Probando ispell/aspell/abiword (chuleta)
Hola a todos, He estado probando los correctores ortográficos de potato: ispell, aspell, abiword Adjunto chuleta :-) ¿Alguien sabe como hacer que abiword no marca las palabras acentuadas que ispell trata bien como erróneas? Saludos, -- - Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.2 potato) kernel 2.2.17 Mira mis chuletas de Linux en http://perso.wanadoo.es/manel3 - Mi petición de drivers para Linux es la nº 33126 (Pasate por http://www.libranet.com/petition.html ;-) I-spell: (0.01) (potato) Instalando correctores ortográficos ispell/aspell/gaspell CONCLUSIONES: aspell solo trae diccionario en English abiword promete pero aún no es la bastante estable yo personalmente voy a usar ispell, tiene muchos diccionarios... INSTALAR PAQUETES diccionarios: ispanish iamerican ifrench igerman idutch ... ispell chequeo ortográfico de modo texto (resto opcional) aspell ídem ¿mejor que ispell? (solo diccionario en English...:-( aspell-doc documentación de aspell gaspell frontend gráfico GTK para aspell abiword procesador de texto, no tiene tablas pero tiene buena pinta (hay una versión Win... también soft libre :-) ISPELL Nada que hacer, el diccionario por defecto ya es el adecuado tras instalar los paquetes... Uso: ispell archivo [A] aceptar para todo el texto [espacio] aceptar palabra como está sólo esta vez [1], [2], etc sustituir por alternativa 1, 2, etc [U] añadir a diccionario personal en minúsculas [I] insertar como está en el diccionario personal [X] salir guardando cambios (sale sólo al llegar al final) ARCHIVOS ~/.ispell_default Diccionario personal ? ~/.ispell_words ídem ? ~/.ispell_spanish ídem /usr/lib/ispell/* Diccionarios LIMITACIONES No se pueden usar simultáneamente dos diccionarios (Español/Inglés) MAS INFO: man ispell ASPELL/GASPELL ! Diccionario solo en English :-(, no trae diccionario Español Uso:aspell check archivo#Corrige archivo aspell config #Muestra configuración ARCHIVOS: ? /etc/aspell.conf#?config ? ~/.aspell.conf #?config /usr/lib/aspell/* #Diccionarios (diferentes a ispell) MAS INFO: /usr/doc/aspell-doc/man-html/index.html (en paquete aspell-doc) POR PROBAR: Convertir diccionario Español de ispell a aspell (la doc explica como) ?Uso simultaneo de dos diccionarios (Español/Inglés) opción data-dir en aspell config (usr/share/aspell) ?) Crear /usr/share/aspell/spanish.dat? ?) Crear /usr/lib/aspell/spanish? ABIWORD !!! abiword usa el diccionario Español pero marca como equivocadas todas las palabras acentuadas ¿solución? !!! peta durante la corrección ortográfica... POR DENTRO: Abiword utiliza ispell para la corrección ortográfica
Re: ¿como compruebo que mi hd va a 66mg/s?
Hola 31, On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 12:12:32PM +0200, 31 wrote: ¿como si linux está usando la transferencia de 66m/s de mi disco duro? ¿que programa o como se puede hacer para que use esa transferencia? tengo el kernel 2.4.0-test7 ¿que opciones le pongo? ¿necesito algun soft adicional? -- Te adjunto mi chuleta de hdparm ;-) Saludos, -- - Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.2 potato) kernel 2.2.17 Mira mis chuletas de Linux en http://perso.wanadoo.es/manel3 - Mi petición de drivers para Linux es la nº 33126 (Pasate por http://www.libranet.com/petition.html ;-) I-hdparm: (0.01) (potato) Mejorando el rendimiento del disco duro con hdparm ATENCION: ¡¡¡Riesgo de corrupción del sistema de archivos!!! MI EJEMPLO: Hay algunas placas en las que el uso de la IRQ de los discos duros no está soportada por el kernel 2.2 (como mi ASUS ATX para K6) y no puedo activar el modo DMA, pero si que puedo activar la transferencia IO de 32 bit incrementando la tasa de transferencia un 43% y el modo multisector, incrementando otro 25%, total incremento = 80% ¿No está mal, no? 1) Instalar el paquete hdparm 2) Medir (y anotar) la tasa de transferencia actual para comparar hdparm -t /dev/hda 3) Ver información del HD hdparam -I /dev/hda * Aqui veremos: - El máximo número de sectores para el modo multisector - El máximo modo UltraDMA soportado 4) Mirar los ajustes actuales del HD hdparam -v /dev/hda 5) Activar la transferencia IO de 32 bits (+43% mejora) Esto permite transferir 32 bits en lugar de 16 bits en las operaciones de IO hdparm -c1 /dev/hda 6) Activar modo multisector (Modo Bloque IDE) (+%25 mejora) Esto permite transferir más de un sector por interrupción -El máximo aparece como MaxMultSect=16 al hacer hdparm -i /dev/hda- hdparm -m16 /dev/hda 7) Activar el DMA (no puedo activarlo, pero me admite la opción) *Esto no tiene por que mejorar la tasa de transferencia, pero descarga la CPU* hdparm -d1 /dev/hda 8) Activar el modo UltraDMA4 (64 + modo 4 = 68), por defecto es modo 2 -A mi no me da incremento, pero puede ser porque no me funciona el DMA- hdparm -X68 /dev/hda 9) Permitir otras interrupciones durante las interrupciones del HD Esto aumenta muchisimo la velocidad de respuesta del sistema Pero puede causar Corrupción masiva del sistema de archivos en algunos sistemas (algunas combinaciones de disco/controladora) hdparm -u1 /dev/hda # PROBAR CON SUMO CUIDADO 10) Haz pruebas intensivas (compila un kernel ;-) para asegurarte de que los ajustes que has fijado son estables en tu sistema. Si no vienen activados por defecto en las distribuciones es por algún motivo... 11) Hacer que los ajustes se mantengan tras la secuencia de recuperación de errores del HD. Atención haz esto solo cuando estés seguro de que los ajustes que usas son estables, ya que los errores no reestablecerán la configuración por defecto (más segura) hdparm -k1 /dev/hda 12) Hacer que se ejecute el comando en cada arranque - Añadir a /etc/rc.boot un script con (en mi caso): ---8--- #! /bin/sh # Ajustes para incrementar la tasa de transferencia del HD # # -c1 = IO 32 bits # -m16 = Modo multisector (16 sectores) # -d1 = DMA # -X68 = Modo UltraDMA (64 + modo 4 = 68) # -u1 = Permitir otras interrupciones durante las de HD *MUCHO CUIDADO* # -k1 = Mantener los ajustes tras un error de HD hdparm -c1 -m16 -d1 -u1 /dev/hda# Durante unos dias # hdparm -c1 -m16 -d1 -u1 -k1 /dev/hda # Cuando veamos que es estable ---8--- - Darle permisos de ejecución al script OTRAS OPCIONES: a) Activar el buffer de escritura del drive IDE (normalmente OFF) No me gusta, si haces esto el ejecutar un sync no tiene porque hacer lo que le pides, y además ya tenemos caché de escritura en el kernel ¿no? hdparm -W1 /dev/hda # NO LO RECOMIENDO b) Hacer que el disco sea de sólo lectura (curioso...) hdparm -r1 /dev/hda # ---NO LO HE PROBADO--- c) hdparm tiene opciones de control de energía, puedes mirarlo en la página man (man hdparm) AGRADECIMIENTOS: A TooManySecrets por su mensaje inicial a la lista de correo de aguila, que he utilizado como base y ampliado (Gracias TooMany ;-) MAS INFO: man hdparm
Re: Paquetes corregidos.
Hola!!! On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:54:40PM +0100, Luis Cabrera Sauco wrote: deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free La realmente importante desde el punto de vista de la seguridad es como indica el nombre del host, la última. Cierto la última línea es la importante. Pero creo que falta algún que otro detalle ...: # Seguridad para Debian Potato deb http://security.debian.org/ potato updates/main updates/contrib updates/non-free Vale, yo he actualizado esta noche mi potato y me ha parcheado la libc6. Pero, si la libc6 está en uso, somo se lo monta para actualizarla? Saludos. Juan Miguel Mora
man ftpd
Hola!!! He instalado el paquete ftpd, pero no trae man y necesitaria crear un ftp anonimo. Es un fallo del paquete, por que no viene? Saludos!!! Juan Miguel Mora
Frames de los MPEG
Hola... ¿Alguien sabe de algun programa que venga con debian para extraer los frames de un mpg a archivos sueltos (por ejemplo a JPGs)? Si no sabeis de uno que venga con debian me podria servir cualquier otro para linux en general o bien uno para güindoz. Gracias
Re: QUE CONVIENE
On sep/08/2000, Carlos López wrote: potente. Mi recomendación es que para cargas muy altas de correo uses sendmail, cargas medias qmail y si optas por seguridad total pues postfix. Para cargas altas el mejor es zmailer, sin duda. ...King Of Ffm. Nasty Django. 1993 --- Mutt 1.2 + Sendmail 8.9.3 * Origin: FAQ de R34.LINUX: http://www.linuxfreak.com/~r34_linux (2:346/3.68)
Re: man ftpd
Saludos. http://www.thekix.com/ en la seccion de comos lo tienes. Un saludo. On sáb, 09 sep 2000, Juanmi escribió: Hola!!! He instalado el paquete ftpd, pero no trae man y necesitaria crear un ftp anonimo. Es un fallo del paquete, por que no viene? Saludos!!! Juan Miguel Mora -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ___ __ __ __ | |/ / / /\/ / Rodolfo García Peñas | / / / /\ / http://www.hispalinux.es/~kix | \ \/ / / \ http://www.thekix.com | |\ \/ / /\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Register Linux User 62951. Debian 2.2 Kernel 2.4.0-test7 ... Pensamos demasiado y sentimos muy poco ... Charlie Chaplin, 1940
Re: Ayuda muy novata
Quien:Kion_ Cuando: viernes, 08 de septiembre del 2000, a las 08:47, Qué: Ayuda muy novata Saludos a todos, otra vez me dirijo a ustedes con la finalidad de pedir su gran ayuda. Ultimamente he tratado de configurar el servidor XF86Free y nada, no he tenido la posibilidad de lograr nada, ya me he leido el HOWTO y varios documentos que estan en Inet, sin obtener ningun resultado favorable. Asi que, si no es mucha molestia, alguien de la lista me podria enviar su archivo de configuracion de XF86Free, si no es mucho pedir que sea el mas generico. AHH!!, no se nada sobre el hardware, por la simple razon de que la computadora anteriormente era de mi hermano y como el siempre ha utilizado WIndows, se acostumbro y bato todos los manuales, pero la tarjeta de Video, creo que viene con el motherboard. Saludos y Gracias!!! En el paquete 'xserver-common' viene una utilidad llamada 'SuperProbe'. La descripción de esta utilidad es la siguiente: SuperProbe - probe for and identify installed video hardware. Instala el paquete 'xserver-common' y ejecuta 'Superprobe'. Tambien tienes el paquete 'xviddetect', cuya descripción es la siguiente: xviddetect - a script for detecting PCI video cards Es decir, que con esta utilidad, si tu tarjeta es PCI la podrás detectar tranquilamente... A partir de saber los datos de la tarjeta, la configuración la puedes hacer por al menos dos vias: -. XF86Setup -. xf86config La primera es una utilidad gráfica, que se encuentra en el paquete 'xf86setup'. Para poder ejecutarla, te hace falta como mínimo tener instalado tambien el paquete 'xserver-vga16'. Una vez que tienes los dos paquetes instalados, puedes empezar la instalación ejecutando el programa 'XF86Setup' La segunda utilidad es más independiente, aparte de ser una utilidad en modo texto. Sin embargo, es la que menos me falla ;) 'xf86config' viene en 'xserver-common', por lo que ya deberías tenerla instalada. Ejecuta 'xf86config' y vete contestando las preguntas que te va a ir haciendo. Solamente te faltarían los datos del monitor, pero en este tema lo único que te puedo aconsejar es que vayas probando frecuencias de menos a más. Recuerda que no es bueno poner una frecuencia de refresco muy alta al monitor, ya que incluso podrías llegar a estropearlo. Empieza por frecuencias de refresco pequeñas :) Cuando tengas los datos de la tarjeta, podrías probar a ver si alguien tiene la misma tarjeta, para enviarte un archivo de configuración que te pueda valer ... Suerte ;) -- Mi frase del dia: #--# It's faster horses, Younger women, Older whiskey and More money. -- Tom T. Hall, The Secret of Life #--# =8= ___ _ / ___|_ _| (_) ___ Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias | | _| | | | | |/ __| Pasate por nuestro web | |_| | |_| | | | (__ http://www.gulic.org/ \|\__,_|_|_|\___| Clave GPG en las paginas de Gulic Clave GPG en search.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = F734 17F5 3AB6 E1F6 11C4 B498 5B3E FEDF 90DF =8= pgpC9qG654awD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Marcar mensajes en mutt
Estoy haciendo algunas pruebas con mutt para leer el correo y, usando el formato maildir, al entrar en un buzon, marca en rojo todos los mensajes nuevos que hay en el directorio new, pero al salir de mutt y volver a mirar ese buzon, los mensajes nuevos siguen marcados como nuevos, pero ya no estan de color rojo, sino de color blanco como los otros, aunque siguen marcados como NO leidos (tal y como debe ser) La cuestion es: ¿Como le digo al mutt que me marque los mensajes como no leidos, a parte de con o, mostrandolos de un color diferente? Gracias por vuestra atencion _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Problemas al recibir correo
Muchas gracias por vuestra ayuda, ya esta todo solucionado. El exim reescribiendo cabeceras y el fetchmail arreglado, el problema era que en el fichero de configuracion puse pol servidor en lugar de poll :P Gracias otra vez por vuestra atencion _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: man ftpd
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 11:21:19AM +0200, Juanmi wrote: Hola!!! He instalado el paquete ftpd, pero no trae man y necesitaria crear un ftp anonimo. Te recomiendo que instales el paquete bsd-ftpd de woody. Es el mismo ftpd pero actualizado. Sí, la situación es estúpida... -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, aka Oskuro in|| [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Using Debian GNU/Linux Reinos de Leyenda || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://debian.org http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpsFmcfUmMAL.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Analizar Log de SMTP.
Hola! Queria hacer la siguiente consulta: Si yo quiero hacer un programa en C que procese on-line un archivo de LOG que se esta generando continuamente... como tengo que hacer el ciclo de lectura y/o como hago para que siempre este ejecutando. No se si me explique bien... pero la idea es analizar el log de un SMTP Gracias!!!
Re: Frames de los MPEG
Quien:pookie Cuando: sábado, 09 de septiembre del 2000, a las 11:26, Qué: Frames de los MPEG Hola... ¿Alguien sabe de algun programa que venga con debian para extraer los frames de un mpg a archivos sueltos (por ejemplo a JPGs)? Si no sabeis de uno que venga con debian me podria servir cualquier otro para linux en general o bien uno para güindoz. Con la versión 1.1.17 del Gimp lo puedes hacer ... Si no recuerdo mal, está en 'Animation' .. Gracias -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Mi frase del dia: #--# There's nothing wrong with teenagers that reasoning with them won't aggravate. #--# pgp33bLf5Nxsf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problemas con los módulos en potato
Hola! Tengo un problema con los módulos en potato: cuando el sistema arranca carga *todos* los módulos en /lib/modules. Como yo mantengo dos versiones del kernel (una estable y una inestable), pues me genera una larguísima lista de errores. En slink esto no pasaba, solo se cargaban los módulos que yo quería y podía hacer que se cargaran bajo demanda ¿fue por los cambios al modutils? Si alguien puede echarme una mano, gracias. Camilo Alejandro Arboleda P.S. ¿Alguien ha probado el KDE de corel? -- * De simio la conoci y he visto hombres que la añoran. * En lo que a mi se refiere, ni entonces ni ahora * perdi mi libertad. Informe para una academia. Franz Kafka
Re: Analizar Log de SMTP.
El Sat, 09 Sep 2000 13:29:36 Pablo Sabatino escribió: Hola! Queria hacer la siguiente consulta: Si yo quiero hacer un programa en C que procese on-line un archivo de LOG que se esta generando continuamente... como tengo que hacer el ciclo de lectura y/o como hago para que siempre este ejecutando. No se si me explique bien... pero la idea es analizar el log de un SMTP Puedes hacerlo en C, pero te recomiendo hacerlo en perl. El perl tiene un modo de lectura que hace exactamente lo que tu quieres (leer del archivo a medida que este se genera). Además está hecho para este tipo de tareas. En internet (en perl.com) puedes conseguir varios tutoriales en línea. Suerte, Camilo Alejandro Arboleda. Gracias!!! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
NETSCAPE
All Estou tendo problemas para executar o netscape. Quando vou executar o netscape aparece a seguinte mensagem : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/netscape# ./netscape ./netscape: error in loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory A primeira coisa que eu fui ver eh se eu havia instalado a biblioteca. E vi que sim, dpkg -l ii libstdc++2.10 2.95.2-13 The GNU stdc++ library ii libstdc++2.10- 2.95.2-13 The GNU stdc++ library (debugging files) ii libstdc++2.10- 2.95.2-13 The GNU stdc++ library (development files) Fui no historico da lista linux-br e vi que varias pessoas tambem estavam com problemas nessa biblioteca, mas nao encontei nenhuma solucao. Por acaso alguem conseguiu resolver o problema ?!?! [ ]'s Cosmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackhour.com.br Hack Hour Inc.
Re: david the gnome - with yet another non-Debian question?
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:11:11AM -0500, Will Trillich wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:27:32PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: ... this has nothing to do with Debian! Why aren't all these non-Debian specific questions filling my mailbox sent to where they ought to be sent? Why is debian-user full of Netscape bookmarks [snip] 4) with apt-get, you expect /debian/ users to have trouble? :) E? I don't know what that means. -3) debian-user still is unmoderated, so folks like s.lamb get through :) I didn't mean to single anyone out. His off-topic question was just another in a very long line of others just like it or worse. so maybe we need a new list [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd go for a debian-user_moderated in a heartbeat. My real complaint is that I don't have time to wade through ca. 200 mails a day from this group. I'm trying to learn something from comp.lang.perl.misc too, and fulfill a contract for a client. Hitting d 200 times just to pare down debian-user is a waste. I'd like to continue on the list, but the price is enormous considering my limited amount of free time. Most of these questions should be going to comp.os.linux.*, but everyone's terrified of spammers nowadays so they avoid Usenet. I take great joy in hunting down and reporting spammers (it's educational!), so I have no qualms about posting to Usenet. If your question is Debian specific, or even closely related to Debian or .deb packages or how Debian packages are configured, debian-user is the right place to be. If your problem is (eg.) that your mouse isn't detected correctly by XFree86 or gpm is clashing with X, then you shouldn't be posting to debian-user. That's not a Debian question, it's a generic Linux related question, hence comp.os.linux.* My C$0.02 ... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software Serv. Enquire within. [sed 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum. Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
Re: dpkg binary dbase (was Re: Debian vs. Red Hat)
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:26:16PM +0200, Juli-Manel Merino Vidal wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:37:03PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Bruce Sass writes: I want to be able to manually add and edit entries in the DB (i.e., given I'm not convinced that you can write a special bin editor that you can guarantee will be able to fix all the ways that a bin database could get screwed up. The bin editor could be just a simple conversion program from the binary to the text mode one, then edit the file, and at last, reconvert to the binary mode. Having read all this, I'm not convinced it would be a bad idea. I come from Hasler's point of view too, and am not convinced it could/should be done. There's a reason why every Unix box on the planet has some kind of vi available in single user mode. That said, it's also true that a good database leverages a lot of power, in ways that most people don't really get 'til it's explained to them. If the integrity is maintained, things become damn near magical once things begin to scale. I'd say play with it, see what you can come up with, how you can bullet proof it, and what its failure modes are. comp.risks' archives may help ... Besides, ASCII is just yet another code/binary format. Designed for human readability, yes, but tell that to an illiterate teenager ... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software Serv. Enquire within. [sed 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum. Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
Re: Wierd messages during bootup...
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:51:52PM -0700, Daly Gutierrez wrote: Hi again, everyone. I forgot to mention that after compiling my new kernel, I now get many modules-related error messages. If I remember correctly, I did the following: make mrproper (cleaned everything right out) make xconfig make dep make clean (don't know if this was really necessary, since I'd done 'make mrproper') make bzImage (didn't notice any errors, I don't think) make modules make modules_install copied bzImage to the boot directory (renamed) and ran 'lilo' rebooted Look into kernel-package. I saw a whole screen-full of *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/module name.o I believe this has to do with not mv'ing your /lib/modules. to /lib/modules..old before make modules (make modules_install?). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software Serv. Enquire within. [sed 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum. Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:50:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir/Madam Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box storage limit has exceeded. Is everyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or is it just me? I assume it will eventually be noticed by the list admin? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software Serv. Enquire within. [sed 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum. Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
Wingman Mouse
I have a Logitech Wingman gaming mouse that I can't figure out how to get the 3rd or middle button to work. When I ran redhat, it got probed and configured automatically so I don't know what made it work. I've tried the emulate 3rd button in the XF86Setup and that did not work. Paul
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:57:09PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:50:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir/Madam Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box storage limit has exceeded. Is everyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or is it just me? I assume it will eventually be noticed by the list admin? It's not just you, and, considering the offending mail server is broken and sending bounces to the 'From:' value instead of the envelope sender, only people who post will get bounces, not the mailing list server itself, so it will be unable to autoremove the offending address. -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:03:42PM -0700, brian moore wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:57:09PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:50:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir/Madam Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box storage limit has exceeded. Is everyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or is it just me? I assume it will eventually be noticed by the list admin? It's not just you, and, considering the offending mail server is broken and sending bounces to the 'From:' value instead of the envelope sender, only people who post will get bounces, not the mailing list server itself, so it will be unable to autoremove the offending address. and heres the procmail recipe to get rid of them once and for all: :0 * ^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpzePGwWjWop.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:18:41PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote: and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) does red-hat have anything comparable? I think Redhat has something called rpm-update, but I have never tried it. That service you have to pay for, I think. There is something called rpm-find, which kinda works the same way as apt-get, i.e. it searches and downloads a package. Again, never tried it, so really don't know how it works. The big difference, AFAIK, is that Debian store a lot more packages. With Redhat, you can get the base install (that comes with the CD), but for the rest, you would have to go for third-party sources. Not a big deal, since when I used Redhat, I made it a habit to go to the developers website and downloaded directly. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 pgpdFCTlw1LlS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt gpg
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:47:06PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: I've been looking into gpg and mutt. I read on the mutt faq to include gpg.rc with my muttrc. Thing is I don't know what they mean include? Does mutt accept #include like c++? I think they mean put the source keyword before the file name, like this: source .gpgrc As a previous note listed I added the set pgp_autosign in the .muttrc already. I think you only need the pgp_autosign. I don't source my gpgrc file, and it seems to be working fine. Using mutt 1.2i (I think, check my x-mailer line). -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 pgpObGz2F6sRw.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Debian VS. Red Hat
and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) does red-hat have anything comparable? The big difference, AFAIK, is that Debian store a lot more packages. With Redhat, you can get the base install (that comes with the CD), but for the rest, you would have to go for third-party sources. The largest difference I know of is the dependency resolution. Maybe Redhat will do this as well. It's pretty neat when I request a package and end up getting 3 dependant packages without having to individually request them. The auto download by itself is very nice. Another major difference between Redhat and Debian is this list. There are some very sharp cookies here who don't mind hanging around even though they end up answering a lot more questions than they ask. I don't know if Redhat has anything comparable. BTW. It's remarkable how similar in functionality windows update is to debian's apt-get. It is more twinkified (which isn't always bad ...) but functionally very similar. It is, of course, limited to Microsoft products. If they were smart, they offer developers support for their packages at the microsoft site. ($$$). Debian already offers this. I think this sort of updating will quickly become as expected as products as shipping on CD. At least I hope it does! OK, Rambling over!
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:05:32PM -0500, Wayne Sitton wrote: OK guys, I think you've gotten off the subject that I needed. Although what you have given me is great, what I need now is kind of like stories of thing that have happened to show why Debian would be better. Or, even links to stories about the benefits of Debian over Red Hat. Well, if you just want anecdotal evidence that Debian is better than RedHat, why not just make it up? Or better yet, just have someone write up a glowing review of Debian on linux.com or slashdot? I always found this kind of zealotry interesting. Preface: I've used RedHat for over 4 years. Just installed Debian last month, and I'm really happy with it. My take on the issue: Linux is Linux and GNU is GNU. I really don't think you can say one distribution of Linux is more secure/stable than another (better is kinda subjective, IMO). Since all distribution uses OSS, a bugfix in one package should find its way into the other distributions pretty quickly (otherwise, the whole idea of OS is a piece of crock). Ask a RedHat user which distribution s/he prefers, and s/he will say RedHat. Same with Debian or Slackware or a dusin other distribution. Besides, does a story about greatness of distribution read on a website or email really make a difference? My reading about how great Slackware is, didn't make me want to switch to it. Frustration with RedHat packagemanagement made me turn away from it, but I tested Debian for a month before I installed it on my main system (installed and reinstalled about three times a week, to get a feel for the system). Now, for something positive. The one thing that really makes me excited about Debian is the packagemanagent system. Yes, dselect has a userinterface from heck, but you can avoid it (just install the base system during installation). Quite frankly, dpkg is so great, I really don't understand why Linux users aren't pushing it harder. It is leaps and bounds better than the competition (rpm). There are no reason, except for political, for not using dpkg in all the distributions out there. That said, Linux is still Linux, and one distribution is as good as the next, IMO. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 pgp2paN4wx3Q6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 02:41:57AM -0400, Paul McHale wrote: BTW. It's remarkable how similar in functionality windows update is to debian's apt-get. It is more twinkified (which isn't always bad ...) but functionally very similar. It is, of course, limited to Microsoft products. Indeed. I have a friend who always whacks on about how great MS is and tries to bait me by talking about how linux sucks. How was totally silenced in his baiting when I told him that Debian could, indeed, automatically get updates for his OS should he want it to. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 02:41:57AM -0400, Paul McHale wrote: The largest difference I know of is the dependency resolution. Maybe Redhat will do this as well. Well, I don't know how dpkg works yet, but rpm is limited by what the author wants. Sometimes it give really frustrating depencies messsages, like saying you missing libxxxedo.so.1. Of course, you don't know which package libxxxedo.so.1 is in, or where to get it because the doc, in most OSS, is non-existent or very bad. This happaned to me during installation of gnucash. I could never get it installed because a) I was missing some key libraries, b) I had no idea where they where, c) if I knew, I was unable to compile them for one reason or another. It's pretty neat when I request a package and end up getting 3 dependant packages without having to individually request them. The auto download by itself is very nice. I think gnorpm and kpackage does it too, but I'm not sure, since I usually do stuff by hand (CLI). -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 pgpTPTg05h5NB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
That is fine for some workstations and very non-critical servers, but otherwise I would never allow cron to run apt-get and just pull down things from security.debian.org. I don't mean to impune the reputation of debian or the security patches and their writers, but on any important production system I would never allow software I had not previously tested in some way to be loaded and run. I'm trying get debian more widely used in my company, the systems we sell are a mixture of solaris, SCO, QNX, os/2 (3 soon to phased out) and even a few NT boxes (ugh). I'm not a developer for those systems, so I have little say in them, but as much as I like debian, I would really hate one of our customer's calling card system, voicemail, etc to stop working for 5 minutes while apt-get loads in an update to the SS7 server. Perhaps the weirdness of one of our progs + the update would hose the box horribly unexpected ways. For workstations and some servers I could see setting up a few sources I manage by hand, and then have cron run apt-get on them. Then as updates, etc come in, one could test them, and if it looks ok, dump it into the appropriate sources, one for manager/sales workstations, customer support workstations, one for developer workstations, and maybe 1 or 2 classes of intranet fileservers, webservers etc. Even for my boxes at home, I run it manually. I've been planning on setting up a local source or 2 like above at home for months now, but I never seem to get around to it. From: Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:18:41 -0500 On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task. Jeff ( A sysadmin) :) Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:- apt-get update apt-get upgrade what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin (with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like # m h dom mo dow 30 3* *1 apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) does red-hat have anything comparable? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Wierd messages during bootup...
Plus you might need to edit /etc/modules. First time I compiled certain drivers into my kernel, which had been modules, that file will then cause the kernel to load modules that no longer exist. It was pretty funny. I thought I had really screwed things up! From: s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Wierd messages during bootup... Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:49:17 -0600 On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:51:52PM -0700, Daly Gutierrez wrote: Hi again, everyone. I forgot to mention that after compiling my new kernel, I now get many modules-related error messages. If I remember correctly, I did the following: make mrproper (cleaned everything right out) make xconfig make dep make clean (don't know if this was really necessary, since I'd done 'make mrproper') make bzImage (didn't notice any errors, I don't think) make modules make modules_install copied bzImage to the boot directory (renamed) and ran 'lilo' rebooted Look into kernel-package. I saw a whole screen-full of *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/module name.o I believe this has to do with not mv'ing your /lib/modules. to /lib/modules..old before make modules (make modules_install?). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software Serv. Enquire within. [sed 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum. Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
installation problems
Howdy all! I've been having some problems installing Debian 2.2. When the installation reaches the point where it is installing the kernel from the rescue disk, it hangs and give one error message actually there are teo error messages that alternate with each further attempt. The error messages are: ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device not configured and ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy anyone have any ideas? Thanks! +--+---+ |John E. Holeman | OSU Computer Science| |754-3450 |OSU Atmospheric Science| +--+---+ |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |www.orst.edu/~holemanj|[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +--+---+ |Are you pondering what I'm pondering? | +--+
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
-Original Message- From: Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: 09 September 2000 04:17 Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task. Jeff ( A sysadmin) :) Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:- apt-get update apt-get upgrade what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin (with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like # m h dom mo dow 30 3* *1 apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade Two reasons: 1 Our customers do not arrive at nice even intervals but mainly while we have active live coverage and when the machines are busy it is a bad plan to apt-get anything. 2 Because Cron very rarely reads the messages that new install scripts write. Thus when the way that a package works has been changed I wouldn't know what it had said. At other times you actually need to decide how to respond and the option to just press yes may result in a machine that doesn't allow remote logins and I am 11,000 miles away from some of my servers. My brain isvery small, however my computers' brains are smaller still! and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian) does red-hat have anything comparable? Even if it did since the security fixes are sometimes posted months (or in the case of one exploit attempted on one of our servers which had been blocked well over a year previously on Debian but was still viable on Red Hat) years later on Red Hat so it wouldn't be wrth doing. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: kde or gnome?
On 5 Sep 00 19:05:33 GMT, Felix Natter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namely, Gnome does not include its own window manager; KDE does. Gnome depends on hooks for Gnome support compiled into an external window manager, and at present the only window manager with full support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'. sawfish is now called the official GNOME wm (although you can still change). icewm also fully supports GNOME. It's likely the lightest-weight of the three. Now, if only someone would do a MicroGUI theme for icewm... checks icewm.themes.org oh, silly me. Frank
console-apt and absolute paths
Hi, everytime I try to install something with console-apt (and aptitude) I get the message Package manager (dpkg) failed: * Internal Error, Pathname to install is not absolute 'bash-doc_2.03-6_all.deb' apt-get install pkg works. Greetings Christoph
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:18:41PM -0500, Will Trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task. Jeff ( A sysadmin) :) Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:- apt-get update apt-get upgrade what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin (with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like # m h dom mo dow 30 3* *1 apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade A cronned apt-get upgrade might be a bit much, and I myself only do apt-get update apt-get upgrade --download-only. This parks updates in /var/cache/apt/archives, but doesn't install packages until requested manually by me on the command line. Because Debian packages may require manual intervention at install time (this is a Good Thing, dammit!), this still automates the tedious and slow portions of a system upgrade. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgptiuy82AWnL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: A cronned apt-get upgrade might be a bit much, and I myself only do apt-get update apt-get upgrade --download-only. This parks updates in /var/cache/apt/archives, but doesn't install packages until requested manually by me on the command line. Now this is a good idea (though actually for webservers tthe downloading is rarely slow, except for ones in India!!!) I shall try this on a few, thanks! Jeff Because Debian packages may require manual intervention at install time (this is a Good Thing, dammit!), this still automates the tedious and slow portions of a system upgrade. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: pppd changes permission to /dev/ttyS1 (my modem)
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, John Hasler wrote: Piotrek writes: So say how it should be, but don't say me how i should do it. When you ask for free help on a mailing list or newsgroup you get the answers people see fit to give you. Statements such as this just might result in someone who could answer your questions deciding to ignore you You're right. If i didn't wrote my mail at 1 am, i think i would use other words. I read his mail once more and it looks different than yesterday (or rather todays night) But let me quote: Debian has to be built for people who *do* care, so advice that compromises security is not to be welcomed here For me it says sth like this: Debian is only for users who care about security, so if you don't, we don't want you here. I hope others don't think like that. This irritated me, which influenced on the tone of my post. -- Piotrek irc: #Debian.pl GPG fingerprint: 13ED DF91 6DF9 A440 2D78 F657 3579 2D3D DDBD DEFD GPG public key : http://pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl/~piotr/public.asc
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
Add to that that if you apt-move it afterwards, you can get your own partial upgrade repository (even on CD)! Jeff Green wrote: kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: A cronned apt-get upgrade might be a bit much, and I myself only do apt-get update apt-get upgrade --download-only. This parks updates in /var/cache/apt/archives, but doesn't install packages until requested manually by me on the command line. Now this is a good idea (though actually for webservers tthe downloading is rarely slow, except for ones in India!!!) I shall try this on a few, thanks! Jeff Because Debian packages may require manual intervention at install time (this is a Good Thing, dammit!), this still automates the tedious and slow portions of a system upgrade. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:03:38PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? An older version of MI/X? Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? -- Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Speak softly and own a big, mean Doberman. -- Dave Millman
Re: slightly OT: short in video?
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:32:18PM -0700, Ron Farrer wrote: [video problems] If this is the problem, what would be the best way of fix it? FYI the video is integrated on the motherboard, so simply replacing it won't work. :( Or is the sucker toast? A videocard onboard in a 486-system? Well, you just could get an old ISA or PCI-card and run the system with this. Maybe have to turn off the video-card in the BIOS. Phil
Re: Debian on Dell?
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:11:21PM -0500, Jay Ford wrote: Can anybody verify that Debian runs on a Dell Precision 420? Debian runs on about everything ;) It has an integrated dual-channel (Ultra 160 Ultra Wide) SCSI controller. Does Debian support it? Which vendor? There are several video cards to choose from: Diamond Viper V770D, 32 MB Elsa Synergy Force nVIDIA GeForce 2 GTS, 32MB DDR Matrox G400 Max, 32 MB (dual monitor capable) Gloria II Pro, AGP Pro 4x, 64 MB Does Debian support any or all of them? I intend to do rather basic X stuff on Linux common PC-ish stuff on NT/Win2000. Any recommendation on which video cards to prefer or avoid? What do you want to do with it? AFAIK the Matrox is not the first choice for playing 3D-games but great for 2D-performane (large resolutions, great signal-quality). More fundamentally, is there a better Dell system to use for Linux NT/Win2000 in a home sort of context? It just depends on what you want to do with the system. I prefer building my system myself so I can pick the best components for my needs. Phil
Re: logging interaction between minicom and modem - solved
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:11:13 PST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, that's odd I tried to set up wvdial just now and it's saying that /dev/mouse is linked to ttyS0, and sure enough it does seem to could this be causing some of my problems? Is that something that's safe to manually unlink or is there probably some program that set that that I should have a chat with I know I have gpm running, is that likely to have done it? The odd thing is I don't even use a serial mouse, I use a bus mouse so it doesn't seem to make sense to have /dev/mouse pointing to a serial port does it? anyways, if this sets off any lights or rings any bells for anyone, please share :) -Alice yep, that was it. rm /dev/mouse and now chat's a happy camper -Alice - This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com - Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com
German keys on console
To: Cc: Bcc: Subject: Reply-To: I just installed debian, potato, on a new comp. Now I cannot use the German keys a u s (latex-babel notation) neither on the console nor with X. I've choosen qwertz-nodeadkeys at installation and several time with kbdconfig. Curiously the z and y keys are changed. I thought about missing console fonts, but even on X they don't work. Thanks for any hints... Peter
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
I've received one.. s. keeling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:50:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir/Madam Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box storage limit has exceeded. Is everyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or is it just me? I assume it will eventually be noticed by the list admin?
Re: please help updating calendar
On Sep 08, Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their list is much more comprehensive than mine, but mine contains far more detail. So it's worth merging them, but I'm not quite sure how you'd like to do this. There is also the implicit assumption in their If there are no fixed events then everything should go in the yearly files. calendar that the user is Orthodox and living outside of Israel, neither of which need be true. Maybe we should have more than one calendar? -- ciao, Marco
exim and local MX records
Does exim have a setting similar to relay_domains_include_local_mx, but for local delivery instead of just relaying? I host services for a couple groups, and one of them now wants to augment its .org domain with the corresponding .com and .net. I, being lazy, would like to be able to set this up by just adding a few more zone files, but it's looking like I'll also have to change my exim.conf to... local_domains = localhost:sherohman.org:*.sherohman.org:foo.org:*.foo.org: bar.org:*.bar.org:bar.com:*.bar.com:bar.net:*.bar.net ...and then keep expanding it if/when I start getting other domains under my control. -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: kde or gnome?
Ian Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/09/2000 (10:38) : Read the quote again. I wrote the only wm with _full_ support etc. If sawfish is Most integrated, the others are necessarily less integrated, or not? I don't want the wm and the desktop to step over each other, and that's precisely what happens with wmaker when the wmaker frills and the desktop frills overlap. I don't know that sawfish are missing anything. Sawfish is the default WM for Gnome now and is more integrated than E. Luckily they droppped the bloated Enlightenment for something much better! about, too. I am sure many of the wm's have better Gnome support now in their bleeding edge versions, but I will not use them. You should use sawfish then. -- Preben Randhol - Ph.D student - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ i too once thought that when proved wrong that i lost somehow - i was hoping, alanis morisette
Re: kde or gnome?
Felix Natter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/09/2000 (13:02) : Sawfish is highly scriptable via lisp, so it probably isn't fast, either. It is faster than the default Enlightenment at least. Neither does it require that you have the latest video card with Open-GL and 128Mb RAM. -- Preben Randhol - Ph.D student - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ i too once thought that when proved wrong that i lost somehow - i was hoping, alanis morisette
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
Jonathan Markevich said: Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? The Win32 vncserver serves the current display. (It essentially tricks Windows into thinking the remote user is sitting at the console.) The *nix vncserver functions as an X session and is not tied to the local display. -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: audio/x--mp3 and other associatetions
I'm pretty new to this so take my advice accordingly: In netscape you would go to edit-preferences-Navigator-applications Click on the 'Applications' selection from the menu. Click 'New' Description - MPEG URL MIMEType - audio/x-mpegurl Suffixes - m3u Select the 'Application' radio button and enter 'xmms %s' Of course be sure and substitute freeamp for xmms. Hope this helps qMark Simos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: how do I make freeamp run and play the song i double click on? I am not sure if this is app specific or shell/os/xdm/gdm specific is it much different to make mozilla open a html file? Thanks! Mark
Re: exim and local MX records
Dave Sherohman said: Does exim have a setting similar to relay_domains_include_local_mx, but for local delivery instead of just relaying? I host services for a couple groups, and one of them now wants to augment its .org domain with the corresponding .com and .net. I, being lazy, would like to be able to set this up by just adding a few more zone files, but it's looking like I'll also have to change my exim.conf to... local_domains = localhost:sherohman.org:*.sherohman.org:foo.org:*.foo.org: bar.org:*.bar.org:bar.com:*.bar.com:bar.net:*.bar.net ...and then keep expanding it if/when I start getting other domains under my control. Answering my own question... After digging through the exim docs, I added self = local to the lookuphost router and it seems to work. The FAQ didn't mention this option (instead saying that you should have local_hosts do a lookup in an external file if you're handling mail for many domains), so I'm a little concerned about using it. Is setting self to local a bad idea for some reason? -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Psion S5
I have a Psion S5 and would like to mount it on my potato box, which sould be more elegant than minicom/Comms single file ymodem transfers. p3nfsd should do, but I can't get it to work. I simply don't understand the documentation. I'm even unsure if I would have to install nfs in order to use p3nfsd or not? There is no nfsc5.app around (why?), will I have to compile it myself? I would have to get the sources and the Psion C SDK, wouldn't I? Are there any alternatives to p3nfs? Any help will be appreciated! -- Andre
hdparm
Hi, Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d be appropriate?) Thanks, Jamie
Family proofing a Debian box
This is a general question for the list. I have a computer at home that I want to make availble for the family to use. However I want to try and ensure that they won't be able to do anything that could cause damage to the OS. What is the list's thoughts regarding what should I make sure is off-limits to the users. If they don't have root, are there things that I should make off-limits that might not be on a stock Debian 2.2 system? Thanks, Bryan
Re: German keys on console
The keymap that should be loaded is /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz Normally with kbdconfig you can browse through the directory of /usr/share/keymaps/ and choose the one you need. If you are using console-tools after the installation it should get your /etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz (Analogously with kbd -- /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz, I think) To get a german keymap for X you you could use a tool like XF86Setup or xf86config I just installed debian, potato, on a new comp. Now I cannot use the German keys a u s (latex-babel notation) neither on the console nor with X. I've choosen qwertz-nodeadkeys at installation and several time with kbdconfig. Curiously the z and ykeys are changed. sorry for that question: Did you hit qwerty when you were asked for qwertz or qwerty? It's a bit funny, because you must hit the wrong to get the right one ... Thanks for any hints... Peter Over here are some german debian-gurus, so hopefully you problem will get solved ... A humble literary critic, enthusaistic about debian, but still only enthusiastic ... MH -- (Dr.) Michael Hummel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fprint = F24D EAC6 E3D7 372C 9122 D510 EB24 01CA 0B56 B518 key: http://www.seitung.net/key pgpueeWOBbvZE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian for kids
Hi, Somebody would know to say me where can find information about the Debian for kids project ? I would like to install it so that my son uses Linux since small :) Thanks Leonardo Dutra Porto Alegre -RS - Brazil
a pb w/ restrict rules in diald
Hi, when i use restrict rules to make the line available from 7am to 2pm, i have this problem : the line can't be setted up beetween 7am and 2pm if u mind take a look at my /etc/diald/standard.filter file i would appreciate ... is it a bug in woody diald version ? ... i gonna feel bad in can't stoping to ask u things / till i can ask to someone else i do so :) here is my standard.filter file : (the same as previous standard.filter which works plus restrict rule (i've puted the last restrict * * * * * which wasn't there the first time i've tried - thought it was not necessary) # This is a pretty complicated set of filter rules. restrict 07:00:00 * * * * or-restrict * 02:00:00 * * * # Rules for TCP packets. # accept tcp 15 tcp.syn accept tcp 60 tcp.syn accept tcp 5 ip.tot_len=40,tcp.syn ignore tcp ip.tot_len=40,tcp.live accept tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.www accept tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.www accept tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.https accept tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.https keepup tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.https keepup tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.https keepup tcp 5 !tcp.live ignore tcp !tcp.live accept tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.ftp accept tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.ftp accept tcp 120 tcp.dest=tcp.ftp-data accept tcp 120 tcp.source=tcp.ftp-data accept tcp 600 any # Rules for UDP packets # webmin ignore udp udp.dest=udp.1 ignore udp udp.dest=udp.who ignore udp udp.source=udp.who ignore udp udp.dest=udp.route ignore udp udp.source=udp.route ignore udp udp.dest=udp.ntp ignore udp udp.source=udp.ntp ignore udp udp.dest=udp.timed ignore udp udp.source=udp.timed ignore udp udp.dest=udp.domain,udp.source=udp.domain # acces internet (d'abord par udp : recherche de domaine) accept udp 30 udp.dest=udp.domain accept udp 30 udp.source=udp.domain # ignore udp udp.dest=udp.domain # ignore udp udp.source=udp.domain # windaub ignore udp udp.dest=udp.netbios-ns ignore udp udp.source=udp.netbios-ns ignore udp udp.dest=udp.netbios-dgm ignore udp udp.source=udp.netbios-dgm # accept udp 30 udp.dest=udp.netbios-ns # accept udp 30 udp.source=udp.netbios-ns # ignore udp tcp.dest=udp.route # ignore udp tcp.source=udp.route accept udp 120 any ignore igmp any ignore ospfigp any accept any 30 any restrict * * * * * down
Re: hdparm
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:44:15AM -0500, Jamie Raymond wrote: Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d be appropriate?) Perhaps /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh? Otherwise, just create your own script from /etc/init.d/skeleton and run update-rc.d. HTH Sven -- I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
multiple SMTP servers with exim
Hello, I'd like exim to send my mail via more than one smarthost as I am using several providers and every provider has its own SMTP server that accepts mails only when logged in by `his' provider. I have tried to set route_list in /etc/exim.conf to * first.server:second.server bydns_a Now when I use the second provider exim first tries to send the mails via first.server and gets an error message. Instead of trying second.server exim just assumes that the mail is undeliverable. Any ideas how to solve this? Thanks, Christoph
highlight *.cc files as *.cpp in xemacs
How to get the same syntax highlight for *.cc files as for the *.cpp files (default) in XEmacs? Thanks Attila -- -- - Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian 2.2 Linux / 2.2.13 / exim- - Get my PGP key: gpg --keyserver keys.pgp.com --recv-key 0x2cc33acb -
Re: Family proofing a Debian box
Bryan K. Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If they don't have root, are there things that I should make off-limits that might not be on a stock Debian 2.2 system? I don't know how technically sophisticated your family is but I assume that your sister is not a cracker and your father not a Unix-guru. Denying them root access should be fully sufficient. This works fine with my family at least - everyone has his/her own account and may play at will. Even if they were root they wouldn't know how to damage something. :-) Anyways _if_ you'd like to have a fully secure system you'd have to think about preventing them from physically accessing the system which you are unlikely to have done. If they can turn off the machine they could damage the file system for example. Christoph
Re: Debian for kids
On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, Leonardo Dutra wrote: Hi, Somebody would know to say me where can find information about the Debian for kids project ? I would like to install it so that my son uses Linux since small :) Maybe not exactly what you were looking for but. http://www.linuxforkids.org/ hth, kent Neurosis is the way of avoiding non-being by avoiding being. - Paul Tillich, American theologian (1886-1965).
c++ compiler problem
I get the following error when I try to compile a short c++ program: --- c++ allvehic.cpp -o voertuig cpp: -lang-c++: linker input file unused since linking not done c++: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory - and the following error when I run configure on wxGTK-sources - checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no checking for c++... c++ checking whether the C++ compiler (c++ ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables. -- $locate cc1plus: -- /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1plus /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cc1plus -- I could compile a kernel not so long ago and do not know what has gone wrong. I hope somebody can help me on this one. Johann. -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082 898 1528(Johann) 082 255 2388(Hester) Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.James 4:7
Re: German keys on console
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:24:55PM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote: The keymap that should be loaded is /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz it is there: Uranus:/home/peter# ls /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de* /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1.kmap.gz /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de.kmap.gz Normally with kbdconfig you can browse through the directory of /usr/share/keymaps/ and choose the one you need. thats what i have done. sveral times, with several latin-1 packages. Everytime the same: The testing works o.k. but the console doesn't want it.. If you are using console-tools after the installation it should get your /etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz (Analogously with kbd -- /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz, I think) It is there: Uranus:/home/peter# ls /etc/kbd/ config default.kmap.gz To get a german keymap for X you you could use a tool like XF86Setup or xf86config Yes, I know. I copied XF86cpnfig from an other installation with the same graf.-card + monitor and it don't work. I also have run XF86Setup again and again, nothing works. Well emacs, at least, works o.k. I don't know why... Peter
Editor for rescue disks/ floppy distros
Everthing's the same except the name. This is a re- post, just for change of thread for reasons as below. Yes, I clean forgot that there are people on our list who are on threaded mail readers .. I posted this on the thread of Joe editor yesterday. Thanks Curt for reminding me. USM Bish On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:58:31AM -0500, Debian Linux User wrote: Thanks for this post. This editor is amazing. With the subject line of the thread I just about missed reading it, however. You might want to make your recommendation about including it on the rescue disks in a separate post. Best regards, Curt Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:24:16PM +0518, USM Bish wrote: The joe editor seems to be rather popular, specially amongst people for whom wordstar keys have got ingrained in their genes. There is another editor called w3, which was introduced to me by some-one on this list. The URL is : http://www.sax.de/~adlibit/e3-0.7.tar.gz [82338 bytes] Have been using it for about 2 weeks now. EXCELLENT !! Just 4912 bytes long binary, written fully in assembly (nasm). Fully GPL (with source code). It is 100% Word Star (non-document) mode clone. Has auto-left align as well (remember TurboPascal 3?). It is definitely not a replacement for emacs / vi, but if wordstar compatibility is what you are looking for, this rivals joe any day. If an editor for rescue disks is what is you need,look no further. THIS IS IT. It would be difficult to find a smaller one with all facilites expected of an editor. USM Bish PS: Binary tarball with man (6080 bytes)! Private mail only.
Re: kde or gnome?
Just a small clarification sought : What exactly is meant by Gnome or KDE compliance ? Is it the capability of running Gnome or KDE apps ? I'm on fvwm2 and blackbox. I've both qt (for KDE) and necessary libs for running gnome apps installed. I am able to run kmail, kedit (and other kde packages), gedit, gxedit, balsa etc. (gnome apps) on both these window managers. I thought all window managers would, if the necessary libs are installed. I notice here confirmation of the same with sawfish and icewm. Am I wrong somewhere and there is more to it ? USM Bish On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:24:40AM +, Frank Copeland wrote: On 5 Sep 00 19:05:33 GMT, Felix Natter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namely, Gnome does not include its own window manager; KDE does. Gnome depends on hooks for Gnome support compiled into an external window manager, and at present the only window manager with full support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'. sawfish is now called the official GNOME wm (although you can still change). icewm also fully supports GNOME. It's likely the lightest-weight of the three. Now, if only someone would do a MicroGUI theme for icewm... checks icewm.themes.org oh, silly me. Frank
Re: Family proofing a Debian box
On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, Christoph Groth wrote: If they don't have root, are there things that I should make off-limits that might not be on a stock Debian 2.2 system? I don't know how technically sophisticated your family is but I assume that your sister is not a cracker and your father not a Unix-guru. Denying them root access should be fully sufficient. This works fine with my family at least - everyone has his/her own account and may play at will. I have the same situation here. My family is far more than trustable enough to be considered non hostile users, so I give them a regular user account. That's all there is to it. Anyways _if_ you'd like to have a fully secure system you'd have to think about preventing them from physically accessing the system which you are unlikely to have done. If they can turn off the machine they could damage the file system for example. Yup. I'd suggest you allow them to CTRL+ALT+DEL (map it to shutdown) the box at any time, no matter how annoying, it's far better than a sudden powerdown. Maybe add a 1 minute delay time (and TELL THEM ABOUT IT or they'll think it didn't work and press the power button anyway :-) ) so as you can hastly log off if you're remotely logged in... If your family qualifies as hostile users (and are not technically inept), you'll have to be paranoid about suid binaries and local root compromises, be very careful about NFS and all sort of other related headaches. You'll need to have a trusted, phisically secure machine hosting all the data (the server), and other machines to act as terminals... You'd be better off getting every one their own private computer, and locking yours up while not in use IMHO :-) -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh pgpbD2Dfp0FkG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: c++ compiler problem
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:58:54PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: I get the following error when I try to compile a short c++ program: --- c++ allvehic.cpp -o voertuig cpp: -lang-c++: linker input file unused since linking not done c++: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory - and the following error when I run configure on wxGTK-sources - checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no checking for c++... c++ checking whether the C++ compiler (c++ ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables. -- $locate cc1plus: -- /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1plus /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cc1plus -- I could compile a kernel not so long ago and do not know what has gone wrong. The kernel is written in C, not C++, so that's irrelevant. I hope somebody can help me on this one. Somehow your gcc installation has gotten messed up. Perhaps you compiled gcc on your own and installed it in /usr/local/bin? If so, you might want to try $ PATH=/usr/bin:$PATH ./configure # or other command which needs g++ to get the default c++ compiler. If that doesn't help, the only thing I could think of is to re-install gcc. Good luck, Chris
Re: German keys on console
thats what i have done. sveral times, with several latin-1 packages.
Everytime the same: The testing works o.k. but the console doesn't want it..
What does that mean?
When configuring the keymap with kbdconfig you hit y after the prompt to load
the german keymap and then at the shell-prompt you can't get ä,ö...?
It is there:
Uranus:/home/peter# ls /etc/kbd/
config default.kmap.gz
There is always one, but has to be the right one
Yes, I know. I copied XF86cpnfig from an other installation with the same
graf.-card + monitor and it don't work. I also have run XF86Setup again and
again, nothing works.
Run XF86Setup from scratch and it should work
Well emacs, at least, works o.k. I don't know why...
?
So it works?
Peter
MH
PS: You could compare (diff) the default.kmap.gz I sent to you, with the old
one
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Re: PGP and Mutt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: If it helps, my .muttrc is attached. Note that I've got gpg, not pgp, installed. I'd recommend you use the same. There is only one tag in my muttrc which appears relevant, that's the pgp_autosign hook. I've got a bit of a followup question. It's regarding verifying or decrypting signed or encrypted messages. I'm having a horrible time getting valid signatures from messages that are signed by mutt's built-in gpg/pgp support. Say I'm using one of the many mailers that doesn't support gpg integration, so I need to save the message and key to disk and use gpg manually to check the signatures. What parts of the message are signed, though??? for example, in Karsten's email, there were 3 message sections: the text, the attached .muttrc, and the gpg sig. So I save the message and key to my home dir, download the key, and run gpg on the key. It asks me for the file name, which I provide. To this it responds that they signature is invalid. I've been trying to send myself signed message with the same results. I've read mutt's included docs, which didn't help me at all. Have you got any suggestions??? I must say, the old style of handling pgp/gpg with the inline sigs and stuff worked much better for me. What are the advantages of sending the key as an attachment instead of inline? Thanks... noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObpsDodCcpBjGWoFAQEv/AQAtwYw0E+lXozbIPzhjzJ5/wjfDqt5OkWA 1zNCpjeYxdapUKM9X6AKeN0BzCIurmGK+V2ML4qGrdoR06cJzemn72EenMCOiFkj H1DvBtyDDb0IKtUpzZFfpmGfDUoRihqW1hMh3lCTFAN9NVbH1m4z23x7WFjnPChr xi6V8F4yfEM= =att+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: hdparm
I worried about this too a few days ago and came to the conclusion that adding a line to an existing script might be unreliable, since package installations may replace said script.. so I added my own script. I then put this script in /etc/rc.boot/, a directory whose infinite mysteries I have yet to explore. -chris On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Sven Burgener wrote: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:44:15AM -0500, Jamie Raymond wrote: Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d be appropriate?) Perhaps /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh? Otherwise, just create your own script from /etc/init.d/skeleton and run update-rc.d. HTH Sven -- I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
/etc/rc.boot
What's the story with /etc/rc.boot/? Is it deprecated? Is it good? Should its files be run by /etc/inittab via /etc/rcS? The contents of my /etc/rc.boot: 0setserial* hdparm* kbd* update-modules* -chris
how to turn off auto-fill-mode in XEmacs21?
Hi, I'd like to turn off the line wrappping (xemacs truncates the long lines at the end of line). I think this is the variable 'auto-fill-mode' but I can't turn it off. How to turn it off? If it possible send me a working .emacs file for XEmacs21. Thanks Attila -- -- - Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian 2.2 Linux / 2.2.13 / exim- - Get my PGP key: gpg --keyserver keys.pgp.com --recv-key 0x2cc33acb -
Re: German keys on console
Dear Vee-Eye, On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 07:05:14PM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote: thats what i have done. sveral times, with several latin-1 packages. Everytime the same: The testing works o.k. but the console doesn't want it.. What does that mean? When configuring the keymap with kbdconfig you hit y after the prompt to load the german keymap and then at the shell-prompt you can't get ä,ö...? Yes, at the time where the testing section works... Here is the output: What keytable to load? de-latin1-nodeadkeys You selected keymap /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz Sorry, I can't make you test this keymap now (showkey does not accept --keymap). NOTE: Answering anything else than 'y', 'n', or RETURN will reload the kernel's default keymap. Do you accept the chosen map for installation ? [y] Removing removing /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz Generating include-less /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz Saving keymap to /tmp/fileBXdCb5 Loading /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz Loading /tmp/fileBXdCb5 Compressing /etc/kbd/default.kmap: 79.2% -- replaced with /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz Do you want changes to take effect right now ? [y] Loading /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz ...but nothing works. There is always one, but has to be the right one I think it is the right map.. Run XF86Setup from scratch and it should work I've done it. I really don't know why it doesn't work.. So it works? Within emacs yes, at an ordinary xterm, no. The same under the console. when is start emacs i can use öäü (i'm writing currently with emacs), but within the console--nothing. I think I need somethink like the emacs20: set-buffer-process-coding-system Thanks for everything Peter
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:41:06AM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: What's the story with /etc/rc.boot/? Is it deprecated? Is it good? Taken from man rc.boot: [snip] The /etc/rc.boot directory is obsolete. It has been super seded by the /etc/rcS.d directory. At boot time, first the /etc/rcS.d directory is scanned and then, for backwards compatibility, the /etc/rc.boot directory. [snip] Should its files be run by /etc/inittab via /etc/rcS? I suggest you place your scripts in /etc/init.d/ and run update-rc.d to create the appropriate links. ** Now I have a question: ** How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? When I do :r! man blabla in vi, I get funny characters at some places. Using man's --ascii option didn't help. Sven -- I can't be wrong, my modem's got error-correction.
X won't start
Just installed 2.2 when it boots it looks like xfs and xdm both start up. When I type startx I get. x: exec of /usr/bin/x11/xf86_svfg failed. I used xf86config to build a config file this is a Diamond Viper 770 and I used the card definition that came with x. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Ray
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 06:30:18 -0700, Dale Morris wrote: I've received one.. Me too. Cam Ellison, Ph.D., R.Psych. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the lovely Sunshine Coast, where it only SEEMS to rain.
LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Can anybody shed some light on the error message above? I get it whenever I run LILO now, and the system won't boot from the hard drive. The only change to this system was a new network card (there are now 2) and the new kernel. The kernel works fine, as I have installed LILO on a floppy and can boot with no trouble. Here are some details: SCSI controller ID is 7 sda SCSI id 0 all other SCSI disks disabled as part of my debugging hda is an IDE HD, no bootable partitions hdb is an IDE CDROM so...what is the first disk? The system used to boot from /dev/sda just fine, and the problem really seems to have something to do with the second network card I added. TIA for the help. noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObqF8IdCcpBjGWoFAQHmOwQAi5WMC8sRz4FzFCSLlCuDIYsHlpNo+bfE gpRFPMycllWsd4y7dSSTC4Sd8/8/2pJX58FjI/n/zqiBLVLydS0fUGwg0druT+0j 8GNbGoztDrXBxha23nUFOJ8DXfbKDjkcyd7Za1GywqHwAORcS2owfpHO5uQH3Xze EecmtT0vNPU= =UxCh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
This is going to suck before they fix this. :) -- Original Message -- From: Cam Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Cam Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 11:52:28 +0800 On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 06:30:18 -0700, Dale Morris wrote: I've received one.. Me too. Cam Ellison, Ph.D., R.Psych. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the lovely Sunshine Coast, where it only SEEMS to rain. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Compile issue with linux-2.4.0-test8 and gcc 2.95.2-14
I sent this one off to the linux-kernel email list as well, but figured that since Debian is the environment I work in, I'd let you have a crack at it. Suggestions? -- ^chewie - Forwarded message from ^chewie [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:23:12 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: ^chewie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Compile issue with test8 and gcc 2.95.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Fingerprint: FABB FE1C E1CD 4DE2 C504 2657 A47E 57BB 37B0 59A0 Actually, I've been having a problem compiling the kernel ever since test7 (test6 compiled fine for me). The errors I see include both segfaults (which I thought might be memory related, but alas no), and the folling parse error: -- ...snip from make bzImage... -- gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=k6 -fno-strict-aliasing-DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c pm.c In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fs.h:189, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:5, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:15, from pm.c:23: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/semaphore.h:98: parse error before character 0177 make[2]: *** [pm.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2 -- Another parse error happens when I try to continue on by re-exec'ing 'make bzImage'... -- ...snip from make bzImage run 2... -- gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=k6 -fno-strict-aliasing-c -o user.o user.c In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/fs.h:609, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/binfmts.h:5, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sched.h:9, from user.c:13: /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sysv_fs_sb.h:20: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sysv_fs_sb.h:20: parse error before character 0177 /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sysv_fs_sb.h:68: parse error before `}' In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/binfmts.h:5, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/sched.h:9, from user.c:13: /usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include/linux/fs.h:656: field `sysv_sb' has incomplete type make[2]: *** [user.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2 -- They don't seem related, but I could find no hidden characters in the header files and could find no syntax errors at first and second glance. I downloaded linux-2.4.0-test8.tar.gz and ..tar.gz.sign earlier this morning and verified the tarball with the signature (success). I'm a bit baffled. I've rarely had problems compiling a kernel, but this is one I can't get past. I'm using Debian's woody dist with gcc 2.95.2-14. On a whim, before I sent this email off, I tried to compile the kernel w/o optimization (I deleted -O2 from Makefile). This is the error I ran in to: -- gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/include -g -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=k6 -fno-strict-aliasing-fno-omit-frame-pointer -c -o sched.o sched.c sched.c: In function `schedule': sched.c:649: Invalid `asm' statement: sched.c:649: fixed or forbidden register 6 (bp) was spilled for class GENERAL_REGS. make[2]: *** [sched.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0-test8/kernel' make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2 -- Might this have something to do with it? -- Chad ^chewie, gunnarr Walstrom [EMAIL
Where/what is net-pf-18?
I got this error message in syslog: Can't locate module net-pf-18. Anyone know what this is? Would it have something to do with the fact that I cannot ping my kids' machine any more? (nor vice versa, even though ping seems to work within both systems. TIA Cam Cam Ellison, Ph.D., R.Psych. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the lovely Sunshine Coast, where it only SEEMS to rain.
Re: LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Can anybody shed some light on the error message above? I get it whenever I run LILO now, and the system won't boot from the hard drive. The only change to this system was a new network card (there are now 2) and the new kernel. The kernel works fine, as I have installed LILO on a floppy and can boot with no trouble. Here are some details: SCSI controller ID is 7 sda SCSI id 0 all other SCSI disks disabled as part of my debugging hda is an IDE HD, no bootable partitions hdb is an IDE CDROM so...what is the first disk? The system used to boot from /dev/sda just fine, and the problem really seems to have something to do with the second network card I added. TIA for the help. noah /dev/hda is the first disk. to boot off of /dev/sda you need to probably reconfigure your BIOS or something to do it, or install LILO to the MBR on /dev/hda. i had a similar configuration on a BP6, boot drive was SCSI but i had IDE and LILO gave the same message, but i had the bios configured to boot from the scsi so there was no trouble. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 02:48:02PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: Can anybody shed some light on the error message above? I get it whenever I run LILO now, and the system won't boot from the hard drive. The only change to this system was a new network card (there are now 2) and the new kernel. The kernel works fine, as I have installed LILO on a floppy and can boot with no trouble. Here are some details: SCSI controller ID is 7 sda SCSI id 0 all other SCSI disks disabled as part of my debugging hda is an IDE HD, no bootable partitions hdb is an IDE CDROM so...what is the first disk? The system used to boot from /dev/sda just fine, and the problem really seems to have something to do with the second network card I added. The BIOS (which LILO uses to load the kernel) numbers disks as 0x80 for the first drive and 0x81 for the second. The catch with a mixed scsi/ide setup is that the SCSI BIOS inserts itself into the call chain and fondles those numbers (usually) so that the SCSI drive is the first drive from the BIOS perspective, even if Linux can't see it. So you have to convince LILO of two things: 1) it should write the boot loader to the SCSI drive 2) it should ask the BIOS to load from device 0x80 (which should be the scsi drive). You do this in lilo.conf: disk = /dev/sda bios = 0x80 -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: hdparm
The package hwtools installs a script at /etc/init.d/hwtools, which is where I invoke hdparm from. I think the default script, when installed, has a commented out section for hdparm. Tom Jamie Raymond wrote: Hi, Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets invoked upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in /etc/init.d be appropriate?) Thanks, Jamie
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? When I do :r! man blabla in vi, I get funny characters at some places. Using man's --ascii option didn't help. You can use Emacs (Even if this is hard for vi users ;-) ). Just type M-x man and then write the buffer to a file with C-x w . Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. Christoph
Re: Compile issue with linux-2.4.0-test8 and gcc 2.95.2-14
You probably already know this but, apparently the recommended gcc for compiling 2.4.0-test* is 2.7.2.3. I did see something like gcc 2.95 may give problems in one of the readme files in the kernel sources. -chris ^chewie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I sent this one off to the linux-kernel email list as well, but figured that since Debian is the environment I work in, I'd let you have a crack at it. Suggestions?
Re: PGP and Mutt
Brian and others, thanks for the replys, I guess I can't solve all without reading:) On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:09:34PM -0700, brian moore wrote: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 03:21:58AM +0200, Carel Fellinger wrote: now I get the following error message once I open a signed mail: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Sat Sep 9 03:17:03 2000) --] Signature by unknown keyid: 0x55F2B9B0 You need to get the key for that key id. GNUPG has an option to autofetch unknown keys. This signature applies to another message That's normal: it means the signature is detached (as in multi-part). I see. This was the one that worried me the most and ment the least. Now trying to fill my keyrings... -- groetjes, carel
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:59:55PM +0200, Christoph Groth wrote: Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? When I do :r! man blabla in vi, I get funny characters at some places. Using man's --ascii option didn't help. You can use Emacs (Even if this is hard for vi users ;-) ). Just type M-x man and then write the buffer to a file with C-x w . Aaargh. This box is a p90 with little RAM. I want no GUI, nothing fancy, nothing bloaty. ;-) Besides I never used *Emacs, so that would take me some time to get into. Also, I like vi and don't need / want anything new now. Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. Which is how? Never done this so please help me out a little. Thanks Sven -- We will run this with the same kind of openness we have run Windows, Steve Ballmer on their .net service
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. Which is how? Never done this so please help me out a little. Well you can do something like this: 13:27:57/usr/man/man1$ zcat man.1.gz | nroff -man ~/tmp/woo but this still puts funky characters in the output file.. Maybe man nroff first.. outside of vi, of course, heh. -chris
kernel 2.4.0-test7
I upgraded from potato to woody and installed the newest kernel. However, when I boot from the new kernel, it locks up when it tries to start inetd. If I try to boot the old kernel, there are no problems. Does anyone know what this could be? luke
informazioni
SPETT.LE DEBIAN MI SONO CONNESSO ALL'FTP PER SCARICARE IL VOSTRO SISTEMA OPERATIVO... MA NON SO QUALI FILES SCARICARE. PREMETTO CHE DI LINUX NON SO ASSOLUTAMENTE PARLARE, ANCHE SE VOGLIO ADDENTRARMI IN QUESTO MONDO. IN FTP HO TROVATO: dists doc indices project tools IS-IR. IS-IR.gz IS-IR.patch.gz README.non-US README README.pgp README.mirrors.html README.mirrors.txt README.CD-manufacture considerando che io abbia un hardware completamente "vergine" con hard-disk vuoto... cosa devo scaricare per potere lavorare? esiste anche un'interfaccia grafica? In attesa di una vostra risposta, ringrazio e invio cordiali saluti, Ercole Francavilla
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 01:29:32PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. Which is how? Never done this so please help me out a little. Well you can do something like this: 13:27:57/usr/man/man1$ zcat man.1.gz | nroff -man ~/tmp/woo That seems to do a fine job. I cannot find a documentation of that -man parameter anywhere. Where would that be? (checked the man page of *roff) Regards Sven -- We will run this with the same kind of openness we have run Windows, Steve Ballmer on their .net service
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
Oh haha, the parameter is actually called -m (macro), the an is an argument to the parameter. -chris That seems to do a fine job. I cannot find a documentation of that -man parameter anywhere. Where would that be? (checked the man page of *roff)
Re: informazioni
My italian is bad but maybe this will help you: http://www.debian.org/international/Italian -chris
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:12:40PM +0200, thus spake Sven Burgener: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:59:55PM +0200, Christoph Groth wrote: Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? When I do :r! man blabla in vi, I get funny characters at some places. Using man's --ascii option didn't help. You can use Emacs (Even if this is hard for vi users ;-) ). Just type M-x man and then write the buffer to a file with C-x w . Aaargh. This box is a p90 with little RAM. I want no GUI, nothing fancy, nothing bloaty. ;-) Besides I never used *Emacs, so that would take me some time to get into. Also, I like vi and don't need / want anything new now. Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. Which is how? Never done this so please help me out a little. OK. The trick is to get man to output in PostScript format: man -t will do it. Then use the utility psnup (one of the GNU pstools package.). It will print two or more pages of the man output onto one page, thus saving some paper. man -t fetchmail | psnup -2 | lpr will print out your fetchmail man pages with two 'pages' to a sheet. HTH Glyn M -- ** * The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. * * Douglas Hoftstatder* **
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 07:52:15AM -0400, Jonathan Markevich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:03:38PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? An older version of MI/X? Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? See other followups. Actually, if you had locally served X apps, you could display them to the remote (Linux) VNC session, then display them locally via VNC viewer. Remember: X is a networked windowing system g. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpI8fhzDVsau.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:59:55PM +0200, Christoph Groth wrote: Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? When I do :r! man blabla in vi, I get funny characters at some places. Using man's --ascii option didn't help. You can use Emacs (Even if this is hard for vi users ;-) ). Just type M-x man and then write the buffer to a file with C-x w . Another way would be to directly use troff/nroff. How about 'man -t blabla |lpr' -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
Re: c++ compiler problem
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:49:16PM -0400, Chris Gray wrote: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:58:54PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: I get the following error when I try to compile a short c++ program: --- c++ allvehic.cpp -o voertuig cpp: -lang-c++: linker input file unused since linking not done c++: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory Somehow your gcc installation has gotten messed up. Perhaps you compiled gcc on your own and installed it in /usr/local/bin? If so, you might want to try ... to get the default c++ compiler. If that doesn't help, the only thing I could think of is to re-install gcc. Re-installing gcc and g++ solved the problem. Thanks. Johann -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082 898 1528(Johann) 082 255 2388(Hester) Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.James 4:7
