Re: fetchmail no rula
El Wed, Dec 22, 1999, TooMany... En cuanto a la manera de hacer del fetchmail, yo lo que tengo es un script, que cuando lo ejecuto me pide el passwd (es una locura tener el passwd en un fichero, aunque estés en tu casa - también me llaman Fox Mulder ;-)-) y te Pero eso implica estar ante el teclado siempre que te bajas el correo. Yo tengo automatizado el tema de correo/news/www... y se conecta a las 4 de la mañana, mientras duermo. La comodidad compensa de sobras (para mi) el riesgo de tener la contraseña en un fichero, que por otra parte está con permisos 600, algo bastante seguro (con una buena contraseña para tu login). Un saludote. -- Cosme P. Cuevas --- Claves GnuPG/PGP disponibles. http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lounge/8698/ pgpX9wSXzeRxN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Red Ethernet
jcarlos, Puesto que tu intencion es compartir una unica conexion a la red, necesitas configurar un router tal y como queda indicado en el manual que mencionas. No es una pieza especial de hardware, sino que lo unico que necesitas hacer es usar uno de los ordenadores como router (IP Masquerading, etc.). Eso si, ese ordenador necesita dos tarjetas de red: una de las tarjetas para conectar al exterior, y la otra para conectar a la red interna mediante un pequegno hub. O al menos asi es como me lo he montado yo siempre. Si alguien tiene otra idea, por favor, corregidme. Nitebirdz On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, jcarlos wrote: Tengo cuatro ordenadores con los que quiero montar una red eternet(para compartir la conexión a internet de uno de ellos). Ya me leí la Guía de administración de Redes, pero me quedó una duda... ¿Necesito un router(apropos: ¿es un aparato especial o solo un ordenador configurado de otra forma?) para conectarlos o con solo las tarjetas de red y el cable me basta? Entonces ¿qué otro Hard y Soft necesito? thnx -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [OFF TOPIC] me cuelgan el modem desde afuera
On Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 03:21:00PM +0100, Xose Manoel Ramos wrote: El Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 10:55:22PM +0100, Cosme P. Cuevas contaba: ... Todo eso parece improbable, increíble, ya lo se, pero yo puedo decir que el día que me estaba bajando este mensaje se me cortó la comunicación, y mira tu... justamente había un mensaje que contenía la cadena de marras. El modem es un ingenio controlado por microprocesador que sigue las instrucciones de un programa (EPROM o FLASH), (bueno los winmodem no... ;-) y por tanto sigue un programa que escribió un programador. Bueno me dejo de rollos... Yo creo que el que hizo el soft deberia haber hecho que los comandos de escape se reconozcan solo si son recibidos desde la linea serie Y NO desde la linea telefonica, pero DEBERIA no quiere decir que sea asi en todos los modem... Lo mismo pasará con los tiempos de pausa de antes y después Esas tres cosas no deben haber sido testadas demasiado durante el desarrollo, asi que sospecho que fallaran en muchisimos modems... AUN PEOR: Y se me ha pasado por la cabeza que te pueden enviar un ping con datos (la cadena de marras) y tu PC al contestarlo te cuelgue... ¿es posible? Espero que a nadie se le ocurra hacer un escaneado con esos ping... ¡uff! me cojen escalofrios solo de pensarlo... Definitivamente le voy a meter la cadena ATS2=255 en la iniciación del modem ¿A quien hay que e-mailear para que la incluyan como cadena por defecto al configurar con pppconfig? Saludos, -- Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.1 slink)
preguntas sobre bashrc. bash_profile, etc/environment, etc.
Hola de nuevo: ¿Dónde puedo encontrar información en castellano sobre la configuración y variables de los ficheros /etc/environment /etc/bashrc, /etc/profile, bash_profile, etc.? Por lo que sé, los ficheros anteriores que figuran en /etc/ son de configuración general de recursos para todos los usuarios. En cada $HOME/ se editarían los particulares de cada uno. Lo que no sé es cómo funciona todo esto y las variables de entorno en Debian. ¿Sería alguien tan amable de explicármelo?. Gracias Saludos -- Oscar González -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuario Linux nº 143001/97711 Envía copia de las respuestas de las news a mi e_mail. Gracias
Re: [OFF TOPIC] me cuelgan el modem desde afuera
On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 08:04:39PM +0100, Manel Marin wrote: [...] AUN PEOR: Y se me ha pasado por la cabeza que te pueden enviar un ping con datos (la cadena de marras) y tu PC al contestarlo te cuelgue... ¿es posible? [...] Pues precisamente eso fue lo que me paso a mi y por eso inicie este hilo. Alguien me hizo un ping con la cadena y mi maquina al contestarlo me colgo el modem. Hasta donde yo se la cadena funciona solo en un sentido, de la serial al modem y no desde la linea al modem. Felipe Sanchez
Re: [OFF TOPIC] me cuelgan el modem desde afuera
Blu wrote: Hasta donde yo se la cadena funciona solo en un sentido, de la serial al modem y no desde la linea al modem. Bueno, ante la duda me picaba la curiosidad y lo comprobé ayer personalmente. Efectivamente una candena entrante a través de la línea telefónica también puede colgar el modem. El porque no soy capaz de decirlo. Aunque pensando un poco maliciosamente se me ha ocurrido que cuando nos conectamos a internet no solo usamos nuestro modem. Si no me equivoco (que me corriga alguien si no es así) el proveedor de internet también debe tener un modem al que se conecta el nuestro. Si este proveedor no ha configurado su modem correctamente (lo cual creo que es lo más probable) entonces el modem que cuelga no es el nuestro, sino el de nuestro proveedor. Que opinais? Si es así sirve de muy poco que protegamos nuestro modem pues con el otro no podremos hacer nada. Hasta más bits, -- --- Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez http://alcor.lcc.uma.es/~trivino Usuario registrado de linux nº 53043 --- La medida de programar es programar sin medida
autentificacion con apache de RH y de Debian
Estoy migrando un servidor de intranet con RedHat4.2 a Debian/potato (si, si, nada de windows a Linux). Ya he pasado de PHP2 a PHP3. Ahora estoy con el apache. Y es que tiene en un directorio un control de acceso con el archivo .htaccess que no consigo que haga lo mismo en RH4.2 que en Debian. Debaria pedir un usuario y una clave y verificar que sea un usuario valido de la maquina. Consigo que me lo pida pero luego siempre me falla la autentificacion. Mi .htaccess es asi AuthName telefonos AuthType Basic require valid-user Y los modulos de apache han quedado asi: # The Debian package of Apache loads every feature as shared modules. # Please keep this LoadModule: line here, it is needed for installation. # LoadModule vhost_alias_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_vhost_alias.so # LoadModule env_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_env.so LoadModule config_log_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_log_config.so LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_rewrite.so # LoadModule mime_magic_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_mime_magic.so LoadModule mime_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_mime.so LoadModule negotiation_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_negotiation.so LoadModule status_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_status.so # LoadModule info_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_info.so # LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_include.so LoadModule autoindex_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_autoindex.so LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so # LoadModule asis_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_asis.so # LoadModule imap_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_imap.so # LoadModule action_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_actions.so # LoadModule speling_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_speling.so LoadModule userdir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_userdir.so # LoadModule proxy_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libproxy.so LoadModule alias_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_alias.so LoadModule access_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_access.so LoadModule auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth.so # LoadModule anon_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_anon.so # LoadModule dbm_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_dbm.so # LoadModule db_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_db.so # LoadModule digest_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_digest.so # LoadModule cern_meta_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cern_meta.so LoadModule expires_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_expires.so # LoadModule headers_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_headers.so # LoadModule usertrack_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_usertrack.so LoadModule unique_id_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_unique_id.so LoadModule setenvif_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_setenvif.so LoadModule sys_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_sys.so # LoadModule put_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_put.so # LoadModule throttle_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_throttle.so # LoadModule auth_ldap_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/auth_ldap.so # LoadModule allowdev_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_allowdev.so # LoadModule pgsql_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_pgsql.so # LoadModule cvs_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cvs.so # LoadModule define_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_define.so # LoadModule eaccess_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_eaccess.so LoadModule php3_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp3.so # LoadModule roaming_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_roaming.so Alguien me sugiere algun camino. Gracias David DABICI O^O FELICES NAVIDADES Y PROSPERO AÑO 1900
CNEWS
Estoy intentando instalar el CNEWS, lo he instalado, pero intento mandar un mensaje a la lista que tiene por defecto (news.announce.newusers) y no me hace ni pajolero caso (con el Netscape de otro ordenata en la misma red). Con el telnet (como decia la Linux Actual 7) envio el mensaje, y lo acepto, pero al leer el grupo no tiene mensajes Alguien sabe de que va esto /\_ \[EMAIL PROTECTED] \/_/\ \ _ __ ._. __ \ \ \ /\___ \ /\ \ /| |/\ \ \|/ __ \ \ \\/| __ \\ \ \|| |\ \ \ /\V/\ /\ \_\_\ \/\ \L\ \\ \ \| | \ \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@/b \ \__/\ \/ \ \___| \ \_\ \\_// +-\/_/--\/___/---\/__/\/_/-oOo---oOo-+ || | Carlos Javier Sosa GonzalezIUMA / DSI Division | |E.T.S.I. de Telecomunicacion| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]Campus Universitario de Tafira | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ. de Las Palmas de Gran Canaria | | Tel.: +34 928 451 252 35017 Las Palmas de Gran Canaria| | Fax : +34 928 451 243 Canary Islands. SPAIN | || ++
sólo ésto...
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#includefiestorro_noche_vieja.h
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Configuración del frame buffer
Hola de nuevo, en vista de la imposibilidad de encontrar soporte para mi tarjeta gráfica (S3 Savage3D) con Xfree86 -ni siquiera la versión 3.3.5-, me aconsejaron que lo intentara con el framebuffer; después de leer el Howto sobre el tema y realizar lo que allí se decía sigo sin poder acceder a un entorno gráfico. El problema concreto que se me presenta es el siguiente: al intentar arrancar X windows con el servidor XF86_FBDev me da el error : no existe el dispositivo /dev/fb0, sin embargo yo lo creé conforme decía el Howto, 'mknod /dev/fb0 c 29 0', me podéis decir ¿qué me falta?, o ¿qué he hecho mal?. Gracias
laptop compaq contura 430C
esto... ya se que puede sonar estupido pero... ¿alguien sabe como entrar al setup de este ordenador? (obviamente no dispongo de los manuales, y ya me he perdido un par de veces por la web de compaq) ta'luego -- /--\ | Miembro de LIMA (Linux Malaga) | | http://bytez.dhis.org/lima| \--/ / rebeldin es un i486 con \ | Debian Linux 2.0,Kernel 2.2.13 | \--/
Re: Modem ruidoso
El Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 05:39:43PM +0100, Daniel Payno dijo: En la cadena de Inicialización del modem (por ejemplo ATZ|) metele un M0, en plan ATM0Z| (creo, si no va prueba ATZM0|)... El | es importante, por cierto... Lo que te puede variar es donde tienes la Init... o está en un archivo de /etc/ppp o en /etc/chatoptions (o algo así, no recuerdo...) Si usas kppp|wppp|gppp, pues te será sencillo encontrarlo. mi modem (un diamond supra 56k) pasa de mi olimpicamente, es decir, le digo ATM0S0Z y me dice el muy cabr*n: OK marco y me pita al mismo volumen... ¿alguna ideilla? -- /--\ | Miembro de LIMA (Linux Malaga) | | http://bytez.dhis.org/lima| \--/ / rebeldin es un i486 con \ | Debian Linux 2.0,Kernel 2.2.13 | \--/
Re: laptop compaq contura 430C
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Samuel Montosa wrote: esto... ya se que puede sonar estupido pero... ¿alguien sabe como entrar al setup de este ordenador? Yo tengo un Thoshiba y hace falta un disco para modificar la bios. (obviamente no dispongo de los manuales, y ya me he perdido un par de veces por la web de compaq) Busca y busca pues sino lo tienes ;) /\_ \[EMAIL PROTECTED] \/_/\ \ _ __ ._. __ \ \ \ /\___ \ /\ \ /| |/\ \ \|/ __ \ \ \\/| __ \\ \ \|| |\ \ \ /\V/\ /\ \_\_\ \/\ \L\ \\ \ \| | \ \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@/b \ \__/\ \/ \ \___| \ \_\ \\_// +-\/_/--\/___/---\/__/\/_/-oOo---oOo-+ || | Carlos Javier Sosa GonzalezIUMA / DSI Division | |E.T.S.I. de Telecomunicacion| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]Campus Universitario de Tafira | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ. de Las Palmas de Gran Canaria | | Tel.: +34 928 451 252 35017 Las Palmas de Gran Canaria| | Fax : +34 928 451 243 Canary Islands. SPAIN | || ++
Re: preguntas sobre bashrc. bash_profile, etc/environment, etc.
El Sun, Nov 28, 1999 a las 12:44:37PM +, Oscar González dijo: Hola de nuevo: ¿Dónde puedo encontrar información en castellano sobre la configuración y variables de los ficheros /etc/environment /etc/bashrc, /etc/profile, bash_profile, etc.? Por lo que sé, los ficheros anteriores que figuran en /etc/ son de configuración general de recursos para todos los usuarios. En cada $HOME/ se editarían los particulares de cada uno. Lo que no sé es cómo funciona todo esto y las variables de entorno en Debian. ¿Sería alguien tan amable de explicármelo?. Gracias uhmm Existen, a mi entender, dos grandes clases de variables: - Las de la Shell que utilices (suele ser Bash) - y la de los programas que tengas... Las de la Shell te las encuentras bien definidas en su correspondiente página man (man bash), que en el caso de esta shell, incluso lo puedes leer en castellano gracias a la gente de Pameli. El otro grupo es muy extenso, debido a que cada programador puede poner las variables de entorno que le parezcan. La unica manera de saber las variables de entorno adecuadas para obtener el mejor rendimiento de un determinado programa es coger y leerse con detenimiento tanto las páginas man que tuviera como el código fuente, siempre que tengas acceso a él. La recomendación evidente es que te mires las generales, la de la Shell que utilices :) -- =8= ___ _ _ / ___|_ _| (_) ___ Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias | | _| | | | | |/ __| Pasate por nuestro web | |_| | |_| | | | (__ http://www.gulic.org/ \|\__,_|_|_|\___| Clave GPG en las paginas de Gulic Key fingerprint = F734 17F5 3AB6 E1F6 11C4 B498 5B3E FEDF 90DF =8= pgpnf5EkewfpR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Configuración del frame buffer
El Thu, Dec 23, 1999 a las 04:39:06PM -, Miguel A. Abarca dijo: Hola de nuevo, en vista de la imposibilidad de encontrar soporte para mi tarjeta gráfica (S3 Savage3D) con Xfree86 -ni siquiera la versión 3.3.5-, me aconsejaron que lo intentara con el framebuffer; después de leer el Howto sobre el tema y realizar lo que allí se decía sigo sin poder acceder a un entorno gráfico. El problema concreto que se me presenta es el siguiente: al intentar arrancar X windows con el servidor XF86_FBDev me da el error : no existe el dispositivo /dev/fb0, sin embargo yo lo creé conforme decía el Howto, 'mknod /dev/fb0 c 29 0', me podéis decir ¿qué me falta?, o ¿qué he hecho mal?. Gracias La pregunta es tonta, pero ... ¿Has recompilado el kernel para que te soporte el framebuffer? -- =8= ___ _ _ / ___|_ _| (_) ___ Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias | | _| | | | | |/ __| Pasate por nuestro web | |_| | |_| | | | (__ http://www.gulic.org/ \|\__,_|_|_|\___| Clave GPG en las paginas de Gulic Key fingerprint = F734 17F5 3AB6 E1F6 11C4 B498 5B3E FEDF 90DF =8= pgpjBIi2LPtwQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: laptop compaq contura 430C
Hola, Es un poco offtopic pero... En el caso del Toshiva si mantienes pulsado ESC durante el arranque provocaras un error y tras pulsar F1 pasaras a la imagen de TSETUP que hay en rom. Saludos cordiales, David Requena Zabala Information Systems and Technology CSC Ploenzke S.A. |+--- || Carlos Javier| || Sosa Gonzalez| || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || pgc.es | || | || 23/12/99 | || 19.33| || | |+--- | || | To: Samuel Montosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: Lista Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org, (bcc: | | David Requena/PLZ/CSC) | | Subject: Re: laptop compaq contura 430C | | On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Samuel Montosa wrote: esto... ya se que puede sonar estupido pero... ?alguien sabe como entrar al setup de este ordenador? Yo tengo un Thoshiba y hace falta un disco para modificar la bios. (obviamente no dispongo de los manuales, y ya me he perdido un par de veces por la web de compaq)
Re: Modem ruidoso
Hola, On mié, 22 dic 1999 01:45:38 Samuel Montosa wrote: El Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 05:39:43PM +0100, Daniel Payno dijo: En la cadena de Inicialización del modem (por ejemplo ATZ|) metele un M0, en plan ATM0Z| (creo, si no va prueba ATZM0|)... El | es importante, por cierto... mi modem (un diamond supra 56k) pasa de mi olimpicamente, es decir, le digo ATM0S0Z y me dice el muy cabr*n: OK marco y me pita al mismo volumen... El ATZ último hace que el modem se resetee y pierda toda la configuración metida anteriormente. Yo creo que lo conveniente es que lo hagas en 2 pasos. Primero envias ATZ y cuando recibas el OK, mandas el ATM0. Un saludo, JonN
Re: IMAP not allowing access
Just a random guess: check in /etc/pam.d -- I already have all the latest software. -- Laura Winslow, Family Matters Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. Advertising Policy: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/spamoff.html GnuPG Public Key: http://www.redrival.com/dlitz/gpgkey.asc Fingerprint: 0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0 pgp9XqgiamSLU.pgp Description: PGP signature
netdate in potato??
Hello all, Can anyone tell me which package in potato contains 'netdate' or some other equivalent program?? thanks, Tim -- Tim Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let the frantic Goddess and delerious drunk cry together in shadow for the puppy's sad stare, the forest and the death of the moon.
Re: Best way to be a tester
I believe you will get a better answer if you'll try to post it on debian-boot@lists.debian.org I'm about ready to do an install of debian, and thought the most useful thing might be for me to test the new (potato?) install procedure from scratch. I figure most people have been upgrading existing distributions, so it would be more valuable to start without one. Is this the best (that is, most useful to debian, yet feasible and reasonably safe for me) thing to do? If so, exactly what should I do? There was a notice about a month ago about the need to test boot floppies, but it points to some alpha links, and I think we're past alpha. There was also notice about a testing distribution at lully.debian.org, but I can not access that site (is it down? obsolete?) as of 11:45 am pacific Wednesday. Relevant facts: * I have existing systems (NT and 98) and work on the computer, and don't want them destroyed. * I have CD's for Debian 2.1 * Only a 56k modem, but would consider an overnight download. * Processor is AMD K6-2/400. Asus P2B motherboard. 256Mg Ram. * Installation will be to a 13.6 Gg Maxtor EIDE drive. I've reserved small partitions below 4Mg for root and swap, and a larger one at the end of the drive. All this is in an extended partition. * I have installed Debian several times before, and am comfortable saving boot sectors and switching them around. If doing the whole thing is inadvisable for some reason, I'd also be willing to test boot floppies and the initial install procedure, and then go ahead with a regular 2.1 install. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: IMAP not allowing access
remove /etc/cram-md5.pwd if you don't use it. On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 06:37:55PM -0500, Matt Kopishke wrote: Hi, I just did a update on my machine to get the latest potato and imap seem's to have broken in the process. I get the following error in the log: Login failed: user-name has no CRAM-MD5 password, host=[192.168.0.20]. This is on a rather important machine, can you help? -Matt- ---+-+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.ucook.com | What Will be Will be. | Web Guru, Perl jocky, | (Accept it) | Windows basher, etc... |W. Overlock| --Debian GNU/Linux-- | | ---+-+ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Marcin Kurc Indiana Institute of Technology System Administrator http://me.indtech.edu http://www.indtech.edu
Odd sound issue
Hello, I'm running a Debian 2.1r4 box with a SB 16 WavEffects (CT4171) sound card. It seems to work in some things but not others. I have support for it compiled into the kernel and I have 'PnP OS?=No' in the BIOS (Award 4.51pg, I believe). cat english.au /dev/audio works fine, but xanim english.au doesn't. kmedia plays .wav's, but xanim doesn't. xmcd works fine, but rvplayer 5.0 doesn't. Any suggestions? TIA :) Matthew Thompson http://mattyt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~mattyt --Someday, I'll have a web page.--
Re: apt-get can not remount /usr ro. How to use lsof to find the offending files?
On 22/12/99 Shaul Karl wrote: Let me see if I got it correctly: mount can tell whether I have open file descriptors that are related to removed files and there for it does not let me remount the fs ro? What does it care? Will remounting the fs erase the data from these blocks? Why was I allowed to remount /usr rw when apt-get was started? the blocks have to be erased BEFORE the fs is remounted read only, since a read only fs cannot be modified in any way (otherwise it would not really be read only) you are allowed to remount it read-write as long as its not read only due to hardware (ie cdrom) but you can only remount it read only again as long as there are no pending writes or a file is open with write permission. programs do not open themselves with write permission however. (only a braindamaged software would try and modify itself) BTW: After I sent my previous email I tried to convince mount to let me remount the fs ro by quitting some applications and then changing to run level 3 and then back to 2, which did not help. But then I stopped my mgetty-fax daemon, and this enabled me the to mount the fs ro. I restarted the daemon after wards. As far as I remember no megtty package was involved in the upgrade, although it seems to be using some perl stuff and perl was indeed upgraded. I wonder if others can verify that the meggty-fax daemon in particular, or perhaps perl is responsible for not letting mount to remount /usr ro after an upgrade. Can it be that it some how this daemon opens a file rw but this is ignored when the fs is mounted ro? no that is not possble, the kernel will not allow such a call to succeed, if mgetty-fax was overwritten when it was still running the old copy was not removed from disk, but its link count went to zero, as soon as the file descripter is released then the blocks are freed. I got a message in private from the author or lsof, it turns out there is a way to show files of this nature: At 10:14 -0500 22/12/99, Vic Abell wrote: The +L option to lsof will help. It tells lsof to display the link count for open files. A file that has been rm'd has a link count of 0. If you want, you can specify an integer afer +L and lsof will only display open files whose link count is less than the integer. So, for example, to find all unlinked open files: $ lsof +L1 that should work to show exactly what is being the problem and let you restart the offenders without the drastic telinit 1 -- Ethan Benson To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/
ftp
Hi, It seems that I have a difficulty in setting up ftpd on an Intel machine. On a SunClassic, it was OK. I think I have followed all the steps in man in.ftpd, but the following is what I usually get: okidz:~$ ftp localhost Connected to localhost. 220- hi, wassup? 220 okidz.pindad.co.id FTP server (Version 6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.10) ready. Name (localhost:okidz): okidz 550 Authentication failure Login failed. ftp That's it; no prompt for entering password. Is this problem related to PAM? Oki
Next codename
Hi, What would be the name of the next Debian version after potato? Wheezy? Oki
Re: apt-get can not remount /usr ro. How to use lsof to find the offending files?
On 22/12/99 Shaul Karl wrote: Let me see if I got it correctly: mount can tell whether I have open file descriptors that are related to removed files and there for it does not let me remount the fs ro? What does it care? Will remounting the fs erase the data from these blocks? Why was I allowed to remount /usr rw when apt-get was started? the blocks have to be erased BEFORE the fs is remounted read only, since a read only fs cannot be modified in any way (otherwise it would not really be read only) you are allowed to remount it read-write as long as its not read only due to hardware (ie cdrom) but you can only remount it read only again as long as there are no pending writes or a file is open with write permission. programs do not open themselves with write permission however. (only a braindamaged software would try and modify itself) BTW: After I sent my previous email I tried to convince mount to let me remount the fs ro by quitting some applications and then changing to run level 3 and then back to 2, which did not help. But then I stopped my mgetty-fax daemon, and this enabled me the to mount the fs ro. I restarted the daemon after wards. As far as I remember no megtty package was involved in the upgrade, although it seems to be using some perl stuff and perl was indeed upgraded. I wonder if others can verify that the meggty-fax daemon in particular, or perhaps perl is responsible for not letting mount to remount /usr ro after an upgrade. Can it be that it some how this daemon opens a file rw but this is ignored when the fs is mounted ro? no that is not possble, the kernel will not allow such a call to succeed, if mgetty-fax was overwritten when it was still running the old copy was not removed from disk, but its link count went to zero, as soon as the file descripter is released then the blocks are freed. I got a message in private from the author or lsof, it turns out there is a way to show files of this nature: At 10:14 -0500 22/12/99, Vic Abell wrote: The +L option to lsof will help. It tells lsof to display the link count for open files. A file that has been rm'd has a link count of 0. If you want, you can specify an integer afer +L and lsof will only display open files whose link count is less than the integer. So, for example, to find all unlinked open files: $ lsof +L1 that should work to show exactly what is being the problem and let you restart the offenders without the drastic telinit 1 Can it be that the removed files are not the problem with the failure of the remounting? [04:17:04 /tmp]# mount -o remount,ro /usr/ mount: /usr is busy [04:19:08 /tmp]# lsof +L1 |grep /usr/ [04:19:16 /tmp]#
shutdown
Hi, I'm having problem in creating a script for executing shutdown from a normal username: okidz:~$ /sbin/shutdown -h now shutdown: must be root. I have tried to put a username in /etc/shutdown.allow and executing shutdown -a -h now, but unfortunately it doesn't work. Problem is, after logging out from Gnome, the easiest way to shut the machine down is to press ctl-alt f4, login as root, and then type the command. I'd like to have something like SGI machines; having a username (with password) for doing the task. Question is, how? Pressing ctl-alt-del seems to work; it gives you a chance to log out first (from Gnome). Nice. But unfortunately, after you choose to log out, X quits and then gdm restarts :-( Thanks in advance, Oki
Re: What happened?
On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 09:24:54AM +, Ed Cogburn wrote: Rob Hensley wrote: Hmm...how come this list was so active up until the time that I sent out my post to it? I was hopein' to get an answer sometime soon if possible, could some please help. At least answer someone elses post so I know that I'm still on the lists and it's still going. My question again for all of you that didn't read Help with installed packages... is: I was just wondering if there was a way I could find out every package (all the thing's I've used apt-get to install...not the base packages) installed on my computer. I'm running slink on a 486/33 with 12mb ram...with kernel 2.0.38. Please respond soon. Thanks! As long as dpkg is not in a broken state: dpkg --list. man dpkg Just to follow up on the rest of the question. There's no way to tell which packages you installed with apt-get. In the end, dpkg does the installation and there's no differentiation between whether you used apt-get, dselect, dftp, or bare dpkg. All you can find out is what's installed, available, and broken. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: Odd sound issue
On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 05:02:08PM -0800, Matthew C. Thompson wrote: Hello, I'm running a Debian 2.1r4 box with a SB 16 WavEffects (CT4171) sound card. It seems to work in some things but not others. I have support for it compiled into the kernel and I have 'PnP OS?=No' in the BIOS (Award 4.51pg, I believe). cat english.au /dev/audio works fine, but xanim english.au doesn't. kmedia plays .wav's, but xanim doesn't. xmcd works fine, but rvplayer 5.0 doesn't. Just guessing, but do you have /dev/dsp? and permissions? I think xanim and realplayer both use it as opposed to /dev/audio. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: MS Intellimouse
Colin, I found a little program called imwheel in the freshmeat.net site, downloaded it and installed it. It has been working fine for me ever since, and it does precisely what you are looking for: wheel + third button. Give it a try. Nitebirdz On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone I know is running potato and has a MS Intellimouse (a mouse with two buttons and a wheel). What we'd like to be able to do is have the functionality of both the wheel and an emulated third button. However, we read that the Emulate3Buttons in X doesn't work if ZAxisMapping is turned on. So, currently, we have ZAxisMapping on (so we can get the scrolling) but she has no way of doing the third mouse-button click. What we'd like to be able to do is somehow make Ctrl + Button-1 (or button-1 + button-2) send X a button-3 click. Is there any way to do this, either with XF86Config, xmodmap, the window manager (we are using Enlightenment), or any other method? Thanks. Colin McMillen -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (potato): 1 day, 17 hours, 25 minutes without a reboot... The revolution will be complete when the operating system is perfect. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ftp
What's /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny, /etc/ftpusers say? -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Can't install on ThinkPad 385XD
I am trying to install the version of Debian which came with 'Using Linux Special Edition' by Tackett et al, Que 1999. I have made the resc1440, drv1440, and root floppies. When I boot with the resc1440 floppy in drive a: the usual IBM ThinkPad logo appears, then an initial Linux message - the one telling me to backup the hard drive. Then a boot prompt appears. When I press Enter two sets of Linux files load. Then the IBM ThinkPad logo appears again, and the same initial Linux message, and the same boot prompt, and so on ad infinitum. What do I have to do to get past this initial sequence?
Can someone answer this? (qt1g problem)
Greetings, I have asked this before, but either nobody saw it, or nobody knew, so I am posting this again in the hopes someone will know the answer. Many of the KDE apps rely on a library called qt1g, which dselect claims To not appear available. Checking my system, I find a library called libqt1g which claims in the package description to replace and provide qt1g. Apparently dselect is not able to determine that it should be able to install any program that depends on qt1g due to the fact that services provided by that library are satisfied with libqt1g. Is there a way to convince dpkg that it should install these programs anyway, or would the package(s) have to be modified by the maintainer to satisfy these dependancy problems? Any help would be most appreciated. Regards, Todd
Re: Unidentified subject!
Well, that looks okay, maybe a problem with your PAM setup? On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 11:23:27AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 07:22:57PM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote: What's /etc/hosts.allow in.ftpd: localhost and /etc/hosts.deny, ALL: PARANOID /etc/ftpusers say? root ftp I think I only added the entry in /etc/hosts.allow. Oki -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
MUD Sever.(How do I compile?)
Hi... I have been using Debian for about 5-6 months, and have a fair knowledge about the system. I will have a small peer-to-peer network set up in a day or so, and want to run the Debian box as a DikuMUD Server. I have the source code for the program, but it just says to type make and cross your fingers... From what I can tell, make must be either a Unix compiler or was in the original Linux... Can someone gimme a hand in compiling the code??? If interested Email me... Also check out code available at Http://www.dikumud.com Thanx a lot guys... __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
dip group/dialout group?
Hi, I was just noticing that the groupname for /usr/sbin/pppd is dip. But, as I look in /etc/group, there is no dip group listed, only a dialout group. Is this an oversight? Should I chgrp the /usr/sbin/pppd* stuff to the dialout group? -- David S. Jackson http://www.dsj.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In theory, theory and practice are the same thing. In practice, they are different.-- Bruce Schnier
Re: /dev/ttyS2 port not accessible
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Re: /dev/ttyS2 port not accessible
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Re: /dev/ttyS2 port not accessible
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Re: E commerce stuff for linux?
aphro wrote: i want to know what people reccomend for an e commerce package for linux(free or not) something thats stable, secure, and runs on debian 2.1 :) nate ++ MiniVend and Minimate may be exactly what you are looking for; if you have some skills in database managemant including SQL, perl programming, html scripting, and a lot of cgi knowledge and PHP3 are also VERY helpful. With these skills and about 6 months of learning and intense effort you could master the usage and implementation of a MiniVend e-Commerce center. They are all free and they work as well as advertised--even exceeds in my opinion ALL of the commercial systems available for use with a GNU/Linux system and most of the shopping systems available for other OS. I also reccommend installation of WebMin and the ShopAdmin modules for WebMin as additional tools to help manage the system. The latest Stable release is rock solid but I would avoid the alpha version unless you want to be extremely frustrated. It's difficult to know when you have screwed up something if the software is buggy! I have been working from a point of zero skills in all of the above area except html for about 18 months and now have a completely customized running test site. I expect to go online about the middle of Jan. with our complete retail operation. 130,000 items for sale. These folks also all maintain VERY helpful mailing lists. Good Luck! References: http://www.minivend.com/iri/mvend.html http://www.linuxia.net/minimate/ http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ http://www.shopadmin.de/ -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: Debian Slink/Potato w/SMP
Steve Lamb wrote: Does anyone have an experience with Debian on an SMP machine? Is it stable? How well does it perform? --- As you can see we have no probs with them :-)) -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: /dev/ttyS2 port not accessible
Acctualy if using default kernel for Debian 2.1 (I think 2.0.36) everything works fine. I didn't even start using the port since I need to change it's IRQ to 5 I used setserial and received the message about busy port. Let me add that I don't have any additional serial cards. This port is used for internal modem. B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22.12.99 04:31:00 PM To: Bostjan JERKO/si/[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org@internet Subject:Re: /dev/ttyS2 port not accessible On 22 Dec 1999, Bostjan JERKO wrote: Bostja When using new (compiled) kernel (e.g. 2.2.15) I receive message for port /dev/ttyS2 - port busy (0 and 1 working properlly). Any Bostja ideas what might be the problem ? is that serial port hard coded on whatever device it's on? does the system report the right type, I/O address and IRQ for it? if not, use the setserial program to manually set it.. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:26am up 124 days, 19:16, 2 users, load average: 0.32, 0.28, 0.31
scan large files
Hi, How can I use 'find' together with other shell tools to scan the directory and print the filename if it is over a certain size. Thanks. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
IMAP and disable plain passwds / APOP ?
When I use imap with CRAM-MD5 authentication do I have to recompile the source to disable plain passwords? Has anyone experiance with APOP in imap? Regards, Onno
Re: dip group/dialout group?
David S. Jackson wrote: Hi, I was just noticing that the groupname for /usr/sbin/pppd is dip. But, as I look in /etc/group, there is no dip group listed, only a dialout group. Is this an oversight? Should I chgrp the /usr/sbin/pppd* stuff to the dialout group? You should have a group dip as group number 30. As I understood it, if you don't have the group, you would see the numerical value of gd, so perhaps it's there. I skimmed past it the first time I was looking for it, so it may be worth checking. The dip group is sufficient to allow users to use pon / poff. The permissions are intended that way. -- Regards, Paul
I can't apt-get.. help me.
I installed debian packages using apt-get over the network. I'm running debian 2.0 on i386 machine. A few weeks ago I upgraded kernel upto 2.2.13 and upgraded some packages in potato. After that apt-get causes segmentation-fault. I always get message Electric Fence 2.0.5.., maybe I installed kernel under debugging. So I removed 2.2.13 and reinstalled 2.0.33 So I can't get any packages using apt-get. How can I fix this problem. Anyone knows it? I need help.
logrotate
Where I can find logrotate deb package for slink ? I try to dowload logrotate sources from unstable # apt-get --compile source logrotate but it doesn't compile (some errors in sources *.c) przemol
logrotate
Where I can find logrotate deb package for slink ? I try to dowload logrotate sources from unstable # apt-get --compile source logrotate but it doesn't compile (some errors in sources *.c) przemol
Re: chroot()ing a user's login
Hi Robert, On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 12:04:09PM -0500, Nagilum wrote: I had read some docs which mentioned that on SysV, you can specify a * in the 7th field of the passwd file (thisis from memory, I may be off) and that user's login will then be chroot()ed to his home directory. I was hoping to find a similar functionality in Debian, so I tried the * in the 7th field and that didn't work. So then I grabbed the source for login (shadow package) and grepped the source for chroot. In libmisc/sub.c I found it, along with some commentary: /* * subsystem - change to subsystem root * * A subsystem login is indicated by the presense of a * as * the first character of the login shell. The given home * directory will be used as the root of a new filesystem which * the user is actually logged into. */ So, I tried changing a user's login shell to '*/bin/bash' to no avail. When I attempt to login, I am asked for the username.. and then I am asked for the password twice and booted out. I also tried replacing /bin/login with a re-compiled version from the (slink) source but the same thing happened. The documentation specifies: 1) Once the user has logged in they are chrooted and asked to login via that password file _in the chrooted directory_. 2) The shell must be available in the chrooted env (as well as all needed bianries). So for this to work, you must have a complete working filesystem in each home directory (/home/foo/dev /home/foo/bin /home/foo/usr/bin /home/foo/etc ...). I have a password entry at my system like this: ookhoi $ grep ookhoi /etc/passwd ookhoi:x:1000:1000:Ookhoi:/usr/remote:*/bin/bash Under /usr/remote I have a complete and working filesystem which I use for nfs boots. Now I try to login: ookhoi $ su ookhoi Password: Password: No shell The first password is the password on my system, the second password is the password I use when I do a nfs boot, so the change root works. But for some reason I get the No shell. Can you help me with that please? The password entry at the nfs boot system is: ookhoi $ grep ookhoi /usr/remote/etc/passwd ookhoi:x:1000:101::/home/ookhoi:/bin/bash And this works: expanse:~# chroot /usr/remote/ su - ookhoi ookhoi $ Of course bash is there: ookhoi $ /bin/bash ookhoi $ And is it in the chrooted /etc/shells? Thanx you for your response! Yes, it is: okhoi $ cat /usr/remote/etc/shells # /etc/shells: valid login shells /bin/ash /bin/bash /bin/csh /bin/sh /usr/bin/es /usr/bin/ksh /usr/bin/rc /usr/bin/tcsh /usr/bin/zsh /bin/sash But if not, then a normal login wouldn't work either I think? Ookhoi
Re: Bad points for debian (was: resetting dpkg)
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 02:11:31PM +0100, Egbert Bouwman wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:43:05PM +0100, steve doerr wrote: Is there a way to change dpkg package remove tags? I ran dselect after manually dpkg'ing postgresql and jdk and I somehow got almost everything The debian group tries to remedy this by developing a new package, apt etc, which is not yet finished. For years on end we have to work now with the old interface. But I have never seen a clear, readable, understandable etc story about the use of these packages. Yes, in many texts you see something like: experiment, read the help pages, use the ... keys (they are your friend). In the meantime numerous people, often very sophisticated linux users, have been frustrated by dselect-dpkg. Many turned to another distibution exactly for this reason. well...though you probably don't want to read this but: a) in the manual everything is explained..the problem is that dpkg offers nearly as much actions as nethack does because you can do a lot b) apt is quite usable for daily work: apt-get install packetname fetches the package and all dependencies and installs everything. to browse through the packet tree you can use aptitude so you sholould wait the few month for potato and use apt, IMO there is no real need to hack dselect just to abolish it a few month later... Jan
Re: Bad points for debian (was: resetting dpkg)
Egbert Bouwman wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:43:05PM +0100, steve doerr wrote: Is there a way to change dpkg package remove tags? I ran dselect after manually dpkg'ing postgresql and jdk and I somehow got almost everything Remember that the dependencies will kick in (though jdk postgresql are not dependent on _THAT_ many packages).. You are one of many, myself included, who asked similar questions about resetting dselect or dpkg after they created chaos. We only want to start all over again with the selection process. I have never read a helpful reply. Does nobody know ? Or did we ask the wrong question ? This raises a number of issues.. When do you want to revert? So long as you've not actually installed anythong, control-c bombs out of dselect, without changing the package list. you can use dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections to specifically set the package list. If you want the package-management system itself to keep a track of changes, this is a huge task: how far back do you keep your records? do you track user-requested packages seperately from dependency installations? do you want to be able to revert packages, or just change the installed/not-installed nature? what about distribution upgrades (slink - potato[e]), how big a requirement is the ability to be able to revert (1, 2, .. steps)? I happen to agree, it would be great to be able to easily revert to a situation (say) two updates ago. I see two main difficulties: 1) modifying dpkg to keep data files on the packages installed and removed. This shouldn't be too tricky: you need files: user_selected_install; dependency_install; user_seleced_remove. Each line on the file is date:package:package:package[:package]+ 2) Keeping the previously installed packages (the one that is to be replaced during a package upgrade). The Debian philosophy seems to be to keep the .debs off the workstations (based on the question do you want to delete the downloaded .deb files after an upgrade) - therefor I would assume that debian.org (and the mirrors) would have to retain all .deb files, including those with bugs in them, so that customers can revert This, I think, is what will be killing the revert concept: it requires just TOO MUCH disk space (a full Debian mirror needs something like 20GB just now, so the archiving would need a huge file-system) :( Hope this helps.. -- --==**==-- Ian Stuart - University computing services. - Opinions are funny things: Mine are mine and mine alone http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/
Re: Can someone answer this? (qt1g problem)
I'm pretty sure the packages would have to me modified. To get around it, you'll have to manually install the packages uses dpkg --force-depends. Unfortunately, anytime you upgrade packages, dselect will want to remove those packages because they have unmet dependencies (atleast apt will). This is something that I think we should get on the kde people to fix. It's a minor change. Rob On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Todd Suess wrote: Greetings, I have asked this before, but either nobody saw it, or nobody knew, so I am posting this again in the hopes someone will know the answer. Many of the KDE apps rely on a library called qt1g, which dselect claims To not appear available. Checking my system, I find a library called libqt1g which claims in the package description to replace and provide qt1g. Apparently dselect is not able to determine that it should be able to install any program that depends on qt1g due to the fact that services provided by that library are satisfied with libqt1g. Is there a way to convince dpkg that it should install these programs anyway, or would the package(s) have to be modified by the maintainer to satisfy these dependancy problems? Any help would be most appreciated. Regards, Todd -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1999-00 | Aka Khyron the Backstabber | LI NN N U U X X O ICQ# 2325055| LI N NN U U X | LLL I N N UUU X X O Shackles cannot keep me bound | Those who can, do. forever. I'm outta here. |
Re: dip group/dialout group?
David S. Jackson writes: I was just noticing that the groupname for /usr/sbin/pppd is dip. But, as I look in /etc/group, there is no dip group listed, only a dialout group. Is this an oversight? That or a bug. What are you running? Should I chgrp the /usr/sbin/pppd* stuff to the dialout group? No. Keeping the groups seperate allows the administrator to independently control who can start ppp and who has access to serial ports. The names are lousy, though. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Kernel Panics
Just a quick note, I'm starting to wonder about my hardware. For the last few months (since I reloaded the system back to running slink in fact), I have been receiving errors similar to the following message :- Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Oops: Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: CPU:0 Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: EIP:0010:[con_write+14/40] Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282 Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: eax: c018e670 ebx: c19cc000 ecx: c1515f3b edx: 0806596d Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: esi: c19cc000 edi: 004f ebp: c1515eec esp: c1515ec0 Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Process iptraf (pid: 2855, process nr: 61, stackpage=c1515000) Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Stack: 004f c19cc000 c0193e33 c19cc000 c1515eec 004f 004f Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel:080658f8 c19cc000 c1514000 3b345b1b 1b483535 313b305b 6d313b30 36335b1b Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel:345b1b6d 1b386d34 4733365b 5b1b3239 313b3432 5b1b4834 30313b30 335b1b6d Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Call Trace: [opost_block+343/356] [write_chan+339/564] [tty_write+442/524] [write_chan+0/564] [sys_write+211/264] [system_call+52/56] Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Code: ff 74 24 18 53 e8 28 f4 ff ff 89 c6 53 e8 f0 00 00 00 89 f0 Usually, after this happens I loose total control of the system, and the only way to get the system back under control is to do a total reboot of the system. The other fun ones are things that start as :- unable to handle kernel paging request Then the system just dies. I'm wondering if my hardware is faulty? Does anyone have any idea on what might be at fault here? The System has :- - AMD K6/2-233 - Jetway JFE-530TX Motherboard - Adaptec 1542CF SCSI Card - 2xQuantum Empire 1080S (one's with the older firmware, it's baaad!) - 1xSeagate HDD (Not sure of model, it's a full height 5.25 1.4Gig SCSI) - 32Megabytes of RAM - Kingston Network Card (I think it's the KFE-120TX, but can't remember off the top of my head, it's a 10/100 PCI card...) I have replaced the RAM once already, so I know that is not faulty (the old RAM is running perfectly in my other system). I have also replaced the CPU, that didn't help much. I am running potato now (I upgraded it all the way, just in case I had old packages that hated my system or something grin). The only things I'm left with thinking is faulty is the Motherboard, or SCSI card. I have a spare CPU around the place, but I don't have spare motherboard or SCSI card here at the moment (grin). I plan on making another machine, but that's not going to be for a little while yet. Regards, Peter Ludwig
Re: chroot()ing a user's login
Hi Robert, And this works: expanse:~# chroot /usr/remote/ su - ookhoi ookhoi $ Of course bash is there: ookhoi $ /bin/bash ookhoi $ And is it in the chrooted /etc/shells? Thanx you for your response! Yes, it is: okhoi $ cat /usr/remote/etc/shells # /etc/shells: valid login shells /bin/ash /bin/bash /bin/csh /bin/sh /usr/bin/es /usr/bin/ksh /usr/bin/rc /usr/bin/tcsh /usr/bin/zsh /bin/sash But if not, then a normal login wouldn't work either I think? I will try to reproduce it at home It seems to be quite useful for ISP setups... In the meantime, did you try giving chroot /usr/remote /bin/bash as your login shell? Of course enter it into /etc/shells as well. I did not try it yet, but it could even work. You mean in /usr/remote/etc/passwd ? That wil not work, because it then can't chroot to /usr/remote In /etc/passwd it is not nescessary because the chroot works already. If I do a login in stead of a su, I see the motd from /etc/motd at the first login, and the /usr/remote/motd at the second login (you have to type in your password twice for a chroot login). Ookhoi
/dev/ttyS2 port not accessible
When using new (compiled) kernel (e.g. 2.2.15) I receive message for port /dev/ttyS2 - port busy (0 and 1 working properlly). Any ideas what might be the problem ? B.
Re: netdate in potato??
Subject: Re: netdate in potato?? Date: Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 07:28:45AM -0500 In reply to:Brian Servis Quoting Brian Servis([EMAIL PROTECTED]): | | dpkg -S netdate | | netstd: /usr/man/man8/netdate.8.gz | netstd: /usr/sbin/netdate | | | Um, in *potato* netstd is an empty package(except for docs in | /usr/share/doc) and netdate is no longer available. | | Similiar functionality is obtained from ntpdate in the ntpdate package. | Woops, I was on Slink when I read, and answered that, wasn't I. :-( -- Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... ___
apt-move
I can't get apt-move to co-operate. elm:# apt-move move Creating Lists... Error: makelist: No master ls file exists! It seems to want ls-lR and I think it looks in the /debian/.apt-move directory, but I can't get it right. My debian mirror is in /debian. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445E Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Packages.gz
How do I generate a Packages.gz file for a local distribution directory? TIA, Jon
Re: E commerce stuff for linux?
jfoste ++ jfoste MiniVend and Minimate may be exactly what you are looking for; if you jfoste have some skills in database managemant including SQL, perl programming, jfoste html scripting, and a lot of cgi knowledge and PHP3 are also VERY jfoste helpful. With these skills and about 6 months of learning and intense I looked at minivend/minimate a few months back, and downloaded it again last night to see if i can get it working..i need to get a small ecommerce site up(only 4 products changing on a weekly basis) i hope i can figure it out and get it going :) thanks for the info..didnt know webmin had modules for minivend that will help a lot im sure! nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:06am up 125 days, 18:57, 4 users, load average: 1.85, 1.70, 1.71
Re: /dev/ttyS2 port not accessible
do you have a soundcard? many soundcards (esp soundblaster) use irq5, are you sure there are no conflicts with anything on that serial port? nate On 23 Dec 1999, Bostjan JERKO wrote: Bostja Acctualy if using default kernel for Debian 2.1 (I think 2.0.36) everything works fine. Bostja I didn't even start using the port since I need to change it's IRQ to 5 I used setserial and Bostja received the message about busy port. Bostja Let me add that I don't have any additional serial cards. This port is used for internal modem. Bostja Bostja B. Bostja Bostja Bostja Bostja Bostja Bostja [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22.12.99 04:31:00 PM Bostja To: Bostjan JERKO/si/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bostja cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org@internet Bostja Subject:Re: /dev/ttyS2 port not accessible Bostja Bostja On 22 Dec 1999, Bostjan JERKO wrote: Bostja Bostja Bostja When using new (compiled) kernel (e.g. 2.2.15) I receive message for port /dev/ttyS2 - port busy (0 and 1 working properlly). Any Bostja Bostja ideas what might be the problem ? Bostja Bostja is that serial port hard coded on whatever device it's on? does the Bostja system report the right type, I/O address and IRQ for it? if not, use the Bostja setserial program to manually set it.. Bostja Bostja nate Bostja Bostja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- BostjaVice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Bostja Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ BostjaEverett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Bostja Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Bostja Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ Bostja -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Bostja 7:26am up 124 days, 19:16, 2 users, load average: 0.32, 0.28, 0.31 Bostja Bostja Bostja Bostja Bostja -- Bostja Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Bostja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:06am up 125 days, 18:57, 4 users, load average: 1.85, 1.70, 1.71
Re: Help me POP 3
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Paul J. Keenan wrote: paul.k I accept that sendmail is not used for reading mail, but I'm fairly sure paul.k my sendmail receives mail as well as sends it. From /var/log/mail.log : paul.k paul.k Dec 22 01:25:45 funkiest sendmail[4378]: BAA04378: from=gnumeric paul.k [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1824, class=-30, pri=85824, nrcpts=1, paul.k msgid=1aOal2.0.oI2.-PTNu@lists.redhat.com, proto=SMTP, paul.k relay=finch-punt-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.36] i guess i should of been more specific :) sendmail sends mail but also receieves mail from other SMTP servers..and from email clients, but email clients reading mail use POP3/IMAP/POP2..there is no way to login to a SMTP server and get mail. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:06am up 125 days, 18:57, 4 users, load average: 1.85, 1.70, 1.71
Re: Packages.gz
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 09:50:54AM -0500, Jonathan D . Proulx wrote: How do I generate a Packages.gz file for a local distribution directory? dpkg-scanpackages which is from the dpkg-dev package. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: Kernel Panics
Does it always happen when you run iptraf? it could be a network driver problem or a network card hardware problem. a good way to test the board/cpu/hdd and i/o subsystems that i have found is running 10x copies of [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the same time for 24-48 hours, if the machine lasts 24 hours without a hitch then the problem is something else. also make sure the kernel your using was compiled with gcc 2.7.2.3 and not anything else(it shows you in the bootup messages, use 'dmesg' to see the last couple hundred kernel messages) and also make sure your using a stable well tested kernel, in my experience the 2.0.36 kernel is rock solid, and 2.2.10 is quite solid as well. nate On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Peter Ludwig wrote: khan Just a quick note, I'm starting to wonder about my hardware. For the last khan few months (since I reloaded the system back to running slink in fact), I khan have been receiving errors similar to the following message :- khan khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Oops: khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: CPU:0 khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: EIP:0010:[con_write+14/40] khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282 khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: eax: c018e670 ebx: c19cc000 ecx: khan c1515f3b khan edx: 0806596d khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: esi: c19cc000 edi: 004f ebp: khan c1515eec khan esp: c1515ec0 khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Process iptraf (pid: 2855, process nr: khan 61, stackpage=c1515000) khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Stack: 004f c19cc000 c0193e33 khan c19cc000 c1515eec 004f 004f khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel:080658f8 c19cc000 c1514000 khan 3b345b1b 1b483535 313b305b 6d313b30 36335b1b khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel:345b1b6d 1b386d34 4733365b khan 5b1b3239 313b3432 5b1b4834 30313b30 335b1b6d khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Call Trace: [opost_block+343/356] khan [write_chan+339/564] [tty_write+442/524] [write_chan+0/564] khan [sys_write+211/264] [system_call+52/56] khan Dec 24 00:09:31 midnight kernel: Code: ff 74 24 18 53 e8 28 f4 ff ff 89 c6 khan 53 e8 f0 00 00 00 89 f0 khan khan Usually, after this happens I loose total control of the system, and the khan only way to get the system back under control is to do a total reboot of khan the system. khan khan The other fun ones are things that start as :- khan unable to handle kernel paging request khan khan Then the system just dies. I'm wondering if my hardware is faulty? khan khan Does anyone have any idea on what might be at fault here? khan khan The System has :- khan - AMD K6/2-233 khan - Jetway JFE-530TX Motherboard khan - Adaptec 1542CF SCSI Card khan - 2xQuantum Empire 1080S (one's with the older firmware, it's baaad!) khan - 1xSeagate HDD (Not sure of model, it's a full height 5.25 1.4Gig SCSI) khan - 32Megabytes of RAM khan - Kingston Network Card (I think it's the KFE-120TX, but can't remember khan off the top of my head, it's a 10/100 PCI card...) khan khan I have replaced the RAM once already, so I know that is not faulty (the khan old RAM is running perfectly in my other system). khan khan I have also replaced the CPU, that didn't help much. khan khan I am running potato now (I upgraded it all the way, just in case I had old khan packages that hated my system or something grin). khan khan The only things I'm left with thinking is faulty is the Motherboard, or khan SCSI card. I have a spare CPU around the place, but I don't have spare khan motherboard or SCSI card here at the moment (grin). I plan on making khan another machine, but that's not going to be for a little while yet. khan khan Regards, khan Peter Ludwig khan khan khan khan -- khan Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:06am up 125 days, 18:57, 4 users, load average: 1.85, 1.70, 1.71
Re: chroot()ing a user's login
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Ookhoi wrote: I will try to reproduce it at home It seems to be quite useful for ISP setups... In the meantime, did you try giving chroot /usr/remote /bin/bash as your login shell? Of course enter it into /etc/shells as well. I did not try it yet, but it could even work. You mean in /usr/remote/etc/passwd ? That wil not work, because it then can't chroot to /usr/remote In /etc/passwd it is not nescessary because the chroot works already. If I do a login in stead of a su, I see the motd from /etc/motd at the first login, and the /usr/remote/motd at the second login (you have to type in your password twice for a chroot login). I meant in /etc/passwd. Who knows... Murphy is always lurking around. Robert Varga
Re: MUD Sever.(How do I compile?)
Jack Sonnie said: I have the source code for the program, but it just says to type make and cross your fingers... I hate (lack of) documentation like that... From what I can tell, make must be either a Unix compiler or was in the original Linux... Uh... No. Make coordinates the actions of compilers so that (at least in theory) you don't have to type in a series of complex command lines by hand every time you want to build your code. It also checks datestamps so that only code which has been changed since the last compile gets recompiled (which can save a LOT of time!). If you don't have make installed, you're not going to be able to build anyone's source except for trivial Hello, world!-type stuff. You'll also need the actual compiler(s) too, of course - which usually means gcc. Install the make package and check out the included documentation for more info. -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: Useless (broken?) IDE HD
Don't forget to refrigerate it in case it is a thermal issue...
-Bob
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From: aphro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Guilherme Soares Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Useless (broken?) IDE HD
Let the drive sit, for a few days, maybe a week and write down all you
want to recover off of it ..
(hard to believe but it works!)
then power it up, and see if it works, one of my servers suffered a root
drive failure(after 3 years! on a 720MB ide drive..) the system ran
despite the hdd failure(no new processes would spawn) for about 2 weeks
then it went dead. it sat there powered down for another 2 weeks, and we
powered it up and BANG it booted. i then powered it off again to change
drives, and then i needed something off of it and tried to power it up
agian and it was a no go.
write down what you want off that drive so you can copy it as quickly as
you can, i reccomend putting that drive on a second controler of another
system so it doesnt have to go through the pains of booting a kernel and
loading services. or boot off a rescue disk. copy everything you need as
fast as you can ..and hopefully you get it. don't try to copy the whole
disk it would probably put too mcuh stress on the drive and it would die
again.
of course this may not work, but there is a good chance it will, let the
drive rest some first though
nate
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Guilherme Soares Zahn wrote:
gzahn Hi there,
gzahn
gzahn I know it's somehow OT, but you were the only guys I thought
could
gzahn give me some ideas...
gzahn
gzahn well... at home I've got a VA34324A Samsung HD (IDE, 4.3Gb) that
gzahn decided to stop working this weekend. As I'm completely out of money
for
gzahn at least 2 months and short of backups for a big chunk of the data it
gzahn contains, I'd like to see if there's any way to put it back to
service,
gzahn even if just for a short time. Here's what happens now that it's
gzahn installed as 2nd master in my work PC:
gzahn
gzahn 1) When I turn on the computer, BIOS recognizes OK it and it passes
all
gzahn tests fine;
gzahn
gzahn 2) Linux boots, kernel recognizes hdc: SAMSUNG VA34324A, 4124MB
w/478kB
gzahn Cache, CHS=14896/9/63, UDMA (i.e.: fine);
gzahn
gzahn 3) fdisk sees all four partitions OK and warns of no problems;
gzahn
gzahn 4) When I try to mount any of the partitions, I get a lot of equal
gzahn messages:
gzahn
gzahn hdc: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
Error
gzahn }
gzahn hdc: read_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
gzahn ide1: reset: success
gzahn
gzahn The FAT32 partition mount in the end, still gives me more error
messages
gzahn but I can at least browse through it and retrieve some files) but the
gzahn ext2 won't mount (ext2 filesystem panic, of course, because of the
read
gzahn errors).
gzahn
gzahn When I boot Win98 (still w/ the broken HD as 2nd master), win98's
fdisk
gzahn won't even notice there's a 2nd HD and Partition Resizer win warn of
an
gzahn error (something like ¨partition 1 out of boundaries¨) and won't
gzahn recognize anything (not even the 1st HD)...
gzahn
gzahn Now, is there any chance that it's not a hardware fault? If so, how
gzahn could I try to make it work? I'm accepting mostly every possible
idea,
gzahn no matter how risky or absurd it may seem, as the worst that could
gzahn happen as losing the HD I can't use now!
gzahn
gzahn TIA,
gzahn
gzahn Guilherme Zahn
gzahn
gzahn PS: Please c/c myself on the replies, OK? Due to the heavy traffic on
gzahn the list I had to sign it through another e-mail address, and it's
been
gzahn hard to check it lately!
gzahn
gzahn
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Re: questions about generic Ethernet drivers, DHCP
Salman Ahmed wrote: I finally got a second box to install Linux on today. Unfortunately its not the Compaq Deskpro EN I had hoped for. Its an older Digital 5000 PC with the following specs: PII 233 Adaptec AHA-2940 UW SCSI Adapter 2 Seagate 2Gb SCSI HDs Matrox Mystique video card (2Mb) Digital Semiconductor EB143 based 10/100 evaluation ethernet card (1) What Ethernet driver should I select for this NIC ? I got the details of the HW from Windows NT which the machine already has on it. Not sure if its a PCI or ISA NIC. Has anyone heard of this NIC ? Dunno. Sorry. (2) How do I setup the system to use DHCP once the ethernet card is setup properly ? I never setup a machine to use DHCP but I am assuming that it isn't too tricky. Just install the dhcpcd package and in your /etc/init.d/network put in a line to start up this daemon with eth0 as an argument. I would like to get the machine up and running with slink, and then plan to upgrade it to potato and kernel 2.2.13 once networking is configured properly. Thanks for any info. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dialout group
Hi, I've added myself to the dialout group, but I still get a permission denied when I try to run /usr/bin/pon (which works fine when I'm root, btw). What am I forgetting? I want to be able to run this as a user. Also, could someone explain why /usr/sbin/pppd is in the dip group and not the dialout group? Basically, I'm trying to use pon with TkDesk, but first I need to make sure it works just with plain old userland me. :-) TIA! -- David S. Jackson http://www.dsj.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Remember that in order to recover as an artist, you must be willing to be a bad artist. Give yourself permission to be a beginner. --Julia Cameron
Re: Help me POP 3
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, aphro wrote: : On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Paul J. Keenan wrote: : : paul.k I accept that sendmail is not used for reading mail, but I'm fairly sure : paul.k my sendmail receives mail as well as sends it. From /var/log/mail.log : : paul.k : paul.k Dec 22 01:25:45 funkiest sendmail[4378]: BAA04378: from=gnumeric : paul.k [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1824, class=-30, pri=85824, nrcpts=1, : paul.k msgid=1aOal2.0.oI2.-PTNu@lists.redhat.com, proto=SMTP, : paul.k relay=finch-punt-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.36] : : i guess i should of been more specific :) sendmail sends mail but also : receieves mail from other SMTP servers..and from email clients, but email : clients reading mail use POP3/IMAP/POP2..there is no way to login to a : SMTP server and get mail. I'm tempted to point out that the ETRN command does indeed allow you to get mail via SMTP ... but you still need to deliver it somewhere and then use a tool to read it. POP is probably the most popular method for reading mail from a non-local mailbox. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Bad points for debian (was: resetting dpkg)
On 12/23/99, Egbert Bouwman addressed Bad points for debian (was: resetting dpkg): In the dselect man page (dd 29th november 1995) in slink you can read: The dselect package selection interface is confusing or even alarming to the new user. The debian group tries to remedy this by developing a new package, apt etc, which is not yet finished. For years on end we have to work now with the old interface. But I have never seen a clear, readable, understandable etc story about the use of these packages. Yes, in many texts you see something like: experiment, read the help pages, use the ... keys (they are your friend). In the meantime numerous people, often very sophisticated linux users, have been frustrated by dselect-dpkg. Many turned to another distibution exactly for this reason. I experienced the same frustration for a while. What ended it was a *careful* reading of the internal dselect help. This, combined with my experience produced a careful respect for all the things that dselect is showing me and is about to do at any given moment. For example, when you select a package and dselect enters the conflict resolution screen, and there are 50 or so packages there, some of which you recognize as being somewhat important for you, **now** is the time to go back. If you hit Enter, the status of most of those packages will be different than when you began. The keys you can use to Quit, Exit, Overwrite, according to the help screen, are: (note capitals!) Return Confirm, quit (check dependencies) Q Confirm, quit (override dep.s) X, Esc eXit, abandoning any changes made R Revert to state before this list U set all to sUggested state D set all to Directly requested state So the right thing to do is R - revert to state before this list. If you accept the list as-is, you can almost guarantee you won't be able to get that same package listing again. Note that the opposite of Return is Q, and apparently U and D are opposites too, analogous to Return and Q. X looks similar to R, but some experimentation is in order to confirm that -- it may quit package selection altogether. So experiment carefully, have patience, and respect for the fact that there are thousands of packages managed by dselect, which manages their real-time status on an individual basis, accounting for a complex inter-dependency scheme. Whatever you change and accept (even unknowingly) is *real*, and is immediately reflected in the package status database. You may be able to create a kind of self-protection error recovery by using dpkg --get-selections somefile before running dselect. Then if you want to revert from your dselect-ion, run dpkg --set-selections somefile afterwards. YMMV. Happy Linuxing, Jesse
Re: logrotate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where I can find logrotate deb package for slink ? I try to dowload logrotate sources from unstable # apt-get --compile source logrotate but it doesn't compile (some errors in sources *.c) przemol -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I searched using http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages, and it appears that logrotate lives only in unstable. Potato uses glibc2.1 instead of slink's glibc2.0 If logrotate uses glibc2.1 features, this may explain your compile errors. It would also prevent you from using the potato .deb package, since it will be linked to the new libc. Your only chance is to find someone who has back-ported it to slink, or to upgrade to potato. -- Regards, Paul
Re: Dialout group
David S. Jackson wrote: Hi, I've added myself to the dialout group, but I still get a permission denied when I try to run /usr/bin/pon (which works fine when I'm root, btw). What am I forgetting? I want to be able to run this as a user. Also, could someone explain why /usr/sbin/pppd is in the dip group and not the dialout group? Basically, I'm trying to use pon with TkDesk, but first I need to make sure it works just with plain old userland me. :-) TIA! -- David S. Jackson http://www.dsj.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Remember that in order to recover as an artist, you must be willing to be a bad artist. Give yourself permission to be a beginner. --Julia Cameron -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null David You've answered your own question. As pppd is owned by the group dip and not dialout, you need to add your non-root self to the right group ie dip, not dialout. Jonathan.
Re: Dialout group
David S. Jackson wrote: Hi, I've added myself to the dialout group, but I still get a permission denied when I try to run /usr/bin/pon (which works fine when I'm root, btw). What am I forgetting? I want to be able to run this as a user. Also, could someone explain why /usr/sbin/pppd is in the dip group and not the dialout group? Basically, I'm trying to use pon with TkDesk, but first I need to make sure it works just with plain old userland me. :-) TIA! You need to add yourself to the dip group, not the dialout group. The dip group is for those who dialout using pon / pppd. The dialout group is for those who need full access to the raw serial port. And yes, the group naming convention certainly does suck. How it works : If you are in group dip, you have read and execute permission to the /usr/sbin/pppd script, so you can run it. Since the program is setuid-root, it runs with root's priviledges. This allows it to grap the serial port, at which point it drops the priviledges. HTH. -- Regards, Paul
aha1542 kernel panics
I have been trying to solve this problem without success for about a year now. My hardware is: - Dell NetPlex 486SX/25 - 32MB RAM - AHA1542C SCSI Controller - 3COM 509B Ethernet Controller - 2-port 16550A Serial Card - 3 x SCSI Hard Drives External - 1 x SCSI Jaz Drive External - 1 x SCSI Sony DDS-3 DAT Drive External My software is: - Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 (slink) - Glibc 2.1 added from potato - Linux 2.2.11 kernel My problem is: After the system has been up for a random length of time (usually about a week or so) it will crash in the middle of the night during a full backup to the DAT drive using cpio. The machine hangs in either an infinite loop or a kernel panic. I originally was running Debian 2.1 with a 2.0.36 kernel, and I would see the following scrolling endlessly off the screen after a crash: Sending SCSI DID_RESET... Sending SCSI DID_RESET... Sending SCSI DID_RESET... Sending SCSI DID_RESET... Sending SCSI DID_RESET... other scsi messages, etc... Since installing the 2.2 kernel and associated upgraded packages as detailed in the errata for slink, the crashes *seem* to occur less often, but this morning I saw: aha1542_out failed... aha1542_out failed... failed to reset target... ... Kernel panic: unable to find empty mailbox for aha1542... and the system was locked up. Since upgrading to the 2.2 kernel, I also notice periodic messages in the syslog (about one per day) like this: aha1542.c: interrupt received but no mail The system will run perfectly for a week or so, doing this same backup routine every night, and then it will just pull this trick on some random night. I have tried: - disconnecting all devices except the tape drive hard drives - installing the highest quality cables I can find for the external devices (this machine currently has about $400 US worth of Granite Digital cables hanging off of it). - installing a Granite Digital active terminator on the end of the SCSI chain - verifying that there are no interrupt or IO port confilicts both in the device jumper configurations and from the /proc filesystem I am completely at my wits end with this. I have searched DejaNews repeatedly for any discussions of kernel panics and crashes with Adaptec cards, Linux, SCSI in general, etc., and all I can find is one thread from about a year ago mentioning the same sorts of problems but no solution. Is this a problem that anyone else has ever had with Linux and an AHA1542C in particular or SCSI in general? Can anyone recommend which part of the setup I should change or eliminate? Is it a bad card? Are Adaptec cards bad in general? Is the aha1542 scsi driver problematic? Is Linux SCSI in general problematic? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Date's and info...
Hi, I was just wondering if a date had been set for the release of potato being stable yet? If so, what is it? Also, I was wondering what kernel version it would be shipping with. If 2.4 is out by then, is it gonna be that? Thanks for your time, Bye!
Re: shutdown
Have a look at using sudo, to execute any commands you want as root. Speaking of sudo, is there a menu/X/KDE driven way of managing the sudoers file? I'm not having much luck with adding things in there manually and I'd rather have something slightly more automated anyway. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARD582
dialout group
I guess I could just use sudo. After trying that, it seems to be easier than getting all the permissions correct for the dialout group. For example, the /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/* files are gid dip. That doesn't seem to jive very well with the dialout group. Anyway, TkDesk seems to be fine with using sudo in .tkdesk/AppBar instead of the usual dsk_dial and up_cmd /usr/bin/pon /usr/bin/poff. So now I just click on the phone icon and it toggles the state (up|down) of the pppd daemon. Kinda cool. Can anyone think of any problems with running sudo instead of pon/poff? Isn't it safer to use the sudo setup instead of the dialout group? -- David S. Jackson http://www.dsj.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Remember that in order to recover as an artist, you must be willing to be a bad artist. Give yourself permission to be a beginner. --Julia Cameron
Re: Can someone answer this? (qt1g problem)
Many of the KDE apps rely on a library called qt1g, which dselect claims To not appear available. Checking my system, I find a library called libqt1g which claims in the package description to replace and provide qt1g. Is there a way to convince dpkg that it should install these programs anyway, or would the package(s) have to be modified by the maintainer to satisfy these dependancy problems? I've been wondering the exact same thing. When I install something through apt-get that needs qt1g or compile a program that needs it, it won't go through because I have libqt1g. Would it be possible to setup a link somewhere to take care of this? -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARD582
I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
Hi, I just thought of something. I thought the whole reason why KDE wasn't included in the Debian download trees because of the licensing issues with QT. If that's the case, then why is QT included in the download tree?!? If QT is OK to put in there then what's the point of saying KDE can't be there? -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARD582
Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
*- On 23 Dec, Bart Szyszka wrote about I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!? Hi, I just thought of something. I thought the whole reason why KDE wasn't included in the Debian download trees because of the licensing issues with QT. If that's the case, then why is QT included in the download tree?!? If QT is OK to put in there then what's the point of saying KDE can't be there? QT v1 is included in the non-free section. The problem is that KDE is supposed to be under the GPL but is violating the GPL by linking to QT which is non-free. So Debian and others decided not to include KDE until they either fixed the licensing issues or QT became free. QT v2 is under less restrictive license and thus once KDE is built with the new QT then it will go in main. This is all just my rough interpetation. See http://www.debian.org/News/1998/19981008 for all the details. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 12:26:43PM -0500, Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just thought of something. I thought the whole reason why KDE wasn't included in the Debian download trees because of the licensing issues with QT. If that's the case, then why is QT included in the download tree?!? If QT is OK to put in there then what's the point of saying KDE can't be there? QT is DFSG free, but it is not GPL. The QT license and GPL are not compatible, but the KDE people have mixed GPL and QT licensed code. It is illegal to redistribute this mixed code, and Debian will not do it. The KDE guys shouldn't either, but they don't seem to care. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] All hail the Dollar, King of the Earth. pgppyNZ9npBB1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just thought of something. I thought the whole reason why KDE wasn't included in the Debian download trees because of the licensing issues with QT. If that's the case, then why is QT included in the download tree?!? If QT is OK to put in there then what's the point of saying KDE can't be there? I believe that Troll Tech has changed their licensing terms since SPI decided not to icnlude KDE in 2.1. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net
Re: aha1542 kernel panics
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... [...] My hardware is: - Dell NetPlex 486SX/25 - 32MB RAM - AHA1542C SCSI Controller - 3COM 509B Ethernet Controller - 2-port 16550A Serial Card - 3 x SCSI Hard Drives External - 1 x SCSI Jaz Drive External - 1 x SCSI Sony DDS-3 DAT Drive External My software is: - Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 (slink) - Glibc 2.1 added from potato - Linux 2.2.11 kernel [...] After the system has been up for a random length of time (usually about a week or so) it will crash in the middle of the night during a full backup to the DAT drive using cpio. The machine hangs in either an infinite loop or a kernel panic. I originally was running Debian 2.1 with a 2.0.36 kernel, and I would see the following scrolling endlessly off the screen after a crash: Sending SCSI DID_RESET... Sending SCSI DID_RESET... Sending SCSI DID_RESET... Sending SCSI DID_RESET... Sending SCSI DID_RESET... other scsi messages, etc... Since installing the 2.2 kernel and associated upgraded packages as detailed in the errata for slink, the crashes *seem* to occur less often, but this morning I saw: aha1542_out failed... aha1542_out failed... failed to reset target... ... Kernel panic: unable to find empty mailbox for aha1542... and the system was locked up. Since upgrading to the 2.2 kernel, I also notice periodic messages in the syslog (about one per day) like this: aha1542.c: interrupt received but no mail The system will run perfectly for a week or so, doing this same backup routine every night, and then it will just pull this trick on some random night. I have tried: - disconnecting all devices except the tape drive hard drives - installing the highest quality cables I can find for the external devices (this machine currently has about $400 US worth of Granite Digital cables hanging off of it). - installing a Granite Digital active terminator on the end of the SCSI chain - verifying that there are no interrupt or IO port confilicts both in the device jumper configurations and from the /proc filesystem Tried a different (newer) kernel? IIRC there have been changes to the aha1542 driver since 2.2.11 - current is 2.2.13. I am completely at my wits end with this. I have searched DejaNews repeatedly for any discussions of kernel panics and crashes with Adaptec cards, Linux, SCSI in general, etc., and all I can find is one thread from about a year ago mentioning the same sorts of problems but no solution. Is this a problem that anyone else has ever had with Linux and an AHA1542C in particular or SCSI in general? Can anyone recommend which part of the setup I should change or eliminate? Is it a bad card? It's a possibility. Are Adaptec cards bad in general? Not at all - they're considered to be among the best. Is the aha1542 scsi driver problematic? It's a possibility. Try a newer kernel. I have a different revision 1542 (I think its a 1542CF) with a small HD and a CD-ROM drive hanging off it, and have no problems. Is Linux SCSI in general problematic? Not in my experience. I have 3 computers with running Linux and SCSI, and none of them have this problem. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Re: dialout group
David S. Jackson writes:
I guess I could just use sudo. After trying that, it seems to be easier
than getting all the permissions correct for the dialout group.
The dialout group has little to do with ppp. When the device name comes
from a privileged source (as it should) pppd opens it as root.
For example, the /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/* files are gid dip.
That doesn't seem to jive very well with the dialout group.
It jives very well: it lets the administrator control ppp access and serial
port access independently.
Can anyone think of any problems with running sudo instead of pon/poff?
It isn't necessary.
Isn't it safer to use the sudo setup instead of the dialout group?
Forget dialout. Put your users in dip.
'pon' is just '/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider}' and makes pppd source
its options from /etc/ppp/peers/provider, a privileged source. This is
the system recommended by the upstream ppp mainitainers, and it is a good
one. 'poff' is more complicated, but it boils down to 'killall pppd'.
If you must something to click on, here's a little perl-tk dohicky:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# pppon by John Hasler 1999. You may treat this program as if
# it were in the public domain.
use Tk;
use strict;
my $main = new MainWindow;
my $filename = $main-Entry(-width = 20);
$filename-pack;
$main-Button(-text = 'Start Connection',
-command = sub{pon($filename)}
)-pack;
$main-Button(-text = 'Stop Connection',
-command = sub{poff($filename)}
)-pack;
$main-Button(-text = 'Help',
-command = sub{help()}
)-pack;
MainLoop;
sub pon {
my ($file) = @_;
my $file_val = $file-get;
system pon $file_val;
}
sub poff {
my ($file) = @_;
my $file_val = $file-get;
system poff $file_val;
}
sub help {
my $top = $main-Toplevel(-title= 'Pppon Help');
$top-Label(-text = 'Leave the entry field blank for the default
provider connection. Enter the provider
name to connect to a specific provider.
Start Connection runs the command pon
and Stop Connection runs the command
poff, passing the contents of the entry
field to the command. See the man pages
for pon and poff for details.')-pack;
}
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
QT v1 is included in the non-free section. The problem is that KDE is supposed to be under the GPL but is violating the GPL by linking to QT which is non-free. So Debian and others decided not to include KDE until they either fixed the licensing issues or QT became free. QT v2 is under less restrictive license and thus once KDE is built with the new QT then it will go in main. This is all just my rough interpetation. See this I don't understand. If they're not including KDE because it has a non-free program as a dependency, then what about Licq? In the stable tree, it depends on qt1g: http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/net/licq.html http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/libs/qt1g.html -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARD582
Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
*- On 23 Dec, Bart Szyszka wrote about Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!? QT v1 is included in the non-free section. The problem is that KDE is supposed to be under the GPL but is violating the GPL by linking to QT which is non-free. So Debian and others decided not to include KDE until they either fixed the licensing issues or QT became free. QT v2 is under less restrictive license and thus once KDE is built with the new QT then it will go in main. This is all just my rough interpetation. See this I don't understand. If they're not including KDE because it has a non-free program as a dependency, then what about Licq? In the stable tree, it depends on qt1g: http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/net/licq.html http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/libs/qt1g.html Licq is in the contrib tree since itself is free but depends on a non-free package. The licq authors have written an exception into their license for use with Qt. This type of exception is allowed under the GPL. The KDE folks had/have no exception and thus were/are violating the GPL. This is one of the solutions that was mentioned in the Debian page in regards to the KDE issues. Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
poweroff
Hello! Why is it that when I use the poweroff command that my machine only halts and does not turn off. I know that I can poweroff my machine when shutting down from Windows. Is there something I have to set? Do I need some power management daemon running? Does the kernel have to be compiled differently? (I am using potato right now.) Cheers! Richard.. - Richard DansereauICQ: 1604133 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://pobox.com/~rdanse Electrical and Computer Engineering - The University of Manitoba - Canada The Rules Have Changed...Get Paid to Surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=fin503 -
Re: poweroff
Richard Dansereau said: Does the kernel have to be compiled differently? Yep. You need to compile your kernel with APM support. -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: poweroff
Richard Dansereau said: Does the kernel have to be compiled differently? Yep. You need to compile your kernel with APM support. Any reason why the kernel does not have APM support automatically compiled in? You would think it could be made smart enough to have it in all of the time.. even if your machine does not have APM. Richard.. - Richard DansereauICQ: 1604133 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://pobox.com/~rdanse Electrical and Computer Engineering - The University of Manitoba - Canada The Rules Have Changed...Get Paid to Surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=fin503 -
pon problems with Potato
I've just converted to potato. When I try to bring up ppp with pon I get: Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]: CONNECT Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]: -- got it Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]: send (\d) Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Serial connection established. Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS0 Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Connection terminated. Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Exit. Any suggestions?
Re: pon problems with Potato
I got that recently when I reinstalled potato, I cured it by using ATF as my init string in pppconfig. Once I did that I never got the error again. Regards, Todd At 11:38 AM 12/23/99 -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote: I've just converted to potato. When I try to bring up ppp with pon I get: Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]: CONNECT Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]: -- got it Dec 23 11:16:13 Spock chat[146]: send (\d) Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Serial connection established. Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 23 11:16:14 Spock pppd[145]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS0 Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Connection terminated. Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Dec 23 11:16:45 Spock pppd[145]: Exit. Any suggestions? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: poweroff
Richard Dansereau said: Any reason why the kernel does not have APM support automatically compiled in? You would think it could be made smart enough to have it in all of the time.. even if your machine does not have APM. If it's compiled with APM support, it will always be there... (It's not available as a module.) The reason the default kernels don't include APM support is that there are a lot of not-fully-compliant BIOSes floating around. A lot of the APM functions have notes in their help text stating that Acme Model 13 systems won't like having them enabled. Even the simple poweroff support that was asked about includes the note As with the other APM options, this option may not work reliably with some APM BIOS implementations. -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Achieve file-locks over NFS??
Hy, list people. I'm a brazilian sysadm with a big trouble: I need some way to allow user-level programs to achieve file-locks (exclusive access file locks, more specifically) over my NFS. I need to transfer my qmail MTA from a machine to another, without transfer the user files together. I've installed a package called 'libnfslock' from the standard Debian Stable distribution, but it doesn't work as i spected. There is some one here that can tell me how to achieve this capability without recompilling my qmail? (It's a Debian package, and i doesn't have time to hacking arround the source...) Thanks in advance for any help. Debianized Regards for all. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Luis Campos de Carvalho System Administrator at ECB -- Escola Paulista de Medicina Do not expose your LaserWriter to fire or intense heat. -- Apple LaserWriter Manual =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: poweroff
Richard Dansereau wrote: Richard Dansereau said: Does the kernel have to be compiled differently? Yep. You need to compile your kernel with APM support. Any reason why the kernel does not have APM support automatically compiled in? You would think it could be made smart enough to have it in all of the time.. even if your machine does not have APM. Richard.. I certainly don't want it in my kernel, but I do think that all kernels should be automaticly compiled with AWE64 and Matrox Mystique in all of the time ... even if your machine does not have them. ;-) John -- Powered by the Penguin
Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 14:00:56 -0500, Brian Servis wrote: The KDE folks had/have no exception and thus were/are violating the GPL. Only if they're reusing other people's GPLed code, which reportedly they don't. Remember, an author isn't bound by the copyright license she puts on her own work, so it's not a case of the KDE project violating the GPL. The violation occurs when others distribute KDE binaries. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: E commerce stuff for linux?
aphro wrote: I looked at minivend/minimate a few months back, and downloaded it again last night to see if i can get it working..i need to get a small ecommerce site up(only 4 products changing on a weekly basis) i hope i can figure it out and get it going :) thanks for the info..didnt know webmin had modules for minivend that will help a lot im sure! nate -- I suggest that you stick with a simple modification of the demo catalog system. Feel free to ask questions as needed. The folks are very helpful on their mailing list, but be aware they are not newbie friendly. They expect you to learn on your on, not be taught by them. ALWAYS check the archives before asking a question on the mailing list. I will help where I can as the DOCS are not clear, unless you are an experienced Perl hacker. -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: pon problems with Potato
not 8-bit clean usually means that the chatscript is not succeeding in convincing the ISP to start ppp. Post your /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/chatscripts/provider files. Munge any passwords. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Do Linux full-time... Hiring Linux specialists
Can you write the exact URL? Thank you. ---BeginMessage--- Previously Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: I have no objections to job postings here. I think the web page idea is a good one. That webpage is supposed to be there already, I talked with the webteam about that a while ago. Can someone from the webteam comment on this? Wichert. -- / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D | pgpz2UEYj6kpA.pgp Description: PGP signature ---End Message---
Java 1.2 fails to run.
Hi I have a stock Slink system running on a K6 350 100 MHZ MB 128 MB RAM, 8G ide drive, SiS 6326 8MB video. I have jdk1.1 deb package installed. I need jdk1.2 I downloaded jdk1.2.2 r3 from blackdown, untarred it in /usr/local. I set the path per install instructions from blackdown: export PATH=/usr/bin/jdk1.2.2/bin:$PATH Attemtping to run java from here fails: java or cd /usr/local/jdk1.2.2/bin #./java each result in the following errors: ./java: /bin/realpath: No such file or directory ./java: /bin/realpath: No such file or directory java was not found in /bin/i386/native_threads/java Someone, please help me determine what I need to do to make jkd 1.2 run. --David David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely, useful, technically accurate, and friendly. (I'm hoping this is all of the above!)
