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Re: Oracle 8.0.5

2000-10-16 Thread Carlos López
Simplemente necesitas las antiguas librerías glibc
2.0, con las glibc 2.1 esa versión de Oracle no
funciona. Tienes que ir a technet.oracle.com y
descargar el parche de Oracle y seguir las
instrucciones 

--- Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:  
  Saludos a [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  Tengo un problema insoluble con Oracle 8.0.5 para
 Linux.
  El caso es que la tuve instalada en Debian 2.0.36 y
 corria bien
 (utilizaba libtcl7.6 ) pero ahora con Potato no hay
 forma de instalarla.
 
  La instalacion da un error cuando crea la base de
 datos en starnick.sql
  He intentado instalar solo el server sin crear base
 de datos pero el 
 asunto arranca desde el svrmgrl que da Segmentation
 fault.O
 curre lo mismo  con la mayor parte de los
 ejecutables que instala ,
 excepto con el lsnrctl que rula ( a veces ).
 
  Me he instalado tcl7.5 (recomendada por Oracle) por
 si acaso es un 
 conflicto de versiones de  librerias pero todo sigue
 igual.
 
  Ahi va el final de la traza del svrmgrl
 
 antioco:/DATA/u01/app/oracle/product/8.0.5/bin#
 strace ./svrmgrl
 
 .
 .
 .
 brk(0x80c7000)  = 0x80c7000
 brk(0x80c9000)  = 0x80c9000
 old_mmap(NULL, 143360, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
 -1, 0) = 0x404ab000
 old_mmap(NULL, 143360, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
 -1, 0) = 0x404ce000
 old_mmap(NULL, 143360, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
 -1, 0) = 0x404f1000
 open(svrmgr/mesg/mgrus.msb, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
 (No such file or
 directory)
 open(svrmgr/mesg/mgrus.msb, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
 (No such file or
 directory)
 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
 +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
 
 antioco:/DATA/u01/app/oracle/product/8.0.5/bin# l
 ../svrmgr/mesg
 total 184
 -rw-r--r--1 oracle   dba 41984 Sep 29 
 1998 mgrus.msb
 -rw-r--r--1 oracle   dba135382 Sep 29 
 1998 mgrus.msg
 
  El fichero existe y es leible ¿Donde esta el
 problema ?
  Aunque el SIGSEGV puede venir de antes. No?
  
  Ahi va la traza completa de trcroute
  
 antioco:/DATA/u01/app/oracle/product/8.0.5/bin#
 strace ./trcroute
 
 execve(./trcroute, [./trcroute], [/* 23 vars
 */]) = 0
 brk(0)  = 0x82f5ce8
 open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT
 (No such file or
 directory)
 open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=15498, ...})
 = 0
 old_mmap(NULL, 15498, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0)
 = 0x40014000
 close(3)= 0
 open(/lib/libnsl.so.1, O_RDONLY)  = 3
 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=76080, ...})
 = 0
 read(3,

\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\360?\0...,
 4096) = 4096
 old_mmap(NULL, 88296, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC,
 MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =
 0x40018000
 mprotect(0x4002a000, 14568, PROT_NONE)  = 0
 old_mmap(0x4002a000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
 3, 0x11000) = 0x4002a000
 old_mmap(0x4002c000, 6376, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
 0x4002c000
 close(3)= 0
 open(/lib/libm.so.6, O_RDONLY)= 3
 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=116544,
 ...}) = 0
 read(3,

\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220F\0...,
 4096) = 4096
 old_mmap(NULL, 117720, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC,
 MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =
 0x4002e000
 mprotect(0x4004a000, 3032, PROT_NONE)   = 0
 old_mmap(0x4004a000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
 3, 0x1b000) = 0x4004a000
 close(3)= 0
 open(/lib/libdl.so.2, O_RDONLY)   = 3
 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=9372, ...})
 = 0
 read(3,

\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\310\34...,
 4096) = 4096
 old_mmap(NULL, 12396, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC,
 MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =
 0x4004b000
 mprotect(0x4004d000, 4204, PROT_NONE)   = 0
 old_mmap(0x4004d000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
 3, 0x1000) = 0x4004d000
 close(3)= 0
 open(/lib/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY)= 3
 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=888596,
 ...}) = 0
 read(3,

\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\244\213...,
 4096) = 4096
 old_mmap(NULL, 902972, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC,
 MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =
 0x4004f000
 mprotect(0x40124000, 30524, PROT_NONE)  = 0
 old_mmap(0x40124000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
 3, 0xd4000) = 0x40124000
 old_mmap(0x40128000, 14140, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
 0x40128000
 close(3)= 0
 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
 -1, 0) = 0x4012c000
 munmap(0x40014000, 15498)   = 0
 personality(PER_LINUX)  = 0
 getpid()= 1593
 brk(0)  = 0x82f5ce8
 brk(0x82f5e00)  = 0x82f5e00
 brk(0x82f6000)  = 0x82f6000
 brk(0x82f7000)  = 

Re: Quedada debianera en la Universitat de València

2000-10-16 Thread Ignacio Garcia Fernandez

A mi me vendría bien la semana del 23. Preferiblemente jueves. Por cierto,
ahora mismo, ¿Quiénes somos?
Virgilio, Marta, Jordi, yo,... creo que hay alguien más, pero ahora mismo
no caigo.

MANIFESTAAAOoOoOS, seres de Valencia!


On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Virgilio Gómez Rubio wrote:

 Hola:
 
  Hace tiempo mandé un mensaje sugiriendo una quedad debianera en el campus
 de Burjassot de la Universitat de València, pero no concretamos ninguna
 fecha. ¿Cuándo podríamos quedar?
 
   Personalmente me da igual porque literalmente vivo en el campus :-D Sé
 que hay gente que trabaja hasta tarde y puede que una buena hora sea las
 6-7 de la tarde.
 
 Lo mejor es que cada uno diga cuando puede y fijamos una fecha por
 consenso. ¿Qué os parece?
 
  Saludos.
 
 
  Virgilio
 
 P.S: El 18-19 no creo que pueda.
 
 
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unstable

2000-10-16 Thread Carles Pina i Estany

Hola

La rama unstable es usable ahora?

hace un par de semanas leí que hacian cambios con la libc y no era
demasiado recomdable, y ahora como está?

gracias!


Carles Pina i Estany
   E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || #ICQ: 14446118 || Nick: Teufeus / Pine
   URL: http://www.salleurl.edu/~is08139
   Di NO a la droga, somos muchos y hay poca.



Re: unstable

2000-10-16 Thread Jaume Teixi


Carles Pina i Estany wrote:

 hace un par de semanas leí que hacian cambios con la libc y no era
 demasiado recomdable, y ahora como está?

sin problemas por ahora con libc6 2.1.95

salu2
jaume



Re: Quedada debianera en la Universitat de València

2000-10-16 Thread Jaume Teixi
'A mi me vendría bien la semana del 23. Preferiblemente jueves. Por cierto,

 ahora mismo, ¿Quiénes somos?

yo tb me apunto !

salutforça
jaume.



Re: Quedada debianera en la Universitat de València

2000-10-16 Thread Juan C. Amengual
Ignacio Garcia Fernandez wrote:

 A mi me vendría bien la semana del 23. Preferiblemente jueves. Por cierto,
 ahora mismo, ¿Quiénes somos?
 Virgilio, Marta, Jordi, yo,... creo que hay alguien más, pero ahora mismo
 no caigo.

 MANIFESTAAAOoOoOS, seres de Valencia!


Yo trabajo en Castellón, pero vivo en Torrente (Valencia). Los viernes suelo 
estar en la Univ.
Politécnica (por cuestiones de un proyecto). Si quedáis un viernes, a lo mejor 
puedo ir. Avisad
con tiempo de la hora y lugar y, si las circunstancias familiares no lo impiden 
(tengo un nano
de 11 meses de edad), nos veremos allí. Gracias.

Saludos,



JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALA hundred years of blood, crimson the ribbon
UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I tightens round my throat. I open my mouth
DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMÁTICA and my head bursts open. A sound like a tiger
CAMPUS DE RIU SEC, EDIFICIO TI  thrashing in the water, thrashing in the water.
CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.Over and over, we die one after the other.
Phone: +34 964 728361   Robert Smith (The Cure)
Fax: +34 964 728435 - One hundred years, Pornography,
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   1982, Fiction Rec. -







Re: Quedada debianera en la Universitat de València

2000-10-16 Thread Marta Pla i Castells

At 12:45 16/10/2000 +0200, Jaume Teixi wrote:

'A mi me vendría bien la semana del 23. Preferiblemente jueves. Por cierto,

 ahora mismo, ¿Quiénes somos?



Bueno, pues parece que ya somos más. A mi también me viene bien el jueves 
26 así que si no hay contraorden, nos vemos ese día.


Saludos Marta.


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mi cinta de backup se pone rebelde

2000-10-16 Thread Eduardo Fernandez
Hola lista,

Tengo una potato recien instalada en un equipo con cinta DAT DDS2 HS, scsi,
y he puesto un cron para hacer un backup todas las noches. La gente solo
tiene que preoucparse de que la cinta etiquetada con el nombre del día en el
que estamos esté en la unidad.

Eso en teoría, porque a los pocos minutos de meter una cinta en la unidad,
ésta la expulsa automáticamente y claro, no se hace la copia.

¿Como se puede controlar esta autoexpulsión de la cinta?

Gracias anticipadas y un saludo.
--
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Sistelnet Integraciones Telemáticas - http://www.sistelnet.es
NUEVOS TELEFONOS: 95-4186897 95-4186898 902-293030 Fax: 954186901



Re: URL pa'bajarse los CDs de la Potato

2000-10-16 Thread Juan C. Amengual
Por zanjar el thread abierto por mí mismo ... y de paso agradecer a Andrés 
Seco, Faro y Daniel
Payno (espero no haberme olvidado de nadie) por sus respuestas y a todos los 
demás por vuestra
atención.

Juan C. Amengual wrote:

 Hola,

 al final he localizado este sitio:

  ftp://ftp.gul.uc3m.es/imagenes_oficiales_debian/2.2_rev0/

De aquí es dónde he pillado las imágenes (4 CD's). Agradezcamos a Daniel el 
hecho de mantener ese
mirrorsite. Las imágenes tienen extensión .iso.

 en total hay 4 ficheros .iso (3 free + 1 de non-free). He visto que en este 
 lugar hay también
 un directorio llamado imágenes debian donde sí están las imágenes .raw. 
 Preguntas:

 1) ¿Es que acaso no son estas las imágenes oficiales?

Sí, lo son (o al menos lo parecen).


 2) ¿Debo descargar entonces los CD's oficiales de Potato de la URL anterior?

Sí. Usad  ftp://ftp.gul.uc3m.es/imagenes_oficiales_debian/2.2_rev0/

 3) Para quemar los CD's basta con renombrar los .iso a .raw y usar Xcdroast 
 por ejemplo, ¿me
 equivoco?

No, no me equivoco. Lo de renombrar es para que el Xcdroast vea los ficheros 
(trabaja con
.raw), pero seguramente tampoco haría mucha falta. Los he grabado como 
RockRidge+Windows95/NT y
no ha habido ningún problema. Puse el primer CD en el portátil y, 
efectivamente, arrancó el
programa de instalación, He mirado un poco por encima los contenidos y no he 
echado a faltar
nada. Lo que no he hecho ha sido instalar una Potato con ellos. Todos los 
ordenadores que
controlo aquí tienen Potato instalada mediante dselect_con_apt via ftp contra 
el mirrorsite de
Alemania (... es una bala). Los CDs son para un colega ... Si me notifica algún 
problema ya os lo
diré, pero no me dió la impresión de que pueda tenerlos.

 4) Si quiero conseguir el (o los) CD's con el código fuente, ¿dónde puedo 
 pillar las imágenes?

Consúltese en cdimages.debian.org, tal como me dijo el propio Daniel Payno.

Saludos,



JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALA hundred years of blood, crimson the ribbon
UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I tightens round my throat. I open my mouth
DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMÁTICA and my head bursts open. A sound like a tiger
CAMPUS DE RIU SEC, EDIFICIO TI  thrashing in the water, thrashing in the water.
CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.Over and over, we die one after the other.
Phone: +34 964 728361   Robert Smith (The Cure)
Fax: +34 964 728435 - One hundred years, Pornography,
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   1982, Fiction Rec. -







Re: Telefónica vende su Router ADSL 3com Bloqueado.Pero hay solucion que se jodan

2000-10-16 Thread Sergio Valdivielso Gomez
Rodolfo García escribió:
 
 Sí, mucha gente lo sabiamos, antes de que las voces suenen a gritos. Ahora lo 
 cambiarán y los que vengan despues se joderán. Las cosas se hacen con más 
 estilo que voceandolas. El que quiere algo, lo busca, no espera que alguien 
 se lo diga.
 
 Enhorabuena para los que tienen ADSL por que ellos disfrutarán de su router, 
 los que esperamos tenerla nos joderemos.
 
 Un saludo.
 
 On mié, 11 oct 2000, Sergio Valdivielso Gomez escribió:
 
   Navegando por la red he encontrado este documento, que soluciona el
   problema del router adsl 3com que venden los cabrones de telefonica,creo
   que merece el interés general
   »Telefónica vende su Router ADSL 3com Bloqueado.
  
   Telefónica Data instala últimamente este router cuando se contrata ADSL.
   Pero le ponen un montón de trabas para que los propios usuarios no
   tengan
   acceso al router.
  
   ¿Que hace Telefónica?
   Lo primero que hace (si lo hace) es ir un 'cualificado' instalador a
   configurar tu router y comprobar que todo 'funciona' bien.
  
   ¿Que descubrimos cuando se va?
   Cuando se va el señor tan majo, cogemos la caja del router y que nos
   encontramos... NADA!, ni CD de instalación ni manual de instrucciones ni
   nada de nada. Así que ser avispados y por lo menos copiar el CD q trae
   el
   instalador a vuestro HD.
  
   Llamamos a Telefónica y es que eso se da así. Sin CD y sin manual. Pues
   que
   bien. A dar vueltas por www.3com.com y a buscar el pdf con el manual.
  
   Cuando nos bajamos el manual y lo leemos por encima vemos que ¡anda!
   pero si
   podemos configurar el router a través del navegador y telnet!!. Abrimos
   el
   navegador y escribimos http://10.0.0.1 (que suele ser la IP que te ponen
   en
   el router). Tras un rato descubrimos que ahí nada responde... nos vamos
   al
   telnet y tres cuartos de lo mismo.
  
   ¿Qué ocurre?
   Si nos fijamos el instalador ha conectado el router a nuestro PC por un
   puerto serie, y si leemos un poco mas el pdf pone que si nos conectamos
   al
   puerto serie es como si fuera un telnet.
  
   Abrimos el terminal y lo configuramos así:
   Conexión:   COM1 (depende de tu PC, puede ser el 1 o el 2)
   Bits por segundo:  9600
   Bits de datos:7
   Paridad:E (espacio, S en ingles)
   Bits de parada:   1
  
   Le damos a conectar y nos dice:
  
   Login:
  
   Nos pregunta el nombre de usuario. Bueno, no pasa nada, en el pdf que os
   habéis bajado viene un LOGIN y PASSWORD por defecto en todos los
   routers,
   así que los ponemos, y dice:
  
   Login: root
   Password: !root
   Login incorrect.
  
   Incorrecto!... los de Telefónica han borrado el usuario por defecto...
   En
   fin, siempre hay gente que habla mas de la cuenta, y gracias a eso
   sabemos
   el usuario y contraseña.
  
   Login: adminttd
   Password: adminttd
   3Com-DSL
  
   Estamos Dentro, bueno, ahora hay que ver por que no podemos configurar
   el
   router ni por web ni por telnet. Esto es por que los de la Telefónica
   nos
   han instalado en el router 2 filtros que se encargan de lo siguiente:
  
   -Por un lado deniegan el acceso a cualquier IP a los puertos 80 y 23.
  
   -Por otro lado PERMITE el acceso a una determinada IP (195...) que debe
   ser
   de telefónica.
  
   O sea, que les compramos un router y ¿solo pueden manejarlo ellos? pero
   bueno esto tiene arreglo. Haced lo siguiente:
  
   3Com-DSLdelete filter filtro
   3Com-DSLdelete filter filtro2
  
   Ya están borrados. Ahora solo queda guardarlo para que si se resetea no
   se
   pierda.
  
   3Com-DSLsave all
   Saving. SAVE ALL
   SAVE ALL  Complete
  
   Ya esta. Ahora corréis un riesgo, y es que habéis abierto el puerto 80 y
   23
   a toda Internet, con lo cual cualquiera puede acceder con el usuario y
   clave
   de telefónica (adminttd). Así que... haced lo siguiente. Cread un
   usuario y
   borrar el otro, por ejemplo:
  
  3Com-DSLadd user administrador password clave_personal
  3Com-DSLdelete user adminttd
  3Com-DSLsave all
  Saving. SAVE ALL
  SAVE ALL  Complete
  
   Ahora habéis creado un usuario cuyo Login es administrador y la clave es
   'clave_personal' (sustituid clave_personal por la q queráis). Además
   habéis
   borrado el usuario adminttd y guardado toda la configuración.
  
   Ahora ya podéis abrir el navegador y poner http://10.0.0.1 Así ya
   podréis
   ver como configurarlo todo.
  
   Perfecto, pero... ¿ahora que?
   Pues ahora ya depende mucho de vosotros. Si lo único que queréis tener
   conexión a Internet, ya vale como esta, pero si queréis servicios
   adicionales como poder hacer DCC's u alojar tu propia web... seguid
   leyendo.
  
   ¿Por que no puedo hacer DCC's?
   Un DCC es una conexión directa desde vuestro PC hasta el PC de otra
   persona.
   Esta conexión usa el puerto 59 de vuestro PC para establecerse. El
   router
   esta configurado para que todas las peticiones a cualquier 

Re: Telefónica vende su Router ADSL 3com Bloqueado.Pero hay solucion que se jodan

2000-10-16 Thread TooMany
On Mon, 16 de Oct de 2000, a las 02:35:19PM +, Sergio Valdivielso Gomez 
wrote:
 Siento enormemente haberme equivocado intentando ayudar a la lista con
 el tema del router 3Com y sobre todo herir a personas de esta lista
 proclamandolo a voces.
 Pido perdon por intentar ayudar.

No te preocupes Sergio, la intención es lo que cuenta, y a buen seguro que a 
más de uno has ayudado... :))
Lo que no tiene perdón es responder un emilio sin quitar lo que no interesa de 
enmedio... como éste que estoy respondiendo. Si no llego a borrar lo que ponía 
(que no nos sirve ahora para nada), y vamos respondiéndolo añadiéndole algo, 
puede llegar a ser kilométrico, ocupar un huevo, y ser muy molesto.
No quiero que te lo tomes a mal, esto me ha pasado a mí mismo (por no mencionar 
cosas peores...). Somos humanos y, como tales, erramos.

Nos vemos, y por lo que a mí respecta; muchísimas gracias por lo del router 
ADSL, de verdad XDDD

-- 
Manuel Trujillo Albarral - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Administrador de Sistemas
ATILON INET S.L. - http://www.atilon.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Telefónica vende su Router ADSL 3com Bloqueado.Pero h ay solucion que se jodan

2000-10-16 Thread Marta Pla i Castells

At 15:46 16/10/2000 +0200, TooMany wrote:
On Mon, 16 de Oct de 2000, a las 02:35:19PM +, Sergio Valdivielso 
Gomez wrote:

 Siento enormemente haberme equivocado intentando ayudar a la lista con
 el tema del router 3Com y sobre todo herir a personas de esta lista
 proclamandolo a voces.
 Pido perdon por intentar ayudar.

No te preocupes Sergio, la intención es lo que cuenta, y a buen seguro que 
a más de uno has ayudado... :))


Personalmente no tengo un router ADSL pero yo también te agradezco que 
hayas divulgado la información. Me parece de muy mal gusto que te riñan por 
eso. La información debe ser del dominio de todos, no solo de unos pocos.



Nos vemos, y por lo que a mí respecta; muchísimas gracias por lo del 
router ADSL, de verdad XDDD




Pues eso que lo mismo digo, que muchas gracias por mermar un poco nuestra 
ignorancia.



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http://mural.uv.es/marpla

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Re: Telefónica vende su Router ADSL 3com Bloqueado.Pero hay solucion que se jodan

2000-10-16 Thread Ignacio Garcia Fernandez
Yo no creo que te hayas equivocado. Al contrario. Esto es de juzgado de
guardia.

Yo no creo que el objetivo sea que cuatro, que se buscan la
vida sepan saltarse la trampa de telefónica. Si cada vez que telefónica
hace una trampa nos callamos y nos buscamos la vida no llegamos a nada
(el que salva la trampa sí, pero Telefónica sigue estafando)..

Por el contrario, si lo denunciamos públicamente no les queda mas webos
que dar marcha atrás.

Es más, si el usuario medio de telefónica no tien ni repajolera idea de
informática (porque es así, igual que yo no se nada de biología molecular)
pienso que es obligación moral de los que tenemos (teneis en
este caso) conocimientos para descubrir estos engaños denunciarlos donde
sea posible.

Buscando una analogía en el mundo del software libre, creo que es
equivalente a la obligación de avisar de un bug cuando lo encuentras.
Puedes arreglarlo y los demás que se apañen... pero así no se construye.

Es sólo una opinión. Que nadie se lo tome como una crítica personal, por
favor.

Y gracias, Sergio.

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Sergio Valdivielso Gomez wrote:

 Siento enormemente haberme equivocado intentando ayudar a la lista con
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[offtopic] CD's Potato en revistas

2000-10-16 Thread Joaquin Fernandez Piqueras
Buenas,
(primero de todo, disculpas si este tema se ha tocado en la lista hace
poco ya que ultimamente no me da tiempo a leer todo lo que recibo)

Hace tiempo instale en mi ordenador unos cd's que me habia bajado de
internet, eran de mediados de julio y la Potato todavia estaba frozen.
Lo cierto es que como iba muy bien no me habia planteado actualizar a la
estable.
Este fin de semana un amigo me ha pedido una ayudita para instalar los
cd's de la potato oficiales,estable que venian en la revista Solo
linux o algo asi...  La sorpresa fue encontrar que el cuarto cd no tenia
definido nombre para el apt, me parecio raro, pero no le di importancia.
Lo mas increible fue al arrancar dselect y ver que en este cuarto cd
venia helix gnome, y kde entre otras cosas que no estaban en mis cd's de
julio. Viendo esto me surgio la pregunta ¿le han añadido a ultima hora
estos escritorios no libres a la potato antes de hacerla estable? o ¿los
editores de la revista han decidido sustituir  el cuarto cd oficial por
uno creado por ellos?
La respuesta no importa siempre y cuando no se haya perdido ningun
paquete vital en el camino, y el sistema no haya perdido estabilidad.
Solo puedo decir que estuve una hora peleandome con el dselect ya que al
intentar instalar el helix gnome me daba errores de dependencias que no
era capaz de solucionar.
No tengo nada en contra de los cd's de las revistas (yo empeze en este
mundo gracias a un debian 1.0 que aparecio hace algun tiempo), solo
queria pedir a los que hacen las revistas que no hagan inventos, o que
si los hacen no te vendan los cd's como los oficiales.

Perdonen el rollo, pero tenia que desahogarme.

TA LUEG.
Quimi.




Re: [offtopic] CD's Potato en revistas

2000-10-16 Thread Jordi
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 06:30:17PM +0200, Joaquin Fernandez Piqueras wrote:
 Lo mas increible fue al arrancar dselect y ver que en este cuarto cd
 venia helix gnome, y kde entre otras cosas que no estaban en mis cd's de
 julio. Viendo esto me surgio la pregunta ¿le han añadido a ultima hora
 estos escritorios no libres a la potato antes de hacerla estable? o ¿los

Tanto helix GNOME como KDE son software libre.

 editores de la revista han decidido sustituir  el cuarto cd oficial por
 uno creado por ellos?

No hay un cuarto CD oficial. El cuarto CD de la revista son extras no
oficiales.

 No tengo nada en contra de los cd's de las revistas (yo empeze en este
 mundo gracias a un debian 1.0 que aparecio hace algun tiempo), solo
 queria pedir a los que hacen las revistas que no hagan inventos, o que
 si los hacen no te vendan los cd's como los oficiales.
 Perdonen el rollo, pero tenia que desahogarme.

Desahogate, sí :) pero...

Por cierto... tus CD's de Debian 1.0 no serían muy oficiales, verdad?
Más que nada, porque nunca hubo una Debian 1.0 oficial.



Re: [offtopic] CD's Potato en revistas

2000-10-16 Thread Joaquin Fernandez Piqueras
Jordi wrote:

 Tanto helix GNOME como KDE son software libre.


Reconozco que no se como esta ultimamente el tema de las librerias QT, pero en 
principio el
KDE no se incluia en potato por este tema.
Pido perdon por lo de helix Gnome que pensaba que no era libre.


 No hay un cuarto CD oficial. El cuarto CD de la revista son extras no
 oficiales.


La version que descargue yo en julio eran cuatro cd's, tenia entendido que los 
cd's oficiales
eran cuatro sin contar las fuentes. ¿que ha pasado con el cuarto cd?

 Por cierto... tus CD's de Debian 1.0 no serían muy oficiales, verdad?
 Más que nada, porque nunca hubo una Debian 1.0 oficial.

Nadie ha dicho que fuer oficial, solo he dicho que yo empeze con un cd de 
debian 1.0






gestor de ficheros

2000-10-16 Thread Carles Pina i Estany

hola

hay algun gestor de ficheros que no sea mc para x-window en debian
intereasnte? y que soporte montar y desmontar unidades samba tambien me
interesaria...

gracias!


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Arreglado el tema de actualizacion de sistema

2000-10-16 Thread José Plaza
Arreglado. Parecia que en el directorio /etc/apt/ existia un apt.conf
que no le gustaba al nuevo apt que hay que instalar para actualizar
desde el slink a potato. Probando lo quite y me ha hecho la
actualizacion bien, hasta ahora, porque he visto bien poco, pero bien.
Gracias y en especial a Ciro, aunque lo que me aconsejaba estaba bien.
Hasta luego y espero que mi experiencia le sirva a otros.






ftp.es.debian.org ?

2000-10-16 Thread ciro
alguien sabe que demonios le pasa al ftp.es.debian.org ?



Re: gestor de ficheros

2000-10-16 Thread Hue-Bond
El lunes 16 de octubre de 2000 a la(s) 19:12:51 +, Carles Pina i Estany 
contaba:

hay algun gestor de ficheros que no sea mc para x-window en debian
intereasnte? y que soporte montar y desmontar unidades samba tambien me
interesaria...

 gmc no está  mal. A mí me gustó mucho  el X-Win-Commander, y lo
 intenté compilar  algunas veces,  para lo que  me bajé  también las
 bibliotecas fox.  No lo conseguí, así  que me cogí el  rpm y extraí
 (¿extraje?) el árbol.  Ninguno de estos dos soporta  lo de samba,
 pero eso  se puede  asignar a  un par  de aliases  y éstos  a algún
 botoncito de algún programa que sirva para eso.


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Re: gestor de ficheros

2000-10-16 Thread Faro
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 07:12:51PM +, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
 hay algun gestor de ficheros que no sea mc para x-window en debian
 intereasnte? y que soporte montar y desmontar unidades samba tambien me
 interesaria...

El que mejor soporte dá para samba (según mi experiencia) es kfm,
el de kde, que te monta los directorios samba con la misma
transparencia que en el innombrable. 

Supongo que habrá paquete debian, aunque no lo he comprobado
personalmente.

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mkpasswd

2000-10-16 Thread Alberto Rodríguez
Estoy intentando usar mkpasswd para asignar claves a mis usuarios de
forma no interactiva.

Si como root hago mkpasswd usuario, me sale un mensaje diciendo:

mkpasswd: no DBM database on system - no action performed

Sin embargo si hago su -  ENTER

y a continuación mkpasswd usuario ENTER

me asigna una clave al usuario usuario (Éste debe existir).

Pensando que quizás la base de dato DBM a la que hace referencia el
aviso cuando ejecuto mkpasswd como root, no está en algunos de los
directorios del $PATH de root, realizo la siguiente prueba:


Entro en el sistema como root supongamos que tty1(primera consola)
hago echo $PATH y me sale:
/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin::/root/bin 


Si hago su - ENTER
Y a continuación echo $PATH, me sale:

/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin::/root/bin

La diferencia radica en que la segunda salida contiene de más los
directorios /usr/local/sbin y /usr/bin/X11.

me salgo haciendo exit. Vuelvo a root sencillo.


Entonces hago: PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin/X11
export PATH

Para comprobar hago echo $PATH, saliéndome el PATH con los dos últimos
directorios añadidos, ahora hago

mkpasswd usuario y por contestación obtengo nuevamente:
mkpasswd: no DBM database on system - no action performed


Alguien me puede explicar este extraño comportamiento?

Gracias y saludos.



Re: gestor de ficheros

2000-10-16 Thread Carles Pina i Estany


Hola

  hay algun gestor de ficheros que no sea mc para x-window en debian
  intereasnte? y que soporte montar y desmontar unidades samba tambien me
  interesaria...
 
   El que mejor soporte dá para samba (según mi experiencia) es kfm,
   el de kde, que te monta los directorios samba con la misma
   transparencia que en el innombrable. 
vaya, con la pereza que me hace instalar los kdelibs! :-)

buscaré a ver si hay algun otro...

gracias!


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RE: gestor de ficheros

2000-10-16 Thread Oriol de la Dehesa Demaria
 hay algun gestor de ficheros que no sea mc para x-window en debian
 intereasnte? y que soporte montar y desmontar unidades samba tambien me
 interesaria...
 

Te aconsejo el gentoo, es el que yo uso. Es relativamente pequeño y ligero y
además es tremendamente configurable... En cuanto 
a montar shares smb, pues la verdad no te puedo decir...
  
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Re: Problemas con el modem

2000-10-16 Thread Santiago Romero
El dom, 15 de oct de 2000, a las 10:58:47 +0200, Benjamin Encuentra dijo:
 Prueba con ATDP, quizás tu línea de teléfono no acepte llamadas por tonos.
 
  No consigo conectarme a la red con mi módem.
  Es un Zoltrix externo de 56K.

 no no no no
 en los ZOLTRIX no se usa ATDTnumero
 sino ATP*Tnumero

 asi tal cual, con el *

 salu2.

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Re: [offtopic] CD's Potato en revistas

2000-10-16 Thread graffic
Buenas!

A ver, el gnome es libre, y kde cambiaron la licencia de las qt asi
q mas de lo mismo, por lo que los escritorios son libres, otra cosa es que
como no son estables no se incluyen en la potato oficial; te recomiendo q
mires el cd 4 y pone en negro No oficial :) asi creo q se aclararan tus
dudas =), si necesitas sources para el apt de kde o del gnome:

- BEGIN
# Gnome
deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main

# Evolution (correo para gnome)
deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/evolution/distributions/Debian/ /

# KDE (suprimir kde o kde2 dependiendo de la version a instalar)

deb http://kde.tdyc.com/ potato kde contrib kde2
--- END
On Oct/16/2000, Joaquin Fernandez Piqueras wrote:
 Buenas,
 (primero de todo, disculpas si este tema se ha tocado en la lista hace
 poco ya que ultimamente no me da tiempo a leer todo lo que recibo)
 
 Hace tiempo instale en mi ordenador unos cd's que me habia bajado de
 internet, eran de mediados de julio y la Potato todavia estaba frozen.
 Lo cierto es que como iba muy bien no me habia planteado actualizar a la
 estable.
 Este fin de semana un amigo me ha pedido una ayudita para instalar los
 cd's de la potato oficiales,estable que venian en la revista Solo
 linux o algo asi...  La sorpresa fue encontrar que el cuarto cd no tenia
 definido nombre para el apt, me parecio raro, pero no le di importancia.
 Lo mas increible fue al arrancar dselect y ver que en este cuarto cd
 venia helix gnome, y kde entre otras cosas que no estaban en mis cd's de
 julio. Viendo esto me surgio la pregunta ¿le han añadido a ultima hora
 estos escritorios no libres a la potato antes de hacerla estable? o ¿los
 editores de la revista han decidido sustituir  el cuarto cd oficial por
 uno creado por ellos?
 La respuesta no importa siempre y cuando no se haya perdido ningun
 paquete vital en el camino, y el sistema no haya perdido estabilidad.
 Solo puedo decir que estuve una hora peleandome con el dselect ya que al
 intentar instalar el helix gnome me daba errores de dependencias que no
 era capaz de solucionar.
 No tengo nada en contra de los cd's de las revistas (yo empeze en este
 mundo gracias a un debian 1.0 que aparecio hace algun tiempo), solo
 queria pedir a los que hacen las revistas que no hagan inventos, o que
 si los hacen no te vendan los cd's como los oficiales.
 
 Perdonen el rollo, pero tenia que desahogarme.
 
 TA LUEG.
 Quimi.
 
 
 
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Re: Quedada debianera en la Universitat de València

2000-10-16 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 12:54:19PM +0200, Marta Pla i Castells wrote:
 Bueno, pues parece que ya somos más. A mi también me viene bien el jueves 
 26 así que si no hay contraorden, nos vemos ese día.

Uff. La semana del 26 habrán empezado las prácticas y el jueves a partir de
las 17:30 tengo una.
Los viernes, libre.

Jordi

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Re: Configuración del ratón en X

2000-10-16 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 01:44:59AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 device=/dev/psaux
 responsiveness=
 repeat_type=ms3

Quita el repeat y funcionará lo de abajo (cambiando el enlace de /dev/mouse)

 type=ps2
 append=

append=-3 puede ser útil también.

 el enlace mouse - gpmdata por mouse - psaux

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Re: Telefónica vende su Router ADSL 3com Bloqueado.Pero hay solucion que se jodan

2000-10-16 Thread Rodolfo García
On lun, 16 oct 2000, Ignacio Garcia Fernandez escribió:

 Yo no creo que te hayas equivocado. Al contrario. Esto es de juzgado de
 guardia.

Sí, esto es de judgado de guardia, pero vamos al tema.

 Yo no creo que el objetivo sea que cuatro, que se buscan la
 vida sepan saltarse la trampa de telefónica. Si cada vez que telefónica
 hace una trampa nos callamos y nos buscamos la vida no llegamos a nada
 (el que salva la trampa sí, pero Telefónica sigue estafando)..

No me hables de telefonica por que me cagonsusmuelas, esta noche 20 minutos 
para que me dejen conectar, y llevo así desde el jueves, Terra = Timo Empresas 
Ratoneras y Ridiculas Asociadas, no deja que me conecte por qeu como siempre 
ellos tienen todo bien configurado y como debo ser gilipollas ...

 Por el contrario, si lo denunciamos públicamente no les queda mas webos
 que dar marcha atrás.

O cambiar los passwords.

 Es más, si el usuario medio de telefónica no tien ni repajolera idea de
 informática (porque es así, igual que yo no se nada de biología molecular)
 pienso que es obligación moral de los que tenemos (teneis en
 este caso) conocimientos para descubrir estos engaños denunciarlos donde
 sea posible.

El usuario medio que instala un Router no tiene ni puta idea de que es un 
aparato de esos y por lo cual no debe tocarlo, aunque sea suyo, porque joderá 
su conexión y hará que tenga que ir un tecnico a su casa. Ese usuario no conoce 
el password, no le interesa y mucho menos lo necesita. Telefonica hace mal no 
dando el password puesto qeu cuando uno compra una cosa lo lógico es que se le 
ofrezca todo, incluida la clave de acceso, pero bueno, si no la ofrecen es para 
evitar que tu usuario medio lo toque.

 Buscando una analogía en el mundo del software libre, creo que es
 equivalente a la obligación de avisar de un bug cuando lo encuentras.
 Puedes arreglarlo y los demás que se apañen... pero así no se construye.

No digo que los demás se apañen, yo lo conozco y a los usuarios que yo conozco 
les he avisado, pero de boca en boca las cosas corren mejor ;)

Venga un saludo a todos y que nadie se queme con el tema, lo hecho hecho está y 
fin.

Un saludo a todos.

 Es sólo una opinión. Que nadie se lo tome como una crítica personal, por
 favor.
 
 Y gracias, Sergio.
 
 On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Sergio Valdivielso Gomez wrote:
 
  Siento enormemente haberme equivocado intentando ayudar a la lista con
  el tema del router 3Com y sobre todo herir a personas de esta lista
  proclamandolo a voces.
  Pido perdon por intentar ayudar.
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Re: Quedada debianera en la Universitat de València

2000-10-16 Thread Alfredo Casademunt
El Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 11:57:01PM +0200, Virgilio Gómez Rubio dijo:
 Hola:
 
  Hace tiempo mandé un mensaje sugiriendo una quedad debianera en el campus
 de Burjassot de la Universitat de València, pero no concretamos ninguna
 fecha. ¿Cuándo podríamos quedar?
 
   Personalmente me da igual porque literalmente vivo en el campus :-D Sé
 que hay gente que trabaja hasta tarde y puede que una buena hora sea las
 6-7 de la tarde.
 
 Lo mejor es que cada uno diga cuando puede y fijamos una fecha por
 consenso. ¿Qué os parece?
 

Yo trabajo de 14:30 a 22:00 de lunes a viernes, así que solo puedo por la
mañana o en fin de semana (y que no tenga guardia :-( ...
Casi que en Valencia capital me vendria mejor, ¿ no tenemos en Valencia
ningun café, pub, bar o discoteca :-) linuxero ?

Un saludo.

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Re: bitchx o epic

2000-10-16 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:01:40PM +0200, Gerard wrote:
 Tengo ganas de probar un irc en modo texto,
 cual me recomiendan?

For the record, dejé de usar Bx por ciertos reasons y quits sexistas y
racistas que contiene. Sí, puedo quitarlos y poner mis propios mensajes,
pero panasync (el autor) me parece un cretino y como hay alternativas a su
software...

Epic4 está guay.

 y que script? (de estos que te hacen la vida mas facil)

Esto si que es de flame war :)
Yo uso SplitFire, pero porque es el primero que pillé.
Otros dicen que thirdeye es el que pule.

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Re: Quedada debianera en la Universitat de València

2000-10-16 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 01:17:06AM +, Alfredo Casademunt wrote:
 Yo trabajo de 14:30 a 22:00 de lunes a viernes, así que solo puedo por la
 mañana o en fin de semana (y que no tenga guardia :-( ...

Joder, tú que haces en la universidad?

 Casi que en Valencia capital me vendria mejor, ¿ no tenemos en Valencia
 ningun café, pub, bar o discoteca :-) linuxero ?

Jo, con lo chachi que es la cantina de ciencias...

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Re: lilo strul.. (L 40 40 40 40 40......)

2000-10-16 Thread peter karlsson
Michael Dalvald:

 L 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 osv.. 

Ur /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz:

   L error ...   The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started,
but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error
codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section Disk error
codes.) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry
mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters, see section Disk geometry).


   0x40   Seek failure. This might be a media problem. Try booting again.

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Re: Comecar com ma revista on-line

2000-10-16 Thread Marcelo Elias Del Valle
Eu sou a favor de algo mais aberto, de algo mais voltado a debian, ou seja,
o que quer que seja que a revista trate, debian deve ser prioridade. Debian é
a única distribuição linux sem fins lucratívos. Acho até interessante uma
coluna da revista do linux, mas creio que haja um conflito de filosofias entre
a filosofia dessa revista e a filosofia do debian.
Em sumo, acho legal, mas não descarto a possibilidade de criarmos uma
free. 
Gostaria de saber uma coisa... Se eu criar todos os scripts iniciais
par a revista (todo o engine inicial) em PHP, alguém se responsabiliza como
mantenedor? O que nós precisamos é de ao menos um mantenedor. Eu não posso me
comprometer enquanto não estiver com internet definitivamente em casa.
Estou louco pra começar a revista! Adorei a idéia!

On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 12:29:06AM -0200, Thiago Volpi Ramos wrote:
 Estou usando o Gnu/Linux há pouco tempo e, ao interessar- me por esse
 sistema operacional, a primeira coisa que fiz foi comprar  todos os
 exemplares da revista do linux que vi nas bancas. É por isso que acho que
 uma coluna nessa revista seria interessante, podendo atingir não somente aos
 já iniciados, que procurarão por Gnu/Linux na Internet e acharão a página da
 revista online, como também aos que estão entrando nesse mundo.
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 To: marioviars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: DepHiNit [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elias Serra P. Pereira
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 Subject: Re: Comecar com ma revista on-line
 
 

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Re: Comecar com ma revista on-line

2000-10-16 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
 Eu entendo bem o que vocês está sentindo Hélio! Para falar a verdade, cheguei
 a um ponto hoje em que não posso escutar alguém falando mal de linux, uma
 coisa sequer e já fico com raiva... ;-) Eu tenho medo de ficar sem o debian!
 Eu faço de tudo para existir a melhor distribuição Linux, pois só poderei usar
 a melhor se ela existir.
   Contúdo, creio que exigir que a revista só fale de debian não seria
 algo legal. Seria legal a revista ser elaborada no estilo open source, ou
 seja, pegamos o código fonte da revista e transformamos em um projeto, com um
 TODO e uma lista de discussão.

Concordo em tudo, mas não me refiro a uma revista de Debia
somente, mesmo pq uso FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris e ainda por cima ministro
curso de Conectiva.  O que eu me refiro é que não existe uma revista
técnica sobre o assunto.  As minhas referências bibliográficas são todas
americanas: Linux Journal, Sysadmin, Sun Expert, Linux Gazette.  A idéia é
aproveitar o sentimento comunitário que somente o Debian permite (não é
uma $/A) e criar uma revista (virtual a princípio) técnica, não uma
revista que fica dizendo que Debian é legal, que Linux faz isso, que Linux
faz aquilo.  O negócio é mostrar.

   Daí então, conforme forem aparecendo idéias na lista, surgirão pessoas
 querendo escrever artigos, editoriais, etc. Se a pessoa quiser escrever sobre
 algo avançado, escreva. Se quiser escrever sobre banalidade, escreva.
Sem problemas.  O importante é que pessoas que conheça a fundo
Linux e UNIX escreva, pois são este conhecimentos que fazem a
diferença.  Opinião de clicador de Linuxconf é extremamente irrelevante,
mas a do programador de scripts para o Linuxconf não.

   O importante é que a organização da revista seja tal que notícias mais
 básicas estejam bem separadas de notícias (entenda notíciais como artigos,
 colunas, etc) mais elaboradas. Notícias de pessoas que já contribuem a certo
 tempo para a revista devem ficar separadas daquelas que pessoas mandam como
 contributors...
Seria interessante começarmos com um projeto light de uma
revista inicialmente trimestral.  Não pela audiência, mas para podermos
juntar os artigos que compõe a revista.

   Se fizermos uma organização legal, sai um trabalho legal! Um
 centralizador de informações. Se você quiser um enfoque mais voltado para o
 debian, deve ter uma parte da revista mais voltada para o debian.
Acho que nem precisa tanto.  Fazendo uma revista genérica e UNIX
like já é suficiente.

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Re: Comecar com ma revista on-line

2000-10-16 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
 Estou usando o Gnu/Linux há pouco tempo e, ao interessar- me por esse
 sistema operacional, a primeira coisa que fiz foi comprar  todos os
 exemplares da revista do linux que vi nas bancas. É por isso que acho que
 uma coluna nessa revista seria interessante, podendo atingir não somente aos
 já iniciados, que procurarão por Gnu/Linux na Internet e acharão a página da
 revista online, como também aos que estão entrando nesse mundo.
Daí estaremos obrigando o pessoal da comunidade a comprar a
revista para poder ver os artigos.  Acho que não seria bom este tipo de
vínculo.

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Revista on-line

2000-10-16 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
Oi, acho legal... até mesmo acho que poderíamos escrevê-la
em SGML e publicá-la em HTML e pdf para que pessoas possam lela on/off line,
e tal...

Mas um ponto importante que deve ser aproveitado é o fato da
CIPSGA (www.cipsga.org.br) estar lutando para conseguir recursos (servidores
links) para incentivar justamente iniciativas como estas.

Para mim a saída óbvia e lógica seria que fizéssemos
a revista na CIPSGA, assim divulgamos a iniciativa do CIPSGA, utilizamos
os recursos que eles lutam para conseguir para que nós utilizemos e
estaremos ajudando a consolidar cada vez mais nossa comunidade.

Eu não posso dispor do tempo necessário para editar esta
revista, eu acho que meu talento é melhor enfocado em outro aspecto,
não tenho nada de design gráfico correndo em minhas veias, mas
uma vez com a infra construída será um prazer contribuir artigos.

meus R$0,05

Abraços

--macan



Contador Debian Beta Testing =]

2000-10-16 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Olah pessoal!!!

Tenho o orgulho de declarar o contador Debian!! estah no
ar!! (bem... a parte de maquina ainda naum..)

visitem em: 
http://debian-br.sourceforge.net/contador-debian/contador.html

Nosso DB tah funcionando perfeitamente... jah pus lah a parte
de usuarios e jah fiz os testes... parece estar tudo bem...
testem por favor!!! Estou pensando em deixar 1 semana pra
testes e depois comecar pra valer... naum sei o que vcs 
acham, se a maioria preferir jah comecar a usar duma vez,
creio que o Contador estah estavel e confiavel o bastante
para isso (neh naum? maiden? depois de tanto teste!! eaihhieahi)
Ah... e cyberdemo... repare como lah naum dah o erro =]

PH, precisamos atualizar as paginas da debian-br pra ter link
pro contador =], pus todos os links dela no contador... dah
um jeito nisso pra nos... 

Admins do projeto... vou escrever um pequeno manual sobre como
operar nosso banco de dados e depois decidimos quem serao os
encarregados de terem as senhas e fazer as operacoes do DB...

Queria agradecer muito o pessoal que me ajudou com isso...
principalmente meu consultor de SQL, Eitch e meu melhor testador
o maiden =)

valeu!!

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RE: Comecar com ma revista on-line

2000-10-16 Thread Marckus Selbach Neto
 
Acho que nem precisa tanto.  Fazendo uma revista genérica e UNIX
like já é suficiente.

Penso que se fizermos uma zine de conteudo vertical seria mais 
interessante que uma revista genérica, abordando vários assuntos,
visto que poderíamos cair na superficialidade.

Temos que ter consciência que somos poucos, talvez a trimestralidade
seja interessante no início mesmo, assim facilitaria a geração de
artigos com ótima qualidade.

Também são meus R$0,05.

Cordialmente,

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Re: Comecar com ma revista on-line

2000-10-16 Thread Thiago Volpi Ramos
Seria possível fazer uma revista online, para a comunidade, com artigos mais
técnicos e tudo mais, e uma coluna na Revista do Linux ou em outra revista
de informática de grande circulação apresentando o Gnu/Linux para os que
ainda não o conhecem bem.
Não tenho conhecimento técnico que possa ser de grande valia para colaborar
com a revista, já que uso o Debian a pouco tempo, mas gostaria de ajudar tal
projeto na medida do possível, quaisquer que sejam os caminhos que ele
tomar.
- Original Message -
From: Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Thiago Volpi Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; marioviars [EMAIL PROTECTED];
DepHiNit [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elias Serra P. Pereira
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: Comecar com ma revista on-line


  Estou usando o Gnu/Linux há pouco tempo e, ao interessar- me por esse
  sistema operacional, a primeira coisa que fiz foi comprar  todos os
  exemplares da revista do linux que vi nas bancas. É por isso que acho
que
  uma coluna nessa revista seria interessante, podendo atingir não somente
aos
  já iniciados, que procurarão por Gnu/Linux na Internet e acharão a
página da
  revista online, como também aos que estão entrando nesse mundo.
 Daí estaremos obrigando o pessoal da comunidade a comprar a
 revista para poder ver os artigos.  Acho que não seria bom este tipo de
 vínculo.

   , ,
 ,(   ).
 []'s| \,--_ / |
 /_  _  `  /
 Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro /-.,-.`\
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Problemas SHAPER

2000-10-16 Thread Tecnologia Viavale Internet
E ai pessoal da lista... tenho uma duvida em relacao ao shaper na
Distribuicao Debian, pois consigo faze-lo funcionar perfeitamente no Red Hat
Linux, mas devido a instabilidade do Red Hat estou optando por um sistema
mais enxuto e estavel, no caso o Debian, sobre o shaper ja' instalei-o com o
apt-get install shaper e compilei o Kernel 2.2.17 com o modulo para tal mas
ainda nao obtive sucesso com este... se alguem, por acaso ja' tenha passado
por esta me deem uma mao pois nao gostaria de parar de usar o Debian no meu
Provedor so' por causo do bendito SHAPER :(

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Re: Comecar com ma revista on-line

2000-10-16 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Hehehe, se for desse jeito conquistaram um leitor! ;-)

Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro wrote:
 
  Eu entendo bem o que vocês está sentindo Hélio! Para falar a verdade, 
  cheguei
  a um ponto hoje em que não posso escutar alguém falando mal de linux, uma
  coisa sequer e já fico com raiva... ;-) Eu tenho medo de ficar sem o debian!
  Eu faço de tudo para existir a melhor distribuição Linux, pois só poderei 
  usar
  a melhor se ela existir.
Contúdo, creio que exigir que a revista só fale de debian não seria
  algo legal. Seria legal a revista ser elaborada no estilo open source, ou
  seja, pegamos o código fonte da revista e transformamos em um projeto, com 
  um
  TODO e uma lista de discussão.
 
 Concordo em tudo, mas não me refiro a uma revista de Debia
 somente, mesmo pq uso FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris e ainda por cima ministro
 curso de Conectiva.  O que eu me refiro é que não existe uma revista
 técnica sobre o assunto.  As minhas referências bibliográficas são todas
 americanas: Linux Journal, Sysadmin, Sun Expert, Linux Gazette.  A idéia é
 aproveitar o sentimento comunitário que somente o Debian permite (não é
 uma $/A) e criar uma revista (virtual a princípio) técnica, não uma
 revista que fica dizendo que Debian é legal, que Linux faz isso, que Linux
 faz aquilo.  O negócio é mostrar.
 
Daí então, conforme forem aparecendo idéias na lista, surgirão pessoas
  querendo escrever artigos, editoriais, etc. Se a pessoa quiser escrever 
  sobre
  algo avançado, escreva. Se quiser escrever sobre banalidade, escreva.
 Sem problemas.  O importante é que pessoas que conheça a fundo
 Linux e UNIX escreva, pois são este conhecimentos que fazem a
 diferença.  Opinião de clicador de Linuxconf é extremamente irrelevante,
 mas a do programador de scripts para o Linuxconf não.
 
O importante é que a organização da revista seja tal que notícias mais
  básicas estejam bem separadas de notícias (entenda notíciais como artigos,
  colunas, etc) mais elaboradas. Notícias de pessoas que já contribuem a certo
  tempo para a revista devem ficar separadas daquelas que pessoas mandam como
  contributors...
 Seria interessante começarmos com um projeto light de uma
 revista inicialmente trimestral.  Não pela audiência, mas para podermos
 juntar os artigos que compõe a revista.
 
Se fizermos uma organização legal, sai um trabalho legal! Um
  centralizador de informações. Se você quiser um enfoque mais voltado para o
  debian, deve ter uma parte da revista mais voltada para o debian.
 Acho que nem precisa tanto.  Fazendo uma revista genérica e UNIX
 like já é suficiente.

 
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Debian Slink

2000-10-16 Thread Fabiano F. Siqueira
Olá

Gostaria de saber se existe algum ftp da debian ou de alguém ainda com a
distribuição slink?

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Re: Debian Slink

2000-10-16 Thread Adriano Freitas
Fabiano F. Siqueira wrote:
 
 Olá
 
 Gostaria de saber se existe algum ftp da debian ou de alguém ainda com a
 distribuição slink?
 

Se eu não me engano você pode achar todas as distribuições no ftp
oficial da debian.

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Re: make monitor power-saving blank -HOW?

2000-10-16 Thread Denis Kosygin
Gerald Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But when I was running redhat 6.0 the X screen also blanked in a way
 that made the monitor switch off...
 why isn't that possible with my potato?

In X session `xset dpms force off' will turn off the monitor right away.
Xset manual page (section related to dpms option) tells how to set
the timing parameters to do this after a period of inactivity.

HTH. Denis



RE: update-inetd problem

2000-10-16 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
See below

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

 -Original Message-
 From: Dwight Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 12:27 AM
 To:   Michael P. Soulier
 Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  Re: update-inetd problem
 
 On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 
  On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:55:35PM -0700, Dwight Johnson wrote:
   # update-inetd --add telnet
   The entry definition does not contain any whitespace characters!
   
   What does this message mean? What am I doing wrong?
  
  Wow. I didn't even know there was an update-inetd program. I always
 hack
  the inetd.conf file by hand. 
  Can't you just uncomment the telnet entry?
 
 That's what I have always done on my Red Hat and SuSE installations. But
 on Debian 2.2, my inetd.conf file does not have a telnet entry to
 uncomment
 and the inetd.conf file begins with a commented caution to not change it
 except using 'update-inetd'.
 
 But trying to make sense out of constructing an update-inetd add entry
 using 'man update-inetd' and the associated man pages is beyond me.
 
 What does your inetd.conf telnet entry look like?
 
  You shouldn't use telnet
  anyway, unless you're on a closed network. Too much cleartext. Use ssh. 
 
 I would have tried that too, but 'apt-get install ssh' is unable to find
 the package on my 2.2 CD set. [CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]   Previously
 ssh was NOT OpenSSHbut I read somewhere that ssh in 2.2 is now based
 on OpenSSH. (Suggest you check the cds to see whether SSH came as part of
 the 3 cd set or is on the 4th cd - i.e. non-free/non-us) . I did not use
 apt-get to install ssh...instead, I compiled from source for both OpenSSL
 and OpenSSHworks like a charm. 
 
 Thanks for your help,
 Dwight
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x font server

2000-10-16 Thread Joseph Holland King
i just installed debian yesterday. today i downloaded and compiled the x
server and tried to get x running. in oreder to do so i rebooted my system
to make it recognize the mouse. when it tried to reboot it stopped with
the error message that the x font server did not recognize the argument
passed in. now it won't boot and since the master boot record won't allow
me to boot directly into single user mode (at least not in any way that i
am aware of). also i was not able to make a boot disk during installation
due to some other problems. is there anything that i can do in order to
get my system to boot correctly and to get x to work? thank you. 

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Re: make monitor power-saving blank -HOW?

2000-10-16 Thread Damien
 In X session `xset dpms force off' will turn off the monitor right away.
 Xset manual page (section related to dpms option) tells how to set
 the timing parameters to do this after a period of inactivity.

doing this under x/4 just blanks my screens (the second head of the g400
usually turning a colour other than black, too ;o). iirc, x3.3 used to be able
to use the proper dpms modes. do i have to do something different now?

cheers

 damien


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I'm having trouble with my NIC

2000-10-16 Thread Jeremy
I have an old 486SX25 with 16MB of RAM and a SMC 8013WC NIC, which worked
under the 2.0.36 kernel, but when I upgraded to potato, WD.O tells me that
there is no card installed.  When I boot back into DOS and run the config
utility, it says that the EEPROM was trashed and rewrites it.  I
downloaded and tried the wdsetup utility, but it doesn't find the card
either.  Any suggestions?  I completely erased, repartitioned, and
reformatted my hard drives before upgrading, so there was nothing left
that could be interfering.

Thanks for your help,
Jeremy



Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was Mutt's Editor

2000-10-16 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:00:15AM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote:
 If you want vim to be really useful you need the vim-rt package as well.
 I suspect that tips the balance.

okay, so i
# apt-get install vim vim-rt
and vi still points to elvis, so i
# update-alternatives --install `which vi` vi /usr/bin/vim 150
to use vim as default vi, and immediately
run into syntax difficulties in my ~/.exrc which i fix...

i get no syntax hilighting at all (the 'file ends here, so
we'll show a tilde from here own down' is blue but that's all
that's colored).

i see there are kahuna mongo syntax files in what appears to
be a settings dir at /usr/share/vim/vim56/syntax/* which would
apparently be selected by /usr/share/vim/vim56/filetype.vim
if it were called from the appropriate place at the appropriate
time...

how is that supposed to be set up? did i overlook something?
(snootyelvis worked all spiffy right out of the box/snooty...)

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Ghostview PS *.ps and *.ps.gz

2000-10-16 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

The advice on loading the gsfonts worked and I loaded up ghostview docs.
Question, unlike gv, it doesn't seem to read *.ps.gz files. I had to turn
them into *.ps files. That normal?

Thanks.

Jonathan




Re: make monitor power-saving blank -HOW?

2000-10-16 Thread Matthew Emmett
Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net writes:

 On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 08:36:44PM -0400, John Anderson wrote:
  You have to compile a custom kernel with APM support enabled, and
  monitor power saving enabled under the apm section.  The monitor
  will use power saving only in the character mode, so if you use X
  exclusively, you might be out of luck.
 
 Untrue.  There's a way to enable DPMS in XF86Config (or with xset).  I
 just use my BIOS settings for inactivity time. 10-20-30


Ya, I use xset.  In my .xsession I put xset dpms 1200 1200 1200, but
you may as well put it is XF86Config, as Eric did.

Matt



Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was Mutt's Editor

2000-10-16 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 11:56:16PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:00:15AM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote:
  If you want vim to be really useful you need the vim-rt package as well.
  I suspect that tips the balance.
 
 okay, so i
   # apt-get install vim vim-rt
 and vi still points to elvis, so i
   # update-alternatives --install `which vi` vi /usr/bin/vim 150
 to use vim as default vi, and immediately
 run into syntax difficulties in my ~/.exrc which i fix...

Try:
  o moving that ~/.exrc to something else
  o makings a symbolic link to /usr/share/vim/vimrc
  o creating a ~/.vimrc file (use /etc/vimrc as starting point)

 i get no syntax hilighting at all (the 'file ends here, so
 we'll show a tilde from here own down' is blue but that's all
 that's colored).
 
 i see there are kahuna mongo syntax files in what appears to
 be a settings dir at /usr/share/vim/vim56/syntax/* which would
 apparently be selected by /usr/share/vim/vim56/filetype.vim
 if it were called from the appropriate place at the appropriate
 time...
 
 how is that supposed to be set up? did i overlook something?
 (snootyelvis worked all spiffy right out of the box/snooty...)

Vim apparently doesn't like your .exrc (or it's preventing it from using
the rest of the vim runtime files).

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Mouse freezing in X

2000-10-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
I have noticed in the past few days that if I switch from the X display
to a VC and back again that as soon as I move my mouse the cursor jumps
to the upper right corner of the display and stays there.  This is on a
system running woody.  Has anyone else noticed this?

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Bainbridge Island, WA  http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
 



Re: make monitor power-saving blank -HOW?

2000-10-16 Thread Erik Steffl
Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 If you want it to go into the low-power green mode (light turns
 amber) you can run:
 
 /usr/bin/setterm -powersave on
 
 This works in a VC.  For X you need to put the following in your
 XF86Config:
 
 Option power_saver  # enable VESA DPMS

  or use xset

erik

 
 On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 09:08:18PM -0400, John Anderson wrote:
 
  On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Gerald Richter wrote:
 
   John Anderson wrote:
   
You have to compile a custom kernel with APM support enabled, and 
monitor
power saving enabled under the apm section.  The monitor will use power
saving only in the character mode, so if you use X exclusively, you 
might
be out of luck.
   
  
   Well, seems I've forgotten to activate that!
  
   But when I was running redhat 6.0 the X screen also blanked in a way
   that made the monitor switch off...
   why isn't that possible with my potato?
  
  Do you really mean the monitor shut offs completely or did the monitor
  light blink or turn amber?  You have to download the kernel-source
  package(s) through dselect and then in the /usr/src/linux dir tar Ixvf
  kernel-sources-2.2..., them make menuconfig, you will be presented with a
  nice menu driven program.  Select the APM features I mentioned earlier.
  then save the configuration upon exiting the program. then issue the
  command make dep and after that is run, make zlilo.  If the kernel
  compiles correctly you can reboot it and the new kernel should take
  effect.
 
 
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Questions About dpkg and friends

2000-10-16 Thread Jeff Hornsberger
Hi, I just moved over from redhat and am wondering about how to do a few
things in the debian package management system.
1) If you know the name of a file you need, but not what package it is
part of, what's the best way to find out what package you need?
2) Once you install a package, how can you get a listing of what files
in the system belong to that package?
3) How can you tell what installed package (if any) a particular file in
the system belongs to?
Thanks very much. -Jeff



RE: XFsetup

2000-10-16 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
Is GPM loading through /etc/rcX.d? If so, then you'd need to point to
/dev/gpmdata in XF86Setup instead of /dev/psaux or /dev/mouse.

You can determine this by moving your mouse at the console. If you see the
cursor moving (i.e. a grey rectangle), then GPM is running.


HTH

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Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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 -Original Message-
 From: Eileen Orbell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 2:35 AM
 To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  Re: XFsetup
 
 As i said in my message I downloaded the XF86_SVGA, actually when I run 
 startx it loads into xwindows but freezes up due the mouse error.  I no
 the 
 diff between a serial PS2 mouse but this seems weird to me.  I even used:
 
 ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse to send any program looking for /dev/mouse to 
 /dev/psaux
 
 Still no luck!!
 
   At 11:33 AM 10/15/2000 -0400, you wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 11:31:02AM -0400, Eileen Orbell wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I am still trying to config xwindows.  I have a ATI 16mg video card 
  which I
   labeled as generic, as PS2 mouse.  I downloaded the XF86_SVGA.  When I
 run
   startx I still get no mouse and error returned
   FATAL SERVER ERROR
   Cannot open mouse (No such file - directory)
   What am I doing wrong?  This is really getting me down now (smile)
 
  Do you have a /dev/psaux device file? That's what it will look for
 if you
 tell it to use a PS2 mouse. Are you sure it's PS2?
 
  The ATI is supported to my knowledge, so I'm not sure generic is the
 best
 choice. As long as you're sure it's supported by the SVGA server. Plus,
 are
 you using the SVGA server? You should have an /etc/X11/Xserver file that
 looks
 something like this:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ cat /etc/X11/Xserver
 /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA
 Console
 
  Mike
 
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Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was Mutt's Editor

2000-10-16 Thread Dwight Johnson
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, will trillich wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:00:15AM -0700, Pann McCuaig wrote:
  If you want vim to be really useful you need the vim-rt package as well.
  I suspect that tips the balance.
 
 okay, so i
   # apt-get install vim vim-rt
 and vi still points to elvis, so i
   # update-alternatives --install `which vi` vi /usr/bin/vim 150
 to use vim as default vi, and immediately
 run into syntax difficulties in my ~/.exrc which i fix...
 
If VIM finds a .vimrc file in $HOME, it comes up in nocompatible mode.
Otherwise, it comes up in VI compatible mode.

 i get no syntax hilighting at all (the 'file ends here, so
 we'll show a tilde from here own down' is blue but that's all
 that's colored).
 
Try this:

$ vim .vimrc

Place 'syntax on' in your .vimrc. In command mode, enter ':syntax on' and
start to experience syntax highlighting.

While still open in VIM, enter ':help' in command mode. This is your VIM
help resources. In command mode, enter ':help syntax' or ':help color'.
Learn here more about all the different kinds of color highlighting.

 i see there are kahuna mongo syntax files in what appears to
 be a settings dir at /usr/share/vim/vim56/syntax/* which would
 apparently be selected by /usr/share/vim/vim56/filetype.vim
 if it were called from the appropriate place at the appropriate
 time...
 
 how is that supposed to be set up? did i overlook something?

See above.

For the VIM user community, post on the 'comp.editors' newsgroup.

Dwight
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Re: make monitor power-saving blank -HOW?

2000-10-16 Thread kmself
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 01:43:04AM +0200, Gerald Richter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hi!
 
 anyone remember how to get the monitor not just go black, but tell it to
 use the -what was it called?
 vesa-compliant green-mode stuff-thing...

in ~/.xsession or /etc/X11/Xsession, add:

xset blank-seconds standby-seconds shutdown-seconds

e.g.:

xset 600 900 1200

...which gives ten minutes to blank, 15 minutes to standby, and 20
minutes to shutdown, on my monitor.

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Re: Questions About dpkg and friends

2000-10-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:14:07PM -0700, Jeff Hornsberger wrote:
 Hi, I just moved over from redhat and am wondering about how to do a few
 things in the debian package management system.
 1) If you know the name of a file you need, but not what package it is
 part of, what's the best way to find out what package you need?

I don't know of a way to do that (it would be nice, however).

 2) Once you install a package, how can you get a listing of what files
 in the system belong to that package?

dpkg -L packagename

 3) How can you tell what installed package (if any) a particular file in
 the system belongs to?

dpkg -S /path/filename

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DVD movies?

2000-10-16 Thread Krzys Majewski
Anybody play DVD movies on Linux, or know somebody who does?
Does it work? How does it work? What's the file size of a
typical DVD movie? How does the quality compare with TV+VCR?
What are the limitations? Do I need a hardware decoder? 
Etc., etc.
-chris



Re: exim help needed (fwd)

2000-10-16 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 07:21:01PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: 

  Did you look at /etc/aliases?
 Yeah, what should it say? 

Mine says:

postmaster: root
root: phil
...

   - outgoing mail  (e.g. from Mutt) send via  localhost:6025 which is port
   forwarded to smtp.cs.ubc.ca:25. 
  
  May I ask why you want outgoing mail to be sent through port 6025?
 
 Nominally because my school smtp server (the one I want to use) 
 won't accept connections from machines outside the school subnet,
 and my ISP is different from the school's. So I've set up a tcp
 pipe from home to school via one of the school servers. Pine and Gnus
 use it, for example. -chris

Doesn't your ISP offer you a SMTP-Relay-Server? If you are connected
most of the time you don't need one anyway...
Phil



Re: machine hangs, etc. (fwd)

2000-10-16 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 07:21:22PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: 

 Yeah, I took out the CPU last night, removed the custom cooler 
 I put on last week, and put the stock cooler back, smearing some
 standard white heatsink compound on the contact area. 
 The BIOS says ~35 C, which sounds OK to me. 

Never trust faulty BIOSes ;)
A friend of mine had to disable Hardware-Monitoring in his BIOS
because it was assuming wrong things and wanted to shutdown the
System!
Did you touch the CPU and check if your fingers start to become a
little bit red, later black?
More important: What kind of CPU and what kind of board are we talking
about? Do you have the correct Core-Voltage enabled?
Phil



Re: Questions About dpkg and friends

2000-10-16 Thread Seth Cohn
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Bob Nielsen wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:14:07PM -0700, Jeff Hornsberger wrote:
  Hi, I just moved over from redhat and am wondering about how to do a few
  things in the debian package management system.
  1) If you know the name of a file you need, but not what package it is
  part of, what's the best way to find out what package you need?
 
 I don't know of a way to do that (it would be nice, however).

2 different programs will do this:

swim (http://the.netpedia.net) will give you full search ability (and
more) over the entire archive system.  It's quite nice.

auto-apt will attempt to apt-get any file if something calls it.  So if
you went to compile a kernel and were missing as86, it would get the bin86
package...

auto-apt is in woody I believe.

Seth



Re: Mouse freezing in X

2000-10-16 Thread Snowfox

   From: Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I have noticed in the past few days that if I switch from the X display
   to a VC and back again that as soon as I move my mouse the cursor jumps
   to the upper right corner of the display and stays there.  This is on a
   system running woody.  Has anyone else noticed this?

Are you using a mouse with a wheel by any chance? I get this now and
again if the system load is high, although I have no idea why.

Rolling the wheel forward and back a couple times quickly seems to
break it out of its strange mode.

Happens in Woody and Potato both.




Re: Vim vs Elvis -- was Mutt's Editor

2000-10-16 Thread Damien
 i get no syntax hilighting at all (the 'file ends here, so
 we'll show a tilde from here own down' is blue but that's all
 that's colored).

from the docs (place in .vimrc):


 Colour support and syntax highlighting  

 Some systems have a terminfo entry for rxvt and have an xterm terminfo 
 entry without color support. Use the COLORTERM environment variable 
 rxvt sets to enable colours in it.
:if $COLORTERM == rxvt
:  set term=rxvt
:endif
:if term == rxvt
:  set t_Co=8
:  set ttyfast
:endif

 Colours suitable for a dark background, which is what my Linux console,
 xterms and rxvts are configured to have.
set background=dark
syntax on


--

it should work in gvim automatically

cheers
 damien



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Re: Questions About dpkg and friends

2000-10-16 Thread Erik Steffl
Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:14:07PM -0700, Jeff Hornsberger wrote:
  Hi, I just moved over from redhat and am wondering about how to do a few
  things in the debian package management system.
  1) If you know the name of a file you need, but not what package it is
  part of, what's the best way to find out what package you need?
 
 I don't know of a way to do that (it would be nice, however).

  I think you can do it using dpkg, see man,  but it searches only
packages you have installed, I think (it's probably dpkg -S below),

  I usually use: you can go to debian web page, packages, the last
search there is searching the files and it will show you wehere the
files are...

  2) Once you install a package, how can you get a listing of what files
  in the system belong to that package?
 
 dpkg -L packagename
 
  3) How can you tell what installed package (if any) a particular file in
  the system belongs to?
 
 dpkg -S /path/filename
...

erik



Re: What windows ssh client you use?

2000-10-16 Thread Rino Mardo
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 05:51:00PM -0500 or thereabouts, Snowfox wrote:
 
 Any of these Win clients let other machines see mapped ports?
 
 SecureCRT only lets localhost; don't see a way to change that. Want to
 let a Linux box see mapped ports since it can't get out through work's
 MSProxy server.
 

Same problem here with my Linux box and our M$ proxy that's why I have to do
apt updates via ftp only.  All HTTP requests are blocked and have to go via the
proxy.  My initial solution would be to use Samba and that's what I'm testing
now.


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Re: What windows ssh client you use?

2000-10-16 Thread Rino Mardo
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:52:08AM -0400 or thereabouts, Andy Bastien wrote:
 
 
 Another good (and free) client is the TTSSH extension to TeraTerm. 
 

Yeah I have that too and it also timeouts.  Maybe Debian is doing it? If it
does then I still can't find it.

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Re: dev/mouse

2000-10-16 Thread staf wagemakers
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 06:33:29PM -0500, Gary L. Dolan wrote:
 staf wagemakers wrote:
  
  /dev/mouse is (normally) a link to the real mouse device, you can create it
  with the ln command.
  
  ln -s /dev/mouse /dev/ttySxx ( or /dev/psaux if you've a ps2 mouse )
 
 Isn't it the other way, i.e., ln -s /dev/ttySxx  /dev/mouse?

Yes, you're right. I should read my reply twice before posting :)

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Re: Mouse freezing in X

2000-10-16 Thread kmself
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:10:03PM -0700, Bob Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I have noticed in the past few days that if I switch from the X display
 to a VC and back again that as soon as I move my mouse the cursor jumps
 to the upper right corner of the display and stays there.  This is on a
 system running woody.  Has anyone else noticed this?

Are you running gpm?  I believe this happens from time to time.  I tend
not to run gpm.

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ELO Touch Monitors

2000-10-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Folks,

I cannot locate the module xf86Elo.so , required for ELOTouch monitors, in
the ebian archive.

Any pointers?

Thanks

Sanjeev Gupta



Re: ELO Touch Monitors

2000-10-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Folks,

Found it in the xext package, thanks.  Any pointers on its use?  I am
trying to place Linux on public access kiosks.

BTW, does anyone know how to run Navigator full screen (no icons, no menu
bar).  I want to ensure that the user cannot close the window.

Regards

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:

 Folks,
 
 I cannot locate the module xf86Elo.so , required for ELOTouch monitors, in
 the ebian archive.
 
 Any pointers?
 
 Thanks
 
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Computer unusable -- can't get lilo to work

2000-10-16 Thread Mark Phillips

My computer is currently in an unusable state.  I am borrowing my Dad's
computer to write this!


The story in summary form:

1. Purchased a new 15Gig IBM ATA/100 hard drive.  Hooked it up as
1st drive.  BIOS detects okay.

2. fdisk complains that there is no known partition table on it.  I get
fdisk to create one, as well as partitions, and write to disk.  All is
well again.

3. Many trials and tribulations later I get Debian Linux (potato)
successfully installed on new drive.  Using custom kernel
2.4.0-test9 --- upgraded a few packages to woody in line with this. 
 (I needed 2.4 for LVM and ReiserFS.)  Created boot floppy for it which
successfully booted it several times.

4. I actually wanted the new drive as the third disk, so I swapped disks
and cables around.  Got BIOS to re-detect the drives, which it did okay.

5. Used Debian rescue disk to boot.  I hoped to use the rescue disk to
run lilo from in order to make the new drive bootable again.  But lilo
failed.  The rescue disk seems to use the lilo executable on the IBM
drive, and this failed.  It gave the error message:
  /target/sbin/lilo: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_2.2' 
  not found (required by /target/lib/libc.so.6)
I'm not sure what the problem is here.  It could be because on the IBM
drive installation (/target) I upgraded a few packages to woody.  I could
be because /target did not have mounted /usr or /var (and I can't mount
them without the 2.4 kernel).  Anyway, whatever the reason, I can't get
lilo to work so I can't boot the partition.  I can't even use a
commandline option to boot from the rescue disk with /dev/hdc1 as root,
because again, I need my custom 2.4 kernel so I can get LVM and ReiserFS
stuff so that /usr and /var will be mounted.

6. I swapped cables around so that my new IBM drive became the first drive
again, and got the BIOS to re-detect the disks.  This way I hoped to use
my custom boot disk for booting the new drive, which I created when it was
/dev/hda.  The kernel started booting okay with this, but it couldn't find
a partition table on the IBM drive!  Unknown partition table the kernel
complained.  This is the same problem it had at the very beginning of this
story.  I am not about to use fdisk to recreate a partition table and wipe
my disk.

7.  I swapped the cables over again a few times and it seems the partition
table is readable when I make the new drive /dev/hdc but unreadable when I
make it  /dev/hda.

So that it the current state of play.  I can't think what the problem is
with the partition table being unreadable.  I suspect it might be some
problem with the motherboard.  In which case the best thing to do is to
stick with /dev/hdc.  But how can I get it bootable as this?  How can I
get a lilo which will work and set up the boot sector properly?

Please cc any replies directly to me.

Thanks,

Mark.

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Re: Symlinking /tmp to /var...

2000-10-16 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello there,

On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 05:45:26AM -0500, Bud Rogers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote:
  On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
  
   Alternatively symlink /tmp to the existing /var/tmp
  
  That would have been my suggestion.  Anything wrong with that?
 
 Check your init scripts.  /tmp is wiped on boot.  /var/tmp may not be.

In a standard installation (i.e. you havn't modified the init-scripts
yourself), /var/tmp is wiped. So the symlink way worked for me without the
slightest problem.
Regards,
Daniel



Kde2 crashing and debugging

2000-10-16 Thread Alwyn Schoeman
Hi there,

While someone was on the subject of his kde2 not working like
mine is now

Could we please build the kde2 .debs with debugging enabled so
that our experiences can be sent back to the kde2 team and 
maybe help fix problems???

Thank you
Alwyn



Re: ELO Touch Monitors

2000-10-16 Thread Andre Berger
Sanjeev Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 BTW, does anyone know how to run Navigator full screen (no icons, no menu
 bar).  I want to ensure that the user cannot close the window.

Don't use a window manager, put netscape run into an infinite loop
that keeps restarting it.

I assume you want some kind of kiosk mode, do you know the Kiosk HOWTO?

-- Andre



HP 4L

2000-10-16 Thread Petteri Heinonen
Hello.
I've tried to make my HP Laserjet 4L to work for two nights now, and I am in
need for some help. The problem is: gs prints ps-files so that only one
fourth (top-left corner) of ps is actually printed (fitted on one sheet).
I've checked ps's with ghostview, and they are shown just like they should
be. I've tried with many of gs's Laserjet drivers, with same result. Command
I've used: gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=/dev/lp0 test.ps HOWTO points
out this problem, but tells that I should tweak driver's source. Is this
really the only way? And what about ifhp, could I use it instead of gs? With
it I've been able to print text files perfectly, but from ps's only couple
of lines containing postscript commands prints out.
Thanks in advance.

Petteri Heinonen
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel.:  +358 (0)50 3363 286
addr.: Pehkusuonkatu 21 B 38
33820 Tampere, FIN



update 2.0.35 - 2.0.38

2000-10-16 Thread robert_wilhelm_land
Would someone kindly help in understanding all those new files after
launching make zImage?
This is a old system going from 2.035 to 2.0.38 and it is the first
time I ever altered a system so deeply.

This is what I got after compiling:

In /usr/src/linux/ a vmlinux exe file, ~1,2 MB large.
In /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/ a zImage with -rw-.. and 0.5MB
'small'.
In /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/compressed/ -
  vmlinux (executable, -rwx...) ,0.5 MB small
  vmlinux.out (executable, -rwx...) and 0.5 MB small

I'm quite pertubed about these files since I never had heard/read of
and noone seems to bother about them.

Would compiling a 2.2.x kernel create the same (useless?) files?


Additional - where does dmesg extract the messages out of? The files
mentioned in man dmesg are empty, so I guess they're in RAM?



Robert



iproute2 and traffic control

2000-10-16 Thread Gianluca Montecchi
Hello.

I am some troubles with iproute2.

I am working with the kernel versione 2.4.0-test9 on a laptop with a pcmcia 
network
card.

I am trying to setup the laptop to have some control over the bandwidth, using 
iproute2.

Following the Linux 2.4 Advanced Routing HOWTO, I try:

tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 10: cbq bandwidth 10Mbit avpkt 1000

and as results, i get 

RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

I have compiled the kernel with all the networking option activated and I have 
all
the modules, but I cannot find where is the problem.

There is a specific modules to insert to be able to use the traffic control ?
I must have a PC with at least two network cards ?

Antother question: once I have set-up the traffic control, how I can test it ?

thanks in advance.

bye

Gianluca


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Mouse in X doesn't work if gpm is installed

2000-10-16 Thread Marco Herrn
I use the potato distribution from LinuxTag 2000.
If I installed gpm, the mouse in X doesn't work although I can use it under
the console. After uninstalling gpm everything is OK.

Does anyone know of that?

How can I use both, gpm and X?


Marco



Re: Questions About dpkg and friends

2000-10-16 Thread Francois Fayard
 1) If you know the name of a file you need, but not what package it is
 part of, what's the best way to find out what package you need?

Have a look at www.debian.org in the Package section, there is a search
tool for this.

Francois



ypbind memory

2000-10-16 Thread Douglas Eck
Anyone know if it's normal for ypbind to spawn four daemons that
eat up 16Mb of memory? It works fine... but seems like a lot
of overhead. I'm running woody...

From memstat: 
   4180k: PID  6497 (/usr/sbin/ypbind)
   4180k: PID  6496 (/usr/sbin/ypbind)
   4180k: PID  6495 (/usr/sbin/ypbind)
   4180k: PID  6492 (/usr/sbin/ypbind)   

Also, our RedHat boxes spawn two much smaller daemons for the
same config. 

Regards,
Doug Eck



Re: update 2.0.35 - 2.0.38

2000-10-16 Thread Dwight Johnson
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, robert_wilhelm_land wrote:

 Would someone kindly help in understanding all those new files after
 launching make zImage?
 
They are artifacts of the kernel compile and link.

 In /usr/src/linux/ a vmlinux exe file, ~1,2 MB large.
 In /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/ a zImage with -rw-.. and 0.5MB 'small'.

This file must be copied to /boot and edited into /etc/lilo.conf so that
you can boot your new kernel.

 In /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/compressed/ -
   vmlinux (executable, -rwx...) ,0.5 MB small
   vmlinux.out (executable, -rwx...) and 0.5 MB small
 
 I'm quite pertubed about these files since I never had heard/read of
 and noone seems to bother about them.
 
Quite understandable -- you didn't expect that a kernel compile would
generate so much disk overhead. And the compile has generated many hundreds
of other files that you have not mentioned. Better do a 'df' and see what
disk space you have left.

I hope you have enough left to do 'make modules'. It generates a ton more.

If you don't, it is possible to compile a kernel for this box on one with
more capability.

 Would compiling a 2.2.x kernel create the same (useless?) files?
 
Yes. You'll have to discuss the uselessness of these files with Linus
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

After you are finished, 'make clean' will remove a lot of them.

 Additional - where does dmesg extract the messages out of? The files
 mentioned in man dmesg are empty, so I guess they're in RAM?

They are in /var/log/messages.

Dwight
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Re: HP 4L

2000-10-16 Thread Vee-Eye
Sie schrieben:
 Hello.
Hello!

 I've tried to make my HP Laserjet 4L to work for two nights now, and I am in
I've no personal experience with that printer, but we'll see.
 need for some help. The problem is: gs prints ps-files so that only one
 fourth (top-left corner) of ps is actually printed (fitted on one sheet).
 I've checked ps's with ghostview, and they are shown just like they should
 be. I've tried with many of gs's Laserjet drivers, with same result. Command
 I've used: gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=/dev/lp0 test.ps HOWTO points
Why don't you use a printer filter like magicfilter?


Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name  Version   Description
+++-=-=-==
ii  magicfilter   1.2-39automatic printer filter.

/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:

#! /usr/sbin/magicfilter
#
# Magic filter setup file for 300 DPI LaserJet 4 series without PostScript
# (i.e. LJ 4L)
#
# This file has been automatically adapted to your system.
#

# PostScript
0   %!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300
-sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - -c quit 
0   \004%!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300
-sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - -c quit 

# PDF
0   %PDFfpipe   /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300
-sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- $FILE -c quit 

[...]

 out this problem, but tells that I should tweak driver's source. Is this
 really the only way? And what about ifhp, could I use it instead of gs? With
 it I've been able to print text files perfectly, but from ps's only couple
 of lines containing postscript commands prints out.
 Thanks in advance.
 
Normally this filter should work well - no need to tweak drivers, I hope

A nice resource for printing related questions is

http://www.linuxprinting.org

HTH

MH
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Re: HP 4L

2000-10-16 Thread Paul Huygen

Petteri Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [My] gs prints ps-files so that only one
 fourth (top-left corner) of ps is actually printed (fitted on one sheet).
 [I issue command] gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=/dev/lp0 test.ps

If you configure the printer on your computer with magicfilter,
chances are that everything is going to work right from the beginning.
Anyway, the Magic-filter script for my Laserjet 5L printer issues for
PS files:

/usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r600 -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - 

Regards,

Paul Huygen



Re: ypbind memory

2000-10-16 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Douglas Eck  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone know if it's normal for ypbind to spawn four daemons that
eat up 16Mb of memory? It works fine... but seems like a lot
of overhead. I'm running woody...

From memstat: 
   4180k: PID  6497 (/usr/sbin/ypbind)
   4180k: PID  6496 (/usr/sbin/ypbind)
   4180k: PID  6495 (/usr/sbin/ypbind)
   4180k: PID  6492 (/usr/sbin/ypbind)   

Those are not 4 processes, it's one process with 4 threads.
The memory is used only once.

What is memstat? ps on boxen here says it uses way less:

USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root   151  0.0  0.1  1404  272 ?SAug11   0:00 [ypbind]
root   152  0.0  0.1  1404  272 ?SAug11   0:00 [ypbind]
root   153  0.0  0.1  1404  272 ?SAug11   0:00 [ypbind]
root   154  0.0  0.1  1404  272 ?SAug11   0:00 [ypbind]

Mike.



Re: Symlinking /tmp to /var...

2000-10-16 Thread Brian May
 Daniel == Daniel Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Daniel In a standard installation (i.e. you havn't modified the
Daniel init-scripts yourself), /var/tmp is wiped. So the symlink
Daniel way worked for me without the slightest problem.  Regards,
Daniel Daniel

Are you sure about this? I have files dating back from 1999 on my
/var/tmp, but an uptime of only 16 days.

However, perhaps /var/tmp really should be wiped on startup. The
following init.d file would have to be executed first, though.

[557] [snoopy:bam] /etc/rcS.d ls -l S70nviboot 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 Feb 10  2000 S70nviboot - 
../init.d/nviboot*

Also, it might be important that this directory has the correct
permissions and ownership:

[562] [snoopy:bam] /etc/rcS.d ls -dl /var/tmp/vi.recover
drwxrwxrwt2 root root 4096 Oct 16 19:38 /var/tmp/vi.recover/
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Re: Mouse in X doesn't work if gpm is installed

2000-10-16 Thread Danie Roux
In /etc/gpm.conf there is a line that says something about repeating.

Comment that out.

Sorry I can't be more specific, but I'm not near a Debian box now :-(

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On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 11:19:00AM +0200, Marco Herrn wrote:
 I use the potato distribution from LinuxTag 2000.
 If I installed gpm, the mouse in X doesn't work although I can use it under
 the console. After uninstalling gpm everything is OK.
 
 Does anyone know of that?
 
 How can I use both, gpm and X?
 
 
 Marco
 
 
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exim: Return-path: js@spyker

2000-10-16 Thread Johann Spies
How can I get exim to rewrite my return-path?

I tried the following line in my /etc/exim.conf, but it does not work.

condition = 
${lookup{$sender_address,$return_path}lsearch{/etc/exim/frommap}{1}{0}}

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Re: exim: Return-path: js@spyker

2000-10-16 Thread Rino Mardo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 12:11:04PM +0200 or thereabouts, Johann Spies wrote:
 How can I get exim to rewrite my return-path?
 
 I tried the following line in my /etc/exim.conf, but it does not work.
 
 condition = 
 ${lookup{$sender_address,$return_path}lsearch{/etc/exim/frommap}{1}{0}}
 

I'm not sure if what you meant is your From: addy but for me I did it in
/etc/email-addresses

HTH.

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Using GnuPG with mutt

2000-10-16 Thread Rino Mardo
Hi.  Is the stock mutt.deb in 2.2 support gnupg?  Reason is I can't seem to
make gnupg sign my mails.


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Re: What windows ssh client you use?

2000-10-16 Thread Snowfox

   From: Rino Mardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 05:51:00PM -0500 or thereabouts, Snowfox wrote:

Any of these Win clients let other machines see mapped ports?

SecureCRT only lets localhost; don't see a way to change that. Want to
let a Linux box see mapped ports since it can't get out through work's
MSProxy server.


   Same problem here with my Linux box and our M$ proxy that's why I
   have to do apt updates via ftp only.  All HTTP requests are blocked
   and have to go via the proxy.  My initial solution would be to use
   Samba and that's what I'm testing now.

I get around this by running WebWasher.com on my Windows machine. This
lets you set the Windows box up as a web proxy which the Linux machine
can access. You get http this way at least.

The down side is you also leave your proxy open to anyone else in the
office by doing this, so depending on how much you trust your
co-workers...



Re: exim: Return-path: js@spyker

2000-10-16 Thread Alec Smith
In the Rewrite rules section (near the end of /etc/exim.conf) try
something like

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]bcfrF

This will take any mail with an outgoing domain of domain1.com, and map it
to the same user, but at @domain2.com.



On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Rino Mardo wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 12:11:04PM +0200 or thereabouts, Johann Spies wrote:
  How can I get exim to rewrite my return-path?
  
  I tried the following line in my /etc/exim.conf, but it does not work.
  
  condition = 
  ${lookup{$sender_address,$return_path}lsearch{/etc/exim/frommap}{1}{0}}
  
 
 I'm not sure if what you meant is your From: addy but for me I did it in
 /etc/email-addresses
 
 HTH.
 
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Re: exim: Return-path: js@spyker

2000-10-16 Thread Rino Mardo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 06:55:51AM -0400 or thereabouts, Alec Smith wrote:
 In the Rewrite rules section (near the end of /etc/exim.conf) try
 something like
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]bcfrF
 
 This will take any mail with an outgoing domain of domain1.com, and map it
 to the same user, but at @domain2.com.
 

Seems like what I've been doing in /etc/email-addresses.  The format of that
file is like the format of /etc/aliases:

username: email addy


So for mine it looks like this:

rino: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


And I can actually put anything to the right of the : sign.




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Re: iproute2 and traffic control

2000-10-16 Thread Colin Watson
Gianluca Montecchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am some troubles with iproute2.

I am working with the kernel versione 2.4.0-test9 on a laptop with a
pcmcia network card.

I am trying to setup the laptop to have some control over the bandwidth, using 
iproute2.

Heh, good luck. It took me a couple of weeks and a high aargh! factor
to get it working really well at work.

Following the Linux 2.4 Advanced Routing HOWTO, I try:

tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 10: cbq bandwidth 10Mbit avpkt 1000

Looks sane, although you may also have to give the 'allot' option at the
end there (1514 for Ethernet).

and as results, i get 

RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

Unfortunately, rtnetlink has a bad habit of doing that if the options
you give to tc are at all wrong. It can be *extremely* unhelpful
sometimes. Now and then tc will warn you cryptically about a badly
formatted command line, but not always (e.g. it tends not to spot
options that are out of range).

I have compiled the kernel with all the networking option activated and
I have all the modules, but I cannot find where is the problem.

Have you turned on the configure option CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL, under Code
maturity level options, which asks the configure scripts to prompt you
about development/incomplete code? You need that to get QoS support.

You should have a menu at the end of Networking options which shows
you quality-of-service-related stuff, and you might as well enable most
of that.

Antother question: once I have set-up the traffic control, how I can
test it ?

'tc -s qdisc list dev eth0', 'tc -s class list dev eth0', and 'tc -s
filter list dev eth0' will show you statistics on how much data has
passed through your various qdiscs, classes, and filters respectively.
Aside from that you just have to come up with some benchmarks. A nearby
web server that you control is useful for this.

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Re: Questions About dpkg and friends

2000-10-16 Thread Colin Watson
Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:14:07PM -0700, Jeff Hornsberger wrote:
 Hi, I just moved over from redhat and am wondering about how to do a few
 things in the debian package management system.
 1) If you know the name of a file you need, but not what package it is
 part of, what's the best way to find out what package you need?

I don't know of a way to do that (it would be nice, however).

If you grab the Contents-i386.gz (or whatever) file out of the archive -
it's in dists/stable or dists/unstable, depending - then you can grep
through that for whatever you need. I usually find that faster than the
available search tools on the web.

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disk files too large to fit on floppy disks

2000-10-16 Thread Zach Smith
Hello,
I tried copying the Debian base disk files to 
actual floppy disks, and they are too large by
about 30kB. I had to reformat my copy disks
to use 81 tracks, which is risky. I am just now
continuing this process, getting disk write errors... 
A better solution would be to recreate the files
in the smaller size.
Thanks
Zach


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