted to see if a supposedly installed package has been damaged or had components removed. I'm not a coder at all, but maybe somebody else who reads this post is. A temporary hack would be, when you have a man page go missing, do a dpkg --remove package; apt-get install package. Until you need the page, don't worry about it. So who *knows* what I'm running now, and whether it corresponds to anything remotely resembling Official Debian 2.0. Yeah, I was running probably 1/3 unstable for a while. I went to glibc2.1 to use the new kernel and that kept breaking little things, and I finally said screw it and went to a full potato box. Unstable for Debian is pretty stable, though; I figure as long as I don't follow the bleeding edge and only upgrade what's broken I'll be fine. Somebody remind me again how .deb is the perfect packaging format, sublime in all the details of its creation, without flaw in its every detail, and how all others (should) bow low to it. I still haven't found an explanation of why RPM sucks so badly that Debian developers cannot fix it. I mean, xterm sucked so badly that somebody had to create xterm-debian and break everybody's termcap, so why not RPM-debian and break everybody else's RPM manipulators? I bet you'd feel a lot better if you hadn't just been beating this to death for several hours. Get a good night's sleep and a warm meal. Rob -- America: born free and taxed to death.
Re: why no package status feature for dpkg?
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:38:22AM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:31:25PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: Why does dpkg not have a way to check the cksum's of the package's contents. I deleted a bunch of man pages, and now I find myself having to write perl scripts to coerce dpkg into releasing the information about missing files. And even then, I won't know if a file is really undamaged. Good idea --- maybe a dpkg --check-corrupted to see if a supposedly installed package has been damaged or had components removed. I'm not a coder at all, but maybe somebody else who reads this post is. A temporary hack would be, when you have a man page go missing, do a dpkg --remove package; apt-get install package. Until you need the page, don't worry about it. Umm, how about installing debsums and read the manpage. Ben
Re: Slink to Potato
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:17:41AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:52:47PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: I've been slowly upgrading my packages from slink to potato, and frankly, have never had a single problem. I was nervous about upgrading perl, because I've seen all sorts of veiled references to possible hosage (although I've never seen a concise statement of the actual problem), but eventually I just did it, and removed the old perl. Result? No problems, everything seems to work perfectly. Perhaps there are a few packages that crash and burn, but I apparently don't use any of them. How are you doing this? Do you just go get the packages and 'dpkg -i' them or do you use apt? There are a bunch of things I want to upgrade on my system but I assumed that all of the potato packages would have dependencies to library versions I don't have and that updating my libraries would break slink packages that I do have. This is exactly what apt is for. Even dpkg -i will say something like package depends on lib2.0 but you only have lib0.2, you loser. As far as hearing horror stories on the list, that's because this is largely a help list. The people who upgrade from slink to potato and don't have any problems don't ask for help. I did it last week and it's very nice, thank you. Rob -- If you wish to succeed, consult three old people.
Re: GNU Emacs-20.4 debs
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 1 Oct 1999, Alexander Zhuckov wrote: Tell me, ple-e-e-e-ase, where I can find GNU Emacs 20.4 Debian packages? In unstable distribution in the packages xemacs20-*. No, thanks. I want GNU Emacs, not XEmacs. -- Alexander Zhuckov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:5030/518.50
Perl dependency problems in unstable
Hi, I just did an upgrade of the latest unstable branch, and ran into a rather perplexing problem with the perl-5.005-doc package. Dselect won't let me change the upgrade status of that package. In fact, it won't even let me hold it! When I hold it and the main perl package, it comes back with a dependency conflict, and tries to set it back to Install. The only way I can get out of the dependency conflict screen is to agree to upgrade both perl and perl-doc packages. However! When I try to go through with it, I get this error, which bails out the upgrade process prematurely, leaving me with a handful of non-installed packages Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 52339 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace perl-5.005-doc 5.005.03-3 (using /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-5.005-doc_5.005.03-4_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement perl-5.005-doc ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-5.005-doc_5.005.03-4_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man3/CGI::Carp.3pm.gz', which is also in package libcgi-perl dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-5.005-doc_5.005.03-4_all.deb E: Sub-process returned an error code (1) Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall again Press enter to continue. What's going on? I tried uninstalling libcgi-perl, and that didn't work either. Thanks, John
Re: GNU Emacs-20.4 debs
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alexander Zhuckov wrote: Hi! Tell me, ple-e-e-e-ase, where I can find GNU Emacs 20.4 Debian packages? -- Alexander Zhuckov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:5030/518.50 search the mail list archive(s) - someone announced unofficial 20.4 debs about a week ago OK
debconf back from gtk to text, how
Hi guys, a maybe silly question: when i installed debconf, i was happy, when he asked my, whether to use some nice gtk-interface or not. I thought, this was a good idea, and so during apt-get update/upgrade, some windows pops up an vanishes, but I only see a black box. How do i get rid of this an switch to a text-based output Thanks alot, Ingo Reimann
Remote Managed Debian Servers
Does anyone on the list know of companies offering remote servers running Debian ? People like Verio, Webhosting.com, Concentric, and Exodus seem besotted with Red Hat boxes. Cheers, -- Martin Oldfield.
Re: Slink to Potato
Well, it's a bit better than that - particularly if you keep up with the various lists (mostly -user and -devel) you should be all right. It's more a case of pay attention and be prepared to fix things if they break than anything else. I'd guess that a fair proportion of developers are running at least some unstable, and we like our machines to continue to work. Wouldn't it be nice is this information was collated at one location so that people could build on what's already been done and not have to try everything new every time. That's what open source is about--sharing. What I am proposing is to help collate the information, do the research so that people coming after me don't have to keep up with the various lists. This is a no-brainer. It needs to be done and it needs to be done now. Some people just don't have the luxury of working with Unstable. However,= much of the software released, like Gnome, GIMP, LyX and such *is* stable. Sure, but which software and how does it play together :-) . I can actually imagine this being a more serious problem these days with things like GNOME having so many librarie to get right. Those are a nightmare. That's why it's important for somebody who's already got things working with Slink to document it and share with others so that everybody doesn't have to reinvent the wheel. So what I'd like to see is collection of upgrades to the current Stable from the Unstable chain, jus= t the way its done in the Linux kernel. This will keep everybody happy and will= delay the obsolescense of Stable. Right now, I wouldn't recommend Slink to anyb= ody. It's just too out of date. I'm only playing around with it because I have a need for it in the future. I think that's a bit extreme - this machine is running a vanilla Slink system plus kernel 2.2 and the GNOME panel (and it's not as though I couldn't do without the GNOME panel) and it does everything I would want in a Unix system. There isn't much visible difference between it and the potato systems I run. What's extreme is that hundreds of Debian users have stable upgraded systems and nobody has bothered to document it and post a How-To. And yes, I could go without GIMP and Enlightenment and even X Windows, too. What your telling me is that when using Debian, I have to get used to using out of date stuff. I won't buy that when the solution is so easy--document what you've done and put it up on a damn Web site so others can benefit from your experience. Then again, the potato boxes are pretty much solid - my router/server box here at home runs unstable updated every weekend, and I can't recall=20 any reboots other than for kernel upgrades or when it's been powered down= =20 while I've out of town for more than a day or two. The machine which currently acts as smarthost for tardis' outbound mail is running unstable updated approximately daily and hasn't done anything particularly nasty to me. If you really want to run an up-to-date system and can't tolerate any breakage at all then you probably want to have a test box sitting by which you can try out the new versions on before your production system falls over. I have one system for this very purpose. I will use it as a test base before updating my S.u.S.E. machines to Debian. My server will remain S.u.S.E. until potato is Stable--hopefully before the end of the year. Otherwise, giving it a day or two before installing new packages and=20 paying attention to bug reports and the lists should help you steer clear of anything really serious. Using apt, you can track just the list of packages you need rather than the entire distribution. What can we do to get this accomplished? I'm willing to put in some work to get this ball going. Does anybody else see this as worthwhile? Check out the extensive existing discussion in the -devel archives. There= are several proposals, some of which would require code to be written. IMHO it's probably enough to get the release cycle down to six months, though a semi-stable distribution may be one way to achieve that. I will do that. I will also see what kind of interest there is on this. I, too, was thinking that this would result in what may be called a semi-stable distribution. Basically it means having another chain of programs with updated contributions which include instructions on integration with Slink. Dependencies would have to be worked out to build .deb packages, but that will work itself out in testing, which can be a simple go/no-go. I welcome other ideas on this. Please chime in. Regards, Arne
Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?
Taupter wrote: John Hasler wrote: I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with daylight savings time in a tropical country? Despite some opinions, we have a large industrial park, 180 million people, a high energy comsumption. There is no outdoors with Coming soon... Coca Cola!. Brazil is not one immense rain forest, as some people would think. Hey, settle down there, guy! If I may be so presumptuous, I think John's point was that there's so little difference in the tropics in amount of daylight between summer and winter. True story, not even tangentially on-topic: In high school I was in a car with 3 other guys going to play tennis doubles. I knew two of the other guys, but the 3rd, a friend of one of the others, was unknown to me (he looked kind of dark; I thought he was Oriental). Someone mentioned South America, and I said, Aw, all they do in South America is blow darts. (Yes, it was a lousy, bigoted attempt at humor.) The dark guy piped up and said, I assure you, we do not just blow darts. I was so embarrassed, I didn't even say anything. I just looked at the floor.
Re: Slink to Potato
When I asked a similar question a long time ago (but still when slink was stable!) it was explained to me thusly: if you start modifying stable, then you might break it. That means that if one permitted regular modifications/upgrades to stable packages, one would have to go through the entire beta-test cycle ON THE ENTIRE RELEASE each time a package was upgraded. This is impractical. Stability with stagnation in a rapidly evolving world is not practical. Forcing the hundreds or thousands of people who have updated their Debian releases to do so without the assistance of others who have already done so is most impractical. The problem, of course, is that potato is taking a very long time to be released. (Is it even frozen yet? I haven't kept track.) I, too, am waiting for some of the newer software with metaphorically bated breath. So, since you offered to help, the thing you could do is help test potato and get it released. I have no desire to test potato at this time. I have other projects which consume my time. I will, however, write up a Debian Update HowTo which lists those Unstable modules which people have ported to Slink so that every other person who wants to do this doesn't have to go through the agony of researching everything anew. I know of no other distribution which provides this information. Debian could be the first. Of course, with Slink being so out of date, it just so happens that Debian needs this more than the others. At this point, it needs it very badly. Regards, Arne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slink to Potato
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:17:41AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are you doing this? Do you just go get the packages and 'dpkg -i' them or do you use apt? There are a bunch of things I want to upgrade on my system but I assumed that all of the potato packages would have dependencie s to library versions I don't have and that updating my libraries would break slink packages that I do have. This is exactly what apt is for. Even dpkg -i will say something like package depends on lib2.0 but you only have lib0.2, you loser. As far as hearing horror stories on the list, that's because this is largely a help list. The people who upgrade from slink to potato and don't have any problems don't ask for help. I did it last week and it's very nice, thank you. Rob, I'm no apt expert. Would you write up a section on Apt for a Debian Update HowTo? I will voluteer to edit and put it together as well as providing content. If need be, I will even host it on my server. The HowTo would include lists of packages and the techniques on how to bring the latest version of applications to the current Stable Debian release. Thanks. Arne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
