netscape y java

1999-12-28 Thread Faúndez
Quisiera saber si existe otro usuario linux
que tenga problemas con netscape 4.6 y applets de java,
el netscape soporta durante un tiempo un applet y luego
se congela.
-- 
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Re: .pid

1999-12-28 Thread TooMany
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 11:54:13AM -0600, Nitebirdz wrote:
 
 No te puedo decir si es un estandar de UNIX o no, pero si que te puedo
 asegurar que FreeBSD 3.3.4 tambien lo utiliza.  Supongo que cualquier
 version de BSD (SCO, HP-UX, etc.) tambien sigue esa regla.

Est... colega, me sabe mal decírtelo, pero SCO está basado en SYSTEM V,
y no en BSD. ¿HP-UX? Pues la verdad es que no te lo sabría decir :(

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sigo con Xanim

1999-12-28 Thread TooMany
Buenas.

Hace unas semanas me indicasteis que si, que no estaba equivocado y el
paquete xanim para visualizar mpeg's, etc, existía y estaba en la
distribución... Pero ¿donde demonios está?
Yo tengo la distro de Citius, la de cinco cd's; no está ahí. He mirado en el
site ftp de Debian, bajo la denominación de slink, y tampoco está...
¿Dónde cohoneh está er mardito paquete?

Gracias por todo.

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Re: Dudas sobre version Kernel

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Humberto,

Yo uso Red Hat en vez de Debian (al menos de momento), pero esto
del kernel afecta a todas las distribuciones por igual.  La linea 2.2.x
_es_ estable.  En el caso del kernel de Linux, los numeros impares en la
segunda porcion del nombre significan en desarrollo mientras que los
numeros pares significan estable.  Por poner un ejemplo: 2.0.36 es
estable debido al 0, y tambien los es 2.2.13 debido al 2, pero 2.3.11
esta en desarrollo debido al 3.  Ya se que los manuales son un poco
complicados de entender en este sentido, y a mi tambien me llevo un tiempo
acostumbrarme a la idea.

En cualquier caso, me parece que tu debes estar usando Debian 2.0.
Creo recordar que esa version venia con el kernel 2.0.36, al igual que Red
Hat 5.2.  



Nitebirdz



On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hola a todos
 
 Desearia me aclararan en lo que he leido de Corel Linux dice que usa 
 el kernel de debian 2.2 
 Hace unos dias la lista Debian-changes me mando el mensaje
 
 Binary: kernel-source-2.0.38 kernel-image-2.0.38 kernel-headers-2.0.38
 kernel-doc-2.0.38 Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2.0.38-2
 Distribution: stable unstable Urgency: high
 
 Fui a Potato/main/source/devel
 
 El de Nov 18 es Kernel-source-2.0.36... y hay otro con fecha mas 
 vieja ejemplo Oct 27 kernel-source-2.2.13 ... 
 
 Verdaderamente estoy un poco perdido con esto de las versiones pues 
 supongo que el 2.2 no sea estable, pero me pregunto si es asi porque 
 Corel tomo una de estas versiones, si es un desarrollo en que se esta 
 trabajando, porque sale la 2.0.38 y no algo mas reciente de la 2.2 o 
 es que hay diferentes grupos de desarrolladores para el Kernel
 
 Bueno disculpen si les he moslestados con mis dudas, agradeceria de 
 ser posible me dieran una idea de esto, para ver como me actualizo.
 
 Saludos
 
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] me cuelgan el modem desde afuera

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Manuel y Felipe,

Me podriais dar una idea de que comando ping se trata?  No, no es
que quiera dedicarme a joder la vida a otros internautas, sino que no me
puedo imaginar como es posible enviar una cadena mediante un ping.  Al fin
y al cabo, el ping solo toma o una direccion de IP o un nombre de
host+dominio como argumentos, y si es posile enviar cadenas mediante el
susodicho comando a mi me interesaria saberlo.


Nitebirdz



On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Blu wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 08:04:39PM +0100, Manel Marin wrote:
  [...]
  AUN PEOR:
  Y se me ha pasado por la cabeza que te pueden enviar un ping con datos
  (la cadena de marras) y tu PC al contestarlo te cuelgue... ¿es posible?
 [...]
 
 Pues precisamente eso fue lo que me paso a mi y por eso inicie este hilo.
 Alguien me hizo un ping con la cadena y mi maquina al contestarlo me 
 colgo el modem. 
 
 Hasta donde yo se la cadena funciona solo en un sentido, de la serial 
 al modem y no desde la linea al modem.
 
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Re: netscape y java

1999-12-28 Thread Jordi
On Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 02:17:10AM +, Pablo Faúndez wrote:
 Quisiera saber si existe otro usuario linux
 que tenga problemas con netscape 4.6 y applets de java,
 el netscape soporta durante un tiempo un applet y luego
 se congela.

Bienvenido a Netscape for Unix!
Dicen que mozilla M12 empieza a ser decente. Quizas quieras probar.

Jordi


Re: autentificacion con apache de RH y de Debian

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz


On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, David Charro Ripa wrote:

 Estoy migrando un servidor de intranet con RedHat4.2 a Debian/potato
 (si, si, nada de windows a Linux). Ya he pasado de PHP2 a PHP3. Ahora
 estoy con el apache.
 
 Y es que tiene en un directorio un control de acceso con el archivo
 .htaccess que no consigo que haga lo mismo en RH4.2 que en Debian.
 Debaria pedir un usuario y una clave y verificar que sea un usuario
 valido de la maquina. Consigo que me lo pida pero luego siempre me falla
 la autentificacion.
 
 
 Mi .htaccess es asi
 
 AuthName telefonos 
 AuthType Basic
 require valid-user 

David,

Creo recordar que necesitas agnadir una linea a este fichero tal
que asi:

AuthUserFile /home/httpd/html/users

Esto quiere decir que el citado fichero en /home/httpd/html (o
cualquier otro directorio) contiene las claves (passwords) de los
usuarios.  Puesto que tu .htaccess no contiene esta linea, no hay forma de
comprobar si la clave es correcta.  Por cierto, que o bien copias el
fichero users (o cualquier otro nombre que hayas usado) al nuevo
computador, o has de correr el .htpasswd otra vez para configurar las
nuevas claves.


Nitebirdz




 
 Y los modulos de apache han quedado asi:
 
 # The Debian package of Apache loads every feature as shared modules.
 # Please keep this LoadModule: line here, it is needed for installation.
 # LoadModule vhost_alias_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_vhost_alias.so
 # LoadModule env_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_env.so
 LoadModule config_log_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_log_config.so
 LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_rewrite.so
 # LoadModule mime_magic_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_mime_magic.so
 LoadModule mime_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_mime.so
 LoadModule negotiation_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_negotiation.so
 LoadModule status_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_status.so
 # LoadModule info_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_info.so
 # LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_include.so
 LoadModule autoindex_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_autoindex.so
 LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
 LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so
 # LoadModule asis_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_asis.so
 # LoadModule imap_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_imap.so
 # LoadModule action_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_actions.so
 # LoadModule speling_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_speling.so
 LoadModule userdir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_userdir.so
 # LoadModule proxy_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libproxy.so
 LoadModule alias_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_alias.so
 LoadModule access_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_access.so
 LoadModule auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth.so
 # LoadModule anon_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_anon.so
 # LoadModule dbm_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_dbm.so
 # LoadModule db_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_db.so
 # LoadModule digest_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_digest.so
 # LoadModule cern_meta_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cern_meta.so
 LoadModule expires_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_expires.so
 # LoadModule headers_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_headers.so
 # LoadModule usertrack_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_usertrack.so
 LoadModule unique_id_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_unique_id.so
 LoadModule setenvif_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_setenvif.so
 LoadModule sys_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_sys.so
 # LoadModule put_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_put.so
 # LoadModule throttle_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_throttle.so
 # LoadModule auth_ldap_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/auth_ldap.so
 # LoadModule allowdev_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_allowdev.so
 # LoadModule pgsql_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_pgsql.so
 # LoadModule cvs_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cvs.so
 # LoadModule define_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_define.so
 # LoadModule eaccess_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_eaccess.so
 LoadModule php3_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp3.so
 # LoadModule roaming_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_roaming.so
 
 Alguien me sugiere algun camino.
 
 
 Gracias
 
 
 
 David
 
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Re: SPAM: Propuesta de solucion

1999-12-28 Thread Jordi
Hola,

On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 02:11:19PM +, Paco Brufal wrote:
   Vamos a ver, me parece que os estais yendo por las ramas. El mejor
 método para evitar el spam es no permitir que los no suscritos pongan
 mensajes en la lista.

Seguramente.

   Si una persona está realmente interesada en la lista, no le
 importará enviar un par de mensajes para suscribirse. Si es un novato el que
 se quiere suscribir, pues se ponen unas instrucciones bien detalladas para
 que no la cague.

No quiero ser pesado, pero con esta solucion obvias que quizas hay gente que
solo quiere preguntar 1 unica pregunta, y solo quiere recibir de esta lista
las respuestas a su pregunta. Si un novato, por el hecho de que el upgrade a
potato le de un problema con Debconf y quiera solcionarlo se tiene que
suscribir a una lista con un trafico considerable, le conviene mas preguntar
al ciberpais.

   Si es que más sencillo no puede ser, y os estais comiendo la cabeza
 inutilmente... Estoy suscrito a un montón de listas en las que para
 apuntarse es necesario reenviar la confirmación de suscripción, y os aseguro
 que por allí no aparece spam ninguno, así que es un buen metodo.
 
   Por otro lado, sería bueno hacer una criba de e-mails de la lista
 que no se usan, porque me juego lo que sea que el servidor se tira un montón
 de tiempo resolviendo direcciones que ni siquiera existen.

Seguramente smartlist ya lo hace.


Jordi


Re: laptop compaq contura 430C

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Samuel,


Si te refieres al setup de BIOS, me parece que casi siempre es
presionando la tecla de Del mientras se inicializa el computador, o al
menos asi es como se entra en el setup de casi todos los computadores que
se usan aqui en los EEUU.  



Nitebirdz



On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Samuel Montosa wrote:

 
 esto... ya se que puede sonar estupido pero... ¿alguien sabe  como  
 entrar 
  al setup de este ordenador?
 
 
 (obviamente no dispongo de los manuales, y ya me  he  perdido  un  par  
 de 
  veces por la web de compaq)
 
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Re: Problemas con LILO.

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Emilio,

Si al arrancar el ordenador LILO no aparece por ningun sitio debe
ser porque no esta instalado en el MBR.  Prueba a correr /sbin/lilo.



Nitebirdz



On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, EMILIO HERNÁNDEZ MARTÍN wrote:

 
 Hola a todos.
 
 Feliz Navidad y próspero año nuevo, antes de nada.
 
 Os escribo para preguntar qué es lo que tengo mal en mi LILO para que no
 me aparezca al arrancar el ordenador. Mi fichero lilo.conf es:
 
 message=/root/inicio
 boot=/dev/hda3
 root=/dev/hda3
 compact
 install=/boot/boot.b
 prompt
 timeout=100
 map=/boot/map
 vga=normal
 other=/dev/hda1
  table=/dev/hda
  label=dos
 image=/vmlinuz
   label=linux
  read-only
 
 
 Mi particion de Linux está en hda3 y la de Windows, que es en la que
 quiero que arranque por defecto y que es la que está activa, está en hda1.
 
 Al arrancar el ordenador no aparece nada de LILO, ¿por qué puede ser? Me
 ha pasado otras veces y me ayudasteis a arreglarlo pero ahora creo que lo
 tengo todo igual que cuando lo hacía bien y sin embargo no funciona.
 
 Gracias a todos y un saludo.
 
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Re: Dudas sobre version Kernel

1999-12-28 Thread Humberto . Morell
Hola Nitebirdz y miembros de la lista
 Humberto,
 
   Yo uso Red Hat en vez de Debian (al menos de momento), pero esto
 del kernel afecta a todas las distribuciones por igual.  La linea 2.2.x
 _es_ estable.  En el caso del kernel de Linux, los numeros impares en la
 segunda porcion del nombre significan en desarrollo mientras que los
 numeros pares significan estable.  Por poner un ejemplo: 2.0.36 es
 estable debido al 0, y tambien los es 2.2.13 debido al 2, pero 2.3.11
 esta en desarrollo debido al 3.  Ya se que los manuales son un poco
 complicados de entender en este sentido, y a mi tambien me llevo un tiempo
 acostumbrarme a la idea.
 
   En cualquier caso, me parece que tu debes estar usando Debian 2.0.
 Creo recordar que esa version venia con el kernel 2.0.36, al igual que Red
 Hat 5.2.  
Muchas gracias por tu aclaracion, aunque habia leido algo de esto 
pero con tu buena explicacion se entiende mucho mejor.
Lo que yo sigo sin saber es que si hay algun cambio de filosofia 
entre el 2.0 y el 2.2 pues yo suponia por logica que la 2.2 era la 
que se estaba desarrollando en estos momentos, pero parece me fallo 
la logica pues estoy en la lista de debian-changes@lists.debian.org y 
por ejemplo recientemente el 21 de Dic. me mandan un mensaje que esta 
en estable y en inestable para ser bajado el Kernel 2.0.38.2.0.3 
vuelvo a la logica supongo entonses que se esta desarrollando 
paralelamente dos versiones la 2.0 y la 2.2
Cual es la explicacion de que esto sea asi?
Por cual vertiente de desarrollo me debo inclinar ?
Saludos
-
Humberto Morell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Te arde el ojete? Sentis el giñe cansado?

1999-12-28 Thread Manuel Trujillo
Eso es normal, debido al esfuerzo que implica mirar todo el rato la taza del
vater, mientras trabajas o navegas por Internet.
Nosotros, los que nos laxamos en Laboratorios Mamón, no podemos reducir las
horas que pasas sobre tu WC, pero podemos proponerte que pruebes ALMORRANIX.
¿Qué es ALMORRANIX? Es un colirio especialmente formulado para refrescar el
ojete cansado e irritado. Contiene un analgésico para reducir la sensación
de ardor y un vasoconstrictor, para devolverle al ojete su color negro
natural. Además, podés usar ALMORRANIX cuando tenés el ojete rojo por el
humo, el exceso de cloro en la pileta, la mala iluminación, trasnochar, y
todos esos factores que afectan tu ojete.
ALMORRANIX se vende en farmacias sin receta, porque es de venta libre, y
cuesta $ 4.50.- (estamos de rebajas por navidad, ya se sabe que los excesos
en estas fechas se pagan...).
Si queres saber mas sobre ALMORRANIX, conectate a nuestro webopeich:
http://www.mamon.com.ar/almorranix.htm


(Lo siento pero no he podido evitarlo, y ya que es el día de los Inocentes,
y viendo que no paran nuestros hermanos argentinos con el SPAM... ahí queda
eso ;-) )

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 Eso es normal, debido al esfuerzo que implica mirar
 todo el tiempo el monitor, trabajando o navegando
 por Internet.
 Nosotros, los que trabajamos en Laboratorios Gramon,
 no podemos reducir las horas que pasas frente a tu PC,
 pero si podemos proponerte que pruebes IRIX.
 Que es IRIX? Es un colirio especialmente formulado
 para refrescar los ojos cansados e irritados. Contiene
 un analgesico para reducir la sensación de ardor y un
 vasoconstrictor, para devolverle al ojo su color blanco natural.
 Ademas, podes usar IRIX cuando tenes los ojos rojos por el
 humo, el exceso de cloro en la pileta, la mala iluminacion,
 trasnochar, y todos esos factores que afectan tus ojos.
 IRIX se vende en farmacias sin receta, porque es de venta libre,
 y cuesta $ 8.50.-
 Si queres saber mas sobre IRIX, conectate a nuestro Web Site:
 http://www.gramon.com.ar/irix.htm


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Re: .pid

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
TooMany,

Tienes toda la razon no solamente en lo que respecta a SCO, sino
que tambien HP-UX esta basado en la version de UNIX de ATT.  Aparte de las
diversas variaciones como FreeBSD, OpenBSD y NetBSD, el unico sistema
operativo que estoy seguro de que pertenezca a la tradicion de BSD es
SunOS (que no Sun Solaris).  Asi pues, que conste la correccion.


Nitebirdz



On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, TooMany wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 11:54:13AM -0600, Nitebirdz wrote:
  
  No te puedo decir si es un estandar de UNIX o no, pero si que te puedo
  asegurar que FreeBSD 3.3.4 tambien lo utiliza.  Supongo que cualquier
  version de BSD (SCO, HP-UX, etc.) tambien sigue esa regla.
 
 Est... colega, me sabe mal decírtelo, pero SCO está basado en SYSTEM V,
 y no en BSD. ¿HP-UX? Pues la verdad es que no te lo sabría decir :(
 
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Re: Dudas sobre version Kernel

1999-12-28 Thread Xavier Andrade


On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hola Nitebirdz y miembros de la lista
  Humberto,
  
  Yo uso Red Hat en vez de Debian (al menos de momento), pero esto
  del kernel afecta a todas las distribuciones por igual.  La linea 2.2.x
  _es_ estable.  En el caso del kernel de Linux, los numeros impares en la
  segunda porcion del nombre significan en desarrollo mientras que los
  numeros pares significan estable.  Por poner un ejemplo: 2.0.36 es
  estable debido al 0, y tambien los es 2.2.13 debido al 2, pero 2.3.11
  esta en desarrollo debido al 3.  Ya se que los manuales son un poco
  complicados de entender en este sentido, y a mi tambien me llevo un tiempo
  acostumbrarme a la idea.
  
  En cualquier caso, me parece que tu debes estar usando Debian 2.0.
  Creo recordar que esa version venia con el kernel 2.0.36, al igual que Red
  Hat 5.2.  
 Muchas gracias por tu aclaracion, aunque habia leido algo de esto 
 pero con tu buena explicacion se entiende mucho mejor.
 Lo que yo sigo sin saber es que si hay algun cambio de filosofia 
 entre el 2.0 y el 2.2 pues yo suponia por logica que la 2.2 era la 
 que se estaba desarrollando en estos momentos, pero parece me fallo 
 la logica pues estoy en la lista de debian-changes@lists.debian.org y 
 por ejemplo recientemente el 21 de Dic. me mandan un mensaje que esta 
 en estable y en inestable para ser bajado el Kernel 2.0.38.2.0.3 
 vuelvo a la logica supongo entonses que se esta desarrollando 
 paralelamente dos versiones la 2.0 y la 2.2
 Cual es la explicacion de que esto sea asi?
 Por cual vertiente de desarrollo me debo inclinar ?
 Saludos
 -
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En esta direccion hay un articulo sobre el kernel 2.2 y sus
caracteristicas.

http://www.openresources.com/es/magazine/linux-kernel-22/index.html

Xavier


Re: Te arde el ojete? Sentis el giñe cansado?

1999-12-28 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On mar, dic 28, 1999 at 08:08:42 +0100, Manuel Trujillo wrote:
 (Lo siento pero no he podido evitarlo, y ya que es el día de los Inocentes,
 y viendo que no paran nuestros hermanos argentinos con el SPAM... ahí queda
 eso ;-) )

Todavía me duele el pecho de reirme TooMany, gracias 
X'DDD

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Re: sigo con Xanim

1999-12-28 Thread Paco Brufal
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, TooMany wrote:

 Hace unas semanas me indicasteis que si, que no estaba equivocado y el
 paquete xanim para visualizar mpeg's, etc, existía y estaba en la
 distribución... Pero ¿donde demonios está?

El xanim es una kk viendo mpeg's, el mejor que he probado es el
MpegTV, lo puedes buscar por frehmeat.net.

Si quieres saber cómo pertenecer a
Paco Brufal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fidonet, la red de correo con más
Fidonet 2:346/3.68  CALIDAD del Mundo y SIN SPAM,
preguntame como.

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--- Pine 4.20 + Sendmail 8.9.3
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] me cuelgan el modem desde afuera

1999-12-28 Thread Agustin MuNoz
El mar, 28 de dic de 1999, a las 06:37:09 -0600,  Nitebirdz  va y dice:

   Me podriais dar una idea de que comando ping se trata?  No, no es
 que quiera dedicarme a joder la vida a otros internautas, sino que no me
 puedo imaginar como es posible enviar una cadena mediante un ping.  Al fin

Es con la opcción -p (pattern) de ping

Creo que era algo así: ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d $1 donde $1 es la IP,
si lo pruebas ten en cuenta que tu modem también es posible que cuelgue ;-)


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ppp.log

1999-12-28 Thread Xose Manoel Ramos
Hoy se me dió por mirar el ppp.log y acabo de descubrir que mi
ppp.log no se ha actualizado desde junio de este año. He mirado la
configuración del syslogd y veo que no hay ninguna linea configurada
para el ppp.log.

¿Sabe alguien si Debian ha decidido prescindir de este fichero?
¿En que fichero se guarda ahora la información del demonio PPP?

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Re: Mas sobre versiones del kernel

1999-12-28 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

El 27 Dec 1999 a las 01:30PM -0500, Ugo Enrico Albarello escribio:
 At 11:57 AM 1999-12-24 +0100, Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren wrote:
 Hasrta hace unas semanas creía que SLINK era el kernel 2.2.x
 mientras HAMM era el kernel 2.0.x, pero al bajarme el último kernel
 estable del site DEBIAN y ejecutarlo me sale en los mensajes de
 inicialización que es el 2.0.38. Así que me voy al correspondiente
 directorio y me leo el README para ver si metí la pata al seleccionar el
 directorio ../stable y para mi sorprsa descubro que el KERNEL 2.0.38 es
 el SLINK; a partir de ese momento ya no entiendo nada. Y eso que no me
 he parado a ver qué kernel es el POTATO.
 
 Sencillamente el kernel 2.2.0 no estuvo a tiempo para salir junto a slink,
 así que tocó usar el 2.0.36. Potato viene con el 2.2.x.

En la ultima 2.1r4 (slink) el kernel es el 2.0.38.

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Re: copia de imagen de Debian

1999-12-28 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

Yo no tengo grabadora en Linux, pero tengo una disponible en windows y uso
Easy-CD-Creator para grabarlo. En el primer menú, hay una opción Grabar
CD desde fichero o algo así, y te permite buscar ficheros .noseque y
.iso.

Saludos.

El 27 Dec 1999 a las 03:55PM +0100, Hue-Bond escribio:
 El lunes 27 de diciembre de 1999 a la(s) 14:04:58 +0100, Antonio Angel Sanz 
 Arróspide contaba:
 
  En doslinux he instalado el cdrecord y cdwrite pero parece que estos
 programas (por lo que dice la ayuda) solo funcionan cuando la grabadora
 es SCSI (la mía es IDE). He intentado poner en la opción dev la unidad
 de CD-ROM y el programa se queja de que no es SCSI.
 
  Exactamente. Tienes  que compilar el núcleo  con emulación SCSI
  para que la grabadora se le  presente a los programas como si fuera
  SCSI. Pone cómo hacerlo en el CD-Writing-HOWTO creo.
 
 
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lib6 y paquetes de potato en slink (violacion de segmento)

1999-12-28 Thread Manel Marin
Hola a todos,

Me bajé unos paquetes de Potato, mi idea era instalarlos en mi slink sin
actualizarla... (ahora tengo 1.2GBytes instalados)
si tienes las librerias necesarias deberia funcionar...

Y...
- Violacion de segmento al lanzar cualquier ejecutable de potato,
- hago ldd ejecutable veo que enlaza con el symlink libc.so.6
- miro la libc de potato, resulta que es la libc-2.1.2.so y la libc de slink
que es la libc-2.0.7.so tambien usa el mismo symlink (libc.so.6)

Como cambia el segundo numero 2.0 - 2.1 las librerias no son compatibles
(numero y tipo de parametros creo recordar...) pero al usar el mismo symlink
al compitar !!!crash!!! Segment fault/Violacion de segmento

¿No deberian ser symlinks diferentes, por ejemplo libc.so.6.0 y libc.so.6.1?
Asi podria instalar la libc de potato como otra mas e instalar paquetes
aislados...

En la mandrake el symlink es tambien libc.so.6 ...

Creo que deberia ser algo facil... pero ahora que lo pienso las librerias
deben de estar tambien compiladas contra libc.so.6 ¿?


¿Hay alguna manera de hacerlo? ¿creando otro directorio para las librerias?
...Me parece que tendré que ponerme a compilar (es una lastima teniendo los
paquetes ya compilados...:-(


Saludos y gracias a todos por vuestro tiempo ;-)
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Re: Projeto de Lei

1999-12-28 Thread Andre Leao Macedo
Me desculpem,

Não sabia que vocês eram tão pessimistas. Sei que o projeto é
imperfeito e muito provavelmente não seria aprovado da forma como está. A
Lei de Pirataria de Software está aí, e aos poucos está começando a
preocupar as empresas. Nada muda de repente, mas se todos nós pudermos fazer
alguma coisa, ajudar, em vez de simplesmente sentar e meter o pau no que
está aí, nós vamos continuar na mesma m. de sempre. Richard Stallman começou
o GNU por causa de um driver de impressora. Se ele tivesse simplesmente
xingado a XEROX porque o driver não funcionava ninguém estaria nessa lista,
utilizando o Debian GNU/Linux. Nem todos tem o talento de programador de
Richard Stallman, ou a capacidade de motivar as pessoas como Linux Torvards,
ou a capacidade de gerenciar um projeto grande e disperso como faz Wichert
Wakerman com o Debian, mas não são só eles que fizeram esses projetos
importantes como são. Foram milhares de pessoas que os apoiaram
anonimamente, que passaram noites hackeando e trabalhando e não simplesmente
criticando o esforço daqueles que tomaram alguma iniciativa.
Todo mundo acha um absurdo uma empresa pública ter 95% de seu
software pirateado. Absurdo é o preço de uma licença do MS-Windows, um
software cheio de bugs, que você não tem a mínima idéia de como funciona e
que ainda suspeita-se que envie informações privadas para departamentos de
segurança americanos.
Fala-se muito também na falta de fiscalização de software pirata por
aí. Vocês já imaginaram verificar a licença de cada programa em cada estação
de uma única empresa de médio porte? Só para ter uma idéia, tirem o dpkg e
apaguem o diretório /usr/doc e tentem adivinhar quais programas estão
instalados. Todos eles são estritamente legais? Todos eles estão sob a GPL?
O Windows é café pequeno nas fiscalizações. O foco pricipal está em
softwares de grande custo como sistemas CAD/CAM, ou sistemas de controle
financeiro. As empresas estão começando a se regularizar, mas isso leva
tempo. Ainda assim existirão muitas cópias piratas, mas aí a questão passará
a ser outra. Por mais eficiente que seja a fiscalização, não adianta
combater a corrupção da própria sociedade. Eu tenho certeza que são muito
poucos nessa lista que podem dizer categoricamente que não usam NENHUM
software pirata na máquina. Quantos aí tem uma licença do Windows. A
fiscalização não é, e nunca será feita nas residências, tanto aqui quanto
nos EUA. Por que lá a pirataria é muito menor? É uma questão cultural.
Pensem nisso.
Não quero começar um flame war aqui, mas por favor, se alguém aí
acha que o projeto está incorreto, que essa não é a forma de abordar o
problema, por favor, em vez de simplesmente criticar a idéia aqui na lista,
façam sugestões a quem pode mudar alguma coisa. Exerçam a cidadania.

Finalmente, gostaria de pedir a todos desculpas pelo tom exacerbado
que essa mensagem tomou. Se alguém quiser me xingar, tudo bem, só não mandem
mensagens para a lista, mas diretamente para mim que eu apago elas logo que
chegarem :))

Um abraço,
André Leão Macedo

On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 11:13:48AM +, Gleydson Mazioli da Silva wrote:
 Outro detalhe que levanto é que a maioria das institiuções públicas 
 usam software da Microsoft e pior PIRATEADO! (diria uns 95%) 
 Posso dizer isto porque já trabalhei por 2 anos em uma, e o pessoal 
 da instalação nem ligam para isto e se preocupam porque NÃO HÁ 
 FISCALIZAÇÃO. 
 Mas parece que a Microsoft também não liga para isto porque 
 sabe que o seu sistema está de qualquer forma dominando o 
 mercado, seja regularmente ou não.
 
 Se o Walter Pinheiro propusesse uma lei sobre o aperto na fiscalização 
 dos softwares piratas em instituições e órgãos públicos, com certeza 
 isto 
 forçaria a retirada dos Softwares piratas das máquinas, e caso 
 necessitassem fazer uma instalação para colocar os sistemas em 
 funcionamento, o pessoal esbarraria na lei anterior sobre preferência 
 aos softwares gratuitos e levaria obrigatóriamente a uma pesquisa 
 sobre o Linux e seus pontos fortes.
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Servidor nao entra :-(

1999-12-28 Thread Adriana shimabukuro
oLA COLEGAS!! :-)

Devido a uma queda de energia, meu servidor Linux-Debian... foi desligado sem o 
shutdown...
Ao liga-lo novamente... aparece algumas mensagens estranhas...

FAILED INITIALIZATION OF WD-7000 SCSI CARD

VFS: MOUNTED ROOT (EXT2 FILESYSTEM) READONLY
UNABLE TO OPEN AN INITIAL CONSOLE
(server para aqui...)

Providencias tomadas:
1- Entrei com um floppy boot, dei fsck /dev/sda5 , nao acusou mensagem nenhuma 
de erro... e nao resolveu...
2 - Dei boot com prompt LINUX ROOT=/DEV/SDA5, nao resolveu...
3-  Troquei  a controladora SCSI e jah coloquei este mesmo HD num outro 
servidor Compaq identico... nao resolveu (penso ter eliminado alguma falha de 
hardware...) a mensagem de erro persiste...

O lado ghost da coisa:
- Pensei em instalar o Debian num segundo HD e montar o HD original manualmente 
para tentar recuperar algumas informacoes ... MAs jah na inicializacao do HD 
novo com o Cd do Debian a mensagem failed initialization of wd-7000 scsi card 
aparece de novo!... (???)

Qualquer ideia ou explicacao serah tao bem-vinda quanto a bencao do papai 
noel... :-)

Abracao,

Adriana



Re: Servidor nao entra :-(

1999-12-28 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Tente no boot:
rescue root=/dev/hda5
Quoting Adriana shimabukuro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 oLA COLEGAS!! :-)
 
 Devido a uma queda de energia, meu servidor Linux-Debian... foi desligado sem 
 o shutdown...
 Ao liga-lo novamente... aparece algumas mensagens estranhas...
 
 FAILED INITIALIZATION OF WD-7000 SCSI CARD
 
 VFS: MOUNTED ROOT (EXT2 FILESYSTEM) READONLY
 UNABLE TO OPEN AN INITIAL CONSOLE
 (server para aqui...)
 
 Providencias tomadas:
 1- Entrei com um floppy boot, dei fsck /dev/sda5 , nao acusou mensagem 
 nenhuma de erro... e nao resolveu...
 2 - Dei boot com prompt LINUX ROOT=/DEV/SDA5, nao resolveu...
 3-  Troquei  a controladora SCSI e jah coloquei este mesmo HD num outro 
 servidor Compaq identico... nao resolveu (penso ter eliminado alguma falha de 
 hardware...) a mensagem de erro persiste...
 
 O lado ghost da coisa:
 - Pensei em instalar o Debian num segundo HD e montar o HD original 
 manualmente para tentar recuperar algumas informacoes ... MAs jah na 
 inicializacao do HD novo com o Cd do Debian a mensagem failed initialization 
 of wd-7000 scsi card aparece de novo!... (???)
 
 Qualquer ideia ou explicacao serah tao bem-vinda quanto a bencao do papai 
 noel... :-)
 
 Abracao,
 
 Adriana
 
 
 
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potato upgrade, probs with perl-base

1999-12-28 Thread Pollywog
I am getting into some kind of loop and I need to remove perl-base
(temporarily) but it is an essential package.  The other way around this is to
activate APT::Force LoopBreak but I don't know what that means and the apt man
pages do not tell me what that is.

Any ideas on how I can fix this?

thanks

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Re: leafnode vs newscache vs suck? Did I missed someone?

1999-12-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 05:59:12AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote:

 Can you give a short comparison of all those, and perhaps others?
 Is suck comparable to the other 2 - its description does mention INN/CNEWS as 
 desirable package ?

Suck just deals with downloading news - it also requires a news server
like CNEWS or INN to allow you to read the news.  It basically provides
a pull feed for a full news server which doesn't know how to do one for
itself.

Leafnode does everything needed to download and allow you to read news.
The downside is that current versions don't download news particularly
fast and you can't create any local groups of your own.  OTOH, it's
extremely easy to configure and maintain.

I don't know newscache at all, but from the package description it appears 
to do the same job that Leafnode does - it's probably a case of parallel 
evolution.  Probably pretty much everything I've said about Leafnode
goes for it too.

I should probably point out that the above might be a bit biased since I
am the Leafnode maintainer, although I do also run an INN system.  While
INN is quite a nice system it is complete overkill unless you're taking
a real news feed or need to set up local groups.  The daemon is fairly
big and needs to be run all the time, and the maintinance for a pulling
feed is a bit more work than with Leafnode.

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Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?

1999-12-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 11:00:52PM -, Pollywog wrote:

 I am running potato on my other machine, but I want to upgrade my laptop from
 Slink to Potato.  If I understand correctly, you had to install a whole new
 Potato system from scratch.  That is exactly what I want to avoid; I want to
 upgrade the system I have now.

No, no reinstall should be required - for me, one of the great things
about Debian is that it supports in-place upgrades on running systems
(you don't have to boot an installer or anything).  Just pointing apt or
dselect at a source of potato packages and upgrading should DTRT.

I don't think there's any major breakage in potato right now.

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Re: potato upgrade, probs with perl-base

1999-12-28 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Pollywog wrote:

 I am getting into some kind of loop and I need to remove perl-base
 (temporarily) but it is an essential package.  The other way around this is to
 activate APT::Force LoopBreak but I don't know what that means and the apt man
 pages do not tell me what that is.

They do, it is in apt.conf

   Force-LoopBreak
  Never  Enable  this option unless you -really- know
  what you are doing. It permits APT  to  temporarily
  remove   an  essential  package  to  break  a  Con
  flicts/Conflicts   or   Conflicts/Pre-Depend   loop
  between  two essential packages. SUCH A LOOP SHOULD
  NEVER EXIST AND IS A GRAVE BUG.  This  option  will
  work  if  the essential packages are not tar, gzip,
  libc, dpkg, bash or anything  that  those  packages
  depend on.

I think you can enable it in this case, the perl situation is very
strange.

Jason


Re: Announcing FAI 1.0 (Fully automatic Installation)

1999-12-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
 
 Why cfengine and not debconf?  It seems to me that debconf is a
 natural for solving these problems.  In fact, there's no reason why
 dbootstrap couldn't ultimately be replaced by a debconf script,
 leading to a single system for automated (with conf file, network db,
 whatever) or manual installation.
 

cfengine will change the actual /etc/foo file at some later date.  The debconf
based app likely won't.  Plus there is no implied syncing between debconf db
and actual files on the system.

For instance, where will /etc/init.d/network{ing} come from?


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Package Phase of Install Fails

1999-12-28 Thread Hagen Finley
I apparently have succeeded in installing the stable base for Debian using
the Base1-4.bin disks (were those the most recent disks?). However,
following the reboot, the package installation phase appears to have failed.
I selected the apt option and configured apt to use
ftp://dtp.debian.org/debian but nothing was downloaded. Following that
disappointing moment, I quit the package phase and logged in as root. I then
attempted to ftp to the ftp.debian.org site and successfully logged on to
the site. That would seem to imply that I have the required internet
connectivity. I am concerned however, given I am attempting this feat at the
office and I access the internet via a proxy, and since I am not given the
option  of configuring the http:// or ftp:// apt options for a proxy, that
the download is failing for because the proxy option is not configured.
Any suggestions as to  how I might surmount this obstacle? Does it make 
any
sense to download the packages manually (a dull but achievable task)?
A prompt suggestion would be especially helpful since I am trying to 
wrap
this installation process up this evening. Thanks for the assistance.

Hagen Finley
Longs Drugs
Walnut Creek, CA



Re: Package Phase of Install Fails

1999-12-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 05:02:25PM -0800, Hagen Finley wrote:

 I selected the apt option and configured apt to use
 ftp://dtp.debian.org/debian but nothing was downloaded. Following that
 disappointing moment, I quit the package phase and logged in as root. I then

Downloading the lists of packages and the packages themselves are
seperate steps in the installation - you need to select the update and
install options to do these things.

 option  of configuring the http:// or ftp:// apt options for a proxy, that
 the download is failing for because the proxy option is not configured.

There is an option in /etc/apt/apt.conf or you can say export
http_proxy=http://proxy.host:port/; before running dselect to configure
it at runtime.

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RE: Really no sponsor out there?

1999-12-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 24-Dec-1999 Dennis Schoen wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Fri, 17 Dec i've posted an ITP for
 
 libdbix-cgi-perl
 libdbix-easy-perl
 libcgi-extratags-perl
 
 with the note that i need a sponsor for the packages.
 

I personally will only sponsor packages that I would be willing to maintain. 
I suspect others feel the same way -- how can we help you to solve bugs if we
do not use the software?


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Re: shutdown

1999-12-28 Thread Oki DZ
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 12:21:12PM -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote:
  Have a look at using sudo, to execute any commands you want as root.

 Speaking of sudo, is there a menu/X/KDE driven way of managing the
 sudoers file? I'm not having much luck with adding things in there
manually
 and I'd rather have something slightly more automated anyway.

Just in case you couldn't find the menu-driven software, here's my
/etc/sudoers telling users okidz  shutdown to be allowed to execute 
kill  shutdown commands without password:

# Host alias specification
Host_Alias  LOCAL = okidz

# User alias specification
User_Alias  SHUTUSERS = okidz,shutdown

# Cmnd alias specification
Cmnd_Alias  SHUTDOWN = /sbin/shutdown
Cmnd_Alias  KILL = /bin/kill

# User privilege specification
rootALL=(ALL) ALL
SHUTUSERS   LOCAL = NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN,KILL 

Problem is, even if you get sudo working, gdm can't be killed by:
kill `cat /var/run/gdm.pid`; because it would be restarted.

Replacing (user) shutdown's /bin/bash with a shutdown script in
/etc/passwd wouldn't work; it seems that gdm doesn't execute the default
login shell.

Oki





Re: Achieve file-locks over NFS??

1999-12-28 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Ethan Benson wrote:

 On 23/12/99 Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
 
  I'm a brazilian sysadm with a big trouble:
  I need some way to allow user-level programs to achieve file-locks
 (exclusive access file locks, more specifically) over my NFS.

 its my understanding that only the kernel space nfsd supports file locking.

Sorry. I missed it.
I need some way to allow user-level programs to request locks on
files over NFS. It's correct, now, i believe.

Ideas are welcome.

Happy new year! 


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Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?

1999-12-28 Thread Pollywog

On 27-Dec-1999 Mark Brown wrote:
 No, no reinstall should be required - for me, one of the great things
 about Debian is that it supports in-place upgrades on running systems
 (you don't have to boot an installer or anything).  Just pointing apt or
 dselect at a source of potato packages and upgrading should DTRT.
 
 I don't think there's any major breakage in potato right now.

It is just one of my machines that was broken, but I am installing potato now.
I hit a snag, but if I can set up an apt.conf file, I might be able to fix the
problem.

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softupdates for ext2fs? (was: fstab - `defaults' and `sync')

1999-12-28 Thread Arcady Genkin
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 27/12/99 Arcady Genkin wrote:
 
 If I want to mount a partition with `sync' option, can I keep
 `defaults'? I know `defaults' implies `async', but will explicitly
 specifying `sync' override that?
 
 yup, just like defaults,ro will mount readonly despite the fact that 
 defaults includes the rw option.
 
 sync may not help though, i recently turned it on for the root 
 filesystem then a few days later i had massive fs corruption on it. 
 I don't THINK it was related because after the reinstall i left it 
 async and had it ruined again...
 
 sync will for sure make the fs unbearably slow.

Yeah, I know. I only want to do it on my root partition. I had a power
failure yesterday, and there were problems when I rebooted.

On a side note, there is such thing as `softupdates' developed in
FreeBSD. Apparently, it allows synced disk I/O comparable in speed to
memory-based (async). Is anything like that going to be implemented
for ext2fs?

(For those of you who haven't heard of softupdates)
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RE: Package Phase of Install Fails

1999-12-28 Thread Hagen Finley
 Downloading the lists of packages and the packages themselves are
 separate steps in the installation - you need to select the update and
 install options to do these things.


Having set the http_proxy variable I was able to perform a successful Update
within dselect. I saw a login take place etc. However, I remain unclear
about what exactly is taking place within dselect. Is dselect installing
packages from the base install or does everything dselect wants live on the
ftp site?

Also my update apparently overwrote my dial-in package option - is there a
simple way to tell dselect I want those packages again? - that does not
appear to be an option within dselect.

Finally, I don't appear to have X or at the very minimum it doesn't appear
to be configured. Is there a config script for X too?

 There is an option in /etc/apt/apt.conf or you can say export
 http_proxy=http://proxy.host:port/; before running dselect to
 configure
 it at runtime.

Yes thank you that seemed to address the internet access issue.

Thanks for your help - I'm this level of questioning is a bit tedious, but
its very much appreciated.

Kind regards,

Hagen Finley
Longs Drugs
Walnut Creek, CA


xsane gimp1.1 problem (?)

1999-12-28 Thread Paolo Pedaletti
Ciao,
I have the followig problem:

$ gimp
Message: Passed serialization test

Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to tkObject'

/usr/lib/gimp/1.1/plug-ins/xsane: Segmentation fault caught
/usr/lib/gimp/1.1/plug-ins/xsane (pid:10422): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack
trace or [P]roceed: p

Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to tkObject'

/usr/lib/gimp/1.1/plug-ins/xsane: Segmentation fault caught
/usr/lib/gimp/1.1/plug-ins/xsane (pid:10423): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack
trace or [P]roceed: e
gimp terminated: ricevuto sigpipe

** WARNING **: wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)



$ xsane

Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to tkObject'
Segmentation fault




$ ldd /usr/bin/xsane 
libgimp-1.1.so.10 = /usr/lib/libgimp-1.1.so.10 (0x4001c000)
libgtk-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0x4002f000)
libgdk-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x40153000)
libgmodule-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x40186000)
libglib-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x40189000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401ab000)
libXi.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x401b)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x401b8000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x401c4000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40263000)
libpng.so.2 = /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x4028)
libsane-dll.so.1 = /usr/lib/sane/libsane-dll.so.1 (0x402a7000)
libtiff.so.3 = /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x402ad000)
libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x402f)
libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4031)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4031f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

any know bugs/problem? or I am the only one? ;-(


rc  xsane   0.42-1 a gtk based X11 frontend for SANE (Scanner A
ii  xsane-gimp1.1   0.42-1 a gtk based X11 frontend for SANE (Scanner A
ii  gimp1.1 1.1.13-1   Developers' release of the GNU Image Manipul
ii  libc6   2.1.2-10   GNU C Library: Shared libraries and timezone

TNX

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PAM broken in 2.1r4?

1999-12-28 Thread aphro
I recently upgraded 4 machines from 2.1r3 to 2.1r4.  all of them had
custom installed ftp daemons from:

http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/madore/programs/#prog_ftpd-BSD

before the upgrade all 4 worked, after the upgrade none of them did.  and
i can't find the package name for the openbsd ftp daemon in slink..i still
dont trust proftpd or wuftpd so can someone lemme know what the package
name is that i need for slink or let me know what needs to be done to the
above ftpd to get it to work in 2.1r4.

that ftpd uses PAM to authorize users, i see no errrors in my logs i just
get a login incorrect error.

ideas?



thanks!

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Re: Reverse DNS problem after bind upgrade(?)

1999-12-28 Thread aphro
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Alvin Oga wrote:

aoga a.  did you check resolv.conf 

yes..

aoga 
aoga b.  did you restart named ?

many times..updated the serial numbers etc etc..

aoga 
aoga c.  if you only use  208.222.179.31 as your dns server...
aoga than does reverse work ??

yes

aoga 
aoga d.  are you running secondary on localhost from  208.222.179.31

secondary is 208.222.179.30

aoga e.  was it using named.boot before and now its using named.conf ?

was always using named.conf  not using a stock debian configuration..

aoga have fun linuxing
aoga alvin

thanks ..

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Re: /etc/profile should include sbin in PATH

1999-12-28 Thread Brian Mays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Stark) wrote:

 ... there are many programs in sbin that are useful for ordinary users
 including the two explicitly listed in the FSSTND, traceroute and
 ifconfig.

Hmmm... Let's see.  From the ifconfig(8) man page:

NAME
   ifconfig - configure a network interface

DESCRIPTION
   Ifconfig  is used to configure the kernel-resident network
   interfaces.  It is used at boot time to set up  interfaces
   as  necessary.  After that, it is usually only needed when
   debugging or when system tuning is needed.

Thus, ifconfig's own documentation appears to state that ifconfig is
an administrator's tool.  Indeed, I think that you are too focused on
classifying a tool as useful for ordinary users if there is even a
remote possibility that it might be run by an ordinary user.  Instead of
focusing of what a user *might* run, I prefer to focus on the purpose of
each utility.  There are many programs that are primarily intended to be
used for administrative purposes.  While we can debate what tasks can be
classified as administrative, personally, I feel that anything that sets
up, configures or analyzes devices, network interfaces, etc. *should*
be classified as an administrative tool.  I also feel that this should
include such tasks as analyzing the network.

If a user periodically needs to perform such administrative tasks under
his user account, he can modify the path on that account.  That's pretty
easy to do.  There are many users, however, who will never need to run
any of these administrative commands (even you must admit that), and
therefore, do not need them in their path.

 I personally don't buy this logic at all for two reasons:

 1) Nobody has been able to explain why these programs are a burden

We should not need to explain why these programs are a burden.  You are
the one who wants to change things.  If you want to play these games,
then you should explain why it is such a burden for you to add /sbin
and /usr/sbin to the path of your account.

 2) What can be usefully run as an ordinary user can vary based on the
local administrator policy. lsof may be a setuid on one system
whereas ping is made unsetuid on another system. /dev/loop[0-9] may
be writable by group disk on one system whereas group disk may be
empty on another.

And such cases should be handled by the local administrator, not us,
the distribution builders.  They can easily be handled by an energetic
administrator by adding a symlink to /usr/local/bin.

 3) There is no precedent in Unix for separating binaries based on
their intended users. The only example is one that mostly just
causes headaches and problems, /usr/X11R6.

What about /usr/bin/mh -- used by MH, the most Unix-like of all MUAs?
All MH commands are placed in their own directory, and rightly so.  Not
only is it unnecessary for these commands to be in the an ordinary
user's path, it is dangerous, since a user who is not familiar with MH
can, by misspelling a similar command, mistakenly run one of the MH
commands and mess up his mailbox and his account.  There is no reason to
run one of MH's commands (even by mistake) if the user's account is not
set up to use MH, and there is no reason for these commands to appear in
the path.

As another example, consider the Unix practice of listing its
administrative commands (system management commands) in a separate
section of its documentation (section 8 of the man pages).  This was
done so that ordinary users of a Unix system can focus on section 1,
the user's commands, and not worry about system administration.  If
these administrative commands are not documented in the same section as
ordinary commands, I think that it is sensible to place them in their
own directory.

Please don't tell me that there is no precedent in Unix for separating
binaries based on their intended users.  That is simply not true.

 I guess I propose that either of two things happen:

 1) /sbin and /usr/sbin are put into everyone's path.

That is not necessary.  It eliminates the whole point of separating the
binaries in the first place.

If you want to place /sbin and /usr/sbin in your path on your system, or
place them in the everybody's path on the systems that you administrate,
then fine; that's your own business, and it's not very difficult to
do.  Please however, do not stick these two directories in MY path just
because you fail to understand the difference between administrative
work and ordinary work.

 2) Debian Policy explicitly include language listing the types
of programs that we consider only generally useful to system
administrators. Either that or an unambiguous set of objective
criteria to test. Personally I suggest only system daemons that
cannot be run without root privileges and configure scripts that
cannot save their configuration changes without root privileges
Note that this would mean some daemons would be in /usr/bin and
some in /usr/sbin.


BIND problem fixed i think

1999-12-28 Thread aphro
god damnit.  i hate it when this happens.  it appears that my ISP changed
the ips of their DNS *again* without telling me so when it came time to do
zone transfers my system denied the new ip address.  so i think thats what
was causing the reverse DNS to be screwed up..wasnt the upgrade after
all(yay!)  i'll know in about 24 hours i guess..

(from my log):

unapproved AXFR from [216.145.1.85].2429 for
179.222.208.IN-ADDR.ARPA (acl)
unapproved AXFR from [216.145.1.85].2433 for
188.222.208.IN-ADDR.ARPA (acl)
unapproved AXFR from [216.145.1.86].3257 for
179.222.208.IN-ADDR.ARPA (acl)

i was grepping my log just last night for the word 'xfer' woulda caught it
then if i woulda spelled it right! doh..

nate

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Re: softupdates for ext2fs? (was: fstab - `defaults' and `sync')

1999-12-28 Thread Ethan Benson

On 27/12/99 Arcady Genkin wrote:


On a side note, there is such thing as `softupdates' developed in
FreeBSD. Apparently, it allows synced disk I/O comparable in speed to
memory-based (async). Is anything like that going to be implemented
for ext2fs?


I thought i read on BSD docs (this was OpenBSD) that softupdates are 
available but they discourage using it because it works like linux 
async and will leave the fs in a inconsistent state and you should 
prepare to rebuild it if you ever have a power failure.. I could be 
thinking of something else though...


if you read the docs in /usr/local/src/linux/Documentation on ext2 
there is a note that sync should be faster then it is and hopefully 
will be at some point. currently its slower then bsd ffs (which is 
pretty slow...)


Ethan


Heimdal

1999-12-28 Thread Brian May
Hello All,

I have uploaded heimdal to non-us. Hopefully, this upload worked, and
doesn't try to put it into the wrong place...

Known problems:

- debconf setup not properly implemented yet.

- kdc package not yet tested.

- still considering moving files from /usr/bin to
/usr/lib/heimdal-clients - perhaps with update-alternatives, this
could be made transparent to the user?

- key distribution must be done manually - I think this is
beyond the scope of a Debian package.

Please report any problems and patches (preferred!) to
me.

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Re: Debian GNU/Linux Supported Laptops?

1999-12-28 Thread koyote

 I am a reseller of COMPAQ, HP, IBM and Toshiba laptops,  and would like to 
 know if their current products are compatible with Debian GNU/Linux ?
 
 I have not found any reference to this on their respective homepages, and 
 this question is important to potentially 450 units that 1 of my customers 
 would like to purchase.

 IBM Thinkpads, from the ancient 486 to present, run Debian GNU/Linux quite
qell with one exception in two parts:

 the mwavesoundcard/modem device doesn't work in linux.   First part- the
soundcard, can be worked-around by loading some files in a dos boot up and the
using loadlin to boot linux. 
The SEcodn part is AFAIK, still unsolved, though there is still hope
that IBM will come out and give us the info to build drivers for both devices.

Current uptime for my Thinkpad: 12 days, 15hours, 03 minutes. :)



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Re: Quake in Germany - not illegal?

1999-12-28 Thread Joseph Carter
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On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 12:24:02PM +0100, Christian Hammers wrote:
 Well, IIRC we don't ship the game at all, we only ship the engine.=20
 Without the 200MB data from the original CD (that you have to bye on some
 legal way) it is completetely useless.=20

quake-lib.

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rose bush. They look lovely and smell nice. Once a lucky company dethrones
Microsoft they will shed their petals to expose the thorns underneath. A
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Re: Missing MSIE's Search Bar under Linux

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Bart,

I haven't seen anything similar in Linux yet... with the exception
of the new Mozilla build (M12).  Granted it is not even beta yet, but
rather in alpha, but it does have the feature you mention.  If you are
willing to run some buggy software, go ahead and point your browser to
http://www.mozilla.org, and download the M12 build of Mozilla.  I read
somewhere in slashdot today that they just released a special build for
Debian today.  Of course, keep in mind it is quite unstable and buggy.



Nitebirdz



On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Bart Szyszka wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've been using Debian a lot lately, but there's one thing I'm missing a lot.
 MS Internet Explorer's Search Bar. In case you don't know what it is, it's
 basically a search pane on the left side of the browser window where when
 you type in your keywords, it'll display the results in that bar and when you
 click a link to follow them, it opens it on the right while the pane stays
 open. That way you can easily go through searches without needing to
 deal with opening new windows or using the back button to go back to the
 search page. And in the Search Bar you can click the 'Next' button to have
 it cycle through all the search engines. Has anyone been able to find
 something similar that they use under Debian Linux w/ Netscape? Or what
 about a program like Copernic (not nearly as convenient as the Search Bar,
 but it would be better than how I'm doing things now)?
 
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ppp

1999-12-28 Thread Nathan York
how do i invoke a ppp conection from the command line.  i have already
setup the connection via pppconfig.  now i need to know how to get it to
dial.

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Problem with key not repeating on X

1999-12-28 Thread Rajesh Radhakrishnan
Hi,

I just upgraded to potato and have a small problem...

The key I press isn't repeated as I keep depressing it.
I have to lift and press again. I have the same problem
irrespective of whether I run fvwm95 or afterstep. 

Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
-Rajesh


System hangs on boot

1999-12-28 Thread Alec Smith
For Christmas I got my hands on a Yamaha CRW6416S (SCSI-2 CD-RW) and 
Toshiba XM-6401TA (SCSI-2 CD-ROM) drives. They're running off an Advansys 
UltraWide SCSI controller (940UW).


When I boot Linux, my machine hangs after detecting the CD-RW drive. As far 
as I can tell, termination is ok... The SCSI chain is


ID 0 - CD-ROM (terminated, end of cable)
ID 3 - CD-RW (not teminated)
ID 4 - SCSI controller (set to active termination)
ID 5 - HP ScanJet (terminated)

Am I missing something here? The kernel is 2.2.14pre16 compiled with 
support for the Advansys controller plus SCSI disk and CD support and the 
option to support proprietary extensions for Toshiba drives. The rest of 
the system is Debian 2.2. I've had no previous 2.2.14pre problems.


Re: ppp

1999-12-28 Thread Shaul Karl
I believe that 
pon
should do it. IIRC, plog will tell you what is happening.

 how do i invoke a ppp conection from the command line.  i have already
 setup the connection via pppconfig.  now i need to know how to get it to
 dial.
 



Re: Troubles with moving /var

1999-12-28 Thread John Pearson
On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 09:58:51PM -0500, Brian Servis wrote
 *- On 20 Dec, Ethan Benson wrote about Re: Troubles with moving /var
  On 20/12/99 aphro wrote:
  
 
 cp -a doesn't work on more obscure platforms like irix..there is a tar
 command..that acts like cp -a i saw it posted in a magazine(Maximum
 Linux) but i forgot what it was, if its linux its safe to use cp -a
  
  probably something like (cd / ; tar -cvpf - var) | (cd /home ; tar -xvpf -)
  
  quite a bit more obnoxious then cp -a for sure, but iirc it seemed to 
  deal with symlinks a bit better.  there is a cpio way too but i'll 
  leave that to someone else.
  
  the key is when using tar use the -p switch !!  :-)
  
  
 
 cd /var; find . -mount | cpio -dumpv /home/var
 
 has done the trick for me several times.
 

I use
# cd /source/dir/ ; find . -xdev | afio -p /dest/dir/

afio is the only one (of tar, afio and cpio) that has successfully
done everything asked of it.  

Any of the following may not get copied correctly with one or another 
version of the other two:
 special files (block  character devices)
 sockets  named pipes
 sparse files
 long pathnames
 symlinks
 hard links

I'm sure it's not perfect, but it hasn't failed me yet.


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Docs for the developer DB online

1999-12-28 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

I have written up some documents on how to use the developer DB, they are
linked from http://db.debian.org/

In particular, if anyone looses/lost their password I will be directing
them to: http://db.debian.org/password.html :

If anyone has any questions they would like to see answered let me know
and I can update the pages.

Thanks,
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Re: softupdates for ext2fs? (was: fstab - `defaults' and `sync')

1999-12-28 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 On a side note, there is such thing as `softupdates' developed in
 FreeBSD.  Apparently, it allows synced disk I/O comparable in speed to
 memory-based (async). Is anything like that going to be implemented
 for ext2fs?

It's my understanding that softupdates provide the same functionality as a
journaling file system ala ext3 and current betas of RieserFS.

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Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 03:06 PM 12/25/99 +0100, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote:
... as the primary non-US site is in Germany (IIRC).

Nope, non-US (pandora) is in the Netherlands...

Regards,

Onno



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Re: Really no sponsor out there?

1999-12-28 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 24-Dec-1999 Dennis Schoen wrote:
  Hello,
  
  On Fri, 17 Dec i've posted an ITP for
  
  libdbix-cgi-perl
  libdbix-easy-perl
  libcgi-extratags-perl
  
  with the note that i need a sponsor for the packages.
  
 
 I personally will only sponsor packages that I would be willing to maintain. 
 I suspect others feel the same way -- how can we help you to solve bugs if we
 do not use the software?

That is understandable, but how one becomes Debian maintainer from
scratch ? This is the cause why Dennis and I need a sponsor.
We developing this software and Dennis will maintain the Debian
packages.

Bye
Racke

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Re: Territorial Legal Issues and FTP Archives (was Re: Quake

1999-12-28 Thread Roland Mas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Onno) writes:

 At 09:09 PM 12/25/99 -0800, Joseph Carter wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 11:14:28PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
   I think the right solution is selecting a country with good connectivity
   and less stupid laws. What about canada?
  
  pandora is already in a perfect location...
 
 Thought we can't upload mp3 encoders to pandora?  Or is that just because
 some mirrors couldn't handle it?
 
 Why not? Here in the Netherlands mp3's and mp3 encoders are not
 illigal.

I think it's more a problem with patents and copyright and stuff like
that.  Virtually all MP3 encoders have a bit of code from the
reference encoder (written by the people Fraunhofer Institute), and
the license is quite restrictive as I'm told.

 BTW I can't think of any software that would be illigal here.

Any kind of software violating a copyright...

Roland.
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Re: Opera Beta for Linux Released!

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 01:42 PM 12/24/99 -0500, Marcin Kurc wrote:
It doesn't look stable yet to me:

Maybe thats why it is beta ;-)

Regards,

Onno



Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 12:49 AM 12/27/99 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 01:13:42PM +0100, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
 We should not, under any circumstances, mess our distro, only because
 some group of morons claiming to be `government' ban such package here or

Try to be practical. The USA is the most likely home for the master
server, simply because of the larger bandwidths and more free software-
focussed companies. Australia for example seems to be free of
software problems (so far), but since bandwidth is charged per megabyte
of actual use here, it's not a great place to locate a master server.

So for practical reasons, master is in the USA, which means non-US
must exist.

Hasn't pandora masive bandwidths?

Regards,

Onno



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Re: Quake is GPL

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 01:13 PM 12/26/99 +0100, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
We should not, under any circumstances, mess our distro, only because
some group of morons claiming to be `government' ban such package here or
elsewhere. If there are such laws somewhere citizen of such country have only
these posibilities :

1) try to make gov change such laws
2) try to change gov
3) go abroad
4) go outlaw

I would go for 4, 1 and 2 in that order. I would risk a lawsuit here in the 
Netherlands anytime if some stupid law whould restrict my freedom. Having 
a law for something doesn't mean that the goverment is right, there are 
quite some stupid law's here that are put on hold or are ignored by judges. 

But than again here in the Netherlands youre quite protected against
misuse of the law like in the US and other countries so risking a lawsuit
here wouldn't be much of a pain, not even financialy...

[We had censorship even 10 years ago here, so I know what I am talking about]

With the exception of being occupied for about 5 years we have a democracy
here for, eh, well I don't know how long (few hunderd years or so?) so
I also know what freedom is -and- how to exersice it.

Regards,

Onno





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Re: Listening daemons and security

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 01:59 PM 12/24/99 -0700, Howard Mann wrote:

[snip]

What is the purpose of omniNames ? Do I need it? Is it a security
risk?

A security rule: If you don't what is is, remove it!

I guess I do not need portmap. I do not use NFS. What is the best
way to shut it off?

In potato: 

root# killall portmap
root# rm /etc/rc2.d/S18portmap

(check if some other stupid script doesn't start it!)

Regards,

Onno



Re: Listening daemons and security

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 04:51 PM 12/24/99 -0500, Salman Ahmed wrote:
[snip]
(2) monitor your logfiles. Some good logging tools that are available as
deb packages are ippl (IP Protocols logger), and iplogger (icmplogd,
tcplogd; also known as IP Paranoia Daemons)

iplogger is a security risk, see the debian-security mailing archives details.

Regards,

Onno



Re: Opera Beta for Linux Released!

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 03:23 PM 12/24/99 -0700, Art Lemasters wrote:
 And what are the great points about Opera?  Is it distributed
under a GPL?

THAT would be nice...

Regards,

Onno



GIMP Dying with File Saves

1999-12-28 Thread Art Lemasters
 The GIMP program is dying here most times when file saves
are attempted.  I'm running GIMP 1.1 with Potato.  Is anyone
else having this problem?

Art



Re: GIMP Dying - Error Messages

1999-12-28 Thread Art Lemasters
 Here's what the .xsession-errors file said.

-
Message: Passed serialization test

gimp: fatal error: file gimpdrawable.c: line 240 (gimp_drawable_gimage): 
assertion failed: (GIMP_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable))
gimp (pid:349): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack trace or [P]roceed: 
** WARNING **: wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
Message: Passed serialization test


** WARNING **: wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
(incidentally, gimage already has a valid preview - 80x40)
gimp: fatal error: file gimpdrawable.c: line 240 (gimp_drawable_gimage): 
assertion failed: (GIMP_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable))
gimp (pid:444): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack trace or [P]roceed: 
** WARNING **: wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)

** WARNING **: wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
Message: Passed serialization test


** WARNING **: gdisplays_flush() called recursively.
(incidentally, gimage already has a valid preview - 80x40)
gimp: fatal error: file gimpdrawable.c: line 240 (gimp_drawable_gimage): 
assertion failed: (GIMP_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable))
gimp (pid:481): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack trace or [P]roceed: 
** WARNING **: wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)

** WARNING **: wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
Message: Passed serialization test

IMLIB ERROR: SHM can't get SHM Identifier for Shared Pixmap Wrapper
 Falling back on Shared XImages
IMLIB ERROR: SHM can't get SHM Identifier for Shared XImage
 Falling back on XImages

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Re: unrouteable mail domain

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
You could try [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,

Onno


At 09:03 PM 12/24/99 +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
I hope you all have a blessed Christmas weekend.

I get this error sometimes - and there is no pattern that I can
discover because sometimes mail to the same address sometimes go
through without a problem.  This time the mail was sent by a python
program to two addresses and to myself.  The mail to myself and one of
the addresses went through, but the message got frozen by exim with
the following error log:

1999-12-24 17:08:00 1213JD-MU-00 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
unrouteable mail domain futurenet.co.za
1999-12-24 17:08:00 1213JD-MU-00 Frozen (delivery error message)


futurenet.co.za is the domain of my ISP.

I have in my exim.conf:

smarthost:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = remote_smtp
  condition = ${lookup{$sender_address}lsearch{/etc/exim/frommap}{1}{0}}
  route_list = * futurenet.co.za bydns_a 

I hope somebody can help me with this one

Johann
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ITP: libkakasi-ruby

1999-12-28 Thread akira yamada / やまだあきら

I intent to package libkakasi-ruby.  libkakasi-ruby provides KAKASI
interface for the object-oriented scripting language Ruby.  

  Ruby URL:http://www.ruby-lang.org/
  KAKASI URL:http://kakasi.namazu.org/

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Re: Restarting Daemons on package install/upgrade.

1999-12-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Greg Stark wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 24, 1999 at 10:07:38AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
   Well this works for people that use the old init-style with links in
   /etc/rc* and won't work for people like me that use file-rc. Please
   provide first a solution for both cases. Then we can send out bugreports
   and fix those packages.
  
  I sometimes wish we could settle on some of these key technologies,
  like the two rc schemes, and inetd versus xinetd. It would make a lot
  of things similar. Imagine if we had two menu systems. Similar confusion
  happens with the documentation systems.
 
 I disagree, I think we should settle on an interface that allows multiple
 implementations. Settling on the sysv init.d would be a tie us to something

Exactly.  That's why there is update-rc.d for both sysvinit and
file-rc which are compatible, and that's why we have update-inetd
for both inetd implementations, though I don't know if they're
compatible.  Compatible in the meaning of commandline-compatible
and same commandline arguments will result in about the same
behaviour.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Problem with key not repeating on X

1999-12-28 Thread Remco van 't Veer
I don't know how to change the system configuration to fix this for
all the users but you can use xset to turn auto-repeat on in your
~/.profile (assuming you use bash or ksh as a login shell).
Put in something like:

[ -n $DISPLAY ]  xset r on

HTH,
Remco


On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 23:46, Rajesh Radhakrishnan wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just upgraded to potato and have a small problem...
 
 The key I press isn't repeated as I keep depressing it.
 I have to lift and press again. I have the same problem
 irrespective of whether I run fvwm95 or afterstep. 
 
 Any suggestions?
 Thanks in advance.
 -Rajesh


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(none)

1999-12-28 Thread Marit Sandsmark Stabel
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charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I need a driver to Hercules stingray 128\3D

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charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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HTML
HEAD

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http-equiv=3DContent-Type
META content=3D'MSHTML 4.71.2016.0' name=3DGENERATOR
/HEAD
BODY bgColor=3D#ff
DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2I need a driver to Hercules stingray=20
128\3/FONTFONT face=3DArial size=3D2D/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML

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Re: Packages referenced but missing from the archive

1999-12-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 I went and grabbed all the Packages files for all the distributions
 I know of (main, contrib, non-free, non-us/main, non-us/contrib, 
 non-us/non-free), and went and checked wether all the dependencies
 can be satisfied. As it turns out, there are many packages referencing
 other non-existant packages.

GREAT!!!

 Should I file bugs and if so, what type?

Bugs need to be filed, though they need proper investigation.

 fortify = fotify-win32

Looks like a bug in fortify

 fvwmconf = fvwm2  (yes! fvwm2 doesn't exist)

Where is fvwm2 gone to?

 kernel-source-* = gas (there is no gas package)

bug in kernel-source-*

 gstep-{base,base-dbg,xgps} are all not there

Who needs them?

 jdk1.2{,-native} don't exist

ditto

I guess there are packages newer than jdk1.2 or named differently
or there is a virtual package, thus packages depending on these
packages will have to use the new names, thus they're bugy.

etc...

 A few places reference qt1g (should be libqt1g)

File a bug, recompile should be enough.

 emacsspeak mentions many tclx packages which do not exist

bad.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Territorial Legal Issues and FTP Archives (was Re: Quake

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
 BTW I can't think of any software that would be illigal here.

Any kind of software violating a copyright...

That was a no-brainer, but just to be precise:
I can't think of any original software that would be illigal here.

Regards,

Onno

PS: here = the Netherlands



Re: Ethernet drivers...

1999-12-28 Thread Onno
At 07:19 PM 12/26/99 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi! I just bought a D-Link DE-220PCT ethernet card for my linux box. It's a 
10mpbs ISA card, so I figured it would work. I need to know what 
drivers/modules I need to install during the debian installation for it. 
Also, I need to know what all I need to have installed and setup to be able 
to network my Linux box with my Win98 box. Thanks a lot, Bye!

Take a look at the used chipset (tulip, via rhine, ???), then install the 
appropriate driver.

Regards,

Onno



Re: [bug] Restarting Daemons on package install/upgrade.

1999-12-28 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

Do we have a generic way to test whether a daemon is enabled for
  a given runlevel?  That is -- one that works with filerc as well
  as sysvinit?

 Not yet. At some point debconf will provide that information.

I don't see, how debconf can remember what servers are running in the
_actual_ runlevel (which may differ from the default run level and may
change from time to time).

A more generic way is the start-rc.d script written by Ingo Saitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and adapted to file-rc by me.  This script
should be packaged near update-rc.d in dpkg (diverted by file-rc).
You run this script with the daemon from /etc/init.d/daemon as a
parameter and it starts this daemon with only if it should be active
in the actual run level.

I'll attach the two scripts to this message.

But I fear, that we have to change the policy before we can use these
scripts...

Ciao

Roland

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#!/bin/sh
#
# start-rc.dStart the initscript if it shold run in this runlevel
#
# Version:  1.0  06-Oct-1999  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Usage:start-rc.d daemon
# Depends:  sysvinit
#
# Copyright (C) 1999 Ingo Saitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
#

# Which initskript to start?
daemon=$1

# The current runlevel is the second field in the output of the runlevel
# command.
runlevel=`runlevel | cut -d\  -f2`

# Test if there exists a startup-link for the current runlevel
if test -e /etc/rc${runlevel}.d/S??${daemon}; then

# Execute the initskript
/etc/init.d/${daemon} start
fi
#! /bin/sh
#
# $Id: start-rc.d,v 1.3 1999/10/06 23:02:55 roland Exp $
#
# Usage: start-rc.d daemon
#
# Starts daemon if this daemon is active in the actual runlevel
# or started in rcS according to runlevel.conf.
#
# This script was written by Roland Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# it is based on an idea of Ingo Saitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
# some code from the other file-rc scripts (update-rc.d, rc, rcS).
#
##
#
#   Copyright (C) 1999  Roland Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
#   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
#   modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as
#   published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of
#   the License, or (at your option) any later version.
#
#   This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
#   General Public License for more details.
#
#   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#   along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#   Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.
#
##

basename=$1

# Get the actual runlevel using runlevel(8). This command outputs the
# previous runlevel and the actual runlevel. We only use the latter.
runlevel=`runlevel`
runlevel=${runlevel##* }

CFGFILE=/etc/runlevel.conf

element() {
local element list IFS

element=$1

[ $2 = in ]  shift
list=$2
[ $list = - ]  return 1
[ $list = * ]  return 0

IFS=,
set -- $list
case $element in
$1 | $2 | $3 | $4 | $5 | $6 | $7 | $8 | $9)
return 0
esac
return 1
}


while read LINE
do
case $LINE in
\#*|) continue
esac

set -- $LINE
SORT_NO=$1; STOP=$2; START=$3; CMD=$4

[ $CMD = /etc/init.d/$basename ] || continue

if element $runlevel in $START || element S in $START
then
/etc/init.d/$basename start
exit 0
fi
done  $CFGFILE


Re: E commerce stuff for linux?

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz


On 22 Dec 1999, Colin Marquardt wrote:

 * aphro  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  i want to know what people reccomend for an e commerce package for
  linux(free or not)  something thats stable, secure, and runs on debian 2.1
  :)
 
 Freshmeat has this to say:
 
   --- - --- -- - --- -- - - - -- -
 
   subject: MiniVend 4.0 alpha3
  added by: Frank Tegtmeyer on Dec 02nd 1999, 03:17
   license: GPL
  category: Web/Online Shopping
 
  homepage: http://apps.freshmeat.net/homepage/908223822/
  download: http://apps.freshmeat.net/download/908223822/
 changelog: http://apps.freshmeat.net/changelog/908223822/
 
 description:
 MiniVend is the most powerful free shopping cart system available
 today. Its features and power rival the costliest commercial systems.
 MiniVend supports just about every need for a leading edge shopping
 site. Online credit processing with CyberCash[tm], Authorize.Net, and
 PaymentNet. security with SSL and PGP, powerful database connectivity
 with SQL and DBI/DBD, internationalization, and much more. There is now
 a web-based administration tool, dubbed MiniMate.
 
 changes:
 The alpha directory is at http://www.minivend.com/alpha/, the download
 location for the alpha version is
 http://www.minivend.com/alpha/minivend-4.0alpha3.tar.gz, and the
 changes you may see at http://www.minivend.com/alpha/WHATSNEW.
 
 urgency:
 low
 
 | http://freshmeat.net/news/1999/12/02/944122656.html
 
   --- - --- -- - --- -- - - - -- -
 
 Of course, it also has a stable version.
 
 Cheers,
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I heard that OpenSales is pretty good too, and it just went GPL.
It can be found at http://www.opensales.com



Nitebirdz


Re: Help me POP 3

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Miguel,


That config sounds OK to me.  However, how did you configure the
email client (Outlook Express in this case).  Also, can you tell us what
error message (if any) you are getting?  Are you popping the email at all?


La configuracion me parece correcta.  Sin embargo, como
configuraste el programa de correo electronico (Outlook Express en este
caso)?  Puedes decirnos tambien que mensaje de error te ha dado el
programa?  Puedes bajar el correo?


Nitebirdz



On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ing. Miguel Zelada wrote:

 Hi I need read my mails that in my server Redhat 6.0 with sendamail
 I configurate inetd.conf and I remove #,  in pop-3 and pop-2 but when acces 
 around Outlook expres don`t read mi emails.
 I need if have configurate other section in mi Redhat o in mi Windows NT 
 Server or mi clients Windows Nt Worstation.
 
 Tank you
 
 
 
 Ing. Miguel Zelada
 Technical Support
 Unify InterAmerica
 (507) 270-0109 / 10
 (507) 638-2242
 Panam?, Rep de Panam?
 


Re: Help me POP 3

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz


On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, aphro wrote:

 You cannot read mail with a SMTP server.  that is for sending mail
 ONLY.  This is true for every SMTP server there is(many mail packages
 include both POP3 and SMTP so it may seem as if the smtp is allowing users
 to read mail) the daemons listen on different ports(smtp 25 pop3 113 imap
 and pop3 not sure about) and are different protocols.
 
 POP2/POP3/IMAP is used for modern mail reading.
 
 nate
 


Nate,


That's right.  However, sendmail can also be used to pop email in
spite of its name.  All you need to do is open the correct port (POP3 in
most cases).  That is precisely the way I am running it in two or three
servers.


Nitebirdz



 On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ing. Miguel Zelada wrote:
 
 mzelad Hi I need read my mails that in my server Redhat 6.0 with sendamail
 mzelad I configurate inetd.conf and I remove #,  in pop-3 and pop-2 but when 
 acces around Outlook expres don`t read mi emails.
 mzelad I need if have configurate other section in mi Redhat o in mi Windows 
 NT Server or mi clients Windows Nt Worstation.
 mzelad 
 mzelad Tank you
 mzelad 
 mzelad 
 mzelad 
 mzelad Ing. Miguel Zelada
 mzelad Technical Support
 mzelad Unify InterAmerica
 mzelad (507) 270-0109 / 10
 mzelad (507) 638-2242
 mzelad Panam?, Rep de Panam?
 mzelad 
 
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Re: clearing SO's browser cache

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Pollywog,

Did you check in the Office51 directory under your own home
directory?  I believe StarOffice puts a lot of stuff there.


Nitebirdz



On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Pollywog wrote:

 Does anyone know how I can clear my StarOffice browser cache?  I can't even
 find it and I believe it might be somewhere in /tmp
 
 I clear my Netscape cache from ~/.bash_logout and I would like to do the same
 for StarOffice.  Doing this lowers my df value :)
 
 thanks
 
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Re: Packages referenced but missing from the archive

1999-12-28 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 fvwmconf = fvwm2  (yes! fvwm2 doesn't exist)

Martin Where is fvwm2 gone to?

It is named fvwm now, as this is now the official fvwm version (prior
to that fvwm 1.24 was the official version, and fvwm2 was a beta).

fvwm 1.24 is fvwm1 now.

BTW, I think Julian is looking for someone to take fvwm.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Making Debian packages cross-compiler ready!

1999-12-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Dec 24, 1999 at 01:15:17AM +0100, Raphael Bossek wrote:
 i would like
 to have a cross-compiler support in the debian packages by default so 
 i can specify extra gcc options or define the name of gcc or other
 binutils for instance like the linux kernel Makefile it does. are there
 any kind of idears how i this problem can be solved?

See dpkg-architecture(1), which I wrote, also see dpkg-cross.
However, every package needs to be treated individually, there is no
king road to cross compilation. See glibc for a package which does it well
(without dpkg-cross even).

Some bug reports I did file to get cross compilation working, but I stopped
persuing this for a while.

 i found that the glibc/libc6 package have allready first steps in this
 directions on the other hand the gcc package is not cross-compile ready :-(

Note that gcc is very special, as it wants to compile itself.

Marcus


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Re: is kernel 2.0.38 broken?

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Pollywog,

There is a problem affecting the 2.0.x kernels in the sense that
local users can cause a denial of service attack by using ping with a
certain argument.  However, there is already an update to the netkit
package that temporarily fixes the problem.

Nitebirdz



On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Pollywog wrote:

 I thought I read on this list that there was a problem with the last 2.0.x
 kernel.  Is that true?  I still have Slink on my laptop, so I am not ready for
 a 2.2.x kernel and I am using 2.0.36.
 
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Timeline for potato

1999-12-28 Thread Matthias Klose
Richard Braakman writes:
  Here is a summary of the plan for releasing potato.  The dates after the
  actual freeze are still soft.  Please speak up if you have problems
  with them.
  
  
  January 2   No new packages freeze

what did happen to the libncurses5 packages? will they be uploaded for 
potato? Asking because I do not want to upload a readline4 before this 
is installed ...


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pppd problems

1999-12-28 Thread Tom Allard

I continue to have trouble accessing web pages on my in-laws Slink machine.
I can telnet to machines (even to port 80), but I can't get lynx, netscape,
or kfm to browse web sites.  I'm using mindspring and I have no proxies set.
I can connect to the same account on my machine and access web sites w/out a
proxy.  I noticed the following in syslog:

Dec 24 19:47:46 naid pppd[8674]: pppd 2.3.5 started by chenxu, uid 1010
Dec 24 19:47:46 naid pppd[8674]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 24 19:47:46 naid pppd[8674]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Dec 24 19:47:46 naid kernel: registered device ppp0 
Dec 24 19:47:50 naid pppd[8674]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP
Dec 24 19:47:50 naid pppd[8674]: local  IP address 165.247.98.90
Dec 24 19:47:50 naid pppd[8674]: remote IP address 168.121.1.1
Dec 24 19:47:59 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x4d
Dec 24 19:47:59 naid pppd[8674]: Received bad configure-nak/rej:  12 06 00 00 
00 01
Dec 24 19:48:18 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x35
Dec 24 19:48:18 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xf3
Dec 24 19:48:19 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x86e5
Dec 24 19:48:22 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x39
Dec 24 19:48:32 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x3e43
Dec 24 19:48:49 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x2a79
Dec 24 19:48:58 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xb5
Dec 24 19:49:49 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xbb
Dec 24 19:49:52 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xbac7
Dec 24 19:50:07 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x86a9
Dec 24 19:50:33 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x6b
Dec 24 19:50:33 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xe42f
Dec 24 19:50:43 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x9f
Dec 24 19:50:58 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x71
Dec 24 19:51:44 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x6d
Dec 24 19:51:44 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x73
Dec 24 19:51:45 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xe7
Dec 24 19:51:46 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xc679
Dec 24 19:51:49 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xff
Dec 24 19:51:53 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xbafb
Dec 24 19:52:20 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x22f1
Dec 24 19:52:29 naid pppd[8674]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0xd



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Problem with Quake2

1999-12-28 Thread Rajesh Radhakrishnan
Hi,

If this question if off-topic, sorry about that...

I upgraded to potato and saw that quake2 was installed.
After an error with finding pak0.pak, I got it to run but it 
exits with the following error,

* WARNING **: shmget failed!
Error: VID: Could not get any shared memory

Any suggestions...

Thanks
Rajesh 


Re: Debian GNU/Linux Supported Laptops?

1999-12-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, koyote wrote:
 I am a reseller of COMPAQ, HP, IBM and Toshiba laptops,  and would like to 
 know if their current products are compatible with Debian GNU/Linux ?
 
 I have not found any reference to this on their respective homepages, and 
 this question is important to potentially 450 units that 1 of my customers 
 would like to purchase.

My Thinkpad 600E works really well with Debian.  Let me know if there's
anything in particular that causes you problems and I'll tell you how to
solve it.
I haven't got IRDA or USB working fully because of a lack of other hardware
to talk to.  The kernel says it's working...

 IBM Thinkpads, from the ancient 486 to present, run Debian GNU/Linux quite
qell with one exception in two parts:

 the mwavesoundcard/modem device doesn't work in linux.   First part- the
soundcard, can be worked-around by loading some files in a dos boot up and the
using loadlin to boot linux. 
   The SEcodn part is AFAIK, still unsolved, though there is still hope
that IBM will come out and give us the info to build drivers for both devices.

Modern Thinkpads use a Crystal Semi sound chipset which uses the cs4232
driver or the SB driver.  The only problem is that the cs4232 driver needs to
be reloaded on every resume, and the SB driver doesn't work with recording.

As for the modem.  The WinModem in the 600 series takes 2 IRQs.  The PC
architecture doesn't allow enough IRQs to get all the hardware to work at
once.

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Linux NAT and stuff.

1999-12-28 Thread Ronald Tin
Hi all,

 I am starting to use Debian (potato) as a firewall with NAT functions.
I have fast NAT compiled into the kernel, installed iproute2, read
through the documentation ip-cref and did what was suggested in
Appendix C. Everything looks fine. Except ... I cannot connect
to the NATed machine from the internal network.

My (approx) network topology:

 INTERNET  --- FW1 [172.16.29.254] ---+--- [172.16.28.2] NT Lotus Notes
  |
  |
[172.16.29.1]
 FW2
[172.16.28.1]
  |
  |
[172.16.28.x]
 desktop PCs

(don't ask me why 2 firewalls are needed, I don't know :( )

I have IP Masquerading and the NAT running in FW1
(172.16.28.x uses MASQ, 172.16.29.2 uses NAT and ipchains is
 set to just forward packets)

I can connect to the Notes server from the Internet.
desktop PCs can connect to the Internet and the 2 FWs.
The 2 FWs, of course, can go anywhere.
I can connect from FW1/2 to the Notes server through 172,16.29.2.
However (here's the problem), I cannot connect from desktop PCs
to the Notes server.
Also, if I try to connect to the Notes server from FW1 using the
NATed address I get an invalid argument error.

What was the cause of these 2 error?

The ip commands are something like this:
   /sbin/ip route add nat $EXTIP via 172.16.29.2
   /sbin/ip rule add prio 1000 from 172.16.29.2 to 172.16.0.0/16 table main
   /sbin/ip rule add prio 1001 from 172.16.29.2 nat $EXTIP

The documentation mentioned a table called inr.ruhep.
Was the name arbitrary? Appendix C mentioned
this table should contain route to the destination, but
I don't know what that is supposed to be..


Shall I use FW2 to do masquerading, and FW1 to provide NAT for
FW2 and Notes? Will it help the situation?
I just noticed that it should be easier to manage this way.


(I really think I should have posted it somewhere else.
 should I? And if yes, where should I post?)

Hope it doesn't look too difficult to understand. My english isn't
that good. :(


Java problem

1999-12-28 Thread Michael Meskes
Everytime I start a JAVA program (that runs fine on a SuSe machine with
jdk-1.1.7v3) I only get the messages:

Cannot open /proc/00525 for GCCannot open /proc/00534 for GC

Of ocurse these files do not exist. In fact I never saw a file iunder /proc
starting with zeroes.

Anyway, I have the following packages installed resp. not installed:

un  jdk-common  none (no description available)
ii  jdk1.1  1.1.7v3-1  JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit) - Runtime o
ii  jdk1.1-dev  1.1.7v3-1  JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit)
ii  jdk1.1-native   1.1.7v3-1  JDK 1.1.x Runtime - native threads extension
pn  jdk1.1-native-d none (no description available)
un  jdk1.1-runtime  none (no description available)
un  jdk1.2  none (no description available)
un  jdk1.2-native   none (no description available)

Is there anything wrong with my setup? 

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Michael
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BIND security question

1999-12-28 Thread Pollywog

On 28-Dec-1999 root wrote:

Was this someone trying to find out which BIND I am running?
 
 Unusual System Events
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Dec 28 06:39:09 lilypad named[342]: unapproved query from [206.79.22.9].1978
 for version.bind
 Dec 28 06:39:09 lilypad named[342]: unapproved query from [206.79.22.9].1978
 for version.bind


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Spontaneous reboot with 3c59x kernel module

1999-12-28 Thread Stuart Ballard
I have had this problem on two different computers, at least 3 different
3com 59x network cards, and both the slink default kernel-image and my
own compiled 2.2.12 (using kernel-package). In one case I was unable to
install debian (slink) at all until I changed network cards to an ne2k
compatible because the reboot happened before the installation finished.
In the second case I am on cutting-edge potato.

The symptom is that between 1 and 15 minutes after loading the 3c59x
module (either by modprobe, ifconfig, or modconf), the machine reboots
with no warning whatsoever. I have not timed this problem (in all cases
the priority was getting the machine working so I didn't do any real
debugging) so it may be the exact same time delay in each case or it may
vary - but it always happens within a few minutes. In the time between
loading the module and the reboot, the card seems to work - one time I
successfully copied several megabytes of data across the link.

None of the explanations for this problem make sense. It can't be bad
hardware - in all cases win9x or NT were able to use the cards with no
problems. Nobody else in my company uses Debian, but many use Red Hat on
similar cards with no problems. The number of different computers and
situations involved seems to preclude it being some other piece of
hardware or software in my system. But I can't believe that the kernel
developers have missed a spontaneous reboot bug for 2 whole stable
versions of the kernel! That leaves (1) User error by me... but all I
did was select the item from the list in modconf! There are no mandatory
options, but the same thing happened if I tried supplying the optional
ones. Or (2) a debian-specific bug to do with the way kernel-package
compiles things. Could this be a gcc2.7/egcs/gcc2.95 issue? Does
kernel-package use gcc2.95 where available? What is the slink default
kernel-image compiled by?

Does anyone have any similar stories to report, fixes, workarounds, or
suggestions as to where to go to get the bug fixed, if it is a bug? (I'd
say that even if it's user error it's a bug... no bad input should cause
a spontaneous reboot, just an error message).

Thanks in advance,
Stuart.


cannot make anything - Please Help

1999-12-28 Thread Brian J. Stults
When I try to make zImage, I get tons of errors like the ones listed at
the end of this message.  It happens with almost anything that I try to
make (glibc, gcc, etc.)  Any ideas?

Also possibly related, when I ./configure when trying to compile make,
I get this message:

checking argument types of select()... configure: error: can't determine
argument types

Thanks.

Error messages when doing make zImage for kernel 2.2.10 follow:

In file included from /usr/local/include/stdio.h:57,
 from conmakehash.c:17:
/usr/local/include/libio.h:333: parse error before `_IO_sgetn'
/usr/local/include/libio.h:333: parse error before `size_t'
/usr/local/include/libio.h:333: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
In file included from conmakehash.c:17:
/usr/local/include/stdio.h:233: parse error before `size_t'
/usr/local/include/stdio.h:239: parse error before `size_t'
/usr/local/include/stdio.h:269: parse error before `size_t'
/usr/local/include/stdio.h:273: parse error before `size_t'
/usr/local/include/stdio.h:277: parse error before `size_t'
/usr/local/include/stdio.h:442: parse error before `fread'
/usr/local/include/stdio.h:442: parse error before `size_t'
/usr/local/include/stdio.h:443: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
And so on
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Re: Java problem

1999-12-28 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Everytime I start a JAVA program (that runs fine on a SuSe machine
 with jdk-1.1.7v3) I only get the messages:

 Cannot open /proc/00525 for GCCannot open /proc/00534 for GC

I reported this as Bug #48807 against version jdk1.1 1.1.7v2-2 some
time ago.

Tscho

Roland

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Re: Opera Beta for Linux Released!

1999-12-28 Thread Nitebirdz
Art Lemasters,


The main positive feature of Opera is how fast it is compared to
any of the two major browsers in the Windows world.  I just downloaded and
installed the beta version for Linux, and it seems to be pretty fast
too... as fast as the version for Windows.  However, it is not GPLd,
although I have a feeling that releasing it under the GPL license would be
a smart move by the Opera guys since there is a chance that many Linux
users would switch from buggy Netscape.  In the meantime, I am not so sure
I will run it due to the fact that it is not opensource, which is no
impediment for me to acknowledge its strengths.




Nitebirdz



On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Onno wrote:

 At 03:23 PM 12/24/99 -0700, Art Lemasters wrote:
  And what are the great points about Opera?  Is it distributed
 under a GPL?
 
 THAT would be nice...
 
 Regards,
 
 Onno
 
 
 
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Re: Opera Beta for Linux Released! Slink...?

1999-12-28 Thread virtanen
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Nitebirdz wrote:

 installed the beta version for Linux, and it seems to be pretty fast
 too... as fast as the version for Windows.  

Is it possible to install it to Slink? I tried, but couldn't get it
working. 

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Re: help

1999-12-28 Thread Fish Smith

help

Might try being a little more descriptive.  for
instance, what do you need help with?  It's somewhat
hard to render aid when the entire request is help.

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RE: Blackdown's jdk1.2.2 v3 does not run....

1999-12-28 Thread David Teague
All

Having reread my message about my jdk 1.2.2 problem, I must complain
about MY request. It was utterly uninformative as to the problem and
was hard to answer, but you have helped by pointing some areas to 
investigate and some inconsistencies in my remarks.

I have posted a second message that details spadework I have done. 
Please accept my apology for not supplying details.

Please do look at my secoind post to see if you can help me.

-David
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Jesse Tilly wrote:

 First a peeve:
 
 I am writing this because I am reminded by Rajesh's message.  He does what I
 think *all of us* should do.
 I think it is completely unhelpful for people to reply to it doesn't work
 messages with well, it works for me messages.  As a list it is a nuisance,
 however, the real problem occurs with searches of archives and USENET.  The
 reply includes the original message and thus a search returns these
 offending messages.
 
 Now, a response (keep in mind I have not installed Blackdown):
 
 You are running /usr/local/jdk1.2.2/bin/java yet your path is
 /usr/bin/jdk1.2.2/bin (something I have issue with, but that aside...).
 
 Also, the native_threads and realpath variables seem to be relative, your
 error mentions an absolute path.  This is a problem (and judging by the
 success responses to which you refer, it is likely in your script
 hacking).
 
 Jesse


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Re: Opera Beta for Linux Released! Slink...?

1999-12-28 Thread Erich Zigler
On Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 07:05:10PM +0200, virtanen wrote:

  installed the beta version for Linux, and it seems to be pretty fast
  too... as fast as the version for Windows.  
 Is it possible to install it to Slink? I tried, but couldn't get it
 working. 

I too installed it to the latest unstable update of Debian and it worked just 
fine. I just didnt care for it. Sure it was fast but the screen parsing and UI 
was not that exceptional. In fact, I thought it was worse then Netscape. Im 
sticking to w3m and when I absolutely have to have it *shudder* Netscape.

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slink leafnode and y2k???

1999-12-28 Thread Christian Surchi
But... in y2k slink upgrade no new package of leafnode??? What about it? :o


Thanks
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Re: Packages referenced but missing from the archive

1999-12-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
Martin Schulze wrote:
 
 Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
  I went and grabbed all the Packages files for all the distributions
  I know of (main, contrib, non-free, non-us/main, non-us/contrib,
  non-us/non-free), and went and checked wether all the dependencies
  can be satisfied. As it turns out, there are many packages referencing
  other non-existant packages.
 
 GREAT!!!
 
  Should I file bugs and if so, what type?
 
 Bugs need to be filed, though they need proper investigation.

But do you think they are release critical bugs?

  fortify = fotify-win32
 
 Looks like a bug in fortify

It actually missing fortify-win32, but yes, it's unlikely to
exist for debian.

  fvwmconf = fvwm2  (yes! fvwm2 doesn't exist)

Well, it appears the packages were renamed.
fvwm (version 2) = fvwm1
fvwm2 = fvwm (version 2.2)
It's compatability depends for old versions of fvwm, so it's
not strictly a bug.

 Where is fvwm2 gone to?
 
  kernel-source-* = gas (there is no gas package)
 
 bug in kernel-source-*

Hmm, seems to me it could be a bug in kernel-package. I don't know
since I never use it. Need to look into this.

  gstep-{base,base-dbg,xgps} are all not there
 
 Who needs them?

Well, actually: gstep-extensions{,-dbg,-dev} but I have the
feeling these are obsolete packages that just havn't been deleted
yet. (Nothing depends on them)

  jdk1.2{,-native} don't exist

lib-rxtx-java does so it might be in anticipation?
Its Depends line looks like: 
Depends: jdk1.1 (= 1.1.7v2) | jdk1.2 | jdk1.1-native | jdk1.2-native

  A few places reference qt1g (should be libqt1g)
 
 File a bug, recompile should be enough.

Hmm, have done so except for xgmod, which appears to exist in both
contrib and main, with the one in main being correct (and newer).

  emacsspeak mentions many tclx packages which do not exist
 
 bad.

Well, the depends looks like:
Depends: tclx80|tclx76|tclx75|tclx74|tclx, emacs19|emacs20

Only tclx76 is present so it will work. However none of the
others are. Seems a misuse of versioning here. Seems unlikely
you could usefully install them all simultaneously.

Martijn


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Is is legal to have duplicate package names? (We got two)

1999-12-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
At the moment there are two in the archive.

One is xgmod, which is in both contrib and main, with
the main one being newer. Looks like the package was moved
but not deleted out of old area. Accident probably.

The other is ircii, which exists in both main and non-US/main.
Almost the same version numbers and undoubtably deliberate.

Is this allowed?

Martijn


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Re: Packages referenced but missing from the archive

1999-12-28 Thread Peter Makholm
Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Bugs need to be filed, though they need proper investigation.
 
 But do you think they are release critical bugs?

If the packages can't be installed because of missing depencies it's
and release critical bug. If the depencies just are ugly (|'ed
existing and non-existing package) it isn't release-critical.

(My oppinion)

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