Re: No puedo entar como usuario.
El miércoles 13 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 21:54:06 +0200, root contaba: sadacia login: jcmuro System bootup in progress - please wait Si no me equivoco, ese mensaje aparece porque hay por ahí un /etc/nologin. Si lo hay, es que falla el /etc/init.d/rmnologin. pd.- Decidme si hace falta que mande algún dato más ... Si no puedes copiar ni pegar, esto se te hará un poco duro, pero a ver si puedes mandarnos lo que sale al arrancar, a partir de cuando dice INIT version x.xx booting o como sea. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpEYyAHevbGM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: usar el scroll lateral para leer los mensajes
El viernes 15 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 15:09:52 +0200, 31 contaba: a veces llegan a la lista mensajes que son una sola linea interminable o eso me hace ver mi netscape, ¿sabeis porque pasa esto? ¿sabeis como arreglarlo? Diciéndole a su remitente que por favor no haga las líneas mayores de 80 caracteres :^). Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Jeje, he aquí un ejemplo :^DDD. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpDGRfru2Frc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Marcar mensajes en mutt
El 11-Sep-00 Santi Moreno dijo: Utilizando la tecla N cambias el estado de Nuevo a Leido y viceversa. Bueno, lo que pasa es que no entiendo pq si antes de salir de mutt el mensaje esta marcado como nuevo (se ve de color rojo), al salir y volver a entrar, el mensaje esta marcado como viejo (con la letra O) y no como nuevo, aunque aun no lo haya leido. Es esto normal? Lo puedo cambiar? ya que me gustaria tener siempre marcados como nuevos los mensajes no leidos o poderlos poner de color rojo como los nuevos, para asi verlos mas facilmente. Un Saludo Para alla va otro Santi _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
bitchx y cambio de ventana
Hola Pues me presento, soy estudiante de informática y ayer me instalé debian (ya he usado redhats y suses... pero le tenia ganas a debian) Y me está gustando demasiado, y encima todo funciona a la primera :-) (meno un lio queme hice con el navigator...) Y tengo un problemilla menor con el bitchx: no puedo cambiar de ventana. Uso el BitchX de la potato, hago el /window new hide y con alt+2 intento cambiar pero no puedo, se me escribe el 2 en pantalla haciendo un /bind veo algo de swap windows, pero no sé qué es he puesto algo en el .bitchxrc que ponia en un doc de bitchx: /bind meta3-1 chelp /bind meta3-2 CHANNEL_CHOPS /bind meta3-3 CHANNEL_NONOPS /bind meta3-4 CDCC_PLIST /bind meta3-5 DCC_PLIST /bind meta3-6 DCC_STATS creo que no tiene nada que ver por lo que pone, pero no sé muy bien qué es muchas gracias Carles Pina i Estany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || #ICQ: 14446118 || Nick: Teufeus / Pine URL: http://www.salleurl.edu/~is08139 Faltaz de hortografia yo? Que ba, mi moden tiene corezion de herorres
Re: bitchx y cambio de ventana
Hola de nuevo pues nada, que en lugar de cambiar de ventana con alt+2 en debian tengo que cambiar con esc+2 vaya parida gracias!
Problema con el sonido
Holas!! Tengo debian woody con helix y todas esas movidas. Mi problema es q no me rula el sonido cuando entro sin root. Tengo alsa para el sonido. Supongo q es por los permisos, pero nolo se. Alguien me puede hechar un calbe. Uso Alsa 5.9 o 5.7 es un Live! el caso es q rula con root osea q???
Re: códigos de error de wget
Hue-Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: El jueves 14 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 01:48:43 +0200, David Muriel contaba: Mi problema está en que quiero que para cada fichero que se intente bajar lo ponga en una lista si lo baja bien, y en otra si da algún error. Me he mirado la página de manual y el info de wget y no he encontrado nada (o no he sido capaz de encontrarlo) referente a códigos de error. ¿Hay alguna forma de averiguar el estado de terminación sin tener que revisar los logs que genera el wget? Con el típico $? de bash. Si usas otro shell, no sé. $? devuelve el código de error del último programa ejecutado. $ true; echo $?; false; echo $? 0 1 wget devuelve 0 si se ha bajado el tema bien, y 1 si no (o al menos si el error es un 404). Esto es lo que yo suponía cuando lo probé, pero parece que no es así, porque si pruebo: $ wget http://www.direccion.com/fichero; --20:56:20-- http://www.direccion.com:80/fichero = `fichero' Connecting to www.direccion.com:80... www.direccion.com: Host not found. $ echo $? 1 sin embargo: $ wget ftp://ftp.direccion.com/fichero; --20:56:45-- ftp://ftp.direccion.com:21/fichero = `.listing' Connecting to ftp.direccion.com:21... ftp.direccion.com: Host not found unlink: No such file or directory --20:56:45-- ftp://ftp.direccion.com:21/fichero = `fichero' == CWD not required. == PORT ... ftp.direccion.com: Host not found $ echo $? 0 Por lo tanto no funciona como se supone que debería funcionar. :-( Seguiré buscando una solución. Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) 'Si no sale bueno, hagamoslo bonito' Gates. 'Si sale bueno, para que hacerlo bonito ?' Thompson. 'Bueno, bonito y barato' Torvalds.
Re: Problemas con la reescritura de cabeceras con exim
El Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 03:07:52PM +0200, Lluís Vilanova contaba: valhalla:~$ exim -brw [EMAIL PROTECTED] env-from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perfecto. Funciona bien. Pues yo tengo puesto xxx: Lluis Vilanova [EMAIL PROTECTED] y me funciona, lo acabo de probar. Funciona, pero no tiene ningún sentido. Veamos por qué: - Es chapucero: Si quieres cambiar tus nombre tienes que editar el fichero /etc/emails, que no es accesible a tu usuario. Tendría que hacerlo el administrador del sistema (aunque en este caso seas tu mismo). - Es una perdida de tiempo. Tu mismo configuraste el mutt para que ponga 'Lluìs Vilanova'. Tampoco haría falta porque normalmente se coje el nombre del usuario de /etc/passwd. No tiene ningún sentido cambiar algo 3 veces. - Es peligroso: Si se te da por poner palabras acentuadas (Lluìs, por ejemplo) o algo así, puede que tus mensajes no llegen a ningún lado. Y mejor no arriesgarse. Por tanto si quieres lo dejas. Yo tiendo a dejar todo lo más claro posible para evitar posibles errores en un futuro. Por ahora parece que ya no me da los errores esos :?, eso si, siempre y cuando me baje el correo antes de enviar. Empezáramos, lo que pasa es que Yahoo! utiliza autorización a través de POP3. Lo que hace es que primero te obliga a contectarte con POP3 para confirmar que tu dirección IP es de un usuario de Yahoo!. Luego ya puedes utilizar su servidor SMTP. ¿Que hacer? Arrancar siempre el 'fetchmail' antes de enviar el correo. A ver... Tendrías que cambiar la siguiente cosa: - editar el fichero: /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/exim - añadir antes de los comandos: fetchmail -f /home/usuario/.fetchmailrc Siendo 'usuario' tu usuario con una cuenta 'Yahoo'. Esto es bastante chapucero. A mi no me gusta que un script que se debe ejecutar como 'root' llame al fetchmail de tu usuario. Creo que para cuentas como estas de Yahoo, con estos sistemas tan poco fáciles de conexión sería mejor que usases algún programa Linux que soporte POP3. -- Saudos: ose[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vigo/Galicia/España) http://pagina.de/xmanoel/ http://w3.to/mikkeli/
Re: Sobre GRUB, no puedo arrancar Hurd
El Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 07:20:49PM +0200, Santiago Vila contaba: Ahora Linux ya no se cuelga nunca, funciona siempre, qué rollo... vámonos a por el Hurd. Tenía entendido que el Hurd es un proyecto anterior al Linux. Lo que pasa es que su desarrollo es mucho más lento. De hecho, es un sistema operativo muchísimo más innovador y supone más complicaciones su desarrollo. Y no tiene ningún apoyo comercial (y dudo que lo tenga). -- Saudos: ose[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vigo/Galicia/España) http://pagina.de/xmanoel/ http://w3.to/mikkeli/
Re: Marcar mensajes en mutt
Guenas El Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 03:08:54PM +0200, Lluís Vilanova disidio iscribir: Bueno, lo que pasa es que no entiendo pq si antes de salir de mutt el mensaje esta marcado como nuevo (se ve de color rojo), al salir y volver a entrar, el mensaje esta marcado como viejo (con la letra O) y no como nuevo, aunque aun no lo haya leido. Claro, lo marca como Old (viejo, aunque no leido). Los Nuevos son los que han llegado pero aun no han sido listados por el mutt Es esto normal? Sip Lo puedo cambiar? Sip, set nomark_old Saludines -- --- Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] AndresHE/cagarruta En Irc-Hispano | N.Reg: 66054 PAGÜERED BAI Debian Potato (sin colorines, se leer)| Kernel 2.4.0-test4 Toshiba 220 CS - P133 - 48Mb RAM - 6Gb HD. Clave GPG: http://www.antakira.com/~aherrerm/clave.asc --- pgpV2wyYZbw9a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Futura lista de Hurd en español
Leyendo anteriores correos que tratan sobre el microkernel Hurd, me pregunto si hay la suficiente masa critica como para crear una lista de usuarios ( y ojala futuros desarrolladores ) del sistema Gnu / Hurd en español. Un sitio donde intercambiar información sobre nuestras andanzas en el innovador aunque veterano Hurd ( la documentación sobre su instalación que encontre en la pagina oficial del GNU es bastante anticuada ). Estoy seguro que el intercambio de información en nuestro propio idioma facilitaria bastante nuestra toma de contacto con el y ademas servira como catalizador de nuevos usuarios que, como la esperiecia con Linux a demostrado, es la base de un desarrollo mas rapido. (Tengo entendio que el portar aplicaciones a Hurd no es muy complicado, el problema esta, hay es nada, en perfeccionar el microkernel.) P.D: La cuestión sobre donde y como crearla creo que es evidente, me refiero a si capta el suficiente interes. Kilian Pérez González.
ayuda para arreglar filesystem
Hola amigos. El problema es que al iniciar linux me dice que hay un erroe en el filesystem y que utlice fsck. lo he hechoen repetidas ocaciones y nada el cuento es que alli se encuentra informacion importante. me gustaria me indicaran que otros programas o ayudas puedo utilizar que no sea el fsck. por sy ayuda de verdad muchas gracias. Ing. Rodrigo Usuario Regiastrado linux #159992 -- Te va Linux? :) Consigue gratis tu dirección email @linuxstart.com en: http://www.linuxstart.com
Re: Sobre GRUB, no puedo arrancar Hurd
On sáb, sep 16, 2000 at 08:35:20 +0200, Xose Manoel Ramos wrote: desarrollo. Y no tiene ningún apoyo comercial (y dudo que lo tenga). ~~~ Yo no haría afirmaciones como estas así por las buenas, corres grave riesgo de entrar en la lista de frases desacertadas de la historia, por ahí tenía una url sobre ello :) Sobre GNU, Hurd y su relación con Linux, en gnu.org tienes la explicación más sucinta y clara de las que he leido, de la mano de RMS. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey
Re: Futura lista de Hurd en español
On sáb, sep 16, 2000 at 11:05:36 +0200, Kilian Pérez González wrote: P.D: La cuestión sobre donde y como crearla creo que es evidente, me refiero a si capta el suficiente interes. Hombre, interés tengo todo el del mundo pero no se yo si se puede crear una lista así por las buenas en debian.org con tan poca masa crítica. Si por doc en español se refiere, estoy traduciendo la Guiá Fácil de Instalación de Debian GNU/Hurd y espero seguir con más. Mi intención es potenciar Hurd desde La Espiral dado que es un proyecto anexo (y no oficial) al Proyecto Debian en el que todo esto en habla hispana tiene cabida directa. La documentación está un poco dispersa y en español... cero cartón (o casi, yo no lo encontré). Ánimo, y sobre todo como bien dejaba caer Santiago Vila: a probar, experimentar y desarrollar, este terreno de Hurd, si bien no es para el usuario final, es estupendo para el desarrollador avanzado, medio y curioso empedernido dentro de cuyo grupo me incluyo :) Saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey
Re: Futura lista de Hurd en español
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 11:05:36PM +0200, Kilian Pérez González wrote: Leyendo anteriores correos que tratan sobre el microkernel Hurd, me pregunto si hay la suficiente masa critica como para crear una lista de usuarios ( y ojala futuros desarrolladores ) del sistema Gnu / Hurd en español. Creo que uno de los problemas del desarrollo de GNU/HURD es el desorden que hay con todo. He contabilizado unas 4 guías de instalación diferentes. Hay otros tantos sitios con documentación, hay listas de correo tanto en lists.debian.org como en gnu.org. Hay paquetes aquí y allá. Aparte de que no creo que realmente haya gente como para hacer una lista de usuarios de hurd, no se si es lo más conveniente. Aunque si tienes mucho problema con el inglés, entiendo tu interés perfectamente. (Tengo entendio que el portar aplicaciones a Hurd no es muy complicado, el problema esta, hay es nada, en perfeccionar el microkernel.) Cualquier aplicación debería compilar y funcionar en gnu si está escrita siguiendo los estandares y tal. Luego están los problemas como la falta de random device, etc, pero eso es cosa de gnumach. -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, aka Oskuro in|| [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Using Debian GNU/Linux Reinos de Leyenda || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://debian.org http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpsDcdMOn48o.pgp Description: PGP signature
qmail, es cierta tanta maravilla?
Holas, Actualmente uso el smail de slink y en realidad su procesamiento secuencial de la cola deja bastante que desear, sobre todo cuando se le atragantan mensajes para un host temporalmente muerto. Asi que, en anticipacion de un aumento explosivo en el trafico de email en mi sitio me he puesto a buscar un MTAde alto rendimiento. Zmailer parece tener buena pinta, pero me pase por un sitio de qmail donde se asegura que es mas rapido que Zmailer, aparte de ser mas liviano y mas seguro. Es cierta tanta maravilla?. Alguien que tenga experiencia en la practica con qmail me podria contar? Gracias. Blu.
Re: No puedo entar como usuario.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, root wrote: Hola listeros. hola Hasta ahí todo bien. Lo malo es que no me deja entrar como usuario. Sólo como root, y para convertirme en el usuario luego tengo que hacer un 'su'. A mi me pasa exactamente lo mismo, con los mismos errores y todo, alguien sabe que puede ser? esto empezo a ocurrir cuando actualize a de Potato a Woody, es raro por que cuando tenia Slink y Potato entro a frozen actualize a Potato y me anduvo de maravilla, luego cuando Potato salio oficial actualize a Woody , todo esto a traves de APT. por lo menos tengo el consuelo de no ser el unico con este problema :-) Salu2 Shalom ve Leitrahot Alejandro David Yashan (GNU-Rex en IRC) La contribucion mas grande y peligrosa que Micro$oft ha hecho a la industria del software podria ser el nivel al que ha bajado las expectativas de los usuarios. Acentos y e#es omitidas deliberadamente para evitar problemas de lectura con algunos clientes de e-mail Linux Registered User #120401 LUGAr Miembro #409 POWERED BY GNU/Debian Woody Kernel 2.2.17 Linux is userfriendly, but is only a bit selective about its friends :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5xDfTiS3xNWtJnS4RAup/AJ9IPRBk+aasRBFk3WdI3+Iu8NbxOgCglwyc 9Rn+ffznuWhqu8ekY3CBbTo= =EfpS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [debian-br] prós e contras
Caro Alexandre, meu primeiro linux foi slack. As vantagens do Debian sobre Slack são: . Atualização diária da distribuição; . Fácil atualização pela Internet; . Muito maior número de pacotes; . Listas de discussão boas; . Grande modularização; . Preocupação constante com segurança. Quoting Alexandre Ribeiro da Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Olá, amigos. Sou um linuxer meio anômalo. Já usei algumas distribuições, a grande maioria baseada no rpm, mas não me fixei em nenhuma talvez pela vontade de saber algo mais sobre o linux. O fato é que até o ano passado eu utilizava o slack 7.0 e participei de algumas listas sérias, tendo como exemplo a da linusp, que alguns dos participantes da debian-br faziam parte. Por pura falta de tempo tive que largar o slack, o linux e tudo o que dizia respeito a vida particular. Inclusive apaguei o meu slack do computador, ficando à mercê do windows. Sempre respeitei muito a Debian, mas infelizmente nunca a conheci muito, e agora que estou voltando ao linux, estou sinceramente dividido entre o slack, que está na 7.1 e o debian, que saiu de uma versão estacionada há três anos e evoluiu para a 2.2. Gostaria que vocês me ajudassem nessa dúvida, expondo as vantagens práticas da debian sobre o slack, tendo em vista que tenho um conhecimento intermediário/avançado sobre o sistema, mas a preguiça de um usuário windows para configurar o sistema. Desculpem pela carta quilométrica. Um abraço. Alexandre.
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kupdate...
Salve pessoal, Venho até vocês pedir ajuda em um problema que começou quando dei o `apt-get dist-upgrade' hoje (atualmente uso a versão woody, mas não tem nada a ver pois meu amigo PH usa também e no sistema dele nada ocoreu), Depois de atualizar o sistema fechei minha interface ppp0 e reiniciei o sistema. Mas quando voltei recebi a seguinte msg de erro que segue: lissa login: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kupdate... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kupdate... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kupdate... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kupdate... leotho Password: Last login: Sun Jul 16 18:08:02 2000 on tty1 Linux lissa 2.2.16 #1 Wed Jul 5 09:54:17 BRT 2000 i686 unknown ( leotho - ~ ) Como podem ver deu para eu efetuar o logim mas a msg de erro persiste, já formatei a partição swap, reiniciei o sistema com ela desligada e nda..Espero a ajuda de vocês. []'s -- Leonardo Thozo Vieira (leotho) --- http://ano2001.com http://www.debian.org.br irc.debian.org = #debian-br [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advanced power management and linux?
Hm, the chopstick is starting to smell bad, gotta let the fan run for a bit.. the fan motor will probably burn out like this. Hm, really? I don't think the motor is running; the P/S makes absolutely no sound at all. Still going strong. Do mean that the motor will burn out because it isn't running, but should be? In this case, can I replace the (hard-wired) fan with some component from Radio Shack (a resistor??) which fools the circuit into thinking that it's a fan? What sort of component would I need? The fan is 12V, 0.15A. well you could always buy Apple's powerpc hardware, Steve Jobs apparently loathes fan noise and macs are rather quiet. most of them run debian quite nicely too ;-) (the negative side to this is the rather high prices) There it is.. -chris
Re: advanced power management and linux?
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 09:06:18PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: Hm, the chopstick is starting to smell bad, gotta let the fan run for a bit.. the fan motor will probably burn out like this. Hm, really? I don't think the motor is running; the P/S makes absolutely no sound at all. Still going strong. Do mean that the motor will burn out because it isn't running, but should be? the fan IS running but you just jam a chopstick in to prevent it from moving right? so the motor is still trying to run but is stuck, so the motor will eventually burn out in this condition. a better way to stop the fan is to unplug it. In this case, can I replace the (hard-wired) fan with some component from Radio Shack (a resistor??) which fools the circuit into thinking that it's a fan? What sort of component would I need? The fan is 12V, 0.15A. you mean the powersupply can tell that the fan is removed and refuses to work without it? in that case i am not sure, a resister may very well do the job but you could short things out if its the wrong size. im not though ive never needed to disable a powersuppy fan before. (mine are not that noisy) -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpor8ybyZSZg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: corruption during power loss
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:13:53PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: if you want your linux filesystems to be safer and are willing to accept the significant performance hit change defaults to defaults,sync in /etc/fstab for your ext2 filesystems. be prepared for things like tar -x and rm -rf to take eons though. (dpkg upgrades take much longer too) Nice to know that I have the option. So far, as I said, I haven't seen any major problems under Debian. Mike
Kernel questions
I have a few basic questions about building the kernel from source for debian. I've read the documentation, but there are a few things that are unclear to me. Why is the kernel-image-* package compiled with APM turned off? Almost any computer bios made in the last couple of years supports apm features, so it would make sense for debian to distribute the default kernel image or at least offer a kernel image with apm enabled. Why does the kernel-source-* package ship with a change from upstream source with apm turned off? I would also think it would be cool to have the kernel source package ship with the 'debian official config' saved off in an external configuration file so that I could rebuild *everything* that ships in the kernel image. Any easy place to get that configuration? Should I file a wish-list bug for the kernel-source to have that config packaged with it?
Libranet
I am in the middle of a hard drive melt down and a hardware upgrade via a clean install. I have lousy bandwidth and hence, prefer a cd for installation. (I do have a base install of slink on a 486 that I downloaded via floppies however) I've been reading a bit about Libranet, which is based on potato (2.2.17). Does anyone have experience with this? Would I be better off getting a burnt potato cd? Any thoughts? tia russell
Can anyone else verify this ???
Using kernel 2.4-pre8 I can not access www.ibm.com or www.cdw.com yet can access many other sites without problem. If I reboot into 2.2.17, I can access the sites just fine. My reason for asking here is to do a quick poll of other Linux users who MIGHT be using the 2.4-pre kernels before I say anything on the kernel list. Maybe it is something goofy I did in my config but I don't think so.
Re: Can anyone else verify this ???
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 10:00:05PM -0700, George Bonser wrote: Using kernel 2.4-pre8 I can not access www.ibm.com or www.cdw.com yet can access many other sites without problem. If I reboot into 2.2.17, I can access the sites just fine. My reason for asking here is to do a quick poll of other Linux users who MIGHT be using the 2.4-pre kernels before I say anything on the kernel list. Maybe it is something goofy I did in my config but I don't think so. There was a report at linuxtoday.com about a newly support IP header bit that indicates a congested network. Anyway, turns out if this bit is set, many prominent web sites will drop the IP packets. The idea is, the system can throttle packet sending to reduce drops/resends. I forgot the name of the bit, but you might want to make sure it's turned off. IBM was among the sites listed as dropping packets... -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
Re: Can anyone else verify this ???
There was a report at linuxtoday.com about a newly support IP header bit that indicates a congested network. Anyway, turns out if this bit is set, many prominent web sites will drop the IP packets. The idea is, the system can throttle packet sending to reduce drops/resends. I forgot the name of the bit, but you might want to make sure it's turned off. IBM was among the sites listed as dropping packets... Interesting. BTW, the failure differs between the two sites ... IBM times out while CDW returns immdediately with Not Accepting Connections .. server might be busy blah blah blah
Re: Kernel questions
Aaron Brashears wrote: I have a few basic questions about building the kernel from source for debian. I've read the documentation, but there are a few things that are unclear to me. Why is the kernel-image-* package compiled with APM turned off? Almost any computer bios made in the last couple of years supports apm features, so it would make sense for debian to distribute the default kernel image or at least offer a kernel image with apm enabled. Why does the kernel-source-* package ship with a change from upstream source with apm turned off? I would also think it would be cool to have the kernel source package ship with the 'debian official config' saved off in an external configuration file so that I could rebuild *everything* that ships in the kernel image. Any easy place to get that configuration? Should I file a wish-list bug for the kernel-source to have that config packaged with it? I have never used apm and don't plan on it, unless I get a laptop. As far as I can tell from reading on linux lists it is a testy thing to configure at times. It would probably cause more problems that it is worth to have built into a kernel by default. When you build your kernel you are given the chance to select any option the kernel supports when you make config or make menuconfig or go the kpkg route. hth, kent -- Neurosis is the way of avoiding non-being by avoiding being. - Paul Tillich, American theologian (1886-1965).
Re: Can anyone else verify this ???
hi ya george... from level3 or pacbell dsl...i can't get to www.ibm.com www.cdw.com, etc am not sure if its your box ( kernel ) cause my older linux boxes ( thru pacbell dsl ) and new 2.2.16 boxes also have problems getting to it... and similarly goin c ya alvin pacbell get stuck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# /usr/sbin/traceroute www.ibm.com . 3 edge1-ge2-0.snfc21.pbi.net (209.232.130.71) 13.467 ms 12.708 ms 13.490 ms 4 * * * 5 * * * and is stuck level3 gets stuck at... --- 4 209.247.9.1 (209.247.9.1) 6.539 ms 6.368 ms 6.351 ms 5 209.247.10.238 (209.247.10.238) 6.374 ms 6.516 ms 6.317 ms 6 * * * 7 * * * and is stuck On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, George Bonser wrote: Using kernel 2.4-pre8 I can not access www.ibm.com or www.cdw.com yet can access many other sites without problem. If I reboot into 2.2.17, I can access the sites just fine. My reason for asking here is to do a quick poll of other Linux users who MIGHT be using the 2.4-pre kernels before I say anything on the kernel list. Maybe it is something goofy I did in my config but I don't think so.
Re: Kernel questions
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 09:39:35PM -0700, Aaron Brashears wrote: I have a few basic questions about building the kernel from source for debian. I've read the documentation, but there are a few things that are unclear to me. Why is the kernel-image-* package compiled with APM turned off? Almost any computer bios made in the last couple of years supports apm features, so it would make sense for debian to distribute the default kernel image or at least offer a kernel image with apm enabled. Debian supports many older computers too. They might not support APM, or be broken. It's one thing to not have your computer go to sleep, and another for it to randomly crash and corrupt the filesystem. Why does the kernel-source-* package ship with a change from upstream source with apm turned off? I would also think it would be cool to have the kernel source package ship with the 'debian official config' saved off in an external configuration file so that I could rebuild *everything* that ships in the kernel image. Any easy place to get that configuration? Should I file a wish-list bug for the kernel-source to have that config packaged with it? Debian kernels are pretty much stock AFAIK. You can download kernels from kernel.org (or one of it's mirrors) just as easily. Anyway, just move .config to .config.old and you should get the default kernel configuration. I suggest building kernels with make-kpkg (kernel-package). It simplifies the installation and lets dpkg know about your kernel changes. $ make menuconfig $ make-kpkg clean $ fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=5:foo.1.0 kernel_image $ su -c 'dpkg -i ../kernel-image*.deb' Password: Simple, no? -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
KDE 2
Hi, I've been trying to install kde from tdyc.com but it never works. Can someone give give me a line to add to my sources list the works. Thanks Mike
Re: Can anyone else verify this ???
Well, I just quickly checked both sites you mentioned. No problem from my little ol' dial-up account. Anyway, how the firewall responds to what it believes to be a malformed packet is specific to the config. One just out 'n out drops it, while another says 'Screw that junk, you're out of here!' (i.e. rejects). 'Course I don't know that's the problem. I think it's called ECN, you might check your system. echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn fixes the problem, thanks.
of Xservers and XSetup, of sabotage and kinks...
Hi All - Just downloaded 2.2 - verrry sweet ftp install! I've run into a small problem with getting/finding/installing the XServer, though, and was wondering if someone could help with this. I did grab the XFree 4.0 stuff, as XF86Setup was quite insistent that I did not have the required server for my Diamond Viper 770. Looked at the documentation for NVidia, and came out of the 2 hour doc-search no wiser than before. Again, was surprised to find setup telling me the required server didn't exist. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance - Alpha
can anyone explain why ??
When I'm ripping a CD with cdparanoia my dialup ppp connection doesn't work. I don't seem to be able to transfer at all. The link stays up but no or very little data seems to be able to flow. But if I stop cdparanoia everthing is fine. This is on a debian woody system running 2.2.17 kernel -- Cheers Simeon
Re: hostname/netname
how about domain dontUthink.com search lan nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver ip.name.server.addr ? is 127.0.0.1 bad compared to 192.168.1.1 for lan-wise dns? or does it not make any difference? 127.0.0.1 is mainly for the loopback. using 127.0.0.1 will work. I just tend to use the 192.168.x.x because that is what I use in the resolv.conf in other boxes. But I can't think of a reason not to use 127. This will allow you to work locally for telnet, bubb1, etc but will respond to the outside world with dontuthink.com /etc/hosts: 208.33.90.85 server.dontuthink.com 192.168.1.1 server.whatever.lan server and 127.0.0.1 loopback right? also, doesn't the sequencing mean something? 208.33.90.85 server server.dontUthink.com makes display apps (ipfwadm -l for example) show 'server' instead of trying to use the full name 'server.dontUthink.com', yes? mine also has the 'new style' gunk: ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00:: ip6-localnet ... Which I have little understanding of, currently. The order I use it above is because foreign hosts will almost certainly be using FQDN, otherwise how to they get to you as apposed to server.microsoft.com, etc. But it still allows your other local systems to use just the machine name and not get confused. When I first set up my lan, I had problems whenever my ppp link was down, because my local systems knew the gateway as machinename.domain.net, (didn't use .lan then) and that resolved to the non-working interface. In the /etc/hosts file, the order on the same line, doesn't really matter. When you are looking for say an You would generally want the ip look up to get the FQDN, so having it first is a good idea. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Which Netscape to use?
Sorry Group, this must be very FAQ. I would like some advice to which Netscape to get for my 2.2 Helix-gnome laptop. If I check the stable files, I find numerous installers with different numbers. I am a bit lost. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 04:38:11PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 03:47:48PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: But you've got zero control of commands available, and no logging of what commands are being run as root. true, but this goes back to my original comment that allowing a user account to run anything as sudo does nothing but turn it into another root account, if you want the granularity, loging and control you mention you have to take GREAT care in what you let a `sudoer' do, otherwise he can just run `sudo bash' and there goes your loging, and granularity right there. or something more insidious like this: sudo emacs M-x shell the same works with vi and loads of other editors. I'm aware of these limitations. You've got to work out acceptible policies and risks while providing the tools to get the job done. The problem I've had with direct root access is that users come on as root fromsome random IP (say, a dialup connection), and your accounting goes all to shit. With just a couple of users on a box (typical of servers I'm running), it's pretty straightforward to check to see who's doing a bunch of sudo vis or sudo bashs (and you'll find my name in both sets of greps). The question is whether or not the servers are getting fscked up in the process. Basically, it comes down to a matter of trust -- do you trust your people or don't you. The mix of sudo and full shell access means you can restrict access (barring gross malfeasance), but also track, at least to a resonable level of detail, what's going on. root's own .bash_history file is another useful resource, and when it turns up unexpectedly truncated, there are other issues at hand. Logging (root commands, logs, etc.) to a third-party box with write-once, persistant media is yet another option. It's easy to cover up tracks. It's a bit harder to cover up covering up tracks. Without the granularity of control by user and command, and logging. yes but see above. (i think we are talking about different things, i am talking about giving another admin full root privileges, where your talking about giving a admin or assistent just very partial restricted access) We're only talking partial cross-purposes. I'm looking for a tool to let me know at least when my admins are going full admin privileges, and possibly to offer limited administrative powers to more restricted users. I'm finding that the combination of prohibited root logins and sudo gives me more control than direct root logins and su. Though su is still used. Hmmm... Any way to prohibit su to root, I wonder. I think so, have to look into it. Got any ideas for systems allowing for both a fine-grained level of control *and* reasonable and flexibility for admins? Also, as this started off as a Debian thread somewhere/somehow, do you have any suggestions for auditing a box through dpkg / apt, including verification of packages (including checksum or signature tests where possible), detecting binaries *not* associated with packages, and/or possibly reinstalling a package over an existing instance? I believe RPM has at least some of these capabilities, not sure that DEBs do. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpY4M0nphHFM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 11:55:23PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: I'm aware of these limitations. You've got to work out acceptible policies and risks while providing the tools to get the job done. The problem I've had with direct root access is that users come on as root fromsome random IP (say, a dialup connection), and your accounting goes all to shit. yes of course, that is why all my machines have this line in thier sshd_config: PermitRootLogin no then there is no more direct root login except on the console. as it should be. With just a couple of users on a box (typical of servers I'm running), it's pretty straightforward to check to see who's doing a bunch of sudo vis or sudo bashs (and you'll find my name in both sets of greps). [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ tail -1 /var/log/sulog SU 09/15 03:09 + tty2 eb-root [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ The question is whether or not the servers are getting fscked up in the process. quite true. Basically, it comes down to a matter of trust -- do you trust your people or don't you. The mix of sudo and full shell access means you can restrict access (barring gross malfeasance), but also track, at least to a resonable level of detail, what's going on. root's own .bash_history file is another useful resource, and when it turns up unexpectedly truncated, there are other issues at hand. Logging (root commands, logs, etc.) to a third-party box with write-once, persistant media is yet another option. yes but not really trivial to implement. sudo does nice logging, but its totally defeated when someone runs sudo bash. (you still have .bash_history but its hard to track things there to an individual) It's easy to cover up tracks. It's a bit harder to cover up covering up tracks. perhaps We're only talking partial cross-purposes. I'm looking for a tool to let me know at least when my admins are going full admin privileges, and possibly to offer limited administrative powers to more restricted users. I'm finding that the combination of prohibited root logins and sudo gives me more control than direct root logins and su. Though su is still used. Hmmm... Any way to prohibit su to root, I wonder. I think so, have to look into it. add this line to your /etc/pam.d/su file: authrequisite pam_wheel.so group=wheel debug [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ id uid=1002(erb) gid=1002(erb) groups=1002(erb) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su su: Permission denied Sorry. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ Got any ideas for systems allowing for both a fine-grained level of control *and* reasonable and flexibility for admins? capabilities? Also, as this started off as a Debian thread somewhere/somehow, do you have any suggestions for auditing a box through dpkg / apt, including verification of packages (including checksum or signature tests where possible), detecting binaries *not* associated with packages, and/or possibly reinstalling a package over an existing instance? I believe RPM has at least some of these capabilities, not sure that DEBs do. look at the packages, debsums and cruft, debsums can check md5sums on all files (if the package came with such a list, and not all do) cruft alegedly finds files unexplained by the packaging system, i have not quite figured out how to make cruft work though, it always starts spewing off every file and directory starting from / the problem with debsums is its trivial for a root to tamper with /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.md5sums. a root can also just install a custom .deb, though this will be rather apparent the way dselect/apt operate. (apt will always replace a custom package with the real one if the versions are the same, dselect shows packages not listed in the Packages.gz file as `obsolete') ideally what is needed is some tripwire like functionality integrated into dpkg. tripwire is impossibly inconvenient if you install packages often or track unstable. really though if you have a hostile (or incompetant) root you can't get rid of your 120% screwed from the starting gate and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. (especially if your not the one who can get rid of them rather the oposite) -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpzegimRQuDA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems with the modules
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Aaron Brashears wrote: My machine developed the same problem after a kernel recompilation. I was never able to figure it out, and eventually *gasp* re-installed the entire system, which fixed everything. At least these days it's reinstall rather than reformat, reinstall... Your kidding me right ? Ooh your a former windows user ? ;) Just kidding. I personally would never do that, but yes I can understand it. You probably ran update-modules or an other similair tool. Well, I looked around and I found the bad line in /etc/modutils/patchs (first line): path[boot]=/lib/modules/ I changed mine to: path[boot]=/lib/modules/boot/ although maybe I should do boot per kernelversion, but I use the /etc/modules anyway. Also I needed to change more in that file to point to the right modules. I think they changed it because with kernel 2.4 they completly turned the modules directory structure around. What I don't understand is, how come it works, when you reinstall. Maybe there's a bug in the upgrade script (is there such a thing ?). OK, I think it's time to bug report about this. Although I've also seen a year and a half old bugreport, which is about the same as this would be. If anything has the errors writen down or something like that. Maybe it could be helpfull, let me know. Or has other more usefull information, do tell me/the list. Hope this helps and tia, Lennie.
Re: OT: shell prompt tip
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, J.P. Larocque wrote: On an unrelated note, I'm *fairly* new to Linux (or UNIX in general), only having been using it for about a year. In the DOS command-interpreter 4DOS, I could refer to parent directories as . and .. as is the norm in DOS and UNIX. But I could also type, say, cd , which would be equivalent of typing cd ..\..\..\. It could be thought of as going up the directory tree, one dot per level, the first representing the CWD. Is there any practical way I could make bash expand multiple dots like it would wildcards, passing the full expanded form onto the program being called, without hacking up the source to bash? One reason this would not scale well from DOS to Unix, is that ... ., etc are in fact perfectly legal filenames under Unix/Linux. In MS DOS, the . is a special character used by the FAT filesystem, and cannot be used in the filename, so ... etc are free to be interpreted by shells and commands such as 4DOS, and various replacements for CD One Debian package I have come across so far that actually does create files called ... is the Crypto Filesystem Daemon, cfsd. Regards Ahmed My ICQ Number is:- 89224228 Powered by Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 (http://www.debian.org)
Re: Kernel questions
Aaron == Aaron Brashears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aaron I would also think it would be cool to have the kernel source Aaron package ship with the 'debian official config' saved off in an Aaron external configuration file so that I could rebuild Aaron *everything* that ships in the kernel image. Any easy place to Aaron get that configuration? Should I file a wish-list bug for the Aaron kernel-source to have that config packaged with it? It ships with the kernel-image-* packages. Look into your /boot/ directory for config-* files. manoj -- The bank called to tell me that I'm overdrawn, Some freaks are burning crosses out on my front lawn, And I *can't*believe* it, all the Cheetos are gone, It's just ONE OF THOSE DAYS! Weird Al Yankovic, One of Those Days Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C
Port 118
Hello What's port 118 for? I can't find it in /etc/services though I have it in my logs as a denied (outgoing) packet (destination port is 118). Regards Sven -- I can't be wrong, my modem's got error-correction.
apt-move and helix
Hello World, I like to keep a partial mirror and I use apt-move (woody) to good effect. Now I'd like to mirror helixcode as well. But I can't figure out a way to arrange things so that apt-move will handle it gracefully. Has anyone got this working? At the moment I am keeping my helixcode files under .../debian/projects/helix but there must be a better way. Lindsay -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486, 0403 272 564 32.0125S 115.8445E Debian Linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
preparing to install debian
Good morning! I ordered a three CD set of debian cds and am preparing to install debian. I have some specific questions: (1) how do i configure debian for dsl ? (2) What do I have to do to get debian to recognize all three of my hard drives ? (3) what do I have to do to be able to dual boot to either debian (yea) or windows 98 (boo!!) ? (4) what is this potato that I keep reading about? I am very new to Linux, but have chosen it as the primary os for my computer because of its stability and reliability. I have a lot to learn, but I have to start somewhere. regards, Bob Edwards Fayetteville, Arkansas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can anyone explain why ??
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 05:27:14PM +1100, Simeon Simes wrote: When I'm ripping a CD with cdparanoia my dialup ppp connection doesn't work. I don't seem to be able to transfer at all. The link stays up but no or very little data seems to be able to flow. But if I stop cdparanoia everthing is fine. This is on a debian woody system running 2.2.17 kernel exactly the same problem with my brother's dial-up. my guess is, that the cdrom driver has some ugly kernel lock, which blocks everything else while data is read from the cdrom. the problem can be worked around by letting cdparanoia read data in small chunks. i achived this by piping it's output through a named pipe directly into an mp3 encoder (anybody wants my script?). if you want only ripping, then something like this might be a workaround: (this is untested!) dev=/dev/cdrom #adjust! for trk in `list_audio_tracks -D $dev|cut -f1`; do cdparanoina -q -d $dev $trk - | while dd count=128; do sleep 1; done $i.wav done adjust the count= to something reasonable (i have no verified value; the 128 gives 64k, which is the buffer size of a pipe (afaik)). note, that this will be slooow, but should not interfere with the modem _too_ much. hth -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. -- Become part of the world's biggest computer cluster - join http://www.distributed.net/
Re: Port 118
according to www.snort.org ist some kind of SQL Services. hth, rw On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:05:36 +0200, Sven Burgener writes: What's port 118 for? I can't find it in /etc/services though I have it in my logs as a denied (outgoing) packet (destination port is 118). -- / Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: +43 1 89933 0 Fax x533 \ \KPNQwest/AT tech staff| Diefenbachg. 35 A-1150 Wien /
Re: Port 118
What's port 118 for? I can't find it in /etc/services though I have it in my logs as a denied (outgoing) packet (destination port is 118). nmap-services says sqlserv #SQL Services regards -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. -- Become part of the world's biggest computer cluster - join http://www.distributed.net/
Re: Which Netscape to use?
* Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry Group, this must be very FAQ. I would like some advice to which Netscape to get for my 2.2 Helix-gnome laptop. If I check the stable files, I find numerous installers with different numbers. I am a bit lost. Any suggestions? My advice would be to install the 4.75 version, which has a fix for the `Brown Orifice' vulnerability. You might have to add deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list file. See also http://www.debian.org/security/2000/2901 -- Kjetil
Re: KDE 2
* Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I've been trying to install kde from tdyc.com but it never works. Can someone give give me a line to add to my sources list the works. Woody has a lot of KDE2 packages if you are willing to upgrade. -- Kjetil
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Re: OT: shell prompt tip
If your shell is bash then zou can create aliases. Write in .bashrc something like alias cd='cd ../../..' This allows you to type cd on the command line to go 3 directories up. Sven At Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:40:07 +0100 (BST), Simon Hales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, J.P. Larocque wrote: On an unrelated note, I'm *fairly* new to Linux (or UNIX in general), only having been using it for about a year. In the DOS command-interpreter 4DOS, I could refer to parent directories as . and .. as is the norm in DOS and UNIX. But I could also type, say, cd , which would be equivalent of typing cd ..\..\..\. It could be thought of as going up the directory tree, one dot per level, the first representing the CWD. Is there any practical way I could make bash expand multiple dots like it would wildcards, passing the full expanded form onto the program being called, without hacking up the source to bash? One reason this would not scale well from DOS to Unix, is that ... ., etc are in fact perfectly legal filenames under Unix/Linux. In MS DOS, the . is a special character used by the FAT filesystem, and cannot be used in the filename, so ... etc are free to be interpreted by shells and commands such as 4DOS, and various replacements for CD One Debian package I have come across so far that actually does create files called ... is the Crypto Filesystem Daemon, cfsd. Regards Ahmed My ICQ Number is:- 89224228 Powered by Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 (http://www.debian.org) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: pgp vs. mutt
* will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: i don't give a whit about signing my messages; unless we're passing munitions details during a war, i don't see the importance (at least none of my ramblings are even CLOSE to needing any certification or verification). i just wanna get rid of the gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found message... i guess i should learn to live with it. You could either: a) live with it b) see if the person has put their key on a webpage for you to grab c) use a keyserver (c) is preferable, it works great. Add something like: keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net To your ~/.gnupg/options file. Tom. -- .^..-. /V\| Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | ID-Pro - http://id-pro.co.uk | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ^^-^^ '-' pgpuOqmNlhpuM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: advanced power management and linux?
There is a purpose for the power supply fan you know. I had one going on the fritz ( running slow and stopping at times). I ran it this way for 6mo or so. Then all at once my hd started going haywire. Short story: I had to replace the hd and power supply. Dean Krzys Majewski wrote: Hm, the chopstick is starting to smell bad, gotta let the fan run for a bit.. the fan motor will probably burn out like this. Hm, really? I don't think the motor is running; the P/S makes absolutely no sound at all. Still going strong. Do mean that the motor will burn out because it isn't running, but should be? In this case, can I replace the (hard-wired) fan with some component from Radio Shack (a resistor??) which fools the circuit into thinking that it's a fan? What sort of component would I need? The fan is 12V, 0.15A. well you could always buy Apple's powerpc hardware, Steve Jobs apparently loathes fan noise and macs are rather quiet. most of them run debian quite nicely too ;-) (the negative side to this is the rather high prices) There it is.. -chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: of Xservers and XSetup, of sabotage and kinks...
There are those who would have you believe that S.J. Black wrote: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:23:36 -0700 From: S.J. Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: of Xservers and XSetup, of sabotage and kinks... Hi All - Just downloaded 2.2 - verrry sweet ftp install! I've run into a small problem with getting/finding/installing the XServer, though, and was wondering if someone could help with this. I did grab the XFree 4.0 stuff, as XF86Setup was quite insistent that I did not have the required server for my Diamond Viper 770. Looked at the documentation for NVidia, and came out of the 2 hour doc-search no wiser than before. Again, was surprised to find setup telling me the required server didn't exist. Any suggestions? The Diamond Viper 770 is based on the NVidia TNT2 chip. It's supported by the SVGA server in X 3.3.6. For 4.0.1, you can use the nv driver, or you can go to NVidia's website (http://www.nvidia.com) to download their accelerated server.
using /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
cd /var/cache/apt/archives apt-get install `ls|cut -d_ -f1` You might want to do an apt-get autoclean first. On Sep 14, cls-colo spgs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: debs, i need to reinstall potato (after losing my pcmcia modem to a custom kernel). w/o having to dselect or apt-get over and over, is there a way for the system, with one apt-get command, to get and install the *.deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives? ia, t. bentley taylor (potato on 2.2.17) // -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Neil L. Roeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e-conf for enlightenment
Can anyone tell me where I can find a debian package with e-conf for enlightenment in it? I installed enlightenment, and I've scoured the Debian ftp site, and I can't find it. I'm kind of curious as to why enlightenment would be available without it. AFAIK, e-conf is no longer in Enlightenment. You might check #e on EFNet to be sure, but I seem to recall having read something like this somewhere...
Re: Netscape http://wierdness on startup
Eric G . Miller wrote: Not by chance launching that from a GNOME laucher? I found replacing gnome-moz-remote with communicator (or netscape), made it go away. On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 04:47:07PM -0400, Kent Pirkle wrote: I've been having the same problem. No clue how to fix it. I'm running woody btw. Kent - Yep; that took care of it. Thanks! The other replies are most likely correct as to why but I just wanted it to stop. John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Debian on 16mb ram intels
How can I use dpkg on 16mb box with much software installed ? '(Reading database' step takes awfully lot of time. Nicing -20 doesn't help much. Is there any low-RAM-usage version of dpkg or some other technique can be used to lower its memory needs ? Please CC: me.
OT: signal and pipeline
Hi, This one is for UNIX shell gurus. Pointers to a better forum for the question are most welcome. This is what is giving me a headache: I have a small program that only installs a signal handler for SIGHUP, SIGINT and SIGPIPE and then just loops over sleep(1); printf(hi\n); fflush(stdout) forever. If I start the program from the shell and interrupt it with CTRL-C from the keyboard, the signal handler is called as expected. If I start it in a pipeline, e.g., myprog | tee myprog.log and press CTRL-C, then tee gets SIGINT and exits. myprog also terminates but the signal handler is not called. Why is the signal handler not invoked? What signal does myprog need to look out for and is there a particular trick needed to catch it? Andreas _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: /tmp directory
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 10:45:02PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: these are socket files created by programs that make use of so-called unix domain sockets -- nothing to worry about :) MC identifies this file type with a leading = and color black (at least in its default configuration). The s at the beginning of the permissions-string also stands for socket. Could you tell me what these unix domain sockets are for. What is their job in the system? If you wonder which program created them, you might try to deduce it from the file name (e.g. =mysql.sock would hint you to the Mysql-deamon). As to whether you can delete them: this depends on whether they are still in use by some program. You can usually delete socket files older than the last reboot of the machine -- if you feel better then ;-) these were left over by processes that can no longer be running... And returning to the second part of my earlier message. I don't use emacs. So where do these files come from? Not only emacs, but also many other editors, have the file naming convention of appending a ~ for backup files. So can I say that all file that end with '~' are backup files. Are these files sililar to temporary files that winshit creats? Thanks for your explanations, QBA
Re: e-conf for enlightenment
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 03:09:57PM +0200, Frederik wrote: AFAIK, e-conf is no longer in Enlightenment. You might check #e on EFNet to be sure, but I seem to recall having read something like this somewhere... Yeah, I noticed that you can access all of the configuration options with a right click on the desktop, it's just not pretty. No problems. Thanks, Mike
Adding a Drive Icon [newbie]
I have an IDE internal ZipDrive.. When I boot my machine, I know Linux sees it as hdd.. My question is: how do I add an icon on the desktop like the floppy and cdrom??.. Thanks!! = Shel [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ- 23454126 AIM- CacheMonet Trying to master Storm Linux 2000 http://www.stormix.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: /tmp directory
debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 10:45:02PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: these are socket files created by programs that make use of so-called unix domain sockets -- nothing to worry about :) MC identifies this file type with a leading = and color black (at least in its default configuration). The s at the beginning of the permissions-string also stands for socket. Could you tell me what these unix domain sockets are for. What is their job in the system? They are used for various kinds of inter-process communication, and act in much the same way on the local machine as TCP/IP sockets do on the wider Internet. For instance, the system logging daemon (syslogd) listens on /dev/log, and any program can connect to that socket and write a log message. Not only emacs, but also many other editors, have the file naming convention of appending a ~ for backup files. So can I say that all file that end with '~' are backup files. There's no rule about it, but it's a useful rule of thumb. Are these files sililar to temporary files that winshit creats? Only in the sense that they normally contain data that already exists elsewhere. In the Unix world they're mostly plain text, and thus generally more useful to somebody who doesn't know which program they came from. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Gnome vs. Helix Gnome
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 06:45:58PM -0400, Andy Bastien wrote: They hope to eventually make money off of services: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/236/business/A_user_friendly_face_lift_for_Linux+.shtml Plus, you have to trust them in that the sources that they put up are the ones that they use to build the binaries. I do, but there are some people who insist on compiling everything themselves. A valid worry once commercial interests appear, I'd say. Mike
RE: Can anyone else verify this ???
I have Pacific Bell DSL and I am using the 2.4.0-test7 kernel. I can access both websites just fine. On 16-Sep-2000 George Bonser wrote: Using kernel 2.4-pre8 I can not access www.ibm.com or www.cdw.com yet can access many other sites without problem. If I reboot into 2.2.17, I can access the sites just fine.
Howto make exim not listen on port inet 25
Hi all, A home user typically receives e-mail with a pop program (fetchmail), and therefore he has no use for his MTA _listening_ for incoming mail on inet port 25, am I right? Because I assume fetchmail passes its load on to the MTA via the local interface, 127.0.0.1, isn't it so? Therefore it seems reasonable to have an MTA configured to _not_ listen on the ppp0 interface, while still having the stmp transport enabled for outgoing mail through ppp0 or any other interface besides lo. Can I do this with exim? I've looked but I really couldn't find anything... help! Yes, I know I could firewall incoming traffic for port 25, but first I'm looking for a simple config for exim, if it exists. Would I have more luck with postfix instead? Jose PS: Is there any inetd replacement which can listen selectively on the various interfaces? Maybe this could be a solution for having both exim and leafnode not listening on the inet ports for home users, what do you think??? -- Jose L Marin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept of Mathematics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heriot-Watt University Edinburgh EH14 4AS, U.K. Phone: +44 131 451 3717 Fax: +44 131 451 3249
Re: e-conf for enlightenment
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 10:12:45AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 03:09:57PM +0200, Frederik wrote: AFAIK, e-conf is no longer in Enlightenment. You might check #e on EFNet to be sure, but I seem to recall having read something like this somewhere... Yeah, I noticed that you can access all of the configuration options with a right click on the desktop, it's just not pretty. No problems. Not all the configuration options, at least not on the version I have at work. I kept e-conf from the older enlightenment because there seemed to be no way to set preferences for keypresses and no equivalent to e-conf's background image organiser. If you have/install e-conf, it appears on the enlightenment menu as Legacy admin tool. -- Bruce Wisdom is not the purchase of a day. -- Thomas Paine
Re: OT: signal and pipeline
Today, Andreas Huggel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is the signal handler not invoked? What signal does myprog need to look out for and is there a particular trick needed to catch it? Err. SIGPIPE? Andreas regards, -- Andreas Stefan Fuchs in Real Life aka [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] in NNTP and SMTP, antifuchsin IRCNet and Relf Herbstfresser, Male 1/2 Elf Priest in ADD
RE: Howto make exim not listen on port inet 25
What about local_interfaces in your exim.conf? local_interfaces = 192.168.1.1:127.0.0.1 for example. Just remove the IP address of your ppp interface from the option. -- Andrew On 16-Sep-2000 Jose Marin wrote: Hi all, A home user typically receives e-mail with a pop program (fetchmail), and therefore he has no use for his MTA _listening_ for incoming mail on inet port 25, am I right? Because I assume fetchmail passes its load on to the MTA via the local interface, 127.0.0.1, isn't it so?
Re: e-conf for enlightenment
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 04:18:28PM +0100, Bruce Richardson wrote: Not all the configuration options, at least not on the version I have at work. I kept e-conf from the older enlightenment because there seemed to be no way to set preferences for keypresses and no equivalent to e-conf's background image organiser. If you have/install e-conf, it appears on the enlightenment menu as Legacy admin tool. There would seem to be alot of options in the text files in the .enlightenment directory as well, so maybe you can set all these options by hand. E might overwrite them after it exits though... Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
Re: e-conf for enlightenment
* Bruce Richardson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 10:12:45AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 03:09:57PM +0200, Frederik wrote: AFAIK, e-conf is no longer in Enlightenment. You might check #e on EFNet to be sure, but I seem to recall having read something like this somewhere... Yeah, I noticed that you can access all of the configuration options with a right click on the desktop, it's just not pretty. No problems. Not all the configuration options, at least not on the version I have at work. I kept e-conf from the older enlightenment because there seemed to be no way to set preferences for keypresses and no equivalent to http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/x11/e16keyedit.html This is the new method. e-conf's background image organiser. You could probably use http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/x11/e16menuedit.html to edit the Backgrounds menu. Dunno, not tried it ;-) Tom. -- .^..-. /V\| Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | ID-Pro - http://id-pro.co.uk | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ^^-^^ '-' pgpg1TlxoAOh4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can anyone else verify this ???
Pollywog wrote: I have Pacific Bell DSL and I am using the 2.4.0-test7 kernel. I can access both websites just fine. How about www.3com.com and www.hp.com? These won't come through for me though the www.ibm.com and www.cdw.com sites work fine. Something weird here. On 16-Sep-2000 George Bonser wrote: Using kernel 2.4-pre8 I can not access www.ibm.com or www.cdw.com yet can access many other sites without problem. If I reboot into 2.2.17, I can access the sites just fine. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: corruption during power loss
You can also get more information regarding JFS from the following site : http://www2.software.ibm.com/developer/tools.nsf/dw/linux-projects-byname?Op enDocumentCount=500 Go to the site and select JFS for Linux. The FAQ may be of interest to you guys. Cheers, Saranjit Singh. -Original Message- From: Ethan Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 8:25 AM To: Debian Users List Subject: Re: corruption during power loss On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 10:58:57PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote: On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:13:53PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: your other option is using a Journeling filesystem such as Reiser or ext3 (reiser i think is more mature at this point but still has some serious limitations such as being unsuitable for use on /) It's time for Linux to integrate a journaling FS. Will this be happening with the upcoming 2.4? I mean 'integrated by default'. probably not, from my readings of linux-kernel it appears that the people in charge (Linus Torvalds and Alan Cox)* do not yet feel Reiser is quite ready to be merged into the main kernel tree. i think Alexander Viro the VFS guy also has some issues. The other problem is Linus is getting more conservative about allowing new stuff into 2.4 since the more that is added the longer it will take to finish. Also, which of the journaling FS projects will be the one integrated into the main kernel source tree (sometime)? most likely Reiser will be first since its a bit further along then ext3. But iirc Alan Cox wants to see the Reiser and ext3 journaling layers merged before either goes in. read linux kernel archives or past issues of kernel-cousin on linuxcare. if your interested in the details. * i don't presume to speak for anyone, this is just what i remember reading in the past couple months. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
Re: using /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
Quoting cls-colo spgs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): i need to reinstall potato (after losing my pcmcia modem to a custom kernel). w/o having to dselect or apt-get over and over, is there a way for the system, with one apt-get command, to get and install the *.deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives? What, do you mean the debs are on the machine already? Then just dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*deb Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: superformat?
Quoting Michael Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I guess floppies aren't all that important in a world of the internet, but they're still valuable in the form of boot disks, and small transfers to zero-connectivity machines. Floppies are the only format not keeping pace it would seem. They've been 1.4M for how long now, while harddrives go from 500M - 13Gig standard? There's no point: they're a legacy system. And they *did* raise the capacity to 2.88MB, but I guess their sales proved that it's a wasted effort for such a small gain. OTOH you could argue that superfloppies have pushed their capacity to 120MB: that's a bigger factor than 0.5 to 13. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: superformat?
Quoting William T Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On 14 Sep 2000, John Hasler wrote: floppy. Just seems a little wierd seeing DOS as the default on a Linux manpage... FAT16 is a pretty good format for floppies (that's what it was designed for). Ext2 isn't. ext2 does fine with floppies, it has a little more overhead than DOS, but it also has proper filenames. The problem is that hardly anybody uses ext2 as a floppy format, everyone uses DOS, so that is the default :} With respect, that is not the problem. If you want long filenames on a floppy, you can just mount it vfat instead of msdos. The problem is that PC drives don't have any protection against removing the floppy disk. With a DOS format, this does not matter too much. After a few seconds, you can remove the disk and even replace it with another one (as long as you then type umount and mount before using it). That's because when you umount a DOS format, nothing happens (watch the light). Now try it with an Ext2 format: remove the disk and then umount. You'll get a stream of error messages. Most Linux systems have networking, whereas many DOS systems do not; if a network is available, why use a floppy? Err, I expect there are plenty of people like me who keep a machine at home in sync with work by using a floppy. (OK, I used to, but now I uses a zip disk in the same manner.) I'm not going to do this over the phone even if I own shares in BT! Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: superformat?
Quoting Immanuel Yap ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Thu Sep 14, 2000, Michael Soulier wrote: On 14 Sep 2000, John Hasler wrote: Yeah, I suppose. Out of curiousity, what format is used on zip drives running under Linux? I've never used one. Do they have their own format, ala CDROMS with iso9660? I don't think John Hasler wrote that. ZIP drives are treated as hard drives: /dev/hd[a-d]4, if you have the IDE version. Most (all?) ZIP disks come preformatted for PC (vfat) or FAT16 I believe. The vfat module will use long filenames on them. Mac (HPFS?). You're perfectly free, of course, to reformat the disk as ext2. Do remember that the tools disks arrive in a very strange format which should be regularised with the reclaim utility before you try and reformat them. I must admit that I find the most satisfactory compromise with floppies and zip disks is to use them entirely with zip files. This (1) preserves all the ownerships/permissions and so on, (2) increases their capacity, (3) insures against unnoticed file corruption, (4) allows one to extract the odd file on foreign OSes (DOS/Mac) and (5) means that users of aforesaid OSes recognise the disk as unbroken if they happen to insert it into their machine. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Can anyone else verify this ???
On 16-Sep-2000 Stan Kaufman wrote: Pollywog wrote: I have Pacific Bell DSL and I am using the 2.4.0-test7 kernel. I can access both websites just fine. How about www.3com.com and www.hp.com? These won't come through for me though the www.ibm.com and www.cdw.com sites work fine. Something weird here. Yep, those work for me too. The www.3com.com site is rather amusing. -- Andrew
Re: advanced power management and linux?
Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a purpose for the power supply fan you know. I had one going on the fritz ( running slow and stopping at times). I ran it this way for 6mo or so. Then all at once my hd started going haywire. Short story: I had to replace the hd and power supply. Dean 6 months is a long time.. sounds to me like you either didn't notice it was stopping, or else you enjoyed the peace and quiet too much to do anything about it! Also it's not clear from the context that the hd failure was related to the fan problem. Right now I've moved the P/S outside the case. This leaves a hole for hot air to escape from the case, and keeps the red-hot,glowing,smoking P/S from heating the other components. lm-sensors says: temp: +33.62 C fan2: 3901 RPM Not sure what this means but it doesn't sound too dramatic, we'll see how my P/S takes it. Sticking some heat sinks on it today. -chris
Re: Howto make exim not listen on port inet 25
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 04:11:52PM +0100, Jose Marin wrote: PS: Is there any inetd replacement which can listen selectively on the various interfaces? Maybe this could be a solution for having both exim and leafnode not listening on the inet ports for home users, what do you think??? There is tcpserver, which I think does this. http://www.rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=903 suggests using tcpserver instead of inetd for this reason, but I've no personal experience of the software. It's available from http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html (You actually specify the IP address at which you want to listen rather than the interface name, but in the scenario you describe I think that this should suffice.) Best wishes, Terry Boon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 iD8DBQE5w6NpB+GG7A6DEUARAn3+AKDhAXLTC15x0T+IEWQii1h7XbNNsQCfXsrU xxG/LLnD+kQPaCFdgePTjpE= =ynaO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Can anyone else verify this ???
here. Yep, those work for me too. The www.3com.com site is rather amusing. -- Andrew I found the source of the problem ... I had turned on the Explicit Congestion Notification option in the networking options of the 2.4-test8 kernel. There was no help available on this option to explain more completely what it does or what the programmer THINKS it should do. What it does is break TCP connections to quite a few places on the net.
more than 64 megs ram?
Hey Guys, I've totally forgotten what to do if you have more than 64 megs ram in a machine. I have 128 megs in one of my machines, but it is not coming up for me. I was also wondering another way to identify how much ram is in a mcahine other than using 'top'. Thanks, D. Ghost 'space ghost flying to M33 using debian auto pilot.'
RE: Staroffice on Debian Potato
At 09.22 15/9/00 +0800, CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] ha escrit: Yup...installed 5.2 over the weekend.so far no problemshowever, the Starwriter files saved as Word 5, Word 9X and Word 2000 was not compatible..i.e. when I tried opening these files in Word 97, it said something about file permissions.in Windoze 95!!! It can happen that the guilty one is M$ Word. I've heard from a reliable person that even Word 97 can convert in a bad manner another Word document from another Word 97 program. Ignasi P.S. M$ /dev/null This one is good! ---\ From Barcelona... \ \\___ / / ___\_'_\ Still nationalizing the LAN! /\¬___/ --/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Which Netscape to use?
At 12.38 16/9/00 +0200, Kjetil Ødegaard ha escrit: * Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry Group, this must be very FAQ. I would like some advice to which Netscape to get for my 2.2 Helix-gnome laptop. If I check the stable files, I find numerous installers with different numbers. I am a bit lost. Any suggestions? My advice would be to install the 4.75 version, which has a fix for the `Brown Orifice' vulnerability. In order to deal with the lots of different packages... Take the biggest one, and dselect will annoy about dependencies. Follow its demands and there will be no problems. But it's not this way if you just want Navigator instead of Communicator :) I also adhere to 4.75 choose. Sorry Group, this must be very FAQ. Actually I think that you will can always solve that kind of problems reading 'Packages' text files. I always have them copied in the HDD. They are very helpful. When I had Debian Hamm and dselect was quite slow, I did manual dselect with dpkg and the Packages files (which is the same as slow, but it's more funny) :) Best, Ignasi ---\ From Barcelona... \ \\___ / / ___\_'_\ Still nationalizing the LAN! /\¬___/ --/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: more than 64 megs ram?
hi ghost, to tell linux you have 999MB of ram, put the following in the append line of your lilo.conf: mem=999M then run lilo, of course. :-) you can find this information and more in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/memory.txt. you can see how much memory linux sees by: cat /proc/meminfo i'm pretty sure that anything that reports memory stats uses the /proc interface. any hardware related information that you possibly may want is in /proc including interrupts, PCI devices, CPU information, memory usage, etc. my girlfriend and i just watched 'the island of dr. moreau' with marlon brando and val kilmer. damn, is that a great movie!! i now understand the joke on south park with the genetic engineer and his litle sidekick.. ;) pete linux One world, one web, one program. -- Microsoft Ad Campaign_ Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer. -- Nazi Ad Campaign._. =+/\/-=Prevent world domination, Install Linux today!=-\/\+=/v\ website coming soon as I get DSL[EMAIL PROTECTED] // \\ ^^ ^^ The best way to accelerate a win95 system is at 9.81 m/s^2 rules On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Debian Ghost wrote: Hey Guys, I've totally forgotten what to do if you have more than 64 megs ram in a machine. I have 128 megs in one of my machines, but it is not coming up for me. I was also wondering another way to identify how much ram is in a mcahine other than using 'top'. Thanks, D. Ghost 'space ghost flying to M33 using debian auto pilot.' -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: preparing to install debian
Bob Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BE (1) how do i configure debian for dsl ? It depends on the sort of DSL modem you have. I think there's a generic sort that connects with an RJ45 patch cable to a normal Ethernet card; in this case, the problem reduces to one of setting up an Ethernet card (and possibly DHCP). BE (2) What do I have to do to get debian to recognize all three of my hard BE drives ? Probably nothing, especially if all three are IDE. You can use fdisk or cfdisk to partition the other drives, mke2fs to create filesystems on other partitions, and add those other filesystems to /etc/fstab. Alternatively, you can leave those hard drives with FAT partitions (assuming that's what they have now), and Linux can read those directly, again with an appropriate line in /etc/fstab. BE (3) what do I have to do to be able to dual boot to either debian (yea) BE or windows 98 (boo!!) ? You'd need to configure your boot loader appropriately. LILO is the most popular one; I use and like GRUB. In either case, you'll kind of need to read the documentation. This is a pretty common set-up, though. BE (4) what is this potato that I keep reading about? Potato is the latest stable release of Debian GNU/Linux, also sometimes known as Debian GNU/Linux 2.2. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
gnome-users-guide
So, I install the gnome-help package, which in turn installs the gnome-help-data package, both from helixcode. However, when I try to do anything with the help browser, it tells me that I'm missing things like the gnome-users-manual. Now, I can find that on the Debian site, but why isn't there a debian package for it on the Helixcode site? Unless I've missed it. Their Debian support is nice, considering how rpms are ruling the world of Linux lately, but it seems lacking. The icons on the webpages of their package listings are broken too. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
Re: Howto make exim not listen on port inet 25
Maybe the correct answer for this user is not to use exim at all but to use ssmtp which is, I think, the tool designed for this job. From the package description: A secure, effective and simple way of getting mail off a system to your mailhub. It contains no suid-binaries or other dangerous things - no mail spool to poke around in, and no daemons running in the background. Mail is simply forwarded to the configured mailhost. Extremely easy configuration. WARNING: the above is all it does - it does not receive mail, expand aliases or manage a queue. That belongs on a mailhub with a system administrator. On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Jose Marin wrote: Hi all, A home user typically receives e-mail with a pop program (fetchmail), and therefore he has no use for his MTA _listening_ for incoming mail on inet port 25, am I right? Because I assume fetchmail passes its load on to the MTA via the local interface, 127.0.0.1, isn't it so? Therefore it seems reasonable to have an MTA configured to _not_ listen on the ppp0 interface, while still having the stmp transport enabled for outgoing mail through ppp0 or any other interface besides lo. Can I do this with exim? I've looked but I really couldn't find anything... help! Yes, I know I could firewall incoming traffic for port 25, but first I'm looking for a simple config for exim, if it exists. Would I have more luck with postfix instead? Jose PS: Is there any inetd replacement which can listen selectively on the various interfaces? Maybe this could be a solution for having both exim and leafnode not listening on the inet ports for home users, what do you think??? -- Jose L Marin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept of Mathematics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heriot-Watt University Edinburgh EH14 4AS, U.K. Phone: +44 131 451 3717 Fax: +44 131 451 3249 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[hugovdm@mail.com: Re: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated?]
I forwarded the initial question to debian-user, I might as well send this as well. - Forwarded message from Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:07:48 +0200 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from hugo on Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:37:48PM +0200 Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:37:48PM +0200, hugo wrote: XF86Setup generates invalid modelines on my machine. They all (all resolutions up to 1024x768) have dotclocks of 65.15, which is only valid for 1024x768. The test performed just before saving the config file, works perfectly - why does the config file not match this test? To sort-of answer my own question: I think this is related to the fact that I have a laptop, and the way an LCD screen works. I'm trying to find out more about it now. (It would help to know how XF86Setup gets its modelines - I think xvidtune does the same, it also gets invalid mode lines...) Maybe laptops do not use hsync or vsync at all - and the lct always expects 65.15 dotclock, and the card always gives this - the only problem is that the modes appear invalid because of hsync or vsync settings? I am speculating, and have too little knowledge on the matter to know whether I am uttering rubbish. I'll continue my quest for better laptop support on the debian-laptop mailing list. Thanks, Hugo van der Merwe - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| I am sorry, but what you have mistaken Debian GNU/Linux | for malicious intent is nothing more [EMAIL PROTECTED] | than sheer incompetence! http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | -- J. L. Rizzo II pgpOpgaXozfEy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cron.daily and slrnpull
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:43:15AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: I configured slrnpull to run only on demand, but cron.daily keeps trying to run it every morning. As I am only connected to my ISP intermittently this is wrong. How do I change this (apart from deleting the entry in cron.daily, which doesn't seem to be right)? I deleted the entry in cron.daily and haven't had any side effects that I can see. (yet...?) -- Thank you, Joe Bouchard Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
mirror web server
Hi, I'm looking for a program (fast and reliable with recursive grabbing) that will mirror any URL with all files and links. Something like teleport pro for windows. Any suggestions? Thanks 4 help, QBA
Re: mirror web server
QBA wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a program (fast and reliable with recursive grabbing) that will mirror any URL with all files and links. Something like teleport pro for windows. Any suggestions? wget -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. pgpjvK9FoEiUE.pgp Description: PGP signature
How I make imp package run
I install the package imp with 2.2 version end not run. Why?
Re: System sees only 65M of memory
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Mirek Kwasniak wrote: On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 09:33:11PM +0200, Floods wrote: append=mem=192m Grub has own memory detection metod Then it doesn't work...My system sees only 64M if I don't specify 'mem=192m' but lilo doesn't has any. Your append-mem exaples are bad, it should be mem=192M (not mem=192m). This is not true. From the BootPrompt-HOWTO: The `mem=' Argument ... Note that the argument does not have to be in hex, and the suffixes `k' and `M' (case insensitive) can be used to specify kilobytes and Megabytes, respectively. (A `k' will cause a 10 bit shift on your value, and a `M' will cause a 20 bit shift.) A typical example for a 128MB machine would be mem=128m. -- Floods e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
awe 64 gold sound card - help!
i have an awe64 gold sound card, and i'm having a heck of a time configuring it. part of the problem is that the instructions given in the debian package seem to be out of date, and isapnp is a subject i know very little about. i followed the instructions to the letter, but am on shaky ground for: 7b. Edit isapnp.conf file. Comment out the appropriate lines containing desirable I/O ports, DMA and IRQs. Don't forget to enable (ACT Y) line. 7c. Add two i/o ports (0xA20 and 0xE20) in WaveTable part. ex) (CONFIGURE CTL0048/58128 (LD 2 # ANSI string --WaveTable-- (IO 0 (BASE 0x0620)) (IO 1 (BASE 0x0A20)) (IO 2 (BASE 0x0E20)) (ACT Y) )) 7d. Load the config file. CAUTION: This will reset all PnP cards! first, it seems like EVERYTHING is commented out in the dump of pnpdump, so i simply added the lines given in step 7c. unfortunately, isapnp didn't like them. it complained: Don't know what to do with CONFIGURE CTL0048/58128 (LD 2 on or around line 342 /etc/isapnp.conf:342 -- Fatal - Error occurred parsing config file --- no action taken i can get the soundcard to work using the OSS commercial sound drivers, but for some reason, they seem to be incompatible with quake 3, and the kernel sound drivers work fine with it (this was when i was using the creative PCI-128 sound card). is there anyone out there with an awe64/awe32 who got it to work? can someone hold my hand through the configuration? thanks! pete linux One world, one web, one program. -- Microsoft Ad Campaign_ Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer. -- Nazi Ad Campaign._. =+/\/-=Prevent world domination, Install Linux today!=-\/\+=/v\ website coming soon as I get DSL[EMAIL PROTECTED] // \\ ^^ ^^ The best way to accelerate a win95 system is at 9.81 m/s^2 rules
rsync trouble
Hi, I'm using rsync to make a mirror of Debian - for a long time it had worked very well, but suddenly this error appears: Resource temporarily unavailable I'm using a command similar to this: rsync -avr ftp.sunet.se::pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian/dists/potato/contrib/binary-all/ /home/ftp/pub/linux/distributions/debian/dists/potato/contrib/binary-all/ If I'll try it on my other box it works fine (they are both Debian Woody) Does anyone have a clue why this is happing ? Thanks, Allan Ps, sorry if this message have been showed before, but the last time I posted it - it returned with an error.
Re: finding a tarball on a fat-less fat partition--disk editor? (fwd)
to: du reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: finding a tarball on a fat-less fat partition--disk editor? In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:28:34 EDT. [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 A tar file comes in blocks of 512 bytes. First is the filename and then comes other things including the word ustar. After this header comes the file and then comes many more header/file combinations. So you should see ustar as many times as there are files in your tar file. If you want all the gory details, download the tar source package and read tar.h. yikes, I can do without the gory details :) does this mean that once I find a block of a tar, I can start extracting, even if it wasn't the middle? And now that I think of it, someone mentioned that there are bad disk editors available for linux. I just realized that I can't use the same method I sed on an ext2 on a fat (unless it grew inodes while I wasn't looking :) Or should I just start using dd if=/dev/hda7 skip=1| tar -tvf - and incrementing the skip until I hit something (I think these two files would be the only ones ever to be created on that partition). thanks hawk --
Re: Howto make exim not listen on port inet 25
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, George Bonser wrote: Maybe the correct answer for this user is not to use exim at all but to use ssmtp which is, I think, the tool designed for this job. Thanks, I didn't know this existed. WARNING: the above is all it does - it does not receive mail, expand aliases or manage a queue. That belongs on a mailhub with a system administrator. Mmmm... I still think it's useful to have a queue, so that you can write e-mail off-line, and have it all sent off next time you connect. And anyway, would fetchmail be able to deliver the mail to the user if one replaces exim with this? Cheers, Jose -- Jose L Marin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept of Mathematics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heriot-Watt University Edinburgh EH14 4AS, U.K. Phone: +44 131 451 3717 Fax: +44 131 451 3249
Re: rsync trouble
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 20:33:56 +0200, Swoop wrote: I'm using rsync to make a mirror of Debian - for a long time it had worked very well, but suddenly this error appears: Resource temporarily unavailable Does anyone have a clue why this is happing ? Your system is running out of some of its resources (e.g. memory, processes/threads). You could try running strace -f -o /tmp/strace.log on the rsync command and studying the log file this generates. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Howto make exim not listen on port inet 25
Probably not. What you probably should do in your case is to tell exim to listen only to 127.0.0.1. ssmtp is not designed to store mail locally on the system. It moves responsiblity for storing local mail to the MUA. On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Jose Marin wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, George Bonser wrote: Maybe the correct answer for this user is not to use exim at all but to use ssmtp which is, I think, the tool designed for this job. Thanks, I didn't know this existed. WARNING: the above is all it does - it does not receive mail, expand aliases or manage a queue. That belongs on a mailhub with a system administrator. Mmmm... I still think it's useful to have a queue, so that you can write e-mail off-line, and have it all sent off next time you connect. And anyway, would fetchmail be able to deliver the mail to the user if one replaces exim with this? Cheers, Jose -- Jose L Marin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept of Mathematics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heriot-Watt University Edinburgh EH14 4AS, U.K. Phone: +44 131 451 3717 Fax: +44 131 451 3249
