.Xautority devora RAM?
Hola, nada más arrancar las X este es el consumo de RAM que parece hacer `~/.Xauthority': $ ps aux |grep .Xau USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND cosme29935 0.0 1.0 1916 668 2 S23:39 0:00 xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/ root 29940 3.7 5.2 8644 3336 ? R23:39 0:10 X :0 -auth /home/cosm pero a medida que transcurre el tiempo aumenta el campo SIZE. ¿És esto normal? ¿Y és un consumo real? Con 3 Xterm en W. Maker (wmmixer+asclock): $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 63444 35692 27752 18632 4048 17512 -/+ buffers/cache: 14132 49312 Swap: 102496 8472 94024 :-? Saludos. -- Cosmehttp://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lounge/8698/ == -=-=- A través de Debian GNU/Linux -=-=- -=-=- Software Libre -=-=- http://www.linux.org/ S.O. Multi-[plataforma, tarea, usuario] http://www.gnu.org/ Free Software Foundation http://lucas.hispalinux.es/Documentación en Castellano http://www.openresources.com/es/Revista Open Resources LuCAS/LinuxFocus/pub/mirror/LinuxFocus/Castellano/ LinuxFocus == pgpS75xi5FZCC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xmame
El Mon, Oct 04, 1999, Manuel Fonseca... Hola, una curiosidad, alguien a instalado el xmame? tengo la citius slink 2.1 con el kernel 2.2.12 y cuando arranco el xmame me da un error de rom me dice que no puede cargar la rom galturbo.u alguien sabe de esto? Mira que no sea un problema del PATH, creo que `xmame' busca las ROMs en un sitio y el paquete deb lo configura en otro. Yo las tengo en `/var/lib/games/mame/juego/'. Saludos. P.D.:Para cuando Linux 2000? ;-) :-m... Saludines. -- Cosmehttp://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lounge/8698/ == -=-=- A través de Debian GNU/Linux -=-=- -=-=- Software Libre -=-=- http://www.linux.org/ S.O. Multi-[plataforma, tarea, usuario] http://www.gnu.org/ Free Software Foundation http://lucas.hispalinux.es/Documentación en Castellano http://www.openresources.com/es/Revista Open Resources LuCAS/LinuxFocus/pub/mirror/LinuxFocus/Castellano/ LinuxFocus == pgpSBeJLmkyyI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alguna impresora laser pa Linux?
-- M. Angel Esteban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola! Resulta que querría ponerme una buena impresora láser que rule bajo Linux al 100% de sus posibilidades. ¿Alguna Sugerencia? Si, mira en las especificaciones tecnicas que acepte postcript y ya te puedes olvidar de los problemas. = . (O) See you, Nos vemos, Ens veiem ab. o M http://www.doneval.speedhost.com d88b. /| .. /:M\--- 8PYPY88 (O)[]XX[]I:K+}= TOR NEC DONAVAM == 8|o||o|88 \| ^^ \:W/--- 8'.88 o W Microsoft gives you Windows ... 8`._.' Y8 (O) Linux gives you the whole house d/ `8b. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Problemas para imprimir
El kernel no reconoce que haya concectada ninguna impresora a esos puertos. Comprueba que el kernel tenga soporte para puertos de impresora, seguramente sea eso. --- daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola Mis problemas para imprimir son de lo más extraños... cuando intento hacer un cat archivo /dev/lpx cuando x es el numero que sea, aunque es el 1 donde esta la impresora, siempre me sale el error /dev/lp1 no such device ein?? ¿pero qué leches pasa? ¿Alguna idea? Grax de antemano -- Daniel Ferradal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuario Registrado de Linux # 128322 http://pagina.de/tezra -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null = . (O) See you, Nos vemos, Ens veiem ab. o M http://www.doneval.speedhost.com d88b. /| .. /:M\--- 8PYPY88 (O)[]XX[]I:K+}= TOR NEC DONAVAM == 8|o||o|88 \| ^^ \:W/--- 8'.88 o W Microsoft gives you Windows ... 8`._.' Y8 (O) Linux gives you the whole house d/ `8b. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Alguna impresora laser pa Linux?
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:21:25PM +0200, M. Angel Esteban wrote: Resulta que querría ponerme una buena impresora láser que rule bajo Linux al 100% de sus posibilidades. ¿Alguna Sugerencia? Hombre... Yo tengo una HP 8100N con ethernet incluida y me va de futísima madre con el Linux... Pero bueno... tú mismo... ;-) -- \|/ \|/ Have a nice day ;-) @'/ ,. \'@ TooManySecrets /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/
RE: Una sobre puertos.
-Mensaje original- De: Raul GN [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: martes 5 de octubre de 1999 20:35 Para: Lista de Debian Asunto: Una sobre puertos. Gracias a las news he descubierto como ver qué puertos estan a la escucha (netstat -a), y claro aquí es donde han empezado mis dudas. He logado identificar todos los puertos habiertos... salvo uno, un tal sunrpc que habre el demonio portmap, sin embargo, su pagina man es un tanto criptica: Portmap is a server that converts RPC program numbers into DARPA protocol port numbers. It must be running in order to make RPC calls. Y claro, la cuestiones son: ¿Qué son 'números de programa RPC'? ¿Qué son los 'números de puerto del protocolo DARPA'? Vale, esto ultimo intuyo lo que es, son los números de puerto: 21 - telnet, 25 - smtp,... ¿no?. Lo de DARPA no me suena nada. Yyyy nop! ;) El RPC o Remote Procedure Call es un sistema de Sun para llamar a procedimientos remotos, es decir, para que tú te hagas un programa que se ejecute en tu máquina local y pueda llamar a un procedimiento/función que se ejecute en la máquina remota. El Portmapper es el encargado de resolver los números de procedimientos remotos y devolver los puertos asociados a esos números (bastante del estilo de un DNS), es decir, permite iniciar la conexión entre tu programa local y el programa remoto que almacena los procedimientos (una especie de servidor de funciones). La cosa es algo así: 1. El programa remoto se registra a sí mismo y los procedimientos que tiene en la máquina remota, llamando al portmapper remoto. En ese momento, el portmapper le adjudica puertos en los que quedarse a la escucha para cada procedimiento o para cada programa, no recuerdo bien. 2. El programa remoto se queda a la espera de peticiones (es un servidor de funciones, lo que sirve son funciones). 3. El programa local empieza la ejecución. 4. El programa local llama al portmapper de la máquina remota para que le establezca una comunicación con cierto programa remoto y, de ese programa remoto, cierto procedimiento (de ahí el nombre, mapeador de puertos, te mapea un puerto y un programa/procedimiento remoto). 5. El programa local convierte los parámetros del procedimiento remoto al que quiere llamar a parámetros desreferenciados (marshalling, i.e. convierte punteros en datos absolutos) y llama al procedimiento remoto con el identificador que obtuvo del portmapper. Los parámetros del procedimiento se pasan por la red empleando XDR (eXternal Data Representation, otro protocolo de Sun para enviar datos). Creo que el RPC se emplea en el NFS, pero no estoy muy seguro (te lo digo más que nada por si no arrancas el RPC y de repente notas que te falla el NFS). En realidad, el RPC es el inicio de la programación distribuída, que se ha quedado más o menos obsoleto con la aparición de sistemas de objetos remotos (CORBA, SOM, COM...). En el listado de puertos abiertos hay dos entradas que me intrigan: raw0 0 *:1 *:* raw0 0 *:6 *:* ¿Me podeis explicar cual es su función? ¿Qué tipo de protocolo es raw? De esto ni idea, pero el protocolo raw es el protocolo que va directamente sobre IP (ni UDP ni TCP). __ Raúl González [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU/LiNuX Slink Linux User #99718 Antonio Tejada Lacaci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Depto. Análisis y Programación Banca March S.A.
vmware
Buenas. He instalado el vmware-1.0.3 (o algo así) en mi sistema Debian. Mi idea es la de poder acceder al NoTepares 4.0 que hay en el disco para no tener que salir del Linux ya para nada... ;-) Todo lo tengo bien, cargo con el insmod el módulo vmmon-up-2.2.5-22 (pero tengo un kernel 2.2.12), etc, etc. Pero a pesar de cargarlo, me dice que no encuentra el /dev/vmmon (lógico, no lo tengo). He hecho, con el módulo cargado, un MAKEDEV update, pero no me lo ha creado... ¿Alguien puede orientarme un poco para poder ver cómo va ésto? Muchas gracias por todo. -- \|/ \|/ Have a nice day ;-) @'/ ,. \'@ TooManySecrets /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/
Re: Necesito ayuda con el exim.
¿usas sendmail? En caso afirmativo probablemente sea este quien esté haciendote lo del enmascaramiento de las direcciones de correo, sendmailconfig. Espero haber sido ayuda. Daniel debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org con fecha 05/10/99 23:57:53 Destinatarios: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org CC: (cci: Daniel Ferradal Marquez/INFO/URQUIJO) Asunto: Necesito ayuda con el exim. Saludos. Ya me he montado un mini-servidor http/ftp/pop3, y claro, ahora estoy peleándome con lo de los emails que vienen de otras partes de la red local. La situación es que hay un ordenador que tiene conexión con internet, y tiene cuentas de email. El resto de los ordenadores lo usan como servidor pop3 local, y smtp también. El invento funciona, y puedo mandar para fuera y para dentro de la red sin problemas. Sin embargo, en el exim tengo configurado, que siempre que pilla una dirección [EMAIL PROTECTED], me la reescribe a [EMAIL PROTECTED], dado que sólo tengo una dirección de email. Pues bueno, me reescribe el from, pero ¡de todos los emails! Es decir, los mails locales también son reescritos a [EMAIL PROTECTED], por lo que un reply no funciona, teniendo que cambiar manualmente la dirección a donde se va a responder, por la dirección local de email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He intentado usar el flag q de las rewritting-rules, pero sólo se aplica si el resto de las rewritting rules para una determinada dirección _también_ cumplen los mismos flaqs. Es decir, que algo como: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] tTq [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] F no funciona, porque la segunda línea no tiene los flags tT. ¿Se ve lo que quiero hacer? He releído el manual del exim, y no parece ser que haya forma alguna de hacer una especie de if/else con las rewritting-rules :-( ¿Alguien tiene una idea de qué puedo hacer? Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gogosoftware - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/ Error: Windows could not find error message. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
(Urgente) Hyalafax
Buenas. Tengo el server Hylafax rulando a las mil maravillas (si alguien necesita apoyo logístico que me lo diga), pero tan sólo me queda una pequeña arista por limar: Cuando recibo un fax, sea de dónde sea, me sale 3/4 de página en blanco (más o menos), y luego el mensaje, el cual se corta a final de página y se acabó... ¿Alguna ayudita, por favor? Es muy urgente ya que es para el curro... :( Muchas gracias por todo. -- \|/ \|/ Have a nice day ;-) @'/ ,. \'@ TooManySecrets /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/
ITI - Informacion de Tecnologia Informatica de ZMA
El envio de este ITI se vio afectado por el corte de suministro electrico del fin de semana, razon por la cual estamos haciendo este reenvio sin adjuntar el archivo .pdf. Si usted ya recibio esta comunicacion le pedimos disculpas. Si no la ha recibido y desea acceder a ella, puede hacerlo en ftp://ftp.zma.com.ar/pub3/zampatti/www/iti24_9.PDF INFORMES SOBRE TECNOLOGIA INFORMATICA 14/09/1999 CONTENIDO 1) Firma electrónica fue utilizado para firmar documentacion remitida por el Congreso de Estados Unidos a Bill Clinton. 2) F Prot Professional y las eleccciones en la Prov. de Santa Fe: 3) Nueva version de Baby 36 y Baby 400 4) El problema del milenio también ataca a las PCs 5) BO2K: Herramienta de los hackers o Software de soporte remoto? 6) Espionaje industrial mediante troyano 7) Antivirus de NAI (exMcAfee) causo graves daños a sistemas de correo electronico 8) Microsoft se somete a un hacker test 9) IBM Solution provider para cubrir holes del OS/400 * ZMA-ITI y ZMA-CSA (Computer Security Alert) son Informes sobre temas de tecnología informatica de interes para ejecutivos de sistemas, administracion y auditores.- Se envia sin cargo a funcionarios de empresas clientes de ZMA o vinculadas a su ambito de especialidad. Este mail esta dirigido a usuarios en general y contiene temas de Seguridad Informatica Esta confeccionado utilizando Acrobat(r) aplicación que se ha definido como estandar para el armado de archivos que contienen hipertexto y presentaciones graficas. Estos archivos pueden ser visualizados y navegados con Acrobat Reader. Aunque probablemente Ud. ya tenga esta aplicación instalada en su PC, puede bajarla de nuestro web en www.zma.com.ar, SIN CARGO en la seccion DOWNLOADS. Si no desea instalarla puede consultar este Nro y los anteriores directamente en nuestra Web. A efectos de calificar para recibir los ITIs, debe completar el formulario de suscripcion disponible en nuestro web, en www.zma.com.ar Las ediciones anteriores pueden ser consultadas en nuestro WebSite. La tecnologia informatica se caracteriza por la velocidad de cambio, siendo intencion de nuestra firma brindar a los destinatarios de ITIs un medio sencillo y rapido de mantenerse actualizado. No obstante, si Ud. no tiene interes en recibirlo, le solicitamos disculpas y le pedimos nos envie un e-mail a [EMAIL PROTECTED] indicando en el subject: NO QUIERO RECIBIR ITIs para que lo borremos de nuestra lista de destinatarios.- *** Z A M P A T T I M A I D A A S O C. consultores gerenciales en tecnologia informatica Larrea 1011 Piso 8 (1117) Buenos Aires Tel (011) 4 825 1602Fax(011) 4 825 7692 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.zma.com.ar *** Mail testeado por Command Antivirus with F Prot Profesional Unico Antivirus con 100% deteccion y 100% desinfeccion certificado
Re: Problemas para imprimir
No... Tengo activada la opcion de soporte para paralell printer port en el kernel, y me dice que no reconoce el dispositivo /dev/lpx, sea lp0, o lp1 o lo que sea. Grax Daniel debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org con fecha 06/10/99 09:21:08 Destinatarios: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org (cci: Daniel Ferradal Marquez/INFO/URQUIJO) Asunto: Re: Problemas para imprimir El kernel no reconoce que haya concectada ninguna impresora a esos puertos. Comprueba que el kernel tenga soporte para puertos de impresora, seguramente sea eso. --- daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola Mis problemas para imprimir son de lo m?s extra?os... cuando intento hacer un cat archivo /dev/lpx cuando x es el numero que sea, aunque es el 1 donde esta la impresora, siempre me sale el error /dev/lp1 no such device ein?? ?pero qu? leches pasa? ?Alguna idea? Grax de antemano -- Daniel Ferradal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuario Registrado de Linux # 128322 http://pagina.de/tezra -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null = . (O) See you, Nos vemos, Ens veiem ab. o M http://www.doneval.speedhost.com d88b. /| .. /:M\--- 8PYPY88 (O)[]XX[]I:K+}= TOR NEC DONAVAM == 8|o||o|88 \| ^^ \:W/--- 8'.88 o W Microsoft gives you Windows ... 8`._.' Y8 (O) Linux gives you the whole house d/ `8b. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Problemas con router IBM
Hola a todos! Tengo un instalado una maquina con Debian Slink y no hay manera de que pueda comunicaar a través del router del Frame Relay que tenemos... Puedo hacerle telnets y pings en la misma subred pero no puedo salir, ni es accesible desde el exterior, tampoco puedo hacerle ping al router desde linux, pero si desde otras maquinas de la subred El router es propiedad de IBM Global Network, por lo que no podemos echarle mano por si falla algun parametro de configuración... He probado de cambiarle la dirección IP y el Gateway para que salga a traves del router RDSI que disponemos y si que funciona :-? El kernel que tiene instalado es 2.0.36 Nuestra red tiene una mascara 255.255.255.192, por eso sale el valor ese no es ningun error Y esto son los valores de route e ifconfig: clown:~# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface localnet* 255.255.255.192 U 0 06 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 03 lo default 62.200.137.10.0.0.0 UG1 0 14 eth0 clown:~# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:60:08:0E:9F:1D inet addr:62.200.137.15 Bcast:62.200.137.63 Mask:255.255.255.192 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2469 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:528 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Collisions:0 Interrupt:12 Base address:0xe400 Y lo que mas me mosquea es que con los servidores NT no tenemos problemas para que salgan a traves del router ese... y encima en el helpdesk de Alguien tiene alguna idea de porque se debe? Saludos y gracias por adelantado
Re: Problemas con router IBM
¿En el helpdesk qué? debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org con fecha 06/10/99 13:05:28 Destinatarios: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: (cci: Daniel Ferradal Marquez/INFO/URQUIJO) Asunto: Problemas con router IBM Hola a todos! Tengo un instalado una maquina con Debian Slink y no hay manera de que pueda comunicaar a través del router del Frame Relay que tenemos... Puedo hacerle telnets y pings en la misma subred pero no puedo salir, ni es accesible desde el exterior, tampoco puedo hacerle ping al router desde linux, pero si desde otras maquinas de la subred El router es propiedad de IBM Global Network, por lo que no podemos echarle mano por si falla algun parametro de configuración... He probado de cambiarle la dirección IP y el Gateway para que salga a traves del router RDSI que disponemos y si que funciona :-? El kernel que tiene instalado es 2.0.36 Nuestra red tiene una mascara 255.255.255.192, por eso sale el valor ese no es ningun error Y esto son los valores de route e ifconfig: clown:~# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface localnet* 255.255.255.192 U 0 06 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 03 lo default 62.200.137.10.0.0.0 UG1 0 14 eth0 clown:~# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:60:08:0E:9F:1D inet addr:62.200.137.15 Bcast:62.200.137.63 Mask:255.255.255.192 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2469 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:528 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Collisions:0 Interrupt:12 Base address:0xe400 Y lo que mas me mosquea es que con los servidores NT no tenemos problemas para que salgan a traves del router ese... y encima en el helpdesk de Alguien tiene alguna idea de porque se debe? Saludos y gracias por adelantado -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Off Topic: IPDS y PostScript
Hola a todos ¿Conoce alguien IPDS?, creo que es algo similar a PostScript (no en la forma, pero si en la funcion), que se genera en AS/400, una impresora Laser con IPDS cuesta un h..vo (minimo 8 Mb, mas el modulo IPDS, mas tarjeta de red para la impresora cerca de 500.000). Me vendria muy bien disponer de algun programa de filtro para poder transformar esta corriente de datos (o lo que sea), en PostScript, para poder utilizar impresoras convencionales, por supuesto que funcione bajo Linux. Gracias de antemano y saludos.
Re: (Urgente) Hyalafax
--- TooMany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buenas. Buenas Tengo el server Hylafax rulando a las mil maravillas (si alguien necesita apoyo logístico que me lo diga), pero tan sólo me queda una pequeña arista por limar: Cuando recibo un fax, sea de dónde sea, me sale 3/4 de página en blanco (más o menos), y luego el mensaje, el cual se corta a final de página y se acabó... Puf! yo tengo un hylafax rulando y eso no me pasa. A ver, especifica, el mensaje te sale mas pequnyo de lo normal? eso te pasa al imprimi o con la imagen en si? No falta nada del mensaje que te envian? Quiza sea porque has puesto el hylafax que esp`ere envios de fax de alta resolucion y casi todos la envian con resolucion normal... Sea como sea recuerda que siempre puedes cortar partes de una imagen con el ImageMagick. ¿Alguna ayudita, por favor? Es muy urgente ya que es para el curro... :( Muchas gracias por todo. Suerte, pa eso estamos 8^) = . (O) See you, Nos vemos, Ens veiem ab. o M http://www.doneval.speedhost.com d88b. /| .. /:M\--- 8PYPY88 (O)[]XX[]I:K+}= TOR NEC DONAVAM == 8|o||o|88 \| ^^ \:W/--- 8'.88 o W Microsoft gives you Windows ... 8`._.' Y8 (O) Linux gives you the whole house d/ `8b. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: printtool ya es oficial (Aviso para los que usan elmío)
Agustín Martín Domingo wrote: Hola a todos, He visto hace unos días que Rafael Kitover [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha decidido mantener oficialmente el paquete printtool, con las utilidades de redhat para impresora, y que éste ya está disponible para potato. Es muy impresionante y util, pero a mi no me acaba de funcionar con smbprinters ya que no tiene (o no lo he encontrado) el script smbprint, con lo que no puedo dialogar con impresoras de Windows. He cogido un smbprint que he encontrado en /usr/doc/samba... o similar, pero tampoco me funciona. Tampoco he conseguido que me imprima varias paginas en una cara a pesar de que la impresora soporta postscript (es una hp lj4 plus PS) y esta configurada como postscript Alguien mas puede confirmar estos problemillas? o es un problema de mi configuracion. Muchas gracias a todos - -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Jordi Román Mejias e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User # 98296-70876 Autònoma Oberta Servei de Informàtica Universitat Autónoma de Barcelona /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Re: Problemas con router IBM
Has probado a hacer un route y un ipconfig en los NT para ver como estan configurados, probablemente te ilumine -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Jordi Román Mejias e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User # 98296-70876 Autònoma Oberta Servei de Informàtica Universitat Autónoma de Barcelona /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Re: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
Sin ánimo de fastidiar :-) Miquel: no, no fastidies ;-) tengo muy claro a qué nos referimos con versión estable/inestable y también sé que una inestable no es una beta, aunque en algunos aspectos se parezca o alguien nos podamos confundir. Es necesario que existan la versiones inestables, que se difundan y que se publique sobre ellas. Y no es malo, al contrario pienso yo, que alguien gane dinero escribiendo libros, personalizandos sistemas, dando soporte a los demás o cualquier otra actividad que no comprometan la finalidad o las ideas de la gente que hace Debian (que es de lo que hablamos). Sin embargo, creo que el software libre a diferencia del comercial (me meto ya en terreno de Sobre más que de la debian-user-spanish) no evoluciona por necesidad económica. Nadie se forra creando en los demás la falsa necesidad de actualizar a RedHat 3.11 ó Debian 2000, por sus grandes ventajas y virtudes tecnológicas. Por eso me extraña la prisa en publicar algo comercial sobre una versión aún inestable. No sé cuántas diferencias podrá haber entre la versión congelada para publicar el citado CD-ROM y la potato estable, pero seguro que haberlas, haylas. En cualquier caso, mi pregunta sobre la versión actual de la Debian se motivaba por ignorancia y curiosidad, no con ánimo inquisitorial. ¡Bienvenidos todos los libros sobre Debian, GNU/Linuxes y software libre en general! A este respecto, en español no hay mucho (podéis buscar en Diaz de Santos http://www.diazdesantos.es, entre otros sitios), pero en Inglés casi de todo (éste lo encontré en Amazon http://www.amazon.com). No sólo de man y how-tos se alimenta el espíritu. Un saludo de un abonado a las versiones estables y al software libre en otras plataformas (léase Windows y SCO Openserver). -- -- Jaime Fernandez Martinez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --
Re: printtool ya es oficial (Aviso para los que usanelmío)
Jordi Roman Mejias wrote: Es muy impresionante y util, pero a mi no me acaba de funcionar con smbprinters ya que no tiene (o no lo he encontrado) el script smbprint, con lo que no puedo dialogar con impresoras de Windows. He cogido un smbprint que he encontrado en /usr/doc/samba... o similar, pero tampoco me funciona. $ dpkg -S smbprint printtool: /usr/share/printtool/smbprint con la versión de Kitover. A ver si lo que te falta es smbclient que es un paquete debian Tampoco he conseguido que me imprima varias paginas en una cara a pesar de que la impresora soporta postscript (es una hp lj4 plus PS) y esta configurada como postscript Es un bug de mpage, lo siento. Lo único que puedo sugerirte es usar las psutils Saludos, -- Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 91-336-6536, Fax: +34 91-336-6554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html
Re: me fallan las cuentas
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Juan Ignacio Llona wrote: On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Antonio Castro wrote: No creo que sea problema del lastlog. Al fin y alcabo du proporciona una información correcta y otra erronea dependiendo de las opciones. Lo más lógico es que sea un bug del du. Por ejemplo que no cuente los caracteres '\0' o algo parecido. En resumen un mal tratamiento de ciertos datos. Se podría ir troceando el fichero lastlog y aplicando du para intentar localizar el fallo. El mío funciona correctamente. Script started on Mon Oct 4 20:41:14 1999 rainman/var/log/prueba# ls -l total 301 -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm293168 oct 4 20:38 lastlog -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm 10240 oct 4 20:39 xaa -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm 10240 oct 4 20:39 xab [...] -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm 10240 oct 4 20:39 xba -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm 10240 oct 4 20:39 xbb -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm 6448 oct 4 20:39 xbc rainman/var/log/prueba# du -k * 14lastlog 10xaa 10xab [...] 10xba 10xbb 7 xbc rainman/var/log/prueba# du -h * 286K lastlog 10K xaa 10K xab [...] 10K xba 10K xbb 6,3K xbc rainman/var/log/prueba# exit exit Script done on Mon Oct 4 20:41:50 1999 Tócate las narices! Pues como ves mis sospechas no van por mal camino. Es una parte de los datos que parece se encuentra en el último bloque de información y que tiene algo que no le gusta a 'du -h' un bug como una casa según parece. No he visto en el man la opcion -h. Prueba a mirar el ultimo trozo 'xbc' con od, quizas veas muchos nulos o algo así. Parece que hay algo que no le gusta al 'du -h' o al 'du -k' Alguien lo entiende? :?¿ Perdón por la longitud del mensaje O:) 'tapronto Iñaki Llona e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://web.jet.es/jillona/ 'Grupo de LinUxuarios de Bizkaia' Clave pública PGP: mandame un mensaje con Subject: Clave publica. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informatica (tienda linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ (((Donde Linux)))http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: vmware
On mié, oct 06, 1999 at 12:12:19 +0200, TooMany wrote: Buenas. He instalado el vmware-1.0.3 (o algo así) en mi sistema Debian. Mi idea es la de poder acceder al NoTepares 4.0 que hay en el disco para no tener que salir del Linux ya para nada... ;-) Todo lo tengo bien, cargo con el insmod el módulo vmmon-up-2.2.5-22 (pero tengo un kernel 2.2.12), etc, etc. Pero a pesar de cargarlo, me dice que no encuentra el /dev/vmmon (lógico, no lo tengo). He hecho, con el módulo cargado, un MAKEDEV update, pero no me lo ha creado... ¿Alguien puede orientarme un poco para poder ver cómo va ésto? _Creo_ que se lo que te pasa. Al instalar vmware, el mismo detecta la versión y revisión del kernel para ver si tiene o no que recompilar los módulos cargables de los que hace uso. El problema es que intenta acceder al directorio 'include' del *kernel* buscándolo en '/usr/include' y en Debian eso es *libc6* así que hay que chapucear un poco como root: 1) mv /usr/include /usr/include_libc6 2) ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/ /usr/include 3) Reinstala vmware diciendo que no quieres actualizar sino instalar desde cero. 4) mv /usr/include_libc6 /usr/include Cada vez que recompiles el kernel haz la mismo operación de arriba, ¿que es una chapuza?, **SI** pero es que como no hay 'vmware_1.0.3.deb' ;-) Saludos y suerte. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/linux/ ViguLinux PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey
Controladora SCSI Adaptec 2904
Hola a todos. Como ya os podeis imaginar soy otra vez el de la grabadora TEAC que después de ver precios he encontrado el sitio más barato pero la cosa es que la oferta es con una controladora SCSI Adaptec 2904 y no una 1520 o 2930 que son las que por aquí me habeis dicho alguno que es sobre la que teneis pinchada la grabadora. He estado en el Linux Hardware Database y un tipo cuenta que la 2904 funciona nada más enchufarla y recompilar el kernel adecuadamente pero sobre SuSE, querría saber si alguien tiene alguna noticia de que sobre Debian no tire... o mejor: lo contrario :-) ... no vaya a ser que la 2904 sea una wincontroladora SCSI jeje XDDD (no me extrañaría que las fabricasen, eso ya sería la releche). Este es el último paso para convertirme en un grabador compulsivo, ¿alguien me puede ayudar?. Cuando la tenga no me importará grabarle a quien lo desee potato cuando salga (con que me pague el disco virgen, yo no quiero sacar absolútamente nada lo digo de verdad, pretendo echar un cable y ya está). Saludos y gracias. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/linux/ ViguLinux PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey
Re: Alguna impresora laser pa Linux?
Hola, On mar, 05 oct 1999 21:21:25 M. Angel Esteban wrote: Resulta que querría ponerme una buena impresora láser que rule bajo Linux al 100% de sus posibilidades. ¿Alguna Sugerencia? Yo no he tenido ningun problema con mi HP Laserjet 6L. Un saludo, JonN
Re: Necesito ayuda con el exim.
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ¿usas sendmail? En caso afirmativo probablemente sea este quien esté haciendote lo del enmascaramiento de las direcciones de correo, sendmailconfig. Pues hombre, yo no suelo ser de esos que piden peras al olmo: Last login: Wed Oct 6 23:03:07 on tty2. No mail. [root:1] [~]# dpkg -l | grep sendmail [root:2] [~]# dpkg -l | grep mail ii biff0.10-1 a mail notification tool ii elm-me+ 2.4pl25ME+48-2 MIME PGP-aware interactive mail reader [en ii fetchmail 4.6.4-1.1 POP2/3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder ii mailx 8.1.1-10 A simple mail user agent. ii metamail2.7-31 An implementation of MIME. ii mime-support3.5-1 MIME files 'mime.types' 'mailcap', and sup ii mutt0.95.3-0.2 Text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, ii pine3.96M-2An e-mail reader with MIME and IMAP support. [root:3] [~]# dpkg -l | grep exim ii exim2.05-1 Exim Mailer ii exim-doc2.00-1 Exim MTA info documentation [root:4] [~]# Como puedes ver, el problema lo tengo con el exim, porque _uso_ el exim, y ningún otro. Seguramente es posible hacer algo al respecto, pero en el manual no lo he encontrado (es tan extenso... y denso...). Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gogosoftware - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/ WinError 032: Multitasking attempted: system confused.
Re: vmware
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:12:19PM +0200, TooMany wrote: Buenas. He instalado el vmware-1.0.3 (o algo así) en mi sistema Debian. Mi idea es la de poder acceder al NoTepares 4.0 que hay en el disco para no tener que salir del Linux ya para nada... ;-) Todo lo tengo bien, cargo con el insmod el módulo vmmon-up-2.2.5-22 (pero tengo un kernel 2.2.12), etc, etc. Pero a pesar de cargarlo, me dice que no encuentra el /dev/vmmon (lógico, no lo tengo). He hecho, con el módulo cargado, un MAKEDEV update, pero no me lo ha creado... ¿Alguien puede orientarme un poco para poder ver cómo va ésto? Creo que tienes que compilar tus propios módulos vm* usando las fuentes que trae el vmware. A mí por lo menos no me funcionaba directamente el vmmon-up-2.2.5 en mi kernel 2.2.12. Salu2, Netman. Muchas gracias por todo. -- \|/ \|/ Have a nice day ;-) @'/ ,. \'@ TooManySecrets /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ -- Kent's Heuristic: Look for it first where you'd most like to find it. Powered by Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 - Kernel 2.2.12 pgpsGArKIxmxD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: boot-floppies (Sugestões)
Ruben Leote Mendes wrote: Se ainda não arranjou esta informação eu posso enviar-lha. Então manda! :-) --- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Faça já o seu. É gratuito!!!
Re: boot-floppies (Sugestões)
Olá, On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 11:17:55AM +0400, Gleydson Mazioli da Silva wrote: Leandro Dutra escreveu: Portugal tem um teclado específico português, cujo layout só conheço pelos mapas de teclado no final do manual de MS-DOS 5... Humm, algum usuário de Portugal pode me passar mais detalhes sobre isto? Se ainda não arranjou esta informação eu posso enviar-lha. Um abraço. -- Ruben Leote Mendes - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Read-only file system on /dev/fd0?
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:59:06PM -0400, Yifang Dai wrote: I hit this strange problem today, on my potato machine: /boot# dd if=bzImage-2.2.12 of=/dev/fd0 dd: /dev/fd0: Read-only file system Here is the permission for /dev/fd0 /boot# ls -l /dev/fd0 brw-rw-r-- 1 root floppy 2, 0 Oct 4 17:41 /dev/fd0 Questions: Are you trying to do this as a normal user? If so, are you a member of the group floppy. BTW, the perms for my /dev/fdo are: brw-rw 1 rootfloppy 2, .. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/egm2.gpg | ++
Re: XF86_NONEV
2. How can I prevent anybody from changing virtual consoles and killing my X session when I am away and locked it with xlock? it's actually easier then that, all the need to do is hit ctrl-alt-backspace and they'll be dumped back to the virtual console which you started it on. run startx. once X is up and running, switch back to the virtual console where you started X and hit ctrl-z, then type bg and then logout. now swap back to your X session. under tcsh you could make all this happen on one line with a command like: # startx ; clear; logout but in bash this doesn't work and i haven't figured out why yet. adam.
RE: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS
2.1.3-2 is one that does it ... It doesn't totally kill the system .. It seems to start up the various wm's, and they run at about 95% cpu and 88%+ memory for about 2-5 mins (each), but they do die (or finish?) and everything is fine (my worst case, I saw gnome-panel running at 95% for about 3 mins, then wmaker running at that for 3 mins.. (in console mode))... Its an annoyance, but it doesn't kill the system .. (at least on 3 of mine it didn't) Terry Adam == Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adam I just did an upgrade. The menu pkg ate memory like no Adam tomorrow. [...] Adam Cease and desist at all costs. Adam I have just been informed on irc that a fixed menu is in Adam incoming. So, it should all be fixed tomorrow. [...] Adam, thanks. What are the menu package versions (broken and fixed)? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86_NONEV
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Adam Shand wrote: # startx ; clear; logout but in bash this doesn't work and i haven't figured out why yet. startx clear ; logout Greg
Re: XF86_NONEV
startx clear ; logout ah! that makes sense, thanks, i'll try it. adam.
can't resolve...
Hey guys, I seem to have lost my ablity to resolve. I attempted without success to install the web server xitami. Don't know if that had anything to do with it, but now, when I connect, neither netscape nor lynx can find any site unless I specify the ip address. Don't suppose anyone knows what I can look at to fix this? thanks, -tf
Re: Clock is loosing time
David Kanter wrote: Is there a way to sync the time with a server when I start a PPP, so I won't have to worry about this in the future? I vaguely remember a mention of this when installing Slink. Take a look at chrony. It does everything xntp does and its default configuration works fine with dial-up ppp out of the box. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
RE: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS
It doesn't totally kill the system .. It seems to start up the various wm's, and they run at about 95% cpu and 88%+ memory for about 2-5 mins (each), but they do die (or finish?) and everything is fine (my worst case, I saw gnome-panel running at 95% for about 3 mins, then wmaker running at that for 3 mins.. (in console mode))... Its an annoyance, but it doesn't kill the system .. (at least on 3 of mine it didn't) Could we have a potato mailing lists? It would be really nice to e-mail fellow potato users and check for the latest bugs, features, etc. Also... someone commented to me about how unstable debian is. After some clarifications... I realized that he was talking about the potato debian release which was always discussed on the debian-user mailing lists. regards, = == Andre M. Varon - Technical Head = = == Lasaltech, Inc. - http://andre.lasaltech.com = === = = = = If I cannot bend Heaven, I shall move Hell. = = -- Publius Vergilius Maro (Virgil)
RE: can't resolve...
On 05-Oct-99 tf wrote: Hey guys, I seem to have lost my ablity to resolve. I attempted without success to install the web server xitami. Don't know if that had anything to do with it, but now, when I connect, neither netscape nor lynx can find any site unless I specify the ip address. Don't suppose anyone knows what I can look at to fix this? thanks, What happens when you issue 'nslookup'? I had a similar problem a few days ago after I ran apt. I believe it was some problem related to netbase. -- Andrew
Re: Slink to Potato
Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because of the developments such as glibc2.1, perl, and probably numerous other things, you can't take something out of Potato and put it on a Slink system and expect it to work. It's an all-or-nothing arrangement. They may both be `GNU/Linux', but they are essential incompatible. This is simply not true. As I have mentioned in several other posts recently, I've been incrementally upgrading my slink system with packages from potato, using no particular care, simply depending on dselect/apt to keep me safe. I _have_ upgraded to glibc2.1 and the new perl, but these upgrades were quite painless, and had no obvious negative repercussions -- the great majority of stuff on my system is still slink (from a japanese cdrom set, BTW, which had all sorts of wacky-ass versions of things...) and it all works together quite happily. In case you hadn't notice, dselect/apt/c do their job quite well. I suggest you take a deep breath and give them a try (instead of getting all freaked out by what you read on mailing lists and crying doom). The beauty of debian is that the package maintainers do the worrying and the awful kluges (and they've done a wonderul job), meaning *you* don't have to! Cheers, -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
RE: dual celeron m/b
I have a BP6 running dual Celeron 366's overclocked to 550. no problems so far. The trouble I have seen is that people get tempted to fiddle in the BIOS with CPU voltages and the like and end up causing themselves a lot of problems. The Abit cup voltage and clock settings are in BIOS and not jumpers, leads people to want to tinker with it a lot and crash their boxes. It is possible to get it into a state where it will not even. On 05-Oct-99 Kam Yee Lo wrote: Just curious about Debian running dual celeron with better FPU? I'm thinking of installing Debian on dual celeron for CAD. Is dual celeron 500mhz faster than Pentium III 500mhz? I want good debian linux and cheap dual celeron :) Anyone have dual celeron AbIT motherboard? Thanks Griz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- E-Mail: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 05-Oct-99 Time: 19:28:47 If it wasn't for us, we wouldn't be here! --
RE: hd (?) light (red) always on
I have a machine that does this until I mount the CDROM. Then I unmount it and the lamp behaves itself. On 05-Oct-99 Peter Mickle wrote: hi- does anyone know why the harddrive light (red) might always be illuminated while running under slink? on the same machine, i also have winNT installed, and whenever it is running, the light comes on only periodically, while opening an application for example. any opinion as to whether this might be hazardous to the machine? thanks - peter -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- E-Mail: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 05-Oct-99 Time: 19:32:18 If it wasn't for us, we wouldn't be here! --
mutt, signitures, and ^M
Hi all, I'm having a stupid problem with mutt or emacs... don't know which. I have a sig setup (which looks normal when I edit it regularly using vim or emacs), but when I go to send the a mail in mutt, it fires up my default editor (emacs), and puts the signiture in there. At the end of every signiture line is a ^M. If I delete the ^M, the sig will look ok (hopefully like it is below). If I don't, all the lines of the sig will be glommed together. I'm not setting any funky charset that I know of, and I'm sure I'm just on the clueless boat with this one, so any help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks! -Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key available from http://www.jamdata.net/~jjlupa/gpg.asc pgp6TjYNN0ZZB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Slink to Potato
Hi Miles Bader; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because of the developments such as glibc2.1, perl, and probably numerous other things, you can't take something out of Potato and put it on a Slink system and expect it to work. It's an all-or-nothing arrangement. They may both be `GNU/Linux', but they are essential incompatible. This is simply not true. As I have mentioned in several other posts recently, I've been incrementally upgrading my slink system with packages from potato, using no particular care, simply depending on dselect/apt to keep me safe. I _have_ upgraded to glibc2.1 and the new perl, but these upgrades were quite painless, and had no obvious negative repercussions -- the great majority of stuff on my system is still slink (from a japanese cdrom set, BTW, which had all sorts of wacky-ass versions of things...) and it all works together quite happily. In case you hadn't notice, dselect/apt/c do their job quite well. I suggest you take a deep breath and give them a try (instead of getting all freaked out by what you read on mailing lists and crying doom). The beauty of debian is that the package maintainers do the worrying and the awful kluges (and they've done a wonderul job), meaning *you* don't have to! Cheers, -Miles I have been in this thread way too long :-), but ... I have to agree with Damon's post. And I have been told that glibc2.1 and glibc2.0 are binary compatible. Why, then, do we have _all_ the packages in the potato _dependant_ on libc6 _=2.1_ and not just libc6 period. And why do I get Navigator 4.7 giving me all sorts of errors when I do ignore-depends on libc6 =2.1 if I have libc6 2.0 installed (the one from netgod- navigator,that is)? You have mixed enviroment, apparently. But, if you didn't have glibc2.1, _none_ of the potato packages would have installed in the first place, because of the missing dependancies (if you used dpkg). And if upgrading libc6 2.0 to 2.1 is going to be anything like upgrading from libc5 to libc6 I shudder at the idea of sitting in front of the screen waiting to crash it to the point of no return. Can anyone of the Debian management find some time in the near future to write up a definitive migration guide (ie. what needs to be updated as a very minimum, in which order and such- like the one we had for libc5-libc6 thing)? And I agree with Damon also in the point that I'm _extremly_ grateful to Debian management and developers for their work, and my posts should not be taken as a criticism, but practical concerns from the end-user standpoint. I have no Windows on my machine, and if I crap out this box trying to upgrade, I can't even post for help once the machine is down... Occasional instability or insecurity is not as much of a concern as that. Thanks, damir
Re: Read-only file system on /dev/fd0?
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 04:11:00PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:59:06PM -0400, Yifang Dai wrote: I hit this strange problem today, on my potato machine: /boot# dd if=bzImage-2.2.12 of=/dev/fd0 dd: /dev/fd0: Read-only file system Here is the permission for /dev/fd0 /boot# ls -l /dev/fd0 brw-rw-r-- 1 root floppy 2, 0 Oct 4 17:41 /dev/fd0 Questions: Are you trying to do this as a normal user? If so, are you a member of the group floppy. BTW, the perms for my /dev/fdo are: brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, .. I did it as root. First the permission was the same as yours, but then I changed it to what's there now. I've even removed the device files and use MAKEDEV to recreate them, but no luck... -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/egm2.gpg | ++ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- --- Yifang Dai Fax: (847)628-0255
Re: Slink to Potato
Damir J. Naden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been told that glibc2.1 and glibc2.0 are binary compatible. For most purposes, they are. Of course this is software, and software has bugs, so there are almost certainly odd cases where things don't work; but they appear to be quite the exception. Why, then, do we have _all_ the packages in the potato _dependant_ on libc6 _=2.1_ and not just libc6 period. I do not know. I assume it's probably because they use features that are in 2.1 but not 2.0 (note that `binary compatible' doesn't mean that they present *exactly* the same interface, merely that 2.1 should present *at least* the same interface as 2.0). And why do I get Navigator 4.7 giving me all sorts of errors when I do ignore-depends on libc6 =2.1 if I have libc6 2.0 installed (the one from netgod- navigator,that is)? I do not know; you'd have to post the errors. You have mixed enviroment, apparently. But, if you didn't have glibc2.1, _none_ of the potato packages would have installed in the first place, because of the missing dependancies (if you used dpkg). This is not true; much depends on glibc = 2.1, but quite a bit doesn't care at all (note that I didn't upgrade to glibc2.1 immediately, only when I wanted to check out a recent version of enlightenment). And if upgrading libc6 2.0 to 2.1 is going to be anything like upgrading from libc5 to libc6 I shudder at the idea of sitting in front of the screen waiting to crash it to the point of no return. That was supposed to be the point of my message -- In my experience, upgrading from glibc 2.0 to 2.1 is *trivial*, and needs no special consideration, migration guides, hand-holding sessions, or support groups. Stop whining and just do it. -Miles p.s. The `stop whining' bit was for dramatic effect only. -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
Splitting debian-user (was Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO...)
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A. M. Varon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could we have a potato mailing lists? That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another list for it? Ben answered on _debian-devel_, but not on _debian-user_; I hope he doesn't mind my posting in both places (this discussion has been going on in both places). A.M. said (I'm paraphrasing) that casual readers of debian-user may come away thinking Debian has lots of problems, when in fact the problems discussed are mostly in the unstable (currently potato) distribution. A.M's suggestion may have merit: a new _debian-user-unstable_ list could separate the user bleeding edge discussions from the stable user discussions. As Ben said, _debian-devel_ is already a place to discuss problems with unstable -- but there's lots of cruft there that's uninteresting to unstable users unless they're considering becoming developers. But if we create _debian-user-unstable_, the _debian-user_ readers would miss (would they care?) the discussions -- some of them interesting -- about changes, and might therefore be less well prepared to handle the upgrade to potato when it becomes stable. So I obviously can't make up my mind; I think we should let the _debian-user_ population decide: would you like to split the group? Here (from the http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe page) is how the above-mentioned lists are currently described: debian-user This is the main mailing list for all users and developers of Debian GNU/Linux systems. Many developers also follow the threads and step in to help every now and then. debian-devel This is the main discussion list for development topics. All developers should be subscribed to this list. As it is open to the public anyone can join the discussion.
Re: Read-only file system on /dev/fd0?
Yifang Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hit this strange problem today, on my potato machine: /boot# dd if=bzImage-2.2.12 of=/dev/fd0 dd: /dev/fd0: Read-only file system do you have it mounted? try umount /dev/fd0 and see if that lets it work.
Re: Slink to Potato
That was supposed to be the point of my message -- In my experience, upgrading from glibc 2.0 to 2.1 is *trivial*, and needs no special consideration, migration guides, hand-holding sessions, or support groups. Stop whining and just do it. -Miles p.s. The `stop whining' bit was for dramatic effect only. I've got to agree with Miles here. Once I stopped shaking in fear of a possible instability, I started doing it one step at a time and I haven't had any serious problems. The few problems I did have generally had solutions in the mailing list archives and were easily dealt with. The important thing is: take small steps and test them out before going on. -- Mark
Re: HELP: getting rid of replace kernel-image-2.2.12 conflict...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:06:16PM +0200, Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:46:22PM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: Instead of traditionnal compilation, use 'make-kpkg', which will build a package from your new kernel; install this package, dselect should not complain any more. Well I did the make-kpkg but apt-get dist-upgrade tried to 'upgrade' it, so i put it on hold. Any step I missed? the make-kpkg was made on another comp but I suppose it has nothing to do. The kernel-package readme file explains how to prevent that, near the end of a lengthy discussion under Versions and revisions: So, try using an epoch for your custom packages: $Get_Root make-kpkg --revision=3:custom.1.0 kernel_image (Get_Root is whatever you need to become root -- fakeroot or sudo are examples that come to mind). The trick is that 3:custom.whatever will always be higher than any debian-provided kernel package, so apt and dselect won't try to upgrade it for you.
Re: DHCP client
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:05:00AM -0400, Bryan Scaringe wrote: Just out of curiosity, are there plans to include dhcpcd in the base system for Potato? There has been mention of including *a* dhcp client package, but I don't think anything is being done on it right now. I don't read the political threads much, but I believe the boot-floppy group is in need of help before anything like dhcp support is added. (something I may be able to help with shortly) Right now I'm just attempting to make the dhcpcd as bug free as possible (without writing my own dhcp software) and hope to include added features from requesting users. Dennis -- Dennis Kellyemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator College of Engineering Michigan State University
Re: mutt, signitures, and ^M
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:27:52PM -0400, Jonathan Lupa wrote: Hi all, I'm having a stupid problem with mutt or emacs... don't know which. I have a sig setup (which looks normal when I edit it regularly using vim or emacs), but when I go to send the a mail in mutt, it fires up my default editor (emacs), and puts the signiture in there. At the end of every signiture line is a ^M. If I delete the ^M, the sig will look ok (hopefully like it is below). If I don't, all the lines of the sig will be glommed together. I'm not setting any funky charset that I know of, and I'm sure I'm just on the clueless boat with this one, so any help will be greatly appreciated! Your sig is in DOS format, try the following: prompt$ perl -pi -e 's/\r//;' ~/.signature (You may need to replace ~/.signature to your corresponding sig file if it differs from my example) Dennis -- Dennis Kellyemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator College of Engineering Michigan State University
Re: Slink to Potato
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Damir J. Naden wrote: I have been in this thread way too long :-), but ... I have to agree with Damon's post. And I have been told that glibc2.1 and glibc2.0 are binary compatible. Glibc 2.1 is binary compatible with glibc 2.0. That means that any glibc 2.0 app should work with 2.1 (unless the developer was stupid). It doesn't mean that any 2.1 apps will work with 2.0, though. Socrates is a man and All men are mortal. Therefore, Socrates is mortal, but not All men are Socrates ;) But, if you didn't have glibc2.1, _none_ of the potato packages would have installed in the first place, because of the missing dependancies (if you used dpkg). Some few could be satisfied, if the package were to be altered to depend on perl instead of perl5. Or the slink perl package were altered to provide perl5 as well as perl. There are a few others that don't depend on libc6 at all, but they aren't all that common. And if upgrading libc6 2.0 to 2.1 is going to be anything like upgrading from libc5 to libc6 I shudder at the idea of sitting in front of the screen waiting to crash it to the point of no return. Can anyone of the Debian management find some time in the near future to write up a definitive migration guide (ie. what needs to be updated as a very minimum, in which order and such- like the one we had for libc5-libc6 thing)? Although i'm not completely sure, i believe the upgrade is nowhere near as problematic as the libc5-libc6 upgrade. Unless you upgrade at the same time a major bug shows itself ;) - -- finger for PGP public key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBN/rNIb7M/9WKZLW5AQHcAAP6Arw3nwRa2LjLRYrnn3eJPmliE61m9pE7 T+NuCX7tF/GNpYJRf+UPYGu7g65vp1iDyJXbY7ASeXa8TtKJqLUee6pFqzYWFLaU Wbx1t9tFDkUBk+U++hmOV8AVX4QKCCGBTkjtOalCKianCj5ShZA1DhQ565V7v0g2 H56s1uHugMQ= =9y4o -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: dual celeron m/b
At work, we have a BP6 with dual 433's and it's run for months without any problems. I can't help but wonder if it's not simply an overheating issue? After hearing of problems with BP6's, we went kept recompiling a kernel to keep the load over 5 for an extended period of time and haven't seen any problems. Of course, this machine is in a rack-mount case filled with fans and in a heavily air conditioned computer room. Since this machine has been slated for a server, I haven't overclocked it or messed with the voltage, etc. I just wanted to mention my experience. I also have a buddy that uses his BP6 to create MP3's and he hasn't had any troubles. -Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] * George Bonser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [991005 20:27] penned: I have a BP6 running dual Celeron 366's overclocked to 550. no problems so far. The trouble I have seen is that people get tempted to fiddle in the BIOS with CPU voltages and the like and end up causing themselves a lot of problems. The Abit cup voltage and clock settings are in BIOS and not jumpers, leads people to want to tinker with it a lot and crash their boxes. It is possible to get it into a state where it will not even. On 05-Oct-99 Kam Yee Lo wrote: Just curious about Debian running dual celeron with better FPU? I'm thinking of installing Debian on dual celeron for CAD. Is dual celeron 500mhz faster than Pentium III 500mhz? I want good debian linux and cheap dual celeron :) Anyone have dual celeron AbIT motherboard? Thanks Griz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- E-Mail: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 05-Oct-99 Time: 19:28:47 If it wasn't for us, we wouldn't be here! -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -Grant oio` They do not apprehend how being at variance it agrees with itself. --Heraclitus ioi`
Re: mutt, signitures, and ^M
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:01:22AM -0400, Dpk wrote: Your sig is in DOS format, try the following: prompt$ perl -pi -e 's/\r//;' ~/.signature Yep. Exactly. I think I may have been using a bad charset in emacs at the time I created it. vim and emacs were smart enough not to display the ^M's usually, so it only showed up when I was actually mailing. Also for the record... On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:11:19PM -0500, Dave Baker wrote: sounds like you have the signature saved in 'dos' format. the way I normally fix this is to do the following: $ vim -b filename the -b puts it in binary mode enter command :%s/^V^M// enter command :wq This worked too! That -b is very handy and I'll make sure to use that in the future. Thank you both! -Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key available from http://www.jamdata.net/~jjlupa/gpg.asc pgpfa0RObCRb0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt, signitures, and ^M
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:18:29AM -0400, Jonathan Lupa wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:11:19PM -0500, Dave Baker wrote: sounds like you have the signature saved in 'dos' format. the way I normally fix this is to do the following: $ vim -b filename the -b puts it in binary mode enter command :%s/^V^M// enter command :wq Easier than that, with VIM: :set fileformat=unix will convert your dos files to unix... -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/egm2.gpg | ++
Re: Sun classic
Ben Collins wrote: IMO, the Debian install is a lot simpler. As I said Debian supports what the kernel supports, which is any sun4c, sun4m, and sun4d (we also support sun4u, ultrasparc, with the proper kernel). SPARC Classic is a sun4c, the same cpu Excellent, so basically I can install Debian on my Sun. BTW, uname -a says that the machine is sun4m; what kind of Sun is that? LX? There's no letter printed at the front panel of the machine. I said classic, but actually it was a wild guess. type of the SPARC Station 1 that I have been running Debian on succesfully (including the latest unstable version of Debian, potato). Is there any ftp site that I can download the Debian for Sun kernel file? I don't have the CDs yet, but I'd like to boot the machine using Debian and see how the procedure goes. Oki
Re: Dial UP networking
Martin Fields wrote: I am new to linux, and I had previously had MSN. Is there anyway for me to use msn through linux? If MSN uses PAP for authenticating the users, I think all you need is appending : ipcp-accept-local ipcp-accept-remote in your /etc/ppp/options and putting your MSN username/password pair in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. Oki
Re: fax page size
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi i am using mgetty/sendfax to send faxes but unfortunately it sends the faxes in a stretched format... Where abouts can i change it so that it faxes as A5? I think there's a howto somewhere that explains the tif format used for faxes has a different scales in x and y. Each pixel is twice as high as it is wide; which could bring about the stretching you mention. This odd pixel shape is a form of data compression that is based on the premise that faxed mesages usually contain printed text. Andrew -- http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=45690
Re: latex french.sty
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: when i compil a file.tex this message happen: french.sty file not found where can i find this one? Are you using \usepackage{french} instead of \usepackage[french]{babel} ? Have you run texconfig? -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ - and God said: nohup make World World.log
Mount as many partitions as possible read only (what do I do with /etc?)
Hello! In order to improve reliability, reduce fsck times, increase foolproofness, preserve the wildlife and so on (on a Debian Slink server with a Very Interruptible Power Supply (tm)), I wish to mount read only as many partitions as I can. My goal would be to have everything read only except /var, /home and /tmp. It's trivial to have /usr read-only, but I have problems with the root partition: - It has to contain /etc since it's required at early boot time to run rc scripts - /etc has to be read-write since you have to be able to change passwords, add and remove users, configure samba shares via swat, update adjtime, mtab and so on. What's The Right Way (tm) to have / mounted read-only? TIA, Enrico -- GPG public key available on finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:13:41PM -0400, Terry Katz wrote: 2.1.3-2 is one that does it ... Seems to behave itself here. But then I only have fvwm2 installed, none of these fancy new wms. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.
Re: Mount as many partitions as possible read only (what do I do with /etc?)
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 09:51:56AM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: Hello! In order to improve reliability, reduce fsck times, increase foolproofness, preserve the wildlife and so on (on a Debian Slink server with a Very Interruptible Power Supply (tm)), I wish to mount read only as many partitions as I can. What's The Right Way (tm) to have / mounted read-only? I did mount / with the sync option on a server of mine. So the danger of data loss is reduced a bit. Since / is not that big a fsck is quite fast. Peter Palfrader -- main(i){putchar(354603184(i-1)*531|!!(i6)6)main(++i);} -- It's a simple task to make things complex - but a complex task to make them simple.
Sound Config Probs
Hi, I know this is a long one but, after spending months without sound for Debian, I have decided to tackle this problem. However, I am at a loss as to why it won't go. I think its something I am doing incorrectly. Card is... ISA PnP Yamaha OPL3-SAx Did: cat some .au file /dev/audio Nothing happens. Can't figure out if its isapnp or some other config i have not completed yet. Did the neccessary configs in 'isapnptools' Here is a portion of /etc/isapnp.conf snippy # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE YMH0800/-1 (LD 0 # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0220 # Maximum IO base address 0x0220 # IO base alignment 16 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 16 (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0530 # Maximum IO base address 0x0530 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 (IO 1 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0530)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0388 # Maximum IO base address 0x0388 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 (IO 2 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0388)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0330 # Maximum IO base address 0x0330 # IO base alignment 2 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 (IO 3 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0330)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0370 # Maximum IO base address 0x0370 # IO base alignment 2 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 (IO 4 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0370)) # IRQ 5. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) # First DMA channel 0. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed type F (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0)) # Next DMA channel 1. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed type F (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 1)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0240 # Maximum IO base address 0x0240 # IO base alignment 16 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 16 # End dependent functions (ACT Y) )) # # Logical device id YMH0022 # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE YMH0800/-1 (LD 1 # Compatible device id PNPb02f # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0201 # Maximum IO base address 0x0201 # IO base alignment 1 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 1 (IO 0 (SIZE 1) (BASE 0x0201)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0202 # Maximum IO base address 0x0202 # IO base alignment 1 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 1 # (IO 0 (SIZE 1) (BASE 0x0202)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0203 # Maximum IO base address 0x0203 # IO base alignment 1 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 1 # (IO 0 (SIZE 1) (BASE 0x0203)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0204 # Maximum IO base address 0x020f # IO base alignment 1 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 1 # (IO 0 (SIZE 1) (BASE 0x0204)) (NAME YMH0800/-1[1]{OPL3-SA3 Sound Board}) # End dependent functions (ACT Y) )) # End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK) snippy # Returns all cards to the Wait for Key state (WAITFORKEY) snippy I don't know, perhaps I have missed something here. Butit would seem to me that there should be another step I am as of yet unaware of that will tell '/dev/audio' where the soundcard is.
Re: Sun classic
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:26:11PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: Ben Collins wrote: IMO, the Debian install is a lot simpler. As I said Debian supports what the kernel supports, which is any sun4c, sun4m, and sun4d (we also support sun4u, ultrasparc, with the proper kernel). SPARC Classic is a sun4c, the same cpu Excellent, so basically I can install Debian on my Sun. BTW, uname -a says that the machine is sun4m; what kind of Sun is that? LX? There's no letter printed at the front panel of the machine. I said classic, but actually it was a wild guess. Sounds like it, and my LX is actually running very well (I suggest you upgrade to a 2.2.7 kernel after installing with the 2.2.1 slink boot disks). Right now it's serving as my web/ftp server, and the central database for the Debian SPARC autobuilder. type of the SPARC Station 1 that I have been running Debian on succesfully (including the latest unstable version of Debian, potato). Is there any ftp site that I can download the Debian for Sun kernel file? I don't have the CDs yet, but I'd like to boot the machine using Debian and see how the procedure goes. ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/disks-sparc/current/ You will need the resc1440-2.2.1.bin, drv1440-2.2.1.bin, root-2.2.1.bin, and base21.tgz files (if you can't serve base21.tgz over nfs, then get the seperate pieces and put them on floppies). There's also an install.txt(.html?) file if you need some extra help. Once you get the base system installed and booted, I strongly suggest upgrading it to potato. Debian's SPARC dist has seen great improvements since slink released. Ben
Re: latex french.sty
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: where can i find [french.sty]? Many TeX-related files can be found on CTAN, the Comprehensive TeX Archive Network. A dutch mirror of this archive can e.g. be found in http://www.cs.ruu.nl/mirror/CTAN/ A search engine can search the contents of this archive. Look at : tug.ctan.org/CTANfind.html. A search with this engine reveals that french.sty resides in directory fonts/chess/inputs (don't ask me why it resides on that particular place. Regards, Paul Huygen
Easy lilo question (win95 on /dev/hda, deb. on /dev/hdb)
Hello, Having had to installk win95, I did (on the first hard drive /dev/hda) and then installed debian (on second ide drive /dev/hdb). When it came to the lilo bit, it asked me if wanted to install lilo on on /dev/hdb - well, I wanted it on /dev/hda so I said no but it didn;t give me the option. Evreything's installed Ok except I need to use f loppy to boot it. How can I install lilo on /dev/hda so i can chose between winb95 anf debian? The docs. I'm afraid have confused me as they are about multiple OS's and I'm not really quite sure about installing lilo on /dev/hda - I daren't experiment lest I balls things up. Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
XFree Cirrus 5430
Hi, I'm trying to get 8bpp on my Cirrus Logic GD5430 (AcerEntra 486DX4 onboard video I belive it's using VLB???), but I can't seem to identify the correct MemBase. I've tried: # Device section for Cirrus Logic GD5430/34-based cards. #MemBase 0x000a # What Windoze95 Reports (I think) #MemBase 0x00e0 # ISA card that maps to 14Mb #MemBase 0x0400 # VLB card that maps to 64Mb #MemBase 0x8000 # VLB card that maps to 2048Mb #MemBase 0x0200 # VLB card that maps to 32Mb #Option linear Any ideas on how to get this info (I dual boot Win95 on this box which uses 24bpp color depth if that's useful it'll be a first :^), or what I'm doing wrong here? TIA, Jon ps I do realize these otions are currently commented out... -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://users.ids.net/~tuan/
Mail won't leave system
In the last couple of days I'v suddenly been unable to send out mail (I'm sending this from a different machine). I'm using Slink, with smail. I have two ISPs (Freeserve and Demon); it happens with both. I get an error message BIND server failure. I've been over all the config files I can find and have reinstalled and reconfigured smail; no joy. Incoming mail and news are OK. Any suggestions about what I should check? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux - Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone) Book Reviews: www.achc.demon.co.uk/bookreviews/ The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: Splitting debian-user (was Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO...)
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 05:16:59AM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: [...] I'm not strongly for or against. I could certainly live with another mailing list, but whatever we do, lets leave debian-devel to the developers. I agree, Ed. ...developers and future developers. :-) Hmmm. A new list called debian-unstable or even debian-test (which might be a little more appealing for Web surfers who see the list info) might not be a bad idea, though. Art
Re: fatal error in SO 5.1
Been following potato, and have downloaded the latest 5.1a version, bombs out here also using kernel 2.2.13pre14. Guess ill keep trying things :) Brad wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: Brad wrote: 2) Are you _sure_ is wasn't the problem with threaded system(3) calls in one of the 2.1.2 prereleases? Given the information you give below, it distinctly sounds like you ran into this bug and not a bug in SO 5.1. Especially since i have SO 5.1 from StarDivision before Sun bought them, and it works fine (although it is a memory hog...) I don't know the details about the system(3) call problem. Your last sentence here is very different from my experience. See below. Check the debian-user mailing list archives, as well as bug report number 43549 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/43/43549.html. Basically, using the system(3) call [man 3 system, if you have manpages-dev installed] was doing something non-thread-safe in version glibc 2.1.2-0pre10. This caused any threaded program that used that call to fail. The first version I downloaded from the Star Division web site failed after an upgrade of glibc2.1 of the potato distribution. I made an attempt to have both glibc2.07 and glibc2.1 on the system to get SO to work, but the instructions failed for me. For me the solution was solved (not exactly sure) when I downloaded the new SO tarball (so51a_lnx_01.tar, note the a) from Sun's website (stardivision.com will now redirect to sun.com). This one worked without problems with glibc2.1.x. There were however later upgrades to glibc in that time, but I think it wasn't glibc, they did something with the new version ^^^ Why? Circumstances point more towards the glibc problem mentioned above. Ok, let me try to explain my experience. I've been upgrading against potato since its beginning. When glibc was 2.0.x I downloaded SO5.1 from stardivision.com (before Sun). This is impossible, since 5.1 was released only after potato was into 2.1. Are you SURE you're not confusing 5.01 and 5.1 (BTW, that is the stupidest numbering system i've ever seen. Who at StarDivision came up with it? ... Then again, Netscape has 4.05 and 4.5 as well...) The reason i know this is because of the intense discussion and workaround-hunting that went on during that period, for version 5.01. Just after a fully functional solution was found, StarDivision released 5.1 which worked with glibc 2.1. You can check the debian-user archives (try around May 1999, which is when 5.1 was released IIRC) for more information. I installed it and it worked. As the weeks went by I upgraded my potato sys several times a week. When the glibc version went to 2.1.x, SO broke. A message on deb.usr gave a list of instructions to try, but the instructions failed for me. I left SO broke, waiting for a solution, either an update to glibc (2.1), or a message on deb.usr explaining how to fix it. No message showed up, and after several subsequent upgrades of glibc2.1.x, SO remained broke. The directions posted to the list worked flawlessly for me (as well as a few others i was in contact with at the time), and 5.1 when it was released it worked without any modification. At this point Sun had taken Stardivision over, and put SO (so51a_lnx_01.tar) up on sun.com for download. I thought this may be an updated version (same name as early version but with the addition of the a). I downloaded it, installed it, and it worked. i'm not debating that this works, just that the earlier version worked too. Is a less of a memory hog than previous versions? - -- finger for PGP public key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBN/mOsL7M/9WKZLW5AQFSmQQAlxU0JnnGqcX8gXiTCh6m341dy8z9N0Zk VJpG/velm3dNabp15wOyMO1BdwoyZEYllEP+iz9iLBqisCHEeR3W/m89q3Za7al7 KUjfDLBA/2+I6pSrdnQGRMu4GA37Vamn/uSo8izcxZzKduHBFrZX/ZoGIq6AWUGe U07q2ntNNJo= =VPCG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Mount as many partitions as possible read only (what do I do with /etc?)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: It's trivial to have /usr read-only, but I have problems with the root partition: - It has to contain /etc since it's required at early boot time to run rc scripts - /etc has to be read-write since you have to be able to change passwords, add and remove users, configure samba shares via swat, update adjtime, mtab and so on. What's The Right Way (tm) to have / mounted read-only? My diskless package (I just uploaded 0.3.2 to master today) does what you want (but for diskless systems). It diverts /sbin/init to /sbin/init.orig, and installs a shell script in place of /sbin/init. This shell script mounts /etc from an NFS server. The only file that might be required beforehand is /etc/resolv.conf, but this is not even required if you give the IP address of the NFS server. Other solutions, such as booting from a ramdisk may also be possible, but I haven't personally tried this. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nfs boot off of a kernel on a floppy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: If you'd like to save some spaces, you can select several directories to be exported. Of course, the server and the clients have to be running the same version of the OS. If I remember correctly, /lib, /bin, /sbin, /usr can be exported safely. You have to be careful with /lib, /bin, and /sbin, as files in these directories are required on boot... My diskless package (latest version 0.3.2) mounts /etc from a NFS server, but this cannot be shared with other clients. Selecting directories that can be exported is a bit tricky, so I think the easisest way is to instal a new system on the server machine. Since bootp would boot from /tftpboot/x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the IP number you assign for the client machine; defined in /etc/bootptab), just create x.x.x.x directory in /tftpboot, then export it (in /etc/exports). On the other machine, mount that directory somewhere, and then install a new system using the mount point as the root directory. I use a symlink from /tftpboot/x.x.x.x to /the/real/dir. In fact, I do not even need /tftpboot/x.x.x.x in my exports file! All that is required is an entry for /the/real/dir. Weird. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hardware Clock to GMT instead of local time
I had been using Debian since July of 1998. It had been a dual boot NT/Debian Box. At the time of installation I remember selecting something like 'Set HW Clock to Local Time'. Now that I've dumped NT completely and I want to change it to 'HW Clock set to GMT' as I believe that is the way UNIXish machines should be configured. The question is: what configuration, startup scripts am I supposed to modify so that everthing will work correctly.
Secure rdist?
[Please Cc: me with replies!] I know it must be an FAQ, but does there exist a secure replacement for rdist, one which would not require having a /root/.rhosts file? Those things make me understandably paranoid. I'm not quite sure what a secure replacement would look like though; would it perhaps use the SSH protocol with some more secure automatic authentication? Thanks Julian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://www.debian.org/~jdg
Re: Easy lilo question (win95 on /dev/hda, deb. on /dev/hdb)
Hi Martin On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:52:09AM -0700, Martin Waller wrote: Hello, Having had to installk win95, I did (on the first hard drive /dev/hda) and then installed debian (on second ide drive /dev/hdb). Take a /etc/lilo.conf like that: # LILO Konfigurations-Datei # Start LILO global Section append=auto boot=/dev/hda #compact # faster, but won't work on all systems. linear read-only prompt timeout=100 vga = normal# force sane state # End LILO global section # Linux bootable partition config begins image = /boot/vmlinuz # # ^ Martin, where is Your kernel? root = /dev/hdb1 # ^ Martin, where sits your debian ? # label = linux # Linux bootable partition config ends # # DOS bootable partition config begins other = /dev/hda1 #^^ Martin, what is your Primary Dos Partition? # # label = Win95 table = /dev/hda # DOS bootable partition config ends # Try that. You have to put the correct values for your partitions of that so called OS from Redmont and for your debian. Where is your kernel located? put that in the line image= i suppose either image =/vmlinuz or image=/boot/vmlinuz then run lilo as root. that should work Ingo
Re: Sound Config Probs
bwarsing == bwarsing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bwarsing Did: bwarsing cat some .au file /dev/audio bwarsing Nothing happens. Can't figure out if its isapnp or some bwarsing other config i have not completed yet. Um... did you recompile the kernel with sound support? -- I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free. http://www.clark.net/pub/hermit/
Re: Splitting debian-user (was Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO...)
But if we create _debian-user-unstable_, the _debian-user_ readers would miss (would they care?) the discussions -- some of them interesting -- about changes, and might therefore be less well prepared to handle the upgrade to potato when it becomes stable. So I obviously can't make up my mind; I think we should let the _debian-user_ population decide: would you like to split the group? I don't think it's a good idea to split them up. Many issues discussed in debian-user apply to both stable and unstable, not to mention Linux in general. I like the idea of reading one list and being able to beneift from the experiences of people running both distributions. Occasionally when I want to know more about the bleeding edge, I'll subscribe to debian-devel for a while and see what's going on. Tom
Re: So whos going to ALS
I could haul my printer in again. Also, I've got a real machine this year... AMD K6-III 450MHz Viper 770, NetGear 10/100 NIC... 19 Optiquest monitor. Who's coordinating? TIA -- Greg. - Original Message - From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:12 PM Subject: RE: So whos going to ALS On 05-Oct-99 Johnie Ingram wrote: ... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas? Joey Hess and myself are going. We have one extra space in the hotel room. Preferably for a Debian developer, preferably one who needs to save the money. We have two double beds and currently three people, a fourth is welcome. If you want a spot on the floor, well that can be arranged as well (-: We arrive Wednesday night at 7:30pm, so room is available from Wednesday night on thru Saturday night. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
problem with /dev/lp0
I use Debian with kernel 2.0.36. All information I can get from the BIOS of my Intel PC about the parallel port ist, that io is 0x278 and that the mode is normal (other possible modes: ECP, EPP 1.9 and EPP 1.7). So I say modprobe lp io=0x278. The printer is a HP LaserJet 4P connected trough a bidirectional parallel cable. Since printing trough magicfilter does not work, I tried to generate a file using gslj and send that directly to /dev/lp0: cat file.lj /dev/lp0 This takes about 4 seconds and produces no error. But nothing is printed and there is no error message on the printer. tunelp /dev/lp0 -s gives the following: /dev/lp0 status is 240, out of paper, on-line, error but the printer is not out of paper and displays no error. Also printing works if the printer is connected to a Windows NT machine. tunelp /dev/lp0 tells me that lp0 is using polling. lp1 and lp2 are not configured. cat /proc/interrupts gives: 0:8290233 timer 1: 35309 keyboard 2: 0 cascade 3:188 + serial 4: 73807 + serial 8: 2 + rtc 9: 116284 NE2000 13: 1 math error 14:4628478 + ide0 Why does printing not work? Any comments welcome! Stef
bootpd: ioctl SIOCSARP: invalid argument
I am trying to set up a boot server in order to boot and install debian-ppc in a 43P I have here, but I am failing miserably to set up bootpd. I've never set one of these before. And it is saying: ioctl SIOCSARP: Invalid argument Anyone has an Idea of what is happening? This kernel is compiled with RARP suport, I have an entry in my /etc/hosts with the name and adress of the host Im trying to configure, davinci:tc=.default:ha=08005afc63b4:bf=bootprep.bin and the .default entry has :hn:dn=colband.com.br:td=/boot-ppc:ds=dns:to=auto: dns is the name of our dns server , /boot-ppc is where I put the boot image and bootprep.bin is the name of the boot image that resides inside /boot-ppc . If anyone has some clue on what is wrong/what to do, please include me in the reply, since I am not currently subscribed to debian-user, Thank you very much for your help! --macan
Re: New HD, DMA, errors...
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:16:20PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Hi! I've bought a new HD and I'm having troubles with it. It's a Seagate ST310232A (10 Gb). Boot: PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1020-0x1027, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1028-0x102f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio ^^^ Most of mother boards don't like to manage both UDMA PIO MODES upon the same IDE interface, so the setting is usuallly downgraded to the lowest mode , which is the PIO one. First, check the BIOS setup to see if you can manage differents modes on a same interface, by setting it on the *real* modes (not auto). (but even with that you have the risk to become stuck unpredictably) If you MB can't do that, You can avoid the errors you've got by a well done setup of the line hdparm in /etc/rc.boot/hwtools (with the hwtools parckage installed, of course :) See man hdparm, and set the both of your HDz on IDE 1 to the PIO mode. Of course, it could be much more insteresting, in terms of rapidity, to put the CD-ROM drive and the PIO mode HD on the SAME interface. And to keep them in PIO mode. its up to you... JY -- Jean-Yves F. Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The Labs. (By Dennis Ritchie)
silly consoles question
Hi all, I'm actually making many modifications of my system, so I'm used to open two consoles in root, and 3 as user. Is there a possibility, as soon as I open the first console as root, to automagically open the others JY -- Jean-Yves F. Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The Labs. (By Dennis Ritchie)
Re: Sound Config Probs
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Kenneth Scharf wrote: I have compiled the sound support into my kernel for a SB16 card also using isapnp. A few points which I noticed. 1. you MUST not compile INTO the kernel, make sound drivers a module. After installing your new kernel [snip] Not always true. I have a Creative Labs AWE64 ISA PNP. I use kernel 2.3.18ac10 and the built in isapnp routines. I also compiled sound support INTO the kernel and it works fine. The kernel iaspnp inits the card at bootup and then a few processes later the kernel sound finds the card and it works fine. Then again, not everyone likes using bleeding edge kernels. --Ian Ehrenwald
printing through samba with Windows
Hi there! I'm having a rather difficult problem with printing through samba from Windows machines. What happens is there are a bunch of big Word documents (with pictures in there from digital cameras) that need to be printed out in batches. Normally a user can pick a bunch from explorer and right-click on them and print them. Problem is, when I do that to the color printer through the linux server, I start getting bunches of errors from the windows machine about it taking too long and needing to cancel the jobs because the printer's not responding, etc, etc, etc. (usually I can still get all the prints after responding to all the timeout messages and such) Now, I can print these things to file and copy it to the linux box and send them out through lpr and it spools them all up and sends 'em on out. So, I'm thinking there must be something to do with the samba config. Has anyone ever heard of this problem before? Is there a simple config parameter I need to change and that will take care of it? It seems to me that the samba server ought to spool these jobs up to print and let the workstation go on it's merry way doing something else, but that doesn't seem to be happening. I have never noticed this problem before when printing through our old Netware server. I've tried multiple linux boxes - one running slink and one running potato, so different iterations of software versions. Running samba and lprng for the printing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! -Ken +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | | | | | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |Ken Long | Voice:(757)543-6801 x 392 | | | FAX: (757)494-0733 | | | | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ |The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of | | Metro Machine Corp.| +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+
RE: problem with /dev/lp0
I believe it is /dev/lp1=lpt1:. Are you sure you are using the correct device ? -Original Message- From: Debian Mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:11 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: problem with /dev/lp0 I use Debian with kernel 2.0.36. All information I can get from the BIOS of my Intel PC about the parallel port ist, that io is 0x278 and that the mode is normal (other possible modes: ECP, EPP 1.9 and EPP 1.7). So I say modprobe lp io=0x278. The printer is a HP LaserJet 4P connected trough a bidirectional parallel cable. Since printing trough magicfilter does not work, I tried to generate a file using gslj and send that directly to /dev/lp0: cat file.lj /dev/lp0 This takes about 4 seconds and produces no error. But nothing is printed and there is no error message on the printer. tunelp /dev/lp0 -s gives the following: /dev/lp0 status is 240, out of paper, on-line, error but the printer is not out of paper and displays no error. Also printing works if the printer is connected to a Windows NT machine. tunelp /dev/lp0 tells me that lp0 is using polling. lp1 and lp2 are not configured. cat /proc/interrupts gives: 0:8290233 timer 1: 35309 keyboard 2: 0 cascade 3:188 + serial 4: 73807 + serial 8: 2 + rtc 9: 116284 NE2000 13: 1 math error 14:4628478 + ide0 Why does printing not work? Any comments welcome! Stef -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: So whos going to ALS
Woohoo.. Just got the permission to skip two days from office for ALS. Will be there with my machine.. Dual celeron (300 oc'd 450) with a 19' monitor. Who's co ordinating... Regards, Vaidhy On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 07:30:30AM -0700, Greg Heather Vence wrote: I could haul my printer in again. Also, I've got a real machine this year... AMD K6-III 450MHz Viper 770, NetGear 10/100 NIC... 19 Optiquest monitor. Who's coordinating? TIA -- Greg. - Original Message - From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:12 PM Subject: RE: So whos going to ALS On 05-Oct-99 Johnie Ingram wrote: ... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas? Joey Hess and myself are going. We have one extra space in the hotel room. Preferably for a Debian developer, preferably one who needs to save the money. We have two double beds and currently three people, a fourth is welcome. If you want a spot on the floor, well that can be arranged as well (-: We arrive Wednesday night at 7:30pm, so room is available from Wednesday night on thru Saturday night. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/06/99 at 06:28 PM, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:13:41PM -0400, Terry Katz wrote: 2.1.3-2 is one that does it ... Seems to behave itself here. But then I only have fvwm2 installed, none of these fancy new wms. I had individual ones start up on menu's invocation with some upgraded packages. First olvwm, then wmaker, then I finally got the thread killed (thought I had it the first time, but another was somehow spawned). Menu's been removed now. My upgrade came before the warning... yech. And I had the usual (?) assortment of wm's. That's now been trimmed. Kenward -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Linux/GDI printers/Samba
Hi, I would like to use my Linux server as a print server. I have a Xerox Xe80 combined copier /printer. The problem is it follows the GDI initiative. This is where they design a printer that is so dumb you can't pipe text to it and have it print. They moved a good bit of intelligence from the printer to the PC driver. For this reason, the external print servers (I.e. Intel netport, Netgear print server) will not work with this printer. My question is regarding Samba sharing. I don't have an urgent need to print from the Linux server. I was going to set up a raw print device to be shared across the network. Has anyone had any success setting up GDI printers through Linux? I get the impression the intelligence in the Xerox print driver must be directly connected to the parallel port ! I called Xerox and they don't directly support Linux. Does anyone directly support Xerox ? BTW Warning to all, these GDI printers are becomming more and more popular as software (driver) is cheap when compared to manufacturing smarter hardware. Networking can only be done via a PC/Windows with a printer share. (unless we hear differently ...) thanks in advance, paul - Double E Solutions Attn: Paul McHale 4912 Effingham Dayton, Ohio 45431 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: 937-253-7610 Mobile: 937-371-2828 Fax:408-351-8803 Home: 937-253-6260 (anytime) -
Re: Sound Config Probs
I guess the post 2.0 kernels handle this differently. I know that if you use 2.0.3x the isapnp runs AFTER the kernel inits built-in's but BEFORE modules are loaded. The best thing would be for the driver to do the pnp stuff itself which is how (I think) it happens in windows. I'll have to revist this sound config stuff when I move to 2.2.1x (I'm waiting for 2.2.13 since 2.2.12 STILL has some bad bugs in it. Come on Allen!) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Kenneth Scharf wrote: I have compiled the sound support into my kernel for a SB16 card also using isapnp. A few points which I noticed. 1. you MUST not compile INTO the kernel, make sound drivers a module. After installing your new kernel [snip] Not always true. I have a Creative Labs AWE64 ISA PNP. I use kernel 2.3.18ac10 and the built in isapnp routines. I also compiled sound support INTO the kernel and it works fine. The kernel iaspnp inits the card at bootup and then a few processes later the kernel sound finds the card and it works fine. Then again, not everyone likes using bleeding edge kernels. --Ian Ehrenwald = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: silly consoles question
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote: Hi all, I'm actually making many modifications of my system, so I'm used to open two consoles in root, and 3 as user. Is there a possibility, as soon as I open the first console as root, to automagically open the others AFAIK no. Martin -- If the box says 'Windows 95 or better', it should run on Linux, right? - anonymous For public PGP-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with /dev/lp0
I believe it is /dev/lp1=lpt1:. Are you sure you are using the correct device ? Yes, /dev/lp0 should be the correct device. Also I can see the printer in a way, since tunelp /dev/lp0 only gives specific output if the printer is connected. Stef
Toshiba 220 CS - notebook
Whitch files should I download to install Debian 2.1 on notebook in title of message ? Greetings Marek Chojnacki (Poland) my e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware Clock to GMT instead of local time
Run tzconfig. On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:47:50PM +0300, Ali Onur UYAR wrote: I had been using Debian since July of 1998. It had been a dual boot NT/Debian Box. At the time of installation I remember selecting something like 'Set HW Clock to Local Time'. Now that I've dumped NT completely and I want to change it to 'HW Clock set to GMT' as I believe that is the way UNIXish machines should be configured. The question is: what configuration, startup scripts am I supposed to modify so that everthing will work correctly. -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Mount as many partitions as possible read only (what do I do with /etc?)
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Enrico Zini wrote: What's The Right Way (tm) to have / mounted read-only? You're not really supposed to. / has to be read-write because it contains /etc. /etc has to be on / because it wants to be consistent both before and after the non-root partitions are mounted. You aren't really gaining much by making / read-only. If you're really paranoid, sync after you mount, unmount, passwd, etc. In practice, / is rarely corrupted by crashes.
Re: silly consoles question
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 04:19:49PM +0200, Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote: Hi all, I'm actually making many modifications of my system, so I'm used to open two consoles in root, and 3 as user. Is there a possibility, as soon as I open the first console as root, to automagically open the others It can be done using openvt, see openvt(1) (openvt is in kbd package, and also console-tools maybe). -Lex pgpy4xncTHplL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Where is open?
Hello! I cannot find open package in potato. Does anybody know where is it? May be open binary moved into some package? Thanks -- Serge Gavrilov
Re: Apache segfaulting upon perl module load
Thank you, Doug. This turned out to be the solution. A complicating factor was that I was building from .deb files, since I run Debian, and the mod_perl source .deb blows up. I wanted to do things in such a way that I ended up with good .debs, to make it easier to deinstall, replace, etc. I did manage to build an Apache deb file with statically linked mod_perl. This works. If anyone is interested in the deb, let me know. If there is a good common place to post it, let me know that, too. Otherwise, I can stick it up on my web site. I'd like to make a source deb, too, with the extra stuff needed for static mod_perl, but I'm not too sure about how to go about that. By the way, I've noticed that folks are having the same problem with RPMs from RedHat. I hope the developers just get it all fixed soon. ;-) (I have filed a bug report with Debian). Doug MacEachern wrote: one solution is to build Apache and mod_perl from source, and linking mod_perl static instead of a dso. -Doug On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Keith G. Murphy wrote: I'm having a strange problem where apache is segfaulting when I start it. The only time I get the segfault is when DynaLoader.pm loads an .so file, for example, DBI.so, resulting from use DBI or use Apache::DBI in startup.pl. But use Apache::Status, resulting in loads of Request.so, et al, also causes the segfault. I'm running Debian Linux, Slink, kernel 2.0.36. The relevant Debian packages are: apache-1.3.9-8 libapache-mod-perl-1.21-5 libc6-2.1.2-5 libdbi-perl_1.12-1 (that's where the DBI.so comes from) I've tried compiling and using the packages from CPAN also, but get the same thing. I don't feel at this point it's the .so files themselves, but a problem with apache or mod-perl. I should mention, though, that this problem seemed to go away Friday upon an Apache reinstall, only to start recurring, which made me suspect hardware problems. Memory tests show nothing, though, and the problem is consistent and isolated to this situation. Anyone else have problems with this configuration or have any clue where to look next? TIA.
Re: Where is open?
*- On 6 Oct, Serge Gavrilov wrote about Where is open? Hello! I cannot find open package in potato. Does anybody know where is it? May be open binary moved into some package? Thanks A search for bin/open on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages.html under 'Search the Contents of the Latest Release' with unstable selected returns: ./usr/bin/open base/console-tools ./usr/bin/openvtbase/console-tools ./usr/sbin/openldapconfig net/openldapd usr/bin/openhostadmin/tcpquota usr/bin/openvt utils/kbd usr/sbin/openfw admin/tcpquota -- Brian Servis Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: problem with /dev/lp0
Quoting Debian Mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I believe it is /dev/lp1=lpt1:. Are you sure you are using the correct device ? Yes, /dev/lp0 should be the correct device. Also I can see the printer in a way, since tunelp /dev/lp0 only gives specific output if the printer is connected. Should it? My machines running 2.0.36 are all printing on /dev/lp1 and that's to LPT1 and 0x378. I'm not sure why you're using 0x278 in the BIOS (conventionally LPT2). OTOH my machines running 2.2.10 all print on /dev/lp0 (but that's still LPT1 and 0x378). This is similar to many other people who have reported their configurations when surprised by the change from /dev/lp1 to /dev/lp0 caused by migration to 2.2.x kernels. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
brokenness somewhere in netbase or dpkg (or apt?)
Hi, A couple of days ago when I apt-get upgraded, it gave me a new version of netbase, 3.16-3. When it got to the install part, it ran its setup script and started asking me questions about my networking config (which surprised me -- why didn't it just use the config that was already there?). I answered the questions and continued. It gave me an error and quit. I put a hold on my previous version of netbase, 2.16-2, and retried to apt-get upgrade. Now I get: templestowe:~# apt-get upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back librpm1 lyx netbase rpm 68 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/21.2MB of archives. After unpacking 10.3MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Can't use string (ARRAY(0x8231354)) as an ARRAY ref while strict refs in use at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Element/Dialog/Select.pm line 46, GEN0 chunk 5. E: Sub-process dpkg-preconfig --apt returned an error code (29) E: Failure running script dpkg-preconfig --apt Not that I know any perl, but that line is in this file: # If it is more than will fit on the screen, just display the prompt # first in a series of message boxes. if ($lines $screen_lines - 2) { $this-frontend-showtext($text); # Now make sure the short description is displayed in the # dialog they actually enter info into. ($text, $lines, $columns)=$this-frontend-sizetext( $this-question-description); } my $default=$this-question-value; my @params=(); #-the below is line #46 my @[EMAIL PROTECTED]question-choices}; I don't know if netbase is actually the problem at all -- it also gave me a new version of dpkg, 1.4.1.13, and the error seems more likely to be coming from there. Any ideas/suggestions/comments/snide remarks? Please cc: me on any list posts. Cheers, Ari Heitner --- DC: 703/5733512 CMU: 412/8622699 www.singularity-software.com --- You know how your whole life flashes in front of your eyes before you die? That's just gdb unwinding the call stack . . .
Re: Mount as many partitions as possible read only (what do I do with /etc?)
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 08:15:14PM +1000, Brian May wrote: What's The Right Way (tm) to have / mounted read-only? My diskless package (I just uploaded 0.3.2 to master today) does what you want (but for diskless systems). Sadly, my system is the network server: the one and only system that cannot be diskless. It diverts /sbin/init to /sbin/init.orig, and installs a shell script in place of /sbin/init. This shell script mounts /etc from an NFS server. This can prove to be a good idea, mounting /etc from a rw partition. It will indeed require some work to make it a robust script, since the etc partition will have to be fscked, action should be taken if fsck fails, etc. ( :) ), just like in checkroot.sh I thought this was an old question with an obvious solution, but it's turning out to be nontrivial. We have a policy allowing /usr to be mounted read-only, have we nothing for / ? The quick-and-easy solution seems to be the sync mount option suggested by Peter, and if this is a new issue I'll file a wishlist bug agains debian-policy. Bye and thanks! Enrico -- GPG public key available on finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mount as many partitions as possible read only (what do I do with /etc?)
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 11:07:33AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: I did mount / with the sync option on a server of mine. So the danger of data loss is reduced a bit. Since / is not that big a fsck is quite fast. Thanks! This seems the best available solution for my system. Bye! Enrico -- GPG public key available on finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]